Author Topic: Goolsby - KS HS Athlete of the Year (Read 12677 times)

michigancat · « **Reply #25 on:** July 16, 2015, 11:08:23 AM »

Quote from: SPEmaw on July 16, 2015, 11:05:46 AM

I mean, it's pretty weird that he/she won an award for preaching that people should be themselves...all while he spends millions on changing who he naturally is (physically speaking). There were many more cases - especially cases that were much more sports-related - that deserved to win that award last night.

the fact that millions of people think like this and it was Denzel Goolsby's most popular tweet kind of shows that Caitlin deserved to win. Like, the more you try to run it down, the more she deserves it.

WildcatNkilt · « **Reply #26 on:** July 16, 2015, 11:10:58 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on July 16, 2015, 11:08:23 AM

Quote from: SPEmaw on July 16, 2015, 11:05:46 AM
I mean, it's pretty weird that he/she won an award for preaching that people should be themselves...all while he spends millions on changing who he naturally is (physically speaking). There were many more cases - especially cases that were much more sports-related - that deserved to win that award last night.

the fact that millions of people think like this and it was Denzel Goolsby's most popular tweet kind of shows that Caitlin deserved to win. Like, the more you try to run it down, the more she deserves it.

Great post Michigancat

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 16, 2015, 11:24:09 AM »

Quote from: SPEmaw on July 16, 2015, 11:05:46 AM

I mean, it's pretty weird that he/she won an award for preaching that people should be themselves...all while he spends millions on changing who he naturally is (physically speaking). There were many more cases - especially cases that were much more sports-related - that deserved to win that award last night.

That's where I don't think you get it tho. He/she feels like themselves now. I thought it was beautifully done last night and getting up there and speaking for that long about the issue, in front of a room of testosterone, took some rough ridin' courage.

SPEmaw · « **Reply #28 on:** July 16, 2015, 11:37:19 AM »

It took some courage to accept an award that he didn't deserve. We're in agreement there.

Also, Elijah Lee retweeted this/

https://twitter.com/rose_iveynb15/status/621712730806861824

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 16, 2015, 11:44:18 AM »

https://twitter.com/rynjrgr/status/621511199432118272

meow meow · « **Reply #30 on:** July 16, 2015, 12:26:09 PM »

i'm not sure what outrage is the best, the people that don't agree that Caitlyn Jenner should have won the award, or the people that are outraged that other people are outraged about Caitlyn Jenner winning the award

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 16, 2015, 12:27:06 PM »

Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2015, 12:26:09 PM

i'm not sure what outrage is the best, the people that don't agree that Caitlyn Jenner should have won the award, or the people that are outraged that other people are outraged about Caitlyn Jenner winning the award

Must be nice to live life in the middle, M^2.

Trim · « **Reply #32 on:** July 16, 2015, 12:32:25 PM »

Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2015, 12:26:09 PM

i'm not sure what outrage is the best, the people that don't agree that Caitlyn Jenner should have won the award, or the people that are outraged that other people are outraged about Caitlyn Jenner winning the award

Outrage, out rage.

Spracne · « **Reply #33 on:** July 16, 2015, 12:35:30 PM »

Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2015, 12:26:09 PM

i'm not sure what outrage is the best, the people that don't agree that Caitlyn Jenner should have won the award, or the people that are outraged that other people are outraged about Caitlyn Jenner winning the award

If by best you mean worst, it's the people that don't agree that Caitlyn Jenner should have won the award. If by best you mean best, it's the people that are outraged that other people are outraged about Caitlyn Jenner winning the award. This is how the marketplace of ideas clears. Society needs to point out and ridicule bigotry when/where it occurs. Otherwise, younger people might assume that it is acceptable behavior.

Glad I could clear that up for you, mm

michigancat · « **Reply #34 on:** July 16, 2015, 12:40:04 PM »

yes, there is a very clear right and wrong here, thanks for clearing that up for mm, spracs.

meow meow · « **Reply #35 on:** July 16, 2015, 12:58:25 PM »

Denzel said that he believes that God made Caitlyn Jenner a man and that it's disrespectful to change what our Creator intended him to be. so because his opinion is different from yours he is "wrong"? Is there hate in what he said?

michigancat · « **Reply #36 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:01:03 PM »

Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2015, 12:58:25 PM

Denzel said that he believes that God made Caitlyn Jenner a man and that it's disrespectful to change what our Creator intended him to be. so because his opinion is different from yours he is "wrong"? Is there hate in what he said?

it's a common misconception that you can't have a wrong opinion, but in fact you can!

