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Re: DNC
« Reply #750 on: July 28, 2016, 11:56:02 PM »
Pretty big tent indeed if Katy Perry and Sarah Silverman can fit into it
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Re: DNC
« Reply #751 on: July 29, 2016, 12:01:38 AM »
Well I'm not sure he knows what identify politics is. Vote for me because I'm a woman is something that resonates because slightly over half of the populace are women. Vote for me because I'm black, hispanic, gay, generally won't work out so well and I've never seen that in a national campaign. If he meant that Hillary should sell something other than her dominant chromosome, then he should heed your advice and be better with words.

oh come on.  the rainbow coalition of speakers at both conventions were not chosen at random, and i'm sure you don't think they were.
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Re: DNC
« Reply #752 on: July 29, 2016, 12:07:22 AM »
I'm not very political but the demo's seem to have an external locus of control on most of their stances.

"You didn't do well in school, it was the bankers fault!"

"You shot a killed someone? Its the teachers fault!"

Not that the republicans are any better but I really wish we had an internal locus of control/accountability party. All the scapegoating and name calling is becoming exceedingly juvenile across the spectrum.

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« Reply #753 on: July 29, 2016, 12:09:47 AM »
Well I'm not sure he knows what identify politics is. Vote for me because I'm a woman is something that resonates because slightly over half of the populace are women. Vote for me because I'm black, hispanic, gay, generally won't work out so well and I've never seen that in a national campaign. If he meant that Hillary should sell something other than her dominant chromosome, then he should heed your advice and be better with words.

oh come on.  the rainbow coalition of speakers at both conventions were not chosen at random, and i'm sure you don't think they were.

Sure, but I'm not sure they all qualify as identity politics. I don't consider the crazy black cop and the Muslim prayer guy identity politics. I'm not as familiar with what happened this week to make that determination. Obviously there was lots of "SHE'S A WOMAN!!!" this week. If they could have gotten away with calling themselves the party of white people, I think the pubs would have done just that last week. So maybe he was right  :dunno: I just have a hard time with him using blacks, hispanics, and gays as examples because I'm not quite sure how that works.

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Re: DNC
« Reply #754 on: July 29, 2016, 12:21:53 AM »
aaannnddd another corner of the DNC gets hacked..  :lol:



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-democrats-exclusive-idUSKCN1082Y7

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Re: DNC
« Reply #755 on: July 29, 2016, 01:11:19 AM »
If they could have gotten away with calling themselves the party of white people, I think the pubs would have done just that last week.

it's the other way around, i think.  objectively, they are the party of white people, but need their parade of minorities to help their white voters not feel racist about being in the party of white people.

identity politics is complicated.  to some extent all politics is identity driven; every politician has to sell some story of who they are.  it's just a matter of degree.
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« Reply #756 on: July 29, 2016, 05:38:06 AM »
When she pointed out bernie during her speech, bernie looked like she just announced that he was going to be publicly water boarded.  He must really have something big waiting for him on the other side of this.

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Re: DNC
« Reply #757 on: July 29, 2016, 07:35:38 AM »
No, that's definitely identity politics, that stupid ass passage from that pub you posted did not describe identity politics.

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Also, this parade of identity politics is condescending and embarrassing for everyone participating. Why can’t we just treat people like people? It would be nice if the Democrats had some African-Americans, Hispanics, gays, or women speak who did not think that their race/orientation/sex was the only interesting thing about themselves or even the most interesting thing about themselves.

he wasn't describing identity politics, he was complaining about it.  without knowing exactly who he was complaining about, it's a bit fuzzy, but to me his complaint sounds like very nearly the same thing - the emphasis of membership in a group identity over ideas.

In essence, fascism.
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Re: DNC
« Reply #758 on: July 29, 2016, 09:29:15 AM »
aaannnddd another corner of the DNC gets hacked..  :lol:



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-democrats-exclusive-idUSKCN1082Y7

Every communication within the DNC should be subject to an open records request, anyway. Same with the RNC. Maybe they already are, but if they aren't, they should be.

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« Reply #759 on: July 29, 2016, 09:30:45 AM »
Yes, agreed.

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Re: DNC
« Reply #760 on: July 29, 2016, 09:53:51 AM »
aaannnddd another corner of the DNC gets hacked..  :lol:



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-democrats-exclusive-idUSKCN1082Y7

Every communication within the DNC should be subject to an open records request, anyway. Same with the RNC. Maybe they already are, but if they aren't, they should be.

as surprising as it sounds, the RNC and the DNC are private institutions what are not affiliated with the government. they are not funded by taxpayer money, and therefore, their records are just as private as those of any company.

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« Reply #761 on: July 29, 2016, 09:57:39 AM »
aaannnddd another corner of the DNC gets hacked..  :lol:



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-democrats-exclusive-idUSKCN1082Y7

Every communication within the DNC should be subject to an open records request, anyway. Same with the RNC. Maybe they already are, but if they aren't, they should be.

as surprising as it sounds, the RNC and the DNC are private institutions what are not affiliated with the government. they are not funded by taxpayer money, and therefore, their records are just as private as those of any company.

yeah, which is also why they can push for their preferred candidate (like both did a ton this year with varying success).

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« Reply #762 on: July 29, 2016, 10:00:11 AM »
aaannnddd another corner of the DNC gets hacked..  :lol:



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-democrats-exclusive-idUSKCN1082Y7

Every communication within the DNC should be subject to an open records request, anyway. Same with the RNC. Maybe they already are, but if they aren't, they should be.

as surprising as it sounds, the RNC and the DNC are private institutions what are not affiliated with the government. they are not funded by taxpayer money, and therefore, their records are just as private as those of any company.

They absolutely are affiliated with the government and should not have a right to any privacy.

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Re: DNC
« Reply #763 on: July 29, 2016, 10:03:52 AM »
I guess we're all affiliated with the government in a sense.

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« Reply #764 on: July 29, 2016, 10:09:59 AM »
I guess we're all affiliated with the government in a sense.

In a sense, yes. We don't all get taxpayer funding like political parties do, though.

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« Reply #765 on: July 29, 2016, 10:50:00 AM »
I guess we're all affiliated with the government in a sense.

In a sense, yes. We don't all get taxpayer funding like political parties do, though.

private donations, not taxpayer funding.

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« Reply #766 on: July 29, 2016, 10:51:27 AM »
I guess we're all affiliated with the government in a sense.

In a sense, yes. We don't all get taxpayer funding like political parties do, though.

private donations, not taxpayer funding.

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http://www.fec.gov/info/chthree.htm

There is also significant public cost at the state level for those states that hold primaries instead of caucuses.

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Re: DNC
« Reply #767 on: July 29, 2016, 02:26:46 PM »
Party of transparency.  :lol:
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Re: DNC
« Reply #768 on: July 29, 2016, 02:28:05 PM »
When we say democratic, we mean just a few insiders colluding to retain power and exploit tax payers. #thinkprogress
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Re: DNC
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Re: DNC
« Reply #770 on: May 22, 2017, 01:05:51 PM »
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Re: DNC
« Reply #771 on: May 22, 2017, 01:09:40 PM »
It's going down guys.  Wikileaks is bringing down the Democrats.

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« Reply #772 on: May 22, 2017, 01:12:23 PM »
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Re: DNC
« Reply #773 on: May 22, 2017, 01:32:40 PM »
FINALLY

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Re: DNC
« Reply #774 on: May 22, 2017, 01:33:17 PM »
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