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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41525 on: July 28, 2015, 03:29:17 PM »
DM isn't going to let Ned waste Zobrist on the bench. Omar will be riding pine once everyone is healthy.

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« Reply #41526 on: July 28, 2015, 03:29:52 PM »

Just to make it clear, I also want to see Zobrist as a starter.  I just worry Ned is going to emphasize the team chemistry and utilize Zobrist as a fill-in when Gordon gets back.

I understand that worry, but I also don't think Dayton traded Manaea and Brooks for a postseason backup.
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Re: The Royals
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41528 on: July 28, 2015, 03:33:42 PM »
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41529 on: July 28, 2015, 03:34:31 PM »
DM isn't going to let Ned waste Zobrist on the bench. Omar will be riding pine once everyone is healthy.
https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/626127088781692928

I doubt Ned would do that even if DM let him. Zobrist will play 5 or 6 games per week, but he may do it at 2 or 3 positions.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41530 on: July 28, 2015, 03:36:04 PM »

DM isn't going to let Ned waste Zobrist on the bench. Omar will be riding pine once everyone is healthy.
https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/626127088781692928

I doubt Ned would do that even if DM let him. Zobrist will play 5 or 6 games per week, but he may do it at 2 or 3 positions.

This seems likely. He can play for anyone except Salvy. It's crazy really.

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« Reply #41531 on: July 28, 2015, 03:39:08 PM »

DM isn't going to let Ned waste Zobrist on the bench. Omar will be riding pine once everyone is healthy.
https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/626127088781692928

I doubt Ned would do that even if DM let him. Zobrist will play 5 or 6 games per week, but he may do it at 2 or 3 positions.

This seems likely. He can play for anyone except Salvy. It's crazy really.
He's only played 3 games at 3rd base so it will be interesting to see who gets DFA'd: Cuthbert, Orlando, or Dyson. Probably Cuthbert, but Moose will need to play every day until September.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41532 on: July 28, 2015, 03:40:18 PM »
Cuthbert will get optioned not DFAd
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« Reply #41533 on: July 28, 2015, 03:40:53 PM »
Nobody else is getting DFA'd.
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« Reply #41534 on: July 28, 2015, 03:42:38 PM »
Cut and Paulo both have options. It will be interesting to see who goes, it won't surprise me if it's Paulo, though they also may want Cut to play more regularly at this point.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41535 on: July 28, 2015, 03:45:40 PM »
Cuthbert gets optioned.

Zobrist takes a rest day from LF while Dyson or Paulo play. Then Zobrist comes back to give Moose a day off. I imagine that's how it will work for every IF position he covers for until Gordo comes back. Please Odin, smile upon our guys and bless them with good health.

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« Reply #41536 on: July 28, 2015, 03:48:03 PM »
Paulo makes more sense to me. No need to carry 5 OF.

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« Reply #41537 on: July 28, 2015, 03:49:42 PM »
Cuthbert gets optioned.

Zobrist takes a rest day from LF while Dyson or Paulo play. Then Zobrist comes back to give Moose a day off. I imagine that's how it will work for every IF position he covers for until Gordo comes back. Please Odin, smile upon our guys and bless them with good health.
Zobrist hasn't played 3rd since 2010. I'd be shocked if Ned ever puts him there.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41538 on: July 28, 2015, 03:52:27 PM »
Cuthbert gets optioned.

Zobrist takes a rest day from LF while Dyson or Paulo play. Then Zobrist comes back to give Moose a day off. I imagine that's how it will work for every IF position he covers for until Gordo comes back. Please Odin, smile upon our guys and bless them with good health.
Zobrist hasn't played 3rd since 2010. I'd be shocked if Ned ever puts him there.

I hadn't looked that far. I still think Paulo brings more to the table as a sub than Cuthbert, but your situation is probably more likely.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41539 on: July 28, 2015, 03:54:41 PM »
WE HAVE TOO MANY GOOD PLAYERS :runaway:

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41540 on: July 28, 2015, 03:54:42 PM »
Ned says Zo will likely bat 6th.

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« Reply #41541 on: July 28, 2015, 03:55:17 PM »

WE HAVE TOO MANY GOOD PLAYERS :runaway:

September call ups will be fun. As will playoff series rosters.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41542 on: July 28, 2015, 04:18:29 PM »
Big thing about Zobrist is, obviously, position flexibility. We won't have to add another IF for the playoff roster, opening another OF spot. Gore is gonna steal any base he wants in the playoffs.
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41543 on: July 28, 2015, 04:19:32 PM »
Ned says Zo will likely bat 6th.
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41544 on: July 28, 2015, 04:20:52 PM »
We are pretty well set.  It will be interesting to see what moves are still made. 

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« Reply #41546 on: July 28, 2015, 05:13:19 PM »
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41547 on: July 28, 2015, 05:26:35 PM »
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The Kansas City Royals' offense has been good this year, but they've gotten less from second base than any AL team this season, something they addressed with their acquisition of Ben Zobrist. Oakland probably wasn't going to make Zobrist the qualifying offer to get a draft pick, so landing one of the Royals' top five prospects (albeit one with a couple of major red flags) plus a second arm is a reasonable return.

Zobrist has been one of the most productive position players in baseball for several years now, since a swing change after he was traded from Houston to Tampa Bay turned him from a near-zero-power guy into someone who averaged 14 homers a year with the Rays, along with patience and above-average defense at multiple positions. He hasn't been that player this year, now 34 years old and playing four months in a strong pitchers' park, although the plate discipline remains superb. But even this reduced version of Zobrist is a mammoth improvement over the black hole the Royals have had at second base this year, as the Omar Infante contract has been every bit as bad as expected -- he's been barely above replacement-level over the year-plus since the Royals signed him. Zobrist is at least a win better for the rest of this season, possibly more if his defense at second base bounces back with the move to K.C., where he'll be playing between an excellent defensive shortstop and an excellent defensive first baseman too and thus may have less ground to cover.

Whether this is a good return for Oakland or a great one depends on exactly what version of Sean Manaea they're getting. While Eric Longenhagen saw great velocity when Manaea made a rehab start in Arizona, I saw Manaea just two weeks ago, and he couldn't hold that velocity at all, pitching at 89-91 mph in the fifth inning before he was pulled. He hides the ball well and his slider is consistently above-average, but the changeup is too firm and he's now missed time in pro ball with hip labrum surgery (dating back to college), a strained abdominal muscle, and a groin injury, limiting him to 153 innings over the 24 months since he signed (all coming since the start of 2014). The deception and the slider are probably enough for him to be a starter even with a fastball that's just average, assuming he can handle the workload, but more towards the back of a typical rotation than the front of one.

The A's also get Aaron Brooks, who entered 2015 with a 43.88 ERA in the majors but cut it in half with two not-great relief appearances for the Royals. He's a strike-thrower with fringy stuff and a flyball tendency, the kind of guy the A's love to acquire because the formula can work in their ballpark (e.g., Tommy Milone, Kendall Graveman), but in most organizations he'd be a swingman or reliever.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #41548 on: July 28, 2015, 06:18:23 PM »
I'm going to start being a huge Royals fan!

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« Reply #41549 on: July 28, 2015, 06:19:15 PM »
Welcome to the thread, me!

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