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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2017, 10:18:03 PM »
I'm thinking teams probs aren't gonna keep hitting 40%+ from 3 against us, and we'll start hitting at a marginally higher % and some crap will straighten out.

We can't rough ridin' throw away possessions on offense and gift them on defense (oboards) like we did against Baylor, or we won't beat anyone.

We are getting beat of the bounce too much in iso and giving up quality shots. Still have to play Morris, Evans twice. It will improve, but we must improve.

Baylor's guards couldn't hit the % they hit yesterday in a shoot around, is what I'm saying. I'm not going to look it up, but I'd bet they've had games where they had fewer 3pa than they made yesterday.

our perimeter defense is embarrassingly bad, how can you not see that?

Bro, we're 336th in luck, it's right there on kenpom.com. 43% is stupid absurd lucky 3pt%.
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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2017, 11:18:48 PM »
I'm thinking teams probs aren't gonna keep hitting 40%+ from 3 against us, and we'll start hitting at a marginally higher % and some crap will straighten out.

We can't rough ridin' throw away possessions on offense and gift them on defense (oboards) like we did against Baylor, or we won't beat anyone.

We are getting beat of the bounce too much in iso and giving up quality shots. Still have to play Morris, Evans twice. It will improve, but we must improve.

Baylor's guards couldn't hit the % they hit yesterday in a shoot around, is what I'm saying. I'm not going to look it up, but I'd bet they've had games where they had fewer 3pa than they made yesterday.

our perimeter defense is embarrassingly bad, how can you not see that?

Bro, we're 336th in luck, it's right there on kenpom.com. 43% is stupid absurd lucky 3pt%.

That doesn't have anything to do with kenpoms luck. But yea our defensive 3% is not sustainable.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2017, 02:11:37 PM »
1/3 of the way done with B12 season.

55.6 2pt%, 37.6 3pt%, 77.7 FT%, and + 4.6 on TO% Differ.  All great things this team is doing.

Defense, the 49.5 2pt% and 35 OR% allowed are a bit higher than ideal, but 45.3 on 3pt% continues to be a big issue.   Last 4 years, Weber teams have allowed 33.1% (3 of 4 years were below 34.0). Last 4, ave was 48.9 on 2pt.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2017, 06:18:12 PM »




As I mentioned in the Big 12 thread, this is some of the best shooting a K-State team has ever seen. In the 3PT era for K-State basketball; best 2PT%, 5th best 3PT%, and best eFG%. Granted, things can change with a lot of Big 12 games left, but that's still pretty impressive. oscar and his staff have developed individual players and an offensive philosophy of sharing the ball (62% assist rate) to get good shots.

That said, the defensive issues in the Big 12 are still a problem. If this team was defending similar to regular oscar coached teams (namely eFG%, 3PT% defense, and dboarding) then they'd probably be a 1 loss Big 12 team (or better) and in the conversation to compete with KU for the league title.

Individually the balance of scoring, especially from the top 6 players, is impressive.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2017, 06:58:38 PM »
I think our 3pt defense has been better the last two games. Just haven't been lucky.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2017, 07:13:07 PM »
Yep FAN, our 5 starters have 95,93,92,92,87 pts in the 7 league games. Great balance.

Stokes has double figures in his last 9 games. Ave 5.3 Ast to go along with 13.6 Pts in B12 play

Starting bigs shooting 63.6 FG% ( 69.3 eFG) in the 7 games. Maurice 5-6 on FGs too.

Barry getting his shooting touch back. 56% on 2pt, 41% on 3pt his last 6 games

I've been too hard on Wes of late. His 17 Reb and 11 Ast were big in the 2 wins this week.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2017, 08:01:12 PM »
I think our 3pt defense has been better the last two games. Just haven't been lucky.

You can control your three point defense "luck" to an extent by guarding shooters. I paid attention to this last night because I don't really buy in to this lottery thing. They hit one guarded three and one that was about three feet beyond the arc. In this day and age of college basketball most players have three or four guys on the floor capable of hitting open three pointers.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2017, 08:32:55 PM »
Wvu shot less than 40% from 3, fyi
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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2017, 08:44:52 AM »
Team stats for our 10 games vs Top 100 opponents.



1) Defense just isn't good enough. Poor vs eFG% and OR% in particular.

2) 1st half reflects our problems in the last 2 games. Some games we've had enough offense to stay in it, but too many others we haven't.

