So immigration...

[star seed 7]

Sorry, I was unclear that it was mitt Romney dancing.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Further supports my hypothesis that if you make the US really shitty for illegals, they'll leave.

I guess thanks to B.O. for inadvertently testing that hypothesis. Sad he had to take down the entire lower class and a good piece of the middle class with it.

i thought illegals came here and immediately were given ipads and free healthcare and snizz?

Apparently these tokens aren't enough to keep people in obamerica

Sad....really

[mocat]

interesting take

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/refugees/419976/

In summary, Ted Kennedy's immigrations reforms have been great for Dems, but a disaster for the US.

Donald Trump’s noisy complaints that immigration is out of control are literally true. Nobody is making conscious decisions about who is wanted and who is not, about how much immigration to accept and what kind to prioritize—not even for the portion of U.S. migration conducted according to law, much less for the larger portion that is not.

Nor is there much understanding of what has happened after it has happened. A simple question like, “How many immigrants are in prison?” turns out to be extraordinarily hard to answer. Poor information invites excessive fears, which are then answered with false assurances and angry accusations.

Nervous about Syrian refugees in the wake of the Paris massacre? How dare you! Would you turn away Jews fleeing Hitler? Oh, you think that analogy is hyperbolic? Tell it to the mayor of New York City.

This frequent invocation of the refugee trauma of the 1930s shuts down all discussion of anything that has happened since. Since 1991, the United States has accepted more than 100,000 Somali refugees. Britain accepted 100,000 as well. Some 50,000 Somali refugees were resettled in Canada; some 40,000 in Sweden; smaller communities were settled in the Netherlands, Norway, and Denmark.

How’s that going?

- Minnesota is home to America’s largest Somali community, 33,000 people. The unemployment rate for Somali Minnesotans in 2015 was triple the state average, 21 percent. As of 2014, about 5,950 of the state’s Somali population received cash assistance; 17,000 receive food assistance as of 2014.

- A close study of Somali refugees by the government of Maine (home to the nation’s second-largest Somali community) found that fewer than half of the working-age population had worked at any time in the five years from 2001 through 2006.

- The U.S. unemployment rate of 20+ percent still represents a huge improvement over rates in Europe. Only about 40 percent of working-age Somali men in Norway are employed. In the Swedish city of Malmo, home to one of the largest Somali communities in Europe, only 20 percent work.

- Somalis have so much difficulty finding work in the developed world because their skills badly mismatch local labor needs. Only about 18 percent of boys and 15 percent of girls attend even primary school in Somalia. UNICEF has given up trying to measure literacy rates. Much of the U.S. refugee population is descended from people held as slaves in Somalia, who accordingly lack any family tradition of education. Their children then flounder in Western schools, baffled by the norms and expectations they encounter there. In the U.K., Somali students pass the standard age 16 high school exams at a rate less than half that of Nigerian immigrant students.

- Struggling with the transition from semi-nomadic-herder society to postindustrial urban life, young Somalis in the West are tempted by criminal activity. Danish Somalis are 10 times more likely to be committed of a serious offense than native-born Danes. At least 29 young Canadian Somalis were murdered in drug-trafficking-related deaths between 2005 and 2010. In July 2012, Richard Stanek, sheriff of the county that encompasses Minneapolis-St. Paul, testified to Congress about the rising danger of American Somali gangs.

- Other young Somalis turn to political and religious violence. An estimated 50 American Somalis returned to fight for al Shabab, committing some of the most heinous acts of that insurgency. One carried out a suicide bombing that killed 24 people in 2009. Al Shabab claimed three American Somalis took part in the attack on Nairobi’s Westgate shopping mall in 2013 that killed at least 67 people. Al Shabab is now intensely recruiting American Somalis to undertake terror missions inside the United States.

There's a lot more in the article.

[michigancat]

If it's true that 85% of the Somali refugees didn't attend primary school, a 20% unemployment rate seems like a huge success.

[CNS]

If it's true that 85% of the Somali refugees didn't attend primary school, a 20% unemployment rate seems like a huge success.

Kansas' school budget issue may have found a solution.

[sonofdaxjones]

KCK killer, in the country illegally. 

[SdK]

I say we deport

[ednksu]

http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2016/03/28/border-states-spend-to-root-out-smuggling

[sonofdaxjones]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/05/terrorists-entering-europe-because-of-porous-borders-may-be-unde/

[eastcat]

Comparing Europe's immigration problem to ours is ridiculous.

[sonofdaxjones]

Comparing Europe's immigration problem to ours is ridiculous.

The old "it can't happen here".

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If it's true that 85% of the Somali refugees didn't attend primary school, a 20% unemployment rate seems like a huge success.

The employment qualifications for guerrilla soldier just aren't what they used to be.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Comparing Europe's immigration problem to ours is ridiculous.

Who are our peers for immigration problems?

[bucket]

The Pope is bringing refugees into the Vatican. I love the Pope! 

[wetwillie]

The Pope is bringing refugees into the Vatican. I love the Pope! 

i hope none of them are little boys

[bucket]

The Pope is bringing refugees into the Vatican. I love the Pope! 

i hope none of them are little boys

Muslims 

[star seed 7]

I think that one went over buckets head

[bucket]

I think that one went over buckets head

No, I get it. However, I prefer to focus on the fact that our Christian nation wants to block Muslim refugees from entering while the Pope chooses to harbor them. Matthew 5:39, Luke 6:29, Luke 6:31, and Matthew 7:12. Were Matthew and Luke roommates?

[wetwillie]

I think that one went over buckets head

No, I get it. However, I prefer to focus on the fact that our Christian nation wants to block Muslim refugees from entering while the Pope chooses to harbor them. Matthew 5:39, Luke 6:29, Luke 6:31, and Matthew 7:12. Were Matthew and Luke roommates?

Lol, this guy.   You realize it was 12 people right?

The US has let in

[bucket]

What's your point?

[wetwillie]

What's your point?

There are millions of Syrian refugees, letting in 12 is nothing more than show. 

[bucket]

What's your point?

There are millions of Syrian refugees, letting in 12 is nothing more than show.

Understood. However, I prefer to look to look at the significance of the fact that the leader of the Catholic Church is harboring Muslims. I am young so please recall a time where the Pope has harbored Muslim refugees.

In the bigger picture, I thoroughly enjoy when the Pope elicits Christian values that this country doesn't. We're such a proud Christian nation, but we hate on Muslims and the LGBT community. Real Christian. Study your Bible. 

[The Big Train]

Who gives a crap what religion it is.  The majority of Muslims don't want to blow stuff up.  Read up on other religions

[bucket]

Who gives a crap what religion it is.  The majority of Muslims don't want to blow stuff up.  Read up on other religions

Do we have a "Christian Values In This Country Suck" thread?