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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #100 on: November 09, 2014, 12:34:43 AM »
We will beat KU handily. That is what we do.

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #101 on: November 09, 2014, 12:38:21 AM »
Jfc. Losses bring out the worst bbs'rs. Get that KU trash out of here. Woof!

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #102 on: November 09, 2014, 12:40:02 AM »
Great avatar, WC08.   :thumbs:

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #104 on: November 09, 2014, 01:41:08 AM »
If KU is not Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) they have a chance of hanging with us and maybe beating us. Name a mobile QB we have contained? They are playing like they care under a coach that is not smelly, fat and has a million rules. Rotate Cummings and Cozart, shotgun all day long, mix in a few bombs to Harwell and they are in the game all day long.
We are slow on defense, have a shitty running game and an injured QB, couple that with a coaching staff that will not adapt. Why am I wrong that we possibly will go 7-5???  What do we do well that KU can not stop? Double team Lockett and our coaches might get that solved by the time we are running the two minute drill down 14. I am drinking, you should be as well

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #105 on: November 09, 2014, 09:56:12 AM »
8-4 with these seniors will feel like 6-6. 

It will also make next year's struggle to get to 6-6 feel even worse.

We won't struggle to get six wins next year.

8-9 would be a struggle, but not six.  The defense and OL will be too good.

I don't understand these comments.  We haven't been able to run the ball for like two seasons now.  Their pass protection has been better, however we melt the f down against any pressure.  But the OL being good will not make up for who we have at QB next year.  And even before this game, that defense is not that good.  Our front four is not overwhelming at all, our LB's are pedestrian, and our secondary is marginal.  I don't think Dvonta will make it much better. 

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #106 on: November 09, 2014, 10:03:12 AM »
The only way to get to 10-2 and make this a memorable season is to go back to the sketti brain offense and run Waters until he can't then move down the line to Hubs, Ertz, etc.  We will have a hell of time wining in Morgantown with only a few QB runs and have no chance in Waco.

I think we have a shot vs WVU, they aren't a dominant team like Baylor or TCU IMHO.

But the point about the QB run game is correct. LHC Bill Snyder's tenure has shown that the times K-State has been able to be balanced on offense were only when we had the threat and used the QB to run the ball. When the QB couldn't run and K-State faced really good defenses, the results were similar to what we saw tonight. I think Waters perhaps is good enough to be effective in the QB run game, but he isn't going to be used a lot on designed QB runs because of his shoulder. Our offensive line and backs simply aren't good enough to pick up the rest of the running game and give us any semblance of balance.

This.  It's painful to watch this offense when it can't be run the way it should.  Dana and Del were really at a loss last night.  It looked a lot like '12 Baylor.  No run game, passing game couldn't hold up, defense couldn't either.  WVU is winnable (we might even get to see a jail break screen in that game!!). The OL has gotten much better in pass protection, imo, though I don't know if the sack numbers would bear that out. 

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #107 on: November 09, 2014, 10:13:14 AM »
Lining Jones up in the WC on 3rd and 1 should be fire able if it happens again

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #108 on: November 09, 2014, 10:19:41 AM »
Man, last night sucked.

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #109 on: November 09, 2014, 10:27:22 AM »
Lining Jones up in the WC on 3rd and 1 should be fire able if it happens again

That was laughable. Such a predictable play call.

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #110 on: November 09, 2014, 11:05:25 AM »
Lining Jones up in the WC on 3rd and 1 should be fire able if it happens again

That was laughable. Such a predictable play call.

It blew my mind.  Probably blew Patterson's.

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #111 on: November 09, 2014, 11:06:00 AM »
8-4 with these seniors will feel like 6-6. 

It will also make next year's struggle to get to 6-6 feel even worse.

We won't struggle to get six wins next year.

8-9 would be a struggle, but not six.  The defense and OL will be too good.

