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Ladycats are tied @21 in the first set with ISU. Frank and family are in attendance. Game is on Cox 22 if you are so inclined. Figure this will kill some time before American Horror Story premieres.
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volleyball games seem like they would be a hell of a good time if you could get a crap load of students to go. hardcore EMAW'rs, if possible.
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I'm impressed with the crowd/atmosphere tonight. Not a ton of people but the seats are basically full and it's pretty damn loud. Nice work, students
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Went to a few games to heckle. Was loud and fun.
Guys, imagine watching elite college volleyball games in this:
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AND you can get raging roaring drunk. :gocho:
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Turns out you can kick balls in volleyball. I did not know this.
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Turns out you can kick balls in volleyball. I did not know this.
Have you learned about a pancake yet? Well?!?!?!
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Pancake's only a tiny bit different than other digs. I've watched a ton of v-ball and don't recall ever seeing a kick save. Hell, I dated a v-ball player for over a year and didn't know that. Seems like people would do that more often.
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I know coaches that would sling your sorry ass if you ever stuck your foot out there like you were going to do something with it.
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I know coaches that would sling your sorry ass if you ever stuck your foot out there like you were going to do something with it.
:lick:
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did they win?
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Turns out you can kick balls in volleyball. I did not know this.
:horrorsurprise:
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great win vs ku tonight, 4-1. what's that like 15-1 now? lulz, jeez ksu.
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Not so fast Clams. We're still trying to figure out if KU's national champion quiditch (sp?) beat the Itchcats. Also, still trying to figure out if we actually have a team in the first place.
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great win vs ku tonight, 4-1. what's that like 15-1 now? lulz, jeez ksu.
I think it is 15-1. JFC.
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Cats tied 1-1 w/ Mizzou. Game is on FSKC. Nice crowd in MHK.
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Caitlynn Donahue messed around and is one kill away from a triple-double. That would be the first since 2004 and only the 8th ever. Also, she's pretty hawt. :fatty:
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Were there boobs? Otherwise, :dunno:
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Cat's beat KU last night 3-1. i guess that makes things 18-1 or something ridiculous.
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Twenty wins, back to the NCAA, Donahue is a strong contender for conference POY as a Sophomore, one senior on the squad. Ol' Suzie has rebuilt a monster.
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Cat's beat KU last night 3-1. i guess that makes things 18-1 or something ridiculous.
Gotta just get ku out of confy. Worst AD of all time.
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Twenty wins, back to the NCAA, Donahue is a strong contender for conference POY as a Sophomore, one senior on the squad. Ol' Suzie has rebuilt a monster.
donahue is also a strong contender to be stalked by clams.
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estrovolley back to the NCAAs officially. Good for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
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Hopefully they can win a championship so we can get ben off our back.
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Twenty wins, back to the NCAA, Donahue is a strong contender for conference POY as a Sophomore, one senior on the squad. Ol' Suzie has rebuilt a monster.
donahue is also a strong contender to be stalked by clams.
:lol:
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Good for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
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Pelger did not win conference POY, her late season injury killed her numbers. She did make 1st team all conference with about 6908 other girls, she wasn't a unanimous selection which is rough ridin' ridiculous.
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I agree with the guys on 1350 that the hottie blonde setter got screwed with no honors.
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Good for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
comeonman
Aces per set
#118
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/48/p3
Hitting is behind KU for christ sake
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http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/45/p3
yes we were 5th this year. Clearly you haven't watched or listen to many games. When you let Mizzou and KU back into matches because of services errors there is a serious issues.
Also we have no players in the top 10 of services aces.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=161837
KSU v KU stats (correct me if I'm wrong SA: Services Aces, SE: Services errors)
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=172757&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.BOX
9 Errors to 2 Aces.
Their best win against SECaggie was due to bringing that ratio back to a positive level
http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=170256
Her philosophy is that you aren't hitting hard enough if you aren't making errors. Trying to run a razor thing margin like that is ok when you have superior talent and players on horse roids like NU, Penn St, UT. K-State needs to get the ball in play when possible to prevent rally killing points from being given away.
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Good for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
comeonman
Aces per set
#118
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/48/p3
Hitting is behind KU for christ sake
#103
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/45/p3
yes we were 5th this year. Clearly you haven't watched or listen to many games. When you let Mizzou and KU back into matches because of services errors there is a serious issues.
Also we have no players in the top 10 of services aces.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=161837
KSU v KU stats (correct me if I'm wrong SA: Services Aces, SE: Services errors)
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=172757&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.BOX
9 Errors to 2 Aces.
Their best win against SECaggie was due to bringing that ratio back to a positive level
http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=170256
Her philosophy is that you aren't hitting hard enough if you aren't making errors. Trying to run a razor thing margin like that is ok when you have superior talent and players on horse roids like NU, Penn St, UT. K-State needs to get the ball in play when possible to prevent rally killing points from being given away.
I completely disagree with that. If you think you have inferior talent, I am not saying Suzie ascribes to this line of thinking just using your talking point, you don't want to be lobbing serves over the net and let your opponent, who gets the first swing on a serve receive, tee off on you. If your opponent has better hitters the last thing you want to do is get into a swinging match with them, you have to win points other ways, hence you having inferior hitters. The point of aggressive serving isn't necessarily to get aces but to disrupt the offense of the receiving team.
You said she "can't teach serving for crap.". She has no problem "teaching serving" whatever that means you are opposed to her philosophy, that doesn't mean she can't teach serving. I understand it can be frustrating to watch so many serves careen into the net, but her philosophy serves a purpose whether you agree with it or not.
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Good for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
comeonman
Aces per set
#118
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/48/p3
Hitting is behind KU for christ sake
#103
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/45/p3
yes we were 5th this year. Clearly you haven't watched or listen to many games. When you let Mizzou and KU back into matches because of services errors there is a serious issues.
Also we have no players in the top 10 of services aces.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=161837
KSU v KU stats (correct me if I'm wrong SA: Services Aces, SE: Services errors)
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=172757&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.BOX
9 Errors to 2 Aces.
Their best win against SECaggie was due to bringing that ratio back to a positive level
http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=170256
Her philosophy is that you aren't hitting hard enough if you aren't making errors. Trying to run a razor thing margin like that is ok when you have superior talent and players on horse roids like NU, Penn St, UT. K-State needs to get the ball in play when possible to prevent rally killing points from being given away.
I completely disagree with that. If you think you have inferior talent, I am not saying Suzie ascribes to this line of thinking just using your talking point, you don't want to be lobbing serves over the net and let your opponent, who gets the first swing on a serve receive, tee off on you. If your opponent has better hitters the last thing you want to do is get into a swinging match with them, you have to win points other ways, hence you having inferior hitters. The point of aggressive serving isn't necessarily to get aces but to disrupt the offense of the receiving team.
You said she "can't teach serving for crap.". She has no problem "teaching serving" whatever that means you are opposed to her philosophy, that doesn't mean she can't teach serving. I understand it can be frustrating to watch so many serves careen into the net, but her philosophy serves a purpose whether you agree with it or not.
you do bring up a valid point with the attempted Ace in favor of allowing a team with superior talent to setup their return play. You don't want to give away service, that is 100% correct. However there is a difference between aggressive service and having an acceptable number of services errors. You should strive to limit returns and errors, not say that errors are a factor of being overly aggressive. Good point though, I'll watch for that more in the future.
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live streaming of the volleycats vs. wushock
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Sets up the first matchup of a current big 12 member and a detector in any team sport.
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ya it's a crap match up, would rather play someone than a) the #2 seed and b) someone that we haven't played for the last 80 years.
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Damn, a win and it's a Sweet 16 and a possible BIG12 confy championship and possible BCS Bowl all before Christmas
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Shultzy says Cats up 2-1 vs #2 Nubbs.
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:horrorsurprise:
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CATS WIN
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:combofan: ..... ?????
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Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
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Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
:lol:
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Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
:lol:
Nice win on btn2go.com. Looked like Bo Pelini was in the crowd as well. :emawkid: :emawkid:
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Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
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Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
They had them stuffed in a corner. Maybe 20 band members?
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OH HOLY crap!!!! Easily the greatest win in the history of the program. :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid:
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Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
Nope a pep band made the trip.
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OH HOLY crap!!!! Easily the greatest win in the history of the program. :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid:
BIG 12 Volleyball clap clap clapclapclap
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Cat fans having a joyful evening. Old dude and that lady pointing 3 fingers at each other. Front row kid joining in as well.
Fat lady needs a new K-State Proud shirt, that one is like 5 years old. One guy can't even look he's so nervous. The toughest find was probably that english nanny lady that tells bad parents how to take care of their kids. She's hiding.
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omg. those corns only care about two sports and womens vball is one and we just killed them on their court in their faces. i mean, i kind of feel sorry for them. i mean, what if they beat us in mens bball in the mens ncaa tourney? because that's how they feel right now.
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honestly like a K-State/OU circa 2003 game. Great work by the lady cats.
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not gonna hide it boys...feels good :emawkid:
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Soak it up boys, this one was huge. Huge.
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A real David v Goliath. Except this time, Goliath has recently left town in shame because he was tired of getting his ass kicked by two bigger Goliaths. Still, David v Goliath.
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it was the refs!!!!
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They are all kinds of out of whack. Let's hope that pancake dig non call doesn't break them
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How did K-State get to bring their band? More cheerleaders than NU? Plus a yell-leader?
Nebraska had trouble passing all night and they were out of position. If you have those two issues, it doesn't matter how great of hitters you have since you can't get them the ball.
I'm about to have a rough ridin' heart attack. It was a backhanded complement, but a complement none the less from a husker. :sdeek:
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knapplc, on 02 December 2011 - 09:43 PM, said:
Astounding. This team is better than this.
Hats off to K-State. They played the match of their lives tonight.
I agree with you knapp. This team has been out of whack since the whole Lauren thing. KSU played great, and I won't take anything away from them, but this has been a different team the last month.
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ummm WTF
RE: 12-2-11 Kansas State vs. Nebraska Gamethread
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Posted: Yesterday 9:21 PM
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Werth with the kill set point 24-22
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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Werth with another kill Huskers win Set 4 25-22
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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thanks for the updates. Keep them coming.
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LET'S GO HUSKERS!!!
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Posted: Yesterday 9:26 PM
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Here we go with Set 5 - a game to 15
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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Posted: Yesterday 9:27 PM
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2-0 KSU we need to block better
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2-1 KSU - back row hit by Morgan B
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Posted: Yesterday 9:29 PM
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4-2 KSU
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We are only sending 1 blocker to their hitters and we are getting burned 5-3 them
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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Tied at 5
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7-5 them
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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8-5 them we just are not sharp tonight and they are playing very well. We are not blocking well enough and they are winning all the points at the net.
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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Big comeback needed!
Your 11-0 GREEN BAY PACKERS!
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Posted: Yesterday 9:34 PM
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Double hit on them 8-6
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10-7
Your 11-0 GREEN BAY PACKERS!
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9-6 them, they are just quicker tonight.
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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11-8 KSU
Your 11-0 GREEN BAY PACKERS!
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10-8
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Posted: Yesterday 9:37 PM
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Timeout 11-8 puddy cats
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Posted: Yesterday 9:38 PM
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We're down in the 5th set?
Go Huskers!
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Posted: Yesterday 9:39 PM
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Yes 12 to 8, cook just took his second timeout.
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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Posted: Yesterday 9:40 PM
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12-9 on a Mancuso kill
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Posted: Yesterday 9:41 PM
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12-10 Wilberger gets the kill
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13-11 them - Werth with the kill
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WE are in the net 14-11 them - Match point
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15-11 Them Season over
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Crap. Just didn't peak at the right time. Wonder just how much the "distraction" played a part. Great season. Great team. Next year ladies.
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Just were slow tonight and didn't block well.
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins - preferably before they are 15 yards down field.
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Let me be the first to state the obvious: what an effing monumental disaster.
The team was ranked in the top three for most of the season, then the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
I have to be honest with you, I'm not going to miss Coach Cook's annual chokes in the tournament when he finally leaves. The team should have been in the Final Four for sure.
Massive freaking choke. In my opinion, Coach's Little Princess should take her hit and run action elsewhere.
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The coaches daughter hit a motorcyclist on the side of the road and broke his leg. She was driving with a suspended license and left the scene and was only suspended two games. I heard shes dating Taylor Martinez.
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I only really pay attention to the K-State V-Ball team, so I was "surprised" while doing a little reading out there on that Internet to discover that the Cornhole V-Ball coach is quite possibly kind of a douche.
Am I correct in that assessment?
Does Cornhole roid up their V-ball players as well?
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I only really pay attention to the K-State V-Ball team, so I was "surprised" while doing a little reading out there on that Internet to discover that the Cornhole V-Ball coach is quite possibly kind of a douche.
Am I correct in that assessment?
Does Cornhole roid up their V-ball players as well?
yeah their coach is a d-bag. Tried to start a fight with U of Washington's coach who use to be our coach (Jim McLaughlin), because of a controversial call.
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Cats on ESPN3
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Cats gonna get plenty of time to enjoy Hawaii. :emawkid: No point in being in Hawaii to only be indoors.
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good season for the volley cats. Shame to get swept like that to end it. Really can't complain too much about this season all things considered.
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that NU win was legendary. A shame people it doesn't resonate w/the average fan.
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that NU win was legendary. A shame people it doesn't resonate w/the average fan.
it resonated with me, fatty :emawkid:
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that NU win was legendary. A shame people it doesn't resonate w/the average fan.
i talked lots of crap about it. Got in some NU fans faces.
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then the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
song as old as rhyme
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Word is on the street the Volleycats are getting a Nebraska transfer. Her name is Taylor Simpson and was the No. 9 recruit in the nation last year. She can play next year. :users:
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that's great news salcat
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that's great news salcat
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That was a tall boot showdown.
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I'd knock boots with some of them.
Does any still use that phrase? My first time!
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That was a tall boot showdown.
Oh man. Volleyball girls. :love:
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so, I guess we are pretty good at this sport again (not surprising)
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we're good, but we haven't played anyone with a pulse yet
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are volleycat games interesting to go to? i was going to go tonight, but got distracted by nfl, i'd like to check it out at some point this year though.
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yeah pretty fun. i know a volleycat so i'm kind of insidery if you guys want any volleyball scoops.
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Volleyball matches are amazing. If you are a student I'd recommend sitting in the Purple Pit for a few matches get close to appreciate the speed the game is being played. Even blowouts are fun matches to attend, volleyball is also very underrated when it comes to crap talking opportunities if that's your thing.
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Ahearn is hot :(
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It didn't interest me until i watched it on the Olympics, and it was a good sport to watch on tv.
And not to get gpcy, but the girls are cute too. I was walking behind two of them this afternoon and :eek:
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vball matches are great to go to fwiw
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lots of old pervs in the crowd
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And not to get gpcy, but the girls are cute too. I was walking behind two of them this afternoon and :eek:
Wait, I thought you said you weren't going to get gpcy?
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And not to get gpcy, but the girls are cute too.
Wait, I thought you said you weren't going to get gpcy?
There... Not so gpcy
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Also, the three volleyball games I went to back in freshman / sophomore year were lots of fun. Should have / should go to more, but timing usually sucks for me.
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This Saturday evening at 6PM should work great for everyone! :thumbsup:
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If youre a current student, there's nohing gpcy about ogling some volleyball chicks.
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If youre a current student, there's nohing gpcy about ogling some volleyball chicks.
if that's the reason you are going to the games then there certainly is
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then the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
song as old as rhyme
This remains one of my fave own-posts.
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If youre a current student, there's nohing gpcy about ogling some volleyball chicks.
if that's the reason you are going to the games then there certainly is
it's not.
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This Saturday evening at 6PM should work great for everyone! :thumbsup:
Bachelor party on saturday, i WILL be getting gpcy. :peek:
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This Saturday evening at 6PM should work great for everyone! :thumbsup:
Not a fan of that start time. I thought they should have moved it closer to the end of the football game.
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we're good, but we haven't played anyone with a pulse yet
Beat #10 Minnesota
11-0 now. :emawkid:
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we're good, but we haven't played anyone with a pulse yet
Beat #10 Minnesota
11-0 now. :emawkid:
:surprised: we're going places
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Minnesota beat UT 3-1 in Austin earlier this season. UT was the runaway pick to win the conference.
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Beating #20 Dayton 2 sets to none right now.
I think we might be good.
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:ksu:
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8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
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8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
:dubious:
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8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
Ok
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Only K-State and Oregon are undefeated in volleyball AND football this year!!!
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Only K-State and Oregon are undefeated in volleyball AND football this year!!!
sister school
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Last time we won B12 V Ball, we also won B12 Football and WBB. :driving:
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Only K-State and Oregon are undefeated in volleyball AND football this year!!!
sister school
That's undefeated AND ranked. South Carolina's volleyball team is 13-0 & they've only lost 6 sets all season thus far. That's 39 sets won and only 6 lost. Not only are they not ranked, but they aren't receiving any votes. Volleyball has stupid crap like this often, I'm sure many of the voters are completely unaware that USC is undefeated.
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8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
:dubious:
you know I love you mr boston lets all go get our purple pit on they play this saturday at 3 :dunno:
:fistpump:
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Last time we won B12 V Ball, we also won B12 Football and WBB. :driving:
WOULD TAKE
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so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.
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so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.
MIR is so gonna beat you up
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8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
:dubious:
you know I love you mr boston lets all go get our purple pit on they play this saturday at 3 :dunno:
:fistpump:
Thought I heard on the radio this morning the game is at 7 or so. I will be in KC and also the SnyderCats play. Next home game!
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so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day.
That sounds like a ridiculous amount of fun.
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so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.
MIR is so gonna beat you up
Yeah Nebraska was #1 in the country and it was the first time ISU had ever beat NU in Ames. Is court storming only for boy sports? Seems this was a very appropriate court storming.
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so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.
MIR is so gonna beat you up
Yeah Nebraska was #1 in the country and it was the first time ISU had ever beat NU in Ames. Is court storming only for boy sports? Seems this was a very appropriate court storming.
it's hard to not have mob mentality when you're around nubb anything, really. completely understandable. go spikeclones :party:
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oh no :frown:
swept by OU
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:flush:
I come home from Pak'n with some elites, fire up the HD DVR and was subjected to that :barf: Terrible defense, no creativity on offense mainly due to the awful passing, looked a step slow, poor officiating, & the worst part about it was listening to the rough ridin' moron OU TV guys who didn't know crap about volleyball, & despite it being in HD the production of the broadcast was an abortion to sport (Currie, Learfield, FSKC IDGAF get your crap together). They had two.different interviews during the broadcast one with Andrew Fitzgerald and another with Kenny Stills (sidebar, is every athlete at OU some kind of human mutation, eff they all resemble something you'd see in a haunted house) in both of these interviews they completely ignored the play on the court missing multiple points showing these rough ridin' thriller extras.
God I'm so pissed, eff OU.
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:frown: so much for the Big 12 title
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:frown: so much for the Big 12 title
I wouldn't go that far. I was pissed about how poor we looked but OU is the 4th best team in the conference, we're not talking about a loss to West Virginia. Pro tip, they suck.
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WVU coming to town Thursday night. As some k-state0 sports casters would say, the tilt will be at 7pm.
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WVU is gonna spend a ton of dough flying all their teams to like every road game. Yikes.
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WVU coming to town Thursday night. As some k-state0 sports casters would say, the tilt will be at 7pm.
I'll try to go to that. For sure will go to the ISU game.
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thx wints, grabs some pics pls and post them in this thread. the sexier the better :fatty:
:dance: :party:
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:frown: so much for the Big 12 title
I wouldn't go that far. I was pissed about how poor we looked but OU is the 4th best team in the conference, we're not talking about a loss to West Virginia. Pro tip, they suck.
Iowa State, who was picked 2nd in the conference, lost to KU last night.
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thx wints, grabs some pics pls and post them in this thread. the sexier the better :fatty:
:dance: :party:
kinda gopofitzy0 right?
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:runaway:
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We are destroying them.
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:horrorsurprise:
Pelger
:horrorsurprise:
25-8 :lol:
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First blood. :dance:
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holy crap we have some really talented girls
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holy crap we have some really talented girls
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daddy likey!
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unfortunately, Ed is a good percentage of women's volleyball fans
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unfortunately, Ed is a good percentage of women's volleyball fans
:confused:
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well instead of waiting for SD to respond (probably abusing himself right now) I have to say I was very impressed with the hitting, particularly the swing hit setups. Setting has been fan-freaking-tastic. Team looks much more atheltic/fit this year. Blocking was pretty damn good. Loved Donaghue's touches over the lazy block off the fake sets, I think 2 worked, 1 bearly out.
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I think West Virginia is terrible. Good sweep tonight. (i think)
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I think West Virginia is terrible. Good sweep tonight. (i think)
where did you sit?
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crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehh
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OT: can someone tell me how to save pictures to my hard drive?
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I think West Virginia is terrible. Good sweep tonight. (i think)
where did you sit?
We got there pretty late. We sat in upper west side.
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crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehh
Free shirts! I'll be there.
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OT: can someone tell me how to save pictures to my hard drive?
treat our young ladies with some respect :curse:
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crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehh
Free shirts! I'll be there.
there was free socks tonight. almost went to get some sweet retro socks.
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clams and katdaddy would have an absolute blast at a vball game together.
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i bet none of the girls could block my spike :fatty:
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holy crap we have some really talented girls
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holy crap we have some really talented girls
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well instead of waiting for SD to respond (probably abusing himself right now) I have to say I was very impressed with the hitting, particularly the swing hit setups. Setting has been fan-freaking-tastic. Team looks much more atheltic/fit this year. Blocking was pretty damn good. Loved Donaghue's touches over the lazy block off the fake sets, I think 2 worked, 1 bearly out.
with all due respect, stop. Keep going to matches though.
Next week is the biggest week of regular season matches in Kansas State Volleyball history, hope there's huge crowds at Ahearn. And yes WVU sucks, easily the worst team in the conference.
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well instead of waiting for SD to respond (probably abusing himself right now) I have to say I was very impressed with the hitting, particularly the swing hit setups. Setting has been fan-freaking-tastic. Team looks much more atheltic/fit this year. Blocking was pretty damn good. Loved Donaghue's touches over the lazy block off the fake sets, I think 2 worked, 1 bearly out.
with all due respect, stop. Keep going to matches though.
Next week is the biggest week of regular season matches in Kansas State Volleyball history, hope there's huge crowds at Ahearn. And yes WVU sucks, easily the worst team in the conference.
right.......
not sure what your beef is
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holy crap we have some really talented girls
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:drool:
i wish there was a craiglist section just for our girls volleyball players (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg10%2F8894%2Fdroolxx.gif&hash=a07545de27a2cb8c4f07072dfc60ba57688fceb0)
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crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehh
I may be able to come late... rugby practice and stuff
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info for comparo
2012 numbers/2011 season ending numbers
Hit % 272 /218
Assists 13.39/12.63
Op Hit % 153/207
Block 281/243
Kills 14.14/13.53
Dig 14.33/15.28
and aces are up. So yeah I see this team, even though there are a lot of the same faces, as being much better so far. Now legit issues can be asked about competition level.
Anyone know where I can find service errors? I don't see them in the big 12 stats.
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swept Baylor
anyone going tonight?
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swept Baylor
anyone going tonight?
Going to be the biggest game so far. Trying to make it.
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Attendance through eight games.
Average: 1626
High: UC Irvine (2715)
Low: Oakland (989)
Last year's average attendance was 1520 for 13 games, ranking 24th in the nation. On last year's list, 1626 would put us at 22, but I think attendance usually gets a bump during the conference schedule.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wis/sports/w-volley/auto_pdf/2011-12/misc_non_event/Attendance.pdf
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swept Baylor
anyone going tonight?
Do you want to sit together ednksu? :D
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:peek:
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:peek:
We'll see you there seven.
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swept Baylor
anyone going tonight?
Do you want to sit together ednksu? :D
I might have to go alone being that the miss is not feeling well. Maybe I'll do my best Fitz and act a creeper.
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:emawkid:
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Excellent Ace. Bounced it right off the ISU's head.
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Me likey the cheerleader with the green legging things.
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you guys got this on TV?
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you guys got this on TV?
FCS
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you guys got this on TV?
FCS
you on Cox kansas? It seems to be some big 10 game or something....
maybe I've gone channel Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)...
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found it
non HD :curse:
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:dance:
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omg! 2nd set was awesome
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nice comeback, ebb and comeback again
winters must be fist pumping all over the place after that
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nice comeback, ebb and comeback again
winters must be fist pumping all over the place after that
I was pretty pumped!
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still not happy with the number of service errors to aces. not impressed with hitters going center when down the line is open (widely at times). Seems like old bad habits from last year. I noticed this mostly in the 2nd set (I think off hand).
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Big game in a little under 2 hours, will be quite tough to win the Big 12 without a win tonight.
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Not ready for the big leagues :frown:
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2nd set was pretty demoralizing after they came back... fans were out of it after that, too, I think.
They should still do very, very well in the Big 12. Still psyched for the rest of the season. :emawkid:
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Girls need to start taking the CTR seriously, the other gal's super bowl isn't a walk in the park.
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I wanted the Dr. Pepper (or is it P66?) for the Lady Volleycats :(
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Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
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Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
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Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
have you asked currie? just wondering what his official line on all of it is.
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Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
have you asked currie? just wondering what his official line on all of it is.
Why would I? It's not like I would get a tangible answer. When he strikes a deal it will certainly be mentioned in his weekly email and/or a press release.
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Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
have you asked currie? just wondering what his official line on all of it is.
Why would I? It's not like I would get a tangible answer. When he strikes a deal it will certainly be mentioned in his weekly email and/or a press release.
why would you? probably the same reason you keep asking here. (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.175)
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need a broom emoticon
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need a broom emoticon
Would it be a good thing here?
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need a broom emoticon
Would it be a good thing here?
we beat TCU in 3 sets last night, but to answer your question it would be irrelevant here. Good teams beat shitty teams in 3, its expected.
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need a broom emoticon
Would it be a good thing here?
we beat TCU in 3 sets last night, but to answer your question it would be irrelevant here. Good teams beat shitty teams in 3, its expected.
but we lost to OU and UT (at home no less) in straight sets.......philosoraptor asks you square that circle
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really not happy with the second set. Block was in the wrong place, wrong angle a lot. Donahue had an absolutely amazing set/save for a nice hit and point.
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what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
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what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
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what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.
But the hitting when good sets were in place were unimaginative and predictable. There were honestly series in the 2nd and 4th sets where KU could have had one player on the court to dig the hit. Same spot, just awful.
Did you see Donahue's great backwards tip set in the 2nd? Pure genius.
I really don't know how Porubek is seeing all that much time. Very lazy play from here tonight. Poor footwork getting to places, reaching way too much, poor service.
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WEBER :shakesfist:
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what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.
But the hitting when good sets were in place were unimaginative and predictable. There were honestly series in the 2nd and 4th sets where KU could have had one player on the court to dig the hit. Same spot, just awful.
Did you see Donahue's great backwards tip set in the 2nd? Pure genius.
I really don't know how Porubek is seeing all that much time. Very lazy play from here tonight. Poor footwork getting to places, reaching way too much, poor service.
Some of that KU defense is attributable to scouting. Bechard is Fritz's mentor, he's well aware of what we run because he taught her. They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent. The defense, if played well can force hitters to hit at certain spots at that point its up to one or two back row players, depending on where you're attempting to force outside hitters to defend that place, somedays are better than others. I haven't seen KU outside ood our match to know how they are defending but I'm guessing that they are aggressively blocking line while fanning the other front row player wide & short leaving 2 back row players to defend a lot of court playing the angle off of the middle blocker.
The best way to beat this defense is to feed the middle quicks so that the blockers have to hesitate when going outside. When your passing is trash your hitting is predictable and blockers can force you to hit to the middle of the floor.
BTW Lila is our second best hitter, I love her one of my favorite players ever. Her issue isn't laziness its frankly her fitness or lack thereof.
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GO CATS
3-2 over Yosemite Sam Aggie
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They are really scuffling right now, better turn it around quickly.
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They are really scuffling right now, better turn it around quickly.
Playing WVU next, should be a good game to get back on track with :thumbs:
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more on track
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/102412aaa.html
Porubek had her head nearer where the sun was shining
more importantly the block sucked less and hitting was better
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donahue having an absolutely brilliant night serving thought 2 sets so far.
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choppy 3rd set that we dropped, people trying to do too much.
4th set wasn't bad, never quite put them away like we could have.
Winters or MiR make it over?
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KU @ MHK tonight at 7 on FSKC.
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90's night! first 250 students get a snap bracelet!
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choppy 3rd set that we dropped, people trying to do too much.
4th set wasn't bad, never quite put them away like we could have.
Winters or MiR make it over?
I did not.
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watching the volleykatz on FSNKC (thanks currie!). wow! somebody call the boner patrol, amirite guys? :highfive:
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losers
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losers
Football school
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currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
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currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
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currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Stepping back from the keyboard for a bit has let me consider somethings, just like last season, still don't think Fritz is right.
Hitting is atrocious. I really should find some way to review footage, but last night and all the other games I've been to let me believe that they are trained to hit to a location on the court way too much. When KU is able to position one player to dig a lot of hits with multiple rotations, the proof is there. Our hitters are dynamic and athletic enough to do something else, save Porubek who require a perfect set to get a decent hit and than it is going to the same spot almost every time.
Too many of last nights failures rest on Fritz's game plan. There is no way the number of tip overs while in hitting position wasn't game plan related. It caught KU a few times, but more often than not, they had the short play covered behind the block. Another game plan issue or game prep issue was the block. Absolutely horrid last night. They were constantly biting on the fake to one hitter only to have it go to a secondary hitter who was in better position. The block was CONSTANTLY off on timing. That level of failure at this level of play has to be game planning, thinking KU was playing fast to first hitters. Not only that there were so many opportuntiies for in game adjustment here. We had too many net calls from poor positioning and way too many KU rallies which were not stemmed by timeouts. I can think of one time we scored coming out of the time out, the rest of the time out were slight interruptions to KU's charge.
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currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Stepping back from the keyboard for a bit has let me consider somethings, just like last season, still don't think Fritz is right.
Hitting is atrocious. I really should find some way to review footage, but last night and all the other games I've been to let me believe that they are trained to hit to a location on the court way too much. When KU is able to position one player to dig a lot of hits with multiple rotations, the proof is there. Our hitters are dynamic and athletic enough to do something else, save Porubek who require a perfect set to get a decent hit and than it is going to the same spot almost every time.
Too many of last nights failures rest on Fritz's game plan. There is no way the number of tip overs while in hitting position wasn't game plan related. It caught KU a few times, but more often than not, they had the short play covered behind the block. Another game plan issue or game prep issue was the block. Absolutely horrid last night. They were constantly biting on the fake to one hitter only to have it go to a secondary hitter who was in better position. The block was CONSTANTLY off on timing. That level of failure at this level of play has to be game planning, thinking KU was playing fast to first hitters. Not only that there were so many opportuntiies for in game adjustment here. We had too many net calls from poor positioning and way too many KU rallies which were not stemmed by timeouts. I can think of one time we scored coming out of the time out, the rest of the time out were slight interruptions to KU's charge.
I've played and coached volleyball for 20 years. If I could #humblebrag for a second I have had personal coaching instruction from Dr. Carl McGown, Dr. Doug Beal, Dr. Marv Dunphy, Jim McLaughlin and Hugh McCutcheon. This is absurd. It's opinion so I can't say you're wrong but the flawed logic is completely off the reservation. It's VLVBIQ dressed up as something else. I explained this after your last meltdown, either you didn't read it or didn't understand it. You are completely barking up the wrong tree here.
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what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.
But the hitting when good sets were in place were unimaginative and predictable. There were honestly series in the 2nd and 4th sets where KU could have had one player on the court to dig the hit. Same spot, just awful.
Did you see Donahue's great backwards tip set in the 2nd? Pure genius.
I really don't know how Porubek is seeing all that much time. Very lazy play from here tonight. Poor footwork getting to places, reaching way too much, poor service.
Some of that KU defense is attributable to scouting. Bechard is Fritz's mentor, he's well aware of what we run because he taught her. They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent. The defense, if played well can force hitters to hit at certain spots at that point its up to one or two back row players, depending on where you're attempting to force outside hitters to defend that place, somedays are better than others. I haven't seen KU outside ood our match to know how they are defending but I'm guessing that they are aggressively blocking line while fanning the other front row player wide & short leaving 2 back row players to defend a lot of court playing the angle off of the middle blocker.
The best way to beat this defense is to feed the middle quicks so that the blockers have to hesitate when going outside. When your passing is trash your hitting is predictable and blockers can force you to hit to the middle of the floor.
BTW Lila is our second best hitter, I love her one of my favorite players ever. Her issue isn't laziness its frankly her fitness or lack thereof.
this is your post from before and it in NO way corrects my position but instead adds more credibility to it.
Your point about passing was valid once again. They were consistently giving Donahue crap to work with. Yet we had the MOST tip overs in our KU match compared to the rest of the season. It was so painfully obvious that this was a game plan decision and not targets of opportunity. When taking actual hits instead of tips, k-state was consistently slow to hit, often times going to the exact opposite of setting middle, instead opting for outside cross shots which were only targeted to one spot on the court. That is why KU was able to cover the entire back half of the court with 2 freaking players. When spray and pray Porubek is able to find the court by hitting down line and no one else consistently tries, there is an issue. Their down line coverage wasn't there for the majority of the night. They knew they could tuck in tight and block down and leave obvious lanes open because we will only hit to a few spots on the court. There was no attempt to keep them honest by going line, aside from a few times Porubek diverted from the game plan. I will say that, and I believe it was in the 3rd set, they did attempt to hit line off broken plays and KU did a great job of moving their block over forcing us into errors/hits OOB, but it was completely abandoned otherwise. Now I do agree that passing is killing our offense, forcing Donahue to come up with some absolute miracle sets in order to have some sort of play. Bad passing is square one forcing us to do certain things. But I also believe from a game plan standpoint middle hitting is not a priority from watching where good sets are going. Some of that might be due to passing, some of it might be due to risk/reward analysis in the face of bad passing, but a lot of it seems to be directed action (Porubek being set 3 times in a row for the same hit every time).
I would also love to hear something about our block. We were constantly sending 2 and 3 players up with little to no timing, biting on first action when it was painfully obvious KU was using a feint action designed to confuse the block. When 3 girls are consistently going up they should be able to get a piece, they consistently were not. I don't know if we're not athletic or hvbiq enough to run the swing block they way it needs to be done, but it isn't work at all when inferior team are having a field day with the defense.
And if you were really trained by Mclaughlin I don't see how you can agree with Fritz's service philosophy either. Telling people that errors are acceptable is not okay.
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I'll take this backwards first. Who I received training by has no bearing as to whether or not I agree with Fritz's serving philosophy. That's like saying since Bob Stoops coached with LHC Bill Snyder he should stand up his tight end. If I coached high level college volleyball I think I would serve aggressively for the simple reason that since sideout scoring was eliminated a point is scored on every serve. If you allow high level teams to essentially receive a free ball you will get killed. I'm not sure why you see this is an issue, no matter what your serving philosophy is you're going to have serving errors, part of the game. I could understand the angst if her team's were near the bottom of the league in serving, fact is traditionally her team's have been near the top of the league in serving. Look it up, you'll see, maybe if you find it for yourself you will have an easier time accepting this and drop this gripe.
