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Title: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
explaining to friends that come into town that no we probably shouldn't go to p&l
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on June 11, 2013, 10:53:33 PM
Trying to convince people you live in Missouri.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2013, 10:53:57 PM
"Oklahoma Joe's is probably my favorite"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EuroCat on June 11, 2013, 10:56:46 PM
"Oklahoma Joe's is probably my favorite"
"Yeah, it's totally in a gas station!!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2013, 10:58:27 PM
(http://kbuuk.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/facial-hair-types-beard-styles.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2013, 10:59:01 PM
"I work for Cerner... yeah they're hiring like crazy."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2013, 10:59:14 PM
(http://mma-gear-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/affli.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 10:59:41 PM
Being white.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2013, 11:02:00 PM
(http://static1.shop.indiatimes.com/images/products/additional/original/B1018398_View_1/fashion/casuals/skechers-black-men-shoes-60488.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
(http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/372/372,1326887413,1/stock-photo-two-tied-garbage-bags-on-white-background-93018166.jpg)

+

(http://www.bottlebill.org/images/recycling/recyclingbin.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2013, 11:03:46 PM
(http://photos2.zillow.com/p_d/IS-a803y46nw7kt.jpg)

look at that prairie village charmer!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 11, 2013, 11:08:17 PM
Luxury SUV's, particularly the smaller "sport" package. Good god, I work around 135th and Metcalf and can't drive 2 blocks without seeing a black range rover HSE. 5 years ago those people were driving BMW X3's. And 10 years ago, Hummer H3's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 11:09:56 PM
Making fun of kc, even though it's a pretty decent place to live.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EuroCat on June 11, 2013, 11:14:13 PM
"yeah i cheer for KU in basketball and K-State in football"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
Caring about college sports more than pro sports.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
Making fun of kc, even though it's a pretty decent place to live.

this is a good one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2013, 11:17:44 PM
Luxury SUV's, particularly the smaller "sport" package. Good god, I work around 135th and Metcalf and can't drive 2 blocks without seeing a black range rover HSE. 5 years ago those people were driving BMW X3's. And 10 years ago, Hummer H3's.

more than likely they were driving X5's 5 years ago, not X3's.  X3's are reserved for 28 year old junior sales associate chicks leasing their way into 20 years of debt and grandmas finally retired and buying their dream car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on June 11, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
Caring about college sports more than pro sports.

there are a lot of chiefs and royals dorks here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2013, 11:18:20 PM
Making fun of kc, even though it's a pretty decent place to live.

this is a good one

it makes itself an easy target
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
well, sure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 11:20:33 PM
Bragging about arriving at the airport 15 minutes before a flight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2013, 11:20:53 PM
"yeah he lives down in Overland Park somewhere..."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 11:21:52 PM
Complaining that the airport is 30 min outside of town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2013, 11:25:56 PM
"you been to Hollywood yet?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 11:31:31 PM
Being jealous of St. Louis.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Scary Smart on June 11, 2013, 11:31:48 PM
"You running in that 5K on Saturday morning in Corporate Woods to help support that one thing? Awesome, me too!"
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2013, 11:32:03 PM
plaza.   plaza lights. 

defending Kansas City Strip steak vs ny strip steak

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate16 on June 11, 2013, 11:34:40 PM
"Where are you going tonight? (I respond "Waldo") Where's Waldo?!? OH WAIT HAHAHAHA"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate16 on June 11, 2013, 11:35:25 PM
"I work for Cerner... yeah they're hiring like crazy."
Guh, for real have said this a million times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Testy Westy on June 11, 2013, 11:36:16 PM
"Denver's airport is just as far from their downtown...if not further."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2013, 11:36:23 PM
"Ha. I know, we'll all get shot at Westport, but it's cool."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 11, 2013, 11:37:30 PM
"yep, a gigabit.  it's like, a thousand megabits.  well, no, I can't get it here, not yet.  but soon!"

"the roads around the plaza are so confusing!"

"ugh, the traffic here sucks." <-- even though it totally doesn't
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2013, 11:37:39 PM
"She's a former "model"? Ya, go for it dude!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2013, 11:39:01 PM
Ya, don't do franchises here other than Oklahoma joes.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 11, 2013, 11:39:19 PM
Being jealous of St. Louis.

Shut your mouth.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Testy Westy on June 11, 2013, 11:40:20 PM
"Having our pro stadiums away from downtown is better because we like to tailgate and it would totally ruin it."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 11, 2013, 11:40:42 PM
"the northland is just like johnson county, except I got a way better deal on my house!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 11, 2013, 11:41:16 PM
Being jealous of St. Louis.

Shut your mouth.

yeah, no idea what that weirdo is talking about.  I've been to st louis once, place sucks.  this is the first time I've thought about it since I got back from that trip.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Testy Westy on June 11, 2013, 11:41:36 PM
"It's the city of fountains"

(nobody else in America is aware of this)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2013, 11:41:45 PM
"Man, splitting taxes in KS & MO sucks, MAN!!!!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 11:42:26 PM
"It's the city of fountains"

(nobody else in America is aware of this)

Paris of the plains.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EuroCat on June 11, 2013, 11:42:33 PM
"the northland is just like johnson county, except I got a way better deal on my house!"
:lol: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 11, 2013, 11:42:43 PM
"1%?  what are they doing with that 1%?  sure not fixing those goddamn potholes, are they?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Testy Westy on June 11, 2013, 11:45:41 PM
(http://blog.therealtechn9ne.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/techn9ne.jpg) > (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2013/04/jay-z-open-letter/_jcr_content/par/cn_contentwell/par-main/cn_blogpost/cn_float_container/cn_image.size.jay-z-song-cuba.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2013, 11:49:25 PM
"Oh, you wanna do PNL tonight?"-----> :clac:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 11:51:37 PM
Personally knowing someone whacky has mumped, despite never have met whacking.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Testy Westy on June 11, 2013, 11:53:25 PM
'good BBQ' means covering meat in good BBQ sauce
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2013, 11:59:26 PM
Rocking out at rockfest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bones129 on June 12, 2013, 12:00:22 AM

The road construction, orange cone, and detour capital of the US.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shacks on June 12, 2013, 12:28:10 AM
Being excited that this is finally the year the Royals turn it around, only to be crushed yet again when they go through their annual 20-game losing streak
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bones129 on June 12, 2013, 12:34:40 AM
Being excited that this is finally the year the Royals turn it around, only to be crushed yet again when they go through their annual 20-game losing streak

This, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 12, 2013, 12:55:14 AM
Kansas City: It's the new Chicago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2013, 01:03:36 AM
Kansas City: It's the new Chicago

Laughably wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 12, 2013, 01:12:44 AM
Kansas City: It's the new Chicago

Laughably wrong.

Just what I've been hearing, man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 12, 2013, 08:06:00 AM
costco
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2013, 08:16:23 AM
"I bought a Royals season ticket package to get priority for playoff tickets"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2013, 08:22:59 AM
Rocking out at rockfest.

omgggg yesss love rockfest. so kansas city. kansas citys national brand revolves around rockfest. also i would add kanrocksas. staples of kansas city life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2013, 08:26:24 AM
kc "bbq"

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:29:43 AM
Hanging your schools flag in front of your prairie village charmer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:30:26 AM
"Ya, the new house is kind of far south at 160th and ridgeview but we got SO MUCH MORE FOR OUR MONEY"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:31:19 AM
"Yeah, I'd love to go to a concert at swope park...IF I WANTED TO GET SHOT"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:32:39 AM
My dad convincing a young ben ji that there is nothing good in missouri and no reason to go there at all unless you want to get shot and mugged(besides the one time a year we would go to the plaza lighting)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2013, 08:33:26 AM
Hanging your schools flag in front of your prairie village charmer

oh man, good one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2013, 08:34:06 AM
"boulevard makes some really good beers"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:34:21 AM
Wesport has lost what made it great 10 years ago, way to commercialized(sp) now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 12, 2013, 08:36:56 AM
ikea is going to be one of these things. talking about it already is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2013, 08:37:17 AM
The rolling cop convention that happens on the bumper of African American men with Missouri license plates if they cross into Leawood.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:39:43 AM
Crossroads has so much character
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:45:28 AM
The rolling cop convention that happens on the bumper of African American men with Missouri license plates if they cross into Leawood.

Looking down on people with missouri or wyandotte county plates

People who live in brookside putting a brookside sticker on their car so people dont look down on their missouri plates
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate16 on June 12, 2013, 08:46:23 AM
"I heard that was a ku bar"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Scary Smart on June 12, 2013, 08:48:08 AM
"Yeah, I always go to Missouri to buy my gas and liquor."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:48:53 AM
House divided front license plates
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2013, 08:51:31 AM
-College logo rocks in front yard flower garden.



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 12, 2013, 08:52:57 AM
"Passengers can drink in the car on the Missouri side ....   I know, awesome right?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate16 on June 12, 2013, 08:53:29 AM
A majority of these are just "JOCO things"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2013, 08:55:05 AM
"Yeah, these roads suck (after snowstorm), but just imagine how bad the MO side is".
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 08:56:56 AM
Never go east of troost...no seriously
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 12, 2013, 08:57:38 AM
to commercialized(sp)

you put the (sp) next to the wrong word
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 12, 2013, 09:10:16 AM
The rolling cop convention that happens on the bumper of African American men with Missouri license plates if they cross into Leawood.

guess you've never seen the movie "Crash"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
At Margaritas: "Yup, That line indicates the flood of '92 and that one..."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2013, 09:26:05 AM
"I'll be there in 20 min..."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 12, 2013, 09:45:42 AM
This whole thread is like "Dallas things minus 18-24 months"...

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 12, 2013, 09:46:24 AM
This whole thread is like "Dallas things minus 18-24 months"...

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't think that joke really applies like you want it to
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2013, 10:07:13 AM
This whole thread is like "Dallas things minus 18-24 months"...

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't think that joke really applies like you want it to

I think maybe he just read the title and then just posted that without reading the posts? thinking dallas, tx is ahead of kc in things should probably go in the dallas things thread though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 10:13:11 AM
Thinking the weather is super extreme.

"Oh you don't like the weather? Just wait 5 minutes! It'll change!"

Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 10:14:21 AM
This whole thread is like "Dallas things minus 18-24 months"...

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't think that joke really applies like you want it to

I think maybe he just read the title and then just posted that without reading the posts? thinking dallas, tx is ahead of kc in things should probably go in the dallas things thread though.

Dallas is known nationally for their forward thinking and cosmopolitan lifestyle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
THAT'S GRILLING, NOT BARBECUE, DAMMIT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 10:15:16 AM
Headed to the lake this weekend
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
Being super pumped to meet a weatherman
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 10:21:13 AM
Being super pumped to meet a weatherman

recognizing weathermen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
Being super pumped to meet a weatherman

recognizing weathermen

Weathermen are celebrities
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 10:26:33 AM
Being super pumped to meet a weatherman

recognizing weathermen

Weathermen are celebrities

Being loyal to one weatherman and arguing about it like anyone else gives a crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 10:31:02 AM
"Mission Hills is old money, south leawood and Hallbrook is new money"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 12, 2013, 10:32:03 AM
*driving on Ward parkway*

"Look at these rough ridin' houses..."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2013, 10:36:34 AM
*driving on Ward parkway*

"Look at these rough ridin' houses..."
"What do you think these people do?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Super PurpleCat on June 12, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
"Hey, who wants to go to the Plaza and stand shoulder to shoulder in the street to watch them turn on the Christmas lights?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2013, 10:38:56 AM
disliking george brett and telling everyone he's an bad person because he wasn't super nice to you the time you saw him at a bar/restaraunt/store/etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2013, 10:39:52 AM
standing by george bretts side no matter what even though he is an bad person
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 10:40:40 AM
George Brett
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2013, 10:40:54 AM
standing by george bretts side no matter what even though he is an bad person

that would have to go in the omaha things thread brainiac
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2013, 10:42:16 AM
disliking george brett and telling everyone he's an bad person because he wasn't super nice to you the time you saw him at a bar/restaraunt/store/etc.
:shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 10:44:39 AM
Being told what "real cities" have that Kansas City does not. (usually from a fellow KC resident that has lived in said "real city")
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2013, 10:45:52 AM
"Did you know that KC is one of the worst dating cities in the U.S.?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 10:46:21 AM
Moving to Waldo, then to the City Market, and arguing about which is superior.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2013, 10:56:41 AM
explaining to people that union station doesnt actually have trains that go through it and then giving them a good "ha!! i know, right?!" after they look puzzled.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Super PurpleCat on June 12, 2013, 11:00:16 AM
explaining to people that union station doesnt actually have trains that go through it and then giving them a good "ha!! i know, right?!" after they look puzzled.

Related: Counting all the broken things in the Science City and lamenting on what a missed opportunity it is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2013, 11:01:11 AM
thinking KC could/would support a 3rd major sports team
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 11:01:42 AM
explaining to people that union station doesnt actually have trains that go through it and then giving them a good "ha!! i know, right?!" after they look puzzled.

ummmm
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 12, 2013, 11:03:46 AM
bitching about missing (insert universities town) and then talking about the kc life to residents of said university town when you are back in university town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Super PurpleCat on June 12, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
"It's not rough ridin' Verizon Wireless Cricket Wireless whatever Ampitheatre, it's Sandstone goddammit.  :curse:"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 12, 2013, 11:07:18 AM
explaining to people that union station doesnt actually have trains that go through it and then giving them a good "ha!! i know, right?!" after they look puzzled.

telling dumbasses that there is an active Amtrak station in union station
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 12, 2013, 11:08:47 AM

The road construction, orange cone, and detour capital of the US.

thinking that kc has a lot of construction and traffic when really it doesn't even come close to most major cities
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 11:09:42 AM

The road construction, orange cone, and detour capital of the US.

thinking that kc has a lot of construction and traffic when really it doesn't even come close to most major cities

aka "real cities"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2013, 11:15:32 AM
think ive had just about enough of michcat makin fun of my hood.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 12, 2013, 11:16:01 AM
This whole thread is like "Dallas things minus 18-24 months"...

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't think that joke really applies like you want it to

I think maybe he just read the title and then just posted that without reading the posts? thinking dallas, tx is ahead of kc in things should probably go in the dallas things thread though.

It's ok... I thought KC was a "city" too, before moving to a real one.

To the rest of the United States, KC, Indianapolis, and Albuquerque are all pretty much interchangeable as far as progressiveness and prestige go.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 11:17:29 AM
This whole thread is like "Dallas things minus 18-24 months"...

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't think that joke really applies like you want it to

I think maybe he just read the title and then just posted that without reading the posts? thinking dallas, tx is ahead of kc in things should probably go in the dallas things thread though.

It's ok... I thought KC was a "city" too, before moving to a real one.

To the rest of the United States, KC, Indianapolis, and Albuquerque are all pretty much interchangeable as far as progressiveness and prestige go.

 :cheers:


You can add Dallas to that list.

No, really.

think ive had just about enough of michcat makin fun of my hood.

I was making fun of GFA for being one of those "real cities" dweebs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 12, 2013, 11:22:01 AM
This whole thread is like "Dallas things minus 18-24 months"...

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't think that joke really applies like you want it to

I think maybe he just read the title and then just posted that without reading the posts? thinking dallas, tx is ahead of kc in things should probably go in the dallas things thread though.

It's ok... I thought KC was a "city" too, before moving to a real one.

To the rest of the United States, KC, Indianapolis, and Albuquerque are all pretty much interchangeable as far as progressiveness and prestige go.

 :cheers:


You can add Dallas to that list.

No, really.

think ive had just about enough of michcat makin fun of my hood.

I was making fun of GFA for being one of those "real cities" dweebs.


Congrats on further proving what a total rough ridin' dumbass you really are, and I mean that in the most complimentary way possible.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 11:24:03 AM
What makes Dallas known for being progressive and/or prestigious?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 12, 2013, 11:26:44 AM

The road construction, orange cone, and detour capital of the US.

thinking that kc has a lot of construction and traffic when really it doesn't even come close to most major cities

aka "real cities"

no, larger cities, dumbass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2013, 11:28:01 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2013, 11:28:14 AM
"Ya, the new house is kind of far south at 160th and ridgeview but we got SO MUCH MORE FOR OUR MONEY"

good one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 11:28:19 AM

The road construction, orange cone, and detour capital of the US.

thinking that kc has a lot of construction and traffic when really it doesn't even come close to most major cities

aka "real cities"

no, larger cities, dumbass

:thumbs: I know what you meant.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 12, 2013, 11:30:24 AM
What makes Dallas known for being progressive and/or prestigious?

 :facepalm:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2013, 11:31:48 AM
What makes Dallas known for being progressive and/or prestigious?

A few idiots who live there and pretend it is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 12, 2013, 11:32:09 AM
They've got a tv show about it and everything! WHO KILLED JR!?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 12, 2013, 11:38:39 AM
I probably have to move to DFW next year. Dallas is such an ugly city...terrible traffic, concrete desert scenery, full of awful people. Ft Worth is nicer though, don't mind it as much. Have to go to Houston tomorrow and it will suck too I'm sure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 12, 2013, 11:38:50 AM
What makes Dallas known for being progressive and/or prestigious?

A few idiots who live there and pretend it is.

This is actually pretty accurate...

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2013, 11:57:59 AM
Dallas is rough ridin' the exact same thing as LA. If you think Dallas is interchangeable with Indy Milwaukee Columbus whatever, then you are just being an insufferable douchebag again

Lots of people confused about kc stuff in this thread. Others spot on.

Grilling and barbecueing are different dammit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 12, 2013, 12:03:09 PM
Dallas is rough ridin' the exact same thing as LA. If you think Dallas is interchangeable with Indy Milwaukee Columbus whatever, then you are just being an insufferable douchebag again

Lots of people confused about kc stuff in this thread. Others spot on.

Grilling and barbecueing are different dammit

dallas is nothing like LA, you rough ridin' scumbag
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 12, 2013, 12:06:21 PM
"the northland is just like johnson county, except I got a way better deal on my house!"
:lol: :thumbs:

Bought into this hype and will be moving to Johnson County within a year.

Housing options are attractive, though.  It's too bad the Northland is awful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 12, 2013, 12:08:17 PM
-College logo rocks in front yard flower garden.

 :embarrassed:

This thread makes me feel bad about myself.
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2013, 12:09:29 PM
Dallas is rough ridin' the exact same thing as LA. If you think Dallas is interchangeable with Indy Milwaukee Columbus whatever, then you are just being an insufferable douchebag again

Lots of people confused about kc stuff in this thread. Others spot on.

Grilling and barbecueing are different dammit

dallas is nothing like LA, you rough ridin' scumbag

It really is though
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 12, 2013, 12:12:01 PM
Dallas is rough ridin' the exact same thing as LA. If you think Dallas is interchangeable with Indy Milwaukee Columbus whatever, then you are just being an insufferable douchebag again

Lots of people confused about kc stuff in this thread. Others spot on.

Grilling and barbecueing are different dammit

dallas is nothing like LA, you rough ridin' scumbag

It really is though

I'm sorry, but no, they're not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 12, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
"McCormick and Schmicks has really good seafood."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 12, 2013, 12:15:06 PM
"Have you been to Fogo de Chao? WOW"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 12, 2013, 12:15:28 PM
Dallas is rough ridin' the exact same thing as LA. If you think Dallas is interchangeable with Indy Milwaukee Columbus whatever, then you are just being an insufferable douchebag again

Lots of people confused about kc stuff in this thread. Others spot on.

Grilling and barbecueing are different dammit

dallas is nothing like LA, you rough ridin' scumbag

Dallas is LA minus the TV/movie industry and a neighboring ocean.  Otherwise, spot on.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 12, 2013, 12:18:00 PM
not being as good at listing "kansas city things" as people who live omaha, san francisco and mhk.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 12, 2013, 12:21:20 PM
Dallas is rough ridin' the exact same thing as LA. If you think Dallas is interchangeable with Indy Milwaukee Columbus whatever, then you are just being an insufferable douchebag again

Lots of people confused about kc stuff in this thread. Others spot on.

Grilling and barbecueing are different dammit

dallas is nothing like LA, you rough ridin' scumbag

Dallas is LA minus the TV/movie industry and a neighboring ocean.  Otherwise, spot on.



fair enough, let me be the first to comparo Anchorage to Dallas to LA.  all basically the same with a few minor exceptions.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 12, 2013, 12:21:31 PM
not being as good at listing "kansas city things" as people who live omaha, san francisco and mhk.

We're tone deaf to it, rd.

Like someone who hears their voice on a recording and then says, "Hey, that's what I sound like?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2013, 12:22:42 PM
Holly Starr
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2013, 12:24:19 PM
not being as good at listing "kansas city things" as people who live omaha, san francisco and mhk.

boy, i'm glad someone said it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
dallas things:  thinking dallas isn't just a larger kansas city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2013, 12:59:59 PM
Dallas is nothing like kc.

Clams what's the closest comparo to Dallas?
Closest comparo to LA?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate16 on June 12, 2013, 01:07:08 PM
"Why haven't they done a real world here yet?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 01:25:29 PM
"I'll have a Boulevard Wheat, with Lemon please"

to your bro: "Boulevard Wheat is a really good beer, and they brew it in Kansas City"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 01:26:47 PM
I lived in Kansas City, MO for four years.

Also, Phoenix is the closest comparison to Dallas. LA has no peers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2013, 01:34:22 PM
I lived in Kansas City, MO for four years.

Also, Phoenix is the closest comparison to Dallas. LA has no peers.

tell us more about phoenix  :pray:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 01:44:15 PM
I lived in Kansas City, MO for four years.

Also, Phoenix is the closest comparison to Dallas. LA has no peers.

tell us more about phoenix  :pray:

ha ha, I try to block my memories of that shithole from my mind as much as possible. I will say that the biggest difference between Phoenix and Dallas is that some people actually vacation in Phoenix, whereas no one in their right mind would take a vacation to Dallas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2013, 01:54:29 PM
I lived in Kansas City, MO for four years.

Also, Phoenix is the closest comparison to Dallas. LA has no peers.

tell us more about phoenix  :pray:

ha ha, I try to block my memories of that shithole from my mind as much as possible. I will say that the biggest difference between Phoenix and Dallas is that some people actually vacation in Phoenix, whereas no one in their right mind would take a vacation to Dallas.

i enjoy when you go off about phoenix.  i lived there for ten years, but as a kid trapping lizards and doing other kid stuff.  haven't spent much time in dallas but it seems awful too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2013, 01:56:48 PM
Holly Starr

Not Starr anymore, bruh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 12, 2013, 02:05:32 PM
Holly Starr

my buddy lives in her old house  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2013, 02:07:16 PM
Holly Starr

my buddy lives in her old house  :surprised:

my buddy did smash
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2013, 02:07:50 PM
Holly Starr

Not Starr anymore, bruh.
  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2013, 02:09:57 PM
Holly Starr

Not Starr anymore, bruh.
  :frown:

meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 12, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
Holly Starr

my buddy lives in her old house  :surprised:

my buddy did smash

my buddy bought her house for significantly less than what she wanted  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2013, 02:11:09 PM
Holly Starr

Not Starr anymore, bruh.
  :frown:

meh
Good point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2013, 02:15:03 PM
I have no idea who this is so I think we've definitely pinpointed a kansas city thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2013, 02:20:26 PM
I have no idea who this is so I think we've definitely pinpointed a kansas city thing

george bretts sister. cool gal (transitive property)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SabiNation on June 12, 2013, 02:22:39 PM
Taking wedding/engagement/prom/homecoming/senior/christmas pictures at that one rose garden
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
Taking wedding/engagement/prom/homecoming/senior/christmas pictures at that one rose garden

also at that fountain
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 12, 2013, 02:35:03 PM
Taking wedding/engagement/prom/homecoming/senior/christmas pictures at that one rose garden

also at that fountain

also at that old ass castle looking stone building
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 12, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
kauffman center is the new engagement pic hotspot.  personally mine were in shawnee mission park.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 12, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
I lived in Kansas City, MO for four years.

Also, Phoenix is the closest comparison to Dallas. LA has no peers.

tell us more about phoenix  :pray:

ha ha, I try to block my memories of that shithole from my mind as much as possible. I will say that the biggest difference between Phoenix and Dallas is that some people actually vacation in Phoenix, whereas no one in their right mind would take a vacation to Dallas.

Except for 50,000 K-State alums each and every time the Wild Wild Cats qualify for the Cotton Bowl and 100's of thousands of Okie and Texas rednecks each year that think Six Flags & Hurricane Harbor is the end all/be all of family vacations.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on June 12, 2013, 02:50:39 PM
Sprint
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2013, 02:56:40 PM
dallas things:  bragging that oklahoma people go to dallas for vacation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 03:03:25 PM
I lived in Kansas City, MO for four years.

Also, Phoenix is the closest comparison to Dallas. LA has no peers.

tell us more about phoenix  :pray:

ha ha, I try to block my memories of that shithole from my mind as much as possible. I will say that the biggest difference between Phoenix and Dallas is that some people actually vacation in Phoenix, whereas no one in their right mind would take a vacation to Dallas.

Except for 50,000 K-State alums each and every time the Wild Wild Cats qualify for the Cotton Bowl and 100's of thousands of Okie and Texas rednecks each year that think Six Flags & Hurricane Harbor is the end all/be all of family vacations.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 12, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
dallas things:  bragging that oklahoma people go to dallas for vacation.

Honest question...
Do Dallas people "brag" about that??   :sdeek:   

Because I've never heard anybody brag about it.  Everybody I know hates them.



Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on June 12, 2013, 03:51:56 PM
Taking wedding/engagement/prom/homecoming/senior/christmas pictures at that one rose garden

also at that fountain

also at that old ass castle looking stone building
Also all over the plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 12, 2013, 04:24:43 PM
Shawnee Mission Kia Jen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 12, 2013, 04:29:13 PM
(https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/456605970/Ray2.JPG)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Taking wedding/engagement/prom/homecoming/senior/christmas pictures at that one rose garden

CF3 got engaged there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on June 12, 2013, 04:38:45 PM
Pouring bbq sauce on a player after your pud baseball team wins a game
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
Pouring bbq sauce on a player after your pud baseball team wins a game

IT WAS A FREAKING HUGE WIN DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2013, 04:41:43 PM
Loving the royals unconditionally
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 12, 2013, 04:42:51 PM
Loving the royals unconditionally

Well yeah it wouldn't be very Dallas or Nashville to love the KC Royals unconditionally.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
much like LA,

Dallas (not fort worth) is overrun with:

"30k millionaires"
500 foot tall overpasses
endless 12 lane freeways
endless chains and strip malls all built in the last 25 years
rough ridin' incredibly hot males and females
"i'll be right there in an hour and a half"
nobody smoking cigarettes like, anywhere
valet parking only


that's what I mean. just the vibe of all that stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Scary Smart on June 12, 2013, 11:47:17 PM
Shawnee Mission Kia Jen

she's the worst
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on June 13, 2013, 06:35:00 AM
Watson's girl

Johnny dare
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on June 13, 2013, 07:52:02 AM
Sunflower Dodge,

"OOOOOOOOOOOOlathe!!!!!     !"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2013, 07:55:21 AM
listing hundreds of local advertisements and advertisement related celebrities in a list of things about your city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 08:12:54 AM
"DYK? Boulevard is the #12 largest brewery in the USA."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
while you can't compare anywhere else in the good ol USA to LA, i would say that dallas is probably the closest. like dallas and phoenix is a fine comparo but if you had to compare either to LA, you'd go with dallas. and yeah, the valet parking scene in dallas is just stupid. pretty sure chikfilet valet parks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2013, 08:49:30 AM
much like LA,

Dallas (not fort worth) is overrun with:

"30k millionaires"
500 foot tall overpasses
endless 12 lane freeways
endless chains and strip malls all built in the last 25 years
rough ridin' incredibly hot males and females
"i'll be right there in an hour and a half"
nobody smoking cigarettes like, anywhere
valet parking only


that's what I mean. just the vibe of all that stuff.

that's a pretty good list
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 09:02:57 AM
much like LA,

Dallas (not fort worth) is overrun with:

"30k millionaires"
500 foot tall overpasses
endless 12 lane freeways
endless chains and strip malls all built in the last 25 years
rough ridin' incredibly hot males and females
"i'll be right there in an hour and a half"
nobody smoking cigarettes like, anywhere
valet parking only


that's what I mean. just the vibe of all that stuff.

that's a pretty good list

yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2013, 12:58:04 PM
My male genitals
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 01:12:34 PM
much like LA,

Dallas (not fort worth) is overrun with:

"30k millionaires"
500 foot tall overpasses
endless 12 lane freeways
endless chains and strip malls all built in the last 25 years
rough ridin' incredibly hot males and females
"i'll be right there in an hour and a half"
nobody smoking cigarettes like, anywhere
valet parking only


that's what I mean. just the vibe of all that stuff.

that's a pretty good list

yes

every big city in the world
30k millionaires"
500 foot tall overpasses
endless 12 lane freeways
endless chains and strip malls all built in the last 25 years
rough ridin' incredibly hot males and females
"i'll be right there in an hour and a half"
nobody smoking cigarettes like, anywhere
valet parking only


cool, alright guys yup.  dallas = the world.  we're good to go! 
what city should we do next?  chicago?  NY?  definitely no good looking people in those cities and for sure no 30k millionaires. valet parking? never heard of it.  just park on the lawn. 

i guess we're all right here folks.  everyone wins, high fives!

:flush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 01:15:53 PM
so every city in the world is overrun with every single item on that list?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on June 13, 2013, 01:17:40 PM
much like LA,

Dallas (not fort worth) is overrun with:

"30k millionaires"
500 foot tall overpasses
endless 12 lane freeways
endless chains and strip malls all built in the last 25 years
rough ridin' incredibly hot males and females
"i'll be right there in an hour and a half"
nobody smoking cigarettes like, anywhere
valet parking only


that's what I mean. just the vibe of all that stuff.

that's a pretty good list

yes

every big city in the world
30k millionaires"
500 foot tall overpasses
endless 12 lane freeways
endless chains and strip malls all built in the last 25 years
rough ridin' incredibly hot males and females
"i'll be right there in an hour and a half"
nobody smoking cigarettes like, anywhere
valet parking only


cool, alright guys yup.  dallas = the world.  we're good to go! 
what city should we do next?  chicago? NY?  definitely no good looking people in those cities and for sure no 30k millionaires. valet parking? never heard of it.  just park on the lawn. 

i guess we're all right here folks.  everyone wins, high fives!

:flush:

REALLY?   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 01:29:39 PM
i've spent 12 nights in downtown chicago over the past three years and around 30 in dallas over the past eight. those two cities are nothing alike. swing and a miss.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on June 13, 2013, 01:32:08 PM
I've never lived in Dallas or LA but I've traveled to both cities extensively for business and I can't think of two cities that are more different.

Dallas seemed like a bunch of midwesterners with their midwestern values who love fine dining at an endless array of chain restaurants while driving their trucks on highways that aren't backed up for miles on end.

LA seemed like a melting pot of a city with vastly superior dining choices that can take you 15 minutes to reach per each mile on the highway.  The very same highways where people drive their leased luxury cars that most of them can't afford because in LA appearances matter a hell of a lot more than they do in Dallas. 







Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 01:33:48 PM
I've never lived in Dallas or LA but I've traveled to both cities extensively for business and I can't think of two cities that are more different.

Dallas seemed like a bunch of midwesterners with their midwestern values who love fine dining at an endless array of chain restaurants while driving their trucks on highways that aren't backed up for miles on end.

LA seemed like a melting pot of a city with vastly superior dining choices that can take you 15 minutes to reach per each mile on the highway.  The very same highways where people drive their leased luxury cars that most of them can't afford because in LA appearances matter a hell of a lot more than they do in Dallas.

it doesn't sound like you've spent a lot of time in downtown dallas or some of the areas just north of downtown dallas and hey, that's ok.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 01:34:55 PM
ok folks welp, rick daris citymaster esquire has ruled on this one.  next up, judge judy for the appeal. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 01:36:20 PM
ok folks welp, rick daris citymaster esquire has ruled on this one.  next up, judge judy for the appeal.

i'm just giving you information. what you do with it is up to you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 01:38:36 PM
and that's great because you have all the data and that's  because you're rick daris citymaster esq. 
without you, there would be no city information.  like i said, hopefully judge judy takes the appeal and we can go from there. 

not sure.  i need to find an appealmaster.  he/she will give me that data.  ftb.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2013, 01:42:11 PM
 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
in LA appearances matter a hell of a lot more than they do in Dallas.

this is as far from the truth as possible, and in fact the reason i compared the two in the first place. like daris said, you must never have been to uptown or downtown or north dallas, or really any part of dallas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2013, 01:46:13 PM
in LA appearances matter a hell of a lot more than they do in Dallas.

this is as far from the truth as possible, and in fact the reason i compared the two in the first place. like daris said, you must never have been to uptown or downtown or north dallas, or really any part of dallas.

I've been to Medieval Times in Dallas and I didn't get that feeling.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on June 13, 2013, 01:47:18 PM
I've never lived in Dallas or LA but I've traveled to both cities extensively for business and I can't think of two cities that are more different.

Dallas seemed like a bunch of midwesterners with their midwestern values who love fine dining at an endless array of chain restaurants while driving their trucks on highways that aren't backed up for miles on end.

LA seemed like a melting pot of a city with vastly superior dining choices that can take you 15 minutes to reach per each mile on the highway.  The very same highways where people drive their leased luxury cars that most of them can't afford because in LA appearances matter a hell of a lot more than they do in Dallas.

it doesn't sound like you've spent a lot of time in downtown dallas or some of the areas just north of downtown dallas and hey, that's ok.

Admittedly I've spent more time in downtown LA than in Dallas where more of my business is in the burbs.  I'm always open to new things so can you recommend a nice place/area to stay in downtown Dallas?  I've got a trip scheduled there late summer to visit a rep down there. 

I'll report my findings upon return.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 01:48:58 PM
i'd recommendo you ask stevedave travelmaster esquire
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 01:49:12 PM
i've spent 12 nights in downtown chicago over the past three years and around 30 in dallas over the past eight. those two cities are nothing alike. swing and a miss.

we have 2 types of non-believers here:

1. clams, who loves LA a lot (deservedly so) and doesn't want to see its name tarnished by comparing it to Dallas (or anywhere really), but is blind to some pretty major and obvious similarities
2. retards who think we are talking about either A) cowboy hat belt buckle spurs and boots-wearing monster truck driving herp derps from fort worth or B) tucked in jorts wearing small town midwesterners who visit Arlington. either way the image-conscious Dallas that i'm talking about is a foreign concept to these folks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 13, 2013, 01:50:02 PM
Does anyone know what Toby Tobin actually does, or is he just a pitch man for everything?

How can I get that gig?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 01:51:41 PM
Does anyone know what Toby Tobin actually does, or is he just a pitch man for everything?

How can I get that gig?

i think he hosts (or hosted) a landscaping type radio show on saturday mornings  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
Dallas has a lot more poors than a lot of cities. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 13, 2013, 01:54:29 PM
Dallas has a lot more poors than a lot of cities.

texas in general has a lot of poors
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2013, 01:56:07 PM
2. retards who think we are talking about either A) cowboy hat belt buckle spurs and boots-wearing monster truck driving herp derps from fort worth

this is how non-flyover country views Dallas. This is actually what distinguishes it from Phoenix or Memphis or Tampa more than anything. Yee haw!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 02:10:26 PM
2. retards who think we are talking about either A) cowboy hat belt buckle spurs and boots-wearing monster truck driving herp derps from fort worth

this is how non-flyover country views Dallas. This is actually what distinguishes it from Phoenix or Memphis or Tampa more than anything. Yee haw!

was in oakland yesterday, or was it olathe.  anyway, had a great time. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
2. retards who think we are talking about either A) cowboy hat belt buckle spurs and boots-wearing monster truck driving herp derps from fort worth

this is how non-flyover country views Dallas. This is actually what distinguishes it from Phoenix or Memphis or Tampa more than anything. Yee haw!

was in oakland yesterday, or was it olathe.  anyway, had a great time. 

Lovely! :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 02:13:03 PM
bay bridge, 119th street bridge over I-35
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on June 13, 2013, 02:13:42 PM
i've spent 12 nights in downtown chicago over the past three years and around 30 in dallas over the past eight. those two cities are nothing alike. swing and a miss.

we have 2 types of non-believers here:

2. retards who think we are talking about either A) cowboy hat belt buckle spurs and boots-wearing monster truck driving herp derps from fort worth or B) tucked in jorts wearing small town midwesterners who visit Arlington. either way the image-conscious Dallas that i'm talking about is a foreign concept to these folks

 :thumbs:

Okay so now we're just talking about the image-conscious area of Dallas.  Every major city has an image-conscious area. The city of Dallas encompasses more than just a portion of the downtown area.  Maybe you should have said "hey there's a few square miles in Dallas that are like 100 square miles in LA."  In the 40-50 nights I've spent in each city, the people and the culture I observed were nothing alike. 

Maybe you haven't spent enough time in LA.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 13, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
Dallas has a lot more poors than a lot of cities.

texas in general has a lot of poors

The south in general has a lot of poors

Median income
(http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2013/06/07/income.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: jtksu on June 13, 2013, 02:15:38 PM
Shawnee Mission Kia Jen

she's the worst

I'd hit it.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 02:16:21 PM
at first i thought "wow this is so weird that only mocat and i can see and understand the obvious comparos here" and then within about three seconds my brain came to the final conclusion that "no it really isn't weird because you and mocat are total studs and smarter than 99% of the people here."

then a calmness came over me and i ate a banana that had i put in my desk drawer earlier this morning for an afternoon work snack.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2013, 02:19:57 PM
at first i thought "wow this is so weird that only mocat and i can see and understand the obvious comparos here" and then within about three seconds my brain came to the final conclusion that "no it really isn't weird because you and mocat are total studs and smarter than 99% of the people here."

then a calmness came over me and i ate a banana that had i put in my desk drawer earlier this morning for an afternoon work snack.

Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. Nor would my elite peers on the coasts. 'grats, I guess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 02:21:16 PM
at first i thought "wow this is so weird that only mocat and i can see and understand the obvious comparos here" and then within about three seconds my brain came to the final conclusion that "no it really isn't weird because you and mocat are total studs and smarter than 99% of the people here."

then a calmness came over me and i ate a banana that had i put in my desk drawer earlier this morning for an afternoon work snack.

i just ate a banana too trivia bro!  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2013, 02:22:45 PM
For what it's worth, the dallas/phoenix comparo was spot on MC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 02:23:12 PM
i've spent 12 nights in downtown chicago over the past three years and around 30 in dallas over the past eight. those two cities are nothing alike. swing and a miss.

we have 2 types of non-believers here:

2. retards who think we are talking about either A) cowboy hat belt buckle spurs and boots-wearing monster truck driving herp derps from fort worth or B) tucked in jorts wearing small town midwesterners who visit Arlington. either way the image-conscious Dallas that i'm talking about is a foreign concept to these folks

 :thumbs:

Okay so now we're just talking about the image-conscious area of Dallas.  Every major city has an image-conscious area. The city of Dallas encompasses more than just a portion of the downtown area.  Maybe you should have said "hey there's a few square miles in Dallas that are like 100 square miles in LA."  In the 40-50 nights I've spent in each city, the people and the culture I observed were nothing alike. 

Maybe you haven't spent enough time in LA.

dude, just, gah  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on June 13, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
"DYK? Boulevard is the #12 largest brewery in the USA."


:facepalm:

No they're not.  They're the 12th largest craft brewery in the USA.  They're the 19th largest brewery in the USA.

http://www.beerinfo.com/index.php/pages/top50breweries.html (http://www.beerinfo.com/index.php/pages/top50breweries.html)

http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-releases-top-50-breweries-of-2012 (http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/media/press-releases/show?title=brewers-association-releases-top-50-breweries-of-2012)


Keep posting, you'll get something right in this thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 13, 2013, 02:39:31 PM
he put it in quotes, dick
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 13, 2013, 02:42:02 PM
at first i thought "wow this is so weird that only mocat and i can see and understand the obvious comparos here" and then within about three seconds my brain came to the final conclusion that "no it really isn't weird because you and mocat are total studs and smarter than 99% of the people here."

then a calmness came over me and i ate a banana that had i put in my desk drawer earlier this morning for an afternoon work snack.

it's a very obvious comparison.  dallas is right up with there with LA as far as being image conscious.  one of the main reasons why ft worth is much more tolerable.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on June 13, 2013, 02:42:30 PM
he put it in quotes, dick

And the quote was wrong. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2013, 02:43:59 PM
Good god, this thread. Woof!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 02:46:11 PM
the 500 foot overpasses sealed the deal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 02:46:32 PM
Good god, this thread. Woof!

definitely a kansas city thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 03:10:58 PM
he put it in quotes, dick

And the quote was wrong.

i feel like i'm taking crazy pills here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 03:11:42 PM
the 500 foot overpasses sealed the deal

well as you pointed out, anchorage chicago and nyc also have these, so maybe i should not have brought them up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on June 13, 2013, 03:31:00 PM
he put it in quotes, dick

And the quote was wrong.

i feel like i'm taking crazy pills here


(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p786/lopakman/crazypills_zpsbe584e3d.gif)

It's all good.  I just had a different experience in Dallas is all.


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2013, 03:44:47 PM
Someone actually compared Dallas Texas to Los Angeles.  Let that sink in
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
Someone actually compared Dallas Texas to Los Angeles.  Let that sink in

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
Someone actually compared Dallas Texas to Los Angeles.  Let that sink in

name a closer comparo west of the mississippi? you can't.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on June 13, 2013, 04:02:12 PM
Harley Davidsons
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2013, 04:03:26 PM
Someone actually compared Dallas Texas to Los Angeles.  Let that sink in

name a closer comparo west of the mississippi? you can't.

San Diego
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2013, 04:04:00 PM
Someone actually compared Dallas Texas to Los Angeles.  Let that sink in

name a closer comparo west of the mississippi? you can't.

to Dallas?  Houston
San Antonio
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
Someone actually compared Dallas Texas to Los Angeles.  Let that sink in

name a closer comparo west of the mississippi? you can't.

San Diego

to LA. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 04:06:55 PM
Someone actually compared Dallas Texas to Los Angeles.  Let that sink in

name a closer comparo west of the mississippi? you can't.

San Diego

omg lol  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 13, 2013, 04:09:06 PM
Dallas has a lot more poors than a lot of cities.

texas in general has a lot of poors

The south in general has a lot of poors

Median income
(http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2013/06/07/income.png)

Interesting.  Pretty easy to spot the DFW metroplex on that map.

 :kstategrad:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2013, 04:11:55 PM
pretty easy to spot every metro over 500,000  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2013, 04:12:41 PM
Dallas has a lot more poors than a lot of cities.

texas in general has a lot of poors

The south in general has a lot of poors

Median income
(http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2013/06/07/income.png)

Interesting.  Pretty easy to spot the DFW metroplex on that map.

 :kstategrad:

And the KC metroplex.  THEY ARE JUST ALIKE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2013, 04:14:32 PM
And the KC metroplex.  THEY ARE JUST ALIKE

maybe more like minneapolis?  i dunno
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 04:16:46 PM
hey everybody steve dave and rick daris already agreed with me so i think i can speak for the former and say "shut up"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 04:18:54 PM
hey everybody steve dave and rick daris already agreed with me so i think i can speak for the former and say "shut up"

yeah. mocat has earned the right to tell everyone to "shut up". now there are just three of us that can say that and the group is officially closed until voting time next year. congrats mocat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
also see you at fattyfest which is located in MHK, which i think is one of those blue places on the map  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2013, 04:21:27 PM
And the KC metroplex.  THEY ARE JUST ALIKE

maybe more like minneapolis?  i dunno

Or St. Louis
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2013, 04:22:17 PM
also see you at fattyfest which is located in MHK, which i think is one of those blue places on the map  :D

MHK is just a ton like South Beach.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: deputy dawg on June 13, 2013, 04:27:15 PM
Having a choice of several choice disc golf courses to play.  Staying away from Cliff Drive course after dark.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on June 13, 2013, 04:29:44 PM
Dallas has a lot more poors than a lot of cities.

texas in general has a lot of poors

The south in general has a lot of poors

Median income
(http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2013/06/07/income.png)

Interesting.  Pretty easy to spot the DFW metroplex on that map.

 :kstategrad:

And the KC metroplex.  THEY ARE JUST ALIKE

EXACTLY!!!  Well, except for those other 4.2 million people

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 04:29:49 PM
anyone here want to start a city data revolution, pussy riot style?  post your intentions in this thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2013, 04:34:41 PM
hey everybody steve dave and rick daris already agreed with me so i think i can speak for the former and say "shut up"

yeah. mocat has earned the right to tell everyone to "shut up". now there are just three of us that can say that and the group is officially closed until voting time next year. congrats mocat.

the science is settled
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2013, 04:37:21 PM
Mocat,

Tell these guys to shut up and let's be done with this already.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 04:38:03 PM
eat crap mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 04:41:14 PM
what does that even mean?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 13, 2013, 04:42:54 PM
why don't all of you shut up.. dallas compared to la.. la compared to san diego.. just shut up
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2013, 04:51:14 PM
why don't all of you shut up.. dallas compared to la.. la compared to san diego.. just shut up
step the eff off
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 13, 2013, 04:53:18 PM
remind me to put daris on my shoulders at fattyfest so he can punch you in the nose
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on June 13, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
remind me to put daris on my shoulders at fattyfest so he can punch you in the nose
Oh man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 13, 2013, 04:56:47 PM
A place where all people believe they reside in a lofty, paramount state.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 13, 2013, 06:11:26 PM
I agree that Dallas is a very close comparison to LA /thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 13, 2013, 06:12:05 PM
hey everybody steve dave and rick daris already agreed with me so i think i can speak for the former and say "shut up"

yeah. mocat has earned the right to tell everyone to "shut up". now there are just three of us that can say that and the group is officially closed until voting time next year. congrats mocat.

hey jerk I agreed with you guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 13, 2013, 08:53:48 PM
Billy's hit it a ton BBQ sauce!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on June 13, 2013, 09:39:13 PM
Hudler
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2013, 10:01:03 PM
hey everybody steve dave and rick daris already agreed with me so i think i can speak for the former and say "shut up"

yeah. mocat has earned the right to tell everyone to "shut up". now there are just three of us that can say that and the group is officially closed until voting time next year. congrats mocat.

hey jerk I agreed with you guys

:thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on June 13, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
being polite to strangers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2013, 11:28:51 PM
Hudler
Ban him! :chainsaw:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 14, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Watching/Laughing at the WT Missourians cruising around your neighborhood with their 1993 Silverado's the day before your big trash pickup.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 18, 2013, 10:42:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZCddp4blY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZCddp4blY)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 18, 2013, 10:49:31 PM
I've had a drink at Gilhoulys. (OMG!)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on July 18, 2013, 10:54:53 PM
that's great blast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 18, 2013, 11:10:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZCddp4blY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZCddp4blY)

I can't decide on this thing.  "real" KC is pretty lol'ers though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 19, 2013, 12:26:42 AM
I LIKED IT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 07:37:47 AM
THEY USED THE PLAZA JACK STACK for fucks sakes. I liked it though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 19, 2013, 08:09:09 AM
it was funny.  good lord people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 19, 2013, 08:51:35 AM
i like how he made fun of the royals and chiefs.  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: OK_Cat on July 19, 2013, 09:01:08 AM
that was really funny
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 09:07:16 AM
I've had a drink at Gilhoulys. (OMG!)

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2013, 09:26:01 AM
i liked it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2013, 09:36:55 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2013, 09:58:41 AM
Oh look a hipster-ish loser trying to talk crap on the Chiefs/Royals because he's on the super cool KC Wiz bandwagon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 09:59:09 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2013, 10:00:51 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

Of course. Its the perfect representation of people who grew up in Leawood and live in midtown and act like they've always been city cool guys.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 10:08:02 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

Of course. Its the perfect representation of people who grew up in Leawood and live in midtown and act like they've always been city cool guys.

it is odd that they can't shake their inherent fear of Troost. you know what troost is? it's a rough ridin' street you R-tards
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 19, 2013, 10:08:48 AM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.. Great video ugly city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 10:10:52 AM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.

compared to what?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 19, 2013, 10:12:37 AM
I think KC is relatively scenic, as Midwestern cities go
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 19, 2013, 10:14:02 AM
KC is the tits. People who hate the city are just a bunch of hayseeds or wannabe hipsters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 10:16:35 AM
I wish I had grown up in a comparable Midwestern city and then moved here so I could be unbiased, but most people that I know who have done that really like KC compared to their Midwestern city of comparable size.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 19, 2013, 10:18:18 AM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.

compared to what?
the buildings, skyscrapers, the city.. its all very thrown together
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on July 19, 2013, 10:18:52 AM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.

compared to what?

KC has the best downtown skyline from about 2 miles west of the Mississippi to about 20 miles east of the Pacific, excepting Vegas if you like the glitz. It's set on top of a freaking hill and you can see downtown from miles away in every directions. The approaches from the west, north, and south are awesome, and east isn't terrible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on July 19, 2013, 10:20:49 AM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.

compared to what?
the buildings, skyscrapers, the city.. its all very thrown together

You just described every major city in the United States, with the exception of Washington, DC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 19, 2013, 10:21:40 AM
ok.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 19, 2013, 10:22:07 AM
I wish I had grown up in a comparable Midwestern city and then moved here so I could be unbiased, but most people that I know who have done that really like KC compared to their Midwestern city of comparable size.

This.  Mrs. WNK did TFA in KC and 80% of the other TFA members were from all around the U.S.  Most had a horrible perception about KC when they first landed (cause our airport is surrounded by cows and stuff).  Perception changed after the first month or so and many still live in the area 5 years later.  KC really does have a lot to offer and you are probably a lazy POS if you think this town is boring.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on July 19, 2013, 10:25:24 AM
Most had a horrible perception about KC when they first landed (cause our airport is surrounded by cows and stuff).  Perception changed after the first month or so and many still live in the area 5 years later.

I would love to fly into the downtown airport sometime. Hearing old timers describe the approach from the south by the bluffs sounds pretty cool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: OK_Cat on July 19, 2013, 10:28:06 AM
i like okc better than kc.  lived both places.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 19, 2013, 10:30:19 AM
Also I'm really excited about the move to clean up/renovate West Bottoms.  Still wish Kauffman Stadium relocated there.   :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 19, 2013, 10:32:51 AM
thats the other things.. hey lets put our sport teams in the middle of rough ridin' no where!  :lol:
but if it was downtown derp we would lose some of the derp tailgatederping experience..
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 19, 2013, 10:35:10 AM
thats the other things.. hey lets put our sport teams in the middle of rough ridin' no where!  :lol:
but if it was downtown derp we would lose some of the derp tailgatederping experience..

Baseball should never be in the middle of nowheresville and always near downtown or a coast line.  Football needs its space though. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 19, 2013, 10:36:55 AM
thats the other things.. hey lets put our sport teams in the middle of rough ridin' no where!  :lol:
but if it was downtown derp we would lose some of the derp tailgatederping experience..

take off your shirt and fight me, townie.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on July 19, 2013, 10:37:48 AM
Also I'm really excited about the move to clean up/renovate West Bottoms.  Still wish Kauffman Stadium relocated there.   :frown:

West Bottoms could be a really cool area. Did you know there was once a tunnel into the bluffs from the West Bottoms for the trolley to get to/from downtown? 

(http://www.kchistory.org/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/Montgomery&CISOPTR=7809&DMSCALE=100.00000&DMWIDTH=750&DMHEIGHT=618.181818182&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%228th%20Street%20Tunnel%22&REC=7&DMTHUMB=0&DMROTATE=0)

You can see it about a third of the way from the left side of this photo:

(http://www.kchistory.org/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/Askren&CISOPTR=318&DMSCALE=50.00000&DMWIDTH=750&DMHEIGHT=609.5&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%228th%20Street%20Tunnel%22&REC=13&DMTHUMB=0&DMROTATE=0)

thats the other things.. hey lets put our sport teams in the middle of no where!  :lol:
but if it was downtown derp we would lose some of the derp tailgatederping experience..

Okay for the Chiefs, but so dumb that the Royals didn't move downtown.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2013, 10:43:54 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

it was a joke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: OK_Cat on July 19, 2013, 10:46:11 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

it was a joke

p-clams, forgive him.  the only joke that cartierfor3 finds funny is cancer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 19, 2013, 10:50:00 AM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.. Great video ugly city

KC has it's ugly spots, but has some really great looking areas that edge it closer to beautiful than ugly. St. Louis, OKC, and Chicago are disgusting. Minneapolis, Dallas, and Indy are boring and plain jane. And let's just say Denver is lucky they have the mountains to save them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2013, 10:52:36 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

it was a joke

Yes. A bad, racist joke, that's why I hur hur hur'd and  :opcat:'d it.


Go cats tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2013, 10:58:56 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

it was a joke

Yes. A bad, racist joke, that's why I hur hur hur'd and  :opcat:'d it.


Go cats tho

you're the person inferring the race issue.  areas of troost are certainly considered high crime, and they certainly carry the stigma.  that's his joke.  why does it need to go further than that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2013, 11:02:56 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

it was a joke

Yes. A bad, racist joke, that's why I hur hur hur'd and  :opcat:'d it.


Go cats tho

you're the person inferring the race issue.  areas of troost are certainly considered high crime, and they certainly carry the stigma.  that's his joke.  why does it need to go further than that?

Come on dude.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

it was a joke

Yes. A bad, racist joke, that's why I hur hur hur'd and  :opcat:'d it.


Go cats tho

you're the person inferring the race issue.  areas of troost are certainly considered high crime, and they certainly carry the stigma.  that's his joke.  why does it need to go further than that?

never known clams to pass up a chance to call out a herp derp and possibly racist type joke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 19, 2013, 11:15:35 AM
There is plenty of white trash committing crimes in the troost area. White trash is probably the biggest problem in Kansas City.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 19, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
I took it as making fun of whites afraid of black people along Troost.

Hot button issue!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2013, 11:51:53 AM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

it was a joke

Yes. A bad, racist joke, that's why I hur hur hur'd and  :opcat:'d it.


Go cats tho

you're the person inferring the race issue.  areas of troost are certainly considered high crime, and they certainly carry the stigma.  that's his joke.  why does it need to go further than that?

never known clams to pass up a chance to call out a herp derp and possibly racist type joke

look here's the deal, you guys can have a pass for being complete racists - i really don't care.  race it up you forking racisms.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2013, 11:52:36 AM
I took it as making fun of whites afraid of black people along Troost.

Hot button issue!

that's exactly what it was, but some people here can't escape the shadow on their own blatant racism.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: OK_Cat on July 19, 2013, 11:52:46 AM
man....combofanning season really is taking forever this year
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2013, 11:54:32 AM
man....combofanning season really is taking forever this year

racist
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on July 19, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
Just read through this thread for the first time.  Dallas is just like LA?  What?

I dated a wonderful gal who was a fundraiser for KU and she covered both LA and Dallas (and most other major cities).  She had a different outfit for each.  In Dallas she wore a skirt.  In LA she wore jeans.  She could find her vegetarian food easily in LA, but not in Dallas.

Dallas is vaguely sexist Southern manners and teased blonde hair on girls; LA is self-important, egocentric behavior and flat blonde hair on girls.  LA has an ocean, surfing and the entertainment industry.  Dallas has football fans, BBQ and oil.

Both have lots of fake boobs, lots of highways, and no bookstores.  But I don't think the similarities outweigh the differences...
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 12:25:24 PM
Just read through this thread for the first time.  Dallas is just like LA?  What?

I dated a wonderful gal who was a fundraiser for KU and she covered both LA and Dallas (and most other major cities).  She had a different outfit for each.  In Dallas she wore a skirt.  In LA she wore jeans.  She could find her vegetarian food easily in LA, but not in Dallas.

Dallas is vaguely sexist Southern manners and teased blonde hair on girls; LA is self-important, egocentric behavior and flat blonde hair on girls.  LA has an ocean, surfing and the entertainment industry.  Dallas has football fans, BBQ and oil.

Both have lots of fake boobs, lots of highways, and no bookstores.  But I don't think the similarities outweigh the differences...

I agree, but the similarities outweigh Dallas' similarities to, say, KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
I took it as making fun of whites afraid of black people along Troost.

Hot button issue!

Yup.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 19, 2013, 12:30:12 PM
I took it as making fun of whites afraid of black people along Troost.

this is the next step people often don't take with comedy. when it's done right, it's really making fun of the person that would actually say that kind of thing in real life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2013, 12:33:17 PM
I took it as making fun of whites afraid of black people along Troost.

this is the next step people often don't take with comedy. when it's done right, it's really making fun of the person that would actually say that kind of thing in real life.

Like all in the family  :D
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on July 19, 2013, 12:38:28 PM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

yeah that was one unfortunate (and really shawnee mission east-y) part of the vid

it was a joke

Yes. A bad, racist joke, that's why I hur hur hur'd and  :opcat:'d it.


Go cats tho

you're the person inferring the race issue.  areas of troost are certainly considered high crime, and they certainly carry the stigma.  that's his joke.  why does it need to go further than that?

never known clams to pass up a chance to call out a herp derp and possibly racist type joke

look here's the deal, you guys can have a pass for being complete racists - i really don't care.  race it up you forking racisms.
Hold on Clams, give him a chance to explain himself.  Maybe there is a specific race that only lives on Troost that only he knows about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 19, 2013, 01:10:24 PM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.. Great video ugly city

KC has it's ugly spots, but has some really great looking areas that edge it closer to beautiful than ugly. St. Louis, OKC, and Chicago are disgusting. Minneapolis, Dallas, and Indy are boring and plain jane. And let's just say Denver is lucky they have the mountains to save them.

yeah, I mean the plaza is about as nice of an area as you'll find in any major midwestern city.  the buildings, the surroundings, the hills.  tremendous.  downtown is fantastic from 3/4 approaches.  westport/39th/etc are all older but well-maintained areas.  the country club district is probably one of the most beautiful neighborhoods I've seen anywhere, especially fairway, westwood, etc.

never been to chicago, minny or indy, but STL and OKC are both awful.  my fiancee is from DFW and thinks DFW is the greatest place on planet earth, but even she'll admit that KC is much prettier than DFW.  parts of denver are nice, but that drive on I-70 from the east toward the mountains is gross.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: p1k3 on July 19, 2013, 01:13:12 PM
awful. oh you don't stop on troost hur hur hur  :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:

Troost is a dump tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 01:14:10 PM
w a r d  p a r k w a y
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on July 19, 2013, 01:20:14 PM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.. Great video ugly city

KC has it's ugly spots, but has some really great looking areas that edge it closer to beautiful than ugly. St. Louis, OKC, and Chicago are disgusting. Minneapolis, Dallas, and Indy are boring and plain jane. And let's just say Denver is lucky they have the mountains to save them.

yeah, I mean the plaza is about as nice of an area as you'll find in any major midwestern city.  the buildings, the surroundings, the hills.  tremendous.  downtown is fantastic from 3/4 approaches.  westport/39th/etc are all older but well-maintained areas.  the country club district is probably one of the most beautiful neighborhoods I've seen anywhere, especially fairway, westwood, etc.

never been to chicago, minny or indy, but STL and OKC are both awful.  my fiancee is from DFW and thinks DFW is the greatest place on planet earth, but even she'll admit that KC is much prettier than DFW.  parts of denver are nice, but that drive on I-70 from the east toward the mountains is gross.
while KC obviously lacks any natural beauty like mountains or a coastline, i find the trees and hills give it more natural beauty than flat and generally dry and treeless towns like OKC and DFW to my hometown biased eye.

STL is very similar but has a more run down feel, prolly due to how much older the Brookside type neighborhoods are.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 19, 2013, 01:40:29 PM
Fanning's top 10 cities:
1. KC
2. New Orleans
3. NYC
4. Philly
5. Chicago
6. Las Vegas
7. LA
8. Miami
9. Scottsdale
10. Dallas (meh)

I still need to hit up the northwest coast and Boston.

*This list is based off of enjoyment of trips through the years and for anyone who's a KC hater. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2013, 01:47:42 PM
KC is not aesthetically pleasing at all.. Great video ugly city

KC has it's ugly spots, but has some really great looking areas that edge it closer to beautiful than ugly. St. Louis, OKC, and Chicago are disgusting. Minneapolis, Dallas, and Indy are boring and plain jane. And let's just say Denver is lucky they have the mountains to save them.

yeah, I mean the plaza is about as nice of an area as you'll find in any major midwestern city.  the buildings, the surroundings, the hills.  tremendous.  downtown is fantastic from 3/4 approaches.  westport/39th/etc are all older but well-maintained areas.  the country club district is probably one of the most beautiful neighborhoods I've seen anywhere, especially fairway, westwood, etc.

never been to chicago, minny or indy, but STL and OKC are both awful.  my fiancee is from DFW and thinks DFW is the greatest place on planet earth, but even she'll admit that KC is much prettier than DFW.  parts of denver are nice, but that drive on I-70 from the east toward the mountains is gross.
while KC obviously lacks any natural beauty like mountains or a coastline, i find the trees and hills give it more natural beauty than flat and generally dry and treeless towns like OKC and DFW to my hometown biased eye.

STL is very similar but has a more run down feel, prolly due to how much older the Brookside type neighborhoods are.

I've seen a few neighborhoods in the deep burbs of STL that have some pretty incred-balls mansions that would shame anything in KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2013, 01:59:30 PM
Go cats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 19, 2013, 03:25:45 PM
Welp! http://www.buzzfeed.com/danoshinsky/signs-you-grew-up-in-kansas-city?s=mobile
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on July 19, 2013, 03:35:33 PM
Welp! http://www.buzzfeed.com/danoshinsky/signs-you-grew-up-in-kansas-city?s=mobile

Proof that I did not grow up here - not a single one of those apply to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on July 19, 2013, 04:20:37 PM
Welp! http://www.buzzfeed.com/danoshinsky/signs-you-grew-up-in-kansas-city?s=mobile

I'd say about 20 apply. TOWNIE.  :blank:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 19, 2013, 04:29:24 PM
so heartwarming
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SabiNation on July 19, 2013, 04:32:46 PM
#17 - Winstead's?

EDIT: Answer is in the comments.  I jumped the gun on that one. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 19, 2013, 11:03:18 PM
i like okc better than kc.  lived both places.   :dunno:

 :flush: :flush: :flush:  okc is wichita with more people.  it is absolutely rough ridin' horrid. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2013, 11:20:25 PM
i like okc better than kc.  lived both places.   :dunno:

 :flush: :flush: :flush:  okc is wichita with more people.  it is absolutely rough ridin' horrid.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2013, 01:57:50 AM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 20, 2013, 02:03:34 AM
i'm starting to wonder if this thread is worse than the destination salina thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Scary Smart on July 20, 2013, 10:16:11 AM
I like Kansas City fine, but people who really love it kind of annoy me for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 20, 2013, 10:19:34 AM
I think I'm way more fond of lenexa than I am of Kansas City.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2013, 10:47:32 AM
I like Kansas City fine, but people who really love it kind of annoy me for whatever reason.

That's weird.  It's pretty much the best city in the world. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chunkles on July 20, 2013, 01:44:49 PM
anybody at BigSlick?  Ask those squawks to come to #ff next year, tia.
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2013, 03:59:56 PM
I think I'm way more fond of lenexa than I am of Kansas City.

Purple belt poster right here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on July 20, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
I think I'm way more fond of lenexa than I am of Kansas City.

That's because no one I know loves Kansas as much as you do.


Also, because Lenexa is elite.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 20, 2013, 07:21:58 PM
I like Kansas City fine, but people who really love it kind of annoy me for whatever reason.

That's weird.  It's pretty much the best city in the world.

yep, 100% agree.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 23, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
My company recently moved to KCMO.

Just got an email to be aware of people in the parking lot because a couple of cars had their catalytic converters stolen last week in the afternoon....This happened the same day the mayor and other people came to "welcome us to missouri"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hatingfrancisco on July 23, 2013, 01:40:36 PM
True Story:

A few years ago I went to NYC with a group of people from KC.  While sitting in some upscale martini bar near Times Square a few of them took offense to my saying there was no place in the country like NYC.  Their response was "Kansas City has everything that NYC does!"

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 23, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
Is this a good time to mention:  just bought a house in Lenexa!  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 23, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
Is this a good time to mention:  just bought a house in Lenexa!  :excited:

welcome to the neighborhood, emo. youll love it here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 23, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Jerry's Bait Shop pak?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 23, 2013, 02:02:33 PM
True Story:

A few years ago I went to NYC with a group of people from KC.  While sitting in some upscale martini bar near Times Square a few of them took offense to my saying there was no place in the country like NYC.  Their response was "Kansas City has everything that NYC does!"

 :dubious:

 :bait:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 23, 2013, 07:12:35 PM
Is this a good time to mention:  just bought a house in Lenexa!  :excited:

welcome to the neighborhood, emo. youll love it here.

Lenexa, great choice for a new grad  :flush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 23, 2013, 07:19:03 PM
My company recently moved to KCMO.

Just got an email to be aware of people in the parking lot because a couple of cars had their catalytic converters stolen last week in the afternoon....This happened the same day the mayor and other people came to "welcome us to missouri"

This happens all over the city.  Shame on those other locations not warning you  :nono:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 23, 2013, 07:22:50 PM
My company recently moved to KCMO.

Just got an email to be aware of people in the parking lot because a couple of cars had their catalytic converters stolen last week in the afternoon....This happened the same day the mayor and other people came to "welcome us to missouri"

This happens all over the city.  Shame on those other locations not warning you  :nono:

Protip: Don't leave your car stereo face in your truck during a thunderstorm in downtown KC, even if it's only 7pm. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 23, 2013, 07:36:21 PM
My company recently moved to KCMO.

Just got an email to be aware of people in the parking lot because a couple of cars had their catalytic converters stolen last week in the afternoon....This happened the same day the mayor and other people came to "welcome us to missouri"

This happens all over the city.  Shame on those other locations not warning you  :nono:

Protip: Don't leave your car stereo face in your truck during a thunderstorm in downtown KC, even if it's only 7pm.

Graco stereos are easy to fence!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate16 on July 23, 2013, 09:04:15 PM
Guys, I need your help. Do any of you know of a good place for Wednesday night trivia in the JoCo area?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 23, 2013, 09:37:06 PM
Guys, I need your help. Do any of you know of a good place for Wednesday night trivia in the JoCo area?
jose peppers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 23, 2013, 11:57:22 PM
Guys, I need your help. Do any of you know of a good place for Wednesday night trivia in the JoCo area?
jose peppers

totally sweet royals happy hour too? :pray:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 24, 2013, 12:10:07 AM
Guys, I need your help. Do any of you know of a good place for Wednesday night trivia in the JoCo area?
jose peppers

totally sweet royals happy hour too? :pray:
no idea.  also no idea if they have trivia.  they might though?

but my gosh, those monterey chicken burritos... :drool:

ay carumba!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 24, 2013, 07:56:05 AM
Guys, I need your help. Do any of you know of a good place for Wednesday night trivia in the JoCo area?

take it to the JOCO thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: areksuwildcat on July 24, 2013, 08:36:32 AM
"Yeah, I don't know why the put in the stop lights on that highway... politics, I guess. Really ruined the highway and I don't want to stop and get shot"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 24, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
Moving between the different Kansas-side suburbs and acting like it's a huge move.

"I live in Olathe but I'm moving to Lenexa soon!"
"Oh wow, good for you, we'll have to catch up before you leave"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 24, 2013, 11:51:31 AM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 24, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
Guys, I need your help. Do any of you know of a good place for Wednesday night trivia in the JoCo area?
jose peppers

can confirm
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 24, 2013, 12:45:26 PM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs

people do that everywhere (as they should)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate16 on July 24, 2013, 04:08:07 PM
Thanks dicks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 24, 2013, 04:36:47 PM
Thanks dicks

have you asked your parents yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on July 24, 2013, 06:53:47 PM
Moving between the different Kansas-side suburbs and acting like it's a huge move.

"I live in Olathe but I'm moving to Lenexa soon!"
"Oh wow, good for you, we'll have to catch up before you leave"

That is a big change tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 24, 2013, 08:42:59 PM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs

Yes, yes, yes.  Did it one year....glad I saw the light
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 24, 2013, 09:36:51 PM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs

One of my buddies from HS just bought a house at 160th and ridgeview in olathe. :(
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 24, 2013, 09:38:13 PM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs

One of my buddies from HS just bought a house at 160th and ridgeview in olathe. :(

t's and p's
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EuroCat on July 24, 2013, 09:50:05 PM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs

One of my buddies from HS just bought a house at 160th and ridgeview in olathe. :(
JFC. Why not just move to western KS?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 24, 2013, 09:55:49 PM
Do some of you guys ever grow tired of trying to list reasons why you're better than everyone? Who gives a crap if someone lives in Joco or kcmo or wherever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 24, 2013, 09:56:25 PM
Of course I be doing that crap too so, you know, glass houses or whatever.  :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 24, 2013, 09:58:45 PM
I just don't know why you'd want to live that far away with nothing to walk to
Title: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 24, 2013, 10:01:58 PM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs

One of my buddies from HS just bought a house at 160th and ridgeview in olathe. :(
Is he married?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 24, 2013, 10:09:03 PM
I just don't know why you'd want to live that far away with nothing to walk to

Exactly.  It's more confusion Cartier...not hate.  We love everybody down here in the city. 
Title: Re: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 24, 2013, 10:32:56 PM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs

One of my buddies from HS just bought a house at 160th and ridgeview in olathe. :(
Is he married?

Duh
Title: Re: Re: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 24, 2013, 10:37:49 PM
Judging the crap out of anyone younger than 30 that lives in the suburbs

One of my buddies from HS just bought a house at 160th and ridgeview in olathe. :(
Is he married?

Duh

Even married I can't imagine what that life is like...unless it's orgy houseparties with the other MILFs in the cul-d-sac...then I guess it's not horrible....even if you do have to dine at Applebees.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on July 24, 2013, 10:51:36 PM
Great area!

I'll see him at austins on monday for half price burgers!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 09, 2013, 04:41:21 PM
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Westbound lanes of Interstate 70 reopened late Friday morning at the Benton Curve after a cattle truck overturned.

KMBC's Jana Corrie said the driver was not hurt. A passenger in the truck suffered minor injuries.

Police said the driver of the truck, who was heading for Colorado, told them that his load shifted, causing the accident.

One cow escaped the trailer after the crash. Authorities had to call in another trailer to offload the cattle.

There were 79 head of cattle on the trailer. Police said 72 steers survived.

One westbound lane of I-70 reopened at 10:30 a.m.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/kansas-city/wb-i70-closed-at-benton-curve-after-cattle-truck-overturns/-/11664182/21398690/-/12f33wyz/-/index.html#ixzz2bVfJbYsK

(http://www.kmbc.com/image/view/-/21399644/medRes/1/-/maxh/358/maxw/538/-/gexhcs/-/cattle7-jpg.jpg)

(http://www.kmbc.com/image/view/-/21399636/medRes/1/-/maxh/358/maxw/538/-/a69fda/-/cattle3-jpg.jpg)

(http://www.kmbc.com/image/view/-/21399934/lowRes/1/-/maxh/358/maxw/538/-/cb4n40/-/cattle8.jpg)

(http://www.kmbc.com/image/view/-/21400156/lowRes/2/-/maxh/358/maxw/538/-/4s37iyz/-/cattle10.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 09, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
How did they find real cowboys so quickly?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on August 09, 2013, 04:57:57 PM
I enjoyed the video  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 09, 2013, 05:04:55 PM
How did they find real cowboys so quickly?

I imagine a cold open like law and order with a KC cowboy's phone ringing at 3AM. he answers with a gruff, "yeah? aw crap. yeah I'm on my way." the girl next to him says sleepily, "what is it?" he answers, "go back to sleep baby, gotta go to work." then jumps on his horse and gallops down the highway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 09, 2013, 05:49:53 PM
Did you see that cow bite it on his way out the semi? :frown:
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 09, 2013, 05:50:51 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 09, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
I hope we get to eat the dead 6 cows in their honor. :lick: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 09, 2013, 06:31:55 PM
going to eat at mi ranchito and running into cf3.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 09, 2013, 06:39:55 PM
going to eat at mi ranchito and running into cf3.

 :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 09, 2013, 06:44:14 PM
going to eat at mi ranchito and running into cf3.

 :peek:

I ordered the number 10. will update with review.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 09, 2013, 06:46:59 PM
going to eat at mi ranchito and running into cf3.

 :peek:

I ordered the number 10. will update with review.

tourists......
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 09, 2013, 08:43:26 PM
going to eat at mi ranchito and running into cf3.

:eye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate16 on August 10, 2013, 01:05:14 PM
That awful smell on the Lewis and Clark Viaduct Bridge.  Seriously, what is that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on August 11, 2013, 01:32:56 PM
going to eat at mi ranchito and running into cf3.

 :peek:

I ordered the number 10. will update with review.

I always get steak enchiladas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 11, 2013, 01:38:15 PM
Pool days at Lawrence Tynes place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 20, 2013, 09:30:56 AM
IN THE SHOPS AT DEER CREEK WOODS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SabiNation on August 20, 2013, 09:41:52 AM
This guy!

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4040/4359646495_86811c531b_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 20, 2013, 09:46:01 AM
JOZZIN'S JOORY!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 05, 2013, 12:08:49 PM
this is pretty good

http://findingkansascity.com/lists/16-things-instagram-has-taught-us-about-kansas-city (http://findingkansascity.com/lists/16-things-instagram-has-taught-us-about-kansas-city)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 05, 2013, 12:37:22 PM
this is pretty good

http://findingkansascity.com/lists/16-things-instagram-has-taught-us-about-kansas-city (http://findingkansascity.com/lists/16-things-instagram-has-taught-us-about-kansas-city)
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 05, 2013, 02:16:03 PM
those instagrams of landmarks and food and beer and sporting events were so uniquely KC. Well done!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2013, 09:06:42 AM
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/4/4693708/detours-hallmark-kansas-city-decline-of-the-greeting-card
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 06, 2013, 09:12:33 AM
Not good for my gf who I'm currently fighting with. Maybe I'll send that over to her to start the morning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2013, 11:59:56 AM
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/4/4693708/detours-hallmark-kansas-city-decline-of-the-greeting-card

I love watching a well-produced and interesting video  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2013, 12:24:28 PM
very nice video, the black guy was fantastic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 25, 2013, 09:04:45 AM
Rimann Liquors beer tastings on Wednesday.  Tonight:  Tallgrass Brewery.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on September 25, 2013, 09:36:42 AM
Rimann Liquors beer tastings on Wednesday.  Tonight:  Tallgrass Brewery.

My beer glass at a bar in Sioux Falls had a Tallgrass Brewery Logo.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 11, 2013, 10:54:01 AM
the eff is this?

http://thenewkc.com/ (http://thenewkc.com/)

(http://static.squarespace.com/static/524b1c5ee4b07ffffcab0783/5256db3fe4b04e2e8158d9fc/5256ea87e4b0989fbaf11f87/1381427857570/kcmo14.png?format=1500w)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 11, 2013, 11:32:29 AM
I like the new logo. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 11, 2013, 11:37:08 AM
didn't realize the old was was so terrible.

(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-mokss.gif)

definitely like the new one better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 11, 2013, 11:47:13 AM
very monarch-y
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 11, 2013, 11:48:17 AM
very monarch-y

yeah when i first saw a mention of a new "KC logo" on twitter i thought it was for the Royals and i was furious. after about 3 seconds of critical thinking however i realized that was most likely not what was going on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 11, 2013, 11:50:52 AM
very monarch-y

yeah when i first saw a mention of a new "KC logo" on twitter i thought it was for the Royals and i was furious. after about 3 seconds of critical thinking however i realized that was most likely not what was going on.

congrats on becoming a true kansas citian.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SabiNation on October 11, 2013, 01:15:55 PM
I like it better than the old one, that's for sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 11, 2013, 03:04:57 PM
I like the fountains. Also, teal?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: paulnyakatura on October 12, 2013, 09:24:31 PM
Bragging about arriving at the airport 15 minutes before a flight.

THIS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: paulnyakatura on October 12, 2013, 09:42:17 PM
"Passengers can drink in the car on the Missouri side ....   I know, awesome right?"

And this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: paulnyakatura on October 12, 2013, 09:46:42 PM
thinking KC could/would support a 3rd major sports team

not this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 13, 2013, 03:39:54 PM
World records.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 13, 2013, 05:42:50 PM
being happy when your local professional sports team gets a win in the regular season  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 13, 2013, 06:10:15 PM
being happy when your local professional sports team gets a win in the regular season  :Woot:

Our cats don't provide me that joy this year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on October 17, 2013, 02:13:33 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/17/4558825/kansas-citys-boulevard-brewing.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2013, 02:23:11 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on October 17, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 17, 2013, 02:28:01 PM
the eff, boulevard?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 17, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/17/4558825/kansas-citys-boulevard-brewing.html

Meh...

If it's like Goose Island, many stipulations were set.  Whats nice is the company that bought them aren't ginormous, but big enough to financially help.  Looks like sponsorships, management, brewing location, etc. are staying around and it's more of a revenue stream. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on October 17, 2013, 02:28:47 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/17/4558825/kansas-citys-boulevard-brewing.html

Meh...

If it's like Goose Island, many stipulations were set.  Whats nice is the company that bought them aren't ginormous, but big enough to financially help.  Looks like sponsorships, management, brewing location, etc. are staying around and it's more of a revenue stream.

This
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 17, 2013, 02:29:43 PM
it's the principle
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 17, 2013, 02:33:46 PM
not sure i see the goose island comparo   duvel is serious about beer.  there is no comparision b/w this and the goose island sale to AB Inbev imo.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 17, 2013, 02:34:22 PM
BOYCOTT BOULEVARD!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 17, 2013, 02:36:08 PM
socialists and terrorists
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 17, 2013, 02:39:24 PM
not sure i see the goose island comparo   duvel is serious about beer.  there is no comparision b/w this and the goose island sale to AB Inbev imo.

The comparo being Goose Island made a lot of stipulations on their beer before selling in order for it to continue to feel like a craft brewery and not a mass-production brewery like Anheuser Busch.  Some of Goose Island's beers are not allowed to be distributed outside of Chicago city limits due to the stipulations listed in the contract.

And yes, Duvel is serious about beer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 17, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
didn't know about the goose island stipus, good idea.  anyway, boulevard has grown huge, this is a good thing to sell to duvel before some other dumbass beer people came and bought it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on October 17, 2013, 02:56:30 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Boulevard?filter=2

Kansas City loves getting pissed off at "not staying local"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 17, 2013, 02:58:01 PM
http://www.boulevard.com/a-letter-from-our-founder/ (http://www.boulevard.com/a-letter-from-our-founder/)



Quote
A Letter From Our Founder

October 17, 2013

Dear Friends,

Almost 30 years ago, I was fortunate to spend time traveling around Europe with my wife, Anne Blumer. In each city I visited, one of my favorite adventures was trying different beers. I sipped bitter ales in England, spent my days in Munich drinking pilsners and wheat beers, but it was in Paris, in a Belgian beer bar, that I truly fell in love.

I will never forget the day. I walked into the pub, ordered a Belgian ale, and experienced what I can only describe as an epiphany. The beer was brilliant in color, with intensely floral aromas and a flavor bursting with joyous complexity. I went back day after day, sampling a wide array of amazing beers, and was hooked for life.

Last winter my wife and I returned to that same Parisian pub, and the memory of that long-ago experience flooded my senses. It has been many years since that fateful encounter started me on the path to brewing my own beer and founding Boulevard Brewing Company. At the outset, my goal was to make a beer as extraordinary as the Belgian ales I had so fortuitously discovered. With the help of my parents Bill and Mary and my wife Anne, Boulevard has grown into one of the largest craft breweries in the country, and my dream has become a reality. While I always say I don't have a favorite Boulevard beer, I must admit that some of the Belgian ales in our lineup are as exciting to me as those beers I first tasted in Paris all those years ago.

I have long felt as though I have three children: Boulevard, born in 1989, Jake, in 1990, and Piper, in 1992. I'm not getting any younger, and the long-term future of the brewery has weighed on my mind for the past several years. After long discussions with my family, we determined that we wanted to find a way to take Boulevard to the next level while retaining its essence, its people, its personality – all the characteristics that make our beer and our brewery so important to Kansas City and the Midwest.
I am honored and humbled to announce that I have chosen Duvel Moortgat as the long-term partner for Boulevard. An independent, family-owned craft brewer spanning four generations, Duvel Moortgat produces world-class beers at several breweries in Belgium, and owns and operates Brewery Ommegang in Cooperstown, NY. They bring to us an unparalleled depth of experience, strong resources, and an unwavering devotion to quality. Duvel Moortgat is committed to our people, to the expansion of our Kansas City brewery, and to growing Boulevard brands throughout the US and abroad. After spending a lot of time getting to know the company and its people, I am confident this is the right decision. We share the same values, respect each other's achievements, and have the same obsession for exceptional beers.

Be assured that this is not goodbye. Although Boulevard is combining with Duvel Moortgat, I will remain closely involved, with a continuing stake in the business and a seat on the board. My commitment to sustainability initiatives will continue, as will Boulevard’s support of Ripple Glass, the glass recycling company I co-founded.

For now, all I can say is thank you. Thank you for making the last 24 years an amazing journey for me and the entire Boulevard family. We will continue to work hard to produce great beers, and to give back to the community. Ultimately, I am determined to make Kansas City even more proud of its hometown brewery, and our dedicated supporters delighted to raise a glass of Boulevard beer.

Cheers,

John McDonald
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 17, 2013, 03:01:03 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Boulevard?filter=2

Kansas City loves getting pissed off at "not staying local"

combined with the Royals posting support of anti-bullying for young LGBT's (along with the rest of the MLB), this has been a fun day of facebook comment watching.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 17, 2013, 03:01:27 PM
if I were his kids I'd be pissed.  come on dad, just stick it out another 10 years and let me take over.  but I doubt it will really change anything for the consumers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on October 17, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
Obviously, I get why people are upset.  But handing over the reins of the business to someone else who is VERY good at it and letting your head brewers focus on making the best beer they can seems pretty reasonable to me.  They are not letting this become Blue Moon here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2013, 03:03:14 PM
knee-jerk reaction:  :curse:

after reading more information  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on October 17, 2013, 03:06:31 PM
if I were his kids I'd be pissed.  come on dad, just stick it out another 10 years and let me take over.  but I doubt it will really change anything for the consumers.

His kids are probably spoiled JoCo brats that would destroy his legacy. Good for him. Congrats Belgium
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 17, 2013, 03:08:38 PM
if I were his kids I'd be pissed.  come on dad, just stick it out another 10 years and let me take over.  but I doubt it will really change anything for the consumers.

His kids are probably spoiled JoCo brats that would destroy his legacy. Good for him. Congrats Belgium

that's true.  and he did pick a good company to sell to.  not really that big of a deal imo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2013, 03:10:31 PM
at the very least now we don't have to hear about anymore butt hurt "largest american beer in missouri"  :blah:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 17, 2013, 03:11:43 PM
drunk clams cornered mcdonald at the waldo beer fest two summers ago and together we developed a plan to incorporate glass recycling across the entire plaza area.  i was supposed to call him the next week but was like, meh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 17, 2013, 03:12:24 PM
also saw wabash909 at said event and got on the open mike and asked the guys from Stone some question
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2013, 03:12:37 PM
i think that conversation had a ripple effect on the community, clamsypoo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 17, 2013, 05:37:57 PM
At first I was  :surprised: but now I think this is  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 17, 2013, 05:41:44 PM
putting satellite dishes on the front of your house.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2013, 05:50:29 PM
At first I was  :surprised: but now I think this is  :cheers:

How original Phil, great stuff as always
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 17, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
At first I was  :surprised: but now I think this is  :cheers:

How original Phil, great stuff as always

Ouch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2013, 07:39:55 PM
Phil is a great poster fwiw
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 17, 2013, 07:44:29 PM
Need a :hattip:

I see it now...great minds think alike!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on October 23, 2013, 09:26:17 AM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/waldo-neighborhood-waldo-area-business-association-diane-botwin-lewellen-bingham-wal-mart/Content?oid=4005686&storyPage=1

Love to binge in waldo!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 23, 2013, 09:41:04 AM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/waldo-neighborhood-waldo-area-business-association-diane-botwin-lewellen-bingham-wal-mart/Content?oid=4005686&storyPage=1

Love to binge in waldo!

did read
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 23, 2013, 10:32:36 AM
nice article.  I like waldo.  bier station is good if you haven't been, a bit pricey but tasty and a good beer selection obviously.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 23, 2013, 11:08:17 AM
Has anyone mentioned the Crawl for Cancer?  It is a pretty great drunken orgy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on October 23, 2013, 11:14:16 AM
Has anyone mentioned the Crawl for Cancer?  It is a pretty great drunken orgy

OMG Yes, but have not been since they moved it to P&L though.

Last time it was in Westport a friend of mine may or may not have gone swimming in the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fountain on 43rd and JC Nichols Parkway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 23, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
wait, c for c is in p&l now? that sucks. last time i went was spring '12. great binge.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 23, 2013, 11:33:32 AM
it was awesome in westport.  didn't go in p&l.  they were trying to set a guiness record for biggest pub crawl, and I guess it was easier to track the numbers at p&l.  no idea if they beat the record or not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2013, 11:42:08 AM
Has anyone mentioned the Crawl for Cancer?  It is a pretty great drunken orgy
isnt this thread a kansas city things thread?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 23, 2013, 11:49:55 AM
bob strawn does not approve
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2013, 11:58:43 AM
it was awesome in westport.  didn't go in p&l.  they were trying to set a guiness record for biggest pub crawl, and I guess it was easier to track the numbers at p&l.  no idea if they beat the record or not.

speaking of records, kansas city and the midwest are both very happy to self-validate through breaking meaningless guinness world records that no one thought existed or cared about.  which are then quickly broken by real cities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 23, 2013, 12:02:10 PM
there's 2 Crawls for Cancer. the spring one was the first in P&L. however last weekend in westport there was another one. can confirm
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2013, 12:06:09 PM
there's 2 Crawls for Cancer. the spring one was the first in P&L. however last weekend in westport there was another one. can confirm

also, i can confirm that they're well attended across the country
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on October 23, 2013, 12:11:44 PM
C4C is amateur night(day). No way would I want to be in a bar with that many people binge drinking who only binge drink 2 times a year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 23, 2013, 12:13:13 PM
it was awesome in westport.  didn't go in p&l.  they were trying to set a guiness record for biggest pub crawl, and I guess it was easier to track the numbers at p&l.  no idea if they beat the record or not.

speaking of records, kansas city and the midwest are both very happy to self-validate through breaking meaningless guinness world records that no one thought existed or cared about.  which are then quickly broken by real cities.

I'm personally pretty excited to break the record for most cows near an airport runway in the world

speaking of which, if it hasn't been posted already: cows near the airport runway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 23, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
yes, kansas city kicks ass at that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 23, 2013, 12:27:26 PM
Never done the crawl, but always Partied hard those weekends when I lived in kc.  Lots of #fanningbrags, but this is a family blog.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 19, 2013, 11:18:13 AM
death slide

http://gizmodo.com/the-world-s-tallest-waterslide-better-end-in-the-world-1467340805 (http://gizmodo.com/the-world-s-tallest-waterslide-better-end-in-the-world-1467340805)

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196tsxnulbdmvjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on November 19, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 19, 2013, 11:23:44 AM
Look at KC, smashing another record.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
death slide

http://gizmodo.com/the-world-s-tallest-waterslide-better-end-in-the-world-1467340805 (http://gizmodo.com/the-world-s-tallest-waterslide-better-end-in-the-world-1467340805)

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196tsxnulbdmvjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
NO THANKS! I almost flew off one at Oceans of fun cause I'm so gangly. Someone will die on that thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 19, 2013, 11:24:29 AM
 :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 19, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
 :sdeek: :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 19, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
yeah it's even more ridiculous in person... like, when you get to the bottom i'm assuming you'll be going like, 60 mph, and it doesn't flatten out at all, it just sends you right back up over a hill. it truly makes me wonder how A)you won't get smashed at the very bottom and die and/or B)you won't just totally launch off the entire rough ridin' thing when you go up the hill.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 19, 2013, 01:12:28 PM
It's like you people have never heard of engineers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2013, 01:13:10 PM
It's like you people have never heard of engineers.

I know rite?  My TI-85 says it'll be fine (probably).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 01:18:54 PM
It's like you people have never heard of engineers.
I don't trust them after I almost died. They probably went to a shitty engineering school tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on November 19, 2013, 01:19:40 PM
It's like you people have never heard of engineers.

The people that drive trains?  :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 19, 2013, 01:20:37 PM
It's like you people have never heard of engineers.
I don't trust them after I almost died. They probably went to a shitty engineering school tho.

So the thing worked exactly like it should and you did not die.   Yup, sounds like terrible engineering...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 19, 2013, 01:21:02 PM
just made this in roller coaster tycoon.... doesn't look good  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 01:26:05 PM
It's like you people have never heard of engineers.
I don't trust them after I almost died. They probably went to a shitty engineering school tho.

So the thing worked exactly like it should and you did not die.   Yup, sounds like terrible engineering...
I had to cling for dear life. I saved my life, minus their malfunction. They should have written me a fat check for saving them millions of dollars out of lawsuit money.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 19, 2013, 01:29:11 PM
It's like you people have never heard of engineers.

alright mr. smarty mcsmarterthanyou of course i don't actually think i'm going to die. i'm conveying my sense of awe through a general portrayal of certainty that i will die if i ride it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 19, 2013, 01:33:49 PM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ft4z3AJM1rwcc6bo1_400.gif)
you were all warned
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 19, 2013, 01:36:29 PM
It's like you people have never heard of engineers.

alright mr. smarty mcsmarterthanyou of course i don't actually think i'm going to die. i'm conveying my sense of awe through a general portrayal of certainty that i will die if i ride it.

That's what makes it fun  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 19, 2013, 01:37:24 PM
no but seriously, you'll die if you ride it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 01:39:09 PM
no but seriously, you'll die if you ride it
I've tried to tell him that, but he won't listen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on November 19, 2013, 01:39:25 PM
Have you seen how many steps you have to climb to get to the top of that thing?  No thanks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 19, 2013, 01:40:19 PM
Have you seen how many steps you have to climb to get to the top of that thing?  No thanks.

yes, the walk to the top would eff me up more than the ride down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2013, 01:41:34 PM
fanning, go face first
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 01:42:20 PM
fanning, go face first
:eek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 19, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
there used to be a small water slide park at mhk. true story. it was basically across the street from the daras that is over the bridge on LHC Bill Snyder highway. anyway, some guy tried to do a headstand while going down it and fell over the side to the ground and died.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2013, 01:51:13 PM
there used to be a small water slide park at mhk. true story. it was basically across the street from the daras that is over the bridge on LHC Bill Snyder highway. anyway, some guy tried to do a headstand while going down it and fell over the side to the ground and died.

Was he in that lifeguard picture with Bill and unnamed hotty?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 19, 2013, 01:51:52 PM
there used to be a small water slide park at mhk. true story. it was basically across the street from the daras that is over the bridge on LHC Bill Snyder highway. anyway, some guy tried to do a headstand while going down it and fell over the side to the ground and died.
how do you explain this one seven!?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 01:52:36 PM
there used to be a small water slide park at mhk. true story. it was basically across the street from the daras that is over the bridge on LHC LHC Bill Snyder highway. anyway, some guy tried to do a headstand while going down it and fell over the side to the ground and died.
how do you explain this one seven!?
HE CAN'T!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 19, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
there used to be a small water slide park at mhk. true story. it was basically across the street from the daras that is over the bridge on LHC Bill Snyder highway. anyway, some guy tried to do a headstand while going down it and fell over the side to the ground and died.

imagine if he fell to something besides the ground!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on November 19, 2013, 02:02:05 PM
wackyskwak, retell the story of almost dying on a water slide.

i searched for the old posts but all i could find is that you either flew off a slide and almost died or almost flew off and died.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 02:06:14 PM
Here's engineers kicking ass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxAV7VpCX5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ub6-7UOuM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOhnoJbQ0jI

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 02:08:54 PM
wackyskwak, retell the story of almost dying on a water slide.

i searched for the old posts but all i could find is that you either flew off a slide and almost died or almost flew off and died.
Both times at Oceans of fun.

1. Was on that racing slide that goes straight down. I hit a bump and was lifted up in the air on a free fall. I had 4 cuts on my legs from that event.  :cheers: Engineers  :D

2. Was a half tube slide. I came out of the hole and hit a corner and half my body hung over the side.  :ohno: I screamed and held on until I regained balance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on November 19, 2013, 02:14:29 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 02:17:46 PM
I'm thinking about starting a waterslide awareness campaign.  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2013, 03:04:41 PM
Whoever designed those didn't ask St Patrick for guidance.  rough ridin' heathen death traps.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 03:11:24 PM
Whoever designed those didn't ask St Patrick for guidance.  rough ridin' heathen death traps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znigWfsTbCI

 :sdeek: #TeamEngineers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 19, 2013, 03:16:41 PM
lol, you know wacky is leaving out the detail about him trying to get air or something in the process.

#nonegativeconsequences
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 03:20:27 PM
lol, you know wacky is leaving out the detail about him trying to get air or something in the process.

#nonegativeconsequences
:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 19, 2013, 03:21:57 PM
Anyone who goes down that slide is a dumb dumb wrapped around an idiot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 19, 2013, 03:31:18 PM
Anyone who goes down that slide is a dumb dumb wrapped around an idiot

the idiot would add a lot of mass, which would actually reduce their chances of flying off the slide. really a catch 22 here, cartier.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 19, 2013, 03:33:41 PM
Anyone who goes down that slide is a dumb dumb wrapped around an idiot

the idiot would add a lot of mass, which would actually reduce their chances of flying off the slide. really a catch 22 here, cartier.

no not really.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on November 19, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Would not ride that death trap for $1000
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 19, 2013, 03:49:40 PM
Whoever designed those didn't ask St Patrick for guidance.  rough ridin' heathen death traps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znigWfsTbCI

 :sdeek: #TeamEngineers

I would imagine #TeamEngineers would recommend that dumbass not try going down the slide on this f(cking knees, Fanning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2013, 04:57:44 PM
this has a raft that you ride down the slide on it in.  source:  mark clegg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 19, 2013, 05:47:11 PM
wait, c for c is in p&l now? that sucks. last time i went was spring '12. great binge.

I think that was a one time thing to set some sort of world pub crawl record....which I doubt it did.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2013, 08:46:09 PM
Have you seen how many steps you have to climb to get to the top of that thing?  No thanks.

Yeah.  This and the fact that it is in KCK basically guarantee that it becomes the most expensive decorative water fountain in kck until they install a chair lift or something. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 19, 2013, 09:11:19 PM
Have you seen how many steps you have to climb to get to the top of that thing?  No thanks.

Yeah.  This and the fact that it is in KCK basically guarantee that it becomes the most expensive decorative water fountain in kck until they install a chair lift or something.

Ferris wheel water slide combo?   Yes please  :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 08:27:45 AM
What's the deal with those little blue lights on top of the traffic lights in OP? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 08:46:35 AM
is anybody going to Party Arty? i am on the _FENCE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2014, 08:48:50 AM
What's the deal with those little blue lights on top of the traffic lights in OP?

Red light camera's I believe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2014, 08:52:19 AM
What's the deal with those little blue lights on top of the traffic lights in OP?

drones
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 14, 2014, 08:54:01 AM
What's the deal with those little blue lights on top of the traffic lights in OP?

directions to KMart
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on January 14, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
What's the deal with those little blue lights on top of the traffic lights in OP?

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_news/blue-lights-at-traffic-signals-are-newest-tools-to-stop-red-light-runners (http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_news/blue-lights-at-traffic-signals-are-newest-tools-to-stop-red-light-runners)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 09:11:15 AM
Thanks for speaking up TheCatFanSpeaks.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2014, 09:19:54 AM
It would be cool if they spent that money on timing the lights so it is possible to be first in line at one light, on 119th for example, and when it turns green drive the speed limit to the next light and arrive shortly after it turns green so you can continue to your destination.  As almost all of OP is set now, you will arrive at the next light just as it turns red.  Wasting fuel and time, harming the environment and economy in the process.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 14, 2014, 09:27:53 AM
It would be cool if they spent that money on timing the lights so it is possible to be first in line at one light, on 119th for example, and when it turns green drive the speed limit to the next light and arrive shortly after it turns green so you can continue to your destination.  As almost all of OP is set now, you will arrive at the next light just as it turns red.  Wasting fuel and time, harming the environment and economy in the process.

they generally are set like that during the busy times. at night the lights go by traffic sensors. at least the new ones do...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 09:29:56 AM
stop talking about stupid OP things. this is the Kansas City things thread.

IS ANYBODY GOING TO PARTY ARTY FOR PETE'S SAKES
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2014, 09:32:13 AM
It would be cool if they spent that money on timing the lights so it is possible to be first in line at one light, on 119th for example, and when it turns green drive the speed limit to the next light and arrive shortly after it turns green so you can continue to your destination.  As almost all of OP is set now, you will arrive at the next light just as it turns red.  Wasting fuel and time, harming the environment and economy in the process.

they generally are set like that during the busy times. at night the lights go by traffic sensors. at least the new ones do...

the first concept is stupid, you could adjust them so they clear the N/S lanes as the E/W were approaching.

and there are VERY few in this city that have traffic sensors.  They really want you to think they do but you can sit at a red light and be the only one in sight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 14, 2014, 09:42:49 AM
It would be cool if they spent that money on timing the lights so it is possible to be first in line at one light, on 119th for example, and when it turns green drive the speed limit to the next light and arrive shortly after it turns green so you can continue to your destination.  As almost all of OP is set now, you will arrive at the next light just as it turns red.  Wasting fuel and time, harming the environment and economy in the process.

they generally are set like that during the busy times. at night the lights go by traffic sensors. at least the new ones do...

the first concept is stupid, you could adjust them so they clear the N/S lanes as the E/W were approaching.

and there are VERY few in this city that have traffic sensors.  They really want you to think they do but you can sit at a red light and be the only one in sight.

I mean, this assumes that all the traffic coming to an intersection is coming from a previous intersection. also that everyone is going between the speed limit threshold that would make the light green for everyone. add in people who slam on their breaks during yellows and the system is mumped. its great in theory, as most traffic is, but it doesn't work all the time.

also, most lights in the city do have traffic sensors (actually called traffic loops), they've just had new pavement over them so you cant always see them. you may not be able to see the slits in the pavement but if you look at the curb where the base of the light is, usually you can see some slits going up the curb into one single slit running to a box. generally, the loops are only designed to feel a car through a certain amount of pavement. the more pavement that gets added on, the worse they work. also, some of them are old and just break. the city may not fix them all the time because theyre expensive.

source- guy I knew from Orlando when i was doing investment stuff did traffic things for a living.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on January 14, 2014, 09:53:27 AM
Restaurant week at Ruth's Chris this weekend.  Nom nom nom....    :billdance:

Does anyone know if I can wear janes?   :Carl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2014, 10:15:07 AM
stop talking about stupid OP things. this is the Kansas City things thread.

IS ANYBODY GOING TO PARTY ARTY FOR PETE'S SAKES

i am not going but i love to make fun of those that do.  nightlifekc.com does a great job highlighting these tools.
http://nightlifekc.com/gallery/012112-party-arty-crowd

^hey mr philanthropy don't kid yourself into thinking that this is how you give back.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
stop talking about stupid OP things. this is the Kansas City things thread.

IS ANYBODY GOING TO PARTY ARTY FOR PETE'S SAKES

i am not going but i love to make fun of those that do.  nightlifekc.com does a great job highlighting these tools.
http://nightlifekc.com/gallery/012112-party-arty-crowd

^hey mr philanthropy don't kid yourself into thinking that this is how you give back.

i mean for $90 i would rather not get kicked out at midnight
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 11:37:38 AM
Out of all the restaurant week spots, Clams, where should I go? Minus capital grille.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2014, 01:14:18 PM
tough call, ws.  you & philly?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 01:14:44 PM
tough call, ws.  you & philly?
Yes!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2014, 01:33:45 PM
most places are a zoo.  pro tip- find somewhere different that other people won't think about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 01:37:10 PM
most places are a zoo.  pro tip- find somewhere different that other people won't think about.
:thumbs: She wants to make a reservation today for Sunday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2014, 01:44:34 PM
take her to bluestem, it's half off
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 01:48:50 PM
take her to bluestem, it's half off
Thanks, bud! :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2014, 03:15:26 PM
Hey clams/wacky, need some help here.

GF just moved down to Rivermarket area and I need some good insidery tips about cool places/things to do down there. I'll list everything I know and you guyz can tell me what I don't know.

-Farmers Market in summer, duh
-Had some drinks at harry's CC one time after work, was pretty neat.
- always heard good things about caddyshack pizza but I got it the night she moved in and it was "meh"
-Had breakfast at city diner, "meh"

Alright guyz, take it away.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 03:37:01 PM
-Farmhouse is an excellent breakfast/ brunch place and it's on my st. :surprised:
-Blue line has really good happy hours and $1 beers before all Royals games.
-Love the Minsky's down there for games too.
-original garazzos is down there and Anthoneys.
-love Johns Big Deck in the summer
-The library hosts movies on the roof top in the summer. BYOB. :cheers:
-Quaff
-Cascones
-Mafia tours. The tunnels are under us in the river market.
-Speaking of the river, great running trail by it.
-Pak w/ good buddy fanman.
-Great coffee shops. Love Quay.
-Cafe all dente on my st.

Plus all the things you said and more...

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 14, 2014, 03:39:11 PM
Hey clams/wacky, need some help here.

GF just moved down to Rivermarket area and I need some good insidery tips about cool places/things to do down there.

Not sure that 'Clams has ever left the plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 03:48:43 PM
Oh yeah, how could I forgot? The Peanut. I go at least twice a week. Fantastic bloodies.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 03:57:40 PM
cascone's is garbage. ben ji, give city diner another try, maybe for lunch. it is not healthy food tho.

there is a delicious gyro/shawarma place in the market.

definitely take a stroll through planters sometime with your ladyfriend. it is fascinating.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 03:59:35 PM
cascone's is garbage. ben ji, give city diner another try, maybe for lunch. it is not healthy food tho.

there is a delicious gyro/shawarma place in the market.

definitely take a stroll through planters sometime with your ladyfriend. it is fascinating.
You're garbage!  :shakesfist: My list is elite and you know it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 04:01:15 PM
your list is pretty great but cascone's is garbage. will def do the library roof thing sometime this summer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2014, 04:04:10 PM
Thanks guyz! I love me some gyro's so I will try that place out and give Farmhouse a shot for breakfast.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2014, 04:07:56 PM
quay is very meh and the wait on a saturday is gross AF

happy gilmore has elite sammies

nice dinner downtown is Aixois brasserie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 04:08:18 PM
your list is pretty great but cascone's is garbage. will def do the library roof thing sometime this summer
Yeah, that's fair. I was pretty hungover when we went there. You better get your hipster game up, Ben ji, you're in the Mecca of it in KC. Places like happy gillis are great ppl watching (they make brunch with blvd beer products).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on January 14, 2014, 04:09:26 PM
How does one sign up for the mafia tours?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Paul Moscow on January 14, 2014, 04:14:31 PM
Don't know if discussed but went to Genesee Royale by Kemper in West Bottoms - liked it and would go back, not terribly far from River Market.

Speaking of they took the couches out of Happy Gillis and replaced them with tables? Most have gotten more popular.

I like Quay coffee but went on a late Sunday afternoon and it was def crowded - but plenty of outdoor benches nearby.

Farmhouse didn't meet expectations. Food/service ok. Whoever decorated that place is woof.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 04:17:56 PM
How does one sign up for the mafia tours?
They advertise it on the radio. Not sure. I've never done it, but it sounds like a lot of fun. You even eat at Garazzos since a lot of stuff went down there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
Don't know if discussed but went to Genesee Royale by Kemper in West Bottoms - liked it and would go back, not terribly far from River Market.


yeah this place is great. went there for lunch a few times and sat outside last summer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 04:19:52 PM
Don't know if discussed but went to Genesee Royale by Kemper in West Bottoms - liked it and would go back, not terribly far from River Market.

Speaking of they took the couches out of Happy Gillis and replaced them with tables? Most have gotten more popular.

I like Quay coffee but went on a late Sunday afternoon and it was def crowded - but plenty of outdoor benches nearby.

Farmhouse didn't meet expectations. Food/service ok. Whoever decorated that place is woof.
You're woof, you bad person! They have the best breakfast sandwich i've ever had in the history of time. I'd put them up there with Succotash. Speaking of the west bottoms, I always forget it's right there. I really want to go back to the Golden Ox sometime soon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on January 14, 2014, 04:22:30 PM
mocat, you should def go to that steampunk thing you were talking about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 04:24:35 PM
 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
Best Happy Hours downtown for the buck:

1. Bar Louie
2. Blu Line
3. Nara

Majestic is awesome as well. Best Manhattan in the city and in the upstairs they have a cigar club for guys only. A lot of important ppl up there. Most of KCPD.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Paul Moscow on January 14, 2014, 04:26:28 PM
Don't know if discussed but went to Genesee Royale by Kemper in West Bottoms - liked it and would go back, not terribly far from River Market.

Speaking of they took the couches out of Happy Gillis and replaced them with tables? Most have gotten more popular.

I like Quay coffee but went on a late Sunday afternoon and it was def crowded - but plenty of outdoor benches nearby.

Farmhouse didn't meet expectations. Food/service ok. Whoever decorated that place is woof.
You're woof, you bad person! They have the best breakfast sandwich i've ever had in the history of time. I'd put them up there with Succotash. Speaking of the west bottoms, I always forget it's right there. I really want to go back to the Golden Ox sometime soon.

I had the brunch burger off the special menu but will try the breakfast sandwich next time I go - probably would have gotten it had I note been ripped on coffee and feeling risky. Draught selection was pretty good. Speaking of, do they have a guy there that crinkles the menus after they print and spills maple syrup on them?

That's a great corner right there though, location is top notch.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on January 14, 2014, 04:31:00 PM
mocat, you should def go to that steampunk thing you were talking about
I had no idea what this crap was until Christmas and saw some of Mrs. Gooch's relatives.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 04:34:05 PM
Don't know if discussed but went to Genesee Royale by Kemper in West Bottoms - liked it and would go back, not terribly far from River Market.

Speaking of they took the couches out of Happy Gillis and replaced them with tables? Most have gotten more popular.

I like Quay coffee but went on a late Sunday afternoon and it was def crowded - but plenty of outdoor benches nearby.

Farmhouse didn't meet expectations. Food/service ok. Whoever decorated that place is woof.
You're woof, you bad person! They have the best breakfast sandwich i've ever had in the history of time. I'd put them up there with Succotash. Speaking of the west bottoms, I always forget it's right there. I really want to go back to the Golden Ox sometime soon.

I had the brunch burger off the special menu but will try the breakfast sandwich next time I go - probably would have gotten it had I note been ripped on coffee and feeling risky. Draught selection was pretty good. Speaking of, do they have a guy there that crinkles the menus after they print and spills maple syrup on them?That's a great corner right there though, location is top notch.
:lol: I loved that. It is a little overpriced for what you get. I can understand your hesitance with it. Ms. Wackysquawk isn't really a fan either, but goes cause I pick up the tab. I just think it's pretty unique and convenient for my location on the weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2014, 05:30:50 PM
bar louie does have a happy hour that is cray cray adorbs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
How does one sign up for the mafia tours?

Are those real?  I've only seen that fox 4 news story while being pak'd in the back of a cab...kind of thought they were only a dream.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 06:26:35 PM
Hey clams/wacky, need some help here.

GF just moved down to Rivermarket area and I need some good insidery tips about cool places/things to do down there. I'll list everything I know and you guyz can tell me what I don't know.

-Farmers Market in summer, duh
-Had some drinks at harry's CC one time after work, was pretty neat.
- always heard good things about caddyshack pizza but I got it the night she moved in and it was "meh"
-Had breakfast at city diner, "meh"

Alright guyz, take it away.

First insider'y tip is don't be scared on the MAX.  Until the streetcar gets built it's a great way to get from RM to other downtown neighborhoods like Crossroads and get the full benefit of downtown living.

River Market proper?  Market 3 for quick grocery/food things, Minskys, Farmhouse as mentioned.  Happy Gillis and paldolfi's in Columbus Park just to the east are both great.  Bridge over the river to get down to river front park is good once it gets warmer.    The wine store owned by Kennison is great stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 06:27:33 PM
Thanks guyz! I love me some gyro's so I will try that place out and give Farmhouse a shot for breakfast.

Zaina is better IMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 14, 2014, 06:29:27 PM
i'd love to go to the Farmhouse when i'm not violently hungover sometime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
i'd love to go to the Farmhouse when i'm not violently hungover sometime

Try Affäre for brunch....pretty delish.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 06:44:30 PM
Of all the restaurant week places in the city, I haven't been to the following, which should I hit?

(new) Corner Restaurant, Osteria IL Centro*, Providence, Room 39, Westport Cafe & Bar.
*Probably be my choice, not sure how I haven't been here

Lot of great ones on the list...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
Why you gotta come in here and still my thunder phil? I've been doing work these last 6 months in the market.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 14, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
pretty sure the gyro place in rm is called habashi house. it's great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
Why you gotta come in here and still my thunder phil? I've been doing work these last 6 months in the market.  :gocho:

RM is your neighborhood...I'm in Quality Hill/Garment District.  I'm just a downtown lifer/dork and your hood rocks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 08:19:20 PM
Thanks guyz! I love me some gyro's so I will try that place out and give Farmhouse a shot for breakfast.

Zaina is better IMO.

Ya but we were talking about RM
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 08:43:59 PM
Why you gotta come in here and still my thunder phil? I've been doing work these last 6 months in the market.  :gocho:

RM is your neighborhood...I'm in Quality Hill/Garment District.  I'm just a downtown lifer/dork and your hood rocks.
Ms. wackysquawk lives in quality hill. Right next to the quaff on the first floor. :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Thanks guyz! I love me some gyro's so I will try that place out and give Farmhouse a shot for breakfast.

Zaina is better IMO.

Ya but we were talking about RM

It's like .5 mile though!!!  Easy walk....streetcar will def make the downtown neighborhoods feel more connected.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 09:17:05 PM
Why you gotta come in here and still my thunder phil? I've been doing work these last 6 months in the market.  :gocho:

RM is your neighborhood...I'm in Quality Hill/Garment District.  I'm just a downtown lifer/dork and your hood rocks.
Ms. wackysquawk lives in quality hill. Right next to the quaff on the first floor. :surprised:

I used to live in that building.  Great location.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
I'm excited to start exploring river market  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 09:19:01 PM
I'm excited to start exploring river market  :D
Me too! All my friends from college live out south and they never visit. I need some more buds down here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 09:23:45 PM
I'm excited to start exploring river market  :D
Me too! All my friends from college live out south and they never visit. I need some more buds down here.

They will regret that in the future...I spent one year in Lenexa after coming back from Manhattan and I still regret it.  Where do they hang out down there, Saints?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
I'm excited to start exploring river market  :D
Me too! All my friends from college live out south and they never visit. I need some more buds down here.

They will regret that in the future...I spent one year in Lenexa after coming back from Manhattan and I still regret it.  Where do they hang out down there, Saints?
They annoy me, for the simple fact my bff use to live down here and I always hung out out with him down here on the weekends. They live at 135th and 119th st. They all work at farmers so it makes sense. We go to barleys and talk of the town down there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 14, 2014, 09:46:08 PM
I'm excited to start exploring river market  :D
Me too! All my friends from college live out south and they never visit. I need some more buds down here.

They will regret that in the future...I spent one year in Lenexa after coming back from Manhattan and I still regret it.  Where do they hang out down there, Saints?
They annoy me, for the simple fact my bff use to live down here and I always hung out out with him down here on the weekends. They live at 135th and 119th st. They all work at farmers so it makes sense. We go to barleys and talk of the town down there.

i mean, to each his/her own, but i don't get why a single post grad would want to live anywhere outside of between river market and 85th
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2014, 09:48:52 PM
I think he likes being close to his gf who has huge bazongas, but I totally agree 'blast. He moved down there before he met her tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2014, 09:51:07 PM
I'm excited to start exploring river market  :D
Me too! All my friends from college live out south and they never visit. I need some more buds down here.

They will regret that in the future...I spent one year in Lenexa after coming back from Manhattan and I still regret it.  Where do they hang out down there, Saints?
They annoy me, for the simple fact my bff use to live down here and I always hung out out with him down here on the weekends. They live at 135th and 119th st. They all work at farmers so it makes sense. We go to barleys and talk of the town down there.

i mean, to each his/her own, but i don't get why a single post grad would want to live anywhere outside of between river market and 85th

I don't understand why you'd go south of ward parkway. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2014, 09:52:25 PM
I'm excited to start exploring river market  :D
Me too! All my friends from college live out south and they never visit. I need some more buds down here.

They will regret that in the future...I spent one year in Lenexa after coming back from Manhattan and I still regret it.  Where do they hang out down there, Saints?
They annoy me, for the simple fact my bff use to live down here and I always hung out out with him down here on the weekends. They live at 135th and 119th st. They all work at farmers so it makes sense. We go to barleys and talk of the town down there.

i mean, to each his/her own, but i don't get why a single post grad would want to live anywhere outside of between river market and 85th

I don't understand why you'd go south of ward parkway.

As long as you are north of Troost you're good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 14, 2014, 09:52:56 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2014, 09:53:50 PM
Ward parkway is east west next to the plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 14, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Ward parkway is east west next to the plaza

i know. there's good neighborhoods south of it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2014, 09:56:02 PM
Ward parkway is east west next to the plaza

i know. there's good neighborhoods south of it.

for octogenarians
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 14, 2014, 09:56:56 PM
Ward parkway is east west next to the plaza

i know. there's good neighborhoods south of it.

for octogenarians

no way, man
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2014, 09:57:52 PM
I mean, to each their own
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2014, 10:01:13 PM
If you live East of 67th street you might as well not even live in the city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
Ward Parkway is east west at like 93rd. That's too far south michigancat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2014, 10:28:14 PM
I've been downtown for 12 years now after 4 years on the plaza....toyed around with Brookside this fall....couldn't pull the trigger, felt like I'd be too far away from the "stuff" and really pissed at not walking to work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 15, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdKI6WS7ghE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdKI6WS7ghE)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 15, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
"alright, team, weve got this super rough ridin' tall waterslide to build somewhere in the united states. were gonna need some pretty stupid people nearby who will pay money to go down this thing, though. where should we build?"

"uhh... Kansas, probably?"

"nice. I like that idea. where in Kansas?"

"oh umm... theres a NASCAR track in Kansas City. how about like, right next to that?"

"rough ridin' perfect."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 15, 2014, 12:51:44 PM
NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE, NOPE! HELL NO!  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 15, 2014, 01:10:59 PM
"alright, team, weve got this super rough ridin' tall waterslide to build somewhere in the united states. were gonna need some pretty stupid people nearby who will pay money to go down this thing, though. where should we build?"

"uhh... Kansas, probably?"

"nice. I like that idea. where in Kansas?"

"oh umm... theres a NASCAR track in Kansas City. how about like, right next to that?"

"rough ridin' perfect."

"Wait boss, there is also a Great Wolf Lodge and a Cabelas there!"

"Make the slide 30 feet taller"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 15, 2014, 05:13:17 PM
Can't wait to see the waddlers try and climb those stairs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 15, 2014, 07:05:58 PM
the slide is awesome and people who say otherwise are stupid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 15, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
the slide is awesome and people who say otherwise are stupid.
No one is saying it isn't. I'm just not a russian roulette kinda guy, OK?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 16, 2014, 02:29:52 PM
i looked at most of the restaurant week menus, and La Bodega, Cafe Trio, and The Drop jumped out at me the most. might do Trio tomorrow night
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2014, 05:42:16 PM
i looked at most of the restaurant week menus, and La Bodega, Cafe Trio, and The Drop jumped out at me the most. might do Trio tomorrow night

I'm getting overwhelmed trying to look at menus for restaurant week...so far doing Chaz and Pierponts....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 17, 2014, 09:21:14 AM
Plaza III tonight with some bros
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 17, 2014, 09:22:29 AM
Affare tomoorrow night before the GS concert.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 09:22:37 AM
Plaza III tonight with some bros

did you post this just to hurt my feelings?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 17, 2014, 09:23:48 AM
Plaza III tonight with some bros

did you post this just to hurt my feelings?

kind of.  :cheers: after though?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 09:26:59 AM
Plaza III tonight with some bros

did you post this just to hurt my feelings?

kind of.  :cheers: after though?

I could be convinced
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2014, 09:27:50 AM
see you kats at the falloon after p3
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 17, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
see you kats at the falloon after p3
LET'S DO THIS!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2014, 09:29:15 AM
see you kats at the falloon after p3
LET'S DO THIS!

see you there too!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 17, 2014, 09:38:45 AM
see you kats at the falloon after p3
LET'S DO THIS!

see you there too!

oh man  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 17, 2014, 09:39:47 AM
Plaza III tonight with some bros

do i order the Filet Mignon or Prime Rib?

i cannot decide. i love love PR but rarely ever eat FM.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
get them both!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 17, 2014, 09:56:44 AM
get them both!

 :surprised:

THREE COURSE DINNER MENU $33
Choose One Starter, One Entree, and One Dessert

Starter
Plaza III Steak Soup

Plaza III Garden Salad


Entree
Filet Mignon
With roasted red potatoes and fresh asparagus

Prime Rib
With roasted red potatoes and fresh asparagus

Salmon
With roasted red potatoes and fresh asparagus


Dessert
Chocolate Truffle Cake

Key Lime Pie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on January 17, 2014, 11:19:42 AM
Plaza III tonight with some bros

do i order the Filet Mignon or Prime Rib?

i cannot decide. i love love PR but rarely ever eat FM.
you can easily make you self FM at home, not so much with PR
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 17, 2014, 11:45:41 AM
Plaza III tonight with some bros

Nice....surf and turf?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 12:24:25 PM
Plaza III tonight with some bros

Nice....surf and turf?

it's restaurant week so it's surf OR turf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 17, 2014, 12:26:09 PM
Plaza III tonight with some bros

Nice....surf and turf?

it's restaurant week so it's surf OR turf

but they are both so good....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2014, 12:37:58 PM
gonna be a great post p3 PAK tonight boys, I can literally  feel it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 12:41:07 PM
gonna be a great post p3 PAK tonight boys, I can literally  feel it

clams what are your thoughts on carpooling?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 17, 2014, 12:42:58 PM
gonna be a great post p3 PAK tonight boys, I can literally  feel it

Hmmm, let me guess...Falloon? (DUH)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 12:45:35 PM
gonna be a great post p3 PAK tonight boys, I can literally  feel it

Hmmm, let me guess...Falloon? (DUH)

really awesome guess ben psychicji

see you kats at the falloon after p3
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 17, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
gonna be a great post p3 PAK tonight boys, I can literally  feel it

Hmmm, let me guess...Falloon? (DUH)

really awesome guess ben psychicji

see you kats at the falloon after p3

(http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121113003758/masseffect/images/d/dc/Come_at_me_bro.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 12:51:54 PM
maybe ill come at you with a picture book since you clearly cant read  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 17, 2014, 12:53:27 PM
Why you little....

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/023/4/6/why_you_little_____by_williamfreeman-d4nfscj.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 01:32:39 PM
meshak thinks you're all pussies

Quote
?@MeshakWilliams
“@CutItOutYo: Anybody else down to ride this water slide? pic.twitter.com/0JxvaZ6Zuz” I will
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 22, 2014, 08:13:19 AM
Probably gonna be milling around the Plaza area this evening.  Is there anything going on tonight or tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 22, 2014, 08:22:16 AM
Probably gonna be milling around the Plaza area this evening.  Is there anything going on tonight or tomorrow night?

Walk into the Granfalloon, look for the anorexic sasquatch at the bar, walk up and introduce yourself to pissclams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on January 22, 2014, 08:40:46 AM
Probably gonna be milling around the Plaza area this evening.  Is there anything going on tonight or tomorrow night?
Gram & Dun was pretty full last night. 
G&D Salad
Pork Porterhouse
Hull & Oats Cake
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 22, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
jeez. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 22, 2014, 08:49:19 AM
Probably gonna be milling around the Plaza area this evening.  Is there anything going on tonight or tomorrow night?

Walk into the Granfalloon, look for the anorexic sasquatch at the bar, walk up and introduce yourself to pissclams.

seems hurtful. maybe bring ole clamsy a beer because hes a nice guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 22, 2014, 08:57:44 AM
Probably gonna be milling around the Plaza area this evening.  Is there anything going on tonight or tomorrow night?

Walk into the Granfalloon, look for the anorexic sasquatch at the bar, walk up and introduce yourself to pissclams.

Will he be the one who is the farthest away from a salt shaker?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 22, 2014, 09:03:25 AM
Probably gonna be milling around the Plaza area this evening.  Is there anything going on tonight or tomorrow night?

Walk into the Granfalloon, look for the anorexic sasquatch at the bar, walk up and introduce yourself to pissclams.

'clams isn't either of these things
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 22, 2014, 09:28:12 AM
Probably gonna be milling around the Plaza area this evening.  Is there anything going on tonight or tomorrow night?

Walk into the Granfalloon, look for the anorexic sasquatch at the bar, walk up and introduce yourself to pissclams.

'clams isn't either of these things

Potatoe/Potato
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 22, 2014, 01:07:46 PM
Probably gonna be milling around the Plaza area this evening.  Is there anything going on tonight or tomorrow night?

Walk into the Granfalloon, look for the anorexic sasquatch at the bar, walk up and introduce yourself to pissclams.

'clams isn't either of these things

Potatoe/Potato

go to hell you rough ridin' downgrade
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 22, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
Tighten up, KC cats! #1cat (Good grief, you guys!)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 22, 2014, 01:29:18 PM
So is clams gonna be at the Falloon tonight or not? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 22, 2014, 01:46:17 PM
RIP #1cat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 22, 2014, 02:01:54 PM
RIP #1cat

not really.  maybe you don't get the concept.  #1Cat is for cats.  downgrades need not apply. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 22, 2014, 08:53:34 PM
PeanutPAK in full swing.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 22, 2014, 09:19:19 PM
noPAK for clams tonight
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on January 22, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
PeanutPAK in full swing.

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which one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 22, 2014, 09:29:48 PM
Down by the plaza

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 22, 2014, 11:06:39 PM
FALLOONPAK engage

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Willesgirl on January 23, 2014, 09:10:09 AM
Story. in Prairie Village for restaurant week last weekend. The lentil soup was not my thing, but I'll be dreaming of those pork cheeks for awhile.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 23, 2014, 09:14:15 AM
Story. in Prairie Village for restaurant week last weekend. The lentil soup was not my thing, but I'll be dreaming of those pork cheeks for awhile.

crap's good right?  one of the best restaurants in kc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 06, 2014, 04:38:21 PM
 :love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kh-W1NcYnQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kh-W1NcYnQ)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
i saw jim cantore!    !
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 27, 2014, 03:13:09 PM
Yikes!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 27, 2014, 03:14:27 PM
that thing is going to be absolutely crawling with Nebraskans
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 27, 2014, 03:28:40 PM
that thing is going to be absolutely crawling with Nebraskans

There will be a ton of Iowans who will go but turn around and leave when they see it in person
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 27, 2014, 03:54:28 PM
that thing is going to be absolutely crawling with Nebraskans

Kansas really needs to build a water park in Nebraska.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2014, 04:53:16 PM
that thing is going to be absolutely crawling with Nebraskans

i rode it today, was great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2014, 01:35:05 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/05/4867217/westport-ale-house-opens-friday.html  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2014, 01:59:45 PM
anyone know anything about Grinders in JOCO?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2014, 02:29:59 PM
anyone know anything about Grinders in JOCO?

his license to do shows wasn't approved iirc, but it's going over there by the old stonewall pizza in lenexa
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2014, 06:19:54 PM
anyone know anything about Grinders in JOCO?

they put something just last month on twitter saying they were moving forward. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2014, 06:20:24 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/05/4867217/westport-ale-house-opens-friday.html  :emawkid:

Yeah that place sounded pretty excellent...could have used it downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 01:23:21 AM
http://www.slideshare.net/ReconciliationServices/brief-history-of-troost-avenue

kind of interesting.  it's really really mindbending to think that whole area was once a plantation.  it seems like cities have just "existed" forever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2014, 08:17:12 AM
http://www.slideshare.net/ReconciliationServices/brief-history-of-troost-avenue

kind of interesting.  it's really really mindbending to think that whole area was once a plantation.  it seems like cities have just "existed" forever

i could look at old photos of streets for about all day
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on April 10, 2014, 08:19:14 AM
hope none of you get sniped on your way to work this week!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2014, 08:41:40 AM
hope none of you get sniped on your way to work this week!

Missouri side.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2014, 08:42:44 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on April 10, 2014, 08:44:52 AM
New Strouds going in on 135th and Antioch'ish  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2014, 08:45:34 AM
New Strouds going in on 135th and Antioch'ish  :Wha:

what is that, rough ridin' oklahoma?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on April 10, 2014, 08:52:58 AM
New Strouds going in on 135th and Antioch'ish  :Wha:

what is that, rough ridin' oklahoma?

the Golden Ghetto, blood  :eye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 08:55:42 AM
This should probably go in the shame thread, but i've never been to strouds and still don't have any interest to do so.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 10, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
Only time I've been to Strouds was when they had one in MHK  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
i used to go to stroud's when it was under troost on 85th st, haven't been since it left :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on April 10, 2014, 09:29:52 AM
Only time I've been to Strouds was when they had one in MHK  :horrorsurprise:

that's the only one I've been to. it was grizzoooos.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2014, 09:30:22 AM
I regularly forget what Stroud's even is (never been).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 10, 2014, 10:54:33 AM
+1 for never having been in Strouds  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 10, 2014, 10:59:31 AM
Is this where I talk about Go Chicken Go, because I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since ERiI and I had it with Paul a few weekends ago. That sauce  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 10, 2014, 11:11:41 AM
nomnomnom

(http://www.originaljuan.com/images/products/large/Go%20Chicken%20Go%20G-Sauce_F02900005_LG.JPG)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on April 10, 2014, 02:13:45 PM
nomnomnom

(http://www.originaljuan.com/images/products/large/Go%20Chicken%20Go%20G-Sauce_F02900005_LG.JPG)
I would very much like to procure a bottle of that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2014, 02:14:50 PM
They sell six-packs of it online. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2014, 02:16:47 PM
What is it like?  I love Tobasco and Sriracha and hate Franks.  Is it like any of those?  Better, worse, a whole new thing that I just have to try!?  tia
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 10, 2014, 02:19:37 PM
What is it like?  I love Tobasco and Sriracha and hate Franks.  Is it like any of those?  Better, worse, a whole new thing that I just have to try!?  tia

It's basically a salsa/hot sauce combo that you can put on almost anything. Has a little bit of a kick but not overly spicy. It really takes breakfast to the next level.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2014, 02:20:09 PM
 :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 10, 2014, 02:22:41 PM
What is it like?  I love Tobasco and Sriracha and hate Franks.  Is it like any of those?  Better, worse, a whole new thing that I just have to try!?  tia

It's basically a salsa/hot sauce combo that you can put on almost anything. Has a little bit of a kick but not overly spicy. It really takes breakfast to the next level.

delicious flavor to heat ratio.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 10, 2014, 02:28:18 PM
I would very much like to procure a bottle of that.

Next time I'm in KC I'm coming home with no less than 5 bottles. I'll have 1 for you at FF if that's the next time you're in town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 10, 2014, 02:38:55 PM
I would very much like to procure a bottle of that.

Next time I'm in KC I'm coming home with no less than 5 bottles. I'll have 1 for you at FF if that's the next time you're in town.

i will pay you for one if you bring it to ff. also el pollo rey you guys. get your kc chickens there.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 10, 2014, 02:41:04 PM
I would very much like to procure a bottle of that.

Next time I'm in KC I'm coming home with no less than 5 bottles. I'll have 1 for you at FF if that's the next time you're in town.

i will pay you for one if you bring it to ff. also el pollo rey you guys. get your kc chickens there.  :love:

I'll be there for a wedding on 5/3. How many bottles am I grabbing for gE people?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2014, 02:42:35 PM
Hayseeds.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on April 10, 2014, 02:55:55 PM
I would very much like to procure a bottle of that.

Next time I'm in KC I'm coming home with no less than 5 bottles. I'll have 1 for you at FF if that's the next time you're in town.
Spring Game?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 10, 2014, 02:58:06 PM
I would very much like to procure a bottle of that.

Next time I'm in KC I'm coming home with no less than 5 bottles. I'll have 1 for you at FF if that's the next time you're in town.
Spring Game?

That's possible. I might go to KC for a concert this saturday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2014, 05:21:47 PM
hope none of you get sniped on your way to work this week!

Missouri side.

2 were right on the border with on in KS  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2014, 05:22:25 PM
nomnomnom

(http://www.originaljuan.com/images/products/large/Go%20Chicken%20Go%20G-Sauce_F02900005_LG.JPG)

 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 05:27:50 PM
hope none of you get sniped on your way to work this week!

Missouri side.

2 were right on the border with on in KS  :surprised:
I use to work around that area with UOP. Yikes!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on April 10, 2014, 05:50:20 PM
Hey guys... Stroud's is pretty good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2014, 06:10:38 PM
hope none of you get sniped on your way to work this week!

Missouri side.

2 were right on the border with on in KS  :surprised:

Almost Kansas!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 10, 2014, 06:17:05 PM
Monkey escapes  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2014, 06:34:34 PM
hope none of you get sniped on your way to work this week!

Missouri side.

2 were right on the border with on in KS  :surprised:

Almost Kansas!

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Leawood was one of them :|
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2014, 06:35:24 PM
hope none of you get sniped on your way to work this week!

Missouri side.

2 were right on the border with on in KS  :surprised:

Almost Kansas!

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Leawood was one of them :|

crap!  Statistical outlier?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2014, 06:38:37 PM
Spracne on May 30, 2014
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on April 10, 2014, 06:42:53 PM
Spracne on May 30, 2014

warm up the sports talk radio, mother rough rider
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2014, 06:46:37 PM
Spracne on May 30, 2014

Connecting at DFW?  Post in the travel thread. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2014, 06:50:47 PM

Spracne on May 30, 2014

Connecting at DFW?  Post in the travel thread.

I'm not gonna travel thread DFW. Will have a doosie on May 21 tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2014, 06:51:04 PM
STAY TUNED
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on April 10, 2014, 07:57:03 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/11/a7yse5yn.jpg)
This thread inspired my dinner...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
How was it? What did you order?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2014, 08:20:35 PM
How was it? What did you order?

Answer remains strouded in mystery.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on April 10, 2014, 08:27:50 PM
hope none of you get sniped on your way to work this week!

I know one of the past victims. Fully recovered!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 08:35:38 PM
The whole sniper thing reminded me of my Eudora days growing up in HS. Our houses backyard faced K-10 (highway that leads to Lawrence, 5 miles out) and in the summer, when my parents were gone, I'd drive golf balls over/into the highway. I figured they were all squawks, but man, now that I think about it, I was a bad person. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 10, 2014, 09:48:15 PM
The whole sniper thing reminded me of my Eudora days growing up in HS. Our houses backyard faced K-10 (highway that leads to Lawrence, 5 miles out) and in the summer, when my parents were gone, I'd drive golf balls over/into the highway. I figured they were all squawks, but man, now that I think about it, I was a bad person. :frown:

you have posted about 1000 things that suggest you still are a bad person.  but b/c you're delusional you don't realize it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 09:52:25 PM
Carnes, you've been lurking this thread since I posted this and this is the best you've got an hour and half later? Woof!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 10, 2014, 10:24:48 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/11/a7yse5yn.jpg)
This thread inspired my dinner...
They have one in Wichita, fwiw.  Strouds is great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 10, 2014, 10:25:25 PM
in fact, im going to go there for lunch tomorrow, just because of this great thread.  Thanks guys  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
Seriously tho! Oklahoma joes has the z-man. What do they have? The fried chicken special? Just curious. :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 10, 2014, 10:33:24 PM
When you're good, you don't need silly handles for your food.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2014, 10:47:29 PM
When you're good, you don't need silly handles for your food.
I was just looking for future advice. Is strouds good enough to take Sundays off? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 10, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
When you're good, you don't need silly handles for your food.
I was just looking for future advice. Is strouds good enough to take Sundays off? :dunno:
Its good any day of the week, i'd probably recommend the Chicken Fried Steak to anyone on their first visit, but any actual fried chicken (including strips, if thats your thing, best there is) will be greatly satisfying.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 10, 2014, 10:53:27 PM
I have never been to strouds, but go chicken go is the ripe tits
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2014, 11:01:09 PM
I have never been to strouds, but go chicken go is the ripe tits

It's no babes chicken amirite?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chunkles on April 10, 2014, 11:06:06 PM
Strouds is greesy.  But it is walking distance from my house.  But So is ok joes.  I bet my parents will let me walk to either place -> they let me walk to quiktrip like everydays now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2014, 02:20:46 AM
Hey mocat, thanks for appreciating history since these other downgrades ('clams :D) would rather talk about stupid boned food, JFC (jesus rough ridin' christ  :facepalm:)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on April 11, 2014, 09:09:04 AM
How was it? What did you order?
Big delay, Puppy is eating into the bbsin time.  Standard fried chicken dinner.  Split it with Lady BR. 
Comes with one breast, one leg, one thigh, and one wing then salad, taters n gravy, cinn rolls, and green beans.  Enough food to fill us both up with ease.  Honestly it is all really good but my favorites are the cinn rolls and the green beans. 
Best way to do it is just call ahead (40 min till its ready!) and get takeout unless you go midweek.  It takes a while for them to cook it  when you eat there and most of the time you are going to have to wait for a table.  Plus its way easier to split a meal and not look like white hogs when you take it home.
Chicken fried steak is probably my favorite thing they make but we compromised for the fried chicken.  Which is still the best i've ever had.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on April 11, 2014, 09:09:58 AM
How was it? What did you order?
Big delay, Puppy is eating into the bbsin time.  Standard fried chicken dinner.  Split it with Lady BR. 
Comes with one breast, one leg, one thigh, and one wing then salad, taters n gravy, cinn rolls, and green beans.  Enough food to fill us both up with ease.  Honestly it is all really good but my favorites are the cinn rolls and the green beans. 
Best way to do it is just call ahead (40 min till its ready!) and get takeout unless you go midweek.  It takes a while for them to cook it  when you eat there and most of the time you are going to have to wait for a table.  Plus its way easier to split a meal and not look like white hogs when you take it home.
Chicken fried steak is probably my favorite thing they make but we compromised for the fried chicken.  Which is still the best i've ever had.
And this review is for the northland one(probably closest to you Wacky) never been to the one down south.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 11, 2014, 10:13:33 AM
Hey mocat, thanks for appreciating history since these other downgrades ('clams :D) would rather talk about stupid boned food, JFC (jesus rough ridin' christ  :facepalm:)

a twofer would be if we could just sit down and look at old timey photos of the original stroud's with the uneven floor and the old piano and all the old timey cars that parked on the dirt parking lot to get some of that pan fried chicken in pre-WWII americana  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 07, 2014, 02:50:46 PM
i have eaten at Q39 twice already. I had a chipotle sausage + burnt ends sandwich. good grief it's really good. great beer selection as well. they have some tallgrasses on tap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 07, 2014, 03:37:18 PM
i have eaten at Q39 twice already. I had a chipotle sausage + burnt ends sandwich. good grief it's really good. great beer selection as well. they have some tallgrasses on tap.

Tried it a few weeks ago. Was very good. Need a second trip to try the sausage. Love the chipotle cilantro sauce.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2014, 04:36:27 PM
i have eaten at Q39 twice already. I had a chipotle sausage + burnt ends sandwich. good grief it's really good. great beer selection as well. they have some tallgrasses on tap.

i got the judge's plate w/ brisket, pulled pork, chicken, fries, and beans.  very good.  jon russell bbq opened up down by d'bronx, very good as well, great ribs, pulled pork, and burnt ends. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 07, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
i have eaten at Q39 twice already. I had a chipotle sausage + burnt ends sandwich. good grief it's really good. great beer selection as well. they have some tallgrasses on tap.

i got the judge's plate w/ brisket, pulled pork, chicken, fries, and beans.  very good.  jon russell bbq opened up down by d'bronx, very good as well, great ribs, pulled pork, and burnt ends.

yes i was about to bring that place up too. what a collection of sauces they have at jon russell!  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on May 07, 2014, 04:49:21 PM
i have eaten at Q39 twice already. I had a chipotle sausage + burnt ends sandwich. good grief it's really good. great beer selection as well. they have some tallgrasses on tap.

i got the judge's plate w/ brisket, pulled pork, chicken, fries, and beans.  very good.  jon russell bbq opened up down by d'bronx, very good as well, great ribs, pulled pork, and burnt ends.

I heard the judge's plate is both gluten free and award winning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2014, 05:48:21 PM
had i known it was gluten free, i would have never ordered it.#teamgluts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 07, 2014, 05:54:15 PM
had i known it was gluten free, i would have never ordered it.#teamgluts

Why does the fact that some people physically can't eat certain foods without risking pain and permanent damage to their digestive tracts cause you to avoid foods that those people can safely eat even if you enjoy those foods? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
Anybody tried Pezzettino yet in Crossroads?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 07, 2014, 09:50:43 PM
Has anyone been to RJ's Bob-B-Que in Mission? somewhat close to the new penthouse. Saw it on DDD, am wondering if it is worth the drive or if TTHOTUC and I should just have our chef make something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 07, 2014, 11:41:45 PM
 
Anybody tried Pezzettino yet in Crossroads?
No, but I drive by it every Wednesday and Thursday. :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 08, 2014, 12:35:40 AM
Jon Russels corned beef special on Sundays is quite spectacular

At my previous job we bottled their sauce (and did gallon bags for the food service). Fun times
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on May 08, 2014, 12:52:09 AM
Has anyone been to RJ's Bob-B-Que in Mission? somewhat close to the new penthouse. Saw it on DDD, am wondering if it is worth the drive or if TTHOTUC and I should just have our chef make something.

yeah, it's not too bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 08, 2014, 07:02:57 AM
Has anyone been to RJ's Bob-B-Que in Mission? somewhat close to the new penthouse. Saw it on DDD, am wondering if it is worth the drive or if TTHOTUC and I should just have our chef make something.

I lived within walking distance for a year. Not great, very average BBQ. Decent weekend brunch though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 08, 2014, 08:02:44 AM
Has anyone been to RJ's Bob-B-Que in Mission? somewhat close to the new penthouse. Saw it on DDD, am wondering if it is worth the drive or if TTHOTUC and I should just have our chef make something.

IMO it's definitely worth a visit. I am a fan of their hot bbq sauce.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on May 08, 2014, 08:26:11 AM
I like RJ's - Sunday morning breakfast is legit. Good wings too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2014, 08:42:23 AM
I have a personal hate for RJ's. It's not cause it's bad, service or anything else. It's cause my brother who lives in Louisiana will only try places that are on DDD. He doesn't trust any mainstream places like ok joes, gates, jack stack, etc. It annoys me. "Hey, FanMan, I saw the brick on DDD, let's go there, looks cool." Welp, it's another crap hole, what did you expect, dumbass? :curse:

Anyways, it's pretty goos 'meister, give it a world. Also, some cool dive bars in that area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 08:44:35 AM
I have a personal hate for RJ's. It's not cause it's bad, service or anything else. It's cause my brother who lives in Louisiana will only try places that are on DDD. He doesn't trust any mainstream places like ok joes, gates, jack stack, etc. It annoys me. "Hey, FanMan, I saw the brick on DDD, let's go there, looks cool." Welp, it's another crap hole, what did you expect, dumbass? :curse:

Anyways, it's pretty goos 'meister, give it a world. Also, some cool dive bars in that area.

Poor guy doesn't realize Flavortown is just a state of mind  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2014, 08:45:36 AM
I know.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 08, 2014, 08:48:00 AM
I have a personal hate for RJ's. It's not cause it's bad, service or anything else. It's cause my brother who lives in Louisiana will only try places that are on DDD. He doesn't trust any mainstream places like ok joes, gates, jack stack, etc. It annoys me. "Hey, FanMan, I saw the brick on DDD, let's go there, looks cool." Welp, it's another crap hole, what did you expect, dumbass? :curse:

Anyways, it's pretty goos 'meister, give it a world. Also, some cool dive bars in that area.

 :D
I love reading Fanning's posts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2014, 08:49:29 AM
Whoops.  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on May 08, 2014, 09:00:05 AM
of course it was featured on the TV show, so you won't think its cool, but the lamb ribs at RJs are great and different

def worth a try. its a squawk place tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 08, 2014, 09:01:13 AM
http://www.livekc.org/ (http://www.livekc.org/)

kansas cityeo?

kansas city-o?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2014, 09:04:42 AM
oh god shut that thing down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
of course it was featured on the TV show, so you won't think its cool, but the lamb ribs at RJs are great and different

def worth a try. its a squawk place tho.
Yeah. It's definitely good. Just haunts me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on May 08, 2014, 10:06:48 AM
I will vouch for RJ's breakfast/brunch as well. Good stuff.

While we're on the topic of Mission, Sully's just down Johnson Drive is a surprisingly fun place to hang out if you live in the area and are just looking for a low-key night. Shuffleboard, darts, foosball, and lots of folks in their 20's and 30's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2014, 10:10:31 AM
I will vouch for RJ's breakfast/brunch as well. Good stuff.

While we're on the topic of Mission, Sully's just down Johnson Drive is a surprisingly fun place to hang out if you live in the area and are just looking for a low-key night. Shuffleboard, darts, foosball, and lots of folks in their 20's and 30's.
Yes. Can confirm.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2014, 10:18:28 AM
fanning has so much personal hate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2014, 10:25:38 AM
fanning has so much personal hate
Not really.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 08, 2014, 11:41:40 AM
i want to end anyone's throat that uses the term Millennials
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 11:43:36 AM
i want to end anyone's throat that uses the term Millennials

Y?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 08, 2014, 11:53:04 AM
your genes are rough ridin' disgusting.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 08, 2014, 04:56:25 PM
Clams hates the word 'millenial' because it excludes old folks like him :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2014, 04:57:06 PM
the same people that say "millenial" say "goes viral" with a straight face
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 08, 2014, 05:04:57 PM
im with clams here. were just called young people who like to party. clams is 1/2 of those things. good enough for me!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 08, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
Anybody tried Pezzettino yet in Crossroads?

huge meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: signature move on May 08, 2014, 06:14:39 PM
had i known it was gluten free, i would have never ordered it.#teamgluts

Why does the fact that some people physically can't eat certain foods without risking pain and permanent damage to their digestive tracts cause you to avoid foods that those people can safely eat even if you enjoy those foods? :dunno:

because that crap doesn't happen, unless you are 0.7% of the population. it's a stupid rough ridin' fad, and the quicker it's over, the quicker permanent damage to my digestive tract will stop in having to listen to these whiny fucks talk about the disease they really don't have.

making an allergy trendy? it's happening right here in america, and i, for one, will not stand for it.  :nono:  :don'tcare: <--- don'tcare? more like gtfoomf with your bullshit malady, i says

anyways, when's the waterslide of doom open?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 06:24:09 PM
had i known it was gluten free, i would have never ordered it.#teamgluts

Why does the fact that some people physically can't eat certain foods without risking pain and permanent damage to their digestive tracts cause you to avoid foods that those people can safely eat even if you enjoy those foods? :dunno:

because that crap doesn't happen, unless you are 0.7% of the population. it's a stupid rough ridin' fad, and the quicker it's over, the quicker permanent damage to my digestive tract will stop in having to listen to these whiny fucks talk about the disease they really don't have.

making an allergy trendy? it's happening right here in america, and i, for one, will not stand for it.  :nono:  :don'tcare: <--- don'tcare? more like gtfoomf with your bullshit malady, i says

anyways, when's the waterslide of doom open?

I volunteer time at the Austin Celiac Center, and attitudes like this need to stop.  Are there a lot of people who adopt a gluten-free diet for non-medical reasons?  Sure there are.  That fad, though, has a very positive externality for those who have been diagnosed with Celiac, because it leads to more gluten-conscious restaurants.  It wasn't long ago that a Celiac (Celies, for short) had very few choices when it came to dining out.  You may think it's fun to be smug about it, but know that a large number of those who you are blank-insulting really have no say in the matter.  It's a very humiliating thing to be taunted for following the ONLY treatment available for your medical condition.  Believe me, Celies don't like it when non-celies evangelize a gluten-free diet based on pseudo-science, because they know ignorant folks will needlessly cast aspersions in their direction for it. 

Disclaimer:  I do not have Celiac Disease and I do eat gluten.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 08, 2014, 06:56:49 PM
had i known it was gluten free, i would have never ordered it.#teamgluts

Why does the fact that some people physically can't eat certain foods without risking pain and permanent damage to their digestive tracts cause you to avoid foods that those people can safely eat even if you enjoy those foods? :dunno:

because that crap doesn't happen, unless you are 0.7% of the population. it's a stupid rough ridin' fad, and the quicker it's over, the quicker permanent damage to my digestive tract will stop in having to listen to these whiny fucks talk about the disease they really don't have.

making an allergy trendy? it's happening right here in america, and i, for one, will not stand for it.  :nono:  :don'tcare: <--- don'tcare? more like gtfoomf with your bullshit malady, i says

anyways, when's the waterslide of doom open?

I volunteer time at the Austin Celiac Center, and attitudes like this need to stop.  Are there a lot of people who adopt a gluten-free diet for non-medical reasons?  Sure there are.  That fad, though, has a very positive externality for those who have been diagnosed with Celiac, because it leads to more gluten-conscious restaurants.  It wasn't long ago that a Celiac (Celies, for short) had very few choices when it came to dining out.  You may think it's fun to be smug about it, but know that a large number of those who you are blank-insulting really have no say in the matter.  It's a very humiliating thing to be taunted for following the ONLY treatment available for your medical condition.  Believe me, Celies don't like it when non-celies evangelize a gluten-free diet based on pseudo-science, because they know ignorant folks will needlessly cast aspersions in their direction for it. 

Disclaimer:  I do not have Celiac Disease and I do eat gluten.
a canadian co-worker at a restaurant i worked at in college loved to spit in the gluten-free orders. it was hilarious then and has only gotten better with time. eff the diets of non-red-blooded americans/europeans.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
You're right, that is pretty hilarious and doesn't reflect poorly on you and your friend at all. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 08, 2014, 07:03:59 PM
You're right, that is pretty hilarious and doesn't reflect poorly on you and your friend at all. 
stop enabling celies. you're ruining our cultural diet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 07:07:34 PM
You're right, that is pretty hilarious and doesn't reflect poorly on you and your friend at all. 
stop enabling celies. you're ruining our cultural diet.

 :Take the Bait:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 08, 2014, 07:09:11 PM
You're right, that is pretty hilarious and doesn't reflect poorly on you and your friend at all. 
stop enabling celies. you're ruining our cultural diet.

 :Take the Bait:
i would never stand by and watch someone spit in food.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 07:13:43 PM
You spat too, didn't you?  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 08, 2014, 07:37:19 PM
You spat too, didn't you?  :horrorsurprise:
nope. i wouldn't even spit in the food of someone who made a lot of puns and those people are my most hated enemies.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on May 08, 2014, 08:40:09 PM
when bubbles says mean stuff it makes me sad, because bubbles is a sweet innocent manchild.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 08, 2014, 08:46:10 PM
when bubbles says mean stuff it makes me sad, because bubbles is a sweet innocent manchild.
now i'm sad for making you sad. i'll try to be less of a sourpuss about wordplay.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on May 08, 2014, 08:47:34 PM
hug?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 08, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
(http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/498865/498865,1285583870,1/stock-vector-hugging-emoticons-61786924.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 08:56:14 PM
I like bubbles.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 08, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
Guyz, RJBBQ Shack has the best breakfast in KC.

Get the farmhand platter, its like 8 bucks and includes
    A. 2 Meats (I usually go with the Smoked Bacon :love: and the Jalepeno Sausage  :lick:)
    B. 2 Eggs
    C. Hash Browns (Amazing with their spicy BBQ sauce)
    D. Biscuits and Gravy (Sometimes I sub this out for toast)
    E. Fresh Cinnamon Roll as an App.

The only downside is that their coffee is below average  :frown:
   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 09:25:41 PM
Guyz, RJBBQ Shack has the best breakfast in KC.

Get the farmhand platter, its like 8 bucks and includes
    A. 2 Meats (I usually go with the Smoked Bacon :love: and the Jalepeno Sausage  :lick:)
    B. 2 Eggs
    C. Hash Browns (Amazing with their spicy BBQ sauce)
    D. Biscuits and Gravy (Sometimes I sub this out for toast)
    E. Fresh Cinnamon Roll as an App.

The only downside is that their coffee is below average  :frown:
   

All of this...can be had for 8 dollaros?  Frickin' shazbot!  :curse: Baller Breakfast on a Budget.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 08, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
Guyz, RJBBQ Shack has the best breakfast in KC.

Get the farmhand platter, its like 8 bucks and includes
    A. 2 Meats (I usually go with the Smoked Bacon :love: and the Jalepeno Sausage  :lick:)
    B. 2 Eggs
    C. Hash Browns (Amazing with their spicy BBQ sauce)
    D. Biscuits and Gravy (Sometimes I sub this out for toast)
    E. Fresh Cinnamon Roll as an App.

The only downside is that their coffee is below average  :frown:
   

All of this...can be had for 8 dollaros?  Frickin' shazbot!  :curse: Baller Breakfast on a Budget.

Its fo real....and they dont skimp on the serving sizes.....4 LARGE PIECES of smoked bacon and an ENTIRE LINK of Jalapeno Sausage.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2014, 09:31:36 PM
YARD DOG, GET IN HERE.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Bloodfart on May 08, 2014, 09:52:05 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 08, 2014, 10:22:41 PM
Guyz, RJBBQ Shack has the best breakfast in KC.

Get the farmhand platter, its like 8 bucks and includes
    A. 2 Meats (I usually go with the Smoked Bacon :love: and the Jalepeno Sausage  :lick:)
    B. 2 Eggs
    C. Hash Browns (Amazing with their spicy BBQ sauce)
    D. Biscuits and Gravy (Sometimes I sub this out for toast)
    E. Fresh Cinnamon Roll as an App.

The only downside is that their coffee is below average  :frown:
   

All of this...can be had for 8 dollaros?  Frickin' shazbot!  :curse: Baller Breakfast on a Budget.

Its fo real....and they dont skimp on the serving sizes.....4 LARGE PIECES of smoked bacon and an ENTIRE LINK of Jalapeno Sausage.

Sounds like we're gonna have a breakfast pak soon!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 08, 2014, 10:28:16 PM
Guyz, RJBBQ Shack has the best breakfast in KC.

Get the farmhand platter, its like 8 bucks and includes
    A. 2 Meats (I usually go with the Smoked Bacon :love: and the Jalepeno Sausage  :lick:)
    B. 2 Eggs
    C. Hash Browns (Amazing with their spicy BBQ sauce)
    D. Biscuits and Gravy (Sometimes I sub this out for toast)
    E. Fresh Cinnamon Roll as an App.

The only downside is that their coffee is below average  :frown:
   

All of this...can be had for 8 dollaros?  Frickin' shazbot!  :curse: Baller Breakfast on a Budget.

Its fo real....and they dont skimp on the serving sizes.....4 LARGE PIECES of smoked bacon and an ENTIRE LINK of Jalapeno Sausage.

Sounds like we're gonna have a breakfast pak soon!

Invite me to your penthouse warming party. Let's do this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 08, 2014, 10:44:22 PM
Anybody tried Pezzettino yet in Crossroads?

huge meh

seriously?  Eff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 09, 2014, 09:12:12 AM
Jumpin' Catfish.  What in the actual eff?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on May 09, 2014, 02:07:49 PM

Jumpin' Catfish.  What in the actual eff?
Only one I knew of has been closed for over a year. I-35 and Antioch in the northland. Guess they used to have some relatively exotic meats for a chain; like pheasant gator duck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 09, 2014, 02:18:44 PM

Jumpin' Catfish.  What in the actual eff?
Only one I knew of has been closed for over a year. I-35 and Antioch in the northland. Guess they used to have some relatively exotic meats for a chain; like pheasant gator duck
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3568844288/h41E1DB70/)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
Uber finally launched in KC!  Sign up with KCFREE for free rides. PM me if you want a free 10 bucks for signing up too.... Or get steve Dave's code. Whateves
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on May 09, 2014, 03:48:21 PM
I was born in Kansas City, Missouri and lived there a good portion of my life. Thank you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2014, 03:49:35 PM
Uber finally launched in KC!  Sign up with KCFREE for free rides. PM me if you want a free 10 bucks for signing up too.... Or get steve Dave's code. Whateves

Evidently, the state has already said they will bust ppl using this because they aren't set up as an actual biz that is acceptable to the state or city or something.  Paid half attention to some blurb on the news a few weeks ago.  Basically, the drivers will get some sort of fine if caught.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2014, 03:51:30 PM
That was more a lyft problem, think uber worked it out with city ordinances before launching. That's the impression I got from Slys latest tweets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Uber finally launched in KC!  Sign up with KCFREE for free rides. PM me if you want a free 10 bucks for signing up too.... Or get steve Dave's code. Whateves

Evidently, the state has already said they will bust ppl using this because they aren't set up as an actual biz that is acceptable to the state or city or something.  Paid half attention to some blurb on the news a few weeks ago.  Basically, the drivers will get some sort of fine if caught.
Saw a 3 cops downtown pull over one of the drivers in that church parking lot. I wondered what was going on. They must have told him to knock it off. Him and his pink mustache car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2014, 03:53:38 PM
That was more a lyft problem, think uber worked it out with city ordinances before launching. That's the impression I got from Slys latest tweets.
So apparently what I saw was lyft driver pulled over.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 10, 2014, 01:56:26 PM
there's this thing called Cinetopia opening in overland park

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10268653_659665104068600_5471471472515151705_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10308222_658663714168739_8433418471823006906_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10313605_658293020872475_1301870206694749097_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on May 10, 2014, 01:57:57 PM

there's this thing called Cinetopia opening in overland park

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10268653_659665104068600_5471471472515151705_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10308222_658663714168739_8433418471823006906_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10313605_658293020872475_1301870206694749097_n.jpg)
Got some bros working on that place. Sounds sweet
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 10, 2014, 01:58:49 PM
o/u 7 days until someone has sex in one of those things
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 10, 2014, 02:40:44 PM
Dancefestopia, Cinetopia. What will KC -topia next?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2014, 02:42:33 PM
Dancefestopia, Cinetopia. What will KC -topia next?

U?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 10, 2014, 02:43:00 PM
Dancefestopia, Cinetopia. What will KC -topia next?

U?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2014, 04:33:10 PM
Dancefestopia, Cinetopia. What will KC -topia next?

U?

already there bro  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 11, 2014, 09:26:26 AM
o/u 7 days until fanning or emawblast has sex in one of those things

Fyp
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 11, 2014, 09:33:43 PM
The Lenexa Art Festival was pretty fun.  The Free State guys were giving beer away. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 12, 2014, 10:43:54 AM
i got an Uber ride on saturday night
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 12:26:12 PM
what kind of car?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on May 12, 2014, 12:27:09 PM
I bet clams has a $250 monthly Uber bill  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 12, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
what kind of car?

not sure, was pak'd. it was really nice and clean though!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 12, 2014, 12:32:23 PM
Guyz, RJBBQ Shack has the best breakfast in KC.

Get the farmhand platter, its like 8 bucks and includes
    A. 2 Meats (I usually go with the Smoked Bacon :love: and the Jalepeno Sausage  :lick:)
    B. 2 Eggs
    C. Hash Browns (Amazing with their spicy BBQ sauce)
    D. Biscuits and Gravy (Sometimes I sub this out for toast)
    E. Fresh Cinnamon Roll as an App.

The only downside is that their coffee is below average  :frown:
   

All of this...can be had for 8 dollaros?  Frickin' shazbot!  :curse: Baller Breakfast on a Budget.

Its fo real....and they dont skimp on the serving sizes.....4 LARGE PIECES of smoked bacon and an ENTIRE LINK of Jalapeno Sausage.

I think you've confused quantity with quality, my friend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 12:42:10 PM
I bet clams has a $250 monthly Uber bill  :love:

not yet, they just started in kc last week!  i did give sly james *mayor* a thumbs up on not rough ridin' with them though when i saw him at hotel sorella on friday night  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 12:44:30 PM
what kind of car?

not sure, was pak'd. it was really nice and clean though!

i use uberSUV in LA, they're escalades.  it's great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 12, 2014, 03:02:15 PM
anyone been to the i-70 drive in theater? never been to a drive in before and a girl wants to go but i don't know why we'd go there over a normal movie theater. pro tips, i guess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2014, 03:07:10 PM
anyone been to the i-70 drive in theater? never been to a drive in before and a girl wants to go but i don't know why we'd go there over a normal movie theater. pro tips, i guess.

She wants to make out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 12, 2014, 03:07:59 PM
anyone been to the i-70 drive in theater? never been to a drive in before and a girl wants to go but i don't know why we'd go there over a normal movie theater. pro tips, i guess.

She wants to make out

well, i want to watch the movie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 12, 2014, 03:09:48 PM
i rode in a Maroon Nissan Altima uber saturday night. also was very pak'd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hatingfrancisco on May 12, 2014, 03:09:57 PM
anyone been to the i-70 drive in theater? never been to a drive in before and a girl wants to go but i don't know why we'd go there over a normal movie theater. pro tips, i guess.

She wants to make out

well, i want to watch the movie

 :jerk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2014, 05:19:24 PM
what kind of car?

Mine on Saturday night was a RAV4...probably the most beat up UberX vehicle I had been in (of only 5 I've been in).  Driver was fine, didn't take the best route but it was free so I didn't care.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 12, 2014, 05:22:40 PM
anyone been to the i-70 drive in theater? never been to a drive in before and a girl wants to go but i don't know why we'd go there over a normal movie theater. pro tips, i guess.

Drive ins are fun as crap. Just lighten up and try something new for eff's sake. Of course if you're already whining about it you probably won't be able to enjoy yourself so Merriam Cinemark it is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 12, 2014, 05:31:59 PM
anyone been to the i-70 drive in theater? never been to a drive in before and a girl wants to go but i don't know why we'd go there over a normal movie theater. pro tips, i guess.

Drive ins are fun as crap. Just lighten up and try something new for eff's sake. Of course if you're already whining about it you probably won't be able to enjoy yourself so Merriam Cinemark it is.

but what if they have a vegetarian snack bar?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on May 12, 2014, 06:05:25 PM
anyone been to the i-70 drive in theater? never been to a drive in before and a girl wants to go but i don't know why we'd go there over a normal movie theater. pro tips, i guess.

Drive ins are fun as crap. Just lighten up and try something new for eff's sake. Of course if you're already whining about it you probably won't be able to enjoy yourself so Merriam Cinemark it is.

but what if they have a vegetarian snack bar?

I haven't been to I-70, but the Boulevard Drive In is great fun. And it's $10 for a double feature.

But, yeah, sounds like it might not be for you if you can't think of stuffing some Jack Links in your glove box.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 07:19:47 PM
what kind of car?

Mine on Saturday night was a RAV4...probably the most beat up UberX vehicle I had been in (of only 5 I've been in).  Driver was fine, didn't take the best route but it was free so I didn't care.

i heard about a free credit deal going around, how'd you get it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on May 12, 2014, 07:23:13 PM
The lowest I'll go is black.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 12, 2014, 07:27:14 PM
anyone been to the i-70 drive in theater? never been to a drive in before and a girl wants to go but i don't know why we'd go there over a normal movie theater. pro tips, i guess.

Drive ins are fun as crap. Just lighten up and try something new for eff's sake. Of course if you're already whining about it you probably won't be able to enjoy yourself so Merriam Cinemark it is.

yeah. i had fun the two times i've been. lawn chairs, blankets and a cooler of beer while sitting outside watching a movie. pretty great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 12, 2014, 07:27:31 PM
What are you guys tipping on these free rides?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on May 12, 2014, 08:27:56 PM
Go to the double feature drive in. Hopefully you've got a truck cause then you watch one movie and pak then :fatty: the other
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: OK_Cat on May 12, 2014, 10:07:53 PM
Drive ins are a blast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 12, 2014, 10:24:07 PM
Drive-ins were better as a JungeSonntag, and my standards for video quality weren't so high.   Now it looks like i'm trying to watch my neighbor's flatscreen  2 houses down, through a shower curtain.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2014, 11:10:24 PM
what kind of car?

Mine on Saturday night was a RAV4...probably the most beat up UberX vehicle I had been in (of only 5 I've been in).  Driver was fine, didn't take the best route but it was free so I didn't care.

i heard about a free credit deal going around, how'd you get it?

Promo code KCFREE. Goes until the 23rd I think. Up to 10 rides of 30 bucks each.

WC, still don't tip, uber is paying the drivers their normal rates still I believe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 13, 2014, 05:33:25 PM
!!!
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/13/5021447/border-brewing-co-opening-in-the.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2014, 05:37:37 PM
The beer lab was pretty cool. That's what dad got for his bday. To make his own brew there. We bottled it on Saturday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 13, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
!!!
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/13/5021447/border-brewing-co-opening-in-the.html

Will support.

What about the fireman cat's brewery who posts here?  Open?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2014, 08:34:11 PM
!!!
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/13/5021447/border-brewing-co-opening-in-the.html

Will support.

What about the fireman cat's brewery who posts here?  Open?

 http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3557.msg1101774.msg#1101774  (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3557.msg1101774.msg#1101774)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Matt Siebrant's Left Hand on May 14, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
!!!
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/13/5021447/border-brewing-co-opening-in-the.html

Will support.

What about the fireman cat's brewery who posts here?  Open?

 http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3557.msg1101774.msg#1101774  (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3557.msg1101774.msg#1101774)
Will go. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 14, 2014, 11:29:30 AM
So here is the list of current or upcoming breweries in KC:

Boulevard
Cinderblock
KCBier
Border Brewing (Cats alum)
Torn Label
Double Shift Brewing (KCFDCat)
Big Rip Brewing Co

Any others I am missing?  I'm not counting restaurants that brew their own beer (KC Hopps organization type stuff).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2014, 11:30:58 AM
i still have not been to Bier Station. they don't brew any of their own do they?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 14, 2014, 11:32:10 AM
So here is the list of current or upcoming breweries in KC:

Boulevard
Cinderblock
KCBier
Border Brewing (Cats alum)
Torn Label
Double Shift Brewing (KCFDCat)
Big Rip Brewing Co

Any others I am missing?  I'm not counting restaurants that brew their own beer (KC Hopps organization type stuff).

Can you add a list tho for those restaurants?  Am interested.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 14, 2014, 11:42:47 AM
So here is the list of current or upcoming breweries in KC:

Boulevard
Cinderblock
KCBier
Border Brewing (Cats alum)
Torn Label
Double Shift Brewing (KCFDCat)
Big Rip Brewing Co

Any others I am missing?  I'm not counting restaurants that brew their own beer (KC Hopps organization type stuff).

Can you add a list tho for those restaurants?  Am interested.

KC Hopps Organization (75th Street/Blue Moose/The Alley/Barleys/O'Dowds)
Gordon Biersch (nationwide chain)
McCoy's
Granite City (nationwide chain)


I'm sure I missed a few...


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 14, 2014, 11:44:49 AM
i still have not been to Bier Station. they don't brew any of their own do they?

I have not been there, but their webpage does not make me think they do. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 14, 2014, 12:43:08 PM
Trim and I may need an EMAW hero to do some investigative work at a bar in Waldo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 14, 2014, 12:58:09 PM
What are you guys tipping on these free rides?

there's no tipping
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 14, 2014, 12:58:33 PM
What are you guys tipping on these free rides?

there's no tipping

oh and the rides aren't free
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 14, 2014, 12:58:41 PM
Trim and I may need an EMAW hero to do some investigative work at a bar in Waldo.

go on...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2014, 01:36:31 PM
i still have not been to Bier Station. they don't brew any of their own do they?
no but they talked about allowing patrons to bring in their own batches and putting them on tap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 14, 2014, 09:53:21 PM
What are you guys tipping on these free rides?

there's no tipping

oh and the rides aren't free

With KCFREE code your first 10 are free
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2014, 01:05:05 PM
is there a more kansas city thing than this?

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/15/5025263/sporting-kc-boulevard-team-up.html#tnt_refhome (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/15/5025263/sporting-kc-boulevard-team-up.html#tnt_refhome)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 15, 2014, 01:12:26 PM
is there a more kansas city thing than this?

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/15/5025263/sporting-kc-boulevard-team-up.html#tnt_refhome (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/15/5025263/sporting-kc-boulevard-team-up.html#tnt_refhome)

royals and chiefs take note, if you ever decide to win anything at all we will celebrate the crap out of it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 15, 2014, 01:15:13 PM
So that's what A. Rod is up to these days...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 16, 2014, 08:16:36 AM
is there a more kansas city thing than this?

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/15/5025263/sporting-kc-boulevard-team-up.html#tnt_refhome (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/15/5025263/sporting-kc-boulevard-team-up.html#tnt_refhome)

I feel the need to rebel against Sporting scarf wearing, Boulevard loving, Church of Lazlo listening milennials most of the time, but I'll check this out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 16, 2014, 08:37:41 AM
i want to end anyone's throat that uses the term Millennials

Y?

Just want to call some attention to this little zenger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2014, 09:18:07 AM
i want to end anyone's throat that uses the term Millennials

Y?

Just want to call some attention to this little zenger.

Meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2014, 02:03:19 AM
car broken into. battery and checkbook stolen.

 :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 17, 2014, 08:49:09 AM
they stole your car battery?  is that a thing?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2014, 08:56:37 AM
car broken into. battery and checkbook stolen.

 :bang:
:frown: Where were you?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2014, 09:02:08 AM
they stole your car battery?  is that a thing?

i guess so. not sure if i had ever heard of it happening before.

:frown: Where were you?

north westport area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 17, 2014, 09:03:28 AM
t's and p's 'blast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 17, 2014, 09:11:39 AM
I lived in Hyde park where there were regular car break-ins and I kind of expected it to happen at some point and when it finally did I was so pissed and felt like a helpless victim.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 17, 2014, 09:15:19 AM
I lived in Hyde park where there were regular car break-ins and I kind of expected it to happen at some point and when it finally did I was so pissed and felt like a helpless victim.

You poor thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 17, 2014, 09:17:20 AM
Thanks, kim.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2014, 09:22:53 AM
I lived in Hyde park where there were regular car break-ins and I kind of expected it to happen at some point and when it finally did I was so pissed and felt like a helpless victim.

i am certainly pissed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 17, 2014, 09:29:41 AM
Your car battery? That's just cold-blooded.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2014, 09:44:34 AM
is it too soon to ask why you still have a checkbook? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2014, 10:19:01 AM
Cars are really becoming not worth the hassle. Can we move BSFS closer on a bus route so I can dump mine? Ts and Ps Blast.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2014, 10:21:15 AM
is it too soon to ask why you still have a checkbook?

i write checks on very rare occasions
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2014, 10:24:12 AM
is it too soon to ask why you still have a checkbook?

i write checks on very rare occasions

Had someone break into my car in Manhattan and take my checkbook. Never carried one again. This is your chance!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2014, 10:26:01 AM
is it too soon to ask why you still have a checkbook?

i write checks on very rare occasions

Had someone break into my car in Manhattan and take my checkbook. Never carried one again. This is your chance!

are there really no occasions you come across where a check is necessary? like paying old people (parents) that dont' have paypal relatively large sums of money or anything like that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2014, 11:09:57 AM
Online bill pay sends them a check or bring one check for them. Never ran into situation that I had to immediately pay someone I wasn't aware of.

Not judging, just my experience. I assume you called the bank and told them the check numbers taken?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 17, 2014, 11:42:42 AM
Sometimes you really need checks.   But you should never leave them in a car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2014, 11:49:01 AM
(http://cdn2.sportngin.com/attachments/photo/1545/4426/junk-in-trunk-smaller_Page_1_medium.jpg)

* Includes car batteries I guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
once they're in the car can't the just pop the trunk?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2014, 12:29:29 PM
I use checks to pay rent. I also leave them in my car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 17, 2014, 12:42:36 PM
I've never had a landlord that didn't require rent payments to be in check form.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
I've never had a landlord that didn't require rent payments to be in check form.


Place I lived in lawrence let me do it online, but my landlords here are both near 80.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 17, 2014, 01:32:13 PM
is it too soon to ask why you still have a checkbook?

i write checks on very rare occasions
When buying car batteries?   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 17, 2014, 04:13:54 PM
I've never had a landlord that didn't require rent payments to be in check form.

Really? That's basically the exact opposite of my personal experience. 

I haven't carried checks since high school. On the rare occasion I need to issue a check, I just do it online through my bank.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2014, 11:35:10 PM
is it too soon to ask why you still have a checkbook?

i write checks on very rare occasions
When buying car batteries?

 :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
once they're in the car can't the just pop the trunk?

99.999% of the time they need to see something in your car to make breaking the window worth their time...walking around downtown it's insane how much crap people leave laying out in the open.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 01, 2014, 10:24:38 PM
Rockfest

http://mingle.kansascity.com/photos/2014/rockfest-shooting-the-line-2014/#slide-4 (http://mingle.kansascity.com/photos/2014/rockfest-shooting-the-line-2014/#slide-4)

(http://media.kansascity.com/static/django-media/kc_contact/uploaded/2014/rockfest-shooting-the-line-2014/dsc_4937.jpg.400x600_q85.jpg)

(http://media.kansascity.com/static/django-media/kc_contact/uploaded/2014/rockfest-shooting-the-line-2014/dsc_4917.jpg.400x600_q85.jpg)

(http://media.kansascity.com/static/django-media/kc_contact/uploaded/2014/rockfest-shooting-the-line-2014/dsc_4932.jpg.400x600_q85.jpg)

(http://media.kansascity.com/static/django-media/kc_contact/uploaded/2014/rockfest-shooting-the-line-2014/dsc_4982.jpg.400x600_q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 01, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
Rockfest brings out the worst in KC

http://loudwire.com/staind-aaron-lewis-profanity-laced-tirade-concertgoers/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top (http://loudwire.com/staind-aaron-lewis-profanity-laced-tirade-concertgoers/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 02, 2014, 12:02:51 AM
Rockfest brings out the worst in KC

http://loudwire.com/staind-aaron-lewis-profanity-laced-tirade-concertgoers/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top (http://loudwire.com/staind-aaron-lewis-profanity-laced-tirade-concertgoers/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top)

I absolutely love Staind and this makes me adore them even more, pieces of crap like that should get their dicks kicked in, then cut off.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on June 02, 2014, 01:24:09 AM
Rockfest brings out the worst in KC

http://loudwire.com/staind-aaron-lewis-profanity-laced-tirade-concertgoers/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top (http://loudwire.com/staind-aaron-lewis-profanity-laced-tirade-concertgoers/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top)
WTF is a 15 year old girl doing crowdsurfing anyway? Pretty sure it's impossible to crowdsurf and not get molested. You're being held up in the air by hundreds of hands all of your body.  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2014, 06:23:10 AM
There is no better people watching event that I am aware of than rockfest
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 02, 2014, 08:06:45 AM
There is no better people watching event that I am aware of than rockfest

Central Missouri Juggalo Festival?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 02, 2014, 09:51:58 AM
man, what a fun place to be
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 02, 2014, 09:55:37 AM
There is no better people watching event that I am aware of than rockfest

My wife's cousin had a thirty day countdown to Rockfest.

I felt bad because that's the biggest day of the year for him.  But he's from Ottawa, so, yeah, I get it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 02, 2014, 10:03:25 AM
my cousin tells a good story about him encouraging his bro to enter the moshpit and his bro walking back out with a compound fracture of his collar bone. they were 17 and that was their last KANSROCKSAS/ROCKFEST.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2014, 10:06:10 AM
i went a couple years ago to watch trivium and then i left during Slash's set. on my way out i saw two 30's-ish age women flashing a 12-ish year old boy while his mom laughed and cheered. i mean i crap you not, i saw that happen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 02, 2014, 08:57:09 PM
Rockfest brings out the worst in KC

http://loudwire.com/staind-aaron-lewis-profanity-laced-tirade-concertgoers/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top (http://loudwire.com/staind-aaron-lewis-profanity-laced-tirade-concertgoers/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top)

this should go to the "topeka things" or "Sedalia things" thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 02, 2014, 09:06:33 PM
Jazzoo on Friday!!!  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 06, 2014, 10:38:16 AM

You guys this is TONIGHT!

Jazzoo on Friday!!!  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2014, 03:59:52 PM
We're cooler than Vegas and LA!

http://www.ranker.com/list/america_s-coolest-cities/places-to-go?var=2&utm_expid=16418821-20.FwtYim2BSFyrsIaL9BzLlw.1&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bizjournals.com%2Fkansascity%2Fblog%2F2014%2F06%2Fkansas-city-top-20-cool-american-cities.html%3Futm_content%3Dbufferf63eb%26utm_medium%3Dsocial%26utm_source%3Dtwitter.com%26utm_campaign%3Dbuffer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on June 13, 2014, 04:02:58 PM
We're cooler than Vegas and LA!

http://www.ranker.com/list/america_s-coolest-cities/places-to-go?var=2&utm_expid=16418821-20.FwtYim2BSFyrsIaL9BzLlw.1&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bizjournals.com%2Fkansascity%2Fblog%2F2014%2F06%2Fkansas-city-top-20-cool-american-cities.html%3Futm_content%3Dbufferf63eb%26utm_medium%3Dsocial%26utm_source%3Dtwitter.com%26utm_campaign%3Dbuffer

Above Minneapolis... hmmmm.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 13, 2014, 04:42:37 PM
We're cooler than Vegas and LA!

http://www.ranker.com/list/america_s-coolest-cities/places-to-go?var=2&utm_expid=16418821-20.FwtYim2BSFyrsIaL9BzLlw.1&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bizjournals.com%2Fkansascity%2Fblog%2F2014%2F06%2Fkansas-city-top-20-cool-american-cities.html%3Futm_content%3Dbufferf63eb%26utm_medium%3Dsocial%26utm_source%3Dtwitter.com%26utm_campaign%3Dbuffer

Ranked #1 in the list of underrated cities.

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 13, 2014, 08:07:54 PM
Guys I have been Zillowing my brains out and it's just insane to me how much house you can get in KC for the money. 'Grats. Way jealous.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SabiNation on June 14, 2014, 10:15:05 PM
Boulevardia was fun
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 15, 2014, 12:11:26 AM
Boulevardia was fun

I'm sorry but I'm missing the appeal. You buy a ticket so you can stand around and have access to buy beer in the west bottoms?

Oh wow! I've had beer but never standing next to this abandoned warehouse! Oh some shitty local band with 0 good songs is playing? AWESOME THIS IS SO COOL! Can I buy some overpriced pretentious food truck food? I CAN? WOW! LET ME INSTAGRAM THIS TO PROVE HOW CULTURED I AM!!!
 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 15, 2014, 12:20:07 AM
Oh wait, you're telling me boulevardia had a ferris wheel? Oh man. I love paying like, $7 to go 9 miles an hour in a boring ass circle. HEY I CAN SEE KEMPER ARENA FROM UP HERE!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 15, 2014, 12:23:12 AM
Boulevardia was fun

I'm sorry but I'm missing the appeal. You buy a ticket so you can stand around and have access to buy beer in the west bottoms?

Oh wow! I've had beer but never standing next to this abandoned warehouse! Oh some shitty local band with 0 good songs is playing? AWESOME THIS IS SO COOL! Can I buy some overpriced pretentious food truck food? I CAN? WOW! LET ME INSTAGRAM THIS TO PROVE HOW CULTURED I AM!!!

This post is exactly how I pictured boulevardia
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 15, 2014, 12:24:23 AM
Buy a ticket to Boulevardia! When you get inside, you can stand around in urban blight and buy an overpriced Boulevard Wheat! Oh man! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on June 15, 2014, 07:37:47 AM
cf3 is spot on again. i only drank tank 7 and pale ale. there were supposed to be special tappings every 2 hours at one beer tent BUT the kegs were so small that they ran out in like 3 minutes every time. j-dub was pretty :curse: when he got to the front of the line for a barrel aged ale at EXACTLY 3 p.m. for the special tapping of said barrel aged ale from 3-5 and THEY WERE ALREADY OUT OF IT  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2014, 10:30:06 AM
I heard it sucked too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
Yeah, Blvd needs to get over themselves
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 15, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
I'm gonna sound like a douche, but all of the Boulevardia action I saw on Facebook was from guys I knew back in high school that I really don't like anyway.

I caught myself saying, "Yeah, he'd go to that," a lot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2014, 11:12:46 AM
I'm gonna sound like a douche, but all of the Boulevardia action I saw on Facebook was from guys I knew back in high school that I really don't like anyway.

I caught myself saying, "Yeah, he'd go to that," a lot.

They deserve all the crap they get for charging admission to an event where they sell beer.  Only attraction was the same tired bands that have playing the Record bar for 10 years, I'm looking at you Gnarly Hand
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 15, 2014, 12:19:54 PM
i'm waiting for phil titola to come in here and go off on everyone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SabiNation on June 15, 2014, 12:51:52 PM
All of the complaints are spot on. Way overpriced, mediocre bands, all of it.

All I was saying was that I had fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on June 15, 2014, 12:52:54 PM
All of the complaints are spot on. Way overpriced, mediocre bands, all of it.

All I was saying was that I had fun.

yeah, i did too. in spite of it all  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 15, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
sounds like a crappier river fest
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2014, 02:32:34 PM
sounds like a crappier river fest

Replace juggalos with hipsters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on June 15, 2014, 02:43:04 PM
sounds like a crappier river fest

Replace juggalos with hipsters

oh can co. man.... hipster paradise out there i tell ya what. at least i'm now aware of what is currently "in"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on June 15, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
sounds like a crappier river fest

Replace juggalos with hipsters

oh can co. man.... hipster paradise out there i tell ya what. at least i'm now aware of what is currently "in"

Beards, for instance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on June 15, 2014, 02:54:46 PM
sounds like a crappier river fest

Replace juggalos with hipsters

oh can co. man.... hipster paradise out there i tell ya what. at least i'm now aware of what is currently "in"

Beards, for instance.

i've had one for years  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on June 15, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
sounds like a crappier river fest

Replace juggalos with hipsters

oh can co. man.... hipster paradise out there i tell ya what. at least i'm now aware of what is currently "in"

Beards, for instance.

i've had one for years  :love:

 ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Benja on June 15, 2014, 03:04:44 PM
It was fun if you went with cool people. The fact that people were so excited about it shows we need more cool crap to do in KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on June 15, 2014, 03:35:52 PM
I was interested until I saw the band list. 

Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on June 15, 2014, 04:05:53 PM
Went to the top of the Liberty Memorial yesterday.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqIB2nKCIAA0DMG.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2014, 04:30:40 PM
That's my view everyday at the Kickball fields. :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Muldoon on June 15, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
Went to the top of the Liberty Memorial yesterday.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqIB2nKCIAA0DMG.jpg)
One of the best war museums in the country.  That view! :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 15, 2014, 05:11:12 PM
i'm waiting for phil titola to come in here and go off on everyone

Didn't go. Seemed dumb. Hate live music.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on June 15, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Went to the top of the Liberty Memorial yesterday.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqIB2nKCIAA0DMG.jpg)

Proud of you havs. That's where I took j-dub's idiot ex to slow dance to Sinatra and profess my *then undying love
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 15, 2014, 07:13:34 PM
i had a great time at boulevardia. i love all the "stand around and drink in a shitty urban area" complaints  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 15, 2014, 07:26:30 PM
It was fun if you went with cool people. The fact that people were so excited about it shows we need more cool crap to do in KC.


Cool crap coming out of our ears....first year excitement for a Blvd backed event promising a ton of cool beers...doesn't sound like it delivered even on that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 15, 2014, 07:45:04 PM
huge surprise that low integrity mocat is bought and paid for by big boulevards deep coffers...

NOT!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 15, 2014, 08:55:28 PM
It was fun if you went with cool people. The fact that people were so excited about it shows we need more cool crap to do in KC.


Cool crap coming out of our ears....first year excitement for a Blvd backed event promising a ton of cool beers...doesn't sound like it delivered even on that.

Whoa, back it down man
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 16, 2014, 08:28:02 AM
Soccer watch party at P&L today!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 16, 2014, 08:52:39 AM
cf3 is spot on again. i only drank tank 7 and pale ale. there were supposed to be special tappings every 2 hours at one beer tent BUT the kegs were so small that they ran out in like 3 minutes every time. j-dub was pretty :curse: when he got to the front of the line for a barrel aged ale at EXACTLY 3 p.m. for the special tapping of said barrel aged ale from 3-5 and THEY WERE ALREADY OUT OF IT  :curse:

We were in the same line apparently.

I thought it was mischaracterized completely.    My impression was aside from the special tappings we'd be able to sample other non-Boulevard beers.    I can order a Boulevard product anytime, dipshits.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 16, 2014, 08:59:27 AM
We were in the same line apparently.

he was the one with the beard! :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 16, 2014, 09:02:40 AM
We were in the same line apparently.

he was the one with the beard! :love:

you'd have to be more specific.   It was Beardevardia out there.   Watched the bacon eating contest.    My lord....second place was some skinny chick (though I think she gotten robbed).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on June 18, 2014, 06:50:30 PM
Anywhere in KC have pork buns?  Just snarfed some in ippudo westside NY. Amazing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2014, 09:06:10 PM
Anywhere in KC have pork buns?  Just snarfed some in ippudo westside NY. Amazing
Bo Lings during dim sum, Pos on 39th I think has them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 18, 2014, 09:10:50 PM
I thought the ones at Bo lings were barf city USA #epicfail #FTL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 18, 2014, 09:12:02 PM
#mulligan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
I thought the ones at Bo lings were barf city USA #epicfail #FTL

Good to know.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 18, 2014, 09:34:54 PM

I thought the ones at Bo lings were barf city USA #epicfail #FTL

Good to know.
well hey listen here fella I'm no PB aficionado - they might be great!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2014, 09:39:05 PM

I thought the ones at Bo lings were barf city USA #epicfail #FTL

Good to know.
well hey listen here fella I'm no PB aficionado - they might be great!

One up on me...I'm a PB virgin.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on June 18, 2014, 09:50:58 PM

I thought the ones at Bo lings were barf city USA #epicfail #FTL

Good to know.
well hey listen here fella I'm no PB aficionado - they might be great!

I think Bo Lings Dim Sum is very overrated.  Almost everything tastes like pond fish.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 18, 2014, 10:29:00 PM
Bo lings is overpriced. Anyone who spends too much $ on Chinese food is a dumbass. It's Chinese food for Christ sakes! Hy vee even knows how to do it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 10:31:54 PM
i don't know who overrates bo ling's dim sum but every time i've been there they bring out a bunch of garbage and then when you're full they finally bring out the delicious dumplings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2014, 10:33:46 PM
Paying a little extra for chinese food is never a bad idea. If it's cheap, it's because they use dogshit quality ingredients
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 18, 2014, 10:35:07 PM
Bo lings is overpriced. Anyone who spends too much $ on Chinese food is a dumbass. It's Chinese food for Christ sakes! Hy bee even knows how to do it.

Best Chinese I've had in KC is China Wok off of Barry Rd. Next to St. Luke's North. 

It's one of the few things I will miss after moving from the Northland.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on June 18, 2014, 10:35:37 PM
Bo lings is overpriced. Anyone who spends too much $ on Chinese food is a dumbass. It's Chinese food for Christ sakes! Hy bee even knows how to do it.
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 18, 2014, 10:40:05 PM
Bo lings is overpriced. Anyone who spends too much $ on Chinese food is a dumbass. It's Chinese food for Christ sakes! Hy bee even knows how to do it.
:facepalm:
Oh I'm sorry, do you thing pf changs is the crap? If you want good valued Chinese food go to pho good, dorks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2014, 10:40:15 PM
Bo Lings is worth the extra money :kstategrad:  That trash place that delivers downtown from NKC serves dog/cat/horse/etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 18, 2014, 10:41:13 PM
Bo lings is overpriced. Anyone who spends too much $ on Chinese food is a dumbass. It's Chinese food for Christ sakes! Hy bee even knows how to do it.

Best Chinese I've had in KC is China Wok off of Barry Rd. Next to St. Luke's North. 

It's one of the few things I will miss after moving from the Northland.
Had an ex up there that I use to stay with. Loved that place!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
Bo lings is overpriced. Anyone who spends too much $ on Chinese food is a dumbass. It's Chinese food for Christ sakes! Hy bee even knows how to do it.
:facepalm:
Oh I'm sorry, do you thing pf changs is the crap? If you want good valued Chinese food go to pho good, dorks!

Vietnamese
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 18, 2014, 10:42:32 PM
:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 10:42:40 PM
if we're 'nam'ing i'm going to pho hoa
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2014, 10:43:45 PM
Fanning is opcatting this thread  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 18, 2014, 10:48:51 PM
I meant po dumplings. Ms. Wacky is drunk and I didn't want to Google. Chinese restaurants really come down to me on how good their crab ragoons and orange chicken are. Everything else can take a hike!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 10:50:15 PM
wacky that is next level chinese eating right there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 18, 2014, 10:52:13 PM
wacky that is next level chinese eating right there
Thx bro!  :thumbs: :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
did you listen to Toxic yet? that is a great song (not gE'ing)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on June 18, 2014, 10:58:28 PM
I meant po dumplings. Ms. Wacky is drunk and I didn't want to Google. Chinese restaurants really come down to me on how good their crab ragoons and orange chicken are. Everything else can take a hike!
Oh, I thought we were talking about Chinese food. Lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 18, 2014, 11:01:24 PM
did you listen to Toxic yet? that is a great song (not gE'ing)
Nope. :youtubessong:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on June 19, 2014, 06:14:46 AM

Bo lings is overpriced. Anyone who spends too much $ on Chinese food is a dumbass. It's Chinese food for Christ sakes! Hy bee even knows how to do it.

Best Chinese I've had in KC is China Wok off of Barry Rd. Next to St. Luke's North. 

It's one of the few things I will miss after moving from the Northland.
Used to crush China Wok in high school. Also great on hungover mornings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on June 19, 2014, 06:15:35 AM
And lucky dragon in NKC is pretty good I think
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2014, 07:35:52 AM
head to panda express at 135th and metcalf if you're in the mood to experience authentic flavors from the orient

i went on tuesday, they stamped my passport twice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on June 19, 2014, 08:54:57 AM
head to panda express at 135th and metcalf if you're in the mood to experience authentic flavors from the orient

i went on tuesday, they stamped my passport twice

yup. then head down to 143rd Jose Peppers and cap it off with a trip north on Metcalf to Olive Garden...tour the world!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on June 19, 2014, 01:28:57 PM
head to panda express at 135th and metcalf if you're in the mood to experience authentic flavors from the orient

i went on tuesday, they stamped my passport twice
I recently had some Panda in Olathe. It was awful. Is this an Olathe thing or does Panda Express just blow dicks?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
my guess is that your hayseed palate can't handle the true taste of the orient
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2014, 01:30:42 PM
Panda express is really rough ridin' good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on June 19, 2014, 01:33:18 PM
head to panda express at 135th and metcalf if you're in the mood to experience authentic flavors from the orient

i went on tuesday, they stamped my passport twice
I recently had some Panda in Olathe. It was awful. Is this an Olathe thing or does Panda Express just blow dicks?
It is not part of the "Things in Wichita that don't suck" thread for a reason
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 19, 2014, 01:34:08 PM
we talkin' lo mein here uncle 'clams? did you get the orange chicken?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2014, 03:15:52 PM
no lo mein this time "something happened all we have is fried rice" is what i was told.  likely story  :rolleyes:

orange chicken, sweetfire chicken breast, and rangoon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 19, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
Did that one guy in MHK ever kiiiiiill that guy and put him outa businaaaassss?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 19, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
China Feast on linwood or gtfo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2014, 05:41:03 PM
kin lin near 51st and brookside blvd.  dat princess chicken  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 19, 2014, 06:08:03 PM
Did that one guy in MHK ever kiiiiiill that guy and put him outa businaaaassss?


oh man :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 20, 2014, 11:14:51 AM
Did that one guy in MHK ever kiiiiiill that guy and put him outa businaaaassss?


oh man :lol:

nope. tasty china house seems pretty barren and hunam express is in a stronger position than ever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 20, 2014, 11:42:15 AM
China Tom's??
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on June 20, 2014, 05:34:10 PM
Dinner/drinks in waldo tonight, but where?  Go!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2014, 05:36:46 PM
Dinner/drinks in waldo tonight, but where?  Go!

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75th St. Brewery for food....The Well patio for boozing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2014, 12:02:22 PM
Cheering USA tomorrow at P&L.  Pretty neat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2014, 02:22:17 PM
The Ship.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 28, 2014, 02:30:56 PM
The Ship.

What?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 28, 2014, 02:35:42 PM
you haven't heard of it yet, dickstone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 28, 2014, 02:46:05 PM
The Ship.

west bottoms?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2014, 03:32:48 PM
The Ship.

west bottoms?

 :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 28, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
Will try
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 29, 2014, 12:30:17 AM
Can I make a statement about KC BBQ in this thread? Honestly haven't been following it enough to know. Either way, Arthur Bryant's is the BBQ I've enjoyed most in the KC area. Sweet Heat is such a treat (boy is that fun to say!). And the portion size there, wow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2014, 07:45:47 AM
Can I make a statement about KC BBQ in this thread? Honestly haven't been following it enough to know. Either way, Arthur Bryant's is the BBQ I've enjoyed most in the KC area. Sweet Heat is such a treat (boy is that fun to say!). And the portion size there, wow!

Don't forget the setting  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 29, 2014, 07:50:16 AM
I'm going to Bryant's today before K-State day at the K!!!  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 29, 2014, 12:42:56 PM
The Ship.

this is a good one.  so kc. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2014, 09:05:08 PM
Guys where is Gary Lezak?  Its tornadoing out there  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2014, 09:06:58 PM
oh now he shows up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on June 29, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
You know what?  A lot of people in this world live in towns or cities that they really don't like that much.  For me though, as someone who has a family, it doesn't get much better than this city. 

The only places that I would prefer are either cost prohibitive or so far from family that it would cause other undesirable burdens (and there aren't too many cities that fit this category).

Kansas City is pretty rough ridin' good, guys.  Pretty rough ridin' good.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 29, 2014, 09:26:49 PM
good and rough ridin' boring. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
You know what?  A lot of people in this world live in towns or cities that they really don't like that much.  For me though, as someone who has a family, it doesn't get much better than this city. 

The only places that I would prefer are either cost prohibitive or so far from family that it would cause other undesirable burdens (and there aren't too many cities that fit this category).

Kansas City is pretty rough ridin' good, guys.  Pretty rough ridin' good.

the biggest negative kc has is it's weather.  and that's a pretty huge rough ridin' negative.

everything else is pretty good pete :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2014, 09:36:05 PM
good and rough ridin' boring.

what are you looking for that you can't do here? more rollercoasters?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 29, 2014, 09:49:26 PM
ocean, mountains, less hayseeds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 29, 2014, 09:50:16 PM
good and rough ridin' boring.

Maybe I'm easily amused but this seems wrong.  I don't have enough time to do all the crap I want to do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 29, 2014, 10:17:11 PM
I imagine you're going to defend this town no matter what argument someone would  make against it.

I'm just more interested in non-crap cities
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 29, 2014, 10:22:06 PM
I imagine you're going to defend this town no matter what argument someone would  make against it.

I'm just more interested in non-crap cities

Nah, I'm with you, our beach and mountain scene sucks and way too many people come here from small townie worlds in KS/MO/IA/NE/OK....but why would one live in a city they thought was crap?  Weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 29, 2014, 10:22:55 PM
one's job
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 29, 2014, 10:24:28 PM
one's job

indeed.com
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 29, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
move to chicago clams!  all the cool gE'rs are doing it these days.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 29, 2014, 10:30:21 PM
I love Chicago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 29, 2014, 10:33:56 PM
I love Chicago

The best oceans and mountains in america
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 29, 2014, 10:35:43 PM
move to san diego.  chicago is hot/cold garbage and filled with ugly people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2014, 10:36:46 PM
I never get the "I hate the city where I live, its awful, boring etc etc" mindset. Either embrace it and love it or find a place that suits you better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on June 29, 2014, 10:48:58 PM

one's job

:ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2014, 10:50:01 PM
I love Chicago

The best oceans and mountains in america

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on June 29, 2014, 10:51:38 PM

I love Chicago

The best oceans and mountains in america

Property values relative to income are amazingly good in KC despite the oceans and mountains of Chicago.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 29, 2014, 10:52:17 PM
chicago is loaded with hayseeds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2014, 10:53:01 PM
move to san diego.  chicago is hot/cold garbage and filled with ugly people.

Are you enjoying yourself kim? Really beautiful place, and I made out with a hot Australian girl in San Diego  so it gets a good grade from me ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 29, 2014, 10:53:56 PM
I love Chicago

The best oceans and mountains in america
No mountains/oceans, but it has the lake and a ton of beach areas. 

Chicago in the summertime is tough to beat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on June 29, 2014, 10:57:34 PM

I imagine you're going to defend this town no matter what argument someone would  make against it.

I'm just more interested in non-crap cities

Great food unique to the city
Good weather (not horrible)
Decent businesses
Good golf
Good airport
Good schools
Good property values
Good time zone
Good location to get to other good locations for quick weekends
Good non-crime stuff


I consider myself lucky to be here and have family close by.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on June 29, 2014, 10:58:17 PM

I love Chicago

The best oceans and mountains in america
No mountains/oceans, but it has the lake and a ton of beach areas. 

Chicago in the summertime is tough to beat.

I prefer Milwaukee
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 29, 2014, 10:59:23 PM

I love Chicago

The best oceans and mountains in america
No mountains/oceans, but it has the lake and a ton of beach areas. 

Chicago in the summertime is tough to beat.

I prefer Milwaukee
Everything I know about Milwaukee is from Laverne and Shirley.  Seems nice.

FWIW, I love KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 30, 2014, 10:14:07 AM

I love Chicago

The best oceans and mountains in america
No mountains/oceans, but it has the lake and a ton of beach areas. 

Chicago in the summertime is tough to beat.

I prefer Milwaukee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5FT3IGXtAk#t=45
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on June 30, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
clams is muy picante on this subject.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 30, 2014, 06:02:27 PM
I would love to live in KC but the jobs/industries are really pretty limited.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 30, 2014, 06:06:04 PM
I would love to live in KC but the jobs/industries are really pretty limited.

yea :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: signature move on June 30, 2014, 07:56:54 PM
move to san diego.  chicago is hot/cold garbage and filled with ugly people.

right. says noted urbanist kim carnes.

physically beautiful -- which i also find chicago to be -- but boring as hell. true story: good friend moved to chicago from sd because he liked chicago more.

vapid midwesterners who think they'll golf ( :Yuck:), surf and hike all day, every day move to places like san diego or tampa ( :Yuck:  :Yuck:).

i'd love to see your brewery suggestions. gordon biersch and rock bottom or something along those lines?

then a meal at the local mccormick and schmick's?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 30, 2014, 08:08:34 PM
move to san diego.  chicago is hot/cold garbage and filled with ugly people.

right. says noted urbanist kim carnes.

physically beautiful -- which i also find chicago to be -- but boring as hell. true story: good friend moved to chicago from sd because he liked chicago more.

vapid midwesterners who think they'll golf ( :Yuck:), surf and hike all day, every day move to places like san diego or tampa ( :Yuck:  :Yuck:).

i'd love to see your brewery suggestions. gordon biersch and rock bottom or something along those lines?

then a meal at the local mccormick and schmick's?

wait, are you seriously trying to make fun of san diego's breweries?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: signature move on June 30, 2014, 08:17:25 PM
wait, are you seriously trying to make fun of san diego's breweries?

no, i am making fun of your taste in stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 30, 2014, 08:20:57 PM
I would love to live in KC but the jobs/industries are really pretty limited.

What's your industry, btw?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 30, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
product design/engineering/sourcing/qa
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2014, 08:24:23 PM
product design/engineering/sourcing/qa

Oh man, I totally guessed this correctly  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 30, 2014, 08:41:32 PM
product design/engineering/sourcing/qa

Don't know much about these. Seems like every other Kstater in KC is an engineer, tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 30, 2014, 08:43:22 PM
product design/engineering/sourcing/qa

Don't know much about these. Seems like every other Kstater in KC is an engineer, tho.

Yeah but it's mostly the Burns & mac/Black & veach types. Great place if that's your specific field.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 30, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
there's no good companies in kc but that's ok b/c the workforce in kc pretty much blows ass too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 30, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
there's no good companies in kc but that's ok b/c the workforce in kc pretty much blows ass too

Cerner?  Populous?  Black & Veetch?  Burns & Mac?  American Century? 

I'd agree some of the other larger employers like DST, State Street, Gov't, Sprint, Yellow....pretty ass sucky.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 30, 2014, 08:59:44 PM
cerner is good, you're right.  the rest are all kind of pud but good enough for kc.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 30, 2014, 09:16:10 PM
Yeah, I mean, it's not NYC, LA, Chicago, etc. 

KC is a middle tier city with some cool stuff to offer.  Good place to live. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 30, 2014, 09:55:00 PM

KC is a middle tier city with some cool stuff to offer.
this is pretty good perspective imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on July 01, 2014, 05:33:46 AM
Clams is such a curmudgeon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 01, 2014, 08:50:20 AM
product design/engineering/sourcing/qa

I'm in product design/engineering.  :D

But ya I've been here 8 years.  Haven't been tempted to move on yet.  I don't actually do the design, BTW, just the project management, which I guess is more transferable. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2014, 09:25:29 AM
product design/engineering/sourcing/qa

I'm in product design/engineering.  :D

But ya I've been here 8 years.  Haven't been tempted to move on yet.  I don't actually do the design, BTW, just the project management, which I guess is more transferable.

Yeah, jobs like that definitely exist. But are there many companies in kc you think you could (or would want to) go to if you wanted to make a change?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 01, 2014, 09:34:25 AM
product design/engineering/sourcing/qa

I'm in product design/engineering.  :D

But ya I've been here 8 years.  Haven't been tempted to move on yet.  I don't actually do the design, BTW, just the project management, which I guess is more transferable.

Yeah, jobs like that definitely exist. But are there many companies in kc you think you could (or would want to) go to if you wanted to make a change?

I'm contemplating the consulting engineering gig, which KC is about the best place in the world for, but I'd like to stick with some sort of innovation/development type deal for a while.  Where you are would be a pretty cool place to work with all those start-ups.  We're always interfacing with folks from over there and it seems fun.  I'm kinda risk averse, though. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2014, 10:14:35 AM
cerner is good, you're right.  the rest are all kind of pud but good enough for kc.

 :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2014, 10:17:13 AM
We moved in the little corridor between 119th and 135th and Metcalf and Nall.

I have yet to find anything that's not within one mile of my house.  My wife planned a shopping trip with about eight stops in it last weekend, and they were all within a mile of our house.

Christ, there's a Varney's on 135th and Nall in Prairie Fire.

Basically, I'm saying that I now understand why everyone who moves to JoCo stays there.  It's a nice place to live when you get old and lazy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2014, 10:28:48 AM
I can't imagine what anyone does with their life past 95th st. Woof!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 01, 2014, 10:31:56 AM
I can't imagine what anyone does with their life past 95th st. Woof!

stops pretending they are 22. proposes to their live-in gf. gets married. has kids. moves to the area that best accomodates their kids schooling and academic/athletic endeavors. and other adult crap like that. :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2014, 10:33:42 AM
I can't imagine what anyone does with their life past 95th st. Woof!

stops pretending they are 22. proposes to their live-in gf. gets married. has kids. moves to the area that best accomodates their kids schooling and academic/athletic endeavors. and other adult crap like that. :dunno:
I'm just gE'ing here, bud. I'm sure the south accomodates to married ppl with children. I'm just a downtown snob now.  :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2014, 10:35:09 AM
I can't imagine what anyone does with their life past 95th st. Woof!

stops pretending they are 22. proposes to their live-in gf. gets married. has kids. moves to the area that best accomodates their kids schooling and academic/athletic endeavors. and other adult crap like that. :dunno:

I mow my yard and go to Home Depot a lot.  Stop at Dairy Queen for a blizzard.  BBS, read, and watch some Netflix.

It's not exciting, but I like it, and Kansas City is kind of the perfect place for a slow life like that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2014, 10:37:12 AM
I know. My buddy lives down by 119th and his gf is at 135th. They both work at farmers. He use to live downtown before he moved down there to be closer to her and now he acts like coming downtown is the biggest hassle ever. It just really annoys me cause he use to be a downtown snob and now doesn't want to visit when the rolls are reversed.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 01, 2014, 10:37:37 AM
I can't imagine what anyone does with their life past 95th st. Woof!

stops pretending they are 22. proposes to their live-in gf. gets married. has kids. moves to the area that best accomodates their kids schooling and academic/athletic endeavors. and other adult crap like that. :dunno:
I'm just gE'ing here, bud. I'm sure the south accomodates to married ppl with children. I'm just a downtown snob now.  :ohno:

me too  :D

(planning on possibly moving to mid-town or the river market fairly soon)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
I can't imagine what anyone does with their life past 95th st. Woof!

stops pretending they are 22. proposes to their live-in gf. gets married. has kids. moves to the area that best accomodates their kids schooling and academic/athletic endeavors. and other adult crap like that. :dunno:
I'm just gE'ing here, bud. I'm sure the south accomodates to married ppl with children. I'm just a downtown snob now.  :ohno:

me too  :D

(planning on possibly moving to mid-town or the river market fairly soon)
:thumbs:  :cheers: Downtown bud!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 01, 2014, 10:40:38 AM
I know. My buddy lives down by 119th and his gf is at 135th. They both work at farmers. He use to live downtown before he moved down there to be closer to her and now he acts like coming downtown is the biggest hassle ever. It just really annoys me cause he use to be a downtown snob and now doesn't want to visit when the rolls are reversed.  :curse:

:(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 01, 2014, 10:40:55 AM
My buddy moved to like 141st and Antioch.  I never see him anymore.  Might as well be Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 01, 2014, 10:43:34 AM
I know. My buddy lives down by 119th and his gf is at 135th. They both work at farmers. He use to live downtown before he moved down there to be closer to her and now he acts like coming downtown is the biggest hassle ever. It just really annoys me cause he use to be a downtown snob and now doesn't want to visit when the rolls are reversed.  :curse:

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2014, 10:50:04 AM
We moved in the little corridor between 119th and 135th and Metcalf and Nall.

I have yet to find anything that's not within one mile of my house. 

culture?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 01, 2014, 10:55:43 AM
We moved in the little corridor between 119th and 135th and Metcalf and Nall.

I have yet to find anything that's not within one mile of my house. 

culture?

He said something about Netflix.  Probs foreign films and stuff.  Next?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 01, 2014, 11:00:33 AM
i love listening to people talk about how cultured they are, i guess i'm cultured like that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2014, 11:02:23 AM
We moved in the little corridor between 119th and 135th and Metcalf and Nall.

I have yet to find anything that's not within one mile of my house. 

culture?

Yeah, I don't have that.

There's a Bo Lings off of 135th, but yeah, we're missing that.

On the plus side, Cinetopia and a bowling alley/bistro hybrid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2014, 11:03:21 AM
i love listening to people talk about how cultured they are, i guess i'm cultured like that.

I really hated to use that word, but I couldn't think of any other single word that encompassed anything interesting.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 01, 2014, 11:10:56 AM
i love listening to people talk about how cultured they are, i guess i'm cultured like that.

