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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2018, 11:31:20 AM »
You could say Dean had a slight slide from his FR to SO years, but his improvement this year is significant so far.



why is your FTR so different from kenpom. lots of your stats are.

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2018, 12:30:09 PM »
You could say Dean had a slight slide from his FR to SO years, but his improvement this year is significant so far.



why is your FTR so different from kenpom. lots of your stats are.

Yeah, I see that now. The JR year stats are jacked up.

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #77 on: January 12, 2018, 12:41:45 PM »
Here is the fixed chart for Dean each year.

Edit: My possession percentage is different. However, I finally found the error in my offensive rating formula, so that is fixed and reflects similar to kenpom. There are still some slight differences that I believe are caused by differences in accounting for overtime minutes.

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #78 on: January 12, 2018, 01:43:10 PM »
I never said anything comparing explicitly this years stats to others.

what the eff is this?

I also feel like Wade's stats have shown a gradual regression under oscar. 

and yeah you can talk about his efg if you want, dumbass. :lol:

You seem really mentally unstable. 

I'm not making a pure statistical comparison to this year, since we all agree we still have too far to go with conference play.  (Interesting you fail to take that into account with your points where you do the most extreme name calling) most everyone agrees that oscar doesn't develop and many times causes some regression.  I'm on record that wade has done extremely well these last few games, better then the tentative Wade we saw in noncon.  I hope he continues this renissaunce we've seen because that will guaranteed lead to cats wins.  But as we've seen before, oscar's teams fade pretty dang hard in conference play and especially the second half of league play
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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2018, 01:58:17 PM »
I never said anything comparing explicitly this years stats to others.

what the eff is this?

I also feel like Wade's stats have shown a gradual regression under oscar. 

and yeah you can talk about his efg if you want, dumbass. :lol:

You seem really mentally unstable. 

I'm not making a pure statistical comparison to this year, since we all agree we still have too far to go with conference play.  (Interesting you fail to take that into account with your points where you do the most extreme name calling) most everyone agrees that oscar doesn't develop and many times causes some regression.  I'm on record that wade has done extremely well these last few games, better then the tentative Wade we saw in noncon.  I hope he continues this renissaunce we've seen because that will guaranteed lead to cats wins.  But as we've seen before, oscar's teams fade pretty dang hard in conference play and especially the second half of league play

sure, we can talk about him regressing in conference play

oh wait, last year his Orating in conference was identical to his overall ORating. His EFG was better in conference than it was overall. And he shot more frequently. His rebounding was steady. Oh and the same thing is happening this year so far.

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2018, 02:00:10 PM »
I never said anything comparing explicitly this years stats to others.

what the eff is this?

I also feel like Wade's stats have shown a gradual regression under oscar. 

and yeah you can talk about his efg if you want, dumbass. :lol:

 I hope he continues this renissaunce we've seen because that will guaranteed lead to cats wins. 

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2018, 02:45:12 PM »
I never said anything comparing explicitly this years stats to others.

what the eff is this?

I also feel like Wade's stats have shown a gradual regression under oscar. 

and yeah you can talk about his efg if you want, dumbass. :lol:

You seem really mentally unstable. 

I'm not making a pure statistical comparison to this year, since we all agree we still have too far to go with conference play.  (Interesting you fail to take that into account with your points where you do the most extreme name calling) most everyone agrees that oscar doesn't develop and many times causes some regression.  I'm on record that wade has done extremely well these last few games, better then the tentative Wade we saw in noncon.  I hope he continues this renissaunce we've seen because that will guaranteed lead to cats wins.  But as we've seen before, oscar's teams fade pretty dang hard in conference play and especially the second half of league play

sure, we can talk about him regressing in conference play

oh wait, last year his Orating in conference was identical to his overall ORating. His EFG was better in conference than it was overall. And he shot more frequently. His rebounding was steady. Oh and the same thing is happening this year so far.
kenpom for those other stats? (Adults would have posted this to make a claim before hand)
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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2018, 03:17:37 PM »
Wade's sophomore year will likely be his worst stats because it will be the only one he shares the court with another legit P5 post player :(

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2018, 03:21:55 PM »
I never said anything comparing explicitly this years stats to others.

what the eff is this?

I also feel like Wade's stats have shown a gradual regression under oscar. 

and yeah you can talk about his efg if you want, dumbass. :lol:

You seem really mentally unstable. 

I'm not making a pure statistical comparison to this year, since we all agree we still have too far to go with conference play.  (Interesting you fail to take that into account with your points where you do the most extreme name calling) most everyone agrees that oscar doesn't develop and many times causes some regression.  I'm on record that wade has done extremely well these last few games, better then the tentative Wade we saw in noncon.  I hope he continues this renissaunce we've seen because that will guaranteed lead to cats wins.  But as we've seen before, oscar's teams fade pretty dang hard in conference play and especially the second half of league play

sure, we can talk about him regressing in conference play

oh wait, last year his Orating in conference was identical to his overall ORating. His EFG was better in conference than it was overall. And he shot more frequently. His rebounding was steady. Oh and the same thing is happening this year so far.
kenpom for those other stats? (Adults would have posted this to make a claim before hand)
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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2018, 03:30:27 PM »
Also the updated stats he has regressed slightly in conference play but barely

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #85 on: January 12, 2018, 05:09:20 PM »
 :sdeek: Rusty rage up in here  :lol:

We'll see how things play out.  Congrats on being hardcore team oscar.  See you at the end of the season.  Go Cats.
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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #86 on: January 12, 2018, 07:27:03 PM »
Rusty's getting edn'd, we've all been there.
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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #87 on: January 12, 2018, 07:47:45 PM »
the truth is still undefeated
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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #88 on: January 12, 2018, 08:04:58 PM »
I have not read this thread and won't and it keeps getting longer and pissing me off.

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2018, 01:16:15 AM »
Rusty's getting edn'd, we've all been there.
quit acting like rusty hasn't been out of control or that oscar has done anything to develop Wade.  Foolish as eff  in here.
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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2018, 09:37:21 AM »
let's check in on Wade's regression


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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2018, 10:31:37 AM »
Regressing all the way to First Team All Big 12 selection
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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2018, 10:58:02 AM »
Regressing all the way to First Team All Big 12 selection

I just wish he would play a little more consistent for us.

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #94 on: February 08, 2018, 12:35:52 PM »
Updated. Our SOS has bumped to top 50 in kenpom FWIW.


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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #95 on: February 08, 2018, 12:48:29 PM »
let's check in on Wade's regression



that 3P%   :eek:

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #96 on: February 08, 2018, 01:36:23 PM »
let's check in on Wade's regression



that 3P%   :eek:

It's hard to believe that he is selfishly not shooting more.

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #97 on: February 08, 2018, 05:04:48 PM »
We survived when Stokes got injured.  If Wade gets injured, then we are screwed.   So to me his value goes past pure stats.   In one year he will gone.  Brown will be gone.  Stokes will be gone.  Ain't much after this.   The recruiting is very poor for next year and the next.  The abyss is coming if we stay the current course.

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Re: Have we sunk so far into the abyss that no decent coach will come here?
« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2018, 05:01:43 AM »
I'm glad to see Wade maintaining his pace so far.  We'll see if this continues on the back half of the conference season, if it doesn't this team is in deep trouble. 


And just so I can keep things straight on my spread sheet of oscar supporters, the goEing is that Wade didn't regress from FR to SO years right? 
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« Reply #99 on: February 09, 2018, 06:59:39 AM »
Put me on whatever spreadsheet you want, but no, he did not regress from FR to SO year. Not a huge jump, but definitely not a regression as he was a much more efficient player and a better shooter.