Now as to the body of what you're talking about, you kind of answered your own question. If they aren't passing they aren't hitting. Also everyone defends with two in the back. You may have one rotation where you can play three back. Now did Fritz or Grove see something in the video to let them know that the tip was there at certain times, maybe, sure, I guess. However, if they did you as a player have to execute. Whether the defense knows its coming or not a well executed tip, like a bunt in baseball, is impossible to defend. This is the same with finding the right spots when you swing. You as a hitter need to find the places to hit but you can't tip the swing with your shoulders too early. I have no idea what happened last night, I'd need to see the coaches film to see what went wrong, although it is pretty easy watching the broadcast to delineate that KU is better than I'd this year. In summary to this point, you cannot blame Fritz for her game plan, it just doesn't work in volleyball. Game planning is a really small part of developing a great team, your system is much more important. If you're going to freak out with every loss you should be effusive with every win. It's not like football where the preparation and lead up can win or lose you a game if the team's are equal. College volleyball coaches are hired to get the best players to run their system, not gameplan.
The blocking is similar. It isn't a matter of "what's wrong with the blocking" its what happened with that block. We are a good blocking team, 3rd in the conference since conference play started. If they had a bad night again I'd have to see why this block was slow, or why that block floated. We don't have a problem with blocking though, the numbers bear that out. Sometimes you have a bad night.
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? Sorry.
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http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator (http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator)
:lol:
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currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Stepping back from the keyboard for a bit has let me consider somethings, just like last season, still don't think Fritz is right.
Hitting is atrocious. I really should find some way to review footage, but last night and all the other games I've been to let me believe that they are trained to hit to a location on the court way too much. When KU is able to position one player to dig a lot of hits with multiple rotations, the proof is there. Our hitters are dynamic and athletic enough to do something else, save Porubek who require a perfect set to get a decent hit and than it is going to the same spot almost every time.
Too many of last nights failures rest on Fritz's game plan. There is no way the number of tip overs while in hitting position wasn't game plan related. It caught KU a few times, but more often than not, they had the short play covered behind the block. Another game plan issue or game prep issue was the block. Absolutely horrid last night. They were constantly biting on the fake to one hitter only to have it go to a secondary hitter who was in better position. The block was CONSTANTLY off on timing. That level of failure at this level of play has to be game planning, thinking KU was playing fast to first hitters. Not only that there were so many opportuntiies for in game adjustment here. We had too many net calls from poor positioning and way too many KU rallies which were not stemmed by timeouts. I can think of one time we scored coming out of the time out, the rest of the time out were slight interruptions to KU's charge.
I've played and coached volleyball for 20 years. If I could #humblebrag for a second I have had personal coaching instruction from Dr. Carl McGown, Dr. Doug Beal, Dr. Marv Dunphy, Jim McLaughlin and Hugh McCutcheon. This is absurd. It's opinion so I can't say you're wrong but the flawed logic is completely off the reservation. It's VLVBIQ dressed up as something else. I explained this after your last meltdown, either you didn't read it or didn't understand it. You are completely barking up the wrong tree here.
:eek:
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:emawkid:
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http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator (http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator)
:lol:
Go and sign her up, Fritz!
:bracketmouse: (except a volleyball and NLI papers)
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http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator (http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator)
:lol:
Way back in my freshman year in college I dated a girl who played juco volleyball. When I was watching one of her games one of line judges tried to run away from an errant spike and when it pegged her in the side of the head she actually went sideways in the air. Was hilarious.
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Going back to Lincoln afuckingain to play UNI in the first round. Third time to Nubb in last 4 tourney trips. The selection committee blows.
Grats to KU hosting for the first time ever :tsc: potential second round matchup with the Wheat Shockers.
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At least we're in.
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Resident Vball experts. Is Fritz on the hot seat in any way?
I don't know, it just seems like the glass ceiling has been hit, albeit the Big 12 is a pretty decent Vball conference from my observation, but would it be Top 3?
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Resident Vball experts. Is Fritz on the hot seat in any way?
I don't know, it just seems like the glass ceiling has been hit, albeit the Big 12 is a pretty decent Vball conference from my observation, but would it be Top 3?
LOL no. If she has hit her ceiling its a pretty high ceiling. The NCAA tournament 9 out of 12 years is good for any sport, its great for a non-revenue sport at K-State. We've been top 25 in attendance most years, if not every single year she's been here. I don't possibly know how anyone would expect better and know you'd get it by replacing the coach.
Also the Big 12 for the last decade has been at worst the third best conference in any given year, some times first, some times second. This year we have 3 top 16 teams, including Kansas for the first time. Trading Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou, and A&M for TCU and WVU hurt, a lot. As Nebraska and A&M are power programs, both top 16 this season, and Mizzou and Colorado have had decent successes; TCU and WVU are horrendous programs.
Side note K-State has had unreal luck with the last three volleyball coaches, Jim Moore, Jim McLaughlin, and Suzie Fritz are all phenomenal coaches. Moore & McLaughlin have had great success after they left K-State for bigger budget programs.
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Okay.
So, keep expectations to NCAA tourney appearences. Don't expect conference championship trophies, and pretty much don't expect any national titles.
A nice little program. Fair enough.
Thks
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Going back to Lincoln afuckingain to play UNI in the first round. Third time to Nubb in last 4 tourney trips. The selection committee blows.
Grats to KU hosting for the first time ever :tsc: potential second round matchup with the Wheat Shockers.
Was WSU qualifying as an at-large a bit of a suprise? Seems like the local media made it seem as if winning the tournament was their only shot... Then again, I haven't followed the team as closely this year as I had previously.
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Okay.
So, keeping expectations to NCAA tourney appearences. Don't expect conference championship trophies and pretty much don't expect any national titles.
A nice little program. Fair enough.
Thks
In non revenue sports if you want national titles and conference championships you have to spend accordingly. Are you proposing that K-State utilize the resources that Nebraska, Florida, Texas, UT, etc. has? You look at DOE equity reports, certainly you are aware of the correlation of Olympic sports spending and success. There's no coach em up DITRs in womens sports, I cant recall even once in volleyball & WBB where the best talent didnt win.
If you fire coaches that make the tournament 9 out of 12 years, consistently be in the top 25 in attendance, win a conference title every decade or so, and have a top 20 program your're more likely to find someone who will fall on their face than someone who will duplicate that.
If you're unhappy with the direction of the program I'd suggest you pony up the cash to level the playing field and make this job more attractive to one of the other top 20 coaches, other than the one we have.
Fantastic troll though
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Going back to Lincoln afuckingain to play UNI in the first round. Third time to Nubb in last 4 tourney trips. The selection committee blows.
Grats to KU hosting for the first time ever :tsc: potential second round matchup with the Wheat Shockers.
Was WSU qualifying as an at-large a bit of a suprise? Seems like the local media made it seem as if winning the tournament was their only shot... Then again, I haven't followed the team as closely this year as I had previously.
By local media I'm going to assume you mean oscar Haertl. I give him credit for being the only local guy who even attempts to talk volleyball, although his interest is more about WSU homerism. That being said he doesn't anything about volleyball at all. WSU was on the bubble, but fairly strong on the right side. Their RPI was 40, thats pretty safe in volleyball because many conference don't have post season tournaments so there isn't bid stealing like in basketball. The selection committee uses RPI heavily in volleyball & are pretty open about it.
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Nebraska fans cheering their asses off for UNI, sounds like a home game for them. Very Huskero.
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http://www.huskers.com//mediaPortal/player.dbml?&&catid=0&DB_OEM_ID=100
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only got to watch the 3rd set. Same issues all season long.
13-17 service error rally killed
19-21 service error rally killed
20-23 terrible blocking working inside to out on an outside hitter coming far from the side. ball is only going out to the side.
20-24 hit right into block because our outside hitter only go to one spot on the court. Line was open by a full blocker width.
And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
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:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the season
And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
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:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the season
And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
Sorry I'm a bit distracted.
In your previous post you put a lot of effort in explaining to Dax the level of success Fritz has had. I'm not going to get into top tier WVB teams because the parity systems in any women's sports are so out of whack. I think to be a solid second tier team that collects a conference champ every 5 to 8 years or so requires less than you expect. I'm honestly not sure what other teams have that we don't to preface my points. We now have a dedicated facility, although its not glitzy does have some good attributes. I don't know what access the WVB team has to various training facilities. I'll assume they have the run of Ahearn? That seems like a fair enough foundation for a good second tier team. I would say there is a significant amount of coaching up players to make wins. I think your explanation of why KU is able to give us stiff competition and in this year dominate us, twice, shows this talking point is weak. Now I will grant that you can't coach em up into league titles yearly or compete with the PSUs of the WVB world consistently. Are we than talking about coach pay to retain or get the best coaches? Maybe you could speak to the pay scales here. I would suspect there is a significant gap between the first tier teams and the second tier teams. I don't know where Fritz's pay would fit into that hierarchy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. As you put it, a fine mercy killing for this season.
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K-State V-Ball has a nice dressing room and players lounge. There have been multiple upgrades to Ahearn: new seating, paint job, scoreboards, they got a new court a few years ago. Certainly a very fine facility for Volleyball has been created.
We should expect more than that embarrassment this afternoon.
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author=ednksu link=topic=15182.msg680807#msg680807 date=1354234343]
:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the season
And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
Sorry I'm a bit distracted.
In your previous post you put a lot of effort in explaining to Dax the level of success Fritz has had. I'm not going to get into top tier WVB teams because the parity systems in any women's sports are so out of whack. I think to be a solid second tier team that collects a conference champ every 5 to 8 years or so requires less than you expect. I'm honestly not sure what other teams have that we don't to preface my points. We now have a dedicated facility, although its not glitzy does have some good attributes. I don't know what access the WVB team has to various training facilities. I'll assume they have the run of Ahearn? That seems like a fair enough foundation for a good second tier team. I would say there is a significant amount of coaching up players to make wins. I think your explanation of why KU is able to give us stiff competition and in this year dominate us, twice, shows this talking point is weak. Now I will grant that you can't coach em up into league titles yearly or compete with the PSUs of the WVB world consistently. Are we than talking about coach pay to retain or get the best coaches? Maybe you could speak to the pay scales here. I would suspect there is a significant gap between the first tier teams and the second tier teams. I don't know where Fritz's pay would fit into that hierarchy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. As you put it, a fine mercy killing for this season.
K-State V-Ball has a nice dressing room and players lounge. There have been multiple upgrades to Ahearn: new seating, paint job, scoreboards, they got a new court a few years ago. Certainly a very fine facility for Volleyball has been created.
We should expect more than that embarrassment this afternoon.
I'll address dax' post first since it appears once again to be a troll, because frankly you are smarter than this. It is painfully obvious that you haven't seen any of the facilities you are touting. Did you seriously list a scoreboard that is more limited than some high school boards and some purple paint on red benches as improvements that should help the program? Stupid and you know it. That dressing room upgrade improved dressing rooms that were 50 years old. I've seen our facility and others. Instead of assuming that we have a "very fine facility" I'll tell you firsthand that we have an okay facility. Ahearn is good simply because of the fans and they are there because we've won consistently for 15 years.
Even if we had amazing facilities that has no correlation to on field results and you know that, absurd for you to attempt to.
Edn, there isn't a second tier program that wins the conference every 5-8 years, those are top programs. If you know of a second tier program in volleyball, let me know. I can't think of one in basketball either. We are firmly in the second tier. We have been a top 20 team for 15 years.
Money is important for not only head coaches salaries, but for assistant salaries and most importantly recruiting. Our budget is okay, we are absolutely out performing our peers in this regard.
I have no idea what you meant by your KU point. They beat us this year because they are better. I don't know what that has to do with the state of the program. Their coach, Ray Bechard, has been at KU for 15 years and this is literally the first season hes been better than KSU. You'll have to explain that analogy to me. Are you proposing we strive to their lack of long term success?
Like I said before, why would you not only fire but even consider firing someone who has consistently out performed her peers. She's fourth in the history of the conference in wins, the program is third in conference history in wins. How confident are you that someone could match that?
As far as today goes, I'd love to know what is going on behind the scenes, that completely turned this season around. We looked like final four contenders, now they are as bad as I've seen a K-State team ever. Suzie said earlier in the week that some players had some personal stuff, I know of one, but certainly it isn't causing this, I don't think. Anyway I'm glad this season is over so we can move on to spring ball & next season. Can't believe we're at this point.
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i think one of the personal problems suzie hinted at was that one hot blond setter has a massive crush on ol' clams and i just won't call her back b/c i'm too busy hangin w/ my buds playing xbox and stuff.
sorry boys
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#firesuzie
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author=ednksu link=topic=15182.msg680807#msg680807 date=1354234343]
:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the season
And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
Sorry I'm a bit distracted.
In your previous post you put a lot of effort in explaining to Dax the level of success Fritz has had. I'm not going to get into top tier WVB teams because the parity systems in any women's sports are so out of whack. I think to be a solid second tier team that collects a conference champ every 5 to 8 years or so requires less than you expect. I'm honestly not sure what other teams have that we don't to preface my points. We now have a dedicated facility, although its not glitzy does have some good attributes. I don't know what access the WVB team has to various training facilities. I'll assume they have the run of Ahearn? That seems like a fair enough foundation for a good second tier team. I would say there is a significant amount of coaching up players to make wins. I think your explanation of why KU is able to give us stiff competition and in this year dominate us, twice, shows this talking point is weak. Now I will grant that you can't coach em up into league titles yearly or compete with the PSUs of the WVB world consistently. Are we than talking about coach pay to retain or get the best coaches? Maybe you could speak to the pay scales here. I would suspect there is a significant gap between the first tier teams and the second tier teams. I don't know where Fritz's pay would fit into that hierarchy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. As you put it, a fine mercy killing for this season.
K-State V-Ball has a nice dressing room and players lounge. There have been multiple upgrades to Ahearn: new seating, paint job, scoreboards, they got a new court a few years ago. Certainly a very fine facility for Volleyball has been created.
We should expect more than that embarrassment this afternoon.
I'll address dax' post first since it appears once again to be a troll, because frankly you are smarter than this. It is painfully obvious that you haven't seen any of the facilities you are touting. Did you seriously list a scoreboard that is more limited than some high school boards and some purple paint on red benches as improvements that should help the program? Stupid and you know it. That dressing room upgrade improved dressing rooms that were 50 years old. I've seen our facility and others. Instead of assuming that we have a "very fine facility" I'll tell you firsthand that we have an okay facility. Ahearn is good simply because of the fans and they are there because we've won consistently for 15 years.
Even if we had amazing facilities that has no correlation to on field results and you know that, absurd for you to attempt to.
Edn, there isn't a second tier program that wins the conference every 5-8 years, those are top programs. If you know of a second tier program in volleyball, let me know. I can't think of one in basketball either. We are firmly in the second tier. We have been a top 20 team for 15 years.
Money is important for not only head coaches salaries, but for assistant salaries and most importantly recruiting. Our budget is okay, we are absolutely out performing our peers in this regard.
I have no idea what you meant by your KU point. They beat us this year because they are better. I don't know what that has to do with the state of the program. Their coach, Ray Bechard, has been at KU for 15 years and this is literally the first season hes been better than KSU. You'll have to explain that analogy to me. Are you proposing we strive to their lack of long term success?
Like I said before, why would you not only fire but even consider firing someone who has consistently out performed her peers. She's fourth in the history of the conference in wins, the program is third in conference history in wins. How confident are you that someone could match that?
As far as today goes, I'd love to know what is going on behind the scenes, that completely turned this season around. We looked like final four contenders, now they are as bad as I've seen a K-State team ever. Suzie said earlier in the week that some players had some personal stuff, I know of one, but certainly it isn't causing this, I don't think. Anyway I'm glad this season is over so we can move on to spring ball & next season. Can't believe we're at this point.
Excuses, excuses . . . just part of the K-State "we're just happy to be here" culture . . . and I've paid plenty of attention and I know that Ahearn is very near, or on par with a number of top volleyball facilities, and no, I don't count schools that play inside their basketball arena. Penn State has a decent volleyball gym, but it was built in 1928 and they share it with four other sports. It's not that much better than Ahearn on any level.
It's just good old K-State, never win anything significant and give it a good try and most K-Staters are perfectly happy.
Run out of the gym by not even receiving AVCA votes Northern Iowa is pathetic.
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Dax you don't watch volleyball, you know nothing about the K-State program or any other. You're speaking in generalities for a reason, I have no idea why I'm entertainining this stupid conversation. Like I've said many times you're only happy when you're miserableble. Just like the old ass muppets bitching from the balcony you should just keep bitching from a barstool from a Wild Wings hundreds of miles away.
If you ever make it back to Manhattan check out a match, enjoy that wonderful purple paint that recruits love. If you are lucky maybe you can walk on that carpet put in the locker room a few years ago, that carpet put us over the top. Its amazing how much you sound like beems talking out of your ass but too hard headed to shut the hell up.
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The bottom line is this, significant effort has been made over the years to keep K-State Volleyball up to speed with quality facilities. I knew Ahearn prior to volleyball getting all of those improvements backwards and forwards and back again, I spent day after day after day in there. I believe Volleyball now occupies either the former men's basketball offices or the former AD's offices, which used to be the nicest offices the K-State athletics had, and I believe they've just recently been remodeled. Offices that at the time K-State volleyball moved into them, other Volleyball programs would have killed for . . . many of them occupying offices akin to broom closets. The volleyball dressing room and players lounge is multi-fold times nicer than the old K-State Mens basketball dressing room. (again, we're talking about Volleyball here, a sport that LOSES money). Offices, players lounges, dressing rooms, new courts, pay raises, increased budgets etc. etc. etc.
Drummed out of the NCAA tourney in the 1st round by Northern Iowa.
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The KU analogy was more like this (I'll be brief for my time, not the quality of info)
~You said you can't coach em up in volleyball
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
~Ergo in some instances you can coach them up or at least have talent play beyond their means
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there is no excuse for getting run out of the gym by UNI. that's an embarassment. suzie fritz = deb patterson.
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sucks that we lost.
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~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible forever
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The bottom line is this, significant effort has been made over the years to keep K-State Volleyball up to speed with quality facilities. I knew Ahearn prior to volleyball getting all of those improvements backwards and forwards and back again, I spent day after day after day in there. I believe Volleyball now occupies either the former men's basketball offices or the former AD's offices, which used to be the nicest offices the K-State athletics had, and I believe they've just recently been remodeled. Offices that at the time K-State volleyball moved into them, other Volleyball programs would have killed for . . . many of them occupying offices akin to broom closets. The volleyball dressing room and players lounge is multi-fold times nicer than the old K-State Mens basketball dressing room. (again, we're talking about Volleyball here, a sport that LOSES money). Offices, players lounges, dressing rooms, new courts, pay raises, increased budgets etc. etc. etc.
Drummed out of the NCAA tourney in the 1st round by Northern Iowa.
You're confusing what I bolded with the rest of your post. The things you mentioned don't "keep K-State Volleyball up to speed with quality facilities." They updated the previous horrendous facilities but in no way are they comparable with what one would call quality facilities. I've said this three times yet you continue to ignore it. I've seen other college facilities, you haven't even seen ours. I also enjoy that you continue to ignore the question that I've asked you about the risk of finding someone who will duplicate being the 4th winningest coach (2nd active) in the history of the conference.
there is no excuse for getting run out of the gym by UNI. that's an embarassment.
Anyone say otherwise? What did you guys think of UNI before the match started, just wondering?
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there is no excuse for getting run out of the gym by UNI. that's an embarassment.
Anyone say otherwise? What did you guys think of UNI before the match started, just wondering?
hey ralph tresvant, lay off the sensitivity. you mind if i state my opinion?
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Don't follow women's volleyball - like most olympic sports - but am happy when KSU is good.
That said, are we arguing that KSU doesn't have the talent to be relevant in the postseason? i.e. we need better facilities to recruit better talent?
I thought Fritz always had good talent, and was consistently taking teams to the NCAAs...
So, forgive me, but why the eff are facilities even relevant to this discussion?
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~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible forever
I was being specific to KU
They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
Maybe someone with free time can look up assistant coach salaries and see how they fall in line between K-State, top tier, and lesser schools.
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8695613/vcu-rams-volleyball-coach-james-finley-says-was-fired-gay
SIGN HIM UP!
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~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible forever
I was being specific to KU
They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
Maybe someone with free time can look up assistant coach salaries and see how they fall in line between K-State, top tier, and lesser schools.
My actual sentence and what you interpreted as are worlds apart.
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Don't follow women's volleyball - like most olympic sports - but am happy when KSU is good.
That said, are we arguing that KSU doesn't have the talent to be relevant in the postseason? i.e. we need better facilities to recruit better talent?
I thought Fritz always had good talent, and was consistently taking teams to the NCAAs...
So, forgive me, but why the eff are facilities even relevant to this discussion?
They aren't relevant at all, Dax wanted to bitch so he used some press releases he's read as a basis for an argument that states we have good facilities so we should beat everybody. It's really rough ridin' stupid but the old man on the barstool is only happy when miserable and will go to any lengths to convince others to join him, up to & including talking out of his ass.
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~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible forever
I was being specific to KU
They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
Maybe someone with free time can look up assistant coach salaries and see how they fall in line between K-State, top tier, and lesser schools.
My actual sentence and what you interpreted as are worlds apart.
so your direct quote with a direct parallel to what I said are world apart.....
wait what?
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MIR, with the same old crap, I walked through Ahearn (for like the 1000th time) just this last summer right before school started at K-State. It was completely set up for Volleyball, I walked down through the underneath sections, and then back up through Ahearn Gym and the office areas.
K-State Volleyball moved into the former AD/Men's Basketball Suite, then it was remodeled . . . when they did that, the volleyball program at ku (for example) was stuck in some little broom closet office in the bowels of Allen Fieldhouse, until the last remodeling they did when it moved.
Oregon State Baseball (for example) won 2 National Titles before they even got the brand spanking new baseball stadium, before that, FHSU had a nicer stadium than Oregon State.
K-State is never going to have the nicest facilities across the board, but they're certainly nice enough.
Just once it would be nice for a K-State athletic team to step up and go the distance.
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so your direct quote with a direct parallel to what I said are world apart.....
wait what?
Yeah. If you think this
"They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent."
Means this
You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
You have a logic problem I can't help you.
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MIR, with the same old crap, I walked through Ahearn (for like the 1000th time) just this last summer right before school started at K-State. It was completely set up for Volleyball, I walked down through the underneath sections, and then back up through Ahearn Gym and the office areas.
K-State Volleyball moved into the former AD/Men's Basketball Suite, then it was remodeled . . . when they did that, the volleyball program at ku (for example) was stuck in some little broom closet office in the bowels of Allen Fieldhouse, until the last remodeling they did when it moved.
Oregon State Baseball (for example) won 2 National Titles before they even got the brand spanking new baseball stadium, before that, FHSU had a nicer stadium than Oregon State.
K-State is never going to have the nicest facilities across the board, but they're certainly nice enough.
Just once it would be nice for a K-State athletic team to step up and go the distance.
So your point to this is that we should win more games because our locker room has been upgraded from the 50's style concrete cave? Great to know Dax, makes perfect sense. Recruiting budgets and coaching salaries don't mean anything, the key to success is carpet.
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Other schools that have much smaller budgets than K-State have stepped up and gone the distance in NCAA athletics MIR . . . nice job in skipping over my point about that.
Hell Stony Brook (For Example) was in the CWS, and until recently their baseball field consisted of a fence, field, scoreboard, and a couple of dugouts. In FY 2012 K-State had $41 million dollars more athletic revenue then they did, in fact, K-State's private giving alone could have financed their entire athletic department, with $7 million left over.
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Other schools that have much smaller budgets than K-State have stepped up and gone the distance in NCAA athletics MIR . . . nice job in skipping over my point about that.
Hell Stony Brook (For Example) was in the CWS, and until recently their baseball field consisted of a fence, field, scoreboard, and a couple of dugouts. In FY 2012 K-State had $41 million dollars more athletic revenue then they did, in fact, K-State's private giving alone could have financed their entire athletic department, with $7 million left over.
We're talking volleyball here Dax, give me a volleyball team that fits your weird scenario. Take a couple of days, you'll certainly need it to research as it is certain that you haven't seen 5 matches in your life.
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Long Beach State . . . $14 million dollar athletic budget. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna remind they're in California. Look man, I'm not saying Volleyball Final Four every year.
I also take into account that K-State is approaching the $60 million dollar mark in annual athletic budget, and only funds the minimum amount of sports to be a D1 eligible school. One would think that we could actually make a run at a national title in something.
Northern Iowa . . . $14 million dollar athletic budget and they have to finance football.
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K-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
Anyone else dying to see what this is about?
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K-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
Anyone else dying to see what this is about?
My initial guess is either a facilities upgrade or she's been named as an assistant to the national team.
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K-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
Anyone else dying to see what this is about?
My initial guess is either a facilities upgrade or she's been named as an assistant to the national team.
I hope it is upgrades. I think they along with indoor track deserve a better practice facility and locker rooms.
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I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
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I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
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I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I like the Horsej Pavilion or whatever its called at KU.
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I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I like the Horsej Pavilion or whatever its called at KU.
I like it too, it probably isn't hot as balls on August and early September during games either.
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At one time, and it may still hold true today. LSnyder wanted a new practice complex across the street from Vanier with an indoor practice facility, and bridge across Kimball. If that ever comes to pass, move indoor track to the old football indoor facility, and then renovate Ahearn and put the Volleyball court running the way the basketball court used to run.
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That would be somewhat better but I think Ahearn is just way too big and cavernous for volleyball no matter the configuration. The only benefit to Ahearn are the practice courts that they use that they used to share with basketball.
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Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
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Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
I believe so.
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Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Brandenberry is a warehouse, it wouldn't be a good volleyball arena.
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Maybe the presser will announce they're putting a dome over Memorial Stadium for the v-ballers and others? (No sources on this, good or bad. Project renderings rumored to be under lock and key somewhere off campus).
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They are going to announce that Whitlock is back.
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Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Brandenberry is a warehouse, it wouldn't be a good volleyball arena.
I'm aware of that and not at all why I asked.
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Maybe the presser will announce they're putting a dome over Memorial Stadium for the v-ballers and others? (No sources on this, good or bad. Project renderings rumored to be under lock and key somewhere off campus).
ugh, would be absolutely and completely awful
do
not
want
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Going to Russia this summer to represent the US in the World University Games!
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I was kinda right, weird for that to be a press conference in the legends room though.
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Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Brandenberry is a warehouse, it wouldn't be a good volleyball arena.
I'm aware of that and not at all why I asked.
Okay. It is also used for some club sports practices in the winter and kids baseball camps.
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A Legends Room Press Conference?
I am glad they're getting the opportunity but really??
Hate this time of the year.
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are they going to get mushed by the competition they will face?
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are they going to get mushed by the competition they will face?
Likely since pros can play in Universiade, and the Euros will likely have a lot of pros. I'm guessing Russia is going to be tough. Also worth noting that the USA hasn't sent a women's volleyball team to this since 1997 and this happens every two years.
The biggest benefit of this is that we are allowed to have unlimited practices from the time that spring semester ends until the end of the event. That's nearly two months of practice after spring ball, its a huge advantage. One thing that might work against us when it comes to practice is that the FISU limits the volleyball roster to 12 as opposed to the 15 that are allowed by the NCAA. In addition to this Lilla Porubek and Natali Jones can't play because they are citizens of other countries, Jones has dual citizenship but still not legal to play. I hope that doesn't limit their ability to practice though because, especially in the case of Porubek, they are vital to next seasons success. It will also suck if they can't travel with the team.
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I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I like the Horsej Pavilion or whatever its called at KU.
I haven't been in it, but it looked like a middle school multi use gym on TV. Is there a reason why you like it? I assume you've been in it.
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Its not cavernous and it gets incredibly loud, also not old and dusty.
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Yeah time for a coaching change. Getting worse every year.
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Yeah, time for a change in VB
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i don't understand how we lost that one dude who was like championship caliber. now we got this lady who gets swept at home by the lowly hawks. it's completely embarrassing and should never happen.
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Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
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Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
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Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
By "not returning" do you mean her eligibility is exhausted? If so, is a medical a possibility?
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Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
kstatesports.com just copy and pasted an article that big12sports.com had featured. My guess is that article was originally written a couple of weeks ago.
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Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
By "not returning" do you mean her eligibility is exhausted? If so, is a medical a possibility?
Yes she's a senior, no she won't get a medical redshirt if she's out for the year, she's played 13 matches this season.
Also yes kstatesports reran a big12sports article from a few weeks ago, they put a disclaimer saying so at the beginning of the article. Seems weird that they wouldn't add that she's out for the year with an injury to that addendum.
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what would be a good match to go to this year(preferable one we don't get killed in)
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Is it typical of V-ball teams to have their entire season determined by the availability of one player? Is it like losing a stud starting QB, or a stud 7-0 Center?
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what would be a good match to go to this year(preferable one we don't get killed in)
I'd suggest either the Tech or Baylor matches. Both are typically very bad, especially Tech.
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what would be a good match to go to this year(preferable one we don't get killed in)
I'd suggest either the Tech or Baylor matches. Both are typically very bad, especially Tech.
Thanks townie :Pirate Bones:
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Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
By "not returning" do you mean her eligibility is exhausted? If so, is a medical a possibility?
Yes she's a senior, no she won't get a medical redshirt if she's out for the year, she's played 13 matches this season.
Also yes kstatesports reran a big12sports article from a few weeks ago, they put a disclaimer saying so at the beginning of the article. Seems weird that they wouldn't add that she's out for the year with an injury to that addendum.
sad to confirm that she's done for the year. talked about it with a stud volleycat last week.
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Yeah I heard it from her. She said it is what it is.
It is a big loss bc she was one of the few that can terminate. Pelger can most of the time but she plays all around.
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Is it typical of V-ball teams to have their entire season determined by the availability of one player? Is it like losing a stud starting QB, or a stud 7-0 Center?
When its one of your best players, very typical. Add to that the best player isn't 100%. Benches in volleyball aren't used like other sports. Its not at all unusual for a team to only play 8 and two of those won't play front row at all. There is no equivalence in any other team sport for the impact of one player that a volleyball player could have. Porubek is still at this point responsible for 15% of our total kills even though she's only played 13 of 17 matches. Pelger has been responsible for 23% of our kills.
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More bloodbaths and then a win over TTU. Clear divide between the have and have nots in the league at this point.
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Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
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Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
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Could go .500 in conference = possible NCAA berth. Suzie would take that
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I think they can and will make the tournament at 7-9
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Season tickets, here we come. Good thing they're still available. :)
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Season tickets, here we come. Good thing they're still available. :)
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Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
#16 was runner up.
#6 has this crazy eye thing going on when she goes to set the ball to someone behind her. :horrorsurprise: she looks like an exorcism is happening to her
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#17 is supposed to be the best player.
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#17 is supposed to be the best player.
apparently, stats lie.. but the ball don't
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So do the volleycats just not have it this year? 0-5 on road in big XII.
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Well that was a treat. Always nice to see Nebraska get swept in their house.
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also former K-State hero Jim Mclaughlin about to lead Washington into their "tilt"
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A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
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Yawn.....
Went from can't have nice things to having nothing but.
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why
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fantastic, but I hate the location, unless they're getting out of Ahearn :pray:
this also likely puts pressure on Suzie, I'd get my hopes up for Dawn Cady Sullivan but Currie :shakesfist: we'll hire the head coach at Northwestern or New Mexico.
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Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
looks like I was right, like usual
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Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
looks like I was right, like usual
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Grats to Katie, very cool. Kaitlynn's not eligible for the USA college volleyball team because she is no longer a college volleyball player.
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A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
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A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
i dont really understand this.
It's not like they have to share their space in ahearn with anyone. money should be spent on a locker room/office upgrade in ahearn.
is the the groundwork for currie debbing suzie?
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A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
i dont really understand this.
It's not like they have to share their space in ahearn with anyone. money should be spent on a locker room/office upgrade in ahearn.
is the the groundwork for currie debbing suzie?
They have to share Ahearn with Indoor track.
My facilities dream is to see a whole new football practice complex built with a new indoor facility for football and convert the old football indoor facility, to the indoor track.
Pretty mixed on a Volleyball arena out by Bram tho.
But I like the scenarios, all the non-revenue sports are getting more stuff, and this is likely going to build the case for their relative coaching staffs to perform better.
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A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
i was wondering the same thing. the coaches/players parking is located south of bramlage and then the indoor complex.
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The only time volleyball has to share with indoor track is when indoor track hosts a meet and that is in the volleyball off season, so there's no team activity then.
A practice facility at Bramlage is really stupid unless Currie plans on moving volleyball to Bramlage, which I suppose is possible after they move some of the AD offices in Bramlage to the Vanier 3.0. And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
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And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
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And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Rarely does a school actually hire the message board fapfest "want or expect" coach.
Moving Volleyball to Bramlage is now much more feasible with the BTF.
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And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Dawn is different, if she isn't the next coach at K-State she will be at Iowa State. She is a bonified head coaching candidate; not an analyst or a 27 year old 2nd assistant. Dawn isn't nearly as big of a risk.
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
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And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Rarely does a school actually hire the message board fapfest "want or expect" coach.
Moving Volleyball to Bramlage is now much more feasible with the BTF.
Volleyball games in Bramlage would be an absolutely terrible atmosphere. Ahearn is a pit, but it's also a huge home court advantage.
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Totally agree... The problem is there is nowhere to put it.
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
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And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Rarely does a school actually hire the message board fapfest "want or expect" coach.
Moving Volleyball to Bramlage is now much more feasible with the BTF.
Volleyball games in Bramlage would be an absolutely terrible atmosphere. Ahearn is a pit, but it's also a huge home court advantage.
We played ISU there a few years ago after a football game and it was brutal. ISU plays in Hilton and the atmosphere is okay, not terrible, just okay.
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
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Ahearn could be a very good V-Ball Venue, but that would require substantial renovation.
Move the v-ball court to where the b-ball court used to be and tighten and create a seating bowl around it. I'm thinking about 5-6,000 seats, and renovated entry lobbies etc. etc.
But we're talking $15 million easy.
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
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Ahearn could be a very good V-Ball Venue, but that would require substantial renovation.
Move the v-ball court to where the b-ball court used to be and tighten and create a seating bowl around it. I'm thinking about 5-6,000 seats, and renovated entry lobbies etc. etc.
But we're talking $15 million easy.
Would agree on a lot of that, but if they do think about actually moving vball out to Bramlage and adding the vball training facility, they should also renovate Bramlage (concourse, amenities, suites, etc.) with it and complete that all in one fell swoop (and would probably cost about the same $15 mill overall for the whole deal), would help 3 sports in 1 facility and potentially make any renovations of Ahearn if they make it into an indoor track and field only facility much more minor, but wouldn't know cost-benefit without some good numbers. If we're talking atmosphere though, they should keep it obviously in Ahearn, but if dollars and cents work out a move to the Bram might be worth it.
