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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #75 on: July 30, 2014, 12:06:13 PM »
The Heirarchy of K-State Running Priorities:

1.  Don't fumble
2.  Know the plays
3.  Block
4.  Intangibles
5.  Intrinsic Values
6.  Don't fumble
7.  Running with the football ability.


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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #76 on: July 30, 2014, 01:21:22 PM »
Whoever wins the job is going to need to have a lot of speed. We are going to spread the defense out with our pass attack. We need a running back that can hit those holes before the defense can close back down.

Defensive speed of Tejas, Landthieves, and Bible Aggy will pose problems to that approach.

Nope. Spread them out and a speedy running back in LHC Bill Snyder's system will tear those teams apart. Just look at what Darren Sproles did to OU in 2003.

What did speedy sproles do in 2004?

Nothing, but we had no passing game in 2004. Webb was an OK runner I guess.

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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #77 on: October 18, 2014, 12:35:52 PM »
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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #78 on: October 18, 2014, 12:42:05 PM »
Maybe we should play our good rb  :dunno:
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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #79 on: October 18, 2014, 12:43:51 PM »
Robinson is so tentative. Not patient. Tentative.

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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #80 on: October 18, 2014, 12:44:14 PM »
Maybe we should play our good rb  :dunno:

You mean the one currently at over 5 ypc today?

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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #81 on: October 18, 2014, 12:45:24 PM »
Maybe we should play our good rb  :dunno:

You mean the one currently at over 5 ypc today?

Yes! I do mean that one!
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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #82 on: October 18, 2014, 12:54:23 PM »
RATHER, I think we see a return of the bubble option that CCQ made so famous.  Hey, that was marginally effective, and CCQ was in charge.  I don't think it's a stretch (lil running game humor  ;) ) to say that Waters is probably a better runner that Coffman was.  That could be a really solid set, especially if we line up Lockett in the slot. 
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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #83 on: October 18, 2014, 12:58:53 PM »
RATHER, I think we see a return of the bubble option that CCQ made so famous.  Hey, that was marginally effective, and CCQ was in charge.  I don't think it's a stretch (lil running game humor  ;) ) to say that Waters is probably a better runner that Coffman was.  That could be a really solid set, especially if we line up Lockett in the slot. 
we did this today!  good job, me!

POP pass with bubble slant. Waters first looked at the slant, then went to a bubble. At this point its just a variation of POP pass.

I have no doubt that Robinson is "faster" than Jones, but he has average vision and below average explosiveness. Jones isn't going to break many long runs, but his combination of explosiveness and vision makes him a consistent runner, actually very similar to Sams. I'll take that guy every time over the "fast" guy who can't get going very fast.

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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #84 on: October 18, 2014, 01:02:50 PM »
RATHER, I think we see a return of the bubble option that CCQ made so famous.  Hey, that was marginally effective, and CCQ was in charge.  I don't think it's a stretch (lil running game humor  ;) ) to say that Waters is probably a better runner that Coffman was.  That could be a really solid set, especially if we line up Lockett in the slot. 
we did this today!  good job, me!

POP pass with bubble slant. Waters first looked at the slant, then went to a bubble. At this point its just a variation of POP pass.

I have no doubt that Robinson is "faster" than Jones, but he has average vision and below average explosiveness. Jones isn't going to break many long runs, but his combination of explosiveness and vision makes him a consistent runner, actually very similar to Sams. I'll take that guy every time over the "fast" guy who can't get going very fast.

Glad you agree we should play the good rb more. Very frustrating that he's still sharing time
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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #85 on: October 18, 2014, 01:06:28 PM »
Our leading rusher is now missing a shoulder

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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #86 on: October 18, 2014, 03:28:43 PM »
So DRob finishes with 66 yards, 8.3 per and a big 38 yard run. Thanks for making me look dumb.

Jones did have a big run for a key first down at the end.

Overall a 32 rush, 160 yard day (5.0 per) is pretty darn good in Norman.

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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #87 on: October 18, 2014, 03:31:38 PM »
So DRob finishes with 66 yards, 8.3 per and a big 38 yard run. Thanks for making me look dumb.

Jones did have a big run for a key first down at the end.

Overall a 32 rush, 160 yard day (5.0 per) is pretty darn good in Norman.

yeah, it ended up being a nice day on the ground. the o-line continues to open up great holes, if our backs ever make a guy miss or break a tackle within 5 yds of the LOS we will be in great shape.

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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #88 on: October 18, 2014, 03:33:31 PM »
Jake had 51 yards rushing with a long of 52 yards. CFB adding sacks to QB rushing always looks funny.

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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #89 on: October 18, 2014, 03:36:24 PM »
D'Blocker is strong... carry's  defensive lineman for power yardage. 
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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2014, 04:20:49 PM »
Lots of sacks and hard hits on our guy jake again today :frown:
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Re: I wonder, can our running game be good if our RBs aren't?
« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2014, 04:22:04 PM »
Lots of sacks and hard hits on our guy jake again today :frown:
Ouch!  Don't know if he has CK toughness.
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