The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look

[sys]

no one writes a letter to denounce a paper for being poorly done.  if it's good, you read it and maybe someday cite it.  if it sucks, you stop reading on the first page and move on to one of the five billion other papers published that week.

[chum1]

no one writes a letter to denounce a paper for being poorly done.

Except when they don't say what they really mean.

[Emo EMAW]

I was wondering about that chum. I could totally get behind attacking the quality of the paper. But the main thesis, as the article presented it, seems fair.

I don't think so.  She reached the wrong conclusion. 

[SdK]

What conclusion was that?

[renocat]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-ore-mayor-calls-for-free-speech-and-anti-sharia-rallies-to-be-canceled-after-stabbings/ar-BBBFVyn
The mayor of Portland Oregon wants to squash and prohibit pro-Trump rallies in the name of preventing violence from the  militant left anarchists who have vowed to destroy Trump and America.    The mayor reasons that racist hatred spewed  by Trump will incite the tolerant left to go beserk if Trump cheerleaders meet.  The PC is using violence and intimidation to squelch free speech and the liberties of Americans.  People listen to  Dax.

[Dugout DickStone]

I don't like that drastic of a step but protecting those who are weaker is an important government interest

[DQ12]

I don't like that drastic of a step but protecting those who are weaker is an important government interest

So make sure a lot of police are at the rallies. I agree with the ACLU -- this seems like a pretty obvious 1A violation.

[Dugout DickStone]

If they don't think they are capable to protect the weak and fragile who need protection, what kind of police force are they?

[DQ12]

even if the state is afraid of what people might do in response to otherwise permissible speech, prohibiting that speech has never been a constitutionally permissible option.  crap can get really weird (even relative to the current status) if that starts to become a usable reason for shutting down speech.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

Seems pretty on point

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

So, if you're alt-left anifa you can destroy crap and hurt people with impunity. But if you are "Trump Free Speech" Portland is off limits.  How predictably and delightfully neo-fascist. Maybe the "conservatives" should wear stars so the police know who to intern to "protect the public".

I don't see any constitutional issues here, nope...

[Dugout DickStone]

Agreed.  They just need to get some more police to protect the weakest segments of our society, and arrest those using violence.

[DQ12]

Agreed.  They just need to get some more police to protect the weakest segments of our society, and arrest those using violence.

Yep.  That's the solution.  Call in the national guard.

[Dugout DickStone]

Agreed.  They just need to get some more police to protect the weakest segments of our society, and arrest those using violence.

Yep.  That's the solution.  Call in the national guard.

Provide a buffer between the aggressors and the weakly.  It has been done before.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Batshit

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-campus-mob-came-for-meand-you-professor-could-be-next-1496187482?mod=e2tw

[DQ12]

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-trump-has-stoked-the-campus-debate-on-speech-and-violence

[sonofdaxjones]

Is this where we talk about Cultural Appropriation?

I felt so bad for little Katy Perry, crying her eyes out because they gave her such a hard time about having cornrows.

Then I read a story about two ladies in Portland who were protested in closing down their burrito/taco truck because in an article about their delicious business, they talked about how they learned their methods by watching the ladies make tortilla's in Mexico. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'd say the cultural appropriation stuff belongs in the liberals losing their mind thread, except it really doesn't have anything to do with Trump. Maybe it deserves its own thread. It's ridiculous enough for it.

[sonofdaxjones]

I'd say the cultural appropriation stuff belongs in the liberals losing their mind thread, except it really doesn't have anything to do with Trump. Maybe it deserves its own thread. It's ridiculous enough for it.

True, need to think of a good thread title.

[Rage Against the McKee]

"A white hombre is a bad hombre."

[Rage Against the McKee]

"Please pass the queso and Don Julio as I act like a sophisticated adult"

[sys]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40710165

[sys]

the most evil religion in the world has to be Islam.

It’s tempting to say all religions are bad, and I do say all religions are bad, but it’s a worse temptation to say all religions are equally bad because they’re not,” he added.

“If you look at the actual impact that different religions have on the world it’s quite apparent that at present the most evil religion in the world has to be Islam.

“It’s terribly important to modify that because of course that doesn’t mean all Muslims are evil, very far from it. Individual Muslims suffer more from Islam than anyone else.

“They suffer from the homophobia, the misogyny, the joylessness which is preached by extreme Islam, Isis and the Iranian regime.

“So it is a major evil in the world, we do have to combat it, but we don’t do what Trump did and say all Muslims should be shut out of the country. That’s draconian, that’s illiberal, inhumane and wicked. I am against Islam not least because of the unpleasant effects it has on the lives of Muslims.

[slackcat]

"You conspicuously did not quote a source when accusing me of 'abusive speech'.

"Why didn't you check your facts - or at least have the common courtesy to alert me - before summarily cancelling my event?"

[chum1]

Good. Dawkins should face at least some blowback for his bombastic rhetoric. He's not as pure and innocent of it like he likes to think he is.

[star seed 7]

the most evil religion in the world has to be Islam.

It’s tempting to say all religions are bad, and I do say all religions are bad, but it’s a worse temptation to say all religions are equally bad because they’re not,” he added.

“If you look at the actual impact that different religions have on the world it’s quite apparent that at present the most evil religion in the world has to be Islam.

“It’s terribly important to modify that because of course that doesn’t mean all Muslims are evil, very far from it. Individual Muslims suffer more from Islam than anyone else.

“They suffer from the homophobia, the misogyny, the joylessness which is preached by extreme Islam, Isis and the Iranian regime.

“So it is a major evil in the world, we do have to combat it, but we don’t do what Trump did and say all Muslims should be shut out of the country. That’s draconian, that’s illiberal, inhumane and wicked. I am against Islam not least because of the unpleasant effects it has on the lives of Muslims.

This is pretty good