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
NCAA brings in their own courts now.
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
NCAA brings in their own courts now.
pft, even better
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Ahearn could be a very good V-Ball Venue, but that would require substantial renovation.
Move the v-ball court to where the b-ball court used to be and tighten and create a seating bowl around it. I'm thinking about 5-6,000 seats, and renovated entry lobbies etc. etc.
But we're talking $15 million easy.
How much for the sand?
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A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
WHOA DAX...WHOA! we don't want anyone to lose a job or anything there big fella.
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
yup
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rumblings of an smaller octogon on top of the octogon, similar to a wedding cake
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rumblings of an smaller octogon on top of the octogon, similar to a wedding cake
Lol, would take
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They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
NCAA brings in their own courts now.
For the regionals and the final four, not for the 1st & 2nd rounds
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No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
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No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
If they're going to spend that much, might as well add another $7 million or so and just build a 4 or 5K seat game venue.
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No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
If they're going to spend that much, might as well add another $7 million or so and just build a 4 or 5K seat game venue.
yup.
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No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
I hate everything about this, what a colossal waste of money
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TFS and Baseball should see that money before volleyball if its either/or scenario.
But IMO the goal should be a new arena or a reconfigured Ahearn for Volleyball only.
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TFS and Baseball should see that money before volleyball if its either/or scenario.
Wha? How do you figure?
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Because. We need to improve our baseball facilities. We've been a play or two away from the CWS.
This particularly needs to happen if they push the season back. Everybody will be balls out in baseball if that happens.
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Because. We need to improve our baseball facilities. We've been a play or two away from the CWS.
This particularly needs to happen if they push the season back. Everybody will be balls out in baseball if that happens.
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No we weren't. Even if we were the CWS amounts to the elite 8. The volleyball team has been to three sweet 16s. If this is about program accomplishments it isn't even close, not historically, not currently. Baseball has had more extensive improvements more recently and frankly baseball has the better facility although neither are anything close to elite. Baseball historically hasn't made K-State any more money than volleyball, they don't get to take that mantle because of one pissed away season.
The only real argument for improving baseball facilities before making sensible improvements to the volleyball program can't really go beyond "I like baseball better." That being said if the choice is building a volleyball practice facility at Bramlage or building a whole new baseball stadium, I'd pick the baseball stadium. I'd advocate K-State starting a bull fighting team and building a bull fighting arena before a volleyball practice facility at Bramlage. I'd advocate the athletic department building an American Girl doll store before a volleyball practice facility at Bramlage.
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Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
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Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Can you read? I addressed this, volleyball has historically made a lot more money than baseball at Kansas State. Also what the hell is title 14? Certainly you know that all sports other than men's basketball "sucks on the teet of football" right?
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Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
The Toint needs an overhaul? Why? As for the rest of this post, I refer you to MIR's response.
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I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
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Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Can you read? I addressed this, volleyball has historically made a lot more money than baseball at Kansas State. Also what the hell is title 14? Certainly you know that all sports other than men's basketball "sucks on the teet of football" right?
Title IX, whatever, shut up im tired.
And historically doesnt mean crap. Maybe back in the day, but this is now, Batcats are drawing a larger fanbase, which equals :kstategrad:
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I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
This is probably the long term goal. They'll probably convert Ahearn into some museum or some stuff for the Kinesiology Dept. Indoor track will have to bounce over to the Athletic Complex of Doom as well.
Personally I don't think they should move. The only way to get students to go to this stuff is to make it convenient (i.e. keeping it right on campus)
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I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
This is probably the long term goal. They'll probably convert Ahearn into some museum or some stuff for the Kinesiology Dept. Indoor track will have to bounce over to the Athletic Complex of Doom as well.
Personally I don't think they should move. The only way to get students to go to this stuff is to make it convenient (i.e. keeping it right on campus)
Moving indoor track from Ahearn would require a new building. Bramlage is entirely unsuitable for track, size-wise and otherwise.
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Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Can you read? I addressed this, volleyball has historically made a lot more money than baseball at Kansas State. Also what the hell is title 14? Certainly you know that all sports other than men's basketball "sucks on the teet of football" right?
Title IX, whatever, shut up im tired.
And historically doesnt mean crap. Maybe back in the day, but this is now, Batcats are drawing a larger fanbase, which equals :kstategrad:
Back in the day like last year and every year before it? How do you think the baseball revenue will look next year?
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I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
I would reluctantly be okay with this. I'm just so over Ahearn and I'm sure we aren't pumping any money into it to make it a viable long term home for K-State volleyball. It is frustrating though that other schools in this conference have turned their old basketball facilities into new volleyball facilities. Even moving the court to the center of Ahearn, moving the metal bleachers from BSFS, and installing a video board would do wonders. I still don't understand the need for a new practice facility when a renovation of the current practice gym at Ahearn is all that is needed.
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Baseball needs the improvements first. VB is perfectly fine in Ahearn. Get indoor track out of there, and reconfigure the arena area to put the court where the basketball court used to be and make some improvements. They'll have tons of space to set up about as many practice V-Ball courts as they could possibly want. In fact, they'll have so much room they could put in at least one all sand court for training.
The only drawback might be having to work with the academic side like the Department of Kinesiology which occupies Ahearn.
Baseball can evolve with more suites, more seats etc. etc.
It will be absurd to spend $8 to $12 million on volleyball unless substantial improvements are made to TFS and the baseball facilities at the same time if not before. Particularly if baseball is pushed back a month, improving the competitive stature of nearly every D1 school substantially.
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Baseball needs the improvements first. VB is perfectly fine in Ahearn. Get indoor track out of there, and reconfigure the arena area to put the court where the basketball court used to be and make some improvements. They'll have tons of space to set up about as many practice V-Ball courts as they could possibly want. In fact, they'll have so much room they could put in at least one all sand court for training.
The only drawback might be having to work with the academic side like the Department of Kinesiology which occupies Ahearn.
Baseball can evolve with more suites, more seats etc. etc.
It will be absurd to spend $8 to $12 million on volleyball unless substantial improvements are made to TFS and the baseball facilities at the same time if not before. Particularly if baseball is pushed back a month, improving the competitive stature of nearly every D1 school substantially.
What would cost more for a quality structure, volleyball or a new indoor track facility?
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Baseball needs the improvements first. VB is perfectly fine in Ahearn. Get indoor track out of there, and reconfigure the arena area to put the court where the basketball court used to be and make some improvements. They'll have tons of space to set up about as many practice V-Ball courts as they could possibly want. In fact, they'll have so much room they could put in at least one all sand court for training.
The only drawback might be having to work with the academic side like the Department of Kinesiology which occupies Ahearn.
Baseball can evolve with more suites, more seats etc. etc.
It will be absurd to spend $8 to $12 million on volleyball unless substantial improvements are made to TFS and the baseball facilities at the same time if not before. Particularly if baseball is pushed back a month, improving the competitive stature of nearly every D1 school substantially.
Sand play for elite indoor volleyball players is a nono. It's a completely different game and sand lends itself to lots of injuries.
I do agree that baseball changing its schedule changes this conversation because it increases baseball's earning potential.
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So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthisisnebraska.com%2Fimages%2Fvb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg&hash=66681ef56756df658bc427b0460fc3681bc9fddf)
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So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthisisnebraska.com%2Fimages%2Fvb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg&hash=66681ef56756df658bc427b0460fc3681bc9fddf)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
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So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthisisnebraska.com%2Fimages%2Fvb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg&hash=66681ef56756df658bc427b0460fc3681bc9fddf)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
I didn't think you weren't aware, I say a video, I think on the Big 10 network, where they had a whole segment on working out on the sand.
Maybe it was just for show.
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So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthisisnebraska.com%2Fimages%2Fvb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg&hash=66681ef56756df658bc427b0460fc3681bc9fddf)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Nebraska started a NCAA Sand volleyball team last year. All of the players on the sand volleyball roster are also on the volleyball roster.
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So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthisisnebraska.com%2Fimages%2Fvb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg&hash=66681ef56756df658bc427b0460fc3681bc9fddf)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Nebraska started a NCAA Sand volleyball team last year.
interesting first post
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So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthisisnebraska.com%2Fimages%2Fvb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg&hash=66681ef56756df658bc427b0460fc3681bc9fddf)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Nebraska started a NCAA Sand volleyball team last year.
interesting first post
Who are you? If you are really a Nebraska fan we won't be mean to you if you aren't an idiot, so feel free to change your name. If you're a K-State insider give us more info, specifically about this half cocked practice gym at Bramlage idea.
It is interesting that there is no info about NCAA Sand Volleyball anywhere on a site directly sanctioned by the NCAA but AVCA has some info.
http://www.avca.org/sand/poll/
http://www.avca.org/includes/media/docs/ALL-IN-ONE-DI-Sand-VB-Handbook-Leg-Regs-Interps-11%2813%29docx.pdf
it's an eclectic group of schools currently playing, a few good programs, two elites (Washington & Stanford), and a lot of small schools. No UT or Penn State.
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SEC been doing the sand volleyball thing for a while:
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20080213/NEWS/229984505 (http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20080213/NEWS/229984505)
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pulled out a nice road win.
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This team is pretty fun
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Surprisingly so
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Two Big 12 road wins in a row for the first time since Baylor and TCU in October 2012. Team may be in the top 25 on Monday.
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AVCA :shakesfist:
The Big 12 has been screwed in that poll all season.
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http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/100814aab.html
could have had them in 3, but the second wind didn't come full sail until the 4th.
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Now ranked #22 :kstatriot:
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Trivia question from the future: How many Championships did you celebrate from October 2014 through April 2015 if you were a Kansas City and Kansas State Sports fan?
Answer: elventybillion
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For those haven't been following; we are the second best team the conference, not sure we'll finish there or not, we'll see. We will make the tournament, but even though we're the second best team in the conference our chance of hosting is borderline. The Big 12 rpi is just okay, we will need to finish 14-4 or better in conference to host in the NCAA imo. If we really make a run there is a potential of playing the entire tournament in the Big 12 footprint as there is a regional here in Ames and the final four is in OKC.
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I joined an intramural volleyball team and our first game was tonight. Won in straight sets and had an absolute blast! I'm a Volleycat :excited:
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Trivia question from the future: How many Championships did you celebrate from October 2014 through April 2015 if you were a Kansas City and Kansas State Sports fan?
Answer: elventybillion
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F14%2F10%2F20%2Fdf91ac4e1e92d99ed88e691684ddc1d4.jpg&hash=620c017eee4e3c6850d2cdd068d9be54abe2ce60)
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For those haven't been following; we are the second best team the conference, not sure we'll finish there or not, we'll see. We will make the tournament, but even though we're the second best team in the conference our chance of hosting is borderline. The Big 12 rpi is just okay, we will need to finish 14-4 or better in conference to host in the NCAA imo. If we really make a run there is a potential of playing the entire tournament in the Big 12 footprint as there is a regional here in Ames and the final four is in OKC.
17 rpi. I know rpi isn't a great measure of a team in bball, and I don't know if it is of similar or greater worth in vball, but apparently one of the coaches seems to think that finishing in the top 16 rpi gives a good chance of hosting.
KSU played sub-par vs Texas. Much of the credit due to the Longhorns, but even in the second set, which K-State had a good shot at, they really didn't play too terribly well. Bodes well for them, imo.
They are obviously good on the block, and they can play pretty decent transition if need be, but they have a tendency to let things snow-ball when the opposition is in serve. It's mostly a reception problem, but things have improved. They've come a long way since letting a pud Mo. State team and a shorthanded Baylor squad go on long runs at home. Texas got to them, but that's Texas.
Wednesday night will paint a pretty descriptive picture of the team imo. OU is good offensively, and will try to force long rallies defensively. If K-State can regain offensive efficiency and keep rallies short it would be a great sign for them.
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great 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
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great 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Sure looked like their arms where too far over the net
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For those haven't been following; we are the second best team the conference, not sure we'll finish there or not, we'll see. We will make the tournament, but even though we're the second best team in the conference our chance of hosting is borderline. The Big 12 rpi is just okay, we will need to finish 14-4 or better in conference to host in the NCAA imo. If we really make a run there is a potential of playing the entire tournament in the Big 12 footprint as there is a regional here in Ames and the final four is in OKC.
17 rpi. I know rpi isn't a great measure of a team in bball, and I don't know if it is of similar or greater worth in vball, but apparently one of the coaches seems to think that finishing in the top 16 rpi gives a good chance of hosting.
KSU played sub-par vs Texas. Much of the credit due to the Longhorns, but even in the second set, which K-State had a good shot at, they really didn't play too terribly well. Bodes well for them, imo.
They are obviously good on the block, and they can play pretty decent transition if need be, but they have a tendency to let things snow-ball when the opposition is in serve. It's mostly a reception problem, but things have improved. They've come a long way since letting a pud Mo. State team and a shorthanded Baylor squad go on long runs at home. Texas got to them, but that's Texas.
Wednesday night will paint a pretty descriptive picture of the team imo. OU is good offensively, and will try to force long rallies defensively. If K-State can regain offensive efficiency and keep rallies short it would be a great sign for them.
Great win tonight, we are firmly the 2nd best team the conference.
The RPI carries a lot more weight in volleyball than basketball, a lot more. The committee doesn't have the luxury of watching nearly as many volleyball matches so the eye test doesn't happen in volleyball, they rely on concrete data.
Like I said a conference record of 12-4 should be good enough to earn the opportunity to host.
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great 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Sure looked like their arms where too far over the net
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great 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Sure looked like their arms where too far over the net
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Well it's just unfair to the other team. Nothing to do but complain
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Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
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Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
:sdeek:
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Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply shit shut them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
:sdeek:
:lol:
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Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
nicname. i'm really kind of pissed off right now. ok, i'm not kind of pissed off, i'm furious. this post deserves validation from MiR but he's treating you like a little bitch, bro.
you guys have some sort of squabble that we don't know about, son?
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Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
nicname. i'm really kind of pissed off right now. ok, i'm not kind of pissed off, i'm furious. this post deserves validation from MiR but he's treating you like a little bitch, bro.
you guys have some sort of squabble that we don't know about, son?
I dunno, probably.
jk
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Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
OU swept UT tonight
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Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
OU swept UT tonight
Holy crap.
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Ho hum. Another road win. This one 3-2 at WVU. Fritz saving her job this season imo.
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Fritz on the Big 12 podcast.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=106106&SPID=13133&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=209687721&DB_OEM_ID=10410
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hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
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hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
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hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
alright, will report this back to the friend that asked :thumbs:
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hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
alright, will report this back to the friend that asked :thumbs:
I would suggest to just start showing up at practices, and then going to games and always sitting directly opposite of the bench and gazing into their eyes. Also screaming really loudly for those little volleyballs that they toss out before the matches. You'll have to move every set though because they switch benches all the time. Gotta keep that eye contact.
If that doesn't work I'd suggest randomly sending flowers to the VB offices and showing up at their apartments with a radio and a well-tuned singing voice.
Hope this helps your friend.
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hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
alright, will report this back to the friend that asked :thumbs:
I would suggest to just start showing up at practices, and then going to games and always sitting directly opposite of the bench and gazing into their eyes. Also screaming really loudly for those little volleyballs that they toss out before the matches. You'll have to move every set though because they switch benches all the time. Gotta keep that eye contact.
If that doesn't work I'd suggest randomly sending flowers to the VB offices and showing up at their apartments with a radio and a well-tuned singing voice.
Hope this helps your friend.
this is great advice, for my friend :thumbs:
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Ho hum. Another road win. This one 3-2 at WVU. Fritz saving her job this season imo.
Her job was fine, Olympic sports coaches don't get evaluated like football and basketball coaches and she isn't the perceived pain in the ass Deb was.
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Ho hum. Another road win. This one 3-2 at WVU. Fritz saving her job this season imo.
Her job was fine, Olympic sports coaches don't get evaluated like football and basketball coaches and she isn't the perceived pain in the ass Deb was.
damn dude I don't know. Its one thing to stay under the radar and keep sawing wood with your program. But when common K-State0 fans start to get pissed with your performance (for a lot, I think you've noted, losing to KU), I think the leash can be pretty freaking short.
Do you know off the top of your head if she has had any changes on her bench with assistants over the last 3ish seasons?
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I think all the assistants have been the same.
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They assistants haven't changed for quite a while, since Justin Ingram left to become a head coach at Arkansas State.
Currie is smart enough of an athletic director to evaluate coaches on their own merits. He isn't going to make personnel decisions based on people pissed on a message board because they can't make clever posts to other message board posters. Volleyball, baseball, and wbb coaches have three goals:
win
produce revenue
don't embarrass the school
The more of the second two you do the more latitude you get with the first. Suzy is the winningest coach in the history of the program, by far, and one of the best in the history of the conference. As far as the other stuff goes she has run a model program by any standard. Firing her and trying to find someone else to duplicate what she's done is a huge risk.
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Fritz is in the middle of a five year contract. Barring extraordinary circumstances Currie is not going to can an Olympic Sport coach in the middle of a 5 year contract, particularly one with a successful overall track record.
That said, I suspect Fritz is going to have to maintain this level through the remainder of the contract or she risks the "trajectory factor" (not gE'ing) in the Currie decision process (provided he's still around in 2016). I think that's pretty fair.
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They assistants haven't changed for quite a while, since Justin Ingram left to become a head coach at Arkansas State.
Currie is smart enough of an athletic director to evaluate coaches on their own merits. He isn't going to make personnel decisions based on people pissed on a message board because they can't make clever posts to other message board posters. Volleyball, baseball, and wbb coaches have three goals:
win
produce revenue
don't embarrass the school
The more of the second two you do the more latitude you get with the first. Suzy is the winningest coach in the history of the program, by far, and one of the best in the history of the conference. As far as the other stuff goes she has run a model program by any standard. Firing her and trying to find someone else to duplicate what she's done is a huge risk.
Yeah, the winning is back for the foreseeable future and the second two she's had locked in for a long time.
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Down 2-0 to Tech
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Knotted at 2! :emawkid:
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We're going to take this. Up 10-4 in set 5. Best game I've seen from Vogel so far.
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Final?
Gonna win 'em all!
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cats won in 5
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Dropped one at Iowa State tonight. They haven't won there since 2007, so not a huge surprise, especially with how they struggled against a similar team in Texas Tech.
A lot of unforced errors after ISU scrapped for longer rallies. Their at Texas on Friday after just a day's rest, so I would expect another loss there. K-State hasn't won a set against the Longhorns since 2011, so just taking a set from UT would be quite an accomplishment.
It will be interesting how the Rankings and RPI view this week.
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Couldn't put the ball down tonight, just like Saturday. As bad as ISU has been this year their only conference home loss is to UT. Thankfully OU lost to TCU tonight.
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Couldn't put the ball down tonight, just like Saturday. As bad as ISU has been this year their only conference home loss is to UT. Thankfully OU lost to TCU tonight.
Yuck, .217 is misleading. Putrid in the last two sets.
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Not a good look tonight.
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:Ugh:
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Got Utah 4:30pm in Lincoln. :ksu:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4GUBBoCYAAlzfW.png:large)
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Pretty pumped to get the championship weekend started with a win. Got the Miller Light open and ready to watch!!! :ksu:
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:beersmiley:
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bid
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#FIRESUZY #BURNITDOWN
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Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
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Not sure we can do better, but i feel we have been the exact same team for a decade now.
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that was embarrassing. what a waste of time
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Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Well that was totally crap :flush:
there's no evidence to back up this claim though
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Was this today? We lost?
Gonna win 'em all!
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Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Well that was totally crap :flush:
there's no evidence to back up this claim though
Past few years have felt like this to me. :dunno:
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Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Well that was totally crap :flush:
there's no evidence to back up this claim though
Past few years have felt like this to me. :dunno:
This year and last year for sure. Two seasons ago, when we beat Nebraska in the tourney we played well to finish the season. Not counting the years we didn't make the tournament when we were bad throughout these last two seasons are the only ones we limped to the finish after a strong start. Don't get me wrong though, these last two years have been awful finishes.
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standard kstate postseason finishes
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Tbh, last two seasons are by far the closest I've ever paid attention so that makes sense.
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I suspect Suz is probably still trending okay on the John Currie traject-O-meter of coaching survivable.
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This team should get better the next couple of years.
They lost an HM all conference middle blocker in Jones, who basically came out of nowhere to be good, a pretty good all-around player in Keating, quality depth out back in Madonia, and Taylor Johnson, who in my opinion just couldn't adjust to the increased offensive tempo enough to get on the court. Come to think of it that probably had a lot to do with Jones' success this season.
Brand, Kober, Reininger, Zumach, and maybe even Sassin are all more talented than anyone they lost, and all of them should be in Manhattan for at least the next two seasons. Zarda, Vogel, are decent, and are both young. Hell everyone is young.
They will have two seniors next season. Dallas Gardner, a walk-on and Mary Alice O'reilly a 6-3 opposite who I think is redshirting after being all conference in the WAC.
They are bringing in a couple of All-Americans from small Kansas towns, but I've got no clue how good they'll be. I've heard from multiple people that 2012 and 2013 were littered with team cancers, and have heard players allude to as much without naming names multiple times this season.
They should be trending up. I have no clue how high that might be, but I think Fritz and her staff are rejuvenated. I thought she might be done after last season. She seemed run down. I don't get that sense anymore.
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Our Longhorns just got royally screwed and I'm not happy about it :curse:
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Lost a few players in the offseason looking at the roster: Zarda, O'Reilly, Eaken
Gained a 6'3 MB/OH Hungarian. Suzie needs to bring in a DS I think since Zarda left.
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??????, Brand, Kober
Sassin, Reininger, Zumach
Should be pretty sick.
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:sdeek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKDnRnpDYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAjkDt-JSTo
Appreciate most of the Massey stuff though.
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I hope to get to a few matches this season.
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Those were pretty good. I can't imagine most 18-20 year olds put on camera to do that they were asked to do and make it entertaining. That Massey thing is unreal, she was 8 years old his senior year.
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2nd vid was fantastic
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I hope to get to a few matches this season.
This is a good idea.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xou8S4SkSaI
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2. They’re Fun
All it takes is a few minutes with this year’s Wildcat volleyball team and they’ll have you smiling and laughing. From the youngest to the oldest players, the group is made up of a plethora of unique, giddy and fun-loving personalities.
Need proof? You can click here to watch the 'Alyssa & Kylee Show,' put together by K-StateHD.TV – I can guarantee it’ll put a smile on your face.
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man you have so much freedom of spirit when making a video that you are pretty sure nobody is going to watch
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These videos are great.
Also I'm excited to listen to us kick some Florida A&M dick in tomorrow, and watch us kick some Hurricane dick in on Saturday :excited:
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I'm too lazy to look. How did the lady cats do today in volleyball?
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Never mind. I just saw they swept today. Great start.
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And the ladies rally back from 2-1 and won in five sets. Play Miami later this afternoon.
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Well unfortunately no Hurricane dick was kicked.
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I hope to get to a few matches this season.
I usually make at least one game a year
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I hope to get to a few matches this season.
I usually make at least one game a year
Maybe we will be at a game at the same time. Wouldn't know it, though.
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Sounds like a great time for a gE encounter. :D
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Maybe so.
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Zumach didn't play against Miami, and the girl from Chanute, Macy Flowers was on crutches. She was 2nd best middle blocker behind Reininger.
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i saw a cats volleyball cat player in kc this weekend, just a observation post. cats you guys
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Ladies in a great match with Cal right now.
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Ladies in a great match with Cal right now.
Score?
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Cal won the first set 26-24. Cats won the second set 25-21. Just starting he third set.
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Lady Cats win third set 25-20.
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:Woot:
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Hoping they'll finish it off in the fourth set.
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Cats beat Cal in the fourth set 25-18. Great match win.
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Ladies up 1 set on UNLV.
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Another set to the lady cats. 25-17. Set three can give another sweep.
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:ksu:
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The ladies looked very good, that was the shittiest big crowd in sports history. I know there were a lot of people in there that had never been to a match before, it's okay to make noise, Christ.
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I see the ladies beat VCU 3-1 tonight. Great start to the season.
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:emawkid:
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The ladies are ahead 2 sets to nothing. Going to win another early tournament. They were behind 22-16 in the second set and scored 9 in a row to win that one. Starting third set now.
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:thumbs:
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Another sweep. Ladies must be decent. Looking forward to watching them.
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They're rolling, they haven't beaten anyone good, but we've looked/sounded very soild.
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:emawkid:
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It's hard to tell how good they are but at times they seem to dominate
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Canary, good year to buy a couple of season tix that may be available or not?
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I don't know, bones. I haven't bought because my evenings are sometimes taken with work events, and I travel with others on Saturdays for football games. I think they will be good this year and even better next year; no seniors.
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Wisconsin, Arkansas, Creighton, Kansas coming up . . .
We'll know a lot in a week or so.
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Wisconsin, Arkansas, Creighton, Kansas coming up . . .
We'll know a lot in a week or so.
Sorta, kinda. She'll still play with the lineup quite a bit in the next few matches. She never settles the 8 player rotation until conference play starts.
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I don't know, bones. I haven't bought because my evenings are sometimes taken with work events, and I travel with others on Saturdays for football games. I think they will be good this year and even better next year; no seniors.
Thanks, Canary. I think we may go ahead and buy them.
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I don't know, bones. I haven't bought because my evenings are sometimes taken with work events, and I travel with others on Saturdays for football games. I think they will be good this year and even better next year; no seniors.
Thanks, Canary. I think we may go ahead and buy them.
Great. I still hope to get to some games.
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Blew a 2-0 lead against Creighton today. :blindfold:
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Wisconsin, Arkansas, Creighton, Kansas coming up . . .
We'll know a lot in a week or so.
Sorta, kinda. She'll still play with the lineup quite a bit in the next few matches. She never settles the 8 player rotation until conference play starts.
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Hate to see that they lost all three this weekend. Tough competition, but I thought they'd be able to get at least one of those.
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Been short two players: Zumach and Flowers
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Like didn't realize that. Zumach missing makes a huge difference.
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Kylee is done for the year with an ACL tear, she will pursue a medical redshirt. Steffy isn't here so I won't have to explain how this works.
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:)
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lol mir she isn't redshirting. i went to one of the games at bramlage and she definitely wasn't wearing a red shirt...
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Oh I thought she just twisted her knee
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4 straight losses. #mo
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4 straight losses. #mo
I didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
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Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
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I don't know. I'll see what I can find out tomorrow.
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4 straight losses. #mo
I didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
Hawk volleyball is definitely better than Hawk football and probably draws more actual attendees considering KU's football attendance figures (tix sold, not who shows up). #JayhawkProud
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Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
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4 straight losses. #mo
I didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
Hawk volleyball is definitely better than Hawk football and probably draws more actual attendees considering KU's football attendance figures (tix sold, not who shows up). #JayhawkProud
I thought we played fairly well tonight. This is perhaps the best team that KU has ever had, they're pretty good.
Also Kylee Zumach had surgery earlier today, Wednesday.
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Fire Suzie
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Fire Suzie
i know this is a prank post but i'll respond-
until our AD shows a real commitment to our volleyball program, we will not find the consistency that we all want. fritz has done a commendable job when considering what she's been given to work with.
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Currie wants to build them a practice facility near Bramlage, and they should just move to Bramlage for games. I know MIR gets all whack-a-doodle about that, but the only other choice is to build a new indoor track facility and turn Ahearn completely over to volleyball, or build volleyball their own arena. To do that right will take a lot of money and sorry, they just haven't been that good to justify that kind of expenditure. I watched some of LSU Arkansas last night from LSU and looked like LSU does some things to cozy up their basketball arena for volleyball matches. Florida State V-ball plays in some crackerbox gym. KU is good and Horejesi (sp?) is just some tin shed high school gym.
I'd love to see a total sports complex with a new indoor track venue and a new volleyball venue, but that's going to take up the beloved parking which some people have some sort of sick infatuation with. To do something like that is going to cost tens of millions of dollars.
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i don't know the specifics about code issues, etc but it seems like if they would just commit to ahearn they could make it a great venue/practice areas/locker rooms. it's like we're doing the minimum we can to support the program without looking like we ignore it.
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Currie wants to build them a practice facility near Bramlage, and they should just move to Bramlage for games. I know MIR gets all whack-a-doodle about that, but the only other choice is to build a new indoor track facility and turn Ahearn completely over to volleyball, or build volleyball their own arena. To do that right will take a lot of money and sorry, they just haven't been that good to justify that kind of expenditure. I watched some of LSU Arkansas last night from LSU and looked like LSU does some things to cozy up their basketball arena for volleyball matches. Florida State V-ball plays in some crackerbox gym. KU is good and Horejesi (sp?) is just some tin shed high school gym.
I'd love to see a total sports complex with a new indoor track venue and a new volleyball venue, but that's going to take up the beloved parking which some people have some sort of sick infatuation with. To do something like that is going to cost tens of millions of dollars.
I would love for us to play in a facility like Horejsi. It lacks character but it is dedicated and it is a loud bandbox when they have KSU or UT in there, they don't care otherwise. Building a cozy 5000 seat facility at the sports complex would be best. It would obviously be limestone and have some character instead of being a metal outbuilding like Horejsi is. Until that happens we need to stay at Ahearn. I can't stand Ahearn but it is waaaaayyyy better than playing in Bramlage.
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Nope, no tin shed cracker boxes.
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Ladies taking care of Baylor easily this evening.
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Yes, they won. :)
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Ahearn is louder than the shed.
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On K-States instagram it said the next home match is October 10 in Bramlage. Why?
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Ahearn is louder than the shed.
Nope
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On K-States instagram it said the next home match is October 10 in Bramlage. Why?
That's what they're doing with wildcat weekends (football and volleyball at home) this season, and I hate it. They did it earlier in the season against UNLV and the crowd was big but very quiet in what was a fun match. I'm assuming they're doing this to potentially test a permanent move, gross if so.
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Ahearn is louder than the shed.
Nope
I imagine we've both been there. Must be difference of opinion.
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Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
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Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
I will be there. Also have been at Ahearn for VB games. Will report on the comparo.
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Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
I will be there. Also have been at Ahearn for VB games. Will report on the comparo.
No need, I've already told you. I've seen every kstate volleyball match ever played in Bramlage and they've all sucked despite playing against good opponents more often than most and winning all of them.
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Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
I will be there. Also have been at Ahearn for VB games. Will report on the comparo.
No need, I've already told you. I've seen every kstate volleyball match ever played in Bramlage and they've all sucked despite playing against good opponents more often than most and winning all of them.
OK. Frankly, I want to see the VB games remain at Ahearn. Give that historic building a reason to exist, and I also like the VB atmosphere there. But willing to see what the turnout is at Bramlage, although I expect it may be the same as far as attendance goes, but not the same as far as acoustics and atmosphere goes. I favor Ahearn. Have a good night.
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bones, i look forward to your comparo
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I was joking, you can take off your cape and hang it back up for another day. lol
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Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
She played Saturday at TCU.
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Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
She played Saturday at TCU.
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Yeah saw that, really late in the season to see her first action, the season is half way over. Didn't see the match but her numbers looked good. I will see the ladies twice this week, looking forward to it. I'll give you a full report on Macy on Wednesday night.
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This team seems to be underachieving. Hope they can turn it around.
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Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
She played Saturday at TCU.
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Yeah saw that, really late in the season to see her first action, the season is half way over. Didn't see the match but her numbers looked good. I will see the ladies twice this week, looking forward to it. I'll give you a full report on Macy on Wednesday night.
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This team seems to be underachieving. Hope they can turn it around.
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I think they are underachieving too. I thought they would be better than this.
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They're not underachieving at all. They've won all the matches they should have and lost the ones they should have. Punting the TCU match was the most disappointing result but they aren't terrible, their win agains us is the best win from the group of others which is everyone outside of UT, KU, and WVU.
As for Macy, not much to say. She didn't appear to be terribly involved but that can happen with middle hitters, especially if the team isn't passing well. The coaches seem to believe in her, they coach her very hard on the court which is expected being that she's a freshman and she nearly missed the first two months of the season.
I'm looking forward to read bones' summary of crap volleyball in Bramlage. Speaking of volleyball in basketball arenas, Iowa State had 46 people in the student section for our match, literally 46, four of them standing. I took a picture but dumbass Tapatalk wouldn't load it.
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Get a victory tonight at OU on FSN. OU is better than their record..
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OU is better than their record..
We'll agree to disagree, they seem waaaayyyy down this yeat.
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3-0 go cats
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Swept by Texas. No big surprise.
Talked to a AAA source on Sunday who told me two ladies currently playing at other B12 schools, ranked programs. Both were 98% in the bag for KState and Susie absolutely blew it.
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Swept the Techies today. :)
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Looking ahead at their schedule there's 4 winnable matches that they should win.
@WVU
TCU at home
Tech at home
OU at home
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Matches in Bramlage are so dull that bones didn't even want to do his comparison of Bramlage and Ahearn.
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We won tonight.
BTW, The Bram (or whatever it should be called) is no place for WVB. And FWIW, it is no longer the OOD, but you all knew that.
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I still haven't made a game yet this season. I hope so still, and hope it is in Ahearn.
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Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.
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Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.
It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
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Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.
It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
The KU match next Wednesday is huge.
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Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.
It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
The KU match next Wednesday is huge.
Yeah, for seeding. We're in, easily right now somewhere around a 7-10 seed. ISU is 21st in the RPI, our next two matches are against the RPI #2 and #5 teams. We aren't beating KU but that's fine, they're a final four contender. We've had a very good season with a very young team.
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:frown: Team have the flu at Baylor?
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selection show is on now. espnu
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:Woohoo:
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vs Wichita St in Lincoln. Would take on Nub in 2nd round.
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Looks like a fun opening two rounds.
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We should be able to handle Wichita State. I've bitched about this a million times but the NCAA's insistence on putting these teams in the same pod over and over is complete bullshit.
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We should be able to handle Wichita State. I've bitched about this a million times but the NCAA's insistence on putting these teams in the same pod over and over is complete bullshit.
KState vs Wichita State with the winner facing Nebraska can almost be penciled in every year at this point
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Good to be in! :emawkid:
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It the WSU coach still that weird socially awkward guy that wears Tommy Bahama shirts everywhere?
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LOL, yes.
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LFG
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I was hoping to watch. Will just have to listen
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I was hoping to watch. Will just have to listen
Supposed to be free on ncaa.com and the ncaa app, not sure why it isn't working
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I think the cats lost the first set, but are leading 20-15 in the second.
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Cats win second set 25-17. Keep it going!
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Doesn't look good for the ladies.
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accomplishing nothing in the postseason. it's the k-state way! #family
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Disappointing
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no seniors tho, wait till next year, etc :blah:
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That's not a good loss and those last two sets were poop. We've also played this "we're young" game before only to have key defections.
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Possible difference makers playing at other Big 12 schools, originally 98% set on going to Kstate. Until Suz pulled her "I need a decision right now" routine, totally turning recruit and parents off.
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What does she have to do to get fired?
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apparently we don't lose any seniors for next year? so i would think suzie has no exbruces.
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What does she have to do to get fired?
her seat is colder than ice
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What does she have to do to get fired?
Same as any other Olympics sports coach; embarrass the school or be a habitual loser. She hasn't done either and she won't do either.