(although perhaps I should have said there is a clear good side and bad side here. And yes, Denzel is on the bad side because that is his opinion).

kslim · « **Reply #37 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:04:05 PM »

Panjandrum · « **Reply #38 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:04:58 PM »

Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2015, 12:58:25 PM

Denzel said that he believes that God made Caitlyn Jenner a man and that it's disrespectful to change what our Creator intended him to be. so because his opinion is different from yours he is "wrong"? Is there hate in what he said?

Well, he didn't say it that eloquently.

I think it's fine is someone disagrees that she shouldn't have won that award. It's a subjective thing. There are a lot of people saying the female basketball player with the brain tumor should have won it, and I think there's merit in that. But I think it takes courage for someone to chronicle a journey that's obviously a difficult story to tell, and then go out on broadcast television to accept an award knowing the amount of hate that will come back their way.

There's a right way and a wrong way to go about establishing a dialogue. Using the word "sick" and the phrase "God help us all" is probably not the way to start a meaningful conversation.

michigancat · « **Reply #39 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:07:22 PM »

lmao I thought we were talking about Denzel Washington

Denzel Goolsby didn't say anything like what meow meow summarized

meow meow · « **Reply #40 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:07:38 PM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on July 16, 2015, 01:04:58 PM

Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2015, 12:58:25 PM
Denzel said that he believes that God made Caitlyn Jenner a man and that it's disrespectful to change what our Creator intended him to be. so because his opinion is different from yours he is "wrong"? Is there hate in what he said?

Well, he didn't say it that eloquently.

I think it's fine is someone disagrees that she shouldn't have won that award. It's a subjective thing. There are a lot of people saying the female basketball player with the brain tumor should have won it, and I think there's merit in that. But I think it takes courage for someone to chronicle a journey that's obviously a difficult story to tell, and then go out on broadcast television to accept an award knowing the amount of hate that will come back their way.

There's a right way and a wrong way to go about establishing a dialogue. Using the word "sick" and the phrase "God help us all" is probably not the way to start a meaningful conversation.

I agree with that, and what I said that Denzel said was a follow up tweet that he had to try and clarify his original tweet.

meow meow · « **Reply #41 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:09:03 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on July 16, 2015, 01:07:22 PM

lmao I thought we were talking about Denzel Washington

Denzel Goolsby didn't say anything like what meow meow summarized

Denzel Goolsby ?@DenzelGoolsby · 15h15 hours ago
@cvrsonpvge Yes I am Christian. God made him a man. I think it is disrespectful to change what our Creator intended us to be.

Spracne · « **Reply #42 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:10:51 PM »

The Lord works in mysterious ways, Denzel.

michigancat · « **Reply #43 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:15:22 PM »

Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2015, 01:09:03 PM

Quote from: michigancat on July 16, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
lmao I thought we were talking about Denzel Washington

Denzel Goolsby didn't say anything like what meow meow summarized

Denzel Goolsby ?@DenzelGoolsby · 15h15 hours ago
@cvrsonpvge Yes I am Christian. God made him a man. I think it is disrespectful to change what our Creator intended us to be.

lmao did god intend for people to get haircuts? I mean, he's just a kid and I ain't mad, but he's 100% wrong. I was wrong about a lot when I was his age. I'm probably still wrong about a lot.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:17:01 PM »

Yup. MC gets it.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:17:41 PM »

We're #blessed we didn't have twitter when we were 18.

KITNfury · « **Reply #46 on:** July 16, 2015, 01:54:38 PM »

This thread really accentuates the fact that I generally dislike most people.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #47 on:** July 16, 2015, 02:04:53 PM »

Panjandrum · « **Reply #48 on:** July 16, 2015, 02:48:53 PM »

Quote from: meow meow on July 16, 2015, 01:09:03 PM

Quote from: michigancat on July 16, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
lmao I thought we were talking about Denzel Washington

Denzel Goolsby didn't say anything like what meow meow summarized

Denzel Goolsby ?@DenzelGoolsby · 15h15 hours ago
@cvrsonpvge Yes I am Christian. God made him a man. I think it is disrespectful to change what our Creator intended us to be.

That's backtracking to justify calling another person "sick".

Jesus also said something about throwing stones and loving neighbors, but no one seems to really care about those.

CNS · « **Reply #49 on:** July 16, 2015, 02:58:17 PM »

FWIW, if there is a god, he doesn't care about any of this stuff.