At the end of the day winners win (period). I don't care how much they win by, I watched woodridge blow plenty of games as head coach when I was young trying to cheer on the cats. If Frank wants to hold players out because they aren't playing as hard as he thinks they should than I don't give a cac as long as we win at the end of the day. Last year was great and we made the elite eight, but we lost to KU 3 times. If Frank is changing things so this doesn't happen again this year, and so a larger group of players can learn to play well together let him do it. Jake is one of the best guards in the country, I lived next door to him for awhile back when he was in the dorms (before I joined a frat), and while he comes across as cocky to many he is smart and knows how to play this game. If we had more than 1 loss to number one Duke it might be a problem but until then Jake and the team are winning. If you want flashy losers cheer on Michigan State or many of the teams in the Pac-10. Wally can either start practicing like a winner or transfer and be flashy on a sub-par team. If we are pissing Jake off than we are actually hurting the team because he has won almost as much as any player in K-State history and thats saying something.