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article48840450.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article48840450.html)
Kansas State athletic director John Currie says the school is working on a contract extension for volleyball coach Suzie Fritz.
Fritz has led the Wildcats’ volleyball team since 2001, winning 295 games and making 11 NCAA Tournaments. K-State is coming off a 17-win campaign in which it posted a winning conference record without a single senior on the roster.
The season ended with a loss to Wichita State in the NCAA Tournament.
Currie said he is proud of the work Fritz has put in and is eager to see what she can do next season, and beyond, with a young team returning.
“She has done a tremendous job,” Currie said. “We look forward to her continued success with the K-State volleyball team.”
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article48840450.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article48840450.html)
Kansas State athletic director John Currie says the school is working on a contract extension for volleyball coach Suzie Fritz.
Fritz has led the Wildcats’ volleyball team since 2001, winning 295 games and making 11 NCAA Tournaments. K-State is coming off a 17-win campaign in which it posted a winning conference record without a single senior on the roster.
The season ended with a loss to Wichita State in the NCAA Tournament.
Currie said he is proud of the work Fritz has put in and is eager to see what she can do next season, and beyond, with a young team returning.
“She has done a tremendous job,” Currie said. “We look forward to her continued success with the K-State volleyball team.”
We shall see.
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We shall see what?
UT and KU are in the elite 8 tonight.
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Bones' posts rarely have substance.
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What does she have to do to get fired?
Same as any other Olympics sports coach; embarrass the school or be a habitual loser. She hasn't done either and she won't do either.
Can't we get same mediocre results for much less $?
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What does she have to do to get fired?
Same as any other Olympics sports coach; embarrass the school or be a habitual loser. She hasn't done either and she won't do either.
Can't we get same mediocre results for much less $?
I mean if you consider winning 20 matches every year and making the tournament every 4 out of 5 years mediocre all while being the like 5th or 6th highest paid coach in the conference then go ahead and fire her and see if you can find someone else who is essentially volleyball Frank Martin.
Incidentally she is 2nd all time in Big 12 wins and has more tournament appearances in 15 seasons than every other school does all-time excluding Texas. She has more Big 12 wins than Ray Bechard and he's been in the conference 5 seasons longer and she has more NCAA appearances and he's only been a head coach since she was 13 years old.
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I've always been under the impression Volleyball is one of our more successful non revenue sports :dunno:
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Suz is the perfect spoke in Johnny Currie's wheel of a world class student athlete experience while never really winning anything.
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Ray is headed off to the Final Four.
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That was a fun match even though I hate the crap out of KU volleyball. Grats to Bechard on achieving his first elite 8 and final four in a 31 year career.
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I've always been under the impression Volleyball is one of our more successful non revenue sports :dunno:
Easily the most successful without argument.
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He's been at KU 18.
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MIR should I have any reason to think K-State vball will go to the E8 or F4 next year? If no then I don't think Suzy > Ray. It's a what have you done for me lately business.
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MIR should I have any reason to think K-State vball will go to the E8 or F4 next year? If no then I don't think Suzy > Ray. It's a what have you done for me lately business.
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WTF? That's the stupidest crap I've ever seen in my life and you're better than that.
First of all outside of Texas, Penn State, USC, Florida, and Nebraska no program should be expecting the elite eight or final four. Kansas was not ranked in the preseason polls and were picked to finish fourth in the conference. They had a great year, but let's not get stupid. Did you miss my note about Suzie having more conference wins than Bechard despite the fact he's been in the conference four more years? Goddamn scott, grats, of all the stupid crap I've read on here your post wins first place. So I have to think you're in favor of TCU firing Sweaty Gary to hire Gene Chizik. Jesus Christ, never ever ever ever be someone who hires and fires for a living. WOW.
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eff Peter Vermes and his stupid ass making the playoffs every year, get me Caleb Porter, he can really get things done :excited:
Scott, I'm gonna rough ridin' fight you next March, assface :curse:
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:D :D :D
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This is some quality go emaw dot com
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What MIR is saying, don't set your expectations above the general malaise and mediocrity to slightly above mediocrity that is K-State athletics.
This is why John Currie hammers home family, and world class student athlete experience, everything to avoid talking about actually winning at a high level.
Next up que MIR rant about money and stuff . . . well, prove that your worth making the investment in.
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I love it when Dax puts non revenue sports on trial. No one is safe from scrutiny.
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its not like they can change anything either, just amazing :love:
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I love it when Dax puts non revenue sports on trial. No one is safe from scrutiny.
Family, World Class Student Athlete Experience. It's the entire athletic department, not just one sport.
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I'm surprised Dax hasn't ruined the Chiefs thread today. 7 wins in a row must have him flustered :frown:
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The Chiefs have beaten bad to mediocre teams, except Denver. They were a dropped pass and bad goal line play away from OT or possibly a loss to San Diego, a bad team. But this thread isn't about the Chiefs.
This is about Kstate and John Currie's love of mediocrity. For the 3rd straight year they'll like be zero conference titles. This year is a minor bowl game for football, a half a cup of coffee for volleyball in the NCAA tourney, the NIT and WNIT in all probability, and bottom dwelling efforts from the rest of the men's sports. Possibly something interesting from women's track.
Yay!
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K-State.has ZERO national titles in ANY damn sport, if think we've all earned the right to be pissed at any/all of the sports teams if we we choose so. I'm definitely irritated they (ku) made it to the final 4, especially since we have won the conference in volleyball before and haven't made it that far in the NCAA.
The lack of something elite happening for any of the teams is beyond frustrating...
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:ROFL:
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I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
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I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
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I'd like to hear more on this MIR...
It seems like we (k-state) canot get out of our own way.
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It seems like we (k-state) canot get out of our own way.
Dude, what are you talking about with this get out of our own way stuff? We've been to the NCAA tournament 16 out of the last 20 years. Since the Big 12 started play in 1996, there have been 14 schools that have competed in the conference, only 3 of them have won a conference championship, THREE; Nebraska, Texas, and K-State. That's less than extremely top heavy men's and women's basketball. I have no idea what more you guys want. Tournament success for a program like K-State in volleyball is even more tenuous than in basketball. The NCAA tournament is played on home courts and the same big schools are going to get those advantages. We don't have teams that can go to Nebraska or to Washington and beat those teams, we just don't. What we do have is one of the best, most consistent 25 programs in the country that makes the tournament every year, finishes in the top 25 of attendance, produces a ridiculous amount of academic all conference and all americans, doesn't embarrass the school, and pulls in a decent amount of revenue.
You guys stop being so owned by KU that one good tournament run by them has you completely freaked out and incapable of using logic and common sense. I'll put it in a college basketball way so maybe you guys can understand it better, would you rather have Gonzaga's basketball program or George Mason's? KU won two matches in San Diego last weekend, good for them, really. But winning those two matches is no reason for you clowns to crap all over the success we've had. Get a grip.
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I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Yeah anyone who has followed VB knows why he left, this isn't insidery info. But you are 100% totally wrong about trajectory. His trajectory was not a mid level conference contender with a once in a decade conf title run. It's great that you bring up UW because it totally undercuts your point that K-State is on the same path now as what UW went on under McLauglin or even what McLaughlin was doing at K-State. His success was trending up, the team was looking up, and Fritz benefited from his players. If we take your position that UW was the worst, consider this, as you know, he has taken them to 3 PACs, 4 Final Fours, and a title (added bonus of 15 AAs and a NPOY in 2013). Instead we've got....1 conference title and a crap load of, to barrow Dax's phrase, cups of coffee at the dance with little else. So "steady" is one thing to call the program. Mired in average to slightly above average play is more accurate. Mclaughlin was building this program into something better and Fritz has taken it to a leveled-off trajectory that is nice for many, but disappointing for some. But this is the problem with K-State in many respects. We've been on the right path and had some unfortunate circumstances take us off course from really competing for titles (thinking WVB and MBB, hell 90s to 00s FB). But just because we have a "nice" program doesn't mean we should re-evaluate what the coach is actually doing to break through to that next level. We've been on the cusp of that in many sports, many times, and never put all the pieces together. At some point you have to break off a coach who is nice, and comforting to tucks, and push in a new direction, or you will always be the nice team, with nice facilities, and a nice record with little else.
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Why did he leave?
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Why did he leave?
Brent Venables unspeakable sin.
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I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Yeah anyone who has followed VB knows why he left, this isn't insidery info. But you are 100% totally wrong about trajectory. His trajectory was not a mid level conference contender with a once in a decade conf title run. It's great that you bring up UW because it totally undercuts your point that K-State is on the same path now as what UW went on under McLauglin or even what McLaughlin was doing at K-State. His success was trending up, the team was looking up, and Fritz benefited from his players. If we take your position that UW was the worst, consider this, as you know, he has taken them to 3 PACs, 4 Final Fours, and a title (added bonus of 15 AAs and a NPOY in 2013). Instead we've got....1 conference title and a crap load of, to barrow Dax's phrase, cups of coffee at the dance with little else. So "steady" is one thing to call the program. Mired in average to slightly above average play is more accurate. Mclaughlin was building this program into something better and Fritz has taken it to a leveled-off trajectory that is nice for many, but disappointing for some. But this is the problem with K-State in many respects. We've been on the right path and had some unfortunate circumstances take us off course from really competing for titles (thinking WVB and MBB, hell 90s to 00s FB). But just because we have a "nice" program doesn't mean we should re-evaluate what the coach is actually doing to break through to that next level. We've been on the cusp of that in many sports, many times, and never put all the pieces together. At some point you have to break off a coach who is nice, and comforting to tucks, and push in a new direction, or you will always be the nice team, with nice facilities, and a nice record with little else.
Okay so you used all of those words to say that you don't know why he left. He left because even though Washington was a dead ass program at the time he felt like that program had a better chance of success. They had a bigger budget, better geography, and did not have Nebraska and Texas to butt heads with. In simpler language he felt he had plateaued and Washington offered a better chance for loftier successes.
I never said or hinted that K-State was on the same path as Washington, I'm not sure what you read that lead you to think that. And no Suzie's greatest successes did not come with McLaughlin's players. She was the lead assistant on his teams and of the five best players on that team I can say for a fact that three of them; Lauren Goering, Vali Hejjas, and Gabby Guerre were recruited by Suzie when she was the assistant recruiting them or the head coach. I'm fairly sure that Jeff Grove recruited Laura Downey as well. I have no idea about Lisa Martin although I'd bet she was also recruited by Suzie given that her and Lauren was from the same area.
I don't give a crap about how nice Suzie is or isn't, I don't owe her a damn thing. What I do care about is that she has a direct tie to all but one of our tournament appearances in the history of the school and the only conference championship. When you're running an olympic sport you don't fire one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport in hopes that you may find someone that can possibly win a few more matches in December, that's patently dumb, so dumb in fact that I am not going to talk about this anymore. Suzie has as much of a chance of getting fired as I do in being her replacement. I've wasted too much time on this stupid crap.
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I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Yeah anyone who has followed VB knows why he left, this isn't insidery info. But you are 100% totally wrong about trajectory. His trajectory was not a mid level conference contender with a once in a decade conf title run. It's great that you bring up UW because it totally undercuts your point that K-State is on the same path now as what UW went on under McLauglin or even what McLaughlin was doing at K-State. His success was trending up, the team was looking up, and Fritz benefited from his players. If we take your position that UW was the worst, consider this, as you know, he has taken them to 3 PACs, 4 Final Fours, and a title (added bonus of 15 AAs and a NPOY in 2013). Instead we've got....1 conference title and a crap load of, to barrow Dax's phrase, cups of coffee at the dance with little else. So "steady" is one thing to call the program. Mired in average to slightly above average play is more accurate. Mclaughlin was building this program into something better and Fritz has taken it to a leveled-off trajectory that is nice for many, but disappointing for some. But this is the problem with K-State in many respects. We've been on the right path and had some unfortunate circumstances take us off course from really competing for titles (thinking WVB and MBB, hell 90s to 00s FB). But just because we have a "nice" program doesn't mean we should re-evaluate what the coach is actually doing to break through to that next level. We've been on the cusp of that in many sports, many times, and never put all the pieces together. At some point you have to break off a coach who is nice, and comforting to tucks, and push in a new direction, or you will always be the nice team, with nice facilities, and a nice record with little else.
Okay so you used all of those words to say that you don't know why he left. He left because even though Washington was a dead ass program at the time he felt like that program had a better chance of success. They had a bigger budget, better geography, and did not have Nebraska and Texas to butt heads with. In simpler language he felt he had plateaued and Washington offered a better chance for loftier successes.
I never said or hinted that K-State was on the same path as Washington, I'm not sure what you read that lead you to think that. And no Suzie's greatest successes did not come with McLaughlin's players. She was the lead assistant on his teams and of the five best players on that team I can say for a fact that three of them; Lauren Goering, Vali Hejjas, and Gabby Guerre were recruited by Suzie when she was the assistant recruiting them or the head coach. I'm fairly sure that Jeff Grove recruited Laura Downey as well. I have no idea about Lisa Martin although I'd bet she was also recruited by Suzie given that her and Lauren was from the same area.
I don't give a crap about how nice Suzie is or isn't, I don't owe her a damn thing. What I do care about is that she has a direct tie to all but one of our tournament appearances in the history of the school and the only conference championship. When you're running an olympic sport you don't fire one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport in hopes that you may find someone that can possibly win a few more matches in December, that's patently dumb, so dumb in fact that I am not going to talk about this anymore. Suzie has as much of a chance of getting fired as I do in being her replacement. I've wasted too much time on this stupid crap.
This is a lot of words for a nothing post.
First you can say what you want about the plateau of K-State and why he left. That doesn't square with your claims about results and trajectory. Second half the players you mentioned were recruited under his watch. It's great they kept Suzie to keep continuity. No one is arguing against that. But 2003 had a lot of his players on it, so the point is fairly moot. You can't credit Frank's run without at least mentioning Huggins, and by your logic you dismiss that connection.
Third, I have no idea what you're talking about her being nice and owing anyone anything. I mean you jumped the shark here. The point about it being a "nice" program (go back and read how I used nice) is that it's just that, nice. Nothing to get too excited about, and a passing afterthought when the program is down (like it has been for 5 years). I'm sorry, I don't think bottom half is acceptable for K-State in this conference. If you do, fine. Getting a ticket to the NCAAs and getting beat the eff down (3-1, 3-0 at rough ridin' home, 3-0) is acceptable for you, and a lot of other fans, fine. It's not acceptable for me. For sure we can't change out Olympic coaches on a whim. And you must give them time to develop their players, their system, their recruiting strategies. Here is what we know. Undeniably we are in a downward trend with her at the helm. There have been some years where you have legit excuses (what was it, 2012 or 13 where half the team was dead from injuries for the year?) How much of a track record do you need before you make a move? It sucks when you have to put a coach out that has meant a lot to a program, but it is done often, and across all sports when there is a downward trend and little being done to correct it. You have a hard on for Suzie and that's fine. But you're letting your personal bias effect how you see this program. Would you keep a coach in an easier league (Nubs is gone after all) who is winning less in conference, going to the dance less, and when they do make it are getting destroyed (sometimes on the home court) over nearly a decade trend? Now no one is saying she is on the hot seat, but that doesn't change whether or not she should be feeling some heat.
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I didn't know why the dude left, I had just assumed it was a Venables or Kruger type of a situation. It sucks seeing ku in the final 4 and us losing in the first round against wichita state. Maybe we will be stacked in the future, I dunno, just hate not getting over the bump.
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What MIR is saying is just embrace the slightly above average and don't expect a breakthrough.
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We had an intern at work this summer that plays for KU. I didn't realize how badass they were last year. Crappy thing for her is that she is from Lincoln. Anyway, will probably go watch her play a couple times this year.
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I actually posted that thinking MIR would respond. He did not. Le sad.
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you might get one out of emo on monday
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I actually posted that thinking MIR would respond. He did not. Le sad.
Sorry, yeah they were a juggernaut last year, you could have made the argument that they and UT were the two best teams in the country. We can talk later about the lunacy of the NCAA continuing to allow Nebraska to play home matches throughout the NCAA tournament, including the final four. They'll be good again though not as good but that certainly can't be expected.
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Hopefully some coaches of the other top programs are raising some hell about this Cornhole path to championships.
In terms of KState, I'm hoping for a raising trajectory.
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Very good win tonight against Arizona, dominant. Tomorrow comes the real test, two top 6 teams in one day. Sidenote, UT will beat the crap out of Nebraska tomorrow given Nebraska won't have the luxury of playing a home match.
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Nice start, will be interesting to see how they do today.
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I am sure I will be asleep before the match starts tonight. MIR, please keep us updated.
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Holy crap guys :excited: Hawaii was missing their best player but they're still returning everyone from a team who went to the elite eight last year and they're at home.
Good thing we didn't fire Suzie because KU was better than us last year, huh guys?
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If they beat Wisky holy crap guise they should be a top 5 team themselves (based on rankings) :sdeek:
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Wisconsin definitely won that match with a strong team. I am looking forward to the volleyball season. They have yet another Big 10 opponent this coming Friday in Manhattan, I believe.
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A good tournament showing this weekend. Wish they could have beaten Michigan Friday night. The Georgia Tech match was a marathon tonight. Nice to win a five set match against a good team.
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Yesterday was a big day for volleyball. 800 wins in the program (now 801) and 300 for Fritz. Hopeful they can compete in the conference this year.
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Anyone headed to Ahearn for the match with Iowa State this evening?
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sunday's is showing up on my channel guide on FCS Pacific and Prime Ticket
no coverage for tonight
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Pretty annoyed that the soccer and volleyball matches are at the same time on Sunday. I'm going to guess K-State asked that the volleyball match be moved to Saturday bit either UT or the Big 12 said no. That being said It's also unfortunate the soccer match couldn't start at noon or the volleyball match start at 3.
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Pretty annoyed that the soccer and volleyball matches are at the same time on Sunday. I'm going to guess K-State asked that the volleyball match be moved to Saturday bit either UT or the Big 12 said no. That being said It's also unfortunate the soccer match couldn't start at noon or the volleyball match start at 3.
Never mind, would not have guessed the schedule would be wrong on the official K-State app, but here we are
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:Wha:
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Swept at Baylor, next up Texas who just beat KU 3-1.
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why are none of our games on television anymore?
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why are none of our games on television anymore?
Lame stream media
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Fritz, in her 16th year as K-State’s head coach, likens Reininger to Tigger off of “Winnie the Pooh.” Not only is she cheerful and outgoing, she’s also 100 percent comfortable in her skin.
“Her optimism, her positivity, she just exudes those qualities. She’s our Tigger,” Fritz said. “At first you wonder if that’s real, and then she does it every day for four years. Her ability to make people feel good about being alive and her ability to bring joy to all phases of our lives is pretty unique and pretty special.”
http://www.kstatesports.com/news/se-reininger-finds-balance-in-life-on-volleyball-court-at-k-state-10-05-2016
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oscar is infecting our other non-revenue coaches now.
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This can only mean yet another cup of coffee in the NCAA tourney.
oscar is like Super Ebola
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oscar is infecting our other non-revenue coaches now.
Suzie's a winner tho
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Come on cats. Just turned it on. Haven't seen my girl Maggie yet.
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Nm just saw her for a serve
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woof they're sucking tonight
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Looks like the ladies got a win at OU tonight.
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Indeed! What a wreck that was.
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Both Reininger and Zumach hurt?
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Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
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What a stupid rough ridin' question, seriously.
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Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Been a few years since I played a lot indoor/court volleyball (I prefer sand/beach) I can tell you this: # Times I've been hurt playing sand volleyball: 2 and they both involved jamming the crap out of my hand so bad I couldn't write for like a week on a spike. # Times I've been hurt playing court? Like every rough ridin' time, I can't tell you how many sprains, ankle twists, knee bruises/elbow bruises I've had from diving or landing from a spike. If you actually play aggressive defense, you will absolutely hurt yourself. Hate giving up points to the other team just becuase you dont want to layout.
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Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Been a few years since I played a lot indoor/court volleyball (I prefer sand/beach) I can tell you this: # Times I've been hurt playing sand volleyball: 2 and they both involved jamming the crap out of my hand so bad I couldn't write for like a week on a spike. # Times I've been hurt playing court? Like every rough ridin' time, I can't tell you how many sprains, ankle twists, knee bruises/elbow bruises I've had from diving or landing from a spike. If you actually play aggressive defense, you will absolutely hurt yourself. Hate giving up points to the other team just becuase you dont want to layout.
Thanks for actually answering the question.
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Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Been a few years since I played a lot indoor/court volleyball (I prefer sand/beach) I can tell you this: # Times I've been hurt playing sand volleyball: 2 and they both involved jamming the crap out of my hand so bad I couldn't write for like a week on a spike. # Times I've been hurt playing court? Like every rough ridin' time, I can't tell you how many sprains, ankle twists, knee bruises/elbow bruises I've had from diving or landing from a spike. If you actually play aggressive defense, you will absolutely hurt yourself. Hate giving up points to the other team just becuase you dont want to layout.
Thanks for actually answering the question.
You were asking that question seriously? They're not rough ridin' sitting in chairs dude, it's a sport with explosive movements, you spend two hours using fast twitch muscle fibers. The injuries are exactly what they would be in basketball. Have you ever watched a volleyball game?
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Anyway..hope Reininger is back tomorrow vs Baylor. Sandbothe is an intriguing prospect though. Her sister is an All American at Ohio State.
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Anyway..hope Reininger is back tomorrow vs Baylor. Sandbothe is an intriguing prospect though. Her sister is an All American at Ohio State.
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I thought she hit well but she was getting abused, badly by that ISU middle on those quicks. It seemed like they went to it every time they were in system.
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Anyway..hope Reininger is back tomorrow vs Baylor. Sandbothe is an intriguing prospect though. Her sister is an All American at Ohio State.
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I thought she hit well but she was getting abused, badly by that ISU middle on those quicks. It seemed like they went to it every time they were in system.
That middle hitter was on. We never made an adjustment to that. Our block was slow to get there. I thought we seemed sluggish throughout the match, but with her it might just have been she was just too quick.
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Solid first set against Baylor. 25-22 Cats.
And then gave up seven points in a row to lose the second set. Damn ugly last few minutes.
Kicked some ass in set 3 winning 25-13.
And avenge the earlier season loss to BU by winning set four 25-20.
Some good volleyball tonight.
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saw that ku beat UT...now #1 in the conference :flush:
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KUVB is good because we are great. It's good to be great.
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saw that ku beat UT...now #1 in the conference :flush:
Tied for first. I trust that you'll be in Ahearn of Wednesday night for the biggest match the program has seen since Nebraska left the conference.
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Wish I could go! Would be fun to be at. Hopefully the students will show up rowdy.
Has anybody been to a soccer match yet? Was wondering how the facilities/atmosphere are.
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The facilities are bear bones, but temporary. There were lots of people at the soccer matches but the atmosphere was meh, you can't hear the student section, The Glue Factory, at all. As expected, a great majority of the crowd was comprised of elementary school girls and their parents.
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holy hell the "i played in high school and casually follow the epl so I'm gonna analyze every mistake out loud" crowd was seemingly by me every single match. eff those guys
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no tv in the kc market for tonight's game, thanks zenger gump papa john
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I'm hoping for a five- set match with the Cats winning it.
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it's on espn3 :driving:
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I'm hoping for a five- set match with the Cats winning it.
going into the 5th set :ksu: :pray: :crossfingers: :ksu:
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Ugly fifth set for the Cats.
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very, those service errors were brutal
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KSU's first serve in the last set was an error and the same player misses match point on her serve. As a coach that drove me nuts.
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very, those service errors were brutal
Sorry, we posted about the same time about the service errors. I hate that. Just gifted a great KU team points instead of making them earn them.
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ya i was happy to see that mid-4th set KU was leading in service errors and said to myself, "we can win this as long as we're not the ones shooting ourselves in the foot"
really could have used the confidence boost that beating #4 ku would have given us
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ksu has a good team, and could make some noise in the tournament, but they can't keep giving sets away.
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That's the give and take with serving as aggressively as we do, that was a very inopportune time for the serving to go away.
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They are going to make the tournament but I hope they aren't sent up to Nebraska again.
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They are going to make the tournament but I hope they aren't sent up to Nebraska again.
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I hope we are and I hope we kick their ass
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They are going to make the tournament but I hope they aren't sent up to Nebraska again.
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Not as likely this time. If we would have won last night we would have almost been a lock to host, that's pretty much done now.
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Ya unless they win at Texas
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3-1 win over ou on Wednesday
2 matches left, @ ut and home vs tech
currently 5th in conference behind flood aggie but they still have baylor, ku, and ou. baylor @ 4th still has ku, isu, and ou
Saturday's ut game is on the longhorn network fwiw
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3-1 win over ou on Wednesday
2 matches left, @ ut and home vs tech
currently 5th in conference behind flood aggie but they still have baylor, ku, and ou. baylor @ 4th still has ku, isu, and ou
Saturday's ut game is on the longhorn network fwiw
Unfortunately, because of the late season slide, we played ourselves right out of a decent seed. Now looking at another trip to Nebraska or Wisconsin or somewhere out west like Washington again. Mizzou looks like they may finish with a top 16 RPI, hopefully we get sent there.
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we lost to tcu but other than that, the ku and isu losses are understandable
i kind of feel like we're playing above where we should be this season, i don't know if that's correct or not. it'd be nice to close out w/ 2 wins and hope to bump up a spot in the b12 standings + hit the ncaa's with some momentum
but ya, would love to go to Columbia rather than Lincoln or Seattle, though this team has a lot of potential
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we lost to tcu but other than that, the ku and isu losses are understandable
i kind of feel like we're playing above where we should be this season, i don't know if that's correct or not. it'd be nice to close out w/ 2 wins and hope to bump up a spot in the b12 standings + hit the ncaa's with some momentum
but ya, would love to go to Columbia rather than Lincoln or Seattle, though this team has a lot of potential
I think the ISU and KU matches are bad losses. We are absolutely better than ISU and the KU match is one you have to finish if you are a good team, we gave it away. They are mired in the same issue the football team is, we can't seem to beat anyone better than us. As far as expectations, we were picked to finish sixth in the preseason but that frankly was ridiculously low. We returned all seven starters from last season's team, that team should have finished third but they had one of the worst collapses ever. Like I said we haven't beaten anyone, in conference anyway, better than us but we've punted a couple so to me we haven't met a reasonable expectation. We have had some injuries but :dunno:
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we lost to tcu but other than that, the ku and isu losses are understandable
i kind of feel like we're playing above where we should be this season, i don't know if that's correct or not. it'd be nice to close out w/ 2 wins and hope to bump up a spot in the b12 standings + hit the ncaa's with some momentum
but ya, would love to go to Columbia rather than Lincoln or Seattle, though this team has a lot of potential
I think the ISU and KU matches are bad losses. We are absolutely better than ISU and the KU match is one you have to finish if you are a good team, we gave it away. They are mired in the same issue the football team is, we can't seem to beat anyone better than us. As far as expectations, we were picked to finish sixth in the preseason but that frankly was ridiculously low. We returned all seven starters from last season's team, that team should have finished third but they had one of the worst collapses ever. Like I said we haven't beaten anyone, in conference anyway, better than us but we've punted a couple so to me we haven't met a reasonable expectation. We have had some injuries but :dunno:
I agree. We collapsed in at least two matches this year, and maybe a third. I didn't expect that with the starting lineup returning, so it makes it disappointing. I thought the would challenge for the conference title.
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Texas is more vulnerable than I thought they would be.
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Off to Nebraska again? Looking at past years they can't seem to get better than 9-7 in Big 12.
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MiR, no trolling, you still feel like Suzie is the woman for the job? Has the state of the program done what you thought it needed to do over the last handful of years?
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MiR, no trolling, you still feel like Suzie is the woman for the job? Has the state of the program done what you thought it needed to do over the last handful of years?
is there a comparison to be made between suz and deb? coach a middle of the pack team to a cup of coffee in the ncaa's every couple of years? i guess when you think about it, that same analogy could be used to describe any of our teams. a little bit above average/mediocre.
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Hadn't really thought about that direct comparison Clams, good to chew on.
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MiR, no trolling, you still feel like Suzie is the woman for the job? Has the state of the program done what you thought it needed to do over the last handful of years?
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I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
I don't give a crap about how nice Suzie is or isn't, I don't owe her a damn thing. What I do care about is that she has a direct tie to all but one of our tournament appearances in the history of the school and the only conference championship. When you're running an olympic sport you don't fire one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport in hopes that you may find someone that can possibly win a few more matches in December, that's patently dumb, so dumb in fact that I am not going to talk about this anymore. Suzie has as much of a chance of getting fired as I do in being her replacement. I've wasted too much time on this stupid crap.
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Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
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looks like isu is going to win 3-0 tonight vs OU, the cats finish @ 4th (t) in the b12 for the season
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Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
You can't be serious? Are you actually aware of the records of Suzie and Deb? There is no comparison, its actually laughable.
As far as what I think about Susie, there might be 5 Olympic sports team coaches in all of the NCAA that would feel any pressure at all with a record of 315-176 and 12 NCAA appearances in 16 years. Anyone who expects more than that from a non-revenue sport at a small budget school should be mercilessly mocked.
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We had an RPI of 19 going into the last weekend, Currie thinks we have a shot at hosting, which makes me think that he has had some contact with the NCAA about the possibility. They have to contact potential host schools about logistics before the bracket is complete. If we host it will be at Bramlage.
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Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
You can't be serious? Are you actually aware of the records of Suzie and Deb? There is no comparison, its actually laughable.
As far as what I think about Susie, there might be 5 Olympic sports team coaches in all of the NCAA that would feel any pressure at all with a record of 315-176 and 12 NCAA appearances in 16 years. Anyone who expects more than that from a non-revenue sport at a small budget school should be mercilessly mocked.
i'm serious.
deb @ k-state 350-226 (.608)
suzie @ k-state 295-168 (.637)
that comparison is laughable to you? how weird.
one was fired for lack of performance, one was extended through 2020
i don't care about their comparative records though when, in totality, their results are the same.
like i said, slightly above average teams who have no real shot at any post-season success. a cup of coffee in the tournament and a sense of accomplishment for the plane ride home. seems to be the equal measure of both coaches.
i get the feeling that she's done everything that she's going to do at k-state, hope i'm wrong
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Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
You can't be serious? Are you actually aware of the records of Suzie and Deb? There is no comparison, its actually laughable.
As far as what I think about Susie, there might be 5 Olympic sports team coaches in all of the NCAA that would feel any pressure at all with a record of 315-176 and 12 NCAA appearances in 16 years. Anyone who expects more than that from a non-revenue sport at a small budget school should be mercilessly mocked.
i'm serious.
deb @ k-state 350-226 (.608)
suzie @ k-state 295-168 (.637)
that comparison is laughable to you? how weird.
one was fired for lack of performance, one was extended through 2020
i don't care about their comparative records though when, in totality, their results are the same.
like i said, slightly above average teams who have no real shot at any post-season success. a cup of coffee in the tournament and a sense of accomplishment for the plane ride home. seems to be the equal measure of both coaches.
i get the feeling that she's done everything that she's going to do at k-state, hope i'm wrong
I was the biggest Deb defender in the world but come on man, you're being intentionally obtuse. First of all Deb had other issues at K-State but if you completely ignore all of that Deb made the tournament only 9 out of 18 years. Deb finished in last place TWICE. Deb's final two years she was 30-37 and 10-26 coupled with a crap ton of defections. Suzie did have a similar two year stretch to that but it was because she had a ton of injuries and not because she was carrying a roster well short of the scholarship limit because she couldn't keep players in the program. Also unfortunately for Deb, that didn't constitute her worst stretch as a head coach, so yeah when you are asking why a coach who's last two years had a record of 30-37 doesn't meet the same fate as another coach who went 37-18 in the same stretch, I'm gonna laugh, a lot.
Maybe she has done everything she's going to do at K-State, find me 10 volleyball coaches that has done more in 16 seasons. She has the same amount of Big 12 championships as Ray Bechard has and he was her college coach. I'd sign up for 16 more years of exactly this from a volleyball program. I'm not willing to sacrifice consistent good for a couple of more December wins.
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Hey MiR I appreciate your ardent support of our coaches. You and I might disagree on some of the non revenue sports but I know you are looking at it with a level head. It sounds like you don't think much has changed over the last few years with volleyball. I've gone on record with you before that I thought Deb should have been fired immediately when those allegations, and later exposé, came out back with our big 3. But besides that point we haven't been seeing the same kind of success as KU over the last few years. It's an interesting perspective that you bring where you look at totality and I'm probably looking at it more 'what have you done lately.' I just worry the lately has changed the expectation of this program to just being happy to make the NCAAs, ecstatic to host, and being in the top half, maybe top third of the conference. I think there are a lot of circumstances that are radically different than Deb and Susie. But it seems like Mittie has brought a lot of new energy to the wbb program. I'm just curious to see at what point you think we need a change just for changes sake, or if that is even a thing in your mind.
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Hey MiR I appreciate your ardent support of our coaches. You and I might disagree on some of the non revenue sports but I know you are looking at it with a level head. It sounds like you don't think much has changed over the last few years with volleyball. I've gone on record with you before that I thought Deb should have been fired immediately when those allegations, and later exposé, came out back with our big 3. But besides that point we haven't been seeing the same kind of success as KU over the last few years. It's an interesting perspective that you bring where you look at totality and I'm probably looking at it more 'what have you done lately.' I just worry the lately has changed the expectation of this program to just being happy to make the NCAAs, ecstatic to host, and being in the top half, maybe top third of the conference. I think there are a lot of circumstances that are radically different than Deb and Susie. But it seems like Mittie has brought a lot of new energy to the wbb program. I'm just curious to see at what point you think we need a change just for changes sake, or if that is even a thing in your mind.
First of all, I was dead ass wrong about deb, 100%. I honestly think the only thing that has changed in regards to Suzie is KU making that final four last year. If that didn't happen the casual fan wouldn't think "they did it, why can't we?" That is a fair question to ask, but for me I wouldn't trade their two seasons for what we have had. And like I've said before, even if this is what she is you can't fire an Olympic coach for what she's done. Is it more likely that you get someone who makes the NCAA tournament 3 out of every 4 years or are you going to get someone who you'll need to fire in 5 years because of sagging performance and attendance. She shouldn't change a thing, we win and make money, that's enough for me.
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Any news on the tourney yet?
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Just saw that the show is airing now.
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HOLY crap!!! We're hosting, 14 seed
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i like that they seed the top 16 in the tourney. And for the Lady Cats to be 14th is amazing.
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Friday night. Awesome to host two rounds
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Great news
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Congrats vballcats!
Until suzie starts rough ridin' her players, she shouldn't be compared to oddly christian fundamentalist lesbo dominatrix deb.
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Anyone headed to watch tonight? I'm on my way from Topeka.
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The fightin' Marcus Fosters! Bye KU
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The fightin' Marcus Fosters! Bye KU
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cats osu tomorrow at 7
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Nice easy win for the Cats tonight. Worried about tomorrow, we haven't played the Big 10 worth a damn, like ever.
