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Re: Media hates us, we get no respect, keep the chip on our shoulder thread
« Reply #1525 on: October 21, 2014, 01:42:13 PM »

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« Reply #1526 on: October 21, 2014, 04:45:51 PM »

The following MIGHT get three SEC teams in:
Undefeated Miss State loses to two loss UGA in SEC champ game, Auburn/Ole Miss remains with one loss
One loss Ole Miss wins SEC Champ game, Auburn AND Miss State remain with one loss (here Ole Miss beats [at the time] undefeated Miss State in Egg Bowl, Auburn wins out).  This could also be Auburn winning the SEC Champ game, I don't know how the tie-breaker would work out.

the SEC added a new tie breaker for 2014, it will come down to the record of the cross divsional opponents - Bama may finally get the short end due to the sanctity of the 3rd Saturday in October or whatever it is. 
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/sec-has-a-new-tiebreaker-rule-that-could-be-massive-100914

But prolly not because :
An Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State triangle of 1 loss teams + Georgia winning a close SEC title game + FSU losing a game to a garbage ACC team = All ESS EEE CEE PLAYOFF PAUL!

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« Reply #1527 on: October 21, 2014, 08:54:06 PM »

The following MIGHT get three SEC teams in:
Undefeated Miss State loses to two loss UGA in SEC champ game, Auburn/Ole Miss remains with one loss
One loss Ole Miss wins SEC Champ game, Auburn AND Miss State remain with one loss (here Ole Miss beats [at the time] undefeated Miss State in Egg Bowl, Auburn wins out).  This could also be Auburn winning the SEC Champ game, I don't know how the tie-breaker would work out.

the SEC added a new tie breaker for 2014, it will come down to the record of the cross divsional opponents - Bama may finally get the short end due to the sanctity of the 3rd Saturday in October or whatever it is. 
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/sec-has-a-new-tiebreaker-rule-that-could-be-massive-100914

But prolly not because :
An Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State triangle of 1 loss teams + Georgia winning a close SEC title game + FSU losing a game to a garbage ACC team = All ESS EEE CEE PLAYOFF PAUL!

OOOOOHHHHH.    MAAAAAAAAA.     GAAAAAAAAWWWWD.  PAUL!

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Re: Media hates us, we get no respect, keep the chip on our shoulder thread
« Reply #1529 on: October 26, 2014, 02:04:03 AM »
LSU sucks this year
But did us a solid. :D

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« Reply #1530 on: October 26, 2014, 07:46:54 AM »
I still think LSU sucks.


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« Reply #1531 on: October 26, 2014, 07:58:55 AM »
LSU sucks this year
But did us a solid. :D

Not really. At least not in the short run.
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« Reply #1532 on: October 26, 2014, 08:34:59 AM »
Those SEC west teams are going to cannibalize each other as well.

Well, yeah, but in the process, they'll all rack up wins over top 5 teams.  The conference is pegged against itself.  Like, LSU, who sucks, will be a top 10 team after the Ole Miss win. 

A 2 loss SEC west team will be in the playoff after the cannibalization is done.

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« Reply #1533 on: October 26, 2014, 09:34:23 AM »
LSU sucks this year
But did us a solid. :D

Not really. At least not in the short run.
Was nice to supplement the Royals game.

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« Reply #1534 on: October 26, 2014, 10:31:03 AM »

Those SEC west teams are going to cannibalize each other as well.

Well, yeah, but in the process, they'll all rack up wins over top 5 teams.  The conference is pegged against itself.  Like, LSU, who sucks, will be a top 10 team after the Ole Miss win. 

A 2 loss SEC west team will be in the playoff after the cannibalization is done.

Not if there are other BCS 1 loss teams out there.


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« Reply #1536 on: October 26, 2014, 11:31:47 AM »
steve dave, do you think there are 5 SEC teams better than the best Big 12 team?

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« Reply #1537 on: October 26, 2014, 10:44:09 PM »
"Well you hit rock bottom when K-STATE BEATS YOU 23-0."  :curse:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/no-11-kansas-state-routs-texas-23-0-in-big-12/ar-BBbaCvI

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It's not their quote, it's paraphrased.  Did you even read or watch the vid?  You don't have to answer, because you glanced at it and came up with the helpful question that doesn't pertain to the subject.  But what else you anyone expect from self claimed board genius MIR.
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« Reply #1538 on: October 26, 2014, 10:44:44 PM »
steve dave, do you think there are 5 SEC teams better than the best Big 12 team?
http://www.foxsports.com/video?vid=347850819773

This didn't do much for TCU.
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« Reply #1539 on: October 26, 2014, 11:52:42 PM »
steve dave, do you think there are 5 SEC teams better than the best Big 12 team?

is kstate the best big 12 team? auburn is sitting in 4th position in the SEC West at the moment and beat KState on the road so i don't think it is unfathomable.