I don't understand these comments.  We haven't been able to run the ball for like two seasons now.  Their pass protection has been better, however we melt the f down against any pressure.  But the OL being good will not make up for who we have at QB next year.  And even before this game, that defense is not that good.  Our front four is not overwhelming at all, our LB's are pedestrian, and our secondary is marginal.  I don't think Dvonta will make it much better.

We can run the ball when we have a QB that can run in the offense they've designed.

I think Derricott and Riddle, with a healthy Green, will make up for a lot.  Getting Lee more mass will help.  Getting Prewitt more experience will provide better depth.

I'm also banking on Clinkscales becoming a major part of the rotation after he's in the system for a year.

As far as the OL goes, a lot of my optimism hinges on AJ Allen pushing Whithair back inside, and Reisner stepping into Finney's spot.  I'd like to see Brager instead of Kleinsorge, but whatever.

Gronk needs to block better.  There were a few runs last night, and several this year, where he just doesn't put a hat on anyone.

The glaring concern will be passing, but I think we can cobble something together.  If we do play Huebner, he will be able to run the ball.  I'd rather have Sams, but we are where we are.

I think having five home games means a lot.  I think we can get six or seven wins and go to a low level bowl.

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #112 on: November 09, 2014, 11:27:56 AM »
I predicted 9-3 at the beginning of the season, but I think we finish 10-2.  :th_twocents:
This is realistic.  I think the elements and being out on the east coast affects us in Morgantown more than the talent of WVU.  But make no mistake no one including KU should be overlooked.  Coach Snyder is one of the best at working with what he has.  The Wildcats just need to find a way to counter for lack of speed and athleticism in comparison to TCU and Baylor. 

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #113 on: November 09, 2014, 11:54:25 AM »
I predicted 9-3 at the beginning of the season, but I think we finish 10-2.  :th_twocents:
This is realistic.  I think the elements and being out on the east coast affects us in Morgantown more than the talent of WVU.  But make no mistake no one including KU should be overlooked.  Coach Snyder is one of the best at working with what he has.  The Wildcats just need to find a way to counter for lack of speed and athleticism in comparison to TCU and Baylor. 

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #114 on: November 21, 2014, 02:23:38 PM »
What a rough riding idiot... :flush:

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #115 on: November 21, 2014, 02:35:20 PM »
Kick his ass, Townie!

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #116 on: November 21, 2014, 02:36:01 PM »
We could still finish 8-4. :dunno:

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #117 on: November 21, 2014, 02:36:30 PM »
Would be pretty disappointing at this point, imo.

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #118 on: November 21, 2014, 07:18:38 PM »
Better season than I expected probably!

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #119 on: November 21, 2014, 11:37:03 PM »
Better season than I expected probably!
10-2 would be an excellent record!  Also, I won't complain about 9-3 either.
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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #120 on: November 22, 2014, 04:48:39 PM »
 If kstate goes 10-2 with this schedule it may be a top 5 all time ksu team

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #121 on: November 22, 2014, 05:11:36 PM »
If kstate goes 10-2 with this schedule it may be a top 5 all time ksu team

Who would this team edge out of the top 5?


Obvs 98, 03, 12  aren't going to be pushed out. 
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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #122 on: November 22, 2014, 05:24:59 PM »
97 only one loss to eventual nat champ, won Fiesta - prolly bumped by a share of the conference title.  Same for 02

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #123 on: November 22, 2014, 06:33:54 PM »
If kstate goes 10-2 with this schedule it may be a top 5 all time ksu team

Who would this team edge out of the top 5?


Obvs 98, 03, 12  aren't going to be pushed out.
i mean I couldn't give you a top 5 other than the top 3 but it has got to be mentioned if this team runs the table, this schedule was nuts and a split pepper would absolutely knock out 03, the loss to Marshall solidifies it

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Re: What if we finish 8-4?
« Reply #124 on: November 22, 2014, 06:35:34 PM »
If kstate goes 10-2 with this schedule it may be a top 5 all time ksu team

Who would this team edge out of the top 5?


Obvs 98, 03, 12  aren't going to be pushed out.

02 was much much better than 12