As far as Creighton goes, they had to win twice tonight. In the fifth set KU appeared to hit a ball out that gave Creighton a 18-16 win. The up ref called the ball out and Creighton poured onto the court to celebrate. The ref did not scan his line judges before making his call and the line judge in front of KU's bench called a touch. Well the up ref calls both line judges over to him while Creighton is :party: their asses off and literally a minute after he called the ball out, the up ref called a touch, to make the score 17-17. Creighton finally won 20-18.
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Nice easy win for the Cats tonight. Worried about tomorrow, we haven't played the Big 10 worth a damn, like ever.
As far as Creighton goes, they had to win twice tonight. In the fifth set KU appeared to hit a ball out that gave Creighton a 18-16 win. The up ref called the ball out and Creighton poured onto the court to celebrate. The ref did not scan his line judges before making his call and the line judge in front of KU's bench called a touch. Well the up ref calls both line judges over to him while Creighton is :party: their asses off and literally a minute after he called the ball out, the up ref called a touch, to make the score 17-17. Creighton finally won 20-18.
I was sitting with a guy whose wife is a KU grad. When they won the fourth set he said it looked like KU would win since it went to a fifth set. The post game show is when I heard they lost.
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KU didn't host because of that cracker box tin shed they play in, and apparently Allen's Boo House isn't set up for volleyball. Lol at being so beholden to basketball that you can't move a game or two and won't install a couple of volleyball post holders on your court.
But, KU finished last year in the red on an operational basis (again) and no one showed up at the Sprint Center for their bball game (but they OWN Kansas City) so they probably couldn't afford to lose the revenue of the bball game.
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Welp, so far this is a joke.
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#kstate #postseason
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Not a bad comeback, but disastrous start.
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guys, enjoy the cup of ncaa coffee
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Great third set for the ladies. They can play with OSU. The last set was good defensive volleyball for the Cats.
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Time to go to a 5th set!
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This is some really high quality volleyball.
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Guys can't watch, and never get like this for any other sport.
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Cats up 4-3. totally back and forth
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volleyball's crazy, man
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Tied at 6
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TO tOSU, cats up 8-6
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brew another pot!!!
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damn, down 13-11
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Absolutely a great match. Can the Cats finish it out with a win?
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Tied @ 13 :pray:
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Go Cats.
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Tied at 14
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15s
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Hate to lose, but what a great match!
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Good effort ladies.
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Hate to lose, but what a great match!
Absolutely. The match was exciting and everything tournament play should be. Wish the outcome had been different, but it was a superb match. Glad to be there to see it.
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Hate to lose, but what a great match!
Absolutely. The match was exciting and everything tournament play should be. Wish the outcome had been different, but it was a superb match. Glad to be there to see it.
I was able to go Friday, but knew that yesterday's match had potential to be amazing. Glad you got to go.
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Hate to lose, but what a great match!
Absolutely. The match was exciting and everything tournament play should be. Wish the outcome had been different, but it was a superb match. Glad to be there to see it.
I was able to go Friday, but knew that yesterday's match had potential to be amazing. Glad you got to go.
Saturday was well worth it. Sorry you apparently missed Saturday, but it's good you were there Friday for a fun match to watch.
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Hook Em'!
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MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State head volleyball coach Suzie Fritz announced the commitments of Brooke Heyne and Jacque Smith for the upcoming 2017 season.
Heyne, a 5-11 outside hitter, was named the 2016-17 Gatorade Nebraska Volleyball Player of the Year out of Skutt Catholic High School in Nebraska. Heyne led the SkyHawks to a perfect 44-0 record and second straight state title to go along with a No. 2 national ranking by PrepVolleyball.com.
In her senior season, Heyne tallied 474 kills, 362 digs and 40 service aces. A 2016-17 Under Armour Third Team All-American, she is also a MaxPreps First Team All-American and was named co-captain of the All-Nebraska Team.
“An incredibly talented and versatile player with a strong all-around skill set,” Fritz said of Heyne. “Brooke is a capable attacker, passer and defender that can impact our team in a number of ways. In addition, she has experienced great academic and competitive success. She excels in all areas of her life as an outstanding person committed to service and her academics.”
Smith was a four-year letterwinner out of St. Teresa’s Academy in Kansas City, Missouri. The 5-7 libero was selected to the Missouri-Kansas All-Star Team her senior season after setting the single-season digs record at STA with 545.
Smith received all-state, all-district and all-region honors in both her junior and senior seasons, as she led STA to the state tournament both years.
“Jacque is a high-energy and competitive libero candidate with good court presence and the capacity to manage first contact at a high level,” said Fritz. “Her primary responsibilities will be in the areas of pass and defend, but she will impact our team culture as a student and positive teammate.”
The Wildcats, coming off their 12th 20-win season under Fritz and fifth trip to the NCAA Tournament in the last six years, are currently in the midst of their spring schedule in preparation for the upcoming fall season.
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MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State head volleyball coach Suzie Fritz announced the commitments of Brooke Heyne and Jacque Smith for the upcoming 2017 season.
Heyne, a 5-11 outside hitter, was named the 2016-17 Gatorade Nebraska Volleyball Player of the Year out of Skutt Catholic High School in Nebraska. Heyne led the SkyHawks to a perfect 44-0 record and second straight state title to go along with a No. 2 national ranking by PrepVolleyball.com.
In her senior season, Heyne tallied 474 kills, 362 digs and 40 service aces. A 2016-17 Under Armour Third Team All-American, she is also a MaxPreps First Team All-American and was named co-captain of the All-Nebraska Team.
“An incredibly talented and versatile player with a strong all-around skill set,” Fritz said of Heyne. “Brooke is a capable attacker, passer and defender that can impact our team in a number of ways. In addition, she has experienced great academic and competitive success. She excels in all areas of her life as an outstanding person committed to service and her academics.”
Smith was a four-year letterwinner out of St. Teresa’s Academy in Kansas City, Missouri. The 5-7 libero was selected to the Missouri-Kansas All-Star Team her senior season after setting the single-season digs record at STA with 545.
Smith received all-state, all-district and all-region honors in both her junior and senior seasons, as she led STA to the state tournament both years.
“Jacque is a high-energy and competitive libero candidate with good court presence and the capacity to manage first contact at a high level,” said Fritz. “Her primary responsibilities will be in the areas of pass and defend, but she will impact our team culture as a student and positive teammate.”
The Wildcats, coming off their 12th 20-win season under Fritz and fifth trip to the NCAA Tournament in the last six years, are currently in the midst of their spring schedule in preparation for the upcoming fall season.
The hitter sounds like a great addition. Looking forward to hearing more and following them again this fall.
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Is there any news from today's noon match? I am having trouble finding it. I know they started with a win last night, and have two matches today. tia
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We swept Idaho. Oregon State at 9pm
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The Oregon State match showed lots of weakness on our part.
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Gene will extend for a lifetime
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I followed on Twitter, didn't sound like a great effort. Looking forward to ESPN3 having some matches.
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It was streamed, we were absolutely awful against OSU.
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We play Arkansas tonight at 7pm should be a good game. Go Cats! :ksu:
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First time running a 2 setter offense. Looked rusty and don't know if they will stick with it. Lost in 5 to Arkansas.
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Went 0-3 in our own tournament...are we shitty?
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Yes, we're bad right now, although we beat North Florida earlier this evening.
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Take that, OU!
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Cats win?
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Yep in 5!
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:ksu:
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Welp, 6 straight to KU, it used to be the opposite.
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I'm ready to lock this coach up
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Well that was disappointing, the girls absolutely tightened up on the 4th and 5th. I'd also love to know from someone in the purple pit, what was up Rigdon's ass. She was talking a lot of shot when the game was over.
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Saw that Volleyball got a verbal from the #15 recruit in the nation for 2018.
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Welp, 6 straight to KU, it used to be the opposite.
we didn't lose to KU at home my 4 years in college :(
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Yeah, we used to beat the crap out of Texas when I was in school, things change, crap happens. I'm happy we've been relevant, in an Olympic sport, for 21 years straight.
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Cats having so many technical difficulties early on. Ugh.
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The Cats are getting killed at the net.
They are not playing in their system at all.
Never attacking. So tentative.
Fritz is not as aesthetically pleasing as Kramer.
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espnu blocked it out in the kc market and had sec vball on
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Well the feed was awful. It was a painful broadcast to fight through.
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Yeah, that feed was a nightmare, the volleyball wasn't any better.
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Well..it’s too late. They won’t make the tournament.
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That was out like a month ago
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Be happy with what you got, don't ask for better
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ESPNU
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Canary can't stand this team.
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Canary can't stand this team.
Dislikes the vball coaching more than the football coaching.
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Wow! Kstate sports is a crap show right now (soccer is exempt).
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Lovely Last Place Finish in the conference this year... :flush: :facepalm:
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NCAA final 4 from the sprint center in KC on ESPN right now...
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Jazz Sweet freshman for nebraska...from Tecumseh, KS. Could of used her help!
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Enjoying watching the ladies play Hawaii this evening. Off to a great start.
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Lady Cats looking good so far this season. Enjoying being able to watch on television.
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:thumbs:
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They're okay, I'm worried about the passing and setting.
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I was thinking that in a couple of matches, especially sets between Dixon and Zumach. But I think that will get better with time. I think that Dixon will be a really good setter. I am looking forward to Big 12 play.
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I agree, and I'm glad we ditched that God awful 6-2 offense.
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Another win! :ksu:
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I agree, and I'm glad we ditched that God awful 6-2 offense.
Are you going to attend a vb match this season? If so, lemme know when and I'll try to join. I haven't been to a match since I left MHK a few years ago.
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Great job getting swept by OU ladies... :Yuck:
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I agree, and I'm glad we ditched that God awful 6-2 offense.
Are you going to attend a vb match this season? If so, lemme know when and I'll try to join. I haven't been to a match since I left MHK a few years ago.
Gonna be tough, if I do, I'll definitely hit you up.
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The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
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They had a really good non con but the last two matches have been terrible.
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They had a really good non con but the last two matches have been terrible.
gotta work hard to manage staying on the bubble, it's all about getting that (small) cup of coffee in the ncaa's
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They had a really good non con but the last two matches have been terrible.
gotta work hard to manage staying on the bubble, it's all about getting that (small) cup of coffee in the ncaa's
clams has nailed the Susie Secret. Sneak in to the tourney every few years, get absolutely demolished by a better team and then take a few years off
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The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
Considering her boss is on record discussing the trouble she has recruiting to a 68 year old building with a flooding problem, I'm guessing she's very safe.
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The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
Considering her boss is on record discussing the trouble she has recruiting to a 68 year old building with a flooding problem, I'm guessing she's very safe.
I've heard that she does not want to play in the Octagon despite the urging of almost everyone so I find it hard to give her a pass on that.
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The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
Considering her boss is on record discussing the trouble she has recruiting to a 68 year old building with a flooding problem, I'm guessing she's very safe.
I've heard that she does not want to play in the Octagon despite the urging of almost everyone so I find it hard to give her a pass on that.
She doesn't want to play there because it's a 12,000 seat basketball arena with no locker and training facilities that they can call their own and they would spend over half of the season having to share court time. That situation isn't any better, less flooding, more facility sharing. With either the Ahearn or the Bramlage set up K-State volleyball has the worst facilities by far in the Big 12. I know a couple of coaches on the Iowa State staff and they hate playing in Hilton despite them having very good and permanent facilities. If you've ever seen a match at a dedicated volleyball facility there is a discernable difference. Frankly, it's ridiculous that people have the expectation that volleyball teams play in facilities built for other sports. How many college baseball teams play in multi use facilities?
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K-State overall athletic track record is still a roller coaster ride even when the facilities get newer and nicer.
So the question is absolutely applicable here.
Volleyball is played in venues also used for basketball in thousands of places across the country.
The facility crutch only goes so far, V-Ball has remodeled dressing rooms which are easily the nicest of any non-revenue sport at K-State. V-Ball has the nicest offices of any non revenue sport at K-State, that's the old men's basketball offices and they've been remodeled. Ahearn is not optimal, but it has both game day court and practice courts. So while I'm all for a new VB arena, I have my doubts that it will lift the boat all that much under current leadership.
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Where do most D1 P5 volleyball teams play?
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Where do most D1 P5 volleyball teams play?
Stay on point. She has a great excuse for being legitimately below average
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Where do most D1 P5 volleyball teams play?
Nationwide it's about 50/50 in the Big 12 KU, OU, Texas, and TCU have their own facilities. You want a damming indictment on how we've neglected volleyball compared to their peers. Look at this link. Look at when this was built and how much it cost. People mock ku football, we've been light years behind ku volleyball facilities for twenty years and this is when K-State was an absolute machine and ku was simply awful.
https://kuathletics.com/sports/2013/6/27/facilities-horejsi-family-athletics-center.aspx?id=198
And despite what dax says about volleyball having the nicest non revenue locker room, that simply isn't true. Their comps are baseball, women's basketball, and soccer and all three of those have new facilities or will have them very soon. Soccer is going to lap volleyball and they've been here for 15 minutes. Even rowing has their facility, rowing! The basement of Ahearn flooded this month.
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our football recruiting would go crazy if we would just spend a dime on facilities
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The new soccer stadium is going to be pretty nice, but it ain't gonna lap anybody. Just a nice solid facility with a nice dressing room and players lounge and some offices with a little rinky dink weightroom. Again, solid, good enough, lapping no one.
V-Ball now 0-4 and I'm holding Ahearn Fieldhouse personally responsible.
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How much does she make?
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CAN HER ASS
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0-5, and on a basketball court
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Somebody wake Gene up and tell him we have the worst volleyball team in the conference. again.
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0-6 in conference after last night. Firm grip on last place.
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At least Gene can fire her instead of bill.
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So let's say that the volleyball team keeps losing, worth noting that we only have one winnable home match left. Does Suzie get fired and we go and hire one of her former players, Dawn Sullivan? She's in her first year as the head coach at UNLV and she's got them rolling. They've already won 14 times and are second in the conference, they only won 8 matches total last season.
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a commitment to the sport including new vball facilities would help us retain coaching talent. why didn't you stick that in our ugly faces when we were making fun of you for wanting a dedicated vball stad?
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it seems like volleyball is all recruiting and our coach can't recruit
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our coaches that could recruit left us
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the girls won in 4 tonight against the squawks. they looked really good imo. ku plays great defense
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Big win tonight.
I've said it before, a close friend and someone who would know says that there was a stretch a few years ago K-State really blew it with some top recruits that could have moved the strength back to the MHK away from another school.
Maybe they'll get on a roll now.
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My bad mouthing the coach schtick delivers again.
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And again today
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my powers are growing
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Do I start mocking that absolutely awful baseball hire now to force him to win or wait until the spring?
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Do I start mocking that absolutely awful baseball hire now to force him to win or wait until the spring?
I'm gonna wait and see on this guy, but as soon as the baseball stadium is done and he's still got K-State as a bottom feeder then we shall mock together.
On the VB note, I suppose we'll need to wait until SF has that new $31 million dollar complex before we can have any expectations for volleyball.
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beat the hawks 3-2 tonight for the season sweep
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Looks like they're going to avoid last place.
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They still have a 50/50 shot at making the tournament even with the poor conference record. Selection show is Sunday. Won at TCU yesterday.
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No tourney - third time in last six years and fifth time in the last 10. While Bill holds the athletic department hostage, Taylor should be finding Suzie's replacement (starting with a call to Dawn Sullivan).
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I'm wondering what Susie supporters are going to come up with this time on why she should still have a job.
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I'm wondering what Susie supporters are going to come up with this time on why she should still have a job.
Can't do anything with Susie until she gets that $31 million dollar new facility.
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we might not gotten our annual cup of ncaa tournament coffee this year but at least we drove by the starbucks in colby
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CAN HER ASS
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She is long overdue to be replaced.
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Untouchable until after 5 seasons in the new facility.
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Not gonna lie, my GAF level about firing the lady vb coach is exactly zero GAF's.
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Kansas City area is a hotbed for VB talent. Suzie and staff, with a few exceptions are getting stomped recruiting that area.
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Got a top 50 recruit from Louisurg. When will the facility be done? 2020?
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Not gonna lie, my GAF level about firing the lady vb coach is exactly zero GAF's.
Got a top 50 recruit from Louisurg. When will the facility be done? 2020?
She's the real deal and also has deep family ties to KState. They are whiffing on far more than they are hitting.
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Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.
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Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.
Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.
Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
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Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.
Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.
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Illinois has players from Topeka and Lenexa. Nebraska has one from Topeka and Stanford has 2 starters from OP.
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Illinois has players from Topeka and Lenexa. Nebraska has one from Topeka and Stanford has 2 starters from OP.
All of them except Nebraska's Jazz Sweet played for KC clubs. Nebraska's Callie Schwartzenbach from Kearney MO played for a KC club also. Volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC. I would hope that Suzie could start taking advantage.
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Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.
Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.
I literally said "Kansas City has very good club and youth programs." I also never said that KC or HOA doesn't produce D1 athletes. I took exception to your posturing that Kansas City has more talent than any like sized cities. You haven't proven your point, you just keep reiterating that HOA have good club programs, a point I wholeheartedly agree with.
I'll also take exception to "volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC." It seems like you've been paying attention for only "the last 7-8 years." I started coaching clubs in HOA 18 years ago and the region was producing about a dozen D1 players a year and winning club national championships back then. The only real change is the Big 10 getting better and coming into the region for talent.
Your 1/3 membership claim is dubious when it comes to the neighboring regions. Compared to some of the southern and west coast regions, Rocky Mountain, North Texas, Lone Star, Keystone, sure; but to Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Stop it.
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Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.
Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.
I literally said "Kansas City has very good club and youth programs." I also never said that KC or HOA doesn't produce D1 athletes. I took exception to your posturing that Kansas City has more talent than any like sized cities. You haven't proven your point, you just keep reiterating that HOA have good club programs, a point I wholeheartedly agree with.
I'll also take exception to "volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC." It seems like you've been paying attention for only "the last 7-8 years." I started coaching clubs in HOA 18 years ago and the region was producing about a dozen D1 players a year and winning club national championships back then. The only real change is the Big 10 getting better and coming into the region for talent.
Your 1/3 membership claim is dubious when it comes to the neighboring regions. Compared to some of the southern and west coast regions, Rocky Mountain, North Texas, Lone Star, Keystone, sure; but to Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Stop it.
So a good example would be to compare say the Iowa region with HOA? Basically equal membership. And what national titles are you talking about 18 years ago, the lower level region bid awarded? The 12-13 yr old age groups? FYI, in 2018 HOA had 12 teams qualify Open, 10 of them from KC Clubs. Iowa had 2. Apparently the KC area indeed is producing talent at a higher clip than you believed. Didn't this start with your claim that KC was painfully just average in spitting out D1 players? Your clownsuit is perfectly tailored but I will continue to make all the unnecessary alterations that you request.
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bottom line is we should be recruiting better and our program should be winning more.
suzie needs to go
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Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.
Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.
I literally said "Kansas City has very good club and youth programs." I also never said that KC or HOA doesn't produce D1 athletes. I took exception to your posturing that Kansas City has more talent than any like sized cities. You haven't proven your point, you just keep reiterating that HOA have good club programs, a point I wholeheartedly agree with.
I'll also take exception to "volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC." It seems like you've been paying attention for only "the last 7-8 years." I started coaching clubs in HOA 18 years ago and the region was producing about a dozen D1 players a year and winning club national championships back then. The only real change is the Big 10 getting better and coming into the region for talent.
Your 1/3 membership claim is dubious when it comes to the neighboring regions. Compared to some of the southern and west coast regions, Rocky Mountain, North Texas, Lone Star, Keystone, sure; but to Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Stop it.
So a good example would be to compare say the Iowa region with HOA? Basically equal membership. And what national titles are you talking about 18 years ago, the lower level region bid awarded? The 12-13 yr old age groups? FYI, in 2018 HOA had 12 teams qualify Open, 10 of them from KC Clubs. Iowa had 2. Apparently the KC area indeed is producing talent at a higher clip than you believed. Didn't this start with your claim that KC was painfully just average in spitting out D1 players? Your clownsuit is perfectly tailored but I will continue to make all the unnecessary alterations that you request.
Nah, you apparently can't read. We can just leave the conversation here. Kansas City metro has more volleyball players than the entire state of Iowa, HOA also has Topeka, Wichita, COMO, etc. You seem to be focused on me instead of proving your claim that Kansas City is some new volleyball hotbed that Suzie isn't taking advantage of. Never mind the fact that she has more former HOA players than any other D1 school.
If you just stated your opinion that you think Suzie isn't doing her job or that she needs to go, like pissclams did, I wouldn't have even replied, I mean what am I going to say? But you tried to make a point using a dubious "fact," and you won't prove it or let it go.
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i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
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Kansas City area is a hotbed for VB talent. Suzie and staff, with a few exceptions are getting stomped recruiting that area.
What is dubious about this statement MIR? It is indeed a hotbed for talent & by in large they are not ending up in Manhattan.
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i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
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Kansas City area is a hotbed for VB talent. Suzie and staff, with a few exceptions are getting stomped recruiting that area.
What is dubious about this statement MIR? It is indeed a hotbed for talent & by in large they are not ending up in Manhattan.
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I've said a thousand times that I take exception to "hotbed" particularly in how you're framing it. But moving past that, I'll give you "hotbed." I'm going to scream this because you clearly missed it when I spoke normally to you the first time. SUZIE SIGNS MORE KANSAS CITY/HOA GIRLS THAN ANY OTHER PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY. This includes KU, UMKC, Missouri, Missouri State, and Nebraska. The fact that she got beat by Nebraska, Stanford, and BYU for the best KC kids isn't ground breaking. Those are all traditional powers that spend at least twice as much on volleyball than we do.
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i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
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i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
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i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.
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i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.
I agree with all of that. I love Kylee, one of my favorite cats OAT, she's still what I'd consider, lumbering.
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i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.
I agree with all of that. I love Kylee, one of my favorite cats OAT, she's still what I'd consider, lumbering.
Wish we could have pulled Kylee’s little sister.
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Kari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?
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Kari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?
Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
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Kari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?
Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
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So, do you think it's an evaluation issue or is she missing on primary targets? I'm not as connected to HOA as I was when I lived there so I don't know who she is targeting.
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Kari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?
Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
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So, do you think it's an evaluation issue or is she missing on primary targets? I'm not as connected to HOA as I was when I lived there so I don't know who she is targeting.
Not certain what the deal is. The Waits are a KState family, Bechard gets Cassie to walk on @ KU & we know the rest of the story. The high level talent seems to end up at Power & MAVS. Dixon is the first impact player she’s pulled from either club in awhile. Power already has a 2021 OH committed to OU & a 2021 MB committed to Illinois. The later is from a KState family. Suzie seems to have lost her seat at the table. Maybe she shouldn’t roster 23 kids.
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Thank goodness NU didn’t win the deal. They are insufferable and try to talk to me about volleyball constantly. Did you watch the MATCH? No fuckface, I didn’t watch the game.
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Thank goodness NU didn’t win the deal. They are insufferable and try to talk to me about volleyball constantly. Did you watch the MATCH? No fuckface, I didn’t watch the game.
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They are hard to stomach for sure but one helluva program. Average around 8K for home games, if you removed the blue hair it would be about 1500.
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Nothing worse than being at a game or tournament with Nebraska volleyball fans and having some old woman oldsplain volleyball to you. They're so damn corny with their dumb signs and roof chants. eff Nebraska.
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The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
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The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
Until she gets the new facility and fails in that, she is K-State's V-ball coach, those are the rules.
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At least Hill had the decency to step aside
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The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
I will still contend that the standard for Olympic coaches is much different, I'm starting to lose patience. This will be the first time since 1995 that we will go three years without a tournament appearance. She still isn't in the position where she should be fire after this season, 12 tournament appearances in 19 years is very good. The trend however is bad. This team is young but they will need to replace the setter, you can't continually sell a rebuild. This team will finish with around 10 wins. For her to get 2021, I think that she can't lose any key players before 2020 and that team needs to, at the very least, be on the tournament bubble.
Meanwhile UNLV has a bad record but they have put together a ridiculous schedule. They play KU this weekend. Dawn is clearly building to conference play and is willing to take a beating in the non-con.
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You could see this crap show coming. Sandbothe bolted to Ohio St as a grad transfer which left a big hole. If it makes anybody feel better, it’s happening at KU also.
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You could see this crap show coming. Sandbothe bolted to Ohio St as a grad transfer which left a big hole. If it makes anybody feel better, it’s happening at KU also.
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Smoked by UNLV :users:
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Bechard hit it big with a setter, OH, & a walk on Libero that had never played the position before college. All under recruited & none would have passed the “size profile” for their position. Reached a Final Four & abandoned the eye test & went with the “size profile”. Suzie has always recruited “size profile” instead of court production/smarts. Let a number of Kansas kids leave the state that could have helped her keep her job.
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The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
I will still contend that the standard for Olympic coaches is much different, I'm starting to lose patience. This will be the first time since 1995 that we will go three years without a tournament appearance. She still isn't in the position where she should be fire after this season, 12 tournament appearances in 19 years is very good. The trend however is bad. This team is young but they will need to replace the setter, you can't continually sell a rebuild. This team will finish with around 10 wins. For her to get 2021, I think that she can't lose any key players before 2020 and that team needs to, at the very least, be on the tournament bubble.
Meanwhile UNLV has a bad record but they have put together a ridiculous schedule. They play KU this weekend. Dawn is clearly building to conference play and is willing to take a beating in the non-con.
UNLV recently slipped into HOA & took a talented 2021 OH that I guess Suzie didn’t think was good enough?
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I'll say it again, my "in the know" Kansas and Midwest V-ball contact told me that Suzie went into some weird ass recruiting spiel multiple times that sent multiple P5 players highly interested in K-State elsewhere. Total turn off to student-athlete and parents.
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I'll say it again, my "in the know" Kansas and Midwest V-ball contact told me that Suzie went into some weird ass recruiting spiel multiple times that sent multiple P5 players highly interested in K-State elsewhere. Total turn off to student-athlete and parents.
Ahh... yes, the "Deb Patterson" approach.
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don't look now, but the NDSU coach is named Jennifer Lopez :excited:
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1-5 in the conference and 6-12 overall....woof.
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we almost beat PU (ou)
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I’m guessing the NCAA Transfer Portal for VB will be very active. If she loses Muturi and/or Dixon that would be the final nail.
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do you guys care more about wins or developing student athletes for a career in something other than sports? sometimes it's hard to tell. smh
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In the last match at OU, they were up 2-0 and then lost the next two games (after having a late lead in the third). Then they were up 10-4 in the 5th and lost 16-14. Even by Suzie standards, it was pretty impressive.
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they are a brand new facility away from turning the corner, patience
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There are 13 freshmen and sophomores on this roster, outside of Peyton Williams, those underclassmen are our best players. She'll get another year, unless there are key departures like dirty deeds said, no reason to think that's going to happen though.
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NCAA has made it way to easy to transfer in D1 VB & be immediately eligible. Hope Anna Dixon hangs in. Playing 6 rotations @ OH as a frosh? She’s a stud & will only get better. KC Power is a factory.
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really fun match and win tonight against the loser squawks
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Nice win against KU after falling in an 0-2 hole. Dixon figuring it out very quickly. MIR, did you see Kari Zumach transferred to Indiana?
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Nice win against KU after falling in an 0-2 hole. Dixon figuring it out very quickly. MIR, did you see Kari Zumach transferred to Indiana?
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I did not. Odd choice, wonder why she picked there? They aren't that good and it looks like she was a sub when she did play but now she isn't playing at all.
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Suzie Cats are now 8-17. Kansas HS players of the year in each class have been released. 6A POY is a South Dakota commit. SD sits at #38 in RPI, a full 150 spots ahead of the Cats. 5A POY is a KU commit & on the USA under 18 team. 2 of the top libero’s in the country are from KS and are committed to Creighton & Louisville. One of the top 2021 setters in the country is from KS & is also a Creighton commit. We are getting embarrassed on the recruiting front. It’s time...
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Suzie Cats are now 8-17. Kansas HS players of the year in each class have been released. 6A POY is a South Dakota commit. SD sits at #38 in RPI, a full 150 spots ahead of the Cats. 5A POY is a KU commit & on the USA under 18 team. 2 of the top libero’s in the country are from KS and are committed to Creighton & Louisville. One of the top 2021 setters in the country is from KS & is also a Creighton commit. We are getting embarrassed on the recruiting front. It’s time...
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Woof.
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CAN HER ASS
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it sounds like suzie...
...is on the fritz...
YEAH!!!
CAN HER ASS!
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If you watch both Cats & Hawks play you’ll understand why it’s necessary to offer back row money. Putrid
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Are they going to because that match tonight against OU was really bad.
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SUSIE FRITZ IS NOT OUR STANDARD GENE! WAKE UP!!!! CAN HER ASS!
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Lindsey Gray-Walton inherited a bigger mess at OU 2 years ago after they let a popular long term coach go. She’s got them rolling.
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Dawn Sullivan's got UNLV about 100 spots higher in the RPI than K-State...
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Jean Bismarck has New Mexico humming right along, a cool 170ish spots better than the cats, unreal.
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She's not going anywhere until she gets the new arena.
On a related note Coach Dibs has had $14.5 million dollars worth new facilities built for his program since its inception. The fastest facilities trajectory in K-State athletic history. Other women's soccer program quite literally waited decades to get what K-State has now.
Time to get beyond 1 conference win a year.
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She's not going anywhere until she gets the new arena.
On a related note Coach Dibs has had $14.5 million dollars worth new facilities built for his program since its inception. The fastest facilities trajectory in K-State athletic history. Other women's soccer program quite literally waited decades to get what K-State has now.
Time to get beyond 1 conference win a year.
CAN DIBS' ASS!!!
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The fastest facilities trajectory in K-State athletic history.
I'm not bullshitting when I say this is the most insincere and intellectually dishonest thing I've ever read from dax on a sports thread, and that says a great deal.
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I think it’s time for a change. They have a decent recruiting class next year. One is in the top 50 and another in the top 100. Maybe they could be ok with another coach.
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I think it’s time for a change. They have a decent recruiting class next year. One is in the top 50 and another in the top 100. Maybe they could be ok with another coach.
I wouldn’t pay an ounce of attention to those player rankings outside the top 20. There’s a local KC kid in the Top 100 that can’t get on the floor for her below average HS team.
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Season ending 3 set sweep of TT on the road. Noticed they ran a 6-2. Too lazy to go back & see when they made that move. 9-19 & 4-12 in conference play.
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They've been doing it off and on all season. I couldn't tell you why Suzie makes the decision when to run it and when not to.
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Certainly a positive that Suzie’s team didn’t quit on her.
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I think they started running a 6-2 after they knew the season was a bust and to get the freshman setter who didn’t want to redshirt some experience. She’s a taller setter so they probably plan on moving back to the 5-1 and that will help the block.
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KU lists only 7 players on their 20-21 roster which indicates they have 6 players transferring? Wow! I thought this wouldn’t start until after the tourney was compete. I wonder how many of their players end up at A&M? I’d bet we get some bad news soon as well.
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Yeah bud, pretty safe bet we're going to have players transfer out and in, every program has them, there's hundreds every year. Lexi freaking Sun transferred, nothing is sacred.
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Yeah bud, pretty safe bet we're going to have players transfer out and in, every program has them, there's hundreds every year. Lexi freaking Sun transferred, nothing is sacred.
I’ve heard there are some comical reasons that are used to gain immediate eligibility. It’s basically a given now that they don’t have to sit a season.
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I'm ready to eliminate the facilities excuse ASAP. The South Endzone is $50 million and that's already paid for, and I heard they had $70 million or so committed. If so, that leaves $10 milllion more needed for the new volleyball arena and Olympic sports facility.
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Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
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Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
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Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
No, it's really not. Historically speaking, K-State facilities have been quite poor. But, Fritz/VB haven't been nearly as poor as the vast majority of the other sports.
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Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
No, it's really not. Historically speaking, K-State facilities have been quite poor. But, Fritz/VB haven't been nearly as poor as the vast majority of the other sports.
Even if this is true, how in the world is it relevant? Is she recruiting against other college volleyball programs or the K-State baseball team?
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Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
No, it's really not. Historically speaking, K-State facilities have been quite poor. But, Fritz/VB haven't been nearly as poor as the vast majority of the other sports.
Even if this is true, how in the world is it relevant? Is she recruiting against other college volleyball programs or the K-State baseball team?
It's relevant for several reasons - other K-State coaches have had worse facilities and, arguably, performed better than Fritz (Snyder in the early days, Rovelto, etc.).
Setting aside the sports that virtually nobody historically cares about (including our athletic department) such as golf, tennis, rowing, etc., the athletic department has actually fired coaches for lack of performance in the middle tier sports (VB, women's b-ball, baseball) as well as the upper tier (football, men's b-ball). Fritz's past three years are as bad (and it's pretty easy to argue it's worse) than anything under Wooly, Asbury, Clark, Patterson - all coaches who were pushed out despite not having "great" facilities (b-ball was still in Ahearn for practices/offices and Clark had a couple of years with a stadium that was middle of the pack the second it was built, while ceiling tiles were still falling in Brandeberry).
As for VB facilities, outside of the top 25ish programs, the vast majority of VB facilities across the country are high school level or slightly higher. No dedicated VB practice courts, sharing time with basketball teams for court time, etc. By that measure, Fritz should be able to produce a fringe top 25 program. She did for a while, but her program has fallen off the rails. A new facility will give her a boost, but it won't fix the root problem, which is that Fritz is past her prime and it's time for her to go.
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CAN HER ASS!
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Anna Dixon transferring to Mizzou. Horrible look for the program considering her KState bloodlines.
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Anna Dixon transferring to Mizzou. Horrible look for the program considering her KState bloodlines.
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...& she won’t be the only significant departure.
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getting tired of all this winning
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Gloria Mutiri transferring to Oregon
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What’s Suzies plan? Lol
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Even with the proliferation of transfers nationwide this, along with seeing local talent go elsewhere, is troubling to say the least. We'll see what Gene does, if Currie was still here, she'd certainly be gone.
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what do we know about the NDSU volley program?
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their coach is named jennifer lopez! :excited:
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Why don't you white folks ever talk about Gene hiring a black tennis coach? He snatched the one decent thing about ndsu he doesn't want anything to do with that cesspool, it's why he got out himself for a regular person job.
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because i know even less about our tennis team (program?) than volleyball
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yeah, there is not a lot of tennis news on gE
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Volleyball currently "upgraded" to dumpster fire status... :curse: :bang: :buh-bye:
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Jus sayin, hiring a young black man to coach women's tennis isn't something Fargo Gene would do.
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are we a tennis school now?
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5 set win at WVU tonight on ESPNU.
Some good Fr players.
Tom
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Yes, that was great. At 2-1, the ladies are buzzing, all three matches have been awesome to watch.
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West Virginia picked last in the preseason poll, one spot ahead of KState. It’s a good win because it was on the road & most likely a loss the last couple of years. I’ve seen Aliyah Carter play a bunch in junior vb. Undersized but super athletic. Great to see her get on the court early. Transfer setter from East Carolina has also played great.
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I only caught the last 2.5 sets, but the block was better than I was expecting (in particular, Archibong looked good). It is WVU, but, baby steps... splitting with ISU last weekend was also a positive sign.
