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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2014, 08:49:59 PM »
If Gip doesn't improve significantly then it won't matter that Bolden isn't very good because neither are Malek Harris and Big Meat and we need at least one of them to be good (in addition to Gip).

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2014, 08:51:36 PM »
You're either a stud or you suck. Nothing in between.
Our team is full of in between.  Bolden just isn't part of that.  He is awful.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2014, 08:52:22 PM »
Tay seemed passive.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2014, 08:54:22 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2014, 09:26:22 PM »
It's Will guys, come on out and say it.

This is actually probably true.

We need to stop turning the ball over and get better on defense in a huge hurry.
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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2014, 09:32:29 PM »
It's Will guys, come on out and say it.

This is actually probably true.

We need to stop turning the ball over and get better on defense in a huge hurry.

Shane.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2014, 09:33:42 PM »
Take it to the Shane Yourself thread.

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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2014, 09:40:03 PM »
I may be going out on a limb here, but I think we may miss Frank.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2014, 10:22:54 PM »
If we were run and gun all game I'd want Bolden and Edwards to play more. If we're going to be motion offense, we need one of the PGs to figure it out and should play Wes and tre more. Everyone needs to improve help defense and stop throwing the ball to the other team.

Is it just me, or are there a crap load more teams playing zone this year?
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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2014, 10:33:15 PM »
If we were run and gun all game I'd want Bolden and Edwards to play more. If we're going to be motion offense, we need one of the PGs to figure it out and should play Wes and tre more. Everyone needs to improve help defense and stop throwing the ball to the other team.

Is it just me, or are there a crap load more teams playing zone this year?
I think coaches are trying to the new way of officiating.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2014, 10:39:11 PM »
If we were run and gun all game I'd want Bolden and Edwards to play more. If we're going to be motion offense, we need one of the PGs to figure it out and should play Wes and tre more. Everyone needs to improve help defense and stop throwing the ball to the other team.

Is it just me, or are there a crap load more teams playing zone this year?
I think coaches are trying to the new way of officiating.

That's like setting your watch to an earthquake.

seriously though, get a bunch of 6'7" guys and have them dribble into people all game.
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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2014, 10:44:28 PM »
I may be going out on a limb here, but I think we may miss Frank.

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Here's my recommendation if we lose both the UGA and aTm games...let's quit trying to analyze these guys in some quasi-rational-objective world of numbers and evidence. Instead, if humanly possible, let's try to remember how we approached the Wooly era because that is what we are turning into. At least we had some sort of lovable loser feel to us then. Quentin Buchanan and Travis Reynolds may have been exceedingly frustrating when they had to show actual basketball skill, but they were our Junction City boys! Pervis Pasco may have had half the court smarts as anyone else at any given time, but we loved him! Wooly and the neck brace!

If you squint really hard you can kind of see Wooly in oscar. It's scary, but real. Let's remove past success from our collective analysis and expectations and simply appreciate life as fans of the hayseed Kansas State Wildcats. We don't get to have nice things guys!

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2014, 07:39:46 AM »
If we lose to UGA and A&M, not one fan will GAF this entire season.  #FireBruce

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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2014, 08:15:38 AM »
Yes, losing to both aTm and UGA will bring tons of apathy. However, we all know oscar bought himself a bad year with what he did his first 2 years, even if he has done nothing in the tornament. It is what it is; but if he continues this slide (that started at the end of last season really) into next year, we'll burn this thing to the ground and I'll change my name to ksu_FBN.

I also think its reasonable to give him a shot to see if he can get this group to play better going into Big 12 play even if it doesn't seem likely. Clearly there are plenty of flaws with this team, but I still think there is enough there to be over .500 in this league and salvage some semblance of success this season.

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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2014, 09:01:14 AM »
the frustrating thing of this has always been that we were going to have to let it play it's course.

i will say that oscar is more entertaining/funny than i thought he was going to be and that there is entertainment value in that for me as a fan. i mean i wanted to boycot initially. but if you actually get a decent seat at a game and just watch oscar 50% of the time, i can guarantee that you'll enjoy yourself as long as you aren't wrapped up in on the court play and things like who won and lost.
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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2014, 09:07:19 AM »
the frustrating thing of this has always been that we were going to have to let it play it's course.

i will say that oscar is more entertaining/funny than i thought he was going to be and that there is entertainment value in that for me as a fan. i mean i wanted to boycot initially. but if you actually get a decent seat at a game and just watch oscar 50% of the time, i can guarantee that you'll enjoy yourself as long as you aren't wrapped up in on the court play and things like who won and lost.

hard to make it fun for those of us at home because ESPN doesn't find him as entertaining as, say, Frank.

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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2014, 09:12:13 AM »
the frustrating thing of this has always been that we were going to have to let it play it's course.

i will say that oscar is more entertaining/funny than i thought he was going to be and that there is entertainment value in that for me as a fan. i mean i wanted to boycot initially. but if you actually get a decent seat at a game and just watch oscar 50% of the time, i can guarantee that you'll enjoy yourself as long as you aren't wrapped up in on the court play and things like who won and lost.

hard to make it fun for those of us at home because ESPN doesn't find him as entertaining as, say, Frank.

yeah. you really have to be at the games and somewhat close to oscar to get any enjoyment out of basketball this year. i should have made that more clear. i thought it i would be more angered up watching him all game but it's actually v funny.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2014, 09:55:39 AM »
Watching oscar makes me angry. 

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2014, 09:17:23 PM »
oscar has at least two more years. But that doesn't mean eliminate the need to start the movement for his ousting. I'm willing to change course, I just find it highly unlikely that conditions will change and I'll need to.