3) The line between winning and losing is very fine. -4 point differential over 678 possessions. We could have easily flipped our 4-6 record in those games with some better stretches of basketball. Close isn't good enough though, wins matter.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #60 on: January 30, 2017, 07:27:17 PM »
In games against top 50 opponents away from Bramlage (Mary, KU, Tech, OSU, ISU, Tenn), K-State's offense has been really good.

But the defense has been really bad, especially in the first half. Its really hard to make up for allowing 1.24 points per possession over 200 possessions.


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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2017, 08:22:25 PM »
in those 6 first games at top 50 teams.... We are allowing 12 3PA in the 1st half alone and hitting 48%.
So a 3PA on 35% of 1st half Possessions.  Almost 18 pts on average from 3pt in just one half. Not good.

Our 60% FT shooting (42-70) last 3 games is a bad funk we need to straighten out right now too.


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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2017, 09:12:11 PM »
5 returners are playing significant roles. Are they better?



I'd say for the most part, yes.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2017, 11:39:26 PM »
Yep, Shooting and the Ast/TO numbers good improvement. OR across the board worse

Pleasantly surprise stat is Ervin rebounding ability.

Stats that I knew but still happy with imorovement in 16-17 are Wade eFG, Brown steals, Wes DR

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2017, 09:56:21 AM »

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2017, 02:25:59 PM »
Stokes now 14.3 Pts, 5.1 Ast in B12 games with 43% 3pt & 79% FT. Like those numbers a lot. I just wish he would not take or be forced into taking so many driving shots/lay ups  in half court.

60% FT shooting the last 5 games.  It's been a huge issue late in the past 4 games.  DJamer slumping to a 11-27 skid. Wes just 21 of last 35. 

7 of our 10 Conference games, we have forced between 24.4-30.6 on TO%.  We are almost at 25.0 in B12 games. Such an asset when teams can only score on 3/4 of their Poss.

Last 5 conference games, we have held Opp. to 42.9% on 2pt. That's Baylor good. 47.2% counting all B12 games.  Our lousy 3pt D gets talked about a lot but this 2pt D is almost as impressive as TO%

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2017, 11:01:25 AM »




sys nailed the The Flush regression to his mean.

Stokes needs to quit shooting 2s.

Wade has been pretty good in Big 12 play.

Maurice's per 100s aren't terrible.

Wes has missed an incredible amount of key FTs for being a 70% FT shooter.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2017, 12:37:24 PM »
sys nailed the The Flush regression to his mean.

wade has failed to regress, however.  if i had to call his failure anything other than random chance, i'd say he's been a little more discriminating in shot selection.  like most three-shooting bigs, he needs his feet under him and his momentum controlled.  brown, for good or for ill, has a lower threshold for what he considers a good shot.
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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2017, 01:36:29 PM »
Brown has really struggled the past 5 games(4 B12 plus Tenn).  He is 5-20 on 3pt, 13-36 on 2pt, with 12 TOs. And has attempted only 4 FTs

The first 7 conference gms, 4 of them he was above 57% on eFg and 1 game right at 50%. Also only 7 TOs and 12-18 on FTs.  53% shooting in those 7 gms, 35% 3pt




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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2017, 02:26:42 PM »
It's pretty clear Wes isn't confident at the line late and close.

Maurice's per 100 stats aren't an endorsement for more tick, that's obviously going to decrease with more time and his defense is tragic. At this point moving Wade to the five when DJamer needs a breather is a better option.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2017, 10:09:56 AM »


The The Flush shooting regression continues. oscar's job may ride on him finding his shot in the last 6 games.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #71 on: February 12, 2017, 01:36:16 PM »
Brown's shooting issues make me very sad

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #72 on: February 12, 2017, 01:45:59 PM »
Brown is the worst shooter and basically tied for most minutes in conference play. I guess he's OK at creating TO's and taking care of the ball, at least.

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« Reply #73 on: February 12, 2017, 01:49:50 PM »
Brown is the worst shooter and basically tied for most minutes in conference play. I guess he's OK at creating TO's and taking care of the ball, at least.

I'm assuming if Diarra was able to play this year that he would've taken some of Brown's minutes. Ervin can only play so much, so he's not going to take more than he already has. And oscar has been unwilling to play a combination of Stokes, Wes, Sneed, Wade, and DJamer which I think could have been an answer with Brown's shooting struggles.

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Re: 3-5-17 K-State Player Per 100 Ratings and Team ADV Stats
« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2017, 03:58:29 PM »
brown is a good player.  he's not playing too much, maybe shooting a little too much.  which is the rest of the team's fault.
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