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I only caught the last 2.5 sets, but the block was better than I was expecting (in particular, Archibong looked good). It is WVU, but, baby steps... splitting with ISU last weekend was also a positive sign.
That’s Archibongs game going back to HS. Hope they can continue to develop her offense, she can bounce it.
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I only caught the last 2.5 sets, but the block was better than I was expecting (in particular, Archibong looked good). It is WVU, but, baby steps... splitting with ISU last weekend was also a positive sign.
Exactly. Doing this with all of these kids is great, now we have to keep them, but it's already apparent that this is the best team we've had in a couple of years. WE HAVE TO KEEP THESE PLAYERS!
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Another 5-set win against WVU tonight... Carlson didn't play again- hopefully it's not a major issue..
Will find out what we're made of vs. Texas next Friday-Saturday.
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That was nearly an all time pants shitting. I hope Suzie learned a lesson with not using that challenge up 6 in the third set. That being said, I don't know how the linesman and R1 missed that call, the ball was completely in.
It would have been nice to see the 5th set, damn Appalachia.
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Just saw on the ESPN bottom line that we are #13. Seems good?
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Just saw on the ESPN bottom line that we are #13. Seems good?
They are only ranking the teams that are playing. We're much better but not that good. This performance against UT is a much better gauge of how good we are because they are a legit top 5 team. The women look great, I'm thrilled.
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Just saw on the ESPN bottom line that we are #13. Seems good?
They are only ranking the teams that are playing. We're much better but not that good. This performance against UT is a much better gauge of how good we are because they are a legit top 5 team. The women look great, I'm thrilled.
I’m watching, we look good!
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HOLY crap
CONFIDENCE RISING
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LFGGG
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Well, it was fun while it lasted. The focus wasn't as sharp the fourth set, therefore the passing was horrendous. Suzie made a terrible mistake by sitting Carter to start the 5th, she tried to steal some points and we got buried before she could get on the floor.
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Sue Eying a 16 run? E8 down the line?
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Waaayyyyy too early for that
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Waaayyyyy too early for that
I’m impressed by the talent. I’d heard the ‘cruitin’ had a real uptick, but wow. I honestly wasn’t sure Sue had another run in her. Happy for her to be getting much deserved facilities and money support as well.
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Waaayyyyy too early for that
I’m impressed by the talent. I’d heard the ‘cruitin’ had a real uptick, but wow. I honestly wasn’t sure Sue had another run in her. Happy for her to be getting much deserved facilities and money support as well.
She's had three straight recruiting classes, although most from the first class are gone. It's probably going to be a while before Suzie sees that new arena, they don't have the money yet.
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They should leave Carter in the back row. One of our DS is not good.
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They should leave Carter in the back row. One of our DS is not good.
Have you seen something to indicate she can dig and pass?
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They should leave Carter in the back row. One of our DS is not good.
Have you seen something to indicate she can dig and pass?
Well it’s not ideal to recruit 3 rotation OH’s.
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I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
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I like Carter but it’s very early. Teams are seeing her for the 1st time. Film will identify how to defend her & she’ll have to adjust. I love that her offspeed stuff is already very good. That’s pretty rare for a frosh.
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I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Can she though? Her height makes me very leery about her ability to hit from the back row. Even if she can, this level of volleyball has players who can absolutely expose anyone who is a defensive liability. You can't be defending with 5 players and expect to win.
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I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Can she though? Her height makes me very leery about her ability to hit from the back row. Even if she can, this level of volleyball has players who can absolutely expose anyone who is a defensive liability. You can't be defending with 5 players and expect to win.
Serve receive can be a brutal initiation. They’ll find you.
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I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Can she though? Her height makes me very leery about her ability to hit from the back row. Even if she can, this level of volleyball has players who can absolutely expose anyone who is a defensive liability. You can't be defending with 5 players and expect to win.
Serve receive can be a brutal initiation. They’ll find you.
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Receiving with 5 and trying to hide the bad passer in the back corner of zone 5 doesn't work past club ball.
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How does Stonestreet let his niece go to ISU? (low VB IQ and maybe we recruited over her, but still!)
https://twitter.com/ericstonestreet/status/1319417452892180480?s=20
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I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
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I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
Just spent the last 30 minutes down a "KC Power" rabbit hole. Wow. The college commitment list was definitely impressive. Thanks for the additional depth.
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Yeesh, that was almost an all-time choke job. That 4th set was UGLY. We got it together just in time. Win your clunkers.
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I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
Brooke had a pretty serious injury that sidetracked her recruiting. You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
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Wait till you see the 2023 class @ KC Power
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I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
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We've signed players from them in that timeline.
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I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
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We've signed players from them in that timeline.
Yes a few, the best being Anna Dixon, a legacy KStater.........
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I am sorry Suz, win it all.
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Unfortunately, there isn't much to win this season, no tournament so the prize we're looking for is second in the conference.
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Unfortunately, there isn't much to win this season, no tournament so the prize we're looking for is second in the conference.
There is going to be a tournament in the spring, but likely only Texas and Baylor will make it because it will be 48 teams instead of 64.
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well eff me I've made a complete ass of myself on twitter. FML goddamit
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We'll finish in second, I'm confident of that.
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They have to win last 4 matches against TCU and Baylor to finish 2nd. Can't lose
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They released a 7 match spring schedule. First match is Feb 25th vs. Wichita State. At least it's something other than the basketball disaster.
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I was really hoping for better matches on the spring schedule, oh well I guess.
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Yeah, most local teams are playing conference matches when we would be available to play. So maybe the best they could do. We’ll see if the league record will be enough to get them in the tournament, along with how they do this spring.
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Started the spring with a loss to Texas State which was frustrating but have bounced back. I went to the Creighton match that we won and they looked good...Carter is on the court all the time now. Next week they scheduled Baylor as an add on and if we win we should have a decent chance at making the tournament.
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I'll be interested to see how selection goes for the entire tournament field. The RPI this year is lol horrible, like completely unusable.
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The Portal is busy
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Just Archibong, Vernon, and Kuck right? Meh. Archibong and Vernon graduated, Kuck got passed by a freshman and her boyfriend just signed a nfl free agent contract.
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Carlson to Mizzou and Martin to UCLA. Both are grad transfers so makes sense. Adams will be the setter next season.
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So five transfers and four of them have already graduated. Not ideal, but not a crisis either.
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So five transfers and four of them have already graduated. Not ideal, but not a crisis either.
Pretty much sums up Fritz's work the last 5-10 years.
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The “COVID YEAR” will cause recruiting headaches for several years. Coaches want any answer from current frosh if they’ll be using the extra eligibility year. Who could possibly answer that question so early in a career?
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We are playing Nubs on big 10 network right now. Nubs had the #1 recruiting class including the top 3 rated recruits :sdeek:
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We're a damn good volleyball team. Could have won that match. The momentum turned on that bullshit 4 contact call when Suzie reviewed the bullshit net call.
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We're a damn good volleyball team. Could have won that match. The momentum turned on that bullshit 4 contact call when Suzie reviewed the bullshit net call.
UNO took Nebraska to 5. I think we'll be better but we aren't spiking up until we have the facilities. We are The Booth for Big 12 VB facilities.
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Awful loss tonight. This should have been a tournament team, but they're tied for last place in the conference. I'm officially done with this staff. Suzie had a cool pullover on tonight tho, but I'm done.
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Awful loss tonight. This should have been a tournament team, but they're tied for last place in the conference. I'm officially done with this staff. Suzie had a cool pullover on tonight tho, but I'm done.
When they recruit outsides they want to see all of the shots. Carter is a really good athlete that's now getting defended. She doesn't have all the shots. That's on Suzie. The good ones get to wail away in HS, it doesn't work against P5.
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Flipping back in between tech cats game and Nubb wisky.. holy moly night and day between those teams (obvs) but we are sooo far off from being a good team.
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Flipping back in between tech cats game and Nubb wisky.. holy moly night and day between those teams (obvs) but we are sooo far off from being a good team.
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It's all gonna change when Susie gets that new arena
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Fritz is about to miss NCAAs for the fifth straight year (with a team that went wall-to-wall with Nebraska earlier in the year). She will have missed NCAAs eight times in the last 13 years. During that stretch, the highest finish in the league is tied for fourth (not counting COVID year) and she has never had a record better than 9-7 not counting last year's abbreviated season. This year will probably make nine non-winning Big 12 seasons in 13 years. But, Suzie will probably need at least 4-5 years in the new facility for a fair evaluation.
Our VB program - like just about every other program at K-State - is a poster-child for mediocrity and/or failure as well as serving as the athletics equivalent of non-fireable tenure for under/poor-performing coaches.
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We got screwed out of a bid last year with the smaller field, and have a chance to get up to 3rd in the Big 12 this evening. With a strong finish, we can still make it to the tournament.
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We're 46th in the RPI right now. Tech is 38th, KU is 26th, and ISU is 47th. We need to make up some ground to get off the bubble. We need to win tonight, sweep either the KU or ISU series and split the other one we don't sweep to get off the bubble. This all assuming we get swept by Texas.
The Big 12 not having a post season tournament is triple dumb.
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With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
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With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
I agree with that as a likely outcome, also agree that it won't get us in. I'd like to know why tonight's match isn't on espn+.
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With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
They aren't beating KU. Their dipshit coach can at least recruit.
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With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
I agree with that as a likely outcome, also agree that it won't get us in. I'd like to know why tonight's match isn't on espn+.
Could be wrong, but my guess is that K-State provides the production team for the ESPN+ contests and might not have the staff to handle two contests at the same time. With soccer having senior night, they chose that over VB. And, it's perfectly fitting that soccer pooped their pants with a bid to the Big 12 tournament on the line.
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With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
They aren't beating KU. Their dipshit coach can at least recruit.
I think we can at least split with them. With a NCAA bid on the line hopefully come to play
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With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
I agree with that as a likely outcome, also agree that it won't get us in. I'd like to know why tonight's match isn't on espn+.
Could be wrong, but my guess is that K-State provides the production team for the ESPN+ contests and might not have the staff to handle two contests at the same time. With soccer having senior night, they chose that over VB. And, it's perfectly fitting that soccer pooped their pants with a bid to the Big 12 tournament on the line.
Good point with espn+. That soccer match was very disappointing but felt inevitable.
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I told you.
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I told you.
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Good for you. K-State sports keeps on impressing. :sdeek:
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This was a lost opportunity, complete and total disappointment. Now we get to wait to see which good players transfer out.
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Think Ward Morgan should put the pressure on to can suzie's ass
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Frustrating to watch KU get right with in state talent. K-State not in the conversation with those kids. That's a problem & it's not going away.
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https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1465141400769548296
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In for the first time since 2016... here's to another 10-year contract extension for Suzie.
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In for the first time since 2016... here's to another 10-year contract extension for Suzie.
Shocking
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:ROFL: I didn't even watch the selection show. How in the hell did that happen? Arkansas has a better RPI, conference record, and overall record and they were left out.
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:ROFL: I didn't even watch the selection show. How in the hell did that happen? Arkansas has a better RPI, conference record, and overall record and they were left out.
I guess it's sort of like losing to Alabama Football (KU vball).
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Big 12 Volleyball!
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What in the world ??
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
Dawn Cady (and probably Liz Wegner too) would like a word with you...
But, yes, Suzie is way past her prime.
Florida State - like our Cats - are coming into this match on a bad losing streak (lost 4 of last 6). But, they have better wins than we do and probably will win.
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
No we don't. She's great though, but slow down. The greatest outside hitter in school history should be our next head coach.
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
Don't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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Is this not going to even be on ESPN+? :angry:
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
Don't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
Don't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
Don't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5
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Kills minus hitting errors divided by total attacks = hitting percentage.
As it relates to what's good, it varies by position. Generally, middles hit the highest followed by the opposite hitter and then the outside hitters.
People will argue about what is "good" but for a high volume OH like Carter, you'd like to see that hit percentage above .200 and, ideally, closer to .250. Anything above .250, I think you'd be thrilled.
If Suzie could diversify the offense a bit more, you'd see Carter's percentage increase as well. As it stands, she's the person who often gets stuck with attacks that have zero chance of being successful.
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
Don't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5
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Kills minus hitting errors divided by total attacks = hitting percentage.
As it relates to what's good, it varies by position. Generally, middles hit the highest followed by the opposite hitter and then the outside hitters.
People will argue about what is "good" but for a high volume OH like Carter, you'd like to see that hit percentage above .200 and, ideally, closer to .250. Anything above .250, I think you'd be thrilled.
If Suzie could diversify the offense a bit more, you'd see Carter's percentage increase as well. As it stands, she's the person who often gets stuck with attacks that have zero chance of being successful.
Damn, thank you for this insight. I appreciate it! So best outside hitter in school history is?!
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
Don't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5
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Kills minus hitting errors divided by total attacks = hitting percentage.
As it relates to what's good, it varies by position. Generally, middles hit the highest followed by the opposite hitter and then the outside hitters.
People will argue about what is "good" but for a high volume OH like Carter, you'd like to see that hit percentage above .200 and, ideally, closer to .250. Anything above .250, I think you'd be thrilled.
If Suzie could diversify the offense a bit more, you'd see Carter's percentage increase as well. As it stands, she's the person who often gets stuck with attacks that have zero chance of being successful.
Damn, thank you for this insight. I appreciate it! So best outside hitter in school history is?!
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Like MIR said, it's Dawn Cady. And, it's a shame she isn't already our head coach.
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We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
Don't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5
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Kills minus hitting errors divided by total attacks = hitting percentage.
As it relates to what's good, it varies by position. Generally, middles hit the highest followed by the opposite hitter and then the outside hitters.
People will argue about what is "good" but for a high volume OH like Carter, you'd like to see that hit percentage above .200 and, ideally, closer to .250. Anything above .250, I think you'd be thrilled.
If Suzie could diversify the offense a bit more, you'd see Carter's percentage increase as well. As it stands, she's the person who often gets stuck with attacks that have zero chance of being successful.
Outside Hitters numbers also go way down with crap passing. They get almost all of the out of system trash caused by a poor pass. It requires you to play cooperatively vs aggressively. Stat killer.
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https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1465787972306018312?s=21
Pretty cool!
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https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1465787972306018312?s=21
Pretty cool!
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May god bless her shoulder after 1130 swings. Murder
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The thing I will say as it relates to Aaliyah and Dawn is that Dawn was on some incredible teams, completely stacked and balanced. Dirty Deeds did mention her number of attempts, which is unreal, but Aaliyah doesn't have anyone else on this team capable of attracting blockers. Our middles get disrespected because the blockers just camp out with Aaliyah and we just can't capitalize in the middle the way we need to.
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The thing I will say as it relates to Aaliyah and Dawn is that Dawn was on some incredible teams, completely stacked and balanced. Dirty Deeds did mention her number of attempts, which is unreal, but Aaliyah doesn't have anyone else on this team capable of attracting blockers. Our middles get disrespected because the blockers just camp out with Aaliyah and we just can't capitalize in the middle the way we need to.
.......and we pass like crap.
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The thing I will say as it relates to Aaliyah and Dawn is that Dawn was on some incredible teams, completely stacked and balanced. Dirty Deeds did mention her number of attempts, which is unreal, but Aaliyah doesn't have anyone else on this team capable of attracting blockers. Our middles get disrespected because the blockers just camp out with Aaliyah and we just can't capitalize in the middle the way we need to.
.......and we pass like crap.
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A skill Carter also really needs to work on...
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The thing I will say as it relates to Aaliyah and Dawn is that Dawn was on some incredible teams, completely stacked and balanced. Dirty Deeds did mention her number of attempts, which is unreal, but Aaliyah doesn't have anyone else on this team capable of attracting blockers. Our middles get disrespected because the blockers just camp out with Aaliyah and we just can't capitalize in the middle the way we need to.
.......and we pass like crap.
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A skill Carter also really needs to work on...
The most difficult skill in the game by far.
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The University of Kansas SHOCKED Oregon AND the world by winning in straight sets today in impressive fashion :gocho:
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The University of Kansas SHOCKED Oregon AND the world by winning in straight sets today in impressive fashion :gocho:
Intriguing matchup with one of the best Kansas athletes of all time Kendra Wait and her Creighton Bluejays up next.
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Woof, that was brutal, we need to go in a new direction. That second set was simply awful.
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I don't follow it closely enough to say if it's a joke or not that they made the NCAA tourney.
But they lost 5 straight matches to end the season.
So on the surface, it does seem like kind of a joke that they were in the NCAA tourney with a .375 conference winning %
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In women's sports the selection committees pretty much just select the tournaments based on RPI and based on that they belonged. Anyone with eyes would have thought this was not an at large tournament team.
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Makes sense.
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Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
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Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
KU doing it with Kansas kids who had KSU bloodlines. Embarrassing
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Plenty of room on the KU S16 bandwagon, if y'all wanna hop on.
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Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
KU doing it with Kansas kids who had KSU bloodlines. Embarrassing
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Did we recruit them?
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Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
KU doing it with Kansas kids who had KSU bloodlines. Embarrassing
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Did we recruit them?
I'd hope so since everyone else did. Bien & Crawford decided they'd stay home, which ended up being KU. The real jewel is lightly recruited setter Cam Turner from Topeka Seaman. You could already argue that she's the best setter in the conference. She just took over the job 3 weeks ago. If you get a chance to watch their Sweet 16 match do it. She's a special player. Stupid athletic
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Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
KU doing it with Kansas kids who had KSU bloodlines. Embarrassing
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I have several close friends very much ITK relative to MW VB. Just some huge misses and unfavorable experiences with K-State in the process.
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In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
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In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
There are some volleyball only facilities but not a ton. Most stand alone facilities are converted old basketball facilities. KU actually has one of the most notable stand alone facilities specifically built for volleyball. It's notable in that it's their second one. Their first volleyball only facility was built in the 90's, their latest one is just two years old. I haven't seen it so I can't speak to how nice it is. I do know it was built in 8 months which, to me, gives up real pole barn vibes which is what their first building essentially was.
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In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
There are some volleyball only facilities but not a ton. Most stand alone facilities are converted old basketball facilities. KU actually has one of the most notable stand alone facilities specifically built for volleyball. It's notable in that it's their second one. Their first volleyball only facility was built in the 90's, their latest one is just two years old. I haven't seen it so I can't speak to how nice it is. I do know it was built in 8 months which, to me, gives up real pole barn vibes which is what their first building essentially was.
I've probably been in around 30 DI facilities across the country and our new home should comfortably put us in the top 25.
Having said that, to MIR's point, probably half of the D1 facilities across the country are complete crap. Of the other half, most are playing in either current b-ball primary arenas or old arenas no longer in use for b-ball that have been converted for VB. I'm sure it's not as bad as it was in the past, but Mississippi State played their matches in a rodeo arena that had a dirt floor. It would be the equivalent of K-State playing in the Ag school's Weber Arena.
Why does that matter? While Ahearn certainly wasn't in the top 25 facilities-wise, it was no excuse for Suzie to suck at her job. There are top 25 programs with worse facilities than Ahearn and it shouldn't have been allowed to be her crux for being bad at her job for the better part of the past decade.
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In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
There are some volleyball only facilities but not a ton. Most stand alone facilities are converted old basketball facilities. KU actually has one of the most notable stand alone facilities specifically built for volleyball. It's notable in that it's their second one. Their first volleyball only facility was built in the 90's, their latest one is just two years old. I haven't seen it so I can't speak to how nice it is. I do know it was built in 8 months which, to me, gives up real pole barn vibes which is what their first building essentially was.
I've probably been in around 30 DI facilities across the country and our new home should comfortably put us in the top 25.
Having said that, to MIR's point, probably half of the D1 facilities across the country are complete crap. Of the other half, most are playing in either current b-ball primary arenas or old arenas no longer in use for b-ball that have been converted for VB. I'm sure it's not as bad as it was in the past, but Mississippi State played their matches in a rodeo arena that had a dirt floor. It would be the equivalent of K-State playing in the Ag school's Weber Arena.
Why does that matter? While Ahearn certainly wasn't in the top 25 facilities-wise, it was no excuse for Suzie to suck at her job. There are top 25 programs with worse facilities than Ahearn and it shouldn't have been allowed to be her crux for being bad at her job for the better part of the past decade.
From what I've heard too, Suzie chose Ahearn as opposed to Bramlage.
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In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
There are some volleyball only facilities but not a ton. Most stand alone facilities are converted old basketball facilities. KU actually has one of the most notable stand alone facilities specifically built for volleyball. It's notable in that it's their second one. Their first volleyball only facility was built in the 90's, their latest one is just two years old. I haven't seen it so I can't speak to how nice it is. I do know it was built in 8 months which, to me, gives up real pole barn vibes which is what their first building essentially was.
I've probably been in around 30 DI facilities across the country and our new home should comfortably put us in the top 25.
Having said that, to MIR's point, probably half of the D1 facilities across the country are complete crap. Of the other half, most are playing in either current b-ball primary arenas or old arenas no longer in use for b-ball that have been converted for VB. I'm sure it's not as bad as it was in the past, but Mississippi State played their matches in a rodeo arena that had a dirt floor. It would be the equivalent of K-State playing in the Ag school's Weber Arena.
Why does that matter? While Ahearn certainly wasn't in the top 25 facilities-wise, it was no excuse for Suzie to suck at her job. There are top 25 programs with worse facilities than Ahearn and it shouldn't have been allowed to be her crux for being bad at her job for the better part of the past decade.
From what I've heard too, Suzie chose Ahearn as opposed to Bramlage.
It was actually quite unique. Yeah, not having AC wasn't great, but playing in that weirdo configuration actually gave them a bit of a competitive advantage. Maybe not a huge advantage, but one nevertheless. One college coach told me it was the most unique setting for college VB they had been in (and they meant it in a good way). Amenities aside, it's a lot better than playing in a 12k arena with 1,000 fans that feels incredibly empty/sterile.
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I enjoyed going to vb games at Ahearn.. Bramlage two thumbs down for vb
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There will be zero excuses related to facilities once they're in the new building.
It will be top notch in every respect and with access to the Olympic training facility right next door, and the training table just across the parking lot in the WSC. K-State will have one of the best facilities experiences for VB in the country.
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I enjoyed going to vb games at Ahearn.. Bramlage two thumbs down for vb
I agree but if there were complaints about Ahearn, she had other options. The new facility will clearly be light years beyond either though.
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I enjoyed going to vb games at Ahearn.. Bramlage two thumbs down for vb
I agree but if there were complaints about Ahearn, she had other options. The new facility will clearly be light years beyond either though.
I hope we are looking @ Creighton's DJamer Sokol Arena as a blueprint. Something similar would be perfect.
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So her seat is incredibly hot once that facility is done right?
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This place isn't too shabby either.
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This place isn't too shabby either.
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Yeah - that place is kind of what Ahearn could have been had they actually made an effort. It's weird as hell, but in an endearing kind of way. And, it's loud as hell too.
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So her seat is incredibly hot once that facility is done right?
We have coaches in women's b-ball, both golf programs and soccer who have demonstrated they suck and are still around (in some cases, for 20+ years). Then, arguably, we have coaches in men's b-ball and rowing (a thankless job if ever there was one) who coulda/woulda/shoulda been let go too.
So, who knows. K-State is one of the few schools in the country that apparently believes in tenure for its Olympic sport coaches regardless of their performance.
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https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/1468706435395731462
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
I will be interested to see how things go once OU and Texas leave. The conference will be tough, but I think it opens it up at the top in many sports.
For football, it's very possible we will have an autobid into the CFP by that time as well. Which means we could be competing within our division with the likes of Texas Tech, OSU, BYU, Baylor and TCU play for a chance at the CFP yearly.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
It should be a tremendous help in recruiting the next volleyball coach.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
I agree with all of this
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
I agree with all of this
Me too and it's time to bring Dawn home.
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Texas is about to saddle Washington with an all time choke job.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
That is obviously wrong. Gene and his friends are winning $$ daily. I also imagine the GC and subs who build this crap are also likely feeling like winners as well.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
That is obviously wrong. Gene and his friends are winning $$ daily. I also imagine the GC and subs who build this crap are also likely feeling like winners as well.
I promise you that Gene cares about this as much as you and most K-Stater. The mediocrity isn't intentional, just gross ineffectiveness.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
That is obviously wrong. Gene and his friends are winning $$ daily. I also imagine the GC and subs who build this crap are also likely feeling like winners as well.
I promise you that Gene cares about this as much as you and most K-Stater. The mediocrity isn't intentional, just gross ineffectiveness.
^^^^^^
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
I agree with all of this
Me too and it's time to bring Dawn home.
Dawn?
I know I should know this.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
That is obviously wrong. Gene and his friends are winning $$ daily. I also imagine the GC and subs who build this crap are also likely feeling like winners as well.
MIR may be right. I don't know.
My mindset is: Don't show me social media pictures of coaches hopping on private jets to go recruit, don't show me another coach doing a walking tour of their shiny new facilities and offices . . . and still have people acting (and that's some people closely associated with K-State) like we don't have a pisser to piss in.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
I agree with all of this
Me too and it's time to bring Dawn home.
Dawn?
I know I should know this.
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Gonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?
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Gonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?
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I'd guess their experience would be a huge advantage over Pitt & Louisville but all 4 have looked very strong. Purdue is no joke & Pitt mauled them. Lekotor is a blast to watch.
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At least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
I agree with all of this
Me too and it's time to bring Dawn home.
Dawn?
I know I should know this.
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Oh yeah, sign me up.
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At least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.
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Yeah the portal is a fact of life for everyone, we don't have to act surprised about it anymore. I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
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At least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.
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I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
I think Mati, the girl from Italy is the other one
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At least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.
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I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
I think Mati, the girl from Italy is the other one
If that's the case it's 3 & counting. Suzi, stay out of KC, the word is out. Too bad, that kid can straight ball.
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Freshman DS who should have been starting over Smith?
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At least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.
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I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
I think Mati, the girl from Italy is the other one
If that's the case it's 3 & counting. Suzi, stay out of KC, the word is out. Too bad, that kid can straight ball.
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Why do you keep referring to the other transfer as a done deal but won't say who it is?
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At least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.
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I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
I think Mati, the girl from Italy is the other one
If that's the case it's 3 & counting. Suzi, stay out of KC, the word is out. Too bad, that kid can straight ball.
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Why do you keep referring to the other transfer as a done deal but won't say who it is?
Because I can't
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So that means she isn't in the portal yet.
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So that means she isn't in the portal yet.
She's in the portal, there's a several day lag before it's public
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So are you insinuating this player is in the portal but hasn't informed the coaches yet?
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She's in the portal and the coaches are aware. Many players don't advertise it while they are talking to other schools. I believe you have to be NCAA affiliated to access the portal.
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Think I’m more excited for vb tonight than the chiefs game
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Gonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?
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1 for 1.
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Was a great game and honestly probably could’ve/should’ve been the National title game
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I need pitt to finish off this comeback.
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Nebraska volleyball and baseball are the sports I can in good faith cheer for here so GBR!
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Gonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?
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1 for 1.
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And Wisconsin is the National champ unless they fall flat on their 6 foot 9 cheese faces
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Gonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?
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1 for 1.
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And Wisconsin is the National champ unless they fall flat on their 6 foot 9 cheese faces
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20 kills on 27 attempts with 1 error, .704. Not fair
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The service errors were infuriating to watch by them last night. Also UL is a really really really good team.
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Also 2 kids from KS that made an impact for them last night
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Also 2 kids from KS that made an impact for them last night
But of course
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The service errors were infuriating to watch by them last night. Also UL is a really really really good team.
they were so infuriating
damn it
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I might service error your face and see if you like it
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srs bro
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Infuriating
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People have been asking for my thoughts on this, and the only adjective I can come up with to describe my feelings is "Vesuvian."
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Nebraska volleyball and baseball are the sports I can in good faith cheer for here so GBR!
I think I hate the army of blue haired Nebraska volleyball fans as much as I hate their fat drunk football fans. They feel the need to try to explain the game to other fans, as if it's some crap specific to Nebraska, like Runza.
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Well, I still like it
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Nebraska volleyball and baseball are the sports I can in good faith cheer for here so GBR!
I think I hate the army of blue haired Nebraska volleyball fans as much as I hate their fat drunk football fans. They feel the need to try to explain the game to other fans, as if it's some crap specific to Nebraska, like Runza.
Lol
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Soo happy Nebraska lost
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Although #6 on Nebraska lookout now
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Jaden Ravnsborg to Arizona St
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Is that who you've been sitting on? She's a freshman behind a sophomore who if she
waited wanted could take another year of eligibility. It didn't appear as if Ravnsborg was ever going to play significant time here. Good for her for landing at a power conference program. I'm assuming they recruited her out of high school
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Is that who you've been sitting on? She's a freshman behind a sophomore who if she waited could take another year of eligibility. It didn't appear as if Ravnsborg was ever going to play significant time here. Good for her for landing at a power conference program. I'm assuming they recruited her out of high school
Yeah, she had a ton of options out of HS as well as the portal. Very talented kid.
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Missouri State
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K-State is going to have to hire an assistant coach. Sorensen took a job at SMU as associate head coach.
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https://twitter.com/KStateVB/status/1505922189379313670
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VB kicks off their non con schedule on Friday. Interesting roster this year. 1 setter a she's a true frosh. Find another P5 in that situation. Student manager sets the other side in practice?
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hopefully we don't suck too bad
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Unless that freshman setter is a wunderkind (was ranked around No. 100 in her class) and someone steps up at OH2... it's going to be a long year - even with, arguably, one of the top 10 players in school history at OH1. Looks like the St. Mary's transfer will get the first shot at the OH2 based on the preseason exhibition vs. Wayne State (a moderately good DII program that took us to five). Vs. Wayne State, Hinkle was the setter in the second game after the freshman started the match. They might have run a 5-2 - hard to say just based on the box score.
The non-conference looks like a cakewalk based on the names, but there are several mid-majors that are quality programs that could very well beat us (Sam Houston, FAMU, Loyola, North Florida, etc.). It's quite possible that we go 0-3 in our own tourney to start the year. But, it's Fritz, so who knows. Let the roller coaster begin...
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Only 13 players on the roster? They've carried up to 20 at times.
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Only 13 players on the roster? They've carried up to 20 at times.
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Only 12 scholarships, so 13-15 is a good range. After that, you could argue it's too many.
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Only 13 players on the roster? They've carried up to 20 at times.
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Only 12 scholarships, so 13-15 is a good range. After that, you could argue it's too many.
KU carries 19, Iowa St 20......13-15 hasn't been "normal" for years. Many athletes will take "earn it" opportunities at P5 schools to be part of something potentially special.
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Only 13 players on the roster? They've carried up to 20 at times.
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Only 12 scholarships, so 13-15 is a good range. After that, you could argue it's too many.
KU carries 19, Iowa St 20......13-15 hasn't been "normal" for years. Many athletes will take "earn it" opportunities at P5 schools to be part of something potentially special.
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Roster size fight!
Nebraska - the preseason No. 1 team in the country - has 14 on its roster.
12, 13, 15, 20 - who cares? Fritz has a bunch of problems with her program and the number of walk-ons isn't remotely close to being at the top of the list.
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The starting setter from last year quit…pretty late. She trained in the spring. Freshman setter should be good but how soon. They have Hinkle as the backup. I think they should run a 5-1 with the freshman but who knows
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Went with Hinkle and the 5-1 and pretty easily beat Sam Houston 3-0 (one of three was close). Pretty solid distribution of swings/kills as well. Hopefully that'll continue tonight against NC State (they swept FAMU this morning).
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Guys! Hinkle was awesome! Fernholtz, Baka, and Boulding gave enough balance so they couldn't cheat on Aliyah. Every time they did we made them pay. NCSU is far from the best team we'll play, but that was promising.
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Why isn’t volleyball more popular, especially women’s? It has it all.
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Did our volleyball coach screw over one of dirty deeds' kids or something?
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Did our volleyball coach screw over one of dirty deeds' kids or something?
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Why isn’t volleyball more popular, especially women’s? It has it all.
It's an amazing ballet when executed correctly.
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Did our volleyball coach screw over one of dirty deeds' kids or something?
Cat VB is playing a ridiculously soft pre season schedule for a P5. MIR weigh in?
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It's about what it normally is when we don't get invited to one of those tournaments we have no business in with a top 10 Big 10 team, a top 10 Pac 12 team, and either Hawaii or a top 25 SEC team. I'm glad Suzie had the foresight this year not to do that.
I think she's determined that we can get in the tournament near or sightly below .500 so she determined that she wasn't going to let us get brained in the noncon. I also think she was anticipating playing a freshman setter.
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I mentioned this before, but the schedule is deceptively not soft. If you look at the names, one would think it's cake, but it isn't. FAMU, UCF, Creighton and Rice all made NCAAs last year. UCF was a hair away from beating UCLA to make the Sweet 16 and Creighton was a top 16 overall seed. NC State was receiving votes in the preseason poll. The rest of the opponents aren't "name" schools, but are all respectable, 20-wins a year type of programs (if not from Power 5 conferences). The exceptions are actually two of the "name" schools - Mizzou and Rutgers were both absolutely terrible last year.
If Fritz can go 9-4 or 10-3 with this non-conference and then be at/close to .500 in league play, she will absolutely get another NCAA bid (especially if they can beat Creighton and UCF).
Will that happen? Who knows - it's a Fritz team, so I'm sure we'll lose several we shouldn't and sneak in an unexpected win or two.
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I can't believe NCSU received votes, they stink. FAMU looked as booty as one would think. Volleyball polls are utterly useless.
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I can't believe NCSU received votes, they stink. FAMU looked as booty as one would think. Volleyball polls are utterly useless.
I wouldn't go quite that far, but the poll certainly skews toward historical performance/stature. Rice and UCF are both receiving votes in the first regular season poll and Creighton is No. 17. Cats will also play Texas (No. 1), Baylor (No. 9) and KU (No. 20).
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I've thought they were useless for a very long time. It's really tough to see matches, they just don't have the availability. With men's and women's basketball, they play more games but there are enough of them televised and spread out throughout the week where you can see plenty of matches. There were no matches on ESPN+ yesterday. Today has a good amount but there's only 5 on Thursday and 7 on Friday. This gets worse when conference play starts. It's just too difficult to watch enough teams and matches to have a clue as to what the best 25 are. I think the RPI is flawed, but once it's running it's a better indicator of where the teams should be.
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I've thought they were useless for a very long time. It's really tough to see matches, they just don't have the availability. With men's and women's basketball, they play more games but there are enough of them televised and spread out throughout the week where you can see plenty of matches. There were no matches on ESPN+ yesterday. Today has a good amount but there's only 5 on Thursday and 7 on Friday. This gets worse when conference play starts. It's just too difficult to watch enough teams and matches to have a clue as to what the best 25 are. I think the RPI is flawed, but once it's running it's a better indicator of where the teams should be.
https://www.jconline.com/story/sports/2022/04/18/purdues-shondell-asks-why-volleyball-doesnt-receive-more-exposure/9532406002/
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I've thought they were useless for a very long time. It's really tough to see matches, they just don't have the availability. With men's and women's basketball, they play more games but there are enough of them televised and spread out throughout the week where you can see plenty of matches. There were no matches on ESPN+ yesterday. Today has a good amount but there's only 5 on Thursday and 7 on Friday. This gets worse when conference play starts. It's just too difficult to watch enough teams and matches to have a clue as to what the best 25 are. I think the RPI is flawed, but once it's running it's a better indicator of where the teams should be.