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« Reply #1540 on: October 27, 2014, 01:05:44 AM »
can you guys imagine being the sak guy, what a treat, would love to go on the job search journey with this guy.  would not surprise me if he was applying for VP jobs and stuff, hell, president and CEO applications have already gone out im sure.  the world is just his playground, center of the universe.

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« Reply #1541 on: October 27, 2014, 01:38:49 AM »
can you guys imagine being the sak guy, what a treat, would love to go on the job search journey with this guy.  would not surprise me if he was applying for VP jobs and stuff, hell, president and CEO applications have already gone out im sure.  the world is just his playground, center of the universe.

have any big 12 teams beaten any of the top 5 SEC teams (auburn, alabama, georgia, ole miss, mississippi state)?
i know a couple of the upper tier big 12 teams have tried and failed.

seriously, care to explain why it's such an unfathomable thought? or would you just like to continue sticking your head in the sand?

the massey ratings which is a composite of close to 100 rankings have 5 SEC teams ranked higher than the highest ranked Big 12 team (TCU at #8) and 6 ahead of Kansas State (who is #11)

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« Reply #1542 on: October 27, 2014, 01:52:29 AM »
steve dave, do you think there are 5 SEC teams better than the best Big 12 team?
Right now, I'd say 3 to 4 SEC teams are better than anything the Big 12 has to offer.  I think Georgia would finish no better than 4th in the Big 12, and we have no idea how good Alabama is yet because of their schedule, but I think Alabama would certainly be up there competing for a Dr. Pepper B12 title.

The problem is none of the Big 12's top 3 teams (TCU/KSU/Baylor) beat anybody worthwhile in the OOC.  The best OOC win between the three of us is TCU's blowout of Minnesota, an extremely average Big 10 team.  We went toe-to-toe with Auburn, which is impressive, no doubt, but Auburn is just another really good SEC team, along with the Mississippis, and (probably) Bama. 

Aside from Georgia (whose resume at this point, is poor compared to the rest of the top 12 outside of Michigan State and Notre Dame), I have no problem with the SEC's rankings.
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« Reply #1543 on: October 27, 2014, 04:51:15 AM »
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/26/7072555/bowl-projections-college-football-playoff-2014

lol @ thinking we're going to finish 4th while OU finishes 2nd (and Baylor 5th?). Logic.

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« Reply #1544 on: October 27, 2014, 05:14:18 AM »
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/26/7072555/bowl-projections-college-football-playoff-2014

lol @ thinking we're going to finish 4th while OU finishes 2nd (and Baylor 5th?). Logic.

it uses some pretty dumb assumptions... namely "the sec champion will be no worse than 2nd; that's just the way it is"

sorry, but if mississippi state goes 12-0 and then loses a 1 point game to georgia who has losses to say... south carolina, auburn, and georgia tech... then georgia is not going to be that high.

and why on earth is michigan state in there? shouldn't we wait for them to beat a 2nd team in the top 70 before we call them playoff bound?

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« Reply #1545 on: October 27, 2014, 09:24:16 AM »
can you guys imagine being the sak guy, what a treat, would love to go on the job search journey with this guy.  would not surprise me if he was applying for VP jobs and stuff, hell, president and CEO applications have already gone out im sure.  the world is just his playground, center of the universe.

have any big 12 teams beaten any of the top 5 SEC teams (auburn, alabama, georgia, ole miss, mississippi state)?
i know a couple of the upper tier big 12 teams have tried and failed.

seriously, care to explain why it's such an unfathomable thought? or would you just like to continue sticking your head in the sand?

the massey ratings which is a composite of close to 100 rankings have 5 SEC teams ranked higher than the highest ranked Big 12 team (TCU at #8) and 6 ahead of Kansas State (who is #11)

Oklahoma smoked Alabama in a bowl game last year. OU is a little bit better than they were last season and Alabama is quite a bit worse.