Know what else is cultured?  Cheese.  Now, pass the Brie and Beaujolais, you bourgeois bia.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 01, 2014, 11:49:24 AM
what I don't get is people living in a town they don't want to live in. decide where you want to be and then make it happen. in terms of easy to hard, that is like second grade type crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 11:53:15 AM
Sometimes people bitch about things because they are just huge pussies.  It's not really about the thing.  Something to think about here. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
what I don't get is people living in a town they don't want to live in. decide where you want to be and then make it happen. in terms of easy to hard, that is like second grade type crap.

I could understand living in a town you don't want to if you have a job you really like.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 11:54:11 AM
what I don't get is people living in a town they don't want to live in. decide where you want to be and then make it happen. in terms of easy to hard, that is like second grade type crap.

I could understand living in a town you don't want to if you have a job you really like.

2nd grade idiot outed.  Next.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2014, 11:57:11 AM
i love listening to people talk about how cultured they are, i guess i'm cultured like that.

I really hated to use that word, but I couldn't think of any other single word that encompassed anything interesting.

No, it's an appropriate word.  It's a pretty bland area.

Basically, it's swapping culture for convenience.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 01, 2014, 11:58:09 AM
Every day there are people moving from Chicago to Houston because of better job opportunities or because they like the city better. But guess what, every day there are people moving Houston to Chicago because of better job opportunities or because they like the city better.
You figure out the moral of the story.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
To be honest, would I rather live in San Diego or Seattle?  Sure.  I've been to both, loved them, and could see myself really enjoying them.  I haven't been to Portland, but I'm guessing I'd probably dig it, too.

That said, I am able to afford a certain type of lifestyle living in KC that I couldn't have if I lived in any of those other places, plus, I'm around lifelong friends, family, and other things that I care about (i.e. KSU).

If I were to give an aggregate score on all facets of my life (everything Pete said), KC probably wins, therefore, I stay.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 01, 2014, 12:04:59 PM
what I don't get is people living in a town they don't want to live in. decide where you want to be and then make it happen. in terms of easy to hard, that is like second grade type crap.

I could understand living in a town you don't want to if you have a job you really like.

not when you've already come out as saying that the town is just mediocre for jobs and opportunities. also, the job is like part of the town. like you only have that great job because you live in that town or whatever. so just stfu.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
I'm confused
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 01, 2014, 12:18:48 PM
To be honest, would I rather live in San Diego or Seattle?  Sure.  I've been to both, loved them, and could see myself really enjoying them.  I haven't been to Portland, but I'm guessing I'd probably dig it, too.

That said, I am able to afford a certain type of lifestyle living in KC that I couldn't have if I lived in any of those other places, plus, I'm around lifelong friends, family, and other things that I care about (i.e. KSU).

If I were to give an aggregate score on all facets of my life (everything Pete said), KC probably wins, therefore, I stay.

well said, 'jandrum
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 01, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
I'm confused

don't worry about it, he's talking to me anyway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2014, 02:20:24 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=250156975183103

 :sdeek: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 01, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
We moved in the little corridor between 119th and 135th and Metcalf and Nall.

I have yet to find anything that's not within one mile of my house.  My wife planned a shopping trip with about eight stops in it last weekend, and they were all within a mile of our house.

Christ, there's a Varney's on 135th and Nall in Prairie Fire.

Basically, I'm saying that I now understand why everyone who moves to JoCo stays there.  It's a nice place to live when you get old and lazy.

That literally sounds like hell.  8 stops, within a mile....you drove, right?   :Yuck: But yeah I mean you are right, lots of people love living close to a target/etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 02, 2014, 12:34:56 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=250156975183103

 :sdeek: :lol:

what in the actual eff
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on July 02, 2014, 07:28:05 AM
I can't imagine what anyone does with their life past 95th st. Woof!

stops pretending they are 22. proposes to their live-in gf. gets married. has kids. moves to the area that best accomodates their kids schooling and academic/athletic endeavors. and other adult crap like that. :dunno:
I'm just gE'ing here, bud. I'm sure the south accomodates to married ppl with children. I'm just a downtown snob now.  :ohno:

me too  :D

(planning on possibly moving to mid-town or the river market fairly soon)

J-Dub, I don't recall us talking about work much because we were too busy talking 'cats and other sports but my unsolicited friendly advice would be to avoid living downtown or the market unless you work there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 02, 2014, 07:38:46 AM
Culture is such an interesting concept. Like do people in a particularly homogeneous area of India not have culture, similar to the Johnson Countians? Does a place only have culture if it is a place where several cultures intersect? Does it require indie bands to play concerts in small bars?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on July 02, 2014, 07:50:24 AM
We moved in the little corridor between 119th and 135th and Metcalf and Nall.

I have yet to find anything that's not within one mile of my house. 

culture?

lol at anyone who doesn't believe there can be a sense of culture in the suburbs. Great people who care about each other (for the most part) create a sense of community and that is culture, IMO. No, there's not grafiti on the sides of buildings and you're not going to have a pointless streetcar to nowhere built on the backs of people who don't want or need it in the next few years, but there's nothing wrong with Johnson County. I'm not sure I could live in the farthest reaching suburbs myself, but the 119-135 corridor that was described is hardly an exterior suburb at this point.

Sure, I prefer the character of PV's nicer parts and Old Leawood, but I've come to respect the aforementioned 119-135/Nall-Metcalf area for the people, convenience, and quality of life. That said, I work downtown and it'll take quite the pressure from a filly to pull me that far south. But...it's pretty hard to argue that SME district (Westwood, Fairway, PV, and Old Leawood) isn't more desirable than farther south unless you work in OP/Olathe (Olathe... :Yuck:)

I'm not going to live my much of my adult life in mid- or down-town. FWIW, I've lived between the plaza and WP for a year+ and am moving to the valentine neighborhood this month. Just  don't see it being practical for much longer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on July 02, 2014, 07:52:18 AM
what I don't get is people living in a town they don't want to live in. decide where you want to be and then make it happen. in terms of easy to hard, that is like second grade type crap.

 :thumbsup: this guy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2014, 07:53:59 AM
I'm pretty sure micat means diverse culture as opposed to homogeneous culture guys.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2014, 08:03:51 AM
where I live will fight any of the places any of you live in an old fashioned homogeneous-off btw. the suburb/farm fringe zone of omaha wins against any and all takers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on July 02, 2014, 08:26:01 AM
where I live will fight any of the places any of you live in an old fashioned homogeneous-off btw. the suburb/farm fringe zone of omaha wins against any and all takers.

Where I live would put up a good fight in a homogeneous-off sd.  Maybe even take the belt from where you live.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 02, 2014, 08:27:50 AM
in the battle of the dave's, tdaver's got a damn strong argument
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 02, 2014, 08:29:38 AM
Any of the Scandinavian countries are way more homogeneous than Johnson County, FWIW.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2014, 08:49:25 AM
Any of the Scandinavian countries are way more homogeneous than Johnson County, FWIW.

so on the diversity scale, Johnson > Johansson
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2014, 09:13:21 AM
i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 02, 2014, 09:30:56 AM

i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.
Nailed it.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2014, 11:02:21 AM
Culture is such an interesting concept. Like do people in a particularly homogeneous area of India not have culture, similar to the Johnson Countians? Does a place only have culture if it is a place where several cultures intersect? Does it require indie bands to play concerts in small bars?

What does it mean to you? In the context I used it, I was just referring to any and everything interesting and unique.


We moved in the little corridor between 119th and 135th and Metcalf and Nall.

I have yet to find anything that's not within one mile of my house. 

culture?

lol at anyone who doesn't believe there can be a sense of culture in the suburbs. Great people who care about each other (for the most part) create a sense of community and that is culture, IMO. No, there's not grafiti on the sides of buildings and you're not going to have a pointless streetcar to nowhere built on the backs of people who don't want or need it in the next few years, but there's nothing wrong with Johnson County. I'm not sure I could live in the farthest reaching suburbs myself, but the 119-135 corridor that was described is hardly an exterior suburb at this point.

Sure, I prefer the character of PV's nicer parts and Old Leawood, but I've come to respect the aforementioned 119-135/Nall-Metcalf area for the people, convenience, and quality of life. That said, I work downtown and it'll take quite the pressure from a filly to pull me that far south. But...it's pretty hard to argue that SME district (Westwood, Fairway, PV, and Old Leawood) isn't more desirable than farther south unless you work in OP/Olathe (Olathe... :Yuck:)

I'm not going to live my much of my adult life in mid- or down-town. FWIW, I've lived between the plaza and WP for a year+ and am moving to the valentine neighborhood this month. Just  don't see it being practical for much longer.

How on Earth can you look down on Olathe while saying 119th-135th and Nall is acceptable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2014, 11:10:02 AM
ah yes, the character of PV's nicer parts, where, by design, every house looks exactly like the house built next to it.  let's hit the blue moose!

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: signature move on July 02, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=250156975183103

 :sdeek: :lol:

is that real? the jump cut makes the sled taking flight look like an old monty python skit where someone jumping out a window became an obvious ragdoll dummy in the next shot.

i mean. . . crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=250156975183103

 :sdeek: :lol:

is that real? the jump cut makes the sled taking flight look like an old monty python skit where someone jumping out a window became an obvious ragdoll dummy in the next shot.

i mean. . . crap.
Oh yeah.. it's real!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 02, 2014, 11:24:00 AM
i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, walks the walk on "stay near by where you live and don't spend time in parts of the town you don't love" better than Clams.  No one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
ah yes, the character of PV's nicer parts, where, by design, every house looks exactly like the house built next to it.  let's hit the blue moose!

i guess the only difference is loads of huge trees everywhere provide some character, and cape cods are more charming than whatever OP is filled with
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on July 02, 2014, 12:21:31 PM
ah yes, the character of PV's nicer parts, where, by design, every house looks exactly like the house built next to it.  let's hit the blue moose!

i guess the only difference is loads of huge trees everywhere provide some character, and cape cods are more charming than whatever OP is filled with

On the one hand, there are about 4 different house blueprints used throughout PV north of 75th street (sometimes flipped or spun around, tho!). On the other hand, because they were built 60+ years ago, decades of remodeling, landscaping, and the aforementioned trees have lent some character to the neighborhoods.

So maybe in 50 years 119/135 will escape some of the blandness, too. Although they already have a Blue Moose, so rough start.


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on July 02, 2014, 12:34:28 PM
ah yes, the character of PV's nicer parts, where, by design, every house looks exactly like the house built next to it.  let's hit the blue moose!

i guess the only difference is loads of huge trees everywhere provide some character, and cape cods are more charming than whatever OP is filled with

Trees!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2014, 12:34:50 PM
i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, walks the walk on "stay near by where you live and don't spend time in parts of the town you don't love" better than Clams.  No one.

but the reality is that i spend the large majority of my time in the hell that is the 119th/South OP corridor.  in fact, i can tell you, in detail, every design change made to the honda odyssey over the past decade.  problems with your golden lab?  i'll diagnose them.  having trouble picking out just the right shade of taupe to paint your house this summer?  my eye can distinguish over 800,000 shades of taupe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 02, 2014, 12:40:43 PM
i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, walks the walk on "stay near by where you live and don't spend time in parts of the town you don't love" better than Clams.  No one.

but the reality is that i spend the large majority of my time in the hell that is the 119th/South OP corridor.  in fact, i can tell you, in detail, every design change made to the honda odyssey over the past decade.  problems with your golden lab?  i'll diagnose them.  having trouble picking out just the right shade of taupe to paint your house this summer?  my eye can distinguish over 800,000 shades of taupe.

Any experience with divorce and extra marital affairs and boob jobs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2014, 12:43:04 PM
i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, walks the walk on "stay near by where you live and don't spend time in parts of the town you don't love" better than Clams.  No one.

but the reality is that i spend the large majority of my time in the hell that is the 119th/South OP corridor.  in fact, i can tell you, in detail, every design change made to the honda odyssey over the past decade.  problems with your golden lab?  i'll diagnose them.  having trouble picking out just the right shade of taupe to paint your house this summer?  my eye can distinguish over 800,000 shades of taupe.

Any experience with divorce and extra marital affairs and boob jobs?

people move to johnson county to avoid all that stuff.  it's a safe haven where only good things grow (assuming your HOA allows you to grow things).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2014, 12:43:47 PM
Last summer I was getting a tux caddy corner from the Oklahoma Joe's on 119th and whatever. I didn't want to sit at the tux place so I went to Oklahoma Joe's. Crossing the street and using the sidewalk was a hilarious experience.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 02, 2014, 12:46:23 PM
i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, walks the walk on "stay near by where you live and don't spend time in parts of the town you don't love" better than Clams.  No one.

but the reality is that i spend the large majority of my time in the hell that is the 119th/South OP corridor.  in fact, i can tell you, in detail, every design change made to the honda odyssey over the past decade.  problems with your golden lab?  i'll diagnose them.  having trouble picking out just the right shade of taupe to paint your house this summer?  my eye can distinguish over 800,000 shades of taupe.

Any experience with divorce and extra marital affairs and boob jobs?

people move to johnson county to avoid all that stuff.  it's a safe haven where only good things grow (assuming your HOA allows you to grow things).

Pfft, not in that 119th/135th Metcalf corridor.  People slamming their neighbors all over the place.  Then they get divorced and the first thing little miss tan Lexus SUV does is buy some boobs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on July 02, 2014, 12:47:35 PM
ah yes, the character of PV's nicer parts, where, by design, every house looks exactly like the house built next to it.  let's hit the blue moose!

i guess the only difference is loads of huge trees everywhere provide some character, and cape cods are more charming than whatever OP is filled with

On the one hand, there are about 4 different house blueprints used throughout PV north of 75th street (sometimes flipped or spun around, tho!). On the other hand, because they were built 60+ years ago, decades of remodeling, landscaping, and the aforementioned trees have lent some character to the neighborhoods.

So maybe in 50 years 119/135 will escape some of the blandness, too. Although they already have a Blue Moose, so rough start.

I was talking about the nice parts of PV and Old Leawood. Around 71st surrouding IHCC and toward St. Line. Nall to State Line between high 70s and state line. Old leawood basically Nall to St. Line from Somerset to ~100th. Old leawood and esp. the Lee Blbd is a wonderful area. Some parts of PV are very bland and full of ranches - specifically the area between St. Line/Mision and 75th/79th. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on July 02, 2014, 12:48:09 PM
That sounds awful, emo.  Ts and Ps on your marriage. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2014, 12:48:38 PM
i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, walks the walk on "stay near by where you live and don't spend time in parts of the town you don't love" better than Clams.  No one.

but the reality is that i spend the large majority of my time in the hell that is the 119th/South OP corridor.  in fact, i can tell you, in detail, every design change made to the honda odyssey over the past decade.  problems with your golden lab?  i'll diagnose them.  having trouble picking out just the right shade of taupe to paint your house this summer?  my eye can distinguish over 800,000 shades of taupe.

Any experience with divorce and extra marital affairs and boob jobs?

people move to johnson county to avoid all that stuff.  it's a safe haven where only good things grow (assuming your HOA allows you to grow things).

Pfft, not in that 119th/135th Metcalf corridor.  People slamming their neighbors all over the place.  Then they get divorced and the first thing little miss tan Lexus SUV does is buy some boobs.

sorry but that's not what i was told.  everyone told me that it's a wonderful place to raise a family.  what you described sounds like jackson county, i bet you're just mixed up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2014, 12:49:12 PM
this bbs conversation is very much a kansas city thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 02, 2014, 12:50:19 PM
are all nick and jakes swingers hangouts or just the 135th one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 02, 2014, 12:51:21 PM
i think we all agree now that if you don't love where you live then get the hell out.  good talk guys.  i feel better.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, walks the walk on "stay near by where you live and don't spend time in parts of the town you don't love" better than Clams.  No one.

but the reality is that i spend the large majority of my time in the hell that is the 119th/South OP corridor.  in fact, i can tell you, in detail, every design change made to the honda odyssey over the past decade.  problems with your golden lab?  i'll diagnose them.  having trouble picking out just the right shade of taupe to paint your house this summer?  my eye can distinguish over 800,000 shades of taupe.

Any experience with divorce and extra marital affairs and boob jobs?

people move to johnson county to avoid all that stuff.  it's a safe haven where only good things grow (assuming your HOA allows you to grow things).

Pfft, not in that 119th/135th Metcalf corridor.  People slamming their neighbors all over the place.  Then they get divorced and the first thing little miss tan Lexus SUV does is buy some boobs.

sorry but that's not what i was told.  everyone told me that it's a wonderful place to raise a family.  what you described sounds like jackson county, i bet you're just mixed up.

They're all KU fans anyway. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2014, 12:55:06 PM
are all nick and jakes swingers hangouts or just the 135th one?

we'll find out tonight, got a new one on main street.  booyah. can't wait to wear my ironed tapout shirt over there and see what the pickins look like.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on July 02, 2014, 12:56:45 PM
Do divorcée ladies love Ryan Stiles?  My sources say you bet your sweet ass they do. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 02, 2014, 01:31:29 PM
Last summer I was getting a tux caddy corner from the Oklahoma Joe's on 119th and whatever. I didn't want to sit at the tux place so I went to Oklahoma Joe's. Crossing the street and using the sidewalk was a hilarious experience.

Doing so is a personal affront to all those Honda drivers 'Clams mentioned.  They rough ridin' hate ppl that have the audacity to walk. 

I mean, get a god damn car already!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 02, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
Last summer I was getting a tux caddy corner from the Oklahoma Joe's on 119th and whatever. I didn't want to sit at the tux place so I went to Oklahoma Joe's. Crossing the street and using the sidewalk was a hilarious experience.

Doing so is a personal affront to all those Honda drivers 'Clams mentioned.  They rough ridin' hate ppl that have the audacity to walk. 

I mean, get a god damn car already!

It's too damn dangerous to walk.  The JoCo doesn't look for pedestrians. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 02, 2014, 01:38:09 PM
It is pretty wild given the previous stories about making 8 stops all within one mile of travel. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2014, 01:42:38 PM
I'm just amazed at the SIZE of the intersections. Like, 119th and Metcalf is INSANE.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
Please note this applies to Everysuburb, USA, not just Johnson County
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2014, 01:44:17 PM
I'm just amazed at the SIZE of the intersections. Like, 119th and Metcalf is INSANE.

yeah it's a mind blow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 02, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
clams, our choc lab Bailey isn't sleeping well.  Help?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 02, 2014, 01:46:27 PM
I'm just amazed at the SIZE of the intersections. Like, 119th and Metcalf is INSANE.

the worst in the city i think
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
Shawnee mission pkwy is the worst thing in this city. I mean it can take 30 minutes from shawnee to the plaza because of the lights.  :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on July 02, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
Please note this applies to Everysuburb, USA, not just Johnson County

Yup. You could drop 119th/135th outside Dallas, NoVa, OKC, or most other decently-sized cities, or vice versa, and never tell the difference.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 02, 2014, 01:59:25 PM
Please note this applies to Everysuburb, USA, not just Johnson County

Yup. You could drop 119th/135th outside Dallas, NoVa, OKC, or most other decently-sized cities, or vice versa, and never tell the difference.

I bet 'Clams could. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on July 02, 2014, 02:04:03 PM
Please note this applies to Everysuburb, USA, not just Johnson County

Yup. You could drop 119th/135th outside Dallas, NoVa, OKC, or most other decently-sized cities, or vice versa, and never tell the difference.

No way. Dallas burbs are the most eclectic in the country.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on July 02, 2014, 02:04:26 PM
j/k   :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 02, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
Guess who was/is the lead civil engineer on the 435 widening project.

Yup a :katategrad:


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on July 02, 2014, 04:14:46 PM
We moved in the little corridor between 119th and 135th and Metcalf and Nall.

I have yet to find anything that's not within one mile of my house. 

culture?
Do you even prairie fire museum?
Neither does anyone else,  but it's there!

Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 02, 2014, 09:58:10 PM
where I live will fight any of the places any of you live in an old fashioned homogeneous-off btw. the suburb/farm fringe zone of omaha wins against any and all takers.

frightening really.  idk what part of town you're referring to, but I saw some pretty impressively segregated parts of Omaha when I was there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2014, 10:10:21 PM
Everybody pump your breaks! For crying out loud! If you leave KS, 'grats! If you stick around and party 'Grats! Happy 4th, dorks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on July 02, 2014, 11:30:22 PM
Everybody pump your breaks! For crying out loud! If you leave KS, 'grats! If you stick around and party 'Grats! Happy 4th, dorks! :Woohoo:

 :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on July 03, 2014, 01:28:44 AM
I have yet to find neighbors banging each other, but we've only been here a month, so anything is possible.

And I enjoy both of my Honda automobiles, dammit.

(I realize that where I live is very bland, but I like it thus far.)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on July 03, 2014, 08:21:12 AM
I have yet to find neighbors banging each other, but we've only been here a month, so anything is possible.

And I enjoy both of my Honda automobiles, dammit.

(I realize that where I live is very bland, but I like it thus far.)

Honda makes a great car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 03, 2014, 12:35:27 PM
I have yet to find neighbors banging each other, but we've only been here a month, so anything is possible.

And I enjoy both of my Honda automobiles, dammit.

(I realize that where I live is very bland, but I like it thus far.)

Honda makes a great car.

My wife's Odyssey drives like a dream.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 03, 2014, 07:31:30 PM
I have yet to find neighbors banging each other, but we've only been here a month, so anything is possible.

And I enjoy both of my Honda automobiles, dammit.

(I realize that where I live is very bland, but I like it thus far.)

Honda makes a great car.

My wife's Odyssey drives like a dream.

Got a 2014 pilot, it's good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 03, 2014, 08:13:37 PM

I have yet to find neighbors banging each other, but we've only been here a month, so anything is possible.

And I enjoy both of my Honda automobiles, dammit.

(I realize that where I live is very bland, but I like it thus far.)

Honda makes a great car.

My wife's Odyssey drives like a dream.
I think I could drive ours for 10 hours straight on a windy mountain road at 80 mph and it wouldn't even phase me.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 03, 2014, 08:23:27 PM
Hondas are awful.   Like, why on earth would you buy a honda?  And before one of you dumbasses say they're reliable, there are a lot of reliable cars.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 03, 2014, 08:24:32 PM
Hondas are awful.   Like, why on earth would you buy a honda?  And before one of you dumbasses say they're reliable, there are a lot of reliable cars.

It's the sex appeal Kim. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 03, 2014, 08:52:36 PM
Kim, what about 2004 Hyundai Elantras?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 03, 2014, 09:01:38 PM
Kc can't afford an import
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 03, 2014, 11:53:54 PM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 03, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

What do you drive?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 04, 2014, 12:06:23 AM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

What do you drive?

(http://www.rileycountypolice.org/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/ride_along_patrol_car.jpg?itok=anGjvLNb)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 04, 2014, 12:09:06 AM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

What do you drive?

(http://www.rileycountypolice.org/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/ride_along_patrol_car.jpg?itok=anGjvLNb)

I was obviously talking about his personal car, idiot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 04, 2014, 12:43:18 AM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

What do you drive?

11 year old camry that i've had for 11 years. will probably just drive it until it dies/gets a really expensive repair or whatever. dunno.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 04, 2014, 12:45:44 AM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

What do you drive?

11 year old camry that i've had for 11 years. will probably just drive it until it dies/gets a really expensive repair or whatever. dunno.

That's great, I hope you enjoy it. I also hope you remember who I am  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 04, 2014, 12:50:24 AM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

What do you drive?

11 year old camry that i've had for 11 years. will probably just drive it until it dies/gets a really expensive repair or whatever. dunno.

That's great, I hope you enjoy it. I also hope you remember who I am  :crossfingers:

i mean, it's a car. i don't enjoy it anymore than i enjoy my mower. also, you are a good poster, so yes i will obviously remember you. almost approaching cf3 serviceable level.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 04, 2014, 12:56:28 AM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

What do you drive?

11 year old camry that i've had for 11 years. will probably just drive it until it dies/gets a really expensive repair or whatever. dunno.

That's great, I hope you enjoy it. I also hope you remember who I am  :crossfingers:

i mean, it's a car. i don't enjoy it anymore than i enjoy my mower. also, you are a good poster, so yes i will obviously remember you. almost approaching cf3 serviceable level.

Oh man, goals for the summer, double thumbs ( :thumbs: :thumbs:)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 04, 2014, 01:16:33 AM
'grats, seven :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 04, 2014, 01:19:27 AM
i really should do a best posters of the past 12 months thread. would be a real eye opener for some.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 04, 2014, 01:21:04 AM
i really should do a best posters of the past 12 months thread. would be a real eye opener for some.

would read
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 04, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
Serviceable is like, high praise
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 04, 2014, 01:22:15 AM
Serviceable is like, high praise

yeah. cf3 is in the big leagues now. really proud of him  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 04, 2014, 01:27:17 AM
Yeah he won the Cy Old right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 04, 2014, 01:30:30 AM
i really should do a best posters of the past 12 months thread. would be a real eye opener for some.

I may crack the top 100!

Do it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 04, 2014, 01:32:10 AM
I mean you guys and your Hondas, just give it a break already
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 04, 2014, 01:32:40 AM

Yeah he won the Cy Old right?

also earned a James Beard from rusty.  it's been a good summer for our guy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 04, 2014, 01:33:18 AM
I mean you guys and your Hondas, just give it a break already

Finally off work huh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 04, 2014, 01:34:08 AM
I mean you guys and your Hondas, just give it a break already

Finally off work huh

You post like fanning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 04, 2014, 01:35:10 AM
I'm not saying that as an insult, I mean you literally post like fanning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 04, 2014, 01:35:52 AM
Which is insulting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 04, 2014, 01:36:06 AM
I mean you guys and your Hondas, just give it a break already

Finally off work huh

You post like fanning

Explain please. (Not a bad thing, love you wacky)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 04, 2014, 01:38:31 AM
Give me your best KC, I mean these internet words cut me deep.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 04, 2014, 01:42:02 AM
Wow. KC is gonna make fun of me you guys.  :ohno:

Is he gonna say something mean and hurtful?  :ohno:

I better start feeling bad about myself now to save myself from self hurt later  :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 04, 2014, 01:42:39 AM
Sorry for the interruption.

Please continue everyone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on July 04, 2014, 01:52:55 AM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

What do you drive?

11 year old camry that i've had for 11 years. will probably just drive it until it dies/gets a really expensive repair or whatever. dunno.

My Civic is eight years old.  I love that car.  First big thing I ever really bought for me.  I plan on driving it at least 3-4 more years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 04, 2014, 01:54:45 AM
'grats, seven

can't do a top 100. could do top 20 and guess what? you'd be in it!  :ksu:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 04, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
power and light! http://youtu.be/9lZ7XfC612k
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2014, 10:02:57 AM
Mods please flush pages 43-45 from the KC thread permanent record. Horrible bbs'ing.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 05, 2014, 11:40:19 AM
man, nothing worse than car weirdos that get all weird about certain makes or models. it's the living opinion equivalent of an affliction shirt or something. not kidding when i say that i slowly just move away from people that have super opinions about cars. weirdest of the weird.

Yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 05, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
Mods please flush pages 43-45 from the KC thread permanent record. Horrible bbs'ing.


(http://www.nuvo.net/imager/indiana-makes-poor-public-integrity-marks/b/original/2432715/acc2/Request_Denied_by_Xiguli_-_Lisa.jpg)

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 05, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
Karnes has a Calvin pissing on imports sticker
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on July 05, 2014, 01:28:09 PM
Karnes has a Calvin pissing on imports sticker

if i bought one of these i would be angry too

(http://newartcars.com/data_images/gallery/honda-pilot/honda-pilot-08.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 05, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
It's cool bro, those stickers really send a message.  The message is "I'm a dumb hick"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 05, 2014, 07:27:49 PM
I don't even care if my vehicle has a glovebox to put a belt it, Rowdyboy. So there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 09, 2014, 10:06:17 AM
http://realestate.msn.com/americas-10-most-dangerous-suburbs#2  :frown:

Mocat! :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 09, 2014, 03:13:27 PM
The net ruined it.  :frown:

http://www.kctv5.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10348206
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 09, 2014, 04:09:48 PM
http://realestate.msn.com/americas-10-most-dangerous-suburbs#2  :frown:

Mocat! :shakesfist:

what do you mean "mocat"? i don't live in or give a crap about independence. salt of the earth people out there tho. honest to goodness they go to more chiefs games and goodwill stores and putt putt golf places than all of goEMAW combined
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 09, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
http://realestate.msn.com/americas-10-most-dangerous-suburbs#2  :frown:

Mocat! :shakesfist:

what do you mean "mocat"? i don't live in or give a crap about independence. salt of the earth people out there tho. honest to goodness they go to more chiefs games and goodwill stores and putt putt golf places than all of goEMAW combined
You're mocat. Any bad rep this city gets from the missouri side is on you.  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 09, 2014, 04:13:16 PM
http://realestate.msn.com/americas-10-most-dangerous-suburbs#2  :frown:

Mocat! :shakesfist:

what do you mean "mocat"? i don't live in or give a crap about independence. salt of the earth people out there tho. honest to goodness they go to more chiefs games and goodwill stores and putt putt golf places than all of goEMAW combined

i played putt putt the other weekend  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 09, 2014, 04:13:57 PM
I played golf last thrursday. 3 pars and 1 birdie.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 09, 2014, 04:14:24 PM
http://realestate.msn.com/americas-10-most-dangerous-suburbs#2  :frown:

Mocat! :shakesfist:

what do you mean "mocat"? i don't live in or give a crap about independence. salt of the earth people out there tho. honest to goodness they go to more chiefs games and goodwill stores and putt putt golf places than all of goEMAW combined
You're mocat. Any bad rep this city gets from the missouri side is on you.  :)

independence is actually very depressing to be in
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 09, 2014, 04:14:42 PM
I played golf last thrursday. 3 pars and 1 birdie.  :gocho:

Is it possible to Luke oneself? honest question.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 09, 2014, 04:15:26 PM
I played golf last thrursday. 3 pars and 1 birdie.  :gocho:

Is it possible to Luke oneself? honest question.
Yes, but, nobody checks out the business golf thread, so, you know.  :impatient:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 09, 2014, 04:26:21 PM
I played golf last thrursday. 3 pars and 1 birdie.  :gocho:

Is it possible to Luke oneself? honest question.
Yes, but, nobody checks out the business golf thread, so, you know.  :impatient:

 :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 11, 2014, 11:14:47 AM
Westport Cafe and Bar reported that its sales were up 30 percent in the first quarter compared with the same period in 2013. Kelly’s Westport Inn, which opened in 1947, went from “horrible” sales for the two years following the Power & Light District’s opening to record years in 2012 and 2013, according to the owners. This year is setting up to be another good one.

“We’ve had our highs and lows — mobs and mobs and mobs of people that would gather on the weekend; crime was really bad,” Garrelts of Bluestem said. “But that has completely changed. It’s not just a bar neighborhood anymore. You are seeing BMWs, Mercedes and Johnson County people coming down.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article707295.html#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 11, 2014, 11:15:13 AM
Westport Cafe and Bar reported that its sales were up 30 percent in the first quarter compared with the same period in 2013. Kelly’s Westport Inn, which opened in 1947, went from “horrible” sales for the two years following the Power & Light District’s opening to record years in 2012 and 2013, according to the owners. This year is setting up to be another good one.

“We’ve had our highs and lows — mobs and mobs and mobs of people that would gather on the weekend; crime was really bad,” Garrelts of Bluestem said. “But that has completely changed. It’s not just a bar neighborhood anymore. You are seeing BMWs, Mercedes and Johnson County people coming down.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article707295.html#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2014, 11:58:00 AM
what a terrible quote to end that article
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
what a terrible quote to end that article
Garrelts is a stud though so whatevs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2014, 12:59:57 PM
what a terrible quote to end that article
Garrelts is a stud though so whatevs
i think Kelly's is doing well cause they charge black out ppl $45 for a single drink and then throw them out. :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 11, 2014, 01:02:31 PM
Yeah but I bet those Mercedes and BMWs still lock their doors while driving there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 11, 2014, 01:38:42 PM
what a terrible quote to end that article
Garrelts is a stud though so whatevs
i think Kelly's is doing well cause they charge black out ppl $45 for a single drink and then throw them out. :curse:

Every bar should do this, learn how to control yourself
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 11, 2014, 01:46:12 PM
Disregard if luked,

https://fierystickopen.splashthat.com/

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 11, 2014, 02:07:52 PM
"pop up" - a term for people that cant come up with long term business plans
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2014, 02:09:25 PM
"pop up" - a term for people that cant come up with long term business plans

port fonda
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 11, 2014, 02:10:21 PM
"pop up" - a term for people that cant come up with long term business plans

old man outed.  stay at your button up country club gramps!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
you know what bar is super fun? gusto.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 11, 2014, 04:01:52 PM
you know what bar is super fun? gusto.

It was the easiest place to get a drink last time I was in Westport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 11, 2014, 04:41:35 PM
"pop up" - a term for people that cant come up with long term business plans

port fonda

Food truck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2014, 05:14:43 PM

"pop up" - a term for people that cant come up with long term business plans

port fonda

Food truck
have done pop ups
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 12, 2014, 12:27:34 PM
Lazlo got his contract renewed!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 12, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
Slimfast too? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 12, 2014, 12:54:05 PM
Slimfast too?
Lazlo is his Boss, so I'm sure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 12, 2014, 02:44:08 PM
Disregard if luked,

https://fierystickopen.splashthat.com/

I think I'm in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 16, 2014, 03:33:06 PM
@j-dub alert!

http://timmooneyrep.com/fringe/kcf.html (http://timmooneyrep.com/fringe/kcf.html)

http://www.kcfringe.org/ (http://www.kcfringe.org/)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 16, 2014, 07:48:20 PM
@j-dub alert!

http://timmooneyrep.com/fringe/kcf.html (http://timmooneyrep.com/fringe/kcf.html)

http://www.kcfringe.org/ (http://www.kcfringe.org/)

oh man  :love:

hey spracs, wanna go on a totally casual bro's date or whatev  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 16, 2014, 08:01:42 PM
@j-dub alert!

http://timmooneyrep.com/fringe/kcf.html (http://timmooneyrep.com/fringe/kcf.html)

http://www.kcfringe.org/ (http://www.kcfringe.org/)

oh man  :love:

hey spracs, wanna go on a totally casual bro's date or whatev  :D

Nah, I probably won't find myself in KC but for a funeral, and I don't anticipate one soon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on July 16, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
@j-dub alert!

http://timmooneyrep.com/fringe/kcf.html (http://timmooneyrep.com/fringe/kcf.html)

http://www.kcfringe.org/ (http://www.kcfringe.org/)

oh man  :love:

hey spracs, wanna go on a totally casual bro's date or whatev  :D

Nah, I probably won't find myself in KC but for a funeral, and I don't anticipate one soon.

 :frown: how many rejections am i gonna have to take in crazy mixed up world
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 19, 2014, 02:49:21 AM
Disregard if luked,

https://fierystickopen.splashthat.com/

I think I'm in.

This was actually pretty fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2014, 10:41:22 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article832996.html

 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 30, 2014, 10:52:37 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article832996.html

 :love:

That story being front page of kansascity.com is definitely "Kansas City things"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 30, 2014, 11:08:57 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article832996.html

 :love:

i enjoyed reading about his Austin bbq experiences a week or so ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 30, 2014, 11:35:53 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article832996.html

 :love:

That story being front page of kansascity.com is definitely "Kansas City things"

yeah a city focusing on its food is pretty unique to kansas city, i agree
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 31, 2014, 09:27:16 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article832996.html

 :love:

That story being front page of kansascity.com is definitely "Kansas City things"

yeah a city focusing on its food is pretty unique to kansas city, i agree

Or Paris, but ya okay.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on July 31, 2014, 10:49:55 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article832996.html

 :love:

That story being front page of kansascity.com is definitely "Kansas City things"

yeah a city focusing on its food is pretty unique to kansas city, i agree

Or Paris, but ya okay.
In case you didn't know, Kansas city is the Paris of the plains.  Not kidding.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/31/ery4a3us.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 10:53:35 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 31, 2014, 04:50:52 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article832996.html

 :love:

That story being front page of kansascity.com is definitely "Kansas City things"

yeah a city focusing on its food is pretty unique to kansas city, i agree

Obsessing that someone ordered BBQ isn't focusing on its food I... M.....O
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: OK_Cat on August 01, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
the wife wants to take our kid to that great wolf lodge place during fall break.  if we stayed more than one night, would we get bored?  seems like it would be a good one-night place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 01:46:11 PM
the wife wants to take our kid to that great wolf lodge place during fall break.  if we stayed more than one night, would we get bored?  seems like it would be a good one-night place.
Not sure. It looks fun. You should take in a sporting game too if you're going to stay there. Just my  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 01, 2014, 01:47:27 PM
I bet your kids would be cool with more than one but I doubt you would, assuming that you just want to stay close and aren't addicted to gambling.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: OK_Cat on August 01, 2014, 01:52:44 PM
rather kill myself than to watch a soccer game, fanning.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
rather kill myself than to watch a soccer game, fanning.
I thought the same thing until I went, ok cat. Just trying to help.  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 01, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
two nights would be fine. work in a movie, shopping, dave & busters, just go all out ya know.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: OK_Cat on August 01, 2014, 01:59:44 PM
the only reason i said yes was because it's all on one location.  i don't want to go anywhere else, just hang there for however many days and then go home. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on August 01, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
Yeah you will spend lots of money because it's all shopping and restaurants and things to take your money. But the kids will have fun in the water park. And mrs OK will like shopping.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-suspect-paid-prostitutes-bellagio-cash-24760985

http://www.kctv5.com/story/26167346/overland-park-man-accused-of-robbing-bellagio-spending-it-on-prostitutes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on August 01, 2014, 02:59:51 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-suspect-paid-prostitutes-bellagio-cash-24760985

Watched this on local news... Holy crazy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 01, 2014, 03:19:36 PM
holy crap that guy is from here? :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 01, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
the wife wants to take our kid to that great wolf lodge place during fall break.  if we stayed more than one night, would we get bored?  seems like it would be a good one-night place.

You will be bored.  Kids maybe not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 01, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
the wife wants to take our kid to that great wolf lodge place during fall break.  if we stayed more than one night, would we get bored?  seems like it would be a good one-night place.

think there is a bar by the outdoor pool  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on August 01, 2014, 08:06:42 PM
The dobber family is doing one night at GWL on Sunday night (that's what the wife and kids told me tonight). I am ready to go! Woot woot!


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on August 01, 2014, 08:15:12 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-suspect-paid-prostitutes-bellagio-cash-24760985

Watched this on local news... Holy crazy.

While I don't condone armed robbery that guy should be commended for living life to the fullest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 12, 2014, 10:08:26 PM
didn't know or remember that dave attell did an episode of insomniacs here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYMu1L1TEuk
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYMu1L1TEuk)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 12, 2014, 10:27:47 PM
didn't know or remember that dave attell did an episode of insomniacs here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYMu1L1TEuk
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYMu1L1TEuk)

dave attell related:  heard jim flourentine  (sp?) and some other comic talking on the radio (not kc radio) and they both agreed that overland park has the hottest girls in the country.  was weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 12, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
didn't know or remember that dave attell did an episode of insomniacs here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYMu1L1TEuk
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYMu1L1TEuk)

that was a great show....Bourdain's KC show was pretty good as well and hit some great places.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 12, 2014, 10:35:23 PM
Wow! That's a KC I never knew.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 12, 2014, 10:54:54 PM
Wow! That's a KC I never knew.

went out to westport that night because i knew he'd be out, but never did see him  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 12, 2014, 11:00:07 PM
Wow! That's a KC I never knew.

went out to westport that night because i knew he'd be out, but never did see him  :frown:

The night Bourdain was here I almost randomly went to Cigar Box and he ended up there....I would have went 100% fanboy seeing him the same bar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2014, 12:00:30 AM
i don't think i've seen the bourdain thing.  i'm not really a fan of his.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on August 13, 2014, 11:59:36 AM

Wow! That's a KC I never knew.

went out to westport that night because i knew he'd be out, but never did see him  :frown:

The night Bourdain was here I almost randomly went to Cigar Box and he ended up there....I would have went 100% fanboy seeing him the same bar.
:peek:
I was at the box that night. A guy a kind of know passed out standing up and fell on one of his tv crew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 13, 2014, 12:12:00 PM
i know someone that was at the cigar box that night too. sheesh everyone but me was there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 13, 2014, 12:41:53 PM
i don't think i've seen the bourdain thing.  i'm not really a fan of his.

He is like my idol. Love to be doing what he is doing... Travel the world, be snarky, get loaded... And paid.

Search travel channel no reservations Kansas City and clips should appear. Went to a ton of BBQ, hung out with the black keys, Cigar box, town topic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
"red Friday" Polo Shirt in the office for preseason football.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 15, 2014, 02:47:29 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/museum-proudly-exhibits-picasso-shitty-enough-to-b,36703/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on August 16, 2014, 11:56:05 PM
I'm going to Gates tomorrow. Anybody want to Go?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 17, 2014, 08:58:57 AM
go to q39
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on August 17, 2014, 11:08:24 AM
in case you guys didn't notice, clams is part owner of q39
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 17, 2014, 11:15:14 AM
is crack
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on August 18, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
go to q39

Okay. What should I get?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 18, 2014, 12:59:42 PM
The new Grinders at 103rd and Pflumm is pretty neat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on August 18, 2014, 01:39:49 PM
go to q39

Okay. What should I get?

Hey, 'meister!

I suggest you get "The Judges Plate" your first time going. It's a great way to sample what they're all about and is delicious.

Their take on the Z-man concept is the Pitmaster Brisket sandwich...also very good.

I haven't tried it yet, but the burnt-end burger is supposedly very tasty, too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 18, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
good advice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on August 18, 2014, 02:50:05 PM
One of my favorite KC things is getting dinner and a few beers with the bros (or gals, too, i guess) at BB's Lawnside while taking in some great blues. Anyone else enjoy a good show at BB's?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 18, 2014, 02:54:19 PM

One of my favorite KC things is getting dinner and a few beers with the bros (or gals, too, i guess) at BB's Lawnside while taking in some great blues. Anyone else enjoy a good show at BB's?

I have never been.  I really should.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on August 18, 2014, 03:38:53 PM

go to q39

Okay. What should I get?

Hey, 'meister!

I suggest you get "The Judges Plate" your first time going. It's a great way to sample what they're all about and is delicious.

Their take on the Z-man concept is the Pitmaster Brisket sandwich...also very good.

I haven't tried it yet, but the burnt-end burger is supposedly very tasty, too.

Potentially going Wednesday, will have to try! TY!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on August 18, 2014, 03:53:16 PM


go to q39

Okay. What should I get?

Hey, 'meister!

I suggest you get "The Judges Plate" your first time going. It's a great way to sample what they're all about and is delicious.

Their take on the Z-man concept is the Pitmaster Brisket sandwich...also very good.

I haven't tried it yet, but the burnt-end burger is supposedly very tasty, too.

Potentially going Wednesday, will have to try! TY!

Haha, nice. I'm actually going Wed night with my sister's boyfriend.

:cheers:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on August 19, 2014, 12:32:18 PM


go to q39

Okay. What should I get?

Hey, 'meister!

I suggest you get "The Judges Plate" your first time going. It's a great way to sample what they're all about and is delicious.

Their take on the Z-man concept is the Pitmaster Brisket sandwich...also very good.

I haven't tried it yet, but the burnt-end burger is supposedly very tasty, too.

Potentially going Wednesday, will have to try! TY!

Haha, nice. I'm actually going Wed night with my sister's boyfriend.

:cheers:


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 :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 19, 2014, 10:00:05 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/realestate/commercial/millennials-going-to-kansas-city-to-live-and-work.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 19, 2014, 10:28:22 PM
bob berkebile is a douche
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 19, 2014, 10:31:03 PM
bob berkebile is a douche

Probably...don't care!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on August 19, 2014, 10:45:36 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/realestate/commercial/millennials-going-to-kansas-city-to-live-and-work.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0

no offense to kc but that article is bullshit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 19, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
http://findingkansascity.com/lists/kansas-city-t-shirts

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 19, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/realestate/commercial/millennials-going-to-kansas-city-to-live-and-work.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0

no offense to kc but that article is bullshit

How so?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 19, 2014, 11:03:42 PM
http://findingkansascity.com/lists/kansas-city-t-shirts

 :D

Bunker has some great ones as well not mentioned in that article
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on August 19, 2014, 11:27:38 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/realestate/commercial/millennials-going-to-kansas-city-to-live-and-work.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0

no offense to kc but that article is bullshit

How so?

by trying to paint a picture of a thriving downtown real estate market which is bullshit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 19, 2014, 11:51:19 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/realestate/commercial/millennials-going-to-kansas-city-to-live-and-work.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0

no offense to kc but that article is bullshit

How so?

by trying to paint a picture of a thriving downtown real estate market which is bullshit

Commercial residential real estate is thriving. Isn't that all the article spoke about?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on August 20, 2014, 04:25:56 AM
The new Grinders at 103rd and Pflumm is pretty neat.

Didn't know it finally opened. Then again Grinders is WITB at social media. Looks like I know where I'm going for lunch today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 20, 2014, 07:44:24 AM
http://findingkansascity.com/lists/kansas-city-t-shirts

 :D

i want to punch these people in their faces
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 20, 2014, 07:45:09 AM
http://findingkansascity.com/lists/kansas-city-t-shirts

 :D

i want to punch these people in their faces

you don't love all those shirts that they love?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 20, 2014, 08:13:55 AM
no, man. 
accompanied by a winter hat in the summer time that's barely stuck on their head (http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/lenydiaz/D65-best-beanies-skulls.jpg), these shirts are the official kc "i'm in my early/mid 20's and going to walk around westport" uniforms
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2014, 08:14:47 AM
no, man. 
accompanied by a winter hat in the summer time that's barely stuck on their head, these shirts are the official kc "i'm in my early/mid 20's and going to walk around westport" uniforms

I'm excited to finally see some civic pride around here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 20, 2014, 08:15:31 AM
no, man. 
accompanied by a winter hat in the summer time that's barely stuck on their head, these shirts are the official kc "i'm in my early/mid 20's and going to walk around westport" uniforms

I'm excited to finally see some civic pride around here.

enjoy the fad while it lasts then
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 20, 2014, 08:24:14 AM
punch me in the face for posting a link to gawker but it's appropriate
http://gawker.com/kansas-citys-urban-core-has-become-known-as-a-cool-pla-1624361762

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on August 20, 2014, 08:37:51 AM
go to q39

Okay. What should I get?

Hey, 'meister!

I suggest you get "The Judges Plate" your first time going. It's a great way to sample what they're all about and is delicious.

Their take on the Z-man concept is the Pitmaster Brisket sandwich...also very good.

I haven't tried it yet, but the burnt-end burger is supposedly very tasty, too.

I had the burnt end burger. Can confirm it is good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on August 20, 2014, 08:38:38 AM

go to q39

Okay. What should I get?

Hey, 'meister!

I suggest you get "The Judges Plate" your first time going. It's a great way to sample what they're all about and is delicious.

Their take on the Z-man concept is the Pitmaster Brisket sandwich...also very good.

I haven't tried it yet, but the burnt-end burger is supposedly very tasty, too.

I had the burnt end burger. Can confirm it is good.
:cheers:

I'm going tonight and might have to try it out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on August 20, 2014, 08:44:53 AM
punch me in the face for posting a link to gawker but it's appropriate
http://gawker.com/kansas-citys-urban-core-has-become-known-as-a-cool-pla-1624361762

Maybe the recent problems in St. Louis has tricked the national media into loving KC. Good job whoever planned this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
The new Grinders at 103rd and Pflumm is pretty neat.

Didn't know it finally opened. Then again Grinders is WITB at social media. Looks like I know where I'm going for lunch today
I think they do that to stay edgy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2014, 09:51:38 AM
Nothing says edgy like Lenexa KS and desires to franchise Grinders regionally. Stretch is such a tool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 20, 2014, 09:56:11 AM
Lenexa is the new Waldo. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on August 20, 2014, 10:41:49 AM
no, man. 
accompanied by a winter hat in the summer time that's barely stuck on their head, these shirts are the official kc "i'm in my early/mid 20's and going to walk around westport" uniforms

I'm excited to finally see some civic pride around here.

enjoy the fad while it lasts then

I never knew we had such a thriving middle-aged straight edge scene.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/bunkerbusters_2268_25942301)

STAY TRUE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 20, 2014, 11:16:30 AM
another uniform
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 20, 2014, 11:18:11 AM

no, man. 
accompanied by a winter hat in the summer time that's barely stuck on their head, these shirts are the official kc "i'm in my early/mid 20's and going to walk around westport" uniforms

I'm excited to finally see some civic pride around here.

enjoy the fad while it lasts then

I never knew we had such a thriving middle-aged straight edge scene.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/bunkerbusters_2268_25942301)

STAY TRUE
fwiw I went to the 7 Seconds show at czar bar last month and couldn't find anyone familiar with the term, straight edge.  seemed odd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 20, 2014, 11:35:55 AM
fwiw I went to the 7 Seconds show at czar bar last month and couldn't find anyone familiar with the term, straight edge.  seemed odd

i would say you must have been talking to a bunch of squares, but that obviously couldn't be true
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 20, 2014, 12:17:03 PM
fwiw I went to the 7 Seconds show at czar bar last month and couldn't find anyone familiar with the term, straight edge.  seemed odd

i would say you must have been talking to a bunch of squares, but that obviously couldn't be true


ba dum psshh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on August 20, 2014, 01:03:32 PM
Other than goE products, I hadn't bought a t-shirt in probably 5 years. I've bought 3 over the past year; all KC-centric, all made by local folks (none of the shirts featured in the article). I usually dress up more, but it's nice to have a good-looking t to wear when it's super-cashz time. The Bunker and KC heart tees, like the Baldwin ballcaps, are definitely faddish and overdone (esp Baldwin), but at least they've spurred other local designers and companies to create different KC-centric designs. It's nice to be able to support local businesses and find some non-Royals KC apparel that's not garish red and yellow.

It's kind of like bandwagon fans when your team starts winning: annoying, but in the end I'm glad to have them, because it means something's going right for something I love.

Gotta try to get to q39 sometime in the next week. Hearing nothing but good things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on August 20, 2014, 01:04:32 PM
http://findingkansascity.com/lists/kansas-city-t-shirts

 :D
Sandlot goods people are good people, selling some high quality leather.  However, I don't see myself in a deep v neck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on August 20, 2014, 02:17:42 PM

fwiw I went to the 7 Seconds show at czar bar last month and couldn't find anyone familiar with the term, straight edge.  seemed odd
well, you were in a bar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2014, 05:04:56 PM
Did you guys see the baseball shirt with wheat for stitching?   :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 20, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
I want a t-shirt with a picture of Sly on it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
I want a shirt that has this:

KC > STL

I mean it's really no question these days.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2014, 07:44:07 PM
I want a shirt that has this:

KC > STL

I mean it's really no question these days.  :D

Really not even in the same equation anymore....T&Ps to those kids over there though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on August 20, 2014, 07:54:31 PM
Lenexa is the new Waldo.

Been saying it for years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 21, 2014, 11:41:58 AM
Anyone been to Open Fire Pizza near Westport?  Good?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on August 21, 2014, 11:45:27 AM
Anyone been to Open Fire Pizza near Westport?  Good?

Closed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 21, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Anyone been to Open Fire Pizza near Westport?  Good?

Closed.

so not good, thanks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 21, 2014, 12:17:58 PM
ya it wasn't good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2014, 12:48:38 PM
(http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/j0qjuf/picture1275247/alternates/FREE_960/Anubis.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on August 22, 2014, 12:58:21 PM
You know whose jersey the Patriots would have put up?

Grankh  :Ugh:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on August 22, 2014, 01:00:51 PM
ya, at least it wasn't an Alex Smith jersey
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2014, 01:06:37 PM
You know whose jersey the Patriots would have put up?

Grankh  :Ugh:

1.5 tacos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rough Rider on August 22, 2014, 01:08:40 PM
You know whose jersey the Patriots would have put up?

Grankh  :Ugh:

1.5 tacos

What?! Spracne is the Bastet this game!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slimz on August 22, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
You know whose jersey the Patriots would have put up?

Grankh  :Ugh:

1.5 tacos

What?! Spracne is the Bastet this game!

When the exhibit stops in St. Louis they can put up some of the Rams'es jerseys.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2014, 01:29:37 PM
I guess this is a Kansas City thing. They're currently doing construction on 75th st (closed north bound), 87th st, and 95th street right now. What does that mean? It's a rough ridin' cluster eff on I-35 and my surrounding areas at work.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2014, 01:31:37 PM
75th st (closed north bound)

i think 75th st is always closed north bound  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on August 22, 2014, 01:33:33 PM
I guess this is a Kansas City thing. They're currently doing construction on 75th st (closed north bound), 87th st, and 95th street right now. What does that mean? It's a rough ridin' cluster eff on I-35 and my surrounding areas at work.  :curse:


Yup, road construction is totally unique to Kansas City. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2014, 01:36:24 PM
I guess this is a Kansas City thing. They're currently doing construction on 75th st (closed north bound), 87th st, and 95th street right now. What does that mean? It's a rough ridin' cluster eff on I-35 and my surrounding areas at work.  :curse:


Yup, road construction is totally unique to Kansas City.
It's a thing right now, crap face!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2014, 01:36:58 PM
75th st (closed north bound)

i think 75th st is always closed north bound  :lol:
It's not tho and you know what I meant! :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2014, 01:43:39 PM
75th st (closed north bound)

i think 75th st is always closed north bound  :lol:
It's not tho and you know what I meant! :shakesfist:

i still don't know what you meant  :lol:

75th st goes east-west
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2014, 01:44:51 PM
75th st (closed north bound)

i think 75th st is always closed north bound  :lol:
It's not tho and you know what I meant! :shakesfist:

i still don't know what you meant  :lol:

75th st goes east-west
I said off I-35. Driving North on I-35 past 75th st.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2014, 01:47:15 PM
I said off I-35. Driving North on I-35 past 75th st.  :curse:

I guess this is a Kansas City thing. They're currently doing construction on 75th st (closed north bound), 87th st, and 95th street right now. What does that mean? It's a rough ridin' cluster eff on I-35 and my surrounding areas at work.  :curse:

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2014, 01:48:24 PM
Who's on first?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on August 22, 2014, 01:50:34 PM
I guess this is a Kansas City thing. They're currently doing construction on 75th st (closed north bound), 87th st, and 95th street right now. What does that mean? It's a rough ridin' cluster eff on I-35 and my surrounding areas at work.  :curse:


Yup, road construction is totally unique to Kansas City.
It's a thing right now, crap face!


Kansas City's other nickname right behind City of Fountains is City of Orange Barrels.  True story.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 04, 2014, 04:45:44 PM
evidently there is a woman with a rifle walking around JCCC right now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 04, 2014, 04:47:03 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/26451714/report-of-person-with-weapon-forces-johnson-county-college-lockdown (http://www.kctv5.com/story/26451714/report-of-person-with-weapon-forces-johnson-county-college-lockdown)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2014, 04:49:07 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/26451714/report-of-person-with-weapon-forces-johnson-county-college-lockdown (http://www.kctv5.com/story/26451714/report-of-person-with-weapon-forces-johnson-county-college-lockdown)
It's really helping business on my end today!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 04, 2014, 04:51:55 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/26451714/report-of-person-with-weapon-forces-johnson-county-college-lockdown (http://www.kctv5.com/story/26451714/report-of-person-with-weapon-forces-johnson-county-college-lockdown)
It's really helping business on my end today!

:clac:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 04, 2014, 05:01:45 PM
t's and p's to all ku fans  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 04, 2014, 05:03:07 PM
t's and p's to all ku fans  :D

Hopefully the authorities get this guy waving the wheat with all weapons on the ground real quickly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 04, 2014, 05:03:51 PM
t's and p's to all ku fans  :D

Hopefully the authorities get this guy girl waving the wheat with all weapons on the ground real quickly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 04, 2014, 05:04:48 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2014, 10:23:34 PM
Two KC things today:

- New BBQ place heading to downtown

- Learned today that the baker at Sasha's Bakery downtown (provider of my fine breads and desserts at tailgates) is EMAW!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on September 17, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
heard The Brooksider is closing?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 18, 2014, 07:30:49 AM
heard The Brooksider is closing?

Think it's a liquor license problem.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 18, 2014, 07:31:10 AM
heard The Brooksider is closing?

closing but reopening

remedy is also gone.  both places pretty much suck balls, so shucks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 18, 2014, 09:25:29 AM
remedy made a pretty great $14 mule if you're into that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 18, 2014, 01:57:52 PM
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10606408_545770482190420_3664264383726813738_n.jpg?oh=c680210e4799cf227fe2c92f13a5fd14&oe=54C62EFC)

Remedy was just too far ahead of us hayseeds in Waldo. We weren't ready for such sophistication.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 18, 2014, 01:59:19 PM
probably had zero flavors of sunflower seeds on the menu
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 18, 2014, 02:01:53 PM
jesus christ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 18, 2014, 02:04:52 PM
well in their defense, it was pretty weird for KC'rs to walk into a restaurant and be seated in a delorean instead of a table or booth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 18, 2014, 02:07:46 PM
Its like a list of ways to be a douchebox
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 18, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
i never understood why Kennedy's left anyway. i have great memories watching Frank's cats lose to Syracuse on St Patrick's day. that space is pretty cool when they have the entire walls open to outside air
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on September 19, 2014, 03:36:01 AM
Waldo is gross. While Westport goes through a renaissance Waldo is in the corner shitting itself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on September 19, 2014, 04:43:48 AM
Waldo is gross. While Westport goes through a renaissance Waldo is in the corner shitting itself.

I'd like to go to Waldo more often
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on September 19, 2014, 05:58:35 AM
That was the smuggiest thing I've ever read
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 19, 2014, 09:36:49 AM
How progressive of them to have horribly  slow service and a meh menu. They had burger modifiers.... We weren't ready.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2014, 05:09:34 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/26/americas-top-5-cities-to-keep-on-your-radar_n_5811822.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2014, 05:14:30 PM
What is a burger modifier?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2014, 05:15:07 PM
What is a burger modifier?

pro tip: you aren't ready
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on October 01, 2014, 05:16:55 PM
What is a burger modifier?

pro tip: you aren't ready

I'm obviously not ready either, but I'd like to know what I'm not ready for...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2014, 05:17:56 PM
I'm 100 percent confident I'm not ready, but #knowledgeispower
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 01, 2014, 05:52:15 PM
What is a burger modifier?

Bacon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2014, 06:06:18 PM
Whoa
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2014, 06:14:30 PM
What is a burger modifier?

Bacon

sounds a little advanced for Waldo. Next time, they should try such a bold move somewhere more sophisticated, perhaps Brookside or Martini Corner.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 01, 2014, 06:18:15 PM
Remedy sucked. I bud of mine loved going there and always forced me to tag along. It was always dead and way overpriced. Still not sure how/why kennedy's closed, it was always packed. just a mystery of life I guess.

I live in waldo and I rarely go out in waldo, if I do it's to 75th street or bier station (I live across the street  :gocho: ) I wouldn't classify going to bier station as "going out" tho, but I do binge there on a weekly basis.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 01, 2014, 07:17:22 PM
I would never go to Brookside or Waldo unless I wanted to get mugged and shot like Swayze (badass) in Ghost
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on October 01, 2014, 07:28:10 PM
You could go there and clean up a crap hole area like Swayze (badass) in Roadhouse. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 01, 2014, 07:30:51 PM
The roadhouse in roadhouse has a pretty bad rep, apparently.   It looked fine to me prior to Swayze's dumbass interference.   Now, waldo on the other hand....its too bad Swayze isnt with us any more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on October 01, 2014, 07:33:06 PM
The roadhouse in roadhouse has a pretty bad rep, apparently.   It looked fine to me prior to Swayze's dumbass interference. 

They were throwing beer bottles at a blind guy in a cage CNS.  What the hell is wrong with you man? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bones129 on October 01, 2014, 07:35:27 PM
Opinions vary.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 01, 2014, 07:41:48 PM
Finally had q39 tonight. Yum!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 01, 2014, 07:47:33 PM
The roadhouse in roadhouse has a pretty bad rep, apparently.   It looked fine to me prior to Swayze's dumbass interference. 

They were throwing beer bottles at a blind guy in a cage CNS.  What the hell is wrong with you man?

Equal treatment is what ppl w disabilities want, Bread. A shitty singer should be treated as a shitty singer blind or no.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on October 01, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
I see what this is now.  You hate Patrick because he was an incredibly beautiful normal sized man and you will never know that joy.  So you lash out a a blind guy in a cage who happens to be a fantastic musician irl.  Really poor form. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 01, 2014, 08:01:14 PM
No body puts Heley in a corner, huh?  Swazey typecast himself.  Sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on October 01, 2014, 08:10:15 PM
Ghost, Dirty Dancing, Roadhouse and Donnie Darko.  You're making a fool of yourself. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2014, 08:13:53 PM
Point break
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2014, 08:14:19 PM
11:14
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
chowder blue (maybe his greatest role)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 01, 2014, 08:16:26 PM
I have not heard of a couple of those.   Not gE'ing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2014, 08:18:54 PM
You are missing out on a lot. Especially chowder blue
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 01, 2014, 10:38:28 PM
I would never go to Brookside or Waldo unless I wanted to get mugged and shot like Swayze (badass) in Ghost

This dude's bro lives in Waldo and I'm 110% serious

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7a/Rick_Aviles.jpg/220px-Rick_Aviles.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 02, 2014, 08:27:26 AM
I would never go to Brookside or Waldo unless I wanted to get mugged and shot like Swayze (badass) in Ghost

This dude's bro lives in Waldo and I'm 110% serious

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7a/Rick_Aviles.jpg/220px-Rick_Aviles.jpg)

if that's true then i'd go like Swayze in Red Dawn and violate the Geneva Convention on his ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 02, 2014, 09:18:24 AM
Wolverines don't sign no stinking treaties!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 07, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
does anyone know wtf happened to the mcdonalds on 43rd and rainbow??!! :runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 07, 2014, 12:52:29 PM
did it close?  wtf, why would it close?  5 guys take their business? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 07, 2014, 12:54:19 PM
Did we ever talk about the brooksider closing down?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 07, 2014, 12:56:14 PM
Did we ever talk about the brooksider closing down?

yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 07, 2014, 12:57:56 PM
did it close?  wtf, why would it close?  5 guys take their business?

it didn't close. it vanished.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 07, 2014, 01:07:16 PM
They are prob rebuilding as a new McD's.  There was one near my work that did the same thing.  Blew me away.  I would think they could find a way to renovate the thing while still slinging diabetes, but no.  Closed and the building was leveled with in like three days and the site was rebuilt and back up in about 3 months.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 07, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
They are prob rebuilding as a new McD's.  There was one near my work that did the same thing.  Blew me away.  I would think they could find a way to renovate the thing while still singing diabetes, but no.  Closed and the building was leveled with in like three days and the site was rebuilt and back up in about 3 months.

would be my guess, too. that place was a shithole even by mcdonalds standards.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 07, 2014, 01:13:58 PM
They are prob rebuilding as a new McD's.  There was one near my work that did the same thing.  Blew me away.  I would think they could find a way to renovate the thing while still singing diabetes, but no.  Closed and the building was leveled with in like three days and the site was rebuilt and back up in about 3 months.

would be my guess, too. that place was a shithole even by mcdonalds standards.

McDonalds has very high standards, dildo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2014, 05:20:43 PM
does anyone know wtf happened to the mcdonalds on 43rd and rainbow??!! :runaway:

OMG someone plz respond
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 07, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
does anyone know wtf happened to the mcdonalds on 43rd and rainbow??!! :runaway:

OMG someone plz respond

i drove by one day and then two days later there was absolutely nothing there. ever heard of aliens?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2014, 05:31:52 PM
This is unacceptable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 07, 2014, 05:54:47 PM
That mcd's had a step down area, probably an ADA no no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 07, 2014, 07:53:54 PM
That mcd's had a step down area, probably an ADA no no

HKCMcDIQ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 07, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
That mcd's had a step down area, probably an ADA no no
end of an era
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Obama might lose my vote over this  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 08, 2014, 06:15:24 AM
The roadhouse in roadhouse has a pretty bad rep, apparently.   It looked fine to me prior to Swayze's dumbass interference.   Now, waldo on the other hand....its too bad Swayze isnt with us any more.

:peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 23, 2014, 08:48:49 PM
Tom+Chee opening at 119th and Black Bob tomorrow.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 24, 2014, 12:11:09 PM
so the savoy got all burned up?  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 24, 2014, 12:12:52 PM
$5 burger week is pretty nice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on October 24, 2014, 12:51:33 PM
Dining/drinking at Lidia's this evening. Never been.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 24, 2014, 01:28:20 PM
Dining/drinking at Lidia's this evening. Never been.

It's great.  Have fun AJ. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2014, 01:29:34 PM
Dining/drinking at Lidia's this evening. Never been.
meh, but have fun
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 24, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
Dining/drinking at Lidia's this evening. Never been.

i have been twice and the first time i liked it a lot. the 2nd time i thought it was terrible. it depends on the pastas available for the pasta trio
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 24, 2014, 04:31:35 PM
I am pretty meh on most Italian.   Lidias was super good the three times I have been, though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
if you're a massive dumb eff you will love the joint
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 24, 2014, 04:41:03 PM
For the most part, I agree that ppl who pay good restaurant prices for Italian food are massive dumb fucks.  Lydias is really good, though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2014, 05:06:16 PM
so the savoy got all burned up?  :frown:

Should be fine.  Hopefully 21C hotel renovations get sped up now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2014, 12:00:19 PM
boner alert (if you fancy kansas city or bob dylan or mumford & sons or johnny depp)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MwOarNpBcw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MwOarNpBcw&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on November 06, 2014, 12:29:38 AM
boner alert (if you fancy kansas city or bob dylan or mumford & sons or johnny depp)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MwOarNpBcw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MwOarNpBcw&feature=youtu.be)

its my song, mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on November 12, 2014, 03:26:34 PM
@kcfdcat !!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/11/11/double-shift-brewing-crossroads-beer-scene.html?ana=e_du_pub&s=article_du&ed=2014-11-11&u=M0KgzkPRshJ9dbddzjqzkA04d9d7db&t=1415824008&page=2
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 12, 2014, 03:35:28 PM
Have you guys been downtown lately? Double rough ridin' woof! They got that street train or whatever it's called and everything is either "road closed" or one-way. It takes me 15 minutes to get from Cosentinos to quality hill for crying out loud. The worst part of it, is this thing is only going from the River Market to Crown Center. What a waste of taxpayers $.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2014, 03:40:35 PM
you should be walking from quality hill to cosentinos.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 12, 2014, 03:43:00 PM
you should be walking from quality hill to cosentinos.
I usually do. However, when I get off work, I either go workout or pick up something real quick from cosentinos if we don't have any food in the house. It's more convenient to drive by on your way home. It's easier to walk there on the weekend tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2014, 04:36:43 PM
@kcfdcat !!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/11/11/double-shift-brewing-crossroads-beer-scene.html?ana=e_du_pub&s=article_du&ed=2014-11-11&u=M0KgzkPRshJ9dbddzjqzkA04d9d7db&t=1415824008&page=2

 :thumbs:

Note: there is a factual error in there, I did not study architecture at KSU. Not sure how/why he thought that.

I also don't appreciate that he called my building ugly. Come on,  guy, have some respect.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 12, 2014, 04:47:55 PM
thats exciting, KCFD. do you have enough help to get this thing rolling?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on November 12, 2014, 04:53:08 PM
@kcfdcat !!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/11/11/double-shift-brewing-crossroads-beer-scene.html?ana=e_du_pub&s=article_du&ed=2014-11-11&u=M0KgzkPRshJ9dbddzjqzkA04d9d7db&t=1415824008&page=2

 :thumbs:

Note: there is a factual error in there, I did not study architecture at KSU. Not sure how/why he thought that.

I also don't appreciate that he called my building ugly. Come on,  guy, have some respect.
Gets some @'s and we can go to work on this joker for you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on November 12, 2014, 04:54:43 PM
it's @DornzKCBJ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2014, 04:55:45 PM
thats exciting, KCFD. do you have enough help to get this thing rolling?

Pretty much. Unless you're a licensed plumber or electrician. Or possibly skilled at sanitary welding stainless steel???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 12, 2014, 04:56:00 PM
Gets some @'s and we can go to work on this joker for you.

wish there was a link under his name we could just click on
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2014, 04:57:08 PM
it's @DornzKCBJ

Oh Jesus guys, don't go all gE on this guy. Despite his inability to recollect facts, I actually need him to write positive articles about me...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 12, 2014, 04:57:21 PM
thats exciting, KCFD. do you have enough help to get this thing rolling?

Pretty much. Unless you're a licensed plumber or electrician. Or possibly skilled at sanitary welding stainless steel???

oh, no. im an investment broker, i just wanna make sure i can drink this beer soon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on November 12, 2014, 04:58:55 PM
it's @DornzKCBJ

(http://media.bizj.us/view/img/1211731/dornbrookjames-kcbj.jpg)

He's rough ridin' handsome as all get out. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2014, 04:59:03 PM
thats exciting, KCFD. do you have enough help to get this thing rolling?

Pretty much. Unless you're a licensed plumber or electrician. Or possibly skilled at sanitary welding stainless steel???

oh, no. im an investment broker, i just wanna make sure i can drink this beer soon.

Yeah, like April?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on November 12, 2014, 04:59:49 PM
does anyone know how to undo a tweet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on November 12, 2014, 05:00:09 PM
pretty awesome, kcfd :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2014, 05:00:48 PM
Border Brewing, which is right next door is opening soon and he is very emaw as well, so you should go there in the meantime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 12, 2014, 05:01:10 PM
it's @DornzKCBJ

Oh Jesus guys, don't go all gE on this guy. Despite his inability to recollect facts, I actually need him to write positive articles about me...
yes, respect KCFDcat wishes. Also, grats, bud!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on November 12, 2014, 05:01:43 PM
Gets some @'s and we can go to work on this joker for you.

wish there was a link under his name we could just click on
Who rough ridin' actually reads the articles you jokers post on this blob? Not this guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on November 12, 2014, 05:07:13 PM
Damn I didnt realize you were so young(or you're old and went back to school, my apologies)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 12, 2014, 05:18:56 PM
I will change your screen name to LeawoodFDcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 12, 2014, 05:24:49 PM
Belgian style beer is my favorite kind of beer. I can't wait!  :D :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2014, 05:43:02 PM

it's @DornzKCBJ

(http://media.bizj.us/view/img/1211731/dornbrookjames-kcbj.jpg)

He's rough ridin' handsome as all get out.
huge bee pollen guy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2014, 06:18:26 PM
Damn I didnt realize you were so young(or you're old and went back to school, my apologies)

Yup I'm young
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2014, 06:19:41 PM
I will change your screen name to LeawoodFDcat

Haha I moved from kc to Leawood a little bit ago and never changed my name here. Sorry dudes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 12, 2014, 10:15:28 PM
Have you guys been downtown lately? Double rough ridin' woof! They got that street train or whatever it's called and everything is either "road closed" or one-way. It takes me 15 minutes to get from Cosentinos to quality hill for crying out loud. The worst part of it, is this thing is only going from the River Market to Crown Center. What a waste of taxpayers $.  :curse:

Wacky NO!  Construction is a pain now but its going to be a pretty sweet amenity when done.  Can't wait.  Might punt my QH condo for one in crossroads because of it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 12, 2014, 10:24:58 PM
I know. I just think it would have been cooler if it would have been cleared to go all the way to Waldo like the original plan.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 12, 2014, 10:29:13 PM
I know. I just think it would have been cooler if it would have been cleared to go all the way to Waldo like the original plan.

Talk to BKS/Waldo people about that.  Got to start somewhere.  Get it running and people will want it down there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on November 12, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
@kcfdcat I meant to say earlier good luck with the brewery. I'm excited to try your beers. I'm a home brewer too and it's always exciting to see another home brewer make the jump to commercial.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 12, 2014, 11:24:16 PM
I would've used the hell out of that streetcar when I lived in the crossroads
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 12, 2014, 11:38:30 PM
How authentic will kcfd's place be?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 13, 2014, 08:48:06 AM
Have you guys been downtown lately? Double rough ridin' woof! They got that street train or whatever it's called and everything is either "road closed" or one-way. It takes me 15 minutes to get from Cosentinos to quality hill for crying out loud. The worst part of it, is this thing is only going from the River Market to Crown Center. What a waste of taxpayers $.  :curse:

Wacky NO!  Construction is a pain now but its going to be a pretty sweet amenity when done.  Can't wait.  Might punt my QH condo for one in crossroads because of it.

it's rough ridin' stupid and will be gone in 15 years
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 13, 2014, 08:59:46 AM
Pretty excited about these two EMAW breweries.  They are probably going to have to rename Crossroads as Aggieville East.  Congrats KCFDcat!   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on November 13, 2014, 09:02:30 AM
Very excited for you, KCFDcat.  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 13, 2014, 09:05:54 AM
:sdeek: KCFDCat was in my high school graduating class :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on November 13, 2014, 09:07:54 AM
buncha old people itt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2014, 09:45:26 AM
i just see the letters "KCFDcat" and i picture a burly man with a handlebar mustache, or at the very least, shoulder/upper arm hair
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 13, 2014, 09:59:59 AM
:sdeek: KCFDCat was in my high school graduating class :surprised:

Wut.  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 13, 2014, 10:01:46 AM
i just see the letters "KCFDcat" and i picture a burly man with a handlebar mustache, or at the very least, shoulder/upper arm hair

Well I am currently rocking a sweet handlebar stache. But I don't have any upper arm or shoulder hair. Sorry.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 13, 2014, 10:02:38 AM
i just see the letters "KCFDcat" and i picture a burly man with a handlebar mustache, or at the very least, shoulder/upper arm hair

yup, now tell us what you think of when you see the letters LEAWOODFDcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 13, 2014, 10:08:02 AM
:sdeek: KCFDCat was in my high school graduating class :surprised:

Wut.  :horrorsurprise:
Just sent you a Facebook friend request, LFDCat!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 13, 2014, 10:09:24 AM
:sdeek: KCFDCat was in my high school graduating class :surprised:

Wut.  :horrorsurprise:
Just sent you a Facebook friend request, LFDCat!

 :thumbs:  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on November 13, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
i just see the letters "KCFDcat" and i picture a burly man with a handlebar mustache, or at the very least, shoulder/upper arm hair

yup, now tell us what you think of when you see the letters LEAWOODFDcat
The most expensive domestic half ton money can buy in bright red
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2014, 10:46:35 AM
i just see the letters "KCFDcat" and i picture a burly man with a handlebar mustache, or at the very least, shoulder/upper arm hair

yup, now tell us what you think of when you see the letters LEAWOODFDcat

just a clean cut guy showing up to Cure of Ars in his never worn overalls to tell middle schoolers it's important to buckle up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 13, 2014, 12:25:35 PM
nailed it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 13, 2014, 01:23:54 PM
i just see the letters "KCFDcat" and i picture a burly man with a handlebar mustache, or at the very least, shoulder/upper arm hair

yup, now tell us what you think of when you see the letters LEAWOODFDcat

just a clean cut guy showing up to Cure of Ars in his never worn overalls to tell middle schoolers it's important to buckle up

^ this is pretty accurate for the most part.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ksuwizard on November 13, 2014, 01:33:57 PM
I know. I just think it would have been cooler if it would have been cleared to go all the way to Waldo like the original plan.


I do too, Wacky. I currently live in the Crossroads and can't wait to take the streetcar to the Westport, Plaza and Rivermarket. The construction is a pain now but totally going to be worth it. Love that KC is finally starting to turn into a real city. Maybe soon there will be people actually walking around on the sidewalks downtown in the evening!

And yes, the EMAW breweries are going to be awesome come 2015!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2014, 01:40:35 PM
Man I just caught up that a gE is opening double shift. That's awesome. Can't wait for double shift and border to open.... And the streetcar will help me get there more often!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 14, 2014, 10:09:51 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/26/americas-top-5-cities-to-keep-on-your-radar_n_5811822.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 20, 2014, 11:34:13 AM
buildings collapsing! the whole city is practically falling down around us!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 20, 2014, 11:36:03 AM
buildings collapsing! the whole city is practically falling down around us!!!
Wut? :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on November 20, 2014, 11:37:22 AM
https://twitter.com/BorderBrewCo/status/535478711953666048
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 20, 2014, 11:42:26 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on November 20, 2014, 11:57:30 AM
That was an ending to a high speed chase. SUV went right into it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 20, 2014, 12:01:37 PM
i hope nobody is hurt. KCFDcat did you order the hit on your competition? if so, not very leawoodfdcat of you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on November 20, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
i hope nobody is hurt. KCFDcat did you order the hit on your competition? if so, not very leawoodfdcat of you

Seemsmaybe a Border War a-brewin'  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 20, 2014, 12:03:43 PM
i hope nobody is hurt. KCFDcat did you order the hit on your competition? if so, not very leawoodfdcat of you

lol, the building was vacant. just a few old cars stored in there. me and the guys at border brewing are buds.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 20, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
i hope nobody is hurt. KCFDcat did you order the hit on your competition? if so, not very leawoodfdcat of you

Seemsmaybe a Border War a-brewin'  :Wha:

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 20, 2014, 12:08:59 PM
i hope nobody is hurt. KCFDcat did you order the hit on your competition? if so, not very leawoodfdcat of you

lol, the building was vacant. just a few old cars stored in there. me and the guys at border brewing are buds.

more like a border pillowfight, or border group hug, @spracne
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on November 20, 2014, 12:12:26 PM
Just a coupla stud suds buds.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 20, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
i hope nobody is hurt. KCFDcat did you order the hit on your competition? if so, not very leawoodfdcat of you

lol, the building was vacant. just a few old cars stored in there. me and the guys at border brewing are buds.

first thing I thought when I heard the news was hope it didn't hit either of your buildings....going to suck if they have to tear that building down....it wasn't much currently but it was great old building stock on a corner lot...and much better than the surface lot that would almost certainly replace it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 23, 2014, 10:35:02 AM
It's for sure getting torn down. Hopefully someone worthwhile buys it and builds something cool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 23, 2014, 09:19:45 PM
It's for sure getting torn down. Hopefully someone worthwhile buys it and builds something cool.

That sucks. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 24, 2014, 12:43:54 AM
so, the fire dept guy and some buddies buy a couple of buildings to brew some beer and then the building next to them just happens to burn down? uh yeah ok.  :nono:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 24, 2014, 12:46:18 AM
sounds like detective daris will burn this rat out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 12, 2014, 08:24:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4swnBJIAAIE7b3.jpg:large)

Quote
@MayorSlyJames: Mr Fros T going out to a party! pic.twitter.com/bgnzjFhjIt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 12, 2014, 08:43:12 PM
Who knows about the fire at the BC/BS building this afternoon?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on December 13, 2014, 10:28:56 AM
Who knows about the fire at the BC/BS building this afternoon?
I was right across the street when it happened. Looked like it was in the parking lot, not in the actual building.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hjfklmor on December 13, 2014, 02:13:50 PM
You seem to be near a lot of fires (and not in a kcfd capacity) :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SabiNation on December 15, 2014, 09:46:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4swnBJIAAIE7b3.jpg:large)

Quote
@MayorSlyJames: Mr Fros T going out to a party! pic.twitter.com/bgnzjFhjIt

So awesome
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 15, 2014, 09:50:22 AM
(http://greatergreater.com/images/201412/112233.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 16, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/time-lapse-kansas-city-lights/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on December 18, 2014, 10:49:17 AM
Miss 'Meister's friends are dead set on P&L for New Year's Eve.


 :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2014, 10:51:20 AM
Miss 'Meister's friends are dead set on P&L for New Year's Eve.


 :goodbyecruelworld:
Woof! Come to our black party.

http://www.blackpartykc.com/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 18, 2014, 10:51:54 AM
Miss 'Meister's friends are dead set on P&L for New Year's Eve.


 :goodbyecruelworld:

ms 'meisters friends are very PnL-y IMHO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 18, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
the uptown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2014, 10:57:16 AM
what do you guys even do at those great big NYE parties where you don't know anyone? weird imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2014, 10:58:36 AM
what do you guys even do at those great big NYE parties where you don't know anyone? weird imo
Why do ppl go to bars where they don't even know anybody? So weird! You go with a group dork! And drink all you can for $85 while jamming out to a DJamer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on December 18, 2014, 10:59:45 AM
what do you guys even do at those great big NYE parties where you don't know anyone? weird imo

EXACTLY!  It sounds like the worst thing ever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on December 18, 2014, 10:59:55 AM
Miss 'Meister's friends are dead set on P&L for New Year's Eve.


 :goodbyecruelworld:
T's and P's meister. P&L is the worst. Esp on nye.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2014, 11:00:28 AM
well you can leave a bar whenever you want because you didn't give the bouncer $85
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 18, 2014, 11:01:44 AM
if they closed off westport and charged $85 to get in, and you could drink as much as you want at any bar, that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
well you can leave a bar whenever you want because you didn't give the bouncer $85
True, but some ppl like a change of pace. Sitting at the same bars every weekend can get old. :CoveryourearsClams:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on December 18, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
I can already give you a play by play of what is going to happen. We pay the $75, cant get into a bar other than that main area, she's miserable because she's cold, I'm miserable because I can't rough ridin' move, and everyone loses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 18, 2014, 11:02:40 AM
if they closed off westport and charged $85 to get in, and you could drink as much as you want at any bar, that would be awesome.

yeah and there would be people with appetisers on trays walking around outside.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 18, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
i wouldnt pay $85 to get all you can drink ciroc if it was the last bar on earth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2014, 11:10:47 AM
i wouldnt pay $85 to get all you can drink ciroc if it was the last bar on earth
Food too, but I pimp an event, so I get it. I've worked it the last two years and had a lot of fun doing it. Getting paid to party on New Years, what a trip!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 18, 2014, 11:18:01 AM
i wouldnt pay $85 to get all you can drink ciroc if it was the last bar on earth
Food too, but I pimp an event, so I get it. I've worked it the last two years and had a lot of fun doing it. Getting paid to party on New Years, what a trip!

yeah, im not saying $85 for all you can eat and drink at a bar is a bad idea for NYE, its just not really my scene. id rather spend that money on a nice dinner and a case of beer that i can smash with my friends at a house.

i also have a huge fear of being out on NYE. drunk drivers everywhere...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2014, 11:22:06 AM
That's understandable. With age, I've really started to enjoy being home with friends and relaxing. If I wasn't helping the event, I'd be the same way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 18, 2014, 11:37:45 AM
i wouldnt pay $85 to get all you can drink ciroc if it was the last bar on earth
Food too, but I pimp an event, so I get it. I've worked it the last two years and had a lot of fun doing it. Getting paid to party on New Years, what a trip!

yeah, im not saying $85 for all you can eat and drink at a bar is a bad idea for NYE, its just not really my scene. id rather spend that money on a nice dinner and a case of beer that i can smash with my friends at a house.

i also have a huge fear of being out on NYE. drunk drivers everywhere...

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 18, 2014, 11:38:09 AM
Gf & her friends have us going to basically a Chicago version of a P&L bar. I agreed on the condition that I could get judgment free blacked out, but now we have a noon flight on new years day. :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on December 18, 2014, 11:42:09 AM
http://jocohistory.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/taco-via-enjoys-a-cult-following/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on December 18, 2014, 11:44:27 AM
the taco via close to me has the 10 commandments posted.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on December 18, 2014, 11:48:59 AM
the taco via close to me has the 10 commandments posted.

Is the first one "Thou shalt have no other gods before me.. and flat nachos."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on December 18, 2014, 01:02:48 PM
It's really weird inside.  Not a huge fan myself but my wife loves it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on December 18, 2014, 01:50:11 PM
http://jocohistory.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/taco-via-enjoys-a-cult-following/

@BenJi
 :Wha:

(http://jocohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/dsc_0430.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
that lady is mean , you better know what what you want
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 18, 2014, 01:59:31 PM
that lady is mean , you better know what what you want

easy, SPEmaw.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on December 18, 2014, 02:14:55 PM
http://jocohistory.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/taco-via-enjoys-a-cult-following/

@BenJi
 :Wha:

(http://jocohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/dsc_0430.jpg)

Debbie!

I read the article early this week and then promptly drove to the Via for dinner. Got the same thing as always, Special with a 4oz cup of japs.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on December 18, 2014, 02:31:33 PM
Where's that 'Via?  That's like 1000000x nicer than the 10 commandments one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on December 18, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
Where's that 'Via?  That's like 1000000x nicer than the 10 commandments one.

Before they moved across the street, it did not look that nice. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 19, 2014, 01:53:07 AM
Man, I haven't been to that Taco Via in a minute. Might have to this weekend. Burrito Bravo!  :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 19, 2014, 01:55:46 AM
Also, I can't think of anything more Kansas City than a bunch of white people getting pak'd in Westport at an event called "The Black Party"

Mods, please close this thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 19, 2014, 07:54:33 AM
Btw who was the dumbass in this thread bashing Hyde Park as a place to raise children
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
Also, I can't think of anything more Kansas City than a bunch of white people getting pak'd in Westport at an event called "The Black Party"

Mods, please close this thread.
It's ran by a couple of african americans, but ok. You wear black attire there, dork store.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 19, 2014, 09:00:09 AM
Hey 'meister, I'm probably not coming to KC to hang out with you on NYE.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2014, 12:28:05 PM
Is this old? It came across my FB today, but the date says September. Oh well, possible luking here.

http://kcur.org/post/huffington-post-names-kansas-city-coolest-city-america
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2014, 12:28:54 PM
Also, I can't think of anything more Kansas City than a bunch of white people getting pak'd in Westport at an event called "The Black Party"

Mods, please close this thread.
It's ran by a couple of african americans, but ok. You wear black attire there, dork store.

Very exotic!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on December 19, 2014, 12:34:50 PM
Is this old? It came across my FB today, but the date says September. Oh well, possible luking here.

http://kcur.org/post/huffington-post-names-kansas-city-coolest-city-america

Definite luke. sorry WC08.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 19, 2014, 01:02:10 PM
Also, I can't think of anything more Kansas City than a bunch of white people getting pak'd in Westport at an event called "The Black Party"

Mods, please close this thread.
It's ran by a couple of african americans, but ok. You wear black attire there, dork store.

In that case it's a great idea for them to capitalize on the racism among whites in Westport and take their money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 19, 2014, 01:41:45 PM
Also, I can't think of anything more Kansas City than a bunch of white people getting pak'd in Westport at an event called "The Black Party"

Mods, please close this thread.
It's ran by a couple of african americans, but ok. You wear black attire there, dork store.

In that case it's a great idea for them to capitalize on the racism among whites in Westport and take their money.

you are spot on about what attracts racists to parties.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 19, 2014, 02:03:55 PM
"man, i am just really in the mood to hate some black folks tonight, jim bob. hey you know what we should do? go to a party that has the word black in it and wear the color black! that'll show 'em!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on December 19, 2014, 02:05:41 PM
Where's that 'Via?  That's like 1000000x nicer than the 10 commandments one.

Before they moved across the street, it did not look that nice.

Correct, old location had water stains on ceiling tiles, a menu display that had not changed since 1980, all sorts of "charm". New location is kaddy corner from where the old location was at 95th and Antioch.




Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2014, 02:18:40 PM
"man, i am just really in the mood to hate some black folks tonight, jim bob. hey you know what we should do? go to a party that has the word black in it and wear the color black! that'll show 'em!"
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2014, 02:20:10 PM
Racist love dressing up, paying $85 to get into a "black party event", just to prove that they belong!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2014, 05:33:57 PM
My last NYE "party' was at uptown....wait maybe Martini Corner when some dude got popped 15 minutes after we decided to just hoof it back downtown after cabs were nowhere to be found....I've been house party for NYE from then on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2014, 07:37:06 PM
I've seen a dude get curb stomped at martini corner. That place is garbage at night. They teamed up and took his wallet too while the bouncers watched. #life
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
did you post the story in your news clipping thread?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2014, 07:43:06 PM
a bouncer in martini corner once informed me my license was 3 months expired.  i had no idea, thanks martini corner bouncer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2014, 07:44:05 PM
that place sounds great.  taking unlicensed drivers off the road and all
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2014, 07:44:52 PM
i was like 28 so he still let me in!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2014, 07:50:56 PM
also one time at martini corner i met this girl and we hit it off pretty good and then after the bar closed we went to ihop all the way down at 35 and shawnee mission parkway (like a $20 cab ride!) cause we were craving some fuckin ihop and we were talking about something i don't even remember and she drops "oh yeah, my husband really likes that too" and i did this IRL  ---> :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2014, 07:51:17 PM
did you post the story in your news clipping thread?
No. It never made the news. It was one white trash guy probably talking crap to another race and they took care of it. Curb stomp, stollen wallet, and a jaw that needed fixed. At least the bus ride home told them to stop
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2014, 07:56:58 PM
also one time at martini corner i met this girl and we hit it off pretty good and then after the bar closed we went to ihop all the way down at 35 and shawnee mission parkway (like a $20 cab ride!) cause we were craving some fuckin ihop and we were talking about something i don't even remember and she drops "oh yeah, my husband really likes that too" and i did this IRL  ---> :dubious:

hmmm... come to think of it, her husband was a kc(k)fd member  :surprised:   kcfdcat, is your wife a cheerleading coach at nazareth or whatever that college in olathe is called?   :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
way to be a bummer dude  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2014, 08:05:11 PM

sounds very respectful iyam
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2014, 08:07:51 PM
Man, the internet man. It can suck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on December 20, 2014, 08:27:52 AM
MNU has cheerleaders?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 20, 2014, 09:52:43 AM
What is going on here?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on December 20, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
also one time at martini corner i met this girl and we hit it off pretty good and then after the bar closed we went to ihop all the way down at 35 and shawnee mission parkway (like a $20 cab ride!) cause we were craving some fuckin ihop and we were talking about something i don't even remember and she drops "oh yeah, my husband really likes that too" and i did this IRL  ---> :dubious:

hmmm... come to think of it, her husband was a kc(k)fd member  :surprised:   kcfdcat, is your wife a cheerleading coach at nazareth or whatever that college in olathe is called?   :ohno:
No. She does crazy computer things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on December 20, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
Whew!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2014, 10:53:41 AM
MNU has cheerleaders?

Apparently!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on December 22, 2014, 04:15:23 PM
curb stomping generally leads to death
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: nicname on December 22, 2014, 04:58:08 PM
also one time at martini corner i met this girl and we hit it off pretty good and then after the bar closed we went to ihop all the way down at 35 and shawnee mission parkway (like a $20 cab ride!) cause we were craving some fuckin ihop and we were talking about something i don't even remember and she drops "oh yeah, my husband really likes that too" and i did this IRL  ---> :dubious:

hmmm... come to think of it, her husband was a kc(k)fd member  :surprised:   kcfdcat, is your wife a cheerleading coach at nazareth or whatever that college in olathe is called?   :ohno:

Should have told her you were sole owner of gE.com
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 30, 2014, 02:03:45 PM
LC's (current favorite kc bbq joint of 'taterblast) roof caught on fire last night. was just there on saturday. glad they're okay!

http://www.kmbc.com/news/crews-respond-to-fire-at-lcs-bbq/30449046#.VKLgUxu1MX4.twitter (http://www.kmbc.com/news/crews-respond-to-fire-at-lcs-bbq/30449046#.VKLgUxu1MX4.twitter)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on December 30, 2014, 02:13:10 PM
Got curb stomped last night and man, I don't know if I have a bruise, but it sure smarts. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 31, 2014, 02:22:34 PM
you guys we are getting an orangutan canopy at the zoo this summer!  :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 31, 2014, 02:38:58 PM
you guys we are getting an orangutan canopy at the zoo this summer!  :drool:

Watch out Omaha!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 31, 2014, 09:52:05 PM
(http://media2.kshb.com/photo/2014/12/31/RV-Letter_1420081625576_12087020_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kansas/prairie-village-neighbor-suggests-rv-better-fit-for-lesser-neighborhood
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on December 31, 2014, 10:03:35 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2014, 10:28:46 PM
Oh Prairie Village...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on December 31, 2014, 10:51:18 PM
I'd paint my house magenta if I got something like that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 12:23:52 PM
(http://media2.kshb.com/photo/2014/12/31/RV-Letter_1420081625576_12087020_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kansas/prairie-village-neighbor-suggests-rv-better-fit-for-lesser-neighborhood

"Troost area" omg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 01, 2015, 12:48:47 PM
if there's one thing you see around Troost it's shitloads of recreational vehicles
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on January 01, 2015, 12:53:45 PM
I maintain that the world would be better if a tornado completely removed PV.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 12:54:54 PM
it makes me so angry that i can't even formulate an articulate post
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 12:55:42 PM
when idiots say "Troost area" it is the exact same thing as when idiots say "thug" when they really mean "n-word"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 12:56:32 PM
i mean it just drives me up a rough ridin' wall. oh troost oh yeah no never go there, that "area" is a terrible "area"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 12:58:02 PM
i mean you may as well just walk around PV with a sign that says "idiot / bigot combo" because that is what you're saying when you say "Troost area". oh yeah one time i had to drive on troost and i locked my doors, i can't believe i didn't get shot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 12:59:07 PM
sorry this is like a hot button issue for me apparently
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 01, 2015, 01:00:20 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on January 01, 2015, 01:01:35 PM
mocat - they also say "western shawnee" and "independence". thoughts?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:03:04 PM
mocat - they also say "western shawnee" and "independence". thoughts?

i mean yeah independence, have you ever been there? it's like RV central, i mean that's like not even a derogatory thing to say about Independence. western shawnee (as garbage pile-y as it is), i don't think of as RV-y
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 01, 2015, 01:03:22 PM
i mean it just drives me up a rough ridin' wall. oh troost oh yeah no never go there, that "area" is a terrible "area"

Troost goes further south than 83rd street, fyi.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:05:03 PM
i mean it just drives me up a rough ridin' wall. oh troost oh yeah no never go there, that "area" is a terrible "area"

Troost goes further south than 83rd street, fyi.

ok...?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 01, 2015, 01:05:22 PM
mocat, how often do you go to the troost area?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on January 01, 2015, 01:06:06 PM
I wonder if Seventh Heaven is still there. I used to get my bootleg 311 CD's from there in like 1995.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:07:30 PM
mocat, how often do you go to the troost area?

well it's a street not an area but i am a troost frequent'r. aldi!  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
the ymca at 70th is v. nice also
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:08:43 PM
when i was in high school i used to get beer at holiday liquors, it had a GD drive through window!  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on January 01, 2015, 01:09:50 PM
Marc's Chicken and Waffles  :love:

Pretty sure that closed in like 92 tho  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 01, 2015, 01:10:17 PM
(http://media2.kshb.com/photo/2014/12/31/RV-Letter_1420081625576_12087020_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kansas/prairie-village-neighbor-suggests-rv-better-fit-for-lesser-neighborhood

"Troost area" omg

True story, I lived in PV after college for a short period. My obamatard neighbors served me with a letter nearly identical to this one for parking my car on the street facing the wrong direction. I bet it's the same people (huge snobs, racists, trust fund libtards).  I told them I'd fix it as soon as they fixed their shitty yard. In hindsight, i wish I would have told them to fix their "troosty" yard.

They used to brag about how pv had more dogs than people, and that used to bug the eff out of me the same way "Troost area" bugs mocat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 01, 2015, 01:12:21 PM
Marc's Chicken and Waffles  :love:

Pretty sure that closed in like 92 tho  :frown:

Go chicken go on 51st (?) :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:13:06 PM
Marc's Chicken and Waffles  :love:

Pretty sure that closed in like 92 tho  :frown:

yes i am not familiar with that establishment.

stroud's tho  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 01, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
when idiots say "Troost area" it is the exact same thing as when idiots say "thug" when they really mean "n-word"

it's just what joco people say when they need to mention a "bad area" aka "black area" of town.  it's highly unlikely the person who wrote the note has ever been to troost or for that matter north of shawnee mission pkwy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 01, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
when i was in high school i used to get beer at holiday liquors, it had a GD drive through window!  :lol:

my underage liquor store was a drive-thru too!  it's tore down now  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on January 01, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
...parking my car on the street facing the wrong direction.

That's pretty troosty.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 01, 2015, 01:14:47 PM
I loved go chicken go so much.  DFW has chicken express tho which is v comparable.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:15:16 PM
yeah maybe a nice gesture would be to drop a bag of livers and a bottle of sauce from GCG on that idiot bigot combo's doorstep. GCG is probably the gateway drug for "Troost area" idiot bigot combos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 01, 2015, 01:18:51 PM
...parking my car on the street facing the wrong direction.

That's pretty troosty.

I know, right. I didn't even know it was illegal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 01, 2015, 01:19:03 PM
when I worked at 119th and Renner we would regularly drive down to the GCG in south Olathe for lunch

gizzards  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:19:32 PM
when i was in high school i used to get beer at holiday liquors, it had a GD drive through window!  :lol:

my underage liquor store was a drive-thru too!  it's tore down now  :frown:

i don't think holiday is open anymore either. our grandkids will not understand  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2015, 01:20:41 PM
...parking my car on the street facing the wrong direction.

That's pretty troosty.

I know, right. I didn't even know it was illegal

someone told me if you park that way, insurance will not pay if your car gets hit or something. i was like LOL watch for traffic when you open your door dirtbag
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 01, 2015, 01:20:58 PM
I loved go chicken go so much.  DFW has chicken express tho which is v comparable.

It's gone???? I don't visit the "Troost area" much anymore, stick mostly to Prospect
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 01, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
...parking my car on the street facing the wrong direction.

That's pretty troosty.

I know, right. I didn't even know it was illegal

someone told me if you park that way, insurance will not pay if your car gets hit or something. i was like LOL watch for traffic when you open your door dirtbag

LOL, I park that way when I want the passenger to get hit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 01, 2015, 01:24:36 PM
What do you guys think about the "prospect area"


My neighbor once told me my old car belonged in the "quindero area", and I was all "my uncles wife is hispanic, you a-hole!!!!".
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 01, 2015, 01:26:11 PM
I loved go chicken go so much.  DFW has chicken express tho which is v comparable.

It's gone???? I don't visit the "Troost area" much anymore, stick mostly to Prospect

No I just moved away from KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 01, 2015, 01:27:36 PM
...parking my car on the street facing the wrong direction.

That's pretty troosty.

I know, right. I didn't even know it was illegal

someone told me if you park that way, insurance will not pay if your car gets hit or something. i was like LOL watch for traffic when you open your door dirtbag

I've never heard of an auto policy with exclusions based on the way you're parked. You might get a ticket if you park illegally but insurance doesn't care about that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on January 01, 2015, 02:00:14 PM
LC's (current favorite kc bbq joint of 'taterblast) roof caught on fire last night. was just there on saturday. glad they're okay!

http://www.kmbc.com/news/crews-respond-to-fire-at-lcs-bbq/30449046#.VKLgUxu1MX4.twitter (http://www.kmbc.com/news/crews-respond-to-fire-at-lcs-bbq/30449046#.VKLgUxu1MX4.twitter)
LC's is my go to spot after Chiefs home games. Their sliced pork is my favorite.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on January 01, 2015, 03:01:43 PM

My neighbor once told me my old car belonged in the "quindero area", and I was all "my uncles wife is hispanic, you a-hole!!!!".

If he knows spanish then it's okay with people on this blog.  Cute to them. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on January 01, 2015, 03:11:28 PM
To be fair, almost the entire missouri side is a lesser area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on January 02, 2015, 07:55:47 AM
Missouri has plenty of non-racist reasons for sucking. Like their roads for example. Hey is that a huge alignment destroying pothole on Wornall, what should we do about that? I think we should just put a huge 6 inch thick steel plate over it and never fill the hole!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 02, 2015, 08:42:06 AM
That letter pissed me off too. Some of the houses in PV are really nice (71st and between mission and state line) but a lot of them are just shitty shackhouses with shitty foundations but they are "charmers" and "full of character" because they have a dog, a yard, and send their kids to Shawnee Mission East.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 02, 2015, 02:43:17 PM
Marc's Chicken and Waffles  :love:

Pretty sure that closed in like 92 tho  :frown:

Go chicken go on 51st (?) :drool:

god damnit, i'm not supposed to agree with you about anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 03, 2015, 09:41:48 PM
parts of PV are awesome. plus BRGR is from PV and that place is great, wow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 09, 2015, 03:36:19 PM
great day for a shooting apparently
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 09, 2015, 03:38:09 PM
great day for a shooting apparently
It was a block away from my moms work.  :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2015, 03:43:53 PM
Anyone ate at The Bite?  pretty good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2015, 03:45:16 PM
shawnee is complete trash
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sunny_cat on January 09, 2015, 03:51:51 PM
Very close to city hall
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 09, 2015, 04:00:49 PM
I mean, what could go wrong robbing a gun store that teaches self defense?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2015, 04:56:29 PM
Just caught up on the "Troost Area" discussion and was sad no one mentioned Mike's Tavern
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 09, 2015, 06:34:56 PM
Quite a little shoot em up in Shawnee and then downtown today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2015, 06:36:29 PM
when i was in high school i used to get beer at holiday liquors, it had a GD drive through window!  :lol:

my underage liquor store was a drive-thru too!  it's tore down now  :frown:

i don't think holiday is open anymore either. our grandkids will not understand  :frown:

Update: it totally is still open!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2015, 06:45:51 PM
I think mine got moved a few blocks away and still has a drive-thru. It's also next to the laundromat bar  :eek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on January 09, 2015, 07:01:39 PM
mine is still open in Argentine and it looks better than i remember on google street view
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 12, 2015, 04:38:33 PM
so i just talked to my best friends in the entire world (the guys who work at LC's), and the place was never on fire. it was just extra smoky and the police got called. said that pretty much nothing that was reported on the news was true.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 12, 2015, 05:28:53 PM
that actually happens at gates a lot, also LC's is overrated crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 12, 2015, 05:31:47 PM
I went to Cosentino's Friday after work and it was a cluster eff. They're was a bomb threat, a bank robbery, and a cop shot the robber downtown all in a matter of hours. It took me 45 minutes to get to my pad because they almost had every street shut off with cops. I had to get back on the highway and go around downtown to get back over by the quaff. Sheesh.  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 12, 2015, 06:32:14 PM
I went to Cosentino's Friday after work and it was a cluster eff. They're was a bomb threat, a bank robbery, and a cop shot the robber downtown all in a matter of hours. It took me 45 minutes to get to my pad because they almost had every street shut off with cops. I had to get back on the highway and go around downtown to get back over by the quaff. Sheesh.  :Yuck:

you should get a bike
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 12, 2015, 06:35:29 PM
I went to Cosentino's Friday after work and it was a cluster eff. They're was a bomb threat, a bank robbery, and a cop shot the robber downtown all in a matter of hours. It took me 45 minutes to get to my pad because they almost had every street shut off with cops. I had to get back on the highway and go around downtown to get back over by the quaff. Sheesh.  :Yuck:

you should get a bike
I know. I was driving back from work, so I was already in my car. If I would have known, I would have prepared accordingly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 12, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
I went to Cosentino's Friday after work and it was a cluster eff. They're was a bomb threat, a bank robbery, and a cop shot the robber downtown all in a matter of hours. It took me 45 minutes to get to my pad because they almost had every street shut off with cops. I had to get back on the highway and go around downtown to get back over by the quaff. Sheesh.  :Yuck:

I was leaving the office right around then...walking worked just fine!!   :driving: <-  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 12, 2015, 07:02:14 PM
A lot of crap went down in KC over the weekend. Even Afentra from 96.5 The BUZZ got her ass kicked trying to stop this guy from taking out a girl. So weird. Maybe it's winter depression?  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 12, 2015, 07:07:36 PM
801 fire and Shawnee shooting too....pretty crazy Fri-Mon.  I've never seen more cops anywhere in one place than I saw Friday downtown.  they were all pretty on edge too or I would have given them some high fives for their quick response.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 12, 2015, 07:09:31 PM
801 fire and Shawnee shooting too....pretty crazy Fri-Mon.  I've never seen more cops anywhere in one place than I saw Friday downtown.  they were all pretty on edge too or I would have given them some high fives for their quick response.
They really were. They weren't rough ridin' around.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ksuwizard on January 15, 2015, 04:08:00 PM
Anyone hitting up Restaurant Week this coming week? Even CocoBolos is getting in on it (I haven't been yet, heard it wasn't quite as good as MHK).

https://www.kcrestaurantweek.com/content/cocobolos#dinner
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: raquetcat on January 15, 2015, 06:50:20 PM
What are fun things to do in Kansas city with my 3 year old daughter, during a weekday, like next week.

Interests : princesses, frozen, books, singing, other typical 3 year old stuff
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 15, 2015, 06:59:50 PM
What are fun things to do in Kansas city with my 3 year old daughter, during a weekday, like next week.

Interests : princesses, frozen, books, singing, other typical 3 year old stuff

Crayola Cafe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 15, 2015, 07:19:00 PM
What are fun things to do in Kansas city with my 3 year old daughter, during a weekday, like next week.

Interests : princesses, frozen, books, singing, other typical 3 year old stuff

Union Station / Crown Center complex
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 15, 2015, 07:20:12 PM
Anyone hitting up Restaurant Week this coming week? Even CocoBolos is getting in on it (I haven't been yet, heard it wasn't quite as good as MHK).

https://www.kcrestaurantweek.com/content/cocobolos#dinner

yes sir.  Capital Grille is probably the best "deal" but it's tough to get in.

Hitting Le Fou and Bristol so far....haven't really looked at all the options yet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: raquetcat on January 15, 2015, 07:35:54 PM
What are fun things to do in Kansas city with my 3 year old daughter, during a weekday, like next week.

Interests : princesses, frozen, books, singing, other typical 3 year old stuff

Union Station / Crown Center complex
We've done the aquarium, the crayola cafe is kinda lame
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 15, 2015, 07:47:23 PM
What are fun things to do in Kansas city with my 3 year old daughter, during a weekday, like next week.

Interests : princesses, frozen, books, singing, other typical 3 year old stuff

Union Station / Crown Center complex
We've done the aquarium, the crayola cafe is kinda lame

legoland, train exhibit in Union Station, fritz's burger place, childrens theatre, probably too young for Science City.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 15, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
What are fun things to do in Kansas city with my 3 year old daughter, during a weekday, like next week.

Interests : princesses, frozen, books, singing, other typical 3 year old stuff

union station has a CRAZY BUGS! exhibit right now. there's no real bugs, just big animated things and interactive displays. maybe it would freak her out but when i was there the kids seemed very interested.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on January 16, 2015, 10:22:48 AM
What are fun things to do in Kansas city with my 3 year old daughter, during a weekday, like next week.

Interests : princesses, frozen, books, singing, other typical 3 year old stuff

Union Station / Crown Center complex
We've done the aquarium, the crayola cafe is kinda lame
If you don't mind trekking out to Lee's Summit, this place can kill the whole day
http://www.paradise-park.com/ (http://www.paradise-park.com/)
Basically arcade on one side and more educational, arts crap on the other
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 16, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
take her to prairie village to look at all the poor people with RVs and throw rocks at their houses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: raquetcat on January 16, 2015, 10:43:34 AM
How's the zoo?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on January 16, 2015, 10:47:20 AM
How's the zoo?

It is great when it's warm out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on January 16, 2015, 10:52:09 AM
it can actually be easier to see the animals in winter with the reduction in foliage.  Only the snack bar at the main entrance will be open.

Also, this place in old Shawnee is kinda dirty, smelly and run down but a 3 yr will still enjoy it
http://www.wonderscope.org/ (http://www.wonderscope.org/)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 16, 2015, 10:56:19 AM
How's the zoo?

big.

Have you been to Deanna Rose?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: raquetcat on January 16, 2015, 10:59:45 AM
How's the zoo?

big.

Have you been to Deanna Rose?
Deana rose is closed until April or something :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on January 16, 2015, 11:02:02 AM
yeah, the zoo is not packed and no leaves blocking views in the winter, but the animals are not out much and aren't very active when they are.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 16, 2015, 11:02:28 AM
prairie fire might be a good place to try out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on January 16, 2015, 11:03:15 AM
How's the zoo?

big.

Have you been to Deanna Rose?
ya, bring the stroller or plan on getting a shoulder/back workout
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 16, 2015, 11:06:31 AM
How's the zoo?

big.

Have you been to Deanna Rose?
Deana rose is closed until April or something :frown:

oh, bummer,   it's a neat place for kids.   I've been thinking it's about time for Mikey Jr. (4 1/2) to experience the KU Museum of History.   I always like it on school trips.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on January 16, 2015, 11:06:42 AM
this place is free and has some cool bones and skulls that kids can hold, a bunch of owls and hawks with broken wings to look at and snakes and turtles in cages. 
http://www.lakesidenaturecenter.org/ (http://www.lakesidenaturecenter.org/)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 16, 2015, 11:09:33 AM
So how are we voting on this Unified School District no. 229 Question ballot guys?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: raquetcat on January 16, 2015, 11:09:59 AM
Great suggestions everyone, thanks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on January 16, 2015, 11:16:39 AM
So how are we voting on this Unified School District no. 229 Question ballot guys?
I get a little tired of voting for these things and then playing 3rd grade bball games at BV elem schools where I can't lower goal below 8'10" and the square on the backboard looks like it was spray painted on by bradessex
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 16, 2015, 11:26:39 AM
So how are we voting on this Unified School District no. 229 Question ballot guys?
I get a little tired of voting for these things and then playing 3rd grade bball games at BV elem schools where I can't lower goal below 8'10" and the square on the backboard looks like it was spray painted on by bradessex

I am not sure I want to pay for schools that my squad of stud children will never attend because they go to elite private schools.  Maybe for property values or something?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 16, 2015, 12:31:05 PM
whats the ballot question, dickstone?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 16, 2015, 12:44:05 PM
whats the ballot question, dickstone?

Continue with an existing 3% tax for the kids.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on January 16, 2015, 12:44:58 PM
whats the ballot question, dickstone?

Continue with an existing 3% tax for the kids.

Is this KCMO?  If so, KCMO is so mumped.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 16, 2015, 01:19:34 PM
whats the ballot question, dickstone?

Continue with an existing 3% tax for the kids.

Is this KCMO?  If so, KCMO is so mumped.

Blue Valley
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2015, 01:24:45 PM

What are fun things to do in Kansas city with my 3 year old daughter, during a weekday, like next week.

Interests : princesses, frozen, books, singing, other typical 3 year old stuff
Falloon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2015, 01:27:31 PM
I would take my daughters to the Faloon to meet clams. It would be the top of my list of things to do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 16, 2015, 01:33:09 PM
whats the ballot question, dickstone?

Continue with an existing 3% tax for the kids.

Is this KCMO?  If so, KCMO is so mumped.

Blue Valley

You should vote no. I went to BV schools and I'd vote no.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 16, 2015, 01:42:57 PM
I will vote no but just because I know there is no way it doesn't pass so my vote is worthless.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 16, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
I will vote no but just because I know there is no way it doesn't pass so my vote is worthless.

Yeah, everyone who lives in District 229 lives there because they want to send their kids to a sheltered public high school without paying for private school. They'll pay the 3% all day.

Oh well... At least Nick Besler got drafted?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 16, 2015, 01:48:48 PM
I will vote no but just because I know there is no way it doesn't pass so my vote is worthless.

Yeah, everyone who lives in District 229 lives there because they want to send their kids to a sheltered public high school without paying for private school. They'll pay the 3% all day.

Oh well... At least Nick Besler got drafted?

It will pass by like 98%, they love their school district.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on January 16, 2015, 01:55:51 PM
I'm so blessed to be amongst BV schools.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 16, 2015, 03:57:38 PM
take this jibber jabber to the JOCO thread (not the clams + michigancat daughters fallooning jibber jabber)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2015, 04:30:38 PM
true story: I have had a brunch w/ at least one of my daughters (maybe both?) and clams at Record Bar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2015, 04:42:29 PM
prairie fire might be a good place to try out.

For what?  varneys?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2015, 11:50:53 AM

true story: I have had a brunch w/ at least one of my daughters (maybe both?) and clams at Record Bar
both and I have pics to prove it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EuroCat on January 17, 2015, 01:06:08 PM
Was out for a run this morning (Waldo) and there was a Crime Scene Investigation van at a stop light. It had a bullet hole in the windshield.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2015, 01:10:16 PM
I did not know record bar had food, let alone brunch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2015, 01:33:46 PM
I did not know record bar had food, let alone brunch
They used to have very good food. They still might.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
my God, known Kansas Citier mocat, the Bartender's Brunch at record bar is legit son get some
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 04, 2015, 07:07:05 PM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/screenland-taps-into-the-crossroads-in-a-big-way/Content?oid=5049084

 :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 04, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
Fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 05, 2015, 09:25:51 AM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/screenland-taps-into-the-crossroads-in-a-big-way/Content?oid=5049084

 :excited:

THAT'S NEAT!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 05, 2015, 09:43:22 AM
seems unnecessary, do people actually like to get drunk and watch movies?   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2015, 09:44:50 AM
I like to drink and watch movies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 05, 2015, 09:49:39 AM
very odd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 05, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
I like going to alamo drafthouse downtown for the sole reason of being able to drink through the movie. I think it enhances the experience.  :) Plus, $3.50 for a pbr at a theater? That's not bad!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 05, 2015, 09:55:47 AM
i guess some of us enjoy movies and some of us are drunks that use movies as a crutch to enable our addiction to alcohol

sad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 05, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
True. I do order food too if that helps tho.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 02:40:42 PM
I usually just get blackout and don't watch movies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 05, 2015, 06:02:05 PM
seems unnecessary, do people actually like to get drunk and watch movies?

I'm more about the getting drunk and playing Donkey Kong personally.  This and UpDown both a walk away....I'm excited for that part too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 05, 2015, 06:45:22 PM
arcade games = yes
trying to watch a movie with a bunch of loaded hipsters = no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2015, 03:18:56 PM
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/02/09/border-brewing-cos-grand-opening-set-for-saturday-february-21

just under two weeks until it opens
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on February 09, 2015, 03:37:50 PM
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/02/09/border-brewing-cos-grand-opening-set-for-saturday-february-21

just under two weeks until it opens

is this guy as big of a stud as his college of choice would suggest?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on February 09, 2015, 04:34:16 PM
I will vote no but just because I know there is no way it doesn't pass so my vote is worthless.

Yeah, everyone who lives in District 229 lives there because they want to send their kids to a sheltered public high school without paying for private school. They'll pay the 3% all day.

To a person, every single one of my neighbors has said that they moved here for the schools.

Even the dude that moved here 30 years ago.

BV has so much money, it doesn't even know what to do with it.  They just planted a row of trees along 123rd St. at BVN.  I was walking the dog and wondered why in the Hell they did that.

Not that I'm against trees, but it's not like they didn't have a crap load of trees already.  It was weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 09, 2015, 04:37:37 PM
if there is one thing southern johnson county has too much of, it is trees
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 09, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
if there is one thing southern johnson county has too much of, it is trees

have you seen the lifetime fitness off 135th? soooooo many trees. makes me so mad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on February 09, 2015, 04:40:42 PM
if there is one thing southern johnson county has too much of, it is trees

My area has plenty of them.  But that's not my point, mocat.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2015, 08:04:20 PM
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/02/09/border-brewing-cos-grand-opening-set-for-saturday-february-21

just under two weeks until it opens

Excited for this and obv double shift!  1, maybe 2 distilleries also headed downtown!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 07:49:17 AM
I bet they planted the trees buy paying some Wyandotte County guy to dig holes, then held a parade like procession where school admin and local dignitaries "planted" the seedlings by holding a bunch of them in one palm while skimming them off with their other hand make - it - rain style.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 16, 2015, 02:52:21 PM
Olathe's Great Mall officially closing in the fall. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on February 16, 2015, 02:55:26 PM
Olathe's Great Mall officially closing in the fall. 
I wonder if that 2013 #bid calendar is still stuck to that light pole there?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 16, 2015, 03:12:49 PM
Olathe's Great Mall officially closing in the fall.

Shocking that didn't work. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 16, 2015, 03:38:54 PM
That sucks bc it had an original pizza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 16, 2015, 03:42:14 PM
growing up on the hard streets of olathe i went there a lot b/c it had a movie theater and spencers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 20, 2015, 12:59:01 PM
Finally got our building permits for the brewery today!  :excited: :excited:

it's very kansas city to have our project go through three months of plan review apparently.  :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 01:04:10 PM
KC is the worst.  Some advice: see if you can get with codes and ask of you can request the same inspector for the multiple inspections you will get over the process.  Then meet with that guy and your contractor to get a feel for what he will be looking hardest at.  Then focus on that crap.  It will make it so that interpretation of the code isn't juggled from one inspector to another visit to visit, and also so that you are as prepared as possible for the initial inspections because they get to be more of a stickler when they do re-inspections.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 20, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
KC is the worst.  Some advice: see if you can get with codes and ask of you can request the same inspector for the multiple inspections you will get over the process.  Then meet with that guy and your contractor to get a feel for what he will be looking hardest at.  Then focus on that crap.  It will make it so that interpretation of the code isn't juggled from one inspector to another visit to visit, and also so that you are as prepared as possible for the initial inspections because they get to be more of a stickler when they do re-inspections.

Ah thanks man. my contractor is v experienced with KC/restaurant type stuff. I'm really hoping that process goes smoothly, but nothing else with the city has so I'm not sure why I think this part will...

The new wastewater requirements are insane. They wanted us to put in an exterior manhole in our parking lot. Thankfully we fought it and got it removed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2015, 01:18:50 PM
KC is the worst.

just curious, what are you comparing KC to in this situation?

in my experience most medium/large cities are "the worst", but the actual worst is a tie between San Diego and Miami-Dade county.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 01:27:29 PM
Other local munis.   OP, Leawood, Lenexa, etc.  Have never had the pleasure of anything requiring permits outside NE KS or NW MO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 20, 2015, 01:30:21 PM
KC is the worst.

just curious, what are you comparing KC to in this situation?

in my experience most medium/large cities are "the worst", but the actual worst is a tie between San Diego and Miami-Dade county.

I'm sure the big cities/cities with historical buildings really are "the worst"  I have a friend that is an architect in Boston and building/renovating stuff there is next to impossible.

In my opinion KC is just very understaffed/unorganized so things take way too long. combine that with a lot of construction going on downtown and their plan reviewers are really swamped. In everything I've done with the city for licensing/brewing/liquor control the city has not been very helpful or just plain didn't know how to do something. It's very frustrating that a city practically begging for businesses to come downtown is as unhelpful as it has been, especially coming from a first time business owner.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2015, 04:05:13 PM
Finally got our building permits for the brewery today!  :excited: :excited:

it's very kansas city to have our project go through three months of plan review apparently.  :bang:

That sucks, supposedly they have been trying to make a small business one stop shop
http://kcmo.gov/kcbizcare/about/

Sounds like your hold up was planning department.  Sad because of the crap they let get through (see new Hilton2 hotel building design by you).  Definitely give feedback to the city....Rick Usher is the right ear to bend.  Feedback is the only way they will get better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2015, 04:06:31 PM
Other local munis.   OP, Leawood, Lenexa, etc.  Have never had the pleasure of anything requiring permits outside NE KS or NW MO.

What is different?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2015, 04:09:06 PM
KC is the worst.

just curious, what are you comparing KC to in this situation?

in my experience most medium/large cities are "the worst", but the actual worst is a tie between San Diego and Miami-Dade county.

I'm sure the big cities/cities with historical buildings really are "the worst"  I have a friend that is an architect in Boston and building/renovating stuff there is next to impossible.

In my opinion KC is just very understaffed/unorganized so things take way too long. combine that with a lot of construction going on downtown and their plan reviewers are really swamped. In everything I've done with the city for licensing/brewing/liquor control the city has not been very helpful or just plain didn't know how to do something. It's very frustrating that a city practically begging for businesses to come downtown is as unhelpful as it has been, especially coming from a first time business owner.

Unfortunately you are entering one of the most regulated of businesses when you mix in liquor and manufacturing and public spaces.....laws to prevent another Pendergast type probably have a lot to do with it too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 20, 2015, 04:09:19 PM
Finally got our building permits for the brewery today!  :excited: :excited:

it's very kansas city to have our project go through three months of plan review apparently.  :bang:

That sucks, supposedly they have been trying to make a small business one stop shop
http://kcmo.gov/kcbizcare/about/

Sounds like your hold up was planning department.  Sad because of the crap they let get through (see new Hilton2 hotel building design by you).  Definitely give feedback to the city....Rick Usher is the right ear to bend.  Feedback is the only way they will get better.
I go to the bizcare office weekly. They're pretty decent for a normal retail shop or office I think, but when it comes to manufacturing a regulated good (alcohol)  they're pretty lost.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 04:10:39 PM
Other local munis.   OP, Leawood, Lenexa, etc.  Have never had the pleasure of anything requiring permits outside NE KS or NW MO.

What is different?

Ease, time, accountability, ability to reach someone, etc. 

That said, the inspectors are better, imo. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 20, 2015, 04:11:20 PM
KC is the worst.

just curious, what are you comparing KC to in this situation?

in my experience most medium/large cities are "the worst", but the actual worst is a tie between San Diego and Miami-Dade county.

I'm sure the big cities/cities with historical buildings really are "the worst"  I have a friend that is an architect in Boston and building/renovating stuff there is next to impossible.

In my opinion KC is just very understaffed/unorganized so things take way too long. combine that with a lot of construction going on downtown and their plan reviewers are really swamped. In everything I've done with the city for licensing/brewing/liquor control the city has not been very helpful or just plain didn't know how to do something. It's very frustrating that a city practically begging for businesses to come downtown is as unhelpful as it has been, especially coming from a first time business owner.

Unfortunately you are entering one of the most regulated of businesses when you mix in liquor and manufacturing and public spaces.....laws to prevent another Pendergast type probably have a lot to do with it too.
Exactly, I don't mind regulation, but when the government is so unfamiliar with the process that they don't know which forms to complete or how to get what I need it's obviously over regulated.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2015, 04:13:11 PM
Other local munis.   OP, Leawood, Lenexa, etc.  Have never had the pleasure of anything requiring permits outside NE KS or NW MO.

What is different?

Ease, time, accountability, ability to reach someone, etc. 

That said, the inspectors are better, imo.

So you've had more success opening a brewery in those other cities than KCMO?  That definitely adds layers of review is KCFD's case.  Did you use bizcare?  I've never opening a business in either, I'm just a city guy who wants to see KCMO improve this stuff is why I'm asking where it could be improved.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 04:14:16 PM
No, sorry for confusion.  Speaking to general construction.  I have never built a brewery.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2015, 04:14:45 PM
KC is the worst.

just curious, what are you comparing KC to in this situation?

in my experience most medium/large cities are "the worst", but the actual worst is a tie between San Diego and Miami-Dade county.

I'm sure the big cities/cities with historical buildings really are "the worst"  I have a friend that is an architect in Boston and building/renovating stuff there is next to impossible.

In my opinion KC is just very understaffed/unorganized so things take way too long. combine that with a lot of construction going on downtown and their plan reviewers are really swamped. In everything I've done with the city for licensing/brewing/liquor control the city has not been very helpful or just plain didn't know how to do something. It's very frustrating that a city practically begging for businesses to come downtown is as unhelpful as it has been, especially coming from a first time business owner.

Unfortunately you are entering one of the most regulated of businesses when you mix in liquor and manufacturing and public spaces.....laws to prevent another Pendergast type probably have a lot to do with it too.
Exactly, I don't mind regulation, but when the government is so unfamiliar with the process that they don't know which forms to complete or how to get what I need it's obviously over regulated.

Tell your story to Usher (via email, etc) if you have time...can't hurt. 

Oh and we'll make it worth your while!!!!  Good luck on the construction.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 20, 2015, 04:15:42 PM
KC is the worst.

just curious, what are you comparing KC to in this situation?

in my experience most medium/large cities are "the worst", but the actual worst is a tie between San Diego and Miami-Dade county.

I'm sure the big cities/cities with historical buildings really are "the worst"  I have a friend that is an architect in Boston and building/renovating stuff there is next to impossible.

In my opinion KC is just very understaffed/unorganized so things take way too long. combine that with a lot of construction going on downtown and their plan reviewers are really swamped. In everything I've done with the city for licensing/brewing/liquor control the city has not been very helpful or just plain didn't know how to do something. It's very frustrating that a city practically begging for businesses to come downtown is as unhelpful as it has been, especially coming from a first time business owner.

Unfortunately you are entering one of the most regulated of businesses when you mix in liquor and manufacturing and public spaces.....laws to prevent another Pendergast type probably have a lot to do with it too.
Exactly, I don't mind regulation, but when the government is so unfamiliar with the process that they don't know which forms to complete or how to get what I need it's obviously over regulated.

Tell your story to Usher (via email, etc) if you have time...can't hurt. 

Oh and we'll make it worth your while!!!!  Good luck on the construction.
I've been in contact with the city Council member for my neighborhood, they've been mildly helpful in getting things moving.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2015, 04:16:42 PM
No, sorry for confusion.  Speaking to general construction.  I have never built a brewery.

It's definitely pretty common to hear with just GC too....then they let badly designed buildings just go through w/o a challenge.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2015, 04:40:33 PM
I can tell you that all cities of any size make permitting v difficult

Los Angeles is brutal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2015, 07:51:18 PM
I can tell you that all cities of any size make permitting v difficult

Los Angeles is brutal

this is actually one area where LA and Dallas are v. different because you can build anything anywhere in Dallas anytime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 07:55:08 PM
I can tell you that all cities of any size make permitting v difficult

Los Angeles is brutal

this is actually one area where LA and Dallas are v. different because you can build anything anywhere in Dallas anytime
That's like a billion things the same and one thing different.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2015, 08:03:54 PM
I can tell you that all cities of any size make permitting v difficult

Los Angeles is brutal

this is actually one area where LA and Dallas are v. different because you can build anything anywhere in Dallas anytime
That's like a billion things the same and one thing different.

100% agreed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2015, 08:45:55 PM
I can tell you that all cities of any size make permitting v difficult

Los Angeles is brutal

this is actually one area where LA and Dallas are v. different because you can build anything anywhere in Dallas anytime

amazon built a billion square foot warehouse in Coppell in like 2 days.  It was amazing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on February 20, 2015, 08:51:47 PM
Texas is pretty great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2015, 08:52:48 PM
too hot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on February 20, 2015, 08:58:00 PM
Too free, more like it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2015, 08:58:38 PM
too texany
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 09:00:01 PM
too hot

Would take at this point.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 21, 2015, 12:13:03 AM
going to have a nuclear power plant put in my backyard tomorrow actually #texas #freedom
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 21, 2015, 08:52:45 AM
Start a Texas master thread you steer roping hicks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2015, 09:43:37 AM
Cancun is moving to where that crap box huddle house used to be! they are gonna do great there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2015, 09:45:23 AM
also have we talked about the westport parking lot development debacle?

Qdoba & Pickleman's :flush:

if you think about it, that might be some of the most valuable real estate in the entire city right now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 25, 2015, 10:40:13 AM
Hearing that the "Taps & Tastes" portion of Boulevardia sold out in ~30 minutes this morning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 25, 2015, 11:18:14 AM
Hearing that the "Taps & Tastes" portion of Boulevardia sold out in ~30 minutes this morning.

not surprising.   I won't return though after last years debacle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 25, 2015, 11:19:46 AM
Hearing that the "Taps & Tastes" portion of Boulevardia sold out in ~30 minutes this morning.

can confirm. right in front of my non-committal eyes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 25, 2015, 11:22:04 AM
My sister texted me at 10:08 and said it was sold out.

What was the debacle last year?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2015, 11:22:31 AM
Mikeyis4dacats probably thought boulevardia was stupid last year
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 25, 2015, 11:27:38 AM
My sister texted me at 10:08 and said it was sold out.

What was the debacle last year?

It sucked crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 25, 2015, 11:30:22 AM
also have we talked about the westport parking lot development debacle?

Qdoba & Pickleman's :flush:

if you think about it, that might be some of the most valuable real estate in the entire city right now.

Should be able to get a good deal on it when Qdoba inevitably closes down.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 25, 2015, 11:33:50 AM
My sister texted me at 10:08 and said it was sold out.

What was the debacle last year?

From what my friend told me: basically all of the same breweries at every beer fest in KC except this one was $75, the ones that weren't available in KC at the time started distributing within a couple months of Boulevardia (Oscar Blues, etc.), ran out of most beers within the first hour, terrible view of the local bands (WGAF?), long as eff lines, only 2 choices for non-sample beers (really sad considering the brewery is ~2 miles away).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on February 25, 2015, 12:26:54 PM
My sister texted me at 10:08 and said it was sold out.

What was the debacle last year?

From what my friend told me: basically all of the same breweries at every beer fest in KC except this one was $75, the ones that weren't available in KC at the time started distributing within a couple months of Boulevardia (Oscar Blues, etc.), ran out of most beers within the first hour, terrible view of the local bands (WGAF?), long as eff lines, only 2 choices for non-sample beers (really sad considering the brewery is ~2 miles away).
the executive summary i got was "it was $75 to drink Wheat and Pale Ale"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 25, 2015, 12:33:42 PM
Hopefully another brewery rises up and can compete with them so we don't have to be super small timey and lose our god damn minds over a chocolate beer and this crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on February 25, 2015, 12:39:29 PM
Blvd could stand to roll back the amount of beers it produces.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 25, 2015, 02:52:21 PM
I can't imagine what would possess someone to buy a ticket to boulevardia
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 25, 2015, 02:56:48 PM
i did buy a ticket to buzz beach ball. is THAT cool enough for you, cf3/tonya?? :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2015, 03:00:16 PM
hey kc guys i'm sure you saw this in the chipotle thread since you read my posts religiously in a non-violent manner, but i'm posting it here too since it's a kc thing and you're talking about festivals
http://chipotlecultivate.com/


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 25, 2015, 03:12:59 PM
i did buy a ticket to buzz beach ball. is THAT cool enough for you, cf3/tonya?? :don'tcare:

Its a start
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 25, 2015, 05:34:04 PM
I can't imagine what would possess someone to buy a ticket to boulevardia

because Cigar City doesn't distribute west of AL and they're one of the best breweries on the east coast.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2015, 10:12:49 PM
also have we talked about the westport parking lot development debacle?

Qdoba & Pickleman's :flush:

if you think about it, that might be some of the most valuable real estate in the entire city right now.

Glad parking lots are going away.....not happy hearing about how poor the building design is....the tenants promised there don't mean much as they will probably shut down soon.  Westport needs to demand better design standards like we're fighting for downtown.  Developers will always take the path of least resistance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on February 26, 2015, 01:59:44 AM
Hearing that the "Taps & Tastes" portion of Boulevardia sold out in ~30 minutes this morning.
Got a VIP ticket  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 26, 2015, 10:34:56 AM
Anyone going to Book of Mormon?  Anyone miss out on tickets?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on February 26, 2015, 10:55:41 AM
Anyone going to Book of Mormon?  Anyone miss out on tickets?
It was really good.  despite the music hall balcony seating is pretty terrible, and their ushers stunk, they were letting large groups in ten minutes in to the show.  It would have been a lot better at Kauffman, but it was still awesome and would see it again.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on February 26, 2015, 11:00:23 AM
also have we talked about the westport parking lot development debacle?

Qdoba & Pickleman's :flush:

if you think about it, that might be some of the most valuable real estate in the entire city right now.

Glad parking lots are going away.....not happy hearing about how poor the building design is....the tenants promised there don't mean much as they will probably shut down soon.  Westport needs to demand better design standards like we're fighting for downtown.  Developers will always take the path of least resistance.
Was talking with an architect about the parking stuff.  He said they got bored in office and took a map of westport first, then all of kc, and said there is more space for parking than retail/restaurant space.  It pretty much confirms what i thought, suburbs make people irrationally  scared of walking around in a semi urban setting.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 26, 2015, 11:12:28 AM
also have we talked about the westport parking lot development debacle?

Qdoba & Pickleman's :flush:

if you think about it, that might be some of the most valuable real estate in the entire city right now.

Glad parking lots are going away.....not happy hearing about how poor the building design is....the tenants promised there don't mean much as they will probably shut down soon.  Westport needs to demand better design standards like we're fighting for downtown.  Developers will always take the path of least resistance.
Was talking with an architect about the parking stuff.  He said they got bored in office and took a map of westport first, then all of kc, and said there is more space for parking than retail/restaurant space.  It pretty much confirms what i thought, suburbs make people irrationally  scared of walking around in a semi urban setting.

http://betterblockkc.tumblr.com/post/96109027894/this-talk-was-given-at-a-local-tedxkc-event (http://betterblockkc.tumblr.com/post/96109027894/this-talk-was-given-at-a-local-tedxkc-event)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 26, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
CF3 when i first saw that video, it made me more angry than any ksu cats bball loss.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on February 26, 2015, 11:46:19 AM
Its crazy kansas city has a pretty neat historical buildings, even though so many have been torn down.  Is there an archive dedicated to what kc looked like historically?  I'd totally check that out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 26, 2015, 11:48:58 AM
CF3 when i first saw that video, it made me more angry than any ksu cats bball loss.

yes. that picture of downtown in the 30s is a boner maker. I hate that the interstates cut through downtown also
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 26, 2015, 12:52:53 PM
Anyone going to Book of Mormon?  Anyone miss out on tickets?

Next weekend. Glad to hear the traveling show is on part with the Broadway version (per the KC star review at least)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 26, 2015, 12:54:30 PM
Its crazy kansas city has a pretty neat historical buildings, even though so many have been torn down.  Is there an archive dedicated to what kc looked like historically?  I'd totally check that out.

Kchistory.org you can search on keywords and even order prints. I've ordered a few for my condo. Come out great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 04:14:52 PM
Crossroads people.  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 04, 2015, 04:51:25 PM

Crossroads people.  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
:ohno:  hopefully the brewery is still good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 04:52:47 PM

Crossroads people.  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
:ohno:  hopefully the brewery is still good

they keep denying my liquor license application. kansas city has the WORST rules for liquor licenses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 04, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
How did the border bros do it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 05:02:22 PM
How did the border bros do it?

Yeah I'm not sure. The issue is I'm asking to serve one beer a month from another brewery, and the crossroads assoc doesn't dig that. BUT border is allowed to have outside beer and wine, so I don't quite understand why they would allow them to have this "privilege" and not me.

Basically this guy thinks he runs the crossroads and makes you agree to what he wants, and if you don't he gets all the businesses to block your request.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 04, 2015, 05:04:16 PM
that blows KCFDcat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 04, 2015, 05:09:22 PM
ill "take care of it" if you want?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2015, 05:15:54 PM
Bribe him

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
Bribe him

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have legit considered this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2015, 05:31:42 PM

Crossroads people.  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
:ohno:  hopefully the brewery is still good

they keep denying my liquor license application. kansas city has the WORST rules for liquor licenses.

check yo PMs.....what makes KCMO the worst?  Sign off by the neighbors?  That seems like a pretty good rule in theory but I could see it causing NIMBY issues.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2015, 05:32:44 PM
Blvd Tavern opened up yesterday.....excited to try it out.

Tom's Town Distillery opening at 19th & Main!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2015, 05:35:51 PM
Bribe him

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have legit considered this.
Would be shocked if a couple grand didn't make this go away.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 05:38:43 PM

Crossroads people.  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
:ohno:  hopefully the brewery is still good

they keep denying my liquor license application. kansas city has the WORST rules for liquor licenses.

check yo PMs.....what makes KCMO the worst?  Sign off by the neighbors?  That seems like a pretty good rule in theory but I could see it causing NIMBY issues.

I've never opened up an establishment in another city, so I don't know first hand if it's the wort. but, my lawyer has repeatedly told me that opening in the crossroads is an uphill battle the whole way. and he's been right.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2015, 05:39:55 PM
Note: have never bribed anyone.  Just know that the guy in question probably makes like $40k a yr.  $2k cash would probably be impossible to turn down.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 05:41:35 PM
Note: have never bribed anyone.  Just know that the guy in question probably makes like $40k a yr.  $2k cash would probably be impossible to turn down.

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I think he makes more than that, since he owns like 50% of the properties in the crossroads...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 04, 2015, 05:42:33 PM
Blvd Tavern opened up yesterday.....excited to try it out.

Tom's Town Distillery opening at 19th & Main!

I work right here Phil, send me pms when you go do this cools stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 05:45:47 PM
Blvd Tavern opened up yesterday.....excited to try it out.

Tom's Town Distillery opening at 19th & Main!

I work right here Phil, send me pms when you go do this cools stuff.

we should have a crossroad pak!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2015, 05:46:28 PM
Note: have never bribed anyone.  Just know that the guy in question probably makes like $40k a yr.  $2k cash would probably be impossible to turn down.

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I think he makes more than that, since he owns like 50% of the properties in the crossroads...
Ah. Misunderstood.  Though it was a city employee.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2015, 05:46:41 PM

Crossroads people.  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
:ohno:  hopefully the brewery is still good

they keep denying my liquor license application. kansas city has the WORST rules for liquor licenses.

check yo PMs.....what makes KCMO the worst?  Sign off by the neighbors?  That seems like a pretty good rule in theory but I could see it causing NIMBY issues.

I've never opened up an establishment in another city, so I don't know first hand if it's the wort. but, my lawyer has repeatedly told me that opening in the crossroads is an uphill battle the whole way. and he's been right.

LOL at your autocorrect to "wort"...true brew guy.  It will be worth it!!!  Hopefully you got Dick Bryant working for you...guy is a stud at liquor stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2015, 05:47:42 PM
Blvd Tavern opened up yesterday.....excited to try it out.

Tom's Town Distillery opening at 19th & Main!

I work right here Phil, send me pms when you go do this cools stuff.

we should have a crossroad pak!

In.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 05:49:29 PM

Crossroads people.  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
:ohno:  hopefully the brewery is still good

they keep denying my liquor license application. kansas city has the WORST rules for liquor licenses.

check yo PMs.....what makes KCMO the worst?  Sign off by the neighbors?  That seems like a pretty good rule in theory but I could see it causing NIMBY issues.

I've never opened up an establishment in another city, so I don't know first hand if it's the wort. but, my lawyer has repeatedly told me that opening in the crossroads is an uphill battle the whole way. and he's been right.

LOL at your autocorrect to "wort"...true brew guy.  It will be worth it!!!  Hopefully you got Dick Bryant working for you...guy is a stud at liquor stuff.

ha awesome, didn't even notice.

It'll totally be worth it, and we're 100% committed to it since we have a 6 yr lease and already well over $50,000 in the building.

I don't know Dick, the guy that's doing it for me is essentially working for free, and has done multiple in Waldo/brookside and plaza, so he's pretty experienced. He's a family friend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
Dick's thing is liquor and strip clubs....he seems to know his way around problems....but can't beat family friends at that price.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 04, 2015, 05:54:56 PM
Blvd Tavern opened up yesterday.....excited to try it out.

Tom's Town Distillery opening at 19th & Main!

I work right here Phil, send me pms when you go do this cools stuff.

we should have a crossroad pak!

In.

name the time and place. I'm on 18th almost every day now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 04, 2015, 06:21:26 PM
I'm drinking in crossroads right now :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2015, 08:13:27 PM
i bet the problem is that dorkstore from grinders, stretch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2015, 08:42:13 PM
i bet the problem is that dorkstore from grinders, stretch

The worst. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 04, 2015, 09:17:25 PM

i bet the problem is that dorkstore from grinders, stretch

The worst.
Sounds like some big shot attorney cats and others need to see what they can do.  Gotta be someone on here in the know or with some pull
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2015, 09:52:41 PM
I'm confident KCFDcat will get taken care of....just sounds like some negotiations with the neighborhood association.  Getting kind of NIMBY down there in the crossroads...lots of $ invested down there people getting a little gun-shy from some prior bars that were shitty neighbors.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2015, 09:54:33 PM
if crossroads only had the leadership that aggieville enjoys #lifeof
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on March 04, 2015, 10:17:06 PM
i bet the problem is that dorkstore from grinders, stretch

The worst.
Can confirm.  Stretch is hated universally.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 05, 2015, 08:51:34 AM
KCFDcat do you need me to kick someone's ass?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 05, 2015, 09:18:13 AM
Stretch needs to go weld a garbage can and stfu
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 09:23:43 AM
I've never met stretch, but I really appreciate his philly's.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on March 05, 2015, 09:33:43 AM
Its crazy kansas city has a pretty neat historical buildings, even though so many have been torn down.  Is there an archive dedicated to what kc looked like historically?  I'd totally check that out.

My building downtown, 1000 Walnut, has a small gallery in the lobby called the Box Gallery. Through April 17th, the gallery will be hosting an exhibit called "Photographs Tell The Story."

Background:

"Cris Wilborn, owner of Wilborn & Associates, admits he doesn't know how many photographs are in his archive. It is probably the largest collection fo Kansas City commercial photography in the world, with over 100,000 negatives and prints spanning the past century. It includes historical panoramas, architectural documentation, iconic sights, and group photos of every size and category. The exhibit tells the story of the Wilborn familiy's history in the photography business and presents a small sampling of the photographs in this immense collection. We hope you like the stories they tell."

www.wilbornphoto.com (http://www.wilbornphoto.com)

NOTE: The Box Gallery is free and open to the public. Open 8am-8pm Monday-Friday. It's in the middle of the lobby that has a round, glass roof. If you have any difficultly locating it, ask any of the very polite security guards and they'll gladly show you the way.

There are some awesome photos of the Monarchs, an awesome amateur shot of Union Station under construction taken by the guy's mother, and many more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 05, 2015, 09:35:12 AM
Lots of downtown stud cats itt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 09:37:27 AM
Do you guys ever go to the peanut downtown? I mean, just the worst service in the world. Dirty plates sitting on top of kegs that are aligned the wall, but I can't stay away. Those wings and that blue chz.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2015, 09:39:22 AM
http://www.feastmagazine.com/the-feed/article_82634b9e-c2b4-11e4-a0d2-df1354629f01.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 09:41:01 AM
http://www.feastmagazine.com/the-feed/article_82634b9e-c2b4-11e4-a0d2-df1354629f01.html
He was on 810 this morning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 05, 2015, 09:42:22 AM
http://www.feastmagazine.com/the-feed/article_82634b9e-c2b4-11e4-a0d2-df1354629f01.html

Picked out his best hipster hat for the photo shoot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 09:45:25 AM
We live in a weird society where eating tacos for 270 days straight is some phenomenon and rewarded.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 05, 2015, 10:09:44 AM
i think it was Abe like 2 pages ago that posted kchistory.org

my goodness i'm addicted to that site now. i live on Warwick, and there are photos and maps from like 1895 of the exact spot my building currently sits
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on March 05, 2015, 10:13:39 AM
Do you guys ever go to the peanut downtown? I mean, just the worst service in the world. Dirty plates sitting on top of kegs that are aligned the wall, but I can't stay away. Those wings and that blue chz.  :love:

You don't go to the 'nut for a white table cloth affair. You go to the 'nut for cheap keg beer and delish wings. The service walks a fine line between absolutely pathetic and charming. It's exactly what I want out of a place of this sort.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 10:15:17 AM
I think I've posted this before, but they do mobster tours downtown. They show you the tunnels they use to work through and you finish the tour at Garozzo's where I'm sure many have been killed.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 05, 2015, 10:16:32 AM
Anthony's feels more goodfellas-y than Garozzo's imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 10:17:22 AM
Do you guys ever go to the peanut downtown? I mean, just the worst service in the world. Dirty plates sitting on top of kegs that are aligned the wall, but I can't stay away. Those wings and that blue chz.  :love:

You don't go to the 'nut for a white table cloth affair. You go to the 'nut for cheap keg beer and delish wings. The service walks a fine line between absolutely pathetic and charming. It's exactly what I want out of a place of this sort.
Well, yeah. Also, between the gay bartender who dishes his hot nights out with the fellas and the ape crap crazy bartender with piercings who has you take shots with him to the point of blacking out and him covering your tab, there's never a dull moment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
Anthony's feels more goodfellas-y than Garozzo's imo
I agree. I like both tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2015, 10:21:58 AM
Anthony's feels more goodfellas-y than Garozzo's imo

i wonder why?   :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 05, 2015, 10:30:01 AM
i miss living right by the peanut downtown  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 05, 2015, 10:31:27 AM
sometimes i would meet a bro for wings at the peanut and lunch break would be like 3 hours because "WE ARE NOT A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT ASSHOLES"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
i miss living right by the peanut downtown  :frown:
It's a tradition for me on Sundays to walk down there for a bloody and some wings. I wish it could have been our tradition.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 05, 2015, 10:39:11 AM
i miss living right by the peanut downtown  :frown:
It's a tradition for me on Sundays to walk down there for a bloody and some wings. I wish it could have been our tradition.  :frown:

it could have! i definitely didn't go there enough when i lived there, mainly because i lived alone and just never felt like walking in by myself.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 10:42:41 AM
i miss living right by the peanut downtown  :frown:
It's a tradition for me on Sundays to walk down there for a bloody and some wings. I wish it could have been our tradition.  :frown:

it could have! i definitely didn't go there enough when i lived there, mainly because i lived alone and just never felt like walking in by myself.  :shakesfist:
Did you live in quality hill? Cause I feel like there's a clique of ppl who know each other downtown. Especially the ppl who go to the quality hill pool in the summer. There's some guy named "social" who's like a drunk monster with a whistle. He sits in the pool all day, blows a whistle and says "social!" which means drink and then yells at ppl to get out of the pool and go to the bathroom because they've been in the pool too long for not having to go to the bathroom. It's great. You eventually see all these ppl out at the same bars around town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 05, 2015, 10:47:34 AM
i lived right by quality hill in the soho west lofts. i've heard the same general thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 11:07:39 AM
i think it was Abe like 2 pages ago that posted kchistory.org

my goodness i'm addicted to that site now. i live on Warwick, and there are photos and maps from like 1895 of the exact spot my building currently sits

:peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 11:10:03 AM
Anthony's feels more goodfellas-y than Garozzo's imo

i wonder why?   :confused:

First time I went to Anthonys the waiter tells a table behind us that he obviously know that "John gotti loved that dish".

Get the jazz dip (most call it Italian butter in kc, not sure why they give it such a dumb name)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 11:11:16 AM
i miss living right by the peanut downtown  :frown:

I have lived a block away for 11 years and probably been to the peanut 12 times...and I love that place. Not sure why I don't go more. Seems I always end up at quaff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 05, 2015, 11:17:06 AM
i think it was Abe like 2 pages ago that posted kchistory.org

my goodness i'm addicted to that site now. i live on Warwick, and there are photos and maps from like 1895 of the exact spot my building currently sits

:peek:

sorry Phil.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 11:21:52 AM
i miss living right by the peanut downtown  :frown:

I have lived a block away for 11 years and probably been to the peanut 12 times...and I love that place. Not sure why I don't go more. Seems I always end up at quaff.
How many times do you think we've been at the quaff at the same time and didn't know it? Also, just knock on my window next time you go. I'm on the first level in the quality hill building to the right of the quaff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 05, 2015, 11:38:18 AM
I'm on the first level in the quality hill building to the right of the quaff.

 :sdeek: i'm there every Friday at 4 pm
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 05, 2015, 11:39:48 AM
:runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 05, 2015, 11:40:55 AM
i mean like, for about 4 1/2 years in a row now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 11:45:27 AM
 :surprised: I'm usually still at work at that time, but I can be there in two shakes once I get off. I'm serious, you guys! Just knock on the window. Everyone else does. I hear drunks walking home all the time! Maybe some of them were you guys!  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 05, 2015, 11:49:06 AM
by "right of the quaff" do you actually mean "left of the quaff"?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 05, 2015, 12:00:54 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:

do you know a guy with long hair and a beard that lives there?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 12:07:39 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:

do you know a guy with long hair and a beard that lives there?
No. I really don't know too many ppl there. Since we're on the first floor and right by the stairway, we don't see too many ppl unless they're letting their dogs out or smoking.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on March 05, 2015, 01:43:08 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:

Is the building that has the balconies between your building and the pizza hut part of the quality hill group of rentals?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 01:44:47 PM
Yes. I believe so.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 05, 2015, 02:04:41 PM
Tell me more about this Social feller...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 05, 2015, 03:01:56 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.101875,-94.588346,3a,75y,248.8h,80.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssLigMrBgZ0LKi_YAIZ81Rw!2e0!5m1!1e4
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 03:23:22 PM
Tell me more about this Social feller...
Big beer belly. Drunk off his ass 24/7. Probably in his early 40's, but still hangs with all the cool kids around the block (probably because he's their main supplier of drugs). Everyone loves him because he's such a goof. He hits on all of our friends every other weekend and never remembers them turning him down. He thinks he's meeting them for the first time. He really doesn't want anyone peeing in the pool tho, so you better watch yo self!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 03:59:15 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:

I used to live in that building. I'm also at quaff every friday. OMG omg omg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 04:01:20 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:

Is the building that has the balconies between your building and the pizza hut part of the quality hill group of rentals?

edit...yes both of those are managed by them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on March 05, 2015, 04:36:33 PM
Lots of worlds colliding in this thread today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 04:36:52 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:

I used to live in that building. I'm also at quaff every friday. OMG omg omg
:D Is it bad that Anthony knows me by name?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 04:39:35 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:

I used to live in that building. I'm also at quaff every friday. OMG omg omg
:D Is it bad that Anthony knows me by name?
Also, OMG you guys! "Crap, I just ran out of booze and I don't wanna get in my car to go get some more!" :Wackyputsonshoesandwalkstothequaff: "Hey Anthony! I'll have the usual to go. How's it been going tonight?!" Anthony: "Real well! BTW, Happy Birthday yesterday. Here's a free drink coupon for the next time you're in. When do your cats play next?"  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 05:14:31 PM
Google maps was trying to catch me naked!  :sdeek:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1012+Broadway+Blvd,+Kansas+City,+MO+64105/@39.101695,-94.588355,3a,52.5y,284h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1szw4uGu2JKX73VdivXViJkQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c0f0594bf079a9:0x986a43bfc220a729!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 06:06:27 PM
Yes. I thought right as when you're walking out of it. There's that little gap between the quaff and my building. I'm far left of the building on the ground level.  :peek:

I used to live in that building. I'm also at quaff every friday. OMG omg omg
:D Is it bad that Anthony knows me by name?
Also, OMG you guys! "Crap, I just ran out of booze and I don't wanna get in my car to go get some more!" :Wackyputsonshoesandwalkstothequaff: "Hey Anthony! I'll have the usual to go. How's it been going tonight?!" Anthony: "Real well! BTW, Happy Birthday yesterday. Here's a free drink coupon chip for the next time you're in. When do your cats play next?"  :love:

Come on Wacky, I'm doubting you now. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 06:38:19 PM
 :thumbs: That's what I meant.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 07:04:03 PM
I'm 95% there tomorrow.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 07:15:53 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 05, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
we looked at an apartment at soho west but ended up in soho south at 16th and walnut.  the quaff was one of my fave spots to go (of course then anton's opened across the street and I fell in love with it).  downtown kc was a really neat place to live, I miss it.

on my wedding day my groomsmen and I went golfing and then ended up at the peanut near the plaza (I think it's the original) for lunch.  the bartenders were complete dicks who took our orders by yelling across the place from behind the bar.  then they found out it was my wedding day and made fun of me and then gave me a shot of whiskey.  the peanut is great, just great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 05, 2015, 09:42:51 PM
what's best place for lunch that I haven't heard of?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 10:06:45 PM
what's best place for lunch that I haven't heard of?

Zaina
Sundry
Ricos tacos
La Sala's
Pezzettino
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on March 05, 2015, 10:08:22 PM
we looked at an apartment at soho west but ended up in soho south at 16th and walnut.  the quaff was one of my fave spots to go (of course then anton's opened across the street and I fell in love with it).  downtown kc was a really neat place to live, I miss it.

on my wedding day my groomsmen and I went golfing and then ended up at the peanut near the plaza (I think it's the original) for lunch.  the bartenders were complete dicks who took our orders by yelling across the place from behind the bar.  then they found out it was my wedding day and made fun of me and then gave me a shot of whiskey.  the peanut is great, just great.

Tony is the greatest bartender of all time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 05, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
what's best place for lunch that I haven't heard of?

Zaina
Sundry
Ricos tacos
La Sala's
Pezzettino

Where is Sundry?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 05, 2015, 10:33:47 PM
what's best place for lunch that I haven't heard of?

Zaina
Sundry
Ricos tacos
La Sala's
Pezzettino

Where is Sundry?

http://www.thesundry.com/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on March 05, 2015, 11:14:11 PM
we looked at an apartment at soho west but ended up in soho south at 16th and walnut.  the quaff was one of my fave spots to go (of course then anton's opened across the street and I fell in love with it).  downtown kc was a really neat place to live, I miss it.

on my wedding day my groomsmen and I went golfing and then ended up at the peanut near the plaza (I think it's the original) for lunch.  the bartenders were complete dicks who took our orders by yelling across the place from behind the bar.  then they found out it was my wedding day and made fun of me and then gave me a shot of whiskey.  the peanut is great, just great.
I lived in the same building back when it was new.
Tony is the greatest bartender of all time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 05, 2015, 11:45:37 PM
we looked at an apartment at soho west but ended up in soho south at 16th and walnut.  the quaff was one of my fave spots to go (of course then anton's opened across the street and I fell in love with it).  downtown kc was a really neat place to live, I miss it.

on my wedding day my groomsmen and I went golfing and then ended up at the peanut near the plaza (I think it's the original) for lunch.  the bartenders were complete dicks who took our orders by yelling across the place from behind the bar.  then they found out it was my wedding day and made fun of me and then gave me a shot of whiskey.  the peanut is great, just great.

Tony is the greatest bartender of all time.

yep probably
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 06, 2015, 12:28:42 AM
what's best place for lunch that I haven't heard of?

Zaina
Sundry
Ricos tacos
La Sala's
Pezzettino

Where is Sundry?

http://www.thesundry.com/
Mrs KCFD works across the street from the sundry. We meet there for lunch at least once a week. Delish.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2015, 07:12:07 AM
https://vimeo.com/120814797
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on March 06, 2015, 07:34:29 AM
very cool
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 06, 2015, 08:04:44 AM
it was hard for me to appreciate that one after seeing the shanghai / ho chi minh city ones that were way cooler

https://vimeo.com/63635193 (https://vimeo.com/63635193)

https://vimeo.com/32958521 (https://vimeo.com/32958521)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2015, 08:08:49 AM
Do any of you like Manhattans? If so, go to Majestic and ask for Sean to make you one. He's awesome. His drinks have been featured in publications many times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on March 06, 2015, 09:50:24 AM
@Wacky we might end up being neighbors. a guy just offered me to be a roommate with him in quality hill town home in june.

Also, anyone have any reviews on townhouse in quality hill?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2015, 09:52:22 AM
@Wacky we might end up being neighbors. a guy just offered me to be a roommate with him in quality hill town home in june.

Also, anyone have any reviews on townhouse in quality hill?
Nice. Our friend lives up the street in a townhouse and I think they're really nice. We go over there for March Madness every year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2015, 11:17:30 AM
I'm 95% there tomorrow.   :cheers:
I gotta pick up my car in Shawnee after work today, so I might not be able to make it this Friday.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 06, 2015, 12:55:38 PM
Do any of you like Manhattans? If so, go to Majestic and ask for Sean to make you one. He's awesome. His drinks have been featured in publications many times.

He is funny to listen get so pissed at people ordering drinks wrong, etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 06, 2015, 12:56:24 PM
@Wacky we might end up being neighbors. a guy just offered me to be a roommate with him in quality hill town home in june.

Also, anyone have any reviews on townhouse in quality hill?

pm me I can help.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 06, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
I'm 95% there tomorrow.   :cheers:
I gotta pick up my car in Shawnee after work today, so I might not be able to make it this Friday.  :frown:

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2015, 01:21:07 PM
Do any of you like Manhattans? If so, go to Majestic and ask for Sean to make you one. He's awesome. His drinks have been featured in publications many times.

He is funny to listen get so pissed at people ordering drinks wrong, etc.
He always hooks us up at happy hours. He's a cool guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 06, 2015, 07:45:03 PM
Headed into quaff shortly if anyone is there!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 07, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
Enjoyed the Green Lady Lounge and YJ's last night. Oh man those biscuits and gravy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on March 07, 2015, 02:28:24 PM
Enjoyed the Green Lady Lounge and YJ's last night. Oh man those biscuits and gravy
Yj's non-breakfast food is the tits.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 08, 2015, 11:10:34 AM
Headed into quaff shortly if anyone is there!

Missed connection...was there until 6'ish Friday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 03:42:57 PM
guess what kc celeb i saw at the park today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
which park?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 04:19:51 PM
which park?

penguin park in the northland
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 09, 2015, 04:25:14 PM

Headed into quaff shortly if anyone is there!

Missed connection...was there until 6'ish Friday.
Was hoping someone was still around. We drank too much. My tab had 18 beers for me and lady BR. Don't remember shooters afterward.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 09, 2015, 04:26:05 PM

which park?

penguin park in the northland
:peek: grew up (high school) very close to there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
which park?

penguin park in the northland

have no idea, never been there. sly james?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on March 09, 2015, 04:33:04 PM

which park?

penguin park in the northland

i have no idea what this is but the combination of words sounds amazing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2015, 04:38:28 PM

which park?

penguin park in the northland

i have no idea what this is but the combination of words sounds amazing

In true Northland fashion, it is disappointing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
HINT: 38 The Spot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 05:01:11 PM
HINT: Tyler Thigpen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2015, 05:02:06 PM
Holly Starr   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 05:02:43 PM
Holly Starr   :rolleyes:

YOU GUESSED RIGHT WACKY!!!!


Wow what a day to be a Kansas Citian
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2015, 05:04:00 PM
holly starr and the northland, just two peas in a canadian pod
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2015, 05:05:02 PM
Holly Starr   :rolleyes:

YOU GUESSED RIGHT WACKY!!!!


Wow what a day to be a Kansas Citian
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2015, 05:06:21 PM
She does a lot of car ads. She was probably up there shaking her thang today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 05:07:06 PM
She does a lot of car ads. She was probably up there shaking her thang today.

She was just playing with her kids at the playground. And by playing I mean ignoring while on her phone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 05:08:44 PM
Imagine if she had been on a playdate with the Watson's girl and her kids. Add some Rodney D Young, Hap Hazard, Johnny Dare, and you'd be at peak KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2015, 05:09:20 PM
ray vincent would be a boss MC for that event
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2015, 05:09:57 PM
maybe gary jozzin can set up a joory stand there?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 09, 2015, 05:10:23 PM
have i ever told you guys my johnny rowlands story?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 05:11:34 PM
maybe gary jozzin can set up a joory stand there?

 :lol:

have i ever told you guys my johnny rowlands story?

this is the perfect time/place for it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 09, 2015, 05:11:52 PM
Holly starr  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 05:13:39 PM
I'd rate that party 10 clinkscales mocat if you really could get ray vincent to MC

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2015, 05:15:55 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 09, 2015, 05:22:27 PM
okay so me and a friend go to party city in overland park. like 135th and antioch, i think. were walking out and boom, theres johnny rowlands. hes got his escalade with license plate "CHPPR 9" and these two girls hop out with him. we go up to him and were like "hey johnny rowlands! can we get a picture with you?" and he looks at one girl, then looks at the other and says, "you kids need to get a hobby" and walks off.

just mushed us for his babes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on March 09, 2015, 05:27:24 PM
I'm kinda disappointed this "penguin park at the northlands" thing isn't some magnificent winter wonderland :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 09, 2015, 06:09:56 PM
Such a Johnny Rowlands thing to do  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 09, 2015, 07:13:23 PM
glad he noted that he was at the penguin park in the northland b/c I walked through the plaza penguin park on my way to potbelly at lunch and didn't see c43
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 09, 2015, 07:47:14 PM
Phillips  66 pak?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
the only Kansas City park worth noting is Scott Parks of 98.1
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 09:00:25 PM
glad he noted that he was at the penguin park in the northland b/c I walked through the plaza penguin park on my way to potbelly at lunch and didn't see c43

That penguin park is way classier.

FUN FACT: the sculptor of those plaza penguins was like Mrs. CF3's Mom's cousin or something I think. I guess its more of a fun rumor than a fun fact
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on March 09, 2015, 10:24:06 PM
Imagine if she had been on a playdate with the Watson's girl and her kids. Add some Rodney D Young, Hap Hazard, Johnny Dare, and you'd be at peak KC

Fun fact: the woman who played Mrs hap hazard drove the school bus little moscribe rode on one year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 09, 2015, 10:32:00 PM
Imagine if she had been on a playdate with the Watson's girl and her kids. Add some Rodney D Young, Hap Hazard, Johnny Dare, and you'd be at peak KC

Fun fact: the woman who played Mrs hap hazard drove the school bus little moscribe rode on one year.

Wait, that wasn't his real wife???????
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on March 09, 2015, 10:35:52 PM
Imagine if she had been on a playdate with the Watson's girl and her kids. Add some Rodney D Young, Hap Hazard, Johnny Dare, and you'd be at peak KC

Fun fact: the woman who played Mrs hap hazard drove the school bus little moscribe rode on one year.


Wait, that wasn't his real wife???????

I know. I'm starting to wonder how good the deals were at sunflower dodge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 10, 2015, 12:23:12 AM
my buddy bought his house from Holly Starr (in the northland)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 10, 2015, 08:10:36 AM
as a huge crystle lampitt fan, i find all of this talk about holly starr really unnecessary and annoying.  she's a has been.
get with the program, lampitt is modern and chic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2015, 08:54:52 AM
There's a circle that leads me from radio sales girl to Tyler thigpen and johnny dare and then to Holly Starr. I'm pretty much as famous as those ppl in the community when it comes to the slaying game.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 10, 2015, 09:02:34 AM
as a huge crystle lampitt fan, i find all of this talk about holly starr really unnecessary and annoying.  she's a has been.
get with the program, lampitt is modern and chic.

thank you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on March 10, 2015, 01:26:24 PM
Dunno about this Crystle Lampitt character... had to Google. That's a fail on her part.

Holly Starr a has-been... #fact
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2015, 11:39:03 PM
I don't think anybody has mentioned it before but bar Louie has great deals and they are right outside pnl
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2015, 11:40:53 PM
If anybody here works there and has already mentioned it, please forgive me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on March 12, 2015, 11:45:29 PM
puni does, but I'll forgive you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 13, 2015, 12:46:48 AM
I lived 6 doors away from Johnny Rowland's until his house burned down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on March 13, 2015, 09:15:35 AM
I don't think anybody has mentioned it before but bar Louie has great deals and they are right outside pnl

We do lunch at Bar Louie either Downtown or Zona Rosa from time to time.  I really like it, honestly.  It's not BRGR good, but it's pretty good for being Bar Louie.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on March 13, 2015, 09:40:01 AM
puni does, but I'll forgive you

haha

sometimes a tastemaker is required to work at a bar right outside pnl that has great deals to get you guys the scoops you need.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on March 13, 2015, 09:42:06 AM
i'll throw in a free elite casual breakfast sammies scoop

mildreds coffee house
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 13, 2015, 10:29:05 AM
I don't think anybody has mentioned it before but bar Louie has great deals and they are right outside pnl

We do lunch at Bar Louie either Downtown or Zona Rosa from time to time.  I really like it, honestly.  It's not BRGR good, but it's pretty good for being Bar Louie.

(http://i.imgur.com/YwgbT16.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on March 13, 2015, 10:34:16 AM
 :sdeek:   IT SUCKS?!?!?!?????!?!???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 13, 2015, 10:39:41 AM
:sdeek:   IT SUCKS?!?!?!?????!?!???

how the hell would i know?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 13, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2015, 11:13:55 AM
I had no idea Bar Louie was a chain so it definitely flew over my head too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 13, 2015, 11:15:00 AM
:rolleyes:

nothing like two bros just givin each other the business  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 13, 2015, 11:17:06 AM
:rolleyes:

nothing like two bros just givin each other the business  :D
:) I was pretty shocked how many times I mentioned BL in the last year. I mean it's good, but not great. Just a cheap option downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2015, 11:18:07 AM
:rolleyes:

nothing like two bros just givin each other the business  :D

Must be combo-fanning season
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 13, 2015, 01:51:46 PM
:rolleyes:

nothing like two bros just givin each other the business  :D
:) I was pretty shocked how many times I mentioned BL in the last year. I mean it's good, but not great. Just a cheap option downtown.

"louie" was the biggest word in your word chart thingie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 13, 2015, 02:09:59 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on March 13, 2015, 10:24:49 PM
:rolleyes:

nothing like two bros just givin each other the business  :D
:) I was pretty shocked how many times I mentioned BL in the last year. I mean it's good, but not great. Just a cheap option downtown.

There are much better places, but it's good if you want to eat a cheap meal.

Mocat, I totally missed the joke, but it's cool.  I usually live life under the whoosh, anyway.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 13, 2015, 10:36:34 PM
Sorry panj I was just joshing ol wackster and you got caught in the crossfire
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2015, 11:01:47 PM
Ate at Sundry today
Not bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2015, 12:15:40 AM
Yeah I didn't get the joke twice because I don't follow wacky around and pick on the poor guy like mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2015, 08:22:03 AM
He's probably brought up bar Louie just outside of pnl with cheap drinks for happy hour about 16 or 17 thousand times on this blog
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2015, 09:50:59 AM
Yeah I didn't get the joke twice because I don't follow wacky around and pick on the poor guy like mocat
:)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2015, 10:29:07 AM
Watching drunk Big 12 fans run into these comicon dorks has been very entertaining this week. What a crap show downtown is right now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2015, 01:54:44 PM
Dark red and yellow tucked in polos. Everywhere. Every gd where
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 14, 2015, 09:27:25 PM
Am I the only one who realizes its worth the inconvenience of fat, stupid, smelly ISU fans everywhere because of the positive economic impact to KC?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2015, 09:28:19 PM
No you're not
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 14, 2015, 09:30:46 PM
ok good. mocat are you having a nice evening?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2015, 10:10:21 PM
Yeah having a great time CF3 how about you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 14, 2015, 10:14:01 PM
I'm doing well. Staying in and chillin'.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2015, 10:19:30 PM
Sporting looked like trash CF3 but I'm still pretty confident. You can go back and read the sporting thread from last year and you'll see that I'm a realist
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 14, 2015, 10:26:43 PM
I think I'll take your word for it. I don't want to lie and say I'm gonna go back and read that thread from a year ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 14, 2015, 11:39:10 PM
Am I the only one who realizes its worth the inconvenience of fat, stupid, smelly ISU fans everywhere because of the positive economic impact to KC?

It's been pretty great....even better that they don't know about the actual great places down here so they don't dork up the neat gathering places.

...not to mention they :kstategrad: me for my tickets to a meaningless tournament.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 15, 2015, 02:21:14 AM
I don't know if it was St Paddy's celebrations, Big 12 tourney or something else, but Kansas City, as a whole, was a rough ridin' shitshow tonight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 23, 2015, 10:40:16 PM
i think we found the next kcpak location

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article16123538.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slackcat on March 24, 2015, 06:04:06 AM
Maybe luked but Kansas City Bier Company.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on March 24, 2015, 07:45:25 AM
i'll throw in a free elite casual breakfast sammies scoop

mildreds coffee house

Family-owned & operated, good people, good spot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2015, 09:10:25 AM
Maybe luked but Kansas City Bier Company.
What about it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 24, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
Blvd Tavern is rising in Phil charts quickly.

-Patio
-Good food
-Fairly good beer list
-Good staff
-Brunch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 24, 2015, 10:13:30 AM
Blvd Tavern is rising in Phil charts quickly.

-Patio
-Good food
-Fairly good beer list
-Good staff
-Brunch

had a night cap (three night caps) there this past weekend. cool place. had an app too, basically just fried cheese, which was obviously good because how can you screw that up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 24, 2015, 10:14:49 AM
intended to try their brunch the next day because the bartender insisted, but was much more hungover than anticipated so that didn't happen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 24, 2015, 11:05:11 AM
intended to try their brunch the next day because the bartender insisted, but was much more hungover than anticipated so that didn't happen.

Their b&g had sunny side eggs on them which I enjoyed!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2015, 11:05:45 AM
intended to try their brunch the next day because the bartender insisted, but was much more hungover than anticipated so that didn't happen.

Their b&g had sunny side eggs on them which I enjoyed!
What in the...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on March 24, 2015, 11:13:32 AM
I don't know if it was St Paddy's celebrations, Big 12 tourney or something else, but Kansas City, as a whole, was a rough ridin' shitshow tonight.

You should have seen my Facebook feed. It was quite the Chamber of Commerce moment for Kansas City. ISU just might move all home games to Sprint Center.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2015, 11:14:57 AM
Maybe luked but Kansas City Bier Company.
What about it?
Yeah, they've been around for awhile now. Pretty meh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2015, 11:35:53 AM
intended to try their brunch the next day because the bartender insisted, but was much more hungover than anticipated so that didn't happen.

Their b&g had sunny side eggs on them which I enjoyed!
just like first watch!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 24, 2015, 12:00:16 PM
intended to try their brunch the next day because the bartender insisted, but was much more hungover than anticipated so that didn't happen.

Keep that noise in Midtown and North KC.

Their b&g had sunny side eggs on them which I enjoyed!
just like first watch!

I don't think I've ever been to one of those. Must be why they are so popular...their B&G implementation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 24, 2015, 12:08:30 PM
Blvd Tavern is rising in Phil charts quickly.

-Patio
-Good food
-Fairly good beer list
-Good staff
-Brunch

will try
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 24, 2015, 12:10:04 PM
intended to try their brunch the next day because the bartender insisted, but was much more hungover than anticipated so that didn't happen.

Their b&g had sunny side eggs on them which I enjoyed!

that's exactly what the bartender recommended
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2015, 12:26:57 PM
it looks like it is really loud and has tiny tables.  very uncomfortable.
i may go for brunch this weekend. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2015, 12:43:50 PM
it looks like it is really loud and has tiny tables.  very uncomfortable.
i may go for brunch this weekend.

Silver back that joint bro
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 24, 2015, 01:12:10 PM
I will say the shwarma dish my dining partner got wasn't too awe inspiring but it was a weird choice anyways. The salad it came with was pretty delish.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2015, 01:38:18 PM
Maybe luked but Kansas City Bier Company.
What about it?
Yeah, they've been around for awhile now. Pretty meh.
Their beer is good, taproom atmosphere is pretty bad, unless you're into weird German culture.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
Yeah, it's not bad, I guess I just expected a little bit more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2015, 01:59:04 PM
falloon has their german wheat on tap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2015, 02:06:27 PM
I've seen their dunkel around town quite a bit, seems to be their most popular beer. They're starting to distribute outside of kc way earlier than they expected, I think the demand for strictly German beer just isn't what they thought it would be.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 24, 2015, 02:18:37 PM
Maybe luked but Kansas City Bier Company.
What about it?
Yeah, they've been around for awhile now. Pretty meh.
Their beer is good, taproom atmosphere is pretty bad, unless you're into weird German culture.

Is that the one that basically has a playground down there for all the BKS brats?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 24, 2015, 02:21:59 PM
the dunkel is pretty good, haven't been impressed on other stuff to order it again
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Maybe luked but Kansas City Bier Company.
What about it?
Yeah, they've been around for awhile now. Pretty meh.
Their beer is good, taproom atmosphere is pretty bad, unless you're into weird German culture.

Is that the one that basically has a playground down there for all the BKS brats?
Yup.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2015, 02:26:13 PM
the dunkel is pretty good, haven't been impressed on other stuff to order it again
I think 95% of people agree with you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 24, 2015, 03:31:03 PM
Which one of the KCFDcat beers will we be most impressed with?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2015, 03:40:14 PM
Which one of the KCFDcat beers will we be most impressed with?

most likely the White IPA or the Rye.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2015, 05:09:55 PM
I've been holding my tongue for a long time about this place. Gonna be awesome!
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/03/24/brewery-emperial-plans-to-join-the-east-crossroads-brewery-boom (http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/03/24/brewery-emperial-plans-to-join-the-east-crossroads-brewery-boom)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 24, 2015, 05:18:07 PM
I've been holding my tongue for a long time about this place. Gonna be awesome!
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/03/24/brewery-emperial-plans-to-join-the-east-crossroads-brewery-boom (http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/03/24/brewery-emperial-plans-to-join-the-east-crossroads-brewery-boom)

Pretty great.  Congrats on the new neighbor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2015, 05:20:09 PM
I've been holding my tongue for a long time about this place. Gonna be awesome!
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/03/24/brewery-emperial-plans-to-join-the-east-crossroads-brewery-boom (http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/03/24/brewery-emperial-plans-to-join-the-east-crossroads-brewery-boom)

Pretty great.  Congrats on the new neighbor.

yup! and Keith is a super nice guy, and an incredibly under-rated brewer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 24, 2015, 05:48:25 PM
mccoys has consistently good beers. their IPA and farmhouse, my heavens sakes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 24, 2015, 06:24:41 PM
true story, mccoys in like 2009 was the first time i ever heard of an IPA and i was like, wtf is that.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 24, 2015, 06:42:26 PM
so many breweries!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 24, 2015, 10:04:09 PM

Which one of the KCFDcat beers will we be most impressed with?

most likely the White IPA or the Rye.
Getting pretty pumped to get hooked on both. What's the latest estimated open date/goEMAW drink the "break in the system" batch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 25, 2015, 08:18:45 AM

Which one of the KCFDcat beers will we be most impressed with?

most likely the White IPA or the Rye.
Getting pretty pumped to get hooked on both. What's the latest estimated open date/goEMAW drink the "break in the system" batch
We're planning to be open by Memorial day weekend, but that is still up in the air.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 25, 2015, 09:33:40 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 25, 2015, 10:03:03 AM
This makes me want to dream again about Kauffman stadium being dropped between downtown and Crossroads.   :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 25, 2015, 10:31:46 AM
This makes me want to dream again about Kauffman stadium being dropped between downtown and Crossroads.   :love:
This is my biggest dream for downtown kc. Would completely change the dynamic of the city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 01, 2015, 04:33:50 PM
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/04/01/doughnut-lounge-will-take-over-imagery-space-in-westport-in-july
:ck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 09, 2015, 06:55:44 PM
 http://m.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2015/04/09/two-light-apartment-building-plans.html?ana=fbk&r=full  (http://m.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2015/04/09/two-light-apartment-building-plans.html?ana=fbk&r=full)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2015, 07:03:14 PM
http://m.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2015/04/09/two-light-apartment-building-plans.html?ana=fbk&r=full  (http://m.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2015/04/09/two-light-apartment-building-plans.html?ana=fbk&r=full)
man it'd be so awesome to never have to leave the power and light district #dreaming #myaffliction #incurable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 09, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 09, 2015, 08:30:56 PM
I can't decide if KCMO is being unrealistic or Uber is just being b-holes.  Probably little of both huh?
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2015, 09:07:16 PM
kcmo is playing the "don't bite the hand that feeds you" game
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 09, 2015, 09:23:44 PM
kcmo is playing the "don't bite the hand that feeds you" game

From the city manger twitter feed
https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/586351951190757376

Let Lyft take over if Uber wants to run away....just something other than Bill George's cab monopoly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2015, 09:52:57 PM

kcmo is playing the "don't bite the hand that feeds you" game

From the city manger twitter feed
https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/586351951190757376

Let Lyft take over if Uber wants to run away....just something other than Bill George's cab monopoly.
that's a great twitter feed
I wish they shared this sooner
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 09, 2015, 10:13:01 PM

kcmo is playing the "don't bite the hand that feeds you" game

From the city manger twitter feed
https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/586351951190757376

Let Lyft take over if Uber wants to run away....just something other than Bill George's cab monopoly.
that's a great twitter feed
I wish they shared this sooner

Agreed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 10, 2015, 09:39:28 AM
They gone!

http://www.kshb.com/money/business-news/uber-city-council-proposed-regulations-and-fees (http://www.kshb.com/money/business-news/uber-city-council-proposed-regulations-and-fees)

Politicians (*Kansas city) is so dumb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2015, 09:54:28 AM
They gone!

http://www.kshb.com/money/business-news/uber-city-council-proposed-regulations-and-fees (http://www.kshb.com/money/business-news/uber-city-council-proposed-regulations-and-fees)

Politicians (*Kansas city) is so dumb

i'm not convinced that they're actually going to leave.  $40k is not a lot of money to a company worth almost $50B.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on April 10, 2015, 09:55:02 AM
Anyone here ever been to a place called Bar Louie?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
Anyone here ever been to a place called Bar Louie?

is that the place that is not *in* pnl, but like, right outside it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
They gone!

http://www.kshb.com/money/business-news/uber-city-council-proposed-regulations-and-fees (http://www.kshb.com/money/business-news/uber-city-council-proposed-regulations-and-fees)

Politicians (*Kansas city) is so dumb

They aren't gone and they aren't going anywhere is my prediction.

I'm actually on the side of kcmo now after reading through this stuff. The regulations are pretty well aligned with other cities uber operates in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 10, 2015, 10:14:48 AM
Kansas City is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for doing this. 

Quote
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - 
Uber officials say the company will stop operating in Kansas City after the city council approved new regulations for such ride-sharing operations.Among other things, the regulations approved Thursday require adequate insurance and background check information from taxis and ride-booking services. It charges individual drivers $250 but that would drop to $100 if a parent company paid an annual fee of $40,000.

The city said the regulations were meant to protect public safety.

Uber said in an email to The Kansas City Star that the city was trying to squeeze ridesharing into antiquated regulations and will eliminate a safe and reliable transportation option.

Mayor Sly James accused Uber of refusing to negotiate because it did not want to be regulated at all.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2015, 10:18:36 AM
have any other cities had these problems with uber?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on April 10, 2015, 10:20:13 AM
have any other cities had these problems with uber?

yeah, quite a few. NE is getting ready to vote on it. Hopefully they don't eff it up....BUT I BET THEY DO!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2015, 10:23:06 AM
Yes. Like every city. They pulled out of San Antonio most recently.

Both sides share the blame IMO. KCMO is probably too influenced by the local cab monopoly...that seems to be a common issue in all cities....but the regs they came up with are reasonable and in line with other cities. uber thinks they can demand from cities what they want passed. I have no problems with the city pushing back...they aren't asking for extreme fees or unreasonable checks if you ask me....and I hate the cabs in this city and would love to see Bill George fall.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2015, 10:24:11 AM
well i'll be, only two posts later and i've had a slight change of heart
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2015, 10:40:49 AM
Anyone here ever been to a place called Bar Louie?

is that the place that is not *in* pnl, but like, right outside it?
oh man, let me tell you about it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 10, 2015, 12:18:14 PM
you pretty much have to regulate it like a chauffer or taxi hack though.   Otherwise the existing taxis would go rogue and become "rideshare".
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on April 10, 2015, 12:33:47 PM
Vegas just pushed them out not too long ago.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on April 10, 2015, 12:36:20 PM
you pretty much have to regulate it like a chauffer or taxi hack though.   Otherwise the existing taxis would go rogue and become "rideshare".

Taxi drivers already do convert in cities it is operating in.  But then they continue there same shady taxi practice and being grumpy assholes and people downvote the hell out of them and they never get rides (or they change).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on April 10, 2015, 01:39:32 PM
Yeah. If there was a taxi service that was even remotely reliable when making a reservation, credit card payment standards, or even having a usable app this would not be an issue.  But mostly, cab drivers are shady, and cab companies inflexible to technology.  After further review i dont mind the uber rules, and they aren't a legitimate barrier to entry for drivers an Uber itself.  I will be pissed if they want use kc as an example, since it's a midsized city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2015, 03:30:51 PM
San Antonio was already the example city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2015, 04:14:31 PM
The idea of regulation is dumb.  Charge them tax and call it a day.  Is this all about the cost of a biz license or is it more than that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 10, 2015, 04:18:22 PM
I imagine having an insured driver could have its benefits.  And having one with a background check might be a good idea.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2015, 04:23:21 PM
The idea of regulation is dumb.  Charge them tax and call it a day.  Is this all about the cost of a biz license or is it more than that?

Nobody can get a straight answer from Uber....sounds like they want to lower the barrier of entry as much as possible to recruit part time drivers...they say they are okay with background checks, insurance, etc. but are always unwilling to share with cities the result of their own checks....which forces the cities to request new background checks, etc. from drivers....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
Like most industries, if there is an issue with the drivers' insurance, I would assume the liability would roll up to Uber as the employer/contractor.

I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2015, 04:26:33 PM
a background check doesn't do anything if there aren't disqualifying factors.  i mean has kc said no former rapers or robbers or molesters?  no felon uberers? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2015, 04:28:43 PM
Like most industries, if there is an issue with the drivers' insurance, I would assume the liability would roll up to Uber as the employer/contractor.

I don't see the problem.

i assume uber drivers will never be involved in accidents.  therefore:

i don't see the problem.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2015, 04:34:25 PM
Lyft has basically said they are now coming to KC (they were in a lawsuit before)....Uber won't leave.  they may not obey the rules but cabs haven't been for decades with little recourse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2015, 04:35:31 PM
man you guys are going to be swimming in creepy losers falling all over themselves to give you rides. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2015, 04:36:04 PM
so lucky.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2015, 04:40:56 PM
All my Uber/Lyft drivers have been either college students or former/current cab drivers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2015, 04:42:25 PM
man you guys are going to be swimming in creepy losers falling all over themselves to give you rides.

Just out creep them out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2015, 04:44:26 PM
Although this one guy did try to give me a foil-wrapped piece of chocolate (it was Valentine's Day). He showed me the bag, which apparently means it could not have been tampered with.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2015, 05:10:21 PM
man you guys are going to be swimming in creepy losers falling all over themselves to give you rides.

Just out creep them out.

look i know uber.  the first thing i do on any new uber ride is get my dick out and jerk off in the back seat.  then they know that i know what's up and we respect each other and there aren't any shenanigans. 

oh you want to drug and rape me, well i just JOed all in your backseat.  we good, bud?  thought so.  #ubered
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2015, 05:11:07 PM
All my Uber/Lyft drivers have been either college students or former/current cab drivers.

sure thing captain porn freak. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2015, 06:21:45 PM
All my Uber/Lyft drivers have been either college students or former/current cab drivers.

have you got the guy on shaggy yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2015, 06:25:33 PM
Not that I know of, but I do not frequent Shaggy.  How do you find the time???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2015, 06:28:10 PM
kickball offseason
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 11, 2015, 02:22:58 AM
Lib is just mopping up itt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 11, 2015, 09:20:37 AM
 :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 12, 2015, 03:52:55 PM
Like most industries, if there is an issue with the drivers' insurance, I would assume the liability would roll up to Uber as the employer/contractor.

I don't see the problem.

most personal auto policies exclude coverage when the driver is carrying passengers for a fee.  I believe uber provides $1 million in liability coverage on the drivers.  so uber would cover injuries/property damage caused by the accident but not the damage to the drivers car itself...and his insurance would also exclude it.  so basically the driver gets mumped the hardest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2015, 04:25:42 PM
Like most industries, if there is an issue with the drivers' insurance, I would assume the liability would roll up to Uber as the employer/contractor.

I don't see the problem.

most personal auto policies exclude coverage when the driver is carrying passengers for a fee.  I believe uber provides $1 million in liability coverage on the drivers.  so uber would cover injuries/property damage caused by the accident but not the damage to the drivers car itself...and his insurance would also exclude it.  so basically the driver gets mumped the hardest.

Unless he purchased the appropriate insurance.  I have a feeling the city's issue is coverage for customers and the other vehicle that may be involved.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 12, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
actually I was wrong, they have a pretty robust insurance policy for their drivers.  not really sure what the city's deal is if they're worried about insurance.  seems more like they just want the fees like they get from the taxis.

http://blog.uber.com/ridesharinginsurance

the only gap there is if the driver is "on call" and doesn't have a passenger in the car, they wouldn't have the contingent comp/collision coverage, but they still are covered for liability by uber if denied by their own carrier (they would be denied by their own carrier in that scenario).  so as a driver you're basically taking that risk but other than that it's really not bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 12, 2015, 05:39:36 PM
Unless he purchased the appropriate insurance.  I have a feeling the city's issue is coverage for customers and the other vehicle that may be involved.

"appropriate insurance" would be a commercial auto policy which is obscenely expensive and not realistic for a part time driver.  uber would cover the damage to the customer (injuries) and the other vehicle if denied by the primary carrier, so that's not really an issue.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on April 15, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
Sharing this link on FB appears to be very Kansas City thing lately.

http://www.movoto.com/blog/opinions/kansas-city-drunk-texts/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2015, 02:22:04 PM
good looking crew

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11160669_1058023627544926_7305171165704016273_n.jpg?oh=a6abf82f0f4ccaca6513372abd00613f&oe=559E7B6D)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on April 17, 2015, 02:38:06 PM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/streetside-uber-is-user-friendly-that-doesnt-mean-uber-respects-you/Content?oid=5095487 (http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/streetside-uber-is-user-friendly-that-doesnt-mean-uber-respects-you/Content?oid=5095487)

This is probably the best summary I've seen. I've been told by a source very close to the situation (not directly on either "team") that Uber is the "bad guy" here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on April 17, 2015, 02:49:48 PM
Quote
In January, a Houston Uber driver who sexually assaulted a passenger was found to have previously served 14 years in federal prison for cocaine distribution.

well there you go. ride with uber and get raped by a drug dealer. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2015, 02:51:36 PM
good looking crew

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11160669_1058023627544926_7305171165704016273_n.jpg?oh=a6abf82f0f4ccaca6513372abd00613f&oe=559E7B6D)

damn it i hate the midwest.
also, props to one checkered van chick for not letting anything get in the way of her wearing her favorite van.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2015, 03:06:19 PM
I went to a bachelor party with lazuli and slim fast once when I worked in radio. Lazuli won $600 playing roulette and then we watched a dildo show up in our hotel rooms. Great times!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2015, 06:15:21 PM
@mocat

http://kcur.org/post/why-its-hard-get-pizza-delivered-east-troost-avenue
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on April 23, 2015, 10:44:11 AM
Quote
In January, a Houston Uber driver who sexually assaulted a passenger was found to have previously served 14 years in federal prison for cocaine distribution.

well there you go. ride with uber and get raped by a drug dealer.
At least it was a rehabilitated drug dealer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 23, 2015, 10:51:35 AM
I went to a bachelor party with lazuli and slim fast once when I worked in radio. Lazuli won $600 playing roulette and then we watched a dildo show up in our hotel rooms. Great times!

So, what did you guys do once the dildo showed up?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2015, 10:58:31 AM
I went to a bachelor party with lazuli and slim fast once when I worked in radio. Lazuli won $600 playing roulette and then we watched a dildo show up in our hotel rooms. Great times!

So, what did you guys do once the dildo showed up?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 23, 2015, 11:05:14 AM
 :D Watched in horror.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 23, 2015, 12:42:40 PM
Was this ever posted?

Lenexa Civic Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupLNoKy_1s&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupLNoKy_1s&feature=youtu.be)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_FacingEast.png)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_FacingWest.png)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_aquatic.png)

(http://lenexacitycenter.com/images/center_main.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 23, 2015, 05:23:48 PM
Uber won't leave. 

http://blog.uber.com/thankyoukc

https://twitter.com/Uber_KC/status/591365687706193921
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 23, 2015, 06:10:55 PM
96.5 DJs are perfect examples of why some people work in radio and others are on TV :barf:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
https://twitter.com/VisitKC/status/595614261126115328
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2015, 02:24:32 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on May 05, 2015, 02:33:31 PM
Moving things away from the city center is everything I don't like about Kansas City.  For fucks sake just demolish Kemper, move Kaufmann stadium there, boom, still have the American royal there.  Or we can put a youth soccer complex there?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 05, 2015, 03:16:07 PM
The American Royal moving to the TRUMAN rough ridin' SPORTS COMPLEX is the most insane and Kansas City things to ever happen in Kansas City.
IMO Truman Complex was/is one of the worst things to happen to the city. Destroyed any chance at a downtown park for the next several decades.  :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 05, 2015, 03:29:01 PM
Was this ever posted?

Lenexa Civic Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupLNoKy_1s&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupLNoKy_1s&feature=youtu.be)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_FacingEast.png)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_FacingWest.png)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_aquatic.png)

(http://lenexacitycenter.com/images/center_main.png)

Wow... I had no idea what all that is. I'm moving about 3 miles west of this down 87th... It will either be really cool having that so close or a real pain in the ass to drive through in the mornings and evenings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 05, 2015, 04:30:16 PM
Was this ever posted?

Lenexa Civic Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupLNoKy_1s&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupLNoKy_1s&feature=youtu.be)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_FacingEast.png)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_FacingWest.png)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_aquatic.png)

(http://lenexacitycenter.com/images/center_main.png)

Wow... I had no idea what all that is. I'm moving about 3 miles west of this down 87th... It will either be really cool having that so close or a real pain in the ass to drive through in the mornings and evenings.

Don't worry, it will never get built. Leneza is broke AF
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2015, 05:46:57 PM
The American Royal moving to the TRUMAN rough ridin' SPORTS COMPLEX is the most insane and Kansas City things to ever happen in Kansas City.


While this is my usual opinion, but in this situation, I think this is a great move.  The BBQ contest needs nothing but a ton of surface parking....we have that in spades out there.  I'm all for Kaufman being downtown (not so much arrowhead, lot of dead empty days) but that's a different problem.  Since we have that space out there, it's a much better spot to house the contest than the west bottoms.  Since that was the absolute last reason to keep those parking lots in an urban setting, maybe they can be repurposed for a better use?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2015, 05:47:54 PM
A lot of local business owners downtown are not happy about this. Including the quaff, Phil.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2015, 05:52:11 PM
A lot of local business owners downtown are not happy about this. Including the quaff, Phil.  :frown:

I <3 Phil, but Phil isn't happy with anything. I never noticed much of an uptick in bars being busy during the BBQ contest....anybody that did go to a bar will probably still head downtown afterwards...unless they get sidetracked by the Adam's Mark hotel bar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2015, 05:53:28 PM
A lot of local business owners downtown are not happy about this. Including the quaff, Phil.  :frown:

I <3 Phil, but Phil isn't happy with anything. I never noticed much of an uptick in bars being busy during the BBQ contest....anybody that did go to a bar will probably still head downtown afterwards...unless they get sidetracked by the Adam's Mark hotel bar.
Yeah, I was talking more about Anthony, but I get it. It was just nice to be able to walk to it from home and pre game.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 05, 2015, 05:54:22 PM
The American Royal moving to the TRUMAN rough ridin' SPORTS COMPLEX is the most insane and Kansas City things to ever happen in Kansas City.


While this is my usual opinion, but in this situation, I think this is a great move.  The BBQ contest needs nothing but a ton of surface parking....we have that in spades out there.  I'm all for Kaufman being downtown (not so much arrowhead, lot of dead empty days) but that's a different problem.  Since we have that space out there, it's a much better spot to house the contest than the west bottoms.  Since that was the absolute last reason to keep those parking lots in an urban setting, maybe they can be repurposed for a better use?
I mean, I get what you're saying. But the AR not being in the bottoms anymore doesn't trigger some mad rush for developers to buy land there. It's still years and years from major development. Needs millions in infrastructure.

They might as well move it to Omaha. I hear they have a ton of parking.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2015, 05:56:59 PM
If there is one thing broken in KC that needs to be addressed, it's the American Royal BBQ contest.

Pfft.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2015, 06:06:27 PM
A lot of local business owners downtown are not happy about this. Including the quaff, Phil.  :frown:

I <3 Phil, but Phil isn't happy with anything. I never noticed much of an uptick in bars being busy during the BBQ contest....anybody that did go to a bar will probably still head downtown afterwards...unless they get sidetracked by the Adam's Mark hotel bar.
Yeah, I was talking more about Anthony, but I get it. It was just nice to be able to walk to it from home and pre game.

No doubt....I loved being able to run up the hill and get a shower in when I was participating as a team.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2015, 06:10:48 PM
The American Royal moving to the TRUMAN rough ridin' SPORTS COMPLEX is the most insane and Kansas City things to ever happen in Kansas City.


While this is my usual opinion, but in this situation, I think this is a great move.  The BBQ contest needs nothing but a ton of surface parking....we have that in spades out there.  I'm all for Kaufman being downtown (not so much arrowhead, lot of dead empty days) but that's a different problem.  Since we have that space out there, it's a much better spot to house the contest than the west bottoms.  Since that was the absolute last reason to keep those parking lots in an urban setting, maybe they can be repurposed for a better use?
I mean, I get what you're saying. But the AR not being in the bottoms anymore doesn't trigger some mad rush for developers to buy land there. It's still years and years from major development. Needs millions in infrastructure.

They might as well move it to Omaha. I hear they have a ton of parking.

I was going to mention this in the prior post...I think developing the west bottoms should be one of the lowest priority we have in the city...that said, that huge parking lot around TCS is a perfect fit for this contest and will work better than the Bottoms...and it keeps it within a $30 cab ride of downtown....we need to start campaigning now for the city/AR to keep a shuttle running from downtown to the contest out there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 05, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Was this ever posted?

Lenexa Civic Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupLNoKy_1s&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupLNoKy_1s&feature=youtu.be)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_FacingEast.png)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_FacingWest.png)

(http://www.lenexa.com/Assets/departments/commdev/images/Civic_Center_aquatic.png)

(http://lenexacitycenter.com/images/center_main.png)

Wow... I had no idea what all that is. I'm moving about 3 miles west of this down 87th... It will either be really cool having that so close or a real pain in the ass to drive through in the mornings and evenings.

Don't worry, it will never get built. Leneza is broke AF

Aren't they building Phase 1 now though?  What is that giant ass building going up behind Perceptive and Lifetime Fitness?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 05, 2015, 09:03:01 PM
Yeah, Idk why they are putting it right next to LTF, but whatever I LIKE LENEXA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
800 room hyatt...sexy
(http://media.bizj.us/view/img/5827741/kccch-rendering-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 09, 2015, 12:34:04 PM
Stud city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2015, 01:21:14 PM
Oh man!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2015, 02:14:21 PM
Yeah that's rough ridin' amazing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2015, 02:14:35 PM
Well be third tallest bldg in kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2015, 02:15:04 PM
Also will fill the hyatt void in kcmo. I wish Steve Dave was here to enjoy it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2015, 02:17:38 PM
If it is going to be all glass, lime it looks, it is going to have amaze balls views.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2015, 02:23:45 PM
Well be third tallest bldg in kc

It's getting a lot of help from the hill it will sit on and rendering liberties....it's only a 23 story building.  Guessing it will be in the top 8 or so though if they keep that huge roof topper thingie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Kansas_City,_Missouri
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on May 10, 2015, 02:19:15 PM
Well be third tallest bldg in kc

It's getting a lot of help from the hill it will sit on and rendering liberties....it's only a 23 story building.  Guessing it will be in the top 8 or so though if they keep that huge roof topper thingie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Kansas_City,_Missouri
Phil Buzzkillitola
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2015, 01:25:05 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/1510481_851199258266556_4384006354411769927_n.jpg?oh=036aeb20654763b0b088fd31a4a52e63&oe=5604E832)

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10404203_851199411599874_6590342501847990563_n.jpg?oh=47f9e59913276fb65f884d0b6f3bad46&oe=55D9CA81)

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/224/974/90330f59_justin-timberlake-jizz-in-my-pants-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on May 11, 2015, 01:39:47 PM
Well be third tallest bldg in kc

It's getting a lot of help from the hill it will sit on and rendering liberties....it's only a 23 story building.  Guessing it will be in the top 8 or so though if they keep that huge roof topper thingie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Kansas_City,_Missouri
I did this same thing right after the announcement came out. If I'm ever a trillion aire you can bet I'll build kansas city's own Burj Khalifa.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on May 11, 2015, 03:14:27 PM
looks pretty dallas-y
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2015, 03:19:11 PM
actually my first thought was that it reminded me of the W in Austin

(http://blog.2modern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/wresidence4.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 11, 2015, 03:19:48 PM
that design looks like it could break in half, this scene from transformers 3 is all i could think about

(https://saturdaynightscreening.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/transformers-3-building.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 11, 2015, 03:21:44 PM
And when it's all finished, the foreman yells JENGA! and everyone runs away.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on May 11, 2015, 03:30:36 PM
actually my first thought was that it reminded me of the W in Austin

(http://blog.2modern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/wresidence4.jpg)

my first thought was W dallas

(http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_2nd/DallasWRendering.jpeg)

do you think austin put up a fight with it looking too dallas-y?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 11, 2015, 03:34:33 PM
"hey did you guys hear about that big gust of wind tomorrow? im glad im not staying at the hyatt tomorrow!"
"ha yeah, I know right!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on May 11, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
Well, a bunch of stuff is going up.  I know that the Hyatt is in the process of being built; we've driven past it a few times in the past few weeks.

I had no idea that this was the big design they were building towards, though.  It always seemed weird that they built all of that stuff out there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2015, 03:36:53 PM
hi Panj, what are you talking about?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2015, 03:38:30 PM
actually my first thought was that it reminded me of the W in Austin

(http://blog.2modern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/wresidence4.jpg)

my first thought was W dallas

(http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_2nd/DallasWRendering.jpeg)

do you think austin put up a fight with it looking too dallas-y?

everything in downtown austin is brand new and shiny and really tall
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2015, 03:40:30 PM
"hey did you guys hear about that big gust of wind tomorrow? im glad im not staying at the hyatt tomorrow!"
"ha yeah, I know right!"

yeah without those glass windows right there, i'm not sure how the building is going to stay up  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
big train, when you wear a midriff-revealing top, what goes through your head when you look in the mirror?

my guess:  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 11, 2015, 03:47:10 PM
actually my first thought was that it reminded me of the W in Austin

(http://blog.2modern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/wresidence4.jpg)

my first thought was W dallas

(http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_2nd/DallasWRendering.jpeg)

do you think austin put up a fight with it looking too dallas-y?

everything in downtown austin is brand new and shiny and really tall

The W in Austin looks much nicer than the one in Dallas (huge, falling panes of glass notwithstanding).  Plus, that black box attached to it is the ACL Live Moody Theatre, which is my absolute favorite venue. 

Speaking of Jenga!  This thing is going up (in ATX):

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCe4MRAWAAAVIh_.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 11, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
big train, when you wear a midriff-revealing top, what goes through your head when you look in the mirror?

my guess:  :horrorsurprise:

if i ever wear a midriff-revealing top im assuming that would be my look
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 11, 2015, 03:53:30 PM
actually my first thought was that it reminded me of the W in Austin

(http://blog.2modern.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/wresidence4.jpg)

my first thought was W dallas

(http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_2nd/DallasWRendering.jpeg)

do you think austin put up a fight with it looking too dallas-y?

everything in downtown austin is brand new and shiny and really tall

The W in Austin looks much nicer than the one in Dallas (huge, falling panes of glass notwithstanding).  Plus, that black box attached to it is the ACL Live Moody Theatre, which is my absolute favorite venue. 

Speaking of Jenga!  This thing is going up (in ATX):

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCe4MRAWAAAVIh_.jpg:large)

the load balance looks fine on that building, architecture wise that is very well done
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 11, 2015, 03:59:47 PM
Looks like a leg and a foot but jenga-y. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 11, 2015, 05:43:15 PM
knee is weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2015, 09:51:29 PM
Austin and KC....fun city bros  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on May 12, 2015, 09:46:15 AM
hi Panj, what are you talking about?

Sorry, the Lenexa stuff.

It always seemed weird that they were building all of that in what seemed like the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 12, 2015, 12:22:56 PM
I played in the annual Catholic Charities golf tournament yesterday in Lenexa. It was pretty elite. 2nd year doing it. It was the who's who of major player Catholics in KC. Soren did a live remote from the tournament too. That course embarrasses my game and it's really sad in front of Ms. Wacky's fam.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on May 12, 2015, 08:27:54 PM
Looks like a leg and a foot but jenga-y.

looks like a Lego guy's leg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on May 14, 2015, 01:00:28 PM
The American Royal moving to the TRUMAN rough ridin' SPORTS COMPLEX is the most insane and Kansas City things to ever happen in Kansas City.


While this is my usual opinion, but in this situation, I think this is a great move.  The BBQ contest needs nothing but a ton of surface parking....we have that in spades out there.  I'm all for Kaufman being downtown (not so much arrowhead, lot of dead empty days) but that's a different problem.  Since we have that space out there, it's a much better spot to house the contest than the west bottoms.  Since that was the absolute last reason to keep those parking lots in an urban setting, maybe they can be repurposed for a better use?

Agree on keeping Arrowhead out east while baseball be Downtown. If only Sporting Park could have been by the river or P&L.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on May 14, 2015, 01:04:32 PM
looks pretty dallas-y

Maybe they'll do an elite park over I-670 like Dallas too.  :excited:

(http://www.madiannedavis.com/uploads/1/7/7/9/17796109/9126657_orig.jpg)

(http://www.kansascity.com/living/star-magazine/3m73wk/picture1221064/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/KC%20Streetcar.jpeg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on May 14, 2015, 01:05:52 PM
pretty sure that's something that's been tossed around for a while

would be cool
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 14, 2015, 01:57:40 PM
Clowning the other midwest wannabe cities like Tulsa, OKC and Omaha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on May 14, 2015, 02:21:13 PM
Clowning the other midwest wannabe cities like Tulsa, OKC and Omaha

I just put them in a different (smaller) category all together.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 14, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
Clowning the other midwest wannabe cities like Tulsa, OKC and Omaha

I just put them in a different (smaller) category all together.

They totally are, but they hate to admit it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on May 14, 2015, 03:13:26 PM
Clowning the other midwest wannabe cities like Tulsa, OKC and Omaha

I just put them in a different (smaller) category all together.

They totally are, but they hate to admit it

Cities like that (and Des Moines & Wichita too) have some good things to offer, but they just aren't KC, Minneapolis, St Louis, etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 14, 2015, 03:31:32 PM
I want to punch in the face whoever had the idea of having interstate's carve up our downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on May 14, 2015, 03:37:57 PM
My favorite thing about cf3 is his willingness to punch people square in the face.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 14, 2015, 03:44:45 PM
My favorite thing about cf3 is his willingness to punch people square in the face.

I've never done it IRL though. I'm a big talker. A big chicken.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2015, 04:33:23 PM
I want to punch in the face whoever had the idea of having interstate's carve up our downtown

what is this i don't
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 14, 2015, 04:37:37 PM
I want to punch in the face whoever had the idea of having interstate's carve up our downtown

what is this i don't

Our downtown would be much more thriving, if I-35 hadn't destroyed half of quality hill, and I-70 didn't cut across the middle. They should've gone farther away from the heart of the city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2015, 04:38:42 PM
I want to punch in the face whoever had the idea of having interstate's carve up our downtown

what is this i don't

Our downtown would be much more thriving, if I-35 hadn't destroyed half of quality hill, and I-70 didn't cut across the middle. They should've gone farther away from the heart of the city
I do like the easy access to and from work tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2015, 04:46:26 PM
well CF3, they are building a giant dallas sized Hyatt on the south side of 670 to access the kauffman center on the south side of 670 and the convention center which straddles 670 so i don't think it's a problem bud  :dunno:

also (and this is more important) you can't have a downtown without highway access, in any city, ever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 14, 2015, 05:42:04 PM
They will cover it eventually
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 14, 2015, 05:51:52 PM
well CF3, they are building a giant dallas sized Hyatt on the south side of 670 to access the kauffman center on the south side of 670 and the convention center which straddles 670 so i don't think it's a problem bud  :dunno:

also (and this is more important) you can't have a downtown without highway access, in any city, ever

670 is god awful and completely unnecessary. you could also do without the 71 to 35 connection on the east side of downtown. There is no need to route the freeways like they did.

SF only has one downtown freeway and it's like a mile from the financial district, and it's impossible to access via freeway from the north (Marin) where tons of commuters live. (transit, yes, but crap loads of those bankers still drive).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2015, 05:56:57 PM
I can't imagine driving from marin co to the financial district every day. That's like 40 minutes if the roads are totally empty
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2015, 09:18:09 PM
Pfffft
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 14, 2015, 09:42:48 PM
I want to punch in the face whoever had the idea of having interstate's carve up our downtown
Here here! It's as stupid as surrounding a football stadium with characterless asphalt as far as the eye can see.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 14, 2015, 09:55:39 PM
I want to punch in the face whoever had the idea of having interstate's carve up our downtown
Here here! It's as stupid as surrounding a football stadium with characterless asphalt as far as the eye can see.

