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MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« on: December 14, 2014, 10:17:03 PM »


Once again the Cats struggle and let a bad team hang around for far too long. Keep in mind Louisville held this team to .35 PPP. Our friend ART's team held them to .66 PPP. Indiana, .72 PPP. The juggernaut that is Winthrop, .68 PPP. Sav State is a terrible, terrible offense, yet they scored .85 PPP against us and were within single digits far too long in this game. Gip gets in foul trouble against a team that has no height. Foster can score in stretches, but doesn't seem to take over. Our point guard duo has moments of decent play, but are still sporadic at best. Westicles still can't find his game. Its not out of line to say that our best player right now might be Nino Williams. That's not a knock on Nino; he's been everything we need him to be, but he shouldn't be our best or 2nd best or even 3rd best player right now.

Hopefully we can beat aTm and Georgia going into Big 12 play and I might gain a slight bit of my hope back, but even splitting those two seems like a tall order right now.


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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 10:21:23 PM »
Tennessee won a big one today.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2014, 12:09:58 PM »
Marcus Foster is our best player, _FAN.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 12:23:02 PM »
Rohlender(SP) and Bolden played significant first half min early.  That should be charted somehow and measured against the performance as well.  I feel like any stat analysis that doesn't is lacking. 

For real though, Gip's foul trouble and Wes's lack of being Wes concern me more than anything at this point.  Without Gip, we are basically a team of SG's and Threes that don't have a feel for what to do for themselves or each other very well or very consistently.  This team really needs a huge jump from Jevon, Nigel, or Gip to stand a chance at all, IMO.

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2014, 12:26:36 PM »
someone on this blog told me Wesley = Cartier last year

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2014, 01:02:22 PM »
Rohlender(SP) and Bolden played significant first half min early.  That should be charted somehow and measured against the performance as well.  I feel like any stat analysis that doesn't is lacking. 

For real though, Gip's foul trouble and Wes's lack of being Wes concern me more than anything at this point.  Without Gip, we are basically a team of SG's and Threes that don't have a feel for what to do for themselves or each other very well or very consistently.  This team really needs a huge jump from Jevon, Nigel, or Gip to stand a chance at all, IMO.

Having no true post presence on offense rough ridin' sucks.  Illinois doesn't have crap there and I hate its fat rough ridin' jump shooting face. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2014, 01:03:41 PM »
I also hate not having an good PG.  Makes for some very ugly basketball. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2014, 01:21:55 PM »
Who would have thought losing DJamer would hurt us this bad?

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2014, 02:11:24 PM »
I don't think having DJamer available would have made much of a difference.

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2014, 02:15:20 PM »
I think it could have made a huge difference. 

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 02:50:48 PM »
I think it could have made a huge difference.

Having someone else know what they are doing is always a plus. Specially when it is something your team really needs.

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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2014, 02:56:38 PM »
I think it could have made a huge difference.

Not on offense it wouldn't.  Like at all.
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2014, 03:52:31 PM »
It's Will guys, come on out and say it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2014, 04:31:18 PM »
I think it could have made a huge difference.

Not on offense it wouldn't.  Like at all.
Yeah, he wouldn't be scoring notably,  but would have provided some style consistency rather than what we get when gip sits for Hurt.  Also, defense.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2014, 04:33:17 PM »
It's Will guys, come on out and say it.
Honestly, given what we see now,  I think Rodney, and then Will and Shane, are what kept a sense of urgency.   

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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2014, 04:34:39 PM »
I think it could have made a huge difference.

Not on offense it wouldn't.  Like at all.
Yeah, he wouldn't be scoring notably,  but would have provided some style consistency rather than what we get when gip sits for Hurt.  Also, defense.

Do you think oscar would just not play Hurt then (assuming he was healthy)?
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2014, 04:35:55 PM »
No, but we might have seen him as a four more often than not. 

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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2014, 04:41:09 PM »
No, but we might have seen him as a four more often than not.

I think that would be really bad for defense, but I haven't been watching lately. 
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2014, 04:42:15 PM »
Probably.  If it was, we could have afforded to simply bench him without Bolden'ing ourselves.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2014, 04:42:35 PM »
It's Will guys, come on out and say it.
Honestly, given what we see now,  I think Rodney, and then Will and Shane, are what kept a sense of urgency.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2014, 04:43:35 PM »
Tay seemed passive.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2014, 06:23:47 PM »
Bolden looks awkwardly raw.

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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2014, 08:14:25 PM »
If by "awkwardly raw", you mean "really horrible", then yes, I would agree w you.

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Re: MassSAV issues (still); Sav St ADV
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2014, 08:25:13 PM »
Does Bolden suck? I thought he looked good defensively. Obviously he's horrible at scoring, but does he just generally suck? I haven't payed close enough attention to know if he's good. Hopefully someone with hbbiq knows

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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2014, 08:30:39 PM »
You're either a stud or you suck. Nothing in between.