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not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« on: December 03, 2014, 10:11:44 AM »


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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 03:46:42 PM »
http://youtu.be/s2ghdM66U4Y

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montage of arguably (and some inarguably) bad shoots (and straight up murders) by cops. dont watch if you dont want to see that stuff.

I think americans should be rioting and smashing and burning crap way more often. ferguson just had the balls.

looks like arizona is probably worse than missouri.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 03:51:54 PM »
in several they go through the insane ritual of handcuffing and "arresting" the person they just killed. absolutely surreal.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 04:20:36 PM »
http://youtu.be/s2ghdM66U4Y

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montage of arguably (and some inarguably) bad shoots (and straight up murders) by cops. dont watch if you dont want to see that stuff.

I think americans should be rioting and smashing and burning crap way more often. ferguson just had the balls.

looks like arizona is probably worse than missouri.

I totally agree there should be more rioting over cases like this.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 04:29:16 PM »
Man I can't watch stuff like that anymore

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2014, 04:31:27 PM »
Man I can't watch stuff like that anymore

More people should watch it

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 04:43:21 PM »
It made me too sad Rusty. I could only take about 5 minutes.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2014, 04:52:42 PM »
Man I can't watch stuff like that anymore

More people should watch it

I watched until they shot the guy getting out of the truck. When his wife came out, and the way they barked at her. Too much.

I took the time to read the news stories of the first four or so videos. The reasons for deadly force a so weak in some. I get that if you have a knife and police tell you to drop it and you don't you're going to get capped, but these guys are shooting people on the hunch they may be strapped and asking questions later.

These are just shootings. What about plain old brutality? It almost seems like it's better for the cop to just shoot than face possible assault charges.
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2014, 05:09:00 PM »
I think the big takeaway is officers are trained incorrectly, whether a suspect is armed or not.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2014, 06:47:24 PM »
We cannot have a society in which police are held to a different standard of conduct than the rest of us.
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2014, 08:04:27 PM »
I think the big takeaway is officers are trained incorrectly, whether a suspect is armed or not.

I'm not sure training is the issue, but more must be better.

There needs to be civil liability

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2014, 08:12:44 PM »
Due to the position of power and responsibility they have over the population, they need to be held to an even higher standard.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 08:15:04 PM »
And violations of the trust punished more harshly.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2014, 08:52:12 PM »
I think the big takeaway is officers are trained incorrectly, whether a suspect is armed or not.

I'm not sure training is the issue, but more must be better.

There needs to be civil liability
I would push for different training, not more. (and maybe more, too, but definitely different.) And yeah, a little accountability would be nice.


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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2014, 08:19:28 AM »
We need to appoint a special prosecutor in Kansas whose sole purpose is to prosecute cops in these types of cases and to audit police stations for corruption. Take this stuff out of the hands of the DAs who want nothing to do with it.

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2014, 08:28:40 AM »
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2014/nov/29/correctional-officers-not-criminally-liable-case-w/  :frown:

WTF was the hospital thinking? A woman is vomiting blood and has vomited dozens of times, but you are just going to give her fluids and send her back to a jail cell? If anything, they are more liable than the police here.


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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2014, 02:57:32 PM »
Outrageous!  #freeramseyorta
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2014, 03:00:44 PM »
Has anyone suggested getting rid of all cops and just policing ourselves?

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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2014, 03:10:09 PM »
Has anyone suggested getting rid of all cops and just policing ourselves?

yes, that has been suggested.
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2014, 04:50:49 PM »
goEMAW.com is a good template
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Re: not just missouri, best to avoid all cops
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2014, 02:57:07 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/04/phoenix-police-unarmed-man-killed-by-officer/19878931/

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Get used to these stories making national waves every week for the foreseeable future. It's going to get ugly, but may just turn out for the best.

We know this happens a lot. It just hasn't been heavily covered on much more than a local level until now. I remember all four of these incidents from working in Wichita this summer.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article1224906.html

http://www.jrn.com/kfdi/news/Unidentified-man-critical-after-southeast-Wichita-shooting-incident-265844501.html

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article1255072.html

http://www.kwch.com/news/local-news/multiple-agencies-assisting-with-cowley-county-incident/26272050

Of course, while related to the topic, only one of these guys didn't have a weapon, and he allegedly almost ran over the cop with his car.

« Last Edit: December 05, 2014, 03:07:31 AM by nicname »
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.