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WGAF? oscar was handed a lambo. Frank was paid to get an old Cavalier running and able to go to the store and back.
is the metric as simple as games won?
Maybe not a lambo, but Def a really nice BMW.
Quote from: CNS on December 20, 2014, 12:01:53 AMMaybe not a lambo, but Def a really nice BMW.Maybe a BMW that couldn't roll down its rear passenger window and had its check engine light on.
Quote from: wetwillie on December 20, 2014, 10:13:25 AMQuote from: CNS on December 20, 2014, 12:01:53 AMMaybe not a lambo, but Def a really nice BMW.Maybe a BMW that couldn't roll down its rear passenger window and had its check engine light on.This was a great post.
Quote from: Mr Bread on December 20, 2014, 12:03:05 PMQuote from: wetwillie on December 20, 2014, 10:13:25 AMQuote from: CNS on December 20, 2014, 12:01:53 AMMaybe not a lambo, but Def a really nice BMW.Maybe a BMW that couldn't roll down its rear passenger window and had its check engine light on.This was a great post.too obvious, imo
Quote from: pvegs on December 19, 2014, 12:23:03 PMQuote from: Trim on December 19, 2014, 11:45:21 AMNo Upshaw home games while Gooch is in town next month. We could've worn Frank shirts and waved a pak head. Hec Ed is a dump for the record, but it's our dump and I love seeing games there. We should go see the UW/UA game - or as I call it - the battle for pvegs' alumni donations. I'm in. FWIW, I have my own and an extra Frank shirt, along w/a pak head. Kemp's kid (insert lifted joke here) is dunking for them too, right?
Quote from: Trim on December 19, 2014, 11:45:21 AMNo Upshaw home games while Gooch is in town next month. We could've worn Frank shirts and waved a pak head. Hec Ed is a dump for the record, but it's our dump and I love seeing games there. We should go see the UW/UA game - or as I call it - the battle for pvegs' alumni donations.
No Upshaw home games while Gooch is in town next month. We could've worn Frank shirts and waved a pak head.
I can't tell if this is one of those times where we are taking wacky too seriously or not. I would guess that he is jk and he actually agrees with us about frank
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on December 19, 2014, 09:58:46 AMI'm still stunned at cRusty's Robert Upshaw nail and hanging Frank's recruiting coat on it.How many schools backed off because they knew they'd never get him in?none
I'm still stunned at cRusty's Robert Upshaw nail and hanging Frank's recruiting coat on it.How many schools backed off because they knew they'd never get him in?
Quote from: CNS on December 19, 2014, 11:13:53 PMWGAF? oscar was handed a lambo. Frank was paid to get an old Cavalier running and able to go to the store and back.Frank was handed a Lambo at K-State and lost 12 games and got beat by Ginger land in the 2nd round.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on December 20, 2014, 02:02:00 PMQuote from: CNS on December 19, 2014, 11:13:53 PMWGAF? oscar was handed a lambo. Frank was paid to get an old Cavalier running and able to go to the store and back.Frank was handed a Lambo at K-State and lost 12 games and got beat by Ginger land in the 2nd round.Yeah, a lambo that hadn't been to the NCAA tournament in a decade
Quote from: Trim on December 19, 2014, 01:02:52 PMQuote from: pvegs on December 19, 2014, 12:23:03 PMQuote from: Trim on December 19, 2014, 11:45:21 AMNo Upshaw home games while Gooch is in town next month. We could've worn Frank shirts and waved a pak head. Hec Ed is a dump for the record, but it's our dump and I love seeing games there. We should go see the UW/UA game - or as I call it - the battle for pvegs' alumni donations. I'm in. FWIW, I have my own and an extra Frank shirt, along w/a pak head. Kemp's kid (insert lifted joke here) is dunking for them too, right?Awesome, I'll coordinate this. And yup, Kemp Jr plays and is finally a legit contributor.
Quote from: MakeItRain on December 20, 2014, 02:06:33 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on December 20, 2014, 02:02:00 PMQuote from: CNS on December 19, 2014, 11:13:53 PMWGAF? oscar was handed a lambo. Frank was paid to get an old Cavalier running and able to go to the store and back.Frank was handed a Lambo at K-State and lost 12 games and got beat by Ginger land in the 2nd round.Yeah, a lambo that hadn't been to the NCAA tournament in a decadeWhen you sit down in the coaches chair for the first time and your predecessor left Mike Beasley and Bill Walker you've got it pretty good.