 :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 14, 2015, 09:57:55 PM
I want to punch in the face whoever had the idea of having interstate's carve up our downtown
Here here! It's as stupid as surrounding a football stadium with characterless asphalt as far as the eye can see.

meatgoat lots!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 14, 2015, 10:02:16 PM
Main Street isn't main street anymore, you guys, is what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 14, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 14, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
Look for the north end of the loop to go away before the cap on the south loop happens.  Personally I'd rather the cap first.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 15, 2015, 09:42:44 AM
Look for the north end of the loop to go away before the cap on the south loop happens.  Personally I'd rather the cap first.

The chances of either of these things happening within the next decade is like 0.5%
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 15, 2015, 09:52:49 AM
well CF3, they are building a giant dallas sized Hyatt on the south side of 670 to access the kauffman center on the south side of 670 and the convention center which straddles 670 so i don't think it's a problem bud  :dunno:

also (and this is more important) you can't have a downtown without highway access, in any city, ever

yes you can.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 15, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
I played in the annual Catholic Charities golf tournament yesterday in Lenexa. It was pretty elite. 2nd year doing it. It was the who's who of major player Catholics in KC. Soren did a live remote from the tournament too. That course embarrasses my game and it's really sad in front of Ms. Wacky's fam.  :frown:

Not sure if #fanningbrag but pretty sure so I'll say #fanningbrag.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 15, 2015, 10:40:32 AM
I can't imagine who would be in the "Who's who of catholics in KC". Was it just a bunch of school administrators from Aquinas and Rockhurst?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sunny_cat on May 15, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
I can't imagine who would be in the "Who's who of catholics in KC". Was it just a bunch of school administrators from Aquinas and Rockhurst?

priests and bishops? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2015, 10:54:02 AM
not people who work for the catholic church. just a bunch of loaded catholics is what i'd guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 15, 2015, 10:54:54 AM
not people who work for the catholic church. just a bunch of loaded catholics is what i'd guess

yes, the who's who
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 15, 2015, 11:54:41 AM
i wish downtown KC was only accessible via horse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on May 15, 2015, 12:05:56 PM
Horse as mode of transportation sans being Amish is stud move.

Who's who of Catholics sounds f'ing boring. Abe gets it when he says it's comprised of Aquinas and Rock.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2015, 12:23:04 PM
i don't think it's about catholic high schools. more like all the Visitation heavyweights who had the pull to get rid of the creep in St Joe.

(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/But-Thats-None-Of-My-Business.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 15, 2015, 02:02:25 PM
There were probably a bunch of creeps there like the one in St. Joe, just none of them have been reported yet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2015, 02:07:40 PM
the one i'm referring to was the guy protecting the creeps. you know, the head of the entire arch diocese
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/18/supreme-court-double-taxation/22066863/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 01:20:04 PM
Today, when I was turning right at a 4 way light, a city bus illegally turned left into my lane (instead of waiting for me. I had the right of way) and forcing me into the corner. My back right tire popped on impact and the rough ridin' city bus drove off. What a start to a day.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2015, 01:22:19 PM
Was their light green?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 01:27:21 PM
Was their light green?
Yeah, I would assume so, but the person on the right always has the right away. They should pause until traffic has cleared.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 01:29:32 PM
How many lanes were there in the area you were turning into?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
Two, but he's a rough ridin' bus and has wider turns.

(https://tapyourcommonsense.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/traffic2.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 01:31:37 PM
I'm the blue dot in a one lane trying to turn right onto a two lane. The bus was across the street on a one way rode trying to turn left onto broadway.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 19, 2015, 01:32:43 PM
Today, when I was turning right at a 4 way light, a city bus illegally turned left into my lane (instead of waiting for me. I had the right of way) and forcing me into the corner. My back right tire popped on impact and the rough ridin' city bus drove off. What a start to a day.  :shakesfist:

You got silverbacked by a bus  :lol:

Assuming you didn't get the bus' number, you could report the exact time and location, and they could probably figure out which bus it was.  That is, if you feel like seeking any type of relief. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
I mean, it will be $100 to replace the tire, but it's the principle. Plus, I just got done poring in like $1500 into this car in the last month and a half. At this rate, Ms. wacky's ring is going to be totally financed.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 19, 2015, 01:37:53 PM
This is the wrong thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 01:38:43 PM
What's the right thread? It was a Kansas City bus/thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 19, 2015, 01:48:15 PM
im no traffic/roadway engineer but you didnt have the right-of-way and the bus doesnt have the same laws about turning into lanes as a passenger car does. if youre turning right on red, you dont have the right-of-way to anyone. if you had a right green arrow (highly doubt this) and the bus ran the light, you have the right-of-way.

also, you spelled road wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 01:49:41 PM
im no traffic/roadway engineer but you didnt have the right-of-way and the bus doesnt have the same laws about turning into lanes as a passenger car does. if youre turning right on red, you dont have the right-of-way to anyone. if you had a right green arrow (highly doubt this) and the bus ran the light, you have the right-of-way.

also, you spelled road wrong.
It wasn't a red light, it was a green light. He was facing me across the street. It was off of 11th and broadway.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 19, 2015, 01:53:16 PM
did you draw your map right? I'm confused af.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
im no traffic/roadway engineer but you didnt have the right-of-way and the bus doesnt have the same laws about turning into lanes as a passenger car does. if youre turning right on red, you dont have the right-of-way to anyone. if you had a right green arrow (highly doubt this) and the bus ran the light, you have the right-of-way.

also, you spelled road wrong.
It wasn't a red light, it was a green light. He was facing me across the street. It was off of 11th and broadway.

Your diagram makes no sense then.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 01:55:47 PM
 :frown: I give up. That diagram doesn't make sense. I'm not crazy.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1973880/i-m-not-crazy-o.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
:frown: I give up. That diagram doesn't make sense. I'm not crazy.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1973880/i-m-not-crazy-o.gif)

Did you just post the first traffic diagram that you found online?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 19, 2015, 01:58:49 PM
this makes no sense, even for wacky.

wacky, you need to get rid of your vehicle, it's a money pit.  buy a bicycle and never leave downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:00:09 PM
:frown: I give up. That diagram doesn't make sense. I'm not crazy.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1973880/i-m-not-crazy-o.gif)

Did you just post the first traffic diagram that you found online?
Yes.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
this makes no sense, even for wacky.

wacky, you need to get rid of your vehicle, it's a money pit.  buy a bicycle and never leave downtown
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 19, 2015, 02:03:00 PM
The diagram made perfect sense to me after I applied the actual facts to it and ignored the diagram.  It really helped me visualize an intersection, though, to be fair.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 02:04:10 PM
The diagram made perfect sense to me after I applied the actual facts to it and ignored the diagram.  It really helped me visualize an intersection, though, to be fair.

The diagram didn't even have the right number of lanes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 19, 2015, 02:05:37 PM
im no traffic/roadway engineer but you didnt have the right-of-way and the bus doesnt have the same laws about turning into lanes as a passenger car does. if youre turning right on red, you dont have the right-of-way to anyone. if you had a right green arrow (highly doubt this) and the bus ran the light, you have the right-of-way.

also, you spelled road wrong.
It wasn't a red light, it was a green light. He was facing me across the street. It was off of 11th and broadway.

ah, so you both had greens? okay well in that case its the bus' fault, he has to yield to any oncoming traffic. sorry about your car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Broadway+St+%26+W+11th+St,+Kansas+City,+MO+64105/@39.10102,-94.588385,3a,90y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgcHiNbssrWfZkPs6eEJprQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c0f05954856cc7:0x4f667f6b1ae8f8f5!6m1!1e1

That's what I was starring at. With the bus in the middle lane of that pic. I was turning right obviously, because you can't drive fwd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:06:14 PM
im no traffic/roadway engineer but you didnt have the right-of-way and the bus doesnt have the same laws about turning into lanes as a passenger car does. if youre turning right on red, you dont have the right-of-way to anyone. if you had a right green arrow (highly doubt this) and the bus ran the light, you have the right-of-way.

also, you spelled road wrong.
It wasn't a red light, it was a green light. He was facing me across the street. It was off of 11th and broadway.

ah, so you both had greens? okay well in that case its the bus' fault, he has to yield to any oncoming traffic. sorry about your car.
Thanks, bud. Yes, that's what happened.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 19, 2015, 02:08:52 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Broadway+St+%26+W+11th+St,+Kansas+City,+MO+64105/@39.10102,-94.588385,3a,90y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgcHiNbssrWfZkPs6eEJprQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c0f05954856cc7:0x4f667f6b1ae8f8f5!6m1!1e1

That's what I was starring at. With the bus in the middle lane of that pic. I was turning right obviously, because you can't drive fwd.

ahh, so the bus had a left turn yield on green?  Sounds like you can screw them to the wall then.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 02:09:31 PM
It sounds like Wacky should have turned into his lane (far right) and the bus should have turned into its lane (far left) at the same time...and if that was impossible for the bus then it should have waited...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:10:49 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Broadway+St+%26+W+11th+St,+Kansas+City,+MO+64105/@39.10102,-94.588385,3a,90y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgcHiNbssrWfZkPs6eEJprQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c0f05954856cc7:0x4f667f6b1ae8f8f5!6m1!1e1

That's what I was starring at. With the bus in the middle lane of that pic. I was turning right obviously, because you can't drive fwd.

ahh, so the bus had a left turn yield on green?  Sounds like you can screw them to the wall then.
Yes, but where do I start? Who do I reach out to?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:11:38 PM
It sounds like Wacky should have turned into his lane (far right) and the bus should have turned into its lane (far left) at the same time...and if that was impossible for the bus then it should have waited...
Yeah, but it wasn't, because the bus was trying to beat me to the spot for some reason.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 19, 2015, 02:12:59 PM
sounds like you need an esq to get you a new car out of this harrowing ordeal :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 19, 2015, 02:14:00 PM
probably should have just ran into the bus and totaled your car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 02:14:19 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Broadway+St+%26+W+11th+St,+Kansas+City,+MO+64105/@39.10102,-94.588385,3a,90y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgcHiNbssrWfZkPs6eEJprQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c0f05954856cc7:0x4f667f6b1ae8f8f5!6m1!1e1

That's what I was starring at. With the bus in the middle lane of that pic. I was turning right obviously, because you can't drive fwd.

ahh, so the bus had a left turn yield on green?  Sounds like you can screw them to the wall then.
Yes, but where do I start? Who do I reach out to?

Do those buses have one of those "How is my driving?" stickers on the back?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:17:04 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Broadway+St+%26+W+11th+St,+Kansas+City,+MO+64105/@39.10102,-94.588385,3a,90y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgcHiNbssrWfZkPs6eEJprQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c0f05954856cc7:0x4f667f6b1ae8f8f5!6m1!1e1

That's what I was starring at. With the bus in the middle lane of that pic. I was turning right obviously, because you can't drive fwd.

ahh, so the bus had a left turn yield on green?  Sounds like you can screw them to the wall then.
Yes, but where do I start? Who do I reach out to?

Do those buses have one of those "How is my driving?" stickers on the back?
Probably, but I was too busy trying not to get smashed, so I never saw it.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 02:18:32 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Broadway+St+%26+W+11th+St,+Kansas+City,+MO+64105/@39.10102,-94.588385,3a,90y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgcHiNbssrWfZkPs6eEJprQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c0f05954856cc7:0x4f667f6b1ae8f8f5!6m1!1e1

That's what I was starring at. With the bus in the middle lane of that pic. I was turning right obviously, because you can't drive fwd.

ahh, so the bus had a left turn yield on green?  Sounds like you can screw them to the wall then.
Yes, but where do I start? Who do I reach out to?

Do those buses have one of those "How is my driving?" stickers on the back?
Probably, but I was too busy drying not to get smashed, so I never saw it.  :frown:

Well look for another bus and call the number on the sticker.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 19, 2015, 02:22:48 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Broadway+St+%26+W+11th+St,+Kansas+City,+MO+64105/@39.10102,-94.588385,3a,90y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgcHiNbssrWfZkPs6eEJprQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c0f05954856cc7:0x4f667f6b1ae8f8f5!6m1!1e1

That's what I was starring at. With the bus in the middle lane of that pic. I was turning right obviously, because you can't drive fwd.

ahh, so the bus had a left turn yield on green?  Sounds like you can screw them to the wall then.
Yes, but where do I start? Who do I reach out to?

Commendations & Complaints 816-221-0660
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:29:48 PM
Thank you! :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 19, 2015, 02:30:26 PM
put the call on speakerphone so we can all listen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2015, 02:35:15 PM
put the call on speakerphone so we can all listen

and write an accurate transcript so those of us who dont want to listen can read it at our leisure if we feel like it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:40:44 PM
 :lol: Once I was transferred, I was immediately hung up on without making a peep.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 19, 2015, 02:43:20 PM
britt mchenry these losers.  bring up Hackers if you have to
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
I just told my story to a operator and she said she'd hand it to her supervisor asap. She kept asking me if I had the bus number and I was like: "I was too busy trying to avoid getting hit by your bus. I didn't exactly think about it at the time." Nothing will happen.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 19, 2015, 02:45:53 PM
I just told my story to a operator and she said she'd hand it to her supervisor asap. She kept asking me if I had the bus number and I was like: "I was too busy trying to avoid getting hit by your bus. I didn't exactly think about it at the time." Nothing will happen.  :lol:

Did you tell her the precise time and location?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 19, 2015, 02:49:48 PM
I just told my story to a operator and she said she'd hand it to her supervisor asap. She kept asking me if I had the bus number and I was like: "I was too busy trying to avoid getting hit by your bus. I didn't exactly think about it at the time." Nothing will happen.  :lol:

Did you tell her the precise time and location?
Yes. I repeated 11th and Broadway at 11:40am like 5 times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2015, 07:12:29 PM
well this thread went exactly as i had hoped
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 21, 2015, 09:43:20 AM
Look for the north end of the loop to go away before the cap on the south loop happens.  Personally I'd rather the cap first.

The chances of either of these things happening within the next decade is like 0.5%

I pray for odds that good if talking 10 years. I could see partial caps coming for the South loop as projects like the Hyatt get built. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 21, 2015, 09:45:28 AM
I just told my story to a operator and she said she'd hand it to her supervisor asap. She kept asking me if I had the bus number and I was like: "I was too busy trying to avoid getting hit by your bus. I didn't exactly think about it at the time." Nothing will happen.  :lol:

Did you tell her the precise time and location?
Yes. I repeated 11th and Broadway at 11:40am like 5 times.

Lots of routes use that turn... Usually dangerously. I usually send complaints right to their twitter account... They seem to be receptive through that channel.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 21, 2015, 09:46:20 AM
I recommend calling back and using the term "$!#* punt".  It's basically a power phrase that gets you want you want at all times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 28, 2015, 05:54:02 PM
Big 12 tourney through 2020!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 28, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 28, 2015, 06:30:53 PM
It will go back to dallas once shaka has texas whipping ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on May 28, 2015, 07:19:57 PM
Big 12 tourney through 2020!
Dammit,  my source on all kc sports things  is out of town.  Normally, I'd have scooped this for goEMAW.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 28, 2015, 09:30:31 PM
Big 12 tourney through 2020!
Dammit,  my source on all kc sports things  is out of town.  Normally, I'd have scooped this for goEMAW.

what, they don't have phones out of town?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on May 28, 2015, 09:35:17 PM
Big 12 tourney through 2020!
Dammit,  my source on all kc sports things  is out of town.  Normally, I'd have scooped this for goEMAW.

what, they don't have phones out of town?
I've already said too much...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2015, 05:19:51 PM
http://www.city-data.com/forum/kansas-city/2370788-kansas-city-development-construction-thread.html

my goodness, looks like MHK has really rubbed off on KC

#blessed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 31, 2015, 03:35:12 PM
I couldn't get a picture..But, a early 2000's Honda Civic coupe with vanity plate reading "MR JOCO", complete with KU Alumni plate frame.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 31, 2015, 03:55:15 PM

http://www.city-data.com/forum/kansas-city/2370788-kansas-city-development-construction-thread.html

my goodness, looks like MHK has really rubbed off on KC

#blessed

Where are they going to find the people to fill all those condos and appts, and where will they work?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 01, 2015, 11:20:38 AM
https://twitter.com/VisitKC/status/605387991062859776
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on June 01, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
Wacky, please tell me you did this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 01, 2015, 11:40:35 AM
Wacky, please tell me you did this.
I wish. I mean, when did they even announce they were doing it here?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on June 02, 2015, 06:55:14 AM
OMG KC is the test market for chorizo in Chipotle. Will test for lunch and report back. I'm so happy.

http://www.kansascity.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/chow-town/article22817082.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 08:54:58 AM
Welp, guess I need to find my way to a Chipotle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 09:50:24 AM
Should be in the stud thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 02, 2015, 10:14:21 AM
i may have to make a trip to KC to try
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 02, 2015, 10:28:39 AM
We are so blessed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on June 02, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
(http://www.kansascity.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/chow-town/d2zjgz/picture22817076/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/CMG_Chorizo_Burrito_4x6%5B2%5D)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 11:41:38 AM
Thinking that there would be waaay too much chorizo and a mix with half chorizo and half chicken would be ideal and not require diarrhea meds later. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 02, 2015, 12:44:17 PM
yeah, this doesn't sound that great tbh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2015, 12:45:12 PM
yeah, this doesn't sound that great tbh

OMG jealous much  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on June 02, 2015, 12:47:57 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 12:49:20 PM
Someone drive a jelly burrito out to ITCH manhattan for 'bias
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 02, 2015, 12:53:56 PM
make sure theres lots of the GREEN salsa on 'bias' b'reet.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on June 02, 2015, 08:53:52 PM
Had chorizo chipotle. Pretty good. More burnt n chunky than I expected. Like they purposely charred it so it didn't crumble like ground beef. Good spice. Great mixed with chicken.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 02, 2015, 08:55:04 PM
it's settled, I'm making a trip to KC to try this rough rider
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 02, 2015, 09:12:41 PM

Had chorizo chipotle. Pretty good. More burnt n chunky than I expected. Like they purposely charred it so it didn't crumble like ground beef. Good spice. Great mixed with chicken.

the good news is it's already made of a bunch of chicken
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 09:20:40 PM
Chicken chorizo?   What the hell is going on here?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 02, 2015, 09:23:54 PM

Chicken chorizo?   What the hell is going on here?

unless they've changed, their last non-breakfast chorizo was a mix of chicken and pork
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 09:25:30 PM
guys, i honestly have no idea what chorizo is or if it is or isn't chicken,  but kk made me eat some once at bolo's in some sort of cheese dip thing and it was pretty rough ridin' good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 09:27:30 PM
It's a kind of pork or beef sausage.  I think it was traditionally pork, but you can get beef in the common brands. 

Chicken chorizo sounds pretty great, though.  Chorizo ' s one downside is how greasy it can be.  Chicken would help solve that.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 02, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
agreed.  i usually am not a big fan of the usual chorizo burrito-type things you run across because it's just a super greasy product.  will give it a try
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2015, 09:37:09 PM
Chorizo is Mexican Italian sausage where 25% of the mass is made up of cooked chilis
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on June 02, 2015, 10:10:22 PM
It's chicken and pork at chipotle. I found it to be a good mix where the heat and spice was there but not the red grease running everywhere like some chorizo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 02, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
OMG KC is the test market for chorizo in Chipotle. Will test for lunch and report back. I'm so happy.

http://www.kansascity.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/chow-town/article22817082.html

This is one blessed city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2015, 10:55:05 PM
It is drier than your average 'izo so don't forget to load up on sauce. Also spicier than i expected.  It would be great with eggs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 02, 2015, 10:57:32 PM
I agree, it was more crispy than greasy. Pretty good but no barbacoa. It was 6.95 but the register girl thought the "C" was chicken so she rang it up as chicken for 6.50 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 02, 2015, 11:00:04 PM
I'll judge it by my own super taste buds :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 02, 2015, 11:11:00 PM
so chipotle stops with carnitas cause pork shortage and then starts up chorizo and charges more for it than other menu items? wow. good job chipotle. giving people a cheaper product to produce and simultaneously charging them more at the same time.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on June 03, 2015, 10:36:45 AM

http://www.city-data.com/forum/kansas-city/2370788-kansas-city-development-construction-thread.html

my goodness, looks like MHK has really rubbed off on KC

#blessed

Where are they going to find the people to fill all those condos and appts, and where will they work?

DNR the link, but residential occupancy in the downtown loop is 98%. For the 300+ units in One Light Tower, mroe than 1,200 people placed there name on the list. That momentum led to a quick announcment of Two Light with plans underway for the third building. On top of that, there are numerous projects on the riverfront in development phases. There are a lot of people interested in living downtown...even many who don't work in the loop.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2015, 10:39:51 AM
http://www.lookylocal.com/real-estate/top-15-best-places-to-live/16/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on June 03, 2015, 11:06:57 AM
There are already plenty of great chorizo burritos and tacos around guys.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on June 03, 2015, 11:17:51 AM
There are already plenty of great chorizo burritos and tacos around guys.
we need an Existing Great Chirizo and Where to Buy It thread, then. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on June 03, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
bonito michuacan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
i forgot to watch or dvr kansas city ninja warrior.

i guess ill catch it on the esquire network in 8 months
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2015, 12:52:57 PM
so chipotle stops with carnitas cause pork shortage and then starts up chorizo and charges more for it than other menu items? wow. good job chipotle. giving people a cheaper product to produce and simultaneously charging them more at the same time.  :thumbs:

you know what would taste great smeared all over this post?
how about a nice jar of CHIPOTLE JELLY

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/3531937007_9c6c75808c.jpg)

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on June 03, 2015, 12:57:03 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 03, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
lulz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2015, 05:21:31 PM
i forgot to watch or dvr kansas city ninja warrior.

i guess ill catch it on the esquire network in 8 months

oh here it is. know anybody?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 03, 2015, 06:40:05 PM
i forgot to watch or dvr kansas city ninja warrior.

i guess ill catch it on the esquire network in 8 months

oh here it is. know anybody?

I watched it, was one of the best ive seen. Lots of great story lines.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2015, 10:24:22 PM
Oh hai wet Willie.

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/223/c/1/Jelly_ninja_by_BakurasFluffyKitty.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 04, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
Had chorizo chipotle. Pretty good. More burnt n chunky than I expected. Like they purposely charred it so it didn't crumble like ground beef. Good spice. Great mixed with chicken.

I did half chicken/half chorizo.

I really liked it.

The lines were nuts.  There were at least 40 people in line at one point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 05, 2015, 07:23:13 AM
Hey PNW you can come get your rain at any time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 17, 2015, 04:14:39 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11406614_866450533438796_8119744549170412344_n.jpg?oh=62787f0a2102359fb386b9cb0f9c5623&oe=55F194B2)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2015, 05:17:12 PM
Cool pic but I can't get down with the building naming theme of one/two/three light.  Better than One Live! I guess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on June 17, 2015, 09:35:04 PM
Why is there a potted tree on the roof?  Also, I bet it's very satisfying to take a dump up there and then walk out to that view.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 17, 2015, 09:38:16 PM
Topping out tree im guessing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on June 17, 2015, 09:41:11 PM
Topping out tree im guessing

Low Construction IQ.  Is that a tradition?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2015, 09:42:21 PM
Topping out tree im guessing

Low Construction IQ.  Is that a tradition?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=topping+out+tree
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on June 17, 2015, 09:43:50 PM
I learned something today!  :party:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2015, 09:49:34 PM
I learned something today!  :party:

...and i helped!  Weird tradition.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 18, 2015, 02:20:07 AM
One Light sounds like the name of a Christian Rock song
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 21, 2015, 05:09:59 PM
Shelling out the few extra bones to get VIP for Taps & Tastes is completely worth it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 21, 2015, 05:17:05 PM
like, i think waks downed a dozen oysters and i was on the verge of time traveling in the hour we had before taps and tastes opened up to everybody else.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
like, i think waks downed a dozen oysters and i was on the verge of time traveling in the hour we had before taps and tastes opened up to everybody else.

Good to know...maybe have to try some Boulvardia next year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 22, 2015, 10:42:12 AM
Shelling out the few extra bones to get VIP for Taps & Tastes is completely worth it.

My coworker burned a vacation day just so he could sit at the computer at home to buy these tickets when they went on sale months ago. Is that worth it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on June 22, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Shelling out the few extra bones to get VIP for Taps & Tastes is completely worth it.

My coworker burned a vacation day just so he could sit at the computer at home to buy these tickets when they went on sale months ago. Is that worth it?
Do you guys not have computers at your work?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 22, 2015, 12:22:42 PM
We do, several of them in fact. Which made it even weirder to me. I guess he was afraid of being stuck in a meeting? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 22, 2015, 12:26:10 PM
We do, several of them in fact. Which made it even weirder to me. I guess he was afraid of being stuck in a meeting? :dunno:
I've ordered tickets right as they went on sale on my phone, from a meeting. True story.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 22, 2015, 12:29:27 PM
how do you know if someone went to taps & tastes?



dont worry. theyll tell you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2015, 01:15:29 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 22, 2015, 02:04:41 PM
how do you know if someone went to taps & tastes?



dont worry. theyll tell you.

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 22, 2015, 05:47:31 PM
how do you know if someone went to taps & tastes?



dont worry. theyll tell you.

Omg :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 22, 2015, 05:48:39 PM
We do, several of them in fact. Which made it even weirder to me. I guess he was afraid of being stuck in a meeting? :dunno:
I've ordered tickets right as they went on sale on my phone, from a meeting. True story.

Interesting. I'll have to ask him if he has a phone or not
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 22, 2015, 06:03:40 PM
If there's someone who could find a way to hate drinking beer and eating food, it's TTHOTUC. I mean what in the world.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
While I know nothing about this event, you can drink beer and eat food any time you want without buying tickets in a meeting or even taking a day off of work to but tickets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 22, 2015, 07:53:51 PM
While I know nothing about this event, you can drink beer and eat food any time you want without buying tickets in a meeting or even taking a day off of work to but tickets.

No one is acting like that person doesn't suck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2015, 08:45:17 PM
J Alexander's has deviled eggs on the menu now, and they are the very best I have ever had.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 22, 2015, 10:02:58 PM
I bought my ticket for face value off some guy on twitter the day of.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 22, 2015, 11:58:34 PM
And then I found out he only went to taps and tastes and skipped the rest of the weekend :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 23, 2015, 08:51:08 AM
If there's someone who could find a way to hate drinking beer and eating food, it's TTHOTUC. I mean what in the world.

"'Meister how packed is it down there?"
"Well taps & tastes is pretty packed"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 23, 2015, 10:21:25 AM
I see its that time of year again where the city power drills on the downtown sidewalks that they fixed the year before and the year before that, right outside your window. Awesome. Sweet times!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on June 23, 2015, 03:34:20 PM
 :driving: :zzz: :surprised:
http://www.kmbc.com/news/couple-tells-kc-police-fake-uber-driver-took-them-for-ride/33727164
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on June 23, 2015, 03:46:12 PM
Fake Uber drivers are not a Kansas City thing.  That happens everywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2015, 07:20:15 PM
Running around KU bball fans waddle into the Sprint Center in the middle of summer to watch basketball v. Frenchies.... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on June 23, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
Running around KU bball fans waddle into the Sprint Center in the middle of summer to watch basketball v. Frenchies.... :facepalm:

Pretty great that KU was selected to represent the United States on the world stage #Blessed #CanadaBTW
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 23, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
hopefully they just talk about basketball
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 24, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/the-five-best-and-worst-cities-for-families/ar-AAbHj2G#image=AAbHPOz|1
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 24, 2015, 06:44:37 PM
If there's someone who could find a way to hate drinking beer and eating food, it's TTHOTUC. I mean what in the world.

"'Meister how packed is it down there?"
"Well taps & tastes is pretty packed"

I wasn't in the area of the rest of the blvdia grounds. I was only relaying the info that I had. Perhaps I should have said "idk, eff off you limp dicked joker".
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on June 24, 2015, 06:55:52 PM
taps and tastes is a real fuckface of a name.  Kick you in the sack, spit in your mouth awful. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on June 24, 2015, 06:56:37 PM
Beers and bites!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on June 24, 2015, 06:57:13 PM
Suds and sides!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2015, 06:57:53 PM
ale and appetizers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mr Bread on June 24, 2015, 07:00:48 PM
Fucks and faces!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on June 24, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
If there's someone who could find a way to hate drinking beer and eating food, it's TTHOTUC. I mean what in the world.

"'Meister how packed is it down there?"
"Well taps & tastes is pretty packed"

I wasn't in the area of the rest of the blvdia grounds. I was only relaying the info that I had. Perhaps I should have said "idk, eff off you limp dicked joker".

hindsight is always 20/20   :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 26, 2015, 05:24:14 PM
omg. they better bring chorizo to the nation and not just in KC :lick:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 27, 2015, 01:20:27 PM
the container store grand opening today :excited:

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 27, 2015, 02:10:40 PM
Is it really a store with nothing but containers?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 27, 2015, 02:14:11 PM
they have other things too, but mostly just containers in millions(billions?) of different sizes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 27, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
they have other things too, but mostly just containers in millions(billions?) of different sizes

Very KC to get excited about this....Fox 4 had news stories!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 27, 2015, 03:59:54 PM
they have other things too, but mostly just containers in millions(billions?) of different sizes

Very KC to get excited about this....Fox 4 had news stories!

never been to one but saw some videos on their business model once, and as a non-KC resident you rough ridin' bet i was excited!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 27, 2015, 04:25:07 PM
they have other things too, but mostly just containers in millions(billions?) of different sizes

Very KC to get excited about this....Fox 4 had news stories!

never been to one but saw some videos on their business model once, and as a non-KC resident you rough ridin' bet i was excited!

I wasn't meaning your excitement...the overall super excitement of the KC populous.  Ikea I get.  Top Golf I get....Container Store? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 27, 2015, 04:32:27 PM
they have other things too, but mostly just containers in millions(billions?) of different sizes

Very KC to get excited about this....Fox 4 had news stories!

never been to one but saw some videos on their business model once, and as a non-KC resident you rough ridin' bet i was excited!

I wasn't meaning your excitement...the overall super excitement of the KC populous.  Ikea I get.  Top Golf I get....Container Store?

i drove by topgolf today too! I was also pretty rough ridin' excited about that! am i a KC wannabe  :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on June 27, 2015, 06:41:45 PM
I live about 5 minutes from a TopGolf and have spent thousands of dollars there.  I also live about 2 minutes from a The Container Store and have spent maybe $25 there.  I live about 15 minutes from an Ikea and have spent $0 there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 27, 2015, 06:46:56 PM
I live about 5 minutes from a TopGolf and have spent thousands of dollars there.  I also live about 2 minutes from a The Container Store and have spent maybe $25 there.  I live about 15 minutes from an Ikea and have spent $0 there.

computing location

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on June 27, 2015, 07:36:09 PM
Top Golf is literally in the other side of the road from where I live. Can't wait to get out of Canada so I can walk there to use it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2015, 02:25:25 AM
I live about 5 minutes from a TopGolf and have spent thousands of dollars there.  I also live about 2 minutes from a The Container Store and have spent maybe $25 there.  I live about 15 minutes from an Ikea and have spent $0 there.

You've spent thousands in a week? :kstategrad: <- :-kstategrad:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on June 28, 2015, 09:43:29 AM
they have other things too, but mostly just containers in millions(billions?) of different sizes

It's right down the street. We're thinking about going today to check on some closet systems for when we remodel our master in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2015, 09:52:40 AM
they have other things too, but mostly just containers in millions(billions?) of different sizes

Very KC to get excited about this....Fox 4 had news stories!

never been to one but saw some videos on their business model once, and as a non-KC resident you rough ridin' bet i was excited!

I wasn't meaning your excitement...the overall super excitement of the KC populous.  Ikea I get.  Top Golf I get....Container Store?
I don't get people being excited for Top Golf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2015, 01:04:41 PM
there is nothing like top golf in kc yet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 29, 2015, 01:36:15 PM
there is nothing like top golf in kc yet.

im suprised the neighborhood let them built those 300ft tall nets. it will take about 12 months for top golf to kill every single bird and bat in johnson county
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 01, 2015, 11:09:17 AM
What should we do in KC on Friday before the Royals game?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 01, 2015, 11:10:12 AM
What should we do in KC on Friday before the Royals game?

First Fridays in the Crossroads.. duh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 01, 2015, 11:12:41 AM
What should we do in KC on Friday before the Royals game?

First Fridays in the Crossroads.. duh

Game starts at 7pm, so I was talking more like during the day....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 01, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
What should we do in KC on Friday before the Royals game?

negro leagues baseball museum
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 01, 2015, 11:20:40 AM
container store, obvz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2015, 11:24:51 AM
We have a sweet train restaurant where a train delivers your food in Shawnee. I know how much you guys love kids, so I think you'd enjoy it.  :D

P.S.- Ms. Wacky and I might be going on Friday too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 01, 2015, 11:43:59 AM
What should we do in KC on Friday before the Royals game?

complain about the traffic in "the big city"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 01, 2015, 12:18:29 PM
What should we do in KC on Friday before the Royals game?


negro leagues baseball museum

This or WWI or Nelson if arty.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 01, 2015, 12:35:08 PM
get some LC's on your way out to the stadium
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 01, 2015, 12:36:30 PM
get some LC's on your way out to the stadium
Not hip to this lingo. What is LC's? Will also just be walking across the street from the Sheraton.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 01, 2015, 12:39:27 PM
Sorry Gooches, there is literally nothing to do in kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 01, 2015, 12:43:21 PM
Sorry Gooches, there is literally nothing to do in kc

Well I did Google "Things to do in Kansas City" but ever-y-thing that I read off that list to Gooch was denied.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 01, 2015, 12:46:01 PM
get some LC's on your way out to the stadium
Not hip to this lingo. What is LC's? Will also just be walking across the street from the Sheraton.

LC's is a barbecue joint in between kauffman and the plaza-ish area. it's a perfect pit stop if you're taking the back way (not I-70) to the stadium from the west. but, if you're already at the stadium that's kind of a deal breaker. i just personally have a thing for LC's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2015, 01:17:53 PM
Also, you guys are about a $8 cab ride away from downtown and the quaff. You guys could meet up with Ms. wacky and I after the game and we could shoot some pool, play pop a shot, and karaoke our asses off!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on July 01, 2015, 01:23:24 PM
If you're set on things to do between the Sheraton and the stadium, you're going to have a bad time... Well, maybe some solid Stater tailgates between, but that's it. Or a BP is still open I think.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 01, 2015, 01:47:35 PM
Also, you guys are about a $8 cab ride away from downtown and the quaff. You guys could meet up with Ms. wacky and I after the game and we could shoot some pool, play pop a shot, and karaoke our asses off!

wow! #ThingsYouCantDoInWichita
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 01, 2015, 01:49:23 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2015, 01:50:08 PM
Also, you guys are about a $8 cab ride away from downtown and the quaff. You guys could meet up with Ms. wacky and I after the game and we could shoot some pool, play pop a shot, and karaoke our asses off!

wow! #ThingsYouCantDoInWichita
Everything in downtown KC is things you can't do in Wichita, dweeb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 01, 2015, 03:00:51 PM
Go pester WackyCat08's coworkers and pretend you want a fake degree and then change your mind when it's time to pay money
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 01, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
the last couple of posts omg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 01, 2015, 03:23:05 PM
Leaning heavily on binge drinking in the parking lot with @Winters and hopefully @QueenWinters at this point
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2015, 03:25:25 PM
Gooch is really dodging me. Fine, then!  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 01, 2015, 03:26:08 PM
Leaning heavily on binge drinking in the parking lot with @Winters and hopefully @QueenWinters at this point

If you want the true KC experience, getting drunk in a really hot parking lot miles away from anything is definitely the way to go
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 01, 2015, 03:26:34 PM
Gooch is really dodging me. Fine, then!  :don'tcare:

Suggesting karaoke was not going to win him over.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2015, 03:28:04 PM
Gooch is really dodging me. Fine, then!  :don'tcare:

Suggesting karaoke was not going to win him over.  :lol: :lol:
I was jk. I hate karaoke. Anyways, I'll be there too you guys!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 01, 2015, 05:39:01 PM
Gooch is really dodging me. Fine, then!  :don'tcare:

Suggesting karaoke was not going to win him over.  :lol: :lol:
I was jk. I hate karaoke. Anyways, I'll be there too you guys!

lol, take a hint bro
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 01, 2015, 07:52:33 PM
Which one of the KCFDcat beers will we be most impressed with?

most likely the White IPA or the Rye.

KCFD!!!
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/grab-a-beer-and-take-a-tour-through-kansas-city-area-breweries/Content?oid=5282280
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 01, 2015, 09:55:17 PM
Which one of the KCFDcat beers will we be most impressed with?

most likely the White IPA or the Rye.

KCFD!!!
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/grab-a-beer-and-take-a-tour-through-kansas-city-area-breweries/Content?oid=5282280

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 02, 2015, 10:22:20 AM
Will any of these supposedly "elite" KC BBQ joints be open on the 4th? Or do i need to come up early Friday?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 02, 2015, 10:24:02 AM
Will any of these supposedly "elite" KC BBQ joints be open on the 4th? Or do i need to come up early Friday?

theyll all be open, but dont go. instead come to KC and hit up one of our world famous Winstead's and then stop by PowerPlay in shawnee to play some laser tag after the royals game #WelcomeToKC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 02, 2015, 10:47:47 AM
Will any of these supposedly "elite" KC BBQ joints be open on the 4th? Or do i need to come up early Friday?

Joe's may close... They seem to close a lot. The real ones will be open.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 02, 2015, 11:16:00 AM
This question will generate a debate we have had #OnHere a thousand times already, but where should i go?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2015, 11:17:37 AM
there is no better pre-Royals game meal than Gates on Cleaver & Paseo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 02, 2015, 11:18:32 AM
Need to add a caveat to that tho. I am not waiting in line for rough ridin' BBQ.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2015, 11:21:53 AM
Need to add a caveat to that tho. I am not waiting in line for rough ridin' BBQ.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on July 02, 2015, 11:22:33 AM
there is no better pre-Royals game meal than Gates on Cleaver & Paseo

truth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 02, 2015, 11:25:24 AM
gooch, dont come. we dont need your attitude. stay in wichita and do karaoke at a dive bar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 02, 2015, 11:28:13 AM
Art Bryants on Brooklyn before heading to the K or gtfo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2015, 11:30:12 AM
There use to be a gates close to the stadium over here, but it burnt down.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 02, 2015, 11:32:43 AM
gooch, dont come. we dont need your attitude. stay in wichita and do karaoke at a dive bar.
What? I don't see the need to wait in line for BBQ that is just as good if not better in Wichita with no line.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 02, 2015, 11:33:02 AM
Need to add a caveat to that tho. I am not waiting in line for rough ridin' BBQ.

12th and Brooklyn Gates is less of a line. The cleaver one can get nuts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2015, 11:35:46 AM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2015, 11:37:32 AM
gooch, dont come. we dont need your attitude. stay in wichita and do karaoke at a dive bar.
What? I don't see the need to wait in line for BBQ that is just as good if not better in Wichita with no line.
OMG! He really believes this doesn't he?  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 02, 2015, 11:45:53 AM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

Its awesome. No pop a shot though. They are starting up a skeeball league.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 02, 2015, 11:46:57 AM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

What's Up Down?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 02, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

Retro arcade with booze. Dave and busters with no kids and old school games.

What's Up Down?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

Its awesome. No pop a shot though. They are starting up a skeeball league.
I heard that. I'll be honest, I found myself wanting to sit on the upstairs patio after a few games to drink, but it is a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 02, 2015, 11:55:20 AM
These news stories of storm damage from last night and all they show is a blown over fireworks circus tent.... Very kc things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 02, 2015, 11:56:23 AM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

Its awesome. No pop a shot though. They are starting up a skeeball league.
I heard that. I'll be honest, I found myself wanting to sit on the upstairs patio after a few games to drink, but it is a lot of fun.

Very high dude ratio but it's a blast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2015, 11:59:17 AM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

Its awesome. No pop a shot though. They are starting up a skeeball league.
I heard that. I'll be honest, I found myself wanting to sit on the upstairs patio after a few games to drink, but it is a lot of fun.

Very high dude ratio but it's a blast
When I saw the Ninja Turtles game, I almost cried with joy. That was my crap back in the day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 02, 2015, 12:03:58 PM
gooch, dont come. we dont need your attitude. stay in wichita and do karaoke at a dive bar.
What? I don't see the need to wait in line for BBQ that is just as good if not better in Wichita with no line.

why wait for KC BBQ when you can make it yourself buy it at dillons in wichita?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2015, 12:41:35 PM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

What's Up Down?

not much, what's up with you down?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 02, 2015, 01:03:02 PM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

What's Up Down?

not much, what's up with you down?

 :lol:

omg he fell for it  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 02, 2015, 01:50:06 PM
Has anyone been to "Up Down" yet? It went where Hamburger Mary's was. It's like a vintage arcade, but it's a bar and it's plastered with 90's wallpaper from shows like "family matters", "Full House", etc. It's kinda cool.

Retro arcade with booze. Dave and busters with no kids and old school games.

What's Up Down?

Sounds like what I thought Dave & Buster's was going be like before I ever went to a Dave & Buster's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 02, 2015, 06:08:54 PM
Big fan of Up down. Went once on a Saturday night and once on a sunday afternoon. Had a blast both times.

My favorites are

1. 4 player pac man
2. Skeeball
3. Nfl blitz
4. Outdoor life sized jenga/connect 4
5. TMNT Game

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 02, 2015, 06:27:54 PM
the gooch's are just so spoiled with all the things to do in Wichita, why would they ever leave  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 02, 2015, 07:32:19 PM
I like up down but that huge jenga thing needs to gtfoomff
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 02, 2015, 08:33:25 PM
the gooch's are just so spoiled with all the things to do in Wichita, why would they ever leave  :lol:

There are tons of things to do in Wichita but SOME people don't want to do them. For instance, who wouldn't want to go see Heathers the Musical?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 02, 2015, 08:54:58 PM
the gooch's are just so spoiled with all the things to do in Wichita, why would they ever leave  :lol:

There are tons of things to do in Wichita but SOME people don't want to do them. For instance, who wouldn't want to go see Heathers the Musical?

i can not think of a single thing i would not want to do more than go see a rough ridin' musical
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 02, 2015, 09:16:34 PM
I like up down but that huge jenga thing needs to gtfoomff

LOL, I bet dickstone tried to play it all cool like he knew how to play life sized jenga but on his 3rd turn..... DOWN GOES FRAZIER
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 02, 2015, 09:28:19 PM
the gooch's are just so spoiled with all the things to do in Wichita, why would they ever leave  :lol:

There are tons of things to do in Wichita but SOME people don't want to do them. For instance, who wouldn't want to go see Heathers the Musical?

i can not think of a single thing i would not want to do more than go see a rough ridin' musical

Some culture would really do you wonders, tbh, tbt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 02, 2015, 09:29:47 PM
you know what, you are right spracs. i am going to go online and book one right now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 02, 2015, 09:45:02 PM
aww why did you delete that spracs? that was a touching review
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 02, 2015, 09:49:25 PM
Forgot where I was  :Carl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 02, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
yeah we definetly aren't the Phog
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 03, 2015, 12:12:03 AM
i love heathers, but not sure i'd like a heathers musical
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 03, 2015, 12:48:03 AM
I like up down but that huge jenga thing needs to gtfoomff

LOL, I bet dickstone tried to play it all cool like he knew how to play life sized jenga but on his 3rd turn..... DOWN GOES FRAZIER

I'm sitting in the sun, pulling on my 3rd tank 7 and some dickwad with a handle bar mustache who is dressed like a 1830's blacksmith ruins the mood by dumping 40 pounds of wood blocks all over the place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 03, 2015, 12:50:24 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on July 03, 2015, 02:58:03 AM
i love heathers, but not sure i'd like a heathers musical

whats your damage?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 03, 2015, 03:11:42 PM
get some LC's on your way out to the stadium

Meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 03, 2015, 03:24:00 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 03, 2015, 03:42:55 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 03, 2015, 08:53:23 PM
I mean, it was good, but I've had better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 04, 2015, 09:40:30 AM
You ate at our 10th best bbq place. 'Tater got you so good!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 04, 2015, 02:18:11 PM
Never even bother to go to LCs.   Sounds like it was the right move.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 04, 2015, 04:03:10 PM
I hope all of you son of a bitches are coming to the grandnopening on Saturday.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2015, 02:38:36 AM
I hope all of you son of a bitches are coming to the grandnopening on Saturday.  :gocho:

If I don't have to do a family thing I'm there.  Congrats.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2015, 02:13:07 PM
http://www.movoto.com/blog/top-ten/10-most-redneck-cities/

 :fistpump:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2015, 02:58:02 PM
Guys!!!
http://www.feastmagazine.com/drink/article_22b26e1a-1ab0-11e5-b309-bf36856db4f6.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 05, 2015, 04:49:23 PM
I hope all of you son of a bitches are coming to the grandnopening on Saturday.  :gocho:

What time?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 06, 2015, 06:18:18 AM
get some LC's on your way out to the stadium

Meh

you didn't get the burnt ends, did you? probably should have included that in my recommendo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 06, 2015, 07:52:39 AM
get some LC's on your way out to the stadium

Meh

you didn't get the burnt ends, did you? probably should have included that in my recommendo.

You are the worst at recommending things. Never taking your recommendation again.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 06, 2015, 09:25:35 AM
must be nice having the comforts of Wichita again
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 06, 2015, 12:45:19 PM
get some LC's on your way out to the stadium

Meh

you didn't get the burnt ends, did you? probably should have included that in my recommendo.

You are the worst at recommending things. Never taking your recommendation again.

sounds like maybe you just don't "get" the beauty of LC's. sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 06, 2015, 12:49:09 PM
get some LC's on your way out to the stadium

Meh

you didn't get the burnt ends, did you? probably should have included that in my recommendo.

You are the worst at recommending things. Never taking your recommendation again.

sounds like maybe you just don't "get" the beauty of LC's. sad.

We had turkey, pork, beef, and ribs. They were ok, but none of them were anywhere near great. If the only thing worth eating is the burnt ends then I'd think that would have been important enough to note in the original recommendation.

Apparently someone thinks they are good though because there were signs on the highway directing you there. Probably people who haven't been to Wichita for BBQ.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 06, 2015, 12:52:50 PM
(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/The_Big_Train/zap_zpssf4rdy6d.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 06, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
I mean, it was good, but I've had better.

fwiw, this is a fair assessment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on July 06, 2015, 01:23:14 PM
LCs is fine. Not ABs, Joe's, or Gates, but not terrible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 06, 2015, 01:24:00 PM
Or  even Q 39. LC's doesn't even break the top 5.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 06, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
I hope all of you son of a bitches are coming to the grandnopening on Saturday.  :gocho:

What time?

noon-midnight
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 06, 2015, 03:27:47 PM
I hope all of you son of a bitches are coming to the grandnopening on Saturday.  :gocho:

What time?

noon-midnight

see ya then.

cc: 'meister
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 06, 2015, 06:35:46 PM
Or  even Q 39. LC's doesn't even break the top 5.

Q39 is douchey hipster fake BBQ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 06, 2015, 06:47:06 PM
Or  even Q 39. LC's doesn't even break the top 5.

Q39 is douchey hipster fake BBQ
So you enjoyed it, right? :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 06, 2015, 06:57:09 PM
it was ok
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 06, 2015, 08:18:28 PM
LCs is better than Gates and Bryants. I can't really compare any of those to sit down places like Jack Stacks or Q39. They have different goals and ambitions from each other.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 06, 2015, 09:31:39 PM
LCs is not better than Bryant's, it's better than Gates tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 06, 2015, 09:34:54 PM
You guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 08, 2015, 01:24:46 PM
i love heathers, but not sure i'd like a heathers musical

whats your damage?

For some reason I can't get anyone to go see Heathers the musical with me.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2015, 02:39:52 PM
Barbecue smack!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2015, 02:40:30 PM
I will admit that I think any BBQ not from KC to complete crap now. It's infuriating how bad it tastes everywhere else.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 08, 2015, 02:42:55 PM
i hate KC bbq smack. i get that it's a fun thing to talk about with people you have nothing to talk about with, but they're all good and i don't care how you would rank them. i try to go to all of them that i can, periodically.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
there are some that are bad but like with gates/AB/LC's/JS/etc it's just personal preference. The arguments over them are hilarious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on July 08, 2015, 02:49:58 PM
I need a new go to bbq place.  I'm absolutely sick of Joe's.  I've eaten dinner there on average 40-45 Fridays a year for the past 9 years. 

Suggestions?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 08, 2015, 02:51:54 PM
I need a new go to bbq place.  I'm absolutely sick of Joe's.  I've eaten dinner there on average 40-45 Fridays a year for the past 9 years. 

Suggestions?

LC's

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: lopakman on July 08, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
too far   :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2015, 02:56:29 PM
I will admit that I think any BBQ not from KC to complete crap now. It's infuriating how bad it tastes everywhere else.

Open a KC style joint in SF.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on July 08, 2015, 02:59:14 PM
I happen to enjoy the hell out of LC's.  It's everything you want in a BBQ place:  Sketchy area of town, filthy interior, rude inattentive staff, and delicious burnt ends.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 08, 2015, 03:00:48 PM
Jon Russel's
I haven't tried Slaps yet but I heard it's really good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on July 08, 2015, 03:03:47 PM
I happen to enjoy the hell out of LC's.  It's everything you want in a BBQ place:  Sketchy area of town, filthy interior, rude inattentive staff, and delicious burnt ends.
Watching lc count his cash in the dining area, slipping on the greasy floor and being barked at by the junkyard dog next to lc's smoker is the icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
I will admit that I think any BBQ not from KC to complete crap now. It's infuriating how bad it tastes everywhere else.

Open a KC style joint in SF.
Somebody actually kind of did and it is overpriced crap. http://4505meats.com/4505-burgers-bbq/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on July 08, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
I happen to enjoy the hell out of LC's.  It's everything you want in a BBQ place:  Sketchy area of town, filthy interior, rude inattentive staff, and delicious burnt ends.
Watching lc count his cash in the dining area, slipping on the greasy floor and being barked at by the junkyard dog next to lc's smoker is the icing on the cake.

The first time I went to LC's my jerkstore friends purposely neglected to warn me about the grease or BBQ smoke or whaetver it is that coats the floor in a fine sheen and they laughed when I nearly wiped out.    :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 08, 2015, 03:23:13 PM
planning on going to Top Golf Friday, should I bring my clubs or will I look like an idiot doing that?  And do I need a reservation if I want 2 or 3 bays next to one another?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 08, 2015, 03:24:41 PM
You sure do worry about looking like a idiot a lot. You asked the same thing about FF.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 08, 2015, 03:35:09 PM
planning on going to Top Golf Friday, should I bring my clubs or will I look like an idiot doing that?  And do I need a reservation if I want 2 or 3 bays next to one another?

yes, you will look like an idiot.  no, bringing your own clubs won't make you look like an idiot. Getting multiple adjacent bays will be tough.  It is essentially first come first serve, unless you buy a VIP pass for $50.  They do however promote the fact that they accommodate corporate outings and special events.  I don't know if your group is large enough/special enough to qualify, but it would be a worth a phone call to find out.  Otherwise, getting 3 bays next to each other would be practically impossible.  Even getting 2 next to each other could be a very long wait.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 08, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
3 together would have been easily possible sunday afternoon, friday i'm betting not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 08, 2015, 03:45:58 PM
I'd venture to guess that in a blind taste test, 99.9% off humans couldn't differentiate between the top 10 KC BBQ joints (sauce notwithstanding).  Kansas citians feel like they're supposed to have a strong opinion on this subject, but let's get real here...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 08, 2015, 05:00:47 PM
You sure do worry about looking like a idiot a lot. You asked the same thing about FF.

quit obsessing with me so much, it's weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 08, 2015, 05:01:24 PM
planning on going to Top Golf Friday, should I bring my clubs or will I look like an idiot doing that?  And do I need a reservation if I want 2 or 3 bays next to one another?

yes, you will look like an idiot.  no, bringing your own clubs won't make you look like an idiot. Getting multiple adjacent bays will be tough.  It is essentially first come first serve, unless you buy a VIP pass for $50.  They do however promote the fact that they accommodate corporate outings and special events.  I don't know if your group is large enough/special enough to qualify, but it would be a worth a phone call to find out.  Otherwise, getting 3 bays next to each other would be practically impossible.  Even getting 2 next to each other could be a very long wait.

even if during the day and not at night?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 08, 2015, 05:06:09 PM
planning on going to Top Golf Friday, should I bring my clubs or will I look like an idiot doing that?

yes, you will look like an idiot.  no, bringing your own clubs won't make you look like an idiot.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 08, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
KC liquor control really mumped me today, guys. they mumped me real good.  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 08, 2015, 06:47:40 PM
Wait what?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 08, 2015, 06:50:40 PM
Wait what?

long story, but they filed my paperwork wrong with the state, so we most likely can't open Saturday. still waiting on a temporary waiver from MO, but that's a stretch with this short of notice. (especially because it seems like very state worker is on vacation this week)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 08, 2015, 06:51:19 PM
Raided? Smashed your firkins with hatchets?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 08, 2015, 06:51:45 PM
Raided? Smashed your firkins with hatchets?

lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 08, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
I couldn't make the grand opening so I called in a favor.

That sucks... Hopefully they get you a temp license.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2015, 08:05:04 PM
they obvsly want a bribe.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 08, 2015, 10:01:13 PM
planning on going to Top Golf Friday, should I bring my clubs or will I look like an idiot doing that?  And do I need a reservation if I want 2 or 3 bays next to one another?

yes, you will look like an idiot.  no, bringing your own clubs won't make you look like an idiot. Getting multiple adjacent bays will be tough.  It is essentially first come first serve, unless you buy a VIP pass for $50.  They do however promote the fact that they accommodate corporate outings and special events.  I don't know if your group is large enough/special enough to qualify, but it would be a worth a phone call to find out.  Otherwise, getting 3 bays next to each other would be practically impossible.  Even getting 2 next to each other could be a very long wait.

even if during the day and not at night?

Friday day shouldn't be too bad.  I assumed you meant Friday night. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 08, 2015, 10:30:42 PM
Wait what?

long story, but they filed my paperwork wrong with the state, so we most likely can't open Saturday. still waiting on a temporary waiver from MO, but that's a stretch with this short of notice. (especially because it seems like very state worker is on vacation this week)

Get em KCFD. rough ridin' dorkstores
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 08, 2015, 10:32:48 PM
What if you just... opened anyway?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: jmlynch1 on July 08, 2015, 10:34:40 PM
I will admit that I think any BBQ not from KC to complete crap now. It's infuriating how bad it tastes everywhere else.
i don't really even like bbq that much but I am super smug when people start talking about bbq places around here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: jmlynch1 on July 08, 2015, 10:38:53 PM
I will admit that I think any BBQ not from KC to complete crap now. It's infuriating how bad it tastes everywhere else.
i don't really even like bbq that much but I am super smug when people start talking about bbq places around here.
i should also add that I love my role here as bbq expert and since kc is basically a vacation destination I get to live the following convo often:
Nebraskan: omg jack stack was soo good, thanks for recommending it... I've never eaten so much meat in my life
Me: yeah, it's not bad  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 09, 2015, 08:09:42 AM
planning on going to Top Golf Friday, should I bring my clubs or will I look like an idiot doing that?  And do I need a reservation if I want 2 or 3 bays next to one another?

yes, you will look like an idiot.  no, bringing your own clubs won't make you look like an idiot. Getting multiple adjacent bays will be tough.  It is essentially first come first serve, unless you buy a VIP pass for $50.  They do however promote the fact that they accommodate corporate outings and special events.  I don't know if your group is large enough/special enough to qualify, but it would be a worth a phone call to find out.  Otherwise, getting 3 bays next to each other would be practically impossible.  Even getting 2 next to each other could be a very long wait.

even if during the day and not at night?

Friday day shouldn't be too bad.  I assumed you meant Friday night.

We had a company outing yesterday at TG 2:30 to 4:30, the parking lot was 95% full and the inside of the place was packed as well. FWIW everyone walking in with their backpack-mount bags and head covers and golf clothes looked like they were trying way too hard. I don't think bringing your clubs is necessary, but then again the provided clubs are worth way more than the crap I play with.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 09, 2015, 08:31:16 AM
Top Golf sounds like the worst place on earth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 09, 2015, 08:33:01 AM
Would go


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 09, 2015, 09:04:51 AM
Top Golf sounds like the worst place on earth

its like a 150,000 sq ft houlihans where you can hit golf balls off your table. now does it sound like the worst place on earth?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 10, 2015, 10:35:06 PM
Top Golf sounds like the worst place on earth

im not a big fan of golf because i suck ass at it, but even i dont feel like this  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 11, 2015, 01:23:56 AM
Top Golf sounds like the worst place on earth

Bingo!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on July 14, 2015, 11:55:41 AM
I keep hearing good things about Char Bar. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2015, 11:56:42 AM
I keep hearing good things about Char Bar. Can anyone confirm?

had once, it was good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on July 14, 2015, 12:19:32 PM
I went to Top Golf on Saturday and it was great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 14, 2015, 12:23:16 PM
I keep hearing good things about Char Bar. Can anyone confirm?
Mediocre food and service, but the best patio in town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 14, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
I keep hearing good things about Char Bar. Can anyone confirm?
Mediocre food and service, but the best patio in town.

I had the CBGB - basically brisket burger.  Tasted very good to me.  Everybody I've talked to also thought it was really good bbq.  and yes, patio is sweet. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 14, 2015, 12:47:38 PM
I just think their service pisses me off. We've had 3 different types of experiences where they were kinda crap heads, but other than that, it is a fun place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on July 14, 2015, 01:00:22 PM
I just think their service pisses me off. We've had 3 different types of experiences where they were kinda crap heads, but other than that, it is a fun place.

So their service reflects their caliber of food, now?

Char Bar is great. Great food, great patio, great time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 14, 2015, 01:01:06 PM
I just think their service pisses me off. We've had 3 different types of experiences where they were kinda crap heads, but other than that, it is a fun place.

So their service reflects their caliber of food, now?

Char Bar is great. Great food, great patio, great time.
There's much better bbq around the area. I test it up to the competition.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 14, 2015, 01:02:07 PM
char bar is excellent bbq, can't believe you haven't tried yet AJ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 14, 2015, 01:04:55 PM

There's much better bbq around the area. I test it up to the competition.


just out of curiosity, what specifically makes other bbq 'much better?'  serious question.  I mean, I'm admittedly a food novice and don't have a super sophisticated palate, but really good bbq is really good bbq and it sure tasted like really good bbq to me.     
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 14, 2015, 01:06:52 PM
If I'm in that area, I'm going to eat at Q39 and go crush some suds on char bars patio. It's ok guys, I've had different experiences there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 14, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
how jealous of top golf are all the townies? im sensing like 6/7 on the jelly scale.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on July 14, 2015, 01:16:20 PM
char bar is excellent bbq, can't believe you haven't tried yet AJ

ya, it's been too long since I've been to Westport. Gonna try and jam it up this weekend. prolly make out with tons of chicks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 14, 2015, 01:19:00 PM
Char bar is next on my list. I heard incredible things.

I've already eaten there three times :sdeek:

it's like 7 times now  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2015, 01:45:45 PM
how jealous of top golf are all the townies? im sensing like 6/7 on the jelly scale.

Jelly sandal wearing stage
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 14, 2015, 05:14:55 PM
how jealous of top golf are all the townies? im sensing like 6/7 on the jelly scale.

0
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on July 15, 2015, 09:03:35 AM
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/621304052673028096
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 15, 2015, 09:24:41 AM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 15, 2015, 09:33:55 AM
Why did they call the cops? Is it illegal for a fish to be in a ditch?  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 17, 2015, 08:21:57 AM
:horrorsurprise:

http://www.kctv5.com/clip/11686460/raw-motorist-captures-fatal-shooting-on-highway
 (http://www.kctv5.com/clip/11686460/raw-motorist-captures-fatal-shooting-on-highway)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 17, 2015, 08:44:34 AM
:horrorsurprise:

http://www.kctv5.com/clip/11686460/raw-motorist-captures-fatal-shooting-on-highway
 (http://www.kctv5.com/clip/11686460/raw-motorist-captures-fatal-shooting-on-highway)

Do you guys ever look suspects like this up on facebook?  I do sometimes and what I find can be surprising or not surprising at all. 

Also outside of the GTA games, do police chases ever end different than the person being chased getting caught? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 17, 2015, 08:45:20 AM
Dude was chasing him in a Dodge minivan. That's crazy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 17, 2015, 09:12:52 AM
:horrorsurprise:

http://www.kctv5.com/clip/11686460/raw-motorist-captures-fatal-shooting-on-highway
 (http://www.kctv5.com/clip/11686460/raw-motorist-captures-fatal-shooting-on-highway)

Do you guys ever look suspects like this up on facebook?  I do sometimes and what I find can be surprising or not surprising at all. 

Also outside of the GTA games, do police chases ever end different than the person being chased getting caught?

Sometimes they end with innocent bystanders being killed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 17, 2015, 10:36:35 AM
:horrorsurprise:

http://www.kctv5.com/clip/11686460/raw-motorist-captures-fatal-shooting-on-highway
 (http://www.kctv5.com/clip/11686460/raw-motorist-captures-fatal-shooting-on-highway)

is the dude just singing along with the radio while a guy gets killed in front of him?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 17, 2015, 10:42:24 AM
What do you think that guy was into? I always wonder, because if you're running like that, it's gotta be deep!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 17, 2015, 12:09:44 PM
What do you think that guy was into? I always wonder, because if you're running like that, it's gotta be deep!

if i had to guess id say armed robbery
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 17, 2015, 12:10:55 PM
What do you think that guy was into? I always wonder, because if you're running like that, it's gotta be deep!

if i had to guess id say armed robbery
Oh yeah. I guess I really didn't follow the story. I did hear that. Thanks, smart ass.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 17, 2015, 12:13:26 PM
What do you think that guy was into? I always wonder, because if you're running like that, it's gotta be deep!

if i had to guess id say armed robbery
Oh yeah. I guess I really didn't follow the story. I did hear that. Thanks, smart ass.  :thumbs:

welcome, dumb ass :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on July 17, 2015, 12:40:10 PM

Wait what?

long story, but they filed my paperwork wrong with the state, so we most likely can't open Saturday. still waiting on a temporary waiver from MO, but that's a stretch with this short of notice. (especially because it seems like very state worker is on vacation this week)
You open today?!?  Just paying at the brick and was hoping to come snag a beer!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on July 17, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/d21b5e231473b98a787b2bd7fe100108.jpg) :sad:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 17, 2015, 12:57:26 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/d21b5e231473b98a787b2bd7fe100108.jpg) :sad:

Is this place licensed yet or what?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 17, 2015, 01:12:14 PM
 :impatient:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 17, 2015, 01:13:48 PM
 :impatient: :impatient:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 17, 2015, 01:51:06 PM
Well, go knock on the door
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 18, 2015, 06:17:55 AM
Next weekend guys! Got our licenses late on Friday!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 19, 2015, 12:23:37 AM
how jealous of top golf are all the townies? im sensing like 6/7 on the jelly scale.

you can get better top golf in Wichita without waiting in a line
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 19, 2015, 12:31:56 AM
You can get better top golf at top golf without waiting in a line. :vip:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 21, 2015, 12:33:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Dblshiftbrewing/status/623172592942256128
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 21, 2015, 01:18:00 PM
:thumbsup:
https://twitter.com/Dblshiftbrewing/status/623172592942256128
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 21, 2015, 01:20:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Dblshiftbrewing/status/623172592942256128
:thumbsup:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35478.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35478.0)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 21, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Dblshiftbrewing/status/623172592942256128
:thumbsup:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35478.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35478.0)
FIFY
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 21, 2015, 01:41:34 PM
Drinking at Doubleshift will be great. The "goEMAW encounters" "post here when at a bar alone" and "binge drinking" threads are about to explode. Buy stock in those now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 21, 2015, 02:03:28 PM
Kc'rs pakking, lol yeah right  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 21, 2015, 02:29:09 PM
I'm very happy and excited for KCFDcat!  Congrats!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 21, 2015, 02:30:00 PM
Should KCFDcat change his name to DSBrewcat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 21, 2015, 04:07:25 PM
@KCFDcat, how did you get financing? I'd love to learn about your basic business model. Did you devour the credit card thread and then max out 20 different cards? Have you saved up for 15 years and bought a shithole and then invested a bunch of sweat equity? I always love hearing how people get started in their own business ventures. Post any details here if you want!

Good luck!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2015, 04:11:07 PM
@KCFDcat, how did you get financing? I'd love to learn about your basic business model. Did you devour the credit card thread and then max out 20 different cards? Have you saved up for 15 years and bought a shithole and then invested a bunch of sweat equity? I always love hearing how people get started in their own business ventures. Post any details here if you want!

Good luck!
We have an ownership group that invested 100% of the capital needed. We have $0 in debt financing. Total capital needed was just over $400,000. We did lease a super crappy building and put a lot of work into it.  Most of it was infrastructure (plumbing and electrical)  but we did some ourselves, like build a bar etc...

If you want to know more let me know, there's not a whole lot I'm not willing to share.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2015, 04:12:22 PM
Should KCFDcat change his name to DSBrewcat?
I tried to change it, couldn't figure it out in less than 5 minutes so I gave up

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 21, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
So, can I just walk in on Saturday with a fistfull of cash and binge for several hours or will there be some awkward tasting going on or some crap?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2015, 04:14:38 PM
So, can I just walk in on Saturday with a fistfull of cash and binge for several hours or will there be some awkward tasting going on or some crap?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2015, 04:20:34 PM
So, can I just walk in on Saturday with a fistfull of cash and binge for several hours or will there be some awkward tasting going on or some crap?

walk in. binge. watch the Roys. eat food from the food truck out front.

nothing weird. just people enjoying the crap out of beer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 21, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
make sure to install the secret trap door bar stool manhole with camouflage flooring to give Dugout an easy way to give you cash early and often

(maybe an engraved nametag on stool?)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 21, 2015, 04:33:18 PM
I am going to do this then.  Maybe bring the Mrs. out of the cave and make an afternoon of it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 21, 2015, 04:43:44 PM
what time do you close?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2015, 04:46:50 PM
what time do you close?

midnight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 21, 2015, 04:58:27 PM
KCFDcat i think i'm going to come pound a brew or two before i head out to buzz beach ball.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2015, 05:31:04 PM
(http://media2.kshb.com/photo/2014/12/31/RV-Letter_1420081625576_12087020_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kansas/prairie-village-neighbor-suggests-rv-better-fit-for-lesser-neighborhood

do we have a Prairie Village things thread?

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/y6qwd1/picture28042837/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/car%20in%20building)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 21, 2015, 06:46:12 PM
Thought about tailgating this Saturday but may have to hit Doubleshift instead.  Congrat KCFD
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2015, 08:28:03 PM
Thought about tailgating this Saturday but may have to hit Doubleshift instead.  Congrat KCFD
Thanks dude.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 21, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
So, can I just walk in on Saturday with a fistfull of cash and binge for several hours or will there be some awkward tasting going on or some crap?

walk in. binge. watch the Roys. eat food from the food truck out front.

nothing weird. just people enjoying the crap out of beer.

Which food truck? (I'll be going regardless of food truck option)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2015, 09:11:39 PM
So, can I just walk in on Saturday with a fistfull of cash and binge for several hours or will there be some awkward tasting going on or some crap?

walk in. binge. watch the Roys. eat food from the food truck out front.

nothing weird. just people enjoying the crap out of beer.

Which food truck? (I'll be going regardless of food truck option)
Pie Hole this weekend

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 21, 2015, 11:44:24 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/21/242daf77eae1a014f5898386b5dd2a7a.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 22, 2015, 07:40:35 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 22, 2015, 04:11:26 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/performing-arts/article21735252.html


(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/emoticon-geek-nerd-22756602.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 22, 2015, 08:50:35 PM
(http://media2.kshb.com/photo/2014/12/31/RV-Letter_1420081625576_12087020_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kansas/prairie-village-neighbor-suggests-rv-better-fit-for-lesser-neighborhood

do we have a Prairie Village things thread?

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/y6qwd1/picture28042837/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/car%20in%20building)

that crappy car is obviously from the dotte
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 22, 2015, 10:31:38 PM
Obviously the driver is that super old white haired lady dressed in all white. Not profiling tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 22, 2015, 11:13:15 PM
Recent KC observation:  Royals need to step it up in the gear department.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 23, 2015, 08:44:27 AM
Recent KC observation:  Royals need to step it up in the gear department.

Yes, almost as bad as the crap ksu makes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on July 23, 2015, 09:28:25 AM
Recent KC observation:  Royals need to step it up in the gear department.

Yes, almost as bad as the crap ksu makes

I hate KSU gear. Given, purple is hard to work with, but others like LSU pull it off.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 23, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
Lots of people buying really bad stuff around here. I've only found one shirt I really can tolerate. The track jacket zip ups are pretty solid but not useful until playoff time.

I revert to just wearing one of those hipster heart KC shirts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on July 23, 2015, 09:34:51 AM
KCFDCat on 610 right now talking DoubleShift things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 23, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
lol at royals gear being anywhere close to ksu bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 23, 2015, 09:39:05 AM
KCFDCat on 610 right now talking DoubleShift things.

i am listening
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 23, 2015, 10:29:43 AM
The Nike KSU gear is good, you guys are crazy.

The Kroger/Best Value off brand KSU gear is worst of the worst tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 23, 2015, 10:46:22 AM
Went to rally house a few weeks ago and I have to admit I was pretty jealous of the squawk selection. They have a lot of good retro stuff right now. (and also tons of kue0 stuff)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 23, 2015, 10:48:56 AM
Given, purple is hard to work with, but others like LSU pull it off.

(http://dab1nmslvvntp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/complimentary2.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 23, 2015, 06:55:38 PM
Recent KC observation:  Royals need to step it up in the gear department.

Yes, almost as bad as the crap ksu makes
Bad, but let's be real.....not even close.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 25, 2015, 11:01:36 AM
https://twitter.com/Dblshiftbrewing/status/623172592942256128

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on July 25, 2015, 11:57:52 AM
Excited to visit. Congrats.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 25, 2015, 01:31:52 PM
Looks great bud.(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/ce3de1864bfd7d24a46b5bd079a7f51b.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/974635f2c1f4975e516dc0d681906b86.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 25, 2015, 01:40:15 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/76c87bfb8b53e8caed7c503e76e5f1c9.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 25, 2015, 01:48:23 PM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 25, 2015, 01:58:02 PM
It was good. I met KCFDcat too. We would have stayed longer, but we haven't ate all day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 25, 2015, 02:34:07 PM
Got stuck at the cave, will go this week
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 25, 2015, 02:57:02 PM
I wasn't sure who KCFDcat was, so I Asked one of the employees which one he was and told her to go tell him Wackycat said hi. :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 25, 2015, 03:19:51 PM
If I wanted to get plowed over lunch during the week, would this joint be open?  Also, what's the food sitch?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 25, 2015, 04:18:21 PM
White ipa is good. Place needs music tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 25, 2015, 05:09:37 PM
I like the idea of the Rye.  Is the comparo to bread accurate as far as flavor goes?  If so, I want to try it warm.  Warming rye bread changes everything, vs room temp or cold rye.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 25, 2015, 08:30:57 PM
I enjoyed DS. Pics and review pending.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 25, 2015, 08:35:23 PM
"hey, which guy back there posts on an internet under the handle... um, is there a firefighter that runs this place?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 25, 2015, 08:53:03 PM
" this guy that posts on the kstate message board I own....."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2015, 08:59:51 PM
"hey, which guy back there posts on an internet under the handle... um, is there a firefighter that runs this place?"

Pretty similar conversation to the one I had with the door guy the first time I went to station (back when it was good)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 25, 2015, 09:00:55 PM
irl meeting internet bros is just amazingly fun, imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 25, 2015, 09:43:10 PM
yes, it is very fun
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 26, 2015, 01:19:38 AM
yes, it is very fun

Fun but still "Hey human, are you KCFDCat?" is still a weird question...after that it's all good times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 26, 2015, 01:22:06 AM
just say "Hey anyone on gE here?"

Short, sweet, gains attention, and only wanted attention
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 26, 2015, 01:26:18 AM
White ipa is good. Place needs music tho.
I know speaker doodz didn't order the right parts or something. Next weekend!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 26, 2015, 01:33:10 AM
Here we go, walking into the house that KCFDCat built.  Fun to see how great the neighborhood has built up and DoubleShift is now another establishment in the east X-Roads.  Props to Stretch for getting this area going.
(http://i.imgur.com/IENGDAp.jpg)

The beers were pretty great.  Took a minute to warm up to the flavor profiles but once I got into them, good times.  White IPA was the fave (in the big glass)...next was probably the Rye, then Saison, then pale.  The flights are a super good deal, could definitely bump up that price.

(http://i.imgur.com/9fbSHBn.jpg)

OMG the man of the hour.  Next time when not so hectic we can  :cheers:

(http://i.imgur.com/bMgYLpv.jpg)

Ended up sending a small bachelor party there later that night...they came back with rave reviews as well.

So great to have a bunch of small breweries so close to each other...really helps feed off of each other.  Stopped at Border after DS and saw a lot of the same people hopping around.  Good times.  Best of luck KCFDcat...cat wait for a Cats watchparty.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 26, 2015, 09:02:34 AM
Can't wait for the results of FF'16. Highest bidder gets a beer named after their gE handle. This will be so great. Probable winning bid of $1,000.
RowdyboyRickDaris's Raging Rye.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 26, 2015, 09:03:15 AM
Steve Dave's Summer Saison


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 26, 2015, 09:03:48 AM
Heath's Honey Brown Ale


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 26, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 26, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
Heath's Honey Brown Ale


Gonna win 'em all!
We have a poster named Heath?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 26, 2015, 10:05:40 AM
If I had by dollars, I'd lobby for SdK stout.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 26, 2015, 10:08:38 AM
Here we go, walking into the house that KCFDCat built.  Fun to see how great the neighborhood has built up and DoubleShift is now another establishment in the east X-Roads.  Props to Stretch for getting this area going.
(http://i.imgur.com/IENGDAp.jpg)

The beers were pretty great.  Took a minute to warm up to the flavor profiles but once I got into them, good times.  White IPA was the fave (in the big glass)...next was probably the Rye, then Saison, then pale.  The flights are a super good deal, could definitely bump up that price.

(http://i.imgur.com/9fbSHBn.jpg)

OMG the man of the hour.  Next time when not so hectic we can  :cheers:

(http://i.imgur.com/bMgYLpv.jpg)

Ended up sending a small bachelor party there later that night...they came back with rave reviews as well.

So great to have a bunch of small breweries so close to each other...really helps feed off of each other.  Stopped at Border after DS and saw a lot of the same people hopping around.  Good times.  Best of luck KCFDcat...cat wait for a Cats watchparty.
Thanks Phil!  Glad you were able to drop by, you should have said hey! 

As with most new breweries we're still working out some kinks in our brewhouse, and the quality of beer will only go up from here. I think *most* people understand that.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 26, 2015, 06:27:36 PM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 26, 2015, 06:53:22 PM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho

whoa...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 26, 2015, 10:06:31 PM

Heath's Honey Brown Ale


Gonna win 'em all!
We have a poster named Heath?
oops


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 26, 2015, 10:07:31 PM
Fake Sugar Dick Non-Alcoholic Lager

(Because it's not the real sugar dick!)


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 26, 2015, 10:57:09 PM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho
Lol we have a/c but when it's 100 degrees outside, people are constantly opening the door,  and there's 65+ people inside it's hard to keep the temp down, plus the building is 100 years old and has zero energy efficiency.

Thanks for coming by man. Hope you'll come back.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on July 27, 2015, 08:03:41 AM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho
Lol we have a/c but when it's 100 degrees outside, people are constantly opening the door,  and there's 65+ people inside it's hard to keep the temp down, plus the building is 100 years old and has zero energy efficiency.

Thanks for coming by man. Hope you'll come back.

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 :surprised:

my bad, I guess I was just hot and then saw all the portable fans and assumed it was broke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 27, 2015, 08:18:51 AM
Abe Froman's Angry Ale
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2015, 08:57:58 AM
Double Shift Double Meow IPA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 27, 2015, 09:07:18 AM
Slobbers Sons Soccer Saison
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 27, 2015, 09:12:42 AM

Slobbers Sons Soccer Saison
offered exclusively at SKC Park


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 27, 2015, 09:54:13 AM
i stopped by Double Shift on Saturday afternoon for a couple brews before heading out to buzz beach ball. KCFDcat, sorry for not saying hi but i wasn't sure which person you were. i'll be back though.

had a flight, all of them were good! (double ipa, white ipa, saison, pale ale) i also had a few sips of the rye and before i had even seen the paper that compares it to bread, i said "man this really tastes like bread in a glass." good stuff. my second round was a double ipa which packs a punch, as advertised. i'm all about the hops so it was very enjoyable for me. served in a cool glass, too.

as for the temperature i thought it felt fine. i noticed the ac said 82 degrees when i went to the bathroom which seems appropriate for a warehouse type building with tons of people on a near 100 degrees day. an unrelated bit of small advice though: the big list above the bar of beers available lists "IPA" and i believe was referring to the double ipa. it led to some confusion because when i ordered the "IPA" the guy wasn't sure if i meant the white or double. not a big deal at all but just thought i'd mention it.

like i said, i'll certainly be back. good beer, sweet location and set up. keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 27, 2015, 10:03:39 AM
next time i am in KC i'm definitely going to stop by.  congrats man!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 27, 2015, 02:17:05 PM
i stopped by Double Shift on Saturday afternoon for a couple brews before heading out to buzz beach ball. KCFDcat, sorry for not saying hi but i wasn't sure which person you were. i'll be back though.

had a flight, all of them were good! (double ipa, white ipa, saison, pale ale) i also had a few sips of the rye and before i had even seen the paper that compares it to bread, i said "man this really tastes like bread in a glass." good stuff. my second round was a double ipa which packs a punch, as advertised. i'm all about the hops so it was very enjoyable for me. served in a cool glass, too.

as for the temperature i thought it felt fine. i noticed the ac said 82 degrees when i went to the bathroom which seems appropriate for a warehouse type building with tons of people on a near 100 degrees day. an unrelated bit of small advice though: the big list above the bar of beers available lists "IPA" and i believe was referring to the double ipa. it led to some confusion because when i ordered the "IPA" the guy wasn't sure if i meant the white or double. not a big deal at all but just thought i'd mention it.

like i said, i'll certainly be back. good beer, sweet location and set up. keep up the good work!
Thanks for coming, and thanks for the feedback. We've already changed the menu board, that's my bad.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 27, 2015, 02:22:22 PM
Man, now I really want to try the rye. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 28, 2015, 09:53:16 AM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho
Lol we have a/c but when it's 100 degrees outside, people are constantly opening the door,  and there's 65+ people inside it's hard to keep the temp down, plus the building is 100 years old and has zero energy efficiency.

Thanks for coming by man. Hope you'll come back.

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you need a vestibule
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho
Lol we have a/c but when it's 100 degrees outside, people are constantly opening the door,  and there's 65+ people inside it's hard to keep the temp down, plus the building is 100 years old and has zero energy efficiency.

Thanks for coming by man. Hope you'll come back.

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you need a vestibule
Lol. Ok dude.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on July 28, 2015, 10:28:45 AM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho
Lol we have a/c but when it's 100 degrees outside, people are constantly opening the door,  and there's 65+ people inside it's hard to keep the temp down, plus the building is 100 years old and has zero energy efficiency.

Thanks for coming by man. Hope you'll come back.

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you need a vestibule
Lol. Ok dude.

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To be fair, he's right. That would fix your problem. Or less customers... your call.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 10:32:11 AM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho
Lol we have a/c but when it's 100 degrees outside, people are constantly opening the door,  and there's 65+ people inside it's hard to keep the temp down, plus the building is 100 years old and has zero energy efficiency.

Thanks for coming by man. Hope you'll come back.

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you need a vestibule
Lol. Ok dude.

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To be fair, he's right. That would fix your problem. Or less customers... your call.
Or just you know,  not spend $10-15k on something that would help us out 10 days a year. Not to mention it would take away at least one table (seating for 6-8 people) 

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 28, 2015, 10:46:22 AM
Not sure if it is doable where you are but the semi-temporary outdoor vestibules are pretty much ubiquitous in Chicago during the harsh seasons. I would think they are fairly reasonable, and will save significantly in energy bills.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on July 28, 2015, 11:24:05 AM

Not sure if it is doable where you are but the semi-temporary outdoor vestibules are pretty much ubiquitous in Chicago during the harsh seasons. I would think they are fairly reasonable, and will save significantly in energy bills.

Like the one Houstons has
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 28, 2015, 11:40:42 AM
another idea is to have people drink so many delicious beers they cant feel their face and know they are cold*

*technique adopted from ksu football tailgates

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 28, 2015, 12:00:53 PM
The philly I was with isn't a beer drinker but really liked the saison. I enjoy all of them. Needs AC inside tho
Lol we have a/c but when it's 100 degrees outside, people are constantly opening the door,  and there's 65+ people inside it's hard to keep the temp down, plus the building is 100 years old and has zero energy efficiency.

Thanks for coming by man. Hope you'll come back.

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you need a vestibule
Lol. Ok dude.

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To be fair, he's right. That would fix your problem. Or less customers... your call.
Or just you know,  not spend $10-15k on something that would help us out 10 days a year. Not to mention it would take away at least one table (seating for 6-8 people) 

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the issue of heating and cooling recovery will be a problem in the summer and winter.   It also is murder on your utility costs.  another option, though less successful is an air curtain.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 28, 2015, 12:19:47 PM
Take it to the HVAC thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 12:45:11 PM
JFC guys, didn't realize you were all so passionate about vestibules and heating/cooling loss.

Yes, I know the setup we have isn't the most efficient, but we spent a crap ton of money installing a brand new extremely efficient HVAC system. In a perfect world we would have a nice vestibule to allow people to enter through. But with cost over runs in other parts of the build out, we didn't have the capital to add something like that, and we don't have the room to add an exterior one.

However; our biggest issue with heat/cooling loss is our huge roll up doors that get direct afternooon sun, and have huge gaps where they meet the building. We are having them replaced when capital becomes available. Until then, things will just have to stay the way they are.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 28, 2015, 12:48:36 PM
They are just offering suggestions
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 28, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
To be fair, for RS2k, Mikey and myself, it's closely related to what we do for a living.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 28, 2015, 12:54:42 PM
To be fair, for RS2k, Mikey and myself, it's closely related to what we do for a living.

smells like a gE discount to me!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 28, 2015, 12:56:54 PM
Might as well get ipa4me in here so he can try to sell you some honeywell crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 28, 2015, 01:12:04 PM
The Dugout Dunkel
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 28, 2015, 01:44:14 PM
dont scare away our only combo brewery owner firefighter, hvac nerds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 28, 2015, 01:47:42 PM
guys, the temperature was fine.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 28, 2015, 02:09:15 PM
To be fair, for RS2k, Mikey and myself, it's closely related to what we do for a living.

you work for Big Vestibule too?

:)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on July 28, 2015, 03:20:38 PM
Mitsubishi Split Systems... They keep BITB cool all summer. We'll get a wall of them in there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2015, 03:30:00 PM
kcfdcat takes constructive criticism about as well as DJamer Wally
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 28, 2015, 03:30:54 PM
kcfdcat takes constructive criticism about as well as DJamer Wally

I'm cutting him slack as I'm sure he's been putting in about 90hrs/week getting this thing going.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 03:33:47 PM
kcfdcat takes constructive criticism about as well as DJamer Wally
Damn dude. Damn.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 03:34:20 PM
kcfdcat takes constructive criticism about as well as DJamer Wally

I'm cutting him slack as I'm sure he's been putting in about 90hrs/week getting this thing going.
100+ a week for about 4 months now.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2015, 03:38:10 PM
everyone has been complimentary about the beer, or saying they will come back, or plan on going.  kcfd, just go check out what puni had for lunch and have a good laugh.  also remember once you get it rolling you'll be the envy of everyone on this board.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 28, 2015, 03:39:17 PM
slow your roll MM
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on July 28, 2015, 03:42:37 PM
KCFDcat - if you can match my salary I will come hang out and pour beers for your peeps. Won't work Saturdays tho. Or Sundays.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 28, 2015, 03:43:49 PM
check out this mikey post from the near-distant future:

Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats
Technically, that is not a vestibule.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 03:50:36 PM
everyone has been complimentary about the beer, or saying they will come back, or plan on going.  kcfd, just go check out what puni had for lunch and have a good laugh.  also remember once you get it rolling you'll be the envy of everyone on this board.

Thanks. It really doesn't bother me that people think it's not perfect. We didn't design the space to be perfect, nor did we have the money to make it so. Just wanted everyone to know it's not that we didn't try to make it as nice as we could. If I took the criticism poorly you would definitely know. Those that know me personally (which is essentially no one here to me knowledge) know that I'm incredibly laid back. But, yeah I have been working on this place for an incredible amount of time, so it's kind of like calling someones newborn ugly.

TLDR: Thanks for coming, glad you enjoyed the beer, I love you all.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 28, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
Hey KCFD cat, we're all #teamDoubleShift. All suggestions were just that, and we're made in the spirit of assistance not criticism. :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 28, 2015, 04:29:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mK8xGw2.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 28, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
KCFD, you guys should kick out a sour.  I love them and smash a lot of beer at one time.  Sales oppy, and stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 28, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
maybe you didnt sell us any stake, BUT WE ARE ALL SHAREHOLDERS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 04:46:52 PM
Thx dudez

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 04:47:23 PM
KCFD, you guys should kick out a sour.  I love them and smash a lot of beer at one time.  Sales oppy, and stuff.
Thinking about doing a dark sour beer this winter.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
I really need to try the IPA. Ms. wacky and I were getting hangry, so we needed to eat. I'm a Belgian beer guy. I was a fan.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 28, 2015, 04:59:49 PM
I really need to try the IPA. Ms. wacky and I were getting hangry, so we needed to eat. I'm a Belgian beer guy. I was a fan.
You said you were coming back. Then you didn't.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2015, 05:09:39 PM
I really need to try the IPA. Ms. wacky and I were getting hangry, so we needed to eat. I'm a Belgian beer guy. I was a fan.
You said you were coming back. Then you didn't.

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I know. Our intentions were to come back. 'Clams called and invited us over. I had told him I would hang earlier in the week. I'll be back tho!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 28, 2015, 05:29:13 PM
I really need to try the IPA. Ms. wacky and I were getting hangry, so we needed to eat. I'm a Belgian beer guy. I was a fan.
You said you were coming back. Then you didn't.

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I know. Our intentions were to come back. 'Clams called and invited us over. I had told him I would hang earlier in the week. I'll be back tho!
Wait i thought Clams died or something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2015, 05:31:54 PM
It must have been that fake pissclams guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 28, 2015, 05:41:27 PM
I so nailed those garage doors as the reason for any temp issues. Bob Hamilton plumbing here Phil comes!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2015, 05:55:53 PM
I honestly didn't notice any temp problems. It was a hot day tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 28, 2015, 05:59:30 PM
All this talk of hot temperatures has me craving a cold brew.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 28, 2015, 06:23:47 PM
Having a food truck out in front for DS and border to share is going to be great.

Definitely should be some watch parties there this fall
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on July 28, 2015, 06:33:59 PM
This thing is like $300 and you can take it down when you don't need it.

(http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/2TV503_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 28, 2015, 06:36:11 PM
This really is a KC thing... I can name a 100 places that need to invest in those.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 28, 2015, 07:30:15 PM
work a deal with AST.   He caters, you guys split the profits.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2015, 07:53:36 PM
This 1 direction crowd is redic down here. I mean, ppl were showing up at 2pm today. WTH are these kids doing out in the parking lots for that long?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on July 28, 2015, 08:30:44 PM
KCFD, do you have a scotch ale or anything close to that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 29, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
KCFD, would you be offended if i ordered 2 beers and drank 1 then poured the other over my head to celebrate the grand opening?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 29, 2015, 10:00:16 AM
KCFD, would you be offended if i ordered 2 beers and drank 1 then poured the other over my head to celebrate the grand opening?
Nope.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 29, 2015, 09:12:41 PM
KCFD, would you be offended if i ordered 2 beers and drank 1 then poured the other over my head to celebrate the grand opening?
Nope.

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I :lol: at both comments.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 29, 2015, 09:13:43 PM
Is the first week what you had planned? I really hope you are kicking ass and I will visit your slightly warm establishment the next time I am in KC...maybe in September!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 29, 2015, 09:42:39 PM
KCFD, do you have a scotch ale or anything close to that?

answering direct questions from potential customers doesnt appear to be a.strong suit for our guy kcfdcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 29, 2015, 09:48:32 PM
KCFD, do you have a scotch ale or anything close to that?

answering direct questions from potential customers doesnt appear to be a.strong suit for our guy kcfdcat

OneCat WW!!!!  He didn't have a Scotch all up last weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 29, 2015, 10:53:16 PM
KCFD, do you have a scotch ale or anything close to that?
We don't now, but to certainly a possibility for the future. I'm open to pretty much anything.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 29, 2015, 10:53:52 PM
KCFD, do you have a scotch ale or anything close to that?

answering direct questions from potential customers doesnt appear to be a.strong suit for our guy kcfdcat
Sorry man. I've been busy. Can't spend all day on here.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 29, 2015, 10:55:40 PM
Is the first week what you had planned? I really hope you are kicking ass and I will visit your slightly warm establishment the next time I am in KC...maybe in September!
It was a good weekend, hoping the next few weeks are good to us also.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 30, 2015, 06:40:22 AM
jesus christ, would you guys quit being rough ridin' morons. keep doing what you're doing, kcfd. i'm stopping by on my next trip to KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 30, 2015, 07:01:08 AM
I am pretty sure KCFDcat is fine with this thread's direction. It sounds like several posters have already visited his establishment and several others are making plans too. A cult following from a message board would likely be about 50% of what is needed to keep the doors open. A la La Hacienda.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 30, 2015, 07:38:39 AM
I am pretty sure KCFDcat is fine with this thread's direction. It sounds like several posters have already visited his establishment and several others are making plans too. A cult following from a message board would likely be about 50% of what is needed to keep the doors open. A la La Hacienda.


Gonna win 'em all!

that was me telling wetwillie not to be a rough ridin' douche, without telling wetwillie not to be a rough ridin' douche, but there you go, now i'm saying it. wetwillie, don't be a rough ridin' douche.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2015, 08:23:28 AM
Sometimes being direct is the best approach
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 30, 2015, 08:56:46 AM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/30/08b1dc814275075c4676b9ec685f88a1.jpg)

Is that cold enough for you guys?!?!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 30, 2015, 09:01:31 AM
That's too cold.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2015, 09:04:49 AM
About 54% too much humidity
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on July 30, 2015, 09:07:04 AM

KCFD, do you have a scotch ale or anything close to that?
We don't now, but to certainly a possibility for the future. I'm open to pretty much anything.

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Cool. I'm planning to check it out before the Roys game on the 8th.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 30, 2015, 09:54:54 AM

KCFD, do you have a scotch ale or anything close to that?
We don't now, but to certainly a possibility for the future. I'm open to pretty much anything.

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Cool. I'm planning to check it out before the Roys game on the 8th.
Sounds good man.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 30, 2015, 10:33:55 AM
I will probably swing by tonight with a big shot client.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 30, 2015, 10:38:42 AM
I will probably swing by tonight with a big shot client.

I'll be here.

Man, I've met more gE people in the last week(1), than all other times combined!  :ksu:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 30, 2015, 11:11:35 AM
Hi, KCFDcat! So I don't think I ever asked. Are you still a firefighter on the side or are you doing this full time? Are you guys open 7 days a week or more on the weekends? TIA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on July 30, 2015, 11:12:32 AM

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/30/08b1dc814275075c4676b9ec685f88a1.jpg)

Is that cold enough for you guys?!?!

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My wife is gonna bitch the whole rough ridin' time we are there.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 30, 2015, 11:16:11 AM
Hi, KCFDcat! So I don't think I ever asked. Are you still a firefighter on the side or are you doing this full time? Are you guys open 7 days a week or more on the weekends? TIA
Still work for the fd. Don't know how long that will last, depends on how the brewery is doing financially I suppose.

Right now we're open thurs-sun

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 30, 2015, 11:18:07 AM
 :thumbs: Cool. Thanks for the heads up. I'll be in Salina this weekend for a wedding, but I'll be back next week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2015, 11:28:21 AM
I get that it's like his baby, but it wouldn't hurt KCFD to take of the martyr pants. yeesh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 30, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
I get that it's like his baby, but it wouldn't hurt KCFD to take of the martyr pants. yeesh.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2015, 11:40:32 AM
*Take off*
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 30, 2015, 11:47:42 AM
*Take off*

Oh, makes much more sense now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 30, 2015, 12:00:59 PM
*Take off*

Oh, makes much more sense now.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 30, 2015, 02:41:15 PM
basically that was m.cat demanding a vestibule
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 01, 2015, 06:42:58 PM
I went to Jalapeños tonight for the first time. Not bad. Not bad at all. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 03, 2015, 10:08:15 AM
I went to Jalapeños tonight for the first time. Not bad. Not bad at all.

jalapenos is great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2015, 10:14:20 AM
What/where is jalapeños?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 03, 2015, 10:19:36 AM
What/where is jalapeños?

mexican restaurant in brookside, next to the Brooksider.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2015, 10:23:25 AM
 :thumbs: Will give it a shot this weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 03, 2015, 10:30:11 AM
there's nothing extraordinary about it, it's just good food and i haven't had a bad experience.

feel like i should clarify after the MrsGooch/Gooch/LC's debacle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on August 03, 2015, 10:32:43 AM
When I grew up in Brookside it was a Dos Hombres. I remember one time, I was maybe 6, I ordered a hot dog. The family had a pretty good laugh at my expense but we all still talk today and have a good time in each others company. We're probably doing Thanksgiving at my mansion this year. Have a good day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2015, 10:32:58 AM
lol. Fair. I just like trying new places. We've done Margaritas 4 Sundays in a row and I feel like we should start mixing it up soon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 03, 2015, 10:33:52 AM
lol. Fair. I just like trying new places. We've done Margaritas 4 Sundays in a row and I feel like we should start mixing it up soon.

i had Margarita's for the first time Friday and i can confidently say that Jalapeno's is better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2015, 10:35:43 AM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 03, 2015, 10:37:56 AM
there's nothing extraordinary about it, it's just good food and i haven't had a bad experience.

feel like i should clarify after the MrsGooch/Gooch/LC's debacle.

So in 'tater speak great = adequate. Got it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 03, 2015, 10:46:23 AM
he does have some of the best reviews, thats for sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on August 03, 2015, 10:48:06 AM
Margaritas is like 6th on the list of SW Boulevard Mexican places. It is better than Manny's tho (Manny's is total garbage).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 03, 2015, 10:49:52 AM
there's nothing extraordinary about it, it's just good food and i haven't had a bad experience.

feel like i should clarify after the MrsGooch/Gooch/LC's debacle.

So in 'tater speak great = adequate. Got it.

pfft, no. i think it's great but apparently some people have more refined palates than mine so i want to be sure to set appropriate expectations.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2015, 10:52:44 AM
Margaritas is like 6th on the list of SW Boulevard Mexican places. It is better than Manny's tho (Manny's is total garbage).
It's #1 in my heart, but I agree that Manny's is total trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 03, 2015, 01:22:01 PM
Margaritas is like 6th on the list of SW Boulevard Mexican places. It is better than Manny's tho (Manny's is total garbage).
It's #1 in my heart, but I agree that Manny's is total trash.

Ponaks or patron or Los tules for your Sunday Mexican fix.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2015, 01:25:25 PM
Yeah, we throw in patron and ponaks from time to time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 03, 2015, 01:37:36 PM
pretty sure ponaks has the worst salsa in KC - maybe the world.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 03, 2015, 01:53:21 PM
pretty sure ponaks has the worst salsa in KC - maybe the world.   

It is bad... They now bring a green one as well that isn't horrible. Their cheese and guac is good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 03, 2015, 02:00:32 PM
El Patron was always my go to down there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2015, 02:01:21 PM
ponaks is terrible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on August 03, 2015, 02:07:54 PM
La Fonda El Taquito is the correct answer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 03, 2015, 02:09:38 PM
quit hating on ponaks you dorks, the cinco de mayo i had there like 2 years ago was a blast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2015, 02:12:34 PM
anyone had Rudy's on 43rd near Westport?  tacos are amaze
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 03, 2015, 02:14:45 PM
To clarify, I went to the Jalapenos in Stanley/Overland Park, but it's all the same.

Chubby Burrito is what I got, and it was pretty great.

I'm sure most are shocked, but there aren't a lot of great Mexican places in OP.  We struggled to find one we really liked, so it's good to find at least one.  Mi Rancito was alright.  I heard there's a place in Lenexa that isn't bad, but I need to find out what it's name is and go there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 03, 2015, 02:16:53 PM
Margaritas is like 6th on the list of SW Boulevard Mexican places. It is better than Manny's tho (Manny's is total garbage).
It's #1 in my heart, but I agree that Manny's is total trash.

Taqueria Mexico on SW Boulevard is my favorite in KC, though. Love that place.

I ate at Manny's once.  It may be the most overrated restaurant in KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 03, 2015, 02:24:17 PM
Sol azteca on sw blvd near rainbow/Rosedale bbq was my go to, but I haven't been since they changed the name.

Best queso blanco I've ever had
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 03, 2015, 02:27:23 PM
To clarify, I went to the Jalapenos in Stanley/Overland Park, but it's all the same.

Chubby Burrito is what I got, and it was pretty great.

I'm sure most are shocked, but there aren't a lot of great Mexican places in OP.  We struggled to find one we really liked, so it's good to find at least one.  Mi Rancito was alright.  I heard there's a place in Lenexa that isn't bad, but I need to find out what it's name is and go there.

try the margaritas at Frida's on 121st in OP.  tell them that shellshock sent you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 03, 2015, 02:49:33 PM

Taqueria Mexico on SW Boulevard is my favorite in KC, though. Love that place.


this.  Rudy's is fantastic.  call me crazy - I love cactus grill too.  not as "authentic" I guess, but very good. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on August 03, 2015, 08:18:17 PM
Had Ponaks tonight. Great margs. I like being able to mix in the green salsa. The rest of the meal was average. Jalapeños is comparable. Los rules and rudys are both better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 03, 2015, 08:22:19 PM
Ponaks has gotten worse recently. they changed up their menu and took away a lot of menu options. also i feel like they used to have better salsa (could be wrong), but now just have shitty red that tastes like marinara, and spicy green which is decent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 03, 2015, 08:46:48 PM
To clarify, I went to the Jalapenos in Stanley/Overland Park, but it's all the same.

Chubby Burrito is what I got, and it was pretty great.

I'm sure most are shocked, but there aren't a lot of great Mexican places in OP.  We struggled to find one we really liked, so it's good to find at least one.  Mi Rancito was alright.  I heard there's a place in Lenexa that isn't bad, but I need to find out what it's name is and go there.

try the margaritas at Frida's on 121st in OP.  tell them that shellshock sent you

I didn't have margaritas there, but it was very good.  It's just about half a mile from my house.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 03, 2015, 09:01:29 PM
Pan, try Panzon's at 87th and lackman (I think it's lackman. It's right across the corner from henhouse).

Also, mannys is the one whitepplmex shop on SW Blvd. It's horrible that they do so well when so many better places are practically next door.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 03, 2015, 09:27:36 PM
Pan, try Panzon's at 87th and lackman (I think it's lackman. It's right across the corner from henhouse).

Also, mannys is the one whitepplmex shop on SW Blvd. It's horrible that they do so well when so many better places are practically next door.

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That sounds familiar. I'll give it a shot.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 03, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
To clarify, I went to the Jalapenos in Stanley/Overland Park, but it's all the same.

Chubby Burrito is what I got, and it was pretty great.

I'm sure most are shocked, but there aren't a lot of great Mexican places in OP.  We struggled to find one we really liked, so it's good to find at least one.  Mi Rancito was alright.  I heard there's a place in Lenexa that isn't bad, but I need to find out what it's name is and go there.
You're probs talking about El macho in Lenexa. And it is delish.

I also enjoy jalapeños, and I live within walking distance to the brookside location! 1/2 price margs on Tuesdays!  (maybe Wednesday)

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 03, 2015, 09:54:02 PM
Ponaks has gotten worse recently. they changed up their menu and took away a lot of menu options. also i feel like they used to have better salsa (could be wrong), but now just have shitty red that tastes like marinara, and spicy green which is decent.

As a weekly visitor to Ponaks, there is definitely some menu options to focus on.  The red salsa is pretty much worthless.  The sonora tacos, burrito desabada, guac, original cheese dip (not the white) is the way to go after 2/3 margs first.  I don't mind the regular burritos and tosada but they aren't anything special.  Some of that new stuff they added is pretty gross.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 06, 2015, 08:27:48 PM
If you haven't been to Double Shift yet I question your intelligence and we likely can't be friends.  It is awesome.  Get down there tomorrow for first Friday and try every beer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2015, 08:30:50 PM
Did you go tonight, Dickstone?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 06, 2015, 10:32:26 PM
Did you go tonight, Dickstone?

Yup, the beer is great and the AC was better.  KCFDcat is shockingly young for being so successful.

We will need to have a gE football game watch party there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2015, 11:43:27 PM
My first Friday dance card is too full!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2015, 01:09:11 AM
Did you go tonight, Dickstone?

Yup, the beer is great and the AC was better.  KCFDcat is shockingly young for being so successful.

We will need to have a gE football game watch party there.
I'm in!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 07, 2015, 06:32:21 AM
 :Lurk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 07, 2015, 08:34:15 AM
If you haven't been to Double Shift yet I question your intelligence and we likely can't be friends.  It is awesome.  Get down there tomorrow for first Friday and try every beer.
Thanks for coming down man. Glad you enjoyed the beer,  but more importantly the ac

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on August 07, 2015, 10:04:57 AM
Double Shift-where friends go to enjoy the ac.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 07, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Good job fixing the AC. Are you enjoying the new vestibule?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 07, 2015, 11:20:53 AM
Good job fixing the AC. Are you enjoying the new vestibule?
Lol it's great.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 07, 2015, 11:31:12 AM
KCFDbrewery needs its own thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2015, 03:13:34 PM
KCFDbrewery needs its own thread.

KCFDbreweryandacparlor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 07, 2015, 05:54:02 PM
KCFDbrewery needs its own thread.

KCFDbreweryandacparlor
This made me legit lol

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2015, 09:59:30 AM
Stopped by DS last night in my first friday walkabout....no KCFD  :dunno: 

Twitter rumor is he got hurt?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2015, 10:03:19 AM
Stopped by DS last night in my first friday walkabout....no KCFD  :dunno: 

Twitter rumor is he got hurt?!
He's already retired.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 08, 2015, 10:23:04 AM
Hostile take over by Boulevard.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 08, 2015, 10:23:53 AM
I will be in KC today  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on August 08, 2015, 10:24:04 AM
Stopped by DS last night in my first friday walkabout....no KCFD  :dunno: 

Twitter rumor is he got hurt?!
On job #1 or on job #2?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 08, 2015, 03:05:37 PM
:excited:

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2015, 05:28:42 PM
L to R
White ipa
(Back) double ipa
(Front) pale ale
Saison
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 08, 2015, 05:43:04 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/08/6537ad71d45fe2b8f83d4526bcd92001.jpg)

The a/c feels great.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 08, 2015, 06:31:23 PM
L to R
White ipa
(Back) double ipa
(Front) pale ale
Saison

they were out of the rye and saison, so the left and right were white IPA

and wouldn't you know it, CF3, j-dub, and _FAN showed up a little after I did before they went to the royals game  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 08, 2015, 07:04:51 PM
Someone should set up a grey market delivery service.  I really want the rye but am almost never downtown in evenings.   The beer delivery service should be named Beer Hero.  Every employee gets pagers.  No phones. ...ok burners that change weekly.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 08, 2015, 07:05:52 PM
How long does it take to brew a batch of any of those? 

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2015, 10:17:15 AM
How long does it take to brew a batch of any of those? 

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I heard the barkeep say the next batch of Rye was about ready.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on August 09, 2015, 11:32:30 AM
Flights are only $3?!?     :beersmiley:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 09, 2015, 12:14:11 PM
Someone should set up a grey market delivery service.  I really want the rye but am almost never downtown in evenings.   The beer delivery service should be named Beer Hero.  Every employee gets pagers.  No phones. ...ok burners that change weekly.

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Call in a "fire" at your house but use a secret code word. Boom free delivery service.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 09, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
Thanks for coming down this weekend guys. Sorry I wasn't there at all this weekend, I broke my foot Friday morning.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2015, 01:42:19 PM
Flights are only $3?!?     :beersmiley:

flights are $5...still a deal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 09, 2015, 02:05:04 PM
I would like to report a fire.  It's at least a two (one of those big'ish bottles that you see at local establishments) container fire.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 09, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
Also, fires are easier to extinguish with a fresh double expresso, with one raw sugar, from The Roasterie,  imo.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 09, 2015, 02:14:05 PM
 What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on August 09, 2015, 02:22:14 PM
Might as well get ipa4me in here so he can try to sell you some honeywell crap
Wouldn't help.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on August 09, 2015, 02:24:34 PM
L to R
White ipa
(Back) double ipa
(Front) pale ale
Saison

they were out of the rye and saison, so the left and right were white IPA

and wouldn't you know it, CF3, j-dub, and _FAN showed up a little after I did before they went to the royals game  :cheers:

:cheers:

Very nice. I had the White (very good) and the Double (really hoppy, but expected that) and enjoyed it. I'm not big on the soccer that was on tv (sorry soccer guys), but I get it (it was SKC).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on August 09, 2015, 02:30:22 PM
What are you talking about?
Beer Hero delivery service
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on August 09, 2015, 03:40:28 PM
Flights are only $3?!?     :beersmiley:

flights are $5...still a deal.

It's $3 on the pic that roidhead posted so maybe that was a happy hour special or something? But yeah even $5 is a good price for a flight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
Flights are only $3?!?     :beersmiley:

flights are $5...still a deal.

It's $3 on the pic that roidhead posted so maybe that was a happy hour special or something? But yeah even $5 is a good price for a flight.

Possibly due to only having 2 beers left?  The $5 flights were 4 beers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 09, 2015, 06:23:39 PM
L to R
White ipa
(Back) double ipa
(Front) pale ale
Saison

they were out of the rye and saison, so the left and right were white IPA

and wouldn't you know it, CF3, j-dub, and _FAN showed up a little after I did before they went to the royals game  :cheers:

:cheers:

Very nice. I had the White (very good) and the Double (really hoppy, but expected that) and enjoyed it. I'm not big on the soccer that was on tv (sorry soccer guys), but I get it (it was SKC).

I want to go back soon, and when I do I'm buying a t shirt!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2015, 07:13:12 PM
good grief, i leave for a couple weeks and this thread turns into a ponak's bashing free for all
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 09, 2015, 07:25:55 PM
its pretty sad mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
good grief, i leave for a couple weeks and this thread turns into a ponak's bashing free for all

I tried to hold serve but you can't help those who don't want help.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-dub on August 09, 2015, 09:02:39 PM
i really wanna try the rye. when will i be able to arrange that, kcfdcat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 09, 2015, 10:44:14 PM
i really wanna try the rye. when will i be able to arrange that, kcfdcat?
Will be back on next week.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2015, 04:17:31 PM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/in-the-east-bottoms-john-mcdonald-sets-out-to-brew-the-future/Content?oid=5377543&showFullText=true (http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/in-the-east-bottoms-john-mcdonald-sets-out-to-brew-the-future/Content?oid=5377543&showFullText=true)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on August 10, 2015, 04:39:13 PM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/in-the-east-bottoms-john-mcdonald-sets-out-to-brew-the-future/Content?oid=5377543&showFullText=true (http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/in-the-east-bottoms-john-mcdonald-sets-out-to-brew-the-future/Content?oid=5377543&showFullText=true)

3rd picture down, graffiti censor fail  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 10, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
sound like kc's finally found their ward morgan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 10, 2015, 05:43:36 PM
sound like kc's finally found their ward morgan

I had to google who this was....don't think the comparison works.  John hasn't done very much rehabbing of old buildings in KC compared to a lot of developers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 10, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
sound like kc's finally found their ward morgan

I had to google who this was....don't think the comparison works.  John hasn't done very much rehabbing of old buildings in KC compared to a lot of developers.

i mean the whole article was about the boulevard guy starting to buy everything possible in the east bottoms and rehab them but yeah ok. kc people so defensive.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 10, 2015, 07:09:43 PM
in town for a couple days and just wanted to say char bar is excellent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 10, 2015, 07:49:30 PM
sound like kc's finally found their ward morgan

I had to google who this was....don't think the comparison works.  John hasn't done very much rehabbing of old buildings in KC compared to a lot of developers.

i mean the whole article was about the boulevard guy starting to buy everything possible in the east bottoms and rehab them but yeah ok. kc people so defensive.  :lol:

Not sure what is defensive about my comment but okay....maybe I didn't read the right story about Ward, what I found was he helped renovate like all of downtown Manhattan..not quite like squatting on old industrial district's buildings.....help a brother out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on August 10, 2015, 10:24:00 PM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/in-the-east-bottoms-john-mcdonald-sets-out-to-brew-the-future/Content?oid=5377543&showFullText=true (http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/in-the-east-bottoms-john-mcdonald-sets-out-to-brew-the-future/Content?oid=5377543&showFullText=true)

3rd picture down, graffiti censor fail  :D

It's the Pitch there is no censor, they have porn ads in the back of the paper (and a good sex column)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on August 11, 2015, 07:36:44 AM
Fair point kind sir. Merp.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 11, 2015, 05:12:00 PM
Streetcars are going to be late..stupid builder of the cars (CAF-USA) is running behind  :don'tcare:  :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 12, 2015, 03:03:09 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100007583717891/videos/1597691480493627/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 12, 2015, 03:13:00 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100007583717891/videos/1597691480493627/
https://www.facebook.com/jus.bria.984/videos/10153167801394200/

What in the world is going on today?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on August 12, 2015, 03:13:03 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100007583717891/videos/1597691480493627/
KCMO cops don't shoot first. That could have been an iffy situation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 12, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100007583717891/videos/1597691480493627/
KCMO cops don't shoot first. That could have been an iffy situation.
I can't imagine how what she was doing would warrant any sort of police officer to draw a weapon. Clearly just a crazy person off her crazy pills.

Wasn't violent towards anyone, just wanted to roll around in the streets. Rely didn't even resist arrest.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on August 12, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100007583717891/videos/1597691480493627/
KCMO cops don't shoot first. That could have been an iffy situation.
I can't imagine how what she was doing would warrant any sort of police officer to draw a weapon. Clearly just a crazy person off her crazy pills.

Wasn't violent towards anyone, just wanted to roll around in the streets. Rely didn't even resist arrest.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 12, 2015, 04:15:09 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100007583717891/videos/1597691480493627/
KCMO cops don't shoot first. That could have been an iffy situation.
I can't imagine how what she was doing would warrant any sort of police officer to draw a weapon. Clearly just a crazy person off her crazy pills.

Wasn't violent towards anyone, just wanted to roll around in the streets. Rely didn't even resist arrest.

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Yes. Sarcasm is not working very well for me.
Got it. Sorry slobber.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 14, 2015, 12:03:32 PM
k_m & mrs. k_m will be at new Crossroads hotspot DSBCo to watch the AL leading KC Royals this evening.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
Has anyone been to the Quiznos in downtown? I don't know why I continue to go. I think I still do because I hate myself. Today's wait was 35 minutes. Every time I go in there, there's always a long ass wait, even if there isn't a line. These ppl have to be the bottom of the barrel in the employment world and I don't know how they still have jobs. Also, the manager was giving free drinks out to their customers today for the wait, but ignored to give me one. Do I have a punchable face or something? Then, when I get back to work, the chips taste stale and I look at the expiration date and they were expired in June. They're selling expired chips for crying out loud.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on August 14, 2015, 01:36:47 PM
I would never ignore to give you a beer wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2015, 01:38:18 PM
I would never ignore to give you a beer wacky
Thanks, friend!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on August 14, 2015, 01:39:27 PM
I think Quiznos is gross.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
I think Quiznos is gross.
Their honey mustard and pepper bar keeps me coming back unfortunately.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on August 14, 2015, 01:42:29 PM
Has anyone been to the Quiznos in downtown? I don't know why I continue to go. I think I still do because I hate myself. Today's wait was 35 minutes. Every time I go in there, there's always a long ass wait, even if there isn't a line. These ppl have to be the bottom of the barrel in the employment world and I don't know how they still have jobs. Also, the manager was giving free drinks out to their customers today for the wait, but ignored to give me one. Do I have a punchable face or something? Then, when I get back to work, the chips taste stale and I look at the expiration date and they were expired in June. They're selling expired chips for crying out loud.  :curse:

I stopped going there about 4 years ago when some old lady got super racisty and threw a giant temper tantrum because she thought they didn't weigh out enough chicken
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2015, 01:44:28 PM
That store is awful all around. However, it's the only thing that's close to me down there. I usually go to Cosentinos, but some times I want to be lazy and walk next door.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 14, 2015, 01:51:10 PM
quiznos went bankrupt like 2 years ago.

wacky you do know that the expiration date on any food is a complete best guess by the manufacturer and in no way, shape or form is regulated by the FDA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2015, 01:51:37 PM
quiznos went bankrupt like 2 years ago.

wacky you do know that the expiration date on any food is a complete best guess by the manufacturer and in no way, shape or form is regulated by the FDA
I don't care!  :curse: They tasted awful, but I still ate them because I'm a monster!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 14, 2015, 01:59:30 PM
That store is awful all around. However, it's the only thing that's close to me down there.

no it's not.

Off-Broadway Cafe on 9th is very good. They have different specials every day and it's quick and cheap.
Streetside Cafe on 10th has fantastic burgers, also have specials, also quick and cheap.
Red Dragon on 8th is super cheap and fast chinese food
you could also walk to Zaina for a gyro
also there are like 8 shitty places in that food court at 11th & Baltimore that are all less shitty than quizno's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2015, 02:05:43 PM
True. I was just talking about right next to my place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 14, 2015, 02:06:04 PM
if quizno's is right next to your place, so is streetside cafe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 14, 2015, 02:14:03 PM
maybe wacky just needs to punish himself with quiznos  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2015, 02:59:00 PM
Has anyone been to the Quiznos in downtown? I don't know why I continue to go. I think I still do because I hate myself. Today's wait was 35 minutes. Every time I go in there, there's always a long ass wait, even if there isn't a line. These ppl have to be the bottom of the barrel in the employment world and I don't know how they still have jobs. Also, the manager was giving free drinks out to their customers today for the wait, but ignored to give me one. Do I have a punchable face or something? Then, when I get back to work, the chips taste stale and I look at the expiration date and they were expired in June. They're selling expired chips for crying out loud.  :curse:

I assume you mean the one on Broadway? There are at least 2 downtown.... I only go there if I am super lazy. The new owners of the convenience shop seem to be doing better of running that part but not sure if they run the Q too....Jimmy Johns, subway, scratch bakery, sashas, Milwaukee deli, Los corrals, peanut, streetside cafe, silver spoon, Mildreds are all closer than cosentinos for a quick meal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2015, 03:00:15 PM
That store is awful all around. However, it's the only thing that's close to me down there.

no it's not.

Off-Broadway Cafe on 9th is very good. They have different specials every day and it's quick and cheap.
Streetside Cafe on 10th has fantastic burgers, also have specials, also quick and cheap.
Red Dragon on 8th is super cheap and fast chinese food
you could also walk to Zaina for a gyro
also there are like 8 shitty places in that food court at 11th & Baltimore that are all less shitty than quizno's

I missed mocat already mushing other options in his face. Quaff time!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 14, 2015, 03:03:54 PM
peanut for a quick meal.

L@L@L
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2015, 03:06:38 PM
peanut for a quick meal.

L@L@L

*Pre-planning for carryout required
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2015, 03:20:17 PM
I'm doing the peanut tonight. I usually workout during work lunch and pick something up on my way back to work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2015, 03:22:28 PM
I always call in for the peanut. That wait tho! :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 14, 2015, 08:19:05 PM
Pretty poppin in here.  Dom't see any of you nerds.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 14, 2015, 08:22:30 PM
do they have the saison and the rye?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 14, 2015, 08:25:40 PM
Obvs.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 14, 2015, 08:28:16 PM
they were sold out when i was there last week  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 14, 2015, 08:29:10 PM
Welp.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 20, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
good grief blue angels, we get it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 20, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
good grief blue angels, we get it

seriously
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 20, 2015, 03:42:59 PM
they almost hit my office
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on August 20, 2015, 04:28:49 PM
they almost hit my office
(https://media.giphy.com/media/6c1giRDmzdvdm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2015, 04:29:27 PM
It's nuts!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2015, 05:47:11 PM
I missed it  :bawl: Hope they do it again tomorrow....the jet I was on taxied right by all 6 of them parked though :fanningbrag:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on August 21, 2015, 02:26:24 PM
http://eeckc.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2015-Ethnic-Festival-Menu.pdf

who's going for some haggas pups?

lot's of meat goat on the menu as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 21, 2015, 03:57:53 PM
good grief blue angels, we get it
:runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 21, 2015, 05:08:06 PM
good grief blue angels, we get it
:runaway:

Went up to Case and checked them out....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 23, 2015, 05:24:00 PM
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BLUE ANGELS WERE SO COOL. WOW I'M GLAD I SAW THEM. HOW COULD YOU FUN HATERS NOT LOVE THAT???????/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 23, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BLUE ANGELS WERE SO COOL. WOW I'M GLAD I SAW THEM. HOW COULD YOU FUN HATERS NOT LOVE THAT???????/
I take it they weren't flying by your house for 8 hours straight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 23, 2015, 05:52:25 PM
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BLUE ANGELS WERE SO COOL. WOW I'M GLAD I SAW THEM. HOW COULD YOU FUN HATERS NOT LOVE THAT???????/
I take it they weren't flying by your house for 8 hours straight.

NO AND I WOULDN'T CARE IF THEY DID
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 23, 2015, 05:54:40 PM
too much cool stuff?  smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 23, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
I'VE NEVER BEEN PROUDER OF THIS COUNTRY
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 23, 2015, 06:20:56 PM
Guys, they almost hit our building. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 23, 2015, 06:22:36 PM
Guys, they almost hit our building. :frown:

no they didn't
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 23, 2015, 06:24:18 PM
Guys, they almost hit our building. :frown:

no they didn't
our building rumbled and the dog barked!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 23, 2015, 06:27:21 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on August 23, 2015, 06:47:47 PM
Glad to be back in :kcblue: after being in Canada for 5 months bros :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 23, 2015, 08:55:57 PM
It's not a pure KC thing, but they opened a Scheels in OP, and it's like the most amazing place ever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 23, 2015, 09:42:04 PM
It's not a pure KC thing, but they opened a Scheels in OP, and it's like the most amazing place ever.
too big, very annoying
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 23, 2015, 11:33:49 PM
It's not a pure KC thing, but they opened a Scheels in OP, and it's like the most amazing place ever.
too big, very annoying

I enjoyed the size and variety.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 24, 2015, 12:41:55 AM
i went in looking for a new tennis racquet but never found the tennis racquet section.  after looking around i got annoyed and left.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 24, 2015, 08:48:16 AM
i went in looking for a new tennis racquet but never found the tennis racquet section.  after looking around i got annoyed and left.

i bought a tennis racquet there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2015, 12:52:28 PM
Quote
the first of four vehicles now should be delivered by October 29

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/bzwicf/picture32539716/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/streetcar)

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/33w504/picture32539722/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/streetcar%20inside%202)

http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article32539725.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article32539725.html)

 :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2015, 01:06:59 PM
forget the haters, thats awesome

what are the routes?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 27, 2015, 01:08:22 PM
Route
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2015, 01:09:42 PM
Route

like a line or a loop

dont make me switch tabs to google this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 27, 2015, 01:11:08 PM
hey mocat, any idea if the street car will make it close enough to bring any of the townies home from their elite pak at bobby t's for the first away game??  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 27, 2015, 01:12:33 PM
(https://jimmycsays.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kcstreetcarmap.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 27, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
hey mocat, any idea if the street car will make it close enough to bring any of the townies home from their elite pak at bobby t's for the first away game??  :lol:

This is basically a yard dog post.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2015, 01:20:11 PM
i might go to hyvee if they built a streetcar from the west side
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2015, 01:23:31 PM
for reference

(http://greatergreater.com/images/201412/112233.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on August 27, 2015, 01:48:24 PM
oh crap philly big balla
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
I feel like this needs to go to the plaza or westport for it to accomplish much.  Either that, or it needs to go east to prospect and back.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on August 27, 2015, 02:33:31 PM
for reference

(http://greatergreater.com/images/201412/112233.png)

Wonder what Denver RTD looks like on that scale.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
It's not a pure KC thing, but they opened a Scheels in OP, and it's like the most amazing place ever.
too big, very annoying

I feel like this about OP. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2015, 02:46:47 PM
I feel like this needs to go to the plaza or westport for it to accomplish much.

obviously that is the goal, but what you see now is the extent of what was approved with phase 1 or whatever.

however, phase 1 will be amazing for out of town people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2015, 02:48:15 PM
also it will be free to ride
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 02:49:24 PM
also it will be free to ride

That is fantastic.  The problem I see, is that there isn't a lot of great parking options in that zone that aren't already congested.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2015, 02:57:35 PM
like i said, it is more for the out of town visitor than anyone else at this point. a lot of people stay at the westin / sheraton in crown center and then do things downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 03:04:29 PM
also it will be free to ride

That is fantastic.  The problem I see, is that there isn't a lot of great parking options in that zone that aren't already congested.

Tons of parking actually... Too much damn parking. This will help those that do Park not have to get back in their cars and drive closer to their 2nd destination.

At this point it's as much an economic development tool as it is a transportation tool... Like mocat said, the plan is already to go to the plaza/umkc.... This is just phase 1.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 03:07:53 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2015, 03:08:42 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

hopefully phase 2 is a monorail
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 03:10:33 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 27, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
Uber is so mumped!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 03:21:44 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.

The not going east part is too bad.  That part of the city needs something like this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 03:24:05 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.

The not going east part is too bad.  That part of the city needs something like this.

Agreed... They had their shot.... They voted it down.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2015, 03:30:23 PM
didn't google have to try like 3 times to get people on the east side to sign up for completely free internet?  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on August 27, 2015, 03:35:18 PM
Uber is so mumped!
ha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 03:46:35 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.

The not going east part is too bad.  That part of the city needs something like this.

why?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 04:03:28 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.

The not going east part is too bad.  That part of the city needs something like this.

why?

Access to jobs.  Back when all the voting for this was going down, local radio did a few stats on jobs in the area immediately east of downtown and tied it into a study they were discussing on low property value areas in downtown areas and how they were effected by free public trans.  It was a huge effect in increase of jobs, decrease in crime, and all kinds of other beneficial stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 04:30:41 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.

The not going east part is too bad.  That part of the city needs something like this.

why?

Access to jobs.  Back when all the voting for this was going down, local radio did a few stats on jobs in the area immediately east of downtown and tied it into a study they were discussing on low property value areas in downtown areas and how they were effected by free public trans.  It was a huge effect in increase of jobs, decrease in crime, and all kinds of other beneficial stuff.

Our (KCMO's) current public transportation infrastructure offers a much better solution for the "problem" that you're describing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2015, 04:34:23 PM
there is not enough density in east KCMO for a streetcar route to be feasible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 27, 2015, 04:37:31 PM
Even Charlotte has a (tiny) real train system. I wish KC could be as good as freaking Charlotte
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 04:41:40 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.

The not going east part is too bad.  That part of the city needs something like this.

why?

Access to jobs.  Back when all the voting for this was going down, local radio did a few stats on jobs in the area immediately east of downtown and tied it into a study they were discussing on low property value areas in downtown areas and how they were effected by free public trans.  It was a huge effect in increase of jobs, decrease in crime, and all kinds of other beneficial stuff.

Our (KCMO's) current public transportation infrastructure offers a much better solution for the "problem" that you're describing

Yeah, I understand we have busses.  Relaying the study they discussed regarding free transportation.  I am sure there are a plethora of other issues that the free train won't resolve, but the study was specific to free transport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 05:07:40 PM
I don't necessarily agree totally with this article but it has good points regarding streetcars outside of their transit benefits....for KC, I think transit will be improved as the streetcar expands.

https://nextcity.org/features/view/why-streetcars-arent-about-transit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 07:05:20 PM
Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.

The not going east part is too bad.  That part of the city needs something like this.

why?

Access to jobs.  Back when all the voting for this was going down, local radio did a few stats on jobs in the area immediately east of downtown and tied it into a study they were discussing on low property value areas in downtown areas and how they were effected by free public trans.  It was a huge effect in increase of jobs, decrease in crime, and all kinds of other beneficial stuff.

Our (KCMO's) current public transportation infrastructure offers a much better solution for the "problem" that you're describing

Yeah, I understand we have busses.  Relaying the study they discussed regarding free transportation.  I am sure there are a plethora of other issues that the free train won't resolve, but the study was specific to free transport.
income dependent free public transport on our existing infrastructure would cost the city nothing.  expanding the street car throughout east jackson county would cost +half a billion.

so anyway, ya your first comment was pretty ill conceived as i'm sure you'll agree
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 07:43:53 PM


Is there a timeline for phase 2?  Does phase 2 require another vote?  Is it based on the use/viability of phase 1 over a certain period of time?

Phase 2 efforts will begin once this line is going... Thought is people see it in action and are like "hey I want to take that further". It will require a vote. Prior vote for phase 2 was more extensive (went to waldo and east) and failed at the booth.... Mostly on the East side. So new phase 2 won't go east.

The not going east part is too bad.  That part of the city needs something like this.

why?

Access to jobs.  Back when all the voting for this was going down, local radio did a few stats on jobs in the area immediately east of downtown and tied it into a study they were discussing on low property value areas in downtown areas and how they were effected by free public trans.  It was a huge effect in increase of jobs, decrease in crime, and all kinds of other beneficial stuff.

Our (KCMO's) current public transportation infrastructure offers a much better solution for the "problem" that you're describing

Yeah, I understand we have busses.  Relaying the study they discussed regarding free transportation.  I am sure there are a plethora of other issues that the free train won't resolve, but the study was specific to free transport.
income dependent free public transport on our existing infrastructure would cost the city nothing.  expanding the street car throughout east jackson county would cost +half a billion.

so anyway, ya your first comment was pretty ill conceived as i'm sure you'll agree

Free is what I mean when saying "needs something like this", but whatever.  So, if it is something they can change with the current system,  yes, they should do that instead.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 07:48:21 PM
My bet is the phase 2 extensions won't be free anyways.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 07:53:48 PM
i hope it doesn't pass but if it does i'm looking forward to bitching about it
there are a lot of things KCMO needs- road - sidewalk - bridge repair, accredited schools, increased service budgets for police and fire, sewers that meet EPA guidelines, i could go on for days.  we don't need a streetcar.  it'd be a cool toy, but that's about it in this objective poster's perspective.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2015, 08:03:42 PM
Streetcar is a gateway to all those other luxuries.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 08:25:39 PM
i hope it doesn't pass but if it does i'm looking forward to bitching about it
I like to see you happy 'clams.

Quote
there are a lot of things KCMO needs- road - sidewalk - bridge repair
Sly has already dedicated funds to this in his first term and another vote is coming
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article12617243.html

Quote
accredited schools
Don't think the school's are a funding problem but provisional accreditation has been obtained
http://www.kcpublicschools.org/accreditation

Quote
increased service budgets for police and fire
Not sure what the right number is here but KCMO increased their budget for 2015
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article16412783.html

Quote
sewers that meet EPA guidelines
Already a few years (5th year?) into the 25 year plan to fix this
https://www.kcwaterservices.org/overflow-control-program/

Quote
i could go on for days.
I'm game!

Quote
we don't need a streetcar.  it'd be a cool toy, but that's about it in this objective poster's perspective.
"Need"?  Yeah I mean it's not the same level as hospitals and schools and water supply....it's way more a quality of life thing....like sports, arts, etc....and it is shown to rebuild city cores in other cities which we definitely still need assistance here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 08:31:26 PM
here's the deal- you didn't refute anything i said, in your post.  i don't care that you support the stupid thing.  enjoy it.  i won't.
the streetcar will only negatively impact my quality of life and it can suck it.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 08:37:48 PM
here's the deal- you didn't refute anything i said, in your post.  i don't care that you support the stupid thing.  enjoy it.  i won't.
the streetcar will only negatively impact my quality of life and it can suck it.

Many KCMO residents blather on about streets, schools, sewers and don't realize the city's activity on those topics....which is why I provided the links showing they aren't ignoring those items, rather actively addressing them...doesn't that cover your concern about "there are a lot of things KCMO needs"? 

I do support the stupid thing but wouldn't be that into it if the city wasn't address basic needs as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 08:51:51 PM
so your point is that since they're throwing a fraction of what's needed at the things that keep the city afloat, let's spend an undefined amount on something we don't need.

i don't want to debate the merits of the project because there's really nothing to debate.  just enjoy the 2 miles man. soak it in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 08:57:03 PM
so your point is that since they're throwing a fraction of what's needed at the things that keep the city afloat, let's spend an undefined amount on something we don't need.

i don't want to debate the merits of the project because there's really nothing to debate.  just enjoy the 2 miles man. soak it in.

Yeah I don't care to debate the streetcar at this point as what is done is done and there isn't a defined additional project yet.  I guess I missed that what is being spent on those other items is only a fraction of what is needed.  Where is that info?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 27, 2015, 09:27:21 PM
#teamclams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 09:48:27 PM
so your point is that since they're throwing a fraction of what's needed at the things that keep the city afloat, let's spend an undefined amount on something we don't need.

i don't want to debate the merits of the project because there's really nothing to debate.  just enjoy the 2 miles man. soak it in.

Yeah I don't care to debate the streetcar at this point as what is done is done and there isn't a defined additional project yet.  I guess I missed that what is being spent on those other items is only a fraction of what is needed.  Where is that info?
if you're not aware, KCMO is currently in an either/or situation
any amount we spend on our city's basic needs isn't enough.  do I have a link that details how much it will cost you and I before our schools aren't a national embarrassment? no I don't.  spend until they're fixed and then spend more.  I can safely say that they have a far greater negative impact to our city's bottom line than the street car ever will have a positive one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2015, 11:01:46 PM
Great job guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 11:07:43 PM
so your point is that since they're throwing a fraction of what's needed at the things that keep the city afloat, let's spend an undefined amount on something we don't need.

i don't want to debate the merits of the project because there's really nothing to debate.  just enjoy the 2 miles man. soak it in.

Yeah I don't care to debate the streetcar at this point as what is done is done and there isn't a defined additional project yet.  I guess I missed that what is being spent on those other items is only a fraction of what is needed.  Where is that info?
if you're not aware, KCMO is currently in an either/or situation
any amount we spend on our city's basic needs isn't enough.  do I have a link that details how much it will cost you and I before our schools aren't a national embarrassment? no I don't.  spend until they're fixed and then spend more.  I can safely say that they have a far greater negative impact to our city's bottom line than the street car ever will have a positive one.

Being without child I can't speak with much knowledge on schools but I'd agree it has been a greater negative in orders of magnitude vs. 2 mile streetcar positives.  My assumption has always been it wasn't a $ problem but a suburban flight mixed with parents not caring problem?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 11:24:29 PM
so your point is that since they're throwing a fraction of what's needed at the things that keep the city afloat, let's spend an undefined amount on something we don't need.

i don't want to debate the merits of the project because there's really nothing to debate.  just enjoy the 2 miles man. soak it in.

Yeah I don't care to debate the streetcar at this point as what is done is done and there isn't a defined additional project yet.  I guess I missed that what is being spent on those other items is only a fraction of what is needed.  Where is that info?
if you're not aware, KCMO is currently in an either/or situation
any amount we spend on our city's basic needs isn't enough.  do I have a link that details how much it will cost you and I before our schools aren't a national embarrassment? no I don't.  spend until they're fixed and then spend more.  I can safely say that they have a far greater negative impact to our city's bottom line than the street car ever will have a positive one.

Being without child I can't speak with much knowledge on schools but I'd agree it has been a greater negative in orders of magnitude vs. 2 mile streetcar positives.  My assumption has always been it wasn't a $ problem but a suburban flight mixed with parents not caring problem?
i'm not suggesting that we go buy new schools, but spending money in the east side neighborhoods to create jobs, clean up the dilapidated schools, higher teacher salaries, better & more law enforcement, public assistance in the form of transportation, and more, all these things would help to promote a healthier home environment for the kids in these schools much more than a street car running up and down Independence Ave.  when these kids don't have food to eat, calculus isn't a high priority. i know that the traditional model would dictate that these are problems for the state to address but it's clear that Jeff City has given what they feel is enough.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 11:29:13 PM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 27, 2015, 11:46:59 PM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 28, 2015, 07:38:56 AM
has anyone had gus's fried chicken?
i'm guessing this has been discussed

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article21334215.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on August 28, 2015, 04:00:14 PM
has anyone had gus's fried chicken?
i'm guessing this has been discussed

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article21334215.html
Meh Wichita fried chicken is just as good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 28, 2015, 04:01:25 PM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 28, 2015, 04:03:10 PM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring

Not breeding is the answer I came up with
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 28, 2015, 04:04:00 PM
listen guys i mean yeah we need to fix the schools, and infrastructure stuff, but i mean, we put a man in space before we signed the civil rights act and nobody ever gave a crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on August 28, 2015, 04:24:38 PM
They have been trying to fix the schools for 30 years so maybe it's time to try something else.  I just hope Uber will break the cab monopoly in this town so phase 3 or 4 goes to the airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 29, 2015, 10:09:37 AM
This American Life had a pretty good two part'er on the school problems on the other side of MO a couple weeks ago.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on August 29, 2015, 04:05:41 PM

This American Life had a pretty good two part'er on the school problems on the other side of MO a couple weeks ago.

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This was really good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2015, 09:38:49 AM
Double Shift A/C was on point yesterday!!!!  Out of Rye again  :shakesfist: Met KCFD  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 30, 2015, 09:39:42 AM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring

It's 90% of the reason that we moved to OP.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on August 30, 2015, 10:02:08 AM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring

It's 90% of the reason that we moved to OP.

Out of curiosity, what was the other 10%?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 30, 2015, 10:18:50 AM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring

It's 90% of the reason that we moved to OP.

Out of curiosity, what was the other 10%?

Crime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 30, 2015, 11:27:19 AM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring

It's 90% of the reason that we moved to OP.

Out of curiosity, what was the other 10%?

Crime
parking
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 30, 2015, 11:36:48 AM
Yes kcmo has a huge parking problem
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 30, 2015, 11:37:21 AM
Theres way too much of it is the problem
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 30, 2015, 01:00:43 PM
Theres way too much of it is the problem

I almost always park in a way that takes 3 spaces
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 30, 2015, 04:13:59 PM
Double Shift A/C was on point yesterday!!!!  Out of Rye again  :shakesfist: Met KCFD  :cheers:

I watched the first two innings of the Roy's game there Friday night before I went across the street to the concert. I had the belgian abbey. I think the saison and the rye are the only two I've yet to try.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 30, 2015, 11:26:52 PM
i was at legends this weekend you guys and parking was really easy, like i got front row spots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 31, 2015, 12:32:38 AM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring

It's 90% of the reason that we moved to OP.

Out of curiosity, what was the other 10%?

Proximity to friends/family.  More stuff for kids to do.  Never really fell in love with the Northland (but was willing to stay if necessary).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2015, 08:19:06 AM
I continually forget there is additional kansas city north of the river
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 31, 2015, 10:26:11 AM
panj, you moving from the northland to joco is not urban flight. you just moved from one suburb to another (probably better) one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 31, 2015, 10:27:43 AM
The northland is horrible. 

I mean, just horrible. It's like a bunch of ozark guys visited JoCo, liked the convenience of everything, decided to replicate it, but then just filled it up with a bunch of ozark ppl. 

Just horrible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on August 31, 2015, 03:07:00 PM
The northland is horrible. 

I mean, just horrible. It's like a bunch of ozark guys visited JoCo, liked the convenience of everything, decided to replicate it, but then just filled it up with a bunch of ozark ppl. 

Just horrible.

Perfect description.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 31, 2015, 09:14:11 PM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring

It's 90% of the reason that we moved to OP.

Out of curiosity, what was the other 10%?

Proximity to friends/family.  More stuff for kids to do.  Never really fell in love with the Northland (but was willing to stay if necessary).

I thought the Northland had really good school districts?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on August 31, 2015, 11:19:57 PM
also a big reason why young families  leave Waldo/Brookside for Joco (what you're calling Suburban Flight) is that it's time for their kids to start kindergarten and that ain't happening in Jackson County.

Agree and agree with the prior post.  Shouldn't be where people who care about their kids have to decide between private/Academy Lafayette or leave.  If I knew the answer to that, I'd run for god of the city or something.

this is the only real motivating reason why we're putting our house on the market in the spring

It's 90% of the reason that we moved to OP.

Out of curiosity, what was the other 10%?

Proximity to friends/family.  More stuff for kids to do.  Never really fell in love with the Northland (but was willing to stay if necessary).

I thought the Northland had really good school districts?

Eh, touch and go.  Park Hill is pretty good.  We were in Staley. 

The caveat is that our son has some special needs that Blue Valley could better serve.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on September 01, 2015, 08:35:57 AM
I went from KCMO to BV school district and look at me now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on September 01, 2015, 12:24:28 PM
The northland is horrible. 

I mean, just horrible. It's like a bunch of ozark guys visited JoCo, liked the convenience of everything, decided to replicate it, but then just filled it up with a bunch of ozark ppl. 

Just horrible.

Briarcliff is ok, but their houses keep having electrical fires  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on September 02, 2015, 07:13:34 AM
The northland is great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 02, 2015, 07:28:24 AM
If the airport was in a normal place I would never have stepped foot in the northland in my entire life
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 02, 2015, 07:31:25 AM
If the airport was in a normal place I would never have stepped foot in the northland in my entire life

Besides the airport:

1)bought a car up there once
2)saw "the master" there once
3)went to harrahs for a wedding once
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 02, 2015, 08:12:30 AM

If the airport was in a normal place I would never have stepped foot in the northland in my entire life
casinos tho...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2015, 09:55:01 AM

If the airport was in a normal place I would never have stepped foot in the northland in my entire life
casinos tho...
Northlander/ozark'er outed.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 02, 2015, 10:05:37 AM
i went to the northland to see the Dark Knight Rises premiere in IMAX. that is the only non-airport thing i've ever done in the northland.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 02, 2015, 10:05:56 AM
oh and golfed there once
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on September 02, 2015, 10:11:31 AM
that chick I married is obsessed with some placed called Nell Hills. I think thats up north.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2015, 10:12:33 AM
i went to a beer festival in the northland at parkville.  they basically ran out of all the beers.  i was only a 2 and left.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
that chick I married is obsessed with some placed called Nell Hills. I think thats up north.

nell hills is in northville,  yes.  i have been there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 02, 2015, 10:16:51 AM
oh and golfed there once

oh yeah that is another thing. i have golfed at a few places "up there"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 02, 2015, 10:21:01 AM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7052/6987918247_1016293c4c_b.jpg)

Took my kids up to the Northland to Penguin Park one day. Felt like we were in Iowa by the time we got there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 02, 2015, 10:27:34 AM
Can we get a couple of things straight here first? A. Briar Cliff is not in the Northland. It's like 3 minutes away from downtown. B. That penguin looks lovely, cf3. Why in the world would you have a problem with that place? I'd still play there! C. Parkville is majestic and the best place to go putt putt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 02, 2015, 10:30:25 AM
Can we get a couple of things straight here first? A. Briar Cliff is not in the Northland. It's like 3 minutes away from downtown. B. That penguin looks lovely, cf3. Why in the world would you have a problem with that place? I'd still play there! C. Parkville is majestic and the best place to go putt putt.

I like Penguin Park. Its just very far away. You have to cross a river to get there. I meant it felt like Iowa because it was so far away, just like Iowa.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 02, 2015, 10:31:04 AM
i also would like to consider North Kansas City to be its own thing. like around Armour there are a couple good breweries and Chappell's and whatnot. but actual Kansas City (north), MO is gross
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 02, 2015, 10:31:33 AM
Can we get a couple of things straight here first? A. Briar Cliff is not in the Northland. It's like 3 minutes away from downtown. B. That penguin looks lovely, cf3. Why in the world would you have a problem with that place? I'd still play there! C. Parkville is majestic and the best place to go putt putt.

I like Penguin Park. Its just very far away. You have to cross a river to get there. I meant it felt like Iowa because it was so far away, just like Iowa.
Oh, gotcha.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 02, 2015, 10:33:21 AM
i also would like to consider North Kansas City to be its own thing. like around Armour there are a couple good breweries and Chappell's and whatnot. but actual Kansas City (north), MO is gross

is it worse than raytown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 02, 2015, 10:35:12 AM
actual Kansas City (north), MO is gross

is it worse than raytown

it's like 5 times as big as raytown and i have to drive through it to get to my pud airport (unlike raytown). the only thing i know about Raytown is that the best DMV is there (extreme pro tip here)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 02, 2015, 10:35:59 AM
i like raytown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 02, 2015, 10:40:58 AM
well why did you ask if it was worse than Raytown?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 02, 2015, 10:42:44 AM
i wanted to see if you liked raytown and we could be raytown buds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 02, 2015, 10:44:25 AM
You can tell mocat would be a raytown fan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 02, 2015, 10:45:26 AM
raytown is cool because its not even trying to be something special. its comfortable in its own skin. North KC thinks its hot stuff but I disagree.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 02, 2015, 10:57:24 AM
raytown is cool because its not even trying to be something special. its comfortable in its own skin. North KC thinks its hot stuff but I disagree.

yeah this is pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 02, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
you know where i don't know if i've ever been?

blue springs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2015, 11:05:50 AM
Raytown is a standard MO suburb.  Northland is Joco but in an area that uses more tobacco than something like all but 3 other states and raises all trucks at least 6" above stock height.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 02, 2015, 11:09:34 AM
I worked up in the Northland and stayed with an ex up there quite a bit. Things that can be fun: Zona Rosa, Westin, MO....CASE CLOSED!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 02, 2015, 11:19:29 AM

Raytown is a standard MO suburb.  Northland is Joco but in an area that uses more tobacco than something like all but 3 other states and raises all trucks at least 6" above stock height.

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Northland is Louisburg / Paola with casinos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 02, 2015, 11:21:43 AM

Northland is Louisburg / Paola with casinos

no. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2015, 12:53:02 PM

Northland is Louisburg / Paola with casinos

no.

He is just posting something intentionally wrong to separate himself after outing himself as a northlander/ozark'er earlier ITT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 02, 2015, 01:24:07 PM
im with liblibliblib on forgetting about the city north of the river
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2015, 01:26:59 PM
you know where i don't know if i've ever been?

blue springs.
david cook grew up there.  if that's not reason enough to visit, blue springs is also home to the landahl mountain biking trails which are quite robust.
be careful out there though because there are a lot of ticks and copperheads on those trails.  my motto is safety first.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 02, 2015, 01:46:47 PM


Northland is Louisburg / Paola with casinos

no.

He is just posting something intentionally wrong to separate himself after outing himself as a northlander/ozark'er earlier ITT.

SoJoCo4Lyfe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2015, 02:03:41 PM
Northland is identical to Johnson County, in pretty much every way. I guess the Northland has a few more hills and trees (and Parkville is a pleasant small town when they don't run out of beer), but that's literally all that is different.

Note I have only visited each place, I would never live in either one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2015, 02:19:32 PM
Parkville is a mirage.   It's like the facades along 18th and vine, only for an entire suburb.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 02, 2015, 02:39:31 PM


Northland is Louisburg / Paola with casinos

no.

He is just posting something intentionally wrong to separate himself after outing himself as a northlander/ozark'er earlier ITT.

SoJoCo4Lyfe

(http://media.giphy.com/media/fLK0eUlYZoB6E/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 03, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
i can't stop looking at this thing

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/fjs9w1/picture33636018/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/IMG_IMG_IMG_KCCCH_Render_4_1_EB5B5B52_L142276239)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 03, 2015, 09:40:15 AM
you know where i don't know if i've ever been?

blue springs.
david cook grew up there.  if that's not reason enough to visit, blue springs is also home to the landahl mountain biking trails which are quite robust.
be careful out there though because there are a lot of ticks and copperheads on those trails.  my motto is safety first.

its a great motto
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2015, 09:57:12 AM
idk where to put this but it's pretty interesting

(http://oi62.tinypic.com/348r1gm.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2015, 10:33:35 AM
ave we talked about all the new signs downtown that says no parking from 7am-6pm? Like, these just popped up over the weekend and they're threatening to tow if you're on the side street. No one knows what's going on and they don't have a time frame of when the new signs (paper tied to trees) will come off.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 22, 2015, 10:41:38 AM
ave we talked about all the new signs downtown that says no parking from 7am-6pm? Like, these just popped up over the weekend and they're threatening to tow if you're on the side street. No one knows what's going on and they don't have a time frame of when the new signs (paper tied to trees) will come off.  :curse:

Seems like they would be easy to remove.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on September 22, 2015, 10:48:45 AM
Which streets?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 22, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
WC you live downtown and constantly complain about downtown things like traffic and parking and events and people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2015, 11:15:19 AM
how enforceable is a piece of Big Chief tied to a Bradford Pear?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2015, 11:19:25 AM
Which streets?

i saw it on washington. i think maybe it's just temporary
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2015, 11:31:15 AM
Which streets?

i saw it on washington. i think maybe it's just temporary
Yeah, and all the side streets by Washington. It's just a stinker for non garage parking residents that don't leave for work till 7:30am.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2015, 11:33:33 AM
WC you live downtown and constantly complain about downtown things like traffic and parking and events and people.
Maybe i'm getting older, did you ever think of that one, Cartier?! I mean the drug deals that go down outside of my place on a Tuesday night, can be a bit uneasy at times, but yeah, it's great on the weekends.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2015, 12:13:11 PM
ave we talked about all the new signs downtown that says no parking from 7am-6pm? Like, these just popped up over the weekend and they're threatening to tow if you're on the side street. No one knows what's going on and they don't have a time frame of when the new signs (paper tied to trees) will come off.  :curse:

Road construction...repaving etc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2015, 12:14:18 PM
WC you live downtown and constantly complain about downtown things like traffic and parking and events and people.
Maybe i'm getting older, did you ever think of that one, Cartier?! I mean the drug deals that go down outside of my place on a Tuesday night, can be a bit uneasy at times, but yeah, it's great on the weekends.

Never seen this around but if you do call the cops dork...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 22, 2015, 12:51:34 PM
just make friends with the drug dealers and they will leave you alone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on September 22, 2015, 01:21:55 PM
just make friends with the drug dealers and they will leave you alone
possibly a discount too!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 22, 2015, 01:35:06 PM
WC you live downtown and constantly complain about downtown things like traffic and parking and events and people.
Maybe i'm getting older, did you ever think of that one, Cartier?! I mean the drug deals that go down outside of my place on a Tuesday night, can be a bit uneasy at times, but yeah, it's great on the weekends.

Never seen this around but if you do call the cops dork...

Narc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2015, 01:39:59 PM
We called maintenance security before, but it turned out security was friends with them and they just bumped their music louder.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 22, 2015, 01:44:15 PM
And they told them who called security too  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2015, 01:45:37 PM
And they told them who called security too  :lol:
I usually bang on the window and look out at them, but they just flip me off, while the girls are wasted wrapping their legs around the light pole.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on September 22, 2015, 02:02:09 PM
they're probably cartel
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2015, 02:04:25 PM
they're probably cartel
No doubt!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2015, 02:52:16 PM
And they told them who called security too  :lol:
I usually bang on the window and look out at them, but they just flip me off, while the girls are wasted wrapping their legs around the light pole.  :frown:

Dm me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 22, 2015, 07:09:17 PM
 :fatty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: paulnyakatura on September 22, 2015, 08:05:58 PM
Heads up, this is happening. $1.03 lunch specials next 2 weeks.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 22, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
@PETE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2015, 08:47:03 PM
$1.03 to anyone who eats at all 10 places
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2015, 08:50:18 PM
Postmates - best service to come to KC since Uber.  Promo code PMIBL if you want a free $10.  They will deliver you literally anything in under an hour (had my dinner tonight in 25 minutes)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: paulnyakatura on September 22, 2015, 08:52:53 PM
I'll match and bring that total up to $2.06

$1.03 to anyone who eats at all 10 places
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2015, 09:03:13 PM
This is shaping up to blow the chipotle Kat kid challenge out of the water, and with a cash prize!  Wow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2015, 09:09:23 PM
There's another panchos? :Horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 22, 2015, 09:29:32 PM
It's a chain bro. I live near the Topeka one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2015, 09:30:18 PM
Itch manhattan has one too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2015, 09:35:38 PM
Mind blowing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 22, 2015, 09:37:09 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2015, 10:14:36 PM
It's a chain bro. I live near the Topeka one

OMG I had to google it to believe it....gross
http://www.panchosfastfood.com/locations.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Canary on September 22, 2015, 10:20:14 PM
It's a chain bro. I live near the Topeka one

OMG I had to google it to believe it....gross
http://www.panchosfastfood.com/locations.html
I had to google it as well.  I have never seen it in Topeka, but I don't get over to Topeka Blvd often. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2015, 10:24:13 PM
Panchos has made me bleed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 23, 2015, 12:23:03 AM
glad to see panchos has expanded to kansas city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 23, 2015, 12:26:40 AM
glad to see panchos has expanded to kansas city

sounds like a potential kcpak location
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 23, 2015, 12:29:41 AM
they have an elite captcha on their contact page if you'd like to leave feedback

(http://i.imgur.com/N9X7D0k.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on September 23, 2015, 09:05:50 AM
glad to see panchos has expanded to kansas city

and Wyoming!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 23, 2015, 11:32:14 AM
i am going to attempt to hit 7 out of those 10  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 23, 2015, 11:38:07 AM
i am going to attempt to hit 7 out of those 10  :surprised:

You should probably start a thread and blog that ish  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 23, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
It's a chain bro. I live near the Topeka one

ate there for lunch yesterdat   :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 23, 2015, 11:40:59 AM
i mean it's quite the world tour

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zIpa9B9DeWRk.kiUNh53um5C8&usp=sharing (https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zIpa9B9DeWRk.kiUNh53um5C8&usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 23, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
i mean it's quite the world tour

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zIpa9B9DeWRk.kiUNh53um5C8 (https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zIpa9B9DeWRk.kiUNh53um5C8)

restricted access  :cry:
I'm sure it is quite the jaunt through Lil' Mexico. Just figured it would be a optimal KC street taco BBS journey.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 23, 2015, 11:48:24 AM
fixed the link
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on September 23, 2015, 12:12:53 PM
https://vimeo.com/106281351
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on September 23, 2015, 01:05:14 PM
glad to see panchos has expanded to kansas city

and Wyoming!

 :love: :drool: :love: :drool: :love:

CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE A SWEET TASTE OF HOME (CHILE RELLENO BURRITO) ON MY NEXT VISION QUEST!!!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 23, 2015, 05:58:10 PM
https://vimeo.com/106281351
This sorta reminds me of the House of Cards intro

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2015, 08:14:42 AM
You guys! I think I found my new route to work!!! I mean, I've been struggling with this one. I work over on Mission Rd in Leawood and one would think from downtown, you would take 35, 69, and then 435 east, NOPE! That route's been averaging 35-45 minutes because of traffic. But TODAY!!, TODAY, I took 70 east from downtown and 435 south to state line and made it in 22 minutes. No traffic! :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 24, 2015, 08:18:43 AM
You guys! I think I found my new route to work!!! I mean, I've been struggling with this one. I work over on Mission Rd in Leawood and one would think from downtown, you would take 35, 69, and then 435 east, not NOPE! That route been averaging 35-45 minutes because of traffic. But TODAY!!, TODAY, I took 70 east from downtown and 435 south to state line and made it in 22 minutes. No traffic! :gocho:

 :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 24, 2015, 08:36:41 AM
You guys! I think I found my new route to work!!! I mean, I've been struggling with this one. I work over on Mission Rd in Leawood and one would think from downtown, you would take 35, 69, and then 435 east, not NOPE! That route been averaging 35-45 minutes because of traffic. But TODAY!!, TODAY, I took 70 east from downtown and 435 south to state line and made it in 22 minutes. No traffic! :gocho:

why would anyone think 35 to 69 would be the best route?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 24, 2015, 08:38:08 AM
also, this might blow your mind, but HWY 71  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on September 24, 2015, 09:01:20 AM
You guys! I think I found my new route to work!!! I mean, I've been struggling with this one. I work over on Mission Rd in Leawood and one would think from downtown, you would take 35, 69, and then 435 east, not NOPE! That route been averaging 35-45 minutes because of traffic. But TODAY!!, TODAY, I took 70 east from downtown and 435 south to state line and made it in 22 minutes. No traffic! :gocho:

why would anyone think 35 to 69 would be the best route?

No kidding, avoid that route unless it is absolutely necessary.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2015, 09:03:33 AM
You guys! I think I found my new route to work!!! I mean, I've been struggling with this one. I work over on Mission Rd in Leawood and one would think from downtown, you would take 35, 69, and then 435 east, not NOPE! That route been averaging 35-45 minutes because of traffic. But TODAY!!, TODAY, I took 70 east from downtown and 435 south to state line and made it in 22 minutes. No traffic! :gocho:

 :peek:
:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 24, 2015, 09:05:22 AM
The best route from Leawood/Mission to downtown is as follows:

Lee Blvd - Ward Parkway - Southwest Trfwy - I35. 



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 24, 2015, 09:26:56 AM
how far south on mission rd is what i want to know
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
also, this might blow your mind, but HWY 71  :horrorsurprise:

Quick glance at a map confirms this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on September 24, 2015, 09:40:56 AM
I like when they call it the oscar R. Watkins.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 09:42:10 AM
I like that too aj. Anybody know who that was?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2015, 09:53:33 AM
how far south on mission rd is what i want to know
Wherever the shopping center is. Blanc, Tavern, etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 24, 2015, 09:57:25 AM
wacky: do you know where you work?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2015, 10:00:38 AM
wacky: do you know where you work?
I've never been in this area before, until I started working here. However, I just looked it up, it's Mission Farms!  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 10:03:08 AM
I think they are saying instead of "mission Rd in Leawood", 435 and mission Rd would have been a good descriptor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 24, 2015, 10:05:12 AM
canadian guy i know lives in mission farms
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 24, 2015, 10:09:34 AM
Wacky, give me the addresses and I'll use Google Maps to tell you the best route.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on September 24, 2015, 10:16:59 AM
The best route from Leawood/Mission to downtown is as follows:

Lee Blvd - Ward Parkway - Southwest Trfwy - I35.

Would appreciate you keeping this to yourself. TIA.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 24, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
move to Leawood Wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on September 24, 2015, 11:00:41 AM
He has to get married and move to Brookside first. Then when the kids are almost in Kindergarden he can move to Leawood.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 24, 2015, 11:02:56 AM
He has to get married and move to Brookside first. Then when the kids are almost in Kindergarden he can move to Leawood.

Or plaza/downtown.  same principal though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2015, 11:22:16 AM
She works off the other side of 435 South (Kansas side). What a pickle. Plaza hopefully before brook side.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on September 24, 2015, 11:42:25 AM
Wacky, you need the WAZE app.


Back to the Subject:
KU's New Football Stadium! (Cerner Field?)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 24, 2015, 12:03:56 PM

She works off the other side of 435 South (Kansas side).

This is not a very good descriptor of an area of the KC suburbs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 12:07:59 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2015, 12:14:33 PM

She works off the other side of 435 South (Kansas side).

This is not a very good descriptor of an area of the KC suburbs.
meh. There's a 435 that runs North and South on the Kansas side and the MO side.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 12:21:11 PM
They are like 30 miles long too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 24, 2015, 12:21:53 PM
I'm imagining the last page of this thread like an snl Californians skit except you guys are all wearing overalls, chewing tobacco and riding horses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 24, 2015, 12:24:49 PM

She works off the other side of 435 South (Kansas side).

This is not a very good descriptor of an area of the KC suburbs.

Omg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 24, 2015, 12:26:14 PM
You guys! I think I found my new route to work!!! I mean, I've been struggling with this one. I work over on Mission Rd in Leawood and one would think from downtown, you would take 35, 69, and then 435 east, NOPE! That route's been averaging 35-45 minutes because of traffic. But TODAY!!, TODAY, I took 70 east from downtown and 435 south to state line and made it in 22 minutes. No traffic! :gocho:

This posts just drips with wacky brag  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2015, 12:33:19 PM
They are like 30 miles long too
Well I've told everyone on here who she works for, so I just assume everyone knows where that is. 87th st?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
A good descriptor (without giving away too much private info) would be 95th and lackman
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2015, 12:42:36 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 24, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
A good descriptor (without giving away too much private info) would be 95th and lackman

i think there's a pancho's near there too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 01:05:24 PM
Lucky ms WackyCat08
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 24, 2015, 01:43:17 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 24, 2015, 01:53:16 PM
There are 50+ in the metro depending on your arbitrary boundary. I've only been around maybe 10
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 24, 2015, 01:55:08 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

the one east of 103rd street, off of southwest trafficway, before you get to the stadium, but after the walmart (missouri side)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on September 24, 2015, 01:55:59 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

has to be 103rd and Wornall.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 24, 2015, 01:57:47 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

the one east of 103rd street, off of southwest trafficway, before you get to the stadium, but after the walmart (missouri side)

i should clarify, it's on the other side of the highway from the exit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 24, 2015, 01:59:45 PM
There are 50+ in the metro depending on your arbitrary boundary. I've only been around maybe 10

my boundary is kansas city is anything inside 435 or like 5 min away.

independence QT is not kc, but like the QT off 29 right by the airport is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 24, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

the one east of 103rd street, off of southwest trafficway, before you get to the stadium, but after the walmart (missouri side)

i should clarify, it's on the other side of the highway from the exit

the new one next to St. Joe hospital on state line. that thing is constantly packed. has taken a lot of business away from the wornall location, which I think was the point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 24, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

the one east of 103rd street, off of southwest trafficway, before you get to the stadium, but after the walmart (missouri side)

i should clarify, it's on the other side of the highway from the exit

this was my guess, but idk if it just has the highest peak hour volume since i only go there on my way to the stadium
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 02:05:55 PM
Confession: I don't know where wornall Rd is  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 24, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

31st st and SW Blvd is where the real gets real.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 24, 2015, 02:11:49 PM
Confession: I don't know where wornall Rd is  :frown:

 :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 24, 2015, 02:12:48 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

the one east of 103rd street, off of southwest trafficway, before you get to the stadium, but after the walmart (missouri side)

i should clarify, it's on the other side of the highway from the exit

this was my guess, but idk if it just has the highest peak hour volume since i only go there on my way to the stadium

i don't think we're talking about the same thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 24, 2015, 02:13:18 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

the one east of 103rd street, off of southwest trafficway, before you get to the stadium, but after the walmart (missouri side)

i should clarify, it's on the other side of the highway from the exit

this was my guess, but idk if it just has the highest peak hour volume since i only go there on my way to the stadium

i don't think we're talking about the same thing

Doesn't matter.  You're both wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 24, 2015, 02:15:41 PM
i'm just making fun of wacky's direction skills  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on September 24, 2015, 02:17:02 PM
Man, I am paying less and less attention due to other stuff and my BBS'ing is suffering.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 24, 2015, 02:20:20 PM

Confession: I don't know where wornall Rd is  :frown:

I saw a guy die in a wreck on Wornall at 435.  Ran through a red light heading north at about 90 mph, clipped the back end of a turning moving truck, flipped his car and ran in to the bridge supports.  No one else hurt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 24, 2015, 02:21:00 PM

i'm just making fun of wacky's direction skills  :frown:

Enjoyed the "east of 103rd st"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on September 24, 2015, 02:21:20 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

31st st and SW Blvd is where the real gets real.

Nailed it. This one is so real that they recognized the real needs to get realer and bulldozed that f'er for a 12 foot move of its front door to change from KS to MO. Selling 5% alchy at a gas station on the KS line is so ill. Let's be honest... across the street is a liquor store by the name of 'Don's 5% Liquor'. QT mumped that guy, Don.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 24, 2015, 02:23:06 PM
A good descriptor (without giving away too much private info) would be 95th and lackman

i think there's a pancho's near there too

By the Chick Fil A?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 24, 2015, 02:24:40 PM
that one at I35 and Lamar gets legit AF in the morning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on September 24, 2015, 02:26:34 PM
Did you guys like that video I posted?  It's called a hyperlapse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 24, 2015, 02:31:42 PM

i'm just making fun of wacky's direction skills  :frown:

Enjoyed the "east of 103rd st"

i didnt read the whole thing. one im thinking of is east on 103rd at wornall, by 435, on my way to the stadium. wow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 24, 2015, 02:33:49 PM
that one at I35 and Lamar gets legit AF in the morning

this is a busy one. busiest? idk. were trying to figure that out right now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
Never seen the 35th and Lamar one busy.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 24, 2015, 02:48:08 PM
107th & Roe is landscape company central 24/7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 24, 2015, 02:51:38 PM
OT: what do you guys think is the busiest QT in kansas city?

the one east of 103rd street, off of southwest trafficway, before you get to the stadium, but after the walmart (missouri side)

i should clarify, it's on the other side of the highway from the exit
let's really zone in on it, 435 south on the kansas side or missouri side?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on September 24, 2015, 09:06:40 PM
I dunno which is busiest but the Holmes & Blue Ridge is best with that ethanol free 91  :lick:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 24, 2015, 09:17:03 PM
I'm imagining the last page of this thread like an snl Californians skit except you guys are all wearing overalls, chewing tobacco and riding horses.

YES
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 25, 2015, 12:43:45 AM
the QT on southwest blvd just over the state line is constantly packed with the most interesting cast of characters you can imagine
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2015, 12:53:24 AM
Westport Rd. = most busy per square foot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on September 25, 2015, 09:17:57 AM
Yeah Westport rd is the worst because of how awful the gas pumps and parking lot is set up (same goes for the one on Armour in NKC). But the busiest one has to be 31st and SW Blvd. I35 and Lamar is GOAT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 25, 2015, 11:24:45 AM
107th & Roe is landscape company central 24/7

I live right by that one  :surprised:

And it pretty much is. The busiest one I've seen is the on off Wornall and 435. Or at least it's in the worst location for all the traffic around it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 25, 2015, 11:37:33 AM
https://twitter.com/rainnwilson/status/647447814943965184
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 25, 2015, 11:56:26 AM
no mention of the beautiful weather?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 25, 2015, 12:30:28 PM
i don't understand the color blind part. NOR DO I TAKE KINDLY TO IT  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 25, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
https://twitter.com/rainnwilson/status/647447814943965184

He was apparently in Topeka
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 25, 2015, 09:11:43 PM
https://twitter.com/rainnwilson/status/647447814943965184

He was apparently in Topeka

Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2015, 11:31:02 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/26/health/shigella-kansas-city-missouri/index.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WonderMeal on September 29, 2015, 10:09:36 PM
I have eight friends flying into KC on Friday afternoon before the PurpleCats vs. PurpleFrogs game on 10/10. These adopted 'Cat fans live all over the country and range in age from late 20s to early 30s.

We've got ~6 hours (4:30-10:30) in KC before heading to Manhattan. If you were hosting 8 bros who like to eat bbq and drink alcoholic beverages, where would you go and what would you do?

Only medium-high or high suggestos, plz. TIA.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 29, 2015, 10:12:12 PM
I have eight friends flying into KC on Friday afternoon before the PurpleCats vs. PurpleFrogs game on 10/10. These adopted 'Cat fans live all over the country and range in age from late 20s to early 30s.

We've got ~6 hours (4:30-10:30) in KC before heading to Manhattan. If you were hosting 8 bros who like to eat bbq and drink alcoholic beverages, where would you go and what would you do?

Only medium-high or high suggestos, plz. TIA.

uh, maybe watch game 2 of the alds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WonderMeal on September 29, 2015, 10:15:04 PM
I have eight friends flying into KC on Friday afternoon before the PurpleCats vs. PurpleFrogs game on 10/10. These adopted 'Cat fans live all over the country and range in age from late 20s to early 30s.

We've got ~6 hours (4:30-10:30) in KC before heading to Manhattan. If you were hosting 8 bros who like to eat bbq and drink alcoholic beverages, where would you go and what would you do?

Only medium-high or high suggestos, plz. TIA.

uh, maybe watch game 2 of the alds

This is an interesting idea. Where would be a good spot to watch the game? Sorry, I'm not a "KC guy."

If I walk around KC with a gallon of premium milk, what are the odds I'll get 'clams to come hang with us?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 29, 2015, 10:16:30 PM
I have eight friends flying into KC on Friday afternoon before the PurpleCats vs. PurpleFrogs game on 10/10. These adopted 'Cat fans live all over the country and range in age from late 20s to early 30s.

We've got ~6 hours (4:30-10:30) in KC before heading to Manhattan. If you were hosting 8 bros who like to eat bbq and drink alcoholic beverages, where would you go and what would you do?

Only medium-high or high suggestos, plz. TIA.

uh, maybe watch game 2 of the alds

This is an interesting idea. Where would be a good spot to watch the game? Sorry, I'm not a "KC guy."

If I walk around KC with a gallon of premium milk, what are the odds I'll get 'clams to come hang with us?

Falloon on the plaza actually is a pretty good spot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 29, 2015, 10:17:36 PM
well, if you've got milk, those chances would be pretty good.

of course everyone knows my recommendo would be q39 for bbq ---> gran falloon for alds/boozin
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 29, 2015, 10:21:37 PM
I have eight friends flying into KC on Friday afternoon before the PurpleCats vs. PurpleFrogs game on 10/10. These adopted 'Cat fans live all over the country and range in age from late 20s to early 30s.

We've got ~6 hours (4:30-10:30) in KC before heading to Manhattan. If you were hosting 8 bros who like to eat bbq and drink alcoholic beverages, where would you go and what would you do?

Only medium-high or high suggestos, plz. TIA.
Maybe go to a brewery that is owned by a KC cat. I dunno, just tossin it out there.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 29, 2015, 10:27:54 PM
better hope 42 is not around. re: gallon of milk.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 30, 2015, 07:43:22 AM
I have eight friends flying into KC on Friday afternoon before the PurpleCats vs. PurpleFrogs game on 10/10. These adopted 'Cat fans live all over the country and range in age from late 20s to early 30s.

We've got ~6 hours (4:30-10:30) in KC before heading to Manhattan. If you were hosting 8 bros who like to eat bbq and drink alcoholic beverages, where would you go and what would you do?

Only medium-high or high suggestos, plz. TIA.

Whatever you do, don't go to LC's BBQ. They don't have room for your whole party and it would take forever, plus the bbq is not that great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 30, 2015, 07:58:31 AM
Char bar or q39 you could do both... Or doubleshift and Jack stack.... Kcfd do you allow outside food?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 30, 2015, 08:54:34 AM
Yup, go booze it up at the two EMAW owned and operated breweries, Doubleshift and Border, in the crossroads. They both allow outside food, from what I can recall. They are both great places to watch a Royals' game.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 30, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks boozing it up in KC and then driving to Manhattan at 10:30 pm is a bad idea?  :dunno: Maybe just stay the night and get rocked, then stay at a hotel and then drive in. I would think with 8 guys, this would be fairly cheap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 08:57:37 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks boozing it up in KC and then driving to Manhattan at 10:30 pm is a bad idea?  :dunno: Maybe just stay the night and get rocked, then stay at a hotel and then drive in. I would think with 8 guys, this would be fairly cheap.

yes you are the only one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 30, 2015, 09:18:16 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks boozing it up in KC and then driving to Manhattan at 10:30 pm is a bad idea?  :dunno: Maybe just stay the night and get rocked, then stay at a hotel and then drive in. I would think with 8 guys, this would be fairly cheap.

yes you are the only one

and rehabilitated drunk drivers who have obviously learned their lesson.
I love these remarks. For the record, Tonya has never had a few drinks and gotten behind a wheel. NEVER! rough ridin' saint right here in the flesh.



why would i do that? i could kill someone being irresponsible like that.
Oh man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 30, 2015, 09:39:36 AM
who said anything about drunk driving, wacky?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 30, 2015, 09:40:43 AM
i wonder if they're taking nine separate cars to mhk?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 09:41:50 AM
i wonder if they're taking nine separate cars to mhk?

seems irresponsible to me. i would just have a DD (designated driver) take people to mhk. what would you do, tobias?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 30, 2015, 09:42:44 AM
that's probably what I would do too, now that I think about it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 30, 2015, 09:44:32 AM
Way to bail Tonya out, Tobias. I'm sure one out of the 9 (who haven't seen each other for awhile), will elect not to drink a sip. You're right, I guarantee it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 09:47:13 AM
Way to bail Tonya out, Tobias. I'm sure one out of the 9 (who haven't seen each other for awhile), will elect not to drink a sip. You're right, I guarantee it.

yes, thank you tobias for pointing out the idea of a designated driver. this is going to change my life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 30, 2015, 09:48:27 AM
Way to bail Tonya out, Tobias. I'm sure one out of the 9 (who haven't seen each other for awhile), will elect not to drink a sip. You're right, I guarantee it.

yes, thank you tobias for pointing out the idea of a designated driver. this is going to change my life.
You're an idiot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 30, 2015, 09:50:01 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 30, 2015, 09:50:48 AM
Way to bail Tonya out, Tobias. I'm sure one out of the 9 (who haven't seen each other for awhile), will elect not to drink a sip. You're right, I guarantee it.

There's a pretty good chance that one out of 9 guys has decided not to drink heavily in his adult life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on September 30, 2015, 09:52:25 AM
I would NOT be the one out of the nine. High five everyone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 30, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
gE won't last another five years because all of our members keep dying on the way home from #schemePAKs :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 30, 2015, 10:04:26 AM
gE won't last another five years because all of our members keep dying on the way home from #schemePAKs :frown:
Tonya is pompous. I'm sure you guys have a good time, have a few drinks and drive home safely. I just find it funny, that he's like: "Nope, you're the only one who might be concerned for them, DUH!" with his holier than all act.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 10:09:12 AM
wacky, do you have a few minutes to talk about jesus christ our lord and savior? PM if interested.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 30, 2015, 10:16:24 AM
wacky, do you have a few minutes to talk about jesus christ our lord and savior? PM if interested.
Hey man, i'm not the one here who's claiming "I've never had a drink and gotten behind the wheel!". It's nothing to be proud of, but you're also full of crap when you say it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 10:20:25 AM
wacky, do you have a few minutes to talk about jesus christ our lord and savior? PM if interested.
Hey man, i'm not the one here who's claiming "I've never had a drink and gotten behind the wheel!". It's nothing to be proud of, but you're also full of crap when you say it.

i certainly would not be proud of that. it would be irresponsible to drink and drive, i could kill someone. if me and my bros were going to be heading to manhattan and i was hosting them i would stay sober so i could drive my guests. seems like the right thing to do!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2015, 11:48:08 AM
This "drama" is stupid and disappointing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
the last page of this thread is so wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 01:04:23 PM
the last page of this thread is so wacky

guy wont leave me alone. hes obsessed with catching me drunk driving (even tho ive told him its against the law and i dont do that)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
the last page of this thread is so wacky

guy wont leave me alone. hes obsessed with catching me drunk driving (even tho ive told him its against the law and i dont do that)

I can recall at least 2 times we've been at the bar together drinking, and both times you've tossed your keys to the bartender early in the evening.  Probably been more times now that I think about it, but I've always admired you for that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 01:37:38 PM
the last page of this thread is so wacky

guy wont leave me alone. hes obsessed with catching me drunk driving (even tho ive told him its against the law and i dont do that)

I can recall at least 2 times we've been at the bar together drinking, and both times you've tossed your keys to the bartender early in the evening.  Probably been more times now that I think about it, but I've always admired you for that.

i dont just toss him to the bartender, tho. what do i always tell the bartender about my 5 series?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2015, 02:06:47 PM
the last page of this thread is so wacky

guy wont leave me alone. hes obsessed with catching me drunk driving (even tho ive told him its against the law and i dont do that)

I can recall at least 2 times we've been at the bar together drinking, and both times you've tossed your keys to the bartender early in the evening.  Probably been more times now that I think about it, but I've always admired you for that.

i dont just toss him to the bartender, tho. what do i always tell the bartender about my 5 series?

"keep my little girl safe tonight, daddy has to work late"  we all laugh every time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 03:15:12 PM
the last page of this thread is so wacky

guy wont leave me alone. hes obsessed with catching me drunk driving (even tho ive told him its against the law and i dont do that)

I can recall at least 2 times we've been at the bar together drinking, and both times you've tossed your keys to the bartender early in the evening.  Probably been more times now that I think about it, but I've always admired you for that.

i dont just toss him to the bartender, tho. what do i always tell the bartender about my 5 series?

"keep my little girl safe tonight, daddy has to work late"  we all laugh every time

 :lol: i know. real knee slapper.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on September 30, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Yup, go booze it up at the two EMAW owned and operated breweries, Doubleshift and Border, in the crossroads. They both allow outside food, from what I can recall. They are both great places to watch a Royals' game.

I'm grabbing Q39 to go before my next Doubleshift trip.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 30, 2015, 04:34:51 PM
Char bar or q39 you could do both... Or doubleshift and Jack stack.... Kcfd do you allow outside food?
Of course!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 30, 2015, 05:26:32 PM
Yup, go booze it up at the two EMAW owned and operated breweries, Doubleshift and Border, in the crossroads. They both allow outside food, from what I can recall. They are both great places to watch a Royals' game.

I'm grabbing Q39 to go before my next Doubleshift trip.

what hotel are you staying at?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WonderMeal on September 30, 2015, 09:10:10 PM
Way to bail Tonya out, Tobias. I'm sure one out of the 9 (who haven't seen each other for awhile), will elect not to drink a sip. You're right, I guarantee it.

Actually, I canco that one of the nine will not be drinking even one teeny tiny drop. He never does. Not ever-y-one is addicted to booze like you D.Scott the entire town of Lawrence.  :cheers:

Despite the weird turn this thread took (why is Wacky obsessed with Tonya?), these are all great suggestos. Although I'm not sure we've reached a consensus on "the bbq joint you should def take out of town buds to besides Joe's (gas station)." Can I get some more feedback on that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on September 30, 2015, 09:11:10 PM
Zarda
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 30, 2015, 09:33:09 PM
wacky and tonya are obsessed with each other.

jack stack & gates & q39 are the only other good ones outside of joe's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2015, 10:19:21 PM
Gates is awful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 30, 2015, 10:31:20 PM
i would say averages say that 2/3 is right  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2015, 10:32:59 PM
i like jackstack and joes, but i haven't had any of the new highfalutin places like q39
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 30, 2015, 10:39:29 PM
your palate is not the sought after one ever, so i dont think your opinion matters much, if at all  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2015, 10:40:01 PM
it's actually quite refined
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 30, 2015, 10:41:14 PM
if we ever have a 'simple mac and cheese' thread it will be perfect
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2015, 10:44:18 PM
#zapped
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 30, 2015, 10:45:01 PM
#TheTruth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 01, 2015, 07:19:40 AM
Way to bail Tonya out, Tobias. I'm sure one out of the 9 (who haven't seen each other for awhile), will elect not to drink a sip. You're right, I guarantee it.

Actually, I canco that one of the nine will not be drinking even one teeny tiny drop. He never does. Not ever-y-one is addicted to booze like you D.Scott the entire town of Lawrence.  :cheers:

Despite the weird turn this thread took (why is Wacky obsessed with Tonya?), these are all great suggestos. Although I'm not sure we've reached a consensus on "the bbq joint you should def take out of town buds to besides Joe's (gas station)." Can I get some more feedback on that?

Jack stack freight house
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 01, 2015, 07:20:41 AM
It's meant for 8 out of town bros
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 01, 2015, 08:24:16 AM

Way to bail Tonya out, Tobias. I'm sure one out of the 9 (who haven't seen each other for awhile), will elect not to drink a sip. You're right, I guarantee it.

Actually, I canco that one of the nine will not be drinking even one teeny tiny drop. He never does. Not ever-y-one is addicted to booze like you D.Scott the entire town of Lawrence.  :cheers:

Despite the weird turn this thread took (why is Wacky obsessed with Tonya?), these are all great suggestos. Although I'm not sure we've reached a consensus on "the bbq joint you should def take out of town buds to besides Joe's (gas station)." Can I get some more feedback on that?

Is this guy really trying to start the KC barbecue place argument that has taken over 16 different threads on this blog for days at a time?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 01, 2015, 08:27:53 AM
Way to bail Tonya out, Tobias. I'm sure one out of the 9 (who haven't seen each other for awhile), will elect not to drink a sip. You're right, I guarantee it.

Actually, I canco that one of the nine will not be drinking even one teeny tiny drop. He never does. Not ever-y-one is addicted to booze like you D.Scott the entire town of Lawrence.  :cheers:

Despite the weird turn this thread took (why is Wacky obsessed with Tonya?), these are all great suggestos. Although I'm not sure we've reached a consensus on "the bbq joint you should def take out of town buds to besides Joe's (gas station)." Can I get some more feedback on that?

that sounds lovely, wondermeal. every friend group needs a responsible guy. cant imagine just hanging out with nothing but booze hounds 24/7 and believing that everyone drinks themselves into a stupor every time they hit up a bar. what a sad outlook on life that would be.

the jack stack freight house is a good option for that many people. you should be able to get in no problem and youll be close enough to the action/I-70 for your drive home.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on October 01, 2015, 08:32:00 AM
if we ever have a 'simple mac and cheese' thread it will be perfect
Aggie Station mac-n-cheese is pretty good. Guy in the kitchen is a HUGE piece of crap tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on October 01, 2015, 08:49:21 AM
Yup, go booze it up at the two EMAW owned and operated breweries, Doubleshift and Border, in the crossroads. They both allow outside food, from what I can recall. They are both great places to watch a Royals' game.

I'm grabbing Q39 to go before my next Doubleshift trip.

what hotel are you staying at?

Casa de Abe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 07, 2015, 11:25:10 AM
http://www.kmbc.com/news/driver-fleeing-police-jumps-off-broadway-bridge/35701986?src=app

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 07, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
whoa
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 12, 2015, 10:51:13 PM
fire dept.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on October 13, 2015, 08:26:10 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 13, 2015, 12:34:24 PM
Sad times guys.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on October 13, 2015, 12:41:37 PM

Sad times guys.

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sorry friend. That sucks.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 14, 2015, 11:57:07 AM
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/best-of-kansas-city-2015/BestOf?oid=6294922 (http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/best-of-kansas-city-2015/BestOf?oid=6294922)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 14, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
that is the 3rd grade soccer team banquet of awards.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2015, 03:48:51 PM
i hate the pitch and their non stop charlie hustle t-shirt wearing faces
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2015, 10:33:11 AM
so it would be ok to murder this loser from Wichita that is going to ruin the Hyatt deal right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 19, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
so it would be ok to murder this loser from Wichita that is going to ruin the Hyatt deal right?

Link?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on October 19, 2015, 11:19:50 AM
my wife ran the half this weekend.  It was crazy seeing those Kenyan runners blazing through the finish of the full.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2015, 11:31:11 AM
so it would be ok to murder this loser from Wichita that is going to ruin the Hyatt deal right?

Link?

http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article39349803.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article39349803.html)

it makes me foam at the mouth to read what this moron has to say

http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article38863875.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article38863875.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on October 19, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
People that are going to be dead in less than 5 years shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on things that are intended to raise the quality of life for the next 30
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
so it would be ok to murder this loser from Wichita that is going to ruin the Hyatt deal right?

Link?

http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article39349803.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article39349803.html)

it makes me foam at the mouth to read what this moron has to say

http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article38863875.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article38863875.html)

what specific part of coffey's message do you take issue with?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2015, 12:34:51 PM
the part where he thinks it is reasonable to not want any public funds used for the hyatt, and by a loophole* may force the issue to be voted on, which would delay it enough to possibly not happen. the vote would overwhelmingly be in favor of the hotel, but by then it might not matter. i mean there were already several conventions that booked KC once the hotel was announced. how much tax revenue would be generated from 800 rooms? and it is not stealing rooms from other hotels. it is providing new rooms for conventions that would not be in KC otherwise. i don't know, i don't get it. This guy is just anti-everything. i understand being anti-new airport, and even maybe being anti-streetcar (though i disagree). but this one seems like a slam dunk to me.

* i say loophole because the number of signatures or whatever required on the petition is based not on the population of the city, but by the number of people who voted in the last mayoral election. obviously everyone loves Sly and he had no opposition in the last election, so the turnout was like 18,000 people or something like that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 19, 2015, 12:38:18 PM
OT: holy crap the one light sign is ugly AF and they shouldnt have put it up. eff them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2015, 12:45:47 PM
i guess the main thing is, it is completely standard practice for tax abatements and such, and the $50 mil over 25 years would be more than made up for iyam. the project cost is $300m.

i mean ffs, olathe is giving $19.6m for an embassy suites (total cost = $51m)
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/03/31/olathe-hotel-and-conference-center.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/03/31/olathe-hotel-and-conference-center.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2015, 01:04:34 PM
rules are rules, they aren't loopholes
sly james and the city council prefer to shove their agenda down their constituents throats (streetcar, airport, hotel) without voter input.  i enjoy watching him get his hand slapped, he will learn sooner or later what politicking really means.

if this hotel is such a good deal for both the city and the developers from NY, it will be built.  it's not like there aren't people out there standing in line waiting to skim public assistance from city governments with massive little brother complexes. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 19, 2015, 03:34:49 PM
rules are rules, they aren't loopholes
sly james and the city council prefer to shove their agenda down their constituents throats (streetcar, airport, hotel) without voter input.  i enjoy watching him get his hand slapped, he will learn sooner or later what politicking really means.

if this hotel is such a good deal for both the city and the developers from NY, it will be built.  it's not like there aren't people out there standing in line waiting to skim public assistance from city governments with massive little brother complexes.

haha, what? 

the airport and streetcar financing have nothing to do with the hotel financing.   The streetcar is financed by a tax district that was approved by public vote.  in fact, downtown voters voted twice, first to set up the tax district, and second to approve the exact tax/assessment.  so, unless james is out there stuffing the ballot box (twice) then nothing about the streetcar has been forced down anybody's throat.  The TDD is perfectly legal.  you'll recall that a similar measure was presented to mid-town and plaza residents and they overwhelmingly rejected an expansion of the TDD, so the streetcar won't be expanded beyond downtown.  this is how votes work.           

The airport plan hasn't even been finalized.  but funding for the project will be subject to a public vote. 

The hotel involves the City Council unanimously voting 13-0 to offer tax incentives without public vote (the opposite of the streetcar and airport). 

City's offer TIF all the time without public votes.  ps, the project does not require new citywide taxes nor city guarantee of the public debt. 


 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2015, 04:55:02 PM
rules are rules, they aren't loopholes
sly james and the city council prefer to shove their agenda down their constituents throats (streetcar, airport, hotel) without voter input.  i enjoy watching him get his hand slapped, he will learn sooner or later what politicking really means.

if this hotel is such a good deal for both the city and the developers from NY, it will be built.  it's not like there aren't people out there standing in line waiting to skim public assistance from city governments with massive little brother complexes.

haha, what? 

the airport and streetcar financing have nothing to do with the hotel financing.   The streetcar is financed by a tax district that was approved by public vote.  in fact, downtown voters voted twice, first to set up the tax district, and second to approve the exact tax/assessment.  so, unless james is out there stuffing the ballot box (twice) then nothing about the streetcar has been forced down anybody's throat.  The TDD is perfectly legal.  you'll recall that a similar measure was presented to mid-town and plaza residents and they overwhelmingly rejected an expansion of the TDD, so the streetcar won't be expanded beyond downtown.  this is how votes work.           

The airport plan hasn't even been finalized.  but funding for the project will be subject to a public vote. 

The hotel involves the City Council unanimously voting 13-0 to offer tax incentives without public vote (the opposite of the streetcar and airport). 

City's offer TIF all the time without public votes.  ps, the project does not require new citywide taxes nor city guarantee of the public debt. 
 

your rambling post is difficult to respond to but essentially you reaffirmed my point that sly james ignores the will of the people and continually assumes he knows more than his constituency. he did it with the streetcar, he's done it as much as possible with the airport, and he's now trying to do it with the hotel.

our general election results have consistently reaffirmed that KC does not support the streetcar initiative.
so, as i said, sly decided to ignore the vote, continue to push his agenda, and went the route of a new vote by creating the "transportation district" knowing he could get it passed by limiting the vote to the few hundred residents who would benefit most from the toy train.

as it relates to this hotel, the voters in kcmo have put in place the petition clause and have executed the petition. sly, in his infinite wisdom, is doing everything he can to find a way to ignore his voters once again and push through the hotel despite the objectors having the required number of signatures to push the decision to use public funds to underwrite hotel costs to a general election.

trust me when i say that i don't need you lecture me about TIF funding procedures or any public financing of capital projects.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on October 19, 2015, 05:11:39 PM
 :bwpopcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2015, 05:14:23 PM
everybody wants the hotel except for 75 year old wichita tuck and pissclams, smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 19, 2015, 05:24:15 PM

your rambling post is difficult to respond to

let me slow er down for you.  the funding for the airport and streetcar (public votes) is entirely different than the convention hotel (City Council approved TIF). 

So in conclusion, your statement "prefer to shove their agenda down their constituents throats (streetcar, airport, hotel) without voter input," is equal parts baseless and Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).   

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on October 19, 2015, 05:50:10 PM
I think the hotel would probably be worth the skyline improvement alone but Kansas City's relentless pursuit of conventions and trade shows is really small time. The money and effort would be better served trying to improve the business environment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
everybody wants the hotel except for 75 year old wichita tuck and pissclams, smdh
i'm pro-hotel aside from Hyatt owning all catering rights down there, i just think that since the petition has met the requirements set forth that our city government needs to act within accordance of its own laws
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 07:09:33 PM
I think the hotel would probably be worth the skyline improvement alone but Kansas City's relentless pursuit of conventions and trade shows is really small time. The money and effort would be better served trying to improve the business environment.

This. Nothing is more overblown than the effects of conventions and other similar event on local economies. Most profits are going to airlines, rental car companies, chain restaurants and nationally owned hotels.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
Well eff, none of that stuff is taxed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 11:12:50 PM
I'm sure the FFA, La Rasa and insurance commissioner conventions will pay that $50 million, 3 cents at a time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2015, 11:26:29 PM
Sounds like you have no clue what the tax and fees in kcmo are for the things you listed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 11:31:01 PM
You said," none of that stuff is taxed.". Were you arguing that sales tax from conferences and conventions would benefit the city, or were you counting tourism fees from car rentals and downtown hotel rooms?  Also, what do you expect the increased convention room, car rental and other discretionary fees to be after this albatross is approved?
I'll listen off air.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2015, 11:35:08 PM
Mocat, add another idiot to your list
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 11:37:05 PM
Yep, I'd PI too if I lost an argument that easily.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on October 19, 2015, 11:39:36 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2015, 11:40:04 PM
You listed 4 things convention goers would spend money on and then tried to play it off like the city wouldn't get anything from it. You are a moron
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 11:45:28 PM
The point I made is that those businesses most benefitting from conventions aren't local. If anything, they're employing minimum wage ton $9 an hour employees, largely, and sending most profits out of town. I'll draw a picture for you next time to make it simpler.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2015, 11:47:50 PM
People working in kcmo aren't local, more gems from this moron
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 11:50:49 PM
So here's lb 7's game plan:
1. hand over $50 million in cash to developer/out of town chain.
2. Wait for ffa, la raza, Christian rock convention bonanzas for 25-30 years.j\
3. Applaud national chains McDonald's, hertz, and caterers for employing high school dropouts.

Instant profit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 11:55:43 PM
KC star headline:

SLY: Low wage earners fly

Mayor credits downtown revitalization to millennials, starving artists who work part time at hotel/caterer and plunge millions into economy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2015, 11:58:29 PM
I don't care what happens, I'm just pointing out that you're a moron, but you've done a better job than I have at making you look like a moron, so at least you can feel good about that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
Great argument.
Lib 7's plan to win a debate:
"MORON"

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 06:39:17 AM
Scribe, buddy. Have you ever stayed in a hotel before?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 07:38:20 AM
This should be fantastic. I'll play along.

Yes mocat, I have
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 07:45:32 AM
scribe, have you ever eaten at a restaurant before?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 07:47:15 AM
Get to your point mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 07:49:08 AM
I'm sure the FFA, La Rasa and insurance commissioner conventions will pay that $50 million, 3 cents at a time.

this is the post where it went south for you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 07:50:27 AM
like, where is the 3 cents coming from? and why does the convention pay 3 cents?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
I should have said "convention goers,". Thanks for setting me straight. Lib 7 is fortunate to have a friend who can formulate sentences.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 07:56:13 AM
I should have said "convention goers,". Thanks for setting me straight. Lib 7 is fortunate to have a friend who can formulate sentences.

where is the 3 cents coming from?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 07:57:04 AM
So here's lb 7's game plan:
1. hand over $50 million in cash to developer/out of town chain.
2. Wait for ffa, la raza, Christian rock convention bonanzas for 25-30 years.j\
3. Applaud national chains McDonald's, hertz, and caterers for employing high school dropouts.

Instant profit

1-it's not $50m in cash
2-you can pooh pooh the conventions all you want
3-wut in the world?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 07:58:36 AM
I should have said "convention goers,". Thanks for setting me straight. Lib 7 is fortunate to have a friend who can formulate sentences.

where is the 3 cents coming from?

Is this a Tax increment financing deal that relies on sales tax increases to fund the project?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 08:01:16 AM
not what i'm asking. you said "3 cents at a time"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 08:02:37 AM
@pissclams this is more articulate than i am

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article38401968.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article38401968.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 20, 2015, 08:03:46 AM
i guess the main thing is, it is completely standard practice for tax abatements and such, and the $50 mil over 25 years would be more than made up for iyam. the project cost is $300m.

i mean ffs, olathe is giving $19.6m for an embassy suites (total cost = $51m)
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/03/31/olathe-hotel-and-conference-center.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/03/31/olathe-hotel-and-conference-center.html)
That Olathe deal is insane.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 20, 2015, 08:13:38 AM
Also, the convention business is weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2015, 08:22:08 AM
@pissclams this is more articulate than i am

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article38401968.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article38401968.html)

i get all this.
nothing that steve rose (jerkstore) said is news.
but the bottom line to me is that you can't just ignore the city charter because of threats made by the developers of the proposed hotel.
it ends there.
it began by sly not being inclusive in the planning of this thing. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 20, 2015, 08:25:29 AM
everybody wants the hotel except for 75 year old wichita tuck and pissclams, smdh

That guy hasn't lived in Wichita for 27 years so please stop associating him with Wichita.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 08:40:41 AM
not what i'm asking. you said "3 cents at a time"

How are the dollars used on the project expected to be repaid?  Is it rental car and hotel room fees?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on October 20, 2015, 08:46:19 AM
Guys we need to do everything to keep the Brony convention in town. It's totally worth the tax $'s to get to laugh at those weirdos once a year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 09:25:40 AM
not what i'm asking. you said "3 cents at a time"

How are the dollars used on the project expected to be repaid?  Is it rental car and hotel room fees?

why can't you just tell me where you got 3 cents?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2015, 09:45:38 AM
Sorry I missed all this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 10:25:47 AM
Sorry I missed all this.
Really bummed. What an incredible exchange.

BTW, scribe, yes that's how taxes work. People buy things like food, rental cars etc. And the city gets money from taxes!   Incredible idea really.

Not sure if you expect only local companies to be involved here, but that's not how the world works. Like, do you want a small local company to build a massive hotel the city needs? Or have some rule that convention goers can only eat at local restaurants?

Still not sure what your comment about McDonald's employing high school dropouts means, would you rather them be unemployed?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 11:12:10 AM
Sorry I missed all this.
Really bummed. What an incredible exchange.

BTW, scribe, yes that's how taxes work. People buy things like food, rental cars etc. And the city gets money from taxes!   Incredible idea really.

Not sure if you expect only local companies to be involved here, but that's not how the world works. Like, do you want a small local company to build a massive hotel the city needs? Or have some rule that convention goers can only eat at local restaurants?

Still not sure what your comment about McDonald's employing high school dropouts means, would you rather them be unemployed?

is it true that if a large convention (like Cerner's 14,000 people one) comes to KC, the convention is required to give the city $0.03, but other than that, all the money spent and taxes tallied up go to large corporations?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 11:13:22 AM
Sorry I missed all this.
Really bummed. What an incredible exchange.

BTW, scribe, yes that's how taxes work. People buy things like food, rental cars etc. And the city gets money from taxes!   Incredible idea really.

Not sure if you expect only local companies to be involved here, but that's not how the world works. Like, do you want a small local company to build a massive hotel the city needs? Or have some rule that convention goers can only eat at local restaurants?

Still not sure what your comment about McDonald's employing high school dropouts means, would you rather them be unemployed?

is it true that if a large convention (like Cerner's 14,000 people one) comes to KC, the convention is required to give the city $0.03, but other than that, all the money spent and taxes tallied up go to large corporations?
That seems to check out. Conventions only exist to serve "big fast food" sad, really.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on October 20, 2015, 11:14:25 AM
KCFD, I sure hope you bought all of your supplies and vats and equipment from local manufacturers when you built out your brewery! Otherwise, you are providing no benefit to KC.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2015, 11:23:10 AM
Sorry I missed all this.
Really bummed. What an incredible exchange.

BTW, scribe, yes that's how taxes work. People buy things like food, rental cars etc. And the city gets money from taxes!   Incredible idea really.

Not sure if you expect only local companies to be involved here, but that's not how the world works. Like, do you want a small local company to build a massive hotel the city needs? Or have some rule that convention goers can only eat at local restaurants?

Still not sure what your comment about McDonald's employing high school dropouts means, would you rather them be unemployed?

is it true that if a large convention (like Cerner's 14,000 people one) comes to KC, the convention is required to give the city $0.03, but other than that, all the money spent and taxes tallied up go to large corporations?

Lol what? How many pages back was this claimed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 20, 2015, 11:24:29 AM

it began by sly not being inclusive in the planning of this thing.

how would you propose the mayor be more inclusive in a situation like this? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 11:27:39 AM
Sorry I missed all this.
Really bummed. What an incredible exchange.

BTW, scribe, yes that's how taxes work. People buy things like food, rental cars etc. And the city gets money from taxes!   Incredible idea really.

Not sure if you expect only local companies to be involved here, but that's not how the world works. Like, do you want a small local company to build a massive hotel the city needs? Or have some rule that convention goers can only eat at local restaurants?

Still not sure what your comment about McDonald's employing high school dropouts means, would you rather them be unemployed?

is it true that if a large convention (like Cerner's 14,000 people one) comes to KC, the convention is required to give the city $0.03, but other than that, all the money spent and taxes tallied up go to large corporations?

Lol what? How many pages back was this claimed.

I'm sure the FFA, La Rasa and insurance commissioner conventions will pay that $50 million, 3 cents at a time.

i have asked wichitascribe where the $0.03 came from repeatedly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 11:34:29 AM
KCFD, I sure hope you bought all of your supplies and vats and equipment from local manufacturers when you built out your brewery! Otherwise, you are providing no benefit to KC.


Gonna win 'em all!
Guess I'm no good for kc then. I'll just close up shop, fire all of my employees, let the building we renovated go back to being vacant. Clearly my business provides no benefit to anyone.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2015, 11:48:22 AM
Maybe a local HVAC guy?  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 11:48:53 AM
Maybe a local HVAC guy?  :ROFL:
Does north KC count???

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on October 20, 2015, 12:14:38 PM
KCFD, I sure hope you bought all of your supplies and vats and equipment from local manufacturers when you built out your brewery! Otherwise, you are providing no benefit to KC.


Gonna win 'em all!
Guess I'm no good for kc then. I'll just close up shop, fire all of my employees, let the building we renovated go back to being vacant. Clearly my business provides no benefit to anyone.

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Sorry man, that's the way the cookie crumbles.


Actually...
Hey man, how is it going? Hitting your daily and weekly goals for sales? Haven't been back to KC since you opened, but when I do, I will stop by.

Also,
on a sad note, I was curious if you were close with either of the two firefighters? That was a very horrible incident. Prayers to their families and friends.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 12:19:30 PM
Things are going well. About 50% above projections at this point. We'll see how it holds up over the winter, I'm guessing we'll slow down significantly. The hardest part right now is keeping fully staffed. Part time workers, man.

I did not know them personally, but a friend of mine knew one, used to work with him.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2015, 12:25:14 PM

it began by sly not being inclusive in the planning of this thing.

how would you propose the mayor be more inclusive in a situation like this? 
i agreed that he did and will continue to do everything perfectly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 12:27:03 PM
Sorry I missed all this.
Really bummed. What an incredible exchange.

BTW, scribe, yes that's how taxes work. People buy things like food, rental cars etc. And the city gets money from taxes!   Incredible idea really.

Not sure if you expect only local companies to be involved here, but that's not how the world works. Like, do you want a small local company to build a massive hotel the city needs? Or have some rule that convention goers can only eat at local restaurants?

Still not sure what your comment about McDonald's employing high school dropouts means, would you rather them be unemployed?

Let me be very clear here: If the way you generate increased taxes is by giving tax money or tourism funds to large companies, you better ensure it will increase the tax revenue by more than the amount you have handed over.

If Budweiser launched a microbrewery brand to go head to head with local smaller breweries, wouldn't you be upset if Kansas City handed them $20 million to start with?  If money is to be made and the economy is to be helped by a businesses' building or expansion, why is government help needed?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on October 20, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
Anybody know the Global Prairie guy that is in a coma?
Sad. What a great dude.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 12:43:29 PM
Sorry I missed all this.
Really bummed. What an incredible exchange.

BTW, scribe, yes that's how taxes work. People buy things like food, rental cars etc. And the city gets money from taxes!   Incredible idea really.

Not sure if you expect only local companies to be involved here, but that's not how the world works. Like, do you want a small local company to build a massive hotel the city needs? Or have some rule that convention goers can only eat at local restaurants?

Still not sure what your comment about McDonald's employing high school dropouts means, would you rather them be unemployed?

Let me be very clear here: If the way you generate increased taxes is by giving tax money or tourism funds to large companies, you better ensure it will increase the tax revenue by more than the amount you have handed over.

If Budweiser launched a microbrewery brand to go head to head with local smaller breweries, wouldn't you be upset if Kansas City handed them $20 million to start with?  If money is to be made and the economy is to be helped by a businesses' building or expansion, why is government help needed?
Do you really think the city would have agreed to a deal without doing due diligence on how much $ would be raised from tax revenue?  Obviously I don't know the numbers, but I have faith the city leaders wouldn't enter into a clearly losing proposition.

About the budweiser thing, that's not quite how it works.... What business is this hotel threatening directly? Like is there another hotel that's going to go out of business? Is there a small local brand that it will be hurting? Nope. Your comparison makes no sense. And for the record, budweiser buys a brewery every 5 days. You really think that company has never gotten a tax break from St Louis? What a joke.
If this is your argument why are you not upset about hotel Philips selling? A local brand, now owned by a national chain?! you have every right to not want the hotel, but don't make up stupid crap to defend yourself.

Tax breaks are there to lure companies in order make the city money. That's how it  works. Look at the border war between joco and kc.

If you don't think every small business owner in the downtown area is rough ridin' excited about this hotel you're wrong. I can promise you that because I am a small business owner in the downtown area. The potential of having 800+ more people within 3/4 of a mile of me?  eff Yeah. It helps the city in more way than one, man. The same goes for the streetcar, minus a select group people that are still blind to its' benefits.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 20, 2015, 12:49:33 PM

it began by sly not being inclusive in the planning of this thing.

how would you propose the mayor be more inclusive in a situation like this? 
i agreed that he did and will continue to do everything perfectly

just curious, that's all.  you don't have to answer if you don't want to. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 12:52:45 PM
KCFDcat!  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 12:57:48 PM
It's touching how you have come to the defense of your passionate, but feeble minded friend. Next time he wants to have you argue on his behalf just have him send out a signal or something.

I also find your faith in local government inspiring. Of course receiving government paychecks likely colors your objectivity.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on October 20, 2015, 01:00:44 PM
Seneca, KS. Population no Wal-Mart, no Dairy Queen, no Pizza Hutt, and no Sonic because of people like scribe. They will put all of the local businesses out of business! What good will they do for the economy of Seneca?!!?!

Well, local people drive to Hiawatha, Marysville, Holton, and even Sabetha (I am sorry but those 4 towns are really crappy!) to support those big corporations. No tax revenue for Seneca, no jobs for Seneca. Business have closed. This was the 1980's and people in Seneca were stupid. They are now smarter. Have tried to recover some of that lost business.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2015, 01:01:33 PM
Things are going well. About 50% above projections at this point. We'll see how it holds up over the winter, I'm guessing we'll slow down significantly. The hardest part right now is keeping fully staffed. Part time workers, man.

I did not know them personally, but a friend of mine knew one, used to work with him.

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Hey KCFDcat my friend from NYC is this elite sommelier and #foodie and when he came to town to took him to KCFDcatwork and he really liked it, as did the rest of us.  We may have left a vehicle in the lot overnight.  Sorry about that. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:01:57 PM
It's touching how you have come to the defense of your passionate, but feeble minded friend. Next time he wants to have you argue on his behalf just have him send out a signal or something.

I also find your faith in local government inspiring. Of course receiving government paychecks likely colors your objectivity.

why haven't you answered my question yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
Things are going well. About 50% above projections at this point. We'll see how it holds up over the winter, I'm guessing we'll slow down significantly. The hardest part right now is keeping fully staffed. Part time workers, man.

I did not know them personally, but a friend of mine knew one, used to work with him.

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Hey KCFDcat my friend from NYC is this elite sommelier and #foodie and when he came to town to took him to KCFDcatwork and he really liked it, as did the rest of us.  We may have left a vehicle in the lot overnight.  Sorry about that.
Cool!  No worries. I'm not a parking nazi like some of my neighbors.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 01:04:12 PM
It's touching how you have come to the defense of your passionate, but feeble minded friend. Next time he wants to have you argue on his behalf just have him send out a signal or something.

I also find your faith in local government inspiring. Of course receiving government paychecks likely colors your objectivity.

why haven't you answered my question yet?
I'll get right on that just as soon as you answer mine, MC. How are the funds being repaid?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:05:41 PM
It's touching how you have come to the defense of your passionate, but feeble minded friend. Next time he wants to have you argue on his behalf just have him send out a signal or something.

I also find your faith in local government inspiring. Of course receiving government paychecks likely colors your objectivity.

why haven't you answered my question yet?
I'll get right on that just as soon as you answer mine, MC. How are the funds being repaid?

i asked you first  :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2015, 01:06:23 PM
Hey guys not taking a side on this particular issue but there are studies that show that tax incentives like this at the local level don't always pan out, despite the best intentions, and the best data available at the time.  I'll hang up and listen off air. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:08:08 PM
Hey guys not taking a side on this particular issue but there are studies that show that tax incentives like this at the local level don't always pan out, despite the best intentions, and the best data available at the time.  I'll hang up and listen off air. 

$50 million over 25 years. as far as i know they are not raising taxes on kc residents to accomplish this. one RNC or DNC could be $150-200 million in reven- damn, he hung up and he's off the air now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 01:09:17 PM
It's touching how you have come to the defense of your passionate, but feeble minded friend. Next time he wants to have you argue on his behalf just have him send out a signal or something.