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« Reply #1546 on: October 27, 2014, 11:52:11 AM »
can you guys imagine being the sak guy, what a treat, would love to go on the job search journey with this guy.  would not surprise me if he was applying for VP jobs and stuff, hell, president and CEO applications have already gone out im sure.  the world is just his playground, center of the universe.

have any big 12 teams beaten any of the top 5 SEC teams (auburn, alabama, georgia, ole miss, mississippi state)?
i know a couple of the upper tier big 12 teams have tried and failed.

seriously, care to explain why it's such an unfathomable thought? or would you just like to continue sticking your head in the sand?

the massey ratings which is a composite of close to 100 rankings have 5 SEC teams ranked higher than the highest ranked Big 12 team (TCU at #8) and 6 ahead of Kansas State (who is #11)

Oklahoma smoked Alabama in a bowl game last year. OU is a little bit better than they were last season and Alabama is quite a bit worse.

oklahoma is better than they were last year? based on what? alabama is worse? based on what?

and just for what its worth (and i hate alabama and loved watching them lose to oklahoma) but alabama had the ball in the last 2 minutes of the game with a chance to tie or take the lead. they outgained oklahoma. so if oklahoma "smoked" alabama... what did auburn do to kansas state this season? neuter them? obliterate them?

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« Reply #1547 on: October 27, 2014, 11:53:36 AM »
can you guys imagine being the sak guy, what a treat, would love to go on the job search journey with this guy.  would not surprise me if he was applying for VP jobs and stuff, hell, president and CEO applications have already gone out im sure.  the world is just his playground, center of the universe.

have any big 12 teams beaten any of the top 5 SEC teams (auburn, alabama, georgia, ole miss, mississippi state)?
i know a couple of the upper tier big 12 teams have tried and failed.

seriously, care to explain why it's such an unfathomable thought? or would you just like to continue sticking your head in the sand?

the massey ratings which is a composite of close to 100 rankings have 5 SEC teams ranked higher than the highest ranked Big 12 team (TCU at #8) and 6 ahead of Kansas State (who is #11)

Oklahoma smoked Alabama in a bowl game last year. OU is a little bit better than they were last season and Alabama is quite a bit worse.

oklahoma is better than they were last year? based on what? alabama is worse? based on what?

and just for what its worth (and i hate alabama and loved watching them lose to oklahoma) but alabama had the ball in the last 2 minutes of the game with a chance to tie or take the lead. they outgained oklahoma. so if oklahoma "smoked" alabama... what did auburn do to kansas state this season? neuter them? obliterate them?

outgained is such a rough ridin' simpleton stat

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« Reply #1548 on: October 27, 2014, 11:57:58 AM »
can you guys imagine being the sak guy, what a treat, would love to go on the job search journey with this guy.  would not surprise me if he was applying for VP jobs and stuff, hell, president and CEO applications have already gone out im sure.  the world is just his playground, center of the universe.

have any big 12 teams beaten any of the top 5 SEC teams (auburn, alabama, georgia, ole miss, mississippi state)?
i know a couple of the upper tier big 12 teams have tried and failed.

seriously, care to explain why it's such an unfathomable thought? or would you just like to continue sticking your head in the sand?

the massey ratings which is a composite of close to 100 rankings have 5 SEC teams ranked higher than the highest ranked Big 12 team (TCU at #8) and 6 ahead of Kansas State (who is #11)

Oklahoma smoked Alabama in a bowl game last year. OU is a little bit better than they were last season and Alabama is quite a bit worse.

oklahoma is better than they were last year? based on what? alabama is worse? based on what?

and just for what its worth (and i hate alabama and loved watching them lose to oklahoma) but alabama had the ball in the last 2 minutes of the game with a chance to tie or take the lead. they outgained oklahoma. so if oklahoma "smoked" alabama... what did auburn do to kansas state this season? neuter them? obliterate them?

outgained is such a rough ridin' simpleton stat

i don't disagree, but it's pretty rare for a team outgain their opponent and "get smoked". it can happen, but it typically takes an unusual set of circumstances given turnovers, special teams, 3rd down play, and/or penalties to get it to happen.

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« Reply #1549 on: October 27, 2014, 12:02:52 PM »
People need to shut up about the Mississippis and Auburn.  They're good and they've proven it against good competition.

Alabama and K-State's schedule so far has basically been a wash, so whatever.  If you're dead set on complaining about overrated SEC teams, stick with Georgia, and to a lesser degree Alabama (only because they're ranked SO much higher than K-State).


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