Quote from: Clevey No Mo on December 18, 2014, 04:42:39 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on December 18, 2014, 12:28:03 PMQuote from: Chingon on December 18, 2014, 12:07:23 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on December 18, 2014, 11:52:10 AMHating on oscar for what this team is doing now is warranted and deserved, but discounting a league title for your own school because you don't like the coach seems really dumb. That might be the saddest thing about all of this. The best two years in 'modern' KSU BBall are downplayed from either side. The ones who dislike Frank crap on the elite 8 run, and those who bemoan the hiring of oscar run down the league title. Yeah, its strange. I guess I'm one of the few that count the Elite 8 and the Big 12 title as the best 2 K-State basketball seasons I've experienced. To me K-State basketball has always been bigger than the coach whether I like him or not. I really liked Frank a lot and the brand he meant for K-State while he was here and it was a lot of fun, but he's never coming back. Granted, I'll pay more attention to what he does than some other SEC basketball coach, but I'm not going to care that much either way about his successes or failures.I don't think we should downplay either of those two years, we should just understand them for what they are. The E8 run was the best year of Kansas State basketball since 1988 even though we may have not won the conf. title. Weber's conf. title year was awesome, but it was Frank's talent, which is why it is tough to swallow as we now experience the decline of the Weber controlled program. We all know Frank is not coming back, but that is not the point. The point is that our AD mumped this up. Frank's ceiling at KSU was higher than oscar's is. I just don't see how that can be argued any other way, at least if you have a decent understanding of what is necessary to win in Manhattan. Some of you are just damn fools and I've accepted that - obviously, _fan and chingon not included in this category.I really don't disagree with much of that. I think Frank deserves at least a portion of the blame for not being able to work with Currie though.
Quote from: ksu_FAN on December 18, 2014, 12:28:03 PMQuote from: Chingon on December 18, 2014, 12:07:23 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on December 18, 2014, 11:52:10 AMHating on oscar for what this team is doing now is warranted and deserved, but discounting a league title for your own school because you don't like the coach seems really dumb. That might be the saddest thing about all of this. The best two years in 'modern' KSU BBall are downplayed from either side. The ones who dislike Frank crap on the elite 8 run, and those who bemoan the hiring of oscar run down the league title. Yeah, its strange. I guess I'm one of the few that count the Elite 8 and the Big 12 title as the best 2 K-State basketball seasons I've experienced. To me K-State basketball has always been bigger than the coach whether I like him or not. I really liked Frank a lot and the brand he meant for K-State while he was here and it was a lot of fun, but he's never coming back. Granted, I'll pay more attention to what he does than some other SEC basketball coach, but I'm not going to care that much either way about his successes or failures.I don't think we should downplay either of those two years, we should just understand them for what they are. The E8 run was the best year of Kansas State basketball since 1988 even though we may have not won the conf. title. Weber's conf. title year was awesome, but it was Frank's talent, which is why it is tough to swallow as we now experience the decline of the Weber controlled program. We all know Frank is not coming back, but that is not the point. The point is that our AD mumped this up. Frank's ceiling at KSU was higher than oscar's is. I just don't see how that can be argued any other way, at least if you have a decent understanding of what is necessary to win in Manhattan. Some of you are just damn fools and I've accepted that - obviously, _fan and chingon not included in this category.
Quote from: Chingon on December 18, 2014, 12:07:23 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on December 18, 2014, 11:52:10 AMHating on oscar for what this team is doing now is warranted and deserved, but discounting a league title for your own school because you don't like the coach seems really dumb. That might be the saddest thing about all of this. The best two years in 'modern' KSU BBall are downplayed from either side. The ones who dislike Frank crap on the elite 8 run, and those who bemoan the hiring of oscar run down the league title. Yeah, its strange. I guess I'm one of the few that count the Elite 8 and the Big 12 title as the best 2 K-State basketball seasons I've experienced. To me K-State basketball has always been bigger than the coach whether I like him or not. I really liked Frank a lot and the brand he meant for K-State while he was here and it was a lot of fun, but he's never coming back. Granted, I'll pay more attention to what he does than some other SEC basketball coach, but I'm not going to care that much either way about his successes or failures.
Quote from: ksu_FAN on December 18, 2014, 11:52:10 AMHating on oscar for what this team is doing now is warranted and deserved, but discounting a league title for your own school because you don't like the coach seems really dumb. That might be the saddest thing about all of this. The best two years in 'modern' KSU BBall are downplayed from either side. The ones who dislike Frank crap on the elite 8 run, and those who bemoan the hiring of oscar run down the league title.
Hating on oscar for what this team is doing now is warranted and deserved, but discounting a league title for your own school because you don't like the coach seems really dumb.
Wait are some people saying Angel didn't want to play for Frank and would have left if he stayed? I thought he left because Frank wasn't there anymore