Hit them bastards were it hurts - Fred and his cult of assholes

["storm"nut]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/user/reset/25778026/1355770594/oFTxRO3gvuDdMMe7G-prsyKbWS7u6jfHOhxm8zWBkWs

[nicname]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/user/reset/25778026/1355770594/oFTxRO3gvuDdMMe7G-prsyKbWS7u6jfHOhxm8zWBkWs

Exactly what are we petitioning? 

[Institutional Control]

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["storm"nut]

My bad

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/investigate-irs-tax-exempt-status-westboro-baptist-church/YrKbHYtV

[bakerman]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/user/reset/25778026/1355770594/oFTxRO3gvuDdMMe7G-prsyKbWS7u6jfHOhxm8zWBkWs

Exactly what are we petitioning?

I believe it's a petition to get the tax exempt status of the WBC removed.

[nicname]

Signed.  This was a good idea of whoever thought it up.  I mean, we can't stop these assholes from parading around and being assholes, but if we could at least get them dropped from tax exemption that would be great.

[HeinBallz]

Can someone less lazy than myself make a petition to drop tax exemption from all churches?

[8manpick]

Can someone less lazy than myself make a petition to drop tax exemption from all churches?

No crap.  Also the NCAA.

[star seed 7]

Can someone less lazy than myself make a petition to drop tax exemption from all churches?

 

[Panjandrum]

Can someone less lazy than myself make a petition to drop tax exemption from all churches?

 

 

[Rage Against the McKee]

If charities and other not-for-profit organizations have tax exempt status, then I see no reason for churches to not have it.

[bones129]

I do not like Fred.

[8manpick]

If charities and other not-for-profit organizations have tax exempt status, then I see no reason for churches to not have it.

Good point. Should just get rid of tax-exempt status. But especially for churches.

["storm"nut]

If charities and other not-for-profit organizations have tax exempt status, then I see no reason for churches to not have it.

Good point. Should just get rid of tax-exempt status. But especially for churches.

Sure and that includes all the mosques and synagogs and shrines. Also can't leave out the religion of atheism and their worshipers.

[Institutional Control]

If charities and other not-for-profit organizations have tax exempt status, then I see no reason for churches to not have it.

Good point. Should just get rid of tax-exempt status. But especially for churches.

Sure and that includes all the mosques and synagogs and shrines. Also can't leave out the religion of atheism and their worshipers.

Is there an atheist church somewhere claiming tax exemption?

["storm"nut]

If charities and other not-for-profit organizations have tax exempt status, then I see no reason for churches to not have it.

Good point. Should just get rid of tax-exempt status. But especially for churches.

Sure and that includes all the mosques and synagogs and shrines. Also can't leave out the religion of atheism and their worshipers.

Is there an atheist church somewhere claiming tax exemption?

http://ffrf.org/

[Rage Against the McKee]

If charities and other not-for-profit organizations have tax exempt status, then I see no reason for churches to not have it.

Good point. Should just get rid of tax-exempt status. But especially for churches.

Really, for the most part, churches are a better use of tax-exempt status than other not-for-profit entitites, including charities. Typically, church donations are used to pay the minister about $30,000, maintain the church and the minister's property, and support local and national charity causes. If you want to support the poor in your local area, you really couldn't do a whole lot better than giving to the right church. There are exceptions to every case, of course. Some churches are nothing more than a money racket, and others are in such poor shape that nearly all of the donations they receive go to building maintenance.

[HeinBallz]

If charities and other not-for-profit organizations have tax exempt status, then I see no reason for churches to not have it.

Until everyone is exempt - everyone should pay.   

[Rage Against the McKee]

If charities and other not-for-profit organizations have tax exempt status, then I see no reason for churches to not have it.

Until everyone is exempt - everyone should pay.

I disagree. If you want to start a charitable foundation, you are free to do that and your foundation will not pay taxes. You will still pay taxes on whatever you take from the foundation for your salary, but I think you will find that there is not enough money in running a charity to pay taxes and have anything left over for charitable giving.

[HeinBallz]

I was hoping to somehow put emphasis on "until everyone is exempt"

I don't disagree with you; I just think if you can justify taxing any organization, I don't see how a non-profit that people can draw a salary off of is any different.

[OK_Cat]

shocking, the gun nut is against charity as well.

trying too hard to be edgy.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Government is a horrible charity. Taking away tax-exempt status for churches and other worthy  non-profits only means you must forcibly donate more to government to provide needed services to the poor. Dumbest idea ever.

[HeinBallz]

shocking, the gun nut is against charity as well.

trying too hard to be edgy.

where in any of that do you read "anti-charity"? 

Government is a horrible charity. Taking away tax-exempt status for churches and other worthy  non-profits only means you must forcibly donate more to government to provide needed services to the poor. Dumbest idea ever.

If you'll notice, I wrote - no one should be exempt until EVERYONE is exempt.
I'm more in favor of cutting spending & Taxes - why is it necessary for government to facilitate all of these services?  And I'm not talking cutting roads/bridges/police - there's a crap load of spending that goes on beyond that.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

shocking, the gun nut is against charity as well.

trying too hard to be edgy.

where in any of that do you read "anti-charity"? 

Government is a horrible charity. Taking away tax-exempt status for churches and other worthy  non-profits only means you must forcibly donate more to government to provide needed services to the poor. Dumbest idea ever.

If you'll notice, I wrote - no one should be exempt until EVERYONE is exempt.
I'm more in favor of cutting spending & Taxes - why is it necessary for government to facilitate all of these services?  And I'm not talking cutting roads/bridges/police - there's a crap load of spending that goes on beyond that.

I was speaking to the anti-church crowd drooling over the prospect of churches paying taxes rather than helping the local poor. I don't even go to church (just isn't my thing), but I donate to one in particular because I see first hand the good they do and know that nearly 100% of the money goes directly to those that need it. Just more proof that the big government crowd is clueless about how taxes are spent. Charity should be left to the citizenry.

BTW, I have no problem with any tax-exempt entity being audited on a regular basis to make sure they are following the rules.

[HeinBallz]

shocking, the gun nut is against charity as well.

trying too hard to be edgy.

where in any of that do you read "anti-charity"? 

Government is a horrible charity. Taking away tax-exempt status for churches and other worthy  non-profits only means you must forcibly donate more to government to provide needed services to the poor. Dumbest idea ever.

If you'll notice, I wrote - no one should be exempt until EVERYONE is exempt.
I'm more in favor of cutting spending & Taxes - why is it necessary for government to facilitate all of these services?  And I'm not talking cutting roads/bridges/police - there's a crap load of spending that goes on beyond that.

I was speaking to the anti-church crowd drooling over the prospect of churches paying taxes rather than helping the local poor. I don't even go to church (just isn't my thing), but I donate to one in particular because I see first hand the good they do and know that nearly 100% of the money goes directly to those that need it. Just more proof that the big government crowd is clueless about how taxes are spent. Charity should be left to the citizenry.

I don't think we're in disagreement - I apparently didn't write clearly enough for people to understand.  If everyone can't be tax exempt, no one should be.  Private organizations that are for profit do just as much good for their community - just as thousands of non-profit organizations don't do crap.