That's true for the general public, but the coaches can (and do) pretty much get video of whatever they want. Because of the club system, most coaches are also acutely aware of the best players in the country, which informs how they vote - especially early in the year. To be certain, there are coaches who vote that don't take that poll terribly seriously. But there are also plenty of coaches who do - for the very reasons you shared - they understand the importance of the poll being a tool that's reflective of the current state of volleyball given that both the number of fans are limited as well as the ability of fans to access matches. I'm not going to say it never does/has never happened, but from my experiences, I'd find it much more unlikely that the crap you see with the football/b-ball coaches poll (SIDs/managers filling it out for coaches, etc.) also happens in volleyball - certainly not to the same degree.
Again, not saying that the poll is flawless, but I'd put more value on the VB poll than football or basketball - mostly because the coaches take it more seriously and accept it as a relatively important responsibility.
As for the RPI, it is what it is - though I imagine the true VB geeks would argue that Pablo/Rich Kern are better. Right now, they've got K-State projected to finish in the low 40s based on their win probability formula (definitely a bit early for it to have a ton of validity).
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Also worth pointing out that Pablo/RichKern has K-State's strength of schedule projected at No. 15 in the country (though that will obviously fluctuate depending on how the season goes).
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Beat a not-very-good Syracuse team 3-1 yesterday - from the box score, the OHs were on fire and there were very few swings for everyone else.
Face a tougher-than-it-looks North Florida team today that had No. 13 Florida on the ropes last week. Then, a top 30ish UCF team tomorrow - should be the best barometer of the potential for this team so far in the season.
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Beat a not-very-good Syracuse team 3-1 yesterday - from the box score, the OHs were on fire and there were very few swings for everyone else.
Face a tougher-than-it-looks North Florida team today that had No. 13 Florida on the ropes last week. Then, a top 30ish UCF team tomorrow - should be the best barometer of the potential for this team so far in the season.
Saint Thomas Aquinas would give Syracuse a game.
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Happy to see Dawn get a great win against KU this weekend. Grabbed the Texas setter out of the portal & they looked great. KU had been playing really well.
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Stop triggering me
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Stop triggering me
It's just such a no brainer.
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Stop triggering me
It's just such a no brainer.
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Maybe we can talk the 12 volleyball season tix holders into all emailing Mean Gene to let him know that K-State does, in fact, have former student-athletes in the coaching ranks. Then, he might avoid giving Fritz a Hughes-esque extension and then Dawn can finally come home (unlike Rob Vaughn).
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Stop triggering me
It's just such a no brainer.
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Maybe we can talk the 12 volleyball season tix holders into all emailing Mean Gene to let him know that K-State does, in fact, have former student-athletes in the coaching ranks. Then, he might avoid giving Fritz a Hughes-esque extension and then Dawn can finally come home (unlike Rob Vaughn).
You're correct. The Hughes contract should scare every KState VB fan. It's going to be a LONG season. They don't have any experience at the setter position and it got exposed against Loyola Chicago. 22 assists on 99 attempts vs 22 assists on 58 attempts. It's not Hinkle's fault. The frosh setter that transferred to Missouri St can't get on the floor there either. I don't believe Cat VB can be successful without a real connection to the KC club scene.
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After losing to both Rice and No. 17 Creighton this weekend, we finish the non-conference at 9-4. It's a pisser because we had a good chance at a quality win vs. Rice and blew a 2-0 lead. The passing continues to break down at various points in most of our matches and, when that happens, we lose the ability to use our middles most of the time and they've been the most efficient - by far - this year.
It's been a weird year - Carter has essentially been benched and hasn't played regularly for the last 2-3 weeks (and, to be fair to Fritz, Carter's numbers this year have been pretty bad in most matches). The frosh from Nebraska is hitting at a much, much better clip as Carter's replacement, but we are getting zero from the opposite hitters. When the passing breaks down, we're back to the OHs sending shots over that, most of the time, have no chance to land as kills.
Still, to be at 9-4 at this point given that our best player has regressed badly and we're playing a libero at setter is actually somewhat impressive. If Fritz can play .500 level ball in the Big 12, we should have a decent chance at an NCAA berth (though, as of now, we don't really have any high quality wins).
We're home against fringe top 25 KU on Saturday - will be insightful as to where we're likely headed the rest of the year.
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After losing to both Rice and No. 17 Creighton this weekend, we finish the non-conference at 9-4. It's a pisser because we had a good chance at a quality win vs. Rice and blew a 2-0 lead. The passing continues to break down at various points in most of our matches and, when that happens, we lose the ability to use our middles most of the time and they've been the most efficient - by far - this year.
It's been a weird year - Carter has essentially been benched and hasn't played regularly for the last 2-3 weeks (and, to be fair to Fritz, Carter's numbers this year have been pretty bad in most matches). The frosh from Nebraska is hitting at a much, much better clip as Carter's replacement, but we are getting zero from the opposite hitters. When the passing breaks down, we're back to the OHs sending shots over that, most of the time, have no chance to land as kills.
Still, to be at 9-4 at this point given that our best player has regressed badly and we're playing a libero at setter is actually somewhat impressive. If Fritz can play .500 level ball in the Big 12, we should have a decent chance at an NCAA berth (though, as of now, we don't really have any high quality wins).
We're home against fringe top 25 KU on Saturday - will be insightful as to where we're likely headed the rest of the year.
Crazy game where you can have all of the firepower in the world & it still always boils down to serve & pass. KU was rolling & now have hit the skids. Will be an interesting match for sure.
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Maybe they should move Carter to OPP
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Maybe they should move Carter to OPP
I think she's getting frustrated and not making good decisions caused by a whole bunch of out of system volleyball. It's a tough way to play the game. Not sure how a right handed OPP would fare in conference play.
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Maybe they should move Carter to OPP
I think she's getting frustrated and not making good decisions caused by a whole bunch of out of system volleyball. It's a tough way to play the game. Not sure how a right handed OPP would fare in conference play.
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Bingo
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Maybe they should move Carter to OPP
I think she's getting frustrated and not making good decisions caused by a whole bunch of out of system volleyball. It's a tough way to play the game. Not sure how a right handed OPP would fare in conference play.
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Bingo
I think there's truth to that, but it's not like there wasn't a bunch of out of system play last year too and she managed to overcome that (most of the time). Personally, I think there's something else going on (whatever that might be).
But, it all falls in line with a Fritz team - never know what the hell will happen in any given match (including the star player of the past two years not playing in favor of a lightly recruited freshman).
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Maybe they should move Carter to OPP
I think she's getting frustrated and not making good decisions caused by a whole bunch of out of system volleyball. It's a tough way to play the game. Not sure how a right handed OPP would fare in conference play.
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Bingo
I think there's truth to that, but it's not like there wasn't a bunch of out of system play last year too and she managed to overcome that (most of the time). Personally, I think there's something else going on (whatever that might be).
But, it all falls in line with a Fritz team - never know what the hell will happen in any given match (including the star player of the past two years not playing in favor of a lightly recruited freshman).
I have a theory but I don't want to say it. I'll use this as a placeholder though.
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Culture
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https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1573341576864190465?s=46&t=hBkv4bszlaOqhORBqc6Txg
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Those are fantastic, give credit to Suzie for not letting Nike outfit us in those detached sleeve horrors they have everyone else in.
Where's Aliyah in those photos?
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https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1573341576864190465?s=46&t=hBkv4bszlaOqhORBqc6Txg
certified
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Those are fantastic, give credit to Suzie for not letting Nike outfit us in those detached sleeve horrors they have everyone else in.
Where's Aliyah in those photos?
Probably skipped the photo session to work on her inevitable transfer...
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She's in this video :thumbs:
https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1573384676043014144
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down 2-1 to the hawks :runaway:
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Does Sue get a season in the new arena?
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Sue doesn't have a wikipedia page.
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Might be time to create one
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Jesus Christ :flush:
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Jesus Christ :flush:
What? Being swept by Tech?
I'd argue that wasn't too surprising (Tech's probably an NCAA team this year - bubble for sure). If/when we lose vs. Iowa State and WVU in the next week, that'll definitely be worth a "well, there's always next year..." (except it's Fritz, so not really).
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Jesus Christ :flush:
What? Being swept by Tech?
I'd argue that wasn't too surprising (Tech's probably an NCAA team this year - bubble for sure). If/when we lose vs. Iowa State and WVU in the next week, that'll definitely be worth a "well, there's always next year..." (except it's Fritz, so not really).
The fact that you're cool with getting swept by a team that came off back to back 5 setters against West Virginia and Texas Rio Grande Valley, who lost, 3-1, to Oral Roberts, is all we need to know about the state of this program. We're probably the worst program in the conference.
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Jesus Christ :flush:
What? Being swept by Tech?
I'd argue that wasn't too surprising (Tech's probably an NCAA team this year - bubble for sure). If/when we lose vs. Iowa State and WVU in the next week, that'll definitely be worth a "well, there's always next year..." (except it's Fritz, so not really).
The fact that you're cool with getting swept by a team that came off back to back 5 setters against West Virginia and Texas Rio Grande Valley, who lost, 3-1, to Oral Roberts, is all we need to know about the state of this program. We're probably the worst program in the conference.
Didn't say I was cool with it, but it was on the road against a team that will make and/or be close to making NCAAs (they made it last year). Fritz has been mostly losing those types of matches for most of the past decade.
I wouldn't say we're the worst program (especially given the upcoming new facilities), but that's certainly a potential reality in a few years if Mean Gene won't dump Fritz. And, considering the extension/raise he just gave Hughes for a .360 league record after 4 years and zero finishes better than 7th in the Big 12, it's hard to see him getting rid of Fritz anytime soon.
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Hardly any production on the RS. They started Carter there against Tech and sub Warner back in after 9 swings. If they want Carter to stay at the position, they shouldn't sub her out. Also, I think the freshman setter should be playing more.
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Warner is hitting .120 on the year and has hit above .200 in 4 of 13 matches. Since the Mizzou match nearly a month ago - easily her best of the year - she's hit .000 or negative in four of seven matches, which is just inexplicable. I'm sure Fritz expected more out of a top 25 national recruit, though we're probably seeing why she barely played at Florida.
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Warner is hitting .120 on the year and has hit above .200 in 4 of 13 matches. Since the Mizzou match nearly a month ago - easily her best of the year - she's hit .000 or negative in four of seven matches, which is just inexplicable. I'm sure Fritz expected more out of a top 25 national recruit, though we're probably seeing why she barely played at Florida.
I'd focus on 1st & 2nd contact on this team before any attackers hitting %.
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Warner is hitting .120 on the year and has hit above .200 in 4 of 13 matches. Since the Mizzou match nearly a month ago - easily her best of the year - she's hit .000 or negative in four of seven matches, which is just inexplicable. I'm sure Fritz expected more out of a top 25 national recruit, though we're probably seeing why she barely played at Florida.
I'd focus on 1st & 2nd contact on this team before any attackers hitting %.
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That's fair, but at some point, you've got to at least put a few down...
I only saw the third set in the sweep of ISU yesterday and the passing in that game alone went from okay in the first 5 minutes of the set to beyond awful for the next 5-10 minutes and then back to somewhere between acceptable and good for the last 5 minutes. Still, the passing was good enough to at least get Bolding/Fernholz some swings. And Myers had another solid match. 11 aces in three sets - not too shabby.
Looks like they tried out the freshman from Turkey on the right side for the first two sets and then went back to Warner for the last part of the second and the third (and, of course, she hit .000 on eight swings with two kills).
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Big W against WV, clean sweep against a team that lost to South Dakota. No shame, SD is solid. Still crazy to me that Carter has been shuffled to the bottom of the deck. Not certain but I think Carter was a frosh All American?
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Conference freshman of the year
Region freshman of the year
2x unanimous 1st team all big 12
2x 1st team all region
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Full Suzie Fritz experience this week - up 2-0 on medicore TCU at home and lose 2-3 with a completely uncompetitive/give-up game 5. Four days later, down 0-2 on the road against a bad Oklahoma team and win 3-2 in a grind-it-out 15-13 game 5 in which we were down 4 points early and could have easily given up (again).
Suzie is rotating in all 3 OHs at this point - seemingly going with whichever two are playing the best at any particiular time (Carter had one of her better matches of the year tonight).
Odds would favor us losing our next four (Baylor, Texas, KU, ISU), which will probably eliminate our chances of making the tourney and leave us likely to finish no better than 7-9 in league play.
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A struggling KU team brooms KState & keeps their tourney hopes alive with their strong RPI.
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You're god damned right we did. Cowards!
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I went to the UT match on Friday and it's stunning how badly Aliyah is broken. She his hit way more roll shots than swings and when she did swing she had no power at all. It's the damnedest thing. Also we stink.
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They really struggle passing to a DS that's setting. Pretty much sums it up. Suzie has several pieces that will get lots of attention in the portal.
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https://kstatesports.com/news/2022/11/27/k-state-announces-change-in-volleyball-leadership.aspx
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How hard will it be to get them competing at the top of the conference? Who will Gene hire?
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How hard will it be to get them competing at the top of the conference? Who will Gene hire?
Gene should be in Vermillion SD TODAY.
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Just go hire someone from Wisconsin
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Just go hire someone from Wisconsin
Well the South Dakota coach is from Wisconsin.
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There you go
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It's Dawn Sullivan or bust.
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Gene, you beautiful sonuvagun!
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Mizzou staff has also been canned.
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It was time. Beyond time
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pick wisely
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How hard will it be to get them competing at the top of the conference? Who will Gene hire?
Gene should be in Vermillion SD TODAY.
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The eff he should.
Sandstone, it will be very easy to win here, enough to have us in the tournament every year and in the mix for a conference championship once every four or five years. Iowa State and Baylor are two cases of programs who hired the right coach and nearly immediately became great programs from far lower than where we are now.
Dawn built UNLV to a top 25 program in two damn years. They had never even been to the NCAA tournament before she got there.
This is very easy, we better not eff it up.
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glad to see fritz got canned. gene continues to show me that while he doesn’t move as fast as we may want him to, he is paying attention.
the hughes thing is a giant wtf but college baseball is stupid anyway.
hopefully the soccer coach is next to go, i’ve determined that dude has had his chance and failed
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How hard will it be to get them competing at the top of the conference? Who will Gene hire?
Gene should be in Vermillion SD TODAY.
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The eff he should.
Sandstone, it will be very easy to win here, enough to have us in the tournament every year and in the mix for a conference championship once every four or five years. Iowa State and Baylor are two cases of programs who hired the right coach and nearly immediately became great programs from far lower than where we are now.
Dawn built UNLV to a top 25 program in two damn years. They had never even been to the NCAA tournament before she got there.
This is very easy, we better not eff it up.
Leanne Williamson from SD has recruited Iowa & Nebraska very well for a long time, now she's added Kansas. She's obviously a very good recruiter. Along with Dawn she'd be an amazing hire.
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How hard will it be to get them competing at the top of the conference? Who will Gene hire?
Gene should be in Vermillion SD TODAY.
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The eff he should.
Sandstone, it will be very easy to win here, enough to have us in the tournament every year and in the mix for a conference championship once every four or five years. Iowa State and Baylor are two cases of programs who hired the right coach and nearly immediately became great programs from far lower than where we are now.
Dawn built UNLV to a top 25 program in two damn years. They had never even been to the NCAA tournament before she got there.
This is very easy, we better not eff it up.
Leanne Williamson from SD has recruited Iowa & Nebraska very well for a long time, now she's added Kansas. She's obviously a very good recruiter. Along with Dawn she'd be an amazing hire.
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Plan B, the Nebraska assistant as plan C
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I just want 4 sports to be really good. The two obvious one's and V-ball and baseball.
That keeps the K-State name in the news the entire academic year from fall to summer.
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Post it, KK.
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/k-state-refutes-that-fritz-was-fired-by-text/article_e889d3c2-a74a-5cbc-b182-139247d37076.html
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I just want 4 sports to be really good. The two obvious one's and V-ball and baseball.
That keeps the K-State name in the news the entire academic year from fall to summer.
1000% this. Would swap track for either one but the 4 dax mentions are the perfect combo and would have me very happy.
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Post it, KK.
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/k-state-refutes-that-fritz-was-fired-by-text/article_e889d3c2-a74a-5cbc-b182-139247d37076.html
lol that Everson "reported" this and Ned put it behind a paywall. Here is the entire article
Kansas State has denied allegations from former players that former Wildcat volleyball coach Suzie Fritz was fired by athletics director Gene Taylor via text message.
Taylor and the department announced the dismissal in a press release put out Sunday morning.
Sidenote, you can use a site called archive.ph to read paywalled articles
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dang Gene is savage
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Post it, KK.
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/k-state-refutes-that-fritz-was-fired-by-text/article_e889d3c2-a74a-5cbc-b182-139247d37076.html
lol that Everson "reported" this and Ned put it behind a paywall. Here is the entire article
Kansas State has denied allegations from former players that former Wildcat volleyball coach Suzie Fritz was fired by athletics director Gene Taylor via text message.
Taylor and the department announced the dismissal in a press release put out Sunday morning.
Sidenote, you can use a site called archive.ph to read paywalled articles
Both that archive.ph and the 12ft.io haven't worked for a while on mercury articles; it always just gives the first couple lines of the article you have here. But we have @Kat Kid to get us our fix.
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Considering Klieman’s success, and the early showing by Tang, if Gene can nab Sullivan. He’ll really be proving himself as a home run hitter with these coaching hires.
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dang Gene is savage
There's no way he fired her via text message.
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Considering Klieman’s success, and the early showing by Tang, if Gene can nab Sullivan. He’ll really be proving himself as a home run hitter with these coaching hires.
Real being real, the only one of these that takes any real foresight was Tang, the other two are really obvious and would take some real incompetence to fumble.
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Similar to what Dax said, if we could just be competitive in half of our sports, I would take that at this point (competitive to me being defined as making a sport's version of the NCAA tourney most years and occasionally competing for a Big 12 title). That's really not too much to ask and we have peer programs that accomplish this regularly.
Right now, we're clearly in the bottom half of the league in soccer (Dib just needs 4-5 more years), volleyball, baseball, women's golf, tennis and rowing. Track has also been slipping from Rovelto's typical output.
I still don't understand why 5 years isn't enough to determine that a coach can't meet the aforementioned competitive baseline and then move on if they can't. Coaches are proving in virtually every sport that you can take a doormat and turn them into a contender in 2-3 years.
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my sources are saying that gene fired suzie via a tiktok video where he danced to the hit beyoncé song irreplaceable
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Hope it’s Dawn #WintheDawnDay
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Hope it’s Dawn #WintheDawnDay
UNLV will *probably* lose tomorrow night to Wazzu. If they don't, then they'll very likely lose to San Diego on Saturday. So, would be great for Mean Gene to have this thing wrapped up by the end of the weekend.
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Hope it’s Dawn #WintheDawnDay
UNLV will *probably* lose tomorrow night to Wazzu. If they don't, then they'll very likely lose to San Diego on Saturday. So, would be great for Mean Gene to have this thing wrapped up by the end of the weekend.
She isn't the target.
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Hope it’s Dawn #WintheDawnDay
UNLV will *probably* lose tomorrow night to Wazzu. If they don't, then they'll very likely lose to San Diego on Saturday. So, would be great for Mean Gene to have this thing wrapped up by the end of the weekend.
She isn't the target.
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So the SD coach? Thought it was Sullivan
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Hope it’s Dawn #WintheDawnDay
UNLV will *probably* lose tomorrow night to Wazzu. If they don't, then they'll very likely lose to San Diego on Saturday. So, would be great for Mean Gene to have this thing wrapped up by the end of the weekend.
She isn't the target.
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If that's true, that's unfortunate.
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Hope it’s Dawn #WintheDawnDay
UNLV will *probably* lose tomorrow night to Wazzu. If they don't, then they'll very likely lose to San Diego on Saturday. So, would be great for Mean Gene to have this thing wrapped up by the end of the weekend.
She isn't the target.
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If that's true, that's unfortunate.
I'm hearing different things from different sources, which is probably good. Remember, Gene did the same thing with the football hire. He didn't just go yolo with Klieman, he did interview other people. It's very possible that candidates that are playing this weekend haven't been interviewed yet.
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Excitement around vb again :Woot:
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my wife and daughter are going to the NU first round game tomorrow. tough ticket to get irl.
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:Yuck:
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my wife and daughter are going to the NU first round game tomorrow. tough ticket to get irl.
they play the squawks!
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Your wife & daughter got to see a helluva match!!
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Your wife & daughter got to see a helluva match!!
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Yes!
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:horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
Believe it or not but this play by Houston used to be considered illegal and would have been blown dead the second the libero even reached over the table. Absolutely sick rally though.
https://twitter.com/SickosCommittee/status/1598858288644251648
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I'm exhausted just watching that.
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:horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
Believe it or not but this play by Houston used to be considered illegal and would have been blown dead the second the libero even reached over the table. Absolutely sick rally though.
https://twitter.com/SickosCommittee/status/1598858288644251648
It was an incredible match. Unfortunate for SD to lose the NCAA leader in kills to injury in the 4th set after losing their starting setter 3 weeks ago. Great year for the Yotes.
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:horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
Believe it or not but this play by Houston used to be considered illegal and would have been blown dead the second the libero even reached over the table. Absolutely sick rally though.
https://twitter.com/SickosCommittee/status/1598858288644251648
It was an incredible match. Unfortunate for SD to lose the NCAA leader in kills to injury in the 4th set after losing their starting setter 3 weeks ago. Great year for the Yotes.
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I watched on my second screen, it was exciting
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https://twitter.com/mizzouathletics/status/1604647203678474240
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Not good, not good at all. We better hope Gene is able to pull off getting David Hunt from UT otherwise, this is bad, this is very bad.
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Preparing for the volleyball equivalent of Pete Hughes...
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I will say, there are several coaches that have a similar profile as Dawn, but none of them were alumni. I built her up because I've wanted her here for so long, then she went and won at UNLV, confirming what I thought. There are hires that can be made that can excite, let's hope Gene gets it done, we should know within the next 48 hours.
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I will say, there are several coaches that have a similar profile as Dawn, but none of them were alumni. I built her up because I've wanted her here for so long, then she went and won at UNLV, confirming what I thought. There are hires that can be made that can excite, let's hope Gene gets it done, we should know within the next 48 hours.
Pretty easy choice for the Mizzou AD to hire the same Head VB coach twice!!
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I assume the "Fired Coach Now Available" batsignal was sent straight to Mean Gene's office...
https://mgoblue.com/sports/womens-volleyball/roster/coaches/mark-rosen/5723
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https://gobuffsgo.com/sports/womens-volleyball/roster/coaches/kendra-potts/2205
Potential candidate…just won D2 tournament
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No
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You would hope we can do better, what’s the hold up? OU just named their coach in 2 weeks time.
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You would hope we can do better, what’s the hold up? OU just named their coach in 2 weeks time.
Pretty puzzling, really considering what they are walking into facilities wise. Bridges need major rebuilding but the right coach can do that right away. More interesting that I haven't seen a single player in the portal. Don't know if that's good or bad.
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The hold up is no one seems to want to work for Gene and he might be forced to short change candidates because donors are pissed at what happened to Suzie, even though, for the most part, it was fine.
The transfer portal action, or lack thereof is pretty crazy. Carter, Legrand, and Fernholz can get scholarship offers damn near anywhere.
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could we steal creightons coach?
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The hold up is no one seems to want to work for Gene…
Do you have an idea why? He seems like a pretty good boss from the outside.
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The hold up is no one seems to want to work for Gene…
Do you have an idea why? He seems like a pretty good boss from the outside.
I'll start by saying that a lot of this is speculative. What's not speculative is that Suzie's firing was messy. She was told tournament or bust, clearly they busted. She apparently started missing meetings at the end of the year including what should have been the last meeting, so he did fire her via text because she supposedly didn't go to the last meeting. There are also rumors that she trashed her office. I don't know from Suzie's perspective why she felt so hard done but she does, and there are apparently key donors who share her feelings. There are also a group of people who see that we now only have one woman head coach in our athletic department and there are people holding the Iowa gender discrimination lawsuit, and the fallout from it, against him.
https://www.cjonline.com/story/sports/college/2017/05/11/new-k-state-ad-gene-taylor-oversaw-iowa-it-department-targeted-highly/16544551007/
I will reiterate that I don't know the nature of Dawn and Suzie's relationship, but I know they have one, at least did at one time. It might be as simple as she not wanting to follow Suzie, or maybe she feels like she doesn't want to work for Gene, or something else.
I don't have first hand knowledge if any of this is why Dawn decided not to come here after she had an offer or why we haven't hired a coach yet. I can tell y'all for a 100% fact that we've gotten multiple NOs, which knowing the pool we're fishing in, seems unacceptable.
What I do know is that we have traditionally spent similarly to most big, power confidence programs, there's no large spending gap for most programs, like there is in football. This in addition to moving into a new building, being a fixture in the top 25 of attendance, and making the NCAA tournament 18 out of the last 27 years. This is a very good job and we shouldn't be getting the hand stiffed by low major coaches and lifetime assistants.
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Oh, good insight. This is volleyball/women’s sports specific, not generally. That was my confusion
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Who wouldn't want to work for Gene? Once you're one of Gene's chosen one's you get long leashes, pay raises and contract extensions. Gene's handed out contract extensions to his two hires that were frankly unwarranted in both circumstances. In one case, after this past season, a substantial pay raise and extension was warranted, but prior, it was not warranted nor earned. In the other case, it wasn't warranted or earned at all.
I'm all for letting coaches like Susie throw their little tantrums and then showing them the door. To me that just walks hand-in-hand with oscar's meltdown. Coaches who believe that because at some point they had a level of success, they're entitled to a forever job. In the vast majority of circumstances that's not how it works in the real world, and that's not how it works at a lot of schools, particularly Power 5 schools.
Also, I'd tell any upset donors to get over it. That's part of the fear of change culture that permeates K-State athletics donordom/fandom. You keep a coach who has clearly slid, is mired in mediocrity because the thought of change is scary. So, you just let mediocre coaches hang out year after year, drawing substantial salaries, working in nice offices and facilities, with constant access to perks and swag while they accomplish little.
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1607769709713461249
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Seems p. good?
Hope he's awesome and gets a statue outside of the new arena.
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Seems p. good?
Hope he's awesome and gets a statue outside of the new arena.
I know nothing, MIR do we #BurnItDown or do we love this hire?
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replaced a female coach with a male, we are watching you Gene.
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He's spent a lot of time around elite programs. Seems like Gene did his job. Anxious to see the staff he assembles.
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Given the circumstances - particularly the fact that the search took 30 days and, as Dax pointed out, that alone makes it clear we were rejected by multiple targets - I think it's an acceptable hire.
He comes from two blueblood programs (Stanford and Washington) and one traditionally very good program (Illinois). Obviously, being an assistant for 20+ years is a bit of a red flag and I'd argue this program merits a coach with prior head coaching experience.
In my view, his No. 1 priority is repairing relationships with the club teams in the region and attempting to create a pipeline. If he can do that - no small task given Suzie's antics in recent years - we should be in good shape to be an NCAA tourney team every year.
Fun tidbit - Mansfield's brother was just named the head coach at OU last week.
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I was pretty clear that I wanted someone who's been successful in the first chair, but if you're going to get an assistant, this is a good one. He doesn't seem to have any direct local ties but that's okay, they can be established, his pedigree is good enough that the club coaches won't be hesitant to work with him. His hires will be important, his first opportunity to mend fences will be keeping Diana Loomis.
I can say for a fact, that he was at least the third choice.
replaced a female coach with a male, we are watching you Gene.
Yeah, again. He did offer at least two women. I thought it was funny that the release mentioned Jill Shields.
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I didn't point out anything relative to the length of time it was taking.
I simply said let people throw their little tantrums, particularly if it's about the removal of a coach mired in mediocrity. I also pointed out that people are dumb if they don't want to work for Gene because Gene's entire track record is that his chosen one's get raises, undeserved and unwarranted pre-emptive contract extensions and long leashes.
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I strong sign of his recruiting chops will show in what we don't see in the portal over the next 24-72 hours.
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There will be some portal movement, at least I hope. Haley Warner is the only player who doesn't have eligibility left. Returning an entire team who went 6-10 in conference doesn't seem like a winning formula. He'll want to bring in some of his own women.
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There will be some portal movement, at least I hope. Haley Warner is the only player who doesn't have eligibility left. Returning an entire team who went 6-10 in conference doesn't seem like a winning formula. He'll want to bring in some of his own women.
Yes, Carter & Fernholz stay , find an experienced setter in the portal, build around those pieces
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It's quite possible he's got connections to the club teams in the region. Stanford has recruited the area well over the years and Illinois has as well (not so much for Washington). No idea if he was responsible in getting any of those kids to Stanford/Illinois, but it's possible.
Also, to the point about where he was on our list of choices, I don't think he's ever been the No. 1 assistant (let alone the head coach), which isn't stellar (though it certainly doesn't mean he can't succeed). I'm not 100 percent certain about Illinois, but he definitely wasn't the No. 1 at either Stanford or Washington (which just hired their No. 1 assistant for the head job after their most recent head coach left for Minnesota).
It's also interesting that Mansfield was at Stanford under Dunning for nearly 15 years, then went to Illinois for 1 year (2016) under Kevin Hambly, who then got the Stanford job starting in 2017 after Dunning retired. But, Mansfield didn't follow Hambly back to Stanford. There certainly could be a very good reason for that, but, on the surface, it's a bit odd.
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I’d peripherally seen uw hired their assistant as head coach a few days earlier. We’re they fighting for the uw job, loser got ksu?
https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/92364/who-next-head-coach-washington
Also learned uw has beach volleyball. https://gohuskies.com/sports/womens-beach-volleyball?path=wbvball
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I’d peripherally seen uw hired their assistant as head coach a few days earlier. We’re they fighting for the uw job, loser got ksu?
https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/92364/who-next-head-coach-washington
Also learned uw has beach volleyball. https://gohuskies.com/sports/womens-beach-volleyball?path=wbvball
The #1 assistant @ UW had been there for 26 years as both a player & coach. He wasn't leapfrogging her.
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For what it's worth, the initial sentiment of the people on the volleyball message boards - the people who live and die for this sport - is that it's a good hire and than Mansfield was due for a head coaching gig.
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For what it's worth, the initial sentiment of the people on the volleyball message boards - the people who live and die for this sport - is that it's a good hire and than Mansfield was due for a head coaching gig.
This is good.
Someone should show them pics/rendos of our new arena and see what they think as well!
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I’d peripherally seen uw hired their assistant as head coach a few days earlier. We’re they fighting for the uw job, loser got ksu?
https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/92364/who-next-head-coach-washington
Also learned uw has beach volleyball. https://gohuskies.com/sports/womens-beach-volleyball?path=wbvball
No, he was not the lead assistant but as already indicated, that staff was exceptional, he has a lead assistant profile for every single job in America including Texas.
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Mods change this thread to Salcat Volleyball
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Just exciting to have a new coach and new facility on the way :ksu:
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Mods change this thread to Salcat Volleyball
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Called it via DM. Jim McLaughlin left K-State for Washington now Mansfield leaving there for Manhattan.
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Any idea how much this dude makes? I looked at the history on the old coach and it kind of surprised me how low it was.
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Any idea how much this dude makes? I looked at the history on the old coach and it kind of surprised me how low it was.
For perspective, Jerrit Elliot at Texas, which just won the national title, makes $550k per year. If we pay above 200k per year, we're probably in the 90th percentile in the country.
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Any idea how much this dude makes? I looked at the history on the old coach and it kind of surprised me how low it was.
Suzie? $200,000 was probably low given her experience, but within the sport, she had a decent salary. Mizzou went cheap with the guy they just fired, he had essentially zero experience and they paid him $150,000. I'd guess Mansfield will be somewhere around $175-$180
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https://www.kstatesports.com/staff-directory/fiona-fonoti/1565 new asst seems like a dece pickup for a first year HC
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The staff is definitely west coast heavy, but, presumably, Fonoti has midwest connections through playing at Nebraska and being at ISU for three years.
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2023/1/13/mansfield-adds-astor-and-fonoti-to-volleyball-coaching-staff.aspx
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When does the new place open?
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When does the new place open?
They’re supposed to have camps in it next week
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https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1677379744436977664
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https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1677379744436977664
Volleyball gonna be lit.
They should host 2A state bball in there
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No more excuses (aka Fritzs)...
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Okay, so now we have one of the nicest dedicated volleyball facilities in the country and our Olympic sports have consolidated their S&C and sports medicine into a fantastic venue.
In this age of NIL, no more money needs to be spent on player/admin/S&C, training facilities at K-State outside of making sure they're kept up to date. As soon as the 2nd phase of the track indoor is done, everyone will have nice stuff. The only facilities projects from here on out need to be geared solely towards revenue generation from fan accommodations. No more recruiting eye candy projects are needed at K-State. That's kind of amazing thing to say, but I give a fist bump to Currie and an attaboy to Gene and team for taking the baton and continuing the momentum.
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Season tix acquired :excited:
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Season tix acquired ? :excited:
Nice! :emawkid:
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Picked 8th this year.
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Picked 8th this year.
Probably about right considering we were 6-10 in league play last year and have basically the same team (plus a new transfer setter from a bad Oregon State team).
Surprising to see UCF so low - they've been the best program in the AAC for the last 5-10 years and have done well in the NCAA tourney considering they're from a 1-2 bid league.
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Picked 8th this year.
Probably about right considering we were 6-10 in league play last year and have basically the same team (plus a new transfer setter from a bad Oregon State team).
Surprising to see UCF so low - they've been the best program in the AAC for the last 5-10 years and have done well in the NCAA tourney considering they're from a 1-2 bid league.
That's simple bias from the coaches not knowing/acknowledging AAC volleyball
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Got a 2023 commit from a top KC player, Reagan Fox - was a Rutgers commit. Will see if she can play this season since she decommitted late.
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Got a 2023 commit from a top KC player, Reagan Fox - was a Rutgers commit. Will see if she can play this season since she decommitted late.
Big win for the new staff, particularly as it relates to re-establishing the relationship with KC Power that Suzie had essentially ruined.
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The exterior is a little meh, but the VB arena is very spot on on the inside.
With the attached new Olympic training and sports medicine facility, that's a pretty awesome one-two punch for K-State to recruit to.
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The exterior is a little meh, but the VB arena is very spot on on the inside.
Heard from some folks who attended the VB scrimmage last weekend that canco this.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/7wluvi.jpg)
https://twitter.com/MitchTheFort/status/1694099045357162967/photo/1
Edit - I think this is it
https://sportprosusa.com/commercial/volleyball/
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It's gorgeous
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If the girls like it,I like it
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It wasn't the look of the floor, it was the type of floor. I had seen that type of floor in the NCAA tourney, but didn't pay it all that much attention, but now that K-State has that type of floor on a full time basis I was trying to figure out what it's all about. Because I'm a sports facility nerd, what can I say :dunno:
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It wasn't the look of the floor, it was the type of floor. I had seen that type of floor in the NCAA tourney, but didn't pay it all that much attention, but now that K-State has that type of floor on a full time basis I was trying to figure out what it's all about. Because I'm a sports facility nerd, what can I say :dunno:
It's Taraflex, the surface every player would love to have under their feet.