I also find your faith in local government inspiring. Of course receiving government paychecks likely colors your objectivity.
Seriously man?  Im all about disagreement and seeing the other side. But you at least have to come up with legit arguments... Which you have yet to do. You just call us stupid and make fun of the fact that I'm a civil worker.

There's a ton of precedent for cities the size of kc pitching $ towards large projects that are good for the long term health of the city. Even so, this is an incredibly small amount of money over a  long period of time.

I really don't care what you think, or if you think you're smarter than I am. If you need to tell yourself that, I'm good with it. I'm done engaging in an argument with someone who treats others like crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Hey mocat, I forgot, just wanted to call back and say my mom listens all the time and she really enjoys the segments when you guys try to get stray cats and dogs adopted.  Go cats!  And dogs, too, lol!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 01:12:15 PM
Hey guys not taking a side on this particular issue but there are studies that show that tax incentives like this at the local level don't always pan out, despite the best intentions, and the best data available at the time.  I'll hang up and listen off air.
Yeah man, that's true. Like almost any investment it's not a sure thing. But, even if it doesn't work out 100% in the city's favor $$-wise, it will still help fill a major void in KC- modern hotel space.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:13:57 PM
Hey mocat, I forgot, just wanted to call back and say my mom listens all the time and she really enjoys the segments when you guys try to get stray cats and dogs adopted.  Go cats!  And dogs, too, lol!

 :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 01:14:48 PM
It's touching how you have come to the defense of your passionate, but feeble minded friend. Next time he wants to have you argue on his behalf just have him send out a signal or something.

I also find your faith in local government inspiring. Of course receiving government paychecks likely colors your objectivity.
Seriously man?  Im all about disagreement and seeing the other side. But you at least have to come up with legit arguments... Which you have yet to do. You just call us stupid and make fun of the fact that I'm a civil worker.

Not sure how that got edited out, but you're right - there are two sides to this. I wish all arguments on this blog were civil and didn't include name calling. Lib called me names, and I called him names.
Fair enough. After reading that I'm struck by the disconnect of your sentiments and comments by lib. I made a point, was attacked personally with zero argument then I rubbed his nose in it. Probably shouldn't have. There are two sides to the argument, and I hope KC and your business thrive.

There's a ton of precedent for cities the size of kc pitching $ towards large projects that are good for the long term health of the city. Even so, this is an incredibly small amount of money over a  long period of time.

I really don't care what you think, or if you think you're smarter than I am. If you need to tell yourself that, I'm good with it. I'm done engaging in an argument with someone who treats others like crap.

Apparently I'm being blocked from responding. You're right, there are two sides to the debate. Best of luck to KC and your business.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on October 20, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
It's touching how you have come to the defense of your passionate, but feeble minded friend. Next time he wants to have you argue on his behalf just have him send out a signal or something.

I also find your faith in local government inspiring. Of course receiving government paychecks likely colors your objectivity.
Seriously man?  Im all about disagreement and seeing the other side. But you at least have to come up with legit arguments... Which you have yet to do. You just call us stupid and make fun of the fact that I'm a civil worker.

Fair enough. After reading that I'm struck by the disconnect of your sentiments and comments by lib. I made a point, was attacked personally with zero argument then I rubbed his nose in it. Probably shouldn't have. There are two sides to the argument, and I hope KC and your business thrive.

There's a ton of precedent for cities the size of kc pitching $ towards large projects that are good for the long term health of the city. Even so, this is an incredibly small amount of money over a  long period of time.

I really don't care what you think, or if you think you're smarter than I am. If you need to tell yourself that, I'm good with it. I'm done engaging in an argument with someone who treats others like crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 20, 2015, 01:18:10 PM
Hey guys not taking a side on this particular issue but there are studies that show that tax incentives like this at the local level don't always pan out, despite the best intentions, and the best data available at the time.  I'll hang up and listen off air. 

$50 million over 25 years. as far as i know they are not raising taxes on kc residents to accomplish this. one RNC or DNC could be $150-200 million in reven- damn, he hung up and he's off the air now.

kansascity.com

The plan doesn’t rely on general taxpayer dollars and doesn’t require the city to guarantee the debt.

Hotel projected to create about 400 hospitality jobs with an annual $20 million payroll.

expected to cost about $311 million, including the $4.5 million value of the land that the city would contribute for the project.

city would also contribute $35 million in cash, which would be bonded over 25 years and would actually cost about $2 million per year in convention and tourism taxes.

The project requires tax abatement and substantial tax incentives to be viable.  The total public contribution adds up to more than $160 million, or more than 50 percent of the cost.

The developers’ application says financing would also include $52 million in private equity, including $8.5 million from Hyatt, and $95 million in private debt.

The $311 million project costs add up this way:

- $218 million for construction.

- $32 million for design and professional services and soft costs.

- $13 million for land acquisition, including the city’s $4.5 million contribution.

- $38 million for financing and project management.

- Nearly $10 million in developer fees.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:20:52 PM
(http://www.smartmeetings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/kccch-rendering-6-e1432315814193.jpg)

WAIT, PART OF THIS WILL BE PAID FOR WITH TOURISM TAX DOLLARS???!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2015, 01:24:08 PM
Stupid question...if the economics of the project are sound, why is public funding needed? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:25:49 PM
Stupid question...if the economics of the project are sound, why is public funding needed?

does anything get built without it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2015, 01:30:40 PM
Stupid question...if the economics of the project are sound, why is public funding needed?

does anything get built without it?
not in kansas city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 20, 2015, 01:34:45 PM
Stupid question...if the economics of the project are sound, why is public funding needed?

it's a good question.  To incentivize behavior/development?  Pro sports franchises are wildly profitable, so why do ALL new stadiums involve municipal subsidies?  (why did we subsidize Sprint Center, Kauffman, Arrowhead, Sporting Park?)  Why do governments offer subsidies and tax breaks for profitable corporations to relocate?  Why do municipalities offer tax abatements to residents who make enough money to afford property taxes?  and on and on and on.     
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2015, 01:35:06 PM
Stupid question...if the economics of the project are sound, why is public funding needed?

does anything get built without it?

Herein lies the premise of the study I read that I don't care to find:  these projects go to the municipalities that are willing to fork over the most money.   That puts the municipalities in competition with each other, and often the most desperate and dumbest ones give away too much to secure the investment, and the promised revenue stream is never realized. 

Did the Power & Light district pan out economically?  (I don't know for sure, just asking, have heard conflicting rumors/opinions.)

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:38:03 PM
Did the Power & Light district pan out economically?  (I don't know for sure, just asking, have heard conflicting rumors/opinions.)

i don't think it's paid for itself yet, if that's what you're asking. but i think it is a pretty solid success (along with the sprint center)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:39:16 PM
i mean this is just how things work. i don't get the resistance to the hotel (including the way it's being financed), i really don't.

the streetcar and the airport are completely unrelated issues.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 20, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
KCFD, are you possibly looking for a part time bartender who calls the job his "side hustle?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 20, 2015, 01:46:23 PM

Herein lies the premise of the study I read that I don't care to find:  these projects go to the municipalities that are willing to fork over the most money.   That puts the municipalities in competition with each other, and often the most desperate and dumbest ones give away too much to secure the investment, and the promised revenue stream is never realized. 

Did the Power & Light district pan out economically?  (I don't know for sure, just asking, have heard conflicting rumors/opinions.)

Has it panned out financially?  no - not necessarily.  But, I think it's tough to judge the success/failure of such a monumental development with less than 10 years of data.  Especially given the fact that this thing was build amidst the great recession using pre-recession projections.  looking back in 20, 30 years will give a better idea of whether this was a smart move by the City.

It's also tough to determine how P&L has panned out economically, because you have to consider all of the collateral benefits it's had on the City that aren't necessarily attributed to P&L.  Sprint Center, H&R Block, Cosentinos Grocery, Midland Theatre, Alamo Drafthouse, etc.  None of these developments would have occurred without the first domino - P&L.  This is probably another discussion, but downtown is 180degrees from where it was pre-P&L.  why the change?  ask downtown workers, residents, business owners. 

 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on October 20, 2015, 01:47:14 PM
I am pro-hotel and pro-streetcar

I was anti-airport, but I guess it doesn't really matter cause I don't travel a ton like you busyness people do. So whatevs, have your shiny 1 terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2015, 01:49:09 PM
I don't see what's wrong with challenging the status quo is all, especially when it's "our" money that we are talking about.

They need to get rid of that stupid 1% tax in KCMO, BTW.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 01:49:30 PM
i travel kind of a lot and i do not want a new airport. it is crazy easy to travel in/out of. but that means we will never have an important hub airport, and i'm ok with that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
KCFD, are you possibly looking for a part time bartender who calls the job his "side hustle?"
Possibly.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 20, 2015, 01:57:21 PM
I don't see what's wrong with challenging the status quo is all, especially when it's "our" money that we are talking about.

They need to get rid of that stupid 1% tax in KCMO, BTW.

agree on the e-tax.  and I get challenging the status quo, but we've been talking about a convention hotel since the 90s.  it's time to get this plan done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 01:59:48 PM
I am pro-hotel and pro-streetcar

I was anti-airport, but I guess it doesn't really matter cause I don't travel a ton like you busyness people do. So whatevs, have your shiny 1 terminal.
I am pro hotel, pro streetcar, pro streetcar expansion, pro commuter rail, I think ridekc is a huge step forward to having regional transit.

Don't care either way about the airport. I think the money would be better spent elsewhere, such as a more comprehensive transit plan. But, I can also see why people say a new airport needs to be built.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on October 20, 2015, 02:18:49 PM

Herein lies the premise of the study I read that I don't care to find:  these projects go to the municipalities that are willing to fork over the most money.   That puts the municipalities in competition with each other, and often the most desperate and dumbest ones give away too much to secure the investment, and the promised revenue stream is never realized. 

Did the Power & Light district pan out economically?  (I don't know for sure, just asking, have heard conflicting rumors/opinions.)

Has it panned out financially?  no - not necessarily.  But, I think it's tough to judge the success/failure of such a monumental development with less than 10 years of data.  Especially given the fact that this thing was build amidst the great recession using pre-recession projections.  looking back in 20, 30 years will give a better idea of whether this was a smart move by the City.

It's also tough to determine how P&L has panned out economically, because you have to consider all of the collateral benefits it's had on the City that aren't necessarily attributed to P&L.  Sprint Center, H&R Block, Cosentinos Grocery, Midland Theatre, Alamo Drafthouse, etc.  None of these developments would have occurred without the first domino - P&L.  This is probably another discussion, but downtown is 180degrees from where it was pre-P&L.  why the change?  ask downtown workers, residents, business owners. 

 
The success of what has happened downtown post Sprint Center is exactly why this specific project kind of stinks.  Downtown KC is trending up, why should the public finance 50% of the cost of the project?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 02:27:21 PM
good grief do you even hear yourself
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2015, 02:28:35 PM
Did the Power & Light district pan out economically?  (I don't know for sure, just asking, have heard conflicting rumors/opinions.)

i don't think it's paid for itself yet, if that's what you're asking. but i think it is a pretty solid success (along with the sprint center)

you're not serious are you?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2015, 02:30:51 PM
mci will not be a hub, new airport or old airport, not a hub
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 02:31:29 PM
mci will not be a hub, new airport or old airport, not a hub

agreed!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 02:31:52 PM
Did the Power & Light district pan out economically?  (I don't know for sure, just asking, have heard conflicting rumors/opinions.)

i don't think it's paid for itself yet, if that's what you're asking. but i think it is a pretty solid success (along with the sprint center)

you're not serious are you?

absolutely!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2015, 02:34:01 PM
I HOPE YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS! (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article9530081.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2015, 02:36:07 PM
I HOPE YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS! (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article9530081.html)

that article and i are in complete agreement that pnl is a great success that has not paid for itself yet
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on October 20, 2015, 02:44:40 PM
I HOPE YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS! (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article9530081.html)

that article and i are in complete agreement that pnl is a great success that has not paid for itself yet
I don't think it will ever pay for itself, maybe if the Royals move downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 20, 2015, 02:58:54 PM

Herein lies the premise of the study I read that I don't care to find:  these projects go to the municipalities that are willing to fork over the most money.   That puts the municipalities in competition with each other, and often the most desperate and dumbest ones give away too much to secure the investment, and the promised revenue stream is never realized. 

Did the Power & Light district pan out economically?  (I don't know for sure, just asking, have heard conflicting rumors/opinions.)

Has it panned out financially?  no - not necessarily.  But, I think it's tough to judge the success/failure of such a monumental development with less than 10 years of data.  Especially given the fact that this thing was build amidst the great recession using pre-recession projections.  looking back in 20, 30 years will give a better idea of whether this was a smart move by the City.

It's also tough to determine how P&L has panned out economically, because you have to consider all of the collateral benefits it's had on the City that aren't necessarily attributed to P&L.  Sprint Center, H&R Block, Cosentinos Grocery, Midland Theatre, Alamo Drafthouse, etc.  None of these developments would have occurred without the first domino - P&L.  This is probably another discussion, but downtown is 180degrees from where it was pre-P&L.  why the change?  ask downtown workers, residents, business owners. 

 
The success of what has happened downtown post Sprint Center is exactly why this specific project kind of stinks.  Downtown KC is trending up, why should the public finance 50% of the cost of the project?
It's a 311 million dollar project. The city is helping with $50 million over 25 years. What math makes that add up to 50%?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on October 20, 2015, 03:03:36 PM
Need an NBA team at Sprint.  Come home Kings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on October 20, 2015, 03:24:33 PM
Hey guys not taking a side on this particular issue but there are studies that show that tax incentives like this at the local level don't always pan out, despite the best intentions, and the best data available at the time.  I'll hang up and listen off air. 

$50 million over 25 years. as far as i know they are not raising taxes on kc residents to accomplish this. one RNC or DNC could be $150-200 million in reven- damn, he hung up and he's off the air now.

kansascity.com

The plan doesn’t rely on general taxpayer dollars and doesn’t require the city to guarantee the debt.

Hotel projected to create about 400 hospitality jobs with an annual $20 million payroll.

expected to cost about $311 million, including the $4.5 million value of the land that the city would contribute for the project.

city would also contribute $35 million in cash, which would be bonded over 25 years and would actually cost about $2 million per year in convention and tourism taxes.

The project requires tax abatement and substantial tax incentives to be viable.  The total public contribution adds up to more than $160 million, or more than 50 percent of the cost.


The developers’ application says financing would also include $52 million in private equity, including $8.5 million from Hyatt, and $95 million in private debt.

The $311 million project costs add up this way:

- $218 million for construction.

- $32 million for design and professional services and soft costs.

- $13 million for land acquisition, including the city’s $4.5 million contribution.

- $38 million for financing and project management.

- Nearly $10 million in developer fees.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 20, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
did any of you live/work downtown pre-P&L? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
did any of you live/work downtown pre-P&L?

Yeah, this.  I worked downtown prior to that.  They always used to bitch about getting ppl to move downtown.  Now the occupancy rate is something like 86% in all the new lofts/appts. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 20, 2015, 04:08:45 PM
did any of you live/work downtown pre-P&L?

Yeah, this.  I worded downtown prior to that.  They always used to bitch about getting ppl to move downtown.  Now the occupancy rate is something like 86% in all the new lofts/appts.

X-roads was growing organically, but it was essentially surface lot blight from the loop to Crown Center. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 04:10:06 PM
Yes. Lofts were being built, but lack of a grocery store and the largely empty after six pm effect made it not so nice. P and L is a success. The investment the city made with it should be recouped with mostly private investment, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2015, 04:26:10 PM
It's touching how you have come to the defense of your passionate, but feeble minded friend. Next time he wants to have you argue on his behalf just have him send out a signal or something.

I also find your faith in local government inspiring. Of course receiving government paychecks likely colors your objectivity.
Seriously man?  Im all about disagreement and seeing the other side. But you at least have to come up with legit arguments... Which you have yet to do. You just call us stupid and make fun of the fact that I'm a civil worker.

Not sure how that got edited out, but you're right - there are two sides to this. I wish all arguments on this blog were civil and didn't include name calling. Lib called me names, and I called him names.
Fair enough. After reading that I'm struck by the disconnect of your sentiments and comments by lib. I made a point, was attacked personally with zero argument then I rubbed his nose in it. Probably shouldn't have. There are two sides to the argument, and I hope KC and your business thrive.

There's a ton of precedent for cities the size of kc pitching $ towards large projects that are good for the long term health of the city. Even so, this is an incredibly small amount of money over a  long period of time.

I really don't care what you think, or if you think you're smarter than I am. If you need to tell yourself that, I'm good with it. I'm done engaging in an argument with someone who treats others like crap.

Apparently I'm being blocked from responding. You're right, there are two sides to the debate. Best of luck to KC and your business.

Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
did any of you live/work downtown pre-P&L?

Yes...lived and worked..letting the dummies punch themselves out on this one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wabash909 on October 20, 2015, 07:58:47 PM
I do miss the haunted houses and wig shops and 8 blocks of weed infested surface parking though.


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on October 20, 2015, 08:44:04 PM
The hotel looks sexy. I vote yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 20, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
What happens when Indianapolis builds a 1000 room hotel and the FFA or whoever backs out?

Also, public funding of stadiums is pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2015, 09:44:32 PM
it is stupid.  kroenke has proposed building the inglewood stadium (+$1.9B) entirely with private financing. 
he must be a magician.  an egyptian magician.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2015, 08:13:57 AM
What happens when Indianapolis builds a 1000 room hotel and the FFA or whoever backs out?

Also, public funding of stadiums is pretty stupid.

 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 21, 2015, 08:21:49 AM
http://www.kmbc.com/news/north-part-of-downtown-loop-affected-by-death-investigation/35957202

This ruined my morning!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 21, 2015, 10:26:02 AM
it is stupid.  kroenke has proposed building the inglewood stadium (+$1.9B) entirely with private financing. 
he must be a magician.  an egyptian magician.

I agree it's silly that City's have to offer incentives for pro franchises given their wealth.  But, for City's like KC (unlike LA or NY), this is just reality.  Ask STL.   

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog/2015/09/stadium-financing-report-rams-have-biggest-villain.html

Since 1995, 29 of the 31 National Football League stadiums have received public subsidies, with taxpayers spending nearly $7 billion on construction and renovation projects, according to a report from the Taxpayers Protection Alliance (TPA), a conservative Washington, D.C., nonprofit affiliated with the Koch brothers.
   
For the new stadium in St. Louis, taxpayers would pay just less than 40 percent of the roughly $1 billion total cost. Not included in that is private seat licenses, which are estimated to contribute $160 million to the project, but under the private sources portion of funding.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2015, 10:38:18 AM
"This is just reality."

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2015, 04:53:03 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/crime/kansas-city-woman-charged-in-deaths-of-firefighters-larry-leggio-and-john-mesh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 29, 2015, 11:38:23 AM
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2015/10/29/city-auditors-report-kc-streetcar-authority.html?ana=e_kan_bn_breakingnews&u=j3SE7tn%2FWI%2Bz%2FpdnruK06YnxLll&t=1446136500
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 29, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
of course
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 11:45:57 AM
If you want to absolutely ensure that KCI is never a hub, keep the current configuration.   But in a post 9-11 world KCI is  :lol:   

When I pass through security and then sit there at KCI, I can go get a water or juice at that lame ass kiosk and share my time with the other prisoners . . .  dreaming about that BWW's I was just at right across from my gate in the ATL, watching the KSU cats, having a lovely drink and then popping right over to my gate 20 minutes before departure. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2015, 11:47:41 AM
of course

 :runaway:

Tell us more clams.... What does it mean!?!?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 29, 2015, 11:49:26 AM
If you want to absolutely ensure that KCI is never a hub, keep the current configuration.   But in a post 9-11 world KCI is  :lol:   

When I pass through security and then sit there at KCI, I can go get a water or juice at that lame ass kiosk and share my time with the other prisoners . . .  dreaming about that BWW's I was just at right across from my gate in the ATL, watching the KSU cats, having a lovely drink and then popping right over to my gate 20 minutes before departure.
There's a sweet Mexican restaurant you missed out on, Dax!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
our airport is effing badass the way it is. do not want a hub
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 11:52:00 AM
our airport is effing badass the way it is. do not want a hub

Tuck Nation calls you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 29, 2015, 11:52:33 AM
our airport is effing badass the way it is. do not want a hub
Airport smack is the best!  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 11:53:22 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 11:53:45 AM
sorry you flew southwest, dax  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 11:56:00 AM
I flight from CLT from time to time, curb drop off, blam right through security . . . then on to a cornucopia of places to eat and drink, or hang out in on one of the rocking chairs in the main terminal listening to someone play the piano.

KCI . . . mass in a crowded area with little to no amenities sitting on black pleather chairs.   :Yuck:

I don't fly SW mo . . . haven't in years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 11:56:45 AM
oh i thought you had a layover in kci (which would suck horribly)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 11:59:53 AM
oh i thought you had a layover in kci (which would suck horribly)

There's a lot of good about KCI, pre 9-11 it was awesome, but not so much anymore. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 29, 2015, 12:11:57 PM
WTF I wanted to talk street cars.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 29, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
I flight from CLT from time to time, curb drop off, blam right through security . . . then on to a cornucopia of places to eat and drink, or hang out in on one of the rocking chairs in the main terminal listening to someone play the piano.

KCI . . . mass in a crowded area with little to no amenities sitting on black pleather chairs.   :Yuck:

I don't fly SW mo . . . haven't in years.

Those rocking chairs are dumb AF
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
every small-time SEC airport has rocking chairs. like every single one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 12:25:28 PM
I flight from CLT from time to time, curb drop off, blam right through security . . . then on to a cornucopia of places to eat and drink, or hang out in on one of the rocking chairs in the main terminal listening to someone play the piano.

KCI . . . mass in a crowded area with little to no amenities sitting on black pleather chairs.   :Yuck:

I don't fly SW mo . . . haven't in years.

Those rocking chairs are dumb AF

No there not, you're just a dumb sometimes.

CLT they have way more flights then MCI or Hey lets build Kansas City International as far away from Kansas City as we possibly can and still be able to call it Kansas City. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2015, 12:30:57 PM
No worries, MCI is being replaced and all the townies will realize how dumb they were being about current MCI...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2015, 12:31:45 PM
First streetcar will be here Monday!  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
No worries, MCI is being replaced and all the townies will realize how dumb they were being about current MCI...

i mean i would love a new airport (closer to downtown is more important but probably never happen).

but it is a giant waste of money to do that. i have listed below the relative cost (to the city of KCMO) of the three projects we have talked about recently:

1. new airport




















2. streetcar


























































3. hyatt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
I flight from CLT from time to time, curb drop off, blam right through security . . . then on to a cornucopia of places to eat and drink, or hang out in on one of the rocking chairs in the main terminal listening to someone play the piano.

KCI . . . mass in a crowded area with little to no amenities sitting on black pleather chairs.   :Yuck:

I don't fly SW mo . . . haven't in years.

Those rocking chairs are dumb AF

No there not, you're just a dumb sometimes.

CLT they have way more flights then MCI or Hey lets build Kansas City International as far away from Kansas City as we possibly can and still be able to call it Kansas City.

CLT is a hub. of course it has more flights.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 29, 2015, 12:41:10 PM
wow i didn't realize that the airlines had an RFP out for new hubs.  and all it takes is to build an airport with a nordstrom, a TGI Friday's, and a couple of shitty sports bars.  let's do it so that the poors from north carolina are comfortable while they wait 20 minutes to board.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2015, 12:41:45 PM
Money paid by fliers.... Not city taxes. This has been rehashed too many times. The building is junk... Something has to be done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 12:43:32 PM
The people from elsewhere laugh at the poors in KC and their shitty little podunk non hub airport and its vintage 1970's amenities and its entire Terminal C which closed from lack of use  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
The people from elsewhere laugh at the poors in KC and their shitty little podunk non hub airport and its vintage 1970's amenities and its entire Terminal C which closed from lack of use  :lol:

YEP. don't GAF dax
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 12:47:35 PM
wow i didn't realize that the airlines had an RFP out for new hubs.  and all it takes is to build an airport with a nordstrom, a TGI Friday's, and a couple of shitty sports bars.  let's do it so that the poors from north carolina are comfortable while they wait 20 minutes to board.

clams. yes. yes clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2015, 12:49:05 PM
 
The people from elsewhere laugh at the poors in KC and their shitty little podunk non hub airport and its vintage 1970's amenities and its entire Terminal C which closed from lack of use  :lol:

A closed not C..... And I couldnt care less if tourists are impressed with the airport. That is a dumb reason to want a new terminal.

I don't go to NYC because of their airport... And I don't want to go to Charlotte because it has a "nice"  airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 29, 2015, 12:54:12 PM
Money paid by fliers.... Not city taxes. This has been rehashed too many times. The building is junk... Something has to be done.

the money is paid for by the airlines.  MCI will be more expensive for them to fly into. 
do you think that the ticket prices won't be adjusted to reflect that increase?  who do you think will feel the brunt of those increased ticket prices, dax from NC (poor) who flies into MCI 2 times a year, or local companies like cerner and sprint, who fly hundreds of employees in/out of MCI on a weekly basis?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2015, 12:57:22 PM
Money paid by fliers.... Not city taxes. This has been rehashed too many times. The building is junk... Something has to be done.

the money is paid for by the airlines.  MCI will be more expensive for them to fly into. 
do you think that the ticket prices won't be adjusted to reflect that increase?  who do you think will feel the brunt of those increased ticket prices, dax from NC (poor) who flies into MCI 2 times a year, or local companies like cerner and sprint, who fly hundreds of employees in/out of MCI on a weekly basis?

yes clams. yes. on the other hand, we could print money and have a sexy new glass hyattscraper and everybody would be happy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 29, 2015, 12:58:24 PM
I flight from CLT from time to time, curb drop off, blam right through security . . . then on to a cornucopia of places to eat and drink, or hang out in on one of the rocking chairs in the main terminal listening to someone play the piano.

KCI . . . mass in a crowded area with little to no amenities sitting on black pleather chairs.   :Yuck:

I don't fly SW mo . . . haven't in years.

Those rocking chairs are dumb AF

I literally :lol: when I saw those passing through.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 29, 2015, 01:00:12 PM
Money paid by fliers.... Not city taxes. This has been rehashed too many times. The building is junk... Something has to be done.

the money is paid for by the airlines.  MCI will be more expensive for them to fly into. 
do you think that the ticket prices won't be adjusted to reflect that increase?  who do you think will feel the brunt of those increased ticket prices, dax from NC (poor) who flies into MCI 2 times a year, or local companies like cerner and sprint, who fly hundreds of employees in/out of MCI on a weekly basis?

yes clams. yes. on the other hand, we could print money and have a sexy new glass hyattscraper and everybody would be happy.

i'm pro-hyatt, just anti-sly
and i think there is a better way to structure the deal.  unfortunately, sly is but one man, he can't do it all no matter how hard he tries.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2015, 01:03:59 PM
Money paid by fliers.... Not city taxes. This has been rehashed too many times. The building is junk... Something has to be done.

the money is paid for by the airlines.  MCI will be more expensive for them to fly into. 
do you think that the ticket prices won't be adjusted to reflect that increase?  who do you think will feel the brunt of those increased ticket prices, dax from NC (poor) who flies into MCI 2 times a year, or local companies like cerner and sprint, who fly hundreds of employees in/out of MCI on a weekly basis?

Yes airline landing fees passed to consumer and PFC fees on our tickets already as it's own line item... That's why I said paid by fliers.

Yes I agree businesses pay for a lot of those flights (think the last number I saw was like 60 to 70 percent)... The business community is behind the new terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 01:04:10 PM
FYI, I spend 90% of my time in KC and MW now . . . clams!  I've flown out of MCI a bunch lately.

Sounds like the perfect time to bulldoze dumpy old Terminal C and turn MCI into a real airport with a modern terminal that feeds A,B by a train or tram.

Municipalities exist to support infrastructure, otherwise, why have them? 



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 29, 2015, 01:05:29 PM
let's increase the cost of living in kansas city, mo as much as possible. i already pay higher taxes than if i were to live in los angeles.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
FYI, I spend 90% of my time in KC and MW now . . . clams!  I've flown out of MCI a bunch lately.

Sounds like the perfect time to bulldoze dumpy old Terminal C and turn MCI into a real airport with a modern terminal that feeds A,B by a train or tram.

Municipalities exist to support infrastructure, otherwise, why have them?

New terminal will also have new gates/garage and built where terminal A now stands. B and C will turn into general aviation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 29, 2015, 01:08:45 PM
Good grief. 'Dax is obsessed with our city!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 01:22:39 PM
Good grief. 'Dax is obsessed with our city!

I work for a company in KC, I'm in KC almost all the time now, I'm from here.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 29, 2015, 01:26:26 PM
Good grief. 'Dax is obsessed with our city!

I work for a company in KC, I'm in KC almost all the time now, I'm from here.
I know. I get it. When I moved from Manhattan to Garden City, KS, I tried to convince myself all the time that I loved it and how much better it was. Trying to tell myself that I wasn't missing anything. I get it. I know what you're doing. Lying to yourself just never works tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Good grief. 'Dax is obsessed with our city!

I work for a company in KC, I'm in KC almost all the time now, I'm from here.
I know. I get it. When I moved from Manhattan to Garden City, KS, I tried to convince myself all the time that I loved it and how much better it was. Trying to tell myself that I wasn't missing anything. I get it. I know what you're doing. Lying to yourself just never works tho.

What are you even talking about?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 29, 2015, 01:32:39 PM
Sometimes when you're home sick, you talk crap on home to feel better. That's what you're doing right now, without even knowing it.

 :sdeek: :surprised: :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 01:40:04 PM
Sometimes when you're home sick, you talk crap on home to feel better. That's what you're doing right now without even knowing it.

 :sdeek: :surprised: :D

Because I want to make KC better, because I'm from here and spend most of time here?  Weird thoughts Wacks.

Where I lived in NC was 1000 feet away from the beach where they film movies, you're talking about a place in no where Kansas where they boil blood from the slaughter house.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 01:56:34 PM
KC is really on the business end of a good ole fashioned dax hate rant
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 02:00:04 PM
KC is really on the business end of a good ole fashioned dax hate rant

Not really.  You lack perspective.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 29, 2015, 02:04:09 PM
I bet dax wouldn't say this ish to Z's face.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 02:05:01 PM
I bet dax wouldn't say this ish to Z's face.

Who is Z?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 29, 2015, 02:05:41 PM
I agree with both sides on the airport so let's all be friends
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 29, 2015, 02:11:13 PM
Dax, think you can make it to ff16?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2015, 02:12:19 PM
Dax, think you can make it to ff16?

Probably.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 02:18:35 PM
oh man, a peak behind the curtain.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 29, 2015, 02:19:35 PM
 :excited: :eek: :love: :Woot: :alleyoop::party:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 29, 2015, 02:42:42 PM
dax is going to be on my trivia team
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 29, 2015, 03:04:53 PM
dax is going to be on my trivia team

every answer will end with






sad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 29, 2015, 03:09:10 PM
dax is going to be on my trivia team

Maybe you guys can get a question right this year  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 29, 2015, 03:24:30 PM

I bet dax wouldn't say this ish to Z's face.

Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 30, 2015, 12:46:06 PM
look at this hot POA

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/qm0szf/picture41871804/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/Streetcar)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 30, 2015, 12:48:20 PM
I want to ride that train. (woo woo!)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on October 30, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
that is pretty hot.

hotter than advertised, imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on October 30, 2015, 01:03:43 PM
what is that, a street car or some crap?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 30, 2015, 01:11:59 PM
a streetcar named OVERSIZED LOAD  :fatty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 30, 2015, 01:25:20 PM
what is that, a street car or some crap?

it's the choo choo. c'mon n' ride it. woo woo!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 30, 2015, 01:26:18 PM
:emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 30, 2015, 01:33:37 PM
Chrystle Lampitt, now officially a Kansas City thing:

https://twitter.com/CrystleLampitt/status/659772363538567170
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on October 30, 2015, 01:49:03 PM
I can't wait to 'pak n ride
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 30, 2015, 01:54:23 PM
I can't wait to 'pak n ride

it's free to ride though, is that gonna be an issue for you?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on October 30, 2015, 02:01:00 PM
I think I'm gonna turn up in Waldo this evening.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 30, 2015, 05:38:37 PM
I want that line to go everywhere (except up  north. I mean, WGAF  about those guys).  It should def come over into ks and stuff. 

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 02, 2015, 10:03:17 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS0TpFLUAAAgIaB.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on November 02, 2015, 10:17:21 AM
they should drive it in the parade!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 02, 2015, 02:37:20 PM
clams HATES him and wants this photo removed from the internet. share the hell out of it!

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12208718_933329790053502_8363653178798109928_n.jpg?oh=0736b3b39c12ad65916ade39999af644&oe=56B9EB78)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 02, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
nice tie, nice goatee, dork
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 02, 2015, 03:29:35 PM
That sly son of a bitch pulls it off
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 02, 2015, 04:04:21 PM
nice tie, nice goatee, dork

i'm a fan of bow ties.

That sly son of a bitch pulls it off

omg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 03, 2015, 08:57:40 AM
Should I unfriend this person?

Quote
This whole 2 mile trolly is a damn money pit ?#?getittogetherkc? ?#?idontwanttopayyourstupidtaxincrease?

Monday 12:32am:
Quote
Kansas City just got really freaking loud....I just want to sleep! ?#?stupidfireworks? ?#?itsnot4thofJuly?


Quote
Seriously is this a thing? Dress shoes mixed with a running shoe is not a good look! ?#?idontgetit?
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11128066_574399772454_3988957406931293489_n.jpg?oh=95c81cb0810ea83e0a60ad0f2c2cf16a&oe=56CAD60C)

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2015, 09:09:24 AM
Is that 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 03, 2015, 10:23:23 AM
Is that 'clams
love fireworks, have shitloads of cole haan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
Found out at work today that I'm probably going to be moving to the kc cat pak'rs office  :users:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 03, 2015, 07:44:04 PM
Found out at work today that I'm probably going to be moving to the kc cat pak'rs office  :users:

I lean that way more and more everyday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 03, 2015, 08:35:00 PM
Stopped by double shift after the parade and enjoyed a nice saison and pale ale. Asked the bartender if the firefighter brewer was there but apparently he was out doing firefighting things.

I give it 17 to 38 stars.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 04, 2015, 08:51:16 AM
Found out at work today that I'm probably going to be moving to the kc cat pak'rs office  :users:

Tell my college roommate hi     :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 04, 2015, 08:52:19 AM
Found out at work today that I'm probably going to be moving to the kc cat pak'rs office  :users:
:surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on November 04, 2015, 09:06:38 AM
Found out at work today that I'm probably going to be moving to the kc cat pak'rs office  :users:

I lean that way more and more everyday.

It's time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 04, 2015, 12:00:47 PM
Stopped by double shift after the parade and enjoyed a nice saison and pale ale. Asked the bartender if the firefighter brewer was there but apparently he was out doing firefighting things.

I give it 17 to 38 stars.

I need to try this place out, and i'm thinking this weekend just might be the right time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 04, 2015, 12:34:01 PM
Found out at work today that I'm probably going to be moving to the kc cat pak'rs office  :users:

I lean that way more and more everyday.

It's time.

job satisfaction is a big thing. i want to stay in this industry, which doesn't leave me with many options. it's probably a year or two away still, if ever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2015, 01:00:48 PM
I can't wait for jocohead
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 04, 2015, 04:05:11 PM
I can't wait for jocohead

i will never, never ever, not even if there is a fire, be a jocohead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on November 04, 2015, 04:06:08 PM
LOL at how many times I've heard that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 04, 2015, 04:12:17 PM
i rough ridin' mean it, tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on November 04, 2015, 04:15:34 PM
just start shopping for minivans now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 04, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
do we even want roidhead? hes from topeka
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2015, 04:18:12 PM
I know for a fact neither roidhead or seven would fit in down here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
do we even want roidhead? hes from topeka

i'm not even from shawnee county, dude.

just start shopping for minivans now.

i actually have nothing against minivans. they're great.

I know for a fact neither roidhead or seven would fit in down here.

you know nothing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2015, 05:11:16 PM
i rough ridin' mean it, tho.

The city will welcomes you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2015, 05:31:33 PM
I know for a fact neither roidhead or seven would fit in down here.

you know nothing.

i took it as a compliment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 04, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
I know for a fact neither roidhead or seven would fit in down here.

you know nothing.

i took it as a compliment

i certainly didn't take it as an insult, he still doesn't know what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 04, 2015, 05:37:29 PM
i rough ridin' mean it, tho.

The city will welcomes you

 :blush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 04, 2015, 06:29:00 PM
roidhead and libliblibliblibliblib at kanza hall just party rocking their faces off  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 04, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
roidhead and libliblibliblibliblib at kanza hall just party rocking their faces off  :love:

i don't know what that place is, but i'd probably have fun if i was with my bud, lib^7.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
this rough rider is taking to the streets tomorrow for testing

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c08008bb7ee39d4bfcccf757f/images/ba645843-b74a-43b0-8899-28384a8a0504.jpg)

http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=c08008bb7ee39d4bfcccf757f&id=68c8be356c (http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=c08008bb7ee39d4bfcccf757f&id=68c8be356c)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on November 05, 2015, 03:10:58 PM
I read they hauled away 7 tons of trash after the pep rally.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on November 05, 2015, 03:21:09 PM
I didn't know that many Cardinals fans could make it.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 05, 2015, 03:22:03 PM
I read they hauled away 7 tons of trash after the pep rally.

they didn't have trash cans like, anywhere
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on November 05, 2015, 03:23:16 PM
I read they hauled away 7 tons of trash after the pep rally.

they didn't have trash cans like, anywhere

I read that, that seems like a really bad idea, even if only 200-300K showed up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 05, 2015, 03:26:01 PM
I read they hauled away 7 tons of trash after the pep rally.

they didn't have trash cans like, anywhere

I read that, that seems like a really bad idea, even if only 200-300K showed up.

my pockets were so full of candy wrappers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 05, 2015, 03:28:32 PM
Since I didn't get to go to the parade/rally, I did my daily run down grand st last night and it looked clean as eff. They really did a good job of cleaning everything up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on November 05, 2015, 03:28:50 PM
I read they hauled away 7 tons of trash after the pep rally.

Most likely planted there by angry Blue Jays fans.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
Since I didn't get to go to the parade/rally, I did my daily run down grand st last night and it looked clean as eff. They really did a good job of cleaning everything up.
You ran on grand street because you didn't go to the parade?   :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Since I didn't get to go to the parade/rally, I did my daily run down grand st last night and it looked clean as eff. They really did a good job of cleaning everything up.
You ran on grand street because you didn't go to the parade?   :confused:
Yeah, I ran the parade route. I wanted to see the business paintings for the Royals and see if there were any balloon thingies hanging, etc. I don't know, man, I'm kinda weird like that. I always ran by the BSFS the day before a game too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2015, 10:00:20 AM
I don't think it's weird WackyCat08, I probably would have done the same thing except driving in my car
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 10:01:41 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 10:06:20 AM
i just didn't know how one thing led to the other.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 10:06:58 AM
i just didn't know how one thing led to the other.
Gotcha.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 10:34:17 AM
snapped this 'oto of the USS Desire this morning

(http://oi68.tinypic.com/281wo5i.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 10:45:52 AM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 11:03:33 AM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests
You need to come to me for all of the river market pro tips.

Best place to watch a game: MInskys

Best drink deal in town: Blueline

Best Breakfast: Farmhouse

Best Happy hour patio/drink deals: Cafe al dente

etc. You're welcome!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 06, 2015, 11:58:41 AM
best beer/cigar selection and overall best place:  Harry's CC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests

Yeah I've considered condos in river market now because of this sexy sreetcar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 01:05:38 PM
best beer/cigar selection and overall best place:  Harry's CC
Yeah, I just hate that they don't have TV's. I'm usually watching games on the weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 01:06:48 PM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests

Yeah I've considered condos in river market now because of this sexy sreetcar.
That's probably where Ms. Wacky and I are going next. Just sucks tho, because a lot of places down there aren't pet friendly, unless it's a cat. I mean, lol at having a cat as a pet.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 06, 2015, 01:08:40 PM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests

Yeah I've considered condos in river market now because of this sexy sreetcar.
That's probably where Ms. Wacky and I are going next. Just sucks tho, because a lot of places down there aren't pet friendly, unless it's a cat. I mean, lol at having a cat as a pet.  :lol:

Your dog is pretty small, just say he is a large cat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 01:13:39 PM
prediction: very few people will use the streetcar once the shiny new feeling wears off.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 06, 2015, 01:19:30 PM
prediction: very few people will use the streetcar once the shiny new feeling wears off.

i'm old enough to remember when you could ride boats in brush creek at the plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 01:22:01 PM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests

Yeah I've considered condos in river market now because of this sexy sreetcar.
That's probably where Ms. Wacky and I are going next. Just sucks tho, because a lot of places down there aren't pet friendly, unless it's a cat. I mean, lol at having a cat as a pet.  :lol:

Your dog is pretty small, just say he is a large cat.
I tried when I lived there. It didn't last long before ppl were bitching.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
prediction: very few people will use the streetcar once the shiny new feeling wears off.

don't you live in lenexa or something?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on November 06, 2015, 01:34:46 PM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests

Yeah I've considered condos in river market now because of this sexy sreetcar.
That's probably where Ms. Wacky and I are going next. Just sucks tho, because a lot of places down there aren't pet friendly, unless it's a cat. I mean, lol at having a cat as a pet.  :lol:

Yeah what's up with that? Why does River Market hate dogs? Almost makes me hate the River Market. But that combo plate at Habashi House keeps drawing me back.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 01:40:04 PM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests

Yeah I've considered condos in river market now because of this sexy sreetcar.
That's probably where Ms. Wacky and I are going next. Just sucks tho, because a lot of places down there aren't pet friendly, unless it's a cat. I mean, lol at having a cat as a pet.  :lol:

Yeah what's up with that? Why does River Market hate dogs? Almost makes me hate the River Market. But that combo plate at Habashi House keeps drawing me back.
Not sure, I swear 2/3 of the places down there are rent controlled tho, so they have unique rules. We've already started looking for dog friendly places down there, because when her dog goes, i'm going to get us a bigger, cooler, dog.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 01:45:14 PM
prediction: very few people will use the streetcar once the shiny new feeling wears off.

don't you live in lenexa or something?

nope. just a lenexa fan!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 01:52:26 PM
prediction: very few people will use the streetcar once the shiny new feeling wears off.

don't you live in lenexa or something?


nope. just a lenexa fan!
woo!!! lenexa rules!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 02:03:44 PM
well i think you're wrong. the downtown population is going up, and also people from out of town that stay downtown will use it, and i don't think there will be fewer people doing that. especially if my giant throbbing erect hyattscraper gets built
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 02:04:24 PM
if they knocked the stupid brookside people off the vote next time, we can get it extended to westport/plaza, in which case people will use it all the effing time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 02:12:31 PM
i love the IDEA of a street car but this thing was built too late after the area developed and just doesnt go to where people actually live. it just gets people from one side of downtown to the other. itll be convenient for some people, but likely not enough.

if it went to brookside/waldo id use it all the time. happy for kc. hopefully they extend it in future years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 02:15:08 PM
thats just my personal use. if i lived downtown id probably use it more, but id still have a car. and id likely still drive that car most of the time.

also, im worried with it being free that its going to get gross and people will stop using it. tax payers cannot be counted on to keep it afloat forever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 02:15:41 PM
if they knocked the stupid brookside people off the vote next time, we can get it extended to westport/plaza, in which case people will use it all the effing time

agree. if it went to the plaza it would be 2,000 x better
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 02:21:37 PM
streetcar is stupid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 02:22:18 PM
Homeless people are ppl too, Tonya! Sheesh. smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 02:24:46 PM
if they knocked the stupid brookside people off the vote next time, we can get it extended to westport/plaza, in which case people will use it all the effing time on friday and saturday nights.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
this streetcar is basically just a fitbit.

your work pays for it and you think its super cool. you use it for a month or so while its new and shiny and cool. then you forget about it because it doesnt really do much to change your every day life and its just kind of in the way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 02:37:53 PM
if they knocked the stupid brookside people off the vote next time, we can get it extended to westport/plaza, in which case people will use it all the effing time on friday and saturday nights.

oh so nobody will take it to work from their midtown home? get out of here dlew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 02:38:57 PM
you guys are so small timey. kc did not invent the streetcar. it's going through the most dense part of town (which will never not be the most dense part of town), and we can already see the businesses and hotels that have opened along the route only because it now exists.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 02:41:12 PM
look at all these streetcars that nobody uses

(http://greatergreater.com/images/201412/112233.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 02:48:56 PM
a better bus system just makes a ton more sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 02:55:35 PM
how do you know anyone uses them? tons of variables here. do they go from actual real neighborhoods that people live in or just a place kids go on field trips to? do they go by actual real grocery stores? to sports stadiums that have teams that play 40+ games in a year?

idk. im not an expert on charlotte's street car system.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 06, 2015, 03:01:51 PM
i will use that fine POA whenever i am in kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 03:02:54 PM
New Orleans is my favorite one out of all of those!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 03:17:10 PM
(http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/charlottefuture/Documents/8_5x11StreetcarStarterProjectAlignmentMap.jpg)

runs through charlotte hornets stadium, a college, a hospital and a huge park

(http://kayakitiyat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/streetcar_map1.jpg)

runs through tulane, business district, french quarter (very popular tourist destination)


theres just not enough people to use our street car because it doesnt run through popular destinations or through heavily populated areas. sure, it runs through the most dense part of town during a week day when everyone commutes in from the suburbs, but thats about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 06, 2015, 03:25:51 PM
its hilarious listening to joco people talk about the street car like its their own  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 06, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
hey kansas city you're welcome for the sprint center - joco people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 03:34:13 PM
hey kansas city you're welcome for the sprint center - joco people
like, you don't live in KC either, TBT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 06, 2015, 03:37:39 PM
I'm hoping the streetcar works on its own, but it's more of a downtown circulator.  will be more practical once light rail begins running to the suburbs.  once this occurs, downtown workers can legitimately commute to work without a vehicle.   

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 06, 2015, 03:38:27 PM
hey kansas city you're welcome for the sprint center - joco people
like, you don't live in KC either, TBT.

i know, im also not condemning an improvement to KC that i had no part in deciding or will use often
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 03:43:21 PM
hey kansas city you're welcome for the sprint center - joco people
like, you don't live in KC either, TBT.

i know, im also not condemning an improvement to KC that i had no part in deciding or will use often

im not condemning it. im just saying the route is pointless.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 03:43:40 PM
hey kansas city you're welcome for the sprint center - joco people
like, you don't live in KC either, TBT.

i know, im also not condemning an improvement to KC that i had no part in deciding or will use often
we're each offering our opinion about a decision made by a city in which neither of us live. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 03:44:40 PM
Quote
it doesnt run through heavily populated areas. sure, it runs through the most dense part of town

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 03:45:49 PM
Quote
it doesnt run through heavily populated areas. sure, it runs through the most dense part of town

 :lol:
do you know the number of expected daily riders?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 03:45:53 PM
hey kansas city you're welcome for the sprint center - joco people
like, you don't live in KC either, TBT.

i know, im also not condemning an improvement to KC that i had no part in deciding or will use often

im not condemning it. im just saying the route is pointless.

there could not be a possible better route for the phase 1
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 03:47:07 PM
Quote
it doesnt run through heavily populated areas. sure, it runs through the most dense part of town

 :lol:
do you know the number of expected daily riders?

i have no idea. i know the max is full every day
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 06, 2015, 03:49:09 PM
hey kansas city you're welcome for the sprint center - joco people
like, you don't live in KC either, TBT.

i know, im also not condemning an improvement to KC that i had no part in deciding or will use often

im not condemning it. im just saying the route is pointless.

there could not be a possible better route for the phase 1

its not going by a blue valley school so why even build it right
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 06, 2015, 03:49:16 PM

im not condemning it. im just saying the route is pointless.

on its own it may seem pointless.  but the whole idea is to have feeder lines tie into Union Station.  gotta start somewhere - we've been talking about better mass transit for decades.  every year the downtown population and traffic grows.  it's only a matter of time. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 06, 2015, 03:50:05 PM
Quote
it doesnt run through heavily populated areas. sure, it runs through the most dense part of town

 :lol:
do you know the number of expected daily riders?

i have no idea. i know the max is full every day
just looked.  appears to be 2,700 expected.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 06, 2015, 03:51:38 PM
I wish it just went straight from my house to the K. No stops.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 03:52:42 PM
Quote
it doesnt run through heavily populated areas. sure, it runs through the most dense part of town

 :lol:

well this couldnt have been taken out of context any more than it was. tapout noted.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 03:53:46 PM
Quote
it doesnt run through heavily populated areas. sure, it runs through the most dense part of town

 :lol:

well this couldnt have been taken out of context any more than it was. tapout noted.

i have learned from sys that it's best to trim quoted text down to keep this site from looking gross. what part is out of context?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 06, 2015, 03:59:24 PM
is it a coincidence that Streetcar Named Desire in Crown Center closes next month?  this town just isn't big enough for 2 streetcars, it's maddening.  UGH!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2015, 04:19:12 PM
Quote
it doesnt run through heavily populated areas. sure, it runs through the most dense part of town

 :lol:

well this couldnt have been taken out of context any more than it was. tapout noted.

i have learned from sys that it's best to trim quoted text down to keep this site from looking gross. what part is out of context?

during workdays its the most dense
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2015, 05:41:14 PM
I'm hoping the streetcar works on its own, but it's more of a downtown circulator.  will be more practical once light rail begins running to the suburbs.  once this occurs, downtown workers can legitimately commute to work without a vehicle.   



I have to say I am completely caught off guard by the idea of light rail to the suburbs. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2015, 05:53:21 PM
i think i will do more exploring of river market establishments once this thing gets going. maybe i'll see if cellar & loft is as shitty as its name suggests

Yeah I've considered condos in river market now because of this sexy sreetcar.
That's probably where Ms. Wacky and I are going next. Just sucks tho, because a lot of places down there aren't pet friendly, unless it's a cat. I mean, lol at having a cat as a pet.  :lol:

Yeah what's up with that? Why does River Market hate dogs? Almost makes me hate the River Market. But that combo plate at Habashi House keeps drawing me back.
Not sure, I swear 2/3 of the places down there are rent controlled tho, so they have unique rules. We've already started looking for dog friendly places down there, because when her dog goes, i'm going to get us a bigger, cooler, dog.

i really want to live downtown or in river market, but i think i'm just way too lazy to take care of a dog in that kind of a situation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2015, 06:05:23 PM
Some LSCIQ ITT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
I'm hoping the streetcar works on its own, but it's more of a downtown circulator.  will be more practical once light rail begins running to the suburbs.  once this occurs, downtown workers can legitimately commute to work without a vehicle.   



I have to say I am completely caught off guard by the idea of light rail to the suburbs.

It's more dense out there ww
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2015, 06:58:17 PM
Hey @Mocat, ms. Wacky and I went to happy hour at Blue Line tonight. Guess what? I had 4 wells and Ms. Wacky had 3 wines and our tab was only $20. :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2015, 08:04:42 PM
I'm hoping the streetcar works on its own, but it's more of a downtown circulator.  will be more practical once light rail begins running to the suburbs.  once this occurs, downtown workers can legitimately commute to work without a vehicle.   



I have to say I am completely caught off guard by the idea of light rail to the suburbs.

It's more dense out there ww

light rail is code word for a widened car pool lane right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2015, 08:21:47 PM
The median on I 35 is ripe for an elevated line!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 06, 2015, 11:56:26 PM
The median on I 35 is ripe for an elevated line!

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that 5 o'clock 'fic jam  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 07, 2015, 11:56:07 AM
Hey @Mocat, ms. Wacky and I went to happy hour at Blue Line tonight. Guess what? I had 4 wells and Ms. Wacky had 3 wines and our tab was only $20. :love:
The blue line is awesome. Went and watched the USA v Canada hockey game during thr last Olympics. Great times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 07, 2015, 11:57:13 AM
We're going to try and stop by for a beer today btw. Trying to go somewhere new for lunch too.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 07, 2015, 01:23:26 PM
We're going to try and stop by for a beer today btw. Trying to go somewhere new for lunch too.


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Try Howards grocery. Burgers are awesome.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 07, 2015, 01:30:12 PM
Good to know. We ended up doing Antons and are about to head your way.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 07, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on November 09, 2015, 07:56:09 AM
Double shift was packed on Friday, my friends that had never been there liked it. 'grats KCFD

The Ruins is really fun. Good music, and the serve yourself taps worked well. Ended up being pretty cheap because I just filled my cup 2/3rds of the way each time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 09, 2015, 12:10:16 PM
the Denver transit system works really well.  LR line connects Littleton suburbs to downtown union station.  16th street line circulates people from union station through the heart of downtown.  of course, the chances of this running into JoCo are slim to none b/c bi-state.  but, a line into Lee's Summit along existing rail corridor would make sense.       
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2015, 06:16:24 PM
omg kc is getting one of those indoor sky diving things at 435 & metcalf  :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 09, 2015, 07:15:12 PM

omg kc is getting one of those indoor sky diving things at 435 & metcalf  :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:
Northbound or southbound?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 12, 2015, 09:54:23 AM
First streetcar run under its own power went off perfectly this morning!  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2015, 02:35:31 PM
this dork-
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/after-four-years-with-a-friendly-city-council-mayor-sly-james-must-learn-to-play-well-with-others/Content?oid=6375344
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 12, 2015, 02:47:48 PM
this dork-
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/after-four-years-with-a-friendly-city-council-mayor-sly-james-must-learn-to-play-well-with-others/Content?oid=6375344

do you read the pitch for the same enjoyment as mich reads mommyblogs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2015, 03:01:02 PM
i go there b/c it's a good source to find out about restaurant/bar openings/closings, why?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 12, 2015, 03:07:06 PM
i go there b/c it's a good source to find out about restaurant/bar openings/closings, why?

i hate the pitch and their non stop charlie hustle t-shirt wearing faces

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 12, 2015, 05:43:02 PM
Sexy
https://vine.co/v/iBu2hOi752e
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2015, 07:13:17 PM
Sexy
https://vine.co/v/iBu2hOi752e
What's the over/under on amount of cars this thing hits on the first month?  30?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 12, 2015, 07:35:35 PM
Sexy
https://vine.co/v/iBu2hOi752e
What's the over/under on amount of cars this thing hits on the first month?  30?

Less than dummies who will go towed for not knowing how to parallel park.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 12, 2015, 07:36:28 PM
Sexy
https://vine.co/v/iBu2hOi752e
What's the over/under on amount of cars this thing hits on the first month?  30?

Less than dummies who will go towed for not knowing how to parallel park.
Tow trucks will be busy every morning for awhile.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 13, 2015, 09:33:51 AM
The city council totally gave that petition the finger last night. Convention hotel is a go!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 13, 2015, 09:40:06 AM
The city council totally gave thier constituency and the city's charter the finger last night. Convention hotel is a go!
I fixed your post. 

Sidenote- as a small business owner who themselves was put in check by the city, I'm surprised at your position here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 13, 2015, 09:43:51 AM
The city council totally gave thier constituency and the city's charter the finger last night. Convention hotel is a go!
I fixed your post. 

Sidenote- as a small business owner who themselves was put in check by the city, I'm surprised at your position here.
How exactly was I put in check by the city?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 09:53:03 AM
clams  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on November 13, 2015, 11:29:01 AM
Don't you remember when your opening was delayed like a week? BOOM Checked! They showed you!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 13, 2015, 12:33:34 PM
ok maybe "put in check" was a bit strong, my point is that KCFD's life would have been a lot easier if he could operate w/o a liquor license, or HDA compliance, etc.  good thing for the hyatt investment group that the rules don't apply to them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 12:35:08 PM
what is HDA? do you mean ADA?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2015, 12:45:01 PM
I bet the hyatt will need a liquor license and to be Ada compliant
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 13, 2015, 12:46:34 PM
what is HDA? do you mean ADA?
ya that's it.
if i was a business owner who worked his ass off trying to tick and tie every box that KCMO asked me to and watched them blow by the rules for another business owner, i wouldn't be celebrating.  <-- my point

i've said all along that i'm pro hotel being built, just tired of sly's politics.
also -can't wait until the International Spring Quilt Market event hits KC in 2019.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
Mocat, would you like to go get pakked at the Hyatt when it's finished?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 12:54:50 PM
Mocat, would you like to go get pakked at the Hyatt when it's finished?

YES
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 12:55:48 PM
what is HDA? do you mean ADA?
ya that's it.
if i was a business owner who worked his ass off trying to tick and tie every box that KCMO asked me to and watched them blow by the rules for another business owner, i wouldn't be celebrating.  <-- my point

i've said all along that i'm pro hotel being built, just tired of sly's politics.
also -can't wait until the International Spring Quilt Market event hits KC in 2019.

what in the world makes you think it will not be ADA compliant?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 12:59:54 PM
sly james to hyatt architects: if the hallways are like 18" wide, no sweat. we won't mark it up during the plan review. also don't worry about ramps or handrails. eff it, don't even put an elevator in this SOB. long live sly!  :Hook'em:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 13, 2015, 01:04:16 PM
sly james to hyatt architects: if the hallways are like 18" wide, no sweat. we won't mark it up during the plan review. also don't worry about ramps or handrails. eff it, don't even put an elevator in this SOB. long live sly!  :Hook'em:

who knows if it will be or not, they've already ignored other rules so that they can get this SOB built. 
right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 01:04:45 PM
sly james to hyatt architects: honest question dipshits, why on earth would we need any handicapped parking spots when EVERYONE IS GOING TO ARRIVE VIA STREETCAR??
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 01:05:11 PM
sly james to hyatt architects: if the hallways are like 18" wide, no sweat. we won't mark it up during the plan review. also don't worry about ramps or handrails. eff it, don't even put an elevator in this SOB. long live sly!  :Hook'em:

who knows if it will be or not, they've already ignored other rules so that they can get this SOB built. 
right?

nah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2015, 01:06:55 PM
sly james to hyatt architects: honest question dipshits, why on earth would we need any handicapped parking spots when EVERYONE IS GOING TO ARRIVE VIA STREETCAR??

Just turn them all into the sly james family parking spots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 01:08:38 PM
sly james to hyatt architects: honest question dipshits, why on earth would we need any handicapped parking spots when EVERYONE IS GOING TO ARRIVE VIA STREETCAR??

Just turn them all into the sly james family parking spots

he announced a few weeks ago there will be a large commemorative boulder out front: sly and the family stone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 13, 2015, 01:24:36 PM
being more upset about the hyatt than the street car is about the dumbest thing ever imo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 13, 2015, 01:30:19 PM

sly james to hyatt architects: honest question dipshits, why on earth would we need any handicapped parking spots when EVERYONE IS GOING TO ARRIVE VIA STREETCAR??

Just turn them all into the sly james family parking spots

he announced a few weeks ago there will be a large commemorative boulder out front: sly and the family stone
You're going to have to do better than that If You Want Me to Stay at this new Hyatt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 13, 2015, 02:29:27 PM
being more upset about the hyatt than the street car is about the dumbest thing ever imo.
agreed, not sure there are many people that fit that descripto though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 13, 2015, 03:11:50 PM
ok maybe "put in check" was a bit strong, my point is that KCFD's life would have been a lot easier if he could operate w/o a liquor license, or HDA compliance, etc.  good thing for the hyatt investment group that the rules don't apply to them.

I guess I understand what you're trying to say. But a few things you're missing:
1. The City was fairly easy to work with (easiest of the three levels of gov I dealt with)
2. The biggest PITA was dealing with the crossroads assoc. the only reason I got past that was with help from the City
3. KCMO is not giving Hyatt a blank check and saying build whatever you want...they still have to follow the laws
4. Typically, a TIF of this size would not go to vote anyways, so why bitch about it?

My biggest beef with KCMO in my whole process was that their laws for liquor licensing are insane. Which is not Sly's fault, these have been in place since prohibition. literally unchanged. Essentially how it works, if you want to open a bar/restaurant/liquor store/anything the sells tobacco etc etc you have to get a neighborhood license. at least 51% of the building owners around you have to OK your plans with a signature. This is very detailed, want to put in a dart board? Signature. Have a dance floor? Signature. Outdoor Patio? Signature. It's a totally crazy process.

Now, In my case ONE person owns over 60% of the buildings around me. I had to convince this one guy (who doesn't drink, and hates any sort of night life) that my business is good for the area. He got to dictate what beer we can serve (only what we make), What hours we're open, what days we're open, if we can have a patio (we can't), how late our large roll-up doors can stay open, plus about 5 or 6 other things. Essentially he has more sway on my business than I do.

I don't mind the stipulation of having to get neighborhood approval. But, if you own more than one piece of property you should only be allowed one vote. The law makes it so larger land owners have more power.

TL;DR the KC liquor laws are weird AF.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 13, 2015, 03:46:43 PM
That's crazy. It seems like if it is a business zone then you should be able to run a business within the law. I mean I can see a problem if you tried to open a bar in a residential zone, but sheesh. (I know nothing about zoning.)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on November 13, 2015, 03:49:48 PM
That system sets up the ability to completely extort others.  Sounds just like kansas city from the prohibition era.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 03:59:18 PM
remember when somebody said the conventions would pay for this thing $0.03 at a time?  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2015, 04:31:51 PM
what is HDA? do you mean ADA?
ya that's it.
if i was a business owner who worked his ass off trying to tick and tie every box that KCMOevery municipality in the US asked me to and watched them blow by the rules for another business owner, i wouldn't be celebrating.  <-- my point


Fixed it...not a KCMO thing.

So why do we elect officials if we are just going to vote on every civic decision?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on November 13, 2015, 06:17:42 PM
remember when somebody said the conventions would pay for this thing $0.03 at a time?  :lol:

I thought it was a sales tax funded TIF. Turns out its tourism fees. Congrats on that win!

I think giving a hotel company/developer half of the cost of their hotel is ludicrous. Can't wait for those FFA and La Rasa convention sales tax windfalls though!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2015, 06:18:47 PM
HE'S STILL AT IT MOCAT  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on November 13, 2015, 06:26:01 PM
Guys, get everyone in here. Lib 7 cannot argue his head out of his ass and is gonna need help.

Yep, I think handing over half of a business's development costs to them is very Iowa state-y. OH YOU'LL COME TO OUR TOWN AND BUILD, MAYBE? HERE, HERE'S HALF OF YOUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2015, 06:30:57 PM
omg keep going  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2015, 06:59:55 PM
So angry.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2015, 07:04:02 PM
How much are they raising our taxes for this castle?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 13, 2015, 07:32:17 PM
ok maybe "put in check" was a bit strong, my point is that KCFD's life would have been a lot easier if he could operate w/o a liquor license, or HDA compliance, etc.  good thing for the hyatt investment group that the rules don't apply to them.

I guess I understand what you're trying to say. But a few things you're missing:
1. The City was fairly easy to work with (easiest of the three levels of gov I dealt with)
2. The biggest PITA was dealing with the crossroads assoc. the only reason I got past that was with help from the City
3. KCMO is not giving Hyatt a blank check and saying build whatever you want...they still have to follow the laws
4. Typically, a TIF of this size would not go to vote anyways, so why bitch about it?

My biggest beef with KCMO in my whole process was that their laws for liquor licensing are insane. Which is not Sly's fault, these have been in place since prohibition. literally unchanged. Essentially how it works, if you want to open a bar/restaurant/liquor store/anything the sells tobacco etc etc you have to get a neighborhood license. at least 51% of the building owners around you have to OK your plans with a signature. This is very detailed, want to put in a dart board? Signature. Have a dance floor? Signature. Outdoor Patio? Signature. It's a totally crazy process.

Now, In my case ONE person owns over 60% of the buildings around me. I had to convince this one guy (who doesn't drink, and hates any sort of night life) that my business is good for the area. He got to dictate what beer we can serve (only what we make), What hours we're open, what days we're open, if we can have a patio (we can't), how late our large roll-up doors can stay open, plus about 5 or 6 other things. Essentially he has more sway on my business than I do.

I don't mind the stipulation of having to get neighborhood approval. But, if you own more than one piece of property you should only be allowed one vote. The law makes it so larger land owners have more power.

TL;DR the KC liquor laws are weird AF.

'clams overall point, I think, is that its bullshit you have to deal with this, but places like P&L get to do whatever they want. I assure you those rules were waved for McFaddens
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PM
I would assume that the developer of P&L are in a similar sitch as that guy who owns 60% of the crossroad district. 

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 13, 2015, 07:40:01 PM
hey mcfaddens, i don't like tequila so you can't serve it! :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2015, 07:40:43 PM
I would assume that the developer of P&L are in a similar sitch as that guy who owns 60% of the crossroad district. 

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and all the neighbors probably love the crap out of P&L
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on November 13, 2015, 07:42:17 PM
I meant that I bet the P&L is deemed it's own district. 

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 14, 2015, 01:23:30 AM
I meant that I bet the P&L is deemed it's own district. 

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I don't know the details of p&l and I don't really care. I'm sure they had to get their signatures but I'm also they had their own advantages. It happens.

Larger companies get certain privileges.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2015, 10:38:37 PM
an urban farming project im interested in is going in at 29th & Wabash in KCMO, anyone drive by that area lately?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 15, 2015, 04:15:33 PM
an urban farming project im interested in is going in at 29th & Wabash in KCMO, anyone drive by that area lately?
The people that live in that neighborhood care about it. Sucks that there is violence there. But, it's much better now than it has been in the past.

I'm pretty sure there's just a big parking lot at 29th and Wabash...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 17, 2015, 11:27:49 AM
this won't get built but it is pretty sexy (46th between Wornall and Broadway)

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/bkac9c/picture45126030/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/plazahotel)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 17, 2015, 12:53:35 PM
very overland park-y-corporate woodish
the same idiot architects keep pumping out the same ugly crap around the plaza.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 22, 2015, 09:35:08 PM
Waks.... Eggtc moving into the neighborhood next to quaff
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 22, 2015, 09:57:49 PM

Waks.... Eggtc moving into the neighborhood next to quaff
IHOP pass on the space?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2015, 09:26:31 AM
Waks.... Eggtc moving into the neighborhood next to quaff

like, inside club 1000 or what
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 23, 2015, 09:29:06 AM
why would they move there? there's already a Denny's pretty close to that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2015, 09:29:51 AM
i don't think eggct and denny's cater to the same clientele
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 23, 2015, 09:30:41 AM
i don't think eggct and denny's caters to the same clientele

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 23, 2015, 10:02:09 AM
Waks.... Eggtc moving into the neighborhood next to quaff

like, inside club 1000 or what

Yeah that building. I assume same floor as tanners and club 1000 will continue in the above floors.

Its nothing too exciting but it's better than the event space there.... I've never eaten at one but I hear the plaza one is busy and they serve booze so welcome to the neighborhood!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2015, 10:04:07 AM
the 51st and main one is always prohibitively busy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 23, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
Eggtc is pretty awesome IMO.  good get for the neighborhood. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on November 23, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
My wife's aunt gave her a 200$ gift card to Piropos.

Is it any good?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on November 23, 2015, 10:38:36 AM
My wife's aunt gave her a 200$ gift card to Piropos.

Is it any good?
yes, it has always been great the times I have been.  I liked it best when they were still open in Parkville but the Briarcliff one is fine, the typical nice steakhouse experience you get at a place like J.Gilbert's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2015, 11:03:53 AM
yup, good steaks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on November 23, 2015, 12:36:06 PM
Has anyone ever used this? Decent selection of restaurants here. Anton's and Beignets to my door step could come in handy this winter.

https://postmates.com/kansas-city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 23, 2015, 01:49:28 PM
Has anyone ever used this? Decent selection of restaurants here. Anton's and Beignets to my door step could come in handy this winter.

https://postmates.com/kansas-city

Used it twice. It's awesome.... Quick and can track their moves like uber. They will pick up anything for you... If it's not on their list you just pick the place and put in a custom order. They do the rest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 23, 2015, 01:59:04 PM
I read someone was sueing them. Chipotle maybe?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
in n out is suing doordash

if i was a downtown kc elite, with your guys' walkability index, why the need for a delivery service?   :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 23, 2015, 02:35:31 PM
in n out is suing doordash

if i was a downtown kc elite, with your guys' walkability index, why the need for a delivery service?   :lol:

That's it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 23, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
in n out is suing doordash

if i was a downtown kc elite, with your guys' walkability index, why the need for a delivery service?   :lol:

Some times we like to slum it with your midtown food.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 24, 2015, 10:47:52 AM
https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/669194970134261760

Who robs a subway during breakfast hours?! smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on November 24, 2015, 12:13:47 PM

https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/669194970134261760

Who robs a subway during breakfast hours?! smdh
looks like an inside job


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 24, 2015, 02:02:52 PM
"Sketchy place in olathe"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 16, 2015, 09:16:18 AM
http://fox4kc.com/2015/12/16/major-sporting-event-coming-to-kansas-city/

who has the scoopz? And if you do, is it really "major" or just Sly talking up something kinda lame?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 16, 2015, 09:18:47 AM
NHL all star game
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on December 16, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
Maybe the Final Four or a regional championship, idk, just speculating. :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 16, 2015, 09:34:59 AM
So it involves Sprint Center and the Independece MO arena?

I guess they can install ice both places, but it seems odd if it's NHL that it requires 2 venues, they didn't in Nashville     http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=788532

My guess would be some sort of ag event, rodeo or the like.  That's KC-o.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 16, 2015, 09:38:31 AM
Maybe the Final Four or a regional championship, idk, just speculating. :dunno:

2017 regional is already public knowledge. Final Fours are in football stadiums (and larger cities + Indy)

NHL all star game

Scoop or guess? Would take.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 09:41:08 AM
NHL all star game
Probably the closest KC will ever get to having a pro team tenant in Sprint Center.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 16, 2015, 09:47:32 AM
Scoop or guess? Would take.

guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 16, 2015, 09:48:54 AM
but the fact that they're having reps from the independence events center makes me think it's hockey related. could be wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 16, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
Hockey is so lame. We already had Canadians visit Kansas City this year and they're lame as well.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2015, 09:53:35 AM
Hockey is fantastic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 16, 2015, 09:58:31 AM
Hockey is fantastic
Name me 5 current players, because I couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 16, 2015, 10:00:27 AM
Hockey is fantastic
Name me 5 current players, because I couldn't do it.

Bombay, Banks, Conway, The Cat, Averman
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 10:00:53 AM
Seems very dumb of the NHL to put the ASG in a city without a team. Would be the first time they've done it.

The NBA has only tried this once, and the game was in Vegas. KC is not Vegas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 16, 2015, 10:02:21 AM
yeah, guys, it's probably not the NHL all star game. i'm just brainstorming here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 16, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Very excited for the Hockeytown Boulevard Smokestack and impending mural on a building in the Crossroads  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:03:31 AM
You guys are getting thrown off by the independence thing. You know who loves the chiefs more than everybody else put together? Indepencians. This could be super bowl bros
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:04:26 AM
For lamar :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 16, 2015, 10:07:42 AM
Sprint Center would be a strange place to host a Super Bowl, but if anyone could do it, it's this city!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 16, 2015, 10:08:04 AM
probably just telling hotels and whatever to get ready for the 2016 World Series, which will be played right here in KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 16, 2015, 10:09:34 AM
Sprint Center would be a strange place to host a Super Bowl, but if anyone could do it, it's this city!

do they already have plans for like the USA figure skating championship for the next winter olympics? maybe its that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 10:09:40 AM
Probably something like the volleyball final 4 again. A pro sporting event announcement would have some national attention.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 16, 2015, 10:10:30 AM
is there a world cup for indoor soccer?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 16, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Sprint Center would be a strange place to host a Super Bowl, but if anyone could do it, it's this city!

do they already have plans for like the USA figure skating championship for the next winter olympics? maybe its that

http://www.2016uschampionships.com/

St. Paul
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 16, 2015, 10:12:44 AM
maybe 2018 though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 10:12:53 AM
My official guess is the Frozen Four.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 16, 2015, 10:13:04 AM
BASSMASTER classic!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 16, 2015, 10:14:36 AM
My official guess is the Frozen Four.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/ncaa/futuresites.php

Going to have to wait until 2019 if so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 16, 2015, 10:15:22 AM
Hockey is fantastic
Name me 5 current players, because I couldn't do it.

Bombay, Banks, Conway, The Cat, Averman

cake-eater
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 16, 2015, 10:15:54 AM
my official guess is strong man competition national finals
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 16, 2015, 10:16:13 AM
I bet it's a gun show
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 16, 2015, 10:16:59 AM
2020 Republican National Convention
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:17:58 AM
Sprint Center would be a strange place to host a Super Bowl, but if anyone could do it, it's this city!

Dont sleep on sly j
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 16, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
2020 Republican National Convention
Don't they have to bid for that? I thought they did for this year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:18:25 AM
2020 Republican National Convention


Thankz streetcar!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 16, 2015, 10:21:23 AM
2017 NRA Convention
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 10:21:46 AM
My official guess is the Frozen Four.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/ncaa/futuresites.php

Going to have to wait until 2019 if so
The Final Four has their sites determined thru '21. Announcing now makes sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 16, 2015, 10:22:31 AM
my official guess is strong man competition national finals

that mo-fo ain't ever leaving vegas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on December 16, 2015, 10:24:40 AM
My official guess is the Frozen Four.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/ncaa/futuresites.php

Going to have to wait until 2019 if so
The Final Four has their sites determined thru '21. Announcing now makes sense.

I've been sitting on this one for a long time you guys... it is the national figure skating championships!  WOOOO!

There may be a couple of actually exciting announcements in the next year though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 10:26:13 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html)

This article is two years old, but it sounds like Frozen Four or NCAA wrestling championships are possibilities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Jabeez on December 16, 2015, 10:27:31 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html)

This article is two years old, but it sounds like Frozen Four or NCAA wrestling championships are possibilities.

I'm serious, it's actually the figure skating championship. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on December 16, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
that dumbass Bob Fescoe was saying the other day that KC would have had the wrestling National championships for this year??, but they didn't like our airport, or something like that.  Then I turned back to 810 because I didn't want to miss Lezak's forecast.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 10:34:45 AM
To be fair, KCI is pretty damn awful in terms of location and amenities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 16, 2015, 10:41:10 AM
that dumbass Bob Fescoe was saying the other day that KC would have had the wrestling National championships for this year??, but they didn't like our airport, or something like that.  Then I turned back to 810 because I didn't want to miss Lezak's forecast.

was that rascal stormy up to no good again? bet he was
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2015, 10:43:22 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html)

This article is two years old, but it sounds like Frozen Four or NCAA wrestling championships are possibilities.

I'm serious, it's actually the figure skating championship.

Correct. Phil Titola family helped bring this HUGE event to you all... You are welcome.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on December 16, 2015, 10:44:39 AM
that dumbass Bob Fescoe was saying the other day that KC would have had the wrestling National championships for this year??, but they didn't like our airport, or something like that.  Then I turned back to 810 because I didn't want to miss Lezak's forecast.

was that rascal stormy up to no good again? bet he was

I don't know how to tell you this, but....stormy is dead Cartierfor3
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 16, 2015, 10:49:11 AM
that dumbass Bob Fescoe was saying the other day that KC would have had the wrestling National championships for this year??, but they didn't like our airport, or something like that.  Then I turned back to 810 because I didn't want to miss Lezak's forecast.

was that rascal stormy up to no good again? bet he was

I don't know how to tell you this, but....stormy is dead Cartierfor3

what about breezy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on December 16, 2015, 11:25:34 AM
that dumbass Bob Fescoe was saying the other day that KC would have had the wrestling National championships for this year??, but they didn't like our airport, or something like that.  Then I turned back to 810 because I didn't want to miss Lezak's forecast.

was that rascal stormy up to no good again? bet he was

I don't know how to tell you this, but....stormy is dead Cartierfor3

what about breezy

breezy and sunny are both doing well I think, not dead!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 16, 2015, 11:28:07 AM
RIP Stormy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 16, 2015, 01:30:54 PM
wow cartier thanks for bringing that up  :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 16, 2015, 01:54:58 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/30766170/police-investigate-apparent-suicide-involving-kcfd-firefighter-outside-station-17  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html)

This article is two years old, but it sounds like Frozen Four or NCAA wrestling championships are possibilities.

I'm serious, it's actually the figure skating championship.

Correct. Phil Titola family helped bring this HUGE event to you all... You are welcome.  :gocho:
:flush:

Seriously, WGAF about figure skating?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2015, 02:19:15 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html)

This article is two years old, but it sounds like Frozen Four or NCAA wrestling championships are possibilities.

I'm serious, it's actually the figure skating championship.

Correct. Phil Titola family helped bring this HUGE event to you all... You are welcome.  :gocho:
:flush:

Seriously, WGAF about figure skating?

Look who's too cool for school
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
Unless they are filming scenes for Blades of Glory 2 why would anyone go to that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on December 16, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
This hurts the image of Kansas City  :zzz:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 16, 2015, 02:45:50 PM
Wrestling Natty's would have been way more cool. PurpleBear4 and I would have organized a very fun PAK for that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2015, 02:59:10 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article327719/Kansas-City-bids-for-13-NCAA-championship-events.html)

This article is two years old, but it sounds like Frozen Four or NCAA wrestling championships are possibilities.

I'm serious, it's actually the figure skating championship.

Correct. Phil Titola family helped bring this HUGE event to you all... You are welcome.  :gocho:
:flush:

Seriously, WGAF about figure skating?

Be nice towniecat... IS is huge around here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 16, 2015, 03:00:46 PM
Figure Skating >Soccer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 03:12:48 PM
The only time figure skating has been the least bit interesting was when Tonya Harding's BF clubbed Nancy Kerrigan in the early 90s.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 16, 2015, 03:38:21 PM
you got something to say to my face townie?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2015, 03:56:00 PM
Maybe townie would be more into UFC championships?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on December 16, 2015, 04:11:30 PM
you got something to say to my face townie?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 16, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
I went ice skating at crown center like 4 years ago, didn't fall, so you could say I'm pretty good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 16, 2015, 09:01:33 PM
I went ice skating at crown center like 4 years ago, didn't fall, so you could say I'm pretty good

See you in the 2017 'ship at Sprint Center!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2015, 09:10:52 PM
just wait until the figure skating convention comes to pak at the hyatt  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on December 16, 2015, 09:19:21 PM
Wrestling ncaas were at kemper in like 2003. Last thing I ever went to there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:11:32 PM
just wait until the figure skating convention comes to pak at the hyatt  :love:


Omg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:12:12 PM
just wait until the figure skating convention comes to pak at the hyatt  :love:


Omg


More like thigh-att
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 16, 2015, 10:18:17 PM
You know tickets will be cheap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:29:20 PM
Did skating have a heyday in the 90s? Kwan, boitano, wow, i say yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:31:31 PM
crap, forgot about yamaguchi
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2015, 10:33:34 PM
My god, lipinski
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on December 17, 2015, 08:35:04 AM
Tell me what this Alamo Draft House is about. I have something called a 'gift card' there and I need to know if I should use it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 08:39:19 AM
Tell me what this Alamo Draft House is about. I have something called a 'gift card' there and I need to know if I should use it.
It's pretty neat, AJ. Cheaper than AMC, but the same premise. You write what you want on a piece of paper and they bring it to you. Food is comparable to Applebee prices and they have a full stocked bar. $2.75 PBR's! :fatty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on December 17, 2015, 08:47:02 AM
hey that sounds pretty neat. i enjoy beer and film.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 08:51:44 AM
Enjoy your flick!  :thumbs: I saw Creed there last week.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 17, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
Tell me what this Alamo Draft House is about. I have something called a 'gift card' there and I need to know if I should use it.

Omg I just gave one of my employees a Alamo gift card. Are you my employee????

Its a great theater. No kids. No talking or phone use or they will boot you. Good food. Good beer. Assigned seats. Funny clips prior to the previews that relate to the movie you are about to watch. Example... GI Joe movie showed old GI Joe cartoon and ads.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 17, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
i really like Drafthouse. it's dine-in so you have a person waiting on you throughout the movie, so you can binge if you're in the mood.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 11:39:39 AM
Ms. Wacky and I snuck in wine and vodka last weekend for some reason. I don't know why we were being cheap, but it was pretty convenient. I just ordered my coke and I was good to go.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 17, 2015, 11:40:48 AM
wine + coke =  :Yuck:
vodka + coke =  :Yuck:
coke =  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 17, 2015, 11:41:25 AM
wine + coke =  :Yuck:
vodka + coke =  :Yuck:
coke =  :Yuck:

Vodka and diet coke is my go to bar drink
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 11:42:12 AM
I mean, she didn't mix the wine with the coke. SHe ordered a glass of wine and then just kept topping it off, like she was barely drinking it.  :D Yeah, mine too lib^7.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 17, 2015, 11:42:29 AM
wine + coke =  :Yuck:
vodka + coke =  :Yuck:
coke =  :Yuck:

Vodka and diet coke is my go to bar drink

You don't seem like an anorexic tri delt to me?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on December 17, 2015, 11:43:05 AM
Captain is my go to movie sneak in booze
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on December 17, 2015, 11:43:12 AM
wine + coke =  :Yuck:
vodka + coke =  :Yuck:
coke =  :Yuck:

Vodka and diet coke is my go to bar drink

da fuq
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 17, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
wine + coke =  :Yuck:
vodka + coke =  :Yuck:
coke =  :Yuck:

Vodka and diet coke is my go to bar drink

that is disgusting. why are you so picky with your vodkas then?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 17, 2015, 11:43:43 AM
wine + coke =  :Yuck:
vodka + coke =  :Yuck:
coke =  :Yuck:

Vodka and diet coke is my go to bar drink

You don't seem like an anorexic tri delt to me?  :dunno:

Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 17, 2015, 11:43:53 AM
it's like you guys never heard of D effin P
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 11:44:42 AM
I'm more of a rum and diet guy, myself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on December 17, 2015, 11:45:55 AM
vodka is not to be mixed with a dark colored soda, not diet coke, not D to the effin P, not wild cherry pepsi.

complete lunatics
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 17, 2015, 11:46:59 AM
yes applejack. and to clarify, i was not suggesting vodka + D effin P
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 11:48:23 AM
vodka is not to be mixed with a dark colored soda, not diet coke, not D to the effin P, not wild cherry pepsi.

complete lunatics
Yeah, but when you're at a theater, what do you order to mix it with, without tipping it off?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 17, 2015, 11:50:08 AM
It's good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on December 17, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
vodka is not to be mixed with a dark colored soda, not diet coke, not D to the effin P, not wild cherry pepsi.

complete lunatics
Yeah, but when you're at a theater, what do you order to mix it with, without tipping it off?

sprite or in a pinch sierra mist or some crap, even water.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 17, 2015, 11:51:15 AM
i dont feel the need to pak and watch a movie at a theater.

maybe if it were a movie i was seeing in my living room for the 8th time, but first time in theater? i wanna pay attention.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 17, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Except at the sharks arena their well vodka is grey goose  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 17, 2015, 11:54:19 AM
i dont feel the need to pak and watch a movie at a theater.

maybe if it were a movie i was seeing in my living room for the 8th time, but first time in theater? i wanna pay attention.

Yeah, same. There are some peds that enhance focus and are great for movie theaters tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 17, 2015, 11:58:47 AM
i just use my normal brain but i dont blame you for how you watch movies, lib.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 17, 2015, 12:07:02 PM
one of the great townie high school traditions was to get completely bombed and go to carmike midnight movie premieres, which is an incredibly stupid thing to do but also kind of a fun thing to do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 17, 2015, 01:10:41 PM
i just use my normal brain but i dont blame you for how you watch movies, lib.

normal brains aren't interesting. (actually mine scares me)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 17, 2015, 01:20:42 PM
vodka is not to be mixed with a dark colored soda, not diet coke, not D to the effin P, not wild cherry pepsi.

complete lunatics
Yeah, but when you're at a theater, what do you order to mix it with, without tipping it off?

sprite or in a pinch sierra mist or some crap, even water.
Yeah, that's just a lot of sugar for me. I'm all about keeping this super model body.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 17, 2015, 01:53:59 PM
Anticipated grand opening for the streetcar is April with possibility of a soft opening in March (assuming to do Phillips 66 tourney stuff)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 19, 2016, 09:20:49 AM
Ms. wacky and I recently joined One life fitness downtown and it's just as incredibly douchey as you would expect and we love it! They have a mini theater where you can run and watch a movie. Basketball court, access to what use to be The Jones (Super douche) and everything else you could imagine. We also get discounts to like almost every restaurant downtown. I wish it was around when I was single.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 19, 2016, 09:29:17 AM
I didn't know about the restaurant discount. Where is that list?

One life didn't seem that douchey too me... I just assumed all gyms were like that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 19, 2016, 09:30:50 AM
I didn't know about the restaurant discount. Where is that list?

One life didn't seem that douchey too me... I just assumed all gyms were like that
I guess it's not that douchey, but a lot of young ppl who are super into themselves. Also, the pool will be great ppl watching. They have a list of places you can use it to.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on January 19, 2016, 10:00:24 AM
Got a groupon for a brewery tour in February


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on January 21, 2016, 02:45:14 PM
omg omg omg

http://www.kansascity.com/living/home-garden/article55808165.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2016, 02:56:33 PM
Baylor fans


Sabrina Soto was the best guest that has done our home and garden show
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2016, 04:09:18 PM
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/690293906160947200

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2016, 04:14:45 PM
Never mind. I thought those were 'clams's for a sec.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2016, 04:31:58 PM
those are the apts on summit
completely trashed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
Gotcha. They looked familiar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on January 21, 2016, 06:57:24 PM
Some hipster girl on my facebook was promoting a petition to save those awful apartments a while back. What an idiot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2016, 07:09:43 PM
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/690293906160947200

 :sdeek:

Far from beyond repair though. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Some hipster girl on my facebook was promoting a petition to save those awful apartments a while back. What an idiot

 :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 21, 2016, 07:12:40 PM
i'm with phil the hipster, save 'em!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2016, 07:36:22 PM
There have been a ton of buildings in this city in way worse shape that have been saved. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 21, 2016, 07:58:08 PM
My Flying Spaghetti Monster, those are absolutely salvageable in every way.   

Ah well, just making room for another SoDoSoPa 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miXMWJyOdgw



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 21, 2016, 08:01:24 PM
Got a groupon for a brewery tour in February


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Barley bus?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on January 22, 2016, 08:21:36 AM
Thinking about going to the KC Brew Fest at the end of February in Union Station. Did anyone go last year? If so, how was it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on January 22, 2016, 11:38:59 AM
Got a groupon for a brewery tour in February


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Barley bus?

is that the one that you are on?  if so YES, can't wait.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2016, 11:50:45 AM
Some hipster girl on my facebook was promoting a petition to save those awful apartments a while back. What an idiot

i agree, they could be made into a wonderful parking lot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2016, 11:52:34 AM
I'm pretty sure this goes here too:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZVe3b9WYAEG51Y.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2016, 11:53:45 AM
i absolutely hate this person (irrationally)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on January 22, 2016, 11:58:50 AM
the old jean jacket blazer look.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 22, 2016, 12:34:13 PM
Gross, who is that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 22, 2016, 12:35:28 PM
New royals beat writer. Rustin Dodd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 22, 2016, 12:36:18 PM
i want to punch him. i want to punch him in his face.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on January 22, 2016, 01:12:26 PM
Perfect choice for dorks that can't afford Royals gear and wear squawk stuff to the K
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 22, 2016, 01:31:47 PM
triedstohardtobeedgyroyalsbeatreporterhawk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on January 22, 2016, 01:37:11 PM
Maybe he'll tweet video of the Kauffman crowd before games


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 22, 2016, 01:43:34 PM
I kind of feel bad though because all that work into the outfit and hair and 36 hour facial hair growth and he tied his tie like a 15 yr old highschool jv wrestler the friday before the concordia tournament.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 22, 2016, 02:03:43 PM
I apparently need to pay more attention to my tie knots.  Heretofore I've focused too much of the attention on tie length (tip even with bottom of belt buckle).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 22, 2016, 02:09:46 PM
I honestly don't think I've worn a tie since high school football (stayed tied all year)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 22, 2016, 02:11:20 PM
Weddings or funerals?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 22, 2016, 02:13:14 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 22, 2016, 02:14:49 PM
rough ridin' millennial.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 22, 2016, 04:45:21 PM
Got a groupon for a brewery tour in February


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Barley bus?

is that the one that you are on?  if so YES, can't wait.
Sweet!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 22, 2016, 05:20:51 PM
the no smile weird smirk is bothering me irrationally
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 24, 2016, 08:42:02 PM
FYI for those in midtown, a streetcar extension vote is being organized.  Get your neighbors together and spread the good word.  The vote will (most likely) be for a TDD along each side of Main Street up to 1/2 mile on either side of Main ending at UMKC.  For comparison, the TDD for the downtown line added around $250 to my property tax bill per year....I'd think they are aiming for a similar cost for residential homeowners in midtown. 

Good information here:
http://nextrailkc.com/main-street/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 24, 2016, 11:12:12 PM
What a cop out by the Star
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 25, 2016, 08:25:16 AM
FYI for those in midtown, a streetcar extension vote is being organized.  Get your neighbors together and spread the good word.  The vote will (most likely) be for a TDD along each side of Main Street up to 1/2 mile on either side of Main ending at UMKC.  For comparison, the TDD for the downtown line added around $250 to my property tax bill per year....I'd think they are aiming for a similar cost for residential homeowners in midtown. 

Good information here:
http://nextrailkc.com/main-street/

while they were testing it yesterday, a lady in the streetcar waved at me and ms. blast. it made me smile.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 29, 2016, 10:45:37 AM
Question for future streetcar riders

Would you expect it to stop at every stop or that you would have to request a stop when riding? (obv would stop for you if you were waiting on the platform.)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 29, 2016, 11:01:16 AM
question for future streetcar riders-

why didnt you just walk the mile?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 29, 2016, 11:02:18 AM
Phil do you have your nest egg tied up in street car stock or something?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 29, 2016, 11:05:07 AM
Phil do you have your nest egg tied up in street car stock or something?

Nothing except my property tax increase.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 29, 2016, 11:18:19 AM
Interesting question, Phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 29, 2016, 11:18:58 AM
I probably will never use it until it's extended to waldo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on January 29, 2016, 11:29:21 AM
It should swing out to Overland Park and the The K.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 29, 2016, 11:30:03 AM
This has gone as expected.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 29, 2016, 11:33:55 AM
Question for future streetcar riders

Would you expect it to stop at every stop or that you would have to request a stop when riding? (obv would stop for you if you were waiting on the platform.)

i don't really have a stake, but requesting a stop seems like the smart way to operate it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 29, 2016, 12:43:44 PM
man i cant
Phil do you have your nest egg tied up in street car stock or something?
:lol:
yes
i
think
he
may
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 29, 2016, 01:10:06 PM
Civic interest only sirs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 29, 2016, 01:12:20 PM
phil, are you still going to feel interested when your extra $250 is really just a moving jerkoff station?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 29, 2016, 01:12:53 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 29, 2016, 01:15:55 PM
phil, are you still going to feel interested when your extra $250 is really just a moving jerkoff station?

Yes. You are welcome btw.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 29, 2016, 02:32:40 PM
check out the joco residents making fun of the streetcar  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 29, 2016, 02:33:11 PM
it will most likely work just like the MAX or any other bus. stop if someone requests a stop or if someone is waiting would be my guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 29, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
it will most likely work just like the MAX or any other bus. stop if someone requests a stop or if someone is waiting would be my guess

Streetcar authority is trying to decide which way to go right now... So thought I'd ask Joe q.  Public their expectations. Most streetcar lines are request stop only.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 29, 2016, 02:51:59 PM
another option would be to plow through all the stops at full speed and see how far south they could get
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 29, 2016, 02:53:02 PM
I'll just stick with uber.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 29, 2016, 02:56:38 PM
another option would be to plow through all the stops at full speed and see how far south they could get

i mean once they get past liberty memorial they can just coast all the way to midtown where hordes of people would want to use this mofo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 29, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
I'll just stick with uber. Ztrip
:kstategrad:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 29, 2016, 04:25:37 PM
at this point, im not rooting for the street car to fail but im really looking forward to saying "told ya so" to all the idiots that think this is a good way to spend money
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 29, 2016, 04:30:20 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on January 29, 2016, 04:31:20 PM
streetards? :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 29, 2016, 06:59:54 PM
at this point, im not rooting for the street car to fail but im really looking forward to saying "told ya so" to all the idiots that think this is a good way to spend money

I look forward to your op-ed piece on improving the city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on January 29, 2016, 07:09:37 PM
kick his ass phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 31, 2016, 06:35:19 PM
your fav KC brewery to add food in March!  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 31, 2016, 06:37:50 PM
Mozzarella sticks?  Nachos?  Give us the deets man!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 31, 2016, 06:51:33 PM
asked a friend who's home and work  literally have the streetcar tracks outside their front door if she was excited for the streetcar and she gave me this look like a was a rough ridin' idiot and said "no, why would i be".  when i mentioned proximity to home and work she was like "so what, i can walk or drive already"

starting to think this thing might be a flop :frown:

(i'm still hoping for a success tho phil  :emawkid: )
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 31, 2016, 06:54:21 PM
your fav KC brewery to add food in March!  :Wha:

Stopped in this afternoon...great as always.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 31, 2016, 06:57:44 PM
Mozzarella sticks?  Nachos?  Give us the deets man!
Charcuterie (from local pig) & pretzels to start.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 31, 2016, 06:58:06 PM
asked a friend who's home and work  literally have the streetcar tracks outside their front door if she was excited for the streetcar and she gave me this look like a was a rough ridin' idiot and said "no, why would i be".  when i mentioned proximity to home and work she was like "so what, i can walk or drive already"

starting to think this thing might be a flop :frown:

(i'm still hoping for a success tho phil  :emawkid: )
Your friend seems kinda dumb. No  offense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 31, 2016, 07:00:27 PM
i know!  it was pretty wtfy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 31, 2016, 07:01:16 PM
asked a friend who's home and work  literally have the streetcar tracks outside their front door if she was excited for the streetcar and she gave me this look like a was a rough ridin' idiot and said "no, why would i be".  when i mentioned proximity to home and work she was like "so what, i can walk or drive already"

starting to think this thing might be a flop :frown:

(i'm still hoping for a success tho phil  :emawkid: )

She'll come around.  I'm one who will probably walk the route more than jump on the streetcar for the same distance but can still see the the benefits.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 31, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
i know!  it was pretty wtfy.

lots of my friends live in rivermarket. every time they're at the brewery they're like "man parking sucks" and I'm all "betcha can't wait for that streetcar" and they're all "nah" and I'm all  :confused: :confused: :confused:

I think people that live there will use it way more than they think, it just takes time to adjust to a new kind of transportation. Also, am excited to hear plans for taking it to the plaza. I really think that's the minimum to make the whole system work the way it's supposed to.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 31, 2016, 07:28:00 PM
i know!  it was pretty wtfy.

lots of my friends live in rivermarket. every time they're at the brewery they're like "man parking sucks" and I'm all "betcha can't wait for that streetcar" and they're all "nah" and I'm all  :confused: :confused: :confused:

KC residents are dumbasses about parking...I've never driven to DS but walking there, there is open parking everywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 31, 2016, 07:33:27 PM
i know!  it was pretty wtfy.

lots of my friends live in rivermarket. every time they're at the brewery they're like "man parking sucks" and I'm all "betcha can't wait for that streetcar" and they're all "nah" and I'm all  :confused: :confused: :confused:

KC residents are dumbasses about parking...I've never driven to DS but walking there, there is open parking everywhere.

too true. if you can't park out front there's no point in going. -all of KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 31, 2016, 07:50:44 PM
Mass transit is soooo big city, that's why KC folks have trouble with it.   Plus all the white flight 'burb raised kiddos now trying to hipster it up in hipster land.   

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 31, 2016, 08:16:59 PM
dax, do you live in the suburbs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 31, 2016, 08:23:27 PM
dax, do you live in the suburbs?

I guess.    :dunno:   

Why, weirdo?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 31, 2016, 08:26:49 PM
just wondering, you seem like a white flight suburban type
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 31, 2016, 08:28:42 PM
just wondering, you seem like a white flight suburban type

I think I've already covered this elsewhere, weirdo.

Not a lot of "white flight" around here.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on January 31, 2016, 09:45:19 PM
Dax can literally nickname anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 31, 2016, 10:51:30 PM
Dax can literally nickname anything.

Oh shut up Mr. Mcfuzzy Slippers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on January 31, 2016, 11:40:04 PM
Mozzarella sticks?  Nachos?  Give us the deets man!
Charcuterie (from local pig) & pretzels to start.

mmmm pate and beer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Boom Roasted on February 01, 2016, 09:47:31 AM
I think it should stop when requested. Food options are awesome. If it goes to plaza that will be good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 01, 2016, 09:54:43 AM
Mozzarella sticks?  Nachos?  Give us the deets man!
Charcuterie (from local pig) & pretzels to start.

Aren't you guys already doing this?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 01, 2016, 09:57:10 AM
Mozzarella sticks?  Nachos?  Give us the deets man!
Charcuterie (from local pig) & pretzels to start.

Aren't you guys already doing this?
No?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 01, 2016, 10:10:35 AM
Mozzarella sticks?  Nachos?  Give us the deets man!
Charcuterie (from local pig) & pretzels to start.

Aren't you guys already doing this?
No?

http://kcbier.com/tasting-room-biergarten/ ??

Large Charcuterie Plate   $18.95
Imported Bavarian Pretzel (w/ mustard or butter)   $2.75
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 01, 2016, 10:11:09 AM
Mozzarella sticks?  Nachos?  Give us the deets man!
Charcuterie (from local pig) & pretzels to start.

Aren't you guys already doing this?
No?

http://kcbier.com/tasting-room-biergarten/ ??

Large Charcuterie Plate   $18.95
Imported Bavarian Pretzel (w/ mustard or butter)   $2.75
I mean, that's not my brewery.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 01, 2016, 10:11:53 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 01, 2016, 10:12:09 AM
Mozzarella sticks?  Nachos?  Give us the deets man!
Charcuterie (from local pig) & pretzels to start.

Aren't you guys already doing this?
No?

http://kcbier.com/tasting-room-biergarten/ ??

Large Charcuterie Plate   $18.95
Imported Bavarian Pretzel (w/ mustard or butter)   $2.75
I mean, that's not my brewery.

Goddamnit which is yours?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 01, 2016, 10:12:48 AM

www.doubleshiftbrewing.com (http://www.doubleshiftbrewing.com)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 01, 2016, 10:12:57 AM
omg emo  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 01, 2016, 10:14:22 AM
"im here from the internet, is firefighter bro working?"

random dude: :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 01, 2016, 10:15:11 AM
"im here from the internet, is firefighter bro working?"

random dude: :confused:
You'd be amazed by the amount of people that ask this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 01, 2016, 10:15:48 AM
 :lol: I asked it.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 01, 2016, 10:16:09 AM
also amazed: kc bier co :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 01, 2016, 10:17:07 AM
i have brought people to double shift and i'm all

"yeah i sort of know the guy who owns this place"
"what's his name?"
"kcfd cat"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 01, 2016, 10:17:55 AM
Well the good news is there is a whole crap ton of beer I've yet to drink and review on Untappd. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 01, 2016, 10:21:33 AM
i have brought people to double shift and i'm all

"yeah i sort of know the guy who owns this place"
"what's his name?"
"kcfd cat"
This made me lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 01, 2016, 10:48:24 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 01, 2016, 10:50:37 AM
Well the good news is there is a whole crap ton of beer I've yet to drink and review on Untappd.

Ugh, this is awful timing for this revelation as I am just starting phase two of my BTTW workout routine. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 01, 2016, 11:29:09 AM
i have brought people to double shift and i'm all

"yeah i sort of know the guy who owns this place"
"what's his name?"
"kcfd cat"

Can confirm this is fun to say to people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 01, 2016, 11:40:04 AM
Kc, can I bring my own growler and buy your beer?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 01, 2016, 12:30:17 PM
Kc, can I bring my own growler and buy your beer?


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Yes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 01, 2016, 12:55:52 PM
I believe my hotel for the Big 12 tourney is not too far from your place KCFDcat, will have to get the crew to slide in at some point. Look forward to it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 01, 2016, 12:57:07 PM
I believe my hotel for the Big 12 tourney is not too far from your place KCFDcat, will have to get the crew to slide in at some point. Look forward to it.

As it appears the tourney itself is as well.....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 01, 2016, 06:58:58 PM
I believe my hotel for the Big 12 tourney is not too far from your place KCFDcat, will have to get the crew to slide in at some point. Look forward to it.

As it appears the tourney itself is as well.....
Yes the sprint center is only like 5 blocks away
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 01, 2016, 07:07:39 PM
You fill my growlers?! :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 01, 2016, 07:28:45 PM
i refuse to go to this brewery until they brew a malt liquor.  obvs my favorite is Crooked I but they're all great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 01, 2016, 07:56:12 PM
Crooked I is a rapper
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 01, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
he stole the name from the nickname for st ides malt liquor
(http://www.jandlventuresllc.com/upload/Brands/st-ides-premium-malt-liquor_Med.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 03, 2016, 12:44:22 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article58030183.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article58030183.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 03, 2016, 12:52:11 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article58030183.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article58030183.html)

whenever I hear concessions and shopping options as a reason to renovate the airport I have a hard time taking it seriously.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 01:26:23 PM
It's not the primary reason. It's a nice amenity side benefit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 03, 2016, 01:32:24 PM
i don't really care about the airport other than how quick i can get from my car to the gate, and that's usually pretty quick.

but those terminals are embarrassingly small, can get annoyingly crowded, and if you're hungry or have to use the bathroom, good luck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 01:38:29 PM
Airlines drive this process as they are the customers who pay the airport to use it... They want the lowest cost option which is a new terminal... That also solves many of their current and future operating issues.

But townies will townie.... And since bonds are voted on by citizens, expect quite a fun campaign on this thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 03, 2016, 01:44:25 PM
Seems like the lowest cost would be to do nothing. 

No matter what we do, no airline is making us a hub and anyone doing biz now will keep doing biz until no one from KC wants to travel to the places that airline serves. 

Also, if the city is down to spend a billion dollars, maybe tackle some sewer issues?  Whats the differed maint up to on that?  $4B?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 03, 2016, 01:48:55 PM
We should market it like the way Allen Field House or Wrigley Field is. Call it the "Friendly Confines"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 03, 2016, 01:57:53 PM
as soon as airlines start leaving, i'm down to build a new airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
Seems like the lowest cost would be to do nothing. 

No matter what we do, no airline is making us a hub and anyone doing biz now will keep doing biz until no one from KC wants to travel to the places that airline serves. 

Also, if the city is down to spend a billion dollars, maybe tackle some sewer issues?  Whats the differed maint up to on that?  $4B?

Doing nothing is not an option from the city or airline side. The building itself is in need of major repairs and half assed renovations (like we did a decade? ago) are not on the table.

By law, the money raised at the airport is from airport income/fees only and can only be spent on airport items. Money spent at the airport for anything isn't taking away money from schools or Sewers or whsevs

Also sewers are already being addressed and are in year 5 of a 25 year plan.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 02:09:14 PM
as soon as airlines start leaving, i'm down to build a new airport

Why plan ahead for things we can panic and fix later!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 03, 2016, 02:12:03 PM
what major repairs does the building itself need?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 02:18:17 PM
It's been in past airport stories... Basically the building is falling down?

Guess the key for me is that the airlines (who pay the fees) have studied this along with city experts and came out and said major work needs done, doing nothing isn't an option, and they prefer a new terminal vs. Trying to make renovations work which won't fix everything and will cost more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 03, 2016, 02:20:29 PM
i don't really care about the airport other than how quick i can get from my car to the gate, and that's usually pretty quick.

but those terminals are embarrassingly small, can get annoyingly crowded, and if you're hungry or have to use the bathroom, good luck.

i've never had a problem using the restroom and not sure why i would leave home, drive to the airport passing much better food options, and decide to eat at the airport.  however, i did get a bagel once at starbucks at mci, took 30 secs to process the transaction.

as far as who is paying for it, ultimately, this thing's costs will be underwritten through increased ticket fees.  and since kansas citians are the primary users of kansas city's airport, its residents and businesses will pay for it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 03, 2016, 02:21:13 PM
oh get out of here with "the airlines will pay for it".

that just means people buying airfare out of kc will pay for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 03, 2016, 02:21:52 PM
It's been in past airport stories... Basically the building is falling down?

Guess the key for me is that the airlines (who pay the fees) have studied this along with city experts and came out and said major work needs done, doing nothing isn't an option, and they prefer a new terminal vs. Trying to make renovations work which won't fix everything and will cost more.

ask yourself why the airlines support building a new mci airport terminal?  or care at all what happens at mci? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 03, 2016, 02:22:48 PM
Basically the building is falling down?

You guys think it'll still be standing in March? or should I change my flight to MHK and catch a ride to the Big 12 tourney to be safe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 02:24:22 PM
It's been in past airport stories... Basically the building is falling down?

Guess the key for me is that the airlines (who pay the fees) have studied this along with city experts and came out and said major work needs done, doing nothing isn't an option, and they prefer a new terminal vs. Trying to make renovations work which won't fix everything and will cost more.

ask yourself why the airlines support building a new mci airport terminal?  or care at all what happens at mci?

I'm all ears. Airlines are about keeping their fees low... In that vein they would want to do nothing first.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
i don't really care about the airport other than how quick i can get from my car to the gate, and that's usually pretty quick.

but those terminals are embarrassingly small, can get annoyingly crowded, and if you're hungry or have to use the bathroom, good luck.

i've never had a problem using the restroom and not sure why i would leave home, drive to the airport passing much better food options, and decide to eat at the airport.  however, i did get a bagel once at starbucks at mci, took 30 secs to process the transaction.

as far as who is paying for it, ultimately, this thing's costs will be underwritten through increased ticket fees.  and since kansas citians are the primary users of kansas city's airport, its residents and businesses will pay for it.

Businesses account for like 70 percent of tickets sold I think I saw... The chamber has came out in favor of a new terminal knowing that may increase ticket prices.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 03, 2016, 02:30:34 PM
It's been in past airport stories... Basically the building is falling down?

Guess the key for me is that the airlines (who pay the fees) have studied this along with city experts and came out and said major work needs done, doing nothing isn't an option, and they prefer a new terminal vs. Trying to make renovations work which won't fix everything and will cost more.

the airlines have done structural analysis on MCI and have a list of things that need to be fixed?  interesting, i'd like to see the analysis and detailed plans.  but i can't because they don't exist.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 02:35:03 PM
February 16th the airport committee will get more details on the cost of everything that needs fixed/renovated I just read.

Id be interested in info on how much terminal improvements impact ticket prices in places like Austin, indy, Wichita. Lot of factors impact that cost.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 02:37:54 PM
It's been in past airport stories... Basically the building is falling down?

Guess the key for me is that the airlines (who pay the fees) have studied this along with city experts and came out and said major work needs done, doing nothing isn't an option, and they prefer a new terminal vs. Trying to make renovations work which won't fix everything and will cost more.

the airlines have done structural analysis on MCI and have a list of things that need to be fixed?  interesting, i'd like to see the analysis and detailed plans.  but i can't because they don't exist.

Through their work with their consultants and airport officials.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 03, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
What can we do to become a hub? If it's impossible then we shouldn't bother investing money in it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 03, 2016, 02:51:51 PM
What can we do to become a hub? If it's impossible then we shouldn't bother investing money in it.
nothing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 03, 2016, 04:35:05 PM
Basically the building is falling down?

You guys think it'll still be standing in March? or should I change my flight to MHK and catch a ride to the Big 12 tourney to be safe.

Yes. This is the same line of reasoning Bob Gretz used when the Chiefs Royals upgrades came up. "The plumbing doesn't work."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 03, 2016, 04:52:09 PM
the big bitch about KCI from the powers that be and "seasoned travelers" is that you can't have centralized security with everything on the secure side the way it's setup, so amenities are scarce.    Frankly I don't care since I don't have layovers there, but I suppose it sucks for people that do.   I lovve walking right in and going to the gate.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 05:04:51 PM
the big bitch about KCI from the powers that be and "seasoned travelers" is that you can't have centralized security with everything on the secure side the way it's setup, so amenities are scarce.    Frankly I don't care since I don't have layovers there, but I suppose it sucks for people that do.   I lovve walking right in and going to the gate.

Well that amenity is going away with any renovation as TSA will mandate a change to centralized security to better secure the flight side and all the 23 proposals do away with the distributed security....and nothing says a new terminal is going to extend your walk that much...it's not like they will tear down the old terminal and build ATL or LHR in it's place.

Change is coming, time to embrace it and ensure we get the best we can.

Good dummies video
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article58030183.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 03, 2016, 05:24:36 PM
the big bitch about KCI from the powers that be and "seasoned travelers" is that you can't have centralized security with everything on the secure side the way it's setup, so amenities are scarce.    Frankly I don't care since I don't have layovers there, but I suppose it sucks for people that do.   I lovve walking right in and going to the gate.



again, if i'm footing the bill for a $1.5B airport, it needs to benefit me and nothing discussed is of any benefit to me so no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 03, 2016, 05:36:35 PM
the big bitch about KCI from the powers that be and "seasoned travelers" is that you can't have centralized security with everything on the secure side the way it's setup, so amenities are scarce.    Frankly I don't care since I don't have layovers there, but I suppose it sucks for people that do.   I lovve walking right in and going to the gate.



again, if i'm footing the bill for a $1.5B airport, it needs to benefit me and nothing discussed is of any benefit to me so no

ehh, we still pay the fees through PFCs and airline spreading their costs throughout their system.  I've tried to find any stories from cities getting new terminals tying it to higher flight costs....can't find a one.

Airlines are the ones most concerned about a terminal raising their costs even speaking out against a new terminal in 2014...now they are advocating for a new terminal...think they forgot about their fees?  Maybe they getting a nicer cut of other fees like parking and restaurants in the new terminal which keeps their fees at a current level?  No idea.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 04, 2016, 12:30:17 AM
I looked at a house to rent today by umkc. It didn't really work for me, so as I was leaving the leasing agent guy or whatever that was showing it decided to give me the advice that "as you go west prices are going to go up, East of here well, it gets a little dark" I gave him a look and was like wtf and he's like "you know, it just gets a little dicey"

Good grief
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 04, 2016, 07:46:10 AM
The airport change has been the worst framed discussion in recent history.  Everything you hear on news radio is all about shops and food.  No one lays over in kc.  No one thinks about how they wish they could hang around kc before or after a flight.  I mean, double the starbucks and things would be perfect.

I have never been to an easier airport that wasn't some two gate puddle jumper joint.  We are about to get in our own way, I have a feeling.

No one is adding or subtracting flights based off security ease or wing joints.

Also, that building is solid concrete.  Unless the concern is falsely framed around how much it would suck to move plumbing for more bathrooms we don't need, we could do nothing and it would last longer than most buildings in the city.
 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 04, 2016, 08:11:28 AM
I assume there will be a lot better info coming along as details get worked out and a vote on the bond issuance approaches  .... But it seems only the ones who don't want any change are making this about amenities in an attempt to discredit the need for a change at KCI.

I'm no construction engineer type nor have I seen the conditions below the surface. Ill take the word of the experts who have.

.. And yes no airline is going to promise new flights nor threaten reduction of flights... But they have said that the current design makes it difficult for them to maneuver bigger planes around the tarmac...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 04, 2016, 09:30:08 AM
One time in Indianapolis I was to my gate 14 minutes after I dropped of my rental car. 

Not sure if that's relevant but wanted to drop that in there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 04, 2016, 09:44:19 AM
I assume there will be a lot better info coming along as details get worked out and a vote on the bond issuance approaches  .... But it seems only the ones who don't want any change are making this about amenities in an attempt to discredit the need for a change at KCI.

I'm no construction engineer type nor have I seen the conditions below the surface. Ill take the word of the experts who have.

.. And yes no airline is going to promise new flights nor threaten reduction of flights... But they have said that the current design makes it difficult for them to maneuver bigger planes around the tarmac...

I would love more info.  However the note about those opposing being the ones framing it around amenities isn't accurate.  That is something I have heard every single time it is brought up on news radio in KC.  Maybe that is a failing of the person giving the pitch.  Maybe they think that KC'ers are simple enough that they think it can be sold by promise of more booze and cheap grease option?  Whatever the motive, that is def how it has been pitched by those for it so far in the media I consume.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 04, 2016, 09:48:56 AM
I looked at a house to rent today by umkc. It didn't really work for me, so as I was leaving the leasing agent guy or whatever that was showing it decided to give me the advice that "as you go west prices are going to go up, East of here well, it gets a little dark" I gave him a look and was like wtf and he's like "you know, it just gets a little dicey"

Good grief


Dont get me started. And don't listen to that moron.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 04, 2016, 09:50:16 AM
I posted it specifically for you mocat!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 04, 2016, 10:12:13 AM
Maybe he was talking about crime rates? 

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mo/kansas-city/crime/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 04, 2016, 10:14:01 AM
One time in Indianapolis I was to my gate 14 minutes after I dropped of my rental car. 

Not sure if that's relevant but wanted to drop that in there.

That would be impossible in "super convenient"   KCI.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 04, 2016, 10:15:00 AM
One time in Indianapolis I was to my gate 14 minutes after I dropped of my rental car. 

Not sure if that's relevant but wanted to drop that in there.

That would be impossible in "super convenient"   KCI.

I think you're probably right.  Indy had centralized security, BTW.  Also, I think Indy has a serious infatuation with speed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 04, 2016, 10:16:27 AM
I assume there will be a lot better info coming along as details get worked out and a vote on the bond issuance approaches  .... But it seems only the ones who don't want any change are making this about amenities in an attempt to discredit the need for a change at KCI.

I'm no construction engineer type nor have I seen the conditions below the surface. Ill take the word of the experts who have.

.. And yes no airline is going to promise new flights nor threaten reduction of flights... But they have said that the current design makes it difficult for them to maneuver bigger planes around the tarmac...

I would love more info.  However the note about those opposing being the ones framing it around amenities isn't accurate.  That is something I have heard every single time it is brought up on news radio in KC.  Maybe that is a failing of the person giving the pitch.  Maybe they think that KC'ers are simple enough that they think it can be sold by promise of more booze and cheap grease option?  Whatever the motive, that is def how it has been pitched by those for it so far in the media I consume.

Who is saying this in the media. Name names!!!

IMO thsts more a reflection of our soundbite media than the actual promoters of a new terminal. I'm all in on a new terminal and I couldn't care less if there is a chili's to go on the flight side. FlyKCI.Com has a lot of info.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 04, 2016, 10:16:41 AM
I looked at a house to rent today by umkc. It didn't really work for me, so as I was leaving the leasing agent guy or whatever that was showing it decided to give me the advice that "as you go west prices are going to go up, East of here well, it gets a little dark" I gave him a look and was like wtf and he's like "you know, it just gets a little dicey"

Good grief

I would have called him a racist and told his boss he lost a potential renter. Also would have reminded him there are plenty of shootings and car jackings in safe ol JoCo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 04, 2016, 10:20:17 AM
I assume there will be a lot better info coming along as details get worked out and a vote on the bond issuance approaches  .... But it seems only the ones who don't want any change are making this about amenities in an attempt to discredit the need for a change at KCI.

I'm no construction engineer type nor have I seen the conditions below the surface. Ill take the word of the experts who have.

.. And yes no airline is going to promise new flights nor threaten reduction of flights... But they have said that the current design makes it difficult for them to maneuver bigger planes around the tarmac...

I would love more info.  However the note about those opposing being the ones framing it around amenities isn't accurate.  That is something I have heard every single time it is brought up on news radio in KC.  Maybe that is a failing of the person giving the pitch.  Maybe they think that KC'ers are simple enough that they think it can be sold by promise of more booze and cheap grease option?  Whatever the motive, that is def how it has been pitched by those for it so far in the media I consume.

Who is saying this in the media. Name names!!!

IMO thsts more a reflection of our soundbite media than the actual promoters of a new terminal. I'm all in on a new terminal and I couldn't care less if there is a chili's to go on the flight side. FlyKCI.Com has a lot of info.

I am horrible at naming names on stuff like this.  I have no reason to know of anyone they introduce and don't ever care to remember names until after the info is discussed.  I only listen to the discussion. 

I never remember names well period.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 04, 2016, 10:28:32 AM
Just jokes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on February 04, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
I assume there will be a lot better info coming along as details get worked out and a vote on the bond issuance approaches  .... But it seems only the ones who don't want any change are making this about amenities in an attempt to discredit the need for a change at KCI.

I'm no construction engineer type nor have I seen the conditions below the surface. Ill take the word of the experts who have.

.. And yes no airline is going to promise new flights nor threaten reduction of flights... But they have said that the current design makes it difficult for them to maneuver bigger planes around the tarmac...

I would love more info.  However the note about those opposing being the ones framing it around amenities isn't accurate.  That is something I have heard every single time it is brought up on news radio in KC.  Maybe that is a failing of the person giving the pitch.  Maybe they think that KC'ers are simple enough that they think it can be sold by promise of more booze and cheap grease option?  Whatever the motive, that is def how it has been pitched by those for it so far in the media I consume.

Who is saying this in the media. Name names!!!

IMO thsts more a reflection of our soundbite media than the actual promoters of a new terminal. I'm all in on a new terminal and I couldn't care less if there is a chili's to go on the flight side. FlyKCI.Com has a lot of info.
Phil, when the single terminal stuff started up a few years back I remember the prime motivator for the city was they are at least partly responsible for the labor related to security but could get a big chunk of federal money (around half IIRC) to pay for a new single terminal and reduce that labor cost. 

I believe the federal money at that time was maybe a hope it would be part of the federal stimulus package but I get old ballzer and dumber by the day so  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 07:16:48 PM
Boner city usa

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article59900671.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article59900671.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 11, 2016, 07:21:38 PM
cool
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 08:20:32 PM
a hotel boner, that's just so weird

also, i hate clicking on kansascity.com links b/c it wants me to log in to their paywall
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 08:31:09 PM
We can't choose what gives us boners
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 11, 2016, 08:48:31 PM
sly and the family bone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 08:48:54 PM
the big bitch about KCI from the powers that be and "seasoned travelers" is that you can't have centralized security with everything on the secure side the way it's setup, so amenities are scarce.    Frankly I don't care since I don't have layovers there, but I suppose it sucks for people that do.   I lovve walking right in and going to the gate.



again, if i'm footing the bill for a $1.5B airport, it needs to benefit me and nothing discussed is of any benefit to me so no

ehh, we still pay the fees through PFCs and airline spreading their costs throughout their system.  I've tried to find any stories from cities getting new terminals tying it to higher flight costs....can't find a one.

Airlines are the ones most concerned about a terminal raising their costs even speaking out against a new terminal in 2014...now they are advocating for a new terminal...think they forgot about their fees?  Maybe they getting a nicer cut of other fees like parking and restaurants in the new terminal which keeps their fees at a current level?  No idea.

of course they're getting a higher cut of the airport's revenues.  i mean, they were firmly on the other side of this debate until sly sweetened the deal. do you really think that they decided to lower their margins out of some sort of altruism for the people of KC?

and the consultants that you mentioned before are being paid for by KCMO (you and I), not the airlines. 

all of this stuff that the mayor is doing is paving his own Cleaver Boulevard at our expense.  that's his end game.  just as it was Cleaver's.  so glad he's done after this term (unless he decides to ignore the city charter again). of course, the city's voting constituency are rough ridin' idiots so I don't hold out much hope that we'll find someone better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 11, 2016, 08:51:15 PM
as an outsider, i hope you guys don't waste money on a new airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 08:55:17 PM
Sly is a rough ridin' boss
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:02:01 PM
he's a boss at being a downgrade
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:03:45 PM
We can't choose what we're bosses at
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 11, 2016, 09:08:42 PM
the 'clams sly hate is so weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:18:02 PM
the 'clams sly hate is so weird
not really at all, i think i do a pretty good job at explaining why i dislike him. as a taxpayer in the highest taxed area of the entire state, i don't like being ignored by my elected officials.  especially egotistical power hungry people like sly james.

what's weird is mocat and phil's blind love for him, like they really don't care how he does what he does.  that's weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:21:35 PM
(http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/diono8/picture59900666/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/convention%20hotel)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 11, 2016, 09:25:06 PM
God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:28:45 PM
(http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/diono8/picture59900666/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/convention%20hotel)

:lol: the only thing the city had to do with that kauffman center is to build a parking lot next to it (still owned by the city) :lol:
all the money was raised by a 501c established by julia kauffman.  even the land was purchased by the kauffman foundation, not donated by the city.  sly had nothing to do with it. 

:lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:30:04 PM
God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough

it can be.  currently working diligently with my council members to get the panhandlers off of it.  oh and also we're getting rid of the stop light at 48th and main and putting in a four-way stop.  it's nice having elected officials that partner with their constituency. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:30:08 PM
That photo is not of the Kauffman center
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
oh, the hotel that you and i are paying for and that hyatt is going to profit from through exclusivity on banquet bookings? ya looks great.  i'm really not firmly against the hotel, don't care either way- again, not sure why you're so pro-hotel, never really heard a reason other than because you blindly support everything that relates to spending city money.  my problem isn't with the hotel, it's with how sly went about pushing it through without voter input.

fwiw, conventions are already looking elsewhere because they're not allowed to bid out their banquet needs to help drive their down costs.  oh well!  new hotel!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 11, 2016, 09:35:17 PM

God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough

it can be.  currently working diligently with my council members to get the panhandlers off of it.  oh and also we're getting rid of the stop light at 48th and main and putting in a four-way stop.  it's nice having elected officials that partner with their constituency.

48th and main only has 3 way traffic :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:35:31 PM
You and i are certainly not paying for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:36:06 PM

God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough

it can be.  currently working diligently with my council members to get the panhandlers off of it.  oh and also we're getting rid of the stop light at 48th and main and putting in a four-way stop.  it's nice having elected officials that partner with their constituency.

48th and main only has 3 way traffic :confused:


Stop signs instead of stoplight, i believe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:37:31 PM
Clams, do you think the city will make more or less money from the hotel than they currently do from the piece of land that is there now?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:38:48 PM

God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough

it can be.  currently working diligently with my council members to get the panhandlers off of it.  oh and also we're getting rid of the stop light at 48th and main and putting in a four-way stop.  it's nice having elected officials that partner with their constituency.

48th and main only has 3 way traffic :confused:

49th but dang you know my 'hood!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:40:33 PM
Clams, do you think the city will make more or less money from the hotel than they currently do from the piece of land that is there now?

i think that the city gave away a prime piece of real estate that they didn't need to give away and that others would have paid to develop
it's funny because you think of yourself as a progressive but have the mentality of someone who feels like they need to give away the farm just to get noticed by the big kids
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:42:05 PM
Clams, do you think the city will make more or less money from the hotel than they currently do from the piece of land that is there now?

i think that the city gave away a prime piece of real estate that they didn't need to give away and that others would have paid to develop
it's funny because you think of yourself as a progressive but have the mentality of someone who feels like they need to give away the farm just to get noticed by the big kids

and again, i'm not so against the hotel as much as i am how it came to be.  i mean, city charter?  eff IT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:43:01 PM
So what offers did they turn down?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
I felt the same way (but on a smaller scale) about the bluemont hotel in mhk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:46:18 PM
So what offers did they turn down?
had to be a crap load with all of the development that's going on downtown w/ the streetcar and the P&L and the airport and the kauffman center garage.

come on, that's prime real estate, they didn't need to give it away and then pay for the hotel to be built too.  the dollars generated by that hotel will not stay in this city. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:49:59 PM
Here's the bottom line for me. Yes in a perfect world we would not need to offer incentives for developers, and we are probably pretty close to that point. But the reason they are called incentives is because the city benefits in the long run.
 The helzberg arch firm debacle is one of the ugly results of the city being super generous, even reckless with their tif giveaways. So now everyone expects them. I agree with you there. But here we are, and hopefully in the near future we won't need them so much.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2016, 09:53:20 PM
Sorry i cant remember the name of the arch firm but i think you know what I'm talking about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 09:56:46 PM
BNIM and yes, that type of crap is what makes me mad.  the last time a tif board member went against a project that sly wanted, he removed them from the tif council.

read this article, it does a great job explaining sly james' idea of governing-
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/12/01/helzberg-project-in-crossroads-is-exhibit-a-for-why-the-tif-process-is-dysfunctional
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2016, 10:01:16 PM
fwiw, jolie justus (stud) mentioned in that article is one of my city councilmembers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 11, 2016, 11:00:21 PM
edit...  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 12, 2016, 12:00:01 AM
Here's the bottom line for me. Yes in a perfect world we would not need to offer incentives for developers, and we are probably pretty close to that point. But the reason they are called incentives is because the city benefits in the long run.
 The helzberg arch firm debacle is one of the ugly results of the city being super generous, even reckless with their tif giveaways. So now everyone expects them. I agree with you there. But here we are, and hopefully in the near future we won't need them so much.

yep, developers definitely won't be asking for hundreds of millions in tax giveaways now that KC bent over and gave half of a project's cost to an out of town hotel in 2016.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 07:05:53 AM
More like 12%. The city is giving 3.5M worth of land and 35M in tourism funds that are collected from tourism fees. TIF incentives aren't backed by the city... So if their projections don't make it, the city's general fund is not on the hook.

Also, from some prior comments, convention inquiries are way up after the Hyatt announcement and conventions that would never talk to us are asking for our bids.

So much misinformation... No wonder nothing gets done in kc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 07:36:28 AM

God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough

it can be.  currently working diligently with my council members to get the panhandlers off of it.  oh and also we're getting rid of the stop light at 48th and main and putting in a four-way stop.  it's nice having elected officials that partner with their constituency.

Are there nice downtownish areas in cities that don't have some panhandlers? I guess the plaza is the KC equivalent of Michigan Avenue or 5th avenue... Both of which are chock full of panhandlers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 07:44:06 AM

God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough

it can be.  currently working diligently with my council members to get the panhandlers off of it.  oh and also we're getting rid of the stop light at 48th and main and putting in a four-way stop.  it's nice having elected officials that partner with their constituency.

Are there nice downtownish areas in cities that don't have some panhandlers? I guess the plaza is the KC equivalent of Michigan Avenue or 5th avenue... Both of which are chock full of panhandlers

i've never lived on michigan nor 5th avenues, i do live on the plaza.  i'm not concerned what happens in those cities. i can report that i don't remember it being an issue in chicago, although i can only speak to my experiences there. are you pro-begger?

and yes, there are plenty of places where panhandling is outlawed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 07:45:01 AM
More like 12%. The city is giving 3.5M worth of land and 35M in tourism funds that are collected from tourism fees. TIF incentives aren't backed by the city... So if their projections don't make it, the city's general fund is not on the hook.

Also, from some prior comments, convention inquiries are way up after the Hyatt announcement and conventions that would never talk to us are asking for our bids.

So much misinformation... No wonder nothing gets done in kc.
speaking of misinformation :lol:
has there ever been a capital project that sly james has pushed through that you didn't support?  serious question.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 07:49:59 AM


God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough

it can be.  currently working diligently with my council members to get the panhandlers off of it.  oh and also we're getting rid of the stop light at 48th and main and putting in a four-way stop.  it's nice having elected officials that partner with their constituency.

Are there nice downtownish areas in cities that don't have some panhandlers? I guess the plaza is the KC equivalent of Michigan Avenue or 5th avenue... Both of which are chock full of panhandlers

i've never lived on michigan nor 5th avenues, i do live on the plaza.  i'm not concerned what happens in those cities. i can report that i don't remember it being an issue in chicago, although i can only speak to my experiences there. are you pro-begger?

Not pro-beggar, but unless you do something to solve what drives them to beg, I don't see how moving the beggars to less affluent, tourist frequented, or population dense places does any good.  My point was more that if you have beggars, they will go to where the money is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 07:53:57 AM
More like 12%. The city is giving 3.5M worth of land and 35M in tourism funds that are collected from tourism fees. TIF incentives aren't backed by the city... So if their projections don't make it, the city's general fund is not on the hook.

Also, from some prior comments, convention inquiries are way up after the Hyatt announcement and conventions that would never talk to us are asking for our bids.

So much misinformation... No wonder nothing gets done in kc.
speaking of misinformation :lol:
has there ever been a capital project that sly james has pushed through that you didn't support?  serious question.

I can't say I know all his projects.
Sewers... Yes
Airport... Yes
Streetcar... Yes

Do you include the new tearing down buildings on the East side as a capital investment? I hate that plan.

What misinformation? Btw These conversations seem to go better with beers...internet bickering over city issues doesn't work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 08:01:05 AM


God could you guys imagine living on the plaza, must be rough

it can be.  currently working diligently with my council members to get the panhandlers off of it.  oh and also we're getting rid of the stop light at 48th and main and putting in a four-way stop.  it's nice having elected officials that partner with their constituency.

Are there nice downtownish areas in cities that don't have some panhandlers? I guess the plaza is the KC equivalent of Michigan Avenue or 5th avenue... Both of which are chock full of panhandlers

i've never lived on michigan nor 5th avenues, i do live on the plaza.  i'm not concerned what happens in those cities. i can report that i don't remember it being an issue in chicago, although i can only speak to my experiences there. are you pro-begger?

Not pro-beggar, but unless you do something to solve what drives them to beg, I don't see how moving the beggars to less affluent, tourist frequented, or population dense places does any good.  My point was more that if you have beggars, they will go to where the money is.

i have no desire to do something to solve what drives them to beg.  i'll work on me, they can work on themselves, seems like a pretty fair deal.  moving beggers to less affluent, tourist frequented or population dense places gets them out of my neighborhood, that's the good it does.  i'd bet legislation would get drafted pretty damn quickly if they decided to camp out on every corner of mission hills. or any development out in OP/leawood. those people wouldn't deal with it and i shouldn't have to.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 08:03:08 AM
More like 12%. The city is giving 3.5M worth of land and 35M in tourism funds that are collected from tourism fees. TIF incentives aren't backed by the city... So if their projections don't make it, the city's general fund is not on the hook.

Also, from some prior comments, convention inquiries are way up after the Hyatt announcement and conventions that would never talk to us are asking for our bids.

So much misinformation... No wonder nothing gets done in kc.
speaking of misinformation :lol:
has there ever been a capital project that sly james has pushed through that you didn't support?  serious question.

I can't say I know all his projects.
Sewers... Yes
Airport... Yes
Streetcar... Yes

Do you include the new tearing down buildings on the East side as a capital investment? I hate that plan.

What misinformation? Btw These conversations seem to go better with beers...internet bickering over city issues doesn't work.

i'm not bickering, i enjoy the back and forth.  but as it relates to beers, i'll be boozin for the 72 hours, feel free to drop in! (just watch out for the bums littering the area, it gets really annoying).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 08:04:43 AM
*sewers weren't sly's project, that was the EPA that forced KC to take action b/c we're currently dumping raw sewage into our rivers/streams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 08:12:05 AM
I stand corrected on the sewers actually. That plan was worked out with the EPA in 2010... Sly started on 2011

He did pass the largest bond issuance in city history to deal with a billion in infrastructure backlogs that prior mayors ignored.

Id join you but I get to enjoy lovely western Kansas this weekend!

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 08:13:29 AM


i have no desire to do something to solve what drives them to beg.  i'll work on me, they can work on themselves, seems like a pretty fair deal.  moving beggers to less affluent, tourist frequented or population dense places gets them out of my neighborhood, that's the good it does.  i'd bet legislation would get drafted pretty damn quickly if they decided to camp out on every corner of mission hills. or any development out in OP/leawood. those people wouldn't deal with it and i shouldn't have to.

You're not wrong, just a bit of a NIMBYSC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 08:26:41 AM


i have no desire to do something to solve what drives them to beg.  i'll work on me, they can work on themselves, seems like a pretty fair deal.  moving beggers to less affluent, tourist frequented or population dense places gets them out of my neighborhood, that's the good it does.  i'd bet legislation would get drafted pretty damn quickly if they decided to camp out on every corner of mission hills. or any development out in OP/leawood. those people wouldn't deal with it and i shouldn't have to.

You're not wrong, just a bit of a NIMBYSC

i see the same dudes sitting in the same places every single day.  several times a day.  then you got the guy playing the flute, the guy playing the trumpet, the dad and daughter (him drumming, her singing), the myriad of magicians, several guitarists, a saxophone or two.  my sidewalks become a carnival on warm weather weekends.  the neighborhood that i live in is  much more than a shopping center and it will be here long after forever 21 closes, and it depends on people like myself investing our time and money in it. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 12, 2016, 08:27:05 AM
How can you truly feel elite without a few homeless to flaunt it to?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 08:30:41 AM
Clams gets it. It's annoying when people just consider the plaza the blocks owned (being sold) by Highwoods. its still the most functional urban residential neighborhood we have in kc.  I loved my years living on the west plaza side.... I'd never go back as I'm invested in downtown now but it's a great neighborhood to live and never step foot into cheesecake factory.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 12, 2016, 08:47:35 AM
well at least the street car is free so no panhandlers will go there and offend you guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 12, 2016, 09:38:57 AM
More like 12%. The city is giving 3.5M worth of land and 35M in tourism funds that are collected from tourism fees. TIF incentives aren't backed by the city... So if their projections don't make it, the city's general fund is not on the hook.

Also, from some prior comments, convention inquiries are way up after the Hyatt announcement and conventions that would never talk to us are asking for our bids.

So much misinformation... No wonder nothing gets done in kc.

The project is $310 million.
According to the KC biz journal, KC's handover  "included a $35 million upfront contribution form the city and tax increment financing, which will divert about $139 million to the project over 30 years."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 09:54:58 AM
missouriscribe is the ptolemy of this thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 10:24:29 AM
That is the weirdest KC thing people can come up with regarding the streetcar. If they charged people would complain... Its free so people search out reasons to complain.

Just to address everyone's fears that the streetcar will be a rolling homeless camp, the cars are cleared at the union station terminus. Problems are dealt with with KCPD.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 10:31:28 AM
i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 10:33:17 AM
More like 12%. The city is giving 3.5M worth of land and 35M in tourism funds that are collected from tourism fees. TIF incentives aren't backed by the city... So if their projections don't make it, the city's general fund is not on the hook.

Also, from some prior comments, convention inquiries are way up after the Hyatt announcement and conventions that would never talk to us are asking for our bids.

So much misinformation... No wonder nothing gets done in kc.

The project is $310 million.
According to the KC biz journal, KC's handover  "included a $35 million upfront contribution form the city and tax increment financing, which will divert about $139 million to the project over 30 years."

This is just a difference in philosophy. I don't consider money we aren't getting now without the project to be an expense to the city. If the project is built, those new incremental tax proceeds are used to help get the project going. The only argument is opportunity cost... Given that land has set empty for 20+ years, thats a tough argument to swallow.

The huge difference in this deal vs a p&l project TIF is the city is not on the hook if the projections don't work. No general funds are at risk here. 

The 35M btw can't be used for anything but tourism projects... It can't be used to fix sewers or potholes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 10:34:45 AM
i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with

I've heard it at least a dozen times.... Usually the conversation is around how much is that going to cost me to ride... I say it's free... Response... Oh great homeless will ride it all day.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 12, 2016, 10:35:40 AM
that's a good way to look at it. Appreciate the breakdown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 12, 2016, 10:43:00 AM




i have no desire to do something to solve what drives them to beg.  i'll work on me, they can work on themselves, seems like a pretty fair deal.  moving beggers to less affluent, tourist frequented or population dense places gets them out of my neighborhood, that's the good it does.  i'd bet legislation would get drafted pretty damn quickly if they decided to camp out on every corner of mission hills. or any development out in OP/leawood. those people wouldn't deal with it and i shouldn't have to.

You're not wrong, just a bit of a NIMBYSC

i see the same dudes sitting in the same places every single day.  several times a day.  then you got the guy playing the flute, the guy playing the trumpet, the dad and daughter (him drumming, her singing), the myriad of magicians, several guitarists, a saxophone or two.  my sidewalks become a carnival on warm weather weekends.  the neighborhood that i live in is  much more than a shopping center and it will be here long after forever 21 closes, and it depends on people like myself investing our time and money in it.

Today I learned that 'clams is the biggest bad person on this blog.

Really? Complaining about performers on the plaza? Isn't that the point of urban centers?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 12, 2016, 10:43:39 AM
Not if they are homeless
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 12, 2016, 10:47:57 AM
i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with

I've heard it at least a dozen times.... Usually the conversation is around how much is that going to cost me to ride... I say it's free... Response... Oh great homeless will ride it all day.  :facepalm:
my gripe is that I think that if there truly is a need for accessible public transport in downtown, a bus system would be much more effective.

disclaimer: I ride in a bus every day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 10:50:28 AM




i have no desire to do something to solve what drives them to beg.  i'll work on me, they can work on themselves, seems like a pretty fair deal.  moving beggers to less affluent, tourist frequented or population dense places gets them out of my neighborhood, that's the good it does.  i'd bet legislation would get drafted pretty damn quickly if they decided to camp out on every corner of mission hills. or any development out in OP/leawood. those people wouldn't deal with it and i shouldn't have to.

You're not wrong, just a bit of a NIMBYSC

i see the same dudes sitting in the same places every single day.  several times a day.  then you got the guy playing the flute, the guy playing the trumpet, the dad and daughter (him drumming, her singing), the myriad of magicians, several guitarists, a saxophone or two.  my sidewalks become a carnival on warm weather weekends.  the neighborhood that i live in is  much more than a shopping center and it will be here long after forever 21 closes, and it depends on people like myself investing our time and money in it.

Today I learned that 'clams is the biggest bad person on this blog.

Really? Complaining about performers on the plaza? Isn't that the point of urban centers?

there are street performers and there are people who picked up a flute from the pawn shop on the way down to the plaza.
but if you think i'm an bad person, i'll allow you to think that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 12, 2016, 10:52:35 AM






i have no desire to do something to solve what drives them to beg.  i'll work on me, they can work on themselves, seems like a pretty fair deal.  moving beggers to less affluent, tourist frequented or population dense places gets them out of my neighborhood, that's the good it does.  i'd bet legislation would get drafted pretty damn quickly if they decided to camp out on every corner of mission hills. or any development out in OP/leawood. those people wouldn't deal with it and i shouldn't have to.

You're not wrong, just a bit of a NIMBYSC

i see the same dudes sitting in the same places every single day.  several times a day.  then you got the guy playing the flute, the guy playing the trumpet, the dad and daughter (him drumming, her singing), the myriad of magicians, several guitarists, a saxophone or two.  my sidewalks become a carnival on warm weather weekends.  the neighborhood that i live in is  much more than a shopping center and it will be here long after forever 21 closes, and it depends on people like myself investing our time and money in it.

Today I learned that 'clams is the biggest bad person on this blog.

Really? Complaining about performers on the plaza? Isn't that the point of urban centers?

there are street performers and there are people who picked up a flute from the pawn shop on the way down to the plaza.
but if you think i'm an bad person, i'll allow you to think that.

I mean, if you hate that crap, don't live on the plaza.

As you said "they're gonna work on them, and you're gonna work on you" why should they be concerned how their actions affect you?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 12, 2016, 10:54:48 AM
Wait, I thought 'Clams was in college? :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 12, 2016, 10:55:40 AM
Wait, I thought 'Clams was in college? :confused:
please don't ruin this blog's kayfabe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 10:59:18 AM






i have no desire to do something to solve what drives them to beg.  i'll work on me, they can work on themselves, seems like a pretty fair deal.  moving beggers to less affluent, tourist frequented or population dense places gets them out of my neighborhood, that's the good it does.  i'd bet legislation would get drafted pretty damn quickly if they decided to camp out on every corner of mission hills. or any development out in OP/leawood. those people wouldn't deal with it and i shouldn't have to.

You're not wrong, just a bit of a NIMBYSC

i see the same dudes sitting in the same places every single day.  several times a day.  then you got the guy playing the flute, the guy playing the trumpet, the dad and daughter (him drumming, her singing), the myriad of magicians, several guitarists, a saxophone or two.  my sidewalks become a carnival on warm weather weekends.  the neighborhood that i live in is  much more than a shopping center and it will be here long after forever 21 closes, and it depends on people like myself investing our time and money in it.

Today I learned that 'clams is the biggest bad person on this blog.

Really? Complaining about performers on the plaza? Isn't that the point of urban centers?

there are street performers and there are people who picked up a flute from the pawn shop on the way down to the plaza.
but if you think i'm an bad person, i'll allow you to think that.

I mean, if you hate that crap, don't live on the plaza.

As you said "they're gonna work on them, and you're gonna work on you" why should they be concerned how their actions affect you?

i'll live where i want to, urban planner guy.
by the way, when was the last time you offered to let these "street performers" into your venue to entertain your clientele?
because i get to listen to homeless joe work his way through the barry manilow discography on his saxophone a whole lot.
are you a sucker for card tricks?  because i'm sure your customers are, and they'd love to empty their pockets every day while sipping on ice cold microbrews.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 11:01:50 AM
Hmm, didn't realize these people were entering businesses and residences to do their panhandling
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 12, 2016, 11:02:34 AM






i have no desire to do something to solve what drives them to beg.  i'll work on me, they can work on themselves, seems like a pretty fair deal.  moving beggers to less affluent, tourist frequented or population dense places gets them out of my neighborhood, that's the good it does.  i'd bet legislation would get drafted pretty damn quickly if they decided to camp out on every corner of mission hills. or any development out in OP/leawood. those people wouldn't deal with it and i shouldn't have to.

You're not wrong, just a bit of a NIMBYSC

i see the same dudes sitting in the same places every single day.  several times a day.  then you got the guy playing the flute, the guy playing the trumpet, the dad and daughter (him drumming, her singing), the myriad of magicians, several guitarists, a saxophone or two.  my sidewalks become a carnival on warm weather weekends.  the neighborhood that i live in is  much more than a shopping center and it will be here long after forever 21 closes, and it depends on people like myself investing our time and money in it.

Today I learned that 'clams is the biggest bad person on this blog.

Really? Complaining about performers on the plaza? Isn't that the point of urban centers?

there are street performers and there are people who picked up a flute from the pawn shop on the way down to the plaza.
but if you think i'm an bad person, i'll allow you to think that.

I mean, if you hate that crap, don't live on the plaza.

As you said "they're gonna work on them, and you're gonna work on you" why should they be concerned how their actions affect you?

i'll live where i want to, urban planner guy.
by the way, when was the last time you offered to let these "street performers" into your venue to entertain your clientele?
because i get to listen to homeless joe work his way through the barry manilow discography on his saxophone a whole lot.
are you a sucker for card tricks?  because i'm sure your customers are, and they'd love to empty their pockets every day while sipping on ice cold microbrews.
Haha I'd imagine if someone wanted to play the sax out front I couldn't do much to stop them, nor would I want to, unless they were harassing people.

I can understand why it's annoying. I lived on the plaza for two years and loved seeing all that stuff. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 11:04:58 AM
i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with

I've heard it at least a dozen times.... Usually the conversation is around how much is that going to cost me to ride... I say it's free... Response... Oh great homeless will ride it all day.  :facepalm:
my gripe is that I think that if there truly is a need for accessible public transport in downtown, a bus system would be much more effective.

disclaimer: I ride in a bus every day.

there already is a bus system
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 11:08:04 AM
as it relates to the actual street performers, i really have no problem with them at all.  there are several areas where bands are allowed to set up, and they play and you can tell the practice, etc.
i just feel like a good number of them are panhandling under the guise of "learning their art"
and the shell game and follow the card guys, i mean, wtf.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 12, 2016, 11:11:12 AM
i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with

I've heard it at least a dozen times.... Usually the conversation is around how much is that going to cost me to ride... I say it's free... Response... Oh great homeless will ride it all day.  :facepalm:
my gripe is that I think that if there truly is a need for accessible public transport in downtown, a bus system would be much more effective.

disclaimer: I ride in a bus every day.

there already is a bus system
Remind me why a streetcar is beneficial then?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2016, 11:12:23 AM
It would be awesome if kc had more true buskers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 11:18:26 AM
It would be awesome if kc had more true buskers

in spain they have gypsies everywhere and the rub plants on you and try to sell them to you.  very annoying and gross.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
That's not a busker
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 11:23:17 AM
i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with

I've heard it at least a dozen times.... Usually the conversation is around how much is that going to cost me to ride... I say it's free... Response... Oh great homeless will ride it all day.  :facepalm:
my gripe is that I think that if there truly is a need for accessible public transport in downtown, a bus system would be much more effective.

disclaimer: I ride in a bus every day.

there already is a bus system
Remind me why a streetcar is beneficial then?

Fixed rail drives and focuses development. It is a starter line for a bigger system including commuter rail. It doesn't have the stigma buses have (I hate that one but it's true)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 11:24:16 AM
i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with

I've heard it at least a dozen times.... Usually the conversation is around how much is that going to cost me to ride... I say it's free... Response... Oh great homeless will ride it all day.  :facepalm:
my gripe is that I think that if there truly is a need for accessible public transport in downtown, a bus system would be much more effective.

disclaimer: I ride in a bus every day.

there already is a bus system
Remind me why a streetcar is beneficial then?

well i think there are several benefits to having another means of transportation.
1. it's free to ride
2. the bus route that operates on the streetcar route (the MAX) is always extremely full. (i take it to work every day when it's not crazy cold out, although i have this week and it's still packed)
3. the streetcar will run late at night, unlike the bus
4. this does not benefit me (the midtown resident), but i think it will be great for visitors to downtown, who want to get from crown center to pnl / river market. people from out of town do not use the bus.
5. river market to crown center (and eventually to midtown) is and always will be the densest part of kc; makes sense to have a permanent option in addition to the bus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 11:27:45 AM
Drives and focuses development sounds like buzzword propaganda
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 12, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
Remind me why a streetcar is beneficial then?

well i think there are several benefits to having another means of transportation.
1. it's free to ride
2. the bus route that operates on the streetcar route (the MAX) is always extremely full. (i take it to work every day when it's not crazy cold out, although i have this week and it's still packed)
3. the streetcar will run late at night, unlike the bus
4. this does not benefit me (the midtown resident), but i think it will be great for visitors to downtown, who want to get from crown center to pnl / river market. people from out of town do not use the bus.
5. river market to crown center (and eventually to midtown) is and always will be the densest part of kc; makes sense to have a permanent option in addition to the bus.
Just spitballing here, but couldn't you just add more busses to the busiest routes?  Or add more routes?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 11:33:53 AM
Drives and focuses development sounds like buzzword propaganda

here's one of many examples suggesting otherwise

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article57020493.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article57020493.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 11:34:03 AM

i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with

I've heard it at least a dozen times.... Usually the conversation is around how much is that going to cost me to ride... I say it's free... Response... Oh great homeless will ride it all day.  :facepalm:
my gripe is that I think that if there truly is a need for accessible public transport in downtown, a bus system would be much more effective.

disclaimer: I ride in a bus every day.

there already is a bus system
Remind me why a streetcar is beneficial then?
2. the bus route that operates on the streetcar route (the MAX) is always extremely full. (i take it to work every day when it's not crazy cold out, although i have this week and it's still packed)
3. the streetcar will run late at night, unlike the bus

Idea: more frequent buses and extended hours
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 11:37:04 AM

i don't know if that's an overriding concern with anyone that i've discussed the streetcar with

I've heard it at least a dozen times.... Usually the conversation is around how much is that going to cost me to ride... I say it's free... Response... Oh great homeless will ride it all day.  :facepalm:
my gripe is that I think that if there truly is a need for accessible public transport in downtown, a bus system would be much more effective.

disclaimer: I ride in a bus every day.

there already is a bus system
Remind me why a streetcar is beneficial then?
2. the bus route that operates on the streetcar route (the MAX) is always extremely full. (i take it to work every day when it's not crazy cold out, although i have this week and it's still packed)
3. the streetcar will run late at night, unlike the bus

Idea: more frequent buses and extended hours

great idea 8mp. they should also make it free to ride and then not make it a bus so that out of town people will use it, and developers will want to develop properties around it.*
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 11:38:23 AM
*with temporary property tax abatement incentives, of course  ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 11:38:55 AM
Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 11:40:56 AM
Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

not kansas citians (as i said earlier the MAX is maxed out).

and no i don't think it will. do you?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 11:42:29 AM

Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

not kansas citians (as i said earlier the MAX is maxed out).

and no i don't think it will. do you?

Well, I assume the stigma has to do with being in close proximity to poor and / or homeless people, for which the free streetcar would seem to be a magnet. I dunno
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 12, 2016, 11:43:35 AM
Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

not kansas citians (as i said earlier the MAX is maxed out).

and no i don't think it will. do you?
in my experience, trains have more shady people on them than busses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 11:44:58 AM
in kc, i think you'll be more inclined to rub shoulders with a college grad while on the streetcar (during the b12 tournament for example) than on the bus, dlew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 12, 2016, 11:51:43 AM
in kc, i think you'll be more inclined to rub shoulders with a college grad while on the streetcar (during the b12 tournament for example) than on the bus, dlew
I think the streetcar will be great for the big 12 tournament and other huge downtown events fwiw.  it's the other ~300 days a year that I think the streetcar is silly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 11:54:10 AM

in kc, i think you'll be more inclined to rub shoulders with a college grad while on the streetcar (during the b12 tournament for example) than on the bus, dlew

Proactive KC residents should write their council reps to get the poors off the bus and onto 'Clams' street corner I guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 12:09:11 PM
Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

Here is an example. Most everybody will ride the subway in NYC or the El in Chicago right? Tell those same people to take the bus in those cities and many times you'll get looks of horror.

In not saying everybody.... But for many that stigma exists.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 12, 2016, 12:12:14 PM
This debate is really a microcosm of small towners vs big towners.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2016, 12:15:26 PM

Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

Here is an example. Most everybody will ride the subway in NYC or the El in Chicago right? Tell those same people to take the bus in those cities and many times you'll get looks of horror.

In not saying everybody.... But for many that stigma exists.

I don't disagree, I just think that a free streetcar is more similar to a bus than a train
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on February 12, 2016, 12:19:10 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 12:23:41 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 12, 2016, 12:25:59 PM
When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 12, 2016, 12:27:12 PM
When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 12:27:21 PM
Describe what you define as failure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 12:28:31 PM
if what dlew described is the worst case, would take.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 12, 2016, 12:31:03 PM
When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

If any of the pro's that were promised in the sale of the project to the public don't actually materialize.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 12, 2016, 12:32:05 PM
When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

If any of the pro's that were promised in the sale of the project to the public don't actually materialize.

What were the Pro's they promised... don't live there anymore
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 12:37:55 PM
When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

If any of the pro's that were promised in the sale of the project to the public don't actually materialize.

it's already failed in your mind obviously, so who do you blame?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 12:38:45 PM
is there even public transportation of any kind in johnson county? i guess i occasionally see "the JO" downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2016, 12:42:32 PM
Joco needs an El running down the median of I 35
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 12, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

If any of the pro's that were promised in the sale of the project to the public don't actually materialize.

it's already failed in your mind obviously, so who do you blame?

JoCo people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 12, 2016, 12:47:29 PM
I don't know why anyone would be against the streetcar.. it's basically the stepping stone to a lightrail system which is absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 12, 2016, 12:50:30 PM
Some people just can't handle change
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 12, 2016, 12:52:50 PM
Some people just can't handle change
Ppl can handle change, but if we're going to pay taxes for some street car that goes 10 ft, then we have the right to judge wtf they're doing.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 01:08:13 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center
lol no, the entire city has repeatedly voted down the streetcar when given the opportunity to.  I'd guess we've said no eight times or so.  this isn't just brookside saying no.
we don't need one and it's hilarious that that you guys support it in the way that you do
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 01:11:42 PM
and yet here we are
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2016, 01:12:26 PM
this is like a microcosm of bernie sanders' campaign
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 01:17:34 PM
I don't know why anyone would be against the streetcar.. it's basically the stepping stone to a lightrail system which is absolutely amazing.
i know, right? it's basically like people flying around in floating autonomous cars.  basically, I mean if we get this streetcar/light rail/floating autonomous cars thing can you imagine how big Kansas City will become? 

Silicon Valley of the plains? excuse me, more like the Milky Way of the plains
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 01:18:17 PM
the conventions will be huge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 01:20:39 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center
lol no, the entire city has repeatedly voted down the streetcar when given the opportunity to.  I'd guess we've said no eight times or so.  this isn't just brookside saying no.
we don't need one and it's hilarious that that you guys support it in the way that you do

Phase 2 is coming and it will pass. It will go to umkc. The main street corridor has always voted yes in rail elections.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on February 12, 2016, 01:33:05 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center

Of course it failed. I had a home just east of Wornall in Armour Hills, they wanted to raise people's property taxes by several hundred $ year for something nobody needs.   That's insane. You can drive anywhere you'd like in KC without any trouble, regardless of where you live.  You can't beat that kind of convenience, especially with kc's incredibly shitty weather.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 12, 2016, 02:01:47 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center

Of course it failed. I had a home just east of Wornall in Armour Hills, they wanted to raise people's property taxes by several hundred $ year for something nobody needs.   That's insane. You can drive anywhere you'd like in KC without any trouble, regardless of where you live.  You can't beat that kind of convenience, especially with kc's incredibly shitty weather.
I live in brookside, if there was a streetcar to my 'hood we'd get rid of a car since both my wife and I work in the crossroads (except for the 9 days a month I drive to the burbs)

That would save me well over what my property tax increase would be. This obviously isn't the case for some people,  but more than we realize.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 12, 2016, 02:41:59 PM
We have light rail, bus, and a version of a streetcar that are all very accessible and used frequently.  They pay for all these through sales tax (70%) and fares (30%).  And the streetcar(bus) is free.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 12, 2016, 03:30:33 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center

Of course it failed. I had a home just east of Wornall in Armour Hills, they wanted to raise people's property taxes by several hundred $ year for something nobody needs.   That's insane. You can drive anywhere you'd like in KC without any trouble, regardless of where you live.  You can't beat that kind of convenience, especially with kc's incredibly shitty weather.
I live in brookside, if there was a streetcar to my 'hood we'd get rid of a car since both my wife and I work in the crossroads (except for the 9 days a month I drive to the burbs)

That would save me well over what my property tax increase would be. This obviously isn't the case for some people,  but more than we realize.
And, yes, the reason we dont do this now is b/c my wife won't ride the bus. Like it or hate it, there is a stigma
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 03:38:21 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center

Of course it failed. I had a home just east of Wornall in Armour Hills, they wanted to raise people's property taxes by several hundred $ year for something nobody needs.   That's insane. You can drive anywhere you'd like in KC without any trouble, regardless of where you live.  You can't beat that kind of convenience, especially with kc's incredibly shitty weather.
I live in brookside, if there was a streetcar to my 'hood we'd get rid of a car since both my wife and I work in the crossroads (except for the 9 days a month I drive to the burbs)

That would save me well over what my property tax increase would be. This obviously isn't the case for some people,  but more than we realize.

would you really rather have it take 40 minutes to get to work versus 15?  seems weird.  isn't your time worth more than that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 12, 2016, 03:39:47 PM
Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center

Of course it failed. I had a home just east of Wornall in Armour Hills, they wanted to raise people's property taxes by several hundred $ year for something nobody needs.   That's insane. You can drive anywhere you'd like in KC without any trouble, regardless of where you live.  You can't beat that kind of convenience, especially with kc's incredibly shitty weather.
I live in brookside, if there was a streetcar to my 'hood we'd get rid of a car since both my wife and I work in the crossroads (except for the 9 days a month I drive to the burbs)

That would save me well over what my property tax increase would be. This obviously isn't the case for some people,  but more than we realize.

would you really rather have it take 40 minutes to get to work versus 15?  seems weird.  isn't your time worth more than that?
Meh, not really if I can answer emails and crap on the way there. That's like 60% of my day anyway.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 03:42:24 PM
I'll do anything in my power to never drive to work again. If I can't walk I'm busing it.... I'd rather dick around on my phone than deal with Casey Roadrager
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 03:42:57 PM
fair enough, just remember that time is the one thing that money can't buy.  not even TIF money. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2016, 03:43:26 PM
I'll do anything in my power to never drive to work again. If I can't walk I'm busing it.... I'd rather dick around on my phone than deal with Casey Roadrager

why not just move closer to work then?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on February 12, 2016, 03:44:47 PM
I drive my car to work. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 12, 2016, 03:46:49 PM
Me too, a bus doesn't even go near my office
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 12, 2016, 03:49:12 PM
love all the johnson county hate in here as if KC would even exist without JoCo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2016, 03:50:10 PM
Powered off of beige!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 12, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Joco does suck though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2016, 03:51:08 PM
If the ppl of joco had souls, joco would suck it out of them
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 12, 2016, 03:52:50 PM
I would rather live EAST OF TROOST than the suburban joco hellscape
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 03:53:53 PM
fair enough, just remember that time is the one thing that money can't buy.  not even TIF money.

Right. Time on a bus I can actually be productive posting here. Can't do that while driving.im walking home right now posting!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on February 12, 2016, 03:54:00 PM
Hey everyone - I live in JoCo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 12, 2016, 03:55:07 PM
So is the anti-rail crowd basically anti because of tax increase? or is there something else?

What if it was all through sales tax and fares?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 12, 2016, 03:57:06 PM
"id love to find a nice 4 bedroom somewhere close to East High School" - no one ever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 12, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
JoCo isn't bad, but Olathe, Lenexa and most of Shawnee is lame AF

(I grew up in Olathe fwiw)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 12, 2016, 04:23:38 PM
love all the johnson county hate in here as if KC would even exist without JoCo

Where was the JoCo hate until after this post?  I didn't see any.

Yes you are right....the metro traces it roots back to 95th & Metcalf I remember reading. 
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 12, 2016, 04:23:52 PM
'Burbs input about city issues are cute
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on February 12, 2016, 04:45:55 PM
JoCo isn't bad, but Olathe, Lenexa and most of Shawnee is lame AF

(I grew up in Olathe fwiw)

I mean yeah if you don't have kids
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 16, 2016, 10:49:52 PM
woof
http://gizmodo.com/streetcars-are-the-great-urban-gimmick-of-our-time-1759474436
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 16, 2016, 11:08:40 PM
woof
http://gizmodo.com/streetcars-are-the-great-urban-gimmick-of-our-time-1759474436

Well that settles it... Gizmodo has spoken out against about a 2.5B NYC line so all streetcars are bad. The NYC line does seem dumb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 16, 2016, 11:23:16 PM
if that's all you took from that article, well, i wouldn't be surprised
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 17, 2016, 05:23:14 AM
I would be all for sexy articulated buses too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 17, 2016, 05:24:25 AM
Streetcars were removed when people fled for the burbs, now that people are back, so are the streetcars.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2016, 07:48:03 AM
if that's all you took from that article, well, i wouldn't be surprised

I took it was from Gizmodo... Far from an authority on urban planning. Every point they made they related to the NYC project.... Not smaller systems that are successful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 17, 2016, 09:58:27 AM
JoCo isn't bad, but Olathe, Lenexa and most of Shawnee is lame AF

(I grew up in Olathe fwiw)
I dislike you as a person and a poster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 17, 2016, 10:05:19 AM
Streetcars were removed when people fled for the burbs, now that people are back, so are the streetcars.

Didn't the original streetcars actually take riders to the suburbs? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 17, 2016, 10:11:55 AM
is the kc streetcar going to have a dedicated lane?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on February 17, 2016, 10:34:02 AM
Streetcars were removed when people fled for the burbs, now that people are back, so are the streetcars.

Didn't the original streetcars actually take riders to the suburbs?
I don't think they ever left the city limits of KCMO but were a way to get to/from downtown from the "suburban" neighborhoods that were to the South and East.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2016, 10:35:35 AM
is the kc streetcar going to have a dedicated lane?

No
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 17, 2016, 10:54:52 AM
is the kc streetcar going to have a dedicated lane?

No
This streetcar sounds like a giant, free bus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2016, 10:55:42 AM
It is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 17, 2016, 11:10:00 AM
it isnt, because buses can go further than a mile and make turns and stuff
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2016, 11:15:50 AM
Streetcars make turns
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 17, 2016, 11:20:10 AM
if that's all you took from that article, well, i wouldn't be surprised

I took it was from Gizmodo... Far from an authority on urban planning. Every point they made they related to the NYC project.... Not smaller systems that are successful.

i'd expect nothing more from you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2016, 11:26:46 AM
Lead me to your key takeaways. Teach me the ways of the objection lifestyle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on February 17, 2016, 11:55:48 AM
What happened to the IRL municipal gab sesh?  :lol:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on February 17, 2016, 12:21:34 PM
I will never ride the bus. I will, in fact, ride the streetcar... Likely go to Up/Down to start my night... walk to Rieger for a little primer, jump the car and creep around Rivermarket/downtown before Uber'ing to Plaza. Can't wait for it to extend to Plaza. I wish it would sooner.

8MP, you blow goats and don't know a thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2016, 12:24:34 PM
Streetcar hj's :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 17, 2016, 12:24:38 PM

is the kc streetcar going to have a dedicated lane?

No

So this thing is going to eff traffic up even more than a bus?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2016, 12:25:13 PM

is the kc streetcar going to have a dedicated lane?

No

So this thing is going to eff traffic up even more than a bus?

No
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2016, 12:31:01 PM
I can't stand driving downtown as it is now. So many dumbasses who don't know where they are, what's a one way, buses, ppl walking the streets, parking, etc. When it's cold, I drive to Cosentinos, & sometimes it can be a long process. I swear there's been a concert at the Midland every day for the last two weeks too. I can't wait for it to get nice out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on February 17, 2016, 12:33:58 PM
Streetcar hj's :love:

#inevitable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2016, 12:40:11 PM
There will be no HJ's, unless you're counting the bums masterbating in the streetcars.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on February 17, 2016, 12:42:47 PM
Tell that to the babe who's rolling from the Skrillex concert at Midland and just wants to make it to new Cashew (whatever concept it's going with), and she locks eyes with RS2K... Game. Over. Thanks for playing. HJ's on lock.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2016, 12:47:56 PM

is the kc streetcar going to have a dedicated lane?

No

So this thing is going to eff traffic up even more than a bus?

Since KC doesn't have any traffic, that doesn't seem like much of a concern. Use Baltimore and walnut which are now two ways the length of the route if worse comes to worse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 17, 2016, 12:48:30 PM
I will never ride the bus.
why?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on February 17, 2016, 01:21:19 PM
Tough to say other than the ease of jumping on and off without paying. Seems free and easy down the road I go.

Bus sounds like a pain with times/stops/paying. Oh, times particularly going late. Then there's my complete lack of understanding of the bus routes... I know damn well where the streetcar is going every time I jump on. (I realize that could be easily fixed by probably a quick google search)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2016, 01:23:40 PM
i might like this rockstate guy more than i originally thought.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 17, 2016, 03:03:29 PM
I can't stand driving downtown as it is now. So many dumbasses who don't know where they are, what's a one way, buses, ppl walking the streets, parking, etc. When it's cold, I drive to Cosentinos, & sometimes it can be a long process. I swear there's been a concert at the Midland every day for the last two weeks too. I can't wait for it to get nice out.

Silver lining tho.  the only reason it's hard to drive is because there's so much activity downtown right now.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2016, 03:13:20 PM
True.. true.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on February 17, 2016, 03:21:38 PM
which one of you scumbags is gonna go skydiving first?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 17, 2016, 04:44:40 PM
thought about it, it's stupidly expensive though so i said nah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2016, 05:12:26 PM
thought about it, it's stupidly expensive though so i said nah

Yeah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 17, 2016, 10:38:11 PM
thought about it, it's stupidly expensive though so i said nah
Yeah, $80 for 60 seconds or something. Insane. I'll just go skydiving IRL thanks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2016, 11:57:53 PM
The streetcar seems really silly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 08:46:56 AM
The streetcar seems really silly.

Sorry to hear that. Expansion to UMKC will be a big step in lessening the "silly" feeling people have  IMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 08:51:28 AM
The streetcar seems really silly.

Sorry to hear that. Expansion to UMKC will be a big step in lessening the "silly" feeling people have  IMO.

does the rider demographic change halfway down main st?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 08:51:54 AM
The streetcar seems really silly.

Sorry to hear that. Expansion to UMKC will be a big step in lessening the "silly" feeling people have  IMO.

spending more tax dollars on something i dont think will work will not lessen my silly feeling
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 08:56:09 AM
The streetcar seems really silly.

Sorry to hear that. Expansion to UMKC will be a big step in lessening the "silly" feeling people have  IMO.

spending more tax dollars on something i dont think will work will not lessen my silly feeling

Can't please everybody. Lots of tax dollars spent on crap I couldn't care less about... Just the way it is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 09:15:34 AM
Yup, can't please everybody, just the 300 people who live in downtown's TDD who got a free toy train to look at!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 09:20:35 AM
Yup, can't please everybody, just the 300 people who live in downtown's TDD who got a free toy train to look at!
I think it makes a lot of kc folks outside of that area feel better about their inferiority complex.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
To be fair thousands live in the TDD, they just didn't vote... And that 300 more than voted for the plaza TDD or the Ameristar TDD that pays for parking lots using sales tax on all purchases in those locations.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 09:23:40 AM
Yup, can't please everybody, just the 300 people who live in downtown's TDD who got a free toy train to look at!
I think it makes a lot of kc folks outside of that area feel better about their inferiority complex.

Ahhh the old inferiority complex angle. Always a favorite.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 09:26:25 AM
Yup, can't please everybody, just the 300 people who live in downtown's TDD who got a free toy train to look at!
I think it makes a lot of kc folks outside of that area feel better about their inferiority complex.

Ahhh the old inferiority complex angle. Always a favorite.
I mean, when a group of people scream that they need public transportation but are too snotty to demean themselves to ride a (gulp) bus...I don't know whether it's an inferiority complex but it's certainly something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 09:28:13 AM
Yeah, is there a list of real tangible benefits this line will provide to the city?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 09:29:46 AM
Yup, can't please everybody, just the 300 people who live in downtown's TDD who got a free toy train to look at!
I think it makes a lot of kc folks outside of that area feel better about their inferiority complex.

Ahhh the old inferiority complex angle. Always a favorite.
I mean, when a group of people scream that they need public transportation but are too snotty to demean themselves to ride a (gulp) bus...I don't know whether it's an inferiority complex but it's certainly something.
I think it ties back to them seeing white people riding trains in what they consider to be "real cities". Just a theory though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 09:29:58 AM
Almost everyone I know backing the streetcar rides the bus on the regular....the dorks that say they will ride the streetcar but never ride a bus are typically the hayseed immigrants from Western Kansas... And I'm all on board with saying they have some sort of weird complex.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 09:34:58 AM
Yup, can't please everybody, just the 300 people who live in downtown's TDD who got a free toy train to look at!
I think it makes a lot of kc folks outside of that area feel better about their inferiority complex.

Ahhh the old inferiority complex angle. Always a favorite.
I mean, when a group of people scream that they need public transportation but are too snotty to demean themselves to ride a (gulp) bus...I don't know whether it's an inferiority complex but it's certainly something.
I think it ties back to them seeing white people riding trains in what they consider to be "real cities". Just a theory though.

I think that is a solid theory. Let's just not blanket the entire KC metro with it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 09:36:14 AM
Almost everyone I know backing the streetcar rides the bus on the regular....the dorks that say they will ride the streetcar but never ride a bus are typically the hayseed immigrants from Western Kansas... And I'm all on board with saying they have some sort of weird complex.
OK so it sounds like we're at least in agreement that the streetcar adds next to nothing to the existing public transportation -- at least nothing that a few more busses or routes wouldn't. 

It's a gimmick meant to spike development around the streetcar line. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 09:39:16 AM
Not one person has ever stated this 2 mile line alone is some sort of transit savior.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 09:40:00 AM
Almost everyone I know backing the streetcar rides the bus on the regular....the dorks that say they will ride the streetcar but never ride a bus are typically the hayseed immigrants from Western Kansas... And I'm all on board with saying they have some sort of weird complex.
OK so it sounds like we're at least in agreement that the streetcar adds next to nothing to the existing public transportation -- at least nothing that a few more busses or routes wouldn't. 

It's a gimmick meant to spike development around the streetcar line. 

which is great because these guys can't stop talking about a main street - UMKC expansion
can't wait for the development to hit that underdeveloped area
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 09:41:42 AM
Not one person has ever stated this 2 mile line alone is some sort of transit savior.
I'm not saying it has to be a transit savior.  I'm saying that the streetcar, along with whatever other city-wide line (that may or may not happen), seems completely superfluous from a transportation perspective. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 09:48:09 AM
Not one person has ever stated this 2 mile line alone is some sort of transit savior.
I'm not saying it has to be a transit savior.  I'm saying that the streetcar, along with whatever other city-wide line (that may or may not happen), seems completely superfluous from a transportation perspective.

I'm not going to agree with terms like gimmicky and superfluous when it comes to building out a city wide fixed line that could include commuter rail from the east and Southwest along with streetcar lines South and over the river to the north. Nextrailkc.com would be where I'd point you for much more in depth info that I can give you if you are truly interested.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on February 18, 2016, 09:50:57 AM
Bitching about "hayseed immigrants from Western Kansas" is a pretty perfect example of the cowtown complex you're trying to deny.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 09:55:51 AM
streetcar supporters keep conflating light rail and the streetcar.  no, the streetcar is not a piece of the greater public transportation system.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 09:59:31 AM
streetcar supporters keep conflating light rail and the streetcar.  no, the streetcar is not a piece of the greater public transportation system.

Okay.
http://humantransit.org/2010/03/streetcars-vs-light-rail-is-there-a-difference.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 10:04:12 AM
streetcar supporters keep conflating light rail and the streetcar.  no, the streetcar is not a piece of the greater public transportation system.

Okay.
http://humantransit.org/2010/03/streetcars-vs-light-rail-is-there-a-difference.html

lol at a blog written by jarrett walker (is this the appropriate way to dismiss the article?) (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27915.msg1523016#msg1523016)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on February 18, 2016, 10:08:05 AM
what about a party streetcar. Is that something everyone can get behind?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 18, 2016, 10:11:07 AM
what about a party streetcar. Is that something everyone can get behind?

As long as we can keep the homeless off it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 10:12:54 AM
Not one person has ever stated this 2 mile line alone is some sort of transit savior.
I'm not saying it has to be a transit savior.  I'm saying that the streetcar, along with whatever other city-wide line (that may or may not happen), seems completely superfluous from a transportation perspective.

I'm not going to agree with terms like gimmicky and superfluous when it comes to building out a city wide fixed line that could include commuter rail from the east and Southwest along with streetcar lines South and over the river to the north.
Right.  But your post makes several assumptions, namely:

1.  That the broader city lines will be built;
2.  That enough people will use them so that it can be considered actually useful; and if 1 and 2 are true
3.  That a similar bus system, if implemented, would fail (for whatever reason)

I don't think any one of those things are true, and all three of them must be true for this thing to be anything other than superfluous, imho.

Now, if it is superfluous, and it's mainly aimed at increasing development around the line or lines, then fine.  I get that.  But if that's the case, then I think the streetcar is less about transportation, and more about having a fun (albeit risky) gimmick to spur business. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 10:16:54 AM
Streetcars have been known to focus development and that was one of the benefits touted of the KC line. Just not the only benefit.

There is one sure fire way to ensure a city wide system doesn't get built, that is to never start it. This is the beginning of hopefully many expansions.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 10:18:40 AM
Streetcars have been known to focus development and that was one of the benefits touted of the KC line. Just not the only benefit.

There is one sure fire way to ensure a city wide system doesn't get built, that is to never start it. This is the beginning of hopefully many expansions.
There's also one sure fire way to ensure that a city doesn't blow millions of dollars on what may be a really stupid idea, that is to never start it.

You still haven't explained to me the transportation benefits of a streetcar that a bus doesn't offer. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 10:19:13 AM
Would downtown KC ever have the mass that would require commuter rail, or even make it useful? Hard to imagine with the availability of cheap land and municipalities and states poaching large employers from other parts of the metro.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 10:37:50 AM
what about a party streetcar. Is that something everyone can get behind?

the party trolley car has gone out of business, twice.  maybe just not enough development along its lines.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 10:44:57 AM
Streetcars have been known to focus development and that was one of the benefits touted of the KC line. Just not the only benefit.

There is one sure fire way to ensure a city wide system doesn't get built, that is to never start it. This is the beginning of hopefully many expansions.
There's also one sure fire way to ensure that a city doesn't blow millions of dollars on what may be a really stupid idea, that is to never start it.

You still haven't explained to me the transportation benefits of a streetcar that a bus doesn't offer.

Feel free to google fix rail vs bus... I'm obviously not going to convince you as I'm in no way a transit expert.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 10:48:25 AM
Would downtown KC ever have the mass that would require commuter rail, or even make it useful? Hard to imagine with the availability of cheap land and municipalities and states poaching large employers from other parts of the metro.

That is a big question given kc past after the original streetcar line was removed. A fixed commuter line would begin to focus suburban development too... Instead of this shotgun approach kc metro suburbs have now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 10:51:36 AM


I'm in no way a transit expert.

You kind of talk down to people opposed to the streetcar like you are.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 18, 2016, 10:57:57 AM
last night me and ms. blast met some friends at the opera house in the city market and commented on how it would have been perfect for the streetcar. so thank you to everyone who is chipping in for this thing that i will eventually use occasionally.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 10:58:07 AM
im no civil engineer or city planning expert (i work in investment banking) but i have a close friend who is a civil engineer and works at a transportation firm and he says just about everyone at his office thinks the street car is a gigantic waste of money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 10:58:55 AM
Apologize if I come off that way to actual valid questions vs "streetcar is dumb" comments. Not my intent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2016, 10:59:39 AM
A guy who designs massive parking lots is mad about public transportation?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 10:59:50 AM
I love the Pissclams anger over this thing - given the fact he's not paying for it.  The City is using the TDD approach for funding - it's not taking money out of the general fund or imposing a city-wide tax.  So, unless you live/shop in the downtown TDD, you'll never spend a single penny on this thing. Of course, he already knows how this works, because midtown/plaza/brookside residents already voted down the TDD that would have brought the streetcar to UMKC. 

The system worked like it was supposed to.  downtown businesses/residents voted to build the streetcar, midtown residents voted against it. 

Maybe it's a big fancy toy that won't amount to crap.  who knows.  just like P&L and Sprint Center.  Long term, who knows if it's worth the investment.  But, the facts seem pretty clear that things like P&L/SC and now, the streetcar, are driving downtown development.  All along the streetcar corridor buildings are going up and surface lots are going away.  Residential numbers are booming.  in the last 10 years the number of downtown residents has increased from 5,000 to +20,000.  This is obviously not all due to a streetcar line.  But, a lot of it could be due to simply providing prospective residents with the basic necessities of a modern downtown area. 

It could be all smoke and mirrors.  But, the really strange thing is that every modern city in America has a rail system that feeds into the downtown area.  And every downtown area has a circulator of some sort - whether it's a fixed bus lane (Denver), or streetcar (Portland, Dallas, Seattle, etc.).  This may be pure coincidence.  Or, maybe, these cities are onto something.         
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 11:00:28 AM
phil, i appreciate your level attitude towards this and your willingness to discuss the streetcar from a different point of view. i just disagree with you. :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on February 18, 2016, 11:01:12 AM
Almost everyone I know backing the streetcar rides the bus on the regular....the dorks that say they will ride the streetcar but never ride a bus are typically the hayseed immigrants from Western Kansas... And I'm all on board with saying they have some sort of weird complex.

I knew I was atypical. Happy to have it verified.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 11:03:07 AM
phil, i appreciate your level attitude towards this and your willingness to discuss the streetcar from a different point of view. i just disagree with you. :cheers:

Cheers. Its hard to log into goEMAW.com and try and put away that persona for actual discussion... Which is why I told clams we should drinks beers and talk about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
It could be all smoke and mirrors.  But, the really strange thing is that every modern city in America has a rail system that feeds into the downtown area.  And every downtown area has a circulator of some sort - whether it's a fixed bus lane (Denver), or streetcar (Portland, Dallas, Seattle, etc.).  This may be pure coincidence.  Or, maybe, these cities are onto something.         

this doesnt feed into the downtown area. it just travels through it. the people of midtown/plaza/brookside voted against it because it doesnt make sense. they built part of it anyway like a sort of "well build part of it now and show you guys how great it is so you change your minds." which is a terrible waste of money...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 11:07:01 AM
It could be all smoke and mirrors.  But, the really strange thing is that every modern city in America has a rail system that feeds into the downtown area.  And every downtown area has a circulator of some sort - whether it's a fixed bus lane (Denver), or streetcar (Portland, Dallas, Seattle, etc.).  This may be pure coincidence.  Or, maybe, these cities are onto something.         

this doesnt feed into the downtown area. it just travels through it. the people of midtown/plaza/brookside voted against it because it doesnt make sense. they built part of it anyway like a sort of "well build part of it now and show you guys how great it is so you change your minds." which is a terrible waste of money...

Midtown voted in favor by a 60 percent margin. South of the plaza and east killed the phase 2 election. Hence phase 2 take 2 will be to umkc to where people wanted it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 11:15:08 AM
It could be all smoke and mirrors.  But, the really strange thing is that every modern city in America has a rail system that feeds into the downtown area.  And every downtown area has a circulator of some sort - whether it's a fixed bus lane (Denver), or streetcar (Portland, Dallas, Seattle, etc.).  This may be pure coincidence.  Or, maybe, these cities are onto something.         

this doesnt feed into the downtown area. it just travels through it. the people of midtown/plaza/brookside voted against it because it doesnt make sense. they built part of it anyway like a sort of "well build part of it now and show you guys how great it is so you change your minds." which is a terrible waste of money...

Right.  the streetcar is the downtown circulator part of the plan.  Not the regional rail part of the plan.  After 30 years of rough ridin' around with mass transit (which again exists in every modern city in the world) the City finally just said let's get shovels in the ground.  kind of a "if you build it, they will come" approach. 

Maybe it will be a massive waste of money, guess we'll find out. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 11:24:56 AM
well why not try the "if you build it, they will come" thing again? it worked for P&L and the sprint center! :flush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 11:28:12 AM
Sprint center is a huge success as is P&L....p&l does cost the city money due annually to the massive public garages underground that are city assets and upgraded utilities.... Not because bar Louie doesn't sell enough dollar beers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 11:28:47 AM
well why not try the "if you build it, they will come" thing again? it worked for P&L and the sprint center! :flush:

I'm confused. 

I would say it absolutely worked for P&L and Sprint Center.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 11:35:24 AM
If I had to guess, the people in this thread opposing the streetcar and/or SC/P&L, neither live nor work downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 11:37:21 AM
If I had to guess, the people in this thread opposing the streetcar and/or SC/P&L, neither live nor work downtown.
I live in Chicago.  But I think I'm still allowed to take interest in what's going on in my favorite city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
If I had to guess, the people in this thread opposing the streetcar and/or SC/P&L, neither live nor work downtown.
I live in Chicago.  But I think I'm still allowed to take interest in what's going on in my favorite city.

I didn't say you're not allowed to.  I just think living/working downtown (especially pre-SC/P&L) provides helpful perspective about the things we're currently discussing. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 18, 2016, 11:49:25 AM
well why not try the "if you build it, they will come" thing again? it worked for P&L and the sprint center! :flush:


Lolol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 18, 2016, 11:58:47 AM
If I had to guess, the people in this thread opposing the streetcar and/or SC/P&L, neither live nor work downtown.

That doesn't invalidate opinions
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:04:29 PM
I live downtown and I don't want it. It's been a cluster eff in the river market. I can only imagine had I stayed at my place off Delaware.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 18, 2016, 12:05:19 PM
You mean the construction of it was a clusterfuck?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:08:41 PM
You mean the construction of it was a clusterfuck?
Yes. I imagine it will be more clustery when it's up and going too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 12:09:23 PM
i might be off base here but everything ive read about PnL and the SC say theyre way off from revenue projections and are taking much longer to pay off debt than anticipated.

i enjoy having both there like 3 times a year, just like i probably will the street car. doesnt mean i dont think theyre a huge waste of money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:10:10 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 12:10:53 PM
You mean the construction of it was a clusterfuck?
Yes. I imagine it will be more clustery when it's up and going too.

construction of anything going in where existing traffic is is always going to be a clusterfuck. people who think construction inconvenience is a reason to dislike something are impatient. infrastructure isnt built at the snap of a finger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:11:21 PM
I think the major hang up right now is the cost for a rail system that goes like 2 blocks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2016, 12:12:22 PM
You mean the construction of it was a clusterfuck?
Yes. I imagine it will be more clustery when it's up and going too.

Why?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 12:12:34 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 12:13:50 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?

for me, its the cost that the money could have been used somewhere else (i know theres a billion hoops to jump through for stuff) that would benefit the city more than a streetcar. i believe its a shiny new toy the city wants to brag about that doesnt offer much tangible benefit to the citizens.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:15:57 PM
You mean the construction of it was a clusterfuck?
Yes. I imagine it will be more clustery when it's up and going too.

Why?
Well, it will be on the street, where traffic is. Ppl wil clog up at the stops, etc. I was talking about how hard it already is to get to cosentinos from my place right now. My grocery store and gym. Between all the one way streets, concerts at the midland, the convention center, dumb downtown drivers that don't know where they're going, buses, and now the rail, it will be manic down there. However, I guess that's what you get for living downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:17:19 PM
You mean the construction of it was a clusterfuck?
Yes. I imagine it will be more clustery when it's up and going too.

Why?
Well, it will be on the street, where traffic is. Ppl wil clog up at the stops, etc. I was talking about how hard it already is to get to cosentinos from my place right now. My grocery store and gym. Between all the one way streets, concerts at the midland, the convention center, dumb downtown drivers that don't know where they're going, buses, and now the rail, it will be manic down there. However, I guess that's what you get for living downtown.

Yeah, that's just called living in a city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 12:17:56 PM
fanning, i think youre looking at this a little too microscopically
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:18:38 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?

for me, its the cost that the money could have been used somewhere else (i know theres a billion hoops to jump through for stuff) that would benefit the city more than a streetcar. i believe its a shiny new toy the city wants to brag about that doesnt offer much tangible benefit to the citizens.

But if it's strictly paid through a specific sales tax (and eventual fares if they build out a rail) then what's the problem?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 18, 2016, 12:20:15 PM
i live downtown so i think it's cool and will use it.

if i didn't live downtown i would have to drive downtown anyway so what's the point?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:20:26 PM
Streetcar funding breakdown
37M in federal transportation funding... I mean this could be used for other transportation projects in kc or around the country
Remaining 70 million comes from property and sales tax within the TDD... And a fee on surface parking lots. Not general city finds that could be used for other things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:20:38 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:20:58 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

Which one said that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2016, 12:21:23 PM
A good portion of the riders will be out of towners. High visibility and a simple fixed line are much easier to navigate for these people. These are also people that are very unlikely to take a city bus anywhere.

Busses have their place, but I don't think they jive with the goals of this line.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:22:21 PM
You mean the construction of it was a clusterfuck?
Yes. I imagine it will be more clustery when it's up and going too.

Why?
Well, it will be on the street, where traffic is. Ppl wil clog up at the stops, etc. I was talking about how hard it already is to get to cosentinos from my place right now. My grocery store and gym. Between all the one way streets, concerts at the midland, the convention center, dumb downtown drivers that don't know where they're going, buses, and now the rail, it will be manic down there. However, I guess that's what you get for living downtown.

You drive to one life?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 12:22:49 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

Which one said that?
the top three "bus vs. light rail" google responses. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 12:24:07 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
In what way, exactly?  Aside from it being free.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:24:22 PM
You mean the construction of it was a clusterfuck?
Yes. I imagine it will be more clustery when it's up and going too.

Why?
Well, it will be on the street, where traffic is. Ppl wil clog up at the stops, etc. I was talking about how hard it already is to get to cosentinos from my place right now. My grocery store and gym. Between all the one way streets, concerts at the midland, the convention center, dumb downtown drivers that don't know where they're going, buses, and now the rail, it will be manic down there. However, I guess that's what you get for living downtown.

You drive to one life?  :facepalm:
It's been cold. I run there now. I'm not going to run there in the cold. I'm not some peasant.  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 12:24:47 PM
I think the major hang up right now is the cost for a rail system that goes like 2 blocks.

What is that cost?  for you specifically? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
i live downtown so i think it's cool and will use it.

if i didn't live downtown i would have to drive downtown anyway so what's the point?

Here is where I see their benefit. Park once and hit many destinations. Yes they could also do this on the main max but they don't for the most part... Whether due to cost or confusion of where it went or perception. I see a lot more people that let's say go to union station with the kids, instead of now driving to go eat at Johnny's in p&l... They leave the car parked and streetcar there... Then they are more likely to keep exploring the city versus driving point to point to point then home.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:27:46 PM
I think the major hang up right now is the cost for a rail system that goes like 2 blocks.

What is that cost?  for you specifically?
I have no clue. Whatever the taxes are.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:28:24 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
In what way, exactly?  Aside from it being free.

That is not a small benefit. Also fixed rail people know where it's going more easily. I can't fully explain it but there is no doubt that mindset exists.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:28:55 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
In what way, exactly?  Aside from it being free.

It will help development down there and then the light rail hub will be placed along that line in the future.  Just like other cities have done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 18, 2016, 12:30:23 PM
How much of KCMO's general fund is supported by the 1% income tax?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:30:49 PM
I think the major hang up right now is the cost for a rail system that goes like 2 blocks.

What is that cost?  for you specifically?
I have no clue. Whatever the taxes are.

1 cent sales tax downtown...additionally If you owned your condo would be about $200 to 300 per year in property tax... If you rent your rent will go up in part to cover that expense from your landlord.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 12:32:12 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
In what way, exactly?  Aside from it being free.

It will help development down there and then the light rail hub will be placed along that line in the future.  Just like other cities have done.
bolstering development makes it more "convenient" than busses?   :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:32:27 PM
 
How much of KCMO's general fund is supported by the 1% income tax?

Approximately 40%...50% of that is paid by non kcmo residents.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:33:22 PM
Streetcar funding breakdown
37M in federal transportation funding... I mean this could be used for other transportation projects in kc or around the country
Remaining 70 million comes from property and sales tax within the TDD... And a fee on surface parking lots. Not general city finds that could be used for other things.

The federal funding they are applying for this project I believe can be used for rail only.  It can't be used for bus or other transportation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 12:33:35 PM
I think the major hang up right now is the cost for a rail system that goes like 2 blocks.

What is that cost?  for you specifically?
I have no clue. Whatever the taxes are.

so your major hang up for this project is the cost - of which you are completely clueless? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:33:58 PM
I think the major hang up right now is the cost for a rail system that goes like 2 blocks.

What is that cost?  for you specifically?
I have no clue. Whatever the taxes are.

1 cent sales tax downtown...additionally If you owned your condo would be about $200 to 300 per year in property tax... If you rent your rent will go up in part to cover that expense from your landlord.
:curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:35:03 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
In what way, exactly?  Aside from it being free.

It will help development down there and then the light rail hub will be placed along that line in the future.  Just like other cities have done.
bolstering development makes it more "convenient" than busses?   :confused: :confused:

From a density perspective sure. If it focuses development it is more convenient for users at a stop to be in easy distance to multiple things... I mean kind of a stretch but anybody who frequents the crossroads now can attest to, it's a bit shotgun pattern when going from place to place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 12:35:46 PM
Streetcar funding breakdown
37M in federal transportation funding... I mean this could be used for other transportation projects in kc or around the country
Remaining 70 million comes from property and sales tax within the TDD... And a fee on surface parking lots. Not general city finds that could be used for other things.

The federal funding they are applying for this project I believe can be used for rail only.  It can't be used for bus or other transportation.
I think that's a dumb stipulation, but if that's the case, then I can at least begin to understand how KC's decision makes sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:36:07 PM
I think the major hang up right now is the cost for a rail system that goes like 2 blocks.

What is that cost?  for you specifically?
I have no clue. Whatever the taxes are.

so your major hang up for this project is the cost - of which you are completely clueless?
I'll be honest, I don't follow that stuff too much, but Phil just answered that question for us and I'd rather have that $ in my pocket. I walk everywhere downtown anyways. Ms. Wacky and I do this with our friends to exercise and to try different places on the weekend. I could see it being of value in the winter, but not the spring through fall.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 12:37:59 PM
http://media.kshb.com/pdf/Streetcar%20Impact%20Report.pdf?_ga=1.234208094.1378000160.1455820225

"34 individuals representing 46 projects in the Transportation Development District (TDD) responded to the Kansas City Streetcar District Questionnaire. The Questionnaire accounted for over $750 Million in total private investment.  Respondents linked over $609 million in private investment to the planned streetcar line as either a positive or major positive influence in their location decision. Note that responses were not received for several developments and the survey as implemented has not captured the full extent of economic activity in the TDD. The questionnaire results do indicate that directly contacting the business community is a promising method for assessing the impact of public investment on private investment decisions."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:39:27 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
In what way, exactly?  Aside from it being free.

It will help development down there and then the light rail hub will be placed along that line in the future.  Just like other cities have done.
bolstering development makes it more "convenient" than busses?   :confused: :confused:

From an article...

Streetcars have greater capacity than buses.

Streetcars can be more affordable than buses over the long term.

Streetcar tracks reassure riders they’re on the right route.

Streetcars stand out.

Streetcars are more comfortable to ride than buses.

Streetcars are economic development magnets.

Streetcars are quieter and cleaner than buses.

Streetcars are sometimes faster than buses.

Most streetcars have at least 3 doors, and many models have 4 or more. That means passengers at stations can load and unload faster, meaning streetcars can spend more time actually moving, and less time dwelling at stations waiting for passengers. Thus, when streetcars are not held up by other traffic, they’re faster than buses.

Streetcars attract more riders than buses.

For all these reasons, people who would never consider riding a bus will ride a streetcar. Operational details trump all else, but when every other detail is equal, rail attracts more riders.
Of course, buses are useful tools too, and are the right choice in many (in fact most) situations. Buses must be a major part of every city’s transit network, including both local and rapid bus routes. But buses are demonstrably different than streetcars. They have different characteristics, accomplish different goals, and are more appropriate in different places.

Bus advantages:

Buses are usually cheaper.

Buses can put more service in more places.

Buses are more flexible.

Buses can skip ahead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 12:40:23 PM
I think the major hang up right now is the cost for a rail system that goes like 2 blocks.

What is that cost?  for you specifically?
I have no clue. Whatever the taxes are.

so your major hang up for this project is the cost - of which you are completely clueless?
I'll be honest, I don't follow that stuff too much, but Phil just answered that question for us and I'd rather have that $ in my pocket. I walk everywhere downtown anyways. Ms. Wacky and I do this with our friends to exercise and to try different places on the weekend. I could see it being of value in the winter, but not the spring through fall.

Wacky... I actually agree with you here somewhat. I walk practically everywhere and many times ask myself "can I see me using the streetcar here instead". Mostly it's a yes in cold, or if I'm coming from deep southern crossroads and know it's time for me to be home... Or walking back with a watermelon from city market.... Or the lack of time I spend at crown center that I think I will go to more (halls rocks).

The fact is though many people aren't as able bodied and able to walk like that.... Go hang out in the lobby of the downtown Marriott and listen to the bellman tell people how to get somewhere on foot...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:42:06 PM
Yeah, that's a good point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:43:43 PM
You underestimate how awesome it is to have a highly developed area along the line where you can jump around with ease.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
In what way, exactly?  Aside from it being free.

It will help development down there and then the light rail hub will be placed along that line in the future.  Just like other cities have done.
bolstering development makes it more "convenient" than busses?   :confused: :confused:

From an article...

Streetcars have greater capacity than buses.

Streetcars can be more affordable than buses over the long term.

Streetcar tracks reassure riders they’re on the right route.

Streetcars stand out.

Streetcars are more comfortable to ride than buses.

Streetcars are economic development magnets.

Streetcars are quieter and cleaner than buses.

Streetcars are sometimes faster than buses.

Most streetcars have at least 3 doors, and many models have 4 or more. That means passengers at stations can load and unload faster, meaning streetcars can spend more time actually moving, and less time dwelling at stations waiting for passengers. Thus, when streetcars are not held up by other traffic, they’re faster than buses.

Streetcars attract more riders than buses.

For all these reasons, people who would never consider riding a bus will ride a streetcar. Operational details trump all else, but when every other detail is equal, rail attracts more riders.
Of course, buses are useful tools too, and are the right choice in many (in fact most) situations. Buses must be a major part of every city’s transit network, including both local and rapid bus routes. But buses are demonstrably different than streetcars. They have different characteristics, accomplish different goals, and are more appropriate in different places.

Bus advantages:

Buses are usually cheaper.

Buses can put more service in more places.

Buses are more flexible.

Buses can skip ahead.
Couldn't all of those apply to a fancy articulated electric brt bus a with a dedicated/isolated lane or something? Maybe design a new bus just for kc that addresses all those problems and is more appropriate for kc's needs? Do something new and lead rather than worry about playing catchup with "every modern city"?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 18, 2016, 12:49:21 PM
I wish there was a train/light rail along I 35 from Olathe to River Market.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 12:53:51 PM
I don't understand what the main anti-rail reasoning is... 

Is it cost?
Is it something about homeless people?
Is it simply because you wouldn't use it?

What's the main hangup here?
My only hang up is that I think it makes very little sense from a transportation perspective.  I looked at blogs like Totola suggested, and I couldn't find anything beyond "perception" as reasons a streetcar makes more sense than busses.

It's a foot in the door approach to a rail system, which is more convenient than a bus system.  Denver has now low speed/high speed rail, Mall Ride (Basically our version of streetcar) and a complex bus system that travels every block it seems and all are highly used.
In what way, exactly?  Aside from it being free.

It will help development down there and then the light rail hub will be placed along that line in the future.  Just like other cities have done.
bolstering development makes it more "convenient" than busses?   :confused: :confused:

From an article...

Streetcars have greater capacity than buses.

Streetcars can be more affordable than buses over the long term.

Streetcar tracks reassure riders they’re on the right route.

Streetcars stand out.

Streetcars are more comfortable to ride than buses.

Streetcars are economic development magnets.

Streetcars are quieter and cleaner than buses.

Streetcars are sometimes faster than buses.

Most streetcars have at least 3 doors, and many models have 4 or more. That means passengers at stations can load and unload faster, meaning streetcars can spend more time actually moving, and less time dwelling at stations waiting for passengers. Thus, when streetcars are not held up by other traffic, they’re faster than buses.

Streetcars attract more riders than buses.

For all these reasons, people who would never consider riding a bus will ride a streetcar. Operational details trump all else, but when every other detail is equal, rail attracts more riders.
Of course, buses are useful tools too, and are the right choice in many (in fact most) situations. Buses must be a major part of every city’s transit network, including both local and rapid bus routes. But buses are demonstrably different than streetcars. They have different characteristics, accomplish different goals, and are more appropriate in different places.

Bus advantages:

Buses are usually cheaper.

Buses can put more service in more places.

Buses are more flexible.

Buses can skip ahead.
Couldn't all of those apply to a fancy articulated electric brt bus a with a dedicated/isolated lane or something? Maybe design a new bus just for kc that addresses all those problems and is more appropriate for kc's needs? Do something new and lead rather than worry about playing catchup with "every modern city"?

It can and is not new and lead.  Denver has the MallRide (since the 80s) which is a designated bus line with it's own lane and are semi-electric. 

And what's the difference between a streetcar on a fixed line and a artculated electric bus with a dedicated lane?  It's the exact same thing except you'd have to pull from the general bus system funding instead of being able to apply for federal rail funding that is separate.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 12:57:15 PM
And what's the difference between a streetcar on a fixed line and a artculated electric bus with a dedicated lane?  It's the exact same thing except you'd have to pull from the general bus system funding instead of being able to apply for federal rail funding that is separate.
A bus with a dedicated lane wouldn't have to sit in traffic.  From my understanding, the streetcar line is going to be mixed with traffic.

Also, busses can go around obstacles in the road (deliveries, taxi/uber drop-offs, etc.).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 12:59:31 PM
If this thing ends up going all the way to Waldo, i'll be happy with it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 12:59:56 PM
It can and is not new and lead.  Denver has the MallRide (since the 80s) which is a designated bus line with it's own lane and are semi-electric. 

I'm saying take it even further and closer to a streetcar line than this:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/16th-street-mallride.jpg/1920px-16th-street-mallride.jpg)

And the federal rail funding that was (I'm assuming) expertly lobbied in is a good point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 01:04:07 PM
And the federal rail funding that was (I'm assuming) expertly lobbied in is a good point.
Agreed.  Though I think funding for "clean" busses should have been included in the grant as well, but thems the breaks I suppose.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2016, 01:05:05 PM
Streetcars will be coordinated with the stoplights
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
It can and is not new and lead.  Denver has the MallRide (since the 80s) which is a designated bus line with it's own lane and are semi-electric. 

I'm saying take it even further and closer to a streetcar line than this:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/16th-street-mallride.jpg/1920px-16th-street-mallride.jpg)

And the federal rail funding that was (I'm assuming) expertly lobbied in is a good point.

What's the difference between that, a streetcar, or what you are thinking?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on February 18, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
So streetcar opposition is upset with spending money on an alternate form of public transportation?  And they are aware that they are currently spending over three times as much to pay Clark Hunt's taxes?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 01:14:31 PM
I have no idea where I got this so take it for what it's worth but a true brt system (exclusive lanes, etc)  can cost equal per mile as streetcar... I'll try and hunt down the source.

Edit... Correction what I read was it costs much more than people realize... One close to true Brt in Cleveland cost 200M for 7 miles for example.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 01:19:21 PM
I wish there was a train/light rail along I 35 from Olathe to River Market.

Contact your leaders and tell them you want that. Streetcar was built to handle this addition.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 01:24:05 PM
I have no idea where I got this so take it for what it's worth but a true brt system (exclusive lanes, etc)  can cost equal per mile as streetcar... I'll try and hunt down the source.

Stakeholders also mentioned several factors that could lead to different amounts and types of economic development in BRT corridors compared to rail transit corridors. For instance, the greater prestige and permanence associated with rail transit may lead to more development and investment in rail transit corridors than in BRT corridors. Transit agency and other local officials also noted that BRT station areas might experience less investment and development than rail station areas because transit agencies may not own large amounts of land around BRT stations on which to build or support transit-oriented developments.43 Los Angeles city officials told us that one of the primary economic development benefits of light rail is that surplus property around the stations can be developed. Kansas City ATA officials told us that the agency owns only a few properties along Troost Avenue, which limits its ability to incentivize economic development in and around the BRT corridor. One real estate expert we spoke with noted that BRT may be better at supporting small- scale retail and residential developments, affordable housing developments, and medical facilities than rail transit, since these types of developments are often priced out of rail station-area markets. (p38-39)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 01:25:11 PM
Quote
Even though a streetcar has significantly lower capital costs than a subway system, it is still a larger investment than a BRT system, sometimes costing twice as much. For example, Arlington’s Columbia Pike streetcar’s capital costs are around $51M/mile while Lansing’s Michigan/Grand River BRT is around $24M/mile (based on estimates found on their websites). However, streetcar systems bring with them benefits that BRT systems cannot leverage. Streetcars carry more passengers, more quickly, and they attract more “choice riders” and tourists, people who typically don’t feel comfortable riding a bus. Also, streetcars signal to the private sector that that corridor is important to the community; the predictability of transit service can bring increased economic development, thereby increasing local tax revenue, and garnering various community benefits. An commensurate increase in density can create places that enable people to drive less and walk, bike and ride transit more often.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 01:29:56 PM
I wish there was a train/light rail along I 35 from Olathe to River Market.

Contact your leaders and tell them you want that. Streetcar was built to handle this addition.

Which is why I said the streetcar is a foot in the door approach to eventually expanding it out like that.  It'll prove itself eventually with development among other benefits and investors will push further expansion and calm the fears of south KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 01:57:41 PM
Streetcar funding breakdown
37M in federal transportation funding... I mean this could be used for other transportation projects in kc or around the country
Remaining 70 million comes from property and sales tax within the TDD... And a fee on surface parking lots. Not general city finds that could be used for other things.

The federal funding they are applying for this project I believe can be used for rail only.  It can't be used for bus or other transportation.
I think that's a dumb stipulation, but if that's the case, then I can at least begin to understand how KC's decision makes sense.

except that the streetcar isn't "rail" which dub hasn't figured out yet

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 02:01:59 PM
Is anyone going to buy one of those houses for a $1?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 18, 2016, 02:02:59 PM
How much of KCMO's general fund is supported by the 1% income tax?

Approximately 40%...50% of that is paid by non kcmo residents.

And this is why KCMO can get eff'd (IMO).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 02:04:39 PM
How much of KCMO's general fund is supported by the 1% income tax?

Approximately 40%...50% of that is paid by non kcmo residents.

And this is why KCMO can get eff'd (IMO).

Okay. Not a very regional way to think of it but it's your O so go with it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 02:06:07 PM
I love the Pissclams anger over this thing - given the fact he's not paying for it.
did KCMO sign a free maintenance contract?

i'm not angry, i'm frustrated with this city government that continually does stupid crap against the wishes of the people who live here.  as i've mentioned numerous times in this thread- every time (at least 8 times), when the issue of streetcar/light rail was put up for vote in the general election, the voters said no by a resounding margin.   ignoring that vote, sly went the tdd route and put the vote up to about 500 registered voters (the majority of which are renters who don't have longterm stake in the game and who aren't responsible for underwriting his stupid idea) and disallowed the business owners who are funding the thing from voting. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on February 18, 2016, 02:09:50 PM
i might be off base here but everything ive read about PnL and the SC say theyre way off from revenue projections and are taking much longer to pay off debt than anticipated.

i enjoy having both there like 3 times a year, just like i probably will the street car. doesnt mean i dont think theyre a huge waste of money.

Were the original projections based on having an NHL or NBA tenant within 8 years of opening? If so, I'm sure they are both very behind.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 02:11:17 PM
KCMO schools probably could use some money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 18, 2016, 02:12:13 PM
i might be off base here but everything ive read about PnL and the SC say theyre way off from revenue projections and are taking much longer to pay off debt than anticipated.

i enjoy having both there like 3 times a year, just like i probably will the street car. doesnt mean i dont think theyre a huge waste of money.

Were the original projections based on having an NHL or NBA tenant within 8 years of opening? If so, I'm sure they are both very behind.

i dont know but does it matter? still not what was promised to tax payers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 02:12:37 PM
I love the Pissclams anger over this thing - given the fact he's not paying for it.
did KCMO sign a free maintenance contract?

i'm not angry, i'm frustrated with this city government that continually does stupid crap against the wishes of the people who live here.  as i've mentioned numerous times in this thread- every time (at least 8 times), when the issue of streetcar/light rail was put up for vote in the general election, the voters said no by a resounding margin.   ignoring that vote, sly went the tdd route and put the vote up to about 500 registered voters (the majority of which are renters who don't have longterm stake in the game and who aren't responsible for underwriting his stupid idea) and disallowed the business owners who are funding the thing from voting.

Maintenance is built into the ongoing assessment by the streetcar authority.

Are you equally upset with the TDD on the plaza that nobody voted on? As you know businesses never vote on property taxes. Sprint campus doesn't get to vote on OPKS property taxes they pay....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 02:13:07 PM
questions about p&l?
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/yael-t-abouhalkah/article320542/The-high-costs-of-the-Power--Light-District-for-KC-taxpayers.html

Quote
The high costs of the Power & Light District for KC taxpayers

The one overriding lesson from the entire Power & Light District project is this: The city in the future must do a better job estimating the true costs of projects to taxpayers, never again exposing them to this kind of financial miscalculation.

On July 12, 2007, Kansas City officials issued some pretty precise documents promising that the Power & Light District would pay for itself.

Summed up, it would cost $489,632,115 in debt over the next 25 years or so to acquire downtown property, install new water and sewer lines, build parking garages, and subsidize construction of restaurants and retail stores for the Cordish Co.