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It wasn't the look of the floor, it was the type of floor. I had seen that type of floor in the NCAA tourney, but didn't pay it all that much attention, but now that K-State has that type of floor on a full time basis I was trying to figure out what it's all about. Because I'm a sports facility nerd, what can I say :dunno:
It's Taraflex, the surface every player would love to have under their feet.
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that is a badass name for a sports floor
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The match hasn't even started yet and I don't know how much more I can take off hearing the play by play guy repeatedly say seeman but putting equal emphasis on both syllables.
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We look dreadful in game 1. Awful play from our libero.
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Holy crap, we rough ridin' suck. This might be the worst team we've had since we made our first tournament in '96. Can't pass, can't block, can't hit. I'd this the best we can do at libero? Why even play with one? Carter somehow looks worse than last year. Where did her power from her freshman and sophomore year go?
Also this down ref is a menace, she's worse than we are.
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And we somehow steal set 2.
The fact that we can't put a ball down against a team with basically zero block is even more egregious.
Passing has been terrible, but even when we get a good pass, timing between setters and hitters has been way off (seems like half of our attacks are tips).
Hinkle is in street clothes - wonder where she'd be playing if she wasn't...
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Also, our OH/Opp will most certainly be among the shortest - if not THE shortest - in the multi-bid leagues (5-9, 5-10, 6-0).
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It's gotten somewhat better as the match has gone on.
But the first set and the first part of the second set was absolute woof. :Yuck:
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:lol:
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3-1 K-State
Dominated the 4th, by and large
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A wins a win, but... damn.
PSU was utterly deflated after their best player went down, though we did also stop playing terrible.
We're going to need to play better by a factor of 1000 to not get embarrassed on our new court in 8 days.
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People are going to see that score and be completely fooled by it but we sucked, in all aspects, and that was the worst team on our schedule, for the entire season. The block did get better in the 3rd and 4th sets but after that OH went out they seemed really slow and predictable in their attack. I'm not going to burn it down after the first ever match for Mansfield but they looked appreciably worse than they did at any point last season.
I'm kinda regretting buying tickets to that Nebraska match.
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wow where am I, noemaw.com? we had an off night and ran them off of the court with a resounding dub.
my view is that yes- we’re a work in progress but we have a LOAD of upside wanting and begging to be tapped. this team is going dancing, I almost guarantee it.
does anyone have a line on a good/great ksu v ball podcast? srs don’t link me to a middling v ball podcast
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wow where am I, noemaw.com? we had an off night and ran them off of the court with a resounding dub.
my view is that yes- we’re a work in progress but we have a LOAD of upside wanting and begging to be tapped. this team is going dancing, I almost guarantee it.
does anyone have a line on a good/great ksu v ball podcast? srs don’t link me to a middling v ball podcast
Sounds like you're ready to take the grown-up step of being the official K-State presence on Volleytalk. God speed, Clams.
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https://x.com/kstatevb/status/1695871092047675439?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA
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It would have been nice to be able to see the other two matches. Oh well. We'll win on Friday, Sunday will be something.
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We're picked to finish toward the bottom of the conference, Nebraska is the #5 team in the country and a national title contender.
Was this match ever supposed to be close?
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Like with how shitty we looked in beating an overmatched Portland State team, the Nebraska game isn't about winning but about how we're going to look, at home, against a really good program. Texas, BYU, and Baylor are all teams who could reach the final four, we have another 3-5 teams in conference that could reach the Sweet 16. That Nebraska game will have the most raucous crowd the arena will see all season. It's going to be a great measuring stick and if we go in there and lose 17, 20, 15 it's a sign that we haven't progressed. Unlike when most coaches take over a roster, we didn't have to rebuild, we didn't lose a single player to the portal. If we take a step back this season, it's a really bad sign.
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This guys entire career has been spent coaching at the P5 level, I mean . . . he should know what to do, right?
He's been on the bench for 19 of the last 20 NCAA tourneys, including national titles and multiple final fours. He certainly should know what it takes to compete at that level, shouldn't he?
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let's hope so.
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This guys entire career has been spent coaching at the P5 level, I mean . . . he should know what to do, right?
He's been on the bench for 19 of the last 20 NCAA tourneys, including national titles and multiple final fours. He certainly should know what it takes to compete at that level, shouldn't he?
oh trust me, he knows. lol, he knows.
this guy has ncaa tournaments wired into his dna. he’s part v ball coach, part ncaa v ball bracket. we’re talking humanoid. don’t despair, dax, this wildcat v ball troop is going dancing.
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Two LVBIQ questions:
Do they put the NCAA tourney in pods with the top seed hosting or H-t-H at neutral sites/hosted sites?
Will Volleyball be our first K-State Athletics Natty?
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This guys entire career has been spent coaching at the P5 level, I mean . . . he should know what to do, right?
He's been on the bench for 19 of the last 20 NCAA tourneys, including national titles and multiple final fours. He certainly should know what it takes to compete at that level, shouldn't he?
oh trust me, he knows. lol, he knows.
this guy has ncaa tournaments wired into his dna. he’s part v ball coach, part ncaa v ball bracket. we’re talking humanoid. don’t despair, dax, this wildcat v ball troop is going dancing.
EMAW pclams!!
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Two LVBIQ questions:
Do they put the NCAA tourney in pods with the top seed hosting or H-t-H at neutral sites/hosted sites?
Will Volleyball be our first K-State Athletics Natty?
Yes, the first two rounds are on home courts, top 16 teams hosting, neutral sites after that.
No volleyball won't be our first national championship, the gap between the elite and everyone else is as big in volleyball as it is in any team sport. Even when KU made a final four, completely out of their asses, eight years ago, they weren't even close to the other teams in that final four.
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Link to pdf of 2023 Cats Volleyball Media Guide:
https://www.kstatesports.com/documents/2023/8/21/2023VBMG.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2B08UlYytWGc3bfFYwW-5MShDKjFAgOoMehfPwegkeT2uEZ40F_sFuEsg (https://www.kstatesports.com/documents/2023/8/21/2023VBMG.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2B08UlYytWGc3bfFYwW-5MShDKjFAgOoMehfPwegkeT2uEZ40F_sFuEsg)
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Slight oopsie on page 23...
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Such a weird mistake. Dunn shouldn't even be on that page, certainly not twice.
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If anyone has an extra ticket for Sunday, I need one. Please and thank you
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Such a weird mistake. Dunn shouldn't even be on that page, certainly not twice.
As an official media guide nerd, I'm fascinated by what happened there.
John Dunn is a volleyball assistant coach (who obviously doesn't belong on that page), but that photo isn't him. The layout looks like a copy/paste job from the football media guide, except that had Jerome Tang's name correct and a space for the "TBA" women's golf coach. Is the new women's golf coach the person in the photo labeled as "John Dunn"? Maybe they just botched the name? But, even if it was the correct photo/name of the golf coach, they would have needed to reorder the images to be in alphabetical order by name (new coach's last name is Burke, so he would have been first). But that still doesn't explain why Tang's name got jacked up if it was just copied over from football.
Maybe someone who watches that Steve Martin/Martin Short show can explain it.
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After this and having to open Morgan Family Arena on Friday, Omaha should be ready to run a train on the Summit League. Their non con is ridiculously brutal. They host a tournament with Creighton and Iowa State too.
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1697060879932461216
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They are going to get wrecked, but hope it's fun. That's a long way to go for volleycats
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Good for Cornhole and Cornhole fans.
All I saw was a lot of people sitting a long long way from the action. But they're tons of accolades and I know they just eat that up and we'll be hearing about it for decades to come, so good for them.
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After this and having to open Morgan Family Arena on Friday, Omaha should be ready to run a train on the Summit League. Their non con is ridiculously brutal. They host a tournament with Creighton and Iowa State too.
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1697060879932461216
Nope
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Good for Cornhole and Cornhole fans.
All I saw was a lot of people sitting a long long way from the action. But they're tons of accolades and I know they just eat that up and we'll be hearing about it for decades to come, so good for them.
I didn't think about it at the time but apparently this set the women's sports attendance record by only 350 people, now I can't help but think about Nebraska historically lying and pulling cheap attendance tricks.
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keep on rolling
https://twitter.com/kstatevb/status/1697780312770588987?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA
sunday can’t get here fast enough
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https://twitter.com/coachFMartin/status/1697726414294835223?s=20
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ope
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That's a top notch venue.
Frank . . . :lol:
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Good for Cornhole and Cornhole fans.
All I saw was a lot of people sitting a long long way from the action. But they're tons of accolades and I know they just eat that up and we'll be hearing about it for decades to come, so good for them.
I didn't think about it at the time but apparently this set the women's sports attendance record by only 350 people, now I can't help but think about Nebraska historically lying and pulling cheap attendance tricks.
Come on . . . at a school whose administration and fans would look at you with a straight face if you questioned their football academic all-american numbers and the prospect that there may have been a wee bit of grade inflation going on. Or, look at you with a straight face and tell you all about Boyd Epley's in house PED testing program.
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We've played 4 matches against bad teams and looked good in two and looked bad in two (including last night when, once again, we couldn't pass).
Obviously, it all adds up to a huge upset of Nebraska tomorrow.
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well, the huskers are a heck of a team there, but so do we. i predict that we’ll get up and dust this loss off and begin our next winning streak on friday
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We looked really good in the first set. We looked really really shitty in the second set. The third set is likely who we are and that's a team that will need to claw, scratch, and fight to be on the bubble.
Mansfield seems to want to only block one in the middle, we did it all night with no adjustments, at all so I'm guessing it's philosophical. Nebraska absolutely dominated that middle solo blocker and all good teams will.
The transfer setter is still adjusting to the team. She isn't bad, at all, but it's wild that she was first team all Pac 12. I don't see that at all.
I really like Aniya Clinton. Suzie did a great job recruiting her. She's really aggressive and the moment didn't seem too big for her, at all. She and Meyers are the only underclassmen who play. I hope Mansfield is a good recruiter.
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We looked really good in the first set. We looked really really shitty in the second set. The third set is likely who we are and that's a team that will need to claw, scratch, and fight to be on the bubble.
Mansfield seems to want to only block one in the middle, we did it all night with no adjustments, at all so I'm guessing it's philosophical. Nebraska absolutely dominated that middle solo blocker and all good teams will.
The transfer setter is still adjusting to the team. She isn't bad, at all, but it's wild that she was first team all Pac 12. I don't see that at all.
I really like Aniya Clinton. Suzie did a great job recruiting her. She's really aggressive and the moment didn't seem too big for her, at all. She and Meyers are the only underclassmen who play. I hope Mansfield is a good recruiter.
Losing Aliyah Goolsby to Iowa State hurts. Cats were at least in it till the end.
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The transfer setter is still adjusting to the team. She isn't bad, at all, but it's wild that she was first team all Pac 12. I don't see that at all.
I think she was HM..better than Hinkle at least. If they can go 8-1 in non con (would have to beat Rice at home) then could be on the right side of the bubble as long as they don’t suck in conference play.
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tough times as the volleyball team lost to lipscomb
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Hitting .296 & losing usually indicates some defensive issues. I didn't see the match so dunno.
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tough times as the volleyball team lost to lipscomb
How early is too early to pull the ripcord?
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What? We're no longer party rockin after winning matches when we're hitting 13%?
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nebraska beat stanford on the road yesterday and people here are HYPE. and NOT just because football is so unbelievably shitty here (though it's obviously a factor).
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Just getting whipped by TCU
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Lost the 3rd and Match
0-1 Conference play, TCU Part 2 tomorrow
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I hate to say I told you so but...
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Sus 1st contact, not good.
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We miss Baka more than I thought we would...
Hopefully this coaching staff can recruit given that damn near every key player from this mediocre team will be gone next year.
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They aren't even close, can't block, can't pass, can't dig. Painfully difficult on their attackers.
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70% platform sets don't win many D1 VB matches. Brutal
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Couldn't go tonight but we're up 2 sets to 1 :surprised:
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Cats win in 5!! :excited:
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Yeah, enjoy those conference wins, they're going to be in very short supply.
For what it's worth, Missouri might be worse than we are.
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Cats sweep WVU in Morgantown. Got progressively better as the match went on. Back home Saturday to host Cincinnati.
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Will take the dub!
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Best we've looked this season, promising.
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It probably was the most complete match of the season, but that WVU team is... not good (to be kind). Winless in the Big 12 last year and losses to Davidson, Colgate, Old Dominion, etc. this year.
We've got to get better play from Carter (particularly on the passing side), but I'm not sure it's gonna happen.
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Yeah, that ship has sailed. Carter's descendance from her freshman and sophomore year to her junior to senior year should be on unsolved mysteries. It's like her body was taken over by the volleyball monstars.
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Good lord - going into the 5th set and Carter has 16 points for KSU and 18 points for Baylor (13 hitting errors and five service errors)
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I only saw the last two sets - that was some sloppy ass volleyball. But, a win's a win (especially over a ranked team)
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Great to have the win. Good night for lady cats
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Good lord - going into the 5th set and Carter has 16 points for KSU and 18 points for Baylor (13 hitting errors and five service errors)
lol that’s awesome
it’s a good road win, something to build on
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Holy crap, I might go back and watch that today.
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I missed it as well, checking out the replay right now. First win over Baylor since 2018!
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I might go back and watch the first two sets - presumably we actually played well. But the last two sets were dog crap and the fifth was a contest to see which team would make fewer errors. Four of our 15 points were Baylor spraying the ball everywhere and six of Baylor's 13 points were K-State errors. Not coincidentally, we only had one SE in the fifth set (and 14 in the first four), which was arguably the difference.
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Carter isn't a 6 rotation OH. That's no crime, there's really very few that are. Cats are scrapping against Iowa St, fun to watch. Home digs look sweet.
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3-0 Cats over #25 Iowa State
Dominate
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We played well, but it was also nice to see another team lay a complete turd in serve receive and just play bad overall. They had 30 errors (23 unforced) - that's pretty terrible.
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Yeah my goodness ISU offered next to nothing tonight, and they never seemed all that bothered. Thought we looked sharp. Nice W! :emawkid:
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On pace for the post season or what?
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On pace for the post season or what?
Probably not, but still a chance. The ISU win will give us a boost in the RPI (currently No. 92), but the issue is that we're only 10-6 with a pretty tough schedule ahead of us. The opportunities for upsets are there with matches against UCF (No. 31), BYUx2 (No. 16), KUx2 (No. 25), Texas (No. 4) and Houston (No. 47). Can't drop matches to TTx2 (No. 89) or OUx2 (No. 116) unless we pull off multiple upsets. If we could sweep OU/TT and go 3-4 in the other 7 matches against good teams, we'd be at 17-10 and that would give us a fighting chance.
But, as inconsistent as we've played, I wouldn't bet on that outcome.
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pretty impressive win vs byu
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Maybe our new arena has a debilitating affect on teams because BYU (like ISU) played terrible. I'd guess we had close to 10 bad setter/attacker connections and that 2/3 of them somehow fell for points. We did play very well - best match of the year that I've seen, particularly taking into account a top 10 team.
We had 9 blocks, but BYU had 19 unforced errors, 14 of which were spraying the ball out of bounds.
Hopefully we can repeat tomorrow...
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Impressive to sweep
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I wanted to go to a game this trip, thought about tonight but it wasn't going to work out. I had planned on going tomorrow but ain't no seats! I'll keep looking on the after seller sites but earlier when I looked it was completely sold out. :frown:
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i bet the new arena is pretty sick inside. they should have put windows in it
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Headed to the match with my dad. Thanks for the tix [mention]MakeItRain [/mention] !!!
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Back to Back Sweeps of #8 BYU. Pretty good for the Volleycats
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The new arena is very nice and we played well!
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Tightening the rotation - going to a 5-1 with Izzi and sticking with Carter/Clinton at the OH spot seems to have unleashed a new team.
I don't know if BYU is a legit top 10 team, but, if they are, we can play with just about anyone when we're on.
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Tightening the rotation - going to a 5-1 with Izzi and sticking with Carter/Clinton at the OH spot seems to have unleashed a new team.
I don't know if BYU is a legit top 10 team, but, if they are, we can play with just about anyone when we're on.
Not only those changes but playing a DS and a libero at the same time have made us dynamic defensively. I also noticed how much better we are at getting two blockers on hitters, we were dreadful at that earlier in the season.
I was critical of Izzi earlier, but my goodness she's every bit the player who was all conference Pac 12 last season, she's really fun to watch. Not only does she set a good ball but she the best attacking setter we've had since Disney Bronnenberg. I also love that we have found more attacking options other than Carter and Bolding. Carter still isn't what she was but she's making it work.
After set 2 BYU looked completely shell shocked and it didn't look or feel like they wanted to be there.
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Back to Back Sweeps of #8 BYU. Pretty good for the Volleycats
Incredibly good
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Tightening the rotation - going to a 5-1 with Izzi and sticking with Carter/Clinton at the OH spot seems to have unleashed a new team.
I don't know if BYU is a legit top 10 team, but, if they are, we can play with just about anyone when we're on.
Not only those changes but playing a DS and a libero at the same time have made us dynamic defensively. I also noticed how much better we are at getting two blockers on hitters, we were dreadful at that earlier in the season.
I was critical of Izzi earlier, but my goodness she's every bit the player who was all conference Pac 12 last season, she's really fun to watch. Not only does she set a good ball but she the best attacking setter we've had since Disney Bronnenberg. I also love that we have found more attacking options other than Carter and Bolding. Carter still isn't what she was but she's making it work.
After set 2 BYU looked completely shell shocked and it didn't look or feel like they wanted to be there.
Haven't had many chances to see Izzi in the front row, but she's a foot shorter than Schmidt and her reach was higher on the block. Obviously, Schmidt is no high jumper, but still.
And, yeah Sims has definitely helped with passing.
Texas isn't the powerhouse they've been in the past - genuinely excited to see us play them.
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Gene hired the right coach. They have improved every week in conference play. KU isn't an easy place to play.
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Gene hired the right coach. They have improved every week in conference play. KU isn't an easy place to play.
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Perhaps, but God damn, that was a pisser. Should've won set 2 and left the court after 4.
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Get the split and we're still okay, losing tomorrow is going to make a tournament appearance real tough. Gonna need to win either tomorrow or against Texas on Wednesday along with sweeping tech next weekend.
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WOW!!!
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Absolutely crazy...
For those with some free time, some absolute gems in this thread from whiny, entitled, douchey Texas fans.
https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/96511/texas-kansas-state-nov-espn
Just a few from the 30 page thread...
"Omg the overrated chant right now is a lot lmao this may not end well for KSU."
"I’m thinking JE is wanting Texas to lose this match to get them a more favorable spot in the bracket. It’s the only thing that is making sense for me.. I don’t get any of the coaching decisions being made."
"Yall gone have Horns1 shaming all of you when the girls pull off the reverse sweep😂"
"K state was not impressive to me. Which outlines how bad we performed today."
"and their coach is hot. this is so annoying."
"Baylor was much more impressive in our win than KSU in our loss."
"When Stanford beat us, they looked GREAT. Even WSU we definitely let slip away at times but they made impressive plays. I just don’t feel that way about this match. I don’t think Texas looked good, and I thought Kansas State was decent. Which was enough to get the win, so credit to them. But I still have the same opinion on how the teams did."
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That was amazing!!! Four straight ranked wins at home. The building was rocking again tonight. Thank you for the gems KITH.
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Absolutely crazy...
For those with some free time, some absolute gems in this thread from whiny, entitled, douchey Texas fans.
https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/96511/texas-kansas-state-nov-espn
Just a few from the 30 page thread...
"Omg the overrated chant right now is a lot lmao this may not end well for KSU."
"I’m thinking JE is wanting Texas to lose this match to get them a more favorable spot in the bracket. It’s the only thing that is making sense for me.. I don’t get any of the coaching decisions being made."
"Yall gone have Horns1 shaming all of you when the girls pull off the reverse sweep"
"K state was not impressive to me. Which outlines how bad we performed today."
"and their coach is hot. this is so annoying."
"Baylor was much more impressive in our win than KSU in our loss."
"When Stanford beat us, they looked GREAT. Even WSU we definitely let slip away at times but they made impressive plays. I just don’t feel that way about this match. I don’t think Texas looked good, and I thought Kansas State was decent. Which was enough to get the win, so credit to them. But I still have the same opinion on how the teams did."
volley gems are the things in my life that I never knew I needed
this team has been fun to watch coming together
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eff yeah! I'm really glad that I got to go to a match in the new arena. It's super nice and this is awesome that we are doing so well!
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Incredible for them
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Are we a volleyball school now?
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Izzi :blush:
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Izzi :blush:
Izzi Szulczewski is so good, and she might have the best name in collegiate volleyball.
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I feel like such a schmuck for my early season Izzi take, Mansfield's fault.
We have a very manageable last three games, if we win them all, were in the tournament.
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Pretty ignorant on the team. What does next year look like? We losing a bunch of seniors?
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Not a bunch, no. Only one starter is completely out of eligibility, Bolding and she's really good. A couple of others are dependant upon whether or not they want to take their covid year. I'm guessing the only transfers we'll have are ones that the coaches ask to leave. If they didn't leave after last season, they certainly aren't now, unless they're asked to.
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they played pretty well this weekend against ttu
next saturday at houston is figuring to be big
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Izzi :blush:
Totally get it
I feel like such a schmuck for my early season Izzi take, Mansfield's fault.
We have a very manageable last three games, if we win them all, were in the tournament.
I hope so. We seem to be good enough for it. If we lose the last one we mumped?
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If we lose the last one we mumped?
No, Houston is a tournament lock and will be a 6 seed at absolute worst. You'd have to think another top 25 RPI win, especially one on the road, puts us in. A loss and we're on the bubble, hoping the committee ignores our home/road splits.
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We didn't lose a set in MHK the last 6 weeks of the season.
Can we petition the NCAA to play all matches at home?
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We dropped 6 spots in the rpi, from 51 to 57 :shakesfist: The Houston match, on Saturday afternoon, is massive
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We're receiving votes in the coaches' poll, so unless we get absolutely crushed by Houston, one would think we'd be stable with respect to RPI and those votes next week (and, the RPI could even go up a bit even if we lose since Houston is #27).
With the number of quality wins we have, it would be surprising to me if we don't make it even with a loss this weekend.
Volleytalk's bracketology nerd has us as one of the last 7 teams in and playing at Creighton in the 1st/2nd rounds. It helps us that there are three teams that are close by (Creighton, KU, Nebraska) within driving distance. They have us as an unofficial #3 seed in our pod and playing Penn State in the first round. That would be a rematch of the NCAA Tourney Sweet 16 matchup from 2003 when Suzie had her best team ever (we lost).
They also have these teams as the last batch left out, so we should all root for them to lose this weekend: Loyola-Chicago, Stephen F. Austin, NC State, Loyola Marymount, Drake, UCLA
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i ran into the ucla team at lax last month , that’s all I got on them
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We're receiving votes in the coaches' poll, so unless we get absolutely crushed by Houston, one would think we'd be stable with respect to RPI and those votes next week (and, the RPI could even go up a bit even if we lose since Houston is #27).
With the number of quality wins we have, it would be surprising to me if we don't make it even with a loss this weekend.
Volleytalk's bracketology nerd has us as one of the last 7 teams in and playing at Creighton in the 1st/2nd rounds. It helps us that there are three teams that are close by (Creighton, KU, Nebraska) within driving distance. They have us as an unofficial #3 seed in our pod and playing Penn State in the first round. That would be a rematch of the NCAA Tourney Sweet 16 matchup from 2003 when Suzie had her best team ever (we lost).
They also have these teams as the last batch left out, so we should all root for them to lose this weekend: Loyola-Chicago, Stephen F. Austin, NC State, Loyola Marymount, Drake, UCLA
A couple of those teams have post season tournaments, so we also don't want bid stealers in those conferences
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Currently tied 1-1 at Houston, would love for them to pull this out
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Really shat the bed in sets 3 & 4 after coulda/shoulda/woulda won set 2 .
We'll see what happens tomorrow, but there can't be many cases where a team with three top 10 wins in a season doesn't make the tourney.
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:cry: Blowing that second set was below not good, I think we're cooked. We couldn't have looked worse in sets 3 & 4, against a team that was short handed. The bids being stolen, all over the place, doesn't help.
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:frown:
Good foundation year to build off of. Hoping for a generous decision from the committee tomorrow.
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Didn't make it, weren't close. If we beat Houston we likely still wouldn't have made it. We were about 20 places lower in the rpi than the lowest at large selection.
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SFA didn’t have any top 50 wins. We had 6
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eff this
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Not that it matters, but the Volleytalk crowd largely thinks KSU being left out and SFA getting into the field is one of the worst committee decisions in a long time. SFA had zero top 50 wins and KSU had six (three in the top 15). But, it seems like this committee largely went chalk with the RPI (SFA was 37 and we were 57).
Definitely some learnings from a scheduling standpoint for next year..
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I wonder if the non con was already made up before Mansfield got the job
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Not that it matters, but the Volleytalk crowd largely thinks KSU being left out and SFA getting into the field is one of the worst committee decisions in a long time. SFA had zero top 50 wins and KSU had six (three in the top 15). But, it seems like this committee largely went chalk with the RPI (SFA was 37 and we were 57).
Definitely some learnings from a scheduling standpoint for next year..
The committee for all sports outside of men's basketball does that, and frankly, without the ability to see all of these teams on a consistent basis, they should. The people who say that SFA shouldn't be in have no real way of knowing that they aren't as good as the other bubble schools they were paired against. Power conference schools shouldn't be selected simply because they are in a power conference. The volleyball committee has a long history of issuing a multiple bids to traditional one bid conferences.
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I wonder if the non con was already made up before Mansfield got the job
It was not, but the non con was fine. We could have gotten more help from those teams in the Portland tournament but we were victimized by bad conference losses more than the non con schedule. Besides, we were awful in the non con, even the matches we won. A harder schedule would have resulted in a record around .500
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Not that it matters, but the Volleytalk crowd largely thinks KSU being left out and SFA getting into the field is one of the worst committee decisions in a long time. SFA had zero top 50 wins and KSU had six (three in the top 15). But, it seems like this committee largely went chalk with the RPI (SFA was 37 and we were 57).
Definitely some learnings from a scheduling standpoint for next year..
The committee for all sports outside of men's basketball does that, and frankly, without the ability to see all of these teams on a consistent basis, they should. The people who say that SFA shouldn't be in have no real way of knowing that they aren't as good as the other bubble schools they were paired against. Power conference schools shouldn't be selected simply because they are in a power conference. The volleyball committee has a long history of issuing a multiple bids to traditional one bid conferences.
Agree to disagree a bit on this one - I'd argue it's actually been trending in the opposite direction and what was stated as the most important factors earlier this year (not just the RPI/KPI, but also your recent matches, etc.) actually leaves the door open to more big schools.
I mean, TCU made the tourney at 16-14 and 8-10 in Big 12 play and had zero wins against top 25 RPI teams during the year - did they really deserve to be in the tourney over teams like SFA? That's a glaring example to me of when you take the small school teams with 30-4 records over a power five school that didn't do anything of substance during the year.
I agree that the committee should largely base these decisions off RPI/KPI, but you can't just look at that when it gets down to the last 8-10 teams in the field. If you put TCU and K-State side by side, the resume clearly favors K-State in every way other than the 13 spot difference in RPI. And, at that point, that's a pretty insignificant difference when factoring in the quality of K-State's wins vs. TCU's.
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Not that it matters, but the Volleytalk crowd largely thinks KSU being left out and SFA getting into the field is one of the worst committee decisions in a long time. SFA had zero top 50 wins and KSU had six (three in the top 15). But, it seems like this committee largely went chalk with the RPI (SFA was 37 and we were 57).
Definitely some learnings from a scheduling standpoint for next year..
The committee for all sports outside of men's basketball does that, and frankly, without the ability to see all of these teams on a consistent basis, they should. The people who say that SFA shouldn't be in have no real way of knowing that they aren't as good as the other bubble schools they were paired against. Power conference schools shouldn't be selected simply because they are in a power conference. The volleyball committee has a long history of issuing a multiple bids to traditional one bid conferences.
Agree to disagree a bit on this one - I'd argue it's actually been trending in the opposite direction and what was stated as the most important factors earlier this year (not just the RPI/KPI, but also your recent matches, etc.) actually leaves the door open to more big schools.
I mean, TCU made the tourney at 16-14 and 8-10 in Big 12 play and had zero wins against top 25 RPI teams during the year - did they really deserve to be in the tourney over teams like SFA? That's a glaring example to me of when you take the small school teams with 30-4 records over a power five school that didn't do anything of substance during the year.
I agree that the committee should largely base these decisions off RPI/KPI, but you can't just look at that when it gets down to the last 8-10 teams in the field. If you put TCU and K-State side by side, the resume clearly favors K-State in every way other than the 13 spot difference in RPI. And, at that point, that's a pretty insignificant difference when factoring in the quality of K-State's wins vs. TCU's.
The stuff about TCU and K-State is true, but they don't look at schools head to head like that, maybe the last couple of teams but that's it. This also lends credence to my belief that K-State wasn't really close to getting in.
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Not that it matters, but the Volleytalk crowd largely thinks KSU being left out and SFA getting into the field is one of the worst committee decisions in a long time. SFA had zero top 50 wins and KSU had six (three in the top 15). But, it seems like this committee largely went chalk with the RPI (SFA was 37 and we were 57).
Definitely some learnings from a scheduling standpoint for next year..
The committee for all sports outside of men's basketball does that, and frankly, without the ability to see all of these teams on a consistent basis, they should. The people who say that SFA shouldn't be in have no real way of knowing that they aren't as good as the other bubble schools they were paired against. Power conference schools shouldn't be selected simply because they are in a power conference. The volleyball committee has a long history of issuing a multiple bids to traditional one bid conferences.
Agree to disagree a bit on this one - I'd argue it's actually been trending in the opposite direction and what was stated as the most important factors earlier this year (not just the RPI/KPI, but also your recent matches, etc.) actually leaves the door open to more big schools.
I mean, TCU made the tourney at 16-14 and 8-10 in Big 12 play and had zero wins against top 25 RPI teams during the year - did they really deserve to be in the tourney over teams like SFA? That's a glaring example to me of when you take the small school teams with 30-4 records over a power five school that didn't do anything of substance during the year.
I agree that the committee should largely base these decisions off RPI/KPI, but you can't just look at that when it gets down to the last 8-10 teams in the field. If you put TCU and K-State side by side, the resume clearly favors K-State in every way other than the 13 spot difference in RPI. And, at that point, that's a pretty insignificant difference when factoring in the quality of K-State's wins vs. TCU's.
The stuff about TCU and K-State is true, but they don't look at schools head to head like that, maybe the last couple of teams but that's it. This also lends credence to my belief that K-State wasn't really close to getting in.
That's probably true - irritating, but probably true.
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Big 12 Honors
First team: Carter
Second team: Bolding, Morris
Rookie team: Clinton
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Carter is coming back for another year :party:
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Texas vs. Nebraska.. Honestly surprised at how dominant Texas was over Wisconsin last night.
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Both matches were bloodbaths
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Feels weird to say but I hope TX wins this thing or we will be hearing nub fans crowing about their natty for months.
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Hook em
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Horns!
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Bloodbath
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It was nice to see Nebraska get rough ridin' hammered like that, a complete a total embarrassment on the biggest stage. I don't know if any of you saw the opening montage of that game, I flipped over during the first TV timeout of our basketball game, but John Cook is really feeling himself these days, even more than he has in the past.
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Nice to know we beat the champs. That's cool.
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It was nice to see Nebraska get rough ridin' hammered like that, a complete a total embarrassment on the biggest stage. I don't know if any of you saw the opening montage of that game, I flipped over during the first TV timeout of our basketball game, but John Cook is really feeling himself these days, even more than he has in the past.
Cook is almost universally viewed as "weird" in the VB coaching community. It was a while back, but at some point, he was opening pondering to anyone who would listen about the thought of switching sports because he felt like he was such a good coach that it would translate to just about any sport.
After the match yesterday, he made it a point to say that Texas won because it had a bunch of transfers, which was funny because the last time Nebraska had made the title game (2021) it was largely on the arm of Lexi Sun, who, coincidentally, was a transfer from... Texas.
He's a tool...
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He's the personification of ol Cornhole.
Once upon a time they looked down their noses at everyone in football.
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It was nice to see Nebraska get rough ridin' hammered like that, a complete a total embarrassment on the biggest stage. I don't know if any of you saw the opening montage of that game, I flipped over during the first TV timeout of our basketball game, but John Cook is really feeling himself these days, even more than he has in the past.
Cook is almost universally viewed as "weird" in the VB coaching community. It was a while back, but at some point, he was opening pondering to anyone who would listen about the thought of switching sports because he felt like he was such a good coach that it would translate to just about any sport.
After the match yesterday, he made it a point to say that Texas won because it had a bunch of transfers, which was funny because the last time Nebraska had made the title game (2021) it was largely on the arm of Lexi Sun, who, coincidentally, was a transfer from... Texas.
He's a tool...
This checks out.. Akana that transferred from nub to texas also probably the hottest gal on texas' squad.
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It was nice to see Nebraska get rough ridin' hammered like that, a complete a total embarrassment on the biggest stage. I don't know if any of you saw the opening montage of that game, I flipped over during the first TV timeout of our basketball game, but John Cook is really feeling himself these days, even more than he has in the past.
Cook is almost universally viewed as "weird" in the VB coaching community. It was a while back, but at some point, he was opening pondering to anyone who would listen about the thought of switching sports because he felt like he was such a good coach that it would translate to just about any sport.
After the match yesterday, he made it a point to say that Texas won because it had a bunch of transfers, which was funny because the last time Nebraska had made the title game (2021) it was largely on the arm of Lexi Sun, who, coincidentally, was a transfer from... Texas.
He's a tool...
This checks out.. Akana that transferred from nub to texas also probably the hottest gal on texas' squad.
is everyone on these teams like 6'1? good grief.
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It was nice to see Nebraska get rough ridin' hammered like that, a complete a total embarrassment on the biggest stage. I don't know if any of you saw the opening montage of that game, I flipped over during the first TV timeout of our basketball game, but John Cook is really feeling himself these days, even more than he has in the past.
Cook is almost universally viewed as "weird" in the VB coaching community. It was a while back, but at some point, he was opening pondering to anyone who would listen about the thought of switching sports because he felt like he was such a good coach that it would translate to just about any sport.
After the match yesterday, he made it a point to say that Texas won because it had a bunch of transfers, which was funny because the last time Nebraska had made the title game (2021) it was largely on the arm of Lexi Sun, who, coincidentally, was a transfer from... Texas.
He's a tool...
https://twitter.com/BroBible/status/1736759517084336433
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These are two big-time transfers who should be starters from day 1...
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2024/1/3/two-added-to-k-states-2024-volleyball-roster.aspx
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Yeah, those signings are fantastic