But consultants who had looked at the deal also said the entertainment district would create $506,437,961 in new revenues such as sales, earnings and property taxes.

So how did those rosy predictions work out?

Not well. In fact, they weren’t even remotely close. Yet many people still don’t realize how costly this project will be for Kansas City taxpayers for years to come.

In round figures, recent debt payments have been close to $19 million a year. However, the district’s total tax revenues are averaging only $5.5 million annually.

There’s a larger point to be made here about how risky it is to promote city-backed projects that put the full faith and credit of local taxpayers on the line. Fortunately, City Hall has backed away from doing large deals like this one for the last few years. Still, at least six projects are draining the general fund of money each year because they haven’t been as successful as once hoped.

The largest by far is the Power & Light District, and it deserves more attention given that fact. First, some math.

• Bonds issued for the project won’t be paid off until 2032 — 19 years from now.

• The taxpayer subsidy to make debt payments this year is projected to be its highest so far: $14.3 million.

• Multiply 19 years times $14.3 million and that’s — whoa — $272 million that could be transferred from the general fund to pay for the Power & Light bonds. That’s $272 million unavailable for roads, parks, police, fire and other essential services.

Supporters of the Power & Light District make a few key points.

The first is dead-on. Building the entertainment area in conjunction with the new Sprint Center — which is fully financed with hotel and car rental fees, not taxpayer dollars — has been the key to reviving downtown. That’s a huge plus in its favor.

The second contention is not fully accurate.

Cordish Co. and city officials point out that the bonds issued for the Power & Light District also built public infrastructure such as the garages and the modern water/sewer lines. That’s true.

But then comes the argument that, if you take that money for public stuff out of the equation, the Power & Light District retail complex comes close to covering its costs. That’s not true.

At least half the bond revenues support the subsidy given to Cordish for constructing the retail stores and restaurants, acquisition costs for the property they are built upon, the Midland theater makeover and the condos Cordish has pledged to build. Plus, the “public” garages are greatly used by Power & Light customers. Add that cost to the mix, and about two-thirds of the bonds go toward the entertainment district.

Notice: $5.5 million of available revenues a year created by the district is nowhere close to covering two-thirds or even half of the bond payments, which are almost $20 million annually.

Finally, city officials and Power & Light executives often have talked about the better days ahead, when the district eventually would ramp up revenues to better cover debt expenses.

That hasn’t worked out yet as hoped, either. The city budget shows the annual total of revenues from the district the last four years has been $5.6 million, $4.5 million, $5.5 million (estimated) and $5.4 million (projected this budget year).

The one overriding lesson from the entire Power & Light District project is this: The city in the future must do a better job estimating the true costs of projects to taxpayers, never again exposing them to this kind of financial miscalculation.


this one is interesting too-

http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2015/05/04/8995/kcs-successful-arena-district-shows-even-successful-arena-districts-can-be-huge-taxpayer-money-sucks/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 02:13:53 PM
I love the Pissclams anger over this thing - given the fact he's not paying for it.
did KCMO sign a free maintenance contract?

i'm not angry, i'm frustrated with this city government that continually does stupid crap against the wishes of the people who live here.  as i've mentioned numerous times in this thread- every time (at least 8 times), when the issue of streetcar/light rail was put up for vote in the general election, the voters said no by a resounding margin.   ignoring that vote, sly went the tdd route and put the vote up to about 500 registered voters (the majority of which are renters who don't have longterm stake in the game and who aren't responsible for underwriting his stupid idea) and disallowed the business owners who are funding the thing from voting.

Maintenance is built into the ongoing assessment by the streetcar authority.

Are you equally upset with the TDD on the plaza that nobody voted on? As you know businesses never vote on property taxes. Sprint campus doesn't get to vote on OPKS property taxes they pay....

LOL sprint wrote that contract w/ op

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 02:14:12 PM
i might be off base here but everything ive read about PnL and the SC say theyre way off from revenue projections and are taking much longer to pay off debt than anticipated.

i enjoy having both there like 3 times a year, just like i probably will the street car. doesnt mean i dont think theyre a huge waste of money.

Were the original projections based on having an NHL or NBA tenant within 8 years of opening? If so, I'm sure they are both very behind.

The city makes more directly from the arena without a tenant.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 18, 2016, 02:16:58 PM
How much of KCMO's general fund is supported by the 1% income tax?

Approximately 40%...50% of that is paid by non kcmo residents.

And this is why KCMO can get eff'd (IMO).

Okay. Not a very regional way to think of it but it's your O so go with it.

I could say the same thing about KCMO govt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on February 18, 2016, 02:25:02 PM
i might be off base here but everything ive read about PnL and the SC say theyre way off from revenue projections and are taking much longer to pay off debt than anticipated.

i enjoy having both there like 3 times a year, just like i probably will the street car. doesnt mean i dont think theyre a huge waste of money.

Were the original projections based on having an NHL or NBA tenant within 8 years of opening? If so, I'm sure they are both very behind.

The city makes more directly from the arena without a tenant.

How so? Wouldn't it be better to have those 41 events on the calendar every year? That's 41 more reasons for 18,000 people to be in P&L too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 02:28:24 PM
i might be off base here but everything ive read about PnL and the SC say theyre way off from revenue projections and are taking much longer to pay off debt than anticipated.

i enjoy having both there like 3 times a year, just like i probably will the street car. doesnt mean i dont think theyre a huge waste of money.

Were the original projections based on having an NHL or NBA tenant within 8 years of opening? If so, I'm sure they are both very behind.

The city makes more directly from the arena without a tenant.

How so? Wouldn't it be better to have those 41 events on the calendar every year? That's 41 more reasons for 18,000 people to be in P&L too.

Arena stays just as full with other events that they don't have to share revenues as they would with a tenant... Same with p&l but I'd agree with you they would see more revenues from beer drinking sports fans than say a circus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 02:33:15 PM
Streetcar funding breakdown
37M in federal transportation funding... I mean this could be used for other transportation projects in kc or around the country
Remaining 70 million comes from property and sales tax within the TDD... And a fee on surface parking lots. Not general city finds that could be used for other things.

The federal funding they are applying for this project I believe can be used for rail only.  It can't be used for bus or other transportation.
I think that's a dumb stipulation, but if that's the case, then I can at least begin to understand how KC's decision makes sense.

except that the streetcar isn't "rail" which dub hasn't figured out yet

Quote
The theme of “Respect the Rail. Be Smart. Be Safe. Be Ready” encourages pedestrians, bicyclists, and motorists to be alert as we introduce the streetcar into the fabric of our downtown environment. In line with the KC Streetcar Brand...

 :surprised:  Must be identity crisis.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 02:37:23 PM
makes sense to discuss P&L and SC separately. 

I don't have time to cull the internet for the million articles explaining the financial success of the SC.  suffice it to say, this project has been a winner for KC. 

P&L, on the other hand, has not been the money maker it was projected to be, but I also don't even know where to begin measuring the economic impact P&L has had on the City.  For starters, SC is not near as successful with P&L.  BigXII basketball tourney wouldn't be here every year, but for P&L.  the residential boom wouldn't have occurred without P&L (movie theatre, grocery store, etc.).  there are just so many offshoot projects in and around the downtown CBD that are directly and indirectly attributable to P&L, that's it's near impossible to measure the economic impact of P&L.   



 
   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 02:43:36 PM
makes sense to discuss P&L and SC separately. 

I don't have time to cull the internet for the million articles explaining the financial success of the SC.  suffice it to say, this project has been a winner for KC. 

P&L, on the other hand, has not been the money maker it was projected to be, but I also don't even know where to begin measuring the economic impact P&L has had on the City.  For starters, SC is not near as successful with P&L.  BigXII basketball tourney wouldn't be here every year, but for P&L.  the residential boom wouldn't have occurred without P&L (movie theatre, grocery store, etc.).  there are just so many offshoot projects in and around the downtown CBD that are directly and indirectly attributable to P&L, that's it's near impossible to measure the economic impact of P&L.   



 
   

sprint center in 2013 was the 8th busiest arena in the us and netted $1.4M for the city before you subtract the $14m loss at p&l
we spent $225m on building it.  so, only $223.6m left to recoup.  2013 was the first year sc turned a profit iirc. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on February 18, 2016, 02:44:53 PM
i might be off base here but everything ive read about PnL and the SC say theyre way off from revenue projections and are taking much longer to pay off debt than anticipated.

i enjoy having both there like 3 times a year, just like i probably will the street car. doesnt mean i dont think theyre a huge waste of money.

Were the original projections based on having an NHL or NBA tenant within 8 years of opening? If so, I'm sure they are both very behind.

The city makes more directly from the arena without a tenant.

How so? Wouldn't it be better to have those 41 events on the calendar every year? That's 41 more reasons for 18,000 people to be in P&L too.

Arena stays just as full with other events that they don't have to share revenues as they would with a tenant... Same with p&l but I'd agree with you they would see more revenues from beer drinking sports fans than say a circus.

Agreed. Marvel Live and Sesame Street are bringing in a much different customer than a basketball or hockey team would. That would have a bigger impact on P&L than SC.

That said, adding a tenant would not eliminate the ability for SC to still host those types of events. The Thunder had 6 home games in February and their arena still hosted 6 special events/concerts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 02:45:32 PM
Streetcar funding breakdown
37M in federal transportation funding... I mean this could be used for other transportation projects in kc or around the country
Remaining 70 million comes from property and sales tax within the TDD... And a fee on surface parking lots. Not general city finds that could be used for other things.

The federal funding they are applying for this project I believe can be used for rail only.  It can't be used for bus or other transportation.
I think that's a dumb stipulation, but if that's the case, then I can at least begin to understand how KC's decision makes sense.

except that the streetcar isn't "rail" which dub hasn't figured out yet

Quote
The theme of “Respect the Rail. Be Smart. Be Safe. Be Ready” encourages pedestrians, bicyclists, and motorists to be alert as we introduce the streetcar into the fabric of our downtown environment. In line with the KC Streetcar Brand...

 :surprised:  Must be identity crisis.

must be, because a streetcar isn't light rail, not that i would expect anyone involved with the project to realize that.  the more confused they can get people like yourself, the better off their agenda is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2016, 02:47:38 PM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 02:49:08 PM
Streetcar funding breakdown
37M in federal transportation funding... I mean this could be used for other transportation projects in kc or around the country
Remaining 70 million comes from property and sales tax within the TDD... And a fee on surface parking lots. Not general city finds that could be used for other things.

The federal funding they are applying for this project I believe can be used for rail only.  It can't be used for bus or other transportation.
I think that's a dumb stipulation, but if that's the case, then I can at least begin to understand how KC's decision makes sense.

except that the streetcar isn't "rail" which dub hasn't figured out yet

Quote
The theme of “Respect the Rail. Be Smart. Be Safe. Be Ready” encourages pedestrians, bicyclists, and motorists to be alert as we introduce the streetcar into the fabric of our downtown environment. In line with the KC Streetcar Brand...

 :surprised:  Must be identity crisis.

must be, because a streetcar isn't light rail, not that i would expect anyone involved with the project to realize that.  the more confused they can get people like yourself, the better off their agenda is.

I never said it was light rail.  The city applied for the 20 mil TIGER grant under the rail/transit budget.  Not road/highway or any other of the TIGER grant subsections (which have been approved for KC in the past) which is why they can't just "Use it for something else!" posters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 02:52:56 PM
The arena has less flexibility to host events passing through though as the sports team schedule is locked in.

As of 2014 sprint center has paid the city $10M  since 2008...some years as high as 1.8M...this doesn't includes sales tax etc off of events.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 02:54:36 PM
Clams... Define light rail and how it differs from streetcar. I'll listen off the air. Thanks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 18, 2016, 02:55:01 PM
no real opinion about your guys' streetcar thing, but hearty lols about the fact that a) wacky has not moved to the suburbs yet and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TownieCat on February 18, 2016, 02:56:44 PM
makes sense to discuss P&L and SC separately. 

I don't have time to cull the internet for the million articles explaining the financial success of the SC.  suffice it to say, this project has been a winner for KC. 

P&L, on the other hand, has not been the money maker it was projected to be, but I also don't even know where to begin measuring the economic impact P&L has had on the City.  For starters, SC is not near as successful with P&L.  BigXII basketball tourney wouldn't be here every year, but for P&L.  the residential boom wouldn't have occurred without P&L (movie theatre, grocery store, etc.).  there are just so many offshoot projects in and around the downtown CBD that are directly and indirectly attributable to P&L, that's it's near impossible to measure the economic impact of P&L.   



 
   

sprint center in 2013 was the 8th busiest arena in the us and netted $1.4M for the city before you subtract the $14m loss at p&l
we spent $225m on building it.  so, only $223.6m left to recoup.  2013 was the first year sc turned a profit iirc.

*8th busiest arena in the US for concerts/special events. That ranking system did not account for NBA & NHL games.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on February 18, 2016, 02:59:01 PM
Lib7 being so pro-streetcar has been a pleasant surprise ITT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 03:03:00 PM
no real opinion about your guys' streetcar thing, but hearty lols about the fact that a) wacky has not moved to the suburbs yet and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
We're fighting it. We don't want to until we start having kids and that will be for at least another two years. We are however, looking for a new spot downtown. We wanna get away from the Quaff trash on Monday and Tuesday nights.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 03:04:50 PM
Two great schools will be walking distance from you when Lil wacky comes around... No reason to leave!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 03:06:21 PM
Two great schools will be walking distance from you when Lil wacky comes around... No reason to leave!

Along with more development!   :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 03:09:27 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 03:18:33 PM

sprint center in 2013 was the 8th busiest arena in the us and netted $1.4M for the city before you subtract the $14m loss at p&l
we spent $225m on building it.  so, only $223.6m left to recoup.  2013 was the first year sc turned a profit iirc.

That's 1.4 in profit.  The SC debt is not being paid out of the profit-sharing agreement with AEG.  that money goes straight into the City's bank account. 

The SC is financed through airport/hotel fees and these financial projections are being met.  The City is not subsidizing any SC shortfalls. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2016, 03:26:46 PM
Lib7 being so pro-streetcar has been a pleasant surprise ITT.

I lived in kc when idiots fought hard against the sprint center and p&l, so it hits close to home.

There was a lot of midwesternery "well we already have this shitty thing, why would we want something new and better" attitude in the opposition.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2016, 03:28:13 PM
Also I selfishly want it to go to waldo  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 18, 2016, 03:29:33 PM
i don't know crap about the financials, but i have a hard time believeing a waldo->city market street car wouldn't get used a lot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 03:34:09 PM
i don't know crap about the financials, but i have a hard time believeing a waldo->city market street car wouldn't get used a lot.

it would get used a lot. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 03:38:09 PM
i don't know crap about the financials, but i have a hard time believeing a waldo->city market street car wouldn't get used a lot.

it would get used a lot.

And that would have a fare attached to counter tax.  So it'd be similar to other lines around the country where the cost is basically covered by fares and a 1.0% specific sales tax.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 03:42:09 PM

sprint center in 2013 was the 8th busiest arena in the us and netted $1.4M for the city before you subtract the $14m loss at p&l
we spent $225m on building it.  so, only $223.6m left to recoup.  2013 was the first year sc turned a profit iirc.

That's 1.4 in profit.  The SC debt is not being paid out of the profit-sharing agreement with AEG.  that money goes straight into the City's bank account. 

The SC is financed through airport/hotel fees and these financial projections are being met.  The City is not subsidizing any SC shortfalls. 

maybe before lecturing me on the financing on these projects, you should look up what the word "netted" means.
and then, when you're done, you can continue ignoring the fact that the arena will never pay for itself since the large majority of the proceeds go straight into AEG's pocket.

i mean, give me $225M, i'll give the city much more than $1.4M a year back, which they can go spend on more streetcars and stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 03:43:26 PM
i don't know crap about the financials, but i have a hard time believeing a waldo->city market street car wouldn't get used a lot.

it would get used a lot. 

by whom?  the same folks who ignore existing bus lines in favor of the convenience of having their own car with them?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
Obviously drunkards would be the one using it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 03:48:52 PM
and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
Well, I DO ride busses a ton. I solely rely on public transport -- I think that gives me a slightly unique perspective in this thread. 

I just think busses (which already exist) make more sense than spending an assload of money on something that's going to do the same damn thing. 

  :dunno:. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 18, 2016, 03:51:29 PM
Dlew doesn't even ride the bus he's just trolling.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 03:58:07 PM
and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
Well, I DO ride busses a ton. I solely rely on public transport -- I think that gives me a slightly unique perspective in this thread. 

I just think busses (which already exist) make more sense than spending an assload of money on something that's going to do the same damn thing. 

  :dunno:.

Initial investment is more.  Maintenance is more on buses. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 03:59:08 PM
i don't know crap about the financials, but i have a hard time believeing a waldo->city market street car wouldn't get used a lot.

it would get used a lot. 

by whom?  the same folks who ignore existing bus lines in favor of the convenience of having their own car with them?

I take the MAX to waldo at least monthly for boozy brunch or family/friend interactions.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 04:04:45 PM
and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
Well, I DO ride busses a ton. I solely rely on public transport -- I think that gives me a slightly unique perspective in this thread. 

I just think busses (which already exist) make more sense than spending an assload of money on something that's going to do the same damn thing. 

  :dunno:.

Initial investment is more.  Maintenance is more on buses.
link?  This says otherwise: http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Vehicles/a/What-Are-The-True-Operating-Cost-Differences-Between-Bus-And-Light-Rail.htm (http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Vehicles/a/What-Are-The-True-Operating-Cost-Differences-Between-Bus-And-Light-Rail.htm)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 04:09:44 PM

I just think busses (which already exist) make more sense than spending an assload of money on something that's going to do the same damn thing.

that's my position too.  spend money on our existing system.  make it easier to purchase tickets before boarding, make dedicated bus lines and nicer stops.

somehow, the streetcar is the only way to solve the transportation issues plaguing our city 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 04:10:29 PM
i don't know crap about the financials, but i have a hard time believeing a waldo->city market street car wouldn't get used a lot.

it would get used a lot. 

by whom?  the same folks who ignore existing bus lines in favor of the convenience of having their own car with them?

I take the MAX to waldo at least monthly for boozy brunch or family/friend interactions.

works pretty good, eh? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 18, 2016, 04:19:27 PM
no real opinion about your guys' streetcar thing, but hearty lols about the fact that a) wacky has not moved to the suburbs yet and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
We're fighting it. We don't want to until we start having kids and that will be for at least another two years. We are however, looking for a new spot downtown. We wanna get away from the Quaff trash on Monday and Tuesday nights.

Move to the burbs already. You know that's where your heart belongs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 04:20:54 PM

maybe before lecturing me on the financing on these projects, you should look up what the word "netted" means.
and then, when you're done, you can continue ignoring the fact that the arena will never pay for itself since the large majority of the proceeds go straight into AEG's pocket.

i mean, give me $225M, i'll give the city much more than $1.4M a year back, which they can go spend on more streetcars and stuff.

my mistake, I must've misinterpreted this quote:  "1.4M for the city before you subtract the $14m loss at p&l we spent $225m on building it.  so, only $223.6m left to recoup."

seemed like you were saying that we are paying off the SC with the AEG profit-sharing money.  or, in other words, it would take us ~200 years to pay off the SC. 

 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 18, 2016, 04:23:44 PM
sometimes perception is reality.  streetcars are perceived as nicer, cleaner, more convenient than busses.  this street car will be free - v. paying for a bus. 

it is what it is.  Kind of like uber v. cab.  it's the same idea - you're getting from point A to point B.  but to a lot of people, there's a huge difference. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 04:27:09 PM
no real opinion about your guys' streetcar thing, but hearty lols about the fact that a) wacky has not moved to the suburbs yet and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
We're fighting it. We don't want to until we start having kids and that will be for at least another two years. We are however, looking for a new spot downtown. We wanna get away from the Quaff trash on Monday and Tuesday nights.

Move to the burbs already. You know that's where your heart belongs.
I'm not ready to be a functioning adult, with house duties, and other stuff.  :frown: Sounds boring! I just need ppl to get off my lawn!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 04:29:32 PM
You know what it's like having your place on ground level downtown? Like, if Ms. wacky and I go Pak our faces off and we're to lazy to take it to the bedroom, we're putting on a show for everyone that walks by because our blinds suck!  :curse: Like, sometimes I wanna watch TV in the living room, with my hands down my pants, with no judgement, like a goddamn America, but that's not possible right now.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 04:49:56 PM
i don't know crap about the financials, but i have a hard time believeing a waldo->city market street car wouldn't get used a lot.

it would get used a lot. 

by whom?  the same folks who ignore existing bus lines in favor of the convenience of having their own car with them?

I take the MAX to waldo at least monthly for boozy brunch or family/friend interactions.

works pretty good, eh?

Yup... Doesn't discount what a rail system can add to the transit system... Waldo will never see rail
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2016, 04:52:53 PM
First floor?  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 04:54:13 PM
First floor?  :sdeek:
Yes. And like 25 ft away from the Quaff. We hear/see a lot of crap at night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
You know what it's like having your place on ground level downtown? Like, if Ms. wacky and I go Pak our faces off and we're to lazy to take it to the bedroom, we're putting on a show for everyone that walks by because our blinds suck!  :curse: Like, sometimes I wanna watch TV in the living room, with my hands down my pants, with no judgement, like a goddamn America, but that's not possible right now.  :frown:

I honestly can't believe they rent hothouse places out on the ground floor... Hope you get a great price on rent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 05:00:38 PM
and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
Well, I DO ride busses a ton. I solely rely on public transport -- I think that gives me a slightly unique perspective in this thread. 

I just think busses (which already exist) make more sense than spending an assload of money on something that's going to do the same damn thing. 

  :dunno:.

Initial investment is more.  Maintenance is more on buses.
link?  This says otherwise: http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Vehicles/a/What-Are-The-True-Operating-Cost-Differences-Between-Bus-And-Light-Rail.htm (http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Vehicles/a/What-Are-The-True-Operating-Cost-Differences-Between-Bus-And-Light-Rail.htm)

While I hold About.com in the highest regard, I looked at the website of the source they used .. http://www.ntdprogram.gov/ntdprogram/pubs/NTST/2013%20NTST%20Storylines.pdf

Quote
Transit rail has among the highest number
of trips per hour among all modal categories. Therefore, even though cost per hour is higher
than fixed route services, the ultimate operating cost per trip is comparable.

I feel like I should change industries after this much research.. also.. cities with ferries should be furious about tax money.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2016, 05:05:42 PM
You know what it's like having your place on ground level downtown? Like, if Ms. wacky and I go Pak our faces off and we're to lazy to take it to the bedroom, we're putting on a show for everyone that walks by because our blinds suck!  :curse: Like, sometimes I wanna watch TV in the living room, with my hands down my pants, with no judgement, like a goddamn America, but that's not possible right now.  :frown:

I honestly can't believe they rent hothouse places out on the ground floor... Hope you get a great price on rent.
Me too, bud! Me too!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2016, 05:10:09 PM
and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
Well, I DO ride busses a ton. I solely rely on public transport -- I think that gives me a slightly unique perspective in this thread. 

I just think busses (which already exist) make more sense than spending an assload of money on something that's going to do the same damn thing. 

  :dunno:.

Initial investment is more.  Maintenance is more on buses.
link?  This says otherwise: http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Vehicles/a/What-Are-The-True-Operating-Cost-Differences-Between-Bus-And-Light-Rail.htm (http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Vehicles/a/What-Are-The-True-Operating-Cost-Differences-Between-Bus-And-Light-Rail.htm)

While I hold About.com in the highest regard, I looked at the website of the source they used .. http://www.ntdprogram.gov/ntdprogram/pubs/NTST/2013%20NTST%20Storylines.pdf

Quote
Transit rail has among the highest number
of trips per hour among all modal categories. Therefore, even though cost per hour is higher
than fixed route services, the ultimate operating cost per trip is comparable.

I feel like I should change industries after this much research.. also.. cities with ferries should be furious about tax money.
I feel like what you quoted doesn't exactly support your position that "maintenance" (which I assumed you meant the cost of operation) is higher for busses,
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 05:18:03 PM
and b) dlew's weird "acknowledge the fact that i ride the bus" complex
Well, I DO ride busses a ton. I solely rely on public transport -- I think that gives me a slightly unique perspective in this thread. 

I just think busses (which already exist) make more sense than spending an assload of money on something that's going to do the same damn thing. 

  :dunno:.

Initial investment is more.  Maintenance is more on buses.
link?  This says otherwise: http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Vehicles/a/What-Are-The-True-Operating-Cost-Differences-Between-Bus-And-Light-Rail.htm (http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Vehicles/a/What-Are-The-True-Operating-Cost-Differences-Between-Bus-And-Light-Rail.htm)

While I hold About.com in the highest regard, I looked at the website of the source they used .. http://www.ntdprogram.gov/ntdprogram/pubs/NTST/2013%20NTST%20Storylines.pdf

Quote
Transit rail has among the highest number
of trips per hour among all modal categories. Therefore, even though cost per hour is higher
than fixed route services, the ultimate operating cost per trip is comparable.

I feel like I should change industries after this much research.. also.. cities with ferries should be furious about tax money.
I feel like what you quoted doesn't exactly support your position that "maintenance" (which I assumed you meant the cost of operation) is higher for busses,

They have graphs on there to look at.  And it's your article that sourced it and paraphrased wrong.

Cost per Unlinked Passenger Trip:  Bus: $3.71  Streetcar: $2.53   And for good measure:  Lightrail: $3.46
 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 05:32:52 PM
St. Louis Metro – Total Costs & Passenger Mileage, 1996-2005

Capital Costs:
          Capital Costs:    Rolling Stock     O&M Cost   Total Cost       Passenger-Mileage
Bus     $64.0          $131.3            $1,045.5        $1,240.8            1,389.5
LRT     $844.4            $124.2          $262.2         $1,231.2           1,047.7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 06:29:47 PM
St. Louis Metro – Total Costs & Passenger Mileage, 1996-2005

Capital Costs:
          Capital Costs:    Rolling Stock     O&M Cost   Total Cost       Passenger-Mileage
Bus     $64.0          $131.3            $1,045.5        $1,240.8            1,389.5
LRT     $844.4            $124.2          $262.2         $1,231.2           1,047.7

Is that comparing the entire bus system to their light rail? That is a pretty poor comparison. The St. Louis Metro buses serve pretty distant and relatively sparsely populated areas compared to Light Rail which would really skew the passenger-mileage dollars.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 18, 2016, 07:05:34 PM
St. Louis Metro – Total Costs & Passenger Mileage, 1996-2005

Capital Costs:
          Capital Costs:    Rolling Stock     O&M Cost   Total Cost       Passenger-Mileage
Bus     $64.0          $131.3            $1,045.5        $1,240.8            1,389.5
LRT     $844.4            $124.2          $262.2         $1,231.2           1,047.7

Is that comparing the entire bus system to their light rail? That is a pretty poor comparison. The St. Louis Metro buses serve pretty distant and relatively sparsely populated areas compared to Light Rail which would really skew the passenger-mileage dollars.

It's total cost per passenger mile. 

For bus, average annual O&M costs were $104.6 million, and average passenger-mileage was 139.0 million.
For LRT, average annual O&M costs were $26.2 million, and average passenger-mileage was 104.8 million
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 18, 2016, 07:07:57 PM
Yeah, that is not a useful comparison
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2016, 07:35:47 PM
sometimes perception is reality.  streetcars are perceived as nicer, cleaner, more convenient than busses.  this street car will be free - v. paying for a bus. 

it is what it is.  Kind of like uber v. cab.  it's the same idea - you're getting from point A to point B.  but to a lot of people, there's a huge difference. 
that's true what you're saying but if visitors want to get around, they have options and cleaning up our bus system into something that people would want to ride and not be scared to ride and thats easy to ride seems like a much more prudent option to me.  but we weren't given that option

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2016, 08:26:17 PM
sometimes perception is reality.  streetcars are perceived as nicer, cleaner, more convenient than busses.  this street car will be free - v. paying for a bus. 

it is what it is.  Kind of like uber v. cab.  it's the same idea - you're getting from point A to point B.  but to a lot of people, there's a huge difference. 
that's true what you're saying but if visitors want to get around, they have options and cleaning up our bus system into something that people would want to ride and not be scared to ride and thats easy to ride seems like a much more prudent option to me.  but we weren't given that option

Forming a TDD to get your option takes passion.  Let's do it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 18, 2016, 09:03:26 PM
Wow! This thread grew a lot today! Just like the KC transport system!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 19, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
sometimes perception is reality.  streetcars are perceived as nicer, cleaner, more convenient than busses.  this street car will be free - v. paying for a bus. 

it is what it is.  Kind of like uber v. cab.  it's the same idea - you're getting from point A to point B.  but to a lot of people, there's a huge difference. 
that's true what you're saying but if visitors want to get around, they have options and cleaning up our bus system into something that people would want to ride and not be scared to ride and thats easy to ride seems like a much more prudent option to me.  but we weren't given that option

You weren't given an option, because you don't live in the downtown TDD.  This is not a hard concept.  The City didn't force this streetcar on anybody.  When you were given the choice, you voted it down and, hence, are not paying for it.   

Regarding the funding for busses, the Missouri Legislature in 2015 renewed a half-cent sales tax providing ~$35 million in annual funding to the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority, for use in improving and maintaining the bus system. 

These systems aren't mutually exclusive.  They complement one another. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 19, 2016, 08:58:26 AM
just heard Prospect is getting federal $ for a MAX bus line of its own  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 19, 2016, 08:59:02 AM
i also did not know the Main st MAX has only been around since 2005, and Troost MAX since 2011
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 09:22:57 AM
I'd invite all you kc peeps to my annual MAX pub crawl but mixing IRL friends with IRL gE friends... Is that weird?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 19, 2016, 09:34:00 AM
annual MAX pub crawl

been to blind tiger yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2016, 09:38:38 AM
Yup
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 19, 2016, 09:52:38 AM
I'd invite all you kc peeps to my annual MAX pub crawl but mixing IRL friends with IRL gE friends... Is that weird?
Don't do it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 10:28:35 AM
annual MAX pub crawl

been to blind tiger yet?

Harling's has been our traditional 39th street stop...

I just remembered this year we are doing streetcar instead. I tried to do troost max last year but there was quite a gap in midtown that didn't have day bars.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Yup

 :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 19, 2016, 10:33:58 AM
annual MAX pub crawl

been to blind tiger yet?

Harling's has been our traditional 39th street stop...

I just remembered this year we are doing streetcar instead. I tried to do troost max last year but there was quite a gap in midtown that didn't have day bars.

Harling's is not open as much anymore due to blind tiger
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Yup

 :bawl:
I was talking about blind tiger.  :D I mix IRL friends with gE friends all the time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 19, 2016, 10:37:17 AM
There is a blind tiger in topeka, just something to think about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
It's different tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 19, 2016, 10:38:58 AM
yeah it was very confusing for me until i went and discovered it is completely unrelated
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2016, 10:44:04 AM
I had one of the weirdest convos in my life with a stranger there. Like, he told me for years his job was to live with this old lady and take care of her and that she had died recently and he was about to get kicked out of the place and have nowhere to live, because he's an alcoholic and will never change, wouldn't be able to find a job, etc. My friends and I told him to get motivated and go find a job, stop drinking, etc. Now I see the guy roaming the streets all over downtown in the same clothes he wore that day.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 10:53:12 AM
annual MAX pub crawl

been to blind tiger yet?

Harling's has been our traditional 39th street stop...

I just remembered this year we are doing streetcar instead. I tried to do troost max last year but there was quite a gap in midtown that didn't have day bars.

Harling's is not open as much anymore due to blind tiger

Yeah Harling's is always a crapshoot... Are are usually calling at the bar prior just confirming they are open. Blind tiger would Def been the stop this year as every year we try and do new bars.

Doubleshift will be on the list this year  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
i'm not sure if you will be hungry around the time you hit the Linwood stop, but i cannot stress enough how F'ing good that venezuelan philly is at El Porton. my friends and i have been texting each other photos of it every time we get one like a bunch of dorks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
That sound delish... But mocat, we are doing streetcar only crawl this year....unless we switch it up to MAX once we get to union station... Still up in the air.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 19, 2016, 11:14:09 AM
ah ok
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 11:18:31 AM
Appreciate the pro tips... I'm putting that place on my hit list.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2016, 11:32:36 AM
Did you guys read my story? Wow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 19, 2016, 12:17:31 PM
annual MAX pub crawl

been to blind tiger yet?

Harling's has been our traditional 39th street stop...

I just remembered this year we are doing streetcar instead. I tried to do troost max last year but there was quite a gap in midtown that didn't have day bars.

Harling's is not open as much anymore due to blind tiger

Yeah Harling's is always a crapshoot... Are are usually calling at the bar prior just confirming they are open. Blind tiger would Def been the stop this year as every year we try and do new bars.

Doubleshift will be on the list this year  :Woohoo:
My man
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 19, 2016, 12:17:51 PM
Did you guys read my story? Wow!
V sad story wacks. V sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2016, 12:18:26 PM
I know


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2016, 01:04:36 PM
sometimes perception is reality.  streetcars are perceived as nicer, cleaner, more convenient than busses.  this street car will be free - v. paying for a bus. 

it is what it is.  Kind of like uber v. cab.  it's the same idea - you're getting from point A to point B.  but to a lot of people, there's a huge difference. 
that's true what you're saying but if visitors want to get around, they have options and cleaning up our bus system into something that people would want to ride and not be scared to ride and thats easy to ride seems like a much more prudent option to me.  but we weren't given that option

You weren't given an option, because you don't live in the downtown TDD.  This is not a hard concept.  The City didn't force this streetcar on anybody.  When you were given the choice, you voted it down and, hence, are not paying for it.   

Regarding the funding for busses, the Missouri Legislature in 2015 renewed a half-cent sales tax providing ~$35 million in annual funding to the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority, for use in improving and maintaining the bus system. 

These systems aren't mutually exclusive.  They complement one another. 


don't take this the wrong way, and i'm sure that you already know it, but you're a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 19, 2016, 01:08:47 PM

don't take this the wrong way, and i'm sure that you already know it, but you're a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

lol - coincidentally I've been thinking the exact same thing about you the past two days in this thread.  a real municipal finance dumb dumb. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 01:27:35 PM
This is going well....Glad  we could find the common ground.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 19, 2016, 03:16:25 PM
Have we found out why some don't consider streetcars rail? 

I'll come back to find out later, going take the lightrail downtown to meet some friends.  Might bus it home... or use our streetcar to hit another LR line that goes towards my house.   :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 19, 2016, 03:19:33 PM
rail means a dedicated rail. but i think the way you were using it (with regards to government funds iirc) you were meaning "non-bus public transit"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2016, 04:25:31 PM
it's really weird that they're waiting until after the b12 to turn the thing on
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 04:39:36 PM
All the cars aren't here yet and they each need to all be tested before the FTA will sign off on passenger service.

Baseless obstructionist lawsuits also hinder service starting.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 19, 2016, 04:41:33 PM
Iowa hayseeds would have no clue how to handle a streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 19, 2016, 04:42:45 PM
Iowa hayseeds would have no clue how to handle a streetcar

now theres something we can all agree on
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 19, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
rail means a dedicated rail. but i think the way you were using it (with regards to government funds iirc) you were meaning "non-bus public transit"

It is dedicated rail... Its not sharing with rails with any other service. If you are saying dedicated right of way? Then Minneapolis and Houston should call themselves streetcars.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2016, 05:00:42 PM
rail means a dedicated rail. but i think the way you were using it (with regards to government funds iirc) you were meaning "non-bus public transit"

It is dedicated rail... Its not sharing with rails with any other service. If you are saying dedicated right of way? Then Minneapolis and Houston should call themselves streetcars.

light rail has it's own dedicated right of way, figured you'd know that, mr.streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2016, 07:27:21 AM
MPLS and Houston "light rail" has portions where it shares the street with cars. The distinction isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2016, 08:03:59 AM
MPLS and Houston "light rail" has portions where it shares the street with cars. The distinction isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it.
it is to me and the rest of the world except for you and dub, sorry you don't understand streetcars/light rail as much as you would love to
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2016, 08:10:17 AM
MPLS and Houston "light rail" has portions where it shares the street with cars. The distinction isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it.
it is to mean and the rest of the world except for you and dub, sorry you don't understand streetcars/light rail as much as you would love to

So you agree Houston and Minneapolis are streetcars. You do also understand they both run on rails right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 20, 2016, 10:11:09 AM
It's weird how the National Transit Database lists street car under "Urban Rail" and people still deny it.  Some people's hate of public transport options cloud their minds I guess. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2016, 10:24:12 AM
MPLS and Houston "light rail" has portions where it shares the street with cars. The distinction isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it.
it is to mean and the rest of the world except for you and dub, sorry you don't understand streetcars/light rail as much as you would love to

So you agree Houston and Minneapolis are streetcars. You do also understand they both run on rails right?
tell me more about the houston and minneapolis public transportation systems, oh wise one.  i'll be on my couch sleeping :lol:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2016, 10:33:39 AM
I'm starting to think my biggest problem with the streetcar is the smarmy attitudes and seemingly blind faith in the project from the supporters in this thread. Geez.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 20, 2016, 10:36:09 AM
Blind faith is never the best option
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2016, 10:51:13 AM
I'm starting to think my biggest problem with the streetcar is the smarmy attitudes and seemingly blind faith in the project from the supporters in this thread. Geez.

it's almost incredible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2016, 11:40:36 AM
Test running it today. Right in front of me.(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160220/0d2e1429460b4c8decf94579f8d253d6.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2016, 11:59:47 AM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2016, 12:23:31 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2016, 12:38:20 PM
very kansas city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2016, 12:43:48 PM
That's a pitcher of Strawberry Lemonade Sangria, folks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 20, 2016, 12:45:48 PM
:surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2016, 12:48:58 PM
I'm fancy AF! Check out that huge ring too! :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2016, 01:14:12 PM
That's a pitcher of Strawberry Lemonade Sangria, folks!

that crap looks good, would drink a lot of
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2016, 01:16:34 PM
It was delicious. I got the recipe too. Strawberry skyy vodka, pinot grigio, pure cane syrup, sprite, strawberries and lemons.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2016, 01:30:06 PM
will make
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2016, 03:51:46 PM
I'm starting to think my biggest problem with the streetcar is the smarmy attitudes and seemingly blind faith in the project from the supporters in this thread. Geez.

definitely no smarmy attitudes coming from the anti-streetcar folks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 20, 2016, 05:05:26 PM
Fam moving from out of town just put a bid in on a place in Columbus Park.....one of the deciding factors?  Streetcar.  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2016, 11:46:01 PM
more good news for the crossroads, i gotta wonder how many places slanging beer are needed in the area but whatever, they're not asking for TIF
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article61785472.html

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 07:39:41 AM
I've heard very good things about the taco place
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2016, 07:58:04 AM
are they already starting on 2 light? hot damn we must have incenTIFized the living eff out of that project
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 09:20:06 AM
They did... Mostly for the public parking garage underneath 2 light. It was part of the original p&l deal with cordish.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 11:59:10 AM
are they already starting on 2 light? hot damn we must have incenTIFized the living eff out of that project

we did
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2016, 12:00:27 PM
i am just looking at that 20-car parking lot being torn up in order to build 2 light and all i can think of is all the $ that is being taken directly out of my pocket smdh my damn head
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 12:03:17 PM
i am just looking at that 20-car parking lot being torn up in order to build 2 light and all i can think of is all the $ that is being taken directly out of my pocket smdh my damn head
k, i agree that $17m is much less than our other public financing on projects but it's still public financing, not sure what your convoluted point is here. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 23, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
You know what's a crap show right now in KC? The development over at Mission Farms. I believe I've been here for 6 months and they've still been trying to build a parking garage and additional condos around here. I guess it start last springs and it's not even close to finished. If you leave for lunch, you might as well tack on an additional 45 minutes of roaming around the parking lot, trying to find a random spot.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 12:05:08 PM
parking over there is stupid, wouldn't go there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 23, 2016, 12:08:27 PM
You know what's a crap show right now in KC? The development over at Mission Farms. I believe I've been here for 6 months and they've still been trying to build a parking garage and additional condos around here. I guess it start last springs and it's not even close to finished. If you leave for lunch, you might as well tack on an additional 45 minutes of roaming around the parking lot, trying to find a random spot.  :curse:
Dude I was in that building last week. It's the biggest cluster eff I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 23, 2016, 12:14:32 PM

You know what's a crap show right now in KC? The development over at Mission Farms. I believe I've been here for 6 months and they've still been trying to build a parking garage and additional condos around here. I guess it start last springs and it's not even close to finished. If you leave for lunch, you might as well tack on an additional 45 minutes of roaming around the parking lot, trying to find a random spot.  :curse:

Why not just take the streetcar?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2016, 12:18:50 PM
you can't really blame them, i mean where would they squeeze in enough room to park?

(http://oi64.tinypic.com/33k3pyt.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 23, 2016, 12:21:50 PM
You know what's a crap show right now in KC? The development over at Mission Farms. I believe I've been here for 6 months and they've still been trying to build a parking garage and additional condos around here. I guess it start last springs and it's not even close to finished. If you leave for lunch, you might as well tack on an additional 45 minutes of roaming around the parking lot, trying to find a random spot.  :curse:
Dude I was in that building last week. It's the biggest cluster eff I've ever seen.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 23, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
you can't really blame them, i mean where would they squeeze in enough room to park?

(http://oi64.tinypic.com/33k3pyt.jpg)
Yeah, that's across the street from my work. That's where they're starting to make the construction guys park (on the grass), because there's been no room for us to park for awhile.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 23, 2016, 12:23:35 PM

You know what's a crap show right now in KC? The development over at Mission Farms. I believe I've been here for 6 months and they've still been trying to build a parking garage and additional condos around here. I guess it start last springs and it's not even close to finished. If you leave for lunch, you might as well tack on an additional 45 minutes of roaming around the parking lot, trying to find a random spot.  :curse:

Why not just take the streetcar?
:curse: You know why!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 23, 2016, 12:23:46 PM
You know what's a crap show right now in KC? The development over at Mission Farms. I believe I've been here for 6 months and they've still been trying to build a parking garage and additional condos around here. I guess it start last springs and it's not even close to finished. If you leave for lunch, you might as well tack on an additional 45 minutes of roaming around the parking lot, trying to find a random spot.  :curse:
Dude I was in that building last week. It's the biggest cluster eff I've ever seen.
Thank you!
They were really close to being done with it in October. Then essentially had to start over bc half of it was done wrong. All the brick/siding had to come off. Windows re installed. Roof torn off. It's insane how bad the contractor mumped it up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 23, 2016, 12:26:05 PM
That's what I've heard. Our CEO told us they're about to put in a Children's Mercy office by here soon too, so I can only imagine how much worse it will get. I've just started to pack lunches.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 23, 2016, 12:27:19 PM
none of this would ever happen to you in lenexa, wacks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 23, 2016, 12:37:15 PM
I have the option of about 50 open parking spots every day :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 12:37:41 PM
57 bus to Stateline... 2 mile bike ride to work... Eff parking.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on February 23, 2016, 12:37:59 PM
You know what's a crap show right now in KC? The development over at Mission Farms. I believe I've been here for 6 months and they've still been trying to build a parking garage and additional condos around here. I guess it start last springs and it's not even close to finished. If you leave for lunch, you might as well tack on an additional 45 minutes of roaming around the parking lot, trying to find a random spot.  :curse:
Dude I was in that building last week. It's the biggest cluster eff I've ever seen.
Thank you!
They were really close to being done with it in October. Then essentially had to start over bc half of it was done wrong. All the brick/siding had to come off. Windows re installed. Roof torn off. It's insane how bad the contractors mumped it up.

They've been thru multiple GCs since the beginning. No thanks. &  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 23, 2016, 12:38:41 PM
Rumblings of a 12 story office building going in that area as well...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 23, 2016, 12:39:46 PM
Except I think it's 435 East instead of West
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2016, 12:41:53 PM
57 bus to Stateline... 2 mile bike ride to work... Eff parking.

that would take over an hour and a half each way  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 23, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
none of this would ever happen to you in lenexa, wacks

(http://www.lenexa.org/eblast/eblastimages/ILikeLenexaBanner.jpg)

Seriously tho I do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 23, 2016, 12:49:48 PM

none of this would ever happen to you in lenexa, wacks

(http://www.lenexa.org/eblast/eblastimages/ILikeLenexaBanner.jpg)

Seriously tho I do.

Because you get to see another poster on this blogs mom a lot?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2016, 12:50:54 PM
Except I think it's 435 East instead of West

hard to pick one, but that might be my favorite  :D OAT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 23, 2016, 01:02:11 PM
none of this would ever happen to you in lenexa, wacks

(http://www.lenexa.org/eblast/eblastimages/ILikeLenexaBanner.jpg)

Seriously tho I do.
I LIKE LENEXA also.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 23, 2016, 01:07:52 PM
Let's hear some lenexa pro tips
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 23, 2016, 01:13:42 PM
Let's hear some lenexa pro tips
well for starters, enjoy the best bbq in the country at zarda bbq, conveniently located at 87th and I-35.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 23, 2016, 01:25:02 PM
Let's hear some lenexa pro tips
well for starters, enjoy the best bbq in the country at zarda bbq, conveniently located at 87th and I-35.

Don't want to haul the family to Crossroads because parking sucks?  Well just head down Pflum to Grinder's Stonewall.  Turn the kids loose outside and get drunk on a wide variety of craft beers. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2016, 01:26:03 PM
i think a lenexa things thread would be pretty worthwhile actually
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 23, 2016, 01:27:00 PM
i think a lenexa things thread would be pretty worthwhile actually

Being a transplant, I would defer the honor to a Lenexa proud native.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 23, 2016, 01:27:51 PM
:love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MeatSauce on February 23, 2016, 01:34:46 PM
when i worked in Lenexa (Thermo Fisher), I wouuld Holy Land Cafe-it for lunch.  :lick:
$1 beers during Royals games at Arris Pizza  :eek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWican on February 23, 2016, 01:37:10 PM
JC, Lenexa is Kansas City. Just rename this thread "Kansas City Metro things"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 01:46:07 PM
57 bus to Stateline... 2 mile bike ride to work... Eff parking.

that would take over an hour and a half each way  :lol:

Not my prob... Wacky has the time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 03:51:55 PM
Hyatt petitioners gave up their silly complaint!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2016, 03:53:32 PM
crane porn city USA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 06:36:37 PM
Airlines doubling the amount they pay to the airport....ticket prices and parking no significant increase...this is a no brainer
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article62063222.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 23, 2016, 06:41:13 PM
sounds legit :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 06:48:10 PM
sounds legit :dubious:

Which part?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 07:24:32 PM
sounds legit :dubious:

Which part?

sounds legit :dubious:

Which part?
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 07:44:37 PM
Summary

-Form of agreement with airlines would be residual. Transferring the financial risk of program financing to the airlines.

-The revenue generating capacity at the airport does not change with the cost of the program

-Airlines pay 100% of the incremental cost of the program

- Fiscal Year 2015 Cost per Enplanement (CPE) $6.70

- Estimated Program Cost per Enplanement (CPE) in 2015 Dollars is $8.80 - below 50 percentile of medium sized US airports
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 07:49:43 PM
seriously, it must be nice to live in a world where there's so much free money.  i try to give you guys the benefit of the doubt, but you make it so difficult.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 07:52:44 PM
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But they also assumed the airport’s passenger numbers will grow by 1.9 percent to make the financial numbers work, and Councilwoman Teresa Loar, a committee member, was highly skeptical of that growth projection of nearly 40 percent more passengers by 2035.

“Our growth has been flat for 15 years,” Loar pointed out. “I don’t know where you come up with these numbers.”

their entire analysis is based upon 2% passenger growth.  and despite the fact that there has been no passenger growth for the last decade and a half, you accept the numbers and support the trash they put in front of you.  it's just so great. :lol:  lap it all up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 07:55:06 PM
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In 2015, based on an industry measurement, the cost of operating KCI was $6.70 per enplaned (departing) passenger. With a $970 million improvement project, which is the estimated cost of a new terminal, that cost per passenger boarding would bump up to about $9.00 in 2015 dollars, he said

only a 26% increase per passenger departed!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 07:57:50 PM
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In 2015, based on an industry measurement, the cost of operating KCI was $6.70 per enplaned (departing) passenger. With a $970 million improvement project, which is the estimated cost of a new terminal, that cost per passenger boarding would bump up to about $9.00 in 2015 dollars, he said

only a 26% increase per passenger departed!

Below 50 percentile of similar sized airports!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 07:58:43 PM
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Of that annual debt service, Green said the airport can afford to contribute about $22 million. So that leaves $64 million for the airlines to pay per year, which Burchett said the airlines accept. That’s up from the $34 million they contribute per year now.

Green and Burchett said the airlines would bear the risk with this financing, as they have with airport improvements in other cities, so they have an incentive to make sure these assumptions and numbers are credible.

only basically doubling the airlines' cost, but it's free money since the airlines are paying for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 07:59:29 PM
Quote
But they also assumed the airport’s passenger numbers will grow by 1.9 percent to make the financial numbers work, and Councilwoman Teresa Loar, a committee member, was highly skeptical of that growth projection of nearly 40 percent more passengers by 2035.

“Our growth has been flat for 15 years,” Loar pointed out. “I don’t know where you come up with these numbers.”

their entire analysis is based upon 2% passenger growth.  and despite the fact that there has been no passenger growth for the last decade and a half, you accept the numbers and support the trash they put in front of you.  it's just so great. :lol:  lap it all up.


-Form of agreement with airlines would be residual. Transferring the financial risk of program financing to the airlines.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:01:18 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:04:24 PM
Quote
Of that annual debt service, Green said the airport can afford to contribute about $22 million. So that leaves $64 million for the airlines to pay per year, which Burchett said the airlines accept. That’s up from the $34 million they contribute per year now.

Green and Burchett said the airlines would bear the risk with this financing, as they have with airport improvements in other cities, so they have an incentive to make sure these assumptions and numbers are credible.

only basically doubling the airlines' cost, but it's free money since the airlines are paying for it

I get where you are going but check out the peer comparison airports and the absence of a ticket cost skyrocket after a similar sized projects...slides 19-21.  Airport fees are 7% of the airlines cost (slide 16)
https://data.kcmo.org/Airport/Aviation-Update-To-Airport-Committee-presented-on-/wmzq-yt77
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:05:25 PM
Quote
But they also assumed the airport’s passenger numbers will grow by 1.9 percent to make the financial numbers work, and Councilwoman Teresa Loar, a committee member, was highly skeptical of that growth projection of nearly 40 percent more passengers by 2035.

“Our growth has been flat for 15 years,” Loar pointed out. “I don’t know where you come up with these numbers.”

their entire analysis is based upon 2% passenger growth.  and despite the fact that there has been no passenger growth for the last decade and a half, you accept the numbers and support the trash they put in front of you.  it's just so great. :lol:  lap it all up.


-Form of agreement with airlines would be residual. Transferring the financial risk of program financing to the airlines.

you aren't very smart if you actually believe that the airlines are going to voluntarily reduce their margins.  why would they?  you can't answer that question.  why do they care what our airport looks like?  you can't answer that question either.  nothing about our airport affects their business model.  so why would they sign up to lose money?  they feel sorry for us?  some sort of altruism that i don't know about?

it would be really simple for the airlines to agree to limit ticket price increases to a factor directly tied to inflation, i wonder if they'll agree to that?  or should we just wink at each other and pinky swear?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 23, 2016, 08:06:46 PM
Take it to the platte city thread, yeesh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:06:56 PM
Quote
Of that annual debt service, Green said the airport can afford to contribute about $22 million. So that leaves $64 million for the airlines to pay per year, which Burchett said the airlines accept. That’s up from the $34 million they contribute per year now.

Green and Burchett said the airlines would bear the risk with this financing, as they have with airport improvements in other cities, so they have an incentive to make sure these assumptions and numbers are credible.

only basically doubling the airlines' cost, but it's free money since the airlines are paying for it

I get where you are going but check out the peer comparison airports and the absence of a ticket cost skyrocket after a similar sized projects...slides 19-21.  Airport fees are 7% of the airlines cost (slide 16)
https://data.kcmo.org/Airport/Aviation-Update-To-Airport-Committee-presented-on-/wmzq-yt77


sorry but i'm beyond trusting any data coming out of sly james' office, i know you blindly trust him but i don't.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:07:38 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:10:51 PM
Quote
But they also assumed the airport’s passenger numbers will grow by 1.9 percent to make the financial numbers work, and Councilwoman Teresa Loar, a committee member, was highly skeptical of that growth projection of nearly 40 percent more passengers by 2035.

“Our growth has been flat for 15 years,” Loar pointed out. “I don’t know where you come up with these numbers.”

their entire analysis is based upon 2% passenger growth.  and despite the fact that there has been no passenger growth for the last decade and a half, you accept the numbers and support the trash they put in front of you.  it's just so great. :lol:  lap it all up.


-Form of agreement with airlines would be residual. Transferring the financial risk of program financing to the airlines.

you aren't very smart if you actually believe that the airlines are going to voluntarily reduce their margins.  why would they?  you can't answer that question.  why do they care what our airport looks like?  you can't answer that question either.  nothing about our airport affects their business model.  so why would they sign up to lose money?  they feel sorry for us?  some sort of altruism that i don't know about?

it would be really simple for the airlines to agree to limit ticket price increases to a factor directly tied to inflation, i wonder if they'll agree to that?  or should we just wink at each other and pinky swear?

new terminals don't increase your ticket costs based on the data....too many other factors....

actually the airlines have stated the airport design affects their operations....and I'm sure they get a cut of the concessions sold at the airport which is super low...so maybe they make up their cost there?  I dont' know the answer to that....nor do you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.

the thing is, no one is disputing her numbers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:12:35 PM
Quote
Of that annual debt service, Green said the airport can afford to contribute about $22 million. So that leaves $64 million for the airlines to pay per year, which Burchett said the airlines accept. That’s up from the $34 million they contribute per year now.

Green and Burchett said the airlines would bear the risk with this financing, as they have with airport improvements in other cities, so they have an incentive to make sure these assumptions and numbers are credible.

only basically doubling the airlines' cost, but it's free money since the airlines are paying for it

I get where you are going but check out the peer comparison airports and the absence of a ticket cost skyrocket after a similar sized projects...slides 19-21.  Airport fees are 7% of the airlines cost (slide 16)
https://data.kcmo.org/Airport/Aviation-Update-To-Airport-Committee-presented-on-/wmzq-yt77


sorry but i'm beyond trusting any data coming out of sly james' office, i know you blindly trust him but i don't.

I'm happy to look at any other data you can find....since the mayor's office is now modifying data from their airport authority....AND the airlines consultant too.  How deep does this go?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:14:07 PM
Quote
But they also assumed the airport’s passenger numbers will grow by 1.9 percent to make the financial numbers work, and Councilwoman Teresa Loar, a committee member, was highly skeptical of that growth projection of nearly 40 percent more passengers by 2035.

“Our growth has been flat for 15 years,” Loar pointed out. “I don’t know where you come up with these numbers.”

their entire analysis is based upon 2% passenger growth.  and despite the fact that there has been no passenger growth for the last decade and a half, you accept the numbers and support the trash they put in front of you.  it's just so great. :lol:  lap it all up.


-Form of agreement with airlines would be residual. Transferring the financial risk of program financing to the airlines.

you aren't very smart if you actually believe that the airlines are going to voluntarily reduce their margins.  why would they?  you can't answer that question.  why do they care what our airport looks like?  you can't answer that question either.  nothing about our airport affects their business model.  so why would they sign up to lose money?  they feel sorry for us?  some sort of altruism that i don't know about?

it would be really simple for the airlines to agree to limit ticket price increases to a factor directly tied to inflation, i wonder if they'll agree to that?  or should we just wink at each other and pinky swear?

new terminals don't increase your ticket costs based on the data....too many other factors....

actually the airlines have stated the airport design affects their operations....and I'm sure they get a cut of the concessions sold at the airport which is super low...so maybe they make up their cost there?  I dont' know the answer to that....nor do you.

you're right i don't know the answer, but i do have common sense.  and common sense tells me that they're going to make up for the increased cost to do business at our airport somehow.  and i do know that money doesn't grow on trees.  and if the guy at the airline who signed up to lower my company's net income worked for me, he would be fired.  but we know that's not what's happening here.  they'll be made whole and then some. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:15:11 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.

the thing is, no one is disputing her numbers

I'm disputing her interjecting that she knows anything about airport financials.....and if she wouldn't have band-aid'd KCI in 2004, costs would be even lower for the past 11 years.....but wait, since 2004, our average ticket price has stayed below the domestic average..how could that be since the airline costs went up then????
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:17:04 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.

the thing is, no one is disputing her numbers

I'm disputing her interjecting that she knows anything about airport financials.....and if she wouldn't have band-aid'd KCI in 2004, costs would be even lower for the past 11 years.....but wait, since 2004, our average ticket price has stayed below the domestic average..how could that be since the airline costs went up then????
don't conflate the issues.  she's not speaking to the airport financials.  she simply stated the fact that airplane ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years, a fact that your side agrees with.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:18:15 PM
Quote
But they also assumed the airport’s passenger numbers will grow by 1.9 percent to make the financial numbers work, and Councilwoman Teresa Loar, a committee member, was highly skeptical of that growth projection of nearly 40 percent more passengers by 2035.

“Our growth has been flat for 15 years,” Loar pointed out. “I don’t know where you come up with these numbers.”

their entire analysis is based upon 2% passenger growth.  and despite the fact that there has been no passenger growth for the last decade and a half, you accept the numbers and support the trash they put in front of you.  it's just so great. :lol:  lap it all up.


-Form of agreement with airlines would be residual. Transferring the financial risk of program financing to the airlines.

you aren't very smart if you actually believe that the airlines are going to voluntarily reduce their margins.  why would they?  you can't answer that question.  why do they care what our airport looks like?  you can't answer that question either.  nothing about our airport affects their business model.  so why would they sign up to lose money?  they feel sorry for us?  some sort of altruism that i don't know about?

it would be really simple for the airlines to agree to limit ticket price increases to a factor directly tied to inflation, i wonder if they'll agree to that?  or should we just wink at each other and pinky swear?

new terminals don't increase your ticket costs based on the data....too many other factors....

actually the airlines have stated the airport design affects their operations....and I'm sure they get a cut of the concessions sold at the airport which is super low...so maybe they make up their cost there?  I dont' know the answer to that....nor do you.

you're right i don't know the answer, but i do have common sense.  and common sense tells me that they're going to make up for the increased cost to do business at our airport somehow.  and i do know that money doesn't grow on trees.  and if the guy at the airline who signed up to lower my company's net income worked for me, he would be fired.  but we know that's not what's happening here.  they'll be made whole and then some.

Oh I agree with you, businesses don't sign up for increased cost in they don't get anything out of it...I'm telling you they have stated their operations have been affected by KCI design and I'm certain their airport leases include a cut of the concessions and parking....which could cover off on their incremental cost increase of $2 a person.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:20:50 PM
so more free money is what you're saying?  we're giving them a cut of the concessions and parking which today the city gets?  so taking money from us?  how are we making up for that revenue loss?  $2 per passenger is a shitload of concession and parking when you consider the ratio of people who spend money on concessions/parking versus those who don't. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:22:17 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.

the thing is, no one is disputing her numbers

I'm disputing her interjecting that she knows anything about airport financials.....and if she wouldn't have band-aid'd KCI in 2004, costs would be even lower for the past 11 years.....but wait, since 2004, our average ticket price has stayed below the domestic average..how could that be since the airline costs went up then????
don't conflate the issues.  she's not speaking to the airport financials.  she simply stated the fact that airplane ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years, a fact that your side agrees with.

our ticket prices didn't rise after the last huge $ renovation....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:23:56 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.

the thing is, no one is disputing her numbers

I'm disputing her interjecting that she knows anything about airport financials.....and if she wouldn't have band-aid'd KCI in 2004, costs would be even lower for the past 11 years.....but wait, since 2004, our average ticket price has stayed below the domestic average..how could that be since the airline costs went up then????
don't conflate the issues.  she's not speaking to the airport financials.  she simply stated the fact that airplane ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years, a fact that your side agrees with.

our ticket prices didn't rise after the last huge $ renovation....

she stated that airport ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years.  do you agree with that fact?  because the people you support do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:25:23 PM
so more free money is what you're saying?  we're giving them a cut of the concessions and parking which today the city gets?  so taking money from us?  how are we making up for that revenue loss?  $2 per passenger is a shitload of concession and parking when you consider the ratio of people who spend money on concessions/parking versus those who don't.

their current lease gives them the same I'm pretty sure.....they increase their revenues from more concessions being sold.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:26:14 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.

the thing is, no one is disputing her numbers

I'm disputing her interjecting that she knows anything about airport financials.....and if she wouldn't have band-aid'd KCI in 2004, costs would be even lower for the past 11 years.....but wait, since 2004, our average ticket price has stayed below the domestic average..how could that be since the airline costs went up then????
don't conflate the issues.  she's not speaking to the airport financials.  she simply stated the fact that airplane ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years, a fact that your side agrees with.

our ticket prices didn't rise after the last huge $ renovation....

she stated that airport ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years.  do you agree with that fact?  because the people you support do.

The data shows that....but you don't trust that data because it came from "sly's office" I thought?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:27:57 PM
so more free money is what you're saying?  we're giving them a cut of the concessions and parking which today the city gets?  so taking money from us?  how are we making up for that revenue loss?  $2 per passenger is a shitload of concession and parking when you consider the ratio of people who spend money on concessions/parking versus those who don't.

their current lease gives them the same I'm pretty sure.....they increase their revenues from more concessions being sold.
parking is going to remain flat because ridership is going to remain flat.
concession revenue will not increase by $30 million dollars a year.
there's a mystery delta
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:28:15 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.

the thing is, no one is disputing her numbers

I'm disputing her interjecting that she knows anything about airport financials.....and if she wouldn't have band-aid'd KCI in 2004, costs would be even lower for the past 11 years.....but wait, since 2004, our average ticket price has stayed below the domestic average..how could that be since the airline costs went up then????
don't conflate the issues.  she's not speaking to the airport financials.  she simply stated the fact that airplane ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years, a fact that your side agrees with.

our ticket prices didn't rise after the last huge $ renovation....

she stated that airport ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years.  do you agree with that fact?  because the people you support do.

The data shows that....but you don't trust that data because it came from "sly's office" I thought?

yes or no?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:30:17 PM
do you agree that mci ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years with no year over year growth?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:31:45 PM
Quote
KCI remains one of the lowest cost medium-sized airports in the country, and would still be in the middle of the pack even with this costly project, said John Green, chief financial officer for the Aviation Department.

this is a great quote.  now, read it slowly.
today:  one of the lowest cost medium sized airports in the country
tomorrow:  middle of the pack

but free money so whatevs

Loar spearheaded that idiotic renovation in 2004 that raised enplanement fees and only got us a new floor...but now we should totally listen to her.

the thing is, no one is disputing her numbers

I'm disputing her interjecting that she knows anything about airport financials.....and if she wouldn't have band-aid'd KCI in 2004, costs would be even lower for the past 11 years.....but wait, since 2004, our average ticket price has stayed below the domestic average..how could that be since the airline costs went up then????
don't conflate the issues.  she's not speaking to the airport financials.  she simply stated the fact that airplane ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years, a fact that your side agrees with.

our ticket prices didn't rise after the last huge $ renovation....

she stated that airport ridership has remained flat for the past 15 years.  do you agree with that fact?  because the people you support do.

The data shows that....but you don't trust that data because it came from "sly's office" I thought?

yes or no?

oh for Christ's sake 'clams..."yes the data shows growth has been flat for the past 15 years".  I didn't know we could cherry pick the data from that report and completely disregard the other data.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:35:40 PM
ok good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
ok good
:cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:38:26 PM
financial models such as the one they're using to justify the expense associated with this build have levers that are pulled which trigger the results they want the model to output.  one of the triggers in their model that they have pulled is ridership growth.  we all agree that there has been no rider growth at mci for 15 years.  in order to get the desired output from their model, they've assumed growth.  without the growth, their model doesn't work.  ignoring the past 15 years, where will the growth come from? only the consultants know.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:40:50 PM
or growth won't occur.  and the model is busted, and the airlines say "we assumed growth that never happened because X, Y, and Z and we have no option but to increase ticket prices, sorry guys".
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:44:06 PM
financial models such as the one they're using to justify the expense associated with this build have levers that are pulled which trigger the results they want the model to output.  one of the triggers in their model that they have pulled is ridership growth.  we all agree that there has been no rider growth at mci for 15 years.  in order to get the desired output from their model, they've assumed growth.  without the growth, their model doesn't work.  ignoring the past 15 years, where will the growth come from? only the consultants know.

It grew ~50% from 90-2000.

Also...
Form of agreement with airlines would be residual. Transferring the financial risk of program financing to the airlines

So they must be pretty confident in their consultant's model....which I know, you think all comes from increasing your ticket cost...but history shows that's not true.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:46:10 PM
or growth won't occur.  and the model is busted, and the airlines say "we assumed growth that never happened because X, Y, and Z and we have no option but to increase ticket prices, sorry guys".

KCI didn't grow in passengers from 2004 (last renovations) to today...yet our ticket costs didn't rise at any different rate than domestic average...but you know.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:47:20 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:48:31 PM
or growth won't occur.  and the model is busted, and the airlines say "we assumed growth that never happened because X, Y, and Z and we have no option but to increase ticket prices, sorry guys".

KCI didn't grow in passengers from 2004 (last renovations) to today...yet our ticket costs didn't rise at any different rate than domestic average...but you know.

so you think that our previous 15 years of undisputed data is an anomaly and growth will appear (much like the billion dollars of cost to build the new terminal) out of thin air?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:51:08 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:52:29 PM
or growth won't occur.  and the model is busted, and the airlines say "we assumed growth that never happened because X, Y, and Z and we have no option but to increase ticket prices, sorry guys".

KCI didn't grow in passengers from 2004 (last renovations) to today...yet our ticket costs didn't rise at any different rate than domestic average...but you know.

so you think that our previous 15 years of undisputed data is an anomaly and growth will appear (much like the billion dollars of cost to build the new terminal) out of thin air?

I have no idea how the airline's consultants (not the city's) came up with their growth estimates....maybe 1990-2000 growth has some influence? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 08:55:43 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing.

yet their costs went up in 2004 and our ticket prices didn't skyrocket...they only matched the industry....the fact is the terminal costs is only 7% of their total operating expenses....not to mention competition.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:56:42 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing.

yet their costs went up in 2004 and our ticket prices didn't skyrocket...they only matched the industry....the fact is the terminal costs is only 7% of their total operating expenses....not to mention competition.

agree on the competition at MCI, there's a crap ton of it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on February 23, 2016, 08:57:24 PM
if ticket costs aren't going to go up why wouldn't the airlines agree to cap increases tied to inflation?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 08:58:43 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing.

yet their costs went up in 2004 and our ticket prices didn't skyrocket...they only matched the industry....the fact is the terminal costs is only 7% of their total operating expenses....not to mention competition.

2004, the last time we spent a billion dollars $250M on our airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 09:00:07 PM
If airlines were as sensitive to airport terminal costs as you are assuming, they would be telling KCI to not touch a thing....but they aren't.  They see the value in a new terminal to their operations as well..

Quote
Salomon said a new terminal makes sense from an airline perspective because it helps with the ebb and flow of airlines getting in and out. Because airplanes are growing in size, the airport needs gate flexibility and the ability to add more gates when needed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/02/airlines-shoot-down-new-kci-renovation-idea.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 09:01:06 PM
if ticket costs aren't going to go up why wouldn't the airlines agree to cap increases tied to inflation?

Because their major operating costs (fuel and employees in unions) aren't tied to inflation?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 09:02:27 PM
If airlines were as sensitive to airport terminal costs as you are assuming, they would be telling KCI to not touch a thing....but they aren't.  They see the value in a new terminal to their operations as well..

Quote
Salomon said a new terminal makes sense from an airline perspective because it helps with the ebb and flow of airlines getting in and out. Because airplanes are growing in size, the airport needs gate flexibility and the ability to add more gates when needed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/02/airlines-shoot-down-new-kci-renovation-idea.html

southwest isn't getting away from their 737's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 09:03:04 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing.

yet their costs went up in 2004 and our ticket prices didn't skyrocket...they only matched the industry....the fact is the terminal costs is only 7% of their total operating expenses....not to mention competition.

2004, the last time we spent a billion dollars $250M on our airport

Their cost per enplanement went up $2 since that time.  Sounds familiar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 09:05:00 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing.

yet their costs went up in 2004 and our ticket prices didn't skyrocket...they only matched the industry....the fact is the terminal costs is only 7% of their total operating expenses....not to mention competition.

2004, the last time we spent a billion dollars $250M on our airport

Their cost per enplanement went up $2 since that time.  Sounds familiar.
my goodness, you really are looking at it that way. 
yikes, man.  support the rough ridin' thing.  i can't help.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 09:06:13 PM
If airlines were as sensitive to airport terminal costs as you are assuming, they would be telling KCI to not touch a thing....but they aren't.  They see the value in a new terminal to their operations as well..

Quote
Salomon said a new terminal makes sense from an airline perspective because it helps with the ebb and flow of airlines getting in and out. Because airplanes are growing in size, the airport needs gate flexibility and the ability to add more gates when needed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/02/airlines-shoot-down-new-kci-renovation-idea.html

southwest isn't getting away from their 737's

yet they are the major driver behind this from the airline side.  the movement of planes today is already hampered no matter the size of the plane per some prior presentation. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 09:10:51 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing.

yet their costs went up in 2004 and our ticket prices didn't skyrocket...they only matched the industry....the fact is the terminal costs is only 7% of their total operating expenses....not to mention competition.

2004, the last time we spent a billion dollars $250M on our airport

Their cost per enplanement went up $2 since that time.  Sounds familiar.
my goodness, you really are looking at it that way. 
yikes, man.  support the rough ridin' thing.  i can't help.

Just one piece of data reflecting their costs that you've told us that is going to increase our ticket prices despite data showing that doesn't happen here or in other cities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 09:11:45 PM
If airlines were as sensitive to airport terminal costs as you are assuming, they would be telling KCI to not touch a thing....but they aren't.  They see the value in a new terminal to their operations as well..

Quote
Salomon said a new terminal makes sense from an airline perspective because it helps with the ebb and flow of airlines getting in and out. Because airplanes are growing in size, the airport needs gate flexibility and the ability to add more gates when needed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/02/airlines-shoot-down-new-kci-renovation-idea.html

southwest isn't getting away from their 737's

yet they are the major driver behind this from the airline side.  the movement of planes today is already hampered no matter the size of the plane per some prior presentation. 

they're the major driver behind this from the airline side because they stand to gain the most. 

i'm not going to scour the web for supporting data, but their planes have no problem getting in and out of MCI
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2016, 09:12:16 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing.

yet their costs went up in 2004 and our ticket prices didn't skyrocket...they only matched the industry....the fact is the terminal costs is only 7% of their total operating expenses....not to mention competition.

2004, the last time we spent a billion dollars $250M on our airport

Their cost per enplanement went up $2 since that time.  Sounds familiar.
my goodness, you really are looking at it that way. 
yikes, man.  support the rough ridin' thing.  i can't help.

Just one piece of data reflecting their costs that you've told us that is going to increase our ticket prices despite data showing that doesn't happen here or in other cities.

they didn't spend any money, that's why :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 09:16:58 PM
If airlines were as sensitive to airport terminal costs as you are assuming, they would be telling KCI to not touch a thing....but they aren't.  They see the value in a new terminal to their operations as well..

Quote
Salomon said a new terminal makes sense from an airline perspective because it helps with the ebb and flow of airlines getting in and out. Because airplanes are growing in size, the airport needs gate flexibility and the ability to add more gates when needed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/02/airlines-shoot-down-new-kci-renovation-idea.html

southwest isn't getting away from their 737's

yet they are the major driver behind this from the airline side.  the movement of planes today is already hampered no matter the size of the plane per some prior presentation. 

they're the major driver behind this from the airline side because they stand to gain the most. 

i'm not going to scour the web for supporting data, but their planes have no problem getting in and out of MCI

It has to do with the taxiing routes and the horseshoe design today cuts those down to single paths for many gates....that's from memory alone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2016, 09:18:21 PM
there is no risk to the airlines lol, what risk are you talking about?
why won't they sign an agreement that limits their ability to raise ticket prices to line up with a factor connected to inflation?

That is from the presentation today.  I'm sure Loar will bulldog and get to the bottom of that agreement for us!

Yes, let's get them to sign that....tell me how that goes.

So to be clear, our own historical data of flat # of fliers and other airport's data after a new terminal show that it doesn't increase your ticket costs....but we're just ignoring all that data?

what's the risk you keep bringing up?  there's no risk the the airlines. they'll gladly pay the ~$30M delta.  and then they'll pass that cost increase along to you and i.
and no, the airlines aren't going to agree to not raising ticket prices because that's exactly what they plan on doing.

yet their costs went up in 2004 and our ticket prices didn't skyrocket...they only matched the industry....the fact is the terminal costs is only 7% of their total operating expenses....not to mention competition.

2004, the last time we spent a billion dollars $250M on our airport

Their cost per enplanement went up $2 since that time.  Sounds familiar.
my goodness, you really are looking at it that way. 
yikes, man.  support the rough ridin' thing.  i can't help.

Just one piece of data reflecting their costs that you've told us that is going to increase our ticket prices despite data showing that doesn't happen here or in other cities.

they didn't spend any money, that's why :lol:

your ticket price didn't go up either :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 24, 2016, 09:38:52 AM
If airlines were as sensitive to airport terminal costs as you are assuming, they would be telling KCI to not touch a thing....but they aren't.  They see the value in a new terminal to their operations as well..

Quote
Salomon said a new terminal makes sense from an airline perspective because it helps with the ebb and flow of airlines getting in and out. Because airplanes are growing in size, the airport needs gate flexibility and the ability to add more gates when needed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/02/airlines-shoot-down-new-kci-renovation-idea.html

southwest isn't getting away from their 737's

this is true, but the planes are getting larger
http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/737-800/737-300/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 09:53:17 AM
JFC, both of you are a little insane.

Will renovating/rebuilding KCI cost money? yes. higher fees? probably. Does KCI need renovation? yes. I mean, it was built in 1972. air travel has changed drastically in the last 45 years. It's insane to think an airport that was built that long ago can still be efficient in today's world.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but it's pretty obvious that KCI is not a very secure airport, and I've sat in security lines just as slow here than at any other airport in the country. It's really not much more convenient than any other airport. ever had a layover in KCI? good god. had to switch terminals? the worst.

"ticket prices" are not a huge concern for me. I honestly don't know the difference in price between the cheapest airport and the most expensive airport, but I can't imagine it's enough to halt air travel out of KC. I understand your desire to not do a damn thing to the airport clams, I do. I get that you're a fiscal conservative. Unfortunately cities do have to spend money on projects every now and then.

I swear to god if Teresa Loar's name is brought up one more time I'm going to lose it. She's absolutely insane and complains like a little kid when she doesn't get her way. Even her supporters were embarrassed by her behavior at the council meeting a few months ago. Not very becoming of a city official.

Last thing: the year after it was built TWA basically said "oh crap, we can't really fly 747's out of here" it's a huge PITA. Which is still true. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 10:03:34 AM
mci is very efficient, we're essentially a single terminal now and it works great

why would i have a layover at mci?  i live here.

mci isn't very secure?  let's talk about all of the terrorists that use mci's lack of security to reign terror upon us

the current design was developed by twa, for good or bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 24, 2016, 10:08:47 AM
mci is very efficient, we're essentially a single terminal now and it works great

why would i have a layover at mci?  i live here.

mci isn't very secure?  let's talk about all of the terrorists that use mci's lack of security to reign terror upon us

the current design was developed by twa, for good or bad

obviously the bad since they essentially asked them to tear them down and start over a year after the airport opened.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
Reflecting back clams does have fair points and questions about what happens if their assumptions don't work, etc. I'd expect much more info to come out prior to any vote.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 10:10:32 AM
mci is very efficient, we're essentially a single terminal now and it works great

why would i have a layover at mci?  i live here.

mci isn't very secure?  let's talk about all of the terrorists that use mci's lack of security to reign terror upon us

the current design was developed by twa, for good or bad

I have had layovers at MCI when I didn't live here.

it may be efficient for you, but it's not for the airlines.

Even though I brought it up, I do hate the security excuse. I don't like the "what if" line of questioning. But, it will get brought up, I mean the non-secure area is like 5 feet from the secure area...doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

yes I'm aware, and they were immediately saying it was a poor design. so....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 10:12:26 AM
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 10:14:09 AM
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 11:30:11 AM
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.
at least city council member canady mandated that a percentage of JE Dunn's workers on the cerner bannister project are locally based. i was surprised that they chose that area to build and i am interested to see how it impacts that part of the city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 12:06:45 PM
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.
at least city council member canady mandated that a percentage of JE Dunn's workers on the cerner bannister project are locally based. i was surprised that they chose that area to build and i am interested to see how it impacts that part of the city.

pretty disappointed they didn't choose downtown, but I am invested in downtown, and I hate urban sprawl/campus construction projects.
Do we know what the timeline on this project is?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2016, 12:11:04 PM
I bid some crap on building 9, but came in second  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 24, 2016, 12:11:49 PM
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.

Incentives are a zero sum game, but due to state line, aren't going away anytime soon.  KCMO is terrified of losing jobs to KS and vice versa.  Sporting KC and Cerner just dumped thousands of jobs and Sporting Park over in WyCo due to huge incentives.  When Bannister was back on the table, KCMO wasn't about to lose the jobs again.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.

Incentives are a zero sum game, but due to state line, aren't going away anytime soon.  KCMO is terrified of losing jobs to KS and vice versa.  Sporting KC and Cerner just dumped thousands of jobs and Sporting Park over in WyCo due to huge incentives.  When Bannister was back on the table, KCMO wasn't about to lose the jobs again.   

Oh I understand that. and get why they did it. just can be annoying when we have great downtown resurgence and the largest company in the metro give them the big middle finger. Sprint did the same thing when they built the campus in OP. if we would stop building campus's and build downtown we'd have at least 3 more highrise buildings (sprint, cerner, garmin) Cerner would probably need like 4 buildings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 24, 2016, 12:46:28 PM
A downtown Garmin does not work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2016, 12:47:03 PM
Is Garmin still a thing?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 24, 2016, 12:48:51 PM
Ya man, doing really well actually.  I figured them dead after the nuvi sales dried up but they are kicking ass in the fitness and some other markets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 12:49:39 PM
A downtown Garmin does not work.

maybe not their production facility, but they could certainly office downtown...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 24, 2016, 12:53:18 PM
A downtown Garmin does not work.

maybe not their production facility, but they could certainly office downtown...

Nope. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 12:55:18 PM
A downtown Garmin does not work.

maybe not their production facility, but they could certainly office downtown...

Nope.

oh ok. guess they must be pretty special then.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
Who works at the Cerner in SE KC? I always drive by it and feel like it's a weird place for such a huge corporation. Is that location their first one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 24, 2016, 01:00:54 PM
A downtown Garmin does not work.

maybe not their production facility, but they could certainly office downtown...

Nope.

oh ok. guess they must be pretty special then.

Agreed.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
Who works at the Cerner in SE KC? I always drive by it and feel like it's a weird place for such a huge corporation. Is that location their first one?

pretty sure that was their first building. I have no idea who actually works there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2016, 01:05:03 PM
Good to know. I've always seen it and thought it should be in a more visible location in the city, but I guess that's why they have the new location as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 24, 2016, 01:08:01 PM
Who works at the Cerner in SE KC? I always drive by it and feel like it's a weird place for such a huge corporation. Is that location their first one?

pretty sure that was their first building. I have no idea who actually works there.

It's like tech support / customer service type folks.  Maybe not all but some.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 01:16:08 PM
Who works at the Cerner in SE KC? I always drive by it and feel like it's a weird place for such a huge corporation. Is that location their first one?

pretty sure that was their first building. I have no idea who actually works there.

I think NKC campus is their first buildings. They took over that SKC location from the old Kauffman drug company.... And was one reason they built/ecpanded at Bannister.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Catosaurus on February 24, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.
at least city council member canady mandated that a percentage of JE Dunn's workers on the cerner bannister project are locally based. i was surprised that they chose that area to build and i am interested to see how it impacts that part of the city.

pretty disappointed they didn't choose downtown, but I am invested in downtown, and I hate urban sprawl/campus construction projects.
Do we know what the timeline on this project is?

Pretty sure the Cerner/SKC owners owned all that land around Bannister since that was where SKC's stadium was originally going to go. Since it wasn't going to be used for Sporting, it made sense that they would use it for Cerner instead of just sitting fallow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 01:50:45 PM
cerner downtown would have been increds and should have happened
sprint's op campus came about long before downtown's resurgence, the planning for it started in the very early 90's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 24, 2016, 01:51:54 PM
Is downtown even big enough for that to happen. 

The boom surrounding that would be absolutely huge.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 01:52:47 PM
ya it is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 24, 2016, 01:56:26 PM
I mean, Lib just said something about bidding some work in "building 9".  That quantity of space in downtown proper..... 

That would be the biggest downtown construction project in KC's history.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
Is downtown even big enough for that to happen. 

The boom surrounding that would be absolutely huge.

There is currently about the same amount of class A officespace downtown that cerner is proposing at Bannister (4M sf)... 85% of that is occupied... So you would have seen quite a few new buildings... Plenty of surface lots for that.  Town Pavilion which I believe is the largest building by square foot office space is a little over 1M sf for sizing comparison.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 24, 2016, 02:06:37 PM
cerner downtown would have been increds and should have happened
sprint's op campus came about long before downtown's resurgence, the planning for it started in the very early 90's

And Sprint is filling a small fraction of its office space after their series of gigantic cutbacks. They have all sorts of floors and partial floors that have gone dark and empty. Place is like a morgue.

Downtown probably dodged a bullet there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2016, 02:07:00 PM
If they ever throw the Royals downtown, will they knock down the crappy part of the River Market?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 02:09:19 PM
If they ever throw the Royals downtown, will they knock down the crappy part of the River Market?

:ck: which part would that be?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 24, 2016, 02:09:46 PM
They should put it just east of Troost, somewhere north of 18th street.  That would help that area out a crap load.  It would displace a whole lot of ppl that the city loves to act like they want to help, though, so it probably would never happen. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2016, 02:11:59 PM
It was only a 2 story building.  I don't know about them all, but the plans I've seen for cerner trails are all 2-5 stories.

Building vertical is super expensive tho. I'm bidding a 31 story building right now that is probably double the cost of spreading that square footage out over a multiple building campus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 24, 2016, 02:12:20 PM
They should put it just east of Troost, somewhere north of 18th street.  That would help that area out a crap load.  It would displace a whole lot of ppl that the city loves to act like they want to help, though, so it probably would never happen.

A tie-in to the NLBM, Jazz museum and the rest of 18th and Vine would be incredibly cool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 24, 2016, 02:12:59 PM
It was only a 2 story building.  I don't know about them all, but the plans I've seen for cerner trails are all 2-5 stories.

Building vertical is super expensive tho. I'm bidding a 31 story building right now that is probably double the cost of spreading that square footage out over a multiple building campus.

That changes downtown a little, though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 02:15:55 PM
It was only a 2 story building.  I don't know about them all, but the plans I've seen for cerner trails are all 2-5 stories.

Building vertical is super expensive tho. I'm bidding a 31 story building right now that is probably double the cost of spreading that square footage out over a multiple building campus.

land is also part of the cost though. say you need 5 acres of land to build a 5 story building, that could be accomplished with 1.5 acres if a 30 story building is built. I have no idea if those numbers are right, just a guess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2016, 02:18:05 PM
It was only a 2 story building.  I don't know about them all, but the plans I've seen for cerner trails are all 2-5 stories.

Building vertical is super expensive tho. I'm bidding a 31 story building right now that is probably double the cost of spreading that square footage out over a multiple building campus.

land is also part of the cost though. say you need 5 acres of land to build a 5 story building, that could be accomplished with 1.5 acres if a 30 story building is built. I have no idea if those numbers are right, just a guess.

Land in kc is cheap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2016, 02:24:23 PM
If they ever throw the Royals downtown, will they knock down the crappy part of the River Market?

:ck: which part would that be?
The east part where that shitty park is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 02:42:07 PM
If they ever throw the Royals downtown, will they knock down the crappy part of the River Market?

:ck: which part would that be?
The east part where that shitty park is.

Columbus park? Old but great hood. Just had family buy a place there and I'm super excited for them!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 02:44:01 PM
It was only a 2 story building.  I don't know about them all, but the plans I've seen for cerner trails are all 2-5 stories.

Building vertical is super expensive tho. I'm bidding a 31 story building right now that is probably double the cost of spreading that square footage out over a multiple building campus.

That changes downtown a little, though.

An amazon type urban campus would be super impactful to downtown.... Skyscrapers are fun but the impact a well designed 4M sf urban campus would be much bigger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
If they ever throw the Royals downtown, will they knock down the crappy part of the River Market?

:ck: which part would that be?
The east part where that shitty park is.

Columbus park? Old but great hood. Just had family buy a place there and I'm super excited for them!
Well now I feel like a dick.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 24, 2016, 02:57:33 PM
I bid some crap on building 9, but came in second  :curse:

But Dolphins Stadium!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 24, 2016, 03:01:40 PM
If they ever throw the Royals downtown, will they knock down the crappy part of the River Market?

:ck: which part would that be?
The east part where that shitty park is.

Columbus park? Old but great hood. Just had family buy a place there and I'm super excited for them!
Well now I feel like a dick.

That whole park is under construction right now.  Not sure what they are doing but it's going down.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 03:02:16 PM
If they ever throw the Royals downtown, will they knock down the crappy part of the River Market?

:ck: which part would that be?
The east part where that shitty park is.

Columbus park? Old but great hood. Just had family buy a place there and I'm super excited for them!
Well now I feel like a dick.

No worries... Lots of places there don't give off the best first impression... They grabbed a newer built place...

The park is getting a new rehab by parks and rec
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 24, 2016, 03:21:43 PM
Great last 2 pages. Cerner really needs to hire all you bloggers as consultants before their next project
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2016, 03:26:40 PM
I bid some crap on building 9, but came in second  :curse:

But Dolphins Stadium!

I didn't participate in that at all  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 24, 2016, 03:51:19 PM
I bid some crap on building 9, but came in second  :curse:

But Dolphins Stadium!

I didn't participate in that at all  :frown:

Well, did you at least go look at them in the shop and puff your chest out a little?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2016, 03:55:30 PM
No, I did see a picture tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 07:35:58 PM
Grab your Oculus and enjoy a sneak peak
https://www.youtube.com/embed/D8PrA0cZh_E
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 07:57:50 PM
so that thing is taking up the only lane with a double line?  i didn't know that.  what happens to the poor saps stuck behind it and having to stop at each stop while riders get on and get off?  the whole line of cars behind just have to wait? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on February 24, 2016, 08:03:10 PM


so that thing is taking up the only lane with a double line?  i didn't know that.  what happens to the poor saps stuck behind it and having to stop at each stop while riders get on and get off?  the whole line of cars behind just have to wait?

What line of cars? Everyone will be on the streetcar!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 08:07:34 PM
so that thing is taking up the only lane with a double line?  i didn't know that.  what happens to the poor saps stuck behind it and having to stop at each stop while riders get on and get off?  the whole line of cars behind just have to wait?

Most of the route has a dedicated turn lane as well but yes.  Luckily KC has no traffic....and that sitch also easily avoided by using two way streets one block east (walnut) and west (baltimore).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 08:09:52 PM
so that thing is taking up the only lane with a double line?  i didn't know that.  what happens to the poor saps stuck behind it and having to stop at each stop while riders get on and get off?  the whole line of cars behind just have to wait?

Most of the route has a dedicated turn lane as well but yes.  Luckily KC has no traffic....and that sitch also easily avoided by using two way streets one block east (walnut) and west (baltimore).

that's pretty shitty though, i mean rush hour?  eff that. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 08:12:31 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 08:14:50 PM
so that thing is taking up the only lane with a double line?  i didn't know that.  what happens to the poor saps stuck behind it and having to stop at each stop while riders get on and get off?  the whole line of cars behind just have to wait?

Most of the route has a dedicated turn lane as well but yes.  Luckily KC has no traffic....and that sitch also easily avoided by using two way streets one block east (walnut) and west (baltimore).

that's pretty shitty though, i mean rush hour?  eff that.

There is still no traffic....

The only real congestion I've seen is pre-concerts people backing up onto Main getting into garages....but that happens w/o the streetcar on the route.  Idiots don't understand there are completely empty streets a block away.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 08:15:52 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza

More lane real estate to deal with through there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 08:26:30 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza

More lane real estate to deal with through there.

I'm in favor of a dedicated center lane for rail midtown-plaza.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 08:29:02 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza

More lane real estate to deal with through there.

I'm in favor of a dedicated center lane for rail midtown-plaza.

me too!  The business owners at this point have been the "anti" to dedicated lanes....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 08:37:12 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza

More lane real estate to deal with through there.

I'm in favor of a dedicated center lane for rail midtown-plaza.

that's about the only way it would work but that would cut out the turn lanes which are needed.  then having stops in the middle of the street creates an issue of getting people to whatever side of the street they are heading to without impeding traffic.  cars need to have the right of way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 08:37:46 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza

More lane real estate to deal with through there.

I'm in favor of a dedicated center lane for rail midtown-plaza.

me too!  The business owners at this point have been the "anti" to dedicated lanes....

that seems odd. I know it can be a pain to get from the platform to the sidewalk, but I just don't see how an integrated streetcar would work in midtown.

but, could you imagine the bar hopping ability? plaza, westport, martini corner, crossroads, p&l, rivermarket? holy cow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 08:42:19 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza

More lane real estate to deal with through there.

I'm in favor of a dedicated center lane for rail midtown-plaza.

that's about the only way it would work but that would cut out the turn lanes which are needed.  then having stops in the middle of the street creates an issue of getting people to whatever side of the street they are heading to without impeding traffic.  cars need to have the right of way.

Let's cross that bridge when we come to it...but both of these "problems" have been handled in other cities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 08:49:23 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza

More lane real estate to deal with through there.

I'm in favor of a dedicated center lane for rail midtown-plaza.

me too!  The business owners at this point have been the "anti" to dedicated lanes....

that seems odd. I know it can be a pain to get from the platform to the sidewalk, but I just don't see how an integrated streetcar would work in midtown.

but, could you imagine the bar hopping ability? plaza, westport, martini corner, crossroads, p&l, rivermarket? holy cow!

can i imagine it?  ya, i do it all the time. ever heard of uber?  taxi cab?  designated drivers?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 08:52:41 PM
and there's absolutely no way that would fly on Main St through midtown/plaza

More lane real estate to deal with through there.

I'm in favor of a dedicated center lane for rail midtown-plaza.

me too!  The business owners at this point have been the "anti" to dedicated lanes....

that seems odd. I know it can be a pain to get from the platform to the sidewalk, but I just don't see how an integrated streetcar would work in midtown.

but, could you imagine the bar hopping ability? plaza, westport, martini corner, crossroads, p&l, rivermarket? holy cow!

can i imagine it?  ya, i do it all the time. ever heard of uber?  taxi cab?  designated drivers?

ok man. we got it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 09:10:20 PM
what you don't get is that your dream of using the streetcar as a party bus is an inflated pipe dream.  just saying.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 24, 2016, 09:33:57 PM
Bus at night(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/e7f26bdcfb22ce1aa03277c3961280fe.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 09:53:32 PM
KCATA is looking to expand some bus late night hours till 2am to match streetcar hours.  Deciding next month.  Great to see the 2 mile streetcar making a larger impact on the transit system!

Streetcar opening events announced tomorrow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2016, 10:01:17 PM
Reflecting back clams does have fair points and questions about what happens if their assumptions don't work, etc. I'd expect much more info to come out prior to any vote.

i've done this type of work for 15 years in the private sector and honestly, nothing will happen when/if their assumptions don't work. because no matter how much due diligence they put forth in trying to get their assumptions (cost/benefits/etc) correct, they won't be correct. it's just that hard to do.  the goal should be to get them as close as possible to avoid massive overruns. but is that the goal?  or is the goal to make it look good to get a yes vote?  when this thing is complete (and there's no doubt in my mind that it will be greenlighted) no one associated with the go forward decision will be around to be held to task and more importantly, the original promise of what was going to be delivered will long have been forgotten.

that's why i am so hung up on transparency in the process and vetting the numbers being used to sway public opinion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 24, 2016, 10:08:17 PM
what you don't get is that your dream of using the streetcar as a party bus is an inflated pipe dream.  just saying.
Man. It was an off hand comment. If you think that's my sole desire you're wrong. I want a better transit system because I've lived in cities with good transit and I want that for kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2016, 10:15:04 PM
Reflecting back clams does have fair points and questions about what happens if their assumptions don't work, etc. I'd expect much more info to come out prior to any vote.

i've done this type of work for 15 years in the private sector and honestly, nothing will happen when/if their assumptions don't work. because no matter how much due diligence they put forth in trying to get their assumptions (cost/benefits/etc) correct, they won't be correct. it's just that hard to do.  the goal should be to get them as close as possible to avoid massive overruns. but is that the goal?  or is the goal to make it look good to get a yes vote?  when this thing is complete (and there's no doubt in my mind that it will be greenlighted) no one associated with the go forward decision will be around to be held to task and more importantly, the original promise of what was going to be delivered will long have been forgotten.

that's why i am so hung up on transparency in the process and vetting the numbers being used to sway public opinion.

I don't think they've done near a good enough job to convince Joe KCMO to vote yes on it....but 99% of them that would vote no right now are way more shallow unintelligent reasons that your concerns.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2016, 12:09:35 AM
Guys, the bus already stops on main when it is one lane. The streetcar supposedly will have shorter stops than the bus due to more doors and nobody having to pay or swipe a bus pass.

In midtown i would imagine the streetcar would share the existing bus-only lane with the bus, right? Why wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 07:29:03 AM
Guys, the bus already stops on main when it is one lane. The streetcar supposedly will have shorter stops than the bus due to more doors and nobody having to pay or swipe a bus pass.

In midtown i would imagine the streetcar would share the existing bus-only lane with the bus, right? Why wouldn't it?

Lot of engineering to figure out midtown but yeah that is an option.

Today we get to know the opening date of the downtown line! I'm predicting April 30
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 07:32:23 AM
Welp... Week too early on my guess.  May 6. First Friday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 08:52:52 AM
Welp... Week too early on my guess.  May 6. First Friday.
I'll be in Europe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 09:01:58 AM
Welp... Week too early on my guess.  May 6. First Friday.
I'll be in Europe
I'm so sorry for your loss, KCFDcat.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 09:02:46 AM
Welp... Week too early on my guess.  May 6. First Friday.
I'll be in Europe
I'm so sorry for your loss, KCFDcat.  :ROFL:
Haha! Sad times for me!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2016, 09:52:16 AM
Welp... Week too early on my guess.  May 6. First Friday.
I'll be in Europe


They have streetcars for days there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 10:08:36 AM
OMG this streetcar roadrage 360 video is awesome.. What a dork.
https://youtu.be/DpuBGNoOb9M
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 25, 2016, 10:17:15 AM
Reflecting back clams does have fair points and questions about what happens if their assumptions don't work, etc. I'd expect much more info to come out prior to any vote.

i've done this type of work for 15 years in the private sector and honestly, nothing will happen when/if their assumptions don't work. because no matter how much due diligence they put forth in trying to get their assumptions (cost/benefits/etc) correct, they won't be correct. it's just that hard to do.  the goal should be to get them as close as possible to avoid massive overruns. but is that the goal?  or is the goal to make it look good to get a yes vote?  when this thing is complete (and there's no doubt in my mind that it will be greenlighted) no one associated with the go forward decision will be around to be held to task and more importantly, the original promise of what was going to be delivered will long have been forgotten.

that's why i am so hung up on transparency in the process and vetting the numbers being used to sway public opinion.

"get elected, build something big as quick as you can, and name it for yourself"  I think that was the mayoral advice to the new incoming mayor in The Wire. 

James International Airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 10:22:50 AM
Truman international
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2016, 10:25:54 AM
That video says advantage: bus
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 10:55:37 AM
That disadvantage provides that comedy, I'm in! That guy had an important meeting at grinders to go to.. He couldn't be delayed!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2016, 11:04:40 AM


totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.

Someone with a downtown business is upset with another area of town receiving incentives? That's great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 11:08:01 AM


totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.

Someone with a downtown business is upset with another area of town receiving incentives? That's great.
Would love for you to detail the incentives I used to build and start my business.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 25, 2016, 11:09:03 AM
I mean, seriously, there have been a thousand public light rail/street car open houses over the past 10 years.  City council meetings are public and televised on KCPT.  There are countless streetcar studies and reports available.  here's one:   http://kcmo.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Kansas-City-Streetcar-Traffic-Technical-Report.pdf

Any google search will lead you to a dozen websites detailing every aspect of the streetcar plan from projections, to funding, to traffic issues.  For instance, this site http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9488 is a forum dedicated to nothing but KC development issues. 

I just don't understand the argument that the streetcar was some opaque, secretive project rammed through by City Officials in the middle of the night.   

 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 11:09:33 AM
And I wouldn't say I'm upset. More confused. The city is obviously pushing for downtown development, but then gives the largest incentive package ever to a suburban campus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 25, 2016, 11:09:40 AM
i went to the new Tom's Town Distillery in the crossroads last week and noticed the sales tax was all of about 1% (about 60 cents on a 50 dollar tab)? was that on purpose or a mistake?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2016, 11:11:53 AM
I mean, seriously, there have been a thousand public light rail/street car open houses over the past 10 years.  City council meetings are public and televised on KCPT.  There are countless streetcar studies and reports available.  here's one:   http://kcmo.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Kansas-City-Streetcar-Traffic-Technical-Report.pdf

Any google search will lead you to a dozen websites detailing every aspect of the streetcar plan from projections, to funding, to traffic issues.  For instance, this site http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9488 is a forum dedicated to nothing but KC development issues. 

I just don't understand the argument that the streetcar was some opaque, secretive project rammed through by City Officials in the middle of the night.   

 

as usual, wtf are you talking about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 25, 2016, 11:14:17 AM
i went to the new Tom's Town Distillery in the crossroads last week and noticed the sales tax was all of about 1% (about 60 cents on a 50 dollar tab)? was that on purpose or a mistake?

Did you get around 6 dollars of non-alcoholic items?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2016, 11:16:55 AM


totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.

Someone with a downtown business is upset with another area of town receiving incentives? That's great.
Would love for you to detail the incentives I used to build and start my business.
Do you not think your business benefits from downtown tax incentives, even if they don't directly impact your bottom line?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 11:18:30 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 11:26:05 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2016, 11:30:18 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.


Yeah I wonder if the incentives he opposes in a different part of the city might also spur other businesses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 25, 2016, 11:30:34 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.

temporary
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.


Yeah I wonder if the incentives he opposes in a different part of the city might also spur other businesses.
Maybe they will!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2016, 11:32:17 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.


Yeah I wonder if the incentives he opposes in a different part of the city might also spur other businesses.

i thought that was pretty hypocritical too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 11:32:33 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.

temporary
What's temporary?  Downtown development? tax incentives? Businesses wanting to be down here?  Maybe. I'll take that risk.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.


Yeah I wonder if the incentives he opposes in a different part of the city might also spur other businesses.

i thought that was pretty hypocritical too
Ha ok. Let's be friends clams. You seems like a really nice dude.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2016, 11:34:04 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

is your sales tax higher than the plaza?  i thought we were the highest in the city.  not sure where i could find that out but at one point the kc star said we were the highest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 11:34:48 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

is your sales tax higher than the plaza?  i thought we were the highest in the city.  not sure where i could find that out but at one point the kc star said we were the highest.
I thought I was. I pay 9.35% I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 11:36:50 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.


Yeah I wonder if the incentives he opposes in a different part of the city might also spur other businesses.

Nobody is arguing that. The comments were around the city better defining when and where to use incentives and how they should be tied to civic strategy. Downtown is the economic engine for KCMO and the region and is obviously a strategic goal.... Is SKC and Bannister mall?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2016, 11:37:45 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

is your sales tax higher than the plaza?  i thought we were the highest in the city.  not sure where i could find that out but at one point the kc star said we were the highest.
I thought I was. I pay 9.35% I could be wrong.

i could be on crack but i think we're somewhere north of 10% and have been for years.  it's the confluence of several smaller "tourist" taxes that hit this area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 11:39:06 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

is your sales tax higher than the plaza?  i thought we were the highest in the city.  not sure where i could find that out but at one point the kc star said we were the highest.
I thought I was. I pay 9.35% I could be wrong.

i could be on crack but i think we're somewhere north of 10% and have been for years.  it's the confluence of several smaller "tourist" taxes that hit this area.
Hm didn't know that!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

is your sales tax higher than the plaza?  i thought we were the highest in the city.  not sure where i could find that out but at one point the kc star said we were the highest.

KC chamber has this data on their site... You'd have to add in TDD like plaza parking garages and streetcar etc. Then hotels get another sales tax... To come up with the final number. I believe downtown and plaza are in a dead heat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
i remember i bought a 2'fer at the plaza mcdonalds a several years ago and paid over .20 in tax and was wtf'd

I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

is your sales tax higher than the plaza?  i thought we were the highest in the city.  not sure where i could find that out but at one point the kc star said we were the highest.

KC chamber has this data on their site... You'd have to add in TDD like plaza parking garages and streetcar etc. Then hotels get another sales tax... To come up with the final number. I believe downtown and plaza are in a dead heat.

this is what i'm talking about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.


Yeah I wonder if the incentives he opposes in a different part of the city might also spur other businesses.

Nobody is arguing that. The comments were around the city better defining when and where to use incentives and how they should be tied to civic strategy. Downtown is the economic engine for KCMO and the region and is obviously a strategic goal.... Is SKC and Bannister mall?

It's an interesting question - why should the economic engine for an entire region need incentives more than a dilapidated area inhabited primarily by minorities?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 25, 2016, 11:49:08 AM
i went to the new Tom's Town Distillery in the crossroads last week and noticed the sales tax was all of about 1% (about 60 cents on a 50 dollar tab)? was that on purpose or a mistake?

Did you get around 6 dollars of non-alcoholic items?

uh, yes, pretty much exactly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 11:51:33 AM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.


Yeah I wonder if the incentives he opposes in a different part of the city might also spur other businesses.

Nobody is arguing that. The comments were around the city better defining when and where to use incentives and how they should be tied to civic strategy. Downtown is the economic engine for KCMO and the region and is obviously a strategic goal.... Is SKC and Bannister mall?

It's an interesting question - why should the economic engine for an entire region need incentives more than a dilapidated area inhabited primarily by minorities?

Well both were neglected for decades... I'd argue both need incentives but I don't think a sprawling surface lot filled design was the way to help SKC.... But I do like the employment addition... So in general I've been neutral on that cerner thing.... Mostly just want a better design versus buildings awash in surface parking without transit... Which SKC and east residents could really use to get to those jobs... Of course cerner isn't concerned about that.

My overall point is our incentives need to be tied to strategy.... They aren't now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 25, 2016, 11:54:58 AM
I mean, seriously, there have been a thousand public light rail/street car open houses over the past 10 years.  City council meetings are public and televised on KCPT.  There are countless streetcar studies and reports available.  here's one:   http://kcmo.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Kansas-City-Streetcar-Traffic-Technical-Report.pdf

Any google search will lead you to a dozen websites detailing every aspect of the streetcar plan from projections, to funding, to traffic issues.  For instance, this site http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9488 is a forum dedicated to nothing but KC development issues. 

I just don't understand the argument that the streetcar was some opaque, secretive project rammed through by City Officials in the middle of the night.   

 

as usual, wtf are you talking about

"that's why i am so hung up on transparency in the process and vetting the numbers being used to sway public opinion."  -Pissclams

I thought you were hung up on the transparency in the process. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 11:56:14 AM
Sales tax breakdown (thanks data.kcmo.org)

State  4.225%
KCMO 2.875%
Prepared food addition 2%
Hotel room addition 7%
Streetcar TDD 1%
Plaza TDD. 5%


Unprepared food is less than general sales tax (8.35% vs 5.35% in Jackson co)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2016, 11:56:26 AM
He was talking about the airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 25, 2016, 11:59:26 AM
i went to the new Tom's Town Distillery in the crossroads last week and noticed the sales tax was all of about 1% (about 60 cents on a 50 dollar tab)? was that on purpose or a mistake?

Did you get around 6 dollars of non-alcoholic items?

uh, yes, pretty much exactly.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 25, 2016, 11:59:41 AM
He was talking about the airport

mistook it for StreetCar/Mid-town expansion project. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on February 25, 2016, 11:59:47 AM
May 6th is the first day of the street car. Will Kansas City survive this powderkeg? Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 25, 2016, 12:04:06 PM
barley bus tour on Saturday guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 12:10:37 PM
We need to compare downtown running routes wacky.
I go from my place (The Quaff) down Broadway to the river market and then I run over that running bridge and down the stairs to the river walk and run all the way down to Isle of Capri and back. Sometimes i'll mix it up and run a square. Down to the river market over to grand, down to Union Station and back up broadway.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
We need to compare downtown running routes wacky.
I go from my place (The Quaff) down Broadway to the river market and then I run over that running bridge and down the stairs to the river walk and run all the way down to Isle of Capri and back. Sometimes i'll mix it up and run a square. Down to the river market over to grand, down to Union Station and back up broadway.

I don't run as far normally and don't go the river market way much... I'd suggest using Wyandotte down 10th...Broadway sucks to run on I feel like... Sometimes I take it South to Dennys then cut over on 16th though.

Lot of the time I take off SW out of quality Hill over to the Westside.... Down summit to like 20th, over to main... South to union station (nice big ped area across the railroad tracks now on main)  then back up walnut or grand or oak... The wander back to quality Hill.  Highly recommend the Westside track.... Cool views, low  traffic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2016, 12:24:44 PM
We need to compare downtown running routes wacky.
I go from my place (The Quaff) down Broadway to the river market and then I run over that running bridge and down the stairs to the river walk and run all the way down to Isle of Capri and back. Sometimes i'll mix it up and run a square. Down to the river market over to grand, down to Union Station and back up broadway.

there's some good bike trails along your track
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 25, 2016, 12:25:55 PM
sounds like the same route dr j takes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 12:27:13 PM
@phil @clams Yup! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 12:28:09 PM
sounds like the same route dr j takes
You son of a bitch! :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 12:39:15 PM
I'll report some awesome Kc things after lunch from my runs that I've discovered. Teaser: bums banging... Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 25, 2016, 12:59:14 PM

I'll report some awesome Kc things after lunch from my runs that I've discovered. Teaser: bums banging... Stay tuned!

Finally something interesting ITT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 01:18:00 PM
OK, so this was last summer. I took a random Tuesday off to do some job prospecting and I thought, "what better way to start the day than a morning jog down by the river walk?". So it's about 9:45 AM, I had spent the morning hammering out a few emails and finally found a good stopping point. So I started my run down by the river walk across the running bridge, ran down the stairs, started pumping some Kanye and then I flew. Anyone who's run down there knows you run under a few bridges and by some nasty pond. Well, as I was approaching the nasty pond, I saw some type of tarp around the corner. I was like "hmmm..."I've never seen that before. I wonder what it is". Next thing you know.... BANG!!!! IT'S TWO MONGOLOIDS, ONE BARE ASSED AND THE OTHER BENT OVER DOGGY STYLE GOING AT IT. I mean for the love of god, I get that nobody is probably down there during the day on a random Tuesday, so they probably thought they were safe, but holy crap!. I kid you not, there was a half a 40 sitting there and mongoloids noticed me approaching. I turned down my music, because I wanted to see if they said anything. The next thing you know. I hear what sounds like a toothless witch cackling at me as I run by. It's the mongoloid that's bent over, staring at me and laughing. After that, I ran as fast as I could to get away. Wondering what I just saw? I'm texting ms. wacky and all my friends and no one would believe me. It was so bizarre. Imagine this cackling at you doggy style while getting it from behind and full of dirt.

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3kg4mB58v1r0livmo3_r1_500.gif)

 :angry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 25, 2016, 01:35:15 PM
barley bus tour on Saturday guys

Have fun!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on February 25, 2016, 01:41:36 PM
You sure know how to paint a vivid picture Wacky!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2016, 01:41:54 PM
Is there anything better than drinking beers outside? Look at the forecast for Saturday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 25, 2016, 01:47:04 PM
drinking beers outside while trying to conceive under a bridge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 25, 2016, 01:48:37 PM
Beer is disgusting d00ds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2016, 01:51:49 PM
Beer is disgusting d00ds

Maybe try drinking it while outside on Saturday?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 25, 2016, 02:07:27 PM
I know that I pay a higher sales tax and property tax rate than any other district in the city.
But, yes development around me is spurred by tax incentives. I get that. It's one of the reasons we are here.

Wow... Incentives on one thing spur other business. Weird

Mayor James did not pay for him to say that.

temporary
What's temporary?  Downtown development? tax incentives? Businesses wanting to be down here?  Maybe. I'll take that risk.

Multiple studies have demonstrated that as the incentives expire those business bounce to the next municipality offering a sweeter deal.  Therefore, the tax revenue they were planning on in the future never actually materializes to offset the tax revenue offset by the incentive.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on February 25, 2016, 02:11:07 PM
Outside beer is fine, but outside beer in Feb/march is maybe the best thing ever. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 02:12:29 PM
The incentives I'm referencing are changing surface lots to buildings that will be on property tax rolls well after incentives expire... Incentives moving jobs around are mostly worthless I'd agree....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 02:15:58 PM
You sure know how to paint a vivid picture Wacky!
It's the play-by-play guy in me.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 25, 2016, 03:28:48 PM

Multiple studies have demonstrated that as the incentives expire those business bounce to the next municipality offering a sweeter deal.  Therefore, the tax revenue they were planning on in the future never actually materializes to offset the tax revenue offset by the incentive.

Applebee's is a perfect example. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
I bet this happens a lot. KC street car related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpuBGNoOb9M&feature=youtu.be&t=123
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on February 25, 2016, 04:31:13 PM
I bet this happens a lot. Street car related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpuBGNoOb9M&feature=youtu.be&t=123

Lol.  Dick idiot human beings do happen a lot.  I like how he blew through the red light at the end.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 04:45:32 PM
That looked like Patrick Bateman freaking out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2016, 04:53:38 PM
I bet that guy voted against it. Are we going to get driving lessons on how to drive on the street car lane?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on February 25, 2016, 05:54:33 PM
I bet that guy voted against it. Are we going to get driving lessons on how to drive on the street car lane?
Hopefully they just run over the idiots that can't figure it out.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2016, 06:16:30 PM
I bet that guy voted against it. Are we going to get driving lessons on how to drive on the street car lane?

Just follow the law...its just a lane of traffic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 26, 2016, 07:55:30 PM
KCI is the worst. 745 not one place to grab a drink... "restaurant" closing up shop as we walk in. Any KCI defender can get bent right about now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 26, 2016, 08:30:23 PM
LOL places are closed because the place is dead, there's no business
Sly gonna force businesses to stay open in fantasyland?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 26, 2016, 08:32:58 PM
Maybe if everyone was in one terminal, but yeah probably not
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 26, 2016, 08:41:17 PM
You guys ignored the best story of all time a few pages back!

Via my phone, Ms. wacky telling me to tell you guys that story wasn't real. :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 26, 2016, 09:23:15 PM
Maybe if everyone was in one terminal, but yeah probably not
the 3 people in termy c wouldn't help
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 26, 2016, 09:28:30 PM
traffic would increase by 500%
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 26, 2016, 11:02:11 PM
LOL places are closed because the place is dead, there's no business
Sly gonna force businesses to stay open in fantasyland?

Its trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 26, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
There can't be many departing flights after 7:45, can there?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 26, 2016, 11:33:11 PM
If amenities were shared yes I think there are enough passengers to sustain one place to sell me a beer or water. Why does kc continue to put up with this trash?  Oh shucks, it's good enough.... Built 30 effing years ago and obsolete the day it opened. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 26, 2016, 11:37:07 PM
24 flights after 7pm today... Avg capacity 75 people? 1800 passengers... Yeah I bet some of them would buy a beer or coke or magazine.

Gross we have programmed ourselves to accept trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on February 27, 2016, 08:37:59 AM
It sounds like LA is more your speed, have you considered moving?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 27, 2016, 09:01:27 AM
KC all the way... LA has to be a pretty miserable life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2016, 09:22:02 AM
you guys want to hit westport tonight?
     nah man. 
ok, how about power and light? 
     nah man.
ok, how about the airport? 
     let's do this!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2016, 09:22:46 AM
If amenities were shared yes I think there are enough passengers to sustain one place to sell me a beer or water. Why does kc continue to put up with this trash?  Oh shucks, it's good enough.... Built 30 effing years ago and obsolete the day it opened. 

totally ignoring that he could have bought his crap inside security
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 27, 2016, 11:22:56 AM
Nope. Closed.

I don't even really consider amenities a top 5 reason to replace KCI but damn, airports in the jungle of Peru had better customer experience.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 27, 2016, 03:27:22 PM
Barley bus is great guys


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 27, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
Buncha Iowa state fans at double shift right now


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2016, 04:00:00 PM
Barley bus is great guys


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perfect day for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 27, 2016, 04:01:39 PM
No joke, would be a great party thing.  Talked to the guy about doing a full bus rental for a group


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Headinjun on February 27, 2016, 04:15:16 PM
you guys want to hit westport tonight?
     nah man. 
ok, how about power and light? 
     nah man.
ok, how about the airport? 
     let's do this!

I met a couple guys at O'hare that said they weren't there to catch a flight, but to pick up chicks at the Sheraton bar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 27, 2016, 04:50:33 PM
Buncha Iowa state fans at double shift right now


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Disappointing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on February 27, 2016, 04:54:09 PM
The rye was great


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on February 27, 2016, 06:45:28 PM
At Double Shift; KCFD: great beer, great spot.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 27, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
Thx guys!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 28, 2016, 02:19:12 PM
I was at double shift yesterday too! Talked to a ku fan who was doing the barley bus. He said he wanted to get back home to Gardner soon bc he didn't think 18th street was safe for white people after dark. That is an irl thing that happened
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 28, 2016, 04:37:21 PM
I was at double shift yesterday too! Talked to a ku fan who was doing the barley bus. He said he wanted to get back home to Gardner soon bc he didn't think 18th street was safe for white people after dark. That is an irl thing that happened
Woah. That for real blows my mind.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 28, 2016, 05:32:20 PM

I was at double shift yesterday too! Talked to a ku fan who was doing the barley bus. He said he wanted to get back home to Gardner soon bc he didn't think 18th street was safe for white people after dark. That is an irl thing that happened
Woah. That for real blows my mind.
You know, JoCo life man
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 01, 2016, 10:51:43 AM
Wow. Guess you never know what kind of people you have to serve when you own a drinking establishment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 01, 2016, 11:29:46 AM
It's like you dudes have never met a ku fan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 01, 2016, 11:31:48 AM
I was at double shift yesterday too! Talked to a ku fan who was doing the barley bus. He said he wanted to get back home to Gardner soon bc he didn't think 18th street was safe for white people after dark. That is an irl thing that happened

what was the age of this person
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 01, 2016, 11:36:01 AM
I went to DS on Saturday, chilled by the window, crushed a few tacos from the truck and downed several beers.  chatted up some babes too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2016, 11:37:52 AM
I was at double shift yesterday too! Talked to a ku fan who was doing the barley bus. He said he wanted to get back home to Gardner soon bc he didn't think 18th street was safe for white people after dark. That is an irl thing that happened

what was the age of this person

he appeared to be the age of a dad who has 20's age kid(s)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 01, 2016, 11:41:37 AM
I was at double shift yesterday too! Talked to a ku fan who was doing the barley bus. He said he wanted to get back home to Gardner soon bc he didn't think 18th street was safe for white people after dark. That is an irl thing that happened

what was the age of this person

he appeared to be the age of a dad who has 20's age kid(s)

was his phone clipped to his belt?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2016, 11:43:22 AM
I was at double shift yesterday too! Talked to a ku fan who was doing the barley bus. He said he wanted to get back home to Gardner soon bc he didn't think 18th street was safe for white people after dark. That is an irl thing that happened

what was the age of this person

he appeared to be the age of a dad who has 20's age kid(s)

was his phone clipped to his belt?

he was sitting at the bar so i couldn't see, but obviously i would bet my life on it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
was wearing something v similar to this

(http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_2022000/ff_2022151_full.jpg&w=245)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 01, 2016, 11:46:15 AM
my favorite part isn't that he thought 18th st was unsafe, its that he thought it was unsafe for white people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 01, 2016, 11:50:43 AM
possible we were there at same time.  Did the dork face'd ku fan have his computer with him at the bar?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2016, 12:03:22 PM
no but i did see that guy too iirc (was fairly pak'd when i got there)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SEK_EMAW on March 01, 2016, 03:33:50 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/31358004/kansas-city-streetcar-involved-in-crash-with-mercedes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on March 01, 2016, 04:51:01 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/31358004/kansas-city-streetcar-involved-in-crash-with-mercedes

(http://kctv.images.worldnow.com/images/10003958_G.jpg)

Lol.. learn how to park people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 01, 2016, 04:52:59 PM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2016, 04:53:08 PM
the idiot hit a parked car :lol:
i'm guessing they scraped the bottom of the barrel when they hired the toy train drivers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 01, 2016, 04:54:35 PM
going to be a gigantic cluster when multiple street cars are going to have to stop because of, or better yet hit parked cars, every single day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 01, 2016, 05:07:15 PM
Point buses
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 01, 2016, 05:10:05 PM
(http://www.streetcar.org/wp-content/uploads/sfmsr/uploads/photos/Muni%201811%20accident%20080312.JPG)

I just liked the image.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 01, 2016, 10:56:34 PM
Seems streetcar drivers shouldn't be being so generous on estimating what they can squeeze by if that car was truly stationary the whole time.... Seems weird it would hit the middle not the very front of the train.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2016, 11:05:34 PM
i was surprised too, guess that's what the months of testing are for.  how the driver hit a car so obviously out of its lane is very odd though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2016, 11:07:04 PM
the record bar is moving to the crossroads
http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/back-to-rockville/article63349622.html#storylink=fb_staff

i don't love the location but whatever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 01, 2016, 11:13:52 PM
i was surprised too, guess that's what the months of testing are for.  how the driver hit a car so obviously out of its lane is very odd though

Mercedes... Seems like a setup news story kind of like that roadrage guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 02, 2016, 07:33:13 AM
the record bar is moving to the crossroads
http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/back-to-rockville/article63349622.html#storylink=fb_staff

i don't love the location but whatever

Sounds like it's not quite permanent yet, just a "pop up". Maybe they'll find a better spot in the meantime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2016, 07:44:00 AM
FYI for those in midtown, a streetcar extension vote is being organized.  Get your neighbors together and spread the good word.  The vote will (most likely) be for a TDD along each side of Main Street up to 1/2 mile on either side of Main ending at UMKC.  For comparison, the TDD for the downtown line added around $250 to my property tax bill per year....I'd think they are aiming for a similar cost for residential homeowners in midtown. 

Good information here:
http://nextrailkc.com/main-street/


maybe they'll be smart and go change their proposal to go down gillham instead, that area could stand for some of the free development/money that the streetcar offers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 08:41:04 AM
They would love to hear neighbor input to routing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 02, 2016, 09:08:09 AM
the record bar is moving to the crossroads
http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/back-to-rockville/article63349622.html#storylink=fb_staff

i don't love the location but whatever

Sounds like it's not quite permanent yet, just a "pop up". Maybe they'll find a better spot in the meantime

It's not a super great location, but there are plenty of small venue music places (Tank Room, Green Lady) that are nearby. Adds to that area. But I wish it would still be near Westport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 02, 2016, 09:17:37 AM
So, what's the protocol on future shitty parked cars?  Shut it all down until Mr Mercedes moves his car, or wait until a tow truck arrives?  Seems like even the best case will delay these things a bunch.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 02, 2016, 09:18:12 AM
They had said that there was a white line showing where to keep clear of, but I don't see one in that photo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 02, 2016, 09:19:05 AM
I saw it in one earlier.  Still, ppl park over lines/too close to lines all the time.  What then?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2016, 09:22:11 AM
They had said that there was a white line showing where to keep clear of, but I don't see one in that photo.

Shot from the other side shows it pretty well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2016, 09:24:52 AM
I saw it in one earlier.  Still, ppl park over lines/too close to lines all the time.  What then?

the spaces that they have "built" are too narrow.
http://www.kctv5.com/clip/12255484/downtown-parking-problem-could-cost-drivers-more-than-they-think


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 09:35:18 AM
So, what's the protocol on future shitty parked cars?  Shut it all down until Mr Mercedes moves his car, or wait until a tow truck arrives?  Seems like even the best case will delay these things a bunch.

Tow quickly. The operators have been kind during testing to try and find the driver... But during revenue service towing will be much quicker.

Its dealt with very easily in other streetcar cities, this isn't a big deal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 02, 2016, 09:36:46 AM
They had said that there was a white line showing where to keep clear of, but I don't see one in that photo.

Shot from the other side shows it pretty well

I looked it up.   From the other side there IS a white line.    But it doesn't continue in the above shot.   You can see the dashed chalked line route in the above photo.   For some reason they didn't continue the line yet.    Mercedes driver is a dumbass for parking so stupid, streetcar driver is a dumbass for not stopping, and the City/contractor is at fault for not having proper markings in place.     
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 09:40:45 AM
I saw it in one earlier.  Still, ppl park over lines/too close to lines all the time.  What then?

the spaces that they have "built" are too narrow.
http://www.kctv5.com/clip/12255484/downtown-parking-problem-could-cost-drivers-more-than-they-think

Spots were shoehorned in some stretches to appease as many parties as possible. Many business owners along main didn't want to lose their street parking so the streetcar operators did all they could to not lose spaces... Just like if your car is too long for a space (Compact only, street spot not long enough for an f250 but long enough for a smart car) not every car will fit in every parking spot. There are more than enough parking spots downtown.

As an aside this parking spot width drama kctv5 is trying to drum up was not a problem in the Mercedes incident yesterday... Just a bad parker.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 09:44:21 AM
They had said that there was a white line showing where to keep clear of, but I don't see one in that photo.

Shot from the other side shows it pretty well

I looked it up.   From the other side there IS a white line.    But it doesn't continue in the above shot.   You can see the dashed chalked line route in the above photo.   For some reason they didn't continue the line yet.    Mercedes driver is a dumbass for parking so stupid, streetcar driver is a dumbass for not stopping, and the City/contractor is at fault for not having proper markings in place.     

The Mercedes was parked so badly it violated the street parking ordinance which says your car has to be parked within x distance of the curb... White line or not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 02, 2016, 10:06:26 AM
Why drive on Main street when Walnut and Grand are available?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2016, 10:10:29 AM
I saw it in one earlier.  Still, ppl park over lines/too close to lines all the time.  What then?

the spaces that they have "built" are too narrow.
http://www.kctv5.com/clip/12255484/downtown-parking-problem-could-cost-drivers-more-than-they-think

Spots were shoehorned in some stretches to appease as many parties as possible. Many business owners along main didn't want to lose their street parking so the streetcar operators did all they could to not lose spaces... Just like if your car is too long for a space (Compact only, street spot not long enough for an f250 but long enough for a smart car) not every car will fit in every parking spot. There are more than enough parking spots downtown.

As an aside this parking spot width drama kctv5 is trying to drum up was not a problem in the Mercedes incident yesterday... Just a bad parker.

do you have inside information about the mercedes incident that we don't know?

the guy who may or may have not parked within the lane may share blame here but the streetcar driver certainly needs to be better at his job too. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 02, 2016, 10:37:18 AM
How many parking tickets are issued annually along the streetcar routes?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 02, 2016, 10:42:49 AM
How many parking tickets are issued annually along the streetcar routes?

REVENUE GENERATOR!  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 10:55:09 AM
I saw it in one earlier.  Still, ppl park over lines/too close to lines all the time.  What then?

the spaces that they have "built" are too narrow.
http://www.kctv5.com/clip/12255484/downtown-parking-problem-could-cost-drivers-more-than-they-think

Spots were shoehorned in some stretches to appease as many parties as possible. Many business owners along main didn't want to lose their street parking so the streetcar operators did all they could to not lose spaces... Just like if your car is too long for a space (Compact only, street spot not long enough for an f250 but long enough for a smart car) not every car will fit in every parking spot. There are more than enough parking spots downtown.

As an aside this parking spot width drama kctv5 is trying to drum up was not a problem in the Mercedes incident yesterday... Just a bad parker.

do you have inside information about the mercedes incident that we don't know?

the guy who may or may have not parked within the lane may share blame here but the streetcar driver certainly needs to be better at his job too.

Just what I've picked up through media and twitter reports. I totally agree streetcar driver should be better and have stopped in this situation versus trying to squeeze by...posted that last night too.

Operator training is the biggest reason the cars are out right now... Guessing maybe Steve the streetcar driver learned a lot yesterday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 10:58:18 AM
How many parking tickets are issued annually along the streetcar routes?

Prior to streetcar or now with the white line? According to a star column, 19 tickets were issued in November and December. Ticket cost is 72 bucks.


As I said earlier they are trying to educate drivers now during testing and find them vs. Immediately ticketing and towing... Part of the testing phase as they know drivers have to get used to the streetcar too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2016, 11:11:53 AM
i read that they're trying to be lenient with bad parkers through this introductory stage, which flies in the face of guy mowing down new mercedes suv.   he should be fired.  if there's any question that the streetcar could edge the car, he needs to stop, call for car removal, and wait.  in this case, he didn't even clip the car, he hit the back of it.  inexcusable lack of judgement for someone tasked with driving however many tons of heavy equipment through major traffic fares of our city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWican on March 02, 2016, 11:54:28 AM
i read that they're trying to be lenient with bad parkers through this introductory stage, which flies in the face of guy mowing down new mercedes suv.   he should be fired.  if there's any question that the streetcar could edge the car, he needs to stop, call for car removal, and wait.  in this case, he didn't even clip the car, he hit the back of it.  inexcusable lack of judgement for someone tasked with driving however many tons of heavy equipment through major traffic fares of our city.

Was probably finishing up crushing a Busch Light
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 02, 2016, 12:01:11 PM
How many parking tickets are issued annually along the streetcar routes?

Prior to streetcar or now with the white line? According to a star column, 19 tickets were issued in November and December. Ticket cost is 72 bucks.


As I said earlier they are trying to educate drivers now during testing and find them vs. Immediately ticketing and towing... Part of the testing phase as they know drivers have to get used to the streetcar too.

Prior.  With this information we could see how big this issue potentially is. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 12:09:55 PM
i read that they're trying to be lenient with bad parkers through this introductory stage, which flies in the face of guy mowing down new mercedes suv.   he should be fired.  if there's any question that the streetcar could edge the car, he needs to stop, call for car removal, and wait.  in this case, he didn't even clip the car, he hit the back of it.  inexcusable lack of judgement for someone tasked with driving however many tons of heavy equipment through major traffic fares of our city.

I don't disagree.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 12:11:28 PM
How many parking tickets are issued annually along the streetcar routes?

Prior to streetcar or now with the white line? According to a star column, 19 tickets were issued in November and December. Ticket cost is 72 bucks.


As I said earlier they are trying to educate drivers now during testing and find them vs. Immediately ticketing and towing... Part of the testing phase as they know drivers have to get used to the streetcar too.

Prior.  With this information we could see how big this issue potentially is.

I doubt s ticket was ever written for being too far away from the curb due to lack of focusing on that as a problem. .... Guessing any parking tickets on main were parking too long.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 02, 2016, 12:43:00 PM
if only there were a form of public transportation that had the freedom to move from lane to lane if there was an obstruction.  oh well.  that's a pipedream.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 02, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
apologies if already posted, but traders on grand is being converted into 203 apartments.  $69mil.  real ugly building in great location. 
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/26/kc-conversion-block-sunflower-traders-on-grand.html

this development, coupled with 1Light (300 units), 2Light (300 units), and P&L (260 units) - all to be opened within 2-3 years of one another is really pretty impressive. 



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on March 02, 2016, 01:19:07 PM
apologies if already posted, but traders on grand is being converted into 203 apartments.  $69mil.  real ugly building in great location. 
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/26/kc-conversion-block-sunflower-traders-on-grand.html

this development, coupled with 1Light (300 units), 2Light (300 units), and P&L (260 units) - all to be opened within 2-3 years of one another is really pretty impressive.

There's another project in the very initial stages that will be similar if not bigger than all those in that area.   :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 01:39:29 PM
if only there were a form of public transportation that had the freedom to move from lane to lane if there was an obstruction.  oh well.  that's a pipedream.

We still have buses. Cars seem like the common problem here... Maybe eliminate them instead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2016, 01:46:48 PM
apologies if already posted, but traders on grand is being converted into 203 apartments.  $69mil.  real ugly building in great location. 
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/26/kc-conversion-block-sunflower-traders-on-grand.html

this development, coupled with 1Light (300 units), 2Light (300 units), and P&L (260 units) - all to be opened within 2-3 years of one another is really pretty impressive.

There's another project in the very initial stages that will be similar if not bigger than all those in that area.   :peek:

good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2016, 01:48:12 PM
That's real talk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 01:54:49 PM
Multifamily ownership is also being held back by developers not being able to get financing to build new ones.  That's partially why it's all apartments being announced...that and the huge short term demand for rentals right now from those who can't or don't want to own any longer (baby boomers, etc)

Crossroads Academy is expanding to a 2nd elementary as well as a new high school... and is the best rated charter in the state of Missouri... Still a long way from a great situation but improving with their entrance into downtown as well as KCSD getting back to full accreditation.

Downtown will always have a lot of transient residents but as an owner downtown I'd love to see more buildings with owners vs renters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on March 02, 2016, 01:58:29 PM
apologies if already posted, but traders on grand is being converted into 203 apartments.  $69mil.  real ugly building in great location. 
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/26/kc-conversion-block-sunflower-traders-on-grand.html

this development, coupled with 1Light (300 units), 2Light (300 units), and P&L (260 units) - all to be opened within 2-3 years of one another is really pretty impressive.

There's another project in the very initial stages that will be similar if not bigger than all those in that area.   :peek:

good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

I agree.  Schools are a big issue whether people will stay down there long term (ie Wacky)

And the project I'm talking about isn't apartments and should bring a good amount of jobs/development if it gets the green light.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 02, 2016, 01:59:58 PM
apologies if already posted, but traders on grand is being converted into 203 apartments.  $69mil.  real ugly building in great location. 
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/26/kc-conversion-block-sunflower-traders-on-grand.html

this development, coupled with 1Light (300 units), 2Light (300 units), and P&L (260 units) - all to be opened within 2-3 years of one another is really pretty impressive.

There's another project in the very initial stages that will be similar if not bigger than all those in that area.   :peek:

good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

I agree.  Schools are a big issue whether people will stay down there long term (ie Wacky)

And the project I'm talking about isn't apartments and should bring a good amount of jobs/development if it gets the green light.

is it a Hyatt?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on March 02, 2016, 02:02:27 PM
apologies if already posted, but traders on grand is being converted into 203 apartments.  $69mil.  real ugly building in great location. 
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/02/26/kc-conversion-block-sunflower-traders-on-grand.html

this development, coupled with 1Light (300 units), 2Light (300 units), and P&L (260 units) - all to be opened within 2-3 years of one another is really pretty impressive.

There's another project in the very initial stages that will be similar if not bigger than all those in that area.   :peek:

good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

I agree.  Schools are a big issue whether people will stay down there long term (ie Wacky)

And the project I'm talking about isn't apartments and should bring a good amount of jobs/development if it gets the green light.

is it a Hyatt?

No.  Don't have all the details but it's very beginning stages to the point that they just recently decided KC over other possible locations.  Could still fall through but looks promising.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2016, 02:09:05 PM
i think dub is talking about the oakland raiders
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 02, 2016, 04:18:58 PM
good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

all true.  school district is huge prob for KC, in general.  But, with respect to just the downtown core, I doubt a Midwestern city like KC will ever have a huge family demographic given the abundance of cheap real estate and highway access.  just seems like condo and apartment living isn't going to work for most families even if the public schools were excellent.

 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 02, 2016, 04:20:55 PM
Do any cities really have a big family demographic?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2016, 04:22:11 PM
Downtown Topeka sucks, I can tell you that rusty
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 02, 2016, 04:25:09 PM
Do any cities really have a big family demographic?

Probably not.  outside of maybe NYC, SanFran, Boston, and a handful of other uberdense downtown areas.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2016, 04:49:27 PM
Do any cities really have a big family demographic?

maybe? not sure the point.  bigger (growing) cities have more young/single/married no kids people to put in their urban core.  with a stagnant population, where are the people that are supposed to be flocking to these downtown apartments coming from?  dumping their kick ass olathe apartments?  i don't know.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on March 02, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
Also, might be just my perception but it seems people in KC (Midwest?) have kids a lot younger than other cities on the west and east coasts.  There are a lot of people in big downtown areas that decide not to have kids or wait till they are 35+ which I don't think is as common in KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 02, 2016, 04:55:18 PM
KC has way more kids than SF, and a few more than NYC. Maybe we're thinking of white kids?

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/2938000,0667000,3651000

Do any cities really have a big family demographic?

maybe? not sure the point.  bigger (growing) cities have more young/single/married no kids people to put in their urban core.  with a stagnant population, where are the people that are supposed to be flocking to these downtown apartments coming from?  dumping their kick ass olathe apartments?  i don't know.

My point is families owning homes and sending kids to public school doesn't seem to have much bearing on how healthy an urban area is. These apartments seem like a good thing even if the tenants will be some what transient.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 02, 2016, 04:58:01 PM
good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

all true.  school district is huge prob for KC, in general.  But, with respect to just the downtown core, I doubt a Midwestern city like KC will ever have a huge family demographic given the abundance of cheap real estate and highway access.  just seems like condo and apartment living isn't going to work for most families even if the public schools were excellent.

 

There are real, honest to goodness, houses in Kansas City Missouri. I own one. We're considering selling but I really want to stay in KCMO proper and buy another house in the area I live in now. My son goes to a public KCMO neighborhood school and we're trying to invest in it, with our time and with our children. The district can turn around, it takes commitment and ownership like 'clams said from families.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 02, 2016, 05:05:05 PM
Do any cities really have a big family demographic?

maybe? not sure the point.  bigger (growing) cities have more young/single/married no kids people to put in their urban core.  with a stagnant population, where are the people that are supposed to be flocking to these downtown apartments coming from?  dumping their kick ass olathe apartments?  i don't know.

I distinguish between downtown and urban core.  I view downtown as essentially rivermarket to crossroads.  I view the urban core as midtown.  anything between downtown and plaza.  if KC's public schools were strong, I think the urban core would thrive due to the mass of single family homes.  downtown, tho, not so much. 

anyway - the City's goal has been to increase downtown residential to 40,000.  At that number, I think downtown would be plenty vibrant and sustainable. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on March 02, 2016, 05:41:37 PM
What is your southern boundary for midtown, Brush Creek? 

What is the downtown number now?

I have often wondered if splitting up KCMO in to smaller districts might be the solution to college educated families not sticking around KCMO.   Reopening SW High School for just the white areas between State Line and Troost is obviously a racial/socioeconomic pr nightmare but it might help gentrify the next few neighborhoods over as people are priced out of the SW district. 
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 02, 2016, 06:28:44 PM
Do any cities really have a big family demographic?

The ones that do don't send their kids to public school. At least the "gentrification" owners referenced earlier.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2016, 08:51:01 PM
good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

all true.  school district is huge prob for KC, in general.  But, with respect to just the downtown core, I doubt a Midwestern city like KC will ever have a huge family demographic given the abundance of cheap real estate and highway access.  just seems like condo and apartment living isn't going to work for most families even if the public schools were excellent.

 

There are real, honest to goodness, houses in Kansas City Missouri. I own one. We're considering selling but I really want to stay in KCMO proper and buy another house in the area I live in now. My son goes to a public KCMO neighborhood school and we're trying to invest in it, with our time and with our children. The district can turn around, it takes commitment and ownership like 'clams said from families.

Totally correct...and that's awesome. I've not been blessed with children and don't know the schools intimately but been told the real problem is the HS vs elementary school.

I don't see downtown kc or any other middle sized American city to ever being an urban family oasis but it would be nice for the urban core to be serviceable for kids/families.... We are seeing a lot of new people coming in from larger cities from around of the country that we haven't seen as much of before... Our typical immigrants have historically been small towns from around kc.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on March 02, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
IDEA:  house swaps between young people in Brookside and older people in Prairie Village, for example.


The young couple with the hip house with a small yard, fewer living rooms, bad schools swaps with the older couple whose kids have gone off to college and now have a big empty house and yard they don't want to maintain.  Then the young couple has kids and the older couple walks to the coffee shop everyday.

Problem solved.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on March 02, 2016, 08:55:10 PM
holy crap Pete that could actually work
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on March 02, 2016, 08:55:36 PM
I have a friend who relocated to midtown from the burbs years ago and now has a family there. A lot of KC is years and years away from being nice for families who aren't originally from the urban core. The charter schools are a mixed bag, but many have done very well the last few years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2016, 07:34:07 AM
good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

all true.  school district is huge prob for KC, in general.  But, with respect to just the downtown core, I doubt a Midwestern city like KC will ever have a huge family demographic given the abundance of cheap real estate and highway access.  just seems like condo and apartment living isn't going to work for most families even if the public schools were excellent.

 

There are real, honest to goodness, houses in Kansas City Missouri. I own one. We're considering selling but I really want to stay in KCMO proper and buy another house in the area I live in now. My son goes to a public KCMO neighborhood school and we're trying to invest in it, with our time and with our children. The district can turn around, it takes commitment and ownership like 'clams said from families.

Is it a nice house? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on March 03, 2016, 09:10:55 AM
You know what helps urban areas?  Light rail that sprawls to the outer parts of the city.  High speed light rail that families can take downtown, spend the day traveling up and down the city using the streetcar and helping the economic development down there along with taking away property taxes by countering with fares.  Keeps the younger core down there and families can still be a part of the development.

Guarantee families from PV, etc. would take a 15-20 min LR downtown and not buses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 03, 2016, 09:33:51 AM
You know what helps urban areas?  Light rail that sprawls to the outer parts of the city.  High speed light rail that families can take downtown, spend the day traveling up and down the city using the streetcar and helping the economic development down there along with taking away property taxes by countering with fares.  Keeps the younger core down there and families can still be a part of the development.

Guarantee families from PV, etc. would take a 15-20 min LR downtown and not buses.
If you're going down with your family, wouldn't you just drive?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2016, 09:42:34 AM
good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

all true.  school district is huge prob for KC, in general.  But, with respect to just the downtown core, I doubt a Midwestern city like KC will ever have a huge family demographic given the abundance of cheap real estate and highway access.  just seems like condo and apartment living isn't going to work for most families even if the public schools were excellent.

 

There are real, honest to goodness, houses in Kansas City Missouri. I own one. We're considering selling but I really want to stay in KCMO proper and buy another house in the area I live in now. My son goes to a public KCMO neighborhood school and we're trying to invest in it, with our time and with our children. The district can turn around, it takes commitment and ownership like 'clams said from families.

Is it a nice house?

yes but its almost 90 years old so it has issues from time to time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 10:16:57 AM
I saw it in one earlier.  Still, ppl park over lines/too close to lines all the time.  What then?

the spaces that they have "built" are too narrow.
http://www.kctv5.com/clip/12255484/downtown-parking-problem-could-cost-drivers-more-than-they-think




:lol:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/31369052/parking-along-kc-streetcar-route-doesnt-meet-city-ordinance?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

i realize that the supporters will ignore the ordinance (like sly has, and commands others to) :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on March 03, 2016, 10:20:21 AM
Downtown Topeka sucks, I can tell you that rusty

Remember that Italian restaurant that used to be downtown on Kansas Ave?  It was called Grazi's or something like that, it had a nice atmosphere.  I wonder whatever happened to that place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2016, 10:22:21 AM
good news on both projects.  i'm interested to see if this gentrification era in KC is a passing fad or if people/businesses will actually leave joco.
population and job forecasts say that KC will struggle to grow on either front.   given those studies, until KCMO fixes their schools, living in KCMO will continue to be a short term gap between getting out of college and starting a family.

apartments are great for the short term but a transient population will hold the area back.  to succeed long-term, KCMO proper needs people who have ownership in the area in which they live.

all true.  school district is huge prob for KC, in general.  But, with respect to just the downtown core, I doubt a Midwestern city like KC will ever have a huge family demographic given the abundance of cheap real estate and highway access.  just seems like condo and apartment living isn't going to work for most families even if the public schools were excellent.

 

There are real, honest to goodness, houses in Kansas City Missouri. I own one. We're considering selling but I really want to stay in KCMO proper and buy another house in the area I live in now. My son goes to a public KCMO neighborhood school and we're trying to invest in it, with our time and with our children. The district can turn around, it takes commitment and ownership like 'clams said from families.

Is it a nice house?

yes but its almost 90 years old so it has issues from time to time

Well that's cool then.  It seems (to me) there aren't many homes in that $250-$350k range in KCMO.  Lots below and then the other are ridiculously expensive.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 03, 2016, 10:33:27 AM
:lol:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/31369052/parking-along-kc-streetcar-route-doesnt-meet-city-ordinance?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

i realize that the supporters will ignore the ordinance (like sly has, and commands others to) :lol:

I don't know anything about Sly commanding folks to ignore the ordinance, but that is a problem.  problem for downtown businesses and also for codes enforcement. 

I wonder how many of the parking spots along main are non-compliant?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 03, 2016, 10:36:00 AM
A house has to be $250-$350k to be nice?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 10:37:06 AM
I saw it in one earlier.  Still, ppl park over lines/too close to lines all the time.  What then?

the spaces that they have "built" are too narrow.
http://www.kctv5.com/clip/12255484/downtown-parking-problem-could-cost-drivers-more-than-they-think




:lol:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/31369052/parking-along-kc-streetcar-route-doesnt-meet-city-ordinance?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

i realize that the supporters will ignore the ordinance (like sly has, and commands others to) :lol:

Its an interesting discussion. First off the ordinance they reference doesn't apply to on street parking. It specifically says that in the beginning of the ordinance (sec 52 for those interested) but this investigative reporter missed that for the shock value.

The interesting discussion comes in with business owners along the line. These spots were shoehorned into widths not generally recommended by street standards here and in other cities... Denver and boston for example list minimum width standard at 7 foot for on street parking lanes.

Main Street business owners begged the streetcar to save their parking... So they did... Does that mean an f250 can't fit in some spots? Sure... But other car can and do daily... Even suvs.  So now some of these owners are complaining that customers are mad they can fit...

So is it better to just remove these skinny parking spots and repurpose them to say bike parking or bike lanes? Maybe wider sidewalks? I don't know honestly. It's not like downtown lacks in parking so I don't see the true need to save every single street parking space no matter the width... But these business owners did and the streetcar authority met their requests. I guess it's best to ask them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 10:38:20 AM
:lol:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/31369052/parking-along-kc-streetcar-route-doesnt-meet-city-ordinance?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

i realize that the supporters will ignore the ordinance (like sly has, and commands others to) :lol:

I don't know anything about Sly commanding folks to ignore the ordinance, but that is a problem.  problem for downtown businesses and also for codes enforcement. 

I wonder how many of the parking spots along main are non-compliant?

i would think they can cut out the sidewalk to make additional room in spots.  i have seen more and more businesses complaining about the lack of parking around their businesses.  we're this far into the project and it's just as ok for the city to learn about the streetcar as it is the residents who they're trying to teach.  they can get it right, they just need to admit to mistakes like this and fix them in the best way possible. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2016, 10:40:17 AM
yeah my house is not worth $250k, but I still like it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 10:41:33 AM
It's not like downtown lacks in parking so I don't see the true need to save every single street parking space no matter the width... But these business owners did and the streetcar authority met their requests.

Some of the spots are too narrow for a Fiat.  They're unusable in their current state. The city did not save any spots if the spots they supposedly saved can't fit a car in them.  Failure, it's ok to admit it. 

I guess it's best to ask them.
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 10:41:51 AM
:lol:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/31369052/parking-along-kc-streetcar-route-doesnt-meet-city-ordinance?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

i realize that the supporters will ignore the ordinance (like sly has, and commands others to) :lol:

I don't know anything about Sly commanding folks to ignore the ordinance, but that is a problem.  problem for downtown businesses and also for codes enforcement. 

I wonder how many of the parking spots along main are non-compliant?

i would think they can cut out the sidewalk to make additional room in spots.  i have seen more and more businesses complaining about the lack of parking around their businesses.  we're this far into the project and it's just as ok for the city to learn about the streetcar as it is the residents who they're trying to teach.  they can get it right, they just need to admit to mistakes like this and fix them in the best way possible.

Sidewalks are already to skinny in many areas to the point of ADA compliance, this isn't an option.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 10:44:47 AM
It's not like downtown lacks in parking so I don't see the true need to save every single street parking space no matter the width... But these business owners did and the streetcar authority met their requests.

Some of the spots are too narrow for a Fiat.  They're unusable in their current state. The city did not save any spots if the spots they supposedly saved can't fit a car in them.  Failure, it's ok to admit it. 

I guess it's best to ask them.
lol

Its okay you ignored that the ordinance doesn't apply... It doesn't fit your anti-sly agenda.

Let's not forget these skinny spots aren't throughout the line.. They are a couple sections (in front of Nara and in front of cascones) . I'm totally in agreement those should be repurposed and not parking spots.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 10:45:18 AM
there are a shitload of cool homes between union hill, hyde and gillham park areas and main street, not sure how much they cost though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dub on March 03, 2016, 10:45:25 AM
You know what helps urban areas?  Light rail that sprawls to the outer parts of the city.  High speed light rail that families can take downtown, spend the day traveling up and down the city using the streetcar and helping the economic development down there along with taking away property taxes by countering with fares.  Keeps the younger core down there and families can still be a part of the development.

Guarantee families from PV, etc. would take a 15-20 min LR downtown and not buses.
If you're going down with your family, wouldn't you just drive?

Families here take the LR a lot.  Can relax, not fight traffic/parking/parking meters and garage fees.  Can jump around to different areas of town.  Insane usage for sporting events downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 10:47:02 AM
:lol:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/31369052/parking-along-kc-streetcar-route-doesnt-meet-city-ordinance?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

i realize that the supporters will ignore the ordinance (like sly has, and commands others to) :lol:

I don't know anything about Sly commanding folks to ignore the ordinance, but that is a problem.  problem for downtown businesses and also for codes enforcement. 

I wonder how many of the parking spots along main are non-compliant?

i would think they can cut out the sidewalk to make additional room in spots.  i have seen more and more businesses complaining about the lack of parking around their businesses.  we're this far into the project and it's just as ok for the city to learn about the streetcar as it is the residents who they're trying to teach.  they can get it right, they just need to admit to mistakes like this and fix them in the best way possible.

Sidewalks are already to skinny in many areas to the point of ADA compliance, this isn't an option.

i guess we're stuck with the saved spots that aren't spots then.  suck it small business owners! 
the pro-sly contingent should go tell these idiot business owners that their losses will be offset by the streetcar, they just need MORE patience.  the dollars are coming.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 03, 2016, 10:48:40 AM
Emo: "wow nice home, what's it worth?"
friend: "about $180,000"
Emo: "gross"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 10:50:48 AM
Bike parking could bring a lot more people to their door in the same space as one car. There is parking on sidestreets of main...he'll almost every business on this line has their own off street parking...

These spots aren't working... Sounds like businesses would rather them gone than having some customer cars not fit... Test and adjust is all part of the process.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 03, 2016, 10:56:49 AM
The City needs to incentivize business growth downtown and reward business that are already here.  this includes parking.  we live in an auto-centric city.  period.  eliminating street parking was never part of the plan and it shouldn't be.  a lot of these businesses depend upon quick in-and-out customers that don't have the time or patience to park in a garage around the corner.  if the streetcar has eliminated spots, the City needs to figure out a solution.     
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 03, 2016, 10:58:04 AM
Car elevators
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 10:58:47 AM
the big issue with the "there's plenty of downtown parking available" statement is that the only people that parrot it are people who live downtown.
there's a shitload of empty lots though.  i wonder if this one is open/safe to park in?  who knows, should we risk the $300 tow bill? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 10:59:35 AM
The City needs to incentivize business growth downtown and reward business that are already here.  this includes parking.  we live in an auto-centric city.  period.  eliminating street parking was never part of the plan and it shouldn't be.  a lot of these businesses depend upon quick in-and-out customers that don't have the time or patience to park in a garage around the corner.  if the streetcar has eliminated spots, the City needs to figure out a solution.     

Downtown has so many parking spots it's sickning. You are making broad statements with no details behind it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 11:00:12 AM
the big issue with the "there's plenty of downtown parking available" statement is that the only people that parrot it are people who live downtown.
there's a shitload of empty lots though.  i wonder if this one is open/safe to park in?  who knows, should we risk the $300 tow bill? 

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 11:01:37 AM
the big issue with the "there's plenty of downtown parking available" statement is that the only people that parrot it are people who live downtown.
there's a shitload of empty lots though.  i wonder if this one is open/safe to park in?  who knows, should we risk the $300 tow bill?

I totally agree some surface lots should be more clear about their ability for the public to use.... But there is a ton of street parking AND well marked surface lots and parking garages.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 11:04:40 AM
Lol at townies actually buying into a shock kctv5 piece at face value about parking downtown... Nevermind you walk further to get to target or Kauffman or the grocery store than you will parking for Gallup map or antons... But freak out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 03, 2016, 11:05:49 AM

Downtown has so many parking spots it's sickning. You are making broad statements with no details behind it.

I'm differentiating between street parking and surface lots.  I agree the amount of surface parking is sickening, but these are separate issues.  obviously, we should continue replacing lots with development and increase density.  Of course, by doing so, it increases the importance of street parking ten-fold.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 03, 2016, 11:09:14 AM
Lol at townies actually buying into a shock kctv5 piece at face value about parking downtown... Nevermind you walk further to get to target or Kauffman or the grocery store than you will parking for Gallup map or antons... But freak out.

to me, the big takeaway, is not what customers are complaining about, but what businessowners are complaining about.  If a businessowner says streetparking in front of his business is important to him, who are we to question it?  I'm not saying it's some huge issue, but if a guy doesn't want to lose the parking in front of his shop, let's make sure he doesn't lose the parking in front of his shop. 

like you've said, we're not talking about very many spots here.  the vast majority of the Main St. corridor is perfectly fine.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 11:09:41 AM

Downtown has so many parking spots it's sickning. You are making broad statements with no details behind it.

I'm differentiating between street parking and surface lots.  I agree the amount of surface parking is sickening, but these are separate issues.  obviously, we should continue replacing lots with development and increase density.  Of course, by doing so, it increases the importance of street parking ten-fold.   

Street parking downtown is also sickening in its inventory. I can walk downtown at any time you'd like during the busiest time and find you a street spot within blocks.

You mentioned quick in and out parking... That has also improved downtown with shorter timeframe on many street spots within the past year
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 11:12:09 AM
Lol at townies actually buying into a shock kctv5 piece at face value about parking downtown... Nevermind you walk further to get to target or Kauffman or the grocery store than you will parking for Gallup map or antons... But freak out.

to me, the big takeaway, is not what customers are complaining about, but what businessowners are complaining about.  If a businessowner says streetparking in front of his business is important to him, who are we to question it?  I'm not saying it's some huge issue, but if a guy doesn't want to lose the parking in front of his shop, let's make sure he doesn't lose the parking in front of his shop. 

like you've said, we're not talking about very many spots here.  the vast majority of the Main St. corridor is perfectly fine.   

I'm perfectly fine with that and doing everything possible. ... I do question that parking on a side street isn't a valid option.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 03, 2016, 11:17:39 AM

I'm perfectly fine with that and doing everything possible. ... I do question that parking on a side street isn't a valid option.

It is certainly a valid option.  the better option, though, is storefront parking - which is what the store owner would prefer.  we should maximize this to the best of our ability.  it's reasonable.   

 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
A house has to be $250-$350k to be nice?

No, and I didn't say that, either. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 11:28:47 AM

I'm perfectly fine with that and doing everything possible. ... I do question that parking on a side street isn't a valid option.

It is certainly a valid option.  the better option, though, is storefront parking - which is what the store owner would prefer.  we should maximize this to the best of our ability.  it's reasonable.   

 

Agreed. That was the goal but some of these spots don't seem to be working.... Losing sidewalk is not an option... Bike parking would out a lot of people at their door front...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2016, 11:30:16 AM
A house has to be $250-$350k to be nice?

No, and I didn't say that, either.

But it helps! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
i read this awhile back and thought it was interesting-

Quote
KCMO issues downtown parking survey (& why the results likely won't highlight the solution)
Yesterday, the City of Kansas City issued an online survey to get people's opinions on parking downtown.

The questions are typical:

Do you live downtown?

Work downtown?

Is parking hard to find?

Do you have a dedicated parking space?

Do you look for on-street parking or park in a garage?

How far from your destination is too far away to park?

Etc.

No matter how the survey comes back, I can't think of a single way that the city will recognize from the survey what one of the biggest problems with downtown parking is in this city.

First of all, I don't think there is a major problem with parking downtown for 90% of people, uses and destinations -- unless you're used to pulling up to a strip mall and parking right out front of your destination for free. But compared to most cities, Kansas City Parking is cake.  And cheap.

But if there is a problem, the problem isn't lack of parking spaces.

It's lack of access to those spaces.

Because of the city policy for the past 5 decades that has mandated a certain number of parking spots for downtown businesses, far too many parking spots have become single use lots. A business owns and maintains the lot, but those spaces can only be used by those businesses -- even if the business is not open.

Let's take the surface lot at 19th and McGee that encompasses the entire city block for an example. The lot is, I believe, owned by Children's Mercy Hospital.  They then drive shuttle buses from the lot to the hospital and back every day. At night, when the majority of their staff goes home, the entire city block of parking is chained off and not accessible. On a typical First Friday, there is a struggle for people to find parking spaces at the Crossroads -- and yet, this entire block of open parking spaces sits completely empty.

This same scenario plays out with various lots throughout downtown -- where a restaurant that relies almost solely on foot traffic during the day has empty spots, but then has a shortage of parking in the evening when people drive to their location -- and yet, the empty business lots around them are sitting empty. The Star has several lots exactly like this.

In many ways, Kansas City's parking space mandates have CREATED a parking shortage downtown. In other cities, it has become financially viable for a private person to own parking garages that cater to business workers during the day, but are easily accessible for events/restaurants/night life at night. They're mixed use garages.  We have very few of those in Kansas City (there is one on the 1700 block of Main between the old TWA building and the old Retro Inferno building - -so there are some) because of the city's parking laws.

It's my hope that the city actualy takes a deep dive into the city's downtown parking situation -- and doesn't just look at a survey to conclude that "Parking is fine" or "We need more parking".

The answer isn't that cut and dried. We need more mixed use parking spaces -- that have uses both in the day and then different uses in the evening. We don't necessarily need MORE parking -- just more and better access on more occassions.

it's from 2011, not sure if the same rules still apply but i would guess that they do.
http://btoellner.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/07/kcmo-issues-downtown-parking-survey-why-the-results-likely-wont-highlight-the-solution.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 03, 2016, 11:45:16 AM
there are a shitload of cool homes between union hill, hyde and gillham park areas and main street, not sure how much they cost though.

my old house in South Hyde Park just sold again for like $113k. It was a sweet house.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2016, 11:46:37 AM
ya i remember it, i like that neighborhood
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 12:07:13 PM
i read this awhile back and thought it was interesting-

Quote
KCMO issues downtown parking survey (& why the results likely won't highlight the solution)
Yesterday, the City of Kansas City issued an online survey to get people's opinions on parking downtown.

The questions are typical:

Do you live downtown?

Work downtown?

Is parking hard to find?

Do you have a dedicated parking space?

Do you look for on-street parking or park in a garage?

How far from your destination is too far away to park?

Etc.

No matter how the survey comes back, I can't think of a single way that the city will recognize from the survey what one of the biggest problems with downtown parking is in this city.

First of all, I don't think there is a major problem with parking downtown for 90% of people, uses and destinations -- unless you're used to pulling up to a strip mall and parking right out front of your destination for free. But compared to most cities, Kansas City Parking is cake.  And cheap.

But if there is a problem, the problem isn't lack of parking spaces.

It's lack of access to those spaces.

Because of the city policy for the past 5 decades that has mandated a certain number of parking spots for downtown businesses, far too many parking spots have become single use lots. A business owns and maintains the lot, but those spaces can only be used by those businesses -- even if the business is not open.

Let's take the surface lot at 19th and McGee that encompasses the entire city block for an example. The lot is, I believe, owned by Children's Mercy Hospital.  They then drive shuttle buses from the lot to the hospital and back every day. At night, when the majority of their staff goes home, the entire city block of parking is chained off and not accessible. On a typical First Friday, there is a struggle for people to find parking spaces at the Crossroads -- and yet, this entire block of open parking spaces sits completely empty.

This same scenario plays out with various lots throughout downtown -- where a restaurant that relies almost solely on foot traffic during the day has empty spots, but then has a shortage of parking in the evening when people drive to their location -- and yet, the empty business lots around them are sitting empty. The Star has several lots exactly like this.

In many ways, Kansas City's parking space mandates have CREATED a parking shortage downtown. In other cities, it has become financially viable for a private person to own parking garages that cater to business workers during the day, but are easily accessible for events/restaurants/night life at night. They're mixed use garages.  We have very few of those in Kansas City (there is one on the 1700 block of Main between the old TWA building and the old Retro Inferno building - -so there are some) because of the city's parking laws.

It's my hope that the city actualy takes a deep dive into the city's downtown parking situation -- and doesn't just look at a survey to conclude that "Parking is fine" or "We need more parking".

The answer isn't that cut and dried. We need more mixed use parking spaces -- that have uses both in the day and then different uses in the evening. We don't necessarily need MORE parking -- just more and better access on more occassions.

it's from 2011, not sure if the same rules still apply but i would guess that they do.
http://btoellner.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/07/kcmo-issues-downtown-parking-survey-why-the-results-likely-wont-highlight-the-solution.html

Good read. Parking minimums were eliminated downtown 2 years ago I want to say. Doesn't fix the backlog of problems this created but does help our boy KCFD opening doubleshift.

Also that very lot the blog discusses is now managed by the city at night to share parking... Part of the problem was also businesses didn't want to deal with the liability of sharing their parking... So the city stepped in to help eliminate that concern.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2016, 12:38:33 PM

A house has to be $250-$350k to be nice?

No, and I didn't say that, either.

But it helps!

I can totally see you saying that as you are out fly fishing with a pak head on your actual face loling
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 03, 2016, 12:56:26 PM
there are a shitload of cool homes between union hill, hyde and gillham park areas and main street, not sure how much they cost though.

my old house in South Hyde Park just sold again for like $113k. It was a sweet house.

 :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 03, 2016, 01:00:23 PM
i read this awhile back and thought it was interesting-

Quote
KCMO issues downtown parking survey (& why the results likely won't highlight the solution)
Yesterday, the City of Kansas City issued an online survey to get people's opinions on parking downtown.

The questions are typical:

Do you live downtown?

Work downtown?

Is parking hard to find?

Do you have a dedicated parking space?

Do you look for on-street parking or park in a garage?

How far from your destination is too far away to park?

Etc.

No matter how the survey comes back, I can't think of a single way that the city will recognize from the survey what one of the biggest problems with downtown parking is in this city.

First of all, I don't think there is a major problem with parking downtown for 90% of people, uses and destinations -- unless you're used to pulling up to a strip mall and parking right out front of your destination for free. But compared to most cities, Kansas City Parking is cake.  And cheap.

But if there is a problem, the problem isn't lack of parking spaces.

It's lack of access to those spaces.

Because of the city policy for the past 5 decades that has mandated a certain number of parking spots for downtown businesses, far too many parking spots have become single use lots. A business owns and maintains the lot, but those spaces can only be used by those businesses -- even if the business is not open.

Let's take the surface lot at 19th and McGee that encompasses the entire city block for an example. The lot is, I believe, owned by Children's Mercy Hospital.  They then drive shuttle buses from the lot to the hospital and back every day. At night, when the majority of their staff goes home, the entire city block of parking is chained off and not accessible. On a typical First Friday, there is a struggle for people to find parking spaces at the Crossroads -- and yet, this entire block of open parking spaces sits completely empty.

This same scenario plays out with various lots throughout downtown -- where a restaurant that relies almost solely on foot traffic during the day has empty spots, but then has a shortage of parking in the evening when people drive to their location -- and yet, the empty business lots around them are sitting empty. The Star has several lots exactly like this.

In many ways, Kansas City's parking space mandates have CREATED a parking shortage downtown. In other cities, it has become financially viable for a private person to own parking garages that cater to business workers during the day, but are easily accessible for events/restaurants/night life at night. They're mixed use garages.  We have very few of those in Kansas City (there is one on the 1700 block of Main between the old TWA building and the old Retro Inferno building - -so there are some) because of the city's parking laws.

It's my hope that the city actualy takes a deep dive into the city's downtown parking situation -- and doesn't just look at a survey to conclude that "Parking is fine" or "We need more parking".

The answer isn't that cut and dried. We need more mixed use parking spaces -- that have uses both in the day and then different uses in the evening. We don't necessarily need MORE parking -- just more and better access on more occassions.

it's from 2011, not sure if the same rules still apply but i would guess that they do.
http://btoellner.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/07/kcmo-issues-downtown-parking-survey-why-the-results-likely-wont-highlight-the-solution.html

Good read. Parking minimums were eliminated downtown 2 years ago I want to say. Doesn't fix the backlog of problems this created but does help our boy KCFD opening doubleshift.

Also that very lot the blog discusses is now managed by the city at night to share parking... Part of the problem was also businesses didn't want to deal with the liability of sharing their parking... So the city stepped in to help eliminate that concern.
Fyi I had a parking minimum I had to meet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 01:02:27 PM
Interesting. I may have boundaries of that change wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 01:19:43 PM
Okay clarification on my prior parking comment...

DC (downtown core) and pedestrian overlay districts don't require minimums for any business under 4k sf.

Also the crossroads restaurant and retail parking minimums have been eliminated by section 80-444 (b)... But in some brilliance that doesn't include taverns which is what I assume doubleshift is considered (no food)  Now if the crossroads would get the pedestrian overlay added it appears it would wipe out all parking minimums...again for businesses under 4000 sf.

Sorry for the misinformation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2016, 01:51:37 PM

A house has to be $250-$350k to be nice?

No, and I didn't say that, either.

But it helps!

I can totally see you saying that as you are out fly fishing with a pak head on your actual face loling

I think it was a Yao Ming head.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2016, 01:53:07 PM


A house has to be $250-$350k to be nice?

No, and I didn't say that, either.

But it helps!

I can totally see you saying that as you are out fly fishing with a pak head on your actual face loling

I think it was a Yao Ming head.

Probably, that was the part that was the fuzzyest
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 03, 2016, 06:32:04 PM
Okay clarification on my prior parking comment...

DC (downtown core) and pedestrian overlay districts don't require minimums for any business under 4k sf.

Also the crossroads restaurant and retail parking minimums have been eliminated by section 80-444 (b)... But in some brilliance that doesn't include taverns which is what I assume doubleshift is considered (no food)  Now if the crossroads would get the pedestrian overlay added it appears it would wipe out all parking minimums...again for businesses under 4000 sf.

Sorry for the misinformation.
We also don't meet the 4k sq ft requirement. At least not right now...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 07:04:36 PM
Under 4k is the only businesses exempt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 03, 2016, 08:41:43 PM
Under 4k is the only businesses exempt.
Duh, I read that backwards.

Still, crossroads doesn't qualify if you're more than three(?)  blocks off the streetcar route. Kinda frustrating bc leasing parking spaces is just a little expensive in my neighborhood. Plus, there is a "public" lot two blocks away. Just don't see why I need to provide these spaces when it's free to park in a huge lot that's a 5 min walk away.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 03, 2016, 08:42:49 PM
If kcmo got rid of that requirement, I could drop $12,000/yr in parking space lease.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 09:04:59 PM
If kcmo got rid of that requirement, I could drop $12,000/yr in parking space lease.

Ridiculous to require this....have you talked with Usher at city hall?

How I read the ordinance is west of paseo qualifies for the exemption but only restaurants and retail.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 03, 2016, 09:07:19 PM
If kcmo got rid of that requirement, I could drop $12,000/yr in parking space lease.

Ridiculous to require this....have you talked with Usher at city hall?

How I read the ordinance is west of paseo qualifies for the exemption but only restaurants and retail.
Lots of times. I don't think they actually keep checking we have those spots available, just for the cert of occupancy. So I don't think I'm going to renew the lease
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2016, 09:21:50 PM
 :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 04, 2016, 12:39:29 PM
there are a shitload of cool homes between union hill, hyde and gillham park areas and main street, not sure how much they cost though.

my old house in South Hyde Park just sold again for like $113k. It was a sweet house.

 :Wha:

 :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on March 04, 2016, 12:45:11 PM
there are a shitload of cool homes between union hill, hyde and gillham park areas and main street, not sure how much they cost though.

my old house in South Hyde Park just sold again for like $113k. It was a sweet house.
does $113k indicate there has been some appreciation in the 7 or 8 years since you owned it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 04, 2016, 01:06:36 PM
there are a shitload of cool homes between union hill, hyde and gillham park areas and main street, not sure how much they cost though.

my old house in South Hyde Park just sold again for like $113k. It was a sweet house.
does $113k indicate there has been some appreciation in the 7 or 8 years since you owned it?

I would certainly hope the home appreciated in value over the past 8 years. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2016, 01:20:08 PM
there are a shitload of cool homes between union hill, hyde and gillham park areas and main street, not sure how much they cost though.

my old house in South Hyde Park just sold again for like $113k. It was a sweet house.
does $113k indicate there has been some appreciation in the 7 or 8 years since you owned it?

I would certainly hope the home appreciated in value over the past 8 years. 

It really didn't. I don't remember the exact figure it was sold for last year but it was basically what I sold it for in 2008.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 04, 2016, 01:37:25 PM
kinda depends on when in 2008 you sold it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2016, 01:45:06 PM
kinda depends on when in 2008 you sold it

December 2008. It was not a good time to sell! Or perhaps it wasn't THAT bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 04, 2016, 03:04:33 PM
Downtown Topeka sucks, I can tell you that rusty

Remember that Italian restaurant that used to be downtown on Kansas Ave?  It was called Grazi's or something like that, it had a nice atmosphere.  I wonder whatever happened to that place.

Grazie's was awesome.   Half price lunch if you were there by 11:30.    It's been a couple of things since, now it is Luis' Place, a popup dinner club run by the guy that ran New City Cafe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on March 04, 2016, 04:17:27 PM
Downtown Topeka sucks, I can tell you that rusty

Remember that Italian restaurant that used to be downtown on Kansas Ave?  It was called Grazi's or something like that, it had a nice atmosphere.  I wonder whatever happened to that place.

Grazie's was awesome.   Half price lunch if you were there by 11:30.    It's been a couple of things since, now it is Luis' Place, a popup dinner club run by the guy that ran New City Cafe.
wasn't Grazie's related to Paisano's?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 04, 2016, 04:18:18 PM
Downtown Topeka sucks, I can tell you that rusty

Remember that Italian restaurant that used to be downtown on Kansas Ave?  It was called Grazi's or something like that, it had a nice atmosphere.  I wonder whatever happened to that place.

Grazie's was awesome.   Half price lunch if you were there by 11:30.    It's been a couple of things since, now it is Luis' Place, a popup dinner club run by the guy that ran New City Cafe.
wasn't Grazie's related to Paisano's?

the owner was a former partner of Paisanos.   But the food was better IMHO.   I'm not a Paisanos fan.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 07, 2016, 10:42:37 AM
4 days in KC for the tourney this week.. give me some Kansas City things to do, eat, etc. (I've never lived in the KC area so only know the obvious stuff)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2016, 10:49:34 AM
Downtown: you gotta hit up grinders and gE sponsored double shift brewing. Bar Louie has the best deals for Wednesdays game. Check out the river market on Saturday. Antons for a good steak.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 07, 2016, 10:54:56 AM
go to the peanut for some awesome wings and service so shitty that it makes you wonder if the wings are worth it but eventually you decide that yeah it was probably worth it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on March 07, 2016, 10:57:26 AM
Was at No Other Pub (SKC) briefly Friday evening, that place has a good chance to crush during the B12 tourney.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 11:00:59 AM
go to the peanut for some awesome wings and service so shitty that it makes you wonder if the wings are worth it but eventually you decide that yeah it was probably worth it.
definitely not worth it, he'll sit there all 4 days waiting for his rough ridin' overrated wings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2016, 11:07:08 AM
the problem is they are about the best wings in kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 11:14:46 AM
just like the burger at westport flea market  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2016, 11:15:51 AM
Go to the peanut downtown. There's an awesome gay bartender there. His name is Xavier. You can have up to 10 drinks and some wings and he'll literally only charge $17 for it all. Tell him Heath sent ya.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 11:17:07 AM
ya the plaza has good shopping/stealing if you get sick of stealing from business owners downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2016, 11:22:49 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2016, 11:23:40 AM
just like the burger at westport flea market  :lol:

i would honestly love a list of better wings than peanut wings so i can go get them instead next time.

blvd tavern wings are great but they are not buffalo wings

also jack stack wings are great but they are not buffalo wings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 07, 2016, 11:24:07 AM
Go to the peanut downtown. There's an awesome gay bartender there. His name is Xavier. You can have up to 10 drinks and some wings and he'll literally only charge $17 for it all. Tell him Heath sent ya.

How is him being gay relevant?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
It's not, but if you want to point out which bartender it is, it might help. So yeah, I guess it's semi relevant.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 11:39:16 AM

the peanut's wings are good like pretty much every buffalo wing is good.  because they're pretty much all the same.  fried chicken wing drenched in butter/hot sauce and some fresh cracked black pepper.  take the wing and drench it in blue cheese until you can't taste the wing anymore.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2016, 11:40:30 AM
Their blue chz is the BITB tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 07, 2016, 11:49:01 AM
yeah the blue cheese sets it apart. but i disagree that their wings are the same as anywhere else. they are very good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 11:57:06 AM
i'm not saying their wings aren't good, i'm saying most wings are good
you've really got to try to screw up something as simple as wings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2016, 11:57:18 AM

the peanut's wings are good like pretty much every buffalo wing is good.  because they're pretty much all the same.  fried chicken wing drenched in butter/hot sauce and some fresh cracked black pepper.  take the wing and drench it in blue cheese until you can't taste the wing anymore.

oh my goodness clams i expected better out of you. all wings are the same, now i've heard it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 07, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
What kind of bone count are we talking here?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 12:02:32 PM

the peanut's wings are good like pretty much every buffalo wing is good.  because they're pretty much all the same.  fried chicken wing drenched in butter/hot sauce and some fresh cracked black pepper.  take the wing and drench it in blue cheese until you can't taste the wing anymore.

oh my goodness clams i expected better out of you. all wings are the same, now i've heard it
like, i listed the ingredients to buffalo wings.  like, all 4 of them.
should we talk about the fryer temp next? 
is there a particular wing meat supplier you prefer over others?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on March 07, 2016, 12:02:35 PM
Austin's Bar and Grill has the best wings in KC.  Great Blue cheese, buffalo sauce is good or get them Delgato sauce is fried onto the wing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 07, 2016, 12:04:38 PM
What kind of bone count are we talking here?

>0
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 07, 2016, 12:07:20 PM
The only diff I can imagine in wings is type/mix of sauce and tenderness.

"Man, that hot sauce covered grease meat was so much better than the hot sauce covered grease meat down the street!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 07, 2016, 12:08:06 PM
Hot Sauce Grease Meat is probably a good bar and pub name, if anyone is getting one started.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2016, 12:24:25 PM
4 days in KC for the tourney this week.. give me some Kansas City things to do, eat, etc. (I've never lived in the KC area so only know the obvious stuff)

Downtown hotels will have big 12 Fan info volunteers... If you hit the right hotel at the right time you might have one awesome gE'r give you stud recos

What do you like to do or eat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2016, 12:38:35 PM

the peanut's wings are good like pretty much every buffalo wing is good.  because they're pretty much all the same.  fried chicken wing drenched in butter/hot sauce and some fresh cracked black pepper.  take the wing and drench it in blue cheese until you can't taste the wing anymore.

oh my goodness clams i expected better out of you. all wings are the same, now i've heard it
like, i listed the ingredients to buffalo wings.  like, all 4 of them.
should we talk about the fryer temp next? 
is there a particular wing meat supplier you prefer over others?

if you are unwilling to admit there are subpar wings out there, i'm not sure why you even felt the need to chime in
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
grinders has better wings fwiw
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 07, 2016, 12:48:16 PM
Not all wings are the same. Some places leave them all soft with rubbery skin. While others (i.e. Peanut, Grinders) tend to get them a little crispier.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2016, 12:49:42 PM
i had heard from a few people that tower tavern's wings were great. upon ordering them i discovered they A) do not use the whole wing, they just give you the little cut half-wing deal, (not to mention the wings were not very meaty to begin with), B) they grill the wings for a little bit after frying, which was interesting, in order to get a bit of "char", C) this combo resulted in a small, dry, unsatisfying half wing pile covering my plate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2016, 12:50:45 PM
i mean if you don't use the whole wing you are immediately DQ'd from calling them wings.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2016, 12:53:08 PM
Our work is having an open bar happy hour at Tavern on Thursday. I'll be the judge of this!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 07, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
I'm going to start a wing place called the two and one. people who like two boners walk in the front door and order and people that like one boners will walk in the back. basically two separate restaurants with the kitchen/ordering station in the middle. thoughts?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 07, 2016, 12:57:02 PM
Can you have a street window for bone-free? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 07, 2016, 01:00:32 PM
I just imagined a conversation between two wing lovers about where to go eat lunch together and they're like hey what about the two and one and then they keep talking and relize that one of them likes two bones and one likes one boners and that even though they're going to lunch together at the same restaurant they won't be able to sit at the same table or even talk to each other. how hilarious.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 07, 2016, 01:20:03 PM
"hey, where'd you and Johnson eat today"
"the two and one"
"oh cool. did you get a chance to talk about the emerson merger"
"uh no. we sat at different tables by ourselves in completely different parts of the restaurant"
" :confused: "



 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 07, 2016, 01:57:07 PM
You can get peanut wings "double dipped" where they fry them, sauce them, and fry them again so they are even crispier wow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 07, 2016, 02:03:58 PM
4 days in KC for the tourney this week.. give me some Kansas City things to do, eat, etc. (I've never lived in the KC area so only know the obvious stuff)

Downtown hotels will have big 12 Fan info volunteers... If you hit the right hotel at the right time you might have one awesome gE'r give you stud recos

What do you like to do or eat?

Good stuff so far.

Honestly, I'll just be paked the whole time, so between that and a few of the games, that will probably be the extent of the activities. Mostly just looking for places to eat. Love chicken wings, a good burger, bbq, steak, burritos, tacos, fish, sushi. Really not much that I don't like, I guess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 07, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
Oh, and we land at 8am Thursday morning, leave Sunday evening. Won't get to partake in any of the Wednesday activities cause I've always been a #NoWednesdays type of guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 07, 2016, 02:17:01 PM
man, wish i could have been at my computer when the street car truck sticked the eff out of that car parked in the middle of the street where cars/trains drive.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 07, 2016, 03:11:57 PM
tshirt idea- business in the front, one boners in the back.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2016, 03:12:13 PM
4 days in KC for the tourney this week.. give me some Kansas City things to do, eat, etc. (I've never lived in the KC area so only know the obvious stuff)

Downtown hotels will have big 12 Fan info volunteers... If you hit the right hotel at the right time you might have one awesome gE'r give you stud recos

What do you like to do or eat?

Good stuff so far.

Honestly, I'll just be paked the whole time, so between that and a few of the games, that will probably be the extent of the activities. Mostly just looking for places to eat. Love chicken wings, a good burger, bbq, steak, burritos, tacos, fish, sushi. Really not much that I don't like, I guess.
All walkable from sprint for easy of use
Wings... Peanut or Blvd Tavern
Burger... Town topic, tannin, Westside local (brgr in p&l is Meh to me)
BBQ... Plowboys or jack stack. No Winslows.
Steak...antons or majestic
Burrito... Los tules... El patron chicken mole burrito is short uber and worth it... Then across street for ponaks margs
Tacos... Ricos lupe tacos
Fish... Prob Bristol only okay choice. OpenTable it
Sushi... Nara
Unsolicited ... Gyros at zaina (11th and grand)

Overall avoid p&l restaurants... Much better versions of everything in crossroads or other downtown neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 07, 2016, 03:19:34 PM
If you go to westport, you have to try beer kitchen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ksuwizard on March 07, 2016, 03:21:57 PM
Wings Cafe in Westport/Northland has the best wings in the city hands down IMO. Awesome selection of sauces (wet and dry) and the wings are huge. Firecracker and Slap-Yo-Mama are my favs. It's right there on Broadway in Westport so not too far from Sprint/Downtown. Would love to hear some reviews from you wing connoisseurs as it's my go-to place in the city.

http://thewingscafe.com

 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 07, 2016, 03:24:55 PM
4 days in KC for the tourney this week.. give me some Kansas City things to do, eat, etc. (I've never lived in the KC area so only know the obvious stuff)

Downtown hotels will have big 12 Fan info volunteers... If you hit the right hotel at the right time you might have one awesome gE'r give you stud recos

What do you like to do or eat?

Good stuff so far.

Honestly, I'll just be paked the whole time, so between that and a few of the games, that will probably be the extent of the activities. Mostly just looking for places to eat. Love chicken wings, a good burger, bbq, steak, burritos, tacos, fish, sushi. Really not much that I don't like, I guess.
All walkable from sprint for easy of use
Wings... Peanut or Blvd Tavern
Burger... Town topic, tannin, Westside local (brgr in p&l is Meh to me)
BBQ... Plowboys or jack stack. No Winslows.
Steak...antons or majestic
Burrito... Los tules... El patron chicken mole burrito is short uber and worth it... Then across street for ponaks margs
Tacos... Ricos lupe tacos
Fish... Prob Bristol only okay choice. OpenTable it
Sushi... Nara
Unsolicited ... Gyros at zaina (11th and grand)

Overall avoid p&l restaurants... Much better versions of everything in crossroads or other downtown neighborhoods.

or if you dont feel like walking half a mile to any of those places you can take the street car but be careful because it often hits cars
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2016, 03:50:54 PM
Cars more often hit each other.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 03:54:35 PM
Cars more often hit each other.

i would guess that fewer than 50% of the cars in this city have hit another car
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 07, 2016, 03:55:46 PM
Cars more often hit each other.

no doubt- but were talking about a train in the middle of a road smashing into parked cars
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2016, 04:03:02 PM
Cars more often hit each other.

no doubt- but were talking about a train in the middle of a road smashing into parked cars

Sadly you missed the window on this topic. I'm sure it will happen again...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 07, 2016, 04:13:48 PM
So what happened when the streetrainbus hit the car? Like did it have to sit there for an hour blocking traffic while they waited for a tow truck?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2016, 04:30:18 PM
Still there. They never planned for this. Expecting to just scrap the whole thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 07, 2016, 04:31:21 PM
So what happened when the streetrainbus hit the car? Like did it have to sit there for an hour blocking traffic while they waited for a tow truck?

someone called the police and they issued the parked car a ticket for being smashed into while parked by a train that could have stopped and called for a tow because it was in testing and not in a hurry
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 07, 2016, 04:43:53 PM

someone called the police and they issued the parked car a ticket for being smashed into while parked by a train that could have stopped and called for a tow because it was in testing and not in a hurry

They probably issued the car a ticket for being illegally parked - not for being smashed into. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2016, 09:37:46 PM
Cars more often hit each other.

i would guess that fewer than 50% of the cars in this city have hit another car

At one time it was 100%  :Wha:

Quote
First automobile accident in Kansas City involved two cars in 1901 at 11th and Locust Streets between the first two automobiles in Kansas City, owned by Dr. A. H. Cordier and Herbert Walpole. Description of the crash in an early game of "chicken," with photo and description of the cars as "Locomotive steamer." Also identifies Scarritt Hospital at Askew and Gladstone Boulevards.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 09:52:09 PM
right by the "cop shop" too, smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 08, 2016, 09:17:50 AM
4 days in KC for the tourney this week.. give me some Kansas City things to do, eat, etc. (I've never lived in the KC area so only know the obvious stuff)

Downtown hotels will have big 12 Fan info volunteers... If you hit the right hotel at the right time you might have one awesome gE'r give you stud recos

What do you like to do or eat?

Good stuff so far.

Honestly, I'll just be paked the whole time, so between that and a few of the games, that will probably be the extent of the activities. Mostly just looking for places to eat. Love chicken wings, a good burger, bbq, steak, burritos, tacos, fish, sushi. Really not much that I don't like, I guess.
All walkable from sprint for easy of use
Wings... Peanut or Blvd Tavern
Burger... Town topic, tannin, Westside local (brgr in p&l is Meh to me)
BBQ... Plowboys or jack stack. No Winslows.
Steak...antons or majestic
Burrito... Los tules... El patron chicken mole burrito is short uber and worth it... Then across street for ponaks margs
Tacos... Ricos lupe tacos
Fish... Prob Bristol only okay choice. OpenTable it
Sushi... Nara
Unsolicited ... Gyros at zaina (11th and grand)

Overall avoid p&l restaurants... Much better versions of everything in crossroads or other downtown neighborhoods.

These are all great, Thanks.

We usually stay at a hotel in Westport and shuttle back and forth to PnL, so oscar kind of dictates how much time we spend in PnL (which will probably be all day Thurs and most of Friday, but we'll see how much he sucks it out of us)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 08, 2016, 09:18:13 AM
If you go to westport, you have to try beer kitchen.

Deviled eggs!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 09:40:05 AM
char bar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 09:41:23 AM
Chipotle
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 08, 2016, 09:56:36 AM
Depending on how many are in your group take the MAX... Uber will be surging I'm sure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on March 08, 2016, 03:18:42 PM
Anyone affected by this AT&T fiber outage? Hearing 435 corridor is down, hundreds of fiber lines cut on some Main St project?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 08, 2016, 03:34:22 PM
char bar

char bar can go jump in a lake.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 08, 2016, 03:35:23 PM
"Hey let's shut down a great music venue and put in some putt putt and BBQ"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 03:36:13 PM
omg the beaumont closed like 3 years before anybody did anything with it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 08, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
I bet mocat will love whatever fake BBQ place goes into the old Record Bar smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 08, 2016, 03:36:47 PM
omg the beaumont closed like 3 years before anybody did anything with it

is that a fact or an excuse
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 08, 2016, 03:40:01 PM
Char bar waiter: "Here's some shitty bbq, some shitty service, and croquet is in the back, now leave me alone". I mean, amirite?  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
they have this thing called the burnt heaven
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 03:46:56 PM
Char bar waiter: "Here's some shitty bbq, some shitty service, and croquet is in the back, now leave me alone". I mean, amirite?  :ROFL:

it's definitely not shitty bbq
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 08, 2016, 04:06:44 PM
I've never been.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
quadruple homicides  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
I've never been.

try the burnt heaven and share the crispy jo jo 'taters with your eating partner
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 04:23:14 PM
quadruple homicides  :blindfold:

wrong kansas city but i'll allow it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 06:13:07 PM
I didn't know Beaumont closed. Meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2016, 06:22:36 PM
I didn't know Beaumont closed. Meh
daggum!  where've you been weekend two-steppin' the past few years???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 08:26:14 PM
silverados
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 08, 2016, 08:46:56 PM
I know it was a dump, but I was sentimental about the Beaumont. Lot of fun shows there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 08:47:41 PM
the singer of lords of acid showed her boobies on stage
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 09, 2016, 09:21:53 AM
char bar is good enough BBQ and its a cool place. beaumont wasnt doing westport any good... sorry dad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 09, 2016, 09:25:45 AM
I saw fun., guster and OAR at the Beaumont.  Each of the three were my favorite bands in the world at some point of my life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 09, 2016, 09:45:46 AM
saw ben folds there back in like 2002
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 09, 2016, 09:54:26 AM
I saw Andrew wk there.

Also flogging molly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 09, 2016, 09:57:05 AM
Queens of the Stone Age in 2011 was my last time in there. Show wouldn't have been topped so I'm glad they shut it down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2016, 09:58:26 AM
I might have seen good charlotte there. When we moved to Eudora, I was clueless on KC event spaces. I know I saw them somewhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 09, 2016, 10:04:10 AM
when's this place shutting down?  I vote we #savethebeaumont! let's do it guys!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 09, 2016, 10:05:29 AM
I saw good charlotte at the bottleneck  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
when's this place shutting down?  I vote we #savethebeaumont! let's do it guys!!
They put some crap bbq place in there, dlew. It's gone.  :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2016, 10:07:20 AM
I saw good charlotte at the bottleneck  :blindfold:
I saw eve 6 there.  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 09, 2016, 10:22:02 AM
when's this place shutting down?  I vote we #savethebeaumont! let's do it guys!!
They put some crap bbq place in there, dlew. It's gone.  :bawl:
Well what will they do when I chain myself to the mic stands?  You can turn this into a bbq joint over my dead body!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 09, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 09, 2016, 10:31:23 AM
"from bands to bbq, the true story of westport's char bar"

i can come up with a name for any documentary (movie or book), hidden talent
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on March 09, 2016, 10:32:29 AM
when's this place shutting down?  I vote we #savethebeaumont! let's do it guys!!
They put some crap bbq place in there, dlew. It's gone.  :bawl:

I think Dlew was kidding... maybe not.

Char Bar is legit and actually a fantastic day drinking spot... other than Harry's and AH rooftop there's not much else.

For some reason, McCoy's never really pops off (probably because it's sit-down centered). Harpo's in the back is too closed off.

All that aside, their Burnt Heaven tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 09, 2016, 10:38:26 AM
from live shows to dead cows, the untold story of the death of Kansas City's best concert venue
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 09, 2016, 11:37:04 AM
so should I char bar or no? meet there for a protest at least?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 09, 2016, 01:22:36 PM
if there's absolutely no way to make it to q39, then sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 09, 2016, 01:50:58 PM

so should I char bar or no? meet there for a protest at least?
If Cage the Elephant is going to be there, I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 09, 2016, 03:17:12 PM

so should I char bar or no? meet there for a protest at least?
If Cage the Elephant is going to be there, I highly recommend it.

of the bands noted that have been seen there, I think andrew WK would be the most fun.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwQfqvYIgAAQOE4.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 10, 2016, 07:55:22 PM
I saw Josephine Collective there a couple times in high school
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 11, 2016, 12:05:11 PM
The British are obsessed with us, obsessed!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/guide-kansas-city-style-barbecue-7419070

(Spoiler: they visited Q39 but not Char Bar, score one for the hipsters)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on March 11, 2016, 05:14:30 PM

The British are obsessed with us, obsessed!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/guide-kansas-city-style-barbecue-7419070

(Spoiler: they visited Q39 but not Char Bar, score one for the hipsters)
I ate at a restaurant in Lyon, France that served a "steak from Kansas, USA"!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 11, 2016, 06:20:40 PM
Well how was the steak?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on March 11, 2016, 06:31:33 PM

Well how was the steak?
:lol:  I told my colleagues that I didn't come to France to eat KS beef, but they insisted. It was pretty average. I had been there for a couple of weeks on that trip, so experimenting by eating KS beef wasn't that disappointing.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 13, 2016, 12:19:30 PM
Last night I was at Westport and this super racist walked by my friend and called him the "N" word. I of course instantly snapped and got in his face. We were at the food trunk and a guy had to hold me back. The guy then told me he'd end me, lifted up his shirt, to let us know that he was packing and that he was a super badass. This is why old married couples don't go out anymore. It's straight up trash out there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on March 13, 2016, 02:13:11 PM
Holy crap Wack.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on March 13, 2016, 02:14:13 PM
I have never had somebody flash gun at me. A knife a couple of times.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 13, 2016, 02:40:08 PM
Ya, it was scary crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 13, 2016, 02:43:21 PM
Yeesh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2016, 03:04:11 PM
when's this place shutting down?  I vote we #savethebeaumont! let's do it guys!!
They put some crap bbq place in there, dlew. It's gone.  :bawl:

I think Dlew was kidding... maybe not.

Char Bar is legit and actually a fantastic day drinking spot... other than Harry's and AH rooftop there's not much else.

For some reason, McCoy's never really pops off (probably because it's sit-down centered). Harpo's in the back is too closed off.

All that aside, their Burnt Heaven tho.

What's AH?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 13, 2016, 06:53:34 PM
Ale house
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 13, 2016, 09:54:49 PM
Ale house

never been there but screw that place. It took the spot of Streetside Records.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 14, 2016, 10:48:26 AM
Last night I was at Westport and this super racist walked by my friend and called him the "N" word. I of course instantly snapped and got in his face. We were at the food trunk and a guy had to hold me back. The guy then told me he'd end me, lifted up his shirt, to let us know that he was packing and that he was a super badass. This is why old married couples don't go out anymore. It's straight up trash out there.

Holy crap, we had a hammered dude pull his shirt up and flash his gun at us at Beer Kitchen Saturday night. He claimed he worked for the FBI, it was absurd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 14, 2016, 10:49:58 AM
Last night I was at Westport and this super racist walked by my friend and called him the "N" word. I of course instantly snapped and got in his face. We were at the food trunk and a guy had to hold me back. The guy then told me he'd end me, lifted up his shirt, to let us know that he was packing and that he was a super badass. This is why old married couples don't go out anymore. It's straight up trash out there.

Holy crap, we had a hammered dude pull his shirt up and flash his gun at us at Beer Kitchen Saturday night. He claimed he worked for the FBI, it was absurd.
kc is full of crazies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2016, 10:56:02 AM
Murder capital of the world
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on March 14, 2016, 11:07:00 AM
That actually didn't happen, wacky just wanted everyone to know he doesn't tolerate racism.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2016, 11:08:54 AM
Pretty mumped up story to make up, hemmy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2016, 11:14:45 AM
this is my kc italian restaurant synopsis from memory

garozzo's: ok
cupini's: meh
cascone's: disgusting
anthony's: pretty good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 14, 2016, 12:06:21 PM
mocat what about Il Centro? that place over by Minsky's

Or lydias?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on March 14, 2016, 12:12:19 PM
Last night I was at Westport and this super racist walked by my friend and called him the "N" word. I of course instantly snapped and got in his face. We were at the food trunk and a guy had to hold me back. The guy then told me he'd end me, lifted up his shirt, to let us know that he was packing and that he was a super badass. This is why old married couples don't go out anymore. It's straight up trash out there.

Holy crap, we had a hammered dude pull his shirt up and flash his gun at us at Beer Kitchen Saturday night. He claimed he worked for the FBI, it was absurd.

what in the actual eff. move immediately.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 14, 2016, 12:21:56 PM
mocat what about Il Centro? that place over by Minsky's

Or lydias?

Il Centro is one of my favorites.  completely different than a garozzos or cascones.  I feel like a lot of people hate on Lydias - too commercial, overpriced, etc. etc.  but, I always have a good experience there. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 14, 2016, 12:28:27 PM
Lot of people get turned off by Lidias as it's not southern everything in red sauce Italian most are used to growing up with.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on March 14, 2016, 12:31:29 PM
Lydias has been fantastic every time I have been.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on March 14, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
That actually didn't happen, wacky just wanted everyone to know he doesn't tolerate racism.

maybe you missed the part where a guy had to hold him back?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on March 14, 2016, 12:38:49 PM
Have u dumbasses ever heard of bella napoli?   Also, have u dumbasses ever heard of the KC restaurant thread?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 14, 2016, 01:04:26 PM
i like the pizza (duh) at bella napoli, now that kim carnes has me thinking brookside, i need to throw carmen's into the mix b/c it's usually pretty great...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2016, 01:08:38 PM
That actually didn't happen, wacky just wanted everyone to know he doesn't tolerate racism.

maybe you missed the part where a guy had to hold him back?
I'm guessing lent is over? You've been on me these past couple of days.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on March 14, 2016, 01:11:37 PM
That actually didn't happen, wacky just wanted everyone to know he doesn't tolerate racism.

maybe you missed the part where a guy had to hold him back?
I'm guessing lent is over? You've been on way these past couple of days.

Lent is not over friend, just trying to put hemmy in his place.  On way?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
mocat what about Il Centro? that place over by Minsky's

Or lydias?

i have never been to il centro.

i have been to lidia's twice. the first time it was really really good and the 2nd time it was not good, but both times i believe it was around six or seven million dollars to eat there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 14, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
ya lidia's is expensive considering most people get the past trio which is like $30 for pasta in cheese or red sauce

also i think it's gross when "nice" restaurants like it portrays itself as use menus in plastic covers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 14, 2016, 01:29:52 PM
ya lidia's is expensive considering most people get the past trio which is like $30 for pasta in cheese or red sauce

also i think it's gross when "nice" restaurants like it portrays itself as use menus in plastic covers

Ewww
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 14, 2016, 01:31:10 PM
ya lidia's is expensive considering most people get the past trio which is like $30 for pasta in cheese or red sauce

also i think it's gross when "nice" restaurants like it portrays itself as use menus in plastic covers

35 for salad, pasta trio, and dessert... I think just the pasta trio was 23?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2016, 01:55:56 PM
i was like fresh out of college when i ate at lidia's and not quite  :kstategrad: yet so my $6-7m estimate may be on the high end
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 14, 2016, 02:25:33 PM
i like the pizza (duh) at bella napoli, now that kim carnes has me thinking brookside, i need to throw carmen's into the mix b/c it's usually pretty great...

yes on both of these.  Carmen's is great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 14, 2016, 02:31:33 PM
Italian butter / jazz / garlic oil dip... Whatever the particular restaurant calls it, get it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 14, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article65969357.html

Cordish announces plans to break ground on Three Light tower before Two Light is complete.  Looks like it'll be directly west, across Walnut. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 14, 2016, 05:01:03 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article65969357.html

Cordish announces plans to break ground on Three Light tower before Two Light is complete.  Looks like it'll be directly west, across Walnut.

I really hope we get a city target in one of these buildings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 14, 2016, 05:11:12 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article65969357.html

Cordish announces plans to break ground on Three Light tower before Two Light is complete.  Looks like it'll be directly west, across Walnut.

I really hope we get a city target in one of these buildings.

would certainly seem to fill a need. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 14, 2016, 05:12:38 PM
you mean like, a Target store?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 14, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article65969357.html

Cordish announces plans to break ground on Three Light tower before Two Light is complete.  Looks like it'll be directly west, across Walnut.

I really hope we get a city target in one of these buildings.

would certainly seem to fill a need.

I'd spend an incredible amount of money there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 14, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
you mean like, a Target store?

yeah! https://corporate.target.com/press/releases/2015/02/target-announces-store-growth-plans-for-2015 (https://corporate.target.com/press/releases/2015/02/target-announces-store-growth-plans-for-2015)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 14, 2016, 05:23:36 PM
there is absolutely no need for a target in the downtown loop, the place would be closed within a year
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2016, 05:25:51 PM
there is absolutely no need for a target in the downtown loop, the place would be closed within a year


give them lots of tax incentives
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 14, 2016, 07:18:59 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article65969357.html

Cordish announces plans to break ground on Three Light tower before Two Light is complete.  Looks like it'll be directly west, across Walnut.

I really hope we get a city target in one of these buildings.

would certainly seem to fill a need.

I'd spend an incredible amount of money there.

on what?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 14, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
i mean, we all love target and spend loads there but unless they want to close every night at 7pm, there's really no way it would work.
also, costco on linwood

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 14, 2016, 08:43:28 PM
Drop a good drugstore in crossroads and river market to supplement the CVS in the loop and it would fit most people's daily needs....a city target is more sexy obviously but probably not practical until population downtown doubles....of course I'm not stopping Target if they want to come give it a go...they would be in for the long game, not closing up in a year if it didn't work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on March 18, 2016, 11:08:14 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article65969357.html

Cordish announces plans to break ground on Three Light tower before Two Light is complete.  Looks like it'll be directly west, across Walnut.

I really hope we get a city target in one of these buildings.
The one in Seattle is BITB with an escalator for carts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2016, 11:09:59 AM
there is absolutely no need for a target in the downtown loop, the place would be closed within a year


give them lots of tax incentives

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 18, 2016, 11:34:51 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article65969357.html

Cordish announces plans to break ground on Three Light tower before Two Light is complete.  Looks like it'll be directly west, across Walnut.

I really hope we get a city target in one of these buildings.
The one in Seattle is BITB with an escalator for carts.

My face the first time I saw one of those things--> :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2016, 10:57:26 PM
https://youtu.be/kFM-1y9Ed3s
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2016, 11:00:54 PM
https://youtu.be/kFM-1y9Ed3s
This weekend a friend made it a point to rewind an NCAA tournament game so I could watch this. Great fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 22, 2016, 02:31:27 PM
https://twitter.com/KeepSawinWood/status/712359081793560576
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 22, 2016, 03:38:34 PM
"SLIM FIT AVAILABLE"  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 22, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
https://youtu.be/kFM-1y9Ed3s

Good pub!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 25, 2016, 05:39:19 PM
have any of you ever done this?  sounds cool as eff

https://cas.umkc.edu/physics/warko/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 25, 2016, 09:16:17 PM
have any of you ever done this?  sounds cool as eff

https://cas.umkc.edu/physics/warko/

that does sound cool, despite their geocities website.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2016, 10:22:50 PM
http://kcur.org/post/watch-mayor-sly-james-sing-bob-dylans-version-kansas-city#stream/0

my goodness this guy's ego knows no bounds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on March 29, 2016, 10:32:03 PM
http://kcur.org/post/watch-mayor-sly-james-sing-bob-dylans-version-kansas-city#stream/0

my goodness this guy's ego knows no bounds

 :love:

Take a seat son of Mumford and Johnny Depp!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 10:38:20 AM
I just want to call my shot, while I can. I was leaving the cosentinos/one life garage the other day and the street car zoomed by out of nowhere. Like, the gate opens, and you try to look both ways, but it's hard to do with ppl walking by on the sidewalk and then "zooooooom", a rough ridin' street car came out of nowhere at a high speed. Anyways, someone is going to get blasted leaving that garage when this thing opens up. It won't be pretty either. It will be on the drivers side.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2016, 10:45:43 AM
yesterday on main st the street car pulled to a stop just beyond a stoplight and and a lady pulled around it into the oncoming lane to pass it and almost caused a wreck. gonna be fuuuun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2016, 10:46:23 AM
So you can see normal cars, but you can't see a huge ass train?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 10:50:35 AM
I don't think you heard what's going on coming out of that garage. It's across the street from the midland. There's a crap tone of foot traffic on the sidewalk. You have to creep out of there. The gym is always packed as well. It scared the crap out of me and I was two cars back from leaving. No one will be expecting it at first. At the very least what the street car can do, is slow the eff down, like the rest of the traffic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 10:53:09 AM
yesterday on main st the street car pulled to a stop just beyond a stoplight and and a lady pulled around it into the oncoming lane to pass it and almost caused a wreck. gonna be fuuuun.
It's going to be a crap show in the beginning. I've seen a tone of ppl act super awkward around it, almost causing the same thing. Stupid white midwesterners.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 30, 2016, 10:54:26 AM
clams saw this coming a mile away
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2016, 10:55:13 AM
I don't think you heard what's going on coming out of that garage. It's across the street from the midland. There's a crap tone of foot traffic on the sidewalk. You have to creep out of there. The gym is always packed as well. It scared the crap out of me and I was two cars back from leaving. No one will be expecting it at first. At the very least what the street car can do, is slow the eff down, like the rest of the traffic.

It's going to be a crap show in the beginning. I've seen a tone of ppl act super awkward around it, almost causing the same thing. Stupid white midwesterners.  :shakesfist:

 :D and i thought it was just a typo the first time!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 10:59:45 AM
Whoops!  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 30, 2016, 11:05:10 AM
streetcar: HONK HONK HONK!!!

wacky: don't you take that ton with me, mr streetcar  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 30, 2016, 11:06:12 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 11:06:19 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2016, 11:06:34 AM
I don't think you heard what's going on coming out of that garage. It's across the street from the midland. There's a crap tone of foot traffic on the sidewalk. You have to creep out of there. The gym is always packed as well. It scared the crap out of me and I was two cars back from leaving. No one will be expecting it at first. At the very least what the street car can do, is slow the eff down, like the rest of the traffic.

You were two cars back in a garage and you couldn't see the street yet. I'm not sure that sounds like much of a problem when apparently the car at the front of the line was able to see the streetcar coming
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on March 30, 2016, 11:06:52 AM
oh wacky  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2016, 11:18:04 AM
How do you assholes know he wasn't misspelling tonne?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 30, 2016, 11:34:18 AM
How do you assholes know he wasn't misspelling tonne?

tram: BLOW BLOW BLOW!!!

madcat08: i say, steady on! mind your manoeuvring!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 11:37:08 AM
 :curse: :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 30, 2016, 12:27:19 PM
I don't think you heard what's going on coming out of that garage. It's across the street from the midland. There's a crap tone of foot traffic on the sidewalk. You have to creep out of there. The gym is always packed as well. It scared the crap out of me and I was two cars back from leaving. No one will be expecting it at first. At the very least what the street car can do, is slow the eff down, like the rest of the traffic.

That garage entry/exit was designed horribly in the first place... The pedestrian vs car experience is dangerous.... Now that they are limiting who can use that garage it backs up traffic as each car is waved in or not.... Then add in streetcar.... Horrible.

They need to close that entry and exit on main and just use walnut. There is plenty of capacity there to handle it and much better pedestrian interaction.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 30, 2016, 12:30:57 PM
yesterday on main st the street car pulled to a stop just beyond a stoplight and and a lady pulled around it into the oncoming lane to pass it and almost caused a wreck. gonna be fuuuun.

Bollards have been added where possible to stop this... 12th and main seems to be the nexus of this type of action.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 30, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
I have to imagine the streetcar is speed-restricted and programmed not to exceed the speed limit.  I don't know this, tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 30, 2016, 01:04:44 PM
You guys act like driving on Main St in the downtown loop was an easy task pre-streetcar. Between the foot traffic, buses, and un-synced street lights it was always a shitshow.

Why drive on Main when Wyandotte is available?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 01:22:34 PM
I don't think you heard what's going on coming out of that garage. It's across the street from the midland. There's a crap tone of foot traffic on the sidewalk. You have to creep out of there. The gym is always packed as well. It scared the crap out of me and I was two cars back from leaving. No one will be expecting it at first. At the very least what the street car can do, is slow the eff down, like the rest of the traffic.

That garage entry/exit was designed horribly in the first place... The pedestrian vs car experience is dangerous.... Now that they are limiting who can use that garage it backs up traffic as each car is waved in or not.... Then add in streetcar.... Horrible.

They need to close that entry and exit on main and just use walnut. There is plenty of capacity there to handle it and much better pedestrian interaction.
This X1000
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 30, 2016, 01:46:39 PM
I have to imagine the streetcar is speed-restricted and programmed not to exceed the speed limit.  I don't know this, tho.

It obeys the speed limit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2016, 03:23:16 PM
I have to imagine the streetcar is speed-restricted and programmed not to exceed the speed limit.  I don't know this, tho.
i have to imagine that the streetcar driver who rammed a car that was obviously outside of the white line was told not to ram cars that are obviously outside the line.  crazy world we live in. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 30, 2016, 04:16:31 PM
I have to imagine the streetcar is speed-restricted and programmed not to exceed the speed limit.  I don't know this, tho.
i have to imagine that the streetcar driver who rammed a car that was obviously outside of the white line was told not to ram cars that are obviously outside the line.  crazy world we live in.

the drivers certainly have discretion to apply the brakes.  can't understand why he plowed that car.  I doubt they have discretion to get the streetcar above the speed limit, tho.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2016, 04:24:37 PM
i wonder why they haven't applied the breaks in the 3 examples in this thread?  taters, wacky's, and car plow.
the city is going to learn a hard lesson with this toy train experiment.  until these things get shut down, i'd avoid the area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2016, 04:32:06 PM
The toy train was stopped in tater's example
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 04:35:23 PM
Lib^7 is going to change his tune when he's walking his dog on a nice easy going day and then "zoooooooom", a brush of death right before him and his dog. The train is out of control and all it can do is move faster past pedestrians.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2016, 04:46:56 PM
I don't imagine ever walking my dog downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 05:33:05 PM
Death trap USA!(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160330/0bfbf732685a97881b9f241ac9e412f3.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 30, 2016, 07:04:56 PM
Death trap USA!(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160330/0bfbf732685a97881b9f241ac9e412f3.jpg)


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Close it. Make a storefront and pedestrian walkway onto main.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 07:06:50 PM
Yup. "Zoooooooooom!!!"


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 07:07:50 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 30, 2016, 07:09:41 PM
Exit on walnut dork.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 07:11:35 PM
I will say tho, only allowing one entrance for cosentinos/one life would be even more of a crap show


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2016, 07:12:31 PM
maybe there's code issues that dictates # of exits, where they are located, etc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 07:12:48 PM
Exit on walnut dork.
What other way could I get the $ shot for bbs purposes?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on March 30, 2016, 07:13:49 PM
maybe there's code issues that dictates # of exits, where they are located, etc

what if there's a fire in there and wacky's car doesn't wake up from a kickback? :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2016, 07:15:59 PM
wacky pulls out of garage only to get kickbacked into path of oncoming train?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Looks like there is plenty of room to safely see the street. Pictures made this myth busted
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 07:19:35 PM
 :ohno: All I heard when it went by was... "Pew pew pew.... die die die.......zoooooooooom!" Repeat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2016, 07:20:06 PM
the wedding should be postponed until this parking garage issue has been resolved
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 07:21:20 PM
Also, that's a pic of the street car on the opposite side of the street. Imagine it near side while inching out! "CAPOWYYYYY!!!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 07:21:58 PM
the wedding should be postponed until this parking garage issue has been resolved
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 30, 2016, 08:55:36 PM
I will say tho, only allowing one entrance for cosentinos/one life would be even more of a crap show


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No way.  hell most of the time now one entrance and exit are coned off.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 30, 2016, 09:08:21 PM
first fanning ruins my birthday, now this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2016, 09:32:19 PM
I made your damn birthday thread! :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on March 30, 2016, 11:20:34 PM
Wacky, have you ever taken an iq test?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on March 31, 2016, 07:47:36 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 31, 2016, 08:17:05 AM
Remember when Kim Carnes was a thing? Man, those were the days!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 09, 2016, 02:00:03 PM
Drove by the plaza and am 95% sure I saw 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2016, 07:32:44 PM
had to have been
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 10, 2016, 07:41:28 PM
had to have been

~1:45PM, tall, dark sunnys, patio, burner
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2016, 07:47:44 PM
yup
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2016, 08:38:48 PM
 :drool:
(http://www.hcm2.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/PowerLight_aerial_three-buildings-760x519.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
i wish the city would enforce the sign on buildings rule.   cbiz on the plaza, one light, just atrocious and horrific.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2016, 09:09:13 PM
i wish the city would enforce the sign on buildings rule.   cbiz on the plaza, one light, just atrocious and horrific.

Not a fan of those examples either.  TWO LIGHT and THREE LIGHT won't help matters downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 12, 2016, 09:18:17 PM
You guys agree on a KC, MO issue :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2016, 09:29:24 PM
You guys agree on a KC, MO issue :Wha:

I bet 'clams and I agree on a lot of KCMO things truth be told.    :peek: :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2016, 09:31:38 PM
go cats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2016, 09:32:30 PM
You guys agree on a KC, MO issue :Wha:

#1KCMO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 14, 2016, 04:00:59 PM
@pissclams did you ever end up making that sangria mix I shared in this thread?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 05:18:39 PM
not yet, made some peach sangria crap but still plan on it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 15, 2016, 04:14:31 PM
had no idea until yesterday that Populous moved down to the board of trade building
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2016, 04:15:55 PM
 :love:

http://www.eventbrite.com/e/kc-crews-downtown-open-tickets-22361218005?aff=fbadconversions
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 15, 2016, 04:20:19 PM
That sounds pretty cool but also very dangerous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2016, 04:21:01 PM
There's no way they use real golf balls, right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 17, 2016, 10:59:30 AM
:drool:
(http://www.hcm2.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/PowerLight_aerial_three-buildings-760x519.jpg)

Maybe this belongs in the travel thread but doesn't anybody notice that lone letter on that far left sexy rendered building?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2016, 11:04:39 AM
omg we're getting a whataburger  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 17, 2016, 11:05:41 AM
:Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2016, 11:07:14 AM
:Wha:

taburger!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2016, 11:16:54 AM
Where? Link?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: O-town Kat on April 17, 2016, 11:28:38 AM
The opportunity to turn Metcalf South into the world's largest Whataburger should not be taken lightly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 17, 2016, 11:33:32 AM
omg we're getting a whataburger  :excited:

Corporate HQ!!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2016, 12:22:01 PM
link?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 17, 2016, 01:31:33 PM
Good grief some of u
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2016, 01:56:34 PM
This is like when the state finally sends Andy money for the prison library  :bawl: (but tears of joy)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2016, 03:05:49 PM
link?

Oh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2016, 03:40:36 PM
:Wha:

taburger!

This is a tapatalk only joke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2016, 03:53:41 PM
:Wha:

taburger!

This is a tapatalk only joke

 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 17, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
I don't believe the kc whatabur get thing? Is there proof? A link? Doubtful. V doubtful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2016, 04:37:33 PM
Did you not see the photo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2016, 04:56:19 PM
what's that they always say mocat, the proof's in the rendo?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2016, 04:58:10 PM
I mean what else could the W stand for
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 17, 2016, 05:07:40 PM
I don't think the W hotel is still a thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 17, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
I'm just gonna hold onto this whataburger thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on April 18, 2016, 12:09:25 AM
There's no way they use real golf balls, right?
It says on the website that they use practice balls that are like whiffle balls.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2016, 10:37:30 AM
http://www3.forbes.com/leadership/the-20-happiest-cities-to-work-in-right-now/3/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on April 18, 2016, 11:47:12 AM
http://www3.forbes.com/leadership/the-20-happiest-cities-to-work-in-right-now/3/
Dax and I are pissed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2016, 12:15:38 PM
There's no way they use real golf balls, right?

Quote
? What type of balls are being used?
? Practice balls made with "cross-linked foaming" that decompresses on impact, then re-forms. Heavier than a wiffle ball, but much lighter than a real golf ball. Travels much farther than a wiffle ball, but about one-third the distance of real golf balls. Much softer than real golf balls, making it safe for use in more locations. Balls are dimpled and can be worked for shot-shaping - draws, fades, etc. Designed to mimic the spin, trajectory and other flight characteristics of real golf balls.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on April 18, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Tiny House Hunters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 08:09:37 PM
i like that one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 08:12:33 PM
oh wait, this is a different one  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 08:30:23 PM
oh hi, i'm a 30 yr old lumberjack who is obsessed with beer and home brewing and there just isn't enough room in this tiny house kitchen for my home brewing  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 18, 2016, 08:46:23 PM
oh hi, i'm a 30 yr old lumberjack who is obsessed with beer and home brewing and there just isn't enough room in this tiny house kitchen for my home brewing  :Yuck:

Lumberjack in KC?  weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 08:50:38 PM
oh hi, i'm a 30 yr old lumberjack who is obsessed with beer and home brewing and there just isn't enough room in this tiny house kitchen for my home brewing  :Yuck:

Lumberjack in KC?  weird.

judging by attire
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 19, 2016, 07:17:43 AM
oh hi, i'm a 30 yr old lumberjack who is obsessed with beer and home brewing and there just isn't enough room in this tiny house kitchen for my home brewing  :Yuck:

Hey, go eff yourself,  guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 19, 2016, 11:00:58 AM
oh hi, i'm a 30 yr old lumberjack who is obsessed with beer and home brewing and there just isn't enough room in this tiny house kitchen for my home brewing  :Yuck:

Hey, go eff yourself,  guy.

Yeah, exactly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 24, 2016, 01:13:03 AM
The New Peanut is amazing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 24, 2016, 09:59:32 AM
 Where?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 24, 2016, 11:16:45 PM
Mission, off johnson drive where the clarret club used to be.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 25, 2016, 11:03:08 PM
The New Peanut is amazing

I tried it but still prefer the downtown OP one. Cozier.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on April 25, 2016, 11:31:13 PM
did you try the two bone counter?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 26, 2016, 07:12:51 AM
Did they keep all the pool tables


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 08:16:05 AM
What's different about the new peanut vs other peanuts? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 26, 2016, 08:40:56 AM
newer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 08:45:30 AM
kc thing- over hyping the living crap about particular/certain things about the city. 
example- the peanut
example 2- strouds
example 3- the plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 08:51:28 AM
Ppl hype the crap out of Up-Down too. I get bored after 30 minutes of games and go sit on the patio afterwords. Things in KC that are extremely overrated? Here's a few:

-Manny's
-El Patron
-Char bar (@mocat  ;))
-Strouds (I assume)
-Minsky's

etc.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 09:17:11 AM
 :billdance: :billdance:

http://www.weekendcollective.com/kemet-phantom-releases-kansas-city-streetcar-music-video/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 26, 2016, 09:33:36 AM
Minsky's is great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2016, 09:53:35 AM
Ppl hype the crap out of Up-Down too. I get bored after 30 minutes of games and go sit on the patio afterwords. Things in KC that are extremely overrated? Here's a few:

-Manny's
-El Patron
-Char bar (@mocat  ;))
-Strouds (I assume)
-Minsky's

etc.

Strouds is good. 

Manny's isn't even the best place on that street.  Taqueria Mexico is way better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 09:56:41 AM
I do need to try strouds. It's pretty embarrassing that i've never had it and i've been here for half my life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2016, 09:58:01 AM
You've only lived in kc like 3 years
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 10:02:47 AM
You've only lived in kc like 3 years
Do you not count surrounding areas?  :confused: Shawnee, Eudora? I mean, i've lived in the area for a long time. Eudora 5 years. Shawnee for like 5 years, and downtown for 3+
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2016, 10:08:45 AM
No, eudora isn't kc. I didn't know about shawnee, when was that?

(I'm just giving you the business, friend)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 10:15:06 AM
No, eudora isn't kc. I didn't know about shawnee, when was that?

(I'm just giving you the business, friend)
I know.  :) Shawnee was during 610 and UOP and my Masters. 2009-2013?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2016, 10:18:22 AM
Mocat, we need a math check
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 26, 2016, 10:25:45 AM
there was a Strouds in Manhattan when I went to college at Kansas State University!  I went there once.  I've lived in the KC metropolitan area for 10 years now, I haven't been to Strouds once!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on April 26, 2016, 11:23:06 AM
Where was the Stroud's in MHK?  Over by the old Holiday Inn?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 26, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
Strouds is crazy overrated.  Fried chicken in general is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on April 26, 2016, 11:44:06 AM
Where was the Stroud's in MHK?  Over by the old Holiday Inn?
Over by La Hacienda
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 26, 2016, 11:44:32 AM
Where was the Stroud's in MHK?  Over by the old Holiday Inn?

Over by westloop, think there was a Valentino's that took over the space, not sure if that's still a thing or not.  Used to be a Mexican restaurant over there, El Cazadors I think was the name, Grizzlies, and Frank Martin's Cuban restaurant The Patio.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slobber on April 26, 2016, 12:11:13 PM
Put a leg of Col. Sanders original recipe on a plate and a leg from Strouds. Nobody could tell the difference.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 26, 2016, 12:12:16 PM
then put a leg of Gus's!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 26, 2016, 12:23:03 PM
cmon down to the downtown kc open where we use fake golf balls and have 16 holes and if youre not impressed by that go ahead and try to dodge the oncoming out of control street rams trying to plow innocent golfers into oblivion
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 26, 2016, 12:23:34 PM
"KC Street Car Hits Hipster Dressed as Golfer on 14th Hole"

#kcthings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 26, 2016, 12:25:02 PM
not surprised that mhk turned it's nose up at crappy friend chicken and a restaurant called strouds. barforama.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on April 26, 2016, 01:25:07 PM
Strouds is crazy overrated.  Fried chicken in general is
:sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on April 26, 2016, 01:25:53 PM
Put a leg of Col. Sanders original recipe on a plate and a leg from Strouds. Nobody could tell the difference.


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This is just asinine
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 26, 2016, 01:48:33 PM


Strouds is good. 

Manny's isn't even the best place on that street.  Taqueria Mexico is way better.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 04:48:22 PM
Airlines to KC: Get on board for new KCI single terminal
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article73988477.html
 :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 05:17:22 PM
shocker!
a citizen's committee made up of people hand picked by sly james, and the aviation committee hand picked by sly james, and the airlines who have negotiated offline with sly james all agree with sly james.

anyway, i wonder if southwest plans to pull out of mci after the public vote fails this fall
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 05:28:24 PM
shocker!
a citizen's committee made up of people hand picked by sly james, and the aviation committee hand picked by sly james, and the airlines who have negotiated offline with sly james all agree with sly james.

anyway, i wonder if southwest plans to pull out of mci after the public vote fails this fall

shocker!  Airport experts Pissclams and Teresa Loar are against it.

Quote
Opponents also criticised the projected $1 billion cost and argued it would lead to big ticket price increases, although the airlines and finance experts say labor and fuel are the real drivers on ticket prices. They point to other cities that have done $1 billion upgrades without huge ticket price increases.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2016, 05:55:47 PM
Southwest airlines recently kicked a guy off a plane for speaking arabic, i crap you not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 06:12:11 PM
shocker!  Airport experts Pissclams and Teresa Loar and the majority of the city are against it.

fixed it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 07:13:44 PM
shocker!  Airport experts Pissclams and Teresa Loar and the majority of the city are against it.

fixed it

This highly scientific poll disagrees http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article73942887.html#navlink=SubDgst
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 26, 2016, 07:16:54 PM
What's different about the new peanut vs other peanuts? :dunno:

Walking distance
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 07:41:14 PM
shocker!  Airport experts Pissclams and Teresa Loar and the majority of the city are against it.

fixed it

This highly scientific poll disagrees http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article73942887.html#navlink=SubDgst

published by known kci single terminal cheerleader, the kc star
we'll see.  i'd be mildly surprised to see it passed but with the idiot voting base in jackson county, anything is possible.  the fact that a lot of these idiots are lapping up the idea that the airlines are now behind the concept says a lot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 07:46:43 PM
shocker!  Airport experts Pissclams and Teresa Loar and the majority of the city are against it.

fixed it

This highly scientific poll disagrees http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article73942887.html#navlink=SubDgst

published by known kci single terminal cheerleader, the kc star
we'll see.  i'd be mildly surprised to see it passed but with the idiot voting base in jackson county, anything is possible.  the fact that a lot of these idiots are lapping up the idea that the airlines are now behind the concept says a lot.

Your concern again is....higher ticket prices?  See no need to do anything at KCI?  Fear of taxpayer funds at risk?  I can't keep track.

It's voted on by all of KCMO BTW, not Jackson County.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 08:07:01 PM
flew in and out of MCI last week without a billion dollar issue.  no security lines, no issues with seating inside security.  no issues with plane boarding.  circle parking was great.

why is this thing on an august ballot and not november?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 08:20:48 PM
What's different about the new peanut vs other peanuts? :dunno:

Walking distance
Fair enough. I have one within walking distance.

Negs: They suck balls and taints there
Pros: Bartenders are so mumped up, they let us make our tab up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 26, 2016, 08:22:10 PM
why would you leave a tab unpaid anyway?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 08:26:17 PM
flew in and out of MCI last week without a billion dollar issue.  no security lines, no issues with seating inside security.  no issues with plane boarding.  circle parking was great.

why is this thing on an august ballot and not november?

That's great.  So your argument is KCI is fine and nothing needs done?

It's not on any ballot yet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 09:04:21 PM
i don't have an argument.  my experience is that as a customer, MCI is fine.  my experience has been nothing but positive flying in and out of the airport.

i would accept the idea that more bathrooms could be built inside security.  beyond that, i think we're good.  i don't need a capital grille at the airport, nor an abercrombie and fitch.


and ya the airlines are demanding that this get voted on in august.  i wonder why? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 09:10:38 PM
i don't have an argument.  my experience is that as a customer, MCI is fine.  my experience has been nothing but positive flying in and out of the airport.

i would accept the idea that more bathrooms could be built inside security.  beyond that, i think we're good.  i don't need a capital grille at the airport, nor an abercrombie and fitch.


and ya the airlines are demanding that this get voted on in august.  i wonder why?

So much bigger than a restaurant post security...but it's easier to boil it down to that argument I understand.

They did request August...I think it passes either way.  November will bring out the crazies given where Donald is in the polls...does that have an impact, I'd guess yes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2016, 09:13:45 PM
if i register to vote in mo in time, i'll vote yes for this thing philly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 09:14:17 PM
if i register to vote in mo in time, i'll vote yes for this thing philly.

 :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 26, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
the kc thread is right when phil and 'clams are arguing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 09:16:48 PM
the kc thread is right when phil and 'clams are arguing

He yings my yang...or vice versa.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2016, 09:29:20 PM
Two things:

RC's is better than Strouds. There is no better nexus of heart attack inducing food than the spot equidistant from RC's and Jess and Jim's.

MCI is a fantastic airport and amazing for the frequent business traveler.  I'll be very upset if/when they go single terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 09:37:19 PM
why would you leave a tab unpaid anyway?
You wouldn't. They're so mumped up, you tell them what you thought you ate and drank. You should experience the peanut downtown sometime on a weekend. And then they make up the tab.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 09:47:55 PM
Two things:

RC's is better than Strouds. There is no better nexus of heart attack inducing food than the spot equidistant from RC's and Jess and Jim's.

MCI is a fantastic airport and amazing for the frequent business traveler.  I'll be very upset if/when they go single terminal.

I submit to you that new KCI will be more convenient for the frequent traveler....to name a few things....

https://twitter.com/margueriteanne1/status/723576865496162304
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2016, 09:55:01 PM
that sounds great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2016, 09:55:29 PM
Here's the thing, Phil.  I appreciate your input, but I don't check bags, I don't rent cars, the only airline that really has a line, ever, is Southwest, and when I park at the Parking Spot, it takes me about ten minutes to get to my gate, and I have free parking points until Kingdom Come.

I don't eat when I get past the gate because I show up about 15 minutes before my flight takes off. I take a leak before I go through security.

When I deplane, it takes me two minutes, tops, to get to the area for the Spot bus to pick me up.

I've been to dozens of airports, ranging from local and regional to international, and MCI is the most user friendly for the local traveler.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 26, 2016, 10:01:03 PM
all MCI air traffic controllers remote into panj laptop everyday to work, so yeah, he gets special treatment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 10:03:01 PM
Here's the thing, Phil.  I appreciate your input, but I don't check bags, I don't rent cars, the only airline that really has a line, ever, is Southwest, and when I park at the Parking Spot, it takes me about ten minutes to get to my gate, and I have free parking points until Kingdom Come.

I don't eat when I get past the gate because I show up about 15 minutes before my flight takes off. I take a leak before I go through security.

When I deplane, it takes me two minutes, tops, to get to the area for the Spot bus to pick me up.

I've been to dozens of airports, ranging from local and regional to international, and MCI is the most user friendly for the local traveler.

That's cool...also understand that not every user of KCI is some sort of airport savant that none of those improvements I mentioned would benefit and has never been delayed.  Then layer on top of that, the structure is falling apart and a new terminal isn't going to add significant times to those you list (parking spot now doesn't drive to 15 different stopping points, they stop at 1 for example) and it's not going to raise ticket prices, I don't understand the resistance to this thing.

That tweet I posted was going into AA...you are crazy if you think only Southwest get a line.  I only travel monhtly but I know better than that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2016, 10:19:39 PM
all MCI air traffic controllers remote into panj laptop everyday to work, so yeah, he gets special treatment

There's ample room for you, too, TBT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 26, 2016, 10:20:35 PM
:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2016, 10:22:53 PM
Here's the thing, Phil.  I appreciate your input, but I don't check bags, I don't rent cars, the only airline that really has a line, ever, is Southwest, and when I park at the Parking Spot, it takes me about ten minutes to get to my gate, and I have free parking points until Kingdom Come.

I don't eat when I get past the gate because I show up about 15 minutes before my flight takes off. I take a leak before I go through security.

When I deplane, it takes me two minutes, tops, to get to the area for the Spot bus to pick me up.

I've been to dozens of airports, ranging from local and regional to international, and MCI is the most user friendly for the local traveler.

That's cool...also understand that not every user of KCI is some sort of airport savant that none of those improvements I mentioned would benefit and has never been delayed.  Then layer on top of that, the structure is falling apart and a new terminal isn't going to add significant times to those you list (parking spot now doesn't drive to 15 different stopping points, they stop at 1 for example) and it's not going to raise ticket prices, I don't understand the resistance to this thing.

That tweet I posted was going into AA...you are crazy if you think only Southwest get a line.  I only travel monhtly but I know better than that.

That may be the case.  It's been ages since I've flown AA.  I'm pretty much SW or Delta.  Delta if humanly possible.

I understand the "why".  I realize that Camelot can't exist forever.  I also know that things that I'm vehemently against (renovating the K vs. building a downtown ballpark) sometimes work out better than I thought they would.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 10:33:00 PM

I submit to you that new KCI will be more convenient for the frequent traveler....to name a few things....

  • TSA Pre-check for all airlines
  • security lines able to handle busy times
https://twitter.com/margueriteanne1/status/723576865496162304

this is a problem manufactured by the airport commission to drum up support for their new terminal plan
there's no reason why TSA precheck can't be implemented at ALL security entrances.  no reason other than they're purposely creating this mess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2016, 10:34:30 PM
Delta does TSA precheck because they aren't in the pocket of big terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 10:50:13 PM
they do.  so does swa.  as should american.  you think if we spend $1B we could hire an extra TSA guy for the AA security entrance? 
honestly didn't even realize there was that much american traffic out of mci. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2016, 10:53:43 PM
The ratio of tsa employees to travelers is v high at mci
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 26, 2016, 10:54:31 PM
they do.  so does swa.  as should american.  you think if we spend $1B we could hire an extra TSA guy for the AA security entrance? 
honestly didn't even realize there was that much american traffic out of mci. 

even if theres not, might as well build a brand new airport to support it, if it ever happens tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 11:02:02 PM
they do.  so does swa.  as should american.  you think if we spend $1B we could hire an extra TSA guy for the AA security entrance? 
honestly didn't even realize there was that much american traffic out of mci.

American has 30 flights in next 24 hours according to flykci
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2016, 11:09:06 PM
people are confused by people getting off a shuttle bus when they board? Huh?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 11:16:22 PM
a little over 1 per hour, that's not much traffic.  i believe it's the responsibility of the airline to provide the TSA agent/precheck at the airport where they rent space, so this person's issue is with american first and then mci for not holding their airlines to a higher standard.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 11:18:29 PM
people are confused by people getting off a shuttle bus when they board? Huh?
Shuttles use same road for drop off and pickup (worse on parking spot or air express that visit both terminals), that leads to full buses quicker and those arriving passengers boarding shuttles that have departing passengers waiting to be dropped off at later stops.

Be much more efficient to have a central boarding spot that also uses seperate buses for  passengers being dropped from those being picking up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 11:21:33 PM
a little over 1 per hour, that's not much traffic.  i believe it's the responsibility of the airline to provide the TSA agent/precheck at the airport where they rent space, so this person's issue is with american first and then mci for not holding their airlines to a higher standard.

Wait I thought it was the airport commission making that decision you just said? Are youbsaying AA is pissing their customers off on purpose so they want a new terminal that will raise AA costs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 11:26:28 PM
a little over 1 per hour, that's not much traffic.  i believe it's the responsibility of the airline to provide the TSA agent/precheck at the airport where they rent space, so this person's issue is with american first and then mci for not holding their airlines to a higher standard.

Wait I thought it was the airport commission making that decision you just said? Are youbsaying AA is pissing their customers off on purpose so they want a new terminal that will raise AA costs?

yes.  i think that the airlines, the commission, sly james, the citizen board, are all working together to forward their agenda.  the airlines will be net revenue positive after the dust settles.  they don't give a crap about you or you having a nice airport. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
I agree AA cares not about me. They do care about customer complaints... And those complaints about the  air side of KCI is their responsibility to maintain and upgrade. They can't give customers what customers are asking for with the current terminal.... That's their interest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2016, 11:53:57 PM
I agree AA cares not about me. They do care about customer complaints... And those complaints about the  air side of KCI is their responsibility to maintain and upgrade. They can't give customers what customers are asking for with the current terminal.... That's their interest.

they brought in $6 billion in profit last year, they could figure out a tsa precheck line if they wanted to. southwest has +2x more daily flights and has figured it out.  aa's interest is getting this single terminal approved so they can continue to grow their record setting profit numbers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 27, 2016, 12:02:13 AM
I agree AA cares not about me. They do care about customer complaints... And those complaints about the  air side of KCI is their responsibility to maintain and upgrade. They can't give customers what customers are asking for with the current terminal.... That's their interest.

they brought in $6 billion in profit last year, they could figure out a tsa precheck line if they wanted to. southwest has +2x more daily flights and has figured it out.  aa's interest is getting this single terminal approved so they can continue to grow their record setting profit numbers.

Just in KC, or across their whole company?  Makes a huge difference, and I would make a relatively good guess that is for the whole company.  So yeah, adding another person at EVERY airport is super easy :jerk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 27, 2016, 08:01:27 AM
I agree AA cares not about me. They do care about customer complaints... And those complaints about the  air side of KCI is their responsibility to maintain and upgrade. They can't give customers what customers are asking for with the current terminal.... That's their interest.

they brought in $6 billion in profit last year, they could figure out a tsa precheck line if they wanted to. southwest has +2x more daily flights and has figured it out.  aa's interest is getting this single terminal approved so they can continue to grow their record setting profit numbers.

Just in KC, or across their whole company?  Makes a huge difference, and I would make a relatively good guess that is for the whole company.  So yeah, adding another person at EVERY airport is super easy :jerk:
No way thats just MCI.  MCI served 10,472,461 passengers last year, and even if every one of those were AA, they'd have to be marking up tickets $500/ea. above cost on average.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 27, 2016, 08:02:47 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
Oh my....okay I'm passing on this debate pending further details on the plan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 27, 2016, 09:26:33 AM
I would like Kansas City to have a nicer airport.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 09:34:17 AM
Wait...the structure is falling apart?  Really?  I mean we have rough ridin' castles built in the 12th century still standing but an airport that's 20 years old is crap?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 27, 2016, 09:36:30 AM
Why do so many ppl like spending tax $ on so many unnecessary things?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 09:46:48 AM
Wait...the structure is falling apart?  Really?  I mean we have rough ridin' castles built in the 12th century still standing but an airport that's 20 years old is crap?

40....it's more the design itself that is the driver but yes there are major infrastructure items needing fixing....and that fixing costs as much if not more than building new according to estimates.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 09:50:14 AM
Wait...the structure is falling apart?  Really?  I mean we have rough ridin' castles built in the 12th century still standing but an airport that's 20 years old is crap?

40....it's more the design itself that is the driver but yes there are major infrastructure items needing fixing....and that fixing costs as much if not more than building new according to estimates.

Do you have a link to this information?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2016, 09:53:53 AM
The whole idea of fixing an existing entire airport costing more than building a new entire airport is something that seems completely unbelievable.  I cannot imagine not being able to repair whatever may be wrong with a 40 yr set of buildings for $1B+. 

I mean, the fudges in calcs, and prob what is included in those calcs, to make that calc work have to be extreme.

I mean, you could build pretty much any building on the KC skyline for like 20% of that, from scratch.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 27, 2016, 09:55:57 AM
 :billdance:
Wait...the structure is falling apart?  Really?  I mean we have rough ridin' castles built in the 12th century still standing but an airport that's 20 years old is crap?

tbf those castles were designed by Royalty and built by slaves, rather than a clusterfuck of politicians, design firms, airline execs, contractors, city officials etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 27, 2016, 09:57:26 AM
The whole idea of fixing an existing entire airport costing more than building a new entire airport is something that seems completely unbelievable.  I cannot imagine not being able to repair whatever may be wrong with a 40 yr set of buildings for $1B+. 

I mean, the fudges in calcs, and prob what is included in those calcs, to make that calc work have to be extreme.

This is KCMO math and planning we're dealing with, here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 27, 2016, 10:01:21 AM
The whole idea of fixing an existing entire airport costing more than building a new entire airport is something that seems completely unbelievable.  I cannot imagine not being able to repair whatever may be wrong with a 40 yr set of buildings for $1B+. 

I mean, the fudges in calcs, and prob what is included in those calcs, to make that calc work have to be extreme.

Has mocat checked the calculations?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 10:02:10 AM
It sounds like mocat is the source of these calculations.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 10:04:15 AM
Wait...the structure is falling apart?  Really?  I mean we have rough ridin' castles built in the 12th century still standing but an airport that's 20 years old is crap?

40....it's more the design itself that is the driver but yes there are major infrastructure items needing fixing....and that fixing costs as much if not more than building new according to estimates.

Do you have a link to this information?

Two years of work and presentations has been public the whole time...I think this is the right link, it's not pulling up for me right now

https://www.flykci.com/newsroom/terminal-master-plan/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 10:07:41 AM
The whole idea of fixing an existing entire airport costing more than building a new entire airport is something that seems completely unbelievable.  I cannot imagine not being able to repair whatever may be wrong with a 40 yr set of buildings for $1B+. 

I mean, the fudges in calcs, and prob what is included in those calcs, to make that calc work have to be extreme.

This is KCMO math and planning we're dealing with, here.

It's not....it's consultants...which is generally as bad I know....these consultants were hired by the airlines who are looking for most cost effective solution for them.

Cns the estimates show they can be fixed for around the same price as new.....but that doesn't fix the outdated design itself, logistic problems with plane movements, and loses the short walks people talk about with current kci.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Missouriscribe on April 27, 2016, 10:11:42 AM
Phil, are you in a line of work that stands to benefit from construction of a new airport?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2016, 10:14:59 AM
Phil, I get what you are saying, and I am not calling you a liar.  I am saying that the concept of repair of a 40 yr old building in what appears to be generally decent shape, to those who walk though it, costing as much as tearing said building down, hauling off massive amts of rubble, arch designing, engineering, bidding, building, commissioning, etc a new building is preposterous.  That is saying nothing about temp staging for airlines to continue functions during construction.

The consultants, at best are not including some pretty major costs of the new building in their numbers, imo.  Even if they are only looking at construction and ignoring design, demo, etc, I would still call bullshit on this. 

It has to be apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 10:23:54 AM
Phil, are you in a line of work that stands to benefit from construction of a new airport?

I have no vested interest other than my business and personal travel improving with new kci.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 10:26:45 AM
Phil, I get what you are saying, and I am not calling you a liar.  I am saying that the concept of repair of a 40 yr old building in what appears to be generally decent shape, to those who walk though it, costing as much as tearing said building down, hauling off massive amts of rubble, arch designing, engineering, bidding, building, commissioning, etc a new building is preposterous.  That is saying nothing about temp staging for airlines to continue functions during construction.

The consultants, at best are not including some pretty major costs of the new building in their numbers, imo.  Even if they are only looking at construction and ignoring design, demo, etc, I would still call bullshit on this. 

It has to be apples and oranges.

It does seem crazy on the surface. Which is why I lean on experts and the fact they are hired by airlines who have their costs in the forefront of their mind....they are going to want the most cost effective option....

Temp staging for airlines is done....terminal A is empty which is where new kci will go.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 27, 2016, 10:30:37 AM
why can't they put new KCI closer to things other than Platte City if they are gonna build new?  like there's that space by Union Station where the Royals had the Championship celebration, can't they just put it there?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 10:30:57 AM
Phil, I get what you are saying, and I am not calling you a liar.  I am saying that the concept of repair of a 40 yr old building in what appears to be generally decent shape, to those who walk though it, costing as much as tearing said building down, hauling off massive amts of rubble, arch designing, engineering, bidding, building, commissioning, etc a new building is preposterous.  That is saying nothing about temp staging for airlines to continue functions during construction.

The consultants, at best are not including some pretty major costs of the new building in their numbers, imo.  Even if they are only looking at construction and ignoring design, demo, etc, I would still call bullshit on this. 

It has to be apples and oranges.

It does seem crazy on the surface. Which is why I lean on experts and the fact they are hired by airlines who have their costs in the forefront of their mind....they are going to want the most cost effective option....

Temp staging for airlines is done....terminal A is empty which is where new kci will go.

Are the airlines the ones funding the new airport?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on April 27, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
This thread started in June of 2013 so I've never read it.  You people should move.

Will the proposed new airport include a way to get from it to Kansas City?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 10:33:51 AM
Phil, I get what you are saying, and I am not calling you a liar.  I am saying that the concept of repair of a 40 yr old building in what appears to be generally decent shape, to those who walk though it, costing as much as tearing said building down, hauling off massive amts of rubble, arch designing, engineering, bidding, building, commissioning, etc a new building is preposterous.  That is saying nothing about temp staging for airlines to continue functions during construction.

The consultants, at best are not including some pretty major costs of the new building in their numbers, imo.  Even if they are only looking at construction and ignoring design, demo, etc, I would still call bullshit on this. 

It has to be apples and oranges.

It does seem crazy on the surface. Which is why I lean on experts and the fact they are hired by airlines who have their costs in the forefront of their mind....they are going to want the most cost effective option....

Temp staging for airlines is done....terminal A is empty which is where new kci will go.

Are the airlines the ones funding the new airport?

Yes...read the newest presentation...it details that well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 27, 2016, 10:48:05 AM
Anybody been to the new brewery where the ox used to be? My coworker said it's pretty sweet.

http://www.stockyardsbrewing.com/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 10:52:09 AM
Anybody been to the new brewery where the ox used to be? My coworker said it's pretty sweet.

http://www.stockyardsbrewing.com/

It's alright, went on friday...beers need some variety ....it's nice they have wine and mixed drinks too ...hit them and then the ship for a good night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 27, 2016, 10:54:21 AM
Nice. I guess Voltaire owns it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 10:55:03 AM
This thread started in June of 2013 so I've never read it.  You people should move.

Will the proposed new airport include a way to get from it to Kansas City?

Uber
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 10:58:02 AM
If the airlines are paying for it, then let them pay for it, and tie their lease of the space to terms that regulate ticket prices.  Boom, done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 11:01:53 AM
If the airlines are paying for it, then let them pay for it, and tie their lease of the space to terms that regulate ticket prices.  Boom, done.

No airline will sign that. History shows terminals don't increase ticket prices at that airport....small part of their costs. 

There is a presentation showing this data from 4 other cities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 27, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
is building a new airport supposed to make more people start flying places?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 12:45:23 PM
from what i gather it's just supposed to make it easier for the airlines to operate, and also another notch on the ol headboard for Sly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 12:59:45 PM
New terminal = Truman international  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 01:08:18 PM
We can do better than truman
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 01:08:56 PM
Ned Yost intl.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on April 27, 2016, 01:15:00 PM
think we can strong-arm SLY from Russia?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 01:17:24 PM
If not, surely we can mush Barbuda for BBQ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 01:23:46 PM
If the airlines are paying for it, then let them pay for it, and tie their lease of the space to terms that regulate ticket prices.  Boom, done.

No airline will sign that. History shows terminals don't increase ticket prices at that airport....small part of their costs. 

There is a presentation showing this data from 4 other cities.

If they won't sign it, then woohoo they get to use this perfectly acceptable airport.  It's a win win really.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
No business would sign that anywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 01:49:06 PM
Then tough crap man, they can deal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 01:55:39 PM
Reasonable perspective
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 27, 2016, 02:40:13 PM
I remember a town hall about the single terminal proposal that happened at the central library like 2-3 years ago. My two take ways from that were:

1) The Q&A and panel quickly dissolved into listening to the imaginations of quite an eclectic group of insane people

2) Pretty much everyone there, insane or not were firmly, and I mean firmly, against making it be a single terminal

Granted that was about 400 people or so, but I literally heard 0 positive reception to a new terminal, and those who had even anything positive to say about it were simply not as adamant as those against it.

I went into that meeting just out of straight curiosity and with some coworkers, and not a strong opinion one way or another. Now that time has passed, there would be a lot better things for KC to spend $1 billion on, and as long as things stay as convenient as they are for the vast majority of serious business travelers, it ain't changing. Any small fixes, including just freaking adding precheck to American can be achieved w/o throwing out the entire airport. 

Also, apparently Panj and I have the exact same travel habits in how we use MCI.

Title: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 27, 2016, 02:45:37 PM
I say just build it and they will come and maybe pay for it later
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on April 27, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Is there value to the city in ensuring that visitors don't equate KC with Nantucket when they deplane?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 27, 2016, 02:51:28 PM
Is there value to the city in ensuring that visitors don't equate KC with Nantucket when they deplane?

Nantucket is elite AF.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2016, 02:56:35 PM
Is there value to the city in ensuring that visitors don't equate KC with Nantucket when they deplane?

No.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
i love that people are like lolwtf when they deplane at mci.

i also love that the only airline that makes people change planes at MCI is southwest. this should make people regret flying southwest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 03:01:59 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.  I'm talking like MCI > Amsterdam or something.  (Not that the volume could/would ever justify actually having those flights.)   My old company literally moved their executives to Chicago because the Danes hated getting on that extra flight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 03:03:21 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.

please explain what you mean here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 03:06:19 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.

please explain what you mean here

I mean if the time it takes to get from A to B, wherein KC is either A or B, were less (and I assume it would be less if there was a direct flight from A to B, instead of having to connect A to C to B) that would be more beneficial to consumers of the airport and Kansas City as a business environment in general.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 03:07:58 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.

please explain what you mean here

I mean if the time it takes to get from A to B, wherein KC is either A or B, were less (and I assume it would be less if there was a direct flight from A to B, instead of having to connect A to C to B) that would be more beneficial to consumers of the airport and Kansas City as a business environment in general.

are you talking about southwest airlines specifically? because no other airline could or would add more nonstop destinations from mci. but you mentioned a european destination which obviously excludes southwest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 27, 2016, 03:12:55 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.

please explain what you mean here

I mean if the time it takes to get from A to B, wherein KC is either A or B, were less (and I assume it would be less if there was a direct flight from A to B, instead of having to connect A to C to B) that would be more beneficial to consumers of the airport and Kansas City as a business environment in general.

are you talking about southwest airlines specifically? because no other airline could or would add more nonstop destinations from mci. but you mentioned a european destination which obviously excludes southwest.

I wasn't talking about any airline specifically, just referencing a real life example where having a direct flight would have been beneficial. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on April 27, 2016, 03:14:00 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.

please explain what you mean here

I mean if the time it takes to get from A to B, wherein KC is either A or B, were less (and I assume it would be less if there was a direct flight from A to B, instead of having to connect A to C to B) that would be more beneficial to consumers of the airport and Kansas City as a business environment in general.

are you talking about southwest airlines specifically? because no other airline could or would add more nonstop destinations from mci. but you mentioned a european destination which obviously excludes southwest.
the city of Indianapolis put up a $1.5 million guarantee to get a United to do a direct to SFO so we could get like over 60 more nonstops to cool places :party:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 03:15:09 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.

please explain what you mean here

I mean if the time it takes to get from A to B, wherein KC is either A or B, were less (and I assume it would be less if there was a direct flight from A to B, instead of having to connect A to C to B) that would be more beneficial to consumers of the airport and Kansas City as a business environment in general.

are you talking about southwest airlines specifically? because no other airline could or would add more nonstop destinations from mci. but you mentioned a european destination which obviously excludes southwest.

I wasn't talking about any airline specifically, just referencing a real life example where having a direct flight would have been beneficial.

i think it would be beneficial if we could just imagine a place and be there instantly, but i didn't post it in this thread about kansas city things
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.

please explain what you mean here

I mean if the time it takes to get from A to B, wherein KC is either A or B, were less (and I assume it would be less if there was a direct flight from A to B, instead of having to connect A to C to B) that would be more beneficial to consumers of the airport and Kansas City as a business environment in general.

are you talking about southwest airlines specifically? because no other airline could or would add more nonstop destinations from mci. but you mentioned a european destination which obviously excludes southwest.
the city of Indianapolis put up a $1.5 million guarantee to get a United to do a direct to SFO so we could get like over 60 more nonstops to cool places :party:

all the major carriers already fly to all their domestic hubs from mci (including SFO). also how does a nonstop from indianapolis to SFO get you 60 more nonstops?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 03:59:46 PM
He's talking about buying 60 more direct routes for 1.5 mil each
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 04:02:05 PM
I remember a town hall about the single terminal proposal that happened at the central library like 2-3 years ago....
2) Pretty much everyone there, insane or not were firmly, and I mean firmly, against making it be a single terminal

Quite a LOT of info and research has been done in that time frame.  Including buy-in from airlines now.

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Now that time has passed, there would be a lot better things for KC to spend $1 billion on

This isn't a "airport or sewers" or "airport or schools" discussion.  Money for any airport improvements is raised from fees and airline payments to the airport and can't be distributed to other areas in the city.  Same as the city general fund isn't used to pay for airport improvements.  It's a closed loop.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 27, 2016, 04:02:57 PM
Nice. I guess Voltaire owns it.

the brewery? false.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 04:03:49 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.  I'm talking like MCI > Amsterdam or something.  (Not that the volume could/would ever justify actually having those flights.)   My old company literally moved their executives to Chicago because the Danes hated getting on that extra flight.

Actually the volume is there
http://www.kmbc.com/news/kci-eyes-flights-to-europe-in-potential-international-expansion/27843684

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Meyer said about a plane full of people leave Kansas City International Airport every day for international destinations. He said some mid-sized markets are already drawing the expanded international flights.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 04:04:37 PM
If we could just spend one billion on anything I think it'd be cool to have a christ the redeemer statue replica but bigger
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 04:05:49 PM
If we could just spend one billion on anything I think it'd be cool to have a christ the redeemer statue replica but bigger

Huger version of this thing
(http://info.umkc.edu/unews/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cows2.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 04:07:48 PM
Maybe change it a little and call it moose the donger
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 27, 2016, 04:08:52 PM
Nice. I guess Voltaire owns it.

the brewery? false.
That's what my coworker said, when I asked if they had food. Told me to go across the street, since they owned it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 04:09:11 PM
Cain the leaner
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 27, 2016, 04:09:33 PM
I obviously believe you instead KCFD
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 04:11:48 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.  I'm talking like MCI > Amsterdam or something.  (Not that the volume could/would ever justify actually having those flights.)   My old company literally moved their executives to Chicago because the Danes hated getting on that extra flight.

Actually the volume is there
http://www.kmbc.com/news/kci-eyes-flights-to-europe-in-potential-international-expansion/27843684

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Meyer said about a plane full of people leave Kansas City International Airport every day for international destinations. He said some mid-sized markets are already drawing the expanded international flights.

that will never happen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 27, 2016, 04:13:20 PM
Nice. I guess Voltaire owns it.

the brewery? false.
That's what my coworker said, when I asked if they had food. Told me to go across the street, since they owned it.

nope. Voltaire owners are re-opening the golden ox, but are not affiliated with the brewery.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 04:18:10 PM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.  I'm talking like MCI > Amsterdam or something.  (Not that the volume could/would ever justify actually having those flights.)   My old company literally moved their executives to Chicago because the Danes hated getting on that extra flight.

Actually the volume is there
http://www.kmbc.com/news/kci-eyes-flights-to-europe-in-potential-international-expansion/27843684

Quote
Meyer said about a plane full of people leave Kansas City International Airport every day for international destinations. He said some mid-sized markets are already drawing the expanded international flights.

that will never happen

Yeah seems like a longshot.  A new terminal that can handle widebodies and better international arrival setup could help...it's happened in other similarly sized non-hub airports...Austin as the article mentions.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
Nice. I guess Voltaire owns it.

the brewery? false.
That's what my coworker said, when I asked if they had food. Told me to go across the street, since they owned it.

nope. Voltaire owners are re-opening the golden ox, but are not affiliated with the brewery.

The stockyards team seems very well funded.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 04:19:45 PM
Austin has an F1 track
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 27, 2016, 04:21:42 PM
Nice. I guess Voltaire owns it.

the brewery? false.
That's what my coworker said, when I asked if they had food. Told me to go across the street, since they owned it.

nope. Voltaire owners are re-opening the golden ox, but are not affiliated with the brewery.

The stockyards team seems very well funded.
Correct. Don't know where they got $. I think wealthy family.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 27, 2016, 04:27:31 PM
https://twitter.com/GreggFavre/status/725428429303123972
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 27, 2016, 04:36:55 PM
I would like a direct flight to/from austin.  Although I think they had one and recently got rid of it.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2016, 04:37:22 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2016, 04:43:47 PM
I would like a direct flight to/from austin.  Although I think they had one and recently got rid of it.

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Delta and Frontier both flew there for awhile...pretty embarrassing for Austin not to have a direct to such a stud city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 28, 2016, 12:40:33 PM
i am pro new airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 28, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
I'm pro new airport as long as I don't have to pay for it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2016, 01:26:18 PM
I'm pro new airport as long as I don't have to pay for it.
Spoiler alert: you will
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
I'm pro new airport as long as I don't have to pay for it.
Spoiler alert: you will

Wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 28, 2016, 02:04:03 PM
I'm pro new airport as long as I don't have to pay for it.
Spoiler alert: you will

Wrong.

Then sign the paper.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2016, 02:12:05 PM
I'm pro new airport as long as I don't have to pay for it.
Spoiler alert: you will

Wrong.

Then sign the paper.

What paper? This made up agreement Emo cat came up with? Come on.

Long version of my "wrong"... No taxes will be increased or KCMO general fund money be used to pay for a new KCI. If you fly you will pay an airport fee just like you do today. You will pay the airlines an amount of money to fly on their plane just like you do today. Part of the airlines COGS is the landing fees at an airport that they pay using the money you paid to fly on their planes. Just like you do today. Will your MCI to LAS  ticket price go up due to this increased cost ($2 per passenger estimated) to the airlines from higher landing fees? Almost certainly not as those fees are a tiny portion of the airlines cost structure and history at other airports building new terminals proves this out.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 28, 2016, 02:17:27 PM
Why would someone voluntarily enter into an agreement with no upside, but with considerable risk?  That is essentially what is being asked of the people  over this airport deal.  People are smart to be wary.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2016, 02:21:56 PM
What considerable risk are you thinking of? There is no risk to kcmo taxpayers here. There is also tons of upside for every user of the airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 28, 2016, 02:30:30 PM
The risk of higher ticket prices in the future.

I think we've pointed out how there is not "tons of upside for every user of the airport."  I think Pan did a good job of very specifically refuting that opinion stated as fact.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 28, 2016, 02:30:35 PM
I like our hayseed airport.  In fact, given a choice I just booked travel out of MHK to Dallas because it is even more hayseed than KCI.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 28, 2016, 02:31:05 PM
FYI I think LAX is a bigger shithole than KCI
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2016, 02:31:59 PM
i am pro new airport

Your line of work probably has something to gain from the project, so typical
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2016, 02:36:02 PM
Anyone who would pick mci in that situation would be dumb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 28, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
^ smug lib.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2016, 02:38:03 PM
The risk of higher ticket prices in the future.

I think we've pointed out how there is not "tons of upside for every user of the airport."  I think Pan did a good job of very specifically refuting that opinion stated as fact.

Actually he didn't refute every point but no matter... Can't convince everyone. Only stating an opinion. I totally get much easier to accept the status quo.  KCI has a short walk from an airplane...thats it's one trick.

A new terminal is not increasing risk of ticket prices going up. This is proven over and over at other airports. Find me one example of this occurring.

Could actually argue the opposite that not approving this could raise ticket prices as competition could decrease out of KCI.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2016, 02:38:26 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2016, 02:43:35 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2016, 02:56:32 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.

note- we don't have all the money we want to spend on sewers or schools or police or other necessary infrastructure.  what we are doing is considering diverting money that could be spent on those things, towards a $1B airport terminal.  why can't you figure out that our city is poor?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2016, 02:58:19 PM
Poor people don't use the airport, but they would probably work at the airport Chili's too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2016, 02:59:34 PM
That's a little thing I call job creation
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 28, 2016, 03:03:07 PM
The risk of higher ticket prices in the future.

I think we've pointed out how there is not "tons of upside for every user of the airport."  I think Pan did a good job of very specifically refuting that opinion stated as fact.

Actually he didn't refute every point but no matter... Can't convince everyone. Only stating an opinion. I totally get much easier to accept the status quo.  KCI has a short walk from an airplane...thats it's one trick.

A new terminal is not increasing risk of ticket prices going up. This is proven over and over at other airports. Find me one example of this occurring.

Could actually argue the opposite that not approving this could raise ticket prices as competition could decrease out of KCI.

This would almost certainly be a better argument than the one you've already put forth.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2016, 03:12:23 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.

note- we don't have all the money we want to spend on sewers or schools or police or other necessary infrastructure.  what we are doing is considering diverting money that could be spent on those things, towards a $1B airport terminal.  why can't you figure out that our city is poor?

Not diverting one penny from city needs to an airport with a yes vote in August.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 28, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
Anyone who would pick mci in that situation would be dumb.

I live slightly closer to MHK than MCI, I don't have to park and ride a shuttle, and I can get home sooner.   Yeah, dumb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 28, 2016, 03:19:12 PM
Anyone who would pick mci in that situation would be dumb.

I live slightly closer to MHK than MCI, I don't have to park and ride a shuttle, and I can get home sooner.   Yeah, dumb.

hey mikey, did you read that post that you just quoted or nah?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 28, 2016, 03:20:57 PM
Anyone who would pick mci in that situation would be dumb.

I live slightly closer to MHK than MCI, I don't have to park and ride a shuttle, and I can get home sooner.   Yeah, dumb.

hey mikey, did you read that post that you just quoted or nah?

lol, apparently not well.   thanks for pointing it out.  sorry lib, I'm a dummy.     My day job gets in the way or goEMAW sometimes!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.

note- we don't have all the money we want to spend on sewers or schools or police or other necessary infrastructure.  what we are doing is considering diverting money that could be spent on those things, towards a $1B airport terminal.  why can't you figure out that our city is poor?

Not diverting one penny from city needs to an airport with a yes vote in August.

unlimited money and unicorns, kc is truly a special place
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 28, 2016, 04:07:47 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.

note- we don't have all the money we want to spend on sewers or schools or police or other necessary infrastructure.  what we are doing is considering diverting money that could be spent on those things, towards a $1B airport terminal.  why can't you figure out that our city is poor?
This is 100% not how it works. But keep believing it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2016, 04:11:33 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.

note- we don't have all the money we want to spend on sewers or schools or police or other necessary infrastructure.  what we are doing is considering diverting money that could be spent on those things, towards a $1B airport terminal.  why can't you figure out that our city is poor?
This is 100% not how it works. But keep believing it.

of course it isn't.  maybe you missed the fact that my post was a hypothetical.  focus on the word "imagine" at the beginning of my 3rd sentence.
i'll keep believing you can read and comprehend but instead just skimmed my post in this instance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 28, 2016, 04:14:56 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.

note- we don't have all the money we want to spend on sewers or schools or police or other necessary infrastructure.  what we are doing is considering diverting money that could be spent on those things, towards a $1B airport terminal.  why can't you figure out that our city is poor?
This is 100% not how it works. But keep believing it.

of course it isn't.  maybe you missed the fact that my post was a hypothetical.  focus on the word "imagine" at the beginning of my 3rd sentence.
i'll keep believing you can read and comprehend but instead just skimmed my post in this instance.
Sorry man, I misread it. Pissclams extra pissy today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 28, 2016, 04:16:31 PM
You can cross the streams.

I think the Missouri Religious Freedom law says otherwise.

I may be wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2016, 04:23:19 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.

note- we don't have all the money we want to spend on sewers or schools or police or other necessary infrastructure.  what we are doing is considering diverting money that could be spent on those things, towards a $1B airport terminal.  why can't you figure out that our city is poor?
This is 100% not how it works. But keep believing it.

of course it isn't.  maybe you missed the fact that my post was a hypothetical.  focus on the word "imagine" at the beginning of my 3rd sentence.
i'll keep believing you can read and comprehend but instead just skimmed my post in this instance.
Sorry man, I misread it. Pissclams extra pissy today.


i'm just glad i kept believing you could read, son
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 28, 2016, 04:24:07 PM
everything at and about the new airport will be more expensive.  this extends beyond takeoff & landing fees.

imagine a world where instead of charging whatever we will be at the  new airport for parking and taking off and landing and rent, etc and spending it on a $1B terminal, instead we took half of that proposed income and renovated MCI.  then, we took the other $500M and spent it on schools and police and streetcars and all the crap the city actually needs.

unlike some, i'm not dumb enough to believe that the option presented is the least cost alternative

this city is going down the literal sewer and the new airport will do nothing to fix that

Spending 100 billion at KCI wouldn't decrease KCMO ability to spend all the money we want on sewers or schools. You can cross the streams.

note- we don't have all the money we want to spend on sewers or schools or police or other necessary infrastructure.  what we are doing is considering diverting money that could be spent on those things, towards a $1B airport terminal.  why can't you figure out that our city is poor?
This is 100% not how it works. But keep believing it.

of course it isn't.  maybe you missed the fact that my post was a hypothetical.  focus on the word "imagine" at the beginning of my 3rd sentence.
i'll keep believing you can read and comprehend but instead just skimmed my post in this instance.
Sorry man, I misread it. Pissclams extra pissy today.


i'm just glad i kept believing you could read, son
Thanks pops!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 28, 2016, 04:24:47 PM
Body bags everywhere
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2016, 04:27:22 PM
#zapped
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on April 28, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
Body bags everywhere

Mean streets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on April 29, 2016, 12:15:10 AM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.  I'm talking like MCI > Amsterdam or something.  (Not that the volume could/would ever justify actually having those flights.)   My old company literally moved their executives to Chicago because the Danes hated getting on that extra flight.

Actually the volume is there
http://www.kmbc.com/news/kci-eyes-flights-to-europe-in-potential-international-expansion/27843684

Quote
Meyer said about a plane full of people leave Kansas City International Airport every day for international destinations. He said some mid-sized markets are already drawing the expanded international flights.

Kansas City isn't getting direct Europe ever.

New Orleans doesn't have direct Europe. STL doesn't have direct Europe, Memphis doesn't have direct Europe.

In this 'new world' of airline consolidation, more and more travel will be through hubs. The board at United is already talking about axing their hub in Denver and Delta is drawing down their hub at MSP. Both cities will lose quite a bit of international service, if not all of it just like STL lost all of it when AA bought TWA.


I'm pro MKC btw, we don't need a big airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 29, 2016, 06:41:39 AM
Delta is drawing down their hub at MSP. 

Do you mean MEM?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2016, 09:39:07 AM
We'd be better off with more direct flights than we would with a new terminal.  I'm talking like MCI > Amsterdam or something.  (Not that the volume could/would ever justify actually having those flights.)   My old company literally moved their executives to Chicago because the Danes hated getting on that extra flight.

Actually the volume is there
http://www.kmbc.com/news/kci-eyes-flights-to-europe-in-potential-international-expansion/27843684

Quote
Meyer said about a plane full of people leave Kansas City International Airport every day for international destinations. He said some mid-sized markets are already drawing the expanded international flights.

Kansas City isn't getting direct Europe ever.

New Orleans doesn't have direct Europe. STL doesn't have direct Europe, Memphis doesn't have direct Europe.

In this 'new world' of airline consolidation, more and more travel will be through hubs. The board at United is already talking about axing their hub in Denver and Delta is drawing down their hub at MSP. Both cities will lose quite a bit of international service, if not all of it just like STL lost all of it when AA bought TWA.


I'm pro MKC btw, we don't need a big airport.

Lambert is a huge POS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2016, 12:20:28 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2016, 12:24:32 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2016, 12:27:09 PM
I don't think United is getting rid of their Denver hub any time soon.

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/earth_to_power/2014/08/united.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2016, 12:32:31 PM
I don't think United is getting rid of their Denver hub any time soon.

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/earth_to_power/2014/08/united.html

Keep in mind this information came from someone who thinks mkc is sufficient for kc (I don't think a 737 can even take off from mkc)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.
Ouch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 29, 2016, 12:36:44 PM
Still not over the Ethan Hawke thing huh?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2016, 12:37:57 PM
Still not over the Ethan Hawke thing huh?
He holds grudges. Super weird and random.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 29, 2016, 12:39:33 PM
Still not over the Ethan Hawke thing huh?
He holds grudges. Super weird and random.

He really was pretty good in White Fang.  Training Day, too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2016, 12:40:09 PM
I am entertained.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2016, 12:43:23 PM
They've been test running the crap out of the street car downtown. How many rough ridin' test runs do they have to have, before opening it up? It just seems pointless now. They've been testing it for two months.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 29, 2016, 12:44:32 PM
They've been test running the crap out of the street car downtown. How many rough ridin' test runs do they have to have, before opening it up? It just seems pointless now. They've been testing it for two months.

^ great example here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 29, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
you can basically search through all of wacky's posts, find a "#blessed!" post and then read his previous post and it's solid gold
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2016, 12:46:35 PM
Of not knowing why they're not using it yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2016, 12:49:44 PM
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6i04oks5j1roya1c.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2016, 12:51:24 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.

I'm in if clams is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2016, 12:53:55 PM
They've been test running the crap out of the street car downtown. How many rough ridin' test runs do they have to have, before opening it up? It just seems pointless now. They've been testing it for two months.

It is a lot of needless testing that is required prior to getting federal safety sign-off before the public can ride it.  The last two weeks have been the final tests which is simulated service... Basically what you are seeing now is what you will see (frequency, hours of operation etc) when you can ride it... Which is seven days away!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
They've been test running the crap out of the street car downtown. How many rough ridin' test runs do they have to have, before opening it up? It just seems pointless now. They've been testing it for two months.

It is a lot of needless testing that is required prior to getting federal safety sign-off before the public can ride it.  The last two weeks have been the final tests which is simulated service... Basically what you are seeing now is what you will see (frequency, hours of operation etc) when you can ride it... Which is seven days away!!!

as much as it's training for the operators and for federal safety licensing, it's also for public training.  people are still parking on and outside the white line despite how much coverage that damn white line has been getting.  people need to be taught the nuances including how to drive with that thing in traffic, etc.  so i would guess that's part of it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2016, 01:02:07 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.

that would be quite incredible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
They've been test running the crap out of the street car downtown. How many rough ridin' test runs do they have to have, before opening it up? It just seems pointless now. They've been testing it for two months.

It is a lot of needless testing that is required prior to getting federal safety sign-off before the public can ride it.  The last two weeks have been the final tests which is simulated service... Basically what you are seeing now is what you will see (frequency, hours of operation etc) when you can ride it... Which is seven days away!!!

as much as it's training for the operators and for federal safety licensing, it's also for public training.  people are still parking on and outside the white line despite how much coverage that damn white line has been getting.  people need to be taught the nuances including how to drive with that thing in traffic, etc.  so i would guess that's part of it.

Definitely... From my office, the train honking at people has went down significantly since the trains have increased frequency. People are starting to get it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2016, 01:10:05 PM
I don't rush out of the parking garage anymore either. I learned.  :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2016, 01:15:18 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.

I'm in if clams is.

clams would need to be a call in guest.  "clams from westwood, you are on Kansas City Things, what Kansas City thing is on your mind?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2016, 01:27:06 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.

I'm in if clams is.

clams would need to be a call in guest.  "clams from westwood, you are on Kansas City Things, what Kansas City thing is on your mind?"

i'm the only one of the two of us who lives in kansas city, missouri
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2016, 01:29:40 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2016, 01:30:08 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.

I'm in if clams is.

clams would need to be a call in guest.  "clams from westwood, you are on Kansas City Things, what Kansas City thing is on your mind?"

 :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on April 29, 2016, 01:34:48 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.

I'm in if clams is.
shoot it at Double Shift with KCFD playing the Sam Malone role
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2016, 01:37:53 PM
:dubious:

between dickstone and i
seemed he was inferring that i lived in westwood for some odd reason
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2016, 01:39:44 PM
:dubious:

between dickstone and i
seemed he was inferring that i lived in westwood for some odd reason

Probably just based on your opinions  :fatty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2016, 01:53:13 PM
:dubious:

between dickstone and i
seemed he was inferring that i lived in westwood for some odd reason

Probably just based on your opinions  :fatty:

i just figured that since he now lives in south johnson county that he may have forgotten where the lines of demarcation are between the northern cities
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 29, 2016, 02:21:37 PM
:dubious:

between dickstone and i
seemed he was inferring that i lived in westwood for some odd reason

Probably just based on your opinions  :fatty:

i just figured that since he now lives in south johnson county that he may have forgotten where the lines of demarcation are between the northern cities

and states
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 29, 2016, 02:38:04 PM
Phil should move to Manhattan NY so that he can finally be happy. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
:dubious:

between dickstone and i
seemed he was inferring that i lived in westwood for some odd reason

Probably just based on your opinions  :fatty:

i just figured that since he now lives in south johnson county that he may have forgotten where the lines of demarcation are between the northern cities

honest mistake, I meant clams from the plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2016, 02:50:26 PM
Phil should move to Manhattan NY so that he can finally be happy. 

I think Dallas, CA is more his speed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 29, 2016, 02:59:39 PM
Phil should move to Manhattan NY so that he can finally be happy. 

I think Dallas, CA is more his speed.

yes, very walkable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2016, 03:16:12 PM
The opportunity for the greatest turnaround in walkable city history exists here today, and it's not one to be taken lightly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 29, 2016, 04:23:56 PM
Man, I love the ridiculousness that is this thread.

kansas city things

I would like to start a public access television show, with that as the name, that is just you, Phil, and kcfd arguing about crap and drinking with Emo and Wacky randomly interjecting their stupid rough ridin' opinions. It would entertain me greatly.

I'm in if clams is.
shoot it at Double Shift with KCFD playing the Sam Malone role

guys, I'm in. it will be incredibly embarrassing for me b/c I'm terrible at arguing. But, I'll get you guys drunk!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2016, 04:29:27 PM
I don't like that I have to be the one with the "stupid rough ridin' opinions", but i'm in. I'll just get hamboned every episode.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 29, 2016, 04:32:24 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 29, 2016, 04:34:18 PM
You guys can get CNS to cook you healthy meals to cleanse the system every morning episode
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 29, 2016, 07:00:59 PM
I don't like that I have to be the one with the "stupid rough ridin' opinions", but i'm in. I'll just get hamboned every episode.

tigres catn chang they're strippes wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on April 29, 2016, 09:08:40 PM
I don't think United is getting rid of their Denver hub any time soon.

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/earth_to_power/2014/08/united.html

Keep in mind this information came from someone who thinks mkc is sufficient for kc (I don't think a 737 can even take off from mkc)

yeah, it's so small only 747's and C-5's can land there  :rolleyes:

(http://www.bkemp.us/picture_library/Aircraft/slides/Air%20Force%20One%20at%20KCMO.jpg)
(http://savekci.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/aircanadawheeler-1024x530.jpg)

http://realmoney.thestreet.com/articles/04/28/2016/would-united-be-stronger-if-divided

Quote
The solution, to some at least, is a revamp or perhaps a slice-and-dice of United's sprawling U.S. network. United takes great pride in its expansive route map, but if the company is unable to generate returns that match those of rivals, what's the point?

MKC has 6800' of runway. Midway is one of the busiest in the nation by movements with 6500'.

I understand that MKC has some reputation amongst the flatland sheeple that populate the surrounding metro, but it's really not difficult or special. Commercial ops were moved due to a failed bid to become a TWA super hub, which didn't pan out. It has precision approaches now and is 'safer' than ever.

https://www.airnav.com/depart?http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1605/00780BRAYMER.PDF
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2016, 09:20:05 AM
I don't like that I have to be the one with the "stupid rough ridin' opinions", but i'm in. I'll just get hamboned every episode.

tigres catn chang they're strippes wacky
That's fair
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 30, 2016, 09:53:59 AM
Eastcat do you know what a C-5 is?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 30, 2016, 09:55:01 AM
I mean that air Canada jet holds like 5 people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 30, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
The downtown airport should be the kc airport, I like that idea.  The current location is incredibly inconvenient.  Start the movement.  #savemkc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 30, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
Dtkc living is about to get that much better
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 30, 2016, 12:18:20 PM
Imagine hopping in an uber at your dtkc loft and being at the gate 10 minutes later  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2016, 12:44:31 PM
Imagine hopping in an uber at your dtkc loft and being at the gate 10 minutes later  :love:
That would be amazing, KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 30, 2016, 03:52:59 PM
Dont eff with my corporate air traffic.

Actually an airline out of mkc would be pretty amazing... But no way it could become a KCI replacement.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 30, 2016, 04:37:25 PM
SD's airport does 20 million passengers with one runway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on April 30, 2016, 08:37:52 PM
SD's airport does 20 million passengers with one runway

Gatwick does 40.3 million a year with one runway.


Imagine riding the streetcar across the river to a sexy new airport terminal  :love:.

mocat, yes I know what a C-5 is. Here is one at Wheeler.

(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/1/0/4/0279401.jpg)

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2016, 09:07:30 PM
SD's airport does 20 million passengers with one runway

this weekend it's doing about 20 million birds and 40 million passengers



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 01, 2016, 11:33:34 AM
Twitter is not the medium to coordinate a kcmo debate pak... Sorry clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 02, 2016, 02:23:17 PM
the street car starts soon. O/U 2 wrecks in week 1?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 02, 2016, 02:29:38 PM
the street car starts soon. O/U 2 wrecks deaths in week 1?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on May 02, 2016, 03:14:40 PM
idk what this thread is about but the kc airport should stay away from civilization.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 02, 2016, 03:44:09 PM
the street car starts soon. O/U 2 wrecks in week 1?

The streetcar has been running a simulated schedule that mirrors frequency and hours of operation for 2 to 3 weeks now... Zero wrecks. Drivers are learning!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 02, 2016, 04:25:10 PM
the street car starts soon. O/U 2 wrecks in week 1?

The streetcar has been running a simulated schedule that mirrors frequency and hours of operation for 2 to 3 weeks now... Zero wrecks. Drivers are learning!

p > 0.05
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 02, 2016, 04:34:41 PM
Oh crap, I planned a great weekend to come to KC. I'm going to drive 5 or 6 miles, park my car at Union Station and then ride the streetcar up to P&L. I'll pak my face off at PBR until 1am, then catch the streetcar to Union Station, and KSUBrian my way back home!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 10:08:14 AM
losing 85 cop jobs, despite passing sly's earnings tax.  hopefully the new billion dollar terminal is crime free.

http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/some-kcmo-residents-worry-police-budget-cuts-are-hurting-public-safety

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
That's pretty concerning, especially considering Kansas City Missouri is already one of the most violent cities in the country.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 10:33:23 AM
i wonder if we could approve some sort of tax that is funded from the imaginary bucket of free and unlimited money and just use those dollars to put these cops back on the beat. 

another idea would be to tax sales on purchases made in other municipalities.  levy a half-cent per gallon gasoline tax in houston? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 03, 2016, 10:35:54 AM
chevy's got this one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 10:36:36 AM
Kcpd could help here too... Their pension is killing the city budget.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2016, 10:40:23 AM
damn, we should have voted the earnings tax down to save those cops
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2016, 10:41:50 AM
85 cops seems like a lot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 10:43:46 AM
Kcpd could help here too... Their pension is killing the city budget.
:lol:

damn, we should have voted the earnings tax down to save those cops

hopefully the war zone around the new downtown hotel doesn't dissuade visitors from coming to our city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 10:44:25 AM
damn, we should have voted the earnings tax down to save those cops

maybe it was the wrong solution in the first place?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 11:02:37 AM
85 cops seems like a lot.

Kcmo has around 1500 officers and 2100 employees
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2016, 11:11:33 AM
85 cops seems like a lot.

Kcmo has around 1500 officers and 2100 employees
still seems like a lot?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 11:24:07 AM
Yeah, I thought the pd was bigger than that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 11:25:14 AM
it is a lot, like the article said- it's 8% of the department

for a city that's one of the most violent cities in the country, we're moving in the wrong direction as it relates to policing our city

but streetcar, downtown hotel, and billion dollar terminal (http://www.geocities.ws/missyslovepoems/words.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2016, 11:46:54 AM
damn, we should have voted the earnings tax down to save those cops

maybe it was the wrong solution in the first place?

well if it isn't clams brownback!  :adios:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 11:50:39 AM
I bet if we had no taxes at all we'd be able to hire like even more cops
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on May 03, 2016, 12:05:41 PM
KCMO PD has 1500 officers and 500 of them work some form of a desk job.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 12:19:21 PM
it is a lot, like the article said- it's 8% of the department

for a city that's one of the most violent cities in the country, we're moving in the wrong direction as it relates to policing our city

but streetcar, downtown hotel, and billion dollar terminal (http://www.geocities.ws/missyslovepoems/words.gif)

Subtract every one of those things from KCMO landscape... They never happened... we are in the exact same position.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on May 03, 2016, 12:35:33 PM
that unicorn  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 12:50:13 PM
KCPD ranks 16 of top 50 in the country when it comes to enlisted officers per capita (29 per 10,000 residents).  Other cities if note...

DC... 61 (top city)
Baltimore...47
Chicago... 44
St. Louis... 42
Boston....33
Dallas...28
LA....26
Denver....22
Portland... 16

2013 stats from bjs.gov....more cops doesn't appear to be the single fix to reduce crime.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2016, 12:55:26 PM
So I guess there's a second announcement forthcoming that will address how we will reduce crime?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 12:58:41 PM
So I guess there's a second announcement forthcoming that will address how we will reduce crime?

KC nova has been very successful since it's inception.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Entire bus system is free on Friday to celebrate streetcar opening. You can also ride kc bcycle for free on Friday with their code. Check their twitter feed for the code.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
So I guess there's a second announcement forthcoming that will address how we will reduce crime?

KC nova has been very successful since it's inception.

One of NOVA's three basic elements is: 

"For those who continue to commit violence, a certain and swift response from law enforcement on those individuals and their associates."

This reduction would appear to limit the ability to make a certain and swift response.  No?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 01:08:04 PM
So I guess there's a second announcement forthcoming that will address how we will reduce crime?

KC nova has been very successful since it's inception.

One of NOVA's three basic elements is: 

"For those who continue to commit violence, a certain and swift response from law enforcement on those individuals and their associates."

This reduction would appear to limit the ability to make a certain and swift response.  No?
No
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2016, 01:10:45 PM
KCPD ranks 16 of top 50 in the country when it comes to enlisted officers per capita (29 per 10,000 residents).  Other cities if note...

DC... 61 (top city)
Baltimore...47
Chicago... 44
St. Louis... 42
Boston....33
Dallas...28
LA....26

Denver....22
Portland... 16


 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2016, 01:15:06 PM
So I guess there's a second announcement forthcoming that will address how we will reduce crime?

KC nova has been very successful since it's inception.

One of NOVA's three basic elements is: 

"For those who continue to commit violence, a certain and swift response from law enforcement on those individuals and their associates."

This reduction would appear to limit the ability to make a certain and swift response.  No?
No

Well, homicides are trending up while the rate of solving them are going down.  :(

2015 was Kansas City’s deadliest year for homicides since 2011

Quote
Homicide investigators cleared, or solved, 67 of last year’s (2015) killings. That gave them a 61 percent clearance rate. That compared to a 67 percent clearance rate for 2014./
Quote

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article52530060.html#storylink=cpy

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article52530060.html

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 03, 2016, 01:19:37 PM
national homicide solve rate was 61% in 2013 http://www.npr.org/2015/03/30/395799413/how-many-crimes-do-your-police-clear-now-you-can-find-out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2016, 01:27:38 PM
Well I think now that KCPD is burdened by 85 less police officers we can expect big things!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 01:42:32 PM
So right away you have a 40 percent chance to get away with murder. I'll take those odds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2016, 01:43:53 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 01:45:29 PM
When are we going to do lunch, emo?  :Chirp:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
I already ate today.  I plan to eat lunch every other day this week tho so whenevs.  El Pollo Rey?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 01:57:30 PM
Man, setting murder traps is ez, why don't more people do this?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2016, 01:59:35 PM
What is the clearance rate for people who were murdered while being white.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2016, 02:06:59 PM
Between a shitty baseball team, the Chiefs creating the first all women beater team in the NFL, the rail downtown, and now this! Time to scram, fellas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 02:18:15 PM
Trim was right
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 03:08:48 PM
No KCI vote in 2016...mayor and council listening to public.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 03:09:36 PM
Poop
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 03, 2016, 03:16:49 PM
Enjoy your birds and random door alarms going off for no reason. :lol:
(http://www.kansas.com/news/local/vle4h0/picture18746943/ALTERNATES/LANDSCAPE_1140/eisenhower%20terminal.jpg)
(http://www.kansas.com/news/local/fi092u/picture22986297/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/060315airport_br02)
(http://www.kansas.com/entertainment/restaurants/dining-with-denise-neil/y5yv8k/picture23017182/ALTERNATES/FREE_640/060315Eisenhower_jg05)

Not a single stray bird in sight!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 03:22:14 PM
it is a lot, like the article said- it's 8% of the department

for a city that's one of the most violent cities in the country, we're moving in the wrong direction as it relates to policing our city

but streetcar, downtown hotel, and billion dollar terminal (http://www.geocities.ws/missyslovepoems/words.gif)

Subtract every one of those things from KCMO landscape... They never happened... we are in the exact same position.

(http://www.geocities.ws/missyslovepoems/words.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2016, 03:22:30 PM
I don't get it. What am I looking at, Gooch?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 03:29:02 PM
Enjoy your birds and random door alarms going off for no reason. :lol:
(http://www.kansas.com/news/local/vle4h0/picture18746943/ALTERNATES/LANDSCAPE_1140/eisenhower%20terminal.jpg)
(http://www.kansas.com/news/local/fi092u/picture22986297/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/060315airport_br02)
(http://www.kansas.com/entertainment/restaurants/dining-with-denise-neil/y5yv8k/picture23017182/ALTERNATES/FREE_640/060315Eisenhower_jg05)

Not a single stray bird in sight!

But now you have no money to do anything else!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2016, 03:45:39 PM
Shame, heard there are like 85 cops with big city experience looking for work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2016, 03:48:38 PM
the river city brewery at ICT is very affordable!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
Shame, heard there are like 85 cops with big city experience looking for work.

No cops cut. Vacant positions eliminated
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
Shame, heard there are like 85 cops with big city experience looking for work.

No cops cut. Vacant positions eliminated

that's not what attrition means.  also-

Quote
There were no raises.

- 100 civilian and 60 law enforcement positions were eliminated through attrition.

- Purchased half the number of vehicles they were slated to.

hey cops working in murder city, sorry no raises- but how about a high five, an atta boy, and an ice cream sandwich. 

too bad our city government has spent so much time figuring out how to jam a billion dollar airport terminal and a downtown hotel down our throats instead of figuring out a way to pay our bills.  this is only the beginning, of course. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 04:23:18 PM
big win for the good guys

http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/mayor-sly-james-poised-to-make-major-announcement-about-airlines-recommendations-for-kci-terminal

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 04:30:37 PM
Shame, heard there are like 85 cops with big city experience looking for work.

No cops cut. Vacant positions eliminated

that's not what attrition means.  also-

The title literally says "eliminate vacant positions"
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article75207197.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 04:31:58 PM
big win for the good guys

http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/mayor-sly-james-poised-to-make-major-announcement-about-airlines-recommendations-for-kci-terminal

Sly is shoving this down everyone's throat though? Nice work clams, I know you spent a lot of time righting this wrong... Where should we spend all our extra money??? Let me know when you see it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 04:34:54 PM
Shame, heard there are like 85 cops with big city experience looking for work.

No cops cut. Vacant positions eliminated

that's not what attrition means.  also-

The title literally says "eliminate vacant positions"
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article75207197.html

attrition = eliminating vacant headcount and not backfilling when someone leaves a job
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 04:36:09 PM
big win for the good guys

http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/mayor-sly-james-poised-to-make-major-announcement-about-airlines-recommendations-for-kci-terminal

Sly is shoving this down everyone's throat though? Nice work clams, I know you spent a lot of time righting this wrong... Where should we spend all our extra money??? Let me know when you see it.

money is everywhere, growing on trees  (http://www.geocities.ws/missyslovepoems/words.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
big win for the good guys

http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/mayor-sly-james-poised-to-make-major-announcement-about-airlines-recommendations-for-kci-terminal

Sly is shoving this down everyone's throat though? Nice work clams, I know you spent a lot of time righting this wrong... Where should we spend all our extra money??? Let me know when you see it.

money is everywhere, growing on trees  (http://www.geocities.ws/missyslovepoems/words.gif)

Whatcha spending your extra KCI money on?

Take that sly! We win! Less flights, more bandaid fixes with money that could have been used for a new KCI... Its the KCMO way!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 04:58:24 PM
Oh and save another 3-9% for a new terminal further down the road to account for construction inflation costs. Man did we score big today or what KC?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 05:00:17 PM
delicious tears
at least sly gets it.  is this the first sly vs phil showdown none of us expected?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2016, 05:07:01 PM
Walk it off Phil :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 05:08:33 PM
I think it was the right move to delay the vote given the polls... Although I found the way he presented it as weak.

Clams <3 Sly.... I think it's a great announcement for that alone. 2017 this will be back with more info for voters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 05:09:24 PM
Walk it off Phil :lol:

Good advice... I'll ride it off Friday.. streetcar style!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2016, 05:13:45 PM
Walk it off Phil :lol:

Good advice... I'll ride it off Friday.. streetcar style!
wear a helmet!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 05:17:44 PM

this is a good opportunity for sly james to bridge voters on both sides of the issue by delivering a realistic airport proposal.  but he won't, because he's sly james.  this single terminal proposal will never pass, not today and not in 2017.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 05:39:51 PM

this is a good opportunity for sly james to bridge voters on both sides of the issue by delivering a realistic airport proposal.  but he won't, because he's sly james.  this single terminal proposal will never pass, not today and not in 2017.

I agree with your first comment. I think better education to the options and why will move the needle the 10%. Kemper renovation would be a great exhibit on going the cheap option not working.

James will set his focus on the big infrastructure bond issue which will probably require a property tax increase.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2016, 06:50:15 PM
Radio said we couldn't even afford the ad campaign to stump for the vote.   Also said, no airlines pulling out or dropping flights. 



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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 06:57:58 PM
No airline is going to come out and say that. That's pretty much PR suicide. They did say they aren't expanding or looking to being in bigger planes with our current config.


Who is we? Any ad campaign would have came from airlines and business community  putting money into it... The city in no way should spend money to stump for this....ever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2016, 07:08:20 PM
Radio said the airline was wiling to finance the changes, but refused to fund the campaign.  :dunno:

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
$2m and the airlines aren't moving an inch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 03, 2016, 07:21:18 PM
Phil, people love kc's airport the way it is.  Check out Wikipedia for more info
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 08:57:17 PM
Radio said the airline was wiling to finance the changes, but refused to fund the campaign.  :dunno:

Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk

I'm sure the city business community would throw in as soon as the city decided to put it up for vote.  They are the biggest pushers of this whole thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 03, 2016, 09:04:24 PM
Lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2016, 09:12:12 PM
good grief, man.  get ahold of yourself. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2016, 09:25:57 PM
good grief, man.  get ahold of yourself.

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 08:25:16 AM
You guys ever think about the population of KC who actually use the airport? I didn't take my first flight till I was in 8th grade and that was because grandma hooked me up. We have a lot of poors in this city. Taxing them for a new airport is rough ridin' redic!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 04, 2016, 08:29:50 AM
You guys ever think about the population of KC who actually use the airport? I didn't take my first flight till I was in 8th grade and that was because grandma hooked me up. We have a lot of poors in this city. Taxing them for a new airport is rough ridin' redic!

GET HIM PHIL!!!  :chainsaw:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2016, 08:34:33 AM
You guys ever think about the population of KC who actually use the airport? I didn't take my first flight till I was in 8th grade and that was because grandma hooked me up. We have a lot of poors in this city. Taxing them for a new airport is rough ridin' redic!

Per Emo request....

You don't use the airport, you don't pay one cent for new terminal. There is no tax.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
(http://www.geocities.ws/missyslovepoems/words.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 09:01:18 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2016, 09:03:08 AM
You're taxing cerner more than anyone really
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 09:04:31 AM
You're taxing cerner more than anyone really
Is that why SKC sucks now?  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2016, 09:05:15 AM
What if they suck because of the airport?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
What if they suck because of the airport?
Impossible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 04, 2016, 09:09:45 AM
The airport already killed Sprint.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
The airport already killed Sprint.
Sprint killed itself. Lousy place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 04, 2016, 09:40:21 AM
i love it when dlew drops by to make a streetcar safety post and wacky makes a misinformed tax post and phil loses his mind and cannot let one single post go by without responding  :love:  :love:  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 09:41:44 AM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2016, 09:44:23 AM
i love it when dlew drops by to make a streetcar safety post and wacky makes a misinformed tax post and phil loses his mind and cannot let one single post go by without responding  :love:  :love:  :love:

Ignorance annoys me with city stuff if you can't tell  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 09:46:59 AM
i love it when dlew drops by to make a streetcar safety post and wacky makes a misinformed tax post and phil loses his mind and cannot let one single post go by without responding  :love:  :love:  :love:

Ignorance annoys me with city stuff if you can't tell  :shakesfist:
You're getting taxed for every post you make, phil!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2016, 09:57:39 AM
I love you guys... Thanks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 04, 2016, 11:06:46 AM
Goddamnit I am paying $12 for the Sprint Center this weekend just for renting a car. What the eff, KC? I don't need to subsidize the next Def Leppard concert to go see my parents
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on May 04, 2016, 11:20:07 AM
Goddamnit I am paying $12 for the Sprint Center this weekend just for renting a car. What the eff, KC? I don't need to subsidize the next Def Leppard concert to go see my parents

More than you know... more than you know.

Pour some sugar on me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 04, 2016, 01:03:53 PM
hate to break up the Clams & Phil lovefest...

Anyone have a good contact or pro tip on transportation for about 15 people to Kauffman & back?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2016, 01:14:41 PM
hate to break up the Clams & Phil lovefest...

Anyone have a good contact or pro tip on transportation for about 15 people to Kauffman & back?

Agenda KC if you want a nicer trip... One of those shitty party buses if you don't care to impress.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
If only the streetcar went there.  :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 04, 2016, 01:27:40 PM
hate to break up the Clams & Phil lovefest...

Anyone have a good contact or pro tip on transportation for about 15 people to Kauffman & back?

Agenda KC if you want a nicer trip... One of those shitty party buses if you don't care to impress.

I'd entertain both ends of the spectrum...Any good contact info on the latter?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
If only the streetcar went there.  :bang:

Cheaper to build a stadium downtown. Have the outfield transition into the river so there aren't any home runs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2016, 01:54:15 PM
hate to break up the Clams & Phil lovefest...

Anyone have a good contact or pro tip on transportation for about 15 people to Kauffman & back?

Agenda KC if you want a nicer trip... One of those shitty party buses if you don't care to impress.

I'd entertain both ends of the spectrum...Any good contact info on the latter?

Have only used agenda... No idea which party bus is less crap than others.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 04, 2016, 01:54:58 PM
hate to break up the Clams & Phil lovefest...

Anyone have a good contact or pro tip on transportation for about 15 people to Kauffman & back?

Agenda KC if you want a nicer trip... One of those shitty party buses if you don't care to impress.

I'd entertain both ends of the spectrum...Any good contact info on the latter?

overland limousine is not shitty, have used many times. mostly for bach parties
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2016, 05:18:47 PM
Kc streetcar pak.... I'm buying rides all weekend.  :cheers: :excited: :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 05, 2016, 06:44:45 PM
My Family Spaghetti Monster, the fact that baseball isn't downtown is, sad.   No wonder the K is repeatedly rated the worst neighborhood/bar/party scene in the MLB, literally holding the title every single year.    The only saving grace is it's not a donut stadium of yore.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2016, 07:32:17 PM
It was actually ranked #1 best stadium in the MLB recently. By some site. Deal with it, Dax! :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2016, 07:33:05 PM
It's an $8 uber ride from downtown too. :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on May 05, 2016, 08:42:46 PM
How much to get back after the game?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2016, 09:44:08 PM
How much to get back after the game?
$16 at the most on sure charge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 05, 2016, 09:58:20 PM
You guys UberPool or what?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 05, 2016, 10:03:13 PM
It was actually ranked #1 best stadium in the MLB recently. By some site. Deal with it, Dax! :gocho:

The stadium, the area around it is possibly the worst situation in MLB, and possibly in professional sports.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2016, 10:07:35 PM
Dax isn't an itt tech fan apparently
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2016, 11:13:55 PM
You guys UberPool or what?

No  :shakesfist: and Wacks is way off on the uber price.  I've never paid under $15 for the same trip.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2016, 11:43:22 PM
It was actually ranked #1 best stadium in the MLB recently. By some site. Deal with it, Dax! :gocho:

The stadium, the area around it is possibly the worst situation in MLB, and possibly in professional sports.

Downtown stadiums are probably the most overrated thing in the history of overrated things
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 08:26:02 AM
Phil, be sure not to wear gym shorts when you get on the streetcar today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 08:36:54 AM
Location stadium debates are the funniest thing ever. Like, wtf else do you have to do before going to the game? Oh you wanna drink/tailgate?! Good rough ridin' news then, it's 2016 and a bunch of your friends in blue are doing the same thing out in the parking lot and have their TV's setup. eff tho, it's 8 minutes from downtown.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 06, 2016, 08:41:50 AM
Downtown stadiums really are better tho.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 06, 2016, 08:46:28 AM
you can't really argue that there is nothing around The K.  So if you like to tailgate it's great, if you'd rather eat/drink somewhere else before the game, it's not great.  WOW!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 08:47:29 AM
Downtown stadiums really are better tho.  :frown:
Why? Because you see skyscrapers in the background? Downtown KC was dead less than 15 years ago. I totally get why they didn't want to put the stadium there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 08:48:43 AM
you can't really argue that there is nothing around The K.  So if you like to tailgate it's great, if you'd rather eat/drink somewhere else before the game, it's not great.  WOW!
There's a subway and taco bell across the street!  :curse: Also, some good bbq down the road. We're rough ridin' white midwesterners, we love to tailgate.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 06, 2016, 08:49:04 AM
the last 2 falls, having the parking lots full 3 hours before every playoff game, and people paking their faces off, was pretty damn fun, so I can see why dadjones is pissed about that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 08:50:07 AM
Also, name a restaurant downtown that you rough ridin' crave. Answer: you can't It's filled with garbage chain restaurants. The closest thing that I crave from my place is grinders and Margaritas. I have to get in my car for that.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 06, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
Downtown stadiums really are better tho.  :frown:
Why? Because you see skyscrapers in the background? Downtown KC was dead less than 15 years ago. I totally get why they didn't want to put the stadium there.

It's a feel thing.  Like you know it in your balls that it is better.  I'm not denigrating Kauffman tho, I like Kauffman.  But most of what Kauffman has is pretty good fans to inject the energy.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 08:51:25 AM
the last 2 falls, having the parking lots full 3 hours before every playoff game, and people paking their faces off, was pretty damn fun, so I can see why dadjones is pissed about that.
:thumbs: Plus, North Carolina doesn't have a MLB team, so that must infuriate him, when he lives in the best state ever built in America!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 08:52:57 AM
great job dax
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 08:53:09 AM
Downtown stadiums really are better tho.  :frown:
Why? Because you see skyscrapers in the background? Downtown KC was dead less than 15 years ago. I totally get why they didn't want to put the stadium there.

It's a feel thing.  Like you know it in your balls that it is better.  I'm not denigrating Kauffman tho, I like Kauffman.  But most of what Kauffman has is pretty good fans to inject the energy.
Trust me, I get it. Maybe i'm just a downtown grump. Like, PNL was the tits when I was 25 and single, but now I want nothing to do with it. The stadium downtown would obviously be better, but it doesn't take away from my experience. If anything, I save a few bucks by it being out there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 06, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
You guys UberPool or what?
Have you become a convert after you first went a little poorly?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 06, 2016, 09:16:35 AM
Downtown stadiums really are better tho.  :frown:
Why? Because you see skyscrapers in the background? Downtown KC was dead less than 15 years ago. I totally get why they didn't want to put the stadium there.

It's a feel thing.  Like you know it in your balls that it is better.  I'm not denigrating Kauffman tho, I like Kauffman.  But most of what Kauffman has is pretty good fans to inject the energy.
Trust me, I get it. Maybe i'm just a downtown grump. Like, PNL was the tits when I was 25 and single, but now I want nothing to do with it. The stadium downtown would obviously be better, but it doesn't take away from my experience. If anything, I save a few bucks by it being out there.

When the Royals sucked, it was bad.  That's the downside.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 06, 2016, 09:19:08 AM
i would not enjoy the traffic a downtown stadium would cause
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 09:19:48 AM
Woof! It's already a crap show down there when they have a small convention. I want to fight ppl.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 06, 2016, 09:19:55 AM
You guys UberPool or what?
Have you become a convert after you first went a little poorly?

Last night was a good one! Didn't end up having another passenger.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160506/b66843770abe2b97dd6f92237bf3d6c7.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 06, 2016, 09:20:33 AM
also happy streetbus day everyone. stay safe and remember that just because theres something in the way does not mean they will stop.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2016, 09:41:44 AM
You guys UberPool or what?
Have you become a convert after you first went a little poorly?

Last night was a good one! Didn't end up having another passenger.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160506/b66843770abe2b97dd6f92237bf3d6c7.jpg)

I've had that happen. I feel bad for the driver when it does.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 06, 2016, 09:44:08 AM
It was her screwup so I didn't feel too bad. She was supposed to pick up the other person first, and started their trip without picking them up...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 06, 2016, 10:16:27 AM
I don't feel bad about it at all.  In fact, it makes my day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2016, 10:56:21 AM
I don't feel bad about it at all.  In fact, it makes my day.

I feel bad because I'm assuming the driver is losing money on the trip. I'm not sure if that's true, but I know Uber is kind of shitty to its drivers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 10:59:35 AM
I don't feel bad about it at all.  In fact, it makes my day.

I feel bad because I'm assuming the driver is losing money on the trip. I'm not sure if that's true, but I know Uber is kind of shitty to its drivers.
They really are. I'd say 4/5 drivers usually bitch to me about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2016, 12:16:30 PM
I have paid for other's ubers but have still never personally ubered. Neat huh?  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
I have paid for other's ubers but have still never personally ubered. Neat huh?  :)

Just like Derek Jeter
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2016, 12:20:18 PM
I have paid for other's ubers but have still never personally ubered. Neat huh?  :)

Just like Derek Jeter

No gift baskets tho, I'm not made of money
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 06, 2016, 12:22:42 PM
I don't feel bad about it at all.  In fact, it makes my day.

Probably bc you're a pos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 06, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
I don't feel bad about it at all.  In fact, it makes my day.

Probably bc you're a pos
The only reason I uber is because it's cheaper than a cab.  The only reason I uberpool is because it's cheaper than uberx.

Why should I feel guilty if I luck out and get a relatively quick ride to boot?

Full disclosure, I've sat through some ungodly long uberpool trips before.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2016, 12:38:22 PM
I would never uberpool. Never
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 06, 2016, 12:39:44 PM
You're a pos dlew, I don't need to explain myself, u already did
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 12:50:09 PM
any self respecting kansas citian (downtown especially) should be able to recognize who the dome in the foreground belongs to

(http://oi65.tinypic.com/308xlw5.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 06, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
How was he supposed to remedy it carnes?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 06, 2016, 12:51:30 PM
You're a pos dlew, I don't need to explain myself, u already did
noted, resident authority on morality, Kim Carnes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 12:52:14 PM
#blessed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
why should DLew GAF about uber drivers? very few of them are college grads
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 06, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
I don't feel bad about it at all.  In fact, it makes my day.

I feel bad because I'm assuming the driver is losing money on the trip. I'm not sure if that's true, but I know Uber is kind of shitty to its drivers.
They are voluntarily working for Uber. If they don't like it, they can quit, but I won't feel bad for using the service.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 06, 2016, 01:00:57 PM
any self respecting kansas citian (downtown especially) should be able to recognize who the dome in the foreground belongs to

(http://oi65.tinypic.com/308xlw5.jpg)

I'm saying Al Latta
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 01:01:34 PM
why should DLew GAF about uber drivers? very few of them are college grads
Carnes is #zapping all of you. Do you really think he gives a eff?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 01:04:52 PM
why should DLew GAF about uber drivers? very few of them are college grads
Carnes is #zapping all of you.

is that what's happening here?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 01:06:58 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 01:10:20 PM
belvis, it's not Al Latta. i don't even know who that is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 01:13:08 PM
That's an awful picture, mocat.  :dunno: Some old guy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 01:14:26 PM
yeah it's pretty bad. he works for the news and is at the quaff a lot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 01:15:30 PM
Is that Fanning?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on May 06, 2016, 01:20:17 PM
michael mahoney?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2016, 01:21:53 PM
belvis, it's not Al Latta. i don't even know who that is

Al Latta is (or was) the lounge singer at Cigar Box
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 01:31:45 PM
michael mahoney?

Cire, you are officially a self-respecting kansas citian
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 01:34:45 PM
A lot of KC celebs frequent at the quaff. Including myself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 06, 2016, 01:36:46 PM
I was going to guess one of oscar Willis' character's disguises in the Jackal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2016, 01:42:15 PM
Mocat might lose his millennial status for not only knowing who newspaper people are but also knowing what they look like
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 06, 2016, 01:44:30 PM
Guys it is weird that Dlew gets a high off of an uber driver getting screwed even if it was their own fault.  I would feel bad for the driver bc apparently I am a quality human being who thinks about others versus getting joy out of the misfortune of others.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 06, 2016, 01:46:56 PM
Stadium talking points are absolutely fantastic, and it's absolutely so very WMW'ernee to enjoy large asphalt parking lots, and wonder if they'll be good parking.   Oh my  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 01:50:16 PM
Mocat might lose his millennial status for not only knowing who newspaper people are but also knowing what they look like

he's not a newspaper person. i grew up watching him on TV
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 01:52:12 PM
Not having an mlb team absolutely infuriates dax.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2016, 01:52:55 PM
I don't feel bad about it at all.  In fact, it makes my day.

I feel bad because I'm assuming the driver is losing money on the trip. I'm not sure if that's true, but I know Uber is kind of shitty to its drivers.
They are voluntarily working for Uber. If they don't like it, they can quit, but I won't feel bad for using the service.

was this a serious response or a parody of some argument in the pit?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 06, 2016, 01:53:09 PM
Not having an mlb team absolutely infuriates dax.  :frown:

Any perceived negativity towards anything KC sends WT into a total  :curse: 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 06, 2016, 01:53:59 PM
Not having an mlb team absolutely infuriates dax.  :frown:

wait, does Dax = La Canfora?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 01:55:17 PM
Dax misses home so much. It's so sad.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 06, 2016, 01:58:41 PM
I don't feel bad about it at all.  In fact, it makes my day.

I feel bad because I'm assuming the driver is losing money on the trip. I'm not sure if that's true, but I know Uber is kind of shitty to its drivers.
They are voluntarily working for Uber. If they don't like it, they can quit, but I won't feel bad for using the service.

was this a serious response or a parody of some argument in the pit?

Probably somewhere in between.  It's a statement that pretty accurately describes my views though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 06, 2016, 02:02:13 PM
if you're sitting in an uber pool hoping the driver gets another call/pickup, you're a freak
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 02:03:10 PM
Fine. I'll be the one to ask what everyone else is thinking. Wtf is an uber pool?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 06, 2016, 02:03:52 PM
nobody else is thinking that, wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 06, 2016, 02:05:04 PM
Dax misses home so much. It's so sad.  :frown:

Nah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 02:07:01 PM
nobody else is thinking that, wacky
<------ small brain
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 06, 2016, 02:08:54 PM
It's uber but you share with other riders and have to go along alternate routes to drop other people off.  Like a car pool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 02:11:51 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qSIk5O_HjKQ/VEa01Ad8ROI/AAAAAAAAOF4/a8QeELqYNjE/s1600/matthew_lillard.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 06, 2016, 02:17:43 PM
Dax misses home so much. It's so sad.  :frown:

Nah

dad misses good bbq, The K, and endless lots of asphalt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2016, 02:21:30 PM
Mocat might lose his millennial status for not only knowing who newspaper people are but also knowing what they look like

he's not a newspaper person. i grew up watching him on TV

TV? Lol, I don't you're helping yourself
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2016, 02:33:21 PM
if you're sitting in an uber pool hoping the driver gets another call/pickup, you're a freak

It isn't freakish to feel some degree of empathy for someone being paid less than $5 for a 5+mile ride that took over 20 minutes, even if it's something they signed up for.

I suppose as a passenger calling for an UberPool you are signing up for the possibility that no one else gets picked up, but I didn't realize you could take an UberPool and not have any other pickups until it happened. I'll probably just do UberX or Lyft from now on just to be safe. (At least w/ Lyft you can tip in the app)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
Also, name a restaurant downtown that you rough ridin' crave. Answer: you can't It's filled with garbage chain restaurants. The closest thing that I crave from my place is grinders and Margaritas. I have to get in my car for that.  :frown:

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 06, 2016, 02:42:28 PM
Isn't dlew an attorney?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2016, 02:44:07 PM
Guys... I rode the first 801 train containing normal people. Felt great. Took it one stop, got off and ate at extra virgin. Took bus back to condo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 03:00:06 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qSIk5O_HjKQ/VEa01Ad8ROI/AAAAAAAAOF4/a8QeELqYNjE/s1600/matthew_lillard.gif)
:lol: :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 03:01:07 PM
Also, name a restaurant downtown that you rough ridin' crave. Answer: you can't It's filled with garbage chain restaurants. The closest thing that I crave from my place is grinders and Margaritas. I have to get in my car for that.  :frown:

 :dubious:
Name some of your favorite places downtown. I might count BRGR
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 06, 2016, 03:39:04 PM
I took uberpool once in miami and got the impression the driver comes out ahead, even accounting for a few glitches where they'd have to give a solo rider a discounted pool rate ride.  I only took it because it was bar closing time and I thought odds were it would lead to seeing some funny stuff.  It didn't.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on May 06, 2016, 03:53:23 PM
The feeling bad for getting a solo uberpool ride is dumb, do you think the uber driver feels bad for you when you are paying surge pricing?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 06, 2016, 04:00:53 PM
I think I'm with carnes. dlew comes off looking kind of like a jerk here, but hey what's new?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2016, 04:28:16 PM
Also, name a restaurant downtown that you rough ridin' crave. Answer: you can't It's filled with garbage chain restaurants. The closest thing that I crave from my place is grinders and Margaritas. I have to get in my car for that.  :frown:

 :dubious:
Name some of your favorite places downtown. I might count BRGR

Food only?
Rieger, extra virgin, tannin, IL lazzone, Bristol, novel, antons, town topic, zaina, Farmhouse, majestic, le frou frog, Los tules, peanut, mixx

Off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 06, 2016, 04:29:01 PM
somebody get wacky a body bag
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 04:31:59 PM
 :lol:

Also, this happened today.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/31908114/police-arrest-man-after-chase-through-independence
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2016, 04:35:26 PM
Pierpont's, pizza Bella, Milwaukee deli, Johnny's, cleaver and cork, Grinders, that middle eastern place in river market, that Vietnamese place in river market, Bo lings, Jack stack, Lidias, affare, Westside local, La Bodega.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 04:37:02 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 04:39:20 PM
Pierpont's, pizza Bella, Milwaukee deli, Johnny's, cleaver and cork, Grinders, that middle eastern place in river market, that Vietnamese place in river market, Bo lings, Jack stack, Lidias, affare, Westside local, La Bodega.

habashi house. streetcar'd there for lunch today  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 04:40:55 PM
Good grief, Phil. Do you spend a $100 a tab every time you go out?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Good grief, Phil. Do you spend a $100 a tab every time you go out?

my schawarma (sp?) was like $7, wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2016, 04:45:49 PM
I know, but like half the places he listed are like $$$$$ restaurants.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 06, 2016, 04:46:26 PM
my schawarma (sp?) was like $7, wacky

what kind of chz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 06, 2016, 04:46:32 PM
My point is, assuming you order an uber pool, knowing full well what uber pool is, and are hoping that your driver gets a call to go off your route to pick somebody up, then...I just don't get it.

If you feel sympathetic for uber pool drivers, then feel free to tip them or take an uber x or whatever you want to do.  But the pool service is provided and each time I get in the car, I hope we don't have to pick anyone up.  The vast majority of the time, we end up picking up 2 or 3 other people and drop people off and sometimes have to pick others up after that.  I get that and i'm not pissed or anything when that happens because that's kind of the gamble of taking pool.  if you don't want to take the gamble, then you pay roughly triple what you would in the pool.  But when it doesn't happen, I have a hearty internal fist pump.

If that makes me a dick then I guess I'm a dick.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 06, 2016, 04:49:43 PM
Also, UberPool is reserved for being at least a 3
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
Sorry Nara. Forgot you.

Oh and wacky :kstategrad:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2016, 05:12:10 PM
My point is, assuming you order an uber pool, knowing full well what uber pool is, and are hoping that your driver gets a call to go off your route to pick somebody up, then...I just don't get it.

well yeah that's not what anyone suggested
My point is, assuming you order an uber pool, knowing full well what uber pool is, and are hoping that your driver gets a call to go off your route to pick somebody up, then...I just don't get it.

If you feel sympathetic for uber pool drivers, then feel free to tip them or take an uber x or whatever you want to do.  But the pool service is provided and each time I get in the car, I hope we don't have to pick anyone up.  The vast majority of the time, we end up picking up 2 or 3 other people and drop people off and sometimes have to pick others up after that.  I get that and i'm not pissed or anything when that happens because that's kind of the gamble of taking pool.  if you don't want to take the gamble, then you pay roughly triple what you would in the pool.  But when it doesn't happen, I have a hearty internal fist pump.

If that makes me a dick then I guess I'm a dick.

The fact that you don't consider the driver says a lot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 06, 2016, 05:18:42 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, the driver doesn't have to sign up to do pools.  And goodness, get off your high horse, of course I acknowledge that if we don't get other pool riders, it sucks for the driver. 

But Im not going to feel guilty because I happened to get a lucky draw.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2016, 12:15:27 AM
ugghh, joyriding streetcar people.  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 07, 2016, 10:37:50 AM
that unicorn clams found was awesome  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 09, 2016, 05:10:38 AM
Didn't get a picture but gates C 80-85 are a disaster at MCI this morning. No precheck and a huge line. Can't imagine why anyone would be against centralizing the security checkpoints if this is a regular occurrence.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2016, 08:48:02 AM
It is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on May 09, 2016, 09:46:09 AM
Got some meat at The Local Pig in KC this weekend.  Their 14 day dry aged burger is probably the best I've ever had.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 09, 2016, 11:57:07 AM
I need a good food recommendation for this Friday between 5:00 and first pitch at the K. Location needs to be somewhere in between Overland Park and the stadium. I will nut punch whichever one of you dickheads says LC's BBQ.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 09, 2016, 12:03:25 PM
Pick up some leawood joe's kc and eat at the stad p-lot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on May 09, 2016, 01:27:41 PM
Denny's in Raytown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 09, 2016, 01:30:52 PM
Package of bubba burgers from target.  Saul will meet you at the lot with a grill.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 09, 2016, 04:30:58 PM
I will make you a grilled cheese but it's really out of the way
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2016, 06:10:21 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-citys-new-smart-city-kiosk-hacked-to-play-solitaire

lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2016, 06:54:40 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-citys-new-smart-city-kiosk-hacked-to-play-solitaire

lol

"hacked" lol.  99% sure that's a bored tech.  They are working on them all still, I don't think a one of them really functions yet.  As of now they are idiotic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
I need a good food recommendation for this Friday between 5:00 and first pitch at the K. Location needs to be somewhere in between Overland Park and the stadium. I will nut punch whichever one of you dickheads says LC's BBQ.
Sobahn.  Korean.  It's on shawnee mission parkway about 3 miles west of plaza area.  Really good dolsot bibimbap  bibimbap.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2016, 09:08:33 AM
I forgot to post this for KCFDcat. This was at the beerfest down by the river this last weekend.(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160511/11919bd9806756f9f29f1e0e4d155fef.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 11, 2016, 09:13:45 AM
Sweet!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
My group really enjoyed it!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2016, 09:49:25 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/13/aviation/tsa-long-lines-us-airports/

hey dumbasses, build a billion dollar airport and this all goes away
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2016, 09:58:16 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/13/aviation/tsa-long-lines-us-airports/

hey dumbasses, build a billion dollar airport and this all goes away

This is where clams and I agree 100%. The security lines as they are now are the shortest possible setup. There are like 15 different lines. Going to one giant line somehow makes it faster? Gtfoomf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 14, 2016, 10:10:12 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/13/aviation/tsa-long-lines-us-airports/

hey dumbasses, build a billion dollar airport and this all goes away

This is where clams and I agree 100%. The security lines as they are now are the shortest possible setup. There are like 15 different lines. Going to one giant line somehow makes it faster? Gtfoomf

15 security check lines is a superb example of government waste. Brownback should set the TSA straight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2016, 10:22:32 AM
Oh its absolutely inefficient from their standpoint, but the lines are super short
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 14, 2016, 11:36:22 AM
Having wackycat walk up and sit next to you at the harrahs poker table.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Mci uses private security, not tsa  :th_twocents:

Also lots of places are mumped on lines this summer because like basically  no one signed up for pre check but they downsized tsa staff on projections that way more people would have it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2016, 12:50:51 PM
Why do they wear tsa stuff then?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 14, 2016, 01:20:43 PM
Oh its absolutely inefficient from their standpoint, but the lines are super short

I think everyone recognizes that the security situation in kc is great except Phil who is a giant dumbass and apparently never travels anywhere ever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2016, 01:45:50 PM
Why do they wear tsa stuff then?

Only a few airports use private security

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/12/16/akal-security-tsa-screening-kci-airport.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 12:16:22 PM
Go check out KCI tomorrow AM and report back how well the airport can handle demand.

No doubt when you seperate security into 20 lines it's  going to be shorter lines at each.  A new terminal with centralized security isn't going to turn into ORD lines though....it will be like PDX or AUS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 12:52:32 PM
i'm just saying that i bet if we spent a billion dollars things would probably be better than they currently are.  and if every city did the same, there would never be lines anywhere.  because lines, really? is this the year 2000 or something?  ain't nobody got no time for no damn lines.  crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 01:07:02 PM
Lines are the future.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 01:26:08 PM
Timely

https://mobile.twitter.com/DeborahNorville/status/731140289314852864
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 01:30:07 PM
here's another timely one

https://twitter.com/jenfulwiler/status/731874203108937729
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 01:31:35 PM
yikes, lines!

https://twitter.com/WVDani/status/731437853918547968
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
https://twitter.com/TalalJabari/status/723291011271786496
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 01:33:52 PM
shirley has some tips to avoid long lizines

https://twitter.com/moviechick707/status/601844592275759104
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 01:35:49 PM
Pretty good argument comparing new KCI to JFK and ORD. Do Heathrow next!!! Definitely a great comparison. You are good at this!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 01:40:46 PM
lines at an airport? who'd thunk it??!!12

and what's the deal with traffic during rush hour?  puzzling ass crap here, folks.

went to the costco last thursday and you guessed it. rough ridin' lines.  they are so clueless.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2016, 01:40:53 PM
You guys are stupid.
Phil your photo was not of a security line. Clams your photos were of the busiest airports in the world
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 01:42:50 PM
the point, for the obtuse, is that there are lines at airports, big and small, old and new.  especially during the busiest time of the day.  and the busiest day of the week.  deal with it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 01:53:25 PM
the point, for the obtuse, is that there are lines at airports, big and small, old and new.  especially during the busiest time of the day.  and the busiest day of the week.  deal with it.

Might run this comment by team "do nothing"... They want everyone to believe current KCI had no lines.. Don't fall out of line!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 01:54:43 PM
You guys are stupid.
Phil your photo was not of a security line. Clams your photos were of the busiest airports in the world

No crap. Our current airport is inadequate in basically every aspect... That tweet included.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 15, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
i will be flying out of mci tonight and will report back.

#teamdonothing

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 15, 2016, 02:25:32 PM
The question is: why are lines all of a sudden worse than normal.  The answer at many locations sounds like it is quantity of employees.  Building a new billion dollar airport just so we can roll a few employees short is stupid.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on May 15, 2016, 02:26:45 PM
I mean, if the airports are having issues with customer satisfaction, maybe they just need to hire a few ppl back?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 02:53:23 PM
The question is: why are lines all of a sudden worse than normal.  The answer at many locations sounds like it is quantity of employees.  Building a new billion dollar airport just so we can roll a few employees short is stupid.

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Seems like some sort of airline vs. TSA fight going on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 15, 2016, 02:58:52 PM
I already told you guys. Tsa expected way more people to sign up for pre check and downsized staff accordingly. Turns out barely a fraction of people signed up for it and now everyone is mumped while they try to train people which won't have any effect until end of summer.

KC lines are just random and has always happened.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 15, 2016, 03:06:08 PM
louisville, one of the busiest airports in the world
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 15, 2016, 03:07:18 PM
For someone in Olathe-ish, what's the time and cost stats on using MHK instead of MCI?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 03:16:33 PM
louisville, one of the busiest airports in the world
you realize what company is located there right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 15, 2016, 03:17:27 PM
louisville, one of the busiest airports in the world
you realize what company is located there right?
yes this has a major impact on their security lines
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 15, 2016, 03:18:39 PM
Slugger, whiskey, seafood, the main PNL? :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 03:41:20 PM
louisville, one of the busiest airports in the world
you realize what company is located there right?
yes this has a major impact on their security lines
it's a busy airport is all that I was saying
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 15, 2016, 03:44:44 PM
louisville, one of the busiest airports in the world
you realize what company is located there right?
yes this has a major impact on their security lines
it's a busy airport is all that I was saying
I'm saying it's very comparable to mci
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 15, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
It has better eating options inside security by a long shot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 04:10:51 PM
louisville, one of the busiest airports in the world
you realize what company is located there right?
yes this has a major impact on their security lines
it's a busy airport is all that I was saying
I'm saying it's very comparable to mci

mci 2015 passengers- 10,472,461
sdf 2015 passengers- 3,359,472
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 15, 2016, 04:13:57 PM
louisville, one of the busiest airports in the world
you realize what company is located there right?
yes this has a major impact on their security lines
it's a busy airport is all that I was saying
I'm saying it's very comparable to mci

mci 2015 passengers- 10,472,461
sdf 2015 passengers- 3,359,472
Damn. Do they all drive to Cincinnati or something? You'd think they would have shorter lines since only the busiest airports+mci have security lines in the summer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 04:23:27 PM
according to this site, mci's closest peer airports would be oakland, nashville, houston hobby, and austin

i really like what they've done with rdu

https://www.world-airport-codes.com/us-top-40-airports.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 04:24:52 PM
https://twitter.com/tm65/status/714426381560459265
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
https://twitter.com/MMMotoyoshi42/status/679384250429276160

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 04:27:00 PM
https://twitter.com/gbkean/status/710192152081342464
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 04:27:21 PM
https://twitter.com/AriansFetus/status/700815744162992128
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
i'll be here all day folks, #lines

https://twitter.com/djjustinjames/status/325990472931758080
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 15, 2016, 04:29:41 PM
Alright, enough shaming of phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2016, 04:30:32 PM
That's more like it, clams. I cant believe you posted ORD and JFK before
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
the point, for the obtuse, is that there are lines at airports, big and small, old and new.  especially during the busiest time of the day.  and the busiest day of the week.  deal with it.

We all agree on this...not sure what the twitter posts are attempting to prove....all airports have lines right now, including KCI.  This is not what #savekci folks are saying about our beautiful airport current layout.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 05:34:12 PM
oh man, :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 15, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
It took me 15 entire minutes to get through security.  Disgusting.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 15, 2016, 06:30:36 PM
It took me 15 entire minutes to get through security.  Disgusting.

Precheck your privilege
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 15, 2016, 06:50:49 PM
It took me 15 entire minutes to get through security.  Disgusting.

That's actually pretty long for mci
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 07:21:36 PM
while we're on the subject of how great mci is..circle parking- is there anything better in this world?  maybe a great kat pigskin win but man. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2016, 09:41:49 PM
while we're on the subject of how great mci is..circle parking- is there anything better in this world?  maybe a great kat pigskin win but man.

Nice alternative to when terminal parking is full.  Uber to the airport is the only way to go IMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2016, 10:29:13 PM
i never park in terminal, #teamcircle
also love the floors at mci, they have a very solid feel and are great for rollers.
i prefer to drive to the airport.  when i land i like to get into my own car and roar down the highway at very high rates of speed.  i usually am hungry and make a pit stop at one of my favorite kc restaurants and pick up carry out.  uber don't want to deal with my pussy assed hunger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 15, 2016, 10:36:28 PM
Drive to airport.....25 min.

Park in economy lots and wait for bus....10 min.

Take Bus to your terminal.... 10 min.

Go through security and arrive at your gate... 5/10 min.


From my house to the gate in less than 1 hr, love it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 15, 2016, 10:38:20 PM
how about a $1B chili's to go you idiot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 07:50:54 AM
I also am a circle lot afficionado
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 07:51:24 AM
Unless I'm paying for it myself of course, then econolot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 09:24:20 AM
what are the odds that I can uber to the airport saturday morning at like 3AM?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 09:43:17 AM
what are the odds that I can uber to the airport saturday morning at like 3AM?

i'm surge you could do that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 16, 2016, 09:54:21 AM
just use 5 guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on May 16, 2016, 12:01:41 PM
what are the odds that I can uber to the airport saturday morning at like 3AM?
sounds like a vacay, are you going international?  I am in couple a weeks all the TSA bullshit has me  :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 12:08:14 PM
Yeah


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on May 16, 2016, 03:02:41 PM
whose metal?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2016, 05:39:18 PM
Mci uses private security, not tsa  :th_twocents:

i wonder why the kc aviation department doesn't hire private security so that they can run tsa precheck on american's gates?  seems weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 17, 2016, 05:40:50 PM
they don't have the unicorn money yet :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2016, 08:10:44 PM
Mci uses private security, not tsa  :th_twocents:

i wonder why the kc aviation department doesn't hire private security so that they can run tsa precheck on american's gates?  seems weird.

We discussed this 100 pages back. Airlines pay that cost I thought we determined?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2016, 08:12:31 PM
and we've since learned that they don't.  gettin' better every day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2016, 10:36:27 PM
and we've since learned that they don't.  gettin' better every day.

We did?  I missed it. Shoot a brother a link.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on May 17, 2016, 11:06:20 PM
Lets just not have an airport. Would save the city a ton of money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 18, 2016, 10:11:32 AM
Decided that I'm going to take the MAX to work this summer. Will let you know of how this experiment works out! Started this morning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2016, 10:32:13 AM
brookside to crossroads?  how long did it take?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2016, 10:37:09 AM
I used to take the max from waldo to downtown, took about 35 mins
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2016, 11:01:06 AM
Google says it would take 2.5 hours to take a bus to 1 mile away from my work
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 18, 2016, 11:47:23 AM
brookside to crossroads?  how long did it take?
About 25 min
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2016, 12:50:23 PM
brookside to crossroads?  how long did it take?
About 25 min

Good idea.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 18, 2016, 02:48:43 PM
yes!  busses!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
how much TIF money did the taxpayers of KCMO give the businesses being developed along the toy train line?
millions :(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2016, 03:33:10 PM
They didn't give a dollar away that would have existed without the projects happening.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 18, 2016, 04:23:46 PM
I much preferred the fiscally responsible decaying surface lots and condemned buildings littering the toy train line to the recklessly financed shiny developments and new jobs being crammed down our throats by Sly. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2016, 04:29:43 PM
i mean we can and should have a debate about how loose we are with the TIF jar, but acting like it's money coming out of taxpayers' pockets is disingenuous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2016, 04:44:18 PM
i mean we can and should have a debate about how loose we are with the TIF jar, but acting like it's money coming out of taxpayers' pockets is disingenuous

Yup. TIF first of all needs to be tied to city strategic goals. If it doesn't help promote those goals, see ya developer. Adding funds into an East side development kitty was a nice move too IMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 18, 2016, 09:05:55 PM
kemper arena anyone?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 19, 2016, 11:58:54 AM
i mean we can and should have a debate about how loose we are with the TIF jar, but acting like it's money coming out of taxpayers' pockets is disingenuous
you're going down a slippery slope, pancho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 19, 2016, 12:35:01 PM
took one of my children on a ride on the streetcar choo choo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 19, 2016, 12:36:07 PM
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w299/dwyrens/2ND%20ALBUM/VIDEO/unicorn-1.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2016, 12:47:44 PM
Did they like it? Where did you go?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 19, 2016, 12:53:55 PM
Did they like it? Where did you go?

i guess. we went from union station to union station.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2016, 12:58:47 PM
Wow, pretty cool eagleeyesfor3!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 19, 2016, 06:33:55 PM
Just saw a united plane take off from downtown. Drugs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Maybe trans. Renocat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 19, 2016, 06:49:14 PM
Just saw a united plane take off from downtown. Drugs?

Papi and his merry band of Sox.  I'm sure they really enjoyed a night off in KC... Woof.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 19, 2016, 06:52:59 PM
Here we go midtown streetcar fans!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/article78702182.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 19, 2016, 09:11:57 PM
Here we go midtown streetcar fans!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/article78702182.html
OMG 'clams is going to lose his mind.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 19, 2016, 09:17:22 PM
Just saw a united plane take off from downtown. Drugs?

Papi and his merry band of Sox.  I'm sure they really enjoyed a night off in KC... Woof.

You gonna let this stand WT? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 19, 2016, 09:37:33 PM
Just saw a united plane take off from downtown. Drugs?

Papi and his merry band of Sox.  I'm sure they really enjoyed a night off in KC... Woof.

You gonna let this stand WT?

Nobody said your name 3 times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 19, 2016, 09:38:19 PM
Who is whiskey tango?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 19, 2016, 09:39:33 PM
Just saw a united plane take off from downtown. Drugs?

Papi and his merry band of Sox.  I'm sure they really enjoyed a night off in KC... Woof.

You gonna let this stand WT?

Nobody said your name 3 times.

I just want to make sure your huge slight of beautiful, dynamic and extremely hip Kansas City is seen by its great defender.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 19, 2016, 09:39:59 PM
Who is whiskey tango?

WackyTuck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 19, 2016, 09:40:51 PM
Ah, ok. Sorry sometimes i don't catch the slang of the greatest generation
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2016, 09:44:16 PM
Ah, ok. Sorry sometimes i don't catch the slang of the greatest generation

sad . . .
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 19, 2016, 09:45:52 PM
Just saw a united plane take off from downtown. Drugs?

Papi and his merry band of Sox.  I'm sure they really enjoyed a night off in KC... Woof.

You gonna let this stand WT?

Nobody said your name 3 times.

I just want to make sure your huge slight of beautiful, dynamic and extremely hip Kansas City is seen by its great defender.

This guy isn't paying attention.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 19, 2016, 09:46:15 PM
Ah, ok. Sorry sometimes i don't catch the slang of the greatest generation

sad . . .

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 20, 2016, 01:47:29 PM
great work by kcmo to declare the street car a success 3 weeks in
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 20, 2016, 01:48:22 PM
"hey guys obama and his grants are leaving soon so if were gonna pull another fast one on the citizens of kc we need to get another 3 miles of this obviously successful toy approved ASAP"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2016, 01:50:46 PM
It's a good plan really
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2016, 01:53:33 PM
great work by kcmo to declare the street car a success 3 weeks in
its marketing, trying to build momentum for the expansion

I hope I'm wrong about the thing but I really am never wrong so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 20, 2016, 02:01:41 PM
"hey guys obama and his grants are leaving soon so if were gonna pull another fast one on the citizens of kc we need to get another 3 miles of this obviously successful toy approved ASAP"

Its a great conspiracy theory but no way funding is secured by November. The original line funding didn't plan for any federal grants either, just a feather in the streetcar authority's hat when they came through.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
Well Obama is president until January but nice try there Phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 20, 2016, 02:20:16 PM
Caught me!  Actually those federal grants will probably be there for another year even past that... Or whenever the next budget is passed.

This expansion plan was always in the works to be released soon after phase 1 started rolling and people saw it in action... It has little to do with grabbing TIGER grants which is not something a plan can count on given all the competition for them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on May 20, 2016, 05:17:52 PM
Just saw a united plane take off from downtown. Drugs?

All charters use MKC, since it actually makes sense unlike MCI.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 21, 2016, 07:27:28 PM
Just thinking about how even more hip, cool, and fantastic KC would be if the main airport and baseball stadium were downtown.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2016, 03:54:40 PM
Streetcar down since around 320pm due to track issue at Union station. Must not be a quick fix as they have already deployed buses to fill in on the route.

Insert bus jokes here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 23, 2016, 04:21:32 PM
Just thinking about how even more hip, cool, and fantastic KC would be if the main airport and baseball stadium were downtown.

I don't know about the airport but, yeah, a downtown stadium would be pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2016, 04:23:29 PM
What about a stadium at the airport and layover people could get a outfield ticket or something for 10 bucks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: deputy dawg on May 23, 2016, 04:49:38 PM
An airplane crash during a game could make KC home to a spectacular mass casualty event.  (Stadium + airport downtown)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 23, 2016, 05:28:40 PM
Streetcar down since around 320pm due to track issue at Union station. Must not be a quick fix as they have already deployed buses to fill in on the route.

Insert bus jokes here.

17 straight days of not breaking isn't bad!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 26, 2016, 09:18:28 PM
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/736003074632749060
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on May 26, 2016, 10:11:23 PM
An airplane crash during a game could make KC home to a spectacular mass casualty event.  (Stadium + airport downtown)

Good thing there has never been an airport next to a city before!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 09:46:27 AM
Ms wacky and I are doing the zoo tomorrow. She makes these adorable noises and says "look at that little snuggle" every time she see's a puppy. I don't know what i'm about to walk into with a whole buffet of animals. I should probably wear a body condom tomorrow with all the adorableness she's about to see. Anyways, I haven't been in like 5 years. I hear they have a lot of cool new stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 27, 2016, 09:49:47 AM
the zoo has become worse than arrowhead, good luck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 09:53:20 AM
the zoo has become worse than arrowhead, good luck
  :frown: Probably because they started selling booze. Meet for a drink afterwards?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 27, 2016, 09:53:48 AM
wacky if you have any sense you'd go to Deanna Rose instead.  It's in Overland Park so very safe area. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 09:55:39 AM
wacky if you have any sense you'd go to Deanna Rose instead.  It's in Overland Park so very safe area.
First time i've heard of this. I don't think you understand how adorable Ms. Wacky is when she gets around animals. I need a big buffet of them to be satisfied. I'll fight off the riff raff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 09:56:52 AM
Like, if I wrote my own vows, that would probably be the first thing I said. I love it when you...... "make that adorable noise every time you see a puppy and say "look at that little snuggle"." It's so rough ridin' adorable!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 27, 2016, 09:58:50 AM
who is the guy "taking her to the zoo" if you haven't been in like 5 years? :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 27, 2016, 10:00:26 AM
wacky everyone annoyed that weird detail on purpose
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:01:27 AM
who is the guy "taking her to the zoo" if you haven't been in like 5 years? :ohno:
:ohno:

wacky everyone annoyed that weird detail on purpose
What weird detail?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 27, 2016, 10:04:17 AM
the zoo has become worse than arrowhead, good luck
  :frown: Probably because they started selling booze. Meet for a drink afterwards?

So I guess the zoo is another place you can't go with any other women.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 27, 2016, 10:10:36 AM
who is the guy "taking her to the zoo" if you haven't been in like 5 years? :ohno:
:ohno:

wacky everyone annoyed that weird detail on purpose
What weird detail?!
the part about how your ex-gf makes a weird sound every time she sees an animal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:15:02 AM
 :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 27, 2016, 10:17:40 AM
Is a fiancee consider to be an ex-gf????
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:18:32 AM
the zoo has become worse than arrowhead, good luck
  :frown: Probably because they started selling booze. Meet for a drink afterwards?

So I guess the zoo is another place you can't go with any other women.
Doesn't sound safe tbh. It would probably set off the hormones.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 10:20:29 AM
Is a fiancee consider to be an ex-gf????

Technically, I suppose
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 27, 2016, 10:20:59 AM
wife is too, I imagine
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 27, 2016, 10:24:18 AM
Love the zoo. Great times. Animals are very fascinating to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 27, 2016, 10:25:19 AM
wacky if you have any sense you'd go to Deanna Rose instead.  It's in Overland Park so very safe area.
First time i've heard of this. I don't think you understand how adorable Ms. Wacky is when she gets around animals. I need a big buffet of them to be satisfied. I'll fight off the riff raff.

At Deanna Rose you can bottle feed baby goats.  There is nothing more adorable than bottle feeding baby goats (IMO, of course).

(I might be obsessed with goats, no katdaddy.)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:30:58 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 10:36:28 AM
the zoo is better now than it has been in my lifetime. the chair lift over the entire africa section? holy crap man
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
the zoo is better now than it has been in my lifetime. the chair lift over the entire africa section? holy crap man
Yeah, that's what my coworker said. Sounds awesome!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 27, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
the zoo is better now than it has been in my lifetime. the chair lift over the entire africa section? holy crap man

I need to go to KC to go to the zoo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 10:41:42 AM
you just silently float right over giraffes and hippos and birds and other critters, as they are free to roam around a giant prairie land
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:42:40 AM
I never knew about the prairie dog bubble thingy too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 27, 2016, 10:44:14 AM
you just silently float right over giraffes and hippos and birds and other critters, as they are free to roam around a giant prairie land

Is there like size requirement?  Can like toddlers to this?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 10:49:26 AM
you just silently float right over giraffes and hippos and birds and other critters, as they are free to roam around a giant prairie land

Is there like size requirement?  Can like toddlers to this?

i don't think there are any size or age requirements
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 27, 2016, 11:02:39 AM
Hot damn mocat I will risk the riffraff for this elevated experience!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 11:04:45 AM
Hot damn mocat I will risk the riffraff for this elevated experience!   :cheers:
Told you!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 11:05:52 AM
it costs like $2 or something extra but obviously it is totally worth it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 27, 2016, 12:30:30 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article80192617.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article80192617.html)

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 27, 2016, 12:31:42 PM
I'm still upset at the zoo for letting Nikita go to another zoo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 12:32:42 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article80192617.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article80192617.html)

(http://orig06.deviantart.net/6e04/f/2012/173/d/d/unicorn_run_jump_cycle___adiian_by_dikkebobby-d54fnuu.gif)
That didn't last long.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 27, 2016, 01:05:27 PM
How long till your death trap of a street car kills someone?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 01:34:14 PM
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/05/26/slide-the-city-waterslide-kansas-city-event.html  :love: :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 01:35:15 PM
wait, a car (driven by a teenager) ran a red light into a streetcar and you guys are blaming the streetcar?  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 01:35:32 PM
Quote
Slide the City will transform a Kansas City hill into a water slide this summer.

On Tuesday, we reported that the Utah company that runs the event centered around a pair of 1,000-foot-long waterslides wouldn't be in the area but that three other cities in the region would host the event.

Slide the City will transform a Kansas City hill into a water slide this summer.
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Slide the City will transform a Kansas City hill into a water slide this summer.

SLIDE THE CITY

Sack Lunch Productions, which owns the Slide the City event, announced Wednesday that it would come to town on Aug. 6. The slide will be set up at Crown Center near the intersection of Pershing Road and 25th Street.

Slide the City is billed as a "slip-and-slide water party event" featuring music and food.

Prices will range from $10 for a single slide to $99 for a pass that allows unlimited slides throughout the day. Prices will increase as the events draw closer.

The other locations that also will transform their streets into slides this summer are:

St. Louis (July 9-10)
Springfield (July 16)
Wichita (Aug. 20)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 27, 2016, 01:43:38 PM
wait, a car (driven by a teenager) ran a red light into a streetcar and you guys are blaming the streetcar?  :lol:

I didn't blame anyone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on May 27, 2016, 01:45:09 PM
They did that slide thingy in Wichita last year and set it up on a somewhat flat street   :lol:

Quote
There were some issues with the slide. The terrain in Wichita is mostly flat, which did not help sliders move fast.

Many of the participants were pushed at some point along the slide by volunteer staff.
       
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 01:46:12 PM
wait, a car (driven by a teenager) ran a red light into a streetcar and you guys are blaming the streetcar?  :lol:

I didn't blame anyone.

i didn't say you did
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 01:46:40 PM
 :D We have big hills downtown tho. I think they'll be fine.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 27, 2016, 01:46:50 PM
how about you tell us how we can message board, cf3 :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 27, 2016, 01:49:26 PM
chodecat and chodebias strike again!!!  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 27, 2016, 01:50:38 PM
all we need is choden
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 01:50:58 PM
Tochodeias
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 27, 2016, 01:51:31 PM
i prefer chodebias
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 01:53:28 PM
That sounds like you have a bias toward chodes instead of indicating that you ARE a chode
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 01:53:49 PM
chodias is perfect
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 01:56:25 PM
chodias is perfect

I knew we could crowdsource this thing  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 27, 2016, 01:57:36 PM
great work bad persons :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 01:57:59 PM
another chode.  :driving: :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 27, 2016, 01:58:58 PM
chochochochochochode
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 02:00:14 PM
swing and a miss, echode
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 02:00:37 PM
Well that's not nice, emo chode
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 27, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
But guys how dumb does that slide think sound
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 02:01:29 PM
i still don't quite get the connection between calling someone out for being a monstrous dumbass and being a chode, but i have embraced it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 02:02:09 PM
I heard it's pretty gross chodefor3
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Winters on May 27, 2016, 02:03:11 PM
I want to be Chodeters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 02:03:48 PM
Wachodecat08?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 27, 2016, 02:04:15 PM
I want to be Chodeters
Start shitting up threads like Wacky then.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
I want to be Chodeters

Sounds like a trivia team name
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 02:07:47 PM
I want to be Chodeters
Start shitting up threads like Wacky then.
Hey, I can't tell, did you guys go on a trip to Seattle recently? I coulda swore I came across on something where you guys #fanningbrag about your epic trip to Seattle in every thread, goochode!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 02:13:52 PM
I want to be Chodeters

Sounds like a trivia team name

looks like chodeaters, is that what you were going for?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 02:14:35 PM
I want to be Chodeters
Start shitting up threads like Wacky then.
Hey, I can't tell, did you guys go on a trip to Seattle recently? I coulda swore I came across on something where you guys #fanningbrag about your epic trip to Seattle in every thread, goochode!
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 02:18:48 PM
wacky still wants to bang trim everybody
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 02:21:02 PM
wacky still wants to bang trim everybody
Well for a group of cronies that like to make fun of #fanningbragging, they sure do, do it a lot after a trip. Wow! You guys got drunk? Cool. Tell us about it again!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 27, 2016, 02:38:26 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article80192617.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article80192617.html)

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"

Quote
There were 10 passengers inside the streetcar.

hmm so for the second time in a week, the toy train gets into an accident and both times there were only 10 people on it?  with the thousands per day riding this stupid piece of crap (as reported by the streetcar folks), I guess KC is really lucking out from a potential liability aspect. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 27, 2016, 04:53:54 PM
Fellas...I GET to go to a concert at Sprint Center tonight.....Zac Brown Band!!!!!   :Crybaby:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
Fellas...I GET to go to a concert at Sprint Center tonight.....Zac Brown Band!!!!!   :Crybaby:
I've only been there for games. My first time being there for a non game will be for Louie CK in July.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 27, 2016, 04:56:17 PM
Fellas...I GET to go to a concert at Sprint Center tonight.....Zac Brown Band!!!!!   :Crybaby:
I've only been there for games. My first time being there for a non game will be for Louie CK in July.

I'm not sure i've been to a concert there.  I think I'm going to go get pak'd at Doubleshift prior.....via the streetcar!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 04:57:10 PM
 :thumbs: MS. wacky and I are trying to figure out where to go to HH.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fedor on May 27, 2016, 04:58:34 PM
wacky still wants to bang trim everybody
Well for a group of cronies that like to make fun of #fanningbragging, they sure do, do it a lot after a trip. Wow! You guys got drunk? Cool. Tell us about it again!
:ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 05:04:19 PM
Fellas...I GET to go to a concert at Sprint Center tonight.....Zac Brown Band!!!!!   :Crybaby:
I've only been there for games. My first time being there for a non game will be for Louie CK in July.

I'm not sure i've been to a concert there.  I think I'm going to go get pak'd at Doubleshift prior.....via the streetcar!

You and 9 other people omg lmfao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 27, 2016, 05:38:00 PM
Didnt even get hit by teenagers! DS is doing well too. Their solar winds pale is good!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
I heard it's pretty gross chodefor3

chodierfor3
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 08:26:41 PM
PMS cat, can you confirm you were in Seattle and took an Uber?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 08:29:07 PM
PMS cat, can you confirm you were in Seattle and took an Uber?

you clearly read the conversation I had with my friend, so why are you asking a question that you already know the answer to?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 08:32:56 PM
But did you guys get drunk? Was it amazing? We need these deets!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 08:38:58 PM
Have you ever heard Trim mention friends away from the board? Do you guys possibly think he flew you in for company?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 27, 2016, 09:03:15 PM
eff yeah, have another vodka wacky, this is gonna get get good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on May 27, 2016, 09:06:19 PM
I think the wedding pressure is getting to Wacky   :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2016, 09:23:03 PM
Wacky lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 10:38:50 PM
Have you ever heard Trim mention friends away from the board? Do you guys possibly think he flew you in for company?

you doing alright, dude?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 28, 2016, 12:31:34 AM
Shocking to report...worst concert ever attended.  This guy/band/group played more covers than his own songs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 28, 2016, 08:40:00 AM
I crushed it last night! :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 30, 2016, 03:21:56 PM
Ms. Wacky and I rented those bikes we have downtown today. It was a blast. Went by the river, both bottoms. Southwest traffic way to 39th street, came back on Broadway, went downtown, etc. great day for it. We had a blast and it was a great workout.????
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2016, 03:31:08 PM
That's a long ways.????
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 30, 2016, 03:33:43 PM
Yeah. It was great. Somewhere between 15-25 miles today. :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 30, 2016, 03:35:33 PM
.????
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on May 31, 2016, 06:40:02 AM
How do those work? I imagine like aldi where you put a quarter in to release it but you don't get your quarter back until you bring the bike back


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 08:31:30 AM
How do those work? I imagine like aldi where you put a quarter in to release it but you don't get your quarter back until you bring the bike back


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You put in your credit card information and then it releases the bike. When you put it back, it just locks automatically. So yes, very similar. It was pretty fun. I had a coworker who lives downtown too and him and his buddies do a bunch of brewery pub crawls on them. We looked at her app and we burned like near 2000 calories yesterday.  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 08:36:26 AM
You biked down SW Trafficway?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 08:41:35 AM
You biked down SW Trafficway?
By boulevard and margaritas in the bike lane and then we went up the big hill to 39th street by the KU medical center. Also, some very interesting places I didn't know about in both bottoms.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2016, 08:43:43 AM
did you two wear helmets, wacky?   :nono:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 08:43:51 AM
You biked down SW Trafficway?
By boulevard and margaritas in the bike lane and then we went up the big hill to 39th street by the KU medical center. Also, some very interesting places I didn't know about in both bottoms.
That's SW Blvd, wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 08:46:53 AM
That's what I meant. Whoops!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2016, 08:47:17 AM
most all of sw trafficway has sidewalk so it wouldn't be hard
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 08:47:56 AM
did you two wear helmets, wacky?   :nono:
No.  :frown: I felt bad when my hipster bike had signs on it like "Helmet hair is cool, when it saves a life" etc.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 08:54:36 AM
We went behind Kemper Arena and the American Royal building as well. Found a colony of bums behind there.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2016, 09:18:33 AM
Just remember to check them in every half hour (or hour if you have an annual pass)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2016, 09:21:12 AM
We went behind Kemper Arena and the American Royal building as well. Found a colony of bums behind there.  :frown:

any of them "banging"?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 09:21:45 AM
Just remember to check them in every half hour (or hour if you have an annual pass)
Yeah, I don't get that part. It said it charges us $3 for every 30 minutes. Looks like we just got charged $3 overall, but we were gone for 3 and a half hours.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 09:22:56 AM
Just remember to check them in every half hour (or hour if you have an annual pass)
Yeah, I don't get that part. It said it charges us $3 for every 30 minutes. Looks like we just got charged $3 overall, but we were gone for and 3 and half hours.
I wondered the same thing, Tobias, but I could only see a few of them and hear a few of them coughing in the woods. I BET THEY WERE THO!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 09:28:15 AM
most all of sw trafficway has sidewalk so it wouldn't be hard
That's not very safe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
neither is riding w/o a helmet but that didn't stop them
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 09:46:41 AM
We're monsters!  :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2016, 09:46:45 AM
might as well double down at that point
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 09:51:31 AM
I was bumping drake radio (Pandora) and placed my phone with the boom box thing in my basket. Ms. Wacky and I were passing ppl on sidewalks doing this. :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2016, 09:53:48 AM
kinda surprised you haven't invested in a bike considering where you live
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
kinda surprised you haven't invested in a bike considering where you live
Honestly, we run/walk so much around downtown, I've never even thought about it till this point. It was way more fun then doing those other two. I'll probably start looking into it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2016, 10:49:03 AM
Just remember to check them in every half hour (or hour if you have an annual pass)
Yeah, I don't get that part. It said it charges us $3 for every 30 minutes. Looks like we just got charged $3 overall, but we were gone for and 3 and half hours.

Its how these bike share systems are designed... They aren't necessarily there for all day joy rides... Rather point to point transportation.... Like I use them mostly to go QH to city market or crossroads.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on May 31, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
I would just do wheelies and crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 10:54:15 AM
I would just do wheelies and crap

this is basically how the ones in MHK are treated, then they get dumped on a sidewalk somewhere until someone else wants to do wheelies and crap with them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Pullen  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 10:56:32 AM
I popped a few yesterday when I had too, but it's kinda hard with the two baskets on them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 10:57:28 AM
How do baskets make wheelies difficult?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 10:58:27 AM
Pullen  :curse:

these things don't even have locks!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2016, 10:58:50 AM
the radio falls out if you get too vicious :(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 10:59:29 AM
the radio falls out if you get too vicious :(

All in the game
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 11:00:27 AM
Yup. Almost happened yesterday.  :frown: Can anyone guess what kind of Snow Cone I got when I got to 39th street? :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 31, 2016, 11:04:45 AM
Yup. Almost happened yesterday.  :frown: Can anyone guess what kind of Snow Cone I got when I got to 39th street? :surprised:

soy sauce
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 11:07:04 AM
 :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 31, 2016, 11:31:34 AM
tiger blood
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 11:32:27 AM
Plain
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 11:33:49 AM
It was pink lemonade. :lick:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 11:39:18 AM
Good choice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2016, 11:45:38 AM
How do baskets make wheelies difficult?

Not sure if it's the baskets but those bikes are like three times heavier than standard bikes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 01:03:23 PM
FTR @lib^7, this is what they look like. They're not meant for rip roaring down streets. They're meant for Macklemoring it up "downtown". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGhoLcsr8GA

(http://kc.bcycle.com/images/librariesprovider42/default-album/og-ridereturn-kcbcycle.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 02:42:24 PM
I only see one basket
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 02:43:43 PM
I only see one basket
Some of them have one on the front and one on the back. Some just have one on the front. Either way, that's bulkier than your average bike. Both Ms. Wacky and I had the two.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 02:44:59 PM
That Lee's summit mommy blog'r loves the crap out of those things
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 01, 2016, 09:25:33 AM
Parked the truck at 820, was through security (AA, no TSA pre) at 840.  :( 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 01, 2016, 09:55:52 AM
Parked the truck at 820, was through security (AA, no TSA pre) at 840.  :(

Family was dropped off at curb by uber yesterday morning at 5am and took 50 minutes between bag drop and security. No doubt security lines are short at KCI most of the time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 01, 2016, 10:39:41 AM
Parked the truck at 820, was through security (AA, no TSA pre) at 840.  :(

last Wednesday AM I took 15 minutes in Precheck, my wife took 5 in regular.     :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 01, 2016, 11:31:48 AM
southwest lines are always longer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 01, 2016, 03:57:17 PM
so i guess Broadway is going to be closed from 27th to 31st st until the end of July  :blank:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 02, 2016, 08:37:29 AM
Parked the truck at 820, was through security (AA, no TSA pre) at 840.  :(

Family was dropped off at curb by uber yesterday morning at 5am and took 50 minutes between bag drop and security. No doubt security lines are short at KCI most of the time.

(http://www.themillergroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/JCLdMDveAn.png?4be9bf)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2016, 01:03:27 PM
I saw a @Dlew look a like at Saints today at lunch with mom. It had to be a cousin or something. Identical good looking person.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2016, 01:19:53 PM
Quote
Craziest thing that will happen today... Or rather this month: had to stop on the highway because a naked guy was crossing south bound traffic on 71 in Grandview
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on June 02, 2016, 01:21:00 PM
I'm going to something called Char Bar this Saturday. We all got baby sitters and crap and gonna get turnt up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2016, 01:21:51 PM
I hope you have fun
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2016, 01:22:12 PM
take it to the Grandview thread wacky, sheesh (right lib^7? HAHAHA HIGH FIVE BUDDY WE AGREE ON EVERYTHING!)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2016, 01:22:39 PM
char bar, you will have fun, great place to PAK, decent grub
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2016, 01:22:58 PM
I'm going to something called Char Bar this Saturday. We all got baby sitters and crap and gonna get turnt up.

1. Burnt Heaven
2. crispy jo-jo potatoes (share with a friend)
3. profit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2016, 01:26:21 PM
take it to the Grandview thread wacky, sheesh (right lib^7? HAHAHA HIGH FIVE BUDDY WE AGREE ON EVERYTHING!)
;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2016, 01:28:05 PM
take it to the Grandview thread wacky, sheesh (right lib^7? HAHAHA HIGH FIVE BUDDY WE AGREE ON EVERYTHING!)

Just you me and 'blast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
'blast is his own individual. Don't you two try and tie him into this.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2016, 01:29:36 PM
We are indistinguishable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 02, 2016, 01:36:59 PM
I saw a @Dlew look a like at Saints today at lunch with mom. It had to be a cousin or something. Identical good looking person.
there's a guy who works at Charlie Hustle who looks a lot like me -- probably him.  not related. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on June 02, 2016, 07:02:16 PM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 02, 2016, 11:05:46 PM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?

I don't think he named names but yeah it seems he is the big stick pushing around for the residents.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 03, 2016, 08:11:22 AM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?

too soon, man. #ripharambe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 03, 2016, 08:44:05 AM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?
Yup. Same guy that has made my life miserable.

I have an email from him telling me that if I'm quoted in any of these articles he'll make sure I lose my license. I went ahead and forwarded that to my city council person. We're meeting with a city attorney next week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2016, 08:45:32 AM
Good grief. He sounds like a major bad person.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 03, 2016, 09:03:35 AM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?
Yup. Same guy that has made my life miserable.

I have an email from him telling me that if I'm quoted in any of these articles he'll make sure I lose my license. I went ahead and forwarded that to my city council person. We're meeting with a city attorney next week.

so he's not only an bad person, he's a DUMB bad person...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2016, 09:07:10 AM
I don't see how anybody is against this ordinance. One entity should not be able to play god

I don't get why Kansas city thinks they have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to these new "being a city" issues like bars vs residents in an urban neighborhood. There are literally hundreds of cities who have figured this out...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 03, 2016, 09:09:13 AM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?
Yup. Same guy that has made my life miserable.

I have an email from him telling me that if I'm quoted in any of these articles he'll make sure I lose my license. I went ahead and forwarded that to my city council person. We're meeting with a city attorney next week.

so he's not only an bad person, he's a DUMB bad person...
Yes. He very much does not realize how big of an issue this is. He really does think he's doing the right thing.

The biggest thing the blew my mind was that he wants to continue to dictate what businesses operate in a building after he's sold the property.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 03, 2016, 09:10:06 AM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?
Yup. Same guy that has made my life miserable.

I have an email from him telling me that if I'm quoted in any of these articles he'll make sure I lose my license. I went ahead and forwarded that to my city council person. We're meeting with a city attorney next week.

so he's not only an bad person, he's a DUMB bad person...
Yes. He very much does not realize how big of an issue this is. He really does think he's doing the right thing.

The biggest thing the blew my mind was that he wants to continue to dictate what businesses operate in a holding after he's sold the property.

what an egomaniac
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 03, 2016, 09:12:12 AM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?
Yup. Same guy that has made my life miserable.

I have an email from him telling me that if I'm quoted in any of these articles he'll make sure I lose my license. I went ahead and forwarded that to my city council person. We're meeting with a city attorney next week.

so he's not only an bad person, he's a DUMB bad person...
Yes. He very much does not realize how big of an issue this is. He really does think he's doing the right thing.

The biggest thing the blew my mind was that he wants to continue to dictate what businesses operate in a holding after he's sold the property.

what an egomaniac
He definitely is. What really sucks is that he owns a lot of surface parking lots that he refuses to sell for development. Which is why the crossroads will never grow to anything more than what it is. One guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 03, 2016, 09:36:23 AM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?
Yup. Same guy that has made my life miserable.

I have an email from him telling me that if I'm quoted in any of these articles he'll make sure I lose my license. I went ahead and forwarded that to my city council person. We're meeting with a city attorney next week.

so he's not only an bad person, he's a DUMB bad person...
Yes. He very much does not realize how big of an issue this is. He really does think he's doing the right thing.

The biggest thing the blew my mind was that he wants to continue to dictate what businesses operate in a holding after he's sold the property.

what an egomaniac
He definitely is. What really sucks is that he owns a lot of surface parking lots that he refuses to sell for development. Which is why the crossroads will never grow to anything more than what it is. One guy.


Sly will imminent domain his ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2016, 12:13:37 PM
Existential question: is crane porn still crane porn if the crane is being used to build a parking garage?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2016, 12:13:57 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160603/3edf916030838b0443e82df2b9b67663.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 03, 2016, 12:14:54 PM
I'll allow it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
I will never not love a crane pic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2016, 12:18:53 PM
The parking garage is being built on land that was formerly a parking garage
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 03, 2016, 01:12:34 PM
The parking garage is being built on land that was formerly a parking garage
KC in a nutshell
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
@KCFDCat: The new Pitch article about the Nicholson dude silverbacking new Crossroads business owners, didn't you mention him causing you headaches early on?
Yup. Same guy that has made my life miserable.

I have an email from him telling me that if I'm quoted in any of these articles he'll make sure I lose my license. I went ahead and forwarded that to my city council person. We're meeting with a city attorney next week.

thank goodness for jolie justus (4th district!)  while naysayers like phil totala talk smack on her, she represents the voice of the working man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2016, 01:56:02 PM
I don't see how anybody is against this ordinance. One entity should not be able to play god

I don't get why Kansas city thinks they have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to these new "being a city" issues like bars vs residents in an urban neighborhood. There are literally hundreds of cities who have figured this out...

because kansas city is a rough ridin' corrupt cowtown and has been since the time it was settled.  figure it out. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2016, 01:58:24 PM
Lol where have I ever spoke ill of Justus? Definitely my favorite council member.

You are trying to hard to fight clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2016, 01:59:37 PM
Lol where have I ever spoke ill of Justus? Definitely my favorite council member.

You are trying to hard to fight clams.

maybe when she opposed the airport crap?


this guy is trying to protect his tenants, that's all this is.  since kcfd doesn't rent from him, he doesn't want him there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2016, 02:01:12 PM
you said she was the worst/nuts

she finally ceded to sylvester but it took a fight

maybe i'm making this up but i'm pretty sure i'm not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2016, 02:02:54 PM
Nope. The burgers have gotten to you. Love her.

I know what he is trying to do..i don't know who where they 4k signatures are coming from to fight it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
you said she was the worst/nuts

she finally ceded to sylvester but it took a fight

maybe i'm making this up but i'm pretty sure i'm not.

You are thinking of loar. She is the worst. That was determined well before her airport craziness started. Apology accepted.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2016, 02:05:48 PM
you're right (for once)

my apologizes

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2016, 02:06:41 PM
It's a burgermania miracle!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2016, 02:08:21 PM
you're right (for once)

my apologizes

 :cheers:

Cheers buddy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 03, 2016, 03:40:08 PM
This thread is depressing.  U guys are way too absorbed in kc real estate development.  It's crazy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 03, 2016, 04:30:12 PM
Lol where have I ever spoke ill of Justus? Definitely my favorite council member.

You are trying to hard to fight clams.

maybe when she opposed the airport crap?


this guy is trying to protect his tenants, that's all this is.  since kcfd doesn't rent from him, he doesn't want him there.
Your uncanny ability to completely disagree with me surprises me on a daily basis. Well done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2016, 04:40:26 PM
Lol where have I ever spoke ill of Justus? Definitely my favorite council member.

You are trying to hard to fight clams.

maybe when she opposed the airport crap?


this guy is trying to protect his tenants, that's all this is.  since kcfd doesn't rent from him, he doesn't want him there.
Your uncanny ability to completely disagree with me surprises me on a daily basis. Well done.

huh? reread the thread....1000% on team KCFDcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 03, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
Lol where have I ever spoke ill of Justus? Definitely my favorite council member.

You are trying to hard to fight clams.

maybe when she opposed the airport crap?


this guy is trying to protect his tenants, that's all this is.  since kcfd doesn't rent from him, he doesn't want him there.
Your uncanny ability to completely disagree with me surprises me on a daily basis. Well done.

huh? reread the thread....1000% on team KCFDcat
Oh. I'm like super embarrassed. Free beers?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2016, 04:43:59 PM
Lol where have I ever spoke ill of Justus? Definitely my favorite council member.

You are trying to hard to fight clams.

maybe when she opposed the airport crap?


this guy is trying to protect his tenants, that's all this is.  since kcfd doesn't rent from him, he doesn't want him there.
Your uncanny ability to completely disagree with me surprises me on a daily basis. Well done.

huh? reread the thread....1000% on team KCFDcat
Oh. I'm like super embarrassed. Free beers?
brew a porter and I'll camp there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 06, 2016, 01:43:46 PM
Anybody else going to see Chappelle this Wednesday?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on June 06, 2016, 04:23:32 PM
Hahahahahaha you losers get a mid week show and ICT get the elite Saturday night double dip? Cross post to the things in Wichita that don't suck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 06, 2016, 04:26:32 PM
I'm going to Louie CK in early July instead. He's funnier.  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 06, 2016, 06:25:26 PM
Hahahahahaha you losers get a mid week show and ICT get the elite Saturday night double dip? Cross post to the things in Wichita that don't suck.

Sadly Dave doesn't deserve a weekend anymore...except in captive markets  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2016, 09:57:48 AM
https://twitter.com/jrmiller962/status/740908934802898944
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 09, 2016, 04:46:18 PM
You ready for some streetcar midtown?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on June 09, 2016, 05:07:31 PM
Spreading the death and mayhem to Midtown huh?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: RockState2000 on June 09, 2016, 05:10:44 PM
I'm going to Louie CK in early July instead. He's funnier.  :th_twocents:

Went to Chappelle. Going to Louis CK.

Chappelle was pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2016, 06:40:28 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 09, 2016, 07:32:14 PM
I'd think that 'clams is probably having a stroke right now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 09, 2016, 11:47:56 PM
Did 'clams miss the property tax???
(http://i.imgur.com/B0ysnRz.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 10, 2016, 12:16:31 AM
U kc guys need to stop creaming yourselves over public transportation. It's weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 10, 2016, 12:18:34 AM
Don't people think that the comedians do different shows in different towns?   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 10, 2016, 11:07:57 AM
U kc guys need to stop creaming yourselves over public transportation. It's weird.

true.  but, it's also weird that we don't have public transportation.  a light rail line shouldn't be news-worthy.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 10, 2016, 04:38:31 PM
U kc guys need to stop creaming yourselves over public transportation. It's weird.

true.  but, it's also weird that we don't have public transportation.  a light rail line shouldn't be news-worthy.   

It's not that weird when u consider kc has almost no traffic issues, federal funding should go elsewhere
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 10, 2016, 07:16:53 PM
U kc guys need to stop creaming yourselves over public transportation. It's weird.

true.  but, it's also weird that we don't have public transportation.  a light rail line shouldn't be news-worthy.   

It's not that weird when u consider kc has almost no traffic issues, federal funding should go elsewhere
Kc also has next to no economic development. Transit helps.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2016, 07:34:07 PM
No traffic issues? Lol. Takes me 45 minutes to go from mission farms to downtown on an average day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2016, 07:40:40 PM
20 miles in 45 minutes is not traffic problems
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2016, 07:42:05 PM
20 miles in 45 minutes is not traffic problems
Take a ride everyday in that BS and then get back to me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2016, 07:46:18 PM
I literally got flipped off today, because I passed some random guy. Feels weird in a city like this. Like, everyone who goes downtown for an event thinks Broadway is the only exit. I could write a book about this. Dumbasses don't know about 14th street and 12th street exits
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
Getting slightly congested from 5-5:45 isn't traffic problems.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2016, 07:50:24 PM
What's your commute lib?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2016, 07:51:24 PM
20 miles, it takes about 25 minutes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 10, 2016, 07:52:45 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160611/327e82e79d4e6e129890c52d7c92d863.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2016, 07:54:48 PM
KC literally has 30-45 minutes of congestion a day. I don't know if it's still the case, but kc used to have the most lane miles of freeway per capita, it's very easy to get around the city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2016, 08:10:04 PM
We're not LA tho. 35 is a death trap. No reason to hangout in traffic. Especially with super dumbasses
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 10, 2016, 09:15:52 PM
20 miles in a real city takes well over an hour in rush hour. If your think KC has traffic problems, you're a bumpkin who never left
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 10, 2016, 11:22:46 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 10, 2016, 11:34:49 PM
We're not LA tho. 35 is a death trap. No reason to hangout in traffic. Especially with super dumbasses

Does anyone understand what is going on in this post?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 11, 2016, 01:01:04 AM
Our lack of traffic doesn't stop dumbass DOTs from wasting money on expanding highways.....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wabash909 on June 11, 2016, 06:24:33 AM
It takes me close two 2 hours to get eight miles from LaGuardia into midtown Manhattan at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.  KC doesn't have bad traffic for a major city, but it also needs light rail.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 11, 2016, 08:57:35 AM
We're not LA tho. 35 is a death trap. No reason to hangout in traffic. Especially with super dumbasses

Does anyone understand what is going on in this post?

To me it says hey I'm super blackout drunk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2016, 09:11:37 AM
Does it Mocat? Does it?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 11, 2016, 10:09:44 AM
20 miles in a real city takes well over an hour in rush hour. If your think KC has traffic problems, you're a bumpkin who never left

Yessir
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
I've lived in 5 different state in my life, so I wouldn't consider myself being a "bumpkin that never left". Being frustrated in traffic is definitely a pet peeve of mine in a shitty car. Sorry for venting.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 11, 2016, 10:52:51 AM
I've lived in 5 different state in my life, so I wouldn't consider myself being a "bumpkin that never left". Being frustrated in traffic is definitely a pet peeve of mine in a shitty car. Sorry for venting.

What's the biggest city you've lived in since you got your DL?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2016, 11:00:33 AM
Denver, Sioux City, and Arlington
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 11, 2016, 11:05:08 AM
Denver, Sioux City, and Arlington

Denver rush hour is worse
Sioux city is not a city
NOVA traffic is a nightmare out of hell
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 11, 2016, 11:38:47 AM
Denver, Sioux City, and Arlington

Denver rush hour is worse
Sioux city is not a city
NOVA traffic is a nightmare out of hell


I think he was talking about Arlington TX
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 11, 2016, 11:54:18 AM
No one would live there on purpose
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 11, 2016, 12:06:46 PM
It takes me close two 2 hours to get eight miles from LaGuardia into midtown Manhattan at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.  KC doesn't have bad traffic for a major city, but it also needs light rail.

this.  a lot of major cities with successful and effective mass transit don't have terrible traffic. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 11, 2016, 12:28:33 PM
No one would live there on purpose

a poster named joda is paying to go to grad school there lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 11, 2016, 12:32:01 PM
It takes me close two 2 hours to get eight miles from LaGuardia into midtown Manhattan at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.  KC doesn't have bad traffic for a major city, but it also needs light rail.

this.  a lot of major cities with successful and effective mass transit don't have terrible traffic.

I'm just saying that federal funding should go elsewhere before it goes to needless public transit.  LA and Socal in general literally need to double the size of their interstates, I5 in particular.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
Pretty crazy night last night. Ms. Wacky and I were sound asleep at 3:40 before We heard this crazy bitch knocking on the door. I look through the peep hole and it was a short Hispanic chick going nuts on our door. I finally opened the door to see if she needed help or something and she screamed at us that we were in her apartment. :lol: Somehow this bitch still had keys to get into the building and then mumped up our lock with a different key. She apparently lived here 5 years ago. She actually put some bruises on Ms. Wacky too, before I had to push the dumb bitch off of her. Have already had our locks changed this morning. #downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 11:20:58 AM
Why did you open the door?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2016, 11:26:48 AM
Why did you open the door?
Honestly, I knew this question was coming and she was so crazy, I didn't know if she was running from something and needed help. :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2016, 12:10:18 PM
classic kansas city thing!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2016, 12:10:54 PM
Pretty crazy night last night. Ms. Wacky and I were sound asleep at 3:40 before We heard this crazy bitch knocking on the door. I look through the peep hole and it was a short Hispanic chick going nuts on our door. I finally opened the door to see if she needed help or something and she screamed at us that we were in her apartment. :lol: Somehow this bitch still had keys to get into the building and then mumped up our lock with a different key. She apparently lived here 5 years ago. She actually put some bruises on Ms. Wacky too, before I had to push the dumb bitch off of her. Have already had our locks changed this morning. #downtown

Had the same thing happen a few years ago but it was a guy so drunk he couldn't hardly stand.  He kept kicking our glass door and I thought he was going to break it.  Ended up calling the cops but walked him down towards Quaff and was going to throw him in a cab....his friend was walking down the street looking for him so I told him to get his buddy our of here as "someone has called the cops on him".

Type of stuff happens when you are close to a bar and I consider it a small price to pay.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2016, 12:37:33 PM
I don't lock my doors and twice have woken up to a drunk girl in my place, neither were in kansas city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2016, 12:45:03 PM
I pushed her so hard when she tried to bite Ms. Wacky that her head hit the neighbors door. :frown: That's when she finally left. What was I supposed to do. Cops agreed it was the right move tho. I reported myself for self defense of the situation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2016, 03:13:04 PM
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kogf2iajuM1qzhiqwo1_1280.png)

Drugs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 03:15:28 PM
We think so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 13, 2016, 03:16:25 PM
I don't lock my doors and twice have woken up to a drunk girl in my place, neither were in kansas city
I bet you have you sly dog  ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on June 13, 2016, 03:39:48 PM
Pretty crazy night last night. Ms. Wacky and I were sound asleep at 3:40 before We heard this crazy bitch knocking on the door. I look through the peep hole and it was a short Hispanic chick going nuts on our door. I finally opened the door to see if she needed help or something and she screamed at us that we were in her apartment. :lol: Somehow this bitch still had keys to get into the building and then mumped up our lock with a different key. She apparently lived here 5 years ago. She actually put some bruises on Ms. Wacky too, before I had to push the dumb bitch off of her. Have already had our locks changed this morning. #downtown

Maybe a chain for the door so you can check next time without opening yourself fully up to crazy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2016, 04:19:32 PM
Also might consider getting a Judge (obviously).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2016, 02:37:07 AM
I'll say it.... I don't get boulevardia

Avoided it the first two years but had free tickets so thought I'd check it out this year.  Basically...

-Get yourself to the west bottoms (I walked, most seem to drive)
-Pay fifteen bucks
-Walk around West bottoms (could do for free any night and go to the ship)
-for that entrance fee you get to drink a limited selection of Blvd beers... If you search you can find one stand with duvel products.
-beers are six bucks (beer cocktails were 8 which were pretty good actually)
-there are bands to entertain you....three stages...all meh
-food trucks (plantain district was there so happy)

Don't get it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wabash909 on June 18, 2016, 06:10:16 AM
The lineup this year is bizarre.  Gin Blossoms, Soul Asylum?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2016, 07:10:29 AM
I was volunteering at the MS table last night. Gave Roger Espinoza a beer :cool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2016, 07:11:19 AM
But yeah I agree with Phil it's weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 18, 2016, 08:28:43 AM
it's really dumb but people seem to like doing dumb things so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on June 18, 2016, 08:35:39 AM
That one sounds lame. Although, sometimes festivals designed to sell beer and junk food are a good excuse to consume beer and junk food. You don't need an excuse, of course, but having one damn sure doesn't hurt anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2016, 08:53:17 AM
The lineup this year is bizarre.  Gin Blossoms, Soul Asylum?

I didn't even look at the sunday lineup...the lineup last night I hadn't heard of any of them (granted I'm not a live music groupie) except for the Phantastics and the only reason I'd heard of them is because they did a video on the streetcar.

If you are roped into going, go to the beer cocktail stand....those were pretty good.

really don't get the whole thing....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 18, 2016, 09:02:16 AM
full disclosure, bitching about boulevardia is most definitely a kansas city thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wabash909 on June 18, 2016, 10:12:17 AM
With the American Royal abandoning the west bottoms I do think it's cool to have an annual festival down there.  Also, the Ship is amazing on an unrelated note.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2016, 12:57:54 PM
You never heard of meg myers phil?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 18, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
You never heard of meg myers phil?
That alone would be well worth it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 18, 2016, 04:46:10 PM
You never heard of meg myers phil?
That alone would be well worth it
Meg Myers in concert is maybe the worst thing I've ever had to endure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2016, 10:45:44 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on June 19, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 19, 2016, 05:03:06 PM
Wtf is that thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on June 19, 2016, 06:32:38 PM
That thing is horrifying. Pure nightmare fuel.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2016, 07:54:47 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 19, 2016, 09:58:21 PM
Dude actually lives in Swope park
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on June 23, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Snow & Co closing Crossroads location, moving to Westport?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 23, 2016, 12:53:55 PM
Snow & Co closing Crossroads location, moving to Westport?
can't be true, it's on the streetcar line
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2016, 01:09:37 PM
Crossroads just needs to figure out who they are!!!

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on June 25, 2016, 09:10:36 PM
This guy is very Kansas City

https://twitter.com/elBryan (https://twitter.com/elBryan)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 25, 2016, 09:33:10 PM
This guy is very Kansas City

https://twitter.com/elBryan (https://twitter.com/elBryan)

holy grail of Kansas City
love the blind enthusiasm
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 26, 2016, 07:48:22 AM
ugh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2016, 11:59:46 AM
This guy is very Kansas City

https://twitter.com/elBryan (https://twitter.com/elBryan)

He is a twit and very non KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on June 26, 2016, 12:12:24 PM
Looking forward to riding your streetcar in a couple of weeks. Might be the highlight of our ten day adventure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 12:55:44 PM
I do not like that guy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
This guy is very Kansas City

https://twitter.com/elBryan (https://twitter.com/elBryan)

He is a twit and very non KC

he seems pretty kc to me, just because his agenda doesn't match yours makes him non-KCer?   are you the donald trump of kansas city?  yikes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 01:48:16 PM
you guys want a kconfession?  i've never been to gates or arthur byrant's.  i was just sitting here thinking what i should get for lunch and i was like hmm, maybe i should try gates.  idk, what do u think guys?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 26, 2016, 01:55:27 PM
Isn't it still breakfast time?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2016, 02:02:48 PM
This guy is very Kansas City

https://twitter.com/elBryan (https://twitter.com/elBryan)

He is a twit and very non KC

he seems pretty kc to me, just because his agenda doesn't match yours makes him non-KCer?   are you the donald trump of kansas city?  yikes.

He doesn't do anything to build up the city. He is simply a contrarian to everything going on. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 26, 2016, 02:09:22 PM
you guys want a kconfession?  i've never been to gates or arthur byrant's.  i was just sitting here thinking what i should get for lunch and i was like hmm, maybe i should try gates.  idk, what do u think guys?

Gates is pretty good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2016, 02:24:48 PM
This guy is very Kansas City

https://twitter.com/elBryan (https://twitter.com/elBryan)

He is a twit and very non KC

he seems pretty kc to me, just because his agenda doesn't match yours makes him non-KCer?   are you the donald trump of kansas city?  yikes.

He doesn't do anything to build up the city. He is simply a contrarian to everything going on. 
yikes, trump titola
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2016, 02:37:07 PM
That doesn't make any sense clams. Trying too hard to fight  :Crybaby:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2016, 03:09:18 PM
looks to me like he's doing the things he thinks will help kc, how many times have you run for city council?  i'm assuming you're president of your neighborhood association like he is? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 26, 2016, 03:24:49 PM
Are kids really murdering kids in his neighborhood?   That sounds pretty terrible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2016, 03:27:18 PM
looks to me like he's doing the things he thinks will help kc, how many times have you run for city council?  i'm assuming you're president of your neighborhood association like he is?

I do give him credit how well he supports his neighborhood...but people that make videos that falsely claim people are doing drugs because he disagrees with their position on civic issues isn't moving kc forward. Just my opinion though...did you vote for him when he ran for the at large council seat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 03:31:10 PM
you guys want a kconfession?  i've never been to gates or arthur byrant's.  i was just sitting here thinking what i should get for lunch and i was like hmm, maybe i should try gates.  idk, what do u think guys?

Gates is pretty good

It's pretty dece. Not a fan of the yelling tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2016, 03:33:34 PM
looks to me like he's doing the things he thinks will help kc, how many times have you run for city council?  i'm assuming you're president of your neighborhood association like he is?

I do give him credit how well he supports his neighborhood...but people that make videos that falsely claim people are doing drugs because he disagrees with their position on civic issues isn't moving kc forward. Just my opinion though...did you vote for him when he ran for the at large council seat?

i did not vote for him. but just because i disagree with his particular viewpoint doesn't mean i don't think he's KC.  he apparently loves KC and is doing what he thinks is right to help the city.  that doesn't mean he's right.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2016, 03:40:16 PM
looks to me like he's doing the things he thinks will help kc, how many times have you run for city council?  i'm assuming you're president of your neighborhood association like he is?

I do give him credit how well he supports his neighborhood...but people that make videos that falsely claim people are doing drugs because he disagrees with their position on civic issues isn't moving kc forward. Just my opinion though...did you vote for him when he ran for the at large council seat?

i did not vote for him. but just because i disagree with his particular viewpoint doesn't mean i don't think he's KC.  he apparently loves KC and is doing what he thinks is right to help the city.  that doesn't mean he's right.

True.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 03:50:22 PM
Also wish I wouldn't have taken a shower before I went there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2016, 03:53:40 PM
Also wish I wouldn't have taken a shower before I went there

You've inspired me to get gates delivered via postmates....their fries are delish
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 26, 2016, 03:54:36 PM
Their fries are delish Phil yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 03:54:42 PM
It feels like a wasted shower
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2016, 03:58:16 PM
gates' fries and sauce are BITB.  source: former gates employee and graduate of rib-tech, clams
pro-tip:  ask for them to make the fries extra crispy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 03:59:50 PM
Yeah I heard that protip after I sat down and stored it in the ole internal hdd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2016, 04:01:30 PM
gates' fries and sauce are BITB.  source: former gates employee and graduate of rib-tech, clams
pro-tip:  ask for them to make the fries extra crispy

I once saw someone order their meat "lean as" and the chef yelled back "all our meat is lean!" but I'll definitely still order my fries extra crispy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 04:03:08 PM
I heard someone say clean and extra dry, what does that mean
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2016, 04:29:57 PM
i think it means no sauce
i don't really get the lean as, people always order it that way but i like a little fat on my brisket
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 04:49:16 PM
I don't like fat on anything
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 01, 2016, 10:31:29 PM
I rode the streetcar. It's fun. I'm about to ride it again
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 01, 2016, 10:33:12 PM
With a bunch of selena gomez fans  :fatty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 01, 2016, 10:44:09 PM
do you have a thing for a huge selena gomez?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 01, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
do you have a thing for a huge selena gomez?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27915.msg1581645.msg#1581645
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 01, 2016, 11:12:53 PM
do you have a thing for a huge selena gomez?

Ok this should be obvious
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 01, 2016, 11:14:26 PM
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2016, 02:47:00 PM
do you have a thing for a huge selena gomez?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27915.msg1581645.msg#1581645

she was at t.loft on the plaza yesterday
like most famous celebs, she can't get enough of the 64112
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2016, 02:48:09 PM
do you have a thing for a huge selena gomez?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27915.msg1581645.msg#1581645

she was at t.loft on the plaza yesterday
like most famous celebs, she can't get enough of the 64112

Joe Jonas was giving out deez nutz at doughnut lounge yesterday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2016, 02:48:34 PM
In the 64 trips 1
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 02, 2016, 02:55:44 PM
The 14 was pretty quiet
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2016, 02:56:58 PM
kc, Dallas, LA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 02, 2016, 08:53:42 PM
Rain
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 02, 2016, 08:57:33 PM
Rain

Enjoying it with some light jazz on the front porch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on July 03, 2016, 10:26:41 AM
Gate's sauce tastes like liquefied celery


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 03, 2016, 01:33:38 PM
Enjoying a Briar & Bramble at Double Shift right now. Hi @KCFDcat ! :adios:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 03, 2016, 01:34:23 PM
Enjoying a Briar & Bramble at Double Shift right now. Hi @KCFDcat ! :adios:
Aw crap. Hope you enjoy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2016, 10:07:17 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/wastewater-flowing-into-brush-creek

500 gallons a minute.  cool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2016, 10:09:11 PM
streetcar  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 14, 2016, 10:10:41 PM
Gross
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2016, 10:11:42 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-council-approves-funding-for-18th-and-vine-district

when will these dumbasses learn? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 14, 2016, 11:00:20 PM
I assumed brush Creek was already 100% waste water
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 14, 2016, 11:01:39 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-council-approves-funding-for-18th-and-vine-district

when will these dumbasses learn?

lol clamsy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2016, 11:54:04 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-council-approves-funding-for-18th-and-vine-district

when will these dumbasses learn?

lol clamsy
no amount of money is going to turn that crapfest into anything more than it already is.  feel free to donate your hard earned cash towards the dumbass project if you feel otherwise.  maybe they'll name the much needed parking garage after you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 15, 2016, 08:18:13 AM
I assumed brush Creek was already 100% waste water

Exactly, it was already, "no seriously don't touch that water"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 15, 2016, 08:19:29 AM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-council-approves-funding-for-18th-and-vine-district

when will these dumbasses learn?

lol clamsy
no amount of money is going to turn that crapfest into anything more than it already is.  feel free to donate your hard earned cash towards the dumbass project if you feel otherwise.  maybe they'll name the much needed parking garage after you.

Nobody goes there..... It needs a parking garage!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 15, 2016, 08:32:39 AM
you know what i call dumping 500 gallons a minute of human waste?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 15, 2016, 08:33:14 AM




















tuesday!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on July 15, 2016, 08:41:40 AM
Before I die I want to kayak from the plaza to Arrowhead on brush creek. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 15, 2016, 08:44:29 AM
Before I die I want to kayak from the plaza to Arrowhead on brush creek. Thoughts?

bring nose plugs.  it really messes with my gran falloon patio mojo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 17, 2016, 08:41:12 AM
Did my first bone marrow luge last night at Antons.  Seemed silly.

They do have bone-in ribeye but I don't think it's #longbone style. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 17, 2016, 03:01:57 PM
Did my first bone marrow luge last night at Antons.  Seemed silly.

They do have bone-in ribeye but I don't think it's #longbone style. 
its gross and anton's isn't worth the price they charge
i did eat a bone in last night though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 17, 2016, 03:59:08 PM
Did my first bone marrow luge last night at Antons.  Seemed silly.

They do have bone-in ribeye but I don't think it's #longbone style. 
its gross and anton's isn't worth the price they charge
i did eat a bone in last night though

I've not taken one person there that doesn't call it one of their best steaks ever :ck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 17, 2016, 04:06:07 PM
Very overrated and overpriced
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 17, 2016, 05:01:16 PM
Did my first bone marrow luge last night at Antons.  Seemed silly.

They do have bone-in ribeye but I don't think it's #longbone style. 
its gross and anton's isn't worth the price they charge
i did eat a bone in last night though

I've not taken one person there that doesn't call it one of their best steaks ever :ck:
What a bunch of knuckleheads. It's v. Good!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 17, 2016, 07:16:18 PM
you guys should try a real steakhouse
ya, it's better than hereford house i guess?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 17, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Their Gouda Mac  n chz is the bitb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on July 17, 2016, 08:13:42 PM
Did my first bone marrow luge last night at Antons.  Seemed silly.

They do have bone-in ribeye but I don't think it's #longbone style. 
its gross and anton's isn't worth the price they charge
i did eat a bone in last night though

I've not taken one person there that doesn't call it one of their best steaks ever :ck:
I've just eaten there once but I was underwhelmed. They were out of the grain-fed bone-in ribeye so I opted for the grass-fed on the bartenders rec. Maybe I just prefer grain-fed beef.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 17, 2016, 10:23:01 PM
you guys should try a real steakhouse
ya, it's better than hereford house i guess?

Houston's?

I have higher hopes than I should for that Stockhill Steakhouse place on south plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 18, 2016, 09:24:11 AM
Did my first bone marrow luge last night at Antons.  Seemed silly.

They do have bone-in ribeye but I don't think it's #longbone style. 
its gross and anton's isn't worth the price they charge
i did eat a bone in last night though

I've not taken one person there that doesn't call it one of their best steaks ever :ck:
I've just eaten there once but I was underwhelmed. They were out of the grain-fed bone-in ribeye so I opted for the grass-fed on the bartenders rec. Maybe I just prefer grain-fed beef.  :dunno:

likely, I also am not a fan of the gaminess of grassfed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 18, 2016, 09:45:56 AM
Did my first bone marrow luge last night at Antons.  Seemed silly.

They do have bone-in ribeye but I don't think it's #longbone style. 
its gross and anton's isn't worth the price they charge
i did eat a bone in last night though

I've not taken one person there that doesn't call it one of their best steaks ever :ck:
I've just eaten there once but I was underwhelmed. They were out of the grain-fed bone-in ribeye so I opted for the grass-fed on the bartenders rec. Maybe I just prefer grain-fed beef.  :dunno:

Grain-fed is much better than grass-fed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 18, 2016, 09:48:26 AM
Grass fed is hippy dippy California bullshit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on July 18, 2016, 11:12:43 AM
Grass fed is hippy dippy California bullshit
"It's better for you." Well I'm not eating a 20oz ribeye for health reasons.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2016, 03:46:23 PM
you guys should try a real steakhouse
ya, it's better than hereford house i guess?

Houston's?

I have higher hopes than I should for that Stockhill Steakhouse place on south plaza

h-town has great steaks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2016, 03:57:39 PM
to complete the helzberg crossroads TIF tiff, it seems BNIM will move to crown center.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2016, 04:18:58 PM
has anyone been keeping up with the crossroads/liquor license drama where the owner of properties gets a larger say in who is awarded licenses in the neighborhood surrounding their property?  kcmo is corrupt as ever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 19, 2016, 04:20:31 PM
has anyone been keeping up with the crossroads/liquor license drama where the owner of properties gets a larger say in who is awarded licenses in the neighborhood surrounding their property?  kcmo is corrupt as ever.

I believe KCFDCat has...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 19, 2016, 04:28:18 PM
has anyone been keeping up with the crossroads/liquor license drama where the owner of properties gets a larger say in who is awarded licenses in the neighborhood surrounding their property?  kcmo is corrupt as ever.

KCMO is trying to fix that. In fact they passed an ordinance to fix it. Of course petition happy KC got enough signatures so now they are trying to come to a resolution or going to put it on the ballot

Complete nonsense as it stands now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2016, 05:44:06 PM
ya i know.  jolie justus (stud council lady of the 4th district (best district)) started the legislation to fix it.  that didn't stop brad nicholson from being doucheman mc douche. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 19, 2016, 05:58:40 PM
ya i know.  jolie justus (stud council lady of the 4th district (best district)) started the legislation to fix it.  that didn't stop brad nicholson from being doucheman mc douche.

She sure did.  I'm shocked they got that many people to sign that ballot...I think a lot of NIMBY Crossroads people are fine with him being the big bully for them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 21, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
Do you guys know about the MR340?  It's a Kansas City / St Louis / Missouri River between here and there thing.

These crazy asses canoe down the river in a race.  My buddy and his son were competing but had to pull out because my buddy got heat stroke.  Looks kinda nuts.  I think it'd be fun, but I'd prefer a Rocky Mountain setting.

http://rivermiles.com/mr340/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on July 21, 2016, 10:44:10 AM
What do people wear to a performance at the KCFPA?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 21, 2016, 11:45:59 AM
Do you guys know about the MR340?  It's a Kansas City / St Louis / Missouri River between here and there thing.

These crazy asses canoe down the river in a race.  My buddy and his son were competing but had to pull out because my buddy got heat stroke.  Looks kinda nuts.  I think it'd be fun, but I'd prefer a Rocky Mountain setting.

http://rivermiles.com/mr340/

the missouri river was the recipient of the 500 gallons per minute of raw sewage last week, no thx
that river (as are most) is disgusting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2016, 12:12:47 PM
What do people wear to a performance at the KCFPA?
What are you seeing?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on July 21, 2016, 04:01:28 PM
What do people wear to a performance at the KCFPA?
What are you seeing?

Big Fish the musical
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 21, 2016, 04:13:01 PM
Bring kleenex
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 21, 2016, 04:21:12 PM
http://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20828136/voting-for-the-2016-best-of-kansas-city-awards-is-now-open (http://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20828136/voting-for-the-2016-best-of-kansas-city-awards-is-now-open)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on July 21, 2016, 04:21:31 PM
What do people wear to a performance at the KCFPA?
What are you seeing?

Big Fish the musical

I made the calculated decision to wear jeans with a tucked in collared shirt and nice boots to one of those National Geographic powerpoint presentations (after having been to other, what I took as more formal, events before) and regretted that choice. 

Also, I think my neighbor is in that show but we somehow managed to escape being required to attend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
What do people wear to a performance at the KCFPA?
What are you seeing?

Big Fish the musical
Suit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 21, 2016, 04:37:02 PM
A suit? Lol get over yourself kcfpa
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on July 21, 2016, 04:53:23 PM
What do people wear to a performance at the KCFPA?
What are you seeing?

Big Fish the musical
Suit.

Yikes, was hoping for BusiCas.  (Business Casual)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2016, 04:54:18 PM
A suit? Lol get over yourself kcfpa
What would you suggest? Jeans and a t-shirt? This isn't Hayes rough ridin' Kansas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2016, 04:57:41 PM
What do people wear to a performance at the KCFPA?

i would wear KCTCA, etc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 21, 2016, 05:01:25 PM
A suit? Lol get over yourself kcfpa
What would you suggest? Jeans and a t-shirt? This isn't Hayes rough ridin' Kansas.

lol yeah this is big time fancy musical theater!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/proper-theater-attire_us_55b8dbe8e4b0a13f9d1ae355
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 21, 2016, 05:01:47 PM
A suit? Lol get over yourself kcfpa
What would you suggest? Jeans and a t-shirt? This isn't Hayes rough ridin' Kansas.

I would roll in there with cargo shorts and sandals flippin double birds to the establishment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 21, 2016, 05:29:00 PM
i would wear busicas.  a suit seems like overkill.  but i don't think i'd wear jeans.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 21, 2016, 05:31:31 PM
A suit? Lol get over yourself kcfpa
What would you suggest? Jeans and a t-shirt? This isn't Hayes rough ridin' Kansas.

lol yeah this is big time fancy musical theater!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/proper-theater-attire_us_55b8dbe8e4b0a13f9d1ae355
That article is incredibly dumb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 21, 2016, 05:33:06 PM
https://www.londontheatredirect.com/post/595/Dress-Code-Does-It-Matter-What-You-Wear-To-The-Theatre.aspx
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 21, 2016, 05:34:25 PM
But seriously business casu is fine unless it's like opening night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2016, 06:10:43 PM
either wear a suit, or wear shorts and flip flops. don't be a FP
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 21, 2016, 06:17:56 PM
Da hell we talking about?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 22, 2016, 10:58:42 AM
I wear a suit to the ballet in the winter, but business casual should be fine for a musical during the summertime.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 23, 2016, 10:07:19 PM
At Double Shift for the 1 year anniversary party, @KCFDCat

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 23, 2016, 10:09:45 PM
That's awesome it made it to a year, really proud of you KCFDcat!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 24, 2016, 08:17:49 AM
At Double Shift for the 1 year anniversary party, @KCFDCat

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
Thanks for making it down!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 24, 2016, 10:47:44 AM
I owe you $30 and I didn't know it was your 1 year, neighbor. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 24, 2016, 10:55:09 AM
Some people independent from gE suggested we go to double shift last night but I nixed it cause no booze (sorry  :frown: ) but I thought you'd like to know other not-lame people had you in mind  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 24, 2016, 03:45:35 PM
Some people independent from gE suggested we go to double shift last night but I nixed it cause no booze (sorry  :frown: ) but I thought you'd like to know other not-lame people had you in mind  :)
Good to know!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 25, 2016, 06:26:05 PM
Wackster, looks like next time the boss needs you to go close a doc in Louisville you can hop on one of these.

https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/757698450460774400
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 25, 2016, 06:59:23 PM
 :love: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 25, 2016, 07:23:07 PM
Wackster, looks like next time the boss needs you to go close a doc in Louisville you can hop on one of these.

https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/757698450460774400

Would have been pretty cool if they would have flown out of MKC somehow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 26, 2016, 08:30:54 AM
If I'm going to spend the cash to fly on a private jet, I don't want to have a "typical airport experience" I want to be able to park about 100 ft away and walk right onto the plane. Seems like a very odd concept.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on July 26, 2016, 01:38:12 PM
Wackster, looks like next time the boss needs you to go close a doc in Louisville you can hop on one of these.

https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/757698450460774400

It's a stupid idea. Pay $1000 to ride in a slower cramped jet with 8 strangers and no flight attendant? No thanks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 26, 2016, 02:24:19 PM
Cramped? Maybe. Slower? No.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 26, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
no baggage fees!   :billdance:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 27, 2016, 01:57:57 PM
Private jets nbd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 27, 2016, 02:13:25 PM
http://1023blakefm.com/classy-dude-climbs-broadcast-tower-and-pounds-beers/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: nicname on July 27, 2016, 03:11:54 PM
Took Nicname Jr. to Schlitterbahn yesterday. Park is fun, but a far worse value (if you like waterslides) than OOF. It's great if you like lazy riverish stuff tho! Nicname Jr. was a huge fan of both parks.

Did the giant waterslide (Nicname Jr. was too short). It was fun, but a very short ride.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 27, 2016, 03:21:36 PM
Nicname has a son?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on July 27, 2016, 04:04:18 PM
Took Nicname Jr. to Schlitterbahn yesterday. Park is fun, but a far worse value (if you like waterslides) than OOF. It's great if you like lazy riverish stuff tho! Nicname Jr. was a huge fan of both parks.

Did the giant waterslide (Nicname Jr. was too short). It was fun, but a very short ride.
I haven't' been to the 'bahn in a couple years but my trip to OOF a few weeks back was pretty disappointing.  They have added a "fast pass" option that is pretty much doubles the price of the ticket and results in 2 things
1. the lines are now all on the ground so there is less shade vs waiting on the stair case
2. you end up watching the same 5 people that have a fast pass go past you multiple times while you wait; not a fun convo to have with your 6 year old.

OOF did have a cool new slide where the floor drops out from under you but only 1 person operating the 3 different "launch coffins" :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 27, 2016, 05:35:39 PM
Nicname has a son?

Total stud son
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on July 28, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
Cramped? Maybe. Slower? No.

A320: 470knots

Beechjet: 441knots

A320: 6000feet per minute

Beechjet: 3000 feet per minute.


One is faster and it's not the beechjet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 28, 2016, 10:21:22 AM
Cramped? Maybe. Slower? No.

A320: 470knots

Beechjet: 441knots

A320: 6000feet per minute

Beechjet: 3000 feet per minute.


One is faster and it's not the beechjet.

The cruising speed of an A320 is 511mph, a Hawker 400 is 510mph.   A 737 is 583mph.    (source Wikipedia)

I assume he also means the faster loading and departure as well.  Depending on how the gate control is done, it could be slow or fast, but of course departing freom MCI will never be as fast as walking out of a charter terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 28, 2016, 12:17:24 PM
regardless of how fast that dumb private jet goes it's a horrible idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 28, 2016, 12:31:50 PM
well, also regardless, private jets are such a kansas city thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on July 28, 2016, 02:13:54 PM
Cramped? Maybe. Slower? No.

A320: 470knots

Beechjet: 441knots

A320: 6000feet per minute

Beechjet: 3000 feet per minute.


One is faster and it's not the beechjet.

The cruising speed of an A320 is 511mph, a Hawker 400 is 510mph.   A 737 is 583mph.    (source Wikipedia)

I assume he also means the faster loading and departure as well.  Depending on how the gate control is done, it could be slow or fast, but of course departing freom MCI will never be as fast as walking out of a charter terminal.

Aircraft speeds are not referenced in mph. TAS is always knots. The 737 is slower than an A320. A beechjet with JT-15's is a pig. the new FJ-44's are a huge improvement.

It's a terrible idea. Just like all the other Part 135 operators that tried and died doing this.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 28, 2016, 02:43:28 PM
GOOD GRIEF EAST CAT YOU ARE THE WORST
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on July 28, 2016, 10:50:21 PM
GOOD GRIEF EAST CAT YOU ARE THE WORST

PLEASE ELABORATE MO CAT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 28, 2016, 11:46:58 PM
I wish I had never posted that tweet, it is tearing this blog apart :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 01, 2016, 06:42:54 PM
http://www.kcmosurvey.com/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 01, 2016, 07:49:18 PM
pretty comprehensive survey, i completed it except where they asked for my frigging address.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 01, 2016, 10:22:49 PM
pretty comprehensive survey, i completed it except where they asked for my frigging address.

I got it in paper form via mail but said I could fill it out via that address...Seemed like a good way to keep it focused on KCMO residents....were you worried that your responses would take away your trash services?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 01, 2016, 10:36:00 PM
yes exactly, i was worried that my responses would take away my trash services
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 01, 2016, 11:01:19 PM
yes exactly, i was worried that my responses would take away my trash services

As a condo owner, recycling/bulk pickup service was never available and trash service credits were taken away during Funkhouser, so it's a real fear.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 02, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Cramped? Maybe. Slower? No.

A320: 470knots

Beechjet: 441knots

A320: 6000feet per minute

Beechjet: 3000 feet per minute.


One is faster and it's not the beechjet.

The cruising speed of an A320 is 511mph, a Hawker 400 is 510mph.   A 737 is 583mph.    (source Wikipedia)

I assume he also means the faster loading and departure as well.  Depending on how the gate control is done, it could be slow or fast, but of course departing freom MCI will never be as fast as walking out of a charter terminal.

Aircraft speeds are not referenced in mph. TAS is always knots. The 737 is slower than an A320. A beechjet with JT-15's is a pig. the new FJ-44's are a huge improvement.

It's a terrible idea. Just like all the other Part 135 operators that tried and died doing this.

duh, but it's easy to convert from knots to mph for non-aero folks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 02, 2016, 05:29:24 PM
Metro with similar passenger counts planning for the future with their airport expansion.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/davidson%20/2016/07/31/nashville-airport-plans-12b-overhaul-including-new-hotel/87478166/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 02, 2016, 05:48:02 PM
take it to the Tennessee things thread, this issue is closed in kc, Los siento
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 02, 2016, 05:50:32 PM
take it to the Tennessee things thread, this issue is closed in kc, Los siento

* - Until 2017
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 02, 2016, 06:43:21 PM
kibosh, kid.  the people have spoken, we don't want sly's airport.  we won't in 5 months either.  kibosh, son, kibosh.  focus on your lies about how the toy train expansion won't eff main street traffic and how the $200m cost estimate is accurate.  :lol:   

rough ridin' kibosh :lol:  get that crap outta here, kibosh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 02, 2016, 06:45:52 PM
kibosh, kid.  the people have spoken, we don't want sly's airport.  we won't in 5 months either.  kibosh, son, kibosh.  focus on your lies about how the toy train expansion won't eff main street traffic and how the $200m cost estimate is accurate.  :lol:   

rough ridin' kibosh :lol:  get that crap outta here, kibosh

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 02, 2016, 06:48:33 PM
consider yourself kiboshed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 02, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Looks like clams learned a new word today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 02, 2016, 07:21:36 PM
just celebrating KIBOSHMANIA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 02, 2016, 07:22:30 PM
the airport will happen eventually
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 02, 2016, 08:29:44 PM
kiz-i-biz-osh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2016, 09:00:57 AM
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/08/02/kansas_city_s_streetcar_is_counting_crazy_high_ridership.html?wpsrc=sh_all_mob_fb_bot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2016, 09:02:29 AM
Quote
The proof has been in the ridership. Salt Lake’s S-Line counted about 1,000 passengers per day along its two-mile route in 2015. Atlanta’s 2.7-mile streetcar was counting just 1,000 riders a day during the first months of 2016. In June, Tampa’s TECO line counted just 600 passengers a day!

And then there is the new streetcar route in Kansas City, Missouri, which is getting 6,660 riders a day over the first three months of operation—and rising. Total ridership is 550,000 riders in just 84 days of operation. That’s an order of magnitude above its counterparts in Atlanta and Salt Lake City, and more than double ridership on the H Street Streetcar in D.C., which runs in a densely populated urban area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Quote
All that said: It’s been a runaway success
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 03, 2016, 09:09:03 AM
Quote
The KC Streetcar is definitely benefiting from a novelty boost in a city that hasn’t had rail transit in half a century. The warm weather is also pumping up the numbers—June, July, and August were the best months for the Atlanta Streetcar last year, which peaked in July.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 03, 2016, 09:10:57 AM
Quote
Rail boosters in KC don’t want to wait and see if the starter line’s popularity holds—they’ve already got plans ready for a second phase. Best to strike while the rail is hot.

plenty of takeaways from that article, wacky. if you want to declare it a success after 3 summer months of brand new toy usage then go ahead... just makes it more laughable next year when it gets crap on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 03, 2016, 09:13:43 AM
Quote
All that said: It’s been a runaway success

I don't think that can be said until we see a full year's worth of revenue (and taxes) from the businesses that this was supposed to bolster. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2016, 09:31:25 AM
Quote
Rail boosters in KC don’t want to wait and see if the starter line’s popularity holds—they’ve already got plans ready for a second phase. Best to strike while the rail is hot.

plenty of takeaways from that article, wacky. if you want to declare it a success after 3 summer months of brand new toy usage then go ahead... just makes it more laughable next year when it gets crap on.
I was always #TeamNoStreetCar. Just posting a blog article, bruh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 03, 2016, 09:33:54 AM
how many people have been murdered by the streetcar?  10-15?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 03, 2016, 09:35:19 AM
I think we can all agree that the streetcar has been great for kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2016, 09:36:59 AM
I think we can all agree that the streetcar has been great for kc
My main annoyance with it is, sometimes I have to triple check traffic before crossing the road to the gym.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 03, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 03, 2016, 09:51:21 AM
I know two different families(don't know each other and did this separately) that took a friday evening to drive downtown from the 'burbs just to park, walk to the streetcar line, ride the car, then walk back to their car and drive back to OP to get dinner.

 :ROFL:

'seeds.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 03, 2016, 10:11:31 AM
I know two different families(don't know each other and did this separately) that took a friday evening to drive downtown from the 'burbs just to park, walk to the streetcar line, ride the car, then walk back to their car and drive back to OP to get dinner.

 :ROFL:

'seeds.

you know some idiots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on August 03, 2016, 10:13:08 AM
I know two different families(don't know each other and did this separately) that took a friday evening to drive downtown from the 'burbs just to park, walk to the streetcar line, ride the car, then walk back to their car and drive back to OP to get dinner.

 :ROFL:

'seeds.

you know some idiots

More than my share, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 03, 2016, 12:31:06 PM
I know two different families(don't know each other and did this separately) that took a friday evening to drive downtown from the 'burbs just to park, walk to the streetcar line, ride the car, then walk back to their car and drive back to OP to get dinner.

 :ROFL:

'seeds.

you know some idiots

More than my share, unfortunately.

it's a worlds of fun ride for old people
the novelty will wear off and like emo said, how is it benefitting kansas city?  we have to see these development dollars in action.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 03, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
just scored a $36 3.5 star priceline bid in downtown kc for my family. we decided to come up this weekend to ride the trolley for one last family vaca before school starts. any advice on specific things to see while riding or stops to make while on it from you locals would be appreciated. anybody know if there are any discount coupons online? thanks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 03, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
Quote
All that said: It’s been a runaway success

I don't think that can be said until we see a full year's worth of revenue (and taxes) from the businesses that this was supposed to bolster.

Not sure that will ever be available in whole...more anecdotally.  anything produced by the city will be dismissed as made up....like other stats like "economic impact" of conventions are often challenged.

Ridership will definitely decrease as far as joyrides go but as more people move downtown and hopefully more jobs move downtown, the normal riders who are using it for daily tasks will pick up. I personally use it only a couple days a week.... It doesn't impact my commute.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 03, 2016, 01:08:41 PM
just scored a $36 3.5 star priceline bid in downtown kc for my family. we decided to come up this weekend to ride the trolley for one last family vaca before school starts. any advice on specific things to see while riding or stops to make while on it from you locals would be appreciated. anybody know if there are any discount coupons online? thanks!

City market and steamboat Arabia at River market stop.  Library at library stop. Movies at P&L stop. Crap ton of family stuff at Union Station stop. Dinner at crossroads stop.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 03, 2016, 01:15:04 PM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on August 03, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
Kansas City has all sorts of fun stuff to do. It has several restaurants and even a dueling piano bar. Sometimes when I'm downtown I stare at some of the tall buildings and think to myself "I bet a lot of work went into that"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 04, 2016, 09:03:39 AM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.

or maybe just your brewery is getting word of mouth? im sure its a combination of many things and im sure the street car has benefited your sales in some factor, im just not sure the street car is worth the $ we spent on it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2016, 09:05:54 AM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.

or maybe just your brewery is getting word of mouth? im sure its a combination of many things and im sure the street car has benefited your sales in some factor, im just not sure the street car is worth the $ we spent on it.
Yeah I'm sure there are several things that factor into increased sales.

I'd say it's too early to tell if the money was truly worth it or not. But, the early returns are good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 04, 2016, 09:10:36 AM
I tell everyone I know about your brewery KCFDcat. So i'm sure it's me.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:20:23 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on August 04, 2016, 09:22:14 AM
What is the parking sitch' down at DoubleShift?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 04, 2016, 09:22:50 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness :lol:

well, clamsy, im sure the streetcar has increased the number of people who are going out for beers downtown so even if its 3 blocks away im sure it has SOME effect on double shift. i dont think anyone was claiming 15%.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2016, 09:28:39 AM
What is the parking sitch' down at DoubleShift?

Easy Street parking everywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2016, 09:29:44 AM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.

or maybe just your brewery is getting word of mouth? im sure its a combination of many things and im sure the street car has benefited your sales in some factor, im just not sure the street car is worth the $ we spent on it.

Which is why I think it is important to remember the entire city isn't paying for this... Downtown taxed itself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:30:43 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness :lol:

well, clamsy, im sure the streetcar has increased the number of people who are going out for beers downtown so even if its 3 blocks away im sure it has SOME effect on double shift. i dont think anyone was claiming 15%.

no.  because why would a streetcar increase the number of people who are going out for beers downtown?
the streetcar isn't bringing people downtown.  people going out for beers downtown are already downtown or are coming downtown regardless of the streetcar. 

unless you think people are driving in from lenexa, parking near a streetcar stop, hopping onto the streetcar for a while and then getting off at 19th and main, walking three blocks, stumbling upon a brewery they never heard of called double shift, getting pak'd enough and drinking enough beers for kcfd to notice any sort of uptick in business, walking 3 blocks back to the streetcar stop, hopping back on the streetcar and taking it back around it's route until they reach the stop near where they originally parked, and then driving back to lenexa.  seems legit.  go cats, i guess?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2016, 09:30:46 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness
Where did I say it was the main driver? You're for real insane.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:32:05 AM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.

or maybe just your brewery is getting word of mouth? im sure its a combination of many things and im sure the street car has benefited your sales in some factor, im just not sure the street car is worth the $ we spent on it.

Which is why I think it is important to remember the entire city isn't paying for this... Downtown taxed itself.

correction, 350 eligible voters levied a tax upon business owners unfortunate enough to do business in sly's tdd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2016, 09:32:25 AM
What is the parking sitch' down at DoubleShift?
Small lot out front, street parking everywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2016, 09:33:35 AM
I go to that area more because of the streetcar. Foot traffic in crossroads overall has exploded since the streetcar. Those people have yelp/Google maps to find new places like doubleshift? 15% no... But nobody claimed that in the first place
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:33:47 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness
Where did I say it was the main driver? You're for real insane.

early returns are good!  early returns on what? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2016, 09:34:11 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness
Where did I say it was the main driver? You're for real insane.

early returns are good!  early returns on what?
Ridership numbers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:35:08 AM
I go to that area more because of the streetcar. Foot traffic in crossroads overall has exploded since the streetcar. Those people have yelp/Google maps to find new places like doubleshift? 15% no... But nobody claimed that in the first place

exploded lol.
man i would totally go to the crossroads but man, no streetcar?  no dice.  honey, let's hit the grinders in lenexa instead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2016, 09:35:50 AM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.

or maybe just your brewery is getting word of mouth? im sure its a combination of many things and im sure the street car has benefited your sales in some factor, im just not sure the street car is worth the $ we spent on it.

Which is why I think it is important to remember the entire city isn't paying for this... Downtown taxed itself.

correction, 350 eligible voters levied a tax upon business owners unfortunate enough to do business in sly's tdd

Businesses don't vote on taxes anywhere but you knew that. I don't hear any businesses complaining about their higher bills (outside of an air filter company)... They seem to realize the value they have gotten.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:36:07 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness
Where did I say it was the main driver? You're for real insane.

early returns are good!  early returns on what?
Ridership numbers

don't believe the hype
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2016, 09:36:27 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness
Where did I say it was the main driver? You're for real insane.

early returns are good!  early returns on what?
Ridership numbers

don't believe the hype
Ok.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:38:04 AM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.

or maybe just your brewery is getting word of mouth? im sure its a combination of many things and im sure the street car has benefited your sales in some factor, im just not sure the street car is worth the $ we spent on it.

Which is why I think it is important to remember the entire city isn't paying for this... Downtown taxed itself.

correction, 350 eligible voters levied a tax upon business owners unfortunate enough to do business in sly's tdd

Businesses don't vote on taxes anywhere but you knew that. I don't hear any businesses complaining about their higher bills (outside of an air filter company)... They seem to realize the value they have gotten.


they seem to
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 04, 2016, 09:38:10 AM
That blog piece is tearing this blog apart.  :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2016, 09:38:23 AM
I go to that area more because of the streetcar. Foot traffic in crossroads overall has exploded since the streetcar. Those people have yelp/Google maps to find new places like doubleshift? 15% no... But nobody claimed that in the first place

exploded lol.
man i would totally go to the crossroads but man, no streetcar?  no dice.  honey, let's hit the grinders in lenexa instead.

People are now walking more throughout downtown vs coming downtown, parking, going to one spot, getting back in in car.... Leaving.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:38:33 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness
Where did I say it was the main driver? You're for real insane.

early returns are good!  early returns on what?
Ridership numbers

don't believe the hype
Ok.

my God, you're insane for real
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:39:08 AM
I go to that area more because of the streetcar. Foot traffic in crossroads overall has exploded since the streetcar. Those people have yelp/Google maps to find new places like doubleshift? 15% no... But nobody claimed that in the first place

exploded lol.
man i would totally go to the crossroads but man, no streetcar?  no dice.  honey, let's hit the grinders in lenexa instead.

People are now walking more throughout downtown vs coming downtown, parking, going to one spot, getting back in in car.... Leaving.

we'll have to take your unbiased word for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2016, 09:40:59 AM
lol wait.  the streetcar stops at 19th and main, 3 blocks from double shift.  and this is the main driver behind a 15% uptick in business?  my goodness
Where did I say it was the main driver? You're for real insane.

early returns are good!  early returns on what?
Ridership numbers

don't believe the hype
Ok.

my God, you're insane for real
Probably
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2016, 09:42:34 AM
Downtown kc rebounding pisses clams ( :gocho: ) off so much...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 04, 2016, 09:48:13 AM
Hey, if some national blogger wants to shine light on KC, i'm not going to crush it. I'll definitely take it. It's not meant for us anyways, it's meant for tourism. They have no idea what's far or not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on August 04, 2016, 09:54:21 AM
I think what some people need to acknowledge is that Kansas City has claimed its place among the great cities of the world, with a transit system to match.

Sorry haters, those are the facts and you are just going to have to deal with them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 04, 2016, 09:56:50 AM
To be fair, 'Clams is kind of a weird Kansas Citian. He owns his turf, but hates Kansas City and wants to move to Cali. I mean yeah, Cali > KC, but we're no Tulsa Oklahoma either.  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:58:21 AM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.

or maybe just your brewery is getting word of mouth? im sure its a combination of many things and im sure the street car has benefited your sales in some factor, im just not sure the street car is worth the $ we spent on it.

Which is why I think it is important to remember the entire city isn't paying for this... Downtown taxed itself.

correction, 350 eligible voters levied a tax upon business owners unfortunate enough to do business in sly's tdd

Businesses don't vote on taxes anywhere but you knew that. I don't hear any businesses complaining about their higher bills (outside of an air filter company)... They seem to realize the value they have gotten.

business do vote on taxes, through the ownership of said business.  and when the owners of these downtown businesses were allowed to vote, at the citywide vote, they resoundingly said no.  so, sly came up with the tdd idea so he could exclude the dissenting votes.  but you knew that. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 09:58:54 AM

To be fair, 'Clams is kind of a weird Kansas Citian. He owns his turf, but hates Kansas City and wants to move to Cali. I mean yeah, Cali > KC, but we're no Tulsa Oklahoma either.  :th_twocents:


 :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 04, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2016, 10:06:54 AM
In the limited time since it opened sales have been up about 15%. Whether that's due to weather/summer or the streetcar is hard to determine. Jusy my experience.

or maybe just your brewery is getting word of mouth? im sure its a combination of many things and im sure the street car has benefited your sales in some factor, im just not sure the street car is worth the $ we spent on it.

Which is why I think it is important to remember the entire city isn't paying for this... Downtown taxed itself.

correction, 350 eligible voters levied a tax upon business owners unfortunate enough to do business in sly's tdd

Businesses don't vote on taxes anywhere but you knew that. I don't hear any businesses complaining about their higher bills (outside of an air filter company)... They seem to realize the value they have gotten.

business do vote on taxes, through the ownership of said business.  and when the owners of these downtown businesses were allowed to vote, at the citywide vote, they resoundingly said no.  so, sly came up with the tdd idea so he could exclude the dissenting votes.  but you knew that.

Except not even close to all business owners are kcmo residents and my sources tell me all downtown business owners that were kcmo residents voted in favor of the last citywide rail vote. That's a fact.  :crossfingers:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2016, 10:21:04 AM
I mean we literally have a downtown business owner on this blog saying he likes the streetcar and it has, in part, helped his business and 'clams just keeps yammering about how businesses hate the streetcar. It's truly daxian  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 11:12:35 AM
I mean we literally have a downtown business owner on this blog saying he likes the streetcar and it has, in part, helped his business and 'clams just keeps yammering about how businesses hate the streetcar. It's truly daxian  :lol:

i certainly can't argue with this dumbass logic.  point, set,  homerun, set point.  check mate. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 04, 2016, 11:13:46 AM
15D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 04, 2016, 11:39:51 AM
Clams gonna Clams - arguing with a downtown businessowner over the impact of the streetcar on said businessowner's revenues.   :lol:  what a weirdo.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 04, 2016, 11:55:11 AM
I personally love this 'clams the best
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on August 04, 2016, 11:57:21 AM
I personally love this 'clams the best
yes, a little reminiscent of when he would get after the Frankites in the glory days
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2016, 11:57:55 AM
I personally love this 'clams the best

Agreed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 12:30:24 PM
i'm not arguing with kcfd fwiw 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2016, 12:33:08 PM
You gonna ride the train to drafthouse for suicide squad?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 01:34:03 PM
I would but the damned thing is so full that I had to drive
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2016, 01:51:09 PM
Sounds like we need expansion  :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2016, 02:01:31 PM
i'm not arguing with kcfd fwiw
News to me, bud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2016, 02:13:29 PM
shocking
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 04, 2016, 02:31:21 PM
shocking

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ksuwizard on August 04, 2016, 05:53:03 PM
Tax Free Weekend in KC and most of MO this weekend! Time to to upgrade the monitor and get some new threads! :Woot: :Woot:

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/taxholiday/school/faq.php
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2016, 07:32:30 PM
congrats on saving $10
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 16, 2016, 11:48:47 AM
Zipcar adding 8 cars downtown!  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 17, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Jolie getting a compromise working on the crossroads liquor license ordeal... Nice work JJ. 

Although giving one large property owner 35% vote on a surrounding liquor license is still pretty high considering how few actually live in the neighborhood...and that 50% approval is needed... And 75% approval needed for a 3am license... So basically that large property owner still can play god with who gets a late night license...but maybe this focuses late night bars more to the P&L type areas and helps residents of the crossroads overall.

Giving condos more voice is nice too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 17, 2016, 01:22:26 PM
that's a good compromise, i guess?  the fact that the majority of the council didn't want to agree with how screwed up the other way was just shows how mumped that council is though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 17, 2016, 02:54:01 PM
The council all agreed and passed her original changes... It was the crossroads people that pitched a fit and got people sign a petition to stop it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 17, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
I'm ok with the compromise. I think 35% is still too high, but I'd rather have this than it go to a city vote.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 17, 2016, 03:03:49 PM
I also think the petitioning in KC is getting out of hand. Almost everything the city council does is met with some sort of petition.  I get not everyone will agree with everything, but that's why we vote these people into office, to make the best decisions for the city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2016, 03:12:28 PM
i'm against petitioning but i don't know how to show it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on August 17, 2016, 03:37:44 PM
start a facebook coalition
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 17, 2016, 03:42:40 PM
The council all agreed and passed her original changes... It was the crossroads people that pitched a fit and got people sign a petition to stop it.

yeah, i know.  this "compromise" still gives to much power to the few.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 17, 2016, 04:21:57 PM
The council all agreed and passed her original changes... It was the crossroads people that pitched a fit and got people sign a petition to stop it.

yeah, i know.  this "compromise" still gives to much power to the few.

Agreed and I like JJ saying all liquor ordinances in the city needs to be looked at holistically. I wish they would have kept the distance from the premise that could have a vote.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 29, 2016, 11:46:09 AM
https://twitter.com/LynnHorsley/status/770297312228716544

I always wanted that biking shop to turn into a roof top bar down there, and now they're doing good.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
No way streetcar increases value ..just ask a certain filter shop half block away from there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 29, 2016, 01:09:21 PM
I guess what i'm trying to say is, I've been waiting for that spot to go down for quite sometime. I was going to turn it into fannings pub and rooftop patio deck. I had great plans of doing Irish car bombs with my hommies, icing customers that acted up, and creating the greatest rooftop experience in downtown KC and now it's all for nothing, guys!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 29, 2016, 01:25:40 PM
I bought my mountain bike there
 :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2016, 01:27:49 PM
Losing a bike shop isn't good for sure....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 29, 2016, 01:48:57 PM
Midwest Cyclery at 40th & main is a great spot to keep your 2-wheeled axe demon in road warrior condition. plus you can enjoy a pint of tropical pale and billiards match next door at blind tiger while the bike geniuses finish up servicing your man-powered hog, wow what a great setup
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 29, 2016, 01:50:57 PM
Midwest Cyclery at 40th & main is a great spot to keep your 2-wheeled axe demon in road warrior condition. plus you can enjoy a pint of tropical pale and billiards match next door at blind tiger while the bike geniuses finish up servicing your man-powered hog, wow what a great setup

No rooftop car bombs?  :zzz:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 29, 2016, 01:52:23 PM
yeah the city has not allowed them to open the rooftop again until they do some stuff or something. streetcar!  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 29, 2016, 01:56:38 PM
I hope you guys know I have nothing against cycling. A boy just has a dream.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 29, 2016, 01:58:25 PM
I bought my bike in lawrentucky  :shy:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 29, 2016, 01:59:52 PM
Squawks love shopping local. :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 07, 2016, 01:10:04 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article100342377.html

Quote
Alleged KCK bank robber, 70, chooses prison over home and wife

A 70-year-old man charged with robbing a Kansas City, Kan., bank said he did it because he preferred a jail cell over living with his wife.

Lawrence John Ripple is charged in federal court with the Friday afternoon robbery of the Bank of Labor at 756 Minnesota Ave.

According to court documents, Ripple handed a teller a note that read, “I have a gun, give me money.”

The teller complied.

But instead of fleeing, Ripple took the money and then took a seat in the bank lobby, according to the documents.

When a bank security guard approached him, Ripple told the guard, “I’m the guy you’re looking for.”

The guard took the money from Ripple and held him until police arrived, which wasn’t long, because Kansas City, Kan., police headquarters is on the same block.

When he was questioned later by investigators, Ripple told him that he and his wife had argued and he “no longer wanted to be in that situation,” according to the documents.

“Ripple wrote out his demand note in front of his wife … and told her he’d rather be in jail than at home,” an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit filed in support of the robbery charge.

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2016, 08:15:02 PM
http://www.moveforwardkc.com/

@'clams @'tola
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2016, 09:19:48 PM
http://www.moveforwardkc.com/

@'clams @'tola

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 07, 2016, 09:35:18 PM
as if kc's elected officials gave 2 shits about what any of its constituents wanted, you or i
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2016, 09:43:52 PM
as if kc's elected officials gave 2 shits about what any of its constituents wanted, you or i

JJ does!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on September 07, 2016, 10:52:43 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article100342377.html

Quote
Alleged KCK bank robber, 70, chooses prison over home and wife

A 70-year-old man charged with robbing a Kansas City, Kan., bank said he did it because he preferred a jail cell over living with his wife.

Lawrence John Ripple is charged in federal court with the Friday afternoon robbery of the Bank of Labor at 756 Minnesota Ave.

According to court documents, Ripple handed a teller a note that read, “I have a gun, give me money.”

The teller complied.

But instead of fleeing, Ripple took the money and then took a seat in the bank lobby, according to the documents.

When a bank security guard approached him, Ripple told the guard, “I’m the guy you’re looking for.”

The guard took the money from Ripple and held him until police arrived, which wasn’t long, because Kansas City, Kan., police headquarters is on the same block.

When he was questioned later by investigators, Ripple told him that he and his wife had argued and he “no longer wanted to be in that situation,” according to the documents.

“Ripple wrote out his demand note in front of his wife … and told her he’d rather be in jail than at home,” an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit filed in support of the robbery charge.

:lol:

This deserves more attention than it has rec'd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 08, 2016, 08:24:26 AM
as if kc's elected officials gave 2 shits about what any of its constituents wanted, you or i
Most accurate post on this blog.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2016, 10:07:20 AM
as if kc's elected officials gave 2 shits about what any of its constituents wanted, you or i
Most accurate post on this blog.
So...they may give one?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 08, 2016, 10:48:21 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article100342377.html

Quote
Alleged KCK bank robber, 70, chooses prison over home and wife

A 70-year-old man charged with robbing a Kansas City, Kan., bank said he did it because he preferred a jail cell over living with his wife.

Lawrence John Ripple is charged in federal court with the Friday afternoon robbery of the Bank of Labor at 756 Minnesota Ave.

According to court documents, Ripple handed a teller a note that read, “I have a gun, give me money.”

The teller complied.

But instead of fleeing, Ripple took the money and then took a seat in the bank lobby, according to the documents.

When a bank security guard approached him, Ripple told the guard, “I’m the guy you’re looking for.”

The guard took the money from Ripple and held him until police arrived, which wasn’t long, because Kansas City, Kan., police headquarters is on the same block.

When he was questioned later by investigators, Ripple told him that he and his wife had argued and he “no longer wanted to be in that situation,” according to the documents.

“Ripple wrote out his demand note in front of his wife … and told her he’d rather be in jail than at home,” an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit filed in support of the robbery charge.

:lol:

This deserves more attention than it has rec'd.
Pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 08, 2016, 11:29:42 AM
i'm against petitioning but i don't know how to show it

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 11, 2016, 09:03:11 AM
Hope none of you guys were there

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article101211217.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 11, 2016, 12:43:53 PM
Westport is such trash, I feel sorry for anyone who likes to go there.  like mocat.  simply trash.
of course, this crime could be addressed with more cops.  but ya.  streetcar, brah.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 11, 2016, 01:49:16 PM
They want to have a cover for Westport again to pay for more security, but it got voted down again I think
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 11, 2016, 01:55:25 PM
Hope none of you guys were there

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article101211217.html

My brother was literally next to a guy who was shot in the knee. Gave him his belt to use as a tourniquet. :(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 11, 2016, 01:57:52 PM
Westport is such trash, I feel sorry for anyone who likes to go there.  like mocat.  simply trash.
of course, this crime could be addressed with more cops.  but ya.  streetcar, brah.

Guy just ran out of inbetween the hotel and apartments behind the flea market
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 11, 2016, 01:58:34 PM
There were loads of cops there already when it happened, btw
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 11, 2016, 01:59:07 PM
Guy did not GAF
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 11, 2016, 02:38:14 PM
That was very nice of mocat bro (a close personal friend of mine)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: everyone shut up on September 11, 2016, 03:04:37 PM
smakkaho  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on September 11, 2016, 03:36:55 PM
Dude is running through westport guns blazing? Sounds like the wild west now. Why didn't a cop shoot him?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 11, 2016, 03:46:37 PM
Dude is running through westport guns blazing? Sounds like the wild west now. Why didn't a cop shoot him?



its the new norm in the US, happens pretty much everyday now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 11, 2016, 09:02:32 PM
Westport is such trash, I feel sorry for anyone who likes to go there.  like mocat.  simply trash.
of course, this crime could be addressed with more cops.  but ya.  streetcar, brah.

ironic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 12, 2016, 04:13:29 PM
shooter was from known piece of trash state (Kansas)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 12, 2016, 04:32:05 PM
this $!#* was finally arrested
http://fox4kc.com/2016/09/11/man-taken-into-custody-in-edwards-mo-in-connection-with-missing-raymore-woman/

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 13, 2016, 08:04:41 AM
this $!#* was finally arrested
http://fox4kc.com/2016/09/11/man-taken-into-custody-in-edwards-mo-in-connection-with-missing-raymore-woman/

I read up a bit on that guy's backstory. Sucks people like him get a chance to strike again. Hopefully there's a good outcome but I have serious doubts she is alive.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 21, 2016, 10:37:18 AM
Central St is going to be converted to a 2-way street between 9th and ~14th st
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 01:26:57 PM
the planning commission did not support the westport quicktrip expansion, still going to the council but this isn't a good sign

rough ridin' idiot west plaza association bastards
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 21, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
Can someone explain to my why I feel more unsafe all of a sudden in Waldo Vs Downtown? It's almost "too" quiet and I don't trust it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 21, 2016, 01:43:38 PM
Also, some of my furniture and the guest bedroom bed has been sitting in storage at Mrs. wacky's folks place (Garage and spare house) and I have this extreme fear/anxiety that some snake is going to pop out of it when laying on it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 01:55:30 PM
Can someone explain to my why I feel more unsafe all of a sudden in Waldo Vs Downtown? It's almost "too" quiet and I don't trust it!

because waldo is a shitload more unsafe than downtown

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 21, 2016, 01:58:56 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
I mean troost area is RIGHT THERE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
yeah you're kidding but yeah you're right.  look at the crime map.  it's not coming from leawood.

https://www.crimereports.com/


64114

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 21, 2016, 02:16:16 PM
I'm chaining up my new grill this week. Mrs wacky's bros house got broke into 3 times while he was around there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 21, 2016, 02:23:50 PM
<--- grew up in the '114 so i am street tough AF. for example, one time in the late 90's our neighbor's car was stolen. that's a true story.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2016, 04:07:43 PM
the planning commission did not support the westport quicktrip expansion, still going to the council but this isn't a good sign

rough ridin' idiot west plaza association bastards

This doesn't surprise me. Very horrible plan for the neighorhood. Why do you like the plan clams?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 21, 2016, 04:12:49 PM
https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/778701741336309760

I thought it was a meme at first.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 21, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
my first reaction upon seeing that mug was "North KC", wow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 04:30:55 PM
the planning commission did not support the westport quicktrip expansion, still going to the council but this isn't a good sign

rough ridin' idiot west plaza association bastards

This doesn't surprise me. Very horrible plan for the neighorhood. Why do you like the plan clams?

it's as much a business district as it is a neighborhood/shitty apartment slum
that top of the line quicktrip will be the nicest thing in that whole area 

shuttered liquor store?  check
shuttered gas station?  check
jimmy johns? check
some guy who sells high mileage imports? check
shuttered vape shop?  check
a couple of head shops?  check
shitty BP that hasn't done any improvements since the 70's? check
another shitty liquor store?  check
i almost forgot the chicken nuggets stand

it's not like they're popping it down in the middle of the west plaza.  that quicktrip is packed 24/7, i avoid it at all costs.  the development would most definitely improve the value of the area and it's not going to make westport road incrementally busier than it already is. they did a great job on their 80th and state line location, no reason to think this would be any different.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
Closing streets for a gas station is a non starter for me.... It looks like a truck stop. Needs to be a better scale. Doesn't fit the midtown plan.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 05:16:30 PM
Closing streets for a gas station is a non starter for me.... It looks like a truck stop. Needs to be a better scale. Doesn't fit the midtown plan.

nicest thing on the block and gtfo with that stupid midtown plan.  my neighborhood, my decision- similar to the streetcar, k
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 05:17:01 PM
but ya, those shuttered business have fit right into the midtown plan for too long
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2016, 07:06:33 PM
Closing streets for a gas station is a non starter for me.... It looks like a truck stop. Needs to be a better scale. Doesn't fit the midtown plan.

nicest thing on the block and gtfo with that stupid midtown plan.  my neighborhood, my decision- similar to the streetcar, k

Gotta demand better clams.... Don't accept every hussie.   The midtown plan was approved by your hood...so if you don't agree go knock on your neighbors door... I'm just trying to support what you guys wanted.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 21, 2016, 07:22:12 PM
Wacky is progressing to the 'burbs way quicker than I thought :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 07:29:03 PM
Closing streets for a gas station is a non starter for me.... It looks like a truck stop. Needs to be a better scale. Doesn't fit the midtown plan.

nicest thing on the block and gtfo with that stupid midtown plan.  my neighborhood, my decision- similar to the streetcar, k

Gotta demand better clams.... Don't accept every hussie.   The midtown plan was approved by your hood...so if you don't agree go knock on your neighbors door... I'm just trying to support what you guys wanted.

too bad they didn't ask for TIF, i guarantee you'd love the idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 21, 2016, 09:01:55 PM
it would have been amazing and worth it for all of clams' "QuickTif" references alone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2016, 09:12:06 PM
How did they change the qt on 80th?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 09:30:13 PM
How did they change the qt on 80th?

oh you mean the Flying J truckstop?  it's so abhorrent :(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2016, 09:37:41 PM
It's my local neighborhood qt so I'm curious 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 09:41:53 PM
nothing, my point is that it is just fine and the neighborhood is just fine too
somehow though, the busiest qt in town can't expand because it's too truckstopy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2016, 09:44:34 PM
oh yeah, it is pretty great.  i go to the one on smp & martindale at lunch sometimes and like it better but it's just bigger and newer (truckstoppy)

but man, yeah that 80th locash has satisfied many a libliblibliblibliblib munchie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 10:02:32 PM
oh yeah, it is pretty great.  i go to the one on smp & martindale at lunch sometimes and like it better but it's just bigger and newer (truckstoppy)

but man, yeah that 80th locash has satisfied many a libliblibliblibliblib munchie

shawnee's plan is such a joke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2016, 04:06:33 AM
Closing streets for a gas station is a non starter for me.... It looks like a truck stop. Needs to be a better scale. Doesn't fit the midtown plan.

nicest thing on the block and gtfo with that stupid midtown plan.  my neighborhood, my decision- similar to the streetcar, k

Gotta demand better clams.... Don't accept every hussie.   The midtown plan was approved by your hood...so if you don't agree go knock on your neighbors door... I'm just trying to support what you guys wanted.

too bad they didn't ask for TIF, i guarantee you'd love the idea

Here is how they expand it and make it fit the neighborhood.... Take the corner property that is a bombed out gas station... Move the QT building to the front of the street. Move the pumps where the store is now. Makes the QT more accessible to pedestrians, doesn't interrupt the street grid, fits the midtown neighborhood plan,  doesn't tear down residential, more room for me to buy my ice tea.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 22, 2016, 11:54:02 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 22, 2016, 12:29:42 PM
Waldo is so hood WC08. Sorry I didn't warn you. You probably need to get one of these ASAP

(http://winner-intl.com/wp-content/themes/theclub/img/2015-club-logo-web.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 22, 2016, 12:54:25 PM
Waldo is so hood WC08. Sorry I didn't warn you. You probably need to get one of these ASAP

(http://winner-intl.com/wp-content/themes/theclub/img/2015-club-logo-web.png)

23 cars stolen in the 64114 in the last 3 weeks, probably not a bad idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2016, 12:55:49 PM
Actually, I think the good idea here would be to leave my keys in my car, unlocked, on the ole lemon.  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 22, 2016, 12:57:38 PM
mrs wacky will do that for you one of these days
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2016, 12:59:52 PM
Pfftt. She doesn't know how to leave anything unlocked. I literally had to go home over lunch because she locked herself out of the house today. She literally had one job all day and it was not to do that. SMDH
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 22, 2016, 01:00:22 PM
Actually, I think the good idea here would be to leave my keys in my car, unlocked, on the ole lemon.  :)

my dad did that once and it actually worked!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 22, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 22, 2016, 01:18:19 PM
I do lock my car, but only because of key fobs. If I had a key fob for the house I might lock it too. Maybe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
the risk / reward for locking your house is pretty LOL, libbers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 22, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
Yeah probably
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on September 22, 2016, 02:19:15 PM
Get a keypad or something for your house
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 22, 2016, 03:38:37 PM
1) rental with like the old time 1920's original door it looks like
2) I had one at my last place and never used it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2016, 06:32:21 PM
lol

Disagree with that idea? I loved living in the west plaza, part of the reason I don't want to see it knocked down block by block so Johnny joco can have an easier run at the gas pumps.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 23, 2016, 01:00:09 PM
lot of hate for joco. weird because kansas city would be a complete dump if not for joco.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on September 23, 2016, 01:54:18 PM
lot of hate for joco. weird because kansas city would be a complete dump if not for joco.
likely a smaller version of St. Louis
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 23, 2016, 02:12:08 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 23, 2016, 02:18:46 PM
lol

Disagree with that idea? I loved living in the west plaza, part of the reason I don't want to see it knocked down block by block so Johnny joco can have an easier run at the gas pumps.

you're heart may be in the right place but, my word, that stretch of Westport Road needs to be knocked down block by block.  Curious on your thoughts about the massive JoCoesque surface parking lot and strip mall at the corner of SWTraff and WPRoad.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 23, 2016, 02:46:23 PM
lol

Disagree with that idea? I loved living in the west plaza, part of the reason I don't want to see it knocked down block by block so Johnny joco can have an easier run at the gas pumps.

you're heart may be in the right place but, my word, that stretch of Westport Road needs to be knocked down block by block.  Curious on your thoughts about the massive JoCoesque surface parking lot and strip mall at the corner of SWTraff and WPRoad.   

midtown plan, bruh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 24, 2016, 07:15:28 AM
lol

Disagree with that idea? I loved living in the west plaza, part of the reason I don't want to see it knocked down block by block so Johnny joco can have an easier run at the gas pumps.

you're heart may be in the right place but, my word, that stretch of Westport Road needs to be knocked down block by block.  Curious on your thoughts about the massive JoCoesque surface parking lot and strip mall at the corner of SWTraff and WPRoad.   

midtown plan, bruh

It predates the midtown plan. It's obviously pretty horrible. I mean record bar left even.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 24, 2016, 04:58:44 PM
record bar left because the dickhead landlord wouldn't renew their lease
the last thing that they wanted to do (and i'm friends with the owners) was to leave their space
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 24, 2016, 06:05:09 PM
record bar left because the dickhead landlord wouldn't renew their lease
the last thing that they wanted to do (and i'm friends with the owners) was to leave their space


The strip mall sucks none the less. It's development predates the midtown plan created to keep those type of messes from happening again.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 07, 2016, 12:31:46 PM
1,000,000th #kcstreetcar rider today  :party:

5 months after launch.... Based on initial ridership projections, this mark would have been hit in 12 months.  Bring on the expansion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 07, 2016, 12:35:35 PM
record bar left because the dickhead landlord wouldn't renew their lease
the last thing that they wanted to do (and i'm friends with the owners) was to leave their space
look at pclams swinging his wackycat dick around
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 07, 2016, 01:22:55 PM
1,000,000th #kcstreetcar rider today  :party:

5 months after launch.... Based on initial ridership projections, this mark would have been hit in 12 months.  Bring on the expansion.
it's so weird because every car i see has about 6 people on it
but sure, i'll believe the marketing firms #'s
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 07, 2016, 01:43:36 PM
it's so weird because every car i see has about 6 people on it
but sure, i'll believe the marketing firms #'s

how many cars do you see on a weekly basis?  I work in the downtown core and it always seems pretty full. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 07, 2016, 02:06:46 PM
1,000,000th #kcstreetcar rider today  :party:

5 months after launch.... Based on initial ridership projections, this mark would have been hit in 12 months.  Bring on the expansion.
it's so weird because every car i see has about 6 people on it
but sure, i'll believe the marketing firms #'s

Now imagine when it actually goes somewhere how many people with falsely ride it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 07, 2016, 02:27:36 PM
KC Street Car- 1,000,000 survivors and counting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 07, 2016, 02:29:53 PM
it's not like my opinion counts so who cares! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 07, 2016, 02:34:43 PM
I think sly takes your opinion very seriously 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 07, 2016, 02:35:45 PM
clams just cannot fathom a world where people actually want to ride around downtown in the peaky blinder express
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on October 07, 2016, 03:38:14 PM
def channels his anger on it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on October 07, 2016, 03:50:56 PM
Kc baby
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on October 07, 2016, 03:52:27 PM
K mf'ing C
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on October 07, 2016, 04:17:30 PM
clams just cannot fathom a world where people actually want to ride around downtown in the peaky blinder express
ok that's NOT what it's called :nono:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2016, 04:29:58 PM
I have rode it twice  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 07, 2016, 04:40:36 PM
mocat really hangs off the coat tails of that great show puni found
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 16, 2016, 09:48:48 AM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/invisible-bugs-are-falling-from-the-trees-in-kansas-cityand-they-bite-1476198424?mod=e2tw

 :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2016, 11:40:40 AM
violent crime is something kc has gotten very good at
yet another murder in westport http://www.kmbc.com/article/man-killed-in-westport-shooting-late-saturday/7103963

three shootings in two weeks in kc's entertainment districts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2016, 08:23:29 AM
Zipcar added 8 cars downtown today!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2016, 10:38:49 AM
Zipcar added 8 cars downtown today!

too bad they weren't cop cars
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2016, 11:44:19 AM
Zipcar added 8 cars downtown today!

too bad they weren't cop cars

Keep your crime in midtown, we are building a nice neighborhood down here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2016, 11:49:06 AM
when there's crap to steal down there, they'll head your direction :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2016, 11:54:17 AM
when there's crap to steal down there, they'll head your direction :lol:

 :don'tcare:

Now that wacky left it might be awhile.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2016, 09:55:33 AM
another murder in the crime-infested trash dumpster of a neighborhood that is brookside

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article110522362.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article110522362.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2016, 05:43:14 PM
crime?  what crime?  STREETCAR!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2016, 06:40:28 PM
crime?  what crime?  STREETCAR!

Obviously not enough police when BKS families are killing each other over stealing the family money.  Do nothing else until crime eliminated I say!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2016, 07:04:50 PM
crime?  what crime?  STREETCAR!

Obviously not enough police when BKS families are killing each other over stealing the family money.  Do nothing else until crime eliminated I say!

blinders on! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2016, 07:17:28 PM
crime?  what crime?  STREETCAR!

Obviously not enough police when BKS families are killing each other over stealing the family money.  Do nothing else until crime eliminated I say!

blinders on!

try these blinders....police budget has grown every year under Sly....and 74% of the general fund budget goes toward public safety.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2016, 07:26:57 PM
crime?  what crime?  STREETCAR!

Obviously not enough police when BKS families are killing each other over stealing the family money.  Do nothing else until crime eliminated I say!

blinders on!

try these blinders....police budget has grown every year under Sly....and 74% of the general fund budget goes toward public safety.

oh good, so KC doesn't have a crime problem.  got it, thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2016, 07:33:02 PM
crime?  what crime?  STREETCAR!

Obviously not enough police when BKS families are killing each other over stealing the family money.  Do nothing else until crime eliminated I say!

blinders on!

try these blinders....police budget has grown every year under Sly....and 74% of the general fund budget goes toward public safety.

oh good, so KC doesn't have a crime problem.  got it, thanks for the update.

The crime problem isn't the amount of money we're spending on cops.  The KCMO crime problem IMO comes down to:

- Police under state control
- Decades of school failures emptying schools
- Lack of jobs in the urban core / transportation to the available jobs
- Parents that don't care / aren't in the house
- Streetcar of death
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2016, 07:49:10 PM
more bullshit.  again, your world is a very weird place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 07:49:47 PM
It's obvious that the city should issue every citizen a gun so they can judge criminals when needed.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2016, 08:08:22 PM
more bullshit.  again, your world is a very weird place.

Good talk as always 'clams. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2016, 08:53:37 PM
it's always the same crap with you.  everything sly and company does is the best.  it's sad.

you want to fix kc's crime problem you spend more money on policing.  i don't give a crap if spending has gone up each year, it's obviously not enough.  giuliani added 7,000+ cops on the streets of new york and crime went down overnight.  it's a very simple approach.

save that schools/families garbage

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2016, 09:03:56 PM
I'm only anecdotally familiar with Giuliani's plan and success in crime reduction in NY...got a good summary article of what was done, cost, stats, etc? 

I'm not against spending more, I also don't think the only answer is throw 50% more money at the PD, when we don't even have control of it locally.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on October 26, 2016, 09:21:46 PM
What does the "we don't have control locally" mean?   Sly can't pick the police chief or what? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2016, 09:25:06 PM
This article points to PD but also other private groups getting involved to lower crime in NY - http://www.city-journal.org/html/how-new-york-became-safe-full-story-13197.html

"the Grand Central Partnership (also led by Biederman) began reducing disorder in the 75 blocks surrounding Grand Central by employing private security and hiring the homeless to clean the streets. Thirty-two more Business Improvement Districts (BIDs) were developing similar approaches in New York."

"Neighborhood organizations, too, began demanding that order be restored"

Similar to what KC has done with the Downtown CID and Main Street CID.  Neighborhood organizations seem to help too

This article points to lowering unemployment, raising minimum wage, and improved economy along with the growth in the police force in NY. http://www.nber.org/digest/jan03/w9061.html

"This study shows that a single percentage point decline in the jobless rate decreases burglary by 2.2 percent and motor vehicle theft by 1.8 percent. Increases in the real minimum wage also significantly reduce robberies and murders: 3.4 to 3.7 percent fewer robberies with a 10 percent increase in the minimum wage and 6.3 to 6.9 percent fewer murders."

This article questions how much Rudy's policies had in reducing crime http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/sep/01/how-much-credit-giuliani-due-fighting-crime/

"Independent studies generally have failed to link the tactics of the Giuliani administration with the large decrease in crime rates."

"many criminologists believe the decline in New York, as in Chicago, San Diego, Miami and elsewhere, was the result of a complex mix of social and demographic changes, including a break in the crack cocaine epidemic, an improving economy, and increased prison terms for proven lawbreakers.

Better policing tactics and policies were likely part of it, experts say, but not to the extent Giuliani claims."

This article also puts into question all the other factors that contributed - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/19/trumps-claim-attributing-the-20-year-new-york-city-crime-decline-to-giulianis-policies/

Finally this presentation from KCPD does show violent crime has been dropping in KCMO since 1990

http://kcmo.gov/police/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/02/HistoricalViolentCrimePresentationFinal.pdf

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2016, 09:29:27 PM
What does the "we don't have control locally" mean?   Sly can't pick the police chief or what?

Here is a good summary article...basically yes, the state picks the board (minus the mayor) that has control over KCPD operations.  We're the only major city in America in this situation and it all stems from the Pendergast era where he used the police force for his own personal interests.

http://www.kmbc.com/article/forte-favors-continued-state-control-of-kcpd/3678043
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2016, 09:33:07 PM
forte is an abject failure and needs to kick rocks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2016, 09:36:41 PM
forte is an abject failure and needs to kick rocks

Agreed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 26, 2016, 09:43:40 PM
Move to joco where the cities aren't run by pay-to-play gangsters and their cronies. Kcmo has been a rough ridin' joke since the 30's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2016, 11:50:03 PM
Move to joco where the cities aren't run by pay-to-play gangsters and their cronies. Kcmo has been a rough ridin' joke since the 30's.

lolz @ brownbackistan, thanks for the advice FSD
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 27, 2016, 09:25:15 AM
there should be a cop on every street corner 247365 in brookside aka beirutside
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on October 27, 2016, 09:29:40 AM
crime?  what crime?  STREETCAR!

Obviously not enough police when BKS families are killing each other over stealing the family money.  Do nothing else until crime eliminated I say!

blinders on!

try these blinders....police budget has grown every year under Sly....and 74% of the general fund budget goes toward public safety.

oh good, so KC doesn't have a crime problem.  got it, thanks for the update.

The crime problem isn't the amount of money we're spending on cops.  The KCMO crime problem IMO comes down to:

- Police under state control
- Decades of school failures emptying schools
- Lack of jobs in the urban core / transportation to the available jobs
- Parents that don't care / aren't in the house
- Streetcar of death
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 02, 2016, 06:37:54 PM
Having to endure twice as many political commercials during election years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 02, 2016, 07:10:30 PM
Having to endure twice as many political commercials during election years.

yeah, wow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 04, 2016, 08:54:27 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article112306362.html

Some more streetcar propaganda - some poor journalist prob strong-armed by the mayor into writing the thing.  apparently, bunch of dumbass business owners believe streetcar has been good for business. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2016, 08:55:48 AM
We need to search the Podesta emails for KC street car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on November 04, 2016, 09:00:37 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article112306362.html

Some more streetcar propaganda - some poor journalist prob strong-armed by the mayor into writing the thing.  apparently, bunch of dumbass business owners believe streetcar has been good for business.

Crossroads business owners are in on it. Just part of the machine now. Sad


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 10:16:41 AM
Gross.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 04, 2016, 10:30:47 AM
I remember going to the Main Street Morgue haunted house when I was a kid.  The good ol days.  sigh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 12:08:17 PM
it's so weird to see the kc cheerleader star promoting the streetcar
without that piece I would have no idea that the streetcar has been perfect.  my own eyes even lie, I see the streetcar daily, usually with 1-2 people on it, but hey- kc cheerleader star knows what's up better than my eyeballs (perfect vision fwiw) and every downtown business loves it unconditionally and will forever even after the novelty wears off  and it's smart to divert cars off of main street to make room for the streetcar/savior of kc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 12:15:20 PM
it's so weird to see the kc cheerleader star promoting the streetcar
without that piece I would have no idea that the streetcar has been perfect.  my own eyes even lie, I see the streetcar daily, usually with 1-2 people on it, but hey- kc cheerleader star knows what's up better than my eyeballs (perfect vision fwiw) and every downtown business loves it unconditionally and will forever even after the novelty wears off  and it's smart to divert cars off of main street to make room for the streetcar/savior of kc.

dax, how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception, based on your eyeballs? i want to know how far off they are with the "1 millionth" rider BS from last month
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 12:29:35 PM
it's so weird to see the kc cheerleader star promoting the streetcar
without that piece I would have no idea that the streetcar has been perfect.  my own eyes even lie, I see the streetcar daily, usually with 1-2 people on it, but hey- kc cheerleader star knows what's up better than my eyeballs (perfect vision fwiw) and every downtown business loves it unconditionally and will forever even after the novelty wears off  and it's smart to divert cars off of main street to make room for the streetcar/savior of kc.

Lol at there being traffic on main Street or any other downtown street.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 12:34:04 PM
congrats on your acquisition of the kc star bro titola, sadly tho print media is deader than de la soul
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
it's so weird to see the kc cheerleader star promoting the streetcar
without that piece I would have no idea that the streetcar has been perfect.  my own eyes even lie, I see the streetcar daily, usually with 1-2 people on it, but hey- kc cheerleader star knows what's up better than my eyeballs (perfect vision fwiw) and every downtown business loves it unconditionally and will forever even after the novelty wears off  and it's smart to divert cars off of main street to make room for the streetcar/savior of kc.

dax, how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception, based on your eyeballs? i want to know how far off they are with the "1 millionth" rider BS from last month

lol great work as always browncat
whats your estimate?  10 million plus?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 12:37:21 PM
congrats on your acquisition of the kc star bro titola, sadly tho print media is deader than de la soul

Readership up 20% with the streetcar I'm hearing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 12:38:46 PM
The math to get to 6k average daily riders with 18+ hours of operation and ten minute headways doesn't come out to full cars every run....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 12:39:33 PM
it's so weird to see the kc cheerleader star promoting the streetcar
without that piece I would have no idea that the streetcar has been perfect.  my own eyes even lie, I see the streetcar daily, usually with 1-2 people on it, but hey- kc cheerleader star knows what's up better than my eyeballs (perfect vision fwiw) and every downtown business loves it unconditionally and will forever even after the novelty wears off  and it's smart to divert cars off of main street to make room for the streetcar/savior of kc.

dax, how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception, based on your eyeballs? i want to know how far off they are with the "1 millionth" rider BS from last month

lol great work as always browncat
whats your estimate?  10 million plus?

no i don't have one, i just want to know yours
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 12:41:58 PM
congrats on your acquisition of the kc star bro titola, sadly tho print media is deader than de la soul

Readership up 20% with the streetcar I'm hearing.

all the blue hairs from gardner getting to see your shiny green glass building for the first time has sparked renewed interest, another streetcar miracle!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 12:47:39 PM
it's so weird to see the kc cheerleader star promoting the streetcar
without that piece I would have no idea that the streetcar has been perfect.  my own eyes even lie, I see the streetcar daily, usually with 1-2 people on it, but hey- kc cheerleader star knows what's up better than my eyeballs (perfect vision fwiw) and every downtown business loves it unconditionally and will forever even after the novelty wears off  and it's smart to divert cars off of main street to make room for the streetcar/savior of kc.

dax, how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception, based on your eyeballs? i want to know how far off they are with the "1 millionth" rider BS from last month

lol great work as always browncat
whats your estimate?  10 million plus?

no i don't have one, i just want to know yours

i wonder if you're smart enough to guess if I think it's a million, or if it's higher than that, or if it's lower than that.  i really do wonder that.  you're the math wiz, hence me asking you your estimate.
i wonder if questioning inflated numbers supplied/counted by the proponents of the streetcar is a good idea.  they want to tell us that they told us so, so badly. puff pieces like this certainly don't keep getting run to lobby support against the expansion- or do they?  or is this news?  maybe that's it, this is news.  we haven't repeatedly been told by every news outlet willing to listen to a waxed moustache that the streetcar is a resounding success.  i get it now.  i'll be watching CNN's ticker for their update.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
i was just confused because i thought you had a better estimate based on your eyeballs.

but then again we can't always trust our eyeballs, especially since dumbass business owners like kcfdcat obviously have had the wool pulled over theirs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
Automated people counters were independently verified by manual counters and showed the automated counters were undercounting people :ck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 01:13:32 PM
Automated people counters were independently verified by manual counters and showed the automated counters were undercounting people :ck:

I'm sure they were, sly titola

i was just confused because i thought you had a better estimate based on your eyeballs.

but then again we can't always trust our eyeballs, especially since dumbass business owners like kcfdcat obviously have had the wool pulled over theirs

so, you're deflecting.  stay brown, bro.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 01:14:27 PM
Automated people counters were independently verified by manual counters and showed the automated counters were undercounting people :ck:

who paid for the counters, and the audit of said counters?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 01:29:16 PM
i was just confused because i thought you had a better estimate based on your eyeballs.

but then again we can't always trust our eyeballs, especially since dumbass business owners like kcfdcat obviously have had the wool pulled over theirs

so, you're deflecting.  stay brown, bro.

are you being for serious? you straight up called out the star as lying and i asked you for an estimate, and your response was to ask me for my estimate?  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
it's so weird to see the kc cheerleader star promoting the streetcar
without that piece I would have no idea that the streetcar has been perfect.  my own eyes even lie, I see the streetcar daily, usually with 1-2 people on it, but hey- kc cheerleader star knows what's up better than my eyeballs (perfect vision fwiw) and every downtown business loves it unconditionally and will forever even after the novelty wears off  and it's smart to divert cars off of main street to make room for the streetcar/savior of kc.

dax, how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception, based on your eyeballs? i want to know how far off they are with the "1 millionth" rider BS from last month

lol great work as always browncat
whats your estimate?  10 million plus?

no i don't have one, i just want to know yours

i wonder if you're smart enough to guess if I think it's a million, or if it's higher than that, or if it's lower than that.  i really do wonder that.  you're the math wiz, hence me asking you your estimate.
i wonder if questioning inflated numbers supplied/counted by the proponents of the streetcar is a good idea.  they want to tell us that they told us so, so badly. puff pieces like this certainly don't keep getting run to lobby support against the expansion- or do they?  or is this news?  maybe that's it, this is news.  we haven't repeatedly been told by every news outlet willing to listen to a waxed moustache that the streetcar is a resounding success.  i get it now.  i'll be watching CNN's ticker for their update.

no deflecting ^
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 01:33:02 PM
i was just confused because i thought you had a better estimate based on your eyeballs.

but then again we can't always trust our eyeballs, especially since dumbass business owners like kcfdcat obviously have had the wool pulled over theirs

so, you're deflecting.  stay brown, bro.

are you being for serious? you straight up called out the star as lying and i asked you for an estimate, and your response was to ask me for my estimate?  :lol:

your reading comprehension is about as good as your math bro mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 01:34:30 PM
the fact that the streetcar is doing well has turned pissdax into a complete flailing lunatic, because before ground was broken he decided it was going to fail. now when the only evidence (besides his eyeballs) that we have is saying the streetcar is doing well, dax has nowhere to go but psycho. Until, of course, winter hits and the ridership goes down and then all of a sudden the numbers will be legit and he can LOL at the streetcar jackboots for constantly obfuscating. it's so............sad, really
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 01:37:10 PM
Automated people counters were independently verified by manual counters and showed the automated counters were undercounting people :ck:

who paid for the counters, and the audit of said counters?

It's part of the streetcar QA process...but yes this is all a total conspiracy...especially given ridership numbers weren't the primary goal of the streetcar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Automated people counters were independently verified by manual counters and showed the automated counters were undercounting people :ck:

who paid for the counters, and the audit of said counters?

It's part of the streetcar QA process...but yes this is all a total conspiracy...especially given ridership numbers weren't the primary goal of the streetcar.

but they're the primary indicator of success?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 01:38:41 PM
the fact that the streetcar is doing well has turned pissdax into a complete flailing lunatic, because before ground was broken he decided it was going to fail. now when the only evidence (besides his eyeballs) that we have is saying the streetcar is doing well, dax has nowhere to go but psycho. Until, of course, winter hits and the ridership goes down and then all of a sudden the numbers will be legit and he can LOL at the streetcar jackboots for constantly obfuscating. it's so............sad, really

stay brown bro
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 01:40:00 PM
dax, how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception, based on your eyeballs? i want to know how far off they are with the "1 millionth" rider BS from last month
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 01:46:28 PM
love the "dax" angle you're pushing, only you would have thought of something so clever.  pop up your feet and stay back from the keyboard, that thing has to be smoking right about now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 01:47:49 PM
dax, how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception, based on your eyeballs? i want to know how far off they are with the "1 millionth" rider BS from last month
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 01:51:03 PM
maybe just the meaty parts:

how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
Automated people counters were independently verified by manual counters and showed the automated counters were undercounting people :ck:

who paid for the counters, and the audit of said counters?

It's part of the streetcar QA process...but yes this is all a total conspiracy...especially given ridership numbers weren't the primary goal of the streetcar.

but they're the primary indicator of success?

No...it is probably the easiest thing for people to point to though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2016, 02:01:51 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article112306362.html

Some more streetcar propaganda - some poor journalist prob strong-armed by the mayor into writing the thing.  apparently, bunch of dumbass business owners believe streetcar has been good for business. 

LOL only in KC would new public transit lead to complaints about parking
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 04, 2016, 02:04:44 PM
I'll bet this Michael’s Fine Clothes character is a Sly shill planted to spread the propaganda.  Prob not even a real store.  Started by a "Russian immigrant grandfather" - around since 1905.  heh - unlikely.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 02:04:59 PM
Exactly....many of us are fighting that garage and pointing to the very fact that business is booming to NOT build more garages.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 02:05:42 PM
I'll bet this Michael’s Fine Clothes character is a Sly shill planted to spread the propaganda.  Prob not even a real store.  Started by a "Russian immigrant grandfather" - around since 1905.  heh - unlikely.

Trump is involved you are saying??!?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Automated people counters were independently verified by manual counters and showed the automated counters were undercounting people :ck:

who paid for the counters, and the audit of said counters?

It's part of the streetcar QA process...but yes this is all a total conspiracy...especially given ridership numbers weren't the primary goal of the streetcar.

but they're the primary indicator of success?

No...it is probably the easiest thing for people to point to though

and easy is good for the pro-streetcar contingent

an objective person like myself would argue that it's too early to measure the streetcar's success or failure

pro tip- the key word in the above sentence is "objective"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on November 04, 2016, 02:24:13 PM
the fact that the streetcar is doing well has turned pissdax into a complete flailing lunatic, because before ground was broken he decided it was going to fail. now when the only evidence (besides his eyeballs) that we have is saying the streetcar is doing well, dax has nowhere to go but psycho. Until, of course, winter hits and the ridership goes down and then all of a sudden the numbers will be legit and he can LOL at the streetcar jackboots for constantly obfuscating. it's so............sad, really

well this is a five star post
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 04, 2016, 02:26:14 PM

and easy is good for the pro-streetcar contingent

an objective person like myself would argue that it's too early to measure the streetcar's success or failure

pro tip- the key word in the above sentence is "objective"

Would an objective person dismiss out of hand the opinions, observations, and first-hand accounts of business owners situated along the starter line? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 02:46:03 PM
I mean we literally have a downtown business owner on this blog saying he likes the streetcar and it has, in part, helped his business and 'clams just keeps yammering about how businesses hate the streetcar. It's truly daxian  :lol:

lib^7 inception'd me with the dax thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 04, 2016, 02:46:46 PM
the fact that the streetcar is doing well has turned pissdax into a complete flailing lunatic, because before ground was broken he decided it was going to fail. now when the only evidence (besides his eyeballs) that we have is saying the streetcar is doing well, dax has nowhere to go but psycho. Until, of course, winter hits and the ridership goes down and then all of a sudden the numbers will be legit and he can LOL at the streetcar jackboots for constantly obfuscating. it's so............sad, really

well this is a five star post

Obfuscating was really really elite
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 02:59:14 PM

and easy is good for the pro-streetcar contingent

an objective person like myself would argue that it's too early to measure the streetcar's success or failure

pro tip- the key word in the above sentence is "objective"

Would an objective person dismiss out of hand the opinions, observations, and first-hand accounts of business owners situated along the starter line? 

business owners situated along the starter line aren't objective, any other brain teasers?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 04, 2016, 03:07:34 PM
Automated people counters were independently verified by manual counters and showed the automated counters were undercounting people :ck:

who paid for the counters, and the audit of said counters?

It's part of the streetcar QA process...but yes this is all a total conspiracy...especially given ridership numbers weren't the primary goal of the streetcar.

but they're the primary indicator of success?

No...it is probably the easiest thing for people to point to though

and easy is good for the pro-streetcar contingent

an objective person like myself would argue that it's too early to measure the streetcar's success or failure

pro tip- the key word in the above sentence is "objective"

Objective? Lol.

Anyways...yes it is early to declare the streetcar a runaway success or an absolute failure.  Based on the development, surface lots changing to buildings, jobs coming into downtown, increasing convention business, and yes ridership...signs are positive.

I am of the opinion if the line doesn't extend, it will not be a success long term.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 04, 2016, 03:45:24 PM

business owners situated along the starter line aren't objective, any other brain teasers?

how do you measure the economic impact of the line - positive or negative - if you ignore the data provided by the business owners situated along the line?   

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 05:59:07 PM
I am of the opinion if the line doesn't extend, it will not be a success long term.

so that's the flaw with, and one reason why i have issue with, the way this was funded.  if, for this to be net positive for the city, it requires the extension  to be built, then the whole thing should have been voted/approved in whole.  the initial line should be able to stand on its own if that's the way the vote was approved.  there's no telling what happens in the future or if the extension will be approved.  it's easy to say now that without the extension, this won't be successful long term.  "well gosh guys, we've come this far and without the extension we won't see the economic impact we promised"  - city hall would never admit what you did, it's against fiscal policy, and shockingly, even KCMO has one.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 04, 2016, 06:03:11 PM
and yeah i'm objective, the money has been spent.  i'm not in this for an "i told you so" moment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 07:39:04 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on November 04, 2016, 07:53:31 PM
If only those big city snobs from New York could see us now.  We have a World Series and public transit arguments.

SUCK IT METS!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on November 04, 2016, 09:14:15 PM
Street car baby
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on November 04, 2016, 09:16:25 PM
It's a car that runs on the street, that's pretty great, I like it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on November 04, 2016, 09:17:11 PM
What an idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on November 04, 2016, 09:19:29 PM
Look outside, sly.  Already a bunch of cars on the street. 

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 04, 2016, 09:19:48 PM
It's actually kinda trainy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on November 04, 2016, 11:40:54 PM
Only cool if it is the rice-a-roni kind
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2016, 02:56:25 AM
I am of the opinion if the line doesn't extend, it will not be a success long term.

so that's the flaw with, and one reason why i have issue with, the way this was funded.  if, for this to be net positive for the city, it requires the extension  to be built, then the whole thing should have been voted/approved in whole.  the initial line should be able to stand on its own if that's the way the vote was approved.  there's no telling what happens in the future or if the extension will be approved.  it's easy to say now that without the extens YBion, this won't be successful long term.  "well gosh guys, we've come this far and without the extension we won't see the economic impact we promised"  - city hall would never admit what you did, it's against fiscal policy, and shockingly, even KCMO has one.

You read way more into my statement than I said...as it stands it's a total win for KC as downtown is an economic generator...and how it was funded is fair as the parties that benefit most with the line are paying for it....but to be a long term win it needs to extend....and those extensions still should be paid by those who benefit most from it....not taxing the whole city for it.....why should the Northland property tax increase for an urban streetcar? On the flip side, why are we in the urban core paying for infrastructure additions in the Northland to support sparse residential developments?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 05, 2016, 10:40:36 AM
I am of the opinion if the line doesn't extend, it will not be a success long term.

so that's the flaw with, and one reason why i have issue with, the way this was funded.  if, for this to be net positive for the city, it requires the extension  to be built, then the whole thing should have been voted/approved in whole.  the initial line should be able to stand on its own if that's the way the vote was approved.  there's no telling what happens in the future or if the extension will be approved.  it's easy to say now that without the extens YBion, this won't be successful long term.  "well gosh guys, we've come this far and without the extension we won't see the economic impact we promised"  - city hall would never admit what you did, it's against fiscal policy, and shockingly, even KCMO has one.

You read way more into my statement than I said...as it stands it's a total win for KC as downtown is an economic generator...and how it was funded is fair as the parties that benefit most with the line are paying for it....but to be a long term win it needs to extend....and those extensions still should be paid by those who benefit most from it....not taxing the whole city for it.....why should the Northland property tax increase for an urban streetcar? On the flip side, why are we in the urban core paying for infrastructure additions in the Northland to support sparse residential developments?

the northland is awful, they should be given away to Nebraska
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 07, 2016, 01:45:33 PM
we took the streetcar from River Market to Sprint Center the other night.    It was a good trip and busy.    My only dislike was not being able to see forward in the car with the tinted windows.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 07, 2016, 05:32:57 PM
finally

kcps have earned enough points to become accredited.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article113037663.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2016, 06:00:29 PM
finally

kcps have earned enough points to become accredited.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article113037663.html

We can all agree this is great news.  Glad Sly could make it happen  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2016, 07:38:03 PM
great job sly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on November 07, 2016, 08:42:15 PM
stud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 07, 2016, 09:25:10 PM
 :cheers: Sly!

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2016, 07:54:43 AM
what's going in at 14th-13th and Baltimore, more apartments, condos?  both?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 08, 2016, 08:47:21 AM
what's going in at 14th-13th and Baltimore, more apartments, condos?  both?

Part of the Power&Light development.  Believe 100% apartments.  nice to have some density there - was a surface lot forever. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 08, 2016, 08:48:00 AM
Vertical streetcar I think
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2016, 08:52:23 AM
Vertical streetcar I think

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on November 08, 2016, 08:55:06 AM
what's going in at 14th-13th and Baltimore, more apartments, condos?  both?

Part of the Power&Light development.  Believe 100% apartments.  nice to have some density there - was a surface lot forever.

Oh hell yes.  Could be a good investment property opportunity for those that like making lots of $$$
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2016, 09:15:11 AM
Yes all apartments. Would really love to see some new condos built, I can't think of one downtown project that has been condos in years....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2016, 09:29:08 AM
i wonder what city planners want from an owner occupied/renter ratio.  lots of transient living being built.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2016, 09:41:17 AM
i wonder what city planners want from an owner occupied/renter ratio.  lots of transient living being built.

Not sure ....ive never seen it publicly stated. The problem with owner occupied multi family builds are the regulations to lenders around it...demand is there as any condo unit that goes on the market is usually snatched up quickly. That said, downtown will probably always be mostly transient in my lifetime downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2016, 09:48:19 AM
3k condo units downtown....5k rentals (half income restricted)...2k more apartments under construction and 2k units planned as of the 2015 housing report (more have been announced since then)...all rentals....the 2016 version should be out soon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2016, 10:07:48 AM
fha relaxed lending rules on non owner occupied condos but ya, i think that kc ratio is off balance

the 64112 was never as bad as downtown but what happened was the apartments aged and developers came in and bought, then flipped, then sold as condos and that caused an apartment shortage and rents went way up, then new developers came in and built new apts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2016, 12:07:31 PM
fha relaxed lending rules on non owner occupied condos but ya, i think that kc ratio is off balance

the 64112 was never as bad as downtown but what happened was the apartments aged and developers came in and bought, then flipped, then sold as condos and that caused an apartment shortage and rents went way up, then new developers came in and built new apts.

Used to live in a 64112 that is about the end of its apartment days and needs to be flipped to condos.

It's not just the FHA rules that were and still are holding back condo construction...but some of it is also that KC is more of an unknown in condo demand.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 09:25:27 AM
waldo carjacking but no crime in waldo
http://fox4kc.com/2016/11/09/victims-recall-terrifying-carjacking-in-which-one-man-was-shot-in-the-leg-outside-quintons-bar-in-waldo/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 10, 2016, 09:26:33 AM
what are they building to the east of 35 at the West Pennway exit?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 09:33:38 AM
i thought it was a bridge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 10, 2016, 09:47:42 AM
waldo carjacking but no crime in waldo
http://fox4kc.com/2016/11/09/victims-recall-terrifying-carjacking-in-which-one-man-was-shot-in-the-leg-outside-quintons-bar-in-waldo/

clams, what is your goal in constantly running down waldo? what are you just hoping to accomplish with posts like these?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 10, 2016, 09:51:23 AM
waldo carjacking but no crime in waldo
http://fox4kc.com/2016/11/09/victims-recall-terrifying-carjacking-in-which-one-man-was-shot-in-the-leg-outside-quintons-bar-in-waldo/

clams, what is your goal in constantly running down waldo? what are you just hoping to accomplish with posts like these?

(I would guess) he's trying to bring attention to a problem, so that it may be addressed and fixed to the benefit of everyone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 09:51:43 AM
Still no crime in my waldohood
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
what are they building to the east of 35 at the West Pennway exit?

apartments

http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/ (http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 10:01:02 AM
waldo carjacking but no crime in waldo
http://fox4kc.com/2016/11/09/victims-recall-terrifying-carjacking-in-which-one-man-was-shot-in-the-leg-outside-quintons-bar-in-waldo/

clams, what is your goal in constantly running down waldo? what are you just hoping to accomplish with posts like these?

crushing the ever loving pulp out of the "no crime in waldo" argument
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 10:03:48 AM
waldo carjacking but no crime in waldo
http://fox4kc.com/2016/11/09/victims-recall-terrifying-carjacking-in-which-one-man-was-shot-in-the-leg-outside-quintons-bar-in-waldo/

clams, what is your goal in constantly running down waldo? what are you just hoping to accomplish with posts like these?

hmm, waldo = royals thread.  two things you can't say anything negative about or else you'll deal with cf3's wrath. 

what am i hoping to accomplish?  maybe the opposite of you (hear no/see know/speak no).  it was especially funny when you tried to claim that wc08's shoes weren't stolen lol.

he asked about the crime in the area, i gave the crime reports (of which there's a shitload), and you denied it.  love the area all that you want.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 10:04:53 AM
what are they building to the east of 35 at the West Pennway exit?

apartments

http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/ (http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/)


you just crushed the ever living crap out of my bridge assumption.  i thought they were making a new broadway bridge or something.

any clue when the work on SW boulevard is supposed to complete?  massive pita.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 10:07:29 AM
what are they building to the east of 35 at the West Pennway exit?

apartments

http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/ (http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/)


you just crushed the ever living crap out of my bridge assumption.  i thought they were making a new broadway bridge or something.

any clue when the work on SW boulevard is supposed to complete?  massive pita.

no idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 10:16:44 AM
what are they building to the east of 35 at the West Pennway exit?

apartments

http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/ (http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/)


you just crushed the ever living crap out of my bridge assumption.  i thought they were making a new broadway bridge or something.

any clue when the work on SW boulevard is supposed to complete?  massive pita.

They finished the new bridge a few weeks ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 10, 2016, 10:19:25 AM
waldo carjacking but no crime in waldo
http://fox4kc.com/2016/11/09/victims-recall-terrifying-carjacking-in-which-one-man-was-shot-in-the-leg-outside-quintons-bar-in-waldo/

clams, what is your goal in constantly running down waldo? what are you just hoping to accomplish with posts like these?

hmm, waldo = royals thread.  two things you can't say anything negative about or else you'll deal with cf3's wrath. 

what am i hoping to accomplish?  maybe the opposite of you (hear no/see know/speak no).  it was especially funny when you tried to claim that wc08's shoes weren't stolen lol.

he asked about the crime in the area, i gave the crime reports (of which there's a shitload), and you denied it.  love the area all that you want.

I know there's crime in Waldo clams. My wife lived through the fear of a serial rapist in our neighborhood. I've had my car broken into and there are have been burglaries on my street. Excuse me for being skeptical that WC08's old fishing shoes were stolen because I couldn't imagine who would want to steal shoes that smelled so bad his wife wouldn't allow them indoors.

I don't think Waldo is perfect and we'll probably move out of here someday. Happy?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2016, 10:23:21 AM
I'm 99.9% sure I passed Lib about a week or so ago on the Trolley Trail when I was running and he was walking his dog and he instantly looked the other way. :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2016, 10:28:37 AM
Also, they were pretty sweet shoes, cf3. Fish stink or no fish stink involved.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 10, 2016, 10:31:53 AM
sorry they are gone WC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2016, 10:33:41 AM
No worries.  :D I had some back up nikes.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on November 10, 2016, 10:35:03 AM
Have you considered the possibility that it was an inside job? (Mrs. W).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 10:36:39 AM
I'm 100% sure no one has ever seen me on trolley trail
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Have you considered the possibility that it was an inside job? (Mrs. W).
I mean, she bought them for me, so that would be a little weird. She told me she wanted to throw them in the wash that day, but i'll consider all possibilities in front of me.. It could have happened. She almost threw away my Chiefs Joe Montana Jersey once.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 11:10:45 AM
Have you considered the possibility that it was an inside job? (Mrs. W).

never forget
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on November 10, 2016, 11:42:25 AM
waldo carjacking but no crime in waldo
http://fox4kc.com/2016/11/09/victims-recall-terrifying-carjacking-in-which-one-man-was-shot-in-the-leg-outside-quintons-bar-in-waldo/


A lawrence, KS affiliated bar has a patron with a puncture wound in the leg?!?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 12:33:29 PM
 :Woot:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article113889793.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article113889793.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 01:14:29 PM
waldo carjacking but no crime in waldo
http://fox4kc.com/2016/11/09/victims-recall-terrifying-carjacking-in-which-one-man-was-shot-in-the-leg-outside-quintons-bar-in-waldo/

clams, what is your goal in constantly running down waldo? what are you just hoping to accomplish with posts like these?

hmm, waldo = royals thread.  two things you can't say anything negative about or else you'll deal with cf3's wrath. 

what am i hoping to accomplish?  maybe the opposite of you (hear no/see know/speak no).  it was especially funny when you tried to claim that wc08's shoes weren't stolen lol.

he asked about the crime in the area, i gave the crime reports (of which there's a shitload), and you denied it.  love the area all that you want.

I know there's crime in Waldo clams. My wife lived through the fear of a serial rapist in our neighborhood. I've had my car broken into and there are have been burglaries on my street. Excuse me for being skeptical that WC08's old fishing shoes were stolen because I couldn't imagine who would want to steal shoes that smelled so bad his wife wouldn't allow them indoors.

I don't think Waldo is perfect and we'll probably move out of here someday. Happy?

sorry for hurting your waldo feelings and i'm perfectly happy, you're the one being uber sensitive (shocker)
if it makes you this upset then get a rough ridin' grip

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
:Woot:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article113889793.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article113889793.html)
impossible unless dependent upon the new terminal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 10, 2016, 01:21:22 PM
clams, are we cool bud?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 01:30:15 PM
:Woot:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article113889793.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article113889793.html)
impossible unless dependent upon the new terminal

i think SW was just waiting on our school accreditation to pull the trigger
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
Think how many more directs we could get if we just did the new term. P sexy if you ask me  :Jeffy:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
i like the airport the way it is for now  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 01:41:36 PM
I don't care either way, with a default positivity to new things
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 10, 2016, 01:53:24 PM
:Woot:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article113889793.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article113889793.html)
impossible unless dependent upon the new terminal

Member when kci truthers said passenger growth was a pipe dream in the reasoning for a new terminal? I member.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 01:55:17 PM
are there any other cities with ~100 passengers per day to/from kci that are not already served via nonstop route?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 10, 2016, 02:02:24 PM
I know this isn't a city....but Europe.

Be nice if we had some direct flight competition..SWA bends us over.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on November 10, 2016, 02:50:05 PM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 10, 2016, 02:52:14 PM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings

v jealous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2016, 02:55:56 PM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2016, 06:49:16 PM
You know what airport is awful to check into? Freaking Denver. What a crap show this afternoon. Good presentation tho.  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on November 10, 2016, 06:52:06 PM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2016, 06:55:00 PM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.
Yup!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 07:34:00 PM
pro-new termy folks like to pretend that other city's airports aren't gross dirty places filled with angry gross dirty people
sorry but thems facts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 07:37:01 PM
tonight i hit the mci trifecta-
1) landed 10 minutes early (delta, atl->mci)
2) of course i don't check bag, walked right out and there was the parking spot chick (perfect timing you dirty slut), in transit less than 3 mins post-deplane
3) 2nd person dropped off at parking spot (covered, of course)

bonus round:
circumvented line to leave parking spot b/c spot card

what an incredible experience
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 07:38:26 PM
almost worth a billion simoleons
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on November 10, 2016, 07:39:33 PM
that's pretty hot clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 07:43:39 PM
tonight i hit the mci trifecta-
1) landed 10 minutes early (delta, atl->mci)
2) of course i don't check bag, walked right out and there was the parking spot chick (perfect timing you dirty slut), in transit less than 3 mins post-deplane
3) 2nd person dropped off at parking spot (covered, of course)

bonus round:
circumvented line to leave parking spot b/c spot card

what an incredible experience

New term would change none of this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2016, 07:46:44 PM
tonight i hit the mci trifecta-
1) landed 10 minutes early (delta, atl->mci)
2) of course i don't check bag, walked right out and there was the parking spot chick (perfect timing you dirty slut), in transit less than 3 mins post-deplane
3) 2nd person dropped off at parking spot (covered, of course)

bonus round:
circumvented line to leave parking spot b/c spot card

what an incredible experience

New term would change none of this

seems pretty unnecessary then
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2016, 10:44:22 PM
tonight i hit the mci trifecta-
1) landed 10 minutes early (delta, atl->mci)
2) of course i don't check bag, walked right out and there was the parking spot chick (perfect timing you dirty slut), in transit less than 3 mins post-deplane
3) 2nd person dropped off at parking spot (covered, of course)

bonus round:
circumvented line to leave parking spot b/c spot card

what an incredible experience
Sounds amazing friend. About to experience this in 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2016, 10:46:02 PM
tonight i hit the mci trifecta-
1) landed 10 minutes early (delta, atl->mci)
2) of course i don't check bag, walked right out and there was the parking spot chick (perfect timing you dirty slut), in transit less than 3 mins post-deplane
3) 2nd person dropped off at parking spot (covered, of course)

bonus round:
circumvented line to leave parking spot b/c spot card

what an incredible experience

New term would change none of this

seems pretty unnecessary then
:lol: body bag for lib!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 10, 2016, 11:58:19 PM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.

LOL no.  Even worse than horrible. Congrats you've learned how to deal with the KCI shitshow but that doesn't mean it's the best of anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 12:02:15 AM
tonight i hit the mci trifecta-
1) landed 10 minutes early (delta, atl->mci)
2) of course i don't check bag, walked right out and there was the parking spot chick (perfect timing you dirty slut), in transit less than 3 mins post-deplane
3) 2nd person dropped off at parking spot (covered, of course)

bonus round:
circumvented line to leave parking spot b/c spot card

what an incredible experience

New term would change none of this

seems pretty unnecessary then

1) you would have landed in the time you wanted to land with more competition
2) you wouldn't have had to take a shuttle
3) see #2

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2016, 08:01:16 AM
tonight i hit the mci trifecta-
1) landed 10 minutes early (delta, atl->mci)
2) of course i don't check bag, walked right out and there was the parking spot chick (perfect timing you dirty slut), in transit less than 3 mins post-deplane
3) 2nd person dropped off at parking spot (covered, of course)

bonus round:
circumvented line to leave parking spot b/c spot card

what an incredible experience

New term would change none of this

seems pretty unnecessary then

1) you would have landed in the time you wanted to land with more competition
2) you wouldn't have had to take a shuttle
3) see #2



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 09:20:29 AM
Guys I rode the streetcar of death last night and for one stop I was the only person on it...what a waste!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 09:21:39 AM
tonight i hit the mci trifecta-
1) landed 10 minutes early (delta, atl->mci)
2) of course i don't check bag, walked right out and there was the parking spot chick (perfect timing you dirty slut), in transit less than 3 mins post-deplane
3) 2nd person dropped off at parking spot (covered, of course)

bonus round:
circumvented line to leave parking spot b/c spot card

what an incredible experience

New term would change none of this

seems pretty unnecessary then

1) you would have landed in the time you wanted to land with more competition
2) you wouldn't have had to take a shuttle
3) see #2



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0

Anecdotal stories are the best way to make decisions...thanks clams for resolving the airport issue!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2016, 09:51:16 AM
there is no airport issue but thanks for trying to fabricate one!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:01:52 AM
there is no airport issue but thanks for trying to fabricate one!

It's fine.... You would have been a great mayor in the 80s not addressing our sewer problem

Can't wait for interest rates to go up and address this later
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2016, 10:07:28 AM
like i said, there's nothing to address
and who cares about interest rates, it's not our money - remember?
and who cares about the sewer problem, we have a streetcar. the taxes raised from the new businesses developed along the streetcar line should offset the cost of the airport and the sewer line, right?  oh, what's that? we TIF'd the development along the streetcar line? well the new hotel we are paying for will bring in new conventions to KC and those dollars will help offset the costs.  except our cost per conventioneer are higher than other cities b/c we signed a sweetheart deal with hyatt awarding them all the banquet business and we're not competitive vs other cities?  yikes, it's quite the conundrum we find ourselves in.  smdh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 11, 2016, 10:09:35 AM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.

canco.  Literally the only bad feature is the parking at term B but take a car service and problem solved
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on November 11, 2016, 10:15:49 AM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.

Yup, I can literally show up in the economy lot 30 minutes before my flight left, chase down a bus, get into B terminal and through security like a boss right at last call with 10 minutes to spare. Name another airport of similar size you can do that in. Don't recommend doing that FWIW but still, would never happen anywhere else. Not disagreeing that the airport itself if kind of a POS, but so few people actually connect through it relative to those going in and out.

If you want to piss 'clams off properly extend the streetcar down to the plaza TIA. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2016, 10:16:46 AM
Airports are probably viewed differently by locals that have to use them to fly out vs. organizations that need to fly people in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 11, 2016, 10:17:44 AM
Airports are probably viewed differently by locals that have to use them to fly out vs. organizations that need to fly people in.

and people that connect through n which case mci is probably awful
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2016, 10:20:11 AM
Airports are probably viewed differently by locals that have to use them to fly out vs. organizations that need to fly people in.

and people that connect through n which case mci is probably awful

Yeah, but are there actually itineraries that connect thru kc?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 11, 2016, 10:22:41 AM
Airports are probably viewed differently by locals that have to use them to fly out vs. organizations that need to fly people in.

and people that connect through n which case mci is probably awful

Yeah, but are there actually itineraries that connect thru kc?

on southwest, yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 11, 2016, 10:28:28 AM
Airports are probably viewed differently by locals that have to use them to fly out vs. organizations that need to fly people in.

and people that connect through n which case mci is probably awful

Yeah, but are there actually itineraries that connect thru kc?

on southwest, yes

maybe southwest should pay for the new airport then. I mean you guys are Kansas city so who cares. not exactly dallas or Chicago or anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:29:05 AM
oh man this is classic clams...full of all kinds of fun misinformation

like i said, there's nothing to address
and who cares about interest rates, it's not our money - remember?

The bill becomes higher to airlines, they are less likely to back the debt.  On top of that, nobody has ever said fees (landing, parking, etc) paid by travelers wouldn't be used as part of the funding....

Quote
and who cares about the sewer problem, we have a streetcar.

The sewer problem is already in year 5 of being fixed...someone so worried about the sewers, I figured you'd know that.

Quote
the taxes raised from the new businesses developed along the streetcar line should offset the cost of the airport and the sewer line, right?

airport can't be paid with taxes from new businesses, sewer replacement is funded by user fees so yes more development helps that funding.

Quote
  oh, what's that? we TIF'd the development along the streetcar line?

sewer fees aren't part of a TIF....taxes that are TIF'd can't be used for airports.

well the new hotel we are paying for will bring in new conventions to KC and those dollars will help offset the costs.  except our cost per conventioneer are higher than other cities b/c we signed a sweetheart deal with hyatt awarding them all the banquet business and we're not competitive vs other cities?  [/quote]

this is just inaccurate.  The uptick in convention business since the Hyatt announcement that depends on the Hyatt being built is one data point....exclusive caterers at convention centers is not unique.

Quote
yikes, it's quite the conundrum we find ourselves in.  smdh.

Not really...but again, you would have been a great mayor in the 80s acting like we didn't have a problem to fix...great job Berkley'clams!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 11, 2016, 10:29:11 AM
i stopped using the parking spot. uber right to the gate, baby.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:29:57 AM
i stopped using the parking spot. uber right to the gate, baby.

Only way to go....tried all the parking options, they all suck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:31:58 AM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.

Yup, I can literally show up in the economy lot 30 minutes before my flight left, chase down a bus, get into B terminal and through security like a boss right at last call with 10 minutes to spare. Name another airport of similar size you can do that in. Don't recommend doing that FWIW but still, would never happen anywhere else. Not disagreeing that the airport itself if kind of a POS, but so few people actually connect through it relative to those going in and out.

If you want to piss 'clams off properly extend the streetcar down to the plaza TIA.

Any rebuilt airport in cities our size?  Try Indy, austin, Portland on for size.  There are a whole list of shitty things about KCI that we've all learned to deal with that would be improved with a new terminal.  Not for the connecting passenger, for us the local passenger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2016, 10:32:12 AM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.



If you want to piss 'clams off properly extend the streetcar down to the plaza TIA. 

the last thing i want to do is give panhandlers and other up to no gooders a free ride to my door step
and, with all the available free parking on the plaza, who needs a streetcar?  smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:33:21 AM
Airports are probably viewed differently by locals that have to use them to fly out vs. organizations that need to fly people in.

and people that connect through n which case mci is probably awful

Yeah, but are there actually itineraries that connect thru kc?

Southwest but they are moving more of their connections to St. Louis....which means less direct flight options here...but our airport is fine.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2016, 10:34:18 AM
oh man this is classic clams...full of all kinds of fun misinformation

like i said, there's nothing to address
and who cares about interest rates, it's not our money - remember?

The bill becomes higher to airlines, they are less likely to back the debt.  On top of that, nobody has ever said fees (landing, parking, etc) paid by travelers wouldn't be used as part of the funding....

Quote
and who cares about the sewer problem, we have a streetcar.

The sewer problem is already in year 5 of being fixed...someone so worried about the sewers, I figured you'd know that.

Quote
the taxes raised from the new businesses developed along the streetcar line should offset the cost of the airport and the sewer line, right?

airport can't be paid with taxes from new businesses, sewer replacement is funded by user fees so yes more development helps that funding.

Quote
  oh, what's that? we TIF'd the development along the streetcar line?

sewer fees aren't part of a TIF....taxes that are TIF'd can't be used for airports.

well the new hotel we are paying for will bring in new conventions to KC and those dollars will help offset the costs.  except our cost per conventioneer are higher than other cities b/c we signed a sweetheart deal with hyatt awarding them all the banquet business and we're not competitive vs other cities? 

this is just inaccurate.  The uptick in convention business since the Hyatt announcement that depends on the Hyatt being built is one data point....exclusive caterers at convention centers is not unique.

Quote
yikes, it's quite the conundrum we find ourselves in.  smdh.

Not really...but again, you would have been a great mayor in the 80s acting like we didn't have a problem to fix...great job Berkley'clams!
[/quote]


typical titola.  brainwashed by sly.  everything you posted is false.  and i'm much  more of a funkhowser clams than a Berkley clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 11, 2016, 10:34:54 AM
 :lol: lambert is the most disgusting pile of trash in the history of planet earth phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2016, 10:35:56 AM
Airports are probably viewed differently by locals that have to use them to fly out vs. organizations that need to fly people in.

and people that connect through n which case mci is probably awful

Yeah, but are there actually itineraries that connect thru kc?

on southwest, yes

Southwest'rs should expect to connect through an airport like KC's.  I suppose if a better airport would lead to more airlines connecting thru KC, that would increase flight options for locals.

I suspect the real impetus is from large KC companies and corporations that are embarrassed when they have to fly people into that airport (and then have them driven in from iowa or wherever the airport actually is).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:36:06 AM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.



If you want to piss 'clams off properly extend the streetcar down to the plaza TIA. 

the last thing i want to do is give panhandlers and other up to no gooders a free ride to my door step
and, with all the available free parking on the plaza, who needs a streetcar?  smdh

you pay .5% tax on everything you buy on the plaza for that "free" parking
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2016, 10:36:23 AM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.

canco.  Literally the only bad feature is the parking at term B but take a car service and problem solved

circle parking, son
use the a or c closest to your b gate.  boom, you're roasted.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:37:09 AM
:lol: lambert is the most disgusting pile of trash in the history of planet earth phil

I know...and SWA chooses to connect their passengers there instead...that's how bad KCI is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2016, 10:37:37 AM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.



If you want to piss 'clams off properly extend the streetcar down to the plaza TIA. 

the last thing i want to do is give panhandlers and other up to no gooders a free ride to my door step
and, with all the available free parking on the plaza, who needs a streetcar?  smdh

you pay .5% tax on everything you buy on the plaza for that "free" parking

yeah i know- we've talked at length about how bad our taxes are here.  great job TIF team!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 11, 2016, 10:38:20 AM
I saw some click bate thing listing KCI as one of the 10 worst airports. I guess not everyone can get new digs like stud #WichitaThings


If you live in KC and travel weekly, like me, it's the best airport in the world.  Easiest in and out in the country, IMO.

canco.  Literally the only bad feature is the parking at term B but take a car service and problem solved

circle parking, son
use the a or c closest to your b gate.  boom, you're roasted.

yep, i always park in circle C. when you get out of your car you can feel the exhaust from the 757 in gate 58 that you're about to board
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 11, 2016, 10:40:50 AM
yep, i always park in circle C. when you get out of your car you can feel the exhaust from the 757 in gate 58 that you're about to board

$/night?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 11, 2016, 10:42:31 AM
:lol: lambert is the most disgusting pile of trash in the history of planet earth phil

I know...and SWA chooses to connect their passengers there instead...that's how bad KCI is.

they're not taking anything away from kc phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 11, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
yep, i always park in circle C. when you get out of your car you can feel the exhaust from the 757 in gate 58 that you're about to board

$/night?

$16; i will say my work trips are usually super short (1 or 2 nights). if it was like all week or whatever i would use uber instead
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:43:32 AM
oh man this is classic clams...full of all kinds of fun misinformation

like i said, there's nothing to address
and who cares about interest rates, it's not our money - remember?

The bill becomes higher to airlines, they are less likely to back the debt.  On top of that, nobody has ever said fees (landing, parking, etc) paid by travelers wouldn't be used as part of the funding....

Quote
and who cares about the sewer problem, we have a streetcar.

The sewer problem is already in year 5 of being fixed...someone so worried about the sewers, I figured you'd know that.

Quote
the taxes raised from the new businesses developed along the streetcar line should offset the cost of the airport and the sewer line, right?

airport can't be paid with taxes from new businesses, sewer replacement is funded by user fees so yes more development helps that funding.

Quote
  oh, what's that? we TIF'd the development along the streetcar line?

sewer fees aren't part of a TIF....taxes that are TIF'd can't be used for airports.

well the new hotel we are paying for will bring in new conventions to KC and those dollars will help offset the costs.  except our cost per conventioneer are higher than other cities b/c we signed a sweetheart deal with hyatt awarding them all the banquet business and we're not competitive vs other cities? 

this is just inaccurate.  The uptick in convention business since the Hyatt announcement that depends on the Hyatt being built is one data point....exclusive caterers at convention centers is not unique.

Quote
yikes, it's quite the conundrum we find ourselves in.  smdh.

Not really...but again, you would have been a great mayor in the 80s acting like we didn't have a problem to fix...great job Berkley'clams!


typical titola.  brainwashed by sly.  everything you posted is false.  and i'm much  more of a funkhowser clams than a Berkley clams.
[/quote]

He didn't address the sewer problem either.  He did make street plates get a permit...go Funk!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:45:53 AM
:lol: lambert is the most disgusting pile of trash in the history of planet earth phil

I know...and SWA chooses to connect their passengers there instead...that's how bad KCI is.

they're not taking anything away from kc phil

Only going by what they said http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article85755692.html

Quote
Southwest said that’s why it’s adding flights in St. Louis, even though it’s much cheaper to fly out of Kansas City (about $7.50 per passenger vs. $15 per passenger in St. Louis).

“Southwest purposely does not connect passengers through MCI (KCI) like we do at St. Louis,” Southwest director of airport affairs Steve Sisneros told the City Council. “We purposely throttle down MCI because the connecting experience is so bad.”
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 11, 2016, 10:50:55 AM
Oh you meant losing potential flights, not actual existing ones. ok
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2016, 10:55:30 AM
Oh you meant losing potential flights, not actual existing ones. ok

I took throttle down to be a little of both...either way, costing us flight options.

not saying they aren't adding some flights...obv they are with austin and san Antonio just being added.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on November 11, 2016, 10:55:48 AM
Kc should build a new terminal to attract more SW connections.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2016, 07:18:10 PM
:lol: lambert is the most disgusting pile of trash in the history of planet earth phil

I know...and SWA chooses to connect their passengers there instead...that's how bad KCI is.

your point is especially salient considering SWA hubs at midway :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 15, 2016, 07:55:18 PM
:lol: lambert is the most disgusting pile of trash in the history of planet earth phil

I know...and SWA chooses to connect their passengers there instead...that's how bad KCI is.

your point is especially salient considering SWA hubs at midway :lol:

it's Southwest official's point, not mine.  They connect passengers throughout their network for example:


3212 Connecting Flight
3355
1 stop
Change Planes MCI
10h 10m
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2016, 08:39:20 PM
he's full of crap and trying to sell an airport to residents of kansas city.  his own company hubs out of the worst airport in america, but i wouldn't expect you to understand any of the politics in play, just get out your credit card.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 15, 2016, 08:51:26 PM
Thanks for explaining 'clams...insults and no facts.  Very presidential of you!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2016, 09:07:47 PM
are you implying that you would consider the possibility that he's saying that crap in an effort to sell the new terminal idea?  i never would have thunk it.  my apologies.  there's absolutely no hypocrisy within his stance and i certainly wouldn't expect you to see any.  that's all that i'm saying.

because he hubs at an absolute crap hole far beyond anything that could be compared to mci and he's routing traffic to stl (another worse crap hole than mci) because of customer experience issues at mci.  that's some strong logic that you're defending.  kudos.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 15, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
are you implying that you would consider the possibility that he's saying that crap in an effort to sell the new terminal idea?  i never would have thunk it.  my apologies.  there's absolutely no hypocrisy within his stance and i certainly wouldn't expect you to see any.  that's all that i'm saying.

because he hubs at an absolute crap hole far beyond anything that could be compared to mci and he's routing traffic to stl (another worse crap hole than mci) because of customer experience issues at mci.  that's some strong logic that you're defending.  kudos.

STL and Midway offer a superior connection experience than Pork & Pickle.  I do admire your hometown KCI pride.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2016, 10:01:27 PM
are you implying that you would consider the possibility that he's saying that crap in an effort to sell the new terminal idea?  i never would have thunk it.  my apologies.  there's absolutely no hypocrisy within his stance and i certainly wouldn't expect you to see any.  that's all that i'm saying.

because he hubs at an absolute crap hole far beyond anything that could be compared to mci and he's routing traffic to stl (another worse crap hole than mci) because of customer experience issues at mci.  that's some strong logic that you're defending.  kudos.

STL and Midway offer a superior connection experience than Pork & Pickle.  I do admire your hometown KCI pride.

:lol:

thanks for proving my point
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 30, 2016, 04:39:52 PM
https://twitter.com/KrisKetzKMBC/status/804090745435148291
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2016, 10:58:14 AM
People are getting shot in the face in Waldo

www.kmbc.com/article/waldo-shooting-leaves-1-seriously-hurt/8467504 (http://www.kmbc.com/article/waldo-shooting-leaves-1-seriously-hurt/8467504)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 11:41:26 AM
Ugh. Will not share with Mrs. Wacky. She got on this Waldo page where ppl post scary crap that's happening around the area all the time (Somehow shoe gate didn't make it) and she tells me about it all the time. Now she has nightmares that someones breaking in. This causes her to scream in her sleep, which is no bueno for this guy and his anxiety.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 07, 2016, 11:42:31 AM
ADT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on December 07, 2016, 11:42:47 AM
you have 9mo to move to OP fyi
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 07, 2016, 11:43:50 AM
People are getting shot in the face in Waldo

www.kmbc.com/article/waldo-shooting-leaves-1-seriously-hurt/8467504 (http://www.kmbc.com/article/waldo-shooting-leaves-1-seriously-hurt/8467504)

sounds like dealing drugs out of your house has negative consequences, who knew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2016, 11:46:09 AM
Ugh. Will not share with Mrs. Wacky. She got on this Waldo page where ppl post scary crap that's happening around the area all the time (Somehow shoe gate didn't make it) and she tells me about it all the time. Now she has nightmares that someones breaking in. This causes her to scream in her sleep, which is no bueno for this guy and his anxiety.

Dude, I joined that like 2 weeks ago and was  :sdeek: while reading it. Decided I didn't want to read it again. I thought it would just be community events and stuff but nope, apparently waldo is the center of the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 11:52:29 AM
Yeah lib and some ppl sound super racist on that page too.  :frown:

you have 9mo to move to OP fyi
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-15-2015/SBVnHu.gif)

ADT
There's something in our house, I think we just need to get it connected.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 07, 2016, 11:53:30 AM
Ugh. Will not share with Mrs. Wacky. She got on this Waldo page where ppl post scary crap that's happening around the area all the time (Somehow shoe gate didn't make it) and she tells me about it all the time. Now she has nightmares that someones breaking in. This causes her to scream in her sleep, which is no bueno for this guy and his anxiety.

Dude, I joined that like 2 weeks ago and was  :sdeek: while reading it. Decided I didn't want to read it again. I thought it would just be community events and stuff but nope, apparently waldo is the center of the apocalypse.

i've been saying it for years in hopes of saving some of you from the zombies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2016, 11:54:49 AM
Suspicious character alert! - - photo of 2 Jr high age black kids walking down the street
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on December 07, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
you have 9mo to move to OP fyi

Hey, it's not all sunshine and rainbows in OP.  People haven't been observing the noise ordinances after 10 PM.

I mean it's like a post-apocalyptic wasteland here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
you have 9mo to move to OP fyi

Hey, it's not all sunshine and rainbows in OP.  People haven't been observing the noise ordinances after 10 PM.

I mean it's like a post-apocalyptic wasteland here.

Have heard some douches are attaching satellite dishes to the front of the house AGAINST hoa regulations
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on December 07, 2016, 12:07:37 PM
Ugh. Will not share with Mrs. Wacky. She got on this Waldo page where ppl post scary crap that's happening around the area all the time (Somehow shoe gate didn't make it) and she tells me about it all the time. Now she has nightmares that someones breaking in. This causes her to scream in her sleep, which is no bueno for this guy and his anxiety.

Dude, I joined that like 2 weeks ago and was  :sdeek: while reading it. Decided I didn't want to read it again. I thought it would just be community events and stuff but nope, apparently waldo is the center of the apocalypse.

Post some of them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 07, 2016, 12:08:10 PM
what about people parking their RV's in their driveways like it's "Troost area"?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 12:09:48 PM
Lib, you live west of 75th street, so I wouldn't worry about it. It's living off McGee which is closer to the action that can be a bit of a scare.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 07, 2016, 12:56:13 PM
Lib, you live west of 75th street, so I wouldn't worry about it. It's living off McGee which is closer to the action that can be a bit of a scare.

Living west of 75th is pretty exclusive
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 07, 2016, 12:59:25 PM
the gift that keeps on giving
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2016, 01:02:20 PM
Well if I lived on a numbered street my address would have a "w" in front of it, so I get where you're coming from wackycat08, f the haters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 01:04:15 PM
We wanted to move to the Waldo area to still be close to everything and far enough away from family so they couldn't just drop by. On Facebook I saw a former coworker of mine list her house for rent and I jumped on it because our lease was ending soon downtown. I didn't realize 4 blocks east of 75th street made such a world of difference.  :angry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 01:05:36 PM
Well if I lived on a numbered street my address would have a "w" in front of it, so I get where you're coming from wackycat08, f the haters
I got you, son! Also, I obviously meant Wornall, guys.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 07, 2016, 01:05:44 PM
wacky i'm not understanding this "east of 75th" thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 07, 2016, 01:05:56 PM
oh nvm
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 07, 2016, 01:07:13 PM
doubling down (or is it doubling sideways?)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 01:08:32 PM
       w
       o
       r
   75(n)th st
       a
       l
       l

This is what I meant
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 01:09:04 PM
You really have a hard on today, chodecat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 07, 2016, 01:09:59 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 01:10:17 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 07, 2016, 01:10:47 PM
just say "I was wrong and can see how ridiculous that sounded" and move on
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 07, 2016, 01:11:10 PM
he still doesn't get it tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
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Hey dumbass, mocat, I get it. This is an amazing chart FWIW. Yes stone,, I was wrong. Brain fart.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 07, 2016, 01:14:49 PM
we've all grown just a bit right here.  Merry CHRISTmas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 07, 2016, 01:18:55 PM
I'm still confused how being in waldo is closer to everything.  Similar distance to plaza, further from westport, downtown, airport....what else is there?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 07, 2016, 01:22:03 PM
I'm still confused how being in waldo is closer to everything.  Similar distance to plaza, further from westport, downtown, airport....what else is there?

1 step at a time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2016, 01:24:14 PM
I'm still confused how being in waldo is closer to everything.  Similar distance to plaza, further from westport, downtown, airport....what else is there?

Work
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 07, 2016, 01:25:42 PM
I'm still confused how being in waldo is closer to everything.  Similar distance to plaza, further from westport, downtown, airport....what else is there?

Work

Ahhhhh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 01:25:52 PM
I'm still confused how being in waldo is closer to everything.  Similar distance to plaza, further from westport, downtown, airport....what else is there?
I meant by still being close to everything, without waking up to drunk asses from the quaff knocking on my windows in the middle of the night (on a Monday), hearing sirens 24/7, listening to pick up trucks towing ppl and that annoying reverse sound, Having someone break into our place (some chick), because they still have a key from like 5 years ago and they're so mumped up, they're adamant it's their place, so they wrestle Mrs. Wacky to the ground and I have to punt a bitch. I meant that. Now I just have to deal with random shootings, so life is good.

Yes and work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Panjandrum on December 07, 2016, 01:26:56 PM
you have 9mo to move to OP fyi

Hey, it's not all sunshine and rainbows in OP.  People haven't been observing the noise ordinances after 10 PM.

I mean it's like a post-apocalyptic wasteland here.

Have heard some douches are attaching satellite dishes to the front of the house AGAINST hoa regulations

The struggle is real.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2016, 03:32:40 PM
Wacky just needs to move to 143rd and metcalf.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2016, 03:40:37 PM
 :surprised: Former chiefs kicker Lawrence Tynes lives all the way down there. Except on the Missouri side. That's what is known as a little #FunFact!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 07, 2016, 10:34:58 PM
:surprised: Former chiefs kicker Lawrence Tynes lives all the way down there. Except on the Missouri side. That's what is known as a little #FunFact!
There is nowhere safe in KC Wacky, I grew up at 4 blocks east of 199th street (Kansas side) and someone slashed all of our cars' tires one winter
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on December 08, 2016, 12:27:49 PM
you have 9mo to move to OP fyi

Hey, it's not all sunshine and rainbows in OP.  People haven't been observing the noise ordinances after 10 PM.

I mean it's like a post-apocalyptic wasteland here.

Have heard some douches are attaching satellite dishes to the front of the house AGAINST hoa regulations

The struggle is real.

I'm getting a house near downtown OP, just on the OP side of Lamar, I might seriously go to a few town hall meeting since it won't be too far and just listen to :lol: complaints brought before city council.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 10, 2016, 01:39:08 AM
Tim Fitzgerald is at Harry's rn. He has gained weight bc he is fat af
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 10, 2016, 03:56:52 AM
I am at the foundation rn, wow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 10, 2016, 07:42:48 AM
MCI and Lambert both suck crap. MCI's functionality was completely obviated by TSA. The gate sitch is absurdly terrible and the security checkpoint an abnormal inconvenience. Close parking access (expensive) is a decent perk largely offset by the fact it was built on a 60 sq/mi goat pasture near Clinton MO. The long term parking situation is embarrassingly bad.

There are far more convenient airports.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 10, 2016, 08:14:51 AM
i finally got TSA Precheck (by way of Global Entry). don't know what took me so long.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 10, 2016, 08:31:28 AM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on December 11, 2016, 01:23:13 PM
i finally got TSA Precheck (by way of Global Entry). don't know what took me so long.

Both btw are the tits
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 13, 2016, 06:32:39 AM
MCI this morning:

Peggy po: 10 mins before boarding, not one single person in front of me in pre check line

Nancy neg: 737 was parked in termy C overnight because there was no room in B, so they are having to tow it over and it's going to make the flight late
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 09:02:59 AM
Love airport to this day has been the best experience I've ever received with checking in. Especially for being hungover on a Sunday. It took us like 5 minutes to get in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 13, 2016, 10:46:20 AM
Took me less time at Midway last week than it ever has to get through kci precheck...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on December 13, 2016, 10:56:11 AM
I've never waited more than 3 or 4 minutes at midway's security.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2016, 11:24:58 AM
Took me less time at Midway last week than it ever has to get through kci precheck...
you seem to have the worst luck when traveling, it must suck

the good news is that not everyone has such shitty luck.  i haven't waited more than 2 minutes to get past mci precheck since the program started #blessed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2016, 11:27:45 AM
The two times I've used precheck at mci the regular line was twice as fast. Both times out of towners behind me complained about how terrible this airport is  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2016, 11:33:44 AM
both times!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2016, 11:40:02 AM
The last time I was at mci tho I didn't get precheck added since I was with a work group and the regular line was 3x slower than precheck so I'm just bad luck brian. This old man held up the body scanner line for 10 minutes because he didn't understand what was going on and instead of just moving him to the side they decided to stop the whole rough ridin' line since there is only one scanner.

A1 boarding tho  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 13, 2016, 12:07:00 PM
The delta pre check line at mci is bitb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 13, 2016, 12:07:23 PM
No old clueless men to be found
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 13, 2016, 12:11:47 PM
The delta pre check line at mci is bitb

yes. uber to gate in <3 minutes on monday morning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 02:09:47 PM
I told you, CF3! Fortunately he took my shoes and didn't shoot me in the face.

https://twitter.com/GRicekcstar/status/808761397953855489
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 02:13:46 PM
Oh man, comment section.  :horrorsurprise:

Quote
Frank Rizzo
Given what the city and police have decided to allow along Prospect, everyone in Brookside and Waldo should seriously considering arming themselves for protection.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2016, 02:18:27 PM
Saw on the fb group that a house near me earlier last week had its door kicked in at noon and robbed the place and let the dogs out to roam the neighborhood  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 02:23:30 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 13, 2016, 02:29:54 PM
Took me less time at Midway last week than it ever has to get through kci precheck...
you seem to have the worst luck when traveling, it must suck

the good news is that not everyone has such shitty luck.  i haven't waited more than 2 minutes to get past mci precheck since the program started #blessed

I didn't say I've waited a long time at kci precheck. The townie mentality that only KCI security is fast is dumb dumb. In fact it can be worse as pointed out by two time lib.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on December 13, 2016, 02:33:44 PM
it's not that mci's security is necessarily faster, it's that time from dropoff to sitting down at your gate is faster.

midway is fast enough at getting you through security.  thing is it can be a 5-10 minute walk once you're through security.  that's not including the time it takes to get from the train to the security checkpoint, which is about another 5 minutes.

let me put it this way, if you're running late getting to the airport trying to catch a flight, you're in much better shape if the airport is MCI than if it's MDW.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2016, 02:39:15 PM
A new terminal may add 5 minutes to your walk after security. That would be to the furthest gate. They don't want to build some sprawling monstrosity
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 13, 2016, 02:44:57 PM
it's not that mci's security is necessarily faster, it's that time from dropoff to sitting down at your gate is faster.

midway is fast enough at getting you through security.  thing is it can be a 5-10 minute walk once you're through security.  that's not including the time it takes to get from the train to the security checkpoint, which is about another 5 minutes.

let me put it this way, if you're running late getting to the airport trying to catch a flight, you're in much better shape if the airport is MCI than if it's MDW.

Not necessarily. Also a new termy wouldn't add significant walking time....like lib said we aren't looking to build a sprawling mess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on December 13, 2016, 02:49:17 PM
not necessarily what?  on average, you get to your gate faster at MCI.  disputing that makes you sound crazy to me, as guy who's flown out of each airport probably 20 times over the last two years.

and i'm not commenting on what a new termy at MCI would or wouldn't do, just chiming in on the MDW comparison you brought up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2016, 04:48:30 PM
Took me less time at Midway last week than it ever has to get through kci precheck...
you seem to have the worst luck when traveling, it must suck

the good news is that not everyone has such shitty luck.  i haven't waited more than 2 minutes to get past mci precheck since the program started #blessed

I didn't say I've waited a long time at kci precheck. The townie mentality that only KCI security is fast is dumb dumb. In fact it can be worse as pointed out by two time lib.

you said you made it through precheck @ mdw quicker than you ever have at mci.  neither has long security lines, however, i've literally waited zero minutes and zero seconds to get to the xray machine at mci many times.   on average, the wait is less than 2-3 minutes (for me).  if you're waiting longer than that on average, i consider you unlucky.

regardless, only a true anti-kc person would compare mdw to mci
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 13, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
Took me less time at Midway last week than it ever has to get through kci precheck...
you seem to have the worst luck when traveling, it must suck

the good news is that not everyone has such shitty luck.  i haven't waited more than 2 minutes to get past mci precheck since the program started #blessed

I didn't say I've waited a long time at kci precheck. The townie mentality that only KCI security is fast is dumb dumb. In fact it can be worse as pointed out by two time lib.

you said you made it through precheck @ mdw quicker than you ever have at mci.  neither has long security lines, however, i've literally waited zero minutes and zero seconds to get to the xray machine at mci many times.   on average, the wait is less than 2-3 minutes (for me).  if you're waiting longer than that on average, i consider you unlucky.

regardless, only a true anti-kc person would compare mdw to mci

this was my only point.  the non-flying KCI lovers think KCI is the only airport that can do quick security....and they ignore the dozens of other inconveniences. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 13, 2016, 06:26:43 PM
not necessarily what?  on average, you get to your gate faster at MCI.  disputing that makes you sound crazy to me, as guy who's flown out of each airport probably 20 times over the last two years.

and i'm not commenting on what a new termy at MCI would or wouldn't do, just chiming in on the MDW comparison you brought up.

Yes on average you can get to your gate faster from being dropped off at the curb.  Funny thing is KCI is slowly but surely expanding that distance from dropoff to gate as they centralize checkpoints. 

Wasn't meaning to compare airport to airport, just pointing out that a fast security line isn't unique to KCI. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2016, 06:41:15 PM
sad to hear that kc is punishing their anti-new terminal population by allowing the airlines to centralize checkpoints

even still, i fly through the lines and never have to walk far to find my checkpoint.  but, very sad that they're crying their delicious tears all over the place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 13, 2016, 06:57:30 PM
The arguments for a new airport are weird to me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 13, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Imo the mci termy B experience varies greatly depending on airline
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 13, 2016, 08:06:17 PM
Imo the mci termy B experience varies greatly depending on airline

that's a pretty good argument for a new termy in itself... :ROFL: at KCI apologists, I haven't heard an argument about saving current KCI that makes any sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2016, 08:45:53 PM
i mean, it's obvious that the management in charge of mci is woefully incompetent,  although not surprising since this same level of incompetence is found in every corner of KCMO's government.  who in their right mind would hand these irresponsible clowns a check for a billion bones?  no one that i know of, that's for sure.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 13, 2016, 09:16:46 PM
i mean, it's obvious that the management in charge of mci is woefully incompetent,  although not surprising since this same level of incompetence is found in every corner of KCMO's government.  who in their right mind would hand these irresponsible clowns a check for a billion bones?  no one that i know of, that's for sure.

you were just singing KCI's praises but the mgmt is incompetent? Seems to me their are polishing the turd as much as possible based on the townies love of the current setup despite it being a 30 year old building with a design that doesn't fit modern air travel....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on December 13, 2016, 09:37:05 PM
Anyone who thinks MCI is a 'good experience' has zero perspective.

You can add it to the KSTATE-O thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2016, 10:09:22 PM
i mean, it's obvious that the management in charge of mci is woefully incompetent,  although not surprising since this same level of incompetence is found in every corner of KCMO's government.  who in their right mind would hand these irresponsible clowns a check for a billion bones?  no one that i know of, that's for sure.

you were just singing KCI's praises but the mgmt is incompetent? Seems to me their are polishing the turd as much as possible based on the townies love of the current setup despite it being a 30 year old building with a design that doesn't fit modern air travel....

make no mistake, the airport itself does do exceptionally well despite management's efforts to hijack it at their every opportunity

Anyone who thinks MCI is a 'good experience' has zero perspective.

You can add it to the KSTATE-O thread.

agreed.  it's much more of a 'great experience' but some folks will never be happy and relegate a 'great' thing to just 'good'.  sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 13, 2016, 10:25:02 PM
'clam rn
(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/7/005/079/314/00d4103.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 13, 2016, 10:27:29 PM
AIRPORT STUFF!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on December 13, 2016, 11:46:34 PM
I just want to add to mocat's best thing about mci being when they have to tow your plane from another terminal to when they tow your plane from another terminal and then change your gate so you have to leave security and go through security again to get to the other gate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2016, 11:59:58 PM
That's very mciy lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 04:10:50 PM
new orleans must have skipped the gold toilet seats with their $800 new terminal, what suckers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 14, 2016, 04:32:10 PM
today the jetbridge thing was not working so we just sat there on the plane for 30 mins while they tried to fix it so we could all get off.

POINT AWARDED TO HOUSE TITOLA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 14, 2016, 04:33:13 PM
however when i finally did get off the plane, i was sitting inside my car within 4 minutes

POINT AWARDED TO HOUSE CLAMS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 04:38:14 PM
tsa precheck 8:00 am this morning, term B swa

(http://i.imgur.com/k0tEvoA.jpg)

i was proud of the 900 year old in front of me rocking precheck, unfortunately she has a fake knee and had to go to the non-pre line  :blank:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 14, 2016, 04:40:01 PM
clams, why is kansas city missouri's airport located in iowa? that's the worst part of the whole deal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 14, 2016, 04:50:00 PM
The only problem with MCI is it looks like crap.  Like it looks like one of those fortified hangars you park warplanes in to protect them from bombs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 04:52:14 PM
it's not located in iowa, it's 15 minutes from downtown just like most airports in most cities

of course the site was selected in true KC style, thanks to backroom politics
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on December 14, 2016, 05:03:58 PM
today the jetbridge thing was not working so we just sat there on the plane for 30 mins while they tried to fix it so we could all get off.

POINT AWARDED TO HOUSE TITOLA
would a new terminal not use a jetway?  I think House Clams is +1 on the day now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 14, 2016, 05:10:18 PM
House titola would say it was built in 1972 so of course it's going to break down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 14, 2016, 05:20:24 PM
How old is Arrowhead and Kauffman?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on December 14, 2016, 05:38:39 PM
House titola would say it was built in 1972 so of course it's going to break down
hmm, I think they are more like the tugs and baggage trucks than part of the building, I mean they are moveable? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 06:53:57 PM
as fliers at mci we can expect that our jetways should be fully operational.  they also should be covered under maintenance contracts managed by the pack of einsteins who also manage the airport which is paid for out of the airport's current operating budget.

if the contracts lapsed or are not being enforced, blame the folks tasked with keeping them current and enforcing their clauses

it's obvious these folks are literally and figuratively flying blind
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 14, 2016, 07:02:35 PM
I wish we could ban airport talk and streetcar talk in this thread. :zzz: People in Waldo are getting their yeezys stolen and getting shot in the face during the process. :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2016, 07:46:52 PM
it's not located in iowa, it's 15 minutes from downtown just like most airports in most cities

of course the site was selected in true KC style, thanks to backroom politics
i have no problem with the location of the airport FYI...although it would be super cool if one airline would fly out of MKC, Love Field style.

'clam, old people get precheck like automatically, it's one of the things paying precheck people get all  :curse: about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 14, 2016, 07:48:19 PM
as fliers at mci we can expect that our jetways should be fully operational.  they also should be covered under maintenance contracts managed by the pack of einsteins who also manage the airport which is paid for out of the airport's current operating budget.

if the contracts lapsed or are not being enforced, blame the folks tasked with keeping them current and enforcing their clauses

it's obvious these folks are literally and figuratively flying blind

outrageous maintenance costs for the current setup is one of the best arguments for a new terminal, i like the way you think 'clams  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2016, 07:48:48 PM
House titola would say it was built in 1972 so of course it's going to break down

I'm sure those concrete bunker hulls of the airport will last forever....the guts are what need redone and in a design that fits modern security.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2016, 07:50:16 PM
To steer this off airport topic, thanks KCFD for getting giftcards, it makes my buying for employees much easier....and that cinnamon coffee pirate beer is  :drink:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2016, 08:06:34 PM
however when i finally did get off the plane, i was sitting inside my car within 4 minutes

POINT AWARDED TO HOUSE CLAMS

New termy could be the same way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on December 14, 2016, 08:07:19 PM
To steer this off airport topic, thanks KCFD for getting giftcards, it makes my buying for employees much easier....and that cinnamon coffee pirate beer is  :drink:

Lol for a quick sec I was thinking, the FD has gift cards? For what? Than I was like "oh he's talking about me"

Glad you like it! I suggest a bottle or two of the breakfast stout. Is very tasty.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on December 14, 2016, 08:29:16 PM
Kc is my city u guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 14, 2016, 08:57:26 PM
If KC builds a new terminal they should build it near KC instead of Saskatchewan. There's nothing convenient about a 55 minute drive through scenic wyco flood plains, across Missouri cobblestone highways and over a crumbling bridge off I29 on the iowa border to catch a flight at an airport whose utility was obviated around the time braniff and twa were in a pricewar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 09:00:18 PM
also if they build a new world, they should move the pacific ocean and the rocky mountains near where i decide to build a new house.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 14, 2016, 09:13:02 PM
It's always nice to be able to couple my meetings at the national dairy farmers of america building before i snag a direct flight to one of the 5 midregional destinations offered out of the 40th parallel continental airport.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 14, 2016, 09:15:45 PM
remember when TWA wanted to make MCI like, their main hub? i don't either but i read it on wikipedia once.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 14, 2016, 09:19:30 PM
Twa is mci's main hub
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 09:22:54 PM
remember when TWA wanted to make MCI like, their main hub? i don't either but i read it on wikipedia once.

they were headquartered in kc and designed the current airport configuration that most of us love and cherish to this very day

twa factoid:  the condos on 46th, b/w holly and jarboe in the west plaza, used to be where the twa flight attendants all lived
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 14, 2016, 09:25:59 PM
Kc is my city u guys
shut up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 09:27:04 PM
If KC builds a new terminal they should build it near KC instead of Saskatchewan. There's nothing convenient about a 55 minute drive through scenic wyco flood plains, across Missouri cobblestone highways and over a crumbling bridge off I29 on the iowa border to catch a flight at an airport whose utility was obviated around the time braniff and twa were in a pricewar.
probably the only drawback to living amongst the McMansions in The Hills at Rolling Brook Farms near 175th and Metcalf, huh?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 14, 2016, 09:36:22 PM
HT, you should focus all of your pitch on what negative consequences happen to KC due to non-KC'rs (businesses and humans) take on the airport.  I don't know if there are any, but there's def not going to be enough KC'rs that have a real beef w/their airport to spark a local movement to change it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2016, 10:14:07 PM
HT, you should focus all of your pitch on what negative consequences happen to KC due to non-KC'rs (businesses and humans) take on the airport.  I don't know if there are any, but there's def not going to be enough KC'rs that have a real beef w/their airport to spark a local movement to change it.

That's been laid out (less flights, business community is all on board with new termy, etc)....some people just don't seem to care/listen?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2016, 10:14:41 PM
If KC builds a new terminal they should build it near KC instead of Saskatchewan. There's nothing convenient about a 55 minute drive through scenic wyco flood plains, across Missouri cobblestone highways and over a crumbling bridge off I29 on the iowa border to catch a flight at an airport whose utility was obviated around the time braniff and twa were in a pricewar.

that would be like $3B....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 14, 2016, 10:40:01 PM
HT, you should focus all of your pitch on what negative consequences happen to KC due to non-KC'rs (businesses and humans) take on the airport.  I don't know if there are any, but there's def not going to be enough KC'rs that have a real beef w/their airport to spark a local movement to change it.

That's been laid out (less flights, business community is all on board with new termy, etc)....some people just don't seem to care/listen?

Give specifics on the negative consequences.  How will they make K'C'rs' lives worse?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2016, 10:56:58 PM
HT, you should focus all of your pitch on what negative consequences happen to KC due to non-KC'rs (businesses and humans) take on the airport.  I don't know if there are any, but there's def not going to be enough KC'rs that have a real beef w/their airport to spark a local movement to change it.

That's been laid out (less flights, business community is all on board with new termy, etc)....some people just don't seem to care/listen?

Give specifics on the negative consequences.  How will they make K'C'rs' lives worse?

Agreed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 11:12:19 PM
fewer flights except more flights, less business traveler/conventions except more business traveler/conventions, etc

sorry trim but everything you're suggesting has already been done, sly & co tried to lie their way into a $1B dollar "need" and it didn't work

had those dumbasses packaged and presented a realistic ask in front of their voters instead of a billion dollar boondoggle, their request would have been approved by now but they swung for the fences and whiffed.  it's done.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 14, 2016, 11:43:28 PM
HT, you should focus all of your pitch on what negative consequences happen to KC due to non-KC'rs (businesses and humans) take on the airport.  I don't know if there are any, but there's def not going to be enough KC'rs that have a real beef w/their airport to spark a local movement to change it.

That's been laid out (less flights, business community is all on board with new termy, etc)....some people just don't seem to care/listen?

Give specifics on the negative consequences.  How will they make K'C'rs' lives worse?

Agreed.

Show me the data.

Anecdotally, if I can't find an adequate flight directly to MHK for FattyFest '17, I'd probably fly to Wichita now on direct Alaska instead of going to KC, but I wouldn't have spent hardly any money in KC anyway and if I stayed at a hotel that Friday it'd be w/a free night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on December 15, 2016, 08:20:50 AM
HT, you should focus all of your pitch on what negative consequences happen to KC due to non-KC'rs (businesses and humans) take on the airport.  I don't know if there are any, but there's def not going to be enough KC'rs that have a real beef w/their airport to spark a local movement to change it.

That's been laid out (less flights, business community is all on board with new termy, etc)....some people just don't seem to care/listen?

Give specifics on the negative consequences.  How will they make K'C'rs' lives worse?

Agreed.

Show me the data.

Anecdotally, if I can't find an adequate flight directly to MHK for FattyFest '17, I'd probably fly to Wichita now on direct Alaska instead of going to KC, but I wouldn't have spent hardly any money in KC anyway and if I stayed at a hotel that Friday it'd be w/a free night.
Will you be staying in the new casa de Gooch in NW Arkansas that Friday?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on December 15, 2016, 08:48:45 AM
You know who has a nice little airport? Atlanta.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 15, 2016, 09:21:00 AM
You know who has a nice little airport? Atlanta.

it is nice, i don't know how they do it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 09:24:58 AM
HT, you should focus all of your pitch on what negative consequences happen to KC due to non-KC'rs (businesses and humans) take on the airport.  I don't know if there are any, but there's def not going to be enough KC'rs that have a real beef w/their airport to spark a local movement to change it.

That's been laid out (less flights, business community is all on board with new termy, etc)....some people just don't seem to care/listen?

Give specifics on the negative consequences.  How will they make K'C'rs' lives worse?

Agreed.

Show me the data.

Anecdotally, if I can't find an adequate flight directly to MHK for FattyFest '17, I'd probably fly to Wichita now on direct Alaska instead of going to KC, but I wouldn't have spent hardly any money in KC anyway and if I stayed at a hotel that Friday it'd be w/a free night.

I don't possess access to that data. I agree it's the angle KCI officials should be giving voters. Most I have are direct quotes from airline officials saying they don't land at KCI and prefer to go to st Louis to connect passengers even though it costs them more to do so.  To which clams will now try and misdirect with some hair brained MDW comment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 09:26:20 AM
fewer flights except more flights, less business traveler/conventions except more business traveler/conventions, etc

sorry trim but everything you're suggesting has already been done, sly & co tried to lie their way into a $1B dollar "need" and it didn't work

had those dumbasses packaged and presented a realistic ask in front of their voters instead of a billion dollar boondoggle, their request would have been approved by now but they swung for the fences and whiffed.  it's done.

So just to wrap up your opinion, kci is fine and needs nothing done to it?

More conventions has zero to do with the airport....it's in spite of the airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 15, 2016, 10:11:02 AM
Will you be staying in the new casa de Gooch in NW Arkansas that Friday?

Fly to SW Iowa and have to deal w/that place to get to regular KC and on to MHK, or fly to Wichita but detour to NW Arkansas rather than proceeding on to MHK?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 15, 2016, 10:12:53 AM
I have an open futon in kc fyi
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 15, 2016, 10:20:19 AM
I don't possess access to that data. I agree it's the angle KCI officials should be giving voters. Most I have are direct quotes from airline officials saying they don't land at KCI and prefer to go to st Louis to connect passengers even though it costs them more to do so.  To which clams will now try and misdirect with some hair brained MDW comment.

You shouldn't fight their battle so vehemently unless and until they help you out.

The arguments I'd be using (if true) are:

1) W/o a new airport, ______, Inc. is going to leave here and cost KC ____ jobs (or w/a new airport, ______, Inc. is going to come here and create _____ jobs).

2) W/o a new airport, KC will lose out on a [convention, sports team, etc.] that will preclude KC from having $_____ injected into the economy and ______ jobs created.

3) W/o a new airport, ______ Airlines is going to leave (or reduce flights) which will reduce travel options to ______ resulting in (______ of increased travel time and/or ___________ in higher average fares).

There's probably some other direct $ factors that could be argued for the KC scenario.  I'd also consider, if it exists, putting in a point about how the airport, as the first and last thing visitors see, affects impressions of KC and any effect that might have on return visits or even "tourism."  And if there's data that would show there's enough people like me who avoid flying to KC when there's any other option, enough to make any sort of $ difference, add that too.

I'm with you that the KC airport is lol embarrassing, but for locals who've become accustomed to it and use it as nothing more than a necessary thing to walk through between their car and the plane, that aspect doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 15, 2016, 10:22:55 AM
Will you be staying in the new casa de Gooch in NW Arkansas that Friday?

Fly to SW Iowa and have to deal w/that place to get to regular KC and on to MHK, or fly to Wichita but detour to NW Arkansas rather than proceeding on to MHK?

there's a bed at my place that waks hasn't slept on in over 6 months.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 15, 2016, 10:26:06 AM
T-Y, all.  Determining where I pass out in brownbackistan isn't a big part of making a travel plan from cool kids.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 15, 2016, 10:28:26 AM
Are you bringing the dog?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 15, 2016, 10:34:04 AM
Are you bringing the dog?

I'd like to.  I looked into the logistics a bit for upcoming flights and it seems like a huge pain in the ass, especially on non-direct.  If I was to fly direct to KC or Wichita for FattyFest, and had her cool w/getting into a crate for even 10 seconds by then, I'd try to make it work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 10:39:42 AM
I don't possess access to that data. I agree it's the angle KCI officials should be giving voters. Most I have are direct quotes from airline officials saying they don't land at KCI and prefer to go to st Louis to connect passengers even though it costs them more to do so.  To which clams will now try and misdirect with some hair brained MDW comment.

You shouldn't fight their battle so vehemently unless and until they help you out.

The arguments I'd be using (if true) are:

1) W/o a new airport, ______, Inc. is going to leave here and cost KC ____ jobs (or w/a new airport, ______, Inc. is going to come here and create _____ jobs).

2) W/o a new airport, KC will lose out on a [convention, sports team, etc.] that will preclude KC from having $_____ injected into the economy and ______ jobs created.

3) W/o a new airport, ______ Airlines is going to leave (or reduce flights) which will reduce travel options to ______ resulting in (______ of increased travel time and/or ___________ in higher average fares).

There's probably some other direct $ factors that could be argued for the KC scenario.  I'd also consider, if it exists, putting in a point about how the airport, as the first and last thing visitors see, affects impressions of KC and any effect that might have on return visits or even "tourism."  And if there's data that would show there's enough people like me who avoid flying to KC when there's any other option, enough to make any sort of $ difference, add that too.

I'm with you that the KC airport is lol embarrassing, but for locals who've become accustomed to it and use it as nothing more than a necessary thing to walk through between their car and the plane, that aspect doesn't matter.

I'd say #3 is the only one that has been alluded to...I don't think #1 or 2 apply but if they did, that business should definitely come forward and speak up.  The concept of KCI bring the first impression of the city has been brought up by many city leaders and I'm aware of at least one conference that did not come to KC and that was one of their stated reason.

I agree that a lot of KC residents have become accustomed to the current KCI and know how to deal with the nuances of it. I used to be firmly in that camp. I switched sides when i started hearing Southwest talking about them not using kci as much, the business community being behind a new termy, and lastly how much it was going to cost for "fix" the necessary infrastructure vs just building new....at that point it was a no brainer to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 15, 2016, 10:51:24 AM
let's go to kc!

no way the airport sucks!

said no one ever.


let's leave kc and go somewhere!

no way the airport sucks!

said no one ever.



the good news for the good people of kansas city is that the people behind the new airport initiative bungled their jobs up so badly that the initiative has now been tabled indefinitely

but i'm sure someone appreciates all of your input, trim
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 15, 2016, 10:58:40 AM
I switched sides when i started hearing Southwest talking about them not using kci as much, the business community being behind a new termy, and lastly how much it was going to cost for "fix" the necessary infrastructure vs just building new....at that point it was a no brainer to me.

That's weird to me that you would be switched by hearing SW talking about something or hearing that the business community was behind it.  I'd want, and proponents should know that it would instead require actual data and $ figures and their effect on locals w/respect to either.  If vague hypotheticals are their talking points, they're mumped, and should be.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
Bob Marcusse was quoted saying he knows of examples where KCI was a factor in KC losing out on business opportunities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2016, 11:00:05 AM
I have an open futon in kc fyi
Yeah. I have a a guest bedroom too, Trim. We should all meet up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 11:00:39 AM
I switched sides when i started hearing Southwest talking about them not using kci as much, the business community being behind a new termy, and lastly how much it was going to cost for "fix" the necessary infrastructure vs just building new....at that point it was a no brainer to me.

That's weird to me that you would be switched by hearing SW talking about something or hearing that the business community was behind it.  I'd want, and proponents should know that it would instead require actual data and $ figures and their effect on locals w/respect to either.  If vague hypotheticals are their talking points, they're mumped, and should be.

Southwest quotes werent vague hypotheticals neither were the quoted prices for renovation vs new.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 15, 2016, 11:03:35 AM
So it should be relatively easy to crunch the numbers just from the certain data and demonstrate why a new terminal is financially beneficial to KC and its residents, in an amount that at least offsets any perceived inconvenience, right?

Every page of this thread re: the airport should be able to be reduced to a 2-column ledger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 11:39:25 AM
2 column ledger won't sway kc voter who thinks new kci will be LHR
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 15, 2016, 11:42:26 AM
Your team's campaign people either suck or they don't have the facts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 11:46:13 AM
Your team's campaign people either suck or they don't have the facts.

I'd say they suck at presenting the facts they have.id also say people that look at the fact that it costs more to renovate vs new are  :Rusty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 15, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
Your team's campaign people either suck or they don't have the facts.

I'd say they suck at presenting the facts they have.id also say people that look at the fact that it costs more to renovate vs new are  :Rusty:

That's a shame that this whole project will be derailed b/c those hired to do so can't present their data in a digestible format.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 15, 2016, 03:00:09 PM
there is no project to derail fwiw
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 03:01:51 PM
Your team's campaign people either suck or they don't have the facts.

I'd say they suck at presenting the facts they have.id also say people that look at the fact that it costs more to renovate vs new are  :Rusty:

That's a shame that this whole project will be derailed b/c those hired to do so can't present their data in a digestible format.

It is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 15, 2016, 03:36:51 PM
Nothing sells quite like fear these days.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on December 15, 2016, 03:39:46 PM
The airport people should hire the death trap street cars people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2016, 03:41:40 PM
The airport people should hire the death trap street cars people.
These two subjects alone have made this thread unreadable.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 15, 2016, 04:03:05 PM
The airport people should hire the death trap street cars people.
These two subjects alone have made this thread unreadable.  :frown:

Wacky, we all mourn for your shoes...are you happy?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 15, 2016, 04:06:06 PM
He still has a face, praise Allah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2016, 04:06:20 PM
It was barely discussed  :shakesfist: and then this guy went around shooting ppl in the face for yeezys, Phil. What a world, you guys!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2016, 04:06:38 PM
He still has a face, praise Allah
:cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2016, 04:30:34 PM
They desexied the Hyatt project

(https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10280599/kccchground-level-rendering-42016-12-18final*750xx3009-4001-848-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 19, 2016, 04:37:53 PM
some architect has fallen in love with loading up KC with 80's looking corporate woods style glass buildings

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 19, 2016, 04:39:31 PM
why is it so short  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2016, 04:41:48 PM
Made it thicker. Same number of rooms just short and fat to save money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 04:43:21 PM
Chodehyatt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2016, 04:43:50 PM
chodecat should fall in love with this thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2016, 04:44:04 PM
Chodehyatt

lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on December 19, 2016, 04:45:02 PM
Lmao, that looks terrible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2016, 05:04:01 PM
Inspiration
(http://www.abandonwaredos.com/public/aban_img_screens/simcity-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 19, 2016, 05:56:35 PM
you guys really got sold a false bag of goods (not surprised).  hoodwinked.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 05:59:48 PM
Scrap that pos and do the new termy with the $$ :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2016, 06:11:22 PM
you guys really got sold a false bag of goods (not surprised).  hoodwinked.

still 800 room convention hotel...just an ugly one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on December 19, 2016, 06:24:18 PM
Phil the shill
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2016, 07:14:28 PM
I hate the building so not sure I'm being a good shill
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2016, 07:48:08 PM
:lol: good grief you kccats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 19, 2016, 09:00:51 PM
That is so fing gross guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on December 19, 2016, 11:12:23 PM
Chodehyatt

I lol'ed in real life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 22, 2016, 11:26:27 PM
Another horrible mci experience. That place needs to be burned to the ground
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2016, 06:52:08 AM
I've probably done the MCI -> DEN vice versa 50 times in my life and I can never recall an experience where I would call it horrible.  I'm not sure how it could be horrible with 100' max from security to gate for any flight there.

I'm sure your experience will be horrible every single time now lib since you're gonna be on the TSA watch list for making that comment.  Have fun with a cavity search every time now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2016, 07:32:10 AM
100 feet to the gate went away a long time ago....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2016, 07:39:53 AM
Define 'a long time ago'
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 23, 2016, 07:42:44 AM
Denver airport is horrible because it's located in colby ks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2016, 07:49:21 AM
Denver airport is horrible because it's located in colby ks

:sdeek:

mocat I think we need to tell you something...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2016, 09:54:44 AM
Define 'a long time ago'

Depends on the gate but when they started consolidating security....Some are 500+ feet away from the curb going through security....100 feet from road to gate isn't a great thing anyways as anybody trying to find a seat in those cramped security holds will tell you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2016, 09:57:44 AM
Define 'a long time ago'

Depends on the gate but when they started consolidating security....Some are 500+ feet away from the curb going through security....100 feet from road to gate isn't a great thing anyways as anybody trying to find a seat in those cramped security holds will tell you.

I think you're taking this a little to literal.  I was talking about from going through the metal detectors to your gate.  Compare that with any other airport anywhere that does international. 

I agree the spaces are tiny but there is very little that can happen in such a small area to make it horrible. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 23, 2016, 10:00:04 AM
i remember being a little feller and getting to go to the airport when my dad was travelling or whatever. you got to go all the way up to the windows and watch the planes. mci was really amazing before GOT DAMN 9 11
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 23, 2016, 10:10:59 AM
Denver airport is horrible because it's located in colby ks
it's a weird thing to be 30 miles from denver and have a descending jet fly over you in the opposite direction of downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 23, 2016, 10:11:39 AM
Denver airport is horrible because it's located in colby ks

:sdeek:

mocat I think we need to tell you something...

what's that m8?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2016, 10:13:10 AM
Denver airport is horrible because it's located in colby ks

:sdeek:

mocat I think we need to tell you something...

what's that m8?

The airport in Denver is not actually in Colby, KS.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 23, 2016, 10:13:57 AM
When I was a kid, the limited amount of stuff in there was still relatively interesting and I liked how the hallways were curved because there was always the possibility that something especially interesting would be just ahead and out of sight.  Exceptional experiences included meeting macho man randy savage and the "Cheers" bar that I think had chuck e cheese-style animatronic norm and cliff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 23, 2016, 10:19:52 AM
Denver airport is horrible because it's located in colby ks

:sdeek:

mocat I think we need to tell you something...

what's that m8?

The airport in Denver is not actually in Colby, KS.

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/skeptical.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2016, 10:24:24 AM
Define 'a long time ago'

Depends on the gate but when they started consolidating security....Some are 500+ feet away from the curb going through security....100 feet from road to gate isn't a great thing anyways as anybody trying to find a seat in those cramped security holds will tell you.

I think you're taking this a little to literal.  I was talking about from going through the metal detectors to your gate.  Compare that with any other airport anywhere that does international. 

I agree the spaces are tiny but there is very little that can happen in such a small area to make it horrible.

It is definitely a shorter walk than most airports. My argument is that doesn't make for a convenient airport when you factor in the entire airport experience.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2016, 10:27:15 AM
Define 'a long time ago'

Depends on the gate but when they started consolidating security....Some are 500+ feet away from the curb going through security....100 feet from road to gate isn't a great thing anyways as anybody trying to find a seat in those cramped security holds will tell you.

I think you're taking this a little to literal.  I was talking about from going through the metal detectors to your gate.  Compare that with any other airport anywhere that does international. 

I agree the spaces are tiny but there is very little that can happen in such a small area to make it horrible.

It is definitely a shorter walk than most airports. My argument is that doesn't make for a convenient airport when you factor in the entire airport experience.

Are you making an argument for the 2% of people that use MCI as a hub?  What's the purpose of an airport?  To get them from one place to another. 

We don't need giant spaces with tons of stuff in KC.  There's a reason the hub airports have so much extra crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 23, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
Downsize it to something more like super-convenient MHK.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2016, 10:35:55 AM
Define 'a long time ago'

Depends on the gate but when they started consolidating security....Some are 500+ feet away from the curb going through security....100 feet from road to gate isn't a great thing anyways as anybody trying to find a seat in those cramped security holds will tell you.

I think you're taking this a little to literal.  I was talking about from going through the metal detectors to your gate.  Compare that with any other airport anywhere that does international. 

I agree the spaces are tiny but there is very little that can happen in such a small area to make it horrible.

It is definitely a shorter walk than most airports. My argument is that doesn't make for a convenient airport when you factor in the entire airport experience.

Are you making an argument for the 2% of people that use MCI as a hub?  What's the purpose of an airport?  To get them from one place to another. 

We don't need giant spaces with tons of stuff in KC.  There's a reason the hub airports have so much extra crap.

No I'm not...I'm talking inconvenient for us ...Btw 5% connect here...Used to be 18% which meant more directs for us KC people but ehhh, who needs that kind of convenience right, look how close the plane is to where I got dropped off!

Nobody is talking giant hub spaces in the new terminal btw....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2016, 10:40:01 AM
Define 'a long time ago'

Depends on the gate but when they started consolidating security....Some are 500+ feet away from the curb going through security....100 feet from road to gate isn't a great thing anyways as anybody trying to find a seat in those cramped security holds will tell you.

I think you're taking this a little to literal.  I was talking about from going through the metal detectors to your gate.  Compare that with any other airport anywhere that does international. 

I agree the spaces are tiny but there is very little that can happen in such a small area to make it horrible.

It is definitely a shorter walk than most airports. My argument is that doesn't make for a convenient airport when you factor in the entire airport experience.

Are you making an argument for the 2% of people that use MCI as a hub?  What's the purpose of an airport?  To get them from one place to another. 

We don't need giant spaces with tons of stuff in KC.  There's a reason the hub airports have so much extra crap.

No I'm not...I'm talking inconvenient for us ...Btw 5% connect here...Used to be 18% which meant more directs for us KC people but ehhh, who needs that kind of convenience right, look how close the plane is to where I got dropped off!

Nobody is talking giant hub spaces in the new terminal btw....

:lol:

I'm sure those 5% are really bitching about our inconvenient airport.  I would assume they dropped more of those connecting flights because of the traffic.  What incentive do the airlines have if the planes are half full?   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2016, 10:41:39 AM
Not doing airport talk today...Cheers TBT. Happy Christmas holidays .
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 23, 2016, 10:44:48 AM
the "Cheers" bar that I think had chuck e cheese-style animatronic norm and cliff.

I had to check if that memory was correct.  It was norm and cliff adjace, and real norm and cliff shut it down.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-11-16/features/9204130961_1_robots-bar-television-series-cheers

http://variety.com/1993/tv/news/no-cheers-for-animated-norm-cliff-at-host-bars-103162/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2016, 10:50:36 AM
Not doing airport talk today...Cheers TBT. Happy Christmas holidays .

:cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
Not doing airport talk today...Cheers TBT. Happy Christmas holidays .
TY! This thread is aids because of airport talk.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 23, 2016, 11:00:06 AM
you guys, i have to fly southwest next week  :Ugh:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2016, 11:00:21 AM
Most of airport talk is just to #fanningbrag about how much you travel, how important you are for your job, how many airports you've seen, etc. Yank yank.  :jerk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 23, 2016, 11:01:19 AM
100% chance i will be in between two enormous mouth breathing trumpers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2016, 11:13:44 AM
Guys did you read the city auditor report on the city bike master plan? ???Scathing! Well deserved as public works has been blowing off the bike (and pedestrian) community too damn long.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 23, 2016, 12:18:26 PM
Mocat has never been a class on sw what a loser lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 23, 2016, 12:22:12 PM
Gonna start calling him mocct cause ain't no a's with that guy rofl
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 23, 2016, 04:38:49 PM
You fly southwest like a hundred times until you get status and then you can totally take your pick of the seats, it's awesome, gmafb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2016, 05:08:56 PM
SWA status is the shittiest of the status
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on December 23, 2016, 08:29:50 PM
SWA status is the shittiest of the status
Unless you get the companion pass. Then it's pretty great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 26, 2016, 10:10:40 PM
people from across the globe can't stop talking about how great our airport is
http://www.kctv5.com/clip/12989629/kansas-citians-return-home-from-visiting-family-during-holidays
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 28, 2016, 04:20:55 AM
Things Greg has done in Kansas City.
Westin Crown Center
Kansas City Royals game on hyvee cheap seat night vs pirates
World War 1 museum.
Union Station
An expensive fondue place.
The dog pound (hot dog joint)
Driven through downtown in rush hour
Schliterbahn when they first opened (had like 3 slides)
Worlds Of Fun
Great Wolf Lodge (was a little kid have cool memories)
Legends


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 28, 2016, 07:20:00 AM
Well Greg if you haven't ridden the streetcar or used the airport you probably don't have anything to contribute to this thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on December 28, 2016, 08:18:28 AM
good grief Greg, what haven't you done?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 28, 2016, 02:56:38 PM


NOVA traffic is a nightmare out of hell

:sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on December 28, 2016, 03:42:21 PM
hate to break it to you greg but the dog pound is now a Vietnamese place
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 28, 2016, 03:43:51 PM
i always think about trying out that coney dog place but then come to my senses
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 28, 2016, 05:33:18 PM


NOVA traffic is a nightmare out of hell

:sdeek:

right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on December 28, 2016, 06:03:48 PM
dang that sucks dog pound was tight
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on January 04, 2017, 12:56:33 PM
!!!!!

https://twitter.com/kcstreetcar/status/816685032848969728
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on January 05, 2017, 09:15:35 AM
That was a good idea by KC. People now have a fighting chance not to get run over by that death machine.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on January 06, 2017, 12:45:44 PM
 :love:
https://twitter.com/TaslerPhoto/status/817187067566424064
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 06, 2017, 04:51:00 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article124940224.html El Patron is garbage anyways. Hopefully it closes now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 06, 2017, 05:14:58 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article124940224.html El Patron is garbage anyways. Hopefully it closes now.

they have v good mole WC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 06, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article124940224.html El Patron is garbage anyways. Hopefully it closes now.

they have v good mole WC

wc loves Margarita's though so i'd defer to his opinion on the matter
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 08:25:26 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article124940224.html El Patron is garbage anyways. Hopefully it closes now.

they have v good mole WC

 :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on January 06, 2017, 09:37:43 PM
That man is very wide.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2017, 10:16:53 PM
Wide people is very #kansascity
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 07, 2017, 11:43:52 AM
Related

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/heman/images/b/bc/Ram-man83.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090720003743)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2017, 12:25:59 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article124940224.html El Patron is garbage anyways. Hopefully it closes now.

they have v good mole WC

wc loves Margarita's though so i'd defer to his opinion on the matter

Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on January 07, 2017, 12:56:08 PM
el patron have shitty chz?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 07, 2017, 01:03:31 PM
El patron has a rooftop patio and that's about it.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2017, 01:08:31 PM
 
El patron has a rooftop patio and that's about it.  :frown:

Their mole is pretty yum
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 07, 2017, 01:23:59 PM
I'll give it a shot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2017, 07:51:49 PM
Watch out who buys you a drink wack
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on January 10, 2017, 02:08:55 PM
Business is picking up!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article125603634.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2017, 02:10:50 PM
Quote from: Phil Titola
but just imagine how many flights Allegiant would be adding if we had a new airport

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 10, 2017, 02:34:01 PM
Watch out who buys you a drink wack
:D :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 16, 2017, 06:19:58 AM
MCI is a rough ridin' joke and any of you that think it is fine as is should kill yourself.  I'm in a line right now that is going to take at least 45+ minutes in TSA precheck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 06:29:50 AM
MCI is a rough ridin' joke and any of you that think it is fine as is should kill yourself.  I'm in a line right now that is going to take at least 45+ minutes in TSA precheck


I got through the A list line earlier in about 10 minutes, after parking about 75 yards away in the garage. So.....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 06:33:24 AM
Plus, I also make sure to get to security 1 hour before boarding.  I have never had a security line over an hour, anywhere.

If you do this, you will not have stress.

You young bucks, smh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 16, 2017, 06:41:35 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/3048b98b62568a5816b94d28d024ffa0.jpg)

They should burn this rough ridin' place to the ground
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 06:43:49 AM
What time is your flight?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 16, 2017, 06:45:52 AM
Not in Kansas City...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/08f2b23b659ead1207ecb3b607429f38.jpg) the 4%
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 16, 2017, 06:46:50 AM
What time is your flight?
7:15... One of the gates is closed, I'll rebook for the noon one most likely... Didn't want to work today anyway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 06:49:24 AM
Ya, 32/33 being closed is a pain.  They held my flight for 15 minutes waiting for stragglers from security lines.  So, you might get lucky.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 06:50:18 AM
They are de-icing too, so they will hold a bit longer as they wait for trucks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 16, 2017, 06:59:07 AM
When MCI is running smoothly, it's great, but no airport has this big a problem when it isn't
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 07:14:01 AM
They did build a new Starbucks between gate 33 and 34!  Progress!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 16, 2017, 07:25:47 AM
Boarded! 80 minutes from being dropped at the door to on the plane! 77 of those in line for something that takes 6 minutes in major cities and small towns
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 07:57:48 AM
the only reason you're bitching is because you're used to mci being the most capable airport in the entire country.  when there's a hiccup like today the delicious tears begin to flow. 

newsflash:  all airports experience congestion at times.  i've been in airport lines so long they extended to the airport parking lot.  deal with it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 09:12:00 AM
Kci is the only airport that can't handle demand fluxulations at checkpoints. Not sure why this is such a foreign concept for kci lovers to zunderstand.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on January 16, 2017, 09:17:44 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/3048b98b62568a5816b94d28d024ffa0.jpg)

They should burn this rough ridin' place to the ground

That tequila place on your right should've been handing off shots like spectators give water to marathon runners.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 09:19:55 AM
That place is only open within security now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 16, 2017, 09:26:00 AM
Just another mci is trash testimonial
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 16, 2017, 09:29:13 AM
had the same experience a week ago, though not as drastic. hurt my heart a little to see the delta tsa pre check security struggling so much, the line was significantly longer than the "normal" security line.

once i did get through, had to lol at how cramped everyone was in the gate area. whatever, i can just stand there, but it really is bad. it's a shitty little airport with a weird layout but it's OUR shitty little airport with a weird layout.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 10:06:32 AM
had the same experience a week ago, though not as drastic. hurt my heart a little to see the delta tsa pre check security struggling so much, the line was significantly longer than the "normal" security line.

once i did get through, had to lol at how cramped everyone was in the gate area. whatever, i can just stand there, but it really is bad. it's a shitty little airport with a weird layout but it's OUR shitty little airport with a weird layout.

sounds like the company we outsource our security to is very poorly managed by the city, not surprised.  we should expect more from our vendors but we let them walk over us like a wet blanket.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on January 16, 2017, 10:14:52 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 10:16:16 AM
had the same experience a week ago, though not as drastic. hurt my heart a little to see the delta tsa pre check security struggling so much, the line was significantly longer than the "normal" security line.

once i did get through, had to lol at how cramped everyone was in the gate area. whatever, i can just stand there, but it really is bad. it's a shitty little airport with a weird layout but it's OUR shitty little airport with a weird layout.

sounds like the company we outsource our security to is very poorly managed by the city, not surprised.  we should expect more from our vendors but we let them walk over us like a wet blanket.

Except the city doesn't manage the contract/selection/relationship/performance: https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/screening-partnerships
Quote
Can the airport authority advise the screening contract company on security screening service operations at their airport?
The contract screening company is contracted by TSA to provide the security screening services. TSA monitors vendor performance according to their contract. The vendor must comply with all TSA standard operating procedures and operational directives. The airport authority has no new role or impact on the screening operations as a result of the program.

Can the airport authority be part of the formal source selection process for the program?
The Office of Management and Budget has provided federal agencies specific guidance on the issue of what is considered “inherently governmental” work when it comes to the government procurement process. They cannot participate as a voting member in the source selection process.

Basically it sounds like typical shitty TSA service but just not "government employees"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 10:37:08 AM
sad to see the city's manager be bullied by the tsa and the airlines responsible for providing security screening, not surprised though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 10:38:24 AM
sad to see the city's manager be bullied by the tsa and the airlines responsible for providing security screening, not surprised though

Agreed.  Shameful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 10:40:29 AM
airlines to kc:  build us a new airport!
kc: yes sir whatever you want sir, can we please have more security?
airlines to kc: no, now build us a new airport
sly james to airlines: oh yes sir yes sir, please sir let me get that done for you immediately

sad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 10:43:30 AM
airlines to KC:  There ain't no room for more security you dolts.

KC to airlines:  I like mah 100 feet to the planes! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 11:04:59 AM
airlines to KC:  There ain't no room for more security you dolts.

KC to airlines:  I like mah 100 feet to the planes! 

reality:  there is more room than needed unless you ignore a 3/4 emtpy c and shuttered terminal a
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on January 16, 2017, 11:07:02 AM
This is so great :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 11:33:30 AM
airlines to KC:  There ain't no room for more security you dolts.

KC to airlines:  I like mah 100 feet to the planes! 

reality:  there is more room than needed unless you ignore a 3/4 emtpy c and shuttered terminal a

So renovate, make A the pre security and security checkpoint area, rail to the boarding gates in B & C?   That was studied...costed more and gets rid of the only perceived convenience of KCI.

Every part of C is used currently FYI.  KC's second busiest airline is in there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 11:34:00 AM
This is so great :D

It's how MLK would have wanted it I think.  He hated KCI I've heard.  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 16, 2017, 11:35:46 AM
He had a dream of a single terminal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 16, 2017, 11:43:47 AM
Every part of C is used currently FYI.  KC's second busiest airline is in there.

(http://i.imgur.com/wwbJFJE.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 12:40:07 PM

So renovate, make A the pre security and security checkpoint area, rail to the boarding gates in B & C?   That was studied...costed more and gets rid of the only perceived convenience of KCI.

you're the only person in the city that believes that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 01:01:28 PM

So renovate, make A the pre security and security checkpoint area, rail to the boarding gates in B & C?   That was studied...costed more and gets rid of the only perceived convenience of KCI.

you're the only person in the city that believes that

I love the era of we're all experts in everything and if it doesn't fit my agenda then it has to be wrong.  Great way to get things done!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 16, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
Bike shed theory.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 02:49:36 PM

So renovate, make A the pre security and security checkpoint area, rail to the boarding gates in B & C?   That was studied...costed more and gets rid of the only perceived convenience of KCI.

you're the only person in the city that believes that

I love the era of we're all experts in everything and if it doesn't fit my agenda then it has to be wrong.  Great way to get things done!

yup.  the "cost estimates" that you're referring to were generated by sly's people to fit sly's single terminal agenda.
no serious cost studies can be done without a more formal construction plan, which in the case of mci, does not exist
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 04:14:19 PM

So renovate, make A the pre security and security checkpoint area, rail to the boarding gates in B & C?   That was studied...costed more and gets rid of the only perceived convenience of KCI.

you're the only person in the city that believes that

I love the era of we're all experts in everything and if it doesn't fit my agenda then it has to be wrong.  Great way to get things done!

yup.  the "cost estimates" that you're referring to were generated by sly's people to fit sly's single terminal agenda.
no serious cost studies can be done without a more formal construction plan, which in the case of mci, does not exist

"Let's spend $4MM to get a 'formal construction plan' so we can get better costs for a project that doesn't fix the problem"  - Clam'nomics
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 16, 2017, 04:18:59 PM
we need a martyrmade podcast to break down the roots of the pissclamsi-titolan war. i think it would be a mistake to dismissively say "oh they've always been fighting each other"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2017, 04:26:35 PM
This season of serial will focus on the future of MCI
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
I mean the airport committee below went through 27 concepts (9 of those renovation concepts) and is on year 3 of this....but yes, let's spend more time and money to find a solution that makes renovating 40+ year old buildings that were designed at a time before security even existed to get on an airport that works "meh, okay"

Airport Committee members:
Bob Berkebile (co-chair), David Fowler (co-chair), Jesse Barnes, Zulema Bassham, Forrestine Beasley, David Byers, Chuck Caisley, Dan Cranshaw, Prentiss Earl, III, John Fierro, Kevin Koster, John McDonald, Mike McKeen, Paula Meidel, Nikki Newton, Mark Pederson, Joe Reardon, Nia Richardson, Bill Skaggs, Alicia Stephens, Reggie Thomas, Qiana Thomason, Sheila Tracy and Donna Wilson Peters

Not only Sly yes men.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
who appointed them?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 05:35:23 PM
we need a martyrmade podcast to break down the roots of the pissclamsi-titolan war. i think it would be a mistake to dismissively say "oh they've always been fighting each other"

1920...ole pappie Clams didn't think we needed to build MKC....Richards Field was "good enough"...bad location picked by ole man Titola though....hemmed in by the river...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 05:36:35 PM
who appointed them?

Sly...and he put some of the biggest critics of the "new terminal movement" (NTM) on that committee.  You must have not answered his call
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 05:42:33 PM
thought so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 05:45:11 PM
thought so

:Flamethrower:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 16, 2017, 05:45:23 PM
we need a martyrmade podcast to break down the roots of the pissclamsi-titolan war. i think it would be a mistake to dismissively say "oh they've always been fighting each other"

It can be recorded at KCFDcat's Double Shift with an open forum to follow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 06:36:23 PM
I just want to continue to be able to easily park in the garage, and quickly walk to/from the gate for about the same cost as today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 06:36:46 PM
Which plan does that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2017, 06:37:53 PM
I do not give a eff about restaurants as long as there is a decent coffee place past security where I can grab a cup while I wait on Monday mornings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 16, 2017, 06:47:04 PM
a place to get quick breakfast or lunch would be nice too.  i can't remember the last time i spent any money at all inside MCI, that is definitely the opposite at literally every other airport i've ever been to.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 08:16:27 PM
who wants to eat at an airport? disgusting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 08:29:55 PM
Which plan does that?

New terminal....with more spaces to do just what you want.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 08:40:18 PM
Which plan does that?

New terminal....with more spaces to do just what you want.
sorry but there is no more new terminal plan, time to get over it.  move on and just enjoy your toy choo choo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 16, 2017, 08:45:26 PM
Which plan does that?

New terminal....with more spaces to do just what you want.
sorry but there is no more new terminal plan, time to get over it.  move on and just enjoy your toy choo choo.

I will when I can ride down on it and visit you on the plaza.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 09:18:53 PM
never going to happen, the abject failure of the starter line cemented the end of the streetcar experiment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 16, 2017, 09:21:45 PM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 16, 2017, 10:15:22 PM
Mci is a bus station trapped in an airport's body, deal with it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 24, 2017, 08:23:01 PM
PHIL, FREE crap!!!  :Woot:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article128491799.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 24, 2017, 08:31:09 PM
Now that the feds are going to buy us a new airport we can put all our energy into extending the streetcar  :dance:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on January 24, 2017, 09:11:59 PM
PHIL, FREE crap!!!  :Woot:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article128491799.html

Hopefully that doesn't happen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 24, 2017, 11:27:05 PM
PHIL, FREE crap!!!  :Woot:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article128491799.html

Maybe he isn't so bad???? Nah.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 25, 2017, 09:27:06 AM
I don't get the hate for MCI.    Try LAS on for size, what a shithole.   Had a 6 minute tram ride to the other terminal just so I could use a lounge.    They have 3 buildings, but they are widely seperated and very inconvenient.    The main terminal still has multiple security checkpoints, so that doesn't gain much over MCI.     They should just drop 1 gate area in each terminal to create a single security entrance at each terminal if it's that big of an issue.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 25, 2017, 09:39:57 AM
Apples to oranges. We aren't going to build LAS as we don't have that volume....It has become annoyung with their spread out terminals throughout their expansions.

How long did it take you to use the lounges at KCI?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 25, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
I don't get the hate for MCI.    Try LAS on for size, what a shithole.   Had a 6 minute tram ride to the other terminal just so I could use a lounge.    They have 3 buildings, but they are widely seperated and very inconvenient.    The main terminal still has multiple security checkpoints, so that doesn't gain much over MCI.     They should just drop 1 gate area in each terminal to create a single security entrance at each terminal if it's that big of an issue.

the pro-new MCI people like to pretend that all domestic airports are not inconvenient crap holes filled with gross unhappy people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 25, 2017, 09:41:46 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 25, 2017, 09:50:02 AM
I don't get the hate for MCI.    Try LAS on for size, what a shithole.   Had a 6 minute tram ride to the other terminal just so I could use a lounge.    They have 3 buildings, but they are widely seperated and very inconvenient.    The main terminal still has multiple security checkpoints, so that doesn't gain much over MCI.     They should just drop 1 gate area in each terminal to create a single security entrance at each terminal if it's that big of an issue.

the pro-new MCI people like to pretend that all domestic airports are not inconvenient crap holes filled with gross unhappy people

LAS is the definition of being filled with gross unhappy people.im a fan of the KU garb traveling gross unhappy people myself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2017, 09:55:30 AM
Gross trams and spread out terminals are what #renovation people like 'clams want. #newterm people want a nice and efficient airport in a central location
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 25, 2017, 10:45:49 AM
"There are a lot of shitty airports" is a weird reason for not wanting to improve a shitty airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 25, 2017, 11:32:52 AM
what shitty airport renovation has been discussed in this thread?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 25, 2017, 11:52:55 AM
"There are a lot of shitty airports" is a weird reason for not wanting to improve a shitty airport.

If you've been paying attention you'd know that's not the reason.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on January 25, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
I wish Phil would move to a city that he actually likes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 25, 2017, 01:04:23 PM
I wish Phil would move to a city that he actually likes

Obsessed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 25, 2017, 02:13:58 PM
Well Greg if you haven't ridden the streetcar or used the airport you probably don't have anything to contribute to this thread
I have been to the airport three times

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
Streetcar business impact survey

* 41 business responded out of 80+ surveys sent
* 80% of business seeing positive revenue impact (40% seeing over 16% revenue growth)
* 83% reporting increased foot traffic
* 40% have added staff, 17% expanded hours
* 97% of businesses report impact
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2017, 10:42:06 AM
i checked facebook from the downtown Chipotle yesterday.  streetcar drove by.  facebook stock up 1.25% today. GREAT JOB STREETCAR!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 11:16:37 AM
i checked facebook from the downtown Chipotle yesterday.  streetcar drove by.  facebook stock up 1.25% today. GREAT JOB STREETCAR!

Let's do lunch sometime!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 26, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
Sounds like the business owners love the streetcar. Get that crap to waldo and the stadiums quick
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 11:39:20 AM
Sounds like the business owners love the streetcar. Get that crap to waldo and the stadiums quick
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Taco Bell and Denny's need an uptick!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 26, 2017, 11:45:04 AM
We can probably trick trump into paying for the airport line
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2017, 11:45:58 AM
it'd be hard for these businesses who aren't paying taxes to not see positive growth but GO STREETCAR!!


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on January 26, 2017, 11:50:06 AM
Streetcar business impact survey

* 41 business responded out of 80+ surveys sent
* 80% of business seeing positive revenue impact (40% seeing over 16% revenue growth)
* 83% reporting increased foot traffic
* 40% have added staff, 17% expanded hours
* 97% of businesses report impact

This may come as a surprise to you, but this is not the purpose of public transportation
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 26, 2017, 11:54:24 AM
LAS's new terminal is very nice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 12:03:46 PM
it'd be hard for these businesses who aren't paying taxes to not see positive growth but GO STREETCAR!!

Sales taxes are higher along the streetcar clams. Member that was going to be a huge deterrent for businesses
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on January 26, 2017, 12:35:46 PM
Everyone - I was born and raised in KC. If you guys have ANY questions about KC there is a good chance I'm your man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2017, 12:43:46 PM
it'd be hard for these businesses who aren't paying taxes to not see positive growth but GO STREETCAR!!

Sales taxes are higher along the streetcar clams. Member that was going to be a huge deterrent for businesses

TIF
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 01:11:25 PM
it'd be hard for these businesses who aren't paying taxes to not see positive growth but GO STREETCAR!!

Sales taxes are higher along the streetcar clams. Member that was going to be a huge deterrent for businesses

TIF

TIF doesn't impact revenue increasing from more customers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2017, 01:28:26 PM
it'd be hard for these businesses who aren't paying taxes to not see positive growth but GO STREETCAR!!

Sales taxes are higher along the streetcar clams. Member that was going to be a huge deterrent for businesses

TIF

TIF doesn't impact revenue increasing from more customers.

ordinarily i'd ask if you need me slow things down for you but i realize you're truly incapable of understanding how a business who was afforded TIF financing and not paying tax revenue would benefit over one who wasn't or how any of that correlates to the businesses who responded to this survey and that are located along the streetcar line

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 01:41:03 PM
Business along streetcar line don't equate to businesses who benefited from TIF but accuracy hasn't been your strong suit in these discussions so you keep on keeping on the misinformation train.

Hey kcfdcat...Come tell us about your TIF windfalls. Rieger...Come on down....Michaels clothier....Affare....Minsky's....Step right up, tell us how great TIF has been for you.

Guess no lunch as you mushed me on that request.  :Crybaby:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2017, 01:47:43 PM
every business surveyed that has reported growth should attribute it to the streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 26, 2017, 02:10:09 PM
The Phil-Pissclams blood feud ITT is very reminiscent of the lib^7 - dax pit'r feud. Right down to Phil/lib inviting pissclams/dax to have a meal/hug and pissclams/dax ignoring it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 26, 2017, 02:23:52 PM
Everyone - I was born and raised in KC. If you guys have ANY questions about KC there is a good chance I'm your man.

Applejack, first off how are you today?

Second. How weird is it that like 1/3 of the west bottoms is in Kansas? Like i get that they set the state line a long time ago where the rivers met but sheesh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 02:53:47 PM
every business surveyed that has reported growth should attribute it to the streetcar

Definitely not a foolproof correlation but 80% of businesses seeing revenue increases is encouraging.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 02:54:57 PM
The Phil-Pissclams blood feud ITT is very reminiscent of the lib^7 - dax pit'r feud. Right down to Phil/lib inviting pissclams/dax to have a meal/hug and pissclams/dax ignoring it.

Yeah that was weird....I always took it as good ole fun but maybe I made him actual mad IRL?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 26, 2017, 02:57:39 PM
In case anyone was curious, I own a business in the streetcar TDD. We pay a higher sales tax. We used to have tax inclusive sales, but switched to the more typically american way of tax exclusive. Not necessarily because of the TDD, just having that extra $3,500/mo is a big help.

We also pay higher property tax than other parts of the city. We do lease our building, but tax increases are passed on to us.

I have never gotten a tax break from the city, county, state, or fed. I'm happy to pay the taxes I owe, especially since some goes to something I support, the streetcar.

I love the crossroads, I do think the streetcar increases traffic for our neighborhood, and I support the expansion of it.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 26, 2017, 02:58:37 PM
So you don't need my $30 then that I owe you? :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 26, 2017, 03:18:44 PM
The Phil-Pissclams blood feud ITT is very reminiscent of the lib^7 - dax pit'r feud. Right down to Phil/lib inviting pissclams/dax to have a meal/hug and pissclams/dax ignoring it.

When did this happen?   1100 miles away from each other :dontknow  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 26, 2017, 03:20:44 PM
Multiple times dax, it's ok I get it  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2017, 03:22:38 PM
every business surveyed that has reported growth should attribute it to the streetcar

Definitely not a foolproof correlation but 80% of businesses seeing revenue increases is encouraging.

*80% of businesses who replied to the survey
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 26, 2017, 03:23:05 PM
Multiple times dax, it's ok I get it  :blindfold:

I'll let you know next time I'm in KC, friend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on January 26, 2017, 03:25:11 PM
I really don't mind paying an extra $0.15 per beer at KCFD's if it's going to go to a streetcar that can DD me back to my loft when I'm at binge level 8 :shrugs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 26, 2017, 03:26:38 PM
Yeah, that sounds great Abe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 26, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
It's impossible to get to a binge level of 8 drinking beer. IMPOSSIBLE!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 26, 2017, 03:35:34 PM
It's impossible to get to a binge level of 8 drinking beer. IMPOSSIBLE!

Dont eat beforehand.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 26, 2017, 03:37:44 PM
LAS's new terminal is very nice

I assume that's E?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
I really don't mind paying an extra $0.15 per beer at KCFD's if it's going to go to a streetcar that can DD me back to my loft when I'm at binge level 8 :shrugs:

i wouldn't mind it if KCMO handed me a hundred million dollar designated driver either.  you 350 people got a great deal for your vote.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 04:02:16 PM
every business surveyed that has reported growth should attribute it to the streetcar

Definitely not a foolproof correlation but 80% of businesses seeing revenue increases is encouraging.

*80% of businesses who replied to the survey

Right. I'd also say if I own a business and I got a survey from the streetcar and my sales are flat or declining after all the construction crap and hype experienced...Better believe I'm filling out that survey.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
I really don't mind paying an extra $0.15 per beer at KCFD's if it's going to go to a streetcar that can DD me back to my loft when I'm at binge level 8 :shrugs:

i wouldn't mind it if KCMO handed me a hundred million dollar designated driver either.  you 350 people got a great deal for your vote.

5,800 per day you mean  :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 26, 2017, 04:07:21 PM
every business surveyed that has reported growth should attribute it to the streetcar

Definitely not a foolproof correlation but 80% of businesses seeing revenue increases is encouraging.

*80% of businesses who replied to the survey

Right. I'd also say if I own a business and I got a survey from the streetcar and my sales are flat or declining after all the construction crap and hype experienced...Better believe I'm filling out that survey.

I did not fill out the survey, I meant to, I just forgot to mail it back in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on January 26, 2017, 04:09:20 PM
Multiple times dax, it's ok I get it  :blindfold:

I'll let you know next time I'm in KC, friend.

No he won't
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on January 26, 2017, 09:28:28 PM
Suck it MCI poors

(http://i68.tinypic.com/343gldx.jpg)

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 26, 2017, 09:33:11 PM
Woof! Fix that crap city 1st. The NFL doesn't even want them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 26, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
What's the murder rate there now?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 26, 2017, 09:36:40 PM
LAS's new terminal is very nice

I assume that's E?
The one American and United use
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 26, 2017, 09:49:05 PM
I've never heard anyone call out slc on on their murder rate, interesting tactic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on January 26, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
but what about all the trash on the ground? :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 10:08:33 PM
$3B for SLC renovation with $1.8B of that in bonds!!! no public vote....no reason KCI should require public vote
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on January 26, 2017, 10:10:22 PM
You could always just move there since you like it so much :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 10:11:26 PM
You could always just move there since you like it so much :dunno:

SLC is super weird and gross.  Sure can bond up an airport right though....those Mormons got that right.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on January 26, 2017, 10:12:07 PM
your face is super weird and gross
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
your face is super weird and gross

 :comehere:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 06:53:48 AM
Lost the kci lottery this morning....AA dual gate holding area (87/88). Kiosk with chips and OJ....The 10 minutes in security line with no precheck line was cool though.

Edit...Ahhh these poor ladies behind me "do you want a coffee, I'm going to go look if they have it"....Sorry ladies, they don't. Only oJ and chips. Who wants coffee at 6am?

Edit...Oh no one of them left their phone in the car...Parked in economy....Can they make it there in back before the plane leaves....With our convenient airport no doubt right? She has 40 minutes. Stay tuned!

Edit...She made it. Kudos to that satellite driver for waiting on her out in the parking lot....Great KC love despite a bad airport sitch.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2017, 07:32:43 AM
$3B for SLC renovation with $1.8B of that in bonds!!! no public vote....no reason KCI should require public vote

no reason it should require a public vote except a) the public doesn't want it, and b) it's the law

but who cares about those minor details if it doesn't fit your agenda
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 27, 2017, 07:34:11 AM
The public should have absolutely no say in how their money is spent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 07:39:37 AM
Those commies in Utah right? I mean we should vote on everything....Why don't I get to vote on every road resurface?

I honestly don't mind voting for the bonds for any kci changes....But look how easy those SLC guys have it...They can do whatever and voters get no say.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 07:41:02 AM
The public should have absolutely no say in how their money is spent.

I kind of thought that's what elections did. Dunno
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2017, 07:47:08 AM
sly games the system, sets the TDD up and 350 voters approve the streetcar, Phil Titola: "VOTING IS GREAT!!"

sly can't game the system and the voters say no thanks to a billion dollar airport boondoggle, Phil Titola: "VOTING SUCKS!!"



seriously can't make this crap up, folks  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 07:48:31 AM
TDD is the law clams....Minor details
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2017, 07:55:20 AM
TDD is the law clams....Minor details

it is the law but it's a workaround.  the city continually voted the public transportation ideas down, except for clay chastain's- which the city subsequently and correctly threw in the trash.  so to skirt the city's voters, he decided to create the tdd.

russ johnson's "i know 50 people, I'll get a tdd vote" quote at city hall says it all

minor details
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
phil and sly, "i wish we could create a tdd for the airport"   :curse:  :curse:  :curse:

damn you laws!  i hate you laws!    :bang:

enjoy
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 27, 2017, 08:33:37 AM
Can't wait for trump international Airport  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 27, 2017, 08:39:19 AM
The public should have absolutely no say in how their money is spent.

I kind of thought that's what elections did. Dunno

Do you honestly believe a vote for a candidate is your endorsement of them to spend money how they see fit?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 27, 2017, 08:44:00 AM
That is kind of what a representative form of government is Emo....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 09:56:55 AM
phil and sly, "i wish we could create a tdd for the airport"   :curse:  :curse:  :curse:

damn you laws!  i hate you laws!    :bang:

enjoy
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/2008/02/1_123125_2174661_2180640_2183605_080219_gl_oj.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)

Already said I don't mind a vote for the issuance of airport bonds....I am interested why KCMO requires that vote and other cities don't...Is it a state law I wonder? I know the LaGuardia terminal didn't require a public vote. Neither did the SLC one noted earlier.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2017, 10:32:16 AM
I'd guess those cities have proven to have more responsible leadership and less corruption than ours.

Why do you think cities have to vote on new stadium funding? 

Is Phil's government one that says, "Hey I voted you into office and now you have free reign to go do and spend what you want?" or are you only concerned when you're agenda is hampered by the current functioning way of doing things?  A little bit too much power in the hands of the idiot people that the city government represents?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 10:36:15 AM
Just interested in the differences. Officials can make a lot o financial decisions without my input at the voting booth...Many I don't like.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 10:43:24 AM
Just interested in the differences. Officials can make a lot o financial decisions without my input at the voting booth...Many I don't like.

To answer my own question it looks like revenue bonds issued by quasi government entities like a transit authority or Port authority don't require public vote as it's not public debt. The bonds kci was going after were general bonds I believe which is still considered public debt. Wonder if they will look to change that up...It might take a public vote to move the airport under some quasi government authority.

Speaking of bonds...Are we voting for the 800M GO bond issue this April? I'm on the fence....Obviously we have bridges and roads that needs help but I was hoping for more sidewalk money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2017, 11:05:39 AM
Just interested in the differences. Officials can make a lot o financial decisions without my input at the voting booth...Many I don't like.

To answer my own question it looks like revenue bonds issued by quasi government entities like a transit authority or Port authority don't require public vote as it's not public debt. The bonds kci was going after were general bonds I believe which is still considered public debt. Wonder if they will look to change that up...It might take a public vote to move the airport under some quasi government authority.

Speaking of bonds...Are we voting for the 800M GO bond issue this April? I'm on the fence....Obviously we have bridges and roads that needs help but I was hoping for more sidewalk money.

i'm not voting for it.  city hall told me that the earnings tax was going to cover that stuff.

the earnings tax needs to go away and the method by which we collect and spend our tax revenue needs to fall in line with the rest of the functioning world.  the current structure allows for too much fiscal mismanagement, finger pointing, and isn't transparent enough.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 11:32:44 AM
Property tax or sales tax would go up....Which do you want?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 27, 2017, 12:08:54 PM
i want to try brewery emperial, but gd it, did they not consult anybody on how to spell their fing name? it looks so gross
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 12:14:10 PM
i want to try brewery emperial, but gd it, did they not consult anybody on how to spell their fing name? it looks so gross

I've enjoyed it but not eaten there yet. Excited for their beer garden.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 27, 2017, 12:18:32 PM
i want to try brewery emperial, but gd it, did they not consult anybody on how to spell their fing name? it looks so gross

I've enjoyed it but not eaten there yet. Excited for their beer garden.

Food is really good.

I like the "misspelling" their space turned out really nice too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 27, 2017, 12:23:33 PM
is it supposed to remind people of Emporia, KS?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 27, 2017, 12:25:35 PM
I don't know the misspelling but just by mocats posts it sounds terrible and trying to hard to be clever hur hur beer, pour, hur hur
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 27, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
I don't know the misspelling but just by mocats posts it sounds terrible and trying to hard to be clever hur hur beer, pour, hur hur

they misspelled imperial as "emperial" to make people think of emporia, ks is the only theory we've got going so far. i'm going to go ask their kroger brand kcfdcat what his angle was on that deal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 12:31:10 PM
Imperial somehow still copyrighted but they wanted to harken back to KC brewery past?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2017, 12:48:22 PM
Property tax or sales tax would go up....Which do you want?

you're right, taxes are going to go up.  both property and sales.  as they should because they're artificially low right now.  the city gave away the tax revenue that it should be collecting and is in debt past its eyeballs and has subsidized its needs with the e-tax. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2017, 01:07:08 PM
Property tax or sales tax would go up....Which do you want?

you're right, taxes are going to go up.  both property and sales.  as they should because they're artificially low right now.  the city gave away the tax revenue that it should be collecting and is in debt past its eyeballs and has subsidized its needs with the e-tax.

Point me to where the city is in debt past its eyeballs....It's bond issuance rating is aa2 right now which would indicate they have plenty of capacity for more debt....do you mean the backlog of infrastructure needs that jerks like funkhouser didnt have the cajones to address?

I don't have a lot of problems with the etax as it gets those who use our infrastructure every day to partially pay for it but given the negative connotation the etax brings, I'd be fine with finding other options.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 27, 2017, 04:09:21 PM
That is kind of what a representative form of government is Emo....

Are we not allowed to disagree with someone for whom we have cast a vote?  Seems very all or nothing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 27, 2017, 04:21:53 PM
I'm literally befuddled by what the quarrel is here. We elect people to take care of this crap for us, if you are unhappy with what they do vote for someone else and hope they win  :dunno:

Or do you think just things you don't agree with your representative about should be put to public vote?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on January 27, 2017, 09:56:16 PM
No matter who they vote for if their representative goes against anything they want they will bitch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 28, 2017, 10:30:00 AM
Imperial somehow still copyrighted but they wanted to harken back to KC brewery past?
As far as I know this is the case
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 30, 2017, 09:42:34 AM
i want to try brewery emperial, but gd it, did they not consult anybody on how to spell their fing name? it looks so gross

Quote
brewery Emperial - We get asked about our name sometimes... There are several layers to what we decided to call ourselves.

In the history of Kansas City, there were several breweries of note. The shell of a former great one worth remembering still sits along I-35 about 3 miles from where our location is... The Imperial Brewery building stands as a reminder of the days when bigger meant better. From the late 19th century until prohibition, Imperial Brewery had a foothold in Kansas City: brewery Emperial is a nod to the noble Kansas City brewing tradition. 

In addition to that homage, bE is named in the more European tradition of "brewery" first - this represents our intention to keep beers our main focus, we will serve Great bEer, that's what we want to do, first & foremost. 

Emperial: A combination of two words-

                                 Empirical: as in     -   that's a fact, Jack!   
                                 Imperial:   -    meaning majestic; of a demanding quality; worthy of royalty(Go Royals!); domineering soooooo......   

                                 Emperial  [em-peer-ee-uhl]  adj.     it's a fact, our food and beer is high quality, worthy of royalty and a domineering way of making you want more.

 
             
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on January 30, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
bE

SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET SUED HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 31, 2017, 05:27:07 PM
bE

SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET SUED HAHAHAHA

Subpoena tap talk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on January 31, 2017, 05:54:08 PM
SMF!!! :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 06, 2017, 11:10:02 AM
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3409546-Emergency-NatSec50Projects-121416-1-Reduced.html

Page 28  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 06, 2017, 11:32:55 AM
:gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2017, 12:26:07 PM
i don't get it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 06, 2017, 12:55:13 PM
I didn't know until just now that the name of the road that circles with terminal c was Beirut. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 06, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
SeaTac is on the list too  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 06, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
SeaTac is on the list too  :thumbs:

eff them (the port).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 07, 2017, 09:26:58 PM
https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/07/kansas-city-is-now-a-smart-city/

not gonna lie this website is pretty rough ridin' sweet

http://smartkcmo.xaqt.com/dashboard#/KC/publicTraffic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2017, 09:32:11 PM
Cool start....hopefully they have a lot more data they can add to that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 08, 2017, 08:03:22 AM
the mph thing is hilarious
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 08, 2017, 07:32:54 PM
more proposed downtown development along the streetcar line. yawn. 

132-room hotel at 16th and Main:  http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article131509144.html#storylink=cpy

130-room apartment complex at 19th and Main:  http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article131424174.html

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 08, 2017, 08:07:04 PM
Pretty pumped about the 19th & Main project. It's the worst block in the x-roads imo


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2017, 09:52:02 PM
Pretty pumped about the 19th & Main project. It's the worst block in the x-roads imo


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I agree it has gotten bad, so will be nice when they redo it AND save some of the buildings on that block...a close second is the Grand to McGee block south of 19th that's all parking lot really pisses me off now a lot as I take that route from streetcar to your place and the sidewalks are SOOO BAD.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 08, 2017, 09:56:37 PM
Pretty pumped about the 19th & Main project. It's the worst block in the x-roads imo


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I agree it has gotten bad, so will be nice when they redo it AND save some of the buildings on that block...a close second is the Grand to McGee block south of 19th that's all parking lot really pisses me off now a lot as I take that route from streetcar to your place and the sidewalks are SOOO BAD.
That block is really bad too. I'm hoping with the new hotel going in at 20th and grand, that block gets rebuilt over the next few years. I do hate the parking lot that takes up an entire city block. That crap should be illegal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
75% of KCMO submitted $1B general fund budget going to law enforcement and fire. Increased 4.6% over last year. Fighting crime in KC isn't a funding problem....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2017, 04:49:44 PM
sucks that sly is too busy lobbying for his very own emmanuel clever boulevard instead of paying attention to what's happening on the streets of his city.  but i get it, the grunt work isn't as fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2017, 05:36:34 PM
sucks that sly is too busy lobbying for his very own emmanuel clever boulevard instead of paying attention to what's happening on the streets of his city.  but i get it, the grunt work isn't as fun.

West "Sly James" Plaza has a nice ring to it.  (BTW every mayor gets something named after them, so he shouldn't try so hard)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2017, 06:29:18 PM
unfortunately it won't involve a billion dollar airport but sly james memorial repaired sidewalk has a nice ring to it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on February 09, 2017, 06:31:13 PM
This thread fascinates me. I don't know what it's like to be passionate about my city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2017, 06:32:46 PM
unfortunately it won't involve a billion dollar airport but sly james memorial repaired sidewalk has a nice ring to it

I'm all for sidewalks over airport if I had to choose
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2017, 07:16:44 PM
me too!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2017, 08:39:12 PM
there aren't even sidewalks where i live so f sidewalks jmhoimo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 09, 2017, 09:22:19 PM
remember how great our sidewalks and streets were when Funk was running the show? The best. I mean, everything else was a nightmare.  But g damn, our pavement was nice.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 09, 2017, 09:46:33 PM
sidewalks is one of the better jams from the weeknd's new album  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2017, 09:55:58 PM
sidewalks is one of the better jams from the weeknd's new album  :th_twocents:

5/7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2017, 10:13:09 PM
remember how great our sidewalks and streets were when Funk was running the show? The best. I mean, everything else was a nightmare.  But g damn, our pavement was nice.

10x worse under Funk.  woof.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2017, 10:27:31 PM
great name tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on February 09, 2017, 10:30:19 PM
I knew a girl named Funk once. My gf at the time was her roommate. Gf said Funk was so smart I said you're double majoring in micro and biochem and you have a 3.9.

You party with me all weekend. She studies all the time. Who's smarter? Gf agrees I was right. Anyway. That's enough about dating Jayhawks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 09, 2017, 10:39:28 PM
How that abortion of an airport coming along?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 10, 2017, 07:23:21 AM
remember how great our sidewalks and streets were when Funk was running the show? The best. I mean, everything else was a nightmare.  But g damn, our pavement was nice.

just so you're aware, your boy sly is the same as funk just on the opposite side of  the spectrum
it really doesn't have to be one or the other but i understand how someone with limited cognitive ability like yourself would believe that to be the case
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 10, 2017, 10:16:55 AM
remember how great our sidewalks and streets were when Funk was running the show? The best. I mean, everything else was a nightmare.  But g damn, our pavement was nice.

just so you're aware, your boy sly is the same as funk just on the opposite side of  the spectrum
it really doesn't have to be one or the other but i understand how someone with limited cognitive ability like yourself would believe that to be the case

no need to resort to personal insults.  just friendly banter about the direction of the city - nothing wrong with that right? 



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 10, 2017, 10:43:06 AM
remember how great our sidewalks and streets were when Funk was running the show? The best. I mean, everything else was a nightmare.  But g damn, our pavement was nice.

just so you're aware, your boy sly is the same as funk just on the opposite side of  the spectrum
it really doesn't have to be one or the other but i understand how someone with limited cognitive ability like yourself would believe that to be the case

no need to resort to personal insults.  just friendly banter about the direction of the city - nothing wrong with that right? 





personal insults? gmafb.  post stupid crap like bringing up funkhouser into the discussion and you're getting called out for it
if it's too much for you then just stick with pinterest
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 10, 2017, 11:00:52 AM
remember how great our sidewalks and streets were when Funk was running the show? The best. I mean, everything else was a nightmare.  But g damn, our pavement was nice.

just so you're aware, your boy sly is the same as funk just on the opposite side of  the spectrum
it really doesn't have to be one or the other but i understand how someone with limited cognitive ability like yourself would believe that to be the case

no need to resort to personal insults.  just friendly banter about the direction of the city - nothing wrong with that right? 





personal insults? gmafb.  post stupid crap like bringing up funkhouser into the discussion and you're getting called out for it
if it's too much for you then just stick with pinterest

you're a strange one. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 10, 2017, 11:03:29 AM
That was a pretty mild jab(which doesn't even register on the insult meter) imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 10, 2017, 11:33:26 AM
That was a pretty mild jab(which doesn't even register on the insult meter) imo
i thought so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 10, 2017, 02:34:05 PM
When are we having lunch clams?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 10, 2017, 03:24:28 PM
v good question
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 10, 2017, 04:18:04 PM
Can I come?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 10, 2017, 05:04:12 PM
Can I come?


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Fine by me. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 12, 2017, 04:03:26 PM
JOCO going to build the airport now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 12, 2017, 04:03:40 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article132043299.html

good luck with that brownback
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on February 13, 2017, 09:25:25 AM
The airport already exists, it just needs a terminal.

IXD has great access to I-35 too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 13, 2017, 09:47:24 AM
 :shakesfist:  why did they have to build the airport all the way out in gardner  :shakesfist:


i really really would love for JOCO to build and maintain their own airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 13, 2017, 10:28:41 AM
imagine if there was an elite new airport in the dotte instead of a murderous water death machine
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 13, 2017, 11:25:58 AM
The Donald J Trump Wyandotte International Airport  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 14, 2017, 10:18:24 AM
http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/parents-whose-son-was-decapitated-by-waterslide-reveal-exactly-what-happened/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2017, 03:50:21 PM
I'm commuting for the time being, but I'm going to be a Kansas City thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2017, 03:51:59 PM
 :thumbs: Welcome!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 17, 2017, 03:53:25 PM
I'm commuting for the time being, but I'm going to be a Kansas City thing.

fuckface
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 17, 2017, 03:56:55 PM
 :combofan:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2017, 04:03:52 PM
New job, or same dudes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2017, 04:23:48 PM
I'm commuting for the time being, but I'm going to be a Kansas City thing.

fuckface

I will fight you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2017, 04:24:17 PM
New job, or same dudes

new gig, same industry.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 17, 2017, 04:24:42 PM
 :surprised: :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2017, 04:24:56 PM
:thumbs: Welcome!

:combofan:

thanks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2017, 04:31:29 PM
New job, or same dudes

new gig, same industry.

Congrats friend
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on February 18, 2017, 07:20:34 AM
Congrats PMS, maybe your new job will let you buy my widgets!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
shalom!  just avoid the airport at all costs (it sucks)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
Also avoid the streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 18, 2017, 01:33:46 PM
Also no Whataburger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2017, 02:18:22 PM
Don't leave your shoes outside after a camping trip. :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2017, 06:39:11 PM
Welcome to the Hyatt Medical Center :puke:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/e0iber/picture134017459/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/kc%20convention%20hotel%20rendering
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 21, 2017, 07:50:16 PM
we're paying for it, should have a say in its final design
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2017, 07:53:04 PM
we're paying for it, should have a say in its final design

Agree.  Probably too late but I'm putting my comments into the planning department.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 21, 2017, 08:13:24 PM
not sure what drove them to loser fest design but yes i am it was a financial decision.  i wish i knew more about our agreement with the developers, is that contract public?

the pessimist in me would say that they dumbed down the design in an effort to speed up their roi
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2017, 08:35:30 PM
Welcome to the Hyatt Medical Center :puke:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/e0iber/picture134017459/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/kc%20convention%20hotel%20rendering

Haha, why did someone shop that 70s IRS building into a current photo of kc?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2017, 08:53:56 PM
not sure what drove them to loser fest design but yes i am it was a financial decision.  i wish i knew more about our agreement with the developers, is that contract public?

the pessimist in me would say that they dumbed down the design in an effort to speed up their roi

I agree it was financial as the city didn't back their bonds and only gave them the land....so financing is tight.  I think all the pertinent points to the development agreement have been made public $5MM in land and the catering for the convention center...but the city manager may have more info.

I'm sure the dumbed down design was all about construction costs....sadly this is the design of many hotels this size in other cities....all gross.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 21, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
it's not like the design will stop people from staying at it, just that when you're putting together a 100 year building it would be nice to be forward thinking
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2017, 09:17:50 PM
it's not like the design will stop people from staying at it, just that when you're putting together a 100 year building it would be nice to be forward thinking

Couldn't agree more.  Not only that, the design within the block is poor.  It turns it's back on the PAC and is a very subpar pedestrian experience on 16th...while the cool north side lobby stuff is pushed up against i670
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 21, 2017, 09:28:24 PM
man, look at this, Clams and Phil getting along like regular pals.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2017, 10:16:35 PM
not sure what drove them to loser fest design but yes i am it was a financial decision.  i wish i knew more about our agreement with the developers, is that contract public?

the pessimist in me would say that they dumbed down the design in an effort to speed up their roi

I agree it was financial as the city didn't back their bonds and only gave them the land....so financing is tight.  I think all the pertinent points to the development agreement have been made public $5MM in land and the catering for the convention center...but the city manager may have more info.

I'm sure the dumbed down design was all about construction costs....sadly this is the design of many hotels this size in other cities....all gross.

I forgot about the $35MM the city is also giving this project...that money is coming in form of a bond that is backed from tourism taxes that are paid through hotel (7.5%) and restaurant (including booze) (2%) taxes. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2017, 08:35:03 AM
-A $35 million cash contribution, which will actually cost about $2 million in convention and tourism taxes per year over a 25-year bond. The city has been spending that amount of money annually to retire debt on Kemper Arena, but that payment ends next year.

-City-owned land, valued at about $13 million, which covers about three-fourths of the hotel block. The developer must still acquire the rest from the American Hereford Association.

-Tax incentives valued at $80 million to $100 million over 30 years. The deal calls for capturing all new property, sales and earnings tax revenue generated by the hotel to help finance its development. Those incentives will be reviewed at a June 30 meeting.

-The hotel block would also collect and keep revenue from an additional 1-cent sales tax on the property.

-Exclusive catering rights for 15 years for events in the Bartle Hall Grand Ballroom. According to the memorandum of understanding, the value of that deal was estimated at $2.4 million to $5.4 million per year for 15 years.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2017, 09:08:28 AM
The positive thing KCMO did here was cement their cost for the project. There isn't a question about future performance impacting city budgets.

I don't have a problem with how they structured the financing but for what the city is doing, I think it needs to be a better designed project.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 22, 2017, 09:13:38 AM
(http://www.smartmeetings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/kccch-rendering-6-e1432315814193.jpg)

 :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 22, 2017, 09:14:48 AM
damn, that sucks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2017, 09:28:54 AM
$35M ($50M) cash
$13M land
$90M TIF
$60M catering
$? $.01 sales tax

kcmo is funding +$200M of an ugly $310M hotel.  sad!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 22, 2017, 09:30:21 AM
Probably won't even catch drinks at the Hyatt chode with mocat now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 22, 2017, 09:40:54 AM
Suck it, Indianapolis convention business
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on February 22, 2017, 09:47:17 AM
$35M ($50M) cash
$13M land
$90M TIF
$60M catering
$? $.01 sales tax

kcmo is funding +$200M of an ugly $310M hotel.  sad!

Wowzza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2017, 09:48:46 AM
$35M ($50M) cash
$13M land
$90M TIF
$60M catering
$? $.01 sales tax

kcmo is funding +$200M of an ugly $310M hotel.  sad!


The 90M TIF isn't money we are getting now. Can't count what you never had.  the 60M catering comes from convention center users they just have no vendor choice, this isn't unique in the industry ....The sales tax comes from people staying there...The city wouldn't get this sales tax revenue as it's on top of the established rates.

It's a horrible ugly design and making me turn against this thing even though I think it's important for the city (as I've seen how much money hospitality brings to this city and employs)....But I don't have problems with how the city has supported this project financially...I'm not a TIF hater though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2017, 09:55:53 AM
you've refuted nothing i said, SAD!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2017, 09:58:48 AM
It's not my project, I'm not here to refute anything although I don't agree with counting non existent money as a cost to the city. That's dumb dumb logic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2017, 10:41:10 AM
It's not my project, I'm not here to refute anything although I don't agree with counting non existent money as a cost to the city. That's dumb dumb logic.

no one said anything about a "cost to the city". you're pivoting, kellyanne.
i said we're funding over a third of the project.  seems desperate for a city with such promise.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2017, 11:18:48 AM
It's not my project, I'm not here to refute anything although I don't agree with counting non existent money as a cost to the city. That's dumb dumb logic.

no one said anything about a "cost to the city". you're pivoting, kellyanne.
i said we're funding over a third of the project.  seems desperate for a city with such promise.

Fair point I see what you are saying. How does it fall in line with other projects in other cities? I know Denver bonded the entire cost of their convention hotel....They have promise.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 22, 2017, 11:23:28 AM
They need to redesign that huge piece of poo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 22, 2017, 04:06:06 PM
The hotel is ugly, and if that's what ends up getting built I'll be pissed.

May have been covered here, but 'clams how do you feel about the GO bond?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2017, 04:28:47 PM
(http://www.smartmeetings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/kccch-rendering-6-e1432315814193.jpg)

 :bawl:
See that rooftop on top of the Baltimore building? Mrs. Wacky and I's first date started there and ended there.  :fatty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2017, 07:21:40 PM
anyone know what's going on in the KC BOE parking lot south of the building b/w oak and mcgee?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2017, 07:35:18 PM
anyone know what's going on in the KC BOE parking lot south of the building b/w oak and mcgee?

haven't heard of anything going in that lot....I think it's still owned by KCSD.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2017, 07:41:27 PM
the lot itself is gone, it's now all dirt, looks like they're digging there

there were actually two lots (east and west) that were evenly sized, half the building each and then directly south of them there was a larger lot that spanned b/w oak and mcgee
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2017, 07:55:29 PM
interesting....can't find any permits for that location.  Gotta be something better than those ratty lots that were there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 24, 2017, 09:54:21 AM
you people that own houses: what is going on with my water bill
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2017, 10:14:01 AM
Ghost water.

Thank prior generations who kicked water and sewer fixes down the road. We are paying for it now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 24, 2017, 10:34:35 AM
leak
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 24, 2017, 10:34:51 AM
previous owners didn't winterize sprinkler system
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on February 24, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
previous owners didn't winterize sprinkler system
Myth. I have never done this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2017, 10:53:26 AM
mo'watermo'problemscat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on February 24, 2017, 11:43:11 AM
previous owners didn't winterize sprinkler system
Myth. I have never done this.

me neither
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2017, 11:49:17 AM
bluevillenurserycat does mine for free every year.  :cool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2017, 11:59:14 AM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/stealing-spaces-kansas-city-parking-problems-exposed

saw this on the news last night from awesome and not weird reporter ariel rothfield

it's something i've been interested since a lot of it is focused on where i live
downtown doesn't seem like an issue at all but valet and carryout only parking spots on the plaza have gotten out of control.  the kcmo parking guy acted like the carry-out only spots aren't allowed and that they're trying to crack down on them but that's a load of crap b/c the same signs have been outside the same plaza restaurants for years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2017, 12:34:29 PM
Where these signs are placed....Are they officially loading zones so shouldn't be parking there for any length of time anyways?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 02, 2017, 12:37:09 PM
just take an uber, am i right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2017, 01:01:29 PM
Where these signs are placed....Are they officially loading zones so shouldn't be parking there for any length of time anyways?
carry out spots-
bo lings 3 spots on street:  jefferson and 47th, on jefferson
jackstack 3 spots, maybe 4 on street: wyandotte in front of their carry out
zoe's might be a loading zone, not sure never go over that far or paid attention

valet
all the valet on the plaza pick cars up in front/next to the restaurants that they're assigned to then go park the cars in a private area in the closest garage (we can get into how they get away with that later) except for The Oliver, they actually take 4-5 on-street spots which is kinda incredible to think about in late november/december because the garages and the on streets are all full that time of year.

it's a sham.  the plaza is getting paid by the valet company to allow them their own private garage space, the city is getting paid by the valet company for the permit, and the city streets which i've already paid to pave and maintain, are off limits to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 02, 2017, 01:03:43 PM
one thing we can all agree on: parking in the plaza is a huge problem
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2017, 01:05:27 PM
i noticed last week that vinca just bought a loading zone permit on jefferson, the owner essentially bought himself a private parking spot in what used to be a public space.  the fedex and ups delivery drivers park on 48th when they make his deliveries as the spot isn't big enough for anything but a regular sized vehicle

i'm guessing he lied on his application or it was just rubber stamped
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2017, 01:05:56 PM
one thing we can all agree on: parking in the plaza is a huge problem

it's really not at all, do you think it is?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 02, 2017, 01:09:07 PM
one thing we can all agree on: parking in the plaza is a huge problem

it's really not at all, do you think it is?
Thinking mocat was laying on the sarcasm


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
Where these signs are placed....Are they officially loading zones so shouldn't be parking there for any length of time anyways?
carry out spots-
bo lings 3 spots on street:  jefferson and 47th, on jefferson
jackstack 3 spots, maybe 4 on street: wyandotte in front of their carry out
zoe's might be a loading zone, not sure never go over that far or paid attention

valet
all the valet on the plaza pick cars up in front/next to the restaurants that they're assigned to then go park the cars in a private area in the closest garage (we can get into how they get away with that later) except for The Oliver, they actually take 4-5 on-street spots which is kinda incredible to think about in late november/december because the garages and the on streets are all full that time of year.

it's a sham.  the plaza is getting paid by the valet company to allow them their own private garage space, the city is getting paid by the valet company for the permit, and the city streets which i've already paid to pave and maintain, are off limits to me.

And you are paying for the garages Everytime you buy something on the plaza.

Make them apply for loading zone or valet only zone with the city...Report unofficial signs to 311....Easy solution here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 02, 2017, 02:35:38 PM
I thought as long as you didn't park on people's leaves you were fine?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2017, 02:39:46 PM
I thought as long as you didn't park on people's leaves you were fine?   :dunno:

You rollin up on my leaves!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2017, 03:37:36 PM
one thing we can all agree on: parking in the plaza is a huge problem

it's really not at all, do you think it is?
Thinking mocat was laying on the sarcasm


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yeah, he's good like that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2017, 03:54:58 PM
Last time I was at the plaza it was a little busy and I had to park on lvl 4 of the garage  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 02, 2017, 04:24:35 PM
one thing we can all agree on: parking in the plaza is a huge problem

it's really not at all, do you think it is?
Never had a problem. Ever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on March 02, 2017, 06:36:09 PM
plaza parking anecdote: i saw a lifted g-wagon smash its roof on a plaza parking garage lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2017, 06:09:04 PM
Prison or airport?

(http://i.imgur.com/imbQR4H.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2017, 06:50:10 PM
Bunker
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 03, 2017, 07:05:29 PM
KU press box
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2017, 07:06:49 PM
Looks like MCI to me. :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 03, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
Prisons would not have that type of window imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 03, 2017, 08:14:03 PM
maybe we do need bigger windows to get a better view of the great and expansive tarmac.  what a weird thing to bitch about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2017, 09:08:19 PM
Prisons would not have that type of window imo

Take. It to the all about prisons thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2017, 09:09:09 PM
maybe we do need bigger windows to get a better view of the great and expansive tarmac.  what a weird thing to bitch about.

Bad joke maybe... Bitching, hardly....There are real problems with KCI to bitch about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2017, 12:15:55 PM
like what? it's so great?
please son people who love kc don't ever cry about the airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2017, 11:57:17 PM
I love one thing... And it's clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 05, 2017, 12:12:25 AM
The suspense on how badly 'clams disregards this is overwhelming 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 06, 2017, 12:58:22 PM
god, I'm going to be so drunk for 4 days straight in KC this week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 06, 2017, 01:03:57 PM
Have fun  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 06, 2017, 01:35:05 PM
Have fun  :)

Thanks. Hope I have some gE run ins.. probably won't remember them, but oh well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 06, 2017, 08:33:42 PM
Any other Phillips pak'rs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2017, 07:02:49 AM
Midtown Manhattan through security at LGA in 30 minutes....In morning rush. Tell me again how convenient kci is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 07, 2017, 07:21:11 AM
Maybe just move there? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2017, 07:24:16 AM
Maybe just move there? :dunno:

Weird argument on this blog.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 07, 2017, 07:26:23 AM
Prison or airport?

(http://i.imgur.com/imbQR4H.jpg)

Weird argument for any blog.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2017, 07:27:21 AM
Not concreteandwindowsreviews.com
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 07, 2017, 07:28:47 AM
Virus
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2017, 08:15:31 AM
It seems like Phil just said he thinks La Guardia is better than MCI
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2017, 08:20:14 AM
It's crap but they have made some nice upgrades.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2017, 09:28:26 AM
It seems like Phil just said he thinks La Guardia is better than MCI

i think he was saying that they're both really good. 

i regularly get through lines at LAX in less than 5 minutes, just like at mci.  our small po-dunk hillbilly airport can compete with the best of them.  amazing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 07, 2017, 09:35:55 AM
previous owners didn't winterize sprinkler system
Myth. I have never done this.

not a myth, but it may be impossible to tell if you've had issues unless they are major and you really track your irrigation usage extremely closely
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2017, 09:38:15 AM
It seems like Phil just said he thinks La Guardia is better than MCI

i think he was saying that they're both really good. 

i regularly get through lines at LAX in less than 5 minutes, just like at mci.  our small po-dunk hillbilly airport can compete with the best of them.  amazing.

Great point. Go kci airport workers!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2017, 12:31:17 PM
de la soul & jason isbell, not bad for motm fest  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2017, 12:58:17 PM
that's very esp type stuff.   i am on de la soul's mailing list and got an email yesterday with theirupcoming tour dates so i was like, oh lemme check if de la is coming to kc.  i checked, nope. sad face. then here we are just 17 hours later.

how does this event's ticketing work?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on March 08, 2017, 01:16:21 PM
de la soul & jason isbell, not bad for motm fest  :dunno:

Unfortunately it drops off hard after those two. 80% local bands aren't worth $75(3 day pass)

De la soul at Grinders for $35(single day) is probably worth it though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 08, 2017, 01:20:37 PM
de la soul & jason isbell, not bad for motm fest  :dunno:

Seen Isbell a couple times, great shows
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2017, 01:26:10 PM
De la soul at Grinders for $35(single day) is probably worth it

yaesh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2017, 01:27:49 PM
Isbell, what a talent. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on March 08, 2017, 03:17:16 PM
all in for that Lewis Del Mar show
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 15, 2017, 02:55:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6-BlUhWYAAWJRj.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 15, 2017, 03:00:04 PM
What in the world? GS KC jersey?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on March 15, 2017, 03:02:42 PM
so much going on there :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 15, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
sup i'm just gonna pop on my UMKC charlie hustle jersey and, oh wait i got hungry, good thing there's tons of topsys p-corn right behind my head
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on March 15, 2017, 03:05:36 PM
i mean, a bow tie made of bow ties.  how deep does this thing go?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 15, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Is that some weird ass chair by the computer?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 15, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
Do you guys think George Brett has just of a punchable face as Pete Rose? What about Len Dawson compared to boomer esiason. Eerily similar, right?

Both George and Pete are dislikeable chodes and listening to Boomer and Len Dawson on the air is as depressing as it comes. Wow! What a world.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 15, 2017, 03:25:39 PM
oh man i just got zapped
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 15, 2017, 06:04:14 PM
if betsy puts the lysol wipes on top of the refrigerator again, she's done for
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 15, 2017, 07:07:13 PM
SdK is currently a kc thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 15, 2017, 07:09:36 PM
As the band Reflector would say, I'm in on Roanoke.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 15, 2017, 09:17:39 PM
Those UMKC jerseys  :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 16, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
As the band Reflector would say, I'm in on Roanoke.

holy crap i never imagined Reflector getting mentioned on this blog
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 16, 2017, 10:51:20 AM
As the band Reflector would say, I'm in on Roanoke.

holy crap i never imagined Reflector getting mentioned on this blog
It's the second time I have. Made reference to I Refuse to Mute in one of the song threads and you were blown away then.

Was waiting for you to see this one. Haha :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on March 16, 2017, 10:53:53 AM
As the band Reflector would say, I'm in on Roanoke.

holy crap i never imagined Reflector getting mentioned on this blog

Yeah, whoa. Deep Kansas City Things ... 

What's next, Phil Titola quoting the Breakups' "Down on My Town"?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 16, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
Actually two other times

In Golfcats:

Quote
Hahahahah I'm currently at Western Hills jamming to Reflector and smashing balls.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 16, 2017, 10:58:19 AM
And http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37243.msg1525991.msg#1525991 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37243.msg1525991.msg#1525991)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 16, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 16, 2017, 11:00:10 AM
As the band Reflector would say, I'm in on Roanoke.

holy crap i never imagined Reflector getting mentioned on this blog

Yeah, whoa. Deep Kansas City Things ... 

What's next, Phil Titola quoting the Breakups' "Down on My Town"?
When I was younger 17-21 I ran around with a band called TopHat from mhk/Lawrence. They introduced me to a lot of local or underground things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 16, 2017, 11:41:41 AM
SdK you like the Casket Lottery?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 16, 2017, 11:54:03 AM
I don't listen to them currently. I did see then live and have one of their stickers on a foot locket. I do not remember the show though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on March 16, 2017, 12:00:07 PM
I wish I could remember all the band's I've seen live. I used to make the mhk/lfk/kc circuit quite a bit. From bars to house parties. Alcohol has rotted my brain though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 17, 2017, 10:48:25 PM
LOL moment....

After getting off the MAX from midtown where two hard hittin gangsters were about to roll each other, walked over to Doubleshift.  Sitting at the bar a group as "Is {KCFDCat} here?" to which the two bartenders laughed and said...uhhhh, no.

More hoppy beers KCFD!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2017, 06:57:14 AM
Man Phil got demolished last night
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 18, 2017, 08:49:41 AM
4.57/7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 18, 2017, 09:27:48 AM
LOL
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7MmXdhVwAAQFRF.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 18, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
LOL moment....

After getting off the MAX from midtown where two hard hittin gangsters were about to roll each other, walked over to Doubleshift.  Sitting at the bar a group as "Is {KCFDCat} here?" to which the two bartenders laughed and said...uhhhh, no.

More hoppy beers KCFD!
Sorry dude, I have the flu :(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 18, 2017, 09:38:20 AM
LOL moment....

After getting off the MAX from midtown where two hard hittin gangsters were about to roll each other, walked over to Doubleshift.  Sitting at the bar a group as "Is {KCFDCat} here?" to which the two bartenders laughed and said...uhhhh, no.

More hoppy beers KCFD!
Sorry dude, I have the flu :(

wasn't me searching for you...I and your excellent bartenders thought it was funny this group thought the owner would be there on a Friday night of St. Pats.  Heal up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 18, 2017, 09:39:37 AM
LOL moment....

After getting off the MAX from midtown where two hard hittin gangsters were about to roll each other, walked over to Doubleshift.  Sitting at the bar a group as "Is {KCFDCat} here?" to which the two bartenders laughed and said...uhhhh, no.

More hoppy beers KCFD!
Sorry dude, I have the flu :(

wasn't me searching for you...I and your excellent bartenders thought it was funny this group thought the owner would be there on a Friday night of St. Pats.
Ah.

Ps we have a NE IPA coming out in a few weeks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 19, 2017, 01:05:02 PM
LOL
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7MmXdhVwAAQFRF.jpg)

Look at how short the A List line is. :blush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
checking bags is so hilarious
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 21, 2017, 02:27:59 PM
checking bags is so hilarious
This
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 22, 2017, 10:22:39 AM
Forte out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2017, 11:59:44 AM
seems like a nice guy but it wasn't working
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 23, 2017, 04:44:24 PM
Tuck-car
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7ofyH8WsAAcXhX.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2017, 04:59:15 PM
Who's creepier? The guy staring at Phil or Phil  blatantly taking a pic of some random guy, with the guy knowing?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 23, 2017, 05:03:05 PM
I did not take that pic. Saw it on my Twitter feed.

Source weirdo
https://mobile.twitter.com/eliza1842/status/845022836355883008
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 23, 2017, 06:01:08 PM
That guy gives me the creeps
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 23, 2017, 09:33:57 PM
I did not take that pic. Saw it on my Twitter feed.

Source weirdo
https://mobile.twitter.com/eliza1842/status/845022836355883008

YEAH HE WAS PROBABLY A LIB THO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 23, 2017, 10:45:51 PM
500k owed to Forte in retirement.....

can we please get rid of state controlled police now?  That board signed a horrible contract.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2017, 08:37:19 AM
I did not take that pic. Saw it on my Twitter feed.

Source weirdo
https://mobile.twitter.com/eliza1842/status/845022836355883008

YEAH HE WAS PROBABLY A LIB THO
WUT?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 29, 2017, 06:20:59 PM
anyone know what's going on in the KC BOE parking lot south of the building b/w oak and mcgee?

I've went by here a  couple of times and nothing is going on....Board of Education building right?  Lots look exactly as they always have.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
i realized that it's not the BOE building, it's the building housing Clear Internet Services, sw corner of 13th and locust
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 30, 2017, 03:40:37 PM
i realized that it's not the BOE building, it's the building housing Clear Internet Services, sw corner of 13th and locust

The buildings are going to be a holiday inn and a co working office space in the other. I assume they will just redo the parking lots to accommodate them once construction is done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 04, 2017, 01:18:43 PM
this $!#* was finally arrested
http://fox4kc.com/2016/09/11/man-taken-into-custody-in-edwards-mo-in-connection-with-missing-raymore-woman/

I read up a bit on that guy's backstory. Sucks people like him get a chance to strike again. Hopefully there's a good outcome but I have serious doubts she is alive.

this is just a mind blowing story that needs the Serial treatment

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article142587629.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article142587629.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2017, 01:24:42 PM
Yeah, very sad, hope it's him and everyone can have some sort of closure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 04, 2017, 01:49:29 PM
Everytime I have to hear about that POS my mind immediately goes to the "white people name" thread. I hope he suffers horribly in prison forever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 04, 2017, 02:09:08 PM
i mean

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/qbjxzk/picture105028996/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/Yust,%20Kylr,%20Jackson%20County%20jail)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 04, 2017, 03:58:13 PM
Yeah, hope this is pretty case closed on him.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 04, 2017, 04:03:52 PM
Weird makeup
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2017, 07:22:37 PM
i don't see how this solidifies their case against him any more than before.  i get that they may have the bodies now but as i understand it, the cops will be doing well to find the girls' own dna on the remains they found, let alone the dickhead's. 
i'm worried that their case is too circumstantial.  i don't know if they have enough evidence tying him to the girls at the time of their disappearance. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2017, 10:50:51 PM
i think everything on tonight's ballot passed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on April 05, 2017, 12:04:14 AM
i don't see how this solidifies their case against him any more than before.  i get that they may have the bodies now but as i understand it, the cops will be doing well to find the girls' own dna on the remains they found, let alone the dickhead's. 
i'm worried that their case is too circumstantial.  i don't know if they have enough evidence tying him to the girls at the time of their disappearance.
Should hire Dr. Brennan and the Jeffersonian.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on April 05, 2017, 07:53:12 PM
https://twitter.com/EmilyRittman/status/849786632815431680

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 05, 2017, 07:58:14 PM
i think everything on tonight's ballot passed

 :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 05, 2017, 10:42:33 PM
https://twitter.com/EmilyRittman/status/849786632815431680

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk



i hope that they get the guy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 07, 2017, 10:06:58 PM
Congrats to KCFD. My parents are downtown bar hopping, told them to hit up your joint and this was the response. Sorry she butchered your business name.

Quote
  2nd shift was at full capacity. We r at torn label brewery now in case we come up missing.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 08, 2017, 11:30:13 AM
Can co that first Friday was lit last night
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 08, 2017, 11:51:51 AM
Yep
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 08, 2017, 04:06:44 PM
Congrats to KCFD. My parents are downtown bar hopping, told them to hit up your joint and this was the response. Sorry she butchered your business name.

Quote
  2nd shift was at full capacity. We r at torn label brewery now in case we come up missing.   
Lol, love the "in case we come up missing" line.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 08, 2017, 04:11:46 PM
My parents are a bunch of wacky kids. :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 08, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
Wacky kids make a wacky cat kid :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 08, 2017, 09:12:48 PM
what a great kansas city weekend guys. 
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 10, 2017, 10:03:56 AM
That big glass building thing by the sprint center looks nice :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
i still can't believe they're putting those other new apartments next to southwest boulevard/i-35.   seems like the worst location ever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on April 10, 2017, 11:35:09 AM
i still can't believe they're putting those other new apartments next to southwest boulevard/i-35.   seems like the worst location ever

Thought the same thing. I could underhand toss a pebble from the furthest right NB lane to the closest unit's windows. Hope they splurged on soundproofing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2017, 01:19:27 PM
i still can't believe they're putting those other new apartments next to southwest boulevard/i-35.   seems like the worst location ever

Thought the same thing. I could underhand toss a pebble from the furthest right NB lane to the closest unit's windows. Hope they splurged on soundproofing.

And I read they aren't going to be cheap.... Insane
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 01:29:14 PM
My apt is right by I70 and I don't hear crap. Much more quiet than when i lived in central Topeka.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2017, 02:08:25 PM
My apt is right by I70 and I don't hear crap. Much more quiet than when i lived in central Topeka.

these are literally on the shoulder of i-35 tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 02:12:37 PM
Touche. My apt is on the back end of the complex, furthest from i70. Probably 200 yards away if not more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2017, 02:40:59 PM
I bet the freeway is just white noise after a couple of days.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on April 10, 2017, 03:46:10 PM
Street View
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0854779,-94.5922516,3a,75y,111.51h,76.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syV6HwfmnnsdQ7EakheDLpQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 10, 2017, 04:46:09 PM
i still can't believe they're putting those other new apartments next to southwest boulevard/i-35.   seems like the worst location ever
Basically wedged between I 35, broadway bridge, and train tracks. I mean, kc has plenty of land for development, why pick that parcel? Maybe in 15 years that makes sense, but there's at least 30 vacant lots within 1.5 miles of that location.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 10, 2017, 04:58:30 PM
I'm guessing money is the reason
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2017, 08:35:27 PM
Damnit rusty it's not a freeway man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 11, 2017, 08:00:51 PM
nike store is going into part of the former halls location
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
Damnit rusty it's not a freeway man.

How is i-35 not a freeway?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 11, 2017, 10:06:56 PM
Damnit rusty it's not a freeway man.

How is i-35 not a freeway?

Because it's not in California, man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 08:07:59 AM
Damnit rusty it's not a freeway man.

How is i-35 not a freeway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSLOe7Ke4j8
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 12, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
Guys I was just funning at regional vernacular.  Rusty is no doubt a hayseed gone native. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2017, 09:39:46 AM
My apt is right by I70 and I don't hear crap. Much more quiet than when i lived in central Topeka.

these are literally on the shoulder of i-35 tho

I am going to honk those residents awake every morning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 12, 2017, 01:22:24 PM
nike store is going into part of the former halls location

Pretty elite actually
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2017, 01:46:31 PM
nike store is going into part of the former halls location

Pretty elite actually

semi-elite.  they ship +$150 free and everything is online so it's ok i guess to have a brick and mortar.  better than a crap store like could have gone in.  7-8 years ago it would have been much eliter when they had nike store exclusives.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2017, 01:47:29 PM
i did see manny pacquiao at the nike store in santa monica which was elite
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 01:52:16 PM
is this any different than the nike store at legends? if not, gross
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2017, 01:56:57 PM

there's not a lot of outlet stores on the plaza, westportcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
oh ok so "nike factory store" = "nike outlet store" =/= "nike store" ?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2017, 02:19:25 PM
(http://www.sciencebuddies.org/Users/MicroV/idtp/2113.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 02:22:16 PM
 :eek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2017, 02:52:44 PM
Guys I was just funning at regional vernacular.  Rusty is no doubt a hayseed gone native.
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 04:04:43 PM
City looking to vacate the heart of Westport and hand it over to Westport businesses. This isn't good fellas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 12, 2017, 04:08:08 PM
Maybe they can get that weirdo from Port Fonda to be the mayor of Westport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 12, 2017, 04:09:40 PM
wait, what?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
https://t.co/Nw4dEXaDG0
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 12, 2017, 04:17:45 PM
nike store is going into part of the former halls location
Weird. 'Stone told me they were doing just fine and that Mrs Wacky was a liar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2017, 04:20:28 PM
That reads to me that they just want to shut down the street to traffic. Why is that bad?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 12, 2017, 04:23:09 PM
doesn't need to be 24/7 imo just at nights like they've been doing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2017, 04:27:29 PM
If the businesses think it's positive, then who cares. It's not like it's a major traffic route, and they do it on weekends already.  :zzz:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2017, 04:28:34 PM
I'm also a big fan of closing streets in entertainment districts, so acknowledgeing my #'bias
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on April 12, 2017, 04:30:54 PM
thx man
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 04:54:03 PM
If the businesses think it's positive, then who cares. It's not like it's a major traffic route, and they do it on weekends already.  :zzz:

The city shouldn't give away public assets like this if you ask me. Once we give it away, it's gone forever. It also reduces walkability in a walkable dense neighborhood. 

The neighborhoods have been given no input into this decision. Westport is more than just the businesses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2017, 04:57:01 PM
You can still walk on the street, unless you think they are going to charge cover at 3pm on Thursday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on April 12, 2017, 05:07:48 PM
Once we give it away, it's gone forever.

not (any) kind of lawyer but seems to me there's a reversion clause should the CID dissolve
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 05:08:23 PM
You can still walk on the street, unless you think they are going to charge cover at 3pm on Thursday
Lib...that's the thing.  When you give the ROW to the business association, they can easily do that w/o the city having any business saying no.

This solves nothing.  If you don't mind them blocking the streets on weekends (I'm not a fan of this) then why not continue with how the practice works now, they apply for festival license and it goes through city approvals.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 05:09:34 PM
Once we give it away, it's gone forever.

not (any) kind of lawyer but seems to me there's a reversion clause should the CID dissolve

you are correct.  I'm talking realities though...once a city gives this away, it doesn't come back.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2017, 05:13:22 PM
You can still walk on the street, unless you think they are going to charge cover at 3pm on Thursday
Lib...that's the thing.  When you give the ROW to the business association, they can easily do that w/o the city having any business saying no.

This solves nothing.  If you don't mind them blocking the streets on weekends (I'm not a fan of this) then why not continue with how the practice works now, they apply for festival license and it goes through city approvals.

Ideally the city just gives permanent or yearly status and they close the street all the time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 05:14:11 PM
What does vacate the intersection even mean?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 05:18:11 PM
You can still walk on the street, unless you think they are going to charge cover at 3pm on Thursday
Lib...that's the thing.  When you give the ROW to the business association, they can easily do that w/o the city having any business saying no.

This solves nothing.  If you don't mind them blocking the streets on weekends (I'm not a fan of this) then why not continue with how the practice works now, they apply for festival license and it goes through city approvals.

Ideally the city just gives permanent or yearly status and they close the street all the time.

That's a better solution than the city giving it away.  This is the wrong way to fix the Westport problems.  Ultimately I guess I don't care as I don't visit westport often anymore but this is bad public policy and doesn't fix any problems. (Theory time) This is westport whining to the city that they want this because "P&L is taking our business" and they are blaming the city for that....so this is a way for the city to shut them up .
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 05:20:35 PM
There is no shortage of business in westport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 05:23:14 PM
What does vacate the intersection even mean?

this gives an overview of the "agreement"...basically the city doesn't control from 40th Street south Penn to archibald and on westport from Mill St to Broadway.  They can block off and charge a cover to the area (control all access to streets and sidewalks) as described in the list of events and whenever they want providing a week of notice to the city.

http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/liveweb/Documents/ViewAttachment.aspx?q=74yEKITkrbH2%2fhlYiEB%2bg5OG8tryyHTwTt4k9Xji5nDYdSmySIQ8ZK3vpG5lc4RB9%2bremW8csMuJs63G0b45jQ%3d%3d

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 05:24:14 PM
Oh pfffft so no difference at all, ok
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 12, 2017, 05:24:59 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article144264359.html#storylink=twt_staff (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article144264359.html#storylink=twt_staff)

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/cpawte/picture144264354/alternates/FREE_960/KCCCH%20Aerial%20Rendering%20April%202017)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
There is no shortage of business in westport

Understood.  Also no shortage of home owners and renters.  With more on the way.  With this, anybody not wanting to pay a cover or under 21 can't use those businesses when westport decides they want to shut down the streets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 05:26:26 PM
Oh pfffft so no difference at all, ok

Giving public streets / sidewalks to private entities is kind of a difference.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 05:27:30 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article144264359.html#storylink=twt_staff (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article144264359.html#storylink=twt_staff)

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/cpawte/picture144264354/alternates/FREE_960/KCCCH%20Aerial%20Rendering%20April%202017)

My god it's getting shorter and uglier
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 05:29:32 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article144264359.html#storylink=twt_staff (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article144264359.html#storylink=twt_staff)

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/cpawte/picture144264354/alternates/FREE_960/KCCCH%20Aerial%20Rendering%20April%202017)

My god it's getting shorter and uglier

the opposite corner looks a little better but man it is so gross.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2017, 05:46:39 PM
Very lenexay
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on April 12, 2017, 05:50:24 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170412/ff83e24d836898f74c3c7fe92cd69436.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2017, 06:09:56 PM
It looks like a very nice public housing project
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2017, 06:16:07 PM
That better only be a 5K/night'r.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 12, 2017, 06:21:55 PM
I think giving the street away is a bit too far, but I'm totally for it being a pedestrian only area. I can't even remember the last time I drove thru that intersection. It's a clusterfuck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2017, 06:27:50 PM
if the westport row is given away, the area's economics will dictate how the business association treats it

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2017, 06:34:05 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article144264359.html#storylink=twt_staff (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article144264359.html#storylink=twt_staff)

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/cpawte/picture144264354/alternates/FREE_960/KCCCH%20Aerial%20Rendering%20April%202017)

i wonder if that architect went to k-state  :confused:

(https://www.k-state.edu/maps/buildings/HY/hy.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 06:46:53 PM
I can't even remember the last time I drove thru that intersection. It's a clusterfuck

if you are heading south from downtown on I-35 / SW trafficway, the only place you can turn left before the plaza is Mill St, and approximately 100% of people turning left continue through westport. it's the only connection to Broadway/Main street. there is absolutely no way it will be closed any more than it already is (late at night on the weekends, or during art shows/concerts/whatever)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2017, 07:07:56 PM
actually a lot of people do their grocery shopping at that sun fresh and stop there.  anyone that continues into westport deserves what they get
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 07:08:45 PM
I think giving the street away is a bit too far, but I'm totally for it being a pedestrian only area. I can't even remember the last time I drove thru that intersection. It's a clusterfuck

I'd be okay with that. I don't like their constant controlling access and charging a cover. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2017, 09:56:40 PM
I can't even remember the last time I drove thru that intersection. It's a clusterfuck

if you are heading south from downtown on I-35 / SW trafficway, the only place you can turn left before the plaza is Mill St, and approximately 100% of people turning left continue through westport. it's the only connection to Broadway/Main street. there is absolutely no way it will be closed any more than it already is (late at night on the weekends, or during art shows/concerts/whatever)

Not a fan of taking the side street by Missie B's to go left on 39th?

No I'm not a fan of that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 10:37:18 PM
I can't even remember the last time I drove thru that intersection. It's a clusterfuck

if you are heading south from downtown on I-35 / SW trafficway, the only place you can turn left before the plaza is Mill St, and approximately 100% of people turning left continue through westport. it's the only connection to Broadway/Main street. there is absolutely no way it will be closed any more than it already is (late at night on the weekends, or during art shows/concerts/whatever)

At this point if the agreement is signed as stated in the MOU, there is no protections for the city of this.  There is no reason to allow westport businesses to just be given the ROW of these streets...none.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2017, 10:44:34 PM
http://www.pitch.com/music/news/article/20857908/tank-room-closing-making-way-for-expanded-green-lady-lounge

I do love the Green Lady. Hopefully the expansion works out for them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2017, 11:02:07 PM
I can't even remember the last time I drove thru that intersection. It's a clusterfuck

if you are heading south from downtown on I-35 / SW trafficway, the only place you can turn left before the plaza is Mill St, and approximately 100% of people turning left continue through westport. it's the only connection to Broadway/Main street. there is absolutely no way it will be closed any more than it already is (late at night on the weekends, or during art shows/concerts/whatever)

At this point if the agreement is signed as stated in the MOU, there is no protections for the city of this.  There is no reason to allow westport businesses to just be given the ROW of these streets...none.

They could still eminent domain it, but it would still be hard to reverse, and would cost more than it would be worth. IMO, that whole intersection anyways has been improving ever since they made it, and Mill st. 4 way stops. Also, I believe you can turn left on 43rd st when SW trafficway basically ends and bellleview begins, you just can't turn at all times, so yeah, not the best. They could actually make it to where you can actually take a damn left at 39th like a normal person, but that makes too much sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on April 13, 2017, 08:11:04 AM
What does vacate the intersection even mean?

this gives an overview of the "agreement"...basically the city doesn't control from 40th Street south Penn to archibald and on westport from Mill St to Broadway.  They can block off and charge a cover to the area (control all access to streets and sidewalks) as described in the list of events and whenever they want providing a week of notice to the city.

http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/liveweb/Documents/ViewAttachment.aspx?q=74yEKITkrbH2%2fhlYiEB%2bg5OG8tryyHTwTt4k9Xji5nDYdSmySIQ8ZK3vpG5lc4RB9%2bremW8csMuJs63G0b45jQ%3d%3d

Exhibit C lists the specific dates and events they want control of access.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on April 13, 2017, 08:24:40 AM
http://www.pitch.com/music/news/article/20857908/tank-room-closing-making-way-for-expanded-green-lady-lounge

I do love the Green Lady. Hopefully the expansion works out for them.

Quote
Tank Room owner Dustin Racen is opening a large bar and kitchen in the Ozarks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2017, 08:31:41 AM
What does vacate the intersection even mean?

this gives an overview of the "agreement"...basically the city doesn't control from 40th Street south Penn to archibald and on westport from Mill St to Broadway.  They can block off and charge a cover to the area (control all access to streets and sidewalks) as described in the list of events and whenever they want providing a week of notice to the city.

http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/liveweb/Documents/ViewAttachment.aspx?q=74yEKITkrbH2%2fhlYiEB%2bg5OG8tryyHTwTt4k9Xji5nDYdSmySIQ8ZK3vpG5lc4RB9%2bremW8csMuJs63G0b45jQ%3d%3d

Exhibit C lists the specific dates and events they want control of access.

Oh that's weird, looks exactly the same
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2017, 09:02:53 AM
I can't even remember the last time I drove thru that intersection. It's a clusterfuck

if you are heading south from downtown on I-35 / SW trafficway, the only place you can turn left before the plaza is Mill St, and approximately 100% of people turning left continue through westport. it's the only connection to Broadway/Main street. there is absolutely no way it will be closed any more than it already is (late at night on the weekends, or during art shows/concerts/whatever)

At this point if the agreement is signed as stated in the MOU, there is no protections for the city of this.  There is no reason to allow westport businesses to just be given the ROW of these streets...none.

They could still eminent domain it, but it would still be hard to reverse, and would cost more than it would be worth. IMO, that whole intersection anyways has been improving ever since they made it, and Mill st. 4 way stops. Also, I believe you can turn left on 43rd st when SW trafficway basically ends and bellleview begins, you just can't turn at all times, so yeah, not the best. They could actually make it to where you can actually take a damn left at 39th like a normal person, but that makes too much sense.

allowing southbound sw trafficway traffic to take a left on 39th street would be hilarious :lol:  thanks for the laughs, dave chappelle
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
I can't even remember the last time I drove thru that intersection. It's a clusterfuck

if you are heading south from downtown on I-35 / SW trafficway, the only place you can turn left before the plaza is Mill St, and approximately 100% of people turning left continue through westport. it's the only connection to Broadway/Main street. there is absolutely no way it will be closed any more than it already is (late at night on the weekends, or during art shows/concerts/whatever)

At this point if the agreement is signed as stated in the MOU, there is no protections for the city of this.  There is no reason to allow westport businesses to just be given the ROW of these streets...none.

They could still eminent domain it, but it would still be hard to reverse, and would cost more than it would be worth. IMO, that whole intersection anyways has been improving ever since they made it, and Mill st. 4 way stops. Also, I believe you can turn left on 43rd st when SW trafficway basically ends and bellleview begins, you just can't turn at all times, so yeah, not the best. They could actually make it to where you can actually take a damn left at 39th like a normal person, but that makes too much sense.

allowing southbound sw trafficway traffic to take a left on 39th street would be hilarious :lol:  thanks for the laughs, dave chappelle

yeah i thought so too  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 13, 2017, 09:14:04 AM
Summit St
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 09:22:07 AM
What does vacate the intersection even mean?

this gives an overview of the "agreement"...basically the city doesn't control from 40th Street south Penn to archibald and on westport from Mill St to Broadway.  They can block off and charge a cover to the area (control all access to streets and sidewalks) as described in the list of events and whenever they want providing a week of notice to the city.

http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/liveweb/Documents/ViewAttachment.aspx?q=74yEKITkrbH2%2fhlYiEB%2bg5OG8tryyHTwTt4k9Xji5nDYdSmySIQ8ZK3vpG5lc4RB9%2bremW8csMuJs63G0b45jQ%3d%3d

Exhibit C lists the specific dates and events they want control of access.

Oh that's weird, looks exactly the same

The MOU states they can also close the road whenever they want with notice. Even if it's just the same, explain why it's smart for the city to give this away to a private entity? It's a city asset being given away without any benefit to the city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2017, 09:23:25 AM
itt:

phil:  i never go there, but still  :runaway:

clams:   live in a toilet, get treated like crap :No pity:

cfbandyman:  what if i told you that you could turn left on 39th st?
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/155/594/yesitis2.gif?1311943181)


Abe: no no it's super easy you just turn right on 38th st, turn left on that little side street by missy B's, wait for the light to turn green, turn left on 39th in between the two stop lights, wait for 2nd light to turn green and your home free. simple  :jeffy:

mocat:  :zzz:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2017, 09:27:01 AM
There is some passion about this intersection vacation!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 09:37:07 AM
itt:

phil:  i never go there, but still  :runaway:

clams:   live in a toilet, get treated like crap :No pity:

cfbandyman:  what if i told you that you could turn left on 39th st?
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/155/594/yesitis2.gif?1311943181)


Abe: no no it's super easy you just turn right on 38th st, turn left on that little side street by missy B's, wait for the light to turn green, turn left on 39th in between the two stop lights, wait for 2nd light to turn green and your home free. simple  :jeffy:

mocat:  :zzz:

 :blindfold: is from bad public police not from the neighborhood involved. Help me see the other side MO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2017, 09:43:13 AM
Summit St

hilaro too.  39th backs up too far to turn left to head east there unless it's off traffic time and if that's the case just turn left off of SW tfwy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2017, 09:45:58 AM
looks like I'm smack dab in the middle of 39th st comedy hour  :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 13, 2017, 09:49:33 AM
That's fine, all on me  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 13, 2017, 09:49:55 AM
Summit St

hilaro too.  39th backs up too far to turn left to head east there unless it's off traffic time and if that's the case just turn left off of SW tfwy

Sorry, this was a joke to annoy mocat

My solution to this turning left pickle is get off on rough ridin' Broadway instead of sw tfwy you rough ridin' morons
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 09:51:26 AM
Summit St

hilaro too.  39th backs up too far to turn left to head east there unless it's off traffic time and if that's the case just turn left off of SW tfwy

When I used to drive from plaza to north everyday I loved sw tfwy being no turns but for the neighborhood sake and pedestrian accessibility....That road needs to slow down and turns being allowed would help accomplish that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 13, 2017, 09:53:06 AM
Summit St

hilaro too.  39th backs up too far to turn left to head east there unless it's off traffic time and if that's the case just turn left off of SW tfwy

When I used to drive from plaza to north everyday I loved sw tfwy being no turns but for the neighborhood sake and pedestrian accessibility....That road needs to slow down and turns being allowed would help accomplish that.

Yeah, if only there was a street 2 blocks over that accomplishes this. Sw tfwy has a purpose and it does it very well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 13, 2017, 09:54:05 AM
itt:

phil:  i never go there, but still  :runaway:

clams:   live in a toilet, get treated like crap :no pity:

cfbandyman:  what if i told you that you could turn left on 39th st?
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/155/594/yesitis2.gif?1311943181)


Abe: no no it's super easy you just turn right on 38th st, turn left on that little side street by missy B's, wait for the light to turn green, turn left on 39th in between the two stop lights, wait for 2nd light to turn green and your home free. simple  :jeffy:

mocat:  :zzz:

 :lol: yeah in hindsight last night's discussion was pretty dumb. Definitely on team "don't close the roads" now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
Summit St

hilaro too.  39th backs up too far to turn left to head east there unless it's off traffic time and if that's the case just turn left off of SW tfwy

When I used to drive from plaza to north everyday I loved sw tfwy being no turns but for the neighborhood sake and pedestrian accessibility....That road needs to slow down and turns being allowed would help accomplish that.

Yeah, if only there was a street 2 blocks over that accomplishes this. Sw tfwy has a purpose and it does it very well

It does a great job of disconnecting Westport from 39th Street neighborhoods.

I agree it is effective at moving traffic ....Guess it's all what your priority is...Id prefer the neighborhoods get first priority
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 13, 2017, 10:04:27 AM
There are still crosswalks...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 10:06:44 AM
Lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2017, 10:12:51 AM
Summit St

hilaro too.  39th backs up too far to turn left to head east there unless it's off traffic time and if that's the case just turn left off of SW tfwy

When I used to drive from plaza to north everyday I loved sw tfwy being no turns but for the neighborhood sake and pedestrian accessibility....That road needs to slow down and turns being allowed would help accomplish that.

none of that needs to happen.  it's a major artery and the flow should not be constricted.  you want to turn left on every block then move to leawood or something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 10:15:25 AM
Summit St

hilaro too.  39th backs up too far to turn left to head east there unless it's off traffic time and if that's the case just turn left off of SW tfwy

When I used to drive from plaza to north everyday I loved sw tfwy being no turns but for the neighborhood sake and pedestrian accessibility....That road needs to slow down and turns being allowed would help accomplish that.

none of that needs to happen.  it's a major artery and the flow should not be constricted.  you want to turn left on every block then move to leawood or something.

Nobody said that. Your post says turn left on 39th.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2017, 10:20:09 AM
when i suggested turning left on 39th, it was in the context of it being 4 am on a tuesday morning.  yes it's illegal but who cares.

you typed "that road needs to slow down and turns being allowed would help accomplish that"

i typed "none of that needs to happen"  because none of that needs to happen, ever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 10:22:31 AM
Move to leawood if all you want is cars driving as fast as possible to their strip mall destinations.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2017, 10:28:46 AM
SW trafficway is like a gem of midtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 10:31:53 AM
SW trafficway is like a gem of midtown

This is the most KC of things in the KC things thread.

I enjoy it when driving...Hate it when I think of moving around those neighborhoods or walking across it. Woof.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 10:33:53 AM
CF3! The more I thought about "In on Roanoke," the more I wondered the singer and his gf/wife lived on Roanoke. Sadly, I didn't really put that together when I was walking down Roanoke and made reference to the song.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 13, 2017, 10:37:53 AM
SW trafficway is like a gem of midtown

This is the most KC of things in the KC things thread.

I enjoy it when driving...Hate it when I think of moving around those neighborhoods or walking across it. Woof.

There is literally a crosswalk every 2 blocks from 29th to Westport Rd. You're being silly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
SW trafficway is like a gem of midtown

This is the most KC of things in the KC things thread.

I enjoy it when driving...Hate it when I think of moving around those neighborhoods or walking across it. Woof.

There is literally a crosswalk every 2 blocks from 29th to Westport Rd. You're being silly.

400 foot walk east on 32nd from karnes to get to the school? Lol j/k .3 mile walk ....KC walkability!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2017, 11:14:55 AM
SW trafficway is like a gem of midtown

This is the most KC of things in the KC things thread.

I enjoy it when driving...Hate it when I think of moving around those neighborhoods or walking across it. Woof.

good God
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2017, 11:20:24 AM
you guys, i just thought about moving/walking around the valentine neighborhood and got so darn flustered.  immediately i sprung into action and decided something needed to be done about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 11:23:43 AM
you guys, i just thought about moving/walking around the valentine neighborhood and got so darn flustered.  immediately i sprung into action and decided something needed to be done about it.

Just stay on your side of sw tfwy and you are fine.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2017, 11:25:16 AM
CF3! The more I thought about "In on Roanoke," the more I wondered the singer and his gf/wife lived on Roanoke. Sadly, I didn't really put that together when I was walking down Roanoke and made reference to the song.

I think he was rehabbing a house down there at some point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2017, 11:25:36 AM
i cross SWTW on foot/bike a lot, it's nbd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 11:29:45 AM
i cross SWTW on foot/bike a lot, it's nbd

I stand corrected. No problems. Glad it works.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2017, 11:33:02 AM
Paris of the Plains
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 13, 2017, 11:55:47 AM
Who knew turning left and preventing jaywalking w/ crosswalks was so controversial!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 11:59:09 AM
CF3! The more I thought about "In on Roanoke," the more I wondered the singer and his gf/wife lived on Roanoke. Sadly, I didn't really put that together when I was walking down Roanoke and made reference to the song.

I think he was rehabbing a house down there at some point.
Baller! Thanks for the info. Found where I put two bumper stickers at mom's this week. Not sure if the band's ever made it to KC though.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2017, 11:59:40 AM
you guys, i just thought about moving/walking around the valentine neighborhood and got so darn flustered.  immediately i sprung into action and decided something needed to be done about it.

Just stay on your side of sw tfwy and you are fine.   

we share the same side of sw tfwy  :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 11:59:45 AM
I take SW Trfkway whenever I visit my friend. That's cool right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
I'm going to something called Char Bar this Saturday. We all got baby sitters and crap and gonna get turnt up.

I went a couple weeks ago, and this place is really good. Solid BBQ for the restaurant variety (by that I mean order at your table) and a cool atmosphere, especially if its nice and the bar is opened up. Also some nice weekday drink specials.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on April 13, 2017, 02:35:44 PM
Summit St

hilaro too.  39th backs up too far to turn left to head east there unless it's off traffic time and if that's the case just turn left off of SW tfwy

When I used to drive from plaza to north everyday I loved sw tfwy being no turns but for the neighborhood sake and pedestrian accessibility....That road needs to slow down and turns being allowed would help accomplish that.

none of that needs to happen.  it's a major artery and the flow should not be constricted.  you want to turn left on every block then move to leawood or something.
old leawood maybe
Move to leawood if all you want is cars driving as fast as possible to their strip mall destinations.

This is South Leawood and the reason SUVs have 400 hp
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on April 13, 2017, 02:38:54 PM
you guys, i just thought about moving/walking around the valentine neighborhood and got so darn flustered.  immediately i sprung into action and decided something needed to be done about it.

Just stay on your side of sw tfwy and you are fine.
maybe the Roanokers like the barrier a non pedestrian friendly sw tfwy provides from westport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 24, 2017, 03:25:35 PM
Papa Keno's coming downtown!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 24, 2017, 03:31:50 PM
trying to break into a tough downtown pizza market could spell doom for kenos, where are they going to locate?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 24, 2017, 03:34:36 PM
18th and Wyandotte according the liquor permit application.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 24, 2017, 07:33:16 PM
what an odd choice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on April 24, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
Odd Thomas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 24, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
Rank the top 5 downtown pizza joints tia
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 24, 2017, 11:22:25 PM
No particular order... Depends on type of pizza I want

Grinders
I'll lazzarone
Caddy shack
Pizza Bella
Milwaukee deli
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 25, 2017, 05:29:20 AM
I've never been to caddy shack
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on April 25, 2017, 06:35:37 AM
I've never even seen a caddy shack.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 25, 2017, 06:57:56 AM
Another pizza place is opening or just opened in crossroads that I forgot about. Homeslice on Grand just south of 670. The off Willie's spot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 25, 2017, 07:17:26 AM
I've never been to caddy shack

Better than Minskys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 25, 2017, 08:10:29 AM
Caddy shack is very average. Milwaukee deli is probably my favorite.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 25, 2017, 08:43:12 AM
I've only had caddy shack like three times....It's unique and the sauce is way too sweet but I don't mind it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2017, 09:03:19 AM
Another pizza place is opening or just opened in crossroads that I forgot about. Homeslice on Grand just south of 670. The off Willie's spot
opened yesterday afternoon


pizza downtown that i consider good pizza and downtown includes r market and crossroads

grinders
pizza 51
art of pizza
caddyshack
il lazzorone
pizza bella
johnny's
minsky's
and the new dominos is pretty good

the pizza hut town pavilion can suck it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 25, 2017, 11:41:23 AM
That pizza hut is closed..The owner retired....But some off brand called chkn n pie is taking its place. They will have pizza according to the professionally done 9x11 paper logo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 25, 2017, 02:36:51 PM
Il laz and Milwaukee Deli are definitely my top two. I don't hate Minsky's like some people do but it is kinda overpriced. Got a Goldberg Phats from Grinders after playing soccer on Friday, it was great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 25, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
I dont see any reason kenos can't crush vag at 18th and dotte
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 25, 2017, 05:33:09 PM
Just picture walking around on First Fridays. Art of Pizza or Pizzabella sound good but oops too bad, their tiny dining rooms are jam packed and the host tells you 45 minute wait. You walk around the corner disappointed and all of a sudden BOOM giant Keno's in the old Snow and Co building with it's garage doors open welcoming you in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 25, 2017, 05:37:00 PM
I've never had a pizza in this city that's been like: "Whoa, game changer!" Have you? If so, please direct me accordingly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 25, 2017, 05:37:57 PM
I always dreamed Baltimore would become pizza alley with like every type of pizza on one block....Alas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 25, 2017, 05:45:34 PM
The chili sauce on the Hawaiian or whatever at minskys is pretty amaze
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2017, 05:57:06 PM
they're going to kill it on those 7 first fridays a year
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 25, 2017, 05:59:00 PM
I've never had a pizza in this city that's been like: "Whoa, game changer!" Have you? If so, please direct me accordingly.

Agree, pizza in kc is like a 3/7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 25, 2017, 06:45:24 PM
I've never had a pizza in this city that's been like: "Whoa, game changer!" Have you? If so, please direct me accordingly.

Agree, pizza in kc is like a 3/7

generous.  Intro of Pizza 51 and Il Lazz may be the only justification
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 25, 2017, 06:46:33 PM
they're going to kill it on those 7 first fridays a year

 :cyclist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 25, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
Just like the streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 25, 2017, 10:16:05 PM
KC pizza elites will take care of the other 358 days
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 25, 2017, 10:28:55 PM
SPIN!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 25, 2017, 10:37:03 PM
SPIN!

I do like that place...always forget they added a crown center locale
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 26, 2017, 08:38:02 AM
anyone been to Parkville Microbrew fest?  it's this Saturday, sounds fun, weather looks like it's gonna be shitty though, website says rain or shine, anyone been?  they have tents to atleast keep you out of the rain?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2017, 08:42:59 AM
No, but I was in Parkville last weekend for a nice round of mini golf with Mrs Wacky. Neat little area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2017, 09:43:11 AM
surprisingly enough, i've been to the parkville beer thing.  like most beer "fests", you stand in endless lines in an effort to be graced with a 2 ounce shot of beer that you can get at most any decent bar in town.  some people like this sort of thing.  personally, i think it's stupid as crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 26, 2017, 09:45:05 AM
They had their place when bars didn't have 100 taps. Now you can find those everywhere ....And you get to skip out on the bad food and horrible entertainment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2017, 09:54:50 AM
Some people just like to people watch and feel like they are part of something i guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2017, 09:57:05 AM
Isn't that what wal-mart is for?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2017, 09:58:43 AM
Nobody wants to feel like they are a part of walmart
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 26, 2017, 10:01:17 AM
has anybody else notices that basically every cool vacant building in the downtown CBD is under construction? 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 26, 2017, 10:01:59 AM
not getting a good vibe on this thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2017, 10:09:47 AM
Some people just like to people watch and feel like they are part of something i guess

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
Some people just like to people watch and feel like they are part of something i guess



I know
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2017, 10:18:23 AM
$35 for some companionship and camaraderie?  sign me up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2017, 10:19:43 AM
I'm a big time people watcher and I would never go near this thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 26, 2017, 10:24:01 AM
Beerfests were great in the mid 00s when a crap ton of breweries were just starting to distribute in KC. Nowadays it's like "Come drink Boulevard/Stone/Odell/Great Divide for the billionth time!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 26, 2017, 01:06:08 PM
@clams - I don't see the papa on your downtown pizza list.  this begs the question:  is that just a silly omission on your part, or is downtown lacking a papa?  If the latter, I think I finally have an idea for a business venture you and I could go in on together.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2017, 01:57:07 PM
I'm a big time people watcher and I would never go near this thing

I mean this is just my guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on April 26, 2017, 02:10:57 PM
maybe try getting out of your mom's basement you guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 26, 2017, 07:32:04 PM
surprisingly enough, i've been to the parkville beer thing.  like most beer "fests", you stand in endless lines in an effort to be graced with a 2 ounce shot of beer that you can get at most any decent bar in town.  some people like this sort of thing.  personally, i think it's stupid as crap.

Agreed. Beer fests 100% suck and I hate going. The last hour is just drunk assholes treating the vendors like crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 26, 2017, 08:53:31 PM
surprisingly enough, i've been to the parkville beer thing.  like most beer "fests", you stand in endless lines in an effort to be graced with a 2 ounce shot of beer that you can get at most any decent bar in town.  some people like this sort of thing.  personally, i think it's stupid as crap.

Agreed. Beer fests 100% suck and I hate going. The last hour is just drunk assholes treating the vendors like crap.

WHHATDAYA MEAN YOU'RRE OUT OF BEEEER?!?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 27, 2017, 02:47:26 PM
@pissclams @philtitola no comment on the 0 subsidies hotel being built in the crossroads? Disappointed...


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
I had fun at the only beerfest I've ever been to. it was ten years ago and on top of the parking garage inside legends. there was a brand new beer there from a tiny midwest startup named tallgrass.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kso_FAN on April 27, 2017, 02:59:20 PM
I had fun at the only beerfest I've ever been to. it was ten years ago and on top of the parking garage inside legends. there was a brand new beer there from a tiny midwest startup named tallgrass.

Hey, did you know that guy was on TOTT last week?

Good stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 27, 2017, 03:17:16 PM
@pissclams @philtitola no comment on the 0 subsidies hotel being built in the crossroads? Disappointed...


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Another surface lot bites the dust....Hard to keep up with all this winning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 28, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article147353814.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 10:45:06 AM
Can someone get a petition going that I get to vote on every road expansion in desolate areas of the city? Or a petition on petitions?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2017, 11:43:25 AM
i don't understand why anyone would be against allowing the city's voters voice to be heard on the project, unless of course they were afraid that the city's voters might reject the idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 28, 2017, 12:06:40 PM
the city's voters would overwhelmingly approve the project, but the mere act of delaying it for a vote may put the project at risk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 28, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
i don't understand why anyone would be against allowing the city's voters voice to be heard on the project, unless of course they were afraid that the city's voters might reject the idea

Kind of like voters in the TDD that approved the streetcar?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 12:20:32 PM
i don't understand why anyone would be against allowing the city's voters voice to be heard on the project, unless of course they were afraid that the city's voters might reject the idea

Because we have a representative democracy. I don't really want to vote on every road expansion approved by council. Nothing gets done if we ask every voter every decision the council has legality to decide on its own.  Petitions are great when used appropriately...but they are bring abused.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2017, 12:56:17 PM
the city's voters would overwhelmingly approve the project, but the mere act of delaying it for a vote may put the project at risk

if there's money to be made i'm sure someone else will come along
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2017, 12:56:52 PM
i don't understand why anyone would be against allowing the city's voters voice to be heard on the project, unless of course they were afraid that the city's voters might reject the idea

Kind of like voters in the TDD that approved the streetcar?

the city's voters didn't vote on the streetcar.  450 people did, but you knew that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
i don't understand why anyone would be against allowing the city's voters voice to be heard on the project, unless of course they were afraid that the city's voters might reject the idea

Because we have a representative democracy. I don't really want to vote on every road expansion approved by council. Nothing gets done if we ask every voter every decision the council has legality to decide on its own.  Petitions are great when used appropriately...but they are bring abused.

simple solution- don't vote on every road expansion if you don't want to.  no one is forcing you to.
what's being abused is the TDD process, that's it. 

i have no issue with the council and mayor running the city and fixing sidewalks and infrastructure.  when we're talking about major initiatives that will impact the main rough ridin' street of our city or 30+ year bond that will be around long after our council is no longer around, there's really no harm in bringing these larger issues to a public vote.  delay and possibly nix the project?  this development group is going no where, and if they do leave and there's money to be made, someone else will come and do the bait and switch hotel scheme. 

KCMO city government has proven itself over the last 100 years to be completely incompetent when it comes to making big decisions and that's why the petition clause is in our charter in the first place.  live by the sword, die by it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 01:06:36 PM
The hotel bond isn't backed by the city.  The streetcar was voted in through a state law method of funding transportation projects.

Further delays will cost the developers and city money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2017, 01:41:07 PM
The hotel bond isn't backed by the city.  The streetcar was voted in through a state law method of funding transportation projects.

Further delays will cost the developers and city money.

dang, i really thought i was going to change your mind.

regardless, due diligence doesn't cost money, making the wrong decision does.  i'd rather sleep comfortable at night abiding by the wishes of my neighbors and fellow residents of KCMO rather than those of a haggard group of ill equipped city council people.  there's a very good reason why those folks are in the public sector.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 01:45:35 PM
You want to rely on citizens that can't be bothered to educate themselves on real issues to know the finer details of the Hyatt plan. I admire your faith in your neighbors.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 28, 2017, 01:46:29 PM
i don't understand why anyone would be against allowing the city's voters voice to be heard on the project, unless of course they were afraid that the city's voters might reject the idea

Kind of like voters in the TDD that approved the streetcar?

the city's voters didn't vote on the streetcar.  450 people did, but you knew that.

Gotcha. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 28, 2017, 01:49:06 PM
The hotel bond isn't backed by the city.  The streetcar was voted in through a state law method of funding transportation projects.



clams doesn't really understand how these projects are financed and it's not terribly relevant to his position - which speaks volumes. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2017, 02:00:34 PM
Quote
“We’ve had several deadlines come and go,” Loar said. “That $35 million we’ve got committed, softly committed I guess, goes against our bond rating. If we’re asking our taxpayers for a tax increase by issuing bonds in April, I certainly want to make sure every dime that’s spent down here is spent with scrutiny and spent correctly and done right.”

:love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 02:15:14 PM
Quote
“We’ve had several deadlines come and go,” Loar said. “That $35 million we’ve got committed, softly committed I guess, goes against our bond rating. If we’re asking our taxpayers for a tax increase by issuing bonds in April, I certainly want to make sure every dime that’s spent down here is spent with scrutiny and spent correctly and done right.”

:love:

Funny...loar is fine spending hundreds of millions up north without any voter input. I'd love to hear how she thinks the money provided by the city on the project goes against our bond rating. That's idiotic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2017, 02:31:55 PM
Quote
“We’ve had several deadlines come and go,” Loar said. “That $35 million we’ve got committed, softly committed I guess, goes against our bond rating. If we’re asking our taxpayers for a tax increase by issuing bonds in April, I certainly want to make sure every dime that’s spent down here is spent with scrutiny and spent correctly and done right.”

:love:

Funny...loar is fine spending hundreds of millions up north without any voter input. I'd love to hear how she thinks the money provided by the city on the project goes against our bond rating. That's idiotic.

You want to rely on citizens that can't be bothered to educate themselves on real issues to know the finer details of the Hyatt plan. I admire your faith in your neighbors.

:love:


rather than those of a haggard group of ill equipped city council people.  there's a very good reason why those folks are in the public sector.

:love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 02:37:44 PM
I definitely agree that Loar fits the Haggard ill equiped label....luck for you I've been able to educate you on how some things you hate actually are being funded. Hopefully you've passed on that knowledge to ever neighbor who complained about taxes going to kci.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 28, 2017, 02:45:08 PM
complete stud JJ's guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xdtZ-ZksDc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 02:46:25 PM
I love him throwing his gloves off prior to getting money out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on April 28, 2017, 02:49:01 PM
JJ's guy irl was all like  :jerk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2017, 02:58:33 PM
well the idiot didn't rack the pistol correctly, there was no bullet in the chamber
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 03:01:11 PM
Yeah I wouldn't have noticed that when I gun is being pushed into my face. I'm not gun guy though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 28, 2017, 03:05:12 PM
the glove flip at the very end  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 28, 2017, 03:07:44 PM
thankfully i only frequent that jj's drive thru and not the inside.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Someone got robbed at gun point on the trolley trail this week in Waldo. I'm getting out of this dump in September. I run that damn thing about 4 days a week. I guess it's better than getting raped tho. Mini victories.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
Someone got robbed at gun point on the trolley trail this week in Waldo. I'm getting out of this dump in September. I run that damn thing about 4 days a week. I guess it's better than getting raped tho. Mini victories.

Back downtown!  We'll take you bud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2017, 05:31:09 PM
Someone got robbed at gun point on the trolley trail this week in Waldo. I'm getting out of this dump in September. I run that damn thing about 4 days a week. I guess it's better than getting raped tho. Mini victories.

Back downtown!  We'll take you bud.

He's coming to the burbs bud. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2017, 05:32:35 PM
I know  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 28, 2017, 06:50:16 PM
Yeah I wouldn't have noticed that when I gun is being pushed into my face. I'm not gun guy though.

Are you sure? It looks hella wonky.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2017, 07:36:02 PM
LAS 10 minutes curb to gate with bag check.....including a random double scan that took forever for someone to man the scanner (non precheck line going even faster)....KC and regional residents deserve so much better air service than kci provides.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 04, 2017, 08:52:47 PM
That's funny.  I always think LAS is a PITA.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 04, 2017, 10:08:46 PM
Here's a clue for you hayseed kc transplants:

1) it's a honkie ass cow town
2) waldo sucks
3) downtown is a train wreck
4) everywhere in missouri not called ward parkway or the plaza rough ridin' sucks
5) wyandotte county is gross
6) the airport is in iowa
7) you can get a really cool house for cheap but you have to paint it brown
8) joco has some of the best public schools in the world
9) awesome place to raise a family
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2017, 11:04:26 PM
That's funny.  I always think LAS is a PITA.

It's not the best but it kills kci in every single aspect.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 06:25:29 AM
Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2017, 07:48:55 AM
wtf
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article147192254.html

these people are so rough ridin' weird.  enjoy the party, phil/belvis.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 05, 2017, 08:28:14 AM
wtf
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article147192254.html

these people are so rough ridin' weird.  enjoy the party, phil/belvis.

great article - thanks for sharing.  Streetcar expects to mark its 2 millionth ride sometime just prior to May 6!!  can you believe it?! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 05, 2017, 08:31:18 AM
wtf
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article147192254.html

these people are so rough ridin' weird.  enjoy the party, phil/belvis.

great article - thanks for sharing.  Streetcar expects to mark its 2 millionth ride sometime just prior to May 6!!  can you believe it?! 

How many deaths?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 05, 2017, 08:32:55 AM
Also, get a load of this map of economic development in the downtown core.  WOW!!   :drool:

http://www.downtownkc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/DowntownKC-Streetcar-Development-map-Print.pdf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2017, 08:49:55 AM
wtf
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article147192254.html

these people are so rough ridin' weird.  enjoy the party, phil/belvis.

great article - thanks for sharing.  Streetcar expects to mark its 2 millionth ride sometime just prior to May 6!!  can you believe it?! 


should be a blast, bro- have fun! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 09:04:40 AM
I love cake
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2017, 09:21:13 AM
wtf
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article147192254.html

these people are so rough ridin' weird.  enjoy the party, phil/belvis.

Yeah it's pretty lame but good for fams to bring their rug rats I guess. I will not be attending.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 09:23:24 AM
cinco
FF
74 degrees

this is why there are breweries
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2017, 09:27:33 AM
I'm really second guessing my decision to run in the corporate challenge 5k tomorrow am...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 09:40:59 AM
corporate challenge 5k

gmafb with your uber hipster bullshit phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2017, 09:42:08 AM
crossroads will be raging tonight w ff + cdm but really cinco de mayo = st patty's day

the sunny weather is reason enough to face-off pak imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 10:03:12 AM
Big fan of cinco de mayo here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2017, 10:36:28 AM
I'm so corporate hipster
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 05, 2017, 12:38:14 PM
https://twitter.com/duffkc41/status/860537589241139200
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 05, 2017, 02:40:35 PM
 Dlew12, summer 17

:Wha:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 05, 2017, 06:47:30 PM
:cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 05, 2017, 06:51:26 PM
that took longer than expected
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 05, 2017, 07:13:46 PM
MDW and ORD were just too much to stomach.  I need to get back to a city with a real airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2017, 07:20:35 PM
haha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 05, 2017, 07:23:39 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 05, 2017, 07:29:09 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 08:40:19 PM
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Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 07, 2017, 11:25:04 PM
:Woot:

https://twitter.com/kcstreetcar/status/861336768741822465
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 08, 2017, 11:12:25 AM
Now you people's politicians are rough ridin' w/my stuff.  Sly James and Barnes w/supporting roles here: http://q13fox.com/2017/05/07/commentary-my-pitch-for-the-keyarena-location-if-i-worked-for-the-port-of-seattle/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 08, 2017, 02:18:22 PM
Guess all the Garth fans got hosed last night by the streetcar....streetcar said they would stay open an extra hour last night (till midnight) but ended up closing at normal time (11pm) due to some track maintenance.

Streetcar operations continues to learn in their first year that people are relying on their service ...and deliver what you say you are going to do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 08, 2017, 02:22:52 PM
Guess all the Garth fans got hosed last night by the streetcar....streetcar said they would stay open an extra hour last night (till midnight) but ended up closing at normal time (11pm) due to some track maintenance.

Streetcar operations continues to learn in their first year that people are relying on their service ...and deliver what you say you are going to do.

This is going to trigger 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 08, 2017, 02:36:21 PM
My biggest annoyance with streetcar operations so far is they don't always approach their operations with a mass transit mindset (understanding need to communicate out service changes / interruptions timely, etc) ...all learning process.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 08, 2017, 03:04:12 PM
Guess all the Garth fans got hosed last night by the streetcar....streetcar said they would stay open an extra hour last night (till midnight) but ended up closing at normal time (11pm) due to some track maintenance.

Streetcar operations continues to learn in their first year that people are relying on their service ...and deliver what you say you are going to do.
seems like they didn't have the desire
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 08, 2017, 03:35:17 PM
maybe the streetcar not showing was an unanswered prayer for some of those concert goers.
if tomorrow never comes, i'll feel bad for those concert goers who weren't able to ride the streetcar.
if the streetcar did come to get those concert goers it would sound like a storm sound when the thunder rolls.
rumor has it that the streetcar people were shameless in their actions of shutting service down an hour ealier than they said they would.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2017, 03:37:42 PM
Those concert goers ain't going down till the sun comes up anyway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 08, 2017, 03:59:31 PM
They didn't want to hang out with their friends in low places that normally take mass transit anyways
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on May 09, 2017, 09:44:32 PM
How expensive can it really be to expend the streetcar? The capital supporting assets are already in place. How uch does laying new track really cost? I wouldn't think that much compared to what we've dropped so far on it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2017, 10:14:17 PM
How expensive can it really be to expend the streetcar? The capital supporting assets are already in place. How uch does laying new track really cost? I wouldn't think that much compared to what we've dropped so far on it.

tell me more about the current capital supporting assets that will support a more than 2x expansion on top of its current role
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2017, 10:43:57 PM
How expensive can it really be to expend the streetcar? The capital supporting assets are already in place. How uch does laying new track really cost? I wouldn't think that much compared to what we've dropped so far on it.

Original budget was $102MM....that was 4.4 mile total of track. The expansion would add ~7 miles of track.  The maintenance facility cost $11.8MM.  I'm guessing we'll need another one of those.  Cars were $4.39MM per vehicle (bought 4).  We're close to buying 2 more and I'd assume we'll need to buy at least 4 more for expansion for a total of 10.  Stops were $640,000 per stop, guessing we'll have more stops in the expansion.  The current projected budget for the expansion is $227MM in 2019 dollars.

more here:
http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/FAQ_MainStreetExtension_071816.pdf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
if they do expand it, i really with they would consider alternatives to main street but i'm sure in typical sly james fashion he'll ram down our throats whatever he decides we need

also really not looking forward to more of those cars on the existing line further congesting traffic on main st
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 06:54:07 AM
What street should it be on instead of main st?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 10, 2017, 07:24:06 AM
Go vertical kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 07:36:57 AM
What street should it be on instead of main st?

SW trafficway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 08:46:19 AM
What street should it be on instead of main st?

are  you not familiar with midtown?
how about putting the POS somewhere that actually needs it?

since we've been told what a great boon to economic development these things are, seems to me that it would make the most sense to put the line in an area that needs public transportation and economic development. troost would be a perfect candidate for the line as the east side, which troost really doesn't even qualify as, desperately needs both.

main street is doing just fine without a streetcar, 99% commercial occupancy in the 20 blocks between 47th and 27th streets with continued redevelopment happening all the time.

if the mayor is scared of too many black people riding it on troost, then put it on gillham/rock hill since that actually goes where the purported need is (umkc and rockhurst)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 08:48:29 AM
you have to consider, though, that putting it where the black people live with dissuade people from driving  in from olathe to ride it and it would change from being a carnival attraction to a functioning piece of our city's infrastructure.  and that's the last thing anyone in KCMO government wants.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 10, 2017, 09:22:14 AM
clams makes a p good point
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 09:23:37 AM
Yeah, he should drop the mic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 10:00:24 AM
i would be all for a troostcar (just like there used to be) but i think you have to start with the densest part of the city and go from there. that's why leg #1 was in the loop/river market instead of Gillham between 27th and 39th (or whatever). the logical next step is main st. it's sort of the spine of what is and always will be the densest part of the city. until you have a streetcar that serves the plaza/westport districts, it doesn't make sense to put one elsewhere. troost has lots of potential for economic development, but there is no "district." The areas around Troost are mostly residential with actual Troost Ave having the businesses. This raises the question, is the streetcar A) a device to connect dense districts for tourists/shoppers/diners/etc, or is it B) a way for people to get to work? We all know which way it leans currently. I think it's an important question for any expansion. what is it trying to be? If its #1 goal is to spur economic development, well unfortunately you need derps from Eudora to ride it and become patrons of the businesses along its route (while admiring the authenticity of the new restaurant chains). If it's B, then there should be a streetcar on Troost AND Main, because a crap ton of people live in midtown, and both the Troost MAX and Main MAX are pretty crowded.
my gut feeling is you get just as much B with much more A if you put the streetcar on Main.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 10:01:54 AM
to some of your other points:

-main st is 99% commercially occupied between 27th & 47th?

-main st would not get any more congested, because at any individual stop there would still be a maximum of 1 streetcar every ~10 mins. and in midtown, there is already a bus only lane on Main st that the streetcar would use (Troost does not have this)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 10:12:19 AM
-main st is 99% commercially occupied between 27th & 47th?

sorry developer guy, no room in the Inn  :frown:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
-main st is 99% commercially occupied between 27th & 47th?

sorry developer guy, no room in the Inn  :frown:


(http://i66.tinypic.com/iwjhap.jpg)


let me help you, chode.  properties b/w 27th and 47th that are zoned as commercial are 99% occupied. 

to some of your other points:

-main st is 99% commercially occupied between 27th & 47th?

-main st would not get any more congested, because at any individual stop there would still be a maximum of 1 streetcar every ~10 mins. and in midtown, there is already a bus only lane on Main st that the streetcar would use (Troost does not have this)


you should add traffic engineer to your already long list of impressive accomplishments.  there is no full time bus only lane on main street.  so yes, reducing car traffic by 50% in both directions will increase congestion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 10:33:10 AM
let me help you, chode.  properties b/w 27th and 47th that are zoned as commercial are 99% occupied. 

do you agree that there is plenty of room for development on Main st between those streets?

you should add traffic engineer to your already long list of impressive accomplishments.  there is no full time bus only lane on main street.  so yes, reducing car traffic by 50% in both directions will increase congestion.

i mean, there is a bus lane on Main st clams. it's a 3 lane street both directions (not 2), and the far right is labeled "BUS LANE."

how on earth did you come up with a 50% reduction in both directions?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 10:38:29 AM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 10:39:36 AM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 10:43:43 AM
Troost was studied. It sadly doesn't have community support nor the taxing capacity to support this level of investment at this point. The troost max is helping.

Main has a lot of room for redevelopment and has plenty of capacity to be redesigned to fit streetcar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 10:45:54 AM
Quote
let me help you, chode.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 10:50:13 AM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 10:54:42 AM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic

do you think it would be easier for Main (3 lanes) or Troost (2 lanes) to handle a streetcar?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 10:55:24 AM
Main has a lot of room for redevelopment

i don't know it looks 99% full to me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 10:57:13 AM
The only negative of expansion to me is the time to get from downtown to the plaza would be like 45 minutes or something right? I'm not sure if you can truly connect the districts with ride times like that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 11:00:04 AM
The only negative of expansion to me is the time to get from downtown to the plaza would be like 45 minutes or something right? I'm not sure if you can truly connect the districts with ride times like that.

LOL no. i take the max regularly and it's nowhere near that. like maybe 20 mins
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 11:01:02 AM
we're getting pretty off-topic tho. clams said it should be on troost instead of main. it might take you 45 mins to get from downtown to the plaza via troost, if you had to walk from troost & cleaver
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 11:05:41 AM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic

do you think it would be easier for Main (3 lanes) or Troost (2 lanes) to handle a streetcar?

Hey traffic engineer, main is 6-7 lanes on the stretch we are talking about and troost appears to be 3-4 (with street parking on most of it)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 10, 2017, 11:06:33 AM
can you guys run some analysis on a Waldo to the K streetcar line
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 11:06:43 AM
 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 11:20:54 AM
can you guys run some analysis on a Waldo to the K streetcar line

Rock island commuter plan will be a round about way for you to get there....or more likely your kid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 11:23:21 AM
Zipline to the K imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 11:28:46 AM
Just build a tower in tower park and gondola that bitch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 10, 2017, 11:35:26 AM
Just build a tower in tower park and gondola that bitch

there already is a tower in tower park. that's where they got the name
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 11:37:20 AM
Halfway there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 10, 2017, 11:45:48 AM
I feel like light rail has been a colossal failure in all cities except for NY and Chicago (maybe SF too idk). 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 11:51:31 AM
I feel like light rail has been a colossal failure in all cities except for NY and Chicago (maybe SF too idk).

By what measure?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 11:53:38 AM
i am jealous of SLC's trax
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 11:54:00 AM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic

do you think it would be easier for Main (3 lanes) or Troost (2 lanes) to handle a streetcar?
troost, how is that not obvious to you?  oh i get it, because you're doing your best to support an indefensible position
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 11:56:00 AM
can you guys run some analysis on a Waldo to the K streetcar line

max from waldo to plaza, royals express from plaza to k, $7

oh nevermind, the KCATA, in their infinite wisdom, canned the royals/chiefs express about 5 years ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 11:57:03 AM
The only negative of expansion to me is the time to get from downtown to the plaza would be like 45 minutes or something right? I'm not sure if you can truly connect the districts with ride times like that.

LOL no. i take the max regularly and it's nowhere near that. like maybe 20 mins

hey traffic engineer, he's talking about on the street car.  oh what an exciting ride that would be.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 12:00:08 PM
Troost was studied. It sadly doesn't have community support nor the taxing capacity to support this level of investment at this point. The troost max is helping.

Main has a lot of room for redevelopment and has plenty of capacity to be redesigned to fit streetcar.

you're talking about redevelopment which is true about any place, anywhere.   there isn't a bunch of undeveloped lots b/w midtown and the 64112

hard to believe that the troost area residents said no to a $200M streetcar for free, really hard.  like, "hey don't develop our ghetto" type hard to believe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 12:02:10 PM
the troost residents must be those NIMBY types, eh?  i bet they disapproved of the $1B airport termy too, what clowns
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 10, 2017, 12:15:08 PM
I feel like light rail has been a colossal failure in all cities except for NY and Chicago (maybe SF too idk).

By what measure?

Ridership.  Let's take San Diego for example, they currently have 53.5 miles and are currently adding 11 more miles of track from downtown up to the UCSD area.  I literally do not know a single person that uses it, not just daily but like ever.  It's too time prohibitive.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 12:16:39 PM
Troost was studied. It sadly doesn't have community support nor the taxing capacity to support this level of investment at this point. The troost max is helping.

Main has a lot of room for redevelopment and has plenty of capacity to be redesigned to fit streetcar.

you're talking about redevelopment which is true about any place, anywhere.   there isn't a bunch of undeveloped lots b/w midtown and the 64112

hard to believe that the troost area residents said no to a $200M streetcar for free, really hard.  like, "hey don't develop our ghetto" type hard to believe.

These topics would be more productive if you #educated yourself on them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 12:18:08 PM
can you guys run some analysis on a Waldo to the K streetcar line

max from waldo to plaza, royals express from plaza to k, $7

oh nevermind, the KCATA, in their infinite wisdom, canned the royals/chiefs express about 5 years ago

Max to 47 bus. 1.50 each way. Royals express was killed due to W. Bush era rules on transit running special routes that may compete with private business.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 12:43:30 PM
can you guys run some analysis on a Waldo to the K streetcar line

max from waldo to plaza, royals express from plaza to k, $7

oh nevermind, the KCATA, in their infinite wisdom, canned the royals/chiefs express about 5 years ago

Max to 47 bus. 1.50 each way. Royals express was killed due to W. Bush era rules on transit running special routes that may compete with private business.

sure thing, except that had nothing to do it

"hey, the federal government said we can't run a bus to the stadium sorry guys!"

lulz

anyone that believes that probably works in the public sector
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2017, 12:43:45 PM
From a non-KC resident looking in seems like the SC has been a huge success so whatever the next planned route will probably have the same result
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on May 10, 2017, 12:55:41 PM
I feel like light rail has been a colossal failure in all cities except for NY and Chicago (maybe SF too idk).
I think St. Louis' train has been a success - folks I know that live in the "city" there tell me being able to walk to the a station adds to home value as that train actually goes to the airport and their all their stadiums are downtown.

my main experience with it was using it prior to 9/11as a ride to get something to eat on STL layovers and the first saturday in December, 1998.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 01:12:26 PM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic

do you think it would be easier for Main (3 lanes) or Troost (2 lanes) to handle a streetcar?
troost, how is that not obvious to you?  oh i get it, because you're doing your best to support an indefensible position

indefensible? you're being intellectually dishonest

"2>3" -clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 01:15:08 PM
From a non-KC resident looking in seems like the SC has been a huge success so whatever the next planned route will probably have the same result
Yeah, it's been great, for lazy asses who can't walk two miles.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 01:31:42 PM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic

do you think it would be easier for Main (3 lanes) or Troost (2 lanes) to handle a streetcar?
troost, how is that not obvious to you?  oh i get it, because you're doing your best to support an indefensible position

indefensible? you're being intellectually dishonest

"2>3" -clams

there's less traffic on troost which which would make it easier for the street to "handle the streetcar" to use your terms

it's insane that anyone would support handicapping the main corridor of our city by using the false pretense of "development" to deploy toy trains who move 100 feet at a time before loading/unloading olathe residents between CVS and UMKC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 01:33:05 PM
From a non-KC resident looking in seems like the SC has been a huge success so whatever the next planned route will probably have the same result

fortunately for people in the right, like myself, infrastructure projects' success isn't measured in months
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 01:33:58 PM
From a non-KC resident looking in seems like the SC has been a huge success so whatever the next planned route will probably have the same result
Yeah, it's been great, for lazy asses who can't walk two miles.

Like those gross elderly, people with kids, and handicap right wacky? Eff them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 10, 2017, 01:35:21 PM
I'm holding out for the Sni-a-bar streetcar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 01:36:43 PM
 :facepalm: They made it around just fine before this was created, dummy. This isn't a game changer for them for a 2 mile radius. Also, it's the farmers market, bar, bar, bar, strip club, bar, bar, bar, crown center. I don't believe much of the in between stuff applies to those ppl you're so "concerned about", Phil.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 01:40:03 PM
As always, wackycat08 brings the unique viewpoint
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 01:40:39 PM
Nothing I said was untrue.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2017, 01:41:47 PM
I've heard that before :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 01:42:37 PM
Shouldn't you be in the #1Thread? Also, why do you laugh at every post you make? :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 01:44:27 PM
:facepalm: They made it around just fine before this was created, dummy. This isn't a game changer for them for a 2 mile radius. Also, it's the farmers market, bar, bar, bar, strip club, bar, bar, bar, crown center. I don't believe much of the in between stuff applies to those ppl you're so "concerned about", Phil.

I don't understand the name calling but yes old people love bars and handicap people love strip clubs and families love the farmers market...they are people .

This is a starter line. You may have heard mention of expansion being voted on in this thread....and yes when that gets built...people can walk 5 miles too.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2017, 01:48:00 PM
I hadn't even read that yet and I called you a black hole of stupidity so idk why you think I wouldn't just say something like that if I thought it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 10, 2017, 01:48:15 PM
What is the distance that you are no longer considered lazy if you don't walk it? For me its 8 miles, 9 on nice days
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 01:50:06 PM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic

do you think it would be easier for Main (3 lanes) or Troost (2 lanes) to handle a streetcar?
troost, how is that not obvious to you?  oh i get it, because you're doing your best to support an indefensible position

indefensible? you're being intellectually dishonest

"2>3" -clams

there's less traffic on troost which which would make it easier for the street to "handle the streetcar" to use your terms

it's insane that anyone would support handicapping the main corridor of our city by using the false pretense of "development" to deploy toy trains who move 100 feet at a time before loading/unloading olathe residents between CVS and UMKC

why would the stops be any more frequent than the current MAX stops? idk where you are getting 100 feet.
you brought up congestion. there are parts of troost (the brand new stretch north of 27th) that it is only ONE lane N/S. my point is Main already has a bus lane each way, 2 "normal" lanes each way, plus <sometimes> a left turn lane. the only difference between right now and if there were a streetcar is people would not be allowed to park on Main. this would (if anything) help congestion, since there would not be any parked cars in the way of traffic, although iirc you can only park on Main nights/weekends, so rush hour would be unaffected. nobody drives in the bus lane during rush hour. canco because i ride the MAX to work currently.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
:facepalm: They made it around just fine before this was created, dummy. This isn't a game changer for them for a 2 mile radius. Also, it's the farmers market, bar, bar, bar, strip club, bar, bar, bar, crown center. I don't believe much of the in between stuff applies to those ppl you're so "concerned about", Phil.

I don't understand the name calling but yes old people love bars and handicap people love strip clubs and families love the farmers market...they are people .

This is a starter line. You may have heard mention of expansion being voted on in this thread....and yes when that gets built...people can walk 5 miles too.

But they are different than he is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 01:51:36 PM
What is the distance that you are no longer considered lazy if you don't walk it? For me its 8 miles, 9 on nice days

Only 7 miles for ol' wackycat08 to walk to work  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 01:51:45 PM
I hadn't even read that yet and I called you a black hole of stupidity so idk why you think I wouldn't just say something like that if I thought it.
I have no idea what you're trying to articulate here.

What is the distance that you are no longer considered lazy if you don't walk it? For me its 8 miles, 9 on nice days
Probably 2.3 miles. Either way, a $5 Uber takes you right to your next stop, without having to be in a herd of ppl stopping here and there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2017, 01:54:31 PM
I hadn't even read that yet and I called you a black hole of stupidity so idk why you think I wouldn't just say something like that if I thought it.
I have no idea what you're trying to articulate here.

I'll explain it, since you can't seem to keep up with your own stupidity.

You implied that I wrote that #1Thread post that was posted today, and have implied it numerous times, when in fact I had not.  I hadn't even read that post today until after you accused me of posting it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 01:55:44 PM
TBT, you've been super butthurt of all things WC08 for awhile now. It doesn't matter if you wrote that post or not, it's just a fact.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 01:56:23 PM
I'll note the name calling tho. Sad.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2017, 02:01:42 PM
TBT, you've been super butthurt of all things WC08 for awhile now. It doesn't matter if you wrote that post or not, it's just a fact.

You being a narcissist is the only fact here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
 :lol: WTF? Take it to the Pit weirdo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 02:02:16 PM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic

do you think it would be easier for Main (3 lanes) or Troost (2 lanes) to handle a streetcar?
troost, how is that not obvious to you?  oh i get it, because you're doing your best to support an indefensible position

indefensible? you're being intellectually dishonest

"2>3" -clams

there's less traffic on troost which which would make it easier for the street to "handle the streetcar" to use your terms

it's insane that anyone would support handicapping the main corridor of our city by using the false pretense of "development" to deploy toy trains who move 100 feet at a time before loading/unloading olathe residents between CVS and UMKC

why would the stops be any more frequent than the current MAX stops? idk where you are getting 100 feet.
you brought up congestion. there are parts of troost (the brand new stretch north of 27th) that it is only ONE lane N/S. my point is Main already has a bus lane each way, 2 "normal" lanes each way, plus <sometimes> a left turn lane. the only difference between right now and if there were a streetcar is people would not be allowed to park on Main. this would (if anything) help congestion, since there would not be any parked cars in the way of traffic, although iirc you can only park on Main nights/weekends, so rush hour would be unaffected. nobody drives in the bus lane during rush hour. canco because i ride the MAX to work currently.


sounds like you have it all figured out.  nothing to see here, my concerns have been squelched by g'E's resident traffic engineer
now that we have that one wrapped up, can we discuss what the reasoning is behind spending a quarter billion dollars shuttling peeps between Cash America Pawn and UMKC?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 02:05:36 PM
No answer will satisfy you. We get it. Did you apply for your ballot?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 02:07:07 PM
 :cool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2017, 02:08:27 PM
one thing i am curious about (Phil?) is where the Plaza stop would be located.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 02:13:17 PM
one thing i am curious about (Phil?) is where the Plaza stop would be located.

somewhere on the plaza that needs to spark development   :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
one thing i am curious about (Phil?) is where the Plaza stop would be located.

That's further down the planning schedule. We didn't know the general stop locations for the current line until a year after the votes.

My guess would be a stop would be by the tennis courts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 02:15:06 PM
anybody got a couple of hours to spare?  i don't feel like driving my car and really need to get from the plaza to river market.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 02:15:56 PM
one thing i am curious about (Phil?) is where the Plaza stop would be located.

That's further down the planning schedule. We didn't know the general stop locations for the current line until a year after the votes.

My guess would be a stop would be by the tennis courts.

imagine those poor souls having to walk from the tennis courts to umkc just to get to class  :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 02:17:46 PM
one thing i am curious about (Phil?) is where the Plaza stop would be located.

That's further down the planning schedule. We didn't know the general stop locations for the current line until a year after the votes.

My guess would be a stop would be by the tennis courts.

imagine those poor souls having to walk from the tennis courts to umkc just to get to class  :cry:
I just thought about that. What about the elderly ppl having to cross traffic to get to Capital Grille? :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 02:18:19 PM
43rd and 47th, then on Brookside to 55th umkc, would be my guess

(http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/160804-StreetcarMap-ExhibitB-CORRECTED-MAP-00225662.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 02:20:21 PM
one thing i am curious about (Phil?) is where the Plaza stop would be located.

That's further down the planning schedule. We didn't know the general stop locations for the current line until a year after the votes.

My guess would be a stop would be by the tennis courts.

imagine those poor souls having to walk from the tennis courts to umkc just to get to class  :cry:

There will likely b another stop south of brush Creek by the end of the line.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 02:21:35 PM
one thing i am curious about (Phil?) is where the Plaza stop would be located.

That's further down the planning schedule. We didn't know the general stop locations for the current line until a year after the votes.

My guess would be a stop would be by the tennis courts.

imagine those poor souls having to walk from the tennis courts to umkc just to get to class  :cry:
I just thought about that. What about the elderly ppl having to cross traffic to get to Capital Grille? :frown:

I'd love to talk more about better pedestrian experience.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 02:22:47 PM
one thing i am curious about (Phil?) is where the Plaza stop would be located.

That's further down the planning schedule. We didn't know the general stop locations for the current line until a year after the votes.

My guess would be a stop would be by the tennis courts.

imagine those poor souls having to walk from the tennis courts to umkc just to get to class  :cry:

There will likely b another stop south of brush Creek by the end of the line.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/mCId3zHmvi2JO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
anybody got a couple of hours to spare?  i don't feel like driving my car and really need to get from the plaza to river market.

A) not everyone has a car or wants a car (I rarely drive to the plaza)
B) the max now takes 30 minutes - streetcar would be faster
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 10, 2017, 02:39:28 PM
Lofl at not owning a car in kc (unless u don't have the means)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 02:43:57 PM
so many private details about the proposed expansion being uncovered here, sly would not  be happy with this level of transparency

and yeah, i can't imagine not wanting to own a car unless i didn't have legs and couldn't press the gas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 02:51:57 PM
I have a car and it moves maybe once a week. Probably less
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 02:55:59 PM
You also work downtown and live downtown. You're like the 1% of the KC population.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
You also work downtown and live downtown. You're like the 1% of the KC population.

I understand that. I also understand not everybody can afford a car and still more don't want to hassle with owning a car even if they have the means.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2017, 03:26:45 PM
SC talk always revitalizes this thread and it's much better than airport talk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
Wacky saying people can walk reminds me of him saying he drove to the gym from quality hill  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 04:00:56 PM
When I was in my car already coming home from work.  :dunno: It'd be like 5:50 PM by the time I got there. Didn't want to lose motivation. You bet your ass I walked everywhere on the weekends. Nice try tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 10, 2017, 04:03:21 PM
When I was in my car already coming home from work.  :dunno: It'd be like 5:50 PM by the time I got there. Didn't want to lose motivation. You bet your ass I walked everywhere on the weekends. Nice try tho.

I bet you didn't walk everywhere
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 04:06:03 PM
95% of the time I walked. It was thee biggest perk about living downtown. I'd drive to PAk with Clams during cat games and then Uber back. We even Uber'd to Chiefs/Royals games because it's cheaper, safer, and more convenient.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 04:07:37 PM
I literally had a run that went to the river market and then down to Penn Valley Park. It would be dumb to drive anywhere downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 10, 2017, 04:08:49 PM
When I was in my car already coming home from work.  :dunno: It'd be like 5:50 PM by the time I got there. Didn't want to lose motivation. You bet your ass I walked everywhere on the weekends. Nice try tho.

95% of the time I walked. It was thee biggest perk about living downtown. I'd drive to PAk with Clams during cat games and then Uber back. We even Uber'd to Chiefs/Royals games because it's cheaper, safer, and more convenient.


so you just lost the bet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 04:10:12 PM
I walked/ran to almost every spot where the SC goes now is the point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 04:12:13 PM
Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 10, 2017, 04:12:46 PM
I walked/ran to almost every spot where the SC goes now is the point.

(https://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i-w600/from-that-day-on-if-i-was-going-somewhere-i-was-running.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 04:13:39 PM
Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.
Love the bike share thing. That was fun. Especially going down to the bottoms.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2017, 04:57:34 PM
When I was in my car already coming home from work.  :dunno: It'd be like 5:50 PM by the time I got there. Didn't want to lose motivation. You bet your ass I walked everywhere on the weekends. Nice try tho.

95% of the time I walked. It was thee biggest perk about living downtown. I'd drive to PAk with Clams during cat games and then Uber back. We even Uber'd to Chiefs/Royals games because it's cheaper, safer, and more convenient.


so you just lost the bet.

Nothing I said was untrue.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 05:03:15 PM
 :facepalm:

That had nothing to do with cf3 and I's exchange. Take a lap, bro.

I walked/ran to almost every spot where the SC goes now is the point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 05:05:00 PM
:facepalm: They made it around just fine before this was created, dummy. This isn't a game changer for them for a 2 mile radius. Also, it's the farmers market, bar, bar, bar, strip club, bar, bar, bar, crown center. I don't believe much of the in between stuff applies to those ppl you're so "concerned about", Phil.
Plus my "nothing I said is untrue" comment was towards this! Maybe check out the mhk townie thread or something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
:facepalm: They made it around just fine before this was created, dummy. This isn't a game changer for them for a 2 mile radius. Also, it's the farmers market, bar, bar, bar, strip club, bar, bar, bar, crown center. I don't believe much of the in between stuff applies to those ppl you're so "concerned about", Phil.
Plus my "nothing I said is untrue" comment was towards this! Maybe check out the mhk townie thread or something.

Even the dummy part?  :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 05:21:57 PM
Yes, Phil, that was unkind of me. :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Yes, Phil, that was unkind of me. :cheers:

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 10, 2017, 05:56:52 PM
Greater KC's spread over too far of a geographic area and has too many governments for anything to work well.  It's too late to build meaningful public transportation.  Focus on building a time machine instead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
Greater KC's spread over too far of a geographic area and has too many governments for anything to work well.  It's too late to build meaningful public transportation.  Focus on building a time machine instead.

Goal will be as big as the region wants to buy into.  Right now the focus is on the area where their is density and the ability for those less dense areas to connect into with commuter rail as they desire.  That will begin the process of getting density back to the metro where transit can be meaningful again like it was in the 1950s....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 10, 2017, 06:19:12 PM
Focus on the time machine.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 06:19:51 PM
Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.

so disingenuous. if you gave a crap about people who can't afford their own transportation you wouldn't be Captain Streetcar KC.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 10, 2017, 06:36:48 PM
Phil, the urban real estate development in kc is a joke and it will be probably forever (especially during the meaningful part of your lifetime).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 06:53:35 PM
Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.

so disingenuous. if you gave a crap about people who can't afford their own transportation you wouldn't be Captain Streetcar KC.

streetcar isn't the only answer obviously Mr. drive or die.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 06:54:50 PM
Phil, the urban real estate development in kc is a joke and it will be probably forever (especially during the meaningful part of your lifetime).

I'm not in the real estate dev biz.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.

so disingenuous. if you gave a crap about people who can't afford their own transportation you wouldn't be Captain Streetcar KC.

streetcar isn't the only answer obviously Mr. drive or die.
it's not even a legitimate answer and the fact that you can't realize that speaks volumes as to how far up city hall's ass your head is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 10, 2017, 08:39:24 PM
Phil, the urban real estate development in kc is a joke and it will be probably forever (especially during the meaningful part of your lifetime).

Serious question - do you have stats to back that up?  I mean, compared to other mid-tier metros (STL, charlotte, Louisville, Portland. Nashville, etc) how do we compare?  Seems like downtown urban core is building a crap ton of multi-tenant developments right now.

http://www.downtownkc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/DowntownKC-Streetcar-Development-map-Print.pdf

According to this, there are about 22 residential developments (865mil) currently underway downtown. Maybe hayseed, but seems pretty decent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 09:13:23 PM
Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.

so disingenuous. if you gave a crap about people who can't afford their own transportation you wouldn't be Captain Streetcar KC.

streetcar isn't the only answer obviously Mr. drive or die.
it's not even a legitimate answer and the fact that you can't realize that speaks volumes as to how far up city hall's ass your head is

I've not once claimed it's the answer for mass transit in KC.  Let's not confuse gE'ing with WC about his "they should just walk" comment as serious policy statements.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 09:40:50 PM
Oh, I still think a SC "success" only covering 2 miles is laughable. I was just making a few examples. If you're driving up from Olathe to jump on that thing, then you're the joke. Explore downtown a bit. Leave the kids at crown center, take your lush ass up to the river market for a drink and Fresh veggies, come back and drive them home. This is not a game changer no matter what right now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2017, 09:45:33 PM
the streetcar is whatever the car's supporters tell you it is.  get on board or get out of the way, kc politics style in the '17.  i'm already crying jordan tears thinking about sly being term limited.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
Also, if you wanna play the tourist card, it's even more laughable. River market and downtown has a bit of a charm, but Crown Center is for kids. Just doesn't equate.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 09:48:28 PM
Oh, I still think a SC "success" only covering 2 miles is laughable. I was just making a few examples. If you're driving up from Olathe to jump on that thing, then you're the joke. Explore downtown a bit. Leave the kids at crown center, take your lush ass up to the river market for a drink and Fresh veggies, come back and drive them home. This is not a game changer no matter what right now.

I've stated the streetcar in it's current form is not a success to KC if this is all it ever is.  There is a reason it was labeled a starter line.  I think it's had a great year, has spurred development, and has been a "downtown" gamechanger at the level of the Sprint Center....but it won't be a success as is in my opinion.

In your research with transit system, what would you point to as a successful system we can strive to be?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 09:49:31 PM
Also, if you wanna play the tourist card, it's even more laughable. River market and downtown has a bit of a charm, but Crown Center is for kids. Just doesn't equate.

You are all over the place bud...not even sure the point you are trying to make or to whom.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
Brother in law gave me the speech last year that the SC wasn't for us, but for the tourist. I guess that was my last point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2017, 10:13:29 PM
Also, if you wanna play the tourist card, it's even more laughable. River market and downtown has a bit of a charm, but Crown Center is for kids. Just doesn't equate.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/SDxzM5LAVq5Tq/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
River market to Crown Center is not our main points in this city. How is that so hard to grasp?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2017, 10:35:51 PM
River market to Crown Center is not our main points in this city. How is that so hard to grasp?

What is?  :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2017, 10:43:30 PM
Not downtown. It just barely got a breath in 2005. "City of fountains", which I grew up with resides around the plaza. Downtown was for the Costinoes and defenbaugh to get rid of dead bodies before
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 11, 2017, 01:08:39 AM
Now you people's politicians are rough ridin' w/my stuff.  Sly James and Barnes w/supporting roles here: http://q13fox.com/2017/05/07/commentary-my-pitch-for-the-keyarena-location-if-i-worked-for-the-port-of-seattle/

During my research tonight, I see that not only did Sly blindly sign off on a letter with the exact same words that OVG wrote for the ex-mayor, he signed off on a letter recommending the competing bid too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2017, 06:33:23 AM
Not downtown. It just barely got a breath in 2005. "City of fountains", which I grew up with resides around the plaza. Downtown was for the Costinoes and defenbaugh to get rid of dead bodies before

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 11, 2017, 06:46:31 AM
Oh, I still think a SC "success" only covering 2 miles is laughable. I was just making a few examples. If you're driving up from Olathe to jump on that thing, then you're the joke. Explore downtown a bit. Leave the kids at crown center, take your lush ass up to the river market for a drink and Fresh veggies, come back and drive them home. This is not a game changer no matter what right now.

this is not a good idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2017, 08:21:18 AM
Not downtown. It just barely got a breath in 2005. "City of fountains", which I grew up with resides around the plaza. Downtown was for the Costinoes and defenbaugh to get rid of dead bodies before

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huh? speak boy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2017, 08:28:49 AM
What awesome things did you do downtown kc before PNL helped develop downtown, Chode?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2017, 09:49:29 AM
Dude.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2017, 09:55:15 AM
It's a legitimate question. I never went down there growing up (Eudora). We mainly did the mall, the plaza, and occasionally the west bottoms (the golden ox) every once and awhile.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
This conversation makes no sense.

Call me when this thread isn't just throwing out chode and dummy to everybody.  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2017, 11:01:07 AM
So downtown wasn't a shell of itself before 2005? You guys believe this? Sprint center, PNL, Kauffman center, Alamo drafthouse, SC, the restaurants that surrounded the growth, etc. WTF were guys doing down there before all of this?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on May 11, 2017, 12:03:28 PM
as I kid in the late 80s, early 90s I remember going down to a big new sporting goods store (Gart Brothers?) that had some kind of indoor snow skiing hill.  It didn't last but maybe a 2 or 3 years I think. 

The other thing I remember hearing about (and driving by) was the Old Chelsea porn theatre but I never went in. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 11, 2017, 12:26:50 PM
Ok, let's just all agree no one went downtown until 2005, what the eff does that have to do with the streetcar being a success or not?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2017, 12:47:02 PM
downtown has been the center of kansas city for about 140 of its roughly 170 years of existence
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2017, 01:09:32 PM
Yeah Mocat, if you wanted to watch cows get slaughtered.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 11, 2017, 01:49:08 PM
WC what would you consider to the be the boundaries of downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2017, 10:20:03 PM
Burns & Mac!  :drool:  :driving: <-flying  :thumbsup:  :Woot:  :Woohoo:  :cheers:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article150073187.html#storylink=mainstage
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
I feel like for a billion dollars we can reroute the mighty mo and make MKC's runways long enough
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 11, 2017, 11:32:00 PM
Good company
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 07:27:51 AM
sad but not surprised.  sly just refuses to listen to his constituents b/c he thinks his perspective is more valuable than ours. instead of taking no for an answer which we resoundingly told him, he's circumventing our "no" and costing the city more $$.  what a complete douche.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 07:45:13 AM
It's still going up for a vote.

When did "we" tell him resoundingly no clams?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 07:54:36 AM
It's still going up for a vote.

When did "we" tell him resoundingly no clams?

you know exactly when.  http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article75381617.html

and votes are expensive, right?  but he's willing to put it up for a vote since he's in favor of it. odd his/yours (same thing) stance on it.  why not just have the folks in the immediately vicinity of the airport be allowed to vote and only after requesting a special ballot???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 08:04:04 AM
Resoundingly saying no would be a vote that said no to me but whatever you need to fit your rants....how other it.

I honestly don't see why this needs a vote at all. The city wouldn't even issue bonds. Do we vote Everytime someone wants to build an office building?

Evenso...let the people vote on it given it is the airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2017, 08:14:08 AM
I feel like for a billion dollars we can reroute the mighty mo and make MKC's runways long enough

like, sorry Fairfax plant nobody drives GM cars anymore and we need to land 747s right there.

2nd bonus: the airport would be partially in the dotte and they are super loaded rn and would help pay for it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 08:26:35 AM
I feel like for a billion dollars we can reroute the mighty mo and make MKC's runways long enough

like, sorry Fairfax plant nobody drives GM cars anymore and we need to land 747s right there.

2nd bonus: the airport would be partially in the dotte and they are super loaded rn and would help pay for it.

That was one of the original plans....and would be awesome....and isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 08:35:26 AM
Resoundingly saying no would be a vote that said no to me but whatever you need to fit your rants....how other it.

I honestly don't see why this needs a vote at all. The city wouldn't even issue bonds. Do we vote Everytime someone wants to build an office building?

Evenso...let the people vote on it given it is the airport.

resoundingly saying no is resoundingly saying no.  which is what your boy understood when he took his ball and went home (after researching if TDD's applied to airport votes and finding out that they didn't).

regardless, it's sad to see you back this B&D plan considering how much more it's going to cost the city.  sad. 

what could go wrong when not competitive bidding a billion dollar project?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 12, 2017, 08:36:27 AM
Resoundingly saying no would be a vote that said no to me but whatever you need to fit your rants....how other it.

I honestly don't see why this needs a vote at all. The city wouldn't even issue bonds. Do we vote Everytime someone wants to build an office building?

Evenso...let the people vote on it given it is the airport.

Ultimately people that fly out of the airport are paying for it, so they should vote on it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 08:36:51 AM
dan coffey will make the mayor's office great again in 2019
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 08:37:42 AM
Resoundingly saying no would be a vote that said no to me but whatever you need to fit your rants....how other it.

I honestly don't see why this needs a vote at all. The city wouldn't even issue bonds. Do we vote Everytime someone wants to build an office building?

Evenso...let the people vote on it given it is the airport.

Ultimately people that fly out of the airport are paying for it, so they should vote on it.

agreed.  similar to the streetcar.  let's open this vote up nationwide, i'm game.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 12, 2017, 08:40:22 AM
rough ridin' airport talk again.  :shooturmouth:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 08:41:19 AM
Resoundingly saying no would be a vote that said no to me but whatever you need to fit your rants....how other it.

I honestly don't see why this needs a vote at all. The city wouldn't even issue bonds. Do we vote Everytime someone wants to build an office building?

Evenso...let the people vote on it given it is the airport.

resoundingly saying no is resoundingly saying no.  which is what your boy understood when he took his ball and went home (after researching if TDD's applied to airport votes and finding out that they didn't).

regardless, it's sad to see you back this B&D plan considering how much more it's going to cost the city.  sad. 

what could go wrong when not competitive bidding a billion dollar project?

In this scenario the city doesn't originate the bonds or have any piece of the financing....what exactly do you want bid?  Maybe slow down and see what the deal is before you go crazy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 08:42:01 AM
dan coffey will make the mayor's office great again in 2019

Dan made this happen...you say it costs more....grats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 08:46:32 AM
Resoundingly saying no would be a vote that said no to me but whatever you need to fit your rants....how other it.

I honestly don't see why this needs a vote at all. The city wouldn't even issue bonds. Do we vote Everytime someone wants to build an office building?

Evenso...let the people vote on it given it is the airport.

resoundingly saying no is resoundingly saying no.  which is what your boy understood when he took his ball and went home (after researching if TDD's applied to airport votes and finding out that they didn't).

regardless, it's sad to see you back this B&D plan considering how much more it's going to cost the city.  sad. 

what could go wrong when not competitive bidding a billion dollar project?

In this scenario the city doesn't originate the bonds or have any piece of the financing....what exactly do you want bid?  Maybe slow down and see what the deal is before you go crazy.

no crap, at the very least a portion of the work should be bid out or some other cost control measures need to be put in place.  you realize we're the one's paying this back, right? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 08:47:49 AM
dan coffey will make the mayor's office great again in 2019

Dan made this happen...you say it costs more....grats

who could ever oppose citizens for responsible government other than supporters of irresponsible government (sly james)?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2017, 08:48:22 AM
why do you hate when stuff gets done so much?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 08:49:06 AM
rough ridin' airport talk again.  :shooturmouth:

wacky, it's a great day!  not only does sly titola get his new airport, it's going to cost YOU more money!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 08:50:42 AM
Resoundingly saying no would be a vote that said no to me but whatever you need to fit your rants....how other it.

I honestly don't see why this needs a vote at all. The city wouldn't even issue bonds. Do we vote Everytime someone wants to build an office building?

Evenso...let the people vote on it given it is the airport.

resoundingly saying no is resoundingly saying no.  which is what your boy understood when he took his ball and went home (after researching if TDD's applied to airport votes and finding out that they didn't).

regardless, it's sad to see you back this B&D plan considering how much more it's going to cost the city.  sad. 

what could go wrong when not competitive bidding a billion dollar project?

In this scenario the city doesn't originate the bonds or have any piece of the financing....what exactly do you want bid?  Maybe slow down and see what the deal is before you go crazy.

no crap, at the very least a portion of the work should be bid out or some other cost control measures need to be put in place.  you realize we're the one's paying this back, right?

Why don't you break down this financing plan for everybody clams so we can all discuss with the same level of understanding.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 08:51:28 AM
why do you hate when stuff gets done so much?

i love things getting done

did you read the article where the city said that the streetcar has brought $2B into the crossroads area?  wow!  and i believe that!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 08:52:31 AM
dan coffey will make the mayor's office great again in 2019

Dan made this happen...you say it costs more....grats

who could ever oppose citizens for responsible government other than supporters of irresponsible government (sly james)?

I only support the "American, fug yeah, freedom and responsible government Patriot act with guns" group
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 12, 2017, 09:06:25 AM
rough ridin' airport talk again.  :shooturmouth:

wacky, it's a great day!  not only does sly titola get his new airport, it's going to cost YOU more money!
:bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 09:06:25 AM
Burns & Mac!  :drool:  :driving: <-flying  :thumbsup:  :Woot:  :Woohoo:  :cheers:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article150073187.html#storylink=mainstage

I had to keep my mouth shut on this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2017, 09:16:39 AM
Bmd would handle the competitive bidding part themselves. Only the design phase would be not bid, but I think that's very fair given they are financing the thing. Bmd is still a business, and they will have outside investors to answer to as well.

The best part of this is 'clams has repeatedly held that businesses don't want a new airport, but here is a local company that wants one bad enough to spend a billion of their own money  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 12, 2017, 09:19:19 AM
Dems love spending tax payers $ on dumb crap  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2017, 09:20:54 AM
Dems love spending tax payers $ on dumb crap  :frown:

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
 I could see the speed to finance and build will negate private financing premium. The tradition route would have use building this in 2023 money...this option can be done years faster.

But let's not get too deep into financing before clams educates us all on how it will all work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2017, 09:24:51 AM
Dems love spending tax payers $ on dumb crap  :frown:

taxes are not, and have never been, a part of the airport financing.

the resistance to the new airport is based on people assuming airfares will go up.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 12, 2017, 09:30:21 AM
Dems love spending tax payers $ on dumb crap  :frown:

Every trip to Mar-A-Lago is paid for with tax payer money from a Republican president.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 12, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
Random
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 12, 2017, 09:35:33 AM
Yes your statement was random.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 09:36:29 AM
Bmd would handle the competitive bidding part themselves. Only the design phase would be not bid, but I think that's very fair given they are financing the thing. Bmd is still a business, and they will have outside investors to answer to as well.

The best part of this is 'clams has repeatedly held that businesses don't want a new airport, but here is a local company that wants one bad enough to spend a billion of their own money  :lol:

yep, here's a local company who will make hundreds of millions of dollars from the project, supporting it.  it's so insane!  sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 12, 2017, 09:37:08 AM
Don't eff this thread up with your little dick syndrome, TBT. Take it to the pit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 12, 2017, 09:38:18 AM
The person who first made a political statement is telling me to not eff up this thread :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 09:38:34 AM
Bmd would handle the competitive bidding part themselves. Only the design phase would be not bid, but I think that's very fair given they are financing the thing. Bmd is still a business, and they will have outside investors to answer to as well.

The best part of this is 'clams has repeatedly held that businesses don't want a new airport, but here is a local company that wants one bad enough to spend a billion of their own money  :lol:

yep, here's a local company who will make hundreds of millions of dollars from the project, supporting it.  it's so insane!  sad.

Local business making money....we don't want that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 12, 2017, 09:38:39 AM
I'm done but man, this is just too good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 09:50:52 AM
Bmd would handle the competitive bidding part themselves. Only the design phase would be not bid, but I think that's very fair given they are financing the thing. Bmd is still a business, and they will have outside investors to answer to as well.

The best part of this is 'clams has repeatedly held that businesses don't want a new airport, but here is a local company that wants one bad enough to spend a billion of their own money  :lol:

yep, here's a local company who will make hundreds of millions of dollars from the project, supporting it.  it's so insane!  sad.

Local business making money....we don't want that.

kinda weird that you would take that stance but you never cease to amaze us, sly titola.  sad...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 09:55:42 AM
Still waiting on you to explain the financing so we can discuss ....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 12, 2017, 10:13:33 AM
Bmd would handle the competitive bidding part themselves. Only the design phase would be not bid, but I think that's very fair given they are financing the thing. Bmd is still a business, and they will have outside investors to answer to as well.

The best part of this is 'clams has repeatedly held that businesses don't want a new airport, but here is a local company that wants one bad enough to spend a billion of their own money  :lol:

yep, here's a local company who will make hundreds of millions of dollars from the project, supporting it.  it's so insane!  sad.

They will absolutely not make hundreds of millions from this project.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 11:01:04 AM
Dems love spending tax payers $ on dumb crap  :frown:

taxes are not, and have never been, a part of the airport financing.

the resistance to the new airport is based on people assuming airfares will go up being clueless. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 11:02:52 AM
We need some more of those non-profit architecture/engineering firms in KCMO.  Think of how much cheaper all of our local projects would be!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 11:06:53 AM
Bmd would handle the competitive bidding part themselves. Only the design phase would be not bid, but I think that's very fair given they are financing the thing. Bmd is still a business, and they will have outside investors to answer to as well.

The best part of this is 'clams has repeatedly held that businesses don't want a new airport, but here is a local company that wants one bad enough to spend a billion of their own money  :lol:

yep, here's a local company who will make hundreds of millions of dollars from the project, supporting it.  it's so insane!  sad.

They will absolutely not make hundreds of millions from this project.

what's their margin on their work?  15%?  how much are they making on the financing? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 11:08:28 AM
We need some more of those non-profit architecture/engineering firms in KCMO.  Think of how much cheaper all of our local projects would be!

having such a narrowly focused perspective must be such a simple way to go through life, congrats!  sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 12, 2017, 11:18:54 AM
Burns and Mac is not a non-profit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 11:19:14 AM
We need some more of those non-profit architecture/engineering firms in KCMO.  Think of how much cheaper all of our local projects would be!

having such a narrowly focused perspective must be such a simple way to go through life, congrats!  sad.

I know right?  :cheers: 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 12:05:23 PM
 :Lurk:

So from what I've heard and read this seems to be pretty shady of an arrangement. The whole thing was decided in a couple weeks of behind-closed-door meetings with only specific city leaders and it is apparently already a done deal?

This is going to cause a crap-storm of PR issues for the city that largely could have been avoided had they told Burns & Mac, "Great idea! Now let's compare it to what other teams can propose and put forward and ultimately decide based on a fair, official, and open process". But no... Railroading it through is a far superior tactic  :bang:

Not to sound like a broken record but one reason this all is very fishy is that Burns & Mac has donated thousands to Mayor James and others within the City and have been awarded millions in tax breaks (TIFS) and public dollars in work over the years... Just another reason for campaign finance and ethics reforms.

 :th_twocents:

http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell (http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
:Lurk:

So from what I've heard and read this seems to be pretty shady of an arrangement. The whole thing was decided in a couple weeks of behind-closed-door meetings with only specific city leaders and it is apparently already a done deal?

This is going to cause a crap-storm of PR issues for the city that largely could have been avoided had they told Burns & Mac, "Great idea! Now let's compare it to what other teams can propose and put forward and ultimately decide based on a fair, official, and open process". But no... Railroading it through is a far superior tactic  :bang:

Not to sound like a broken record but one reason this all is very fishy is that Burns & Mac has donated thousands to Mayor James and others within the City and have been awarded millions in tax breaks (TIFS) and public dollars in work over the years... Just another reason for campaign finance and ethics reforms.

 :th_twocents:

http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell (http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell)

uh oh, cam...sly titola and troy "belvis" schulte just put your name on a list in city hall.  sad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 12, 2017, 12:15:30 PM
How is it a done deal?  Isnt there going to be a vote?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 12:27:36 PM
How is it a done deal?  Isnt there going to be a vote?

They are presenting it as if the finance, design team selection and construction delivery are all a done deal... They will still have to clear the hurdle of a council vote and probably a public vote. Neither of which are easy given the backlash this is likely to cause. But those are really just a go-no go on whether the project moves forward.

What's really sad is that it didn't need to be this way and is only going to make its success even harder.

Don't get me wrong, I def want a new airport... Just not at any cost and not like this.  :shakesfist:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 12:28:20 PM
:Lurk:

So from what I've heard and read this seems to be pretty shady of an arrangement. The whole thing was decided in a couple weeks of behind-closed-door meetings with only specific city leaders and it is apparently already a done deal?

This is going to cause a crap-storm of PR issues for the city that largely could have been avoided had they told Burns & Mac, "Great idea! Now let's compare it to what other teams can propose and put forward and ultimately decide based on a fair, official, and open process". But no... Railroading it through is a far superior tactic  :bang:

Not to sound like a broken record but one reason this all is very fishy is that Burns & Mac has donated thousands to Mayor James and others within the City and have been awarded millions in tax breaks (TIFS) and public dollars in work over the years... Just another reason for campaign finance and ethics reforms.

 :th_twocents:

http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell (http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell)

Lid. Blown. Off!!  Can you believe it!?  One of Kansas City's largest employers sought tax credits to help finance a $100mil development in KCMO.  I'm shocked and appalled.  Burns & McDonnell HQ - more like the Death Star amiright?

And, you mean to tell me B&M donated $3,500 to Sly James' mayoral campaign 5 years ago!?  Holy crap.   

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 12:30:24 PM
So not at all a done deal. I still have many questions on this thing and I think the traditional funding option may be a superior one....but numbskulls keep pushing this false narrative about visiting taxpayers money...hence options like this happen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 12:30:44 PM
:Lurk:

So from what I've heard and read this seems to be pretty shady of an arrangement. The whole thing was decided in a couple weeks of behind-closed-door meetings with only specific city leaders and it is apparently already a done deal?

This is going to cause a crap-storm of PR issues for the city that largely could have been avoided had they told Burns & Mac, "Great idea! Now let's compare it to what other teams can propose and put forward and ultimately decide based on a fair, official, and open process". But no... Railroading it through is a far superior tactic  :bang:

Not to sound like a broken record but one reason this all is very fishy is that Burns & Mac has donated thousands to Mayor James and others within the City and have been awarded millions in tax breaks (TIFS) and public dollars in work over the years... Just another reason for campaign finance and ethics reforms.

 :th_twocents:

http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell (http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell)

Lid. Blown. Off!!  Can you believe it!?  One of Kansas City's largest employers sought tax credits to help finance a $100mil development in KCMO.  I'm shocked and appalled.  Burns & McDonnell HQ - more like the Death Star amiright?

And, you mean to tell me B&M donated $3,500 to Sly James' mayoral campaign 5 years ago!?  Holy crap.   

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2017, 12:34:55 PM
Good grief cam :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 12:35:40 PM
:Lurk:

So from what I've heard and read this seems to be pretty shady of an arrangement. The whole thing was decided in a couple weeks of behind-closed-door meetings with only specific city leaders and it is apparently already a done deal?

This is going to cause a crap-storm of PR issues for the city that largely could have been avoided had they told Burns & Mac, "Great idea! Now let's compare it to what other teams can propose and put forward and ultimately decide based on a fair, official, and open process". But no... Railroading it through is a far superior tactic  :bang:

Not to sound like a broken record but one reason this all is very fishy is that Burns & Mac has donated thousands to Mayor James and others within the City and have been awarded millions in tax breaks (TIFS) and public dollars in work over the years... Just another reason for campaign finance and ethics reforms.

 :th_twocents:

http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell (http://www.pitch.com/news/article/20565248/can-anyone-say-no-to-burns-mcdonnell)

Lid. Blown. Off!!  Can you believe it!?  One of Kansas City's largest employers sought tax credits to help finance a $100mil development in KCMO.  I'm shocked and appalled.  Burns & McDonnell HQ - more like the Death Star amiright?

And, you mean to tell me B&M donated $3,500 to Sly James' mayoral campaign 5 years ago!?  Holy crap.   

From the article... "263 Burns & McDonnell employees made contributions to James' 2015 re-election effort. Most of the donors lived outside Kansas City."... "But for what Burns & McDonnell gives, it also receives. Since moving its headquarters to 9400 Ward Parkway in 1996, the firm has received $58.9 million in tax credits and incentive programs from the state of Missouri"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 12:37:36 PM
How is it a done deal?  Isnt there going to be a vote?

They are presenting it as if the finance, design team selection and construction delivery are all a done deal... They will still have to clear the hurdle of a council vote and probably a public vote. Neither of which are easy given the backlash this is likely to cause. But those are really just a go-no go on whether the project moves forward.

What's really sad is that it didn't need to be this way and is only going to make its success even harder.

Don't get me wrong, I def want a new airport... Just not at any cost and not like this.  :shakesfist:

first, no, nobody has presented this as a done deal.  from the KC Star Article published yesterday,

"However, even if the city proceeds with this private financing option, James said, it still would have an election in November. The ballot would ask the voters to sign off on this new terminal construction plan. That vote would happen because the City Council promised a vote in response to a 2014 citizens petition requiring a public election on any major KCI improvements.  If voters say no, James acknowledged, 'we’re screwed.'"

On the bidding process - I'm sure the City would be all ears if another engineer/architecture firm wanted to pony up and buy the risk. 

On the cost - it won't be financed by or backed by the city and taxpayers won't be on the hook for overruns.  The project will be financed by the airlines and by fees assessed on passenger tickets at KCI over the next few decades.  Thus, as is the case in both privately and municipally financed airports, these fees will be assessed in the neighborhood of a few dollars per passenger ticket.  This is the cost.  This is what we're dealing with here. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 12:43:40 PM

From the article... "263 Burns & McDonnell employees made contributions to James' 2015 re-election effort. Most of the donors lived outside Kansas City."... "But for what Burns & McDonnell gives, it also receives. Since moving its headquarters to 9400 Ward Parkway in 1996, the firm has received $58.9 million in tax credits and incentive programs from the state of Missouri"

Dude.  seriously.  you're implying B&M bought this prospective airport contract through a $3,500 campaign donation made 5 years ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 12:45:25 PM
How is it a done deal?  Isnt there going to be a vote?

They are presenting it as if the finance, design team selection and construction delivery are all a done deal... They will still have to clear the hurdle of a council vote and probably a public vote. Neither of which are easy given the backlash this is likely to cause. But those are really just a go-no go on whether the project moves forward.

What's really sad is that it didn't need to be this way and is only going to make its success even harder.

Don't get me wrong, I def want a new airport... Just not at any cost and not like this.  :shakesfist:

On the bidding process - I'm sure the City would be all ears if another engineer/architecture firm wanted to pony up and buy the risk. 


So then why not send out a public RFP, why not announce it separately from Burns & Mac, why not be up-front and transparent with their discussions? Sure seems pretty slimy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 12:47:08 PM

From the article... "263 Burns & McDonnell employees made contributions to James' 2015 re-election effort. Most of the donors lived outside Kansas City."... "But for what Burns & McDonnell gives, it also receives. Since moving its headquarters to 9400 Ward Parkway in 1996, the firm has received $58.9 million in tax credits and incentive programs from the state of Missouri"

Dude.  seriously.  you're implying B&M bought this prospective airport contract through a $3,500 campaign donation made 5 years ago?

The article was from 3 years ago, I'm sure there have been plenty of additional donations since... and no, not solely. But it doesn't inspire trust or reflect transparency to have presented and announced this all in the way they have.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 12:54:17 PM
of course the original funding option is better because it's cheaper and it allows for a competitive bidding process.  it's not better for lying sly james tho because it would get voted down.
sorry, lying sly!  sad   :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 12, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
You need to workshop the lying sly. It just doesn't flow off the tongue ya know.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 12, 2017, 12:59:44 PM
Cam, BM isn't some sleazy, conniving company trying to bilk the kc community out of money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 01:03:21 PM
Cam, BM isn't some sleazy, conniving company trying to bilk the kc community out of money.

Interesting, if true...

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2017/05/12/kci-burns-mcdonnell-single-terminal.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2017/05/12/kci-burns-mcdonnell-single-terminal.html)

"Burns & McDonnell’s proposal to finance and build a $1 billion modernization project at Kansas City International Airport through a public-private partnership lacks one of the hallmarks of increasingly popular public-private partnerships: competition."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 01:04:27 PM
of course the original funding option is better because it's cheaper and it allows for a competitive bidding process.  it's not better for lying sly james tho because it would get voted down.
sorry, lying sly!  sad   :cry:

I thought you didn't like the original funding plan (although I'm not convinced you understand how projects like these are actually funded) because the City would have to issue debt, thus subjecting taxpayers to risk. 

But, because it's the plan more likely to be rejected, you now prefer the original funding plan? 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 12, 2017, 01:05:00 PM
Relax. I'm sure they will cut KC a sweet deal in this no bid job.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 01:06:30 PM
Helpful hint, just read how the deal went down with our new building and you'll get how this will go down. It's not that hard people.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 01:07:31 PM
of course the original funding option is better because it's cheaper and it allows for a competitive bidding process.  it's not better for lying sly james tho because it would get voted down.
sorry, lying sly!  sad   :cry:

It's not necessarily cheaper considering the time difference in funding. Interest rates are going up. To be able to move quickly will save money on both the lending side and construction cost side may outweigh premium for private financing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 01:08:08 PM
-Go in with with private investors + B&M
-Build it
-Sell it to investors

-Profit

Unless it's the city buying it, KCMO funds ain't being used.

I do enjoy you all talking about this though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 01:08:15 PM
I just wish that evil B&M and their 5,500 locally employed Kansas Citians would pack their crap and get the hell out of town.  They can take their 2013 $3,500 campaign contribution with em!!   :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 01:09:22 PM
Relax. I'm sure they will cut KC a sweet deal in this no bid job.

Burns and Mac will get bids for the work. They are the financier here...not the city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:12:24 PM
You need to workshop the lying sly. It just doesn't flow off the tongue ya know.

slying james 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2017, 01:12:46 PM
Talk about a disinformation campaign, good grief
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 01:15:46 PM
Talk about a disinformation campaign, good grief

Seeing people bitch about basically a free airport to them is hilarious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:16:07 PM
Relax. I'm sure they will cut KC a sweet deal in this no bid job.

Burns and Mac will get bids for the work. They are the financier here...not the city.

Quote
Burns & McDonnell has quietly floated to city government officials that it would be the lead firm in creating the design and doing the construction work.

Quote
One key to the proposal for Burns & McDonnell is that it would get an exclusive arrangement with the city to provide the design and come up with a guaranteed maximum price.

Other firms would not have access to make their own offer, nor would the city request bids. James said the city would waive bidding requirements in accepting this plan and that it is legal for the city to do that.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article150073187.html

looks like slying james forgot to log out of his sly titola sock
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:16:54 PM
Talk about a disinformation campaign, good grief

Seeing people bitch about basically a free airport to them is hilarious.

nothing is free in life, cfslyingman
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 12, 2017, 01:17:02 PM
Quote
I’ve voiced my opinion to Kansas City’s mayor and city council, but they are still talking about expanding this streetcar south to UMKC.

Why? The Max bus goes every 30 minutes, with comfortable seating and a schedule. The streetcar has hard seats and an unstable floor, and half the passengers face backward.

Maybe 18th and Vine would benefit from streetcar service, but there’s no need to go south to the Plaza or UMKC.

This would be a huge waste of money.
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article150060487.html

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 01:17:40 PM
Talk about a disinformation campaign, good grief

Seeing people bitch about basically a free airport to them is hilarious.

nothing is free in life, cfslyingman

He's right.  it is $4.20 per roundtrip ticket. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:18:07 PM
Talk about a disinformation campaign, good grief

from which side, slyslyslyslyslyslysly?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 01:19:03 PM
Talk about a disinformation campaign, good grief

Seeing people bitch about basically a free airport to them is hilarious.

nothing is free in life, cfslyingman

pissdax coming on strong
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2017, 01:19:36 PM
Quote
I’ve voiced my opinion to Kansas City’s mayor and city council, but they are still talking about expanding this streetcar south to UMKC.

Why? The Max bus goes every 30 minutes, with comfortable seating and a schedule. The streetcar has hard seats and an unstable floor, and half the passengers face backward.

Maybe 18th and Vine would benefit from streetcar service, but there’s no need to go south to the Plaza or UMKC.

This would be a huge waste of money.
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article150060487.html

 :lol:

well of course JoAnn Fabrics would prefer soft seats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 01:20:29 PM
Let's be honest about it, whether it's bonded or financed privately, taxpayers aren't contributing any funds to this and it won't be guaranteed by the general fund.  It will be paid by user fees on airline tix (~$4.20 per roundtrip ticket) and by the airlines. 

The real and only issue is some people just like the airport the way it is.  has nothing to do with $$$ or B&M.  All of that stuff is just smoke.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 12, 2017, 01:21:27 PM
Backwards seats! Insanity!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 01:22:22 PM
Clams has been asked multiple times to detail the funding so we are all on the same page but he has no interest in that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:22:42 PM
Let's be honest about it, whether it's bonded or financed privately, taxpayers aren't contributing any funds to this and it won't be guaranteed by the general fund.  It will be paid by user fees on airline tix (~$4.20 per roundtrip ticket) and by the airlines. 

The real and only issue is some people just like the airport the way it is.  has nothing to do with $$$ or B&M.  All of that stuff is just smoke.

and let's be honest here, troy "belvis" schulte, most taxpayers are also users of the airport.  so yes, taxpayers are contributing funds to this.  and who's left holding the bag when Burns & Mac leaves the project unfinished and underfunded?  kcmo. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:23:16 PM
Clams has been asked multiple times to detail the funding so we are all on the same page but he has no interest in that.

wouldn't it be easier to walk down the hallway and pull the details off your desk, sly titola?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 01:23:57 PM
Frosty!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 12, 2017, 01:24:16 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 01:25:04 PM
Let's be honest about it, whether it's bonded or financed privately, taxpayers aren't contributing any funds to this and it won't be guaranteed by the general fund.  It will be paid by user fees on airline tix (~$4.20 per roundtrip ticket) and by the airlines. 

The real and only issue is some people just like the airport the way it is.  has nothing to do with $$$ or B&M.  All of that stuff is just smoke.

and let's be honest here, troy "belvis" schulte, most taxpayers are also users of the airport.  so yes, taxpayers are contributing funds to this.  and who's left holding the bag when Burns & Mac leaves the project unfinished and underfunded?  kcmo.

If it's privately financed, no, B&M would be left holding the bag.  Do you know how money works? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:27:35 PM
Let's be honest about it, whether it's bonded or financed privately, taxpayers aren't contributing any funds to this and it won't be guaranteed by the general fund.  It will be paid by user fees on airline tix (~$4.20 per roundtrip ticket) and by the airlines. 

The real and only issue is some people just like the airport the way it is.  has nothing to do with $$$ or B&M.  All of that stuff is just smoke.

and let's be honest here, troy "belvis" schulte, most taxpayers are also users of the airport.  so yes, taxpayers are contributing funds to this.  and who's left holding the bag when Burns & Mac leaves the project unfinished and underfunded?  kcmo.

If it's privately financed, no, B&M would be left holding the bag.  Do you know how money works? 

SURE DON'T, TROY!  do you know how privately financed construction projects work?  a contractor has never walked out on a job during your watch, i'm sure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 01:28:55 PM

SURE DON'T, TROY!  do you know how privately financed construction projects work?  a contractor has never walked out on a job during your watch, i'm sure.

Not a contractor that is privately financing their own project!  What do they call that?  ROI?  Return on investment?  You have to actually build the f'n airport to recoup your investment?  JFC - this is what Sly is up against.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2017, 01:29:46 PM
and who's left holding the bag when Burns & Mac leaves the project unfinished and underfunded?  kcmo.

omg  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
and who's left holding the bag when Burns & Mac leaves the project unfinished and underfunded?  kcmo.

omg  :lol:

I lol'd pretty hard too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 01:32:20 PM

SURE DON'T, TROY!  do you know how privately financed construction projects work?  a contractor has never walked out on a job during your watch, i'm sure.

Not a contractor that is privately financing their own project!  What do they call that?  ROI?  Return on investment?  You have to actually build the f'n airport to recoup your investment?  JFC - this is what Sly is up against.   :facepalm:

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:35:29 PM

SURE DON'T, TROY!  do you know how privately financed construction projects work?  a contractor has never walked out on a job during your watch, i'm sure.

Not a contractor that is privately financing their own project!  What do they call that?  ROI?  Return on investment?  You have to actually build the f'n airport to recoup your investment?  JFC - this is what Sly is up against.   :facepalm:

"sorry kc, we ran out of money, need you to issue some bonds" - cfslyandyman and his cronies at burns and mac
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:37:08 PM
the truth hurts slys, sorry that someone had to bring you a reality check.  hang in there tho you slying bastards, life goes on and you can always visit nice airports in other cities
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 01:38:49 PM
the truth hurts slys, sorry that someone had to bring you a reality check.  hang in there tho you slying bastards, life goes on and you can always visit nice airports in other cities

After connecting through Dallas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 12, 2017, 01:38:51 PM
You need to workshop the lying sly. It just doesn't flow off the tongue ya know.

slying james 
Better. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 01:40:08 PM
I mean, if we walk out on this, sure would be great for our business model right pissdax?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 01:40:59 PM
Can we all appreciate how great it was for the city to bring this out on a Friday for our message board dick off time in the office? Thanks slying!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 01:43:31 PM

SURE DON'T, TROY!  do you know how privately financed construction projects work?  a contractor has never walked out on a job during your watch, i'm sure.

Not a contractor that is privately financing their own project!  What do they call that?  ROI?  Return on investment?  You have to actually build the f'n airport to recoup your investment?  JFC - this is what Sly is up against.   :facepalm:

"sorry kc, we ran out of money, need you to issue some bonds" - cfslyandyman and his cronies at burns and mac

Ahh, the old 'privately-financed-venture-failure-demand-some-bonds' trick. is that a thing?  can you just ask for "some bonds"  ?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 01:43:51 PM

SURE DON'T, TROY!  do you know how privately financed construction projects work?  a contractor has never walked out on a job during your watch, i'm sure.

Not a contractor that is privately financing their own project!  What do they call that?  ROI?  Return on investment?  You have to actually build the f'n airport to recoup your investment?  JFC - this is what Sly is up against.   :facepalm:

Pretty much.

Whoa whoa whoa there boys... don't think for second you can spike the ball on that one. The real issue, as I have now mentioned numerous times and linked a whole article about is the lack of competition in the procurement of this deal. No other finacing, design/arch/engineering, or construction proposals. It's simply a self-financed design-build project that BM has sold the city on. Again the clear issue is lack of competition, qualification based selection, or clear and open bid process. Unfortunately design-build deliveries have a tendency to lead to corruption and COLUSION but that is more of a personal observation/opinion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:47:02 PM
Can we all appreciate how great it was for the city to bring this out on a Friday for our message board dick off time in the office? Thanks slying!

every con man announces bad news on friday's slow news cycle and slying james is no different
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 01:48:20 PM

SURE DON'T, TROY!  do you know how privately financed construction projects work?  a contractor has never walked out on a job during your watch, i'm sure.

Not a contractor that is privately financing their own project!  What do they call that?  ROI?  Return on investment?  You have to actually build the f'n airport to recoup your investment?  JFC - this is what Sly is up against.   :facepalm:

Pretty much.

Whoa whoa whoa there boys... don't think for second you can spike the ball on that one. The real issue, as I have now mentioned numerous times and linked a whole article about is the lack of competition in the procurement of this deal. No other finacing, design/arch/engineering, or construction proposals. It's simply a self-financed design-build project that BM has sold the city on. Again the clear issue is lack of competition, qualification based selection, or clear and open bid process. Unfortunately design-build deliveries have a tendency to lead to corruption and COLUSION but that is more of a personal observation/opinion.

corruption in kansas city, missouri politics?  tom pendergast is rolling over in his grave
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2017, 01:48:57 PM
and who's left holding the bag when Burns & Mac leaves the project unfinished and underfunded?  kcmo.

omg  :lol:

I lol'd pretty hard too

i mean, if you were paranoid about city projects getting done like Dan Clamsey, you could theoretically ask this question for literally every single city construction project, while you nod back and forth in the shower muttering "slying james" over and over until you pass out after remembering ol sly probably contaminated your water supply
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 01:53:27 PM
Before we throw this all out over the engineering firm not bidding out engineering services on their own engineering project financed by them the engineering firm alone....maybe let's hear the details on how the city will be assured they are getting what they need?

You the flying public will pay 2 more bucks on your ticket....50 cents more for satellite parking, 1 more on premium parking, and 50 cents more on your snacks....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 01:54:27 PM
and who's left holding the bag when Burns & Mac leaves the project unfinished and underfunded?  kcmo.

omg  :lol:

I lol'd pretty hard too

i mean, if you were paranoid about city projects getting done like Dan Clamsey, you could theoretically ask this question for literally every single city construction project, while you nod back and forth in the shower muttering "slying james" over and over until you pass out after remembering ol sly probably contaminated your water supply

sly : pissclams :: hillary : dax is how I look at it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 02:00:47 PM
Before we throw this all out over the engineering firm not bidding out engineering services on their own engineering project financed by them the engineering firm alone....maybe let's hear the details on how the city will be assured they are getting what they need?

You the flying public will pay 2 more bucks on your ticket....50 cents more for satellite parking, 1 more on premium parking, and 50 cents more on your snacks....

shouldn't you have thought about that before putting out your press release, slying?
my quotes are your words.    backtracking already, so sad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 12, 2017, 02:00:57 PM
Cam clearly isn't getting this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 12, 2017, 02:04:28 PM

SURE DON'T, TROY!  do you know how privately financed construction projects work?  a contractor has never walked out on a job during your watch, i'm sure.

Not a contractor that is privately financing their own project!  What do they call that?  ROI?  Return on investment?  You have to actually build the f'n airport to recoup your investment?  JFC - this is what Sly is up against.   :facepalm:

Pretty much.

Whoa whoa whoa there boys... don't think for second you can spike the ball on that one. The real issue, as I have now mentioned numerous times and linked a whole article about is the lack of competition in the procurement of this deal. No other finacing, design/arch/engineering, or construction proposals. It's simply a self-financed design-build project that BM has sold the city on. Again the clear issue is lack of competition, qualification based selection, or clear and open bid process. Unfortunately design-build deliveries have a tendency to lead to corruption and COLUSION but that is more of a personal observation/opinion.

U free market loving son of a bitch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 12, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
They could do an rfp and just give it to bm if that makes you feel better
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 02:09:53 PM
what does Burns&Mac (if that's even their real name) know about building airports anyway?  or, for that matter, building buildings? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 03:12:08 PM
Before we throw this all out over the engineering firm not bidding out engineering services on their own engineering project financed by them the engineering firm alone....maybe let's hear the details on how the city will be assured they are getting what they need?

You the flying public will pay 2 more bucks on your ticket....50 cents more for satellite parking, 1 more on premium parking, and 50 cents more on your snacks....

shouldn't you have thought about that before putting out your press release, slying?
my quotes are your words.    backtracking already, so sad

I think I prefer the first funding method....but people like you and Dan Coffey who couldn't let it go have created his ....so you made the bed, lie in it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 03:22:46 PM
They could do an rfp and just give it to bm if that makes you feel better

From reading the latest news... If the city council approves/signs the MOU next Thursday, it's a done deal.

Less than a week between public announcement and pen to paper for exclusive rights :horrorsurprise:

CHOO!!! CHOO!!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2017/05/12/burns-and-mcdonnell-new-kci-terminal-proposal.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2017/05/12/burns-and-mcdonnell-new-kci-terminal-proposal.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 03:38:49 PM
That's not accurate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 12, 2017, 03:45:31 PM
That's not accurate

You're right, PT.

They are set to sign it June 15th and just review it next Thursday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 04:18:00 PM
Before we throw this all out over the engineering firm not bidding out engineering services on their own engineering project financed by them the engineering firm alone....maybe let's hear the details on how the city will be assured they are getting what they need?

You the flying public will pay 2 more bucks on your ticket....50 cents more for satellite parking, 1 more on premium parking, and 50 cents more on your snacks....

shouldn't you have thought about that before putting out your press release, slying?
my quotes are your words.    backtracking already, so sad

I think I prefer the first funding method....but people like you and Dan Coffey who couldn't let it go have created his ....so you made the bed, lie in it.

ol' slyin "i like votes unless they don't benefit my position and then i hate votes" james...can't make this stuff up folks

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 04:22:22 PM
ol' slyin "i love kcmo except the people who live here that don't get it and are too stupid to support my side of issues" titola...so sad!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 04:52:25 PM
ole "get nothing done but my wife is barefoot in city hall" funkclams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 05:09:30 PM
ole "get nothing done but my wife is barefoot in city hall" funkclams

wow attacking a former mayor's wife...slying titola is flustered folks.  when all else fails, including the pending airport vote, slyin's gloves come off!  terribly sad day at city hall
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 12, 2017, 06:45:01 PM
Fun trivia question of the night.  Which is greater - the amount taxpayers will pay to finance our airport or the amount they paid to finance Gloria and Mark Funkhoser's hostile work environment settlement and attorney's fees. ???  Clams any guesses? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2017, 07:59:22 PM
has to be airport taxpayers
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 12, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
If this no-laptops-in-the-cabin spreads to domestic US flights, as some have speculated, KCI is going to get rebuilt a lot quicker....every flier in the region will lose their crap at our check in lines.  Sky Cap will make a rough ridin' fortune tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 12, 2017, 09:50:40 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/news/local/crime/article150196447.html

A business owner died today after trying to stop a robbery.  Took emergency responders 17 minutes to get on scene, and only because some bystanders drove to a fire station and banged on the doors.  When they arrived 911 was still on hold.  eff KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 12, 2017, 09:57:47 PM
17 minutes seems really fast.  $20 comics doesn't seem worth it tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 12, 2017, 10:23:23 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/007238409f17748fedf1b887395495cb.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 12, 2017, 11:14:13 PM
More direct flights suck guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 12, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/news/local/crime/article150196447.html

A business owner died today after trying to stop a robbery.  Took emergency responders 17 minutes to get on scene, and only because some bystanders drove to a fire station and banged on the doors.  When they arrived 911 was still on hold.  eff KC.

It's not Lenexa so what do you expect?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 12, 2017, 11:53:02 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/news/local/crime/article150196447.html

A business owner died today after trying to stop a robbery.  Took emergency responders 17 minutes to get on scene, and only because some bystanders drove to a fire station and banged on the doors.  When they arrived 911 was still on hold.  eff KC.

It's not Lenexa so what do you expect?

For an extra 1% payroll tax I'd expect cops on every corner.  Why does KC manage to do so much less with so much more?  It's criminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 12, 2017, 11:55:40 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/news/local/crime/article150196447.html

A business owner died today after trying to stop a robbery.  Took emergency responders 17 minutes to get on scene, and only because some bystanders drove to a fire station and banged on the doors.  When they arrived 911 was still on hold.  eff KC.

It's not Lenexa so what do you expect?

For an extra 1% payroll tax I'd expect cops on every corner.  Why does KC manage to do so much less with so much more?  It's criminal.

Let me introduce you to the Street Car.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 13, 2017, 12:29:37 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/news/local/crime/article150196447.html

A business owner died today after trying to stop a robbery.  Took emergency responders 17 minutes to get on scene, and only because some bystanders drove to a fire station and banged on the doors.  When they arrived 911 was still on hold.  eff KC.

It's not Lenexa so what do you expect?

For an extra 1% payroll tax I'd expect cops on every corner.  Why does KC manage to do so much less with so much more?  It's criminal.

That's too bad.  Agreed should expect and deserve better.  Forward details to KCFD if you really want improvements.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 13, 2017, 10:13:28 AM
Is it the KCFD that administers the 911 line?

I'm sure whoever does measures their performance, and well aware that not answering an emergency call for 17 minutes is pretty rough ridin' poor performance.

KC has gotten too dangerous and no one is motivated to stop it or mitigate.  I'm not going up there anymore. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 13, 2017, 11:22:54 AM
The call wasn't answered for 17 minutes or they didn't arrive in 17 minutes?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 13, 2017, 02:16:04 PM
Where are the details of how long the call took to be responded to?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 13, 2017, 02:44:00 PM
I just gave the details.  The call was never answered.  The callers were still on hold when firemen arrived.  Those firemen knew to respond because bystanders literally drove to the firehouse and banged on the doors.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 13, 2017, 02:50:13 PM
I just gave the details.  The call was never answered.  The callers were still on hold when firemen arrived.  Those firemen knew to respond because bystanders literally drove to the firehouse and banged on the doors.

Where did those details come from?  First hand account?  I'm going to share this with councilmembers so I was hoping for all the details.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 13, 2017, 03:22:47 PM
Found the info...posted by blind tiger on their facebook page...and another post said the delays might be caused by a new dispatch system that was just installed...and still another comment says they've been rerouted 3 times while calling 911 in Merriam.  I've heard of some other people calling 911 and being rerouted as well...i assume this is due to cell phones going to the wrong switching but I thought they fixed all that?  Seems the metro agencies should get together and have one 911 center for the entire metro.

http://fox4kc.com/2017/05/11/while-dispatchers-get-familiar-with-new-system-kc-cops-told-to-abstain-from-some-regular-tasks/

Unfortunate event...hopefully this 911 delay thing is really temporary....I found some call data that KCMO 911 retains and that data shows a call typically holds for 15 seconds....

http://lmgcorporate.com/kctv/news/2016DailyQueuedCallReport.pdf


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2017, 08:45:24 AM
Why tf would you run after a thief with a gun for some comic books?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 14, 2017, 12:58:22 PM
Blame the victim good call chodecat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 14, 2017, 01:08:15 PM
Sorry for your loss emo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2017, 01:20:19 PM
Blame the victim good call chodecat.

chode gotta chode
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 15, 2017, 10:50:47 AM
Hmm... Sure seems like a bad deal.

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/dave-helling/article150290907.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/dave-helling/article150290907.html)

 :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 15, 2017, 12:17:22 PM
Hmm... Sure seems like a bad deal.

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/dave-helling/article150290907.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/dave-helling/article150290907.html)

 :'bye cruel world:

That article had no new information.  private option makes project more sellable to dumbasses that don't understand/care about financing.  B&M higher interest rate, but shorter construction time.  Cost for airport will be passed on to airlines and users of KCI (in ticket fees).

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2017, 12:45:57 PM
Blame the victim good call chodecat.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2017, 01:53:58 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/churches-say-they-shouldnt-have-to-pay-special-assessment-for-streetcar

steal from the poor, give to the rich.  smdh @ slying james
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 15, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
Why tf would you run after a thief with a gun for some comic books?

Have not read or heard he had a gun. He was an unarmed 40+ white nerd shoplifting and the owner was hit by his car. I think the going after the shoplifter was understandable.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 15, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
Also, took the kids and Mrs CF3 down to the market yesterday for Mother's Day on the streetcar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2017, 02:06:07 PM
Why tf would you (with a gun) run after a thief with a gun for some comic books?

Have not read or heard he had a gun. He was an unarmed 40+ white nerd shoplifting and the owner was hit by his car. I think the going after the shoplifter was understandable.

i have edited my post to clarify ^
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2017, 03:41:48 PM
that's a pretty good question, chodester, my guess is because you can either let people walk over you in life or you can stand up for yourself and the crap that you believe in and value.  and you should be able to do those things without fear of getting killed.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2017, 03:45:18 PM
that's a pretty good question, chodester, my guess is because you can either let people walk over you in life or you can stand up for yourself and the crap that you believe in and value.  and you should be able to do those things without fear of getting killed.

you should be able to take a gun and run after someone without fear of getting killed?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2017, 03:51:42 PM
that's a pretty good question, chodester, my guess is because you can either let people walk over you in life or you can stand up for yourself and the crap that you believe in and value.  and you should be able to do those things without fear of getting killed.

you should be able to take a gun and run after someone without fear of getting killed?

chode's gonna chode
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on May 15, 2017, 05:28:58 PM
He means dedicated bus lane not open to other traffic

you wouldn't be able to drive in the same lane as the streetcar?  :Wha:

I don't think you're understanding. When clams says there "is no full-time bus lane", he's referring to a dedicated lane that only busses can use. It's not a very good point, but I would be fine giving busses/streetcar dedicated lanes on Main where there is space.

I pretty much only drive on main on Saturday/Sunday afternoons, so maybe it gets more congested than I think, but adding a streetcar seems like a pretty damn minor addition to the traffic

I drive on it every day during rush hour morning and evening and nobody drives in the bus lane anyway because they're mouth breathing morons who can't read signs or follow directions.  Protip: if you're reverse-commuting on Main street, use the Max lane to fly past all other traffic.  But beware the speed trap at St. Paul's Episcopal Day school, cops make their living pulling hayseeds over for speeding there in the morning.  Then they go over to Starbucks to have a good chuckle at all the rubes they nabbed.  But I digress...

Conclusion, even if they totally closed off the Max lane to traffic for streetcar use it wouldn't impact traffic on Main in any meaningful way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on May 15, 2017, 05:59:45 PM
Oh, and sorry for the necroquote...back to whining about the airport I guess?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2017, 08:00:29 PM
"From the time we received the call to the time we got there was about 4 minutes and 40 seconds," said Garrett.

"We don't have anyone who was on hold for 17 minutes, so we are looking into that," said Graves.

http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/response-times-questioned-after-comic-store-owners-death
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 16, 2017, 09:50:10 PM
I'm 80% sure an SdK will be coming to a KCMO near you this summer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2017, 04:44:31 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/chow-town/article149873519.html
Quote
A look inside TikiCat, Kansas City's hottest new bar
:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 18, 2017, 04:56:10 PM
don't let the secret out!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2017, 05:08:38 PM
Def hipsters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 20, 2017, 12:25:39 PM
um, guys....

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article151613637.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article151613637.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2017, 01:06:33 PM
This is why I don't exercise, too dangerous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 20, 2017, 01:08:07 PM
This is why I don't exercise, too dangerous

i've been saying this for years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 20, 2017, 01:16:28 PM
these trails sound like a death trap, I hope no one on this blog site runs them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 20, 2017, 01:45:35 PM
Wacky is right in the area and target age group :(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 20, 2017, 01:51:37 PM
That's mean. :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 20, 2017, 01:55:05 PM
I think he's just saying you're an old soul wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 20, 2017, 01:56:14 PM
We are also talking about math here too so idk :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 20, 2017, 01:58:28 PM
I use to walk that trail over lunch sometimes. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 20, 2017, 02:01:16 PM
Are you the killer?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 20, 2017, 02:43:58 PM
I think I know the killer. She knows all these dudes.  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 20, 2017, 02:46:54 PM
Eeeek. Call that tip line!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 20, 2017, 02:58:08 PM
Personally I never go south of the plaza, too dangerous. Lock your car doors.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 20, 2017, 02:59:51 PM
Personally I never go south of the plaza, too dangerous. Lock your car doors.
Well that's a lie. You flipped your crap when I gave an average review of Bier Station.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 20, 2017, 03:05:56 PM
Bier Station > Bier Co.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 20, 2017, 03:32:06 PM
This person is killing white guys in their 50-60's. You know who hates that demographic? Abe! He's the killer!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 20, 2017, 04:28:05 PM
Personally I never go south of the plaza, too dangerous. Lock your car doors.
Well that's a lie. You flipped your crap when I gave an average review of Bier Station.

 :lol: I made fun of you for complaining about walking 15 feet everytime you needed a refull.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 20, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
Refull madness
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 20, 2017, 04:29:38 PM
Personally I never go south of the plaza, too dangerous. Lock your car doors.
Well that's a lie. You flipped your crap when I gave an average review of Bier Station.

 :lol: I made fun of you for complaining about walking 15 feet everytime you needed a refull.
:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2017, 05:36:21 PM
Refull madness
a classic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 20, 2017, 05:39:27 PM
I'm still a little wtf about that one. The worst part of Emperial besides the name is you have to wait for the waitress to bring your beer and bring your check, when all i want is to just start a tab with the bartender
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 20, 2017, 06:28:07 PM
Sounds awful. My group of friends have to walk up separately to put down a tab instead of getting service. :frown: What a inconvenience disrupting conversations. Might as well stay home and serve ourselves in doors. Much cheaper and much more convenient. It's like you're renting their space for a bit to drink beer that you could already take home.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 21, 2017, 12:01:23 AM
Guyz, this while Indian Crick serial killer thing has me worried. I have literally been catfishing right where the owner of coaches was killed (but not at like 2 am when I assume this guy was killed)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 21, 2017, 01:31:49 AM
Guyz, this while Indian Crick serial killer thing has me worried. I have literally been catfishing right where the owner of coaches was killed (but not at like 2 am when I assume this guy was killed)

dude was killed at 6:30 am yo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 21, 2017, 07:36:37 AM
Guyz, this while Indian Crick serial killer thing has me worried. I have literally been catfishing right where the owner of coaches was killed (but not at like 2 am when I assume this guy was killed)

dude was killed at 6:30 am yo
They found him at 630, have not heard when he died. I'm guessing he took the dog for a walk after he closed the bar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 21, 2017, 07:56:05 AM
Guyz, this while Indian Crick serial killer thing has me worried. I have literally been catfishing right where the owner of coaches was killed (but not at like 2 am when I assume this guy was killed)

dude was killed at 6:30 am yo
They found him at 630, have not heard when he died. I'm guessing he took the dog for a walk after he closed the bar.

All the victims are between 54 and 67 years old. Sounds like a serial killer. Someone must be killing old dudes that remind them of their abusive uncle/dad/grandpa/neighbor, etc.  I am on that trail quite a bit too, but on the Kansas side. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 21, 2017, 08:54:22 AM
Guyz, this while Indian Crick serial killer thing has me worried. I have literally been catfishing right where the owner of coaches was killed (but not at like 2 am when I assume this guy was killed)

dude was killed at 6:30 am yo
They found him at 630, have not heard when he died. I'm guessing he took the dog for a walk after he closed the bar.

pretty sure that i read that he took his dogs to walk along the trail every morning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 21, 2017, 06:33:02 PM
mahomes sat behind me on my swa flight from lax to mci today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2017, 06:47:09 PM
mahomes sat behind me on my swa flight from lax to mci today

High fives exchanged?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 21, 2017, 07:29:17 PM
mahomes sat behind me on my swa flight from lax to mci today

High fives exchanged?
visual high fives
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 21, 2017, 07:50:56 PM
A group?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 23, 2017, 12:09:25 PM
Clams - remember today at 5:00pm is the deadline to apply for a voter ballot on the streetcar expansion.  Let your voice be heard!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article152089712.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2017, 12:24:07 PM
Clams - remember today at 5:00pm is the deadline to apply for a voter ballot on the streetcar expansion.  Let your voice be heard!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article152089712.html

Must fax or deliver in person by 5pm today. Mailing with postmark of today is not permissable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2017, 01:36:50 PM
Clams - remember today at 5:00pm is the deadline to apply for a voter ballot on the streetcar expansion.  Let your voice be heard!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article152089712.html

my voice was heard and summarily dismissed, just like the majority of KCMO voters's were.   that's why we're having this vote, dumbass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2017, 01:41:04 PM
That was a different plan that the east side voters didn't want....so a new plan was created that involved those who voted for it and expressed the desire to tax themselves...so the RTA took the lead to provide them what they wanted...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2017, 01:50:18 PM
That was a different plan that the east side voters didn't want....so a new plan was created that involved those who voted for it and expressed the desire to tax themselves...so the RTA took the lead to provide them what they wanted...

city hall person 1:  how do we get this passed?
city hall person 2:  look at the areas that voted yes and only allow those people who voted yes to vote on the next proposal

that's called gerrymandering but hey, nothing sly does is wrong and sly only does right so enjoy your streetcar that we all know is going to pass since this has been rigged to pass

hopefully dan coffey puts the kibosh on this dumbass idea when he takes office
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 01:51:50 PM
this is textbook gerrymandering, i agree dan clamsey
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2017, 02:00:59 PM
Judge didn't agree that the mander was being gerried.....the voting area is pretty equidistant from the line...hard to argue for that being unfair under TDD law....let's talk about the plaza taxing tdd without ANY votes if you want to talk unfair.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 02:18:26 PM
This cop is so mumped!

http://www.kmbc.com/article/cause-of-death-determined-in-toni-anderson-case/9914506
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2017, 02:25:24 PM
Yeah that doesn't seem like it will end well for him.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2017, 02:45:41 PM
Judge didn't agree that the mander was being gerried.....the voting area is pretty equidistant from the line...hard to argue for that being unfair under TDD law....let's talk about the plaza taxing tdd without ANY votes if you want to talk unfair.

do you think that one being worse than the other makes the lesser of the two OK?  tdd law is mumped and what allowed the streetcar in the first place.  and yes, selectively pulling individuals into a voting district to ensure a favorable result is the textbook definition of gerrymandering, regardless of what the judge said and that's exactly what took place here and exactly what russ johnson said was going to happen back when his corrupt ass was on the council.

"you don't think this line is going to get extended?  i know 50 people that will make sure it does" 

kcmo politics, you really can't make this crap up.  really though, it's hard to blame the dishonest politicos and businesses who are getting rich off of these things. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2017, 02:52:25 PM
Yes i think a zero vote sales tax is worse than this where thousands are voting and thousands more only had to fill out a form within a 6 week process to get a ballot (which is way easier than showing up one day at a location to vote).

I am a fan of those who benefit, pay for it...so zona Rosa residents shouldn't have a vote where they aren't increasing their own property tax. Vice versa...they want to tax themselves for better something in their hood...go for it...I don't need or want to vote on it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2017, 02:53:29 PM
The last thing we want is for businesses to raise their own taxes and then make craploads more money
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 03:19:22 PM
i asked a few people at work what they wanted for lunch, but i did NOT ask the nerds on the 3rd floor, who would not be attending lunch with us. i gerrymandered TF out of lunch today  :cool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 23, 2017, 03:25:12 PM
This cop is so mumped!

http://www.kmbc.com/article/cause-of-death-determined-in-toni-anderson-case/9914506

well, i suppose it's possible she did rails at the gas station before going swimming...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 03:26:45 PM
Did you watch the police video? She sounded awful and he knew it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on May 23, 2017, 03:33:15 PM
That's a bad look for the cop. She is clearly intoxicated and on the wrong side of the road.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 23, 2017, 03:33:53 PM
Did you watch the police video? She sounded awful and he knew it.

LOL, no just saw that.   Wow.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 23, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
why do you suppose they released 20 minutes of dash cam footage?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 03:44:40 PM
why do you suppose they released 20 minutes of dash cam footage?
Not sure, that's very bizarre.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 23, 2017, 05:12:31 PM
Def need the audio (that probably doesn't exist) of his conversation with the 2nd officer that shows up. I thought for sure he would follow up with her at the QT after telling her to go 'park over there and gather yourself'

If it wasn't raining she gets field sobriety, right? Not a good look.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 06:00:47 PM
If that's a male, they get field sobriety 100% of the time. :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 06:04:43 PM
They've had that tap the whole time too. Even when she was just missing at the time. They could have been discrete and said something like "last seen at..."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on May 23, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
why do you suppose they released 20 minutes of dash cam footage?

Maybe because there were like 100 comments on the Star's website accusing the cop of murdering her and the PD of covering it up.

Really strange story
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2017, 06:33:37 PM
They've had that tap the whole time too. Even when she was just missing at the time. They could have been discrete and said something like "last seen at..."

yeah that was out the second day she went missing:
http://fox4kc.com/2017/01/17/police-still-searching-for-20-year-old-wichita-woman-last-seen-in-kc/

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 23, 2017, 07:30:45 PM
Clams - remember today at 5:00pm is the deadline to apply for a voter ballot on the streetcar expansion.  Let your voice be heard!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/kc-streetcar/article152089712.html

my voice was heard and summarily dismissed, just like the majority of KCMO voters's were.   that's why we're having this vote, dumbass

I can't wait to park and ride to work every day!  This is gonna be so great!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 23, 2017, 09:43:42 PM
The streetcar thing is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can't believe kcmo is doing that.

You can get a perfectly suitable train ride for your kids at the zoo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
The streetcar thing is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can't believe kcmo is doing that.

You can get a perfectly suitable train ride for your kids at the zoo.

Worlds of Fun train > zoo train
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 11:18:51 AM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2017, 12:22:19 PM
I hope there is a city-wide vote on it and the northland and East side say no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 12:26:18 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 02:05:59 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 02:07:39 PM
I hope there is a city-wide vote on it and the northland and East side say no

that's fine, it will pass but even if it didn't, i would bow to the will of the people.  unlike slying james.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 02:24:33 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.

I know no one in West plaza that wants this. It's a truck stop.... Head out to oooolllathe if that's what you want to live by
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2017, 02:30:42 PM
i got coffee (peruvian) and gas at that exact QT this morning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 24, 2017, 02:40:43 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.

I know no one in West plaza that wants this. It's a truck stop.... Head out to oooolllathe if that's what you want to live by

They don't want to have a place to get gas nearby?  Wtf r u talking about?  That is psychotic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 02:58:57 PM
They have a perfectly fine gas station.out of your league here kim
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 03:26:29 PM
They have a perfectly fine gas station.out of your league here kim

you're out of your neighborhood here phil
i live in the west plaza and want this, case closed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 03:27:41 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.

I know no one in West plaza that wants this. It's a truck stop.... Head out to oooolllathe if that's what you want to live by

head out to portland if you want to live by a real functioning streetcar line
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
They have a perfectly fine gas station.out of your league here kim

you're out of your neighborhood here phil
i live in the west plaza and want this, case closed.

Agreed...if your neighborhood wants it...go for it. 900 people signed a petition against it last go around...doesn't sound like your hood is behind it.

I'm all for QT getting a new store there...I think they could have designed it better to fit the neighborhood.maybe this new proposal they have made better...I haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 03:30:45 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.

I know no one in West plaza that wants this. It's a truck stop.... Head out to oooolllathe if that's what you want to live by

head out to portland if you want to live by a real functioning streetcar line

Theirs isn't even free to ride.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2017, 03:32:08 PM
I never used it. You know why? Everything is within walking distance and a $5 Uber.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2017, 03:33:22 PM
I never used it. You know why? Everything is within walking distance and a $5 Uber.

 :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
I never used it. You know why? Everything is within walking distance and a $5 Uber.

I'm going to cruise down to the plaza and drink with clams when it's done for no fare...since he will never meet me downtown for lunch  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2017, 03:39:30 PM
I'm best buds with Clams and he never came downtown to see me either. Man loves his surroundings. I don't hate him for that at all. I totally get it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 03:41:52 PM
I'm best buds with Clams and he never came downtown to see me either. Man loves his surroundings. I don't hate him for that at all. I totally get it.

Me too! Hard to get me out of downtown...but a no fare streetcar will have me bopping down 47th
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2017, 04:11:06 PM
So in 5 years we may get this much anticipated 'clams-' titola sit down  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 04:24:11 PM
The families must meet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 24, 2017, 04:47:45 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.

I think you do a great job of bullshitting all of us with your insane opinions, and that's all good fun. But calling a woman $!#* is not ok.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 05:21:41 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.

I think you do a great job of bullshitting all of us with your insane opinions, and that's all good fun. But calling a woman $!#* is not ok.

i don't give a crap what you think
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 24, 2017, 05:27:48 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.

I think you do a great job of bullshitting all of us with your insane opinions, and that's all good fun. But calling a woman $!#* is not ok.

i don't give a crap what you think
You're the best
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 24, 2017, 05:30:48 PM
Fun fact: SdK mom filed for divorce less than 24 hours after SdK dad called her a $!#*.

My mom is a stud. Also I agree with KCFD.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 24, 2017, 05:37:44 PM
Celebrating someone's death ok.  Calling someone a mean name not ok. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
depends on the person(s)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 24, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
It's all about context, hombre.

Was that you on I70?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 05:48:39 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/proposal-for-new-westport-quiktrip-back-on-track

time to green light this bad boy

West plaza home owners hate this. Not going for the bait clams!

no, they actually don't.  a $!#* who calls herself the president of the west plaza neighborhood association does.  don't conflate the two, tia.

I think you do a great job of bullshitting all of us with your insane opinions, and that's all good fun. But calling a woman $!#* is not ok.


i don't give a crap what you think
You're the best
read my previous post, sweetie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 24, 2017, 08:15:23 PM
That QT will be so great. I'll prob fill up at the Main QT tho, b/c it'll be closer to the park and ride. I wonder where they'll put the park and ride(s)? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 24, 2017, 08:23:14 PM
Looks like the president of the WPNA is a dude. Btw.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 09:08:15 PM
That QT will be so great. I'll prob fill up at the Main QT tho, b/c it'll be closer to the park and ride. I wonder where they'll put the park and ride(s)? 

don't really understand the "it looks like a truckstop" crowd, i think it looks like what it is, a giant QT which fits the needs of the people who rely on it, the one on 80 something and state line is big and doesn't seem to interrupt old leawood any
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2017, 09:27:22 PM
Busy af too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2017, 09:51:37 PM
In-depth (long af) article about why vacating Westport streets is a poor idea:

http://urbanangle.net/great-westport-giveaway-turning-public-streets-private-property/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2017, 10:06:17 PM
In-depth (long af) article about why vacating Westport streets is a poor idea:

http://urbanangle.net/great-westport-giveaway-turning-public-streets-private-property/


lol you're so hilariously predictable, and that "article" is nothing but an opinion piece.

THE LAST THING WE WOULD WANT IS FOR A BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2017, 07:01:36 AM
Yes it's obviously an opinion....I haven't seen anything close to in depth from the Westport business group as to why their plan is a good idea...they can't even get their story straight on reasons why it's a good idea...but if you think the city giving away assets then you are quite the sly James shill. This is a dumb idea.

Nowhere is it explained how businesses will make more money with this plan.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 25, 2017, 07:57:08 AM
tangientially related, via the vacant (i think still?) former berbiglia's: did you know they have a fried chicken restaurant at 87th & metcalf called Berbiglia's Roost? i just found this out yesterday. in the former Fuddrucker's building
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 25, 2017, 07:58:25 AM
i think that a cleaned up westport road that's home to an expanded qt would serve more customers.  many, many, people avoid that whole area because of the congestion.  qt is trying to help their public while at the same time improve their bottom line and i'm all for it.

of course, the guy who lives 5 miles away in downtown and doesn't drive a car wouldn't understand my concerns with the current situation but they're valid

the other option is that we could wait for the city to start pushing code enforcement and clean up the empty businesses along that area but we know they're too busy shoving their airport/streetcar agendas down people's unwanting throats.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2017, 08:07:54 AM
i think that a cleaned up westport road that's home to an expanded qt would serve more customers.  many, many, people avoid that whole area because of the congestion.  qt is trying to help their public while at the same time improve their bottom line and i'm all for it.

of course, the guy who lives 5 miles away in downtown and doesn't drive a car wouldn't understand my concerns with the current situation but they're valid

Clams I already said if your neighborhood wants it...go for it...900 people signing a petition saying they don't want it doesn't seem like the plan was good for the neighborhood?

As a primarily pedestrian commuter I like to make sure all forms of transportation are accounted for...not just the drivers blazing in on Westport Rd that need their taquito.

I'm all for expanding and improving qt as it's one of my favorite places...hopefully their redrawn plans address your community concerns and they can move forward.

Lastly I hate the new QT store layout but that's a different thread .
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 25, 2017, 08:21:14 AM
hopefully QT shutters that location and moves elsewhere, just like the rest of the closures in its immediate vicinity. and the space sits vacant for 20 years. that should give julie and her merry band of dickheads an opportunity to show us how to design and run a gas station the right way
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
#savewestportQT

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 25, 2017, 08:29:35 AM
hates QT store new layout!  :curse: :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2017, 08:30:07 AM
hates QT store new layout!  :curse: :shakesfist:

Don't even get me started on this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 25, 2017, 08:31:44 AM
hates QT store new layout!  :curse: :shakesfist:

Don't even get me started on this.

what do you hate about it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 25, 2017, 08:41:48 AM
How many of those 900 were Westwood residents?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 26, 2017, 08:54:49 AM
https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/868098709204193282

Get em clams!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 26, 2017, 09:44:40 AM
get who?  this issue has nothing to do with me and i really don't care much about it.  westport will always be westport, a place that i don't go to and only drive through, regardless of what happens here.  it is odd that the city seems to be standing on the sidelines as much as they are though.
and don't try to draw parallels with the qt situ because there are none
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 26, 2017, 09:58:23 AM
He called the opinion piece an "article"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2017, 10:03:45 AM
https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/868098709204193282

Get em clams!
Quote
Truly public spaces like our streets and parks are the venues where we all gather, not to shop or consume, but to engage with each other, to interact with our friends and neighbors, and to exercise our rights and duties as citizens to participate in civic discourse.

 :jerk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 26, 2017, 10:11:17 AM
yeah, lots of d'asses out there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2017, 10:15:56 AM
last night we had a fire in the fire pit, and at one point put a huge clump of shrubbery (which was wet from rain) on the fire, and it smelled so bad that a neighbor apparently called the fire department. a full squadron of 6 absolute fire bros showed up, and they were like well looks like you have a good set up here, 25 ft from the house, water source nearby....got a beer? it was great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 26, 2017, 10:20:44 AM
last night we had a fire in the fire pit, and at one point put a huge clump of shrubbery (which was wet from rain) on the fire, and it smelled so bad that a neighbor apparently called the fire department. a full squadron of 6 absolute fire bros showed up, and they were like well looks like you have a good set up here, 25 ft from the house, water source nearby....got a beer? it was great.
Sounds like a good group of fire bros
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2017, 10:23:44 AM
yes they were like what my mind's eye would imagine fire bros to be. one kinda shorter guy just had an axe for no reason. he was the gimli of the group obviously
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2017, 10:27:05 AM
One thing that sucks taint and balls about qt is no little Debbie products. Sometimes I'm craving a fudge round or that chocolate chip cookie creme sandwich thing. Delish
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 26, 2017, 10:43:02 AM
he was the gimli of the group obviously

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 26, 2017, 11:40:31 AM
did they have a dalmatian?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 26, 2017, 11:44:38 AM
just ran into a bunch of fire bros at sun fresh, they're always there.  i wonder why they don't shop at the 'co of cost
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2017, 11:48:02 AM
did they have a dalmatian?

of course not. real life isn't a kids movie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 26, 2017, 11:50:13 AM
I bet somewhere in the USA there is a house of firebros with a dalmatian 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 26, 2017, 12:56:17 PM
https://twitter.com/stevekraske/status/868162441745661952
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on May 26, 2017, 01:22:54 PM
That's true. Down to earth, modest people don't like change.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 26, 2017, 01:25:53 PM
https://twitter.com/stevekraske/status/868162441745661952

We had a lunch meeting talking about the airport, it would've been a Titola dream. 'Clams would've just probably shouted liar or some crap a few times. I enjoyed picturing them both of them at it.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2017, 01:31:52 PM
Pretty good article, I remember lolling my face off at the dumbs opposed to the sprint center
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2017, 02:26:24 PM
i was very young but i definitely remember my parents thinking the bartle hall sculptures were stupid and ugly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 26, 2017, 02:49:21 PM
i was very young but i definitely remember my parents thinking the bartle hall sculptures were stupid and ugly

my dad still holds this view.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 26, 2017, 02:49:54 PM
i still hold the view that the shuttlecocks are stupid
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2017, 02:50:33 PM
i still hold the view that the shuttlecocks are stupid

they're fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2017, 02:51:08 PM
i was very young but i definitely remember my parents thinking the bartle hall sculptures were stupid and ugly

I remember watching them be set on the news, but never heard anyone's opinion
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 26, 2017, 03:18:54 PM
stupid
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 26, 2017, 03:23:54 PM
https://twitter.com/stevekraske/status/868162441745661952

Very much no....the townies hate change.  It's nice to get some new blood into the city though lately....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 26, 2017, 03:25:01 PM
I'm sure that article could be written about every city in America
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 26, 2017, 03:27:33 PM
I'm sure that article could be written about every city in America

Yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 26, 2017, 10:19:12 PM
I bet somewhere in the USA there is a house of firebros with a dalmatian
My first house had a Dalmatian. Giant pain in the ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 27, 2017, 07:49:27 AM
I'm sure that article could be written about every city in America

Yes
San Francisco HATED the pyramid and pretty much anything interesting architecturally since. (And it really hasn't had much interesting be built, relative to KC).

I don't think a new airport is a good comparisons to the things he listed, though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 30, 2017, 02:02:28 PM
Airport going out for bid to other private investors
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 30, 2017, 03:50:10 PM
Time to start up the airport talk again :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 30, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Airport going out for bid to other private investors

A positive step in the right direction. Now the next step should be that the selection process is given to an independent commission or committee and taken out of the hands of elected politicians. This topic and project have become way too politicized amongst the city council (particularly for those with aspirations to run for mayor) for something this important and integral to KC's future.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2017, 03:59:17 PM
Airport going out for bid to other private investors

But all the anti-airport idiots told us bmd was a done deal and the city had already been fleeced  :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 30, 2017, 04:26:40 PM
Airport going out for bid to other private investors

A positive step in the right direction. Now the next step should be that the selection process is given to an independent commission or committee and taken out of the hands of elected politicians. This topic and project have become way too politicized amongst the city council (particularly for those with aspirations to run for mayor) for something this important and integral to KC's future.
Maybe a bit extreme. Bids will be public so let the council make the decision and let's move the eff on with this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 30, 2017, 04:45:00 PM
it took me like, 30 minutes to figure out how to leave the MSP airport a couple weeks ago. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on May 30, 2017, 05:03:17 PM
Airport going out for bid to other private investors

A positive step in the right direction. Now the next step should be that the selection process is given to an independent commission or committee and taken out of the hands of elected politicians. This topic and project have become way too politicized amongst the city council (particularly for those with aspirations to run for mayor) for something this important and integral to KC's future.
Maybe a bit extreme. Bids will be public so let the council make the decision and let's move the eff on with this.

Ah yes... The council (and mayor) have handled this well up to this point let's just keep letting them stumble over them feet. SMH

Money (i.e. campaign contributions and support) have clouded and influenced this process way too much as it is. Selection should be independent of the politicians in this instance particularly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 30, 2017, 05:09:50 PM
it took me like, 30 minutes to figure out how to leave the MSP airport a couple weeks ago. 

I felt like I should already be downtown for how far it seemed like I walked to get on their light rail.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 30, 2017, 06:17:49 PM
Airport going out for bid to other private investors

A positive step in the right direction. Now the next step should be that the selection process is given to an independent commission or committee and taken out of the hands of elected politicians. This topic and project have become way too politicized amongst the city council (particularly for those with aspirations to run for mayor) for something this important and integral to KC's future.
Maybe a bit extreme. Bids will be public so let the council make the decision and let's move the eff on with this.

Ah yes... The council (and mayor) have handled this well up to this point let's just keep letting them stumble over them feet. SMH

Money (i.e. campaign contributions and support) have clouded and influenced this process way too much as it is. Selection should be independent of the politicians in this instance particularly.
:runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2017, 07:00:43 PM
If the kc city Council and mayor can be bought for 5 grand collectively every 5 years, surely gE can buy the mhk version for like $300 and get this damn lazy river built
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 30, 2017, 07:43:55 PM
How much to get the rocking chairs like other airports have?  I use those all the time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 30, 2017, 07:46:01 PM
How much to get the rocking chairs like other airports have?  I use those all the time.

Wrong side of Mason Dixon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 31, 2017, 02:30:39 AM
How much to get the rocking chairs like other airports have?  I use those all the time.
Umpires used to sit them as well.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 31, 2017, 05:09:45 AM
How much to get the rocking chairs like other airports have?  I use those all the time.

Wrong side of Mason Dixon


Philadelphia and Pittsburgh?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 31, 2017, 05:38:03 AM
If the kc city Council and mayor can be bought for 5 grand collectively every 5 years, surely gE can buy the mhk version for like $300 and get this damn lazy river built

I think you're overestimating both what it takes to buy small town politicians and this site's ability to do anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2017, 07:41:57 AM
If the kc city Council and mayor can be bought for 5 grand collectively every 5 years, surely gE can buy the mhk version for like $300 and get this damn lazy river built

I think you're overestimating both what it takes to buy small town politicians and this site's ability to do anything.

by small town, are you referring to kcmo?  because i'd agree that slying james can be had for much less than $5k
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 31, 2017, 08:03:34 AM
If the kc city Council and mayor can be bought for 5 grand collectively every 5 years, surely gE can buy the mhk version for like $300 and get this damn lazy river built

I think you're overestimating both what it takes to buy small town politicians and this site's ability to do anything.

by small town, are you referring to kcmo?  because i'd agree that slying james can be had for much less than $5k

Yes.  I've heard even some US reps can be had cheap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 31, 2017, 06:09:26 PM
Embarrassing how awesome Denver's transit is now. They have a train straight from Colby KS airport to downtown in like 30 mins
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on May 31, 2017, 06:16:16 PM
What?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 31, 2017, 06:16:32 PM
Embarrassing how awesome Denver's transit is now. They have a train straight from Colby KS airport to downtown in like 30 mins


It's very good.  They needed light rail badly, 30 years ago, even before the airport moved from downtown.  Let's see how KC is in 30 years.  I bet we some then!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2017, 06:30:01 PM
The crosswalk guys make me giggle tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2017, 06:30:26 PM
Embarrassing how awesome Denver's transit is now. They have a train straight from Colby KS airport to downtown in like 30 mins


It's very good.  They needed light rail badly, 30 years ago, even before the airport moved from downtown.  Let's see how KC is in 30 years.  I bet we some then!

very doubtful.
if slying james and his cronies have anything to do with the future of KCMO, the city will be bankrupt and the council and mayor's offices disbanded by the federal government who will be making all major decisions.
the dumbasses are dead set on keeping KCMO living in the stone age, as are guys like slying titola and belvis shulte and sly sly sly sly sly sly sly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 31, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
The crosswalk guys make me giggle tho

Yeah pretty hilar-ballz that they haven't figured that out yet
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2017, 08:08:08 PM
Embarrassing how awesome Denver's transit is now. They have a train straight from Colby KS airport to downtown in like 30 mins


It's very good.  They needed light rail badly, 30 years ago, even before the airport moved from downtown.  Let's see how KC is in 30 years.  I bet we some then!

very doubtful.
if slying james and his cronies have anything to do with the future of KCMO, the city will be bankrupt and the council and mayor's offices disbanded by the federal government who will be making all major decisions.
the dumbasses are dead set on keeping KCMO living in the stone age, as are guys like slying titola and belvis shulte and sly sly sly sly sly sly sly.

Okay Coffey clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 05, 2017, 12:08:37 PM
Delta is expanding their service in Boston; will have nonstop from MCI starting in September.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2017, 12:52:37 PM
i was told that would be impossible with our current terminal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on June 05, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Embarrassing how awesome Denver's transit is now. They have a train straight from Colby KS airport to downtown in like 30 mins

Hmm...why do you need rail along a route that has like no traffic whatsoever?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 05, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
i was told that would be impossible with our current terminal
By who?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2017, 01:53:10 PM
i was told that would be impossible with our current terminal
By who?

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 05, 2017, 02:51:41 PM
Embarrassing how awesome Denver's transit is now. They have a train straight from Colby KS airport to downtown in like 30 mins

Hmm...why do you need rail along a route that has like no traffic whatsoever?

Because when you're in Western KS you want to get away as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on June 06, 2017, 03:28:57 PM
Any comments on the latest developments with the Airport project Abe or Phil?

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article154489809.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article154489809.html)

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article154453359.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article154453359.html)

:popcorn:




Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 06, 2017, 03:33:09 PM
What are you mad about now?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on June 06, 2017, 03:53:03 PM
What are you mad about now?

Not mad... Just perplexed why the city thought this was the best way to move the airport project forward. They obviously knew better but decided to go this route anyway.

I mean, even as someone who supports a new single terminal, I question the optics and ethics involved with how this all has come about. I almost feel bad for B&M, but then I remember even they know better and could have advised the city to go with a traditional RFQ/P process (or at least asked the question).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 06, 2017, 04:02:02 PM
I'm starting to think cam is another edn sock
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 06, 2017, 05:25:02 PM
What are you mad about now?

Not mad... Just perplexed why the city thought this was the best way to move the airport project forward. They obviously knew better but decided to go this route anyway.

I mean, even as someone who supports a new single terminal, I question the optics and ethics involved with how this all has come about. I almost feel bad for B&M, but then I remember even they know better and could have advised the city to go with a traditional RFQ/P process (or at least asked the question).

this is SOP for kcmo's city government.  try to jam it through asap without doing the proper level of due diligence based upon the same scare tactics on every project, "the developers are going elsewhere", "costs are going to skyrocket if we don't start immediately", "yada yada yada".  they do it with every one of their pet projects while all of the pre-work is done with the transparency of vantablack.  they think they can scare people into making a "well, we don't have a choice, i guess it's better than nothing" decision.  seriously our city hall's iq can't exceed that of a junior high level, it's both funny and sad to watch them flop around the way they do.  but like i always say, their civic duty comes at the price of their private failure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 06, 2017, 08:12:23 PM
What are you mad about now?

Not mad... Just perplexed why the city thought this was the best way to move the airport project forward. They obviously knew better but decided to go this route anyway.

I mean, even as someone who supports a new single terminal, I question the optics and ethics involved with how this all has come about. I almost feel bad for B&M, but then I remember even they know better and could have advised the city to go with a traditional RFQ/P process (or at least asked the question).

this is SOP for kcmo's city government.  try to jam it through asap without doing the proper level of due diligence based upon the same scare tactics on every project, "the developers are going elsewhere", "costs are going to skyrocket if we don't start immediately", "yada yada yada".  they do it with every one of their pet projects while all of the pre-work is done with the transparency of vantablack.  they think they can scare people into making a "well, we don't have a choice, i guess it's better than nothing" decision.  seriously our city hall's iq can't exceed that of a junior high level, it's both funny and sad to watch them flop around the way they do.  but like i always say, their civic duty comes at the price of their private failure.

this is SOP for kcmo townie.  5 years of planning is "jam it through asap without doing the proper level of due diligence"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 06, 2017, 08:35:37 PM
let's see the official plans and cost estimates! and funding vehicles! and any other details beyond "new single terminal"!  oh they don't exist.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 06, 2017, 08:44:05 PM
let's see the official plans and cost estimates! and funding vehicles! and any other details beyond "new single terminal"!  oh they don't exist.
:ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AbeFroman on June 06, 2017, 09:23:33 PM
Any comments on the latest developments with the Airport project Abe or Phil?

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article154489809.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article154489809.html)

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article154453359.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article154453359.html)

:popcorn:
I don't really care about the airport because I rarely travel, so I defer to those that travel for work or vacation every other week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 06, 2017, 09:26:30 PM
I agree with Quinton here
https://www.facebook.com/quinton.lucas/posts/1464742476918357
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 06, 2017, 10:12:31 PM
Driving home I saw WC08 going for a jog. Figured i'd blog it ITT. He jogs with a hat on
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 06, 2017, 10:17:33 PM
Oh man. He better be posting in the shame yourself thread soon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 06, 2017, 10:17:44 PM
Can you describe the hat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 06, 2017, 10:20:47 PM
Hat was similar to this

(https://sep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-11545572856523/headsweats-race-hat-white-4.gif)

Had his ear buds in and was carrying his ipod shuffle in his hand
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 06, 2017, 10:36:30 PM
Hat was similar to this

(https://sep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-11545572856523/headsweats-race-hat-white-4.gif)

Had his ear buds in and was carrying his ipod shuffle in his hand
Hahaha I can picture it. Let him get an arm band for his shuffle mrs. wacky!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 07, 2017, 08:04:05 AM
Cf3 this is a poor look for you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2017, 08:16:28 AM
 :ROFL: Did you honk? I swear I heard a honk yesterday. It wasn't an ipod, it was my phone, and I was listening to Drake Pandora. Also, it was this hat:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/1NcAAOSwYSlXhPft/s-l300.jpg)

It's already super dirty from golfing so much this year.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2017, 08:20:39 AM
Also, I ran all the way to loose park yesterday from my house and back yesterday, so if it looked like I was dead, I definitely was half way there.

This is also why i'm going to stop saying no to happy hours during the week and blaming work for it. The kickball team wants to get together tonight at brookside and I told them I was out of town for work, because I hate turning ppl down and I want to stop boozing during the week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 07, 2017, 08:30:46 AM
Also, I ran all the way to loose park yesterday from my house and back yesterday, so if it looked like I was dead, I definitely was half way there.

This is also why i'm going to stop saying no to happy hours during the week and blaming work for it. The kickball team wants to get together tonight at brookside and I told them I was out of town for work, because I hate turning ppl down and I want to stop boozing during the week.

is this a drinking thing?  because it sounds like a joint account thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2017, 08:34:04 AM
Definitely a drinking thing. Trying to lose some wait and drink less. Don't get me started on join account stuff.  :curse: Every weekend we say we're going to take it easy, the next thing you know there's a pre baby shower on Friday night, a baby shower on Saturday, and now i'm supposed to go out with the guys (family) to the plaza to booze. I don't think she knows what a weekend in really is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 07, 2017, 08:49:56 AM
i would say, if you can afford it, keep going out doing fun weekend stuff, because she's gonna want that kid soon and once that happens you'll wish you could do that stuff more and won't be able too, unless you can get mrs wacky's parents to watch wacky jr every weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 07, 2017, 09:05:43 AM
Cf3 this is a poor look for you.

Its a poor look that I recognize my IRL friend WC08? I don't understand this hot take.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 07, 2017, 09:06:09 AM
Definitely a drinking thing. Trying to lose some wait and drink less. Don't get me started on join account stuff.  :curse: Every weekend we say we're going to take it easy, the next thing you know there's a pre baby shower on Friday night, a baby shower on Saturday, and now i'm supposed to go out with the guys (family) to the plaza to booze. I don't think she knows what a weekend in really is.

pre baby shower?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2017, 09:32:22 AM
Cf3 this is a poor look for you.

Its a poor look that I recognize my IRL friend WC08? I don't understand this hot take.

I would appreciate clarity on this as well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 07, 2017, 09:38:25 AM
Maybe the poor look is that I'm driving around in an air conditioned car like some fat american while WC is out burning calories and bettering himself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 07, 2017, 09:42:39 AM
how's the panda on state line at 79th street?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2017, 09:44:20 AM
Drive thru  :love:

Overall usually p good. I usually just get double string bean chicken tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 07, 2017, 09:50:36 AM
I've got a theory on the bad look.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 07, 2017, 09:51:38 AM
yeah i noticed the drive thru last week and  :love:
it's the closest panda to me and lately my stomach and hunger has been feeling the pull of the orient
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 07, 2017, 09:53:41 AM
I've got a theory on the bad look.

did i pick the wrong thread? should've been in GE Encounters?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 07, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
I've got a theory on the bad look.

did i pick the wrong thread? should've been in GE Encounters?
No. Neither of those.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 07, 2017, 10:03:19 AM
yeah i noticed the drive thru last week and  :love:
it's the closest panda to me and lately my stomach and hunger has been feeling the pull of the orient

rainbow china
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2017, 10:05:01 AM
Wow, that's a pretty big gap in coverage for panda
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2017, 10:05:14 AM
i would say, if you can afford it, keep going out doing fun weekend stuff, because she's gonna want that kid soon and once that happens you'll wish you could do that stuff more and won't be able too, unless you can get mrs wacky's parents to watch wacky jr every weekend.
Good advice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2017, 10:06:03 AM
Definitely a drinking thing. Trying to lose some wait and drink less. Don't get me started on join account stuff.  :curse: Every weekend we say we're going to take it easy, the next thing you know there's a pre baby shower on Friday night, a baby shower on Saturday, and now i'm supposed to go out with the guys (family) to the plaza to booze. I don't think she knows what a weekend in really is.

pre baby shower?
It's pretty much a party down in south KC with family. We've just been doing that non-stop lately. I guess I signed up for it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 07, 2017, 10:07:48 AM
she hasn't stopped drinking recently has she?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2017, 10:09:06 AM
Haha no.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 07, 2017, 10:10:01 AM
whew, keep going.  soon she'll want you to not drink while she's pregnant and can't either.  it's a simple race against the clock
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 07, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
whew, keep going.  soon she'll want you to not drink while she's pregnant and can't either.  it's a simple race against the clock

you should have this talk with her wacks, ask if you'll still be able to drink once she becomes pregnant, report back
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 07, 2017, 10:14:26 AM
WC, let me tell you from experience, the sympathy weight thing is real. Watch yourself once she is great with child. There's a lot of "Oh hey I'm tired and my back hurts, you want to just pick up some taco bell and watch TV tonight?" Then next thing you know you own XL shirts and they don't even fit. This happened IRL to me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 07, 2017, 10:15:31 AM
Hahaha do things for our entertainment, Wacky!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 07, 2017, 10:17:05 AM
WC will your mom make WC08 Jr. call the dog "Uncle Rover" or whatever that dog is named?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
WC, let me tell you from experience, the sympathy weight thing is real. Watch yourself once she is great with child. There's a lot of "Oh hey I'm tired and my back hurts, you want to just pick up some taco bell and watch TV tonight?" Then next thing you know you own XL shirts and they don't even fit. This happened IRL to me

This has happened to me and I don't even have a pregnant wife to blame it on  :angry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2017, 10:21:22 AM
WC will your mom make WC08 Jr. call the dog "Uncle Rover" or whatever that dog is named?
  :ROFL:

I got wedding weight fast because she was like: "We should go to the gym together tonight". Then we'll both have a giant hell hole of a day and then it's: "Maybe we should just pick up some wine and crackers from trader joes and work out extra hard tomorrow night after work?". Then it obviously never happens. Such a beautiful, vicious, lovely cycle. I still miss having pecks and a flat stomach tho.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on June 07, 2017, 10:21:55 AM
Definitely a drinking thing. Trying to lose some wait and drink less. Don't get me started on join account stuff.  :curse: Every weekend we say we're going to take it easy, the next thing you know there's a pre baby shower on Friday night, a baby shower on Saturday, and now i'm supposed to go out with the guys (family) to the plaza to booze. I don't think she knows what a weekend in really is.

:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on June 07, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
how's the panda on state line at 79th street?

Go there all the time, always solid
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 07, 2017, 10:26:19 AM
pecks  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 07, 2017, 10:27:41 AM
how do you abbreviate pecked orals, chodecat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2017, 10:29:56 AM
 :blush: pecs!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 07, 2017, 10:33:20 AM
how do you abbreviate pecked orals, chodecat?

BJ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 07, 2017, 01:22:22 PM
yeah i noticed the drive thru last week and  :love:
it's the closest panda to me and lately my stomach and hunger has been feeling the pull of the orient

rainbow china

Is it good?  I've ordered it 2-3 times and still can't decide whether I like it. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2017, 01:39:22 PM
yeah i noticed the drive thru last week and  :love:
it's the closest panda to me and lately my stomach and hunger has been feeling the pull of the orient

rainbow china

Is it good?  I've ordered it 2-3 times and still can't decide whether I like it.

Same, it's ok
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 11, 2017, 11:32:05 PM
Name another town with sundowns, 2 trees and a pond.  I'll wait.

https://twitter.com/kkwhb/status/874093835089039360
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 11, 2017, 11:39:54 PM
Name another town with sundowns, 2 trees and a pond.  I'll wait.

https://twitter.com/kkwhb/status/874093835089039360
Mods move to OP things thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on June 12, 2017, 06:26:14 AM
LMAO


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 14, 2017, 08:45:57 AM
Whataburger
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on June 14, 2017, 08:53:09 AM
 :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 14, 2017, 08:54:51 AM
awww yeah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2017, 08:57:08 AM
Loc deets?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 14, 2017, 08:59:36 AM
135th and metcalf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 14, 2017, 08:59:51 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2017, 09:02:06 AM
He said kc not Pittsburg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 14, 2017, 09:10:47 AM
one of my favorite kansas city things is when it sprinkles a little bit in the morning to sort of grease the pan, and then the stove gets turned up to about 97 to produce this fantastic steamed broccoli effect under your clothes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 14, 2017, 09:55:47 AM
Whataburger

i'll just stick with the sonic in westport tyvm
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on June 14, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
Whataburger

i'll just stick with the sonic in westport tyvm

I like Sonic, but it's the midwest Kroger brand Whataburger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2017, 10:29:29 AM
Name another town with sundowns, 2 trees and a pond.  I'll wait.

https://twitter.com/kkwhb/status/874093835089039360
Mods move to OP things thread
Lenexa things***

I used to fish in that lake/pond/water hazard all the time in grade school.  Some good size bass in there. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 14, 2017, 12:45:27 PM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mog1.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 16, 2017, 10:27:37 PM
Anyone mentioned Lifted Spirits distillery?  Went there for hh, not bad, not great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 16, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
Anyone mentioned Lifted Spirits distillery?  Went there for hh, not bad, not great.

I was actually pretty impressed by it vs. my expectations.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2017, 07:54:09 PM
boulevardia taps and tastes winners

Local division - torn label high Tai
Non-local divison - narrow gauge fallen flag
Food - tie 1889 Napoleon pizza / char bar burnt ends sausage combo
Experience - Got to meet kcfdcat!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2017, 09:42:32 AM
Burnt ends and sausage is God's gift to mankind
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 18, 2017, 11:29:13 AM
boulevardia taps and tastes winners

Local division - torn label high Tai
Non-local divison - narrow gauge fallen flag
Food - tie 1889 Napoleon pizza / char bar burnt ends sausage combo
Experience - Got to meet kcfdcat!!

Gus's fried chicken.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2017, 11:34:07 AM
Gus was good too...I burned my mouth due to impatience of waiting so they were unfairly downvoted in my mind.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
Good to meet you kcfdcat. That was one hot day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 18, 2017, 12:20:37 PM
my friend told me that the beer is donated for the taste and taps thing and that's how they get around liquor laws and are able to bring in beer that's not available in the state of missouri.  previously i had suggested that the beers are the same that can be found anywhere.  not true.  interesting 'noid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2017, 12:54:53 PM
I was wondering if those places paid to be there or were paid to be there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 18, 2017, 01:30:10 PM
Good to meet you kcfdcat. That was one hot day.
It was hot AF. Maybe the most unenjoyable beer fest I've been to.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 18, 2017, 01:32:13 PM
my friend told me that the beer is donated for the taste and taps thing and that's how they get around liquor laws and are able to bring in beer that's not available in the state of missouri.  previously i had suggested that the beers are the same that can be found anywhere.  not true.  interesting 'noid.

Yes in MO and KS, not sure of other states, beer poured at beer feats must be donated. I can't pay or be paid to attend.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2017, 01:49:22 PM
Good to meet you kcfdcat. That was one hot day.
It was hot AF. Maybe the most unenjoyable beer fest I've been to.

Seemed the layout was extra brutal for the vendors. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 18, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
Good to meet you kcfdcat. That was one hot day.
It was hot AF. Maybe the most unenjoyable beer fest I've been to.

Seemed the layout was extra brutal for the vendors.
Staring into the sun for the last two and a half hours was not ideal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2017, 04:44:27 PM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/a9673f090b13bc54c2adce9112017f3e.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 18, 2017, 04:52:52 PM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/a9673f090b13bc54c2adce9112017f3e.jpg)
That's the best bread! I keep meaning to take a pic of Paramore Artisan Coffee
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2017, 06:35:55 PM
(http://www.sherwoodcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/blues_bbq_poster_image.jpg)

if anyone is interested in going to this thing pm me, they give complimentary tickets to people that live in the area and i'm not going to use mine.  it was surprisingly popular last year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 20, 2017, 02:29:41 PM
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/877246680596459520
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on June 20, 2017, 02:50:39 PM
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/877246680596459520
$45 fares my ass. There will be $120 in fees on check out. These fuckers even charge a $40 fee to pay with a credit card. Literally a Kroger brand airline.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2017, 02:53:32 PM
my goodness mci, you're bringing in new directs despite lying james's best efforts to kill you, you old mule
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 20, 2017, 03:04:42 PM
whats on fire?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on June 20, 2017, 03:14:33 PM
whats on fire?

https://twitter.com/M_Ronnebaumer/status/877257387714990082
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 20, 2017, 03:18:47 PM
https://twitter.com/kctammy2009/status/877258962894290946
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2017, 03:23:30 PM
Insurance $
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2017, 04:10:31 PM
If that fire touches one hair on ponaks head, I'll disown fire forever!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2017, 04:17:48 PM
my goodness mci, you're bringing in new directs despite lying james's best efforts to kill you, you old mule
No doubt. Twice a week Walmart airline to Mesa, AZ. Keeping up with the wichitas of the world. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2017, 04:18:56 PM
If that fire touches one hair on ponaks head, I'll disown fire forever!
Good call. I don't need the Ponaks riff raff heading on down to Margs. We have a classier bunch over there and I'd like to keep it that way.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2017, 04:20:33 PM
If that fire touches one hair on ponaks head, I'll disown fire forever!
Good call. I don't need the Ponaks riff raff heading on down to Margs. We have a classier bunch over there and I'd like to keep it that way.  :thumbs:
You have to eat at jalapenos now wacky... T&Ps
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2017, 04:22:41 PM
Nope. Mrs. Wacky and I head down to margs a lot.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2017, 09:08:57 AM
See ya Hyatt. Hello Loews
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2017, 09:09:33 AM
Hopefully Loews won't accept such a dump design
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2017, 09:21:43 AM
Hopefully Loews won't accept such a dump design

i think this is good news regardless but yes, do not make Goodnow Hall in downtown kc please
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2017, 09:27:32 AM
Hopefully Loews won't accept such a dump design

i think this is good news regardless but yes, do not make Goodnow Hall in downtown kc please
Early rendering shows they made the building all glass. Same squatty shape though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 21, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
Hopefully Loews won't accept such a dump design

Well clearly hyatt didn't
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2017, 09:35:24 AM
Hopefully Loews won't accept such a dump design

i think this is good news regardless but yes, do not make Goodnow Hall in downtown kc please
Early rendering shows they made the building all glass. Same squatty shape though.

unfortunately, without a "save the plaza" like group to stop it, that's the future of downtown.  at least it will fit in w/ one & two light though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 21, 2017, 11:36:30 AM
Nope. Mrs. Wacky and I head down to margs a lot.  :gocho:

Wacky is slowing turning into my dad....Only a couple of years before he gets into bee keeping.

Thinks the whole state of Missouri is a crime ridden shithole? Check
Moved to KS Burbs to be "Safe"? Check
Loves Margaritas on SW? CHECK

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 21, 2017, 11:43:18 AM
 :D Your old man sounds awesome!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 22, 2017, 07:19:05 AM
Apparently the main st max is moving to Grand (downtown only).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2017, 08:11:56 AM
Apparently the main st max is moving to Grand (downtown only).

we talked about that, it's part of slying's streetcar expansion plan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 22, 2017, 08:15:50 AM
How is it related to the streetcar? I missed that discusso
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2017, 08:18:30 AM
streetcar expansion is planned for main street, i guess they don't want to be running the max up/down main during construction and beyond but what doesn't make sense is that it will only address less than a mile of the congestion which will occur

i don't know, it's in the expansion literature,  sly titola will know (obvs)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2017, 08:22:38 AM
Expand that sob  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 22, 2017, 08:23:11 AM
The max will still be on main south of crown center tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2017, 08:23:13 AM
How is it related to the streetcar? I missed that discusso
Partially due to streetcar running part of the same route but this is really to do with RideKC consolidating lines to fewer streets for ease of usability. Most NS downtown lines will run down grand and most EW lines will run 11th/12th. This will also eliminate the transit plaza at 10th and main and new transit plazas will sprout up but I can't remember those locations but around Barney Allis plaza, somewhere on the east side around 11th and also at 3rd and grand I believe as part of the reconstruction of that surface lot.

I think it's a good move for the MAX as it straightens it out and makes the timing more realiable. It's weaving through the central business district while handy for those further west, made it slow. 

When the streetcar ends up going to UMKC I could see the MAX moving off of main south of crown center. Not sure studies have been done on what route it would take but I'd guess gillham or Broadway?

My worry with moving all the routes to grand is how often Sprint center closes grand and will force multiple reroutes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2017, 08:27:16 AM
The max will still be on main south of crown center tho
I wouldn't expect the MAX to shift south of CC until the expansion is running. Too heavy of a used line.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2017, 08:40:41 AM
today's main st max users transitioning over to the expanded streetcar will keep Lance and Laura Leawood off of the expansion cars, looking forward to how slying james weeds out the unwanted and showcases this thing as the novelty that it really is (as he did with the downtown circle)


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Streetcar TDD ballot received!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2017, 08:28:57 PM
Streetcar TDD ballot received!
formality at this point
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 22, 2017, 08:42:20 PM
Streetcar TDD ballot received!

Samesiepoos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2017, 09:53:04 PM
Streetcar TDD ballot received!
formality at this point

Glad to have your vote 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 22, 2017, 09:54:21 PM
You go KCMO! Near Roanoke Southwest area.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/2c9bf4181f60c706efc43e18c722ac4f.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
like this person and the cats looked at each other and didn't know where to go??? Like mammal cats???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 22, 2017, 09:57:13 PM
Hahahaha don't make fun of my friend!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on June 22, 2017, 09:59:05 PM
Hahahaha don't make fun of my friend!

If you didn't want this to potentially happen why did you post it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2017, 10:03:05 PM
Hahahaha don't make fun of my friend!

just clarifying if he meant furry cats or cats like a jazz guy says.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 22, 2017, 10:03:18 PM
Meh. I don't mind it. I like her so that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 22, 2017, 10:04:11 PM
Hahahaha don't make fun of my friend!

just clarifying if he meant furry cats or cats like a jazz guy says.
Meow meow Cats. Bambou and Mona.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2017, 08:23:35 AM
https://twitter.com/huskersundevil/status/756473324084092929
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 23, 2017, 08:33:49 AM
Streetcar TDD ballot received!
formality at this point

Glad to have your vote 'clams

already moved on
hoping that when dan coffey gets to office he a) stops construction in its tracks b)removes existing tracks

the good news is that slying james was such a paper tiger that his reign of destruction will be relatively easy to fix with the exception of tax breaks that go to the next millennium

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on June 23, 2017, 09:53:26 AM
Does Dan rock a Make KC Great Again hat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 23, 2017, 10:41:32 AM
Streetcar TDD ballot received!
formality at this point

Glad to have your vote 'clams

already moved on
hoping that when dan coffey gets to office he a) stops construction in its tracks b)removes existing tracks

the good news is that slying james was such a paper tiger that his reign of destruction will be relatively easy to fix with the exception of tax breaks that go to the next millennium



when you said reign of destruction you meant reign of construction right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2017, 10:43:58 AM
Reign of progression  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2017, 03:32:49 PM
Some tax breaks are already ending and filling up the coffers! :Excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 23, 2017, 04:09:25 PM
http://fox4kc.com/2017/06/22/gang-targeting-women-at-johnson-county-pools-and-dog-parks/ (http://fox4kc.com/2017/06/22/gang-targeting-women-at-johnson-county-pools-and-dog-parks/)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 23, 2017, 04:09:43 PM
https://twitter.com/huskersundevil/status/756473324084092929

so easy though! other airports are hard!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 25, 2017, 08:08:47 PM
Apparently someone died at the bike race in the crossroads today


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 26, 2017, 07:31:52 AM
http://amp.kansascity.com/news/business/article157963549.html (http://amp.kansascity.com/news/business/article157963549.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2017, 08:12:07 AM
Quote
“There’s no question we had a rocky start to this,” Justus said.

it's because you're all rough ridin' amateurs

Quote
Schulte said if the city can’t move ahead soon with a new terminal, it would likely resort to some type of renovation. That’s assuming the airlines would agree to it, but they’ve said they won’t.

what a beta


anyone who can't see that this city is being run by the ringling brothers clown show is seriously blind
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 26, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
https://twitter.com/KCTV5/status/879374507319992320
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on June 26, 2017, 02:41:21 PM
Quote
“There’s no question we had a rocky start to this,” Justus said.

it's because you're all rough ridin' amateurs

Quote
Schulte said if the city can’t move ahead soon with a new terminal, it would likely resort to some type of renovation. That’s assuming the airlines would agree to it, but they’ve said they won’t.

what a beta


anyone who can't see that this city is being run by the ringling brothers clown show is seriously blind

What a coincidence that Jolie Justus and Mike Tallboy (Director of Government Affairs at B&M) are good friends from their time in Jeff City!

Schulte should absolutely lose his job over the debacle and circus the rollout and selection process has devolved into. So small-time and embarrassing for this city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 26, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
I can say with complete certainty that MCI is the only airport that experiences long lines at security sometimes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 26, 2017, 03:01:45 PM
^ just never when most of us fly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2017, 03:23:08 PM
Quote
“There’s no question we had a rocky start to this,” Justus said.

it's because you're all rough ridin' amateurs

Quote
Schulte said if the city can’t move ahead soon with a new terminal, it would likely resort to some type of renovation. That’s assuming the airlines would agree to it, but they’ve said they won’t.

what a beta


anyone who can't see that this city is being run by the ringling brothers clown show is seriously blind

What a coincidence that Jolie Justus and Mike Tallboy (Director of Government Affairs at B&M) are good friends from their time in Jeff City!

Schulte should absolutely lose his job over the debacle and circus the rollout and selection process has devolved into. So small-time and embarrassing for this city.
Oh you mean the process that has never been done for a major airport in the country? Yeah what a bewb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on June 26, 2017, 04:24:23 PM
Quote
“There’s no question we had a rocky start to this,” Justus said.

it's because you're all rough ridin' amateurs

Quote
Schulte said if the city can’t move ahead soon with a new terminal, it would likely resort to some type of renovation. That’s assuming the airlines would agree to it, but they’ve said they won’t.

what a beta


anyone who can't see that this city is being run by the ringling brothers clown show is seriously blind

What a coincidence that Jolie Justus and Mike Tallboy (Director of Government Affairs at B&M) are good friends from their time in Jeff City!

Schulte should absolutely lose his job over the debacle and circus the rollout and selection process has devolved into. So small-time and embarrassing for this city.
Oh you mean the process that has never been done for a major airport in the country? Yeah what a bewb

With good reason, Phil! Public projects go out to RFQ/P to get the best ideas out of competition... Not to mention that it is that way so that there is some semblance of a fair and even playing field. Corruption and wheel greasing just seem to be the KC-way tho  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2017, 04:46:15 PM
Yeah this process did too. There was not the financial risk to the city with this the b&m proposal which is why initially going out for RFP wasn't a huge deal (the deal was already within the financial agreed terms with the airlines)...but once multiple companies expressed interest the city asked for proposals.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on June 26, 2017, 04:59:06 PM
Yeah this process did too. There was not the financial risk to the city with this the b&m proposal which is why initially going out for RFP wasn't a huge deal (the deal was already within the financial agreed terms with the airlines)...but once multiple companies expressed interest the city asked for proposals.

You act like that was the plan all along... Which isn't the case. The selection was opened up only after questions of legality and ethics were raised by those in the media (and after one company large enough to not fear retribution from B&M expressed interest). And let's not forget that city officials tried to give B&M right of first refusal and a RFQ window of three weeks, which they had to backpedal on as well.

It's been a shitshow from the beginning and Schulte should absolutely lose his job over it. Your blatant and blind defense of the city is almost starting to sound like dax and the other knuckle-draggers unwavering support of trump and the gop.  :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2017, 05:03:28 PM
Schulte will be gone soon enough. I'm not a fan of his on most things. I do agree he was in over his head on this deal but it wasn't something common or done before so I do cut him some slack in that respect.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2017, 07:53:26 AM
Two additional streetcars getting ordered in the next week...the TDD is doing so well it has excess funds to buy them. This will do two things....more spares for proper maintenance that wasn't anticipated with double the estimated riders per day...and increase frequency when needed. Will be able to easily go to 4 and even 5 care on the line.

Not to mention this helps get a jump start on trains needed for expansion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 28, 2017, 08:03:08 AM
Two additional streetcars getting ordered in the next week...the TDD is doing so well it has excess funds to buy them. This will do two things....more spares for proper maintenance that wasn't anticipated with double the estimated riders per day...and increase frequency when needed. Will be able to easily go to 4 and even 5 care on the line.

Not to mention this helps get a jump start on trains needed for expansion.
The ability to have 4 cars on the track on a regular basis will make a huge difference in the overall usability. Hopefully will keep wait times to less than 10 min!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 08:36:10 AM
Holy crap, people have been waiting longer than 10 minutes to ride these things? You can walk downtown in that time.  :blank:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 08:36:48 AM
Holy crap, people have been waiting longer than 10 minutes to ride these things? You can walk downtown in that time.  :blank:

The streetcar comes every 10 mins
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 08:38:01 AM
It takes 10 minutes to talk from cosentinos to up/down. No wonder why we're one of Americas fattest cities. SMDH.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2017, 08:45:32 AM
It takes 10 minutes to talk from cosentinos to up/down. No wonder why we're one of Americas fattest cities. SMDH.
Do we have to do the same discussion every time? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 08:49:22 AM
I think we've had it once, but without the wait time. Add in constant stopping and this thing is worthless.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2017, 08:50:34 AM
Yes we all know your 'clams instructed talking points on this matter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 08:52:23 AM
Yes we all know your 'clams instructed talking points on this matter.
'clams hasn't instructed anything. I lived downtown when this massive POS was being built. It also looks like a hot box with the amount of people who are in it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 28, 2017, 08:57:52 AM
Takes longer than 10 minutes to walk from Union Station to City Market. 

Little WNK loves riding the Street Car.  We'll park at Union Station and ride it up to City Market for breakfast, then ride it back and check out the model trains at Union Station.  It is fantastic when City Market is crowded with shoppers on the weekends. 

Also, I've been on the Street Car a couple times on Sunday mornings and very surprised how busy it is.   

Good job KC. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:04:47 AM
The river market being busy is by far the worst part about the river market. Wait in line for the spice guy and it takes up to 30 minutes. I guarantee lil wnk is not a fan of that. You can however do that  venture in a 5 minute car ride from spot to spot. Maybe save the lil dude the hassle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 28, 2017, 09:13:38 AM
Yes we all know your 'clams instructed talking points on this matter.

This had me laughing so hard. Sorry, Wacks. :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 09:14:51 AM
Too many people downtown! :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 28, 2017, 09:15:30 AM
Also, its beginning to look a like to KC will have it's very own personal Je...SdK!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:20:25 AM
Yes we all know your 'clams instructed talking points on this matter.

This had me laughing so hard. Sorry, Wacks. :)
No reason to be sorry. Phil hates it when people disagree with him. Hates it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:21:50 AM
Mocat, where do you live in KC? YOu seem like a NKC type of guy to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 09:22:51 AM
Mocat, where do you live in KC? YOu seem like a NKC type of guy to me.

Wow that is the worst thing anyone has said to me in quite a while. You doing ok today?
I've said countless times I live in midtown/westport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 28, 2017, 09:24:36 AM
relax mocat, it's wednesday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:25:29 AM
Sheesh, calm down mocat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2017, 09:28:22 AM
Yes we all know your 'clams instructed talking points on this matter.

This had me laughing so hard. Sorry, Wacks. :)
No reason to be sorry. Phil hates it when people disagree with him. Hates it!
I'm a fan of healthy debate. Not recycled "I can walk it so why would anybody need it" narrow focused talking points.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 09:29:16 AM
I have been to mansion de mocat, it's in Westport/midtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 09:31:34 AM
Yes we all know your 'clams instructed talking points on this matter.

This had me laughing so hard. Sorry, Wacks. :)
No reason to be sorry. Phil hates it when people disagree with him. Hates it!
I'm a fan of healthy debate. Not recycled "I can walk it so why would anybody need it" narrow focused talking points.

Iirc from the brain thread, this is why your brain is a dojo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 09:33:28 AM
Wackycat08, do you walk to work?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:33:54 AM
Just your usual chodecat, libnabler, & phil(i'm an elite KC'r)circle jerk up in this bitch. Nothing to see here.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2017, 09:36:40 AM
So angry
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:37:23 AM
Yes we all know your 'clams instructed talking points on this matter.

This had me laughing so hard. Sorry, Wacks. :)
No reason to be sorry. Phil hates it when people disagree with him. Hates it!
I'm a fan of healthy debate. Not recycled "I can walk it so why would anybody need it" narrow focused talking points.
How many recycled discussions have you brought on when it comes to the airport? You're half the reason this thread is unreadable.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 09:39:26 AM
What does libnabler mean?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:40:23 AM
Phil, serious question and don't give a BS answer just to make your argument look better. Has your rent went up downtown since the streetcar was implemented?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:46:07 AM
Our crap hole was going up $100 a month after the streetcar went in at quality hill. For a shitty machine that only travels 2 miles, that I never use, it seems pretty mumped up tenants have to feel it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 09:52:04 AM
Streetcars.....how far has your rent went up because of one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 09:55:53 AM
Chodecat, you don't live downtown, so sit this one out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 28, 2017, 09:56:30 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 28, 2017, 09:57:21 AM
i can see the streetcar from my apartment and rent was going to increase by 27% if i chose to renew at the end of july
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 10:00:25 AM
Chodecat, you don't live downtown, so sit this one out.
I work downtown and take the streetcar to the crossroads or river market sometimes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:01:04 AM
But it never affected your rent, right? Cool!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2017, 10:05:28 AM
Takes longer than 10 minutes to walk from Union Station to City Market. 

Little WNK loves riding the Street Car.  We'll park at Union Station and ride it up to City Market for breakfast, then ride it back and check out the model trains at Union Station.  It is fantastic when City Market is crowded with shoppers on the weekends. 

Also, I've been on the Street Car a couple times on Sunday mornings and very surprised how busy it is.   

Good job KC. 

thank you for such a great description. 
few supporters have the stones to acknowledge that this thing is the novelty that it is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 10:08:47 AM
What does libnabler mean?

 :impatient:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:09:04 AM
Takes longer than 10 minutes to walk from Union Station to City Market. 

Little WNK loves riding the Street Car.  We'll park at Union Station and ride it up to City Market for breakfast, then ride it back and check out the model trains at Union Station.  It is fantastic when City Market is crowded with shoppers on the weekends. 

Also, I've been on the Street Car a couple times on Sunday mornings and very surprised how busy it is.   

Good job KC. 

thank you for such a great description. 
few supporters have the stones to acknowledge that this thing is the novelty that it is.
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 28, 2017, 10:09:47 AM
Young professionals living in the city complaining about gentrification :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on June 28, 2017, 10:12:03 AM
Our crap hole was going up $100 a month after the streetcar went in at quality hill. For a shitty machine that only travels 2 miles, that I never use, it seems pretty mumped up tenants have to feel it.

That's because the tenants got to vote on it while the property owners were left to foot the bill. How do you not understand this? Also, if you can't see the progress that the street car has driven from the river through midtown you're as dumb as well thought. Maybe even dumber?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:15:28 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 10:17:46 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on June 28, 2017, 10:18:07 AM
It's not the street car's fault that you can't afford to live in a mid-tier quality hill rental. Is it? Complaining about rent levels in KC is very dumb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:21:25 AM
It's not the street car's fault that you can't afford to live in a mid-tier quality hill rental. Is it? Complaining about rent levels in KC is very dumb.
I could afford it, dumbass. Don't make it personal. I don't think anyone likes it when rent goes up for something they don't give two shits about and/or is useless.
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?
Depends, how much is it going to cost us? I'll probably be on the KS side, CO, or by the coast by the time that ever happens. So sure, pay for it for me and i'll check it out.  :thumbs: :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 28, 2017, 10:22:19 AM
what a morning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 10:22:28 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?

He'll be in Southern Olathe with 4 kids at that point
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:23:13 AM
You'll still be HAF bitching about food, sitting on your couch.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 10:23:40 AM
I certainly hope so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:24:29 AM
I forgot to add still fat and single.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 10:25:13 AM
Living the good life  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:28:56 AM
Living the good life  :gocho:
Says the guy who earholes a stranger about how long it's been since he's been laid.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 28, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
Come on Wacky. Jesus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2017, 10:30:05 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?

don't be mistaken, the UMKC expansion will be the nail in the coffin that this expansion effort needs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 10:33:51 AM
It's not the street car's fault that you can't afford to live in a mid-tier quality hill rental. Is it? Complaining about rent levels in KC is very dumb.
I could afford it, dumbass. Don't make it personal. I don't think anyone likes it when rent goes up for something they don't give two shits about and/or is useless.
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?
Depends, how much is it going to cost us? I'll probably be on the KS side, CO, or by the coast by the time that ever happens. So sure, pay for it for me and i'll check it out.  :thumbs: :D

A couple things bud.

Most of the complaints you or clams posts about the streetcar are valid, but as a KC guy I'm just glad the city tried something you know? I mean, they basically had the attitude that downtown did not matter from 1960ish-1999 give or take a few years. So yes, its overpriced and kind of a novelty, but for a city our size its a great start and a way to get more people in the city. So what if Janie Lenexa and Jackie Olathe use it as a novelty to go to the city market on Sundays? At least they're spending money in KCMO and not at Bass Pro.

And to point out the street car as the reason your rent changed is insane. Ask someone who owns a building in the crossroads or anywhere in the downtown area what it was worth in 2000 vs now. The entire area has gone up in value drastically and to point to one factor as the reason for your rent increase is foolish. Come on man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 10:34:36 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?

don't be mistaken, the UMKC expansion will be the nail in the coffin that this expansion effort needs

maybe so. maybe its a waste of money bridge to no where, but I'm going to root for it to work and be successful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:34:56 AM
Come on Wacky. Jesus.
The libnabler strikes daily, but how dare you strike back. Nah man, he's had it coming. I don't feel bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2017, 10:39:44 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?

don't be mistaken, the UMKC expansion will be the nail in the coffin that this expansion effort needs

maybe so. maybe its a waste of money bridge to no where, but I'm going to root for it to work and be successful.

it's about competing priorities
if we lived in mountain view, i'd feel differently
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:41:37 AM
It's not the street car's fault that you can't afford to live in a mid-tier quality hill rental. Is it? Complaining about rent levels in KC is very dumb.
I could afford it, dumbass. Don't make it personal. I don't think anyone likes it when rent goes up for something they don't give two shits about and/or is useless.
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?
Depends, how much is it going to cost us? I'll probably be on the KS side, CO, or by the coast by the time that ever happens. So sure, pay for it for me and i'll check it out.  :thumbs: :D

A couple things bud.

Most of the complaints you or clams posts about the streetcar are valid, but as a KC guy I'm just glad the city tried something you know? I mean, they basically had the attitude that downtown did not matter from 1960ish-1999 give or take a few years. So yes, its overpriced and kind of a novelty, but for a city our size its a great start and a way to get more people in the city. So what if Janie Lenexa and Jackie Olathe use it as a novelty to go to the city market on Sundays? At least they're spending money in KCMO and not at Bass Pro.

And to point out the street car as the reason your rent changed is insane. Ask someone who owns a building in the crossroads or anywhere in the downtown area what it was worth in 2000 vs now. The entire area has gone up in value drastically and to point to one factor as the reason for your rent increase is foolish. Come on man.
All valid points, but I do have a letter from quality hill stating how it did impact the increase. Obviously other things as well, but it was a bullet point for sure. I mean, rent is still the same where I live now. I just was over hearing drunks on Monday nights hitting my window and stripping around street signs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 10:44:21 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?

don't be mistaken, the UMKC expansion will be the nail in the coffin that this expansion effort needs

maybe so. maybe its a waste of money bridge to no where, but I'm going to root for it to work and be successful.

it's about competing priorities
if we lived in mountain view, i'd feel differently

I don't think this detracts from from any other priorities. The added tax revenue from the novelty crowd is probably a positive for other priorities
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 10:45:06 AM
You know wacky knows he's wrong when he goes with the personal attacks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 10:46:01 AM
But it never affected your rent, right? Cool!

Well my rent went up after the streetcar opened but I doubt it was related
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 10:46:34 AM
You know wacky knows he's wrong when he goes with the personal attacks
You and lib must be wrong 24/7/365 on here then.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 28, 2017, 10:48:16 AM
Come on Wacky. Jesus.
The libnabler strikes daily, but how dare you strike back. Nah man, he's had it coming. I don't feel bad.
The mention of you potentially being a father and living in a suburb warranted all of that? I think you'll find that your day won't be any better having personally attacked someone. If anything, made worse by being unnecessarily mean and letting anger into your head and heart.

Take some deep breaths. Apologize to yourself for being overcome with anger. Forgive yourself. Think of something beautiful. Have a great rest of your day.

:cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on June 28, 2017, 10:49:38 AM
Just suggestions. Be well, friend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on June 28, 2017, 10:51:04 AM
It's not the street car's fault that you can't afford to live in a mid-tier quality hill rental. Is it? Complaining about rent levels in KC is very dumb.
I could afford it, dumbass. Don't make it personal. I don't think anyone likes it when rent goes up for something they don't give two shits about and/or is useless.
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?
Depends, how much is it going to cost us? I'll probably be on the KS side, CO, or by the coast by the time that ever happens. So sure, pay for it for me and i'll check it out.  :thumbs: :D

A couple things bud.

Most of the complaints you or clams posts about the streetcar are valid, but as a KC guy I'm just glad the city tried something you know? I mean, they basically had the attitude that downtown did not matter from 1960ish-1999 give or take a few years. So yes, its overpriced and kind of a novelty, but for a city our size its a great start and a way to get more people in the city. So what if Janie Lenexa and Jackie Olathe use it as a novelty to go to the city market on Sundays? At least they're spending money in KCMO and not at Bass Pro.

And to point out the street car as the reason your rent changed is insane. Ask someone who owns a building in the crossroads or anywhere in the downtown area what it was worth in 2000 vs now. The entire area has gone up in value drastically and to point to one factor as the reason for your rent increase is foolish. Come on man.
All valid points, but I do have a letter from quality hill stating how it did impact the increase. Obviously other things as well, but it was a bullet point for sure. I mean, rent is still the same where I live now. I just was over hearing drunks on Monday nights hitting my window and stripping around street signs.

Then, like, why did you choose to live there in the first place? "hmm...i hate noise and drunk people but I should live on one of the city's busiest streets next door to a dive bar."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 10:52:23 AM
Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the state line this morning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 28, 2017, 10:57:07 AM
Is it a KC thing that rent prices don't increase just because time has moved forward and cost of living increases?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 28, 2017, 11:00:01 AM
Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the state line this morning

sounds like you've been libnabled
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 11:00:30 AM
Is it a KC thing that rent prices don't increase just because time has moved forward and cost of living increases?

The last 3 places I've been at (small family owned rentals not huge companies) have told me that rent will not increase as long as I stay
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 28, 2017, 11:03:19 AM
Is it a KC thing that rent prices don't increase just because time has moved forward and cost of living increases?

The last 3 places I've been at (small family owned rentals not huge companies) have told me that rent will not increase as long as I stay

That's wild.  You should stay in your current one forever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 11:04:06 AM
Mine went up tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 28, 2017, 11:06:33 AM
could be worse wacks, my property taxes keep going up and i don't even get a damn streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 28, 2017, 11:06:51 AM
Mine went up tho

Sounds like you live in america.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 28, 2017, 11:07:35 AM
i don't know who's pocketing all this money :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?

don't be mistaken, the UMKC expansion will be the nail in the coffin that this expansion effort needs

maybe so. maybe its a waste of money bridge to no where, but I'm going to root for it to work and be successful.

it's about competing priorities
if we lived in mountain view, i'd feel differently

I don't think this detracts from from any other priorities. The added tax revenue from the novelty crowd is probably a positive for other priorities
the fault in your premise is assigning all new value downtown to the streetcar and ignoring the tif funding (empty tax rates) along the lines. maybe the downtown plan was so poor that it wouldn't be a success without the toy train but i wouldn't be surprised if kcpd or kcps would like the tax dollars currently supporting the shuttling of schiela shawnee b/w 14th and crown center.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 28, 2017, 11:08:50 AM
^ the homeless on food stamps
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 11:14:03 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?

don't be mistaken, the UMKC expansion will be the nail in the coffin that this expansion effort needs

maybe so. maybe its a waste of money bridge to no where, but I'm going to root for it to work and be successful.

it's about competing priorities
if we lived in mountain view, i'd feel differently

I don't think this detracts from from any other priorities. The added tax revenue from the novelty crowd is probably a positive for other priorities
the fault in your premise is assigning all new value downtown to the streetcar and ignoring the tif funding (empty tax rates) along the lines. maybe the downtown plan was so poor that it wouldn't be a success without the toy train but i wouldn't be surprised if kcpd or kcps would like the tax dollars currently supporting the shuttling of schiela shawnee b/w 14th and crown center.

Not a single person is saying downtown is growing only because of the streetcar, but it is a positive factor.

I'm sure kcpd is happy they are receiving the earnings tax from the thousands of new downtown residents (and thousands more planned)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 11:14:37 AM
It's not the street car's fault that you can't afford to live in a mid-tier quality hill rental. Is it? Complaining about rent levels in KC is very dumb.
I could afford it, dumbass. Don't make it personal. I don't think anyone likes it when rent goes up for something they don't give two shits about and/or is useless.
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?
Depends, how much is it going to cost us? I'll probably be on the KS side, CO, or by the coast by the time that ever happens. So sure, pay for it for me and i'll check it out.  :thumbs: :D

A couple things bud.

Most of the complaints you or clams posts about the streetcar are valid, but as a KC guy I'm just glad the city tried something you know? I mean, they basically had the attitude that downtown did not matter from 1960ish-1999 give or take a few years. So yes, its overpriced and kind of a novelty, but for a city our size its a great start and a way to get more people in the city. So what if Janie Lenexa and Jackie Olathe use it as a novelty to go to the city market on Sundays? At least they're spending money in KCMO and not at Bass Pro.

And to point out the street car as the reason your rent changed is insane. Ask someone who owns a building in the crossroads or anywhere in the downtown area what it was worth in 2000 vs now. The entire area has gone up in value drastically and to point to one factor as the reason for your rent increase is foolish. Come on man.
All valid points, but I do have a letter from quality hill stating how it did impact the increase. Obviously other things as well, but it was a bullet point for sure. I mean, rent is still the same where I live now. I just was over hearing drunks on Monday nights hitting my window and stripping around street signs.

Then, like, why did you choose to live there in the first place? "hmm...i hate noise and drunk people but I should live on one of the city's busiest streets next door to a dive bar."
I moved in with Mrs. Wacky. It doesn't matter tho. Before she lived there, she lived on the 12th floor of Baltimore. There I just woke up to this crap http://www.kctv5.com/story/24106086/pd-officer-killing-firefighter-celebrating-wedding
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 11:14:55 AM
Some people just can't handle the success of the streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 11:17:26 AM
WC you just can't expect to live in an entertainment and business district and enjoy a nice quiet street where nothing happens.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 11:20:39 AM
WC you just can't expect to live in an entertainment and business district and enjoy a nice quiet street where nothing happens.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/11uV3l0wNmMIr6/200.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on June 28, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
i don't know who's pocketing all this money :curse:

Pretty obvious the streetcar is lining their pockets with this money.  It's nothing more than a crime syndicate targeting landlords citywide who pass the cost of the shakedowns to their tennants in the form of a "rent increase".
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 11:24:54 AM
Some ppl just can't handle facts.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SPEmaw on June 28, 2017, 11:25:53 AM
Big Street Car!  :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 11:29:59 AM
Tell us again how magical this 2 mile street car ride was.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/3b/9a/d83b9ad07a24fd6a7ef0a4a870db8dee--symbols-emoticons-emoji-emoticons.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 28, 2017, 11:35:18 AM
Tell us again how magical this 2 mile street car ride was.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/3b/9a/d83b9ad07a24fd6a7ef0a4a870db8dee--symbols-emoticons-emoji-emoticons.jpg)

It was so great!  I love living in JOCO and being able to enjoy the crazy city life via streetcar!  Such a magical time to be in Kansas City!  I hope they extend it all over!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2017, 11:45:54 AM
Where did I ever say I never understood the situation? Also, that area was doing just fine before the streetcar. Stop acting like a 2 mile traveling machine has uplifted downtown from nothing to thriving. SMDH.

WC will you feel different in a few years if it goes out to UMKC and starts to expand all over KCMO?

don't be mistaken, the UMKC expansion will be the nail in the coffin that this expansion effort needs

maybe so. maybe its a waste of money bridge to no where, but I'm going to root for it to work and be successful.

it's about competing priorities
if we lived in mountain view, i'd feel differently

I don't think this detracts from from any other priorities. The added tax revenue from the novelty crowd is probably a positive for other priorities
the fault in your premise is assigning all new value downtown to the streetcar and ignoring the tif funding (empty tax rates) along the lines. maybe the downtown plan was so poor that it wouldn't be a success without the toy train but i wouldn't be surprised if kcpd or kcps would like the tax dollars currently supporting the shuttling of schiela shawnee b/w 14th and crown center.

Not a single person is saying downtown is growing only because of the streetcar, but it is a positive factor.

I'm sure kcpd is happy they are receiving the earnings tax from the thousands of new downtown residents (and thousands more planned)
i'm sure that they'd also like the money diverted to supporting the needless streetcar to help police the thousands  (your number is extremely exaggerated) of new downtown residents who live their regardless of a needless streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 11:53:52 AM
Have there been police funding initiatives turned down recently? I would fully support any tax increase they need. Not sure how that is related to the streetcar though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 11:59:28 AM
Tell us again how magical this 2 mile street car ride was.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/3b/9a/d83b9ad07a24fd6a7ef0a4a870db8dee--symbols-emoticons-emoji-emoticons.jpg)

I agree it will be much better when it is extended
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 12:04:20 PM
I'll probably ride it up to my buddy mocat's Westport/midtown mansion
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2017, 12:08:58 PM
I don't think brookside will ok it going through their mansionland
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 12:09:26 PM
Once they build a new Royals K in the East Bottoms the streetcar will be a great way to get to and from the park for midtown mocat and lenny lenexa alike.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 12:09:50 PM
Imagine starting a night at the faloon with 'clams, ride the toy train up to hopcat for a chat with mocat, then another toy train ride to meet up with Titola for dollar beers at bar louie  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 12:10:11 PM
I don't think brookside will ok it going through their mansionland

you could wind it around to have the pick up at 63rd and troost!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Imagine starting a night at the faloon with 'clams, ride the toy train up to hopcat for a chat with mocat, then another toy train ride to meet up with Titola for dollar beers at bar louie  :love:

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on June 28, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
Just read the last few pages,

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2017, 12:19:51 PM
Wow...that escalated. To answer wacky question from pages ago...I own...and my property taxes went up specifically for the streetcar. Just as they did when the CID was formed and when we voted for other tax increases since I've lived in my place over a decade. I gladly pay them as I see the value.

Clams blaming TIF for streetcar funding is just laughable.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on June 28, 2017, 12:22:11 PM
Phil, do our fellow KC family members take the SCoD to work?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 28, 2017, 12:32:36 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 01:38:14 PM
https://wallethub.com/edu/best-beach-towns-to-live-in/36567/

#20- Olathe, KS :eye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 01:42:59 PM
https://wallethub.com/edu/best-beach-towns-to-live-in/36567/

#20- Olathe, KS :eye:

hard to argue with this person's method
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 01:52:56 PM
Sounds like a great place to raise 4 kids
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 28, 2017, 02:00:43 PM
Eudora gonna Eudora. Graduating classmate of mine.  :frown:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/35753235/father-mourns-loss-of-son-who-was-killed-in-eudora-shooting#.WVHMWljCXxI.facebook
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 29, 2017, 08:02:02 PM
 :lol:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/35783134/kansas-city-to-purchase-two-more-streetcars-for-119-million#.WVV03x9D05M.twitter
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 08:41:06 PM
Jesus!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 08:42:56 PM
Bend over MOCAT peeps.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 08:45:08 PM
Why would I bend over? Are they taking more of money? :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 08:46:44 PM
Why would I bend over? Are they taking more of money? :confused:
My* :D Probably
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2017, 08:48:56 PM
Quote
The purchase will use existing downtown Transportation Development District, or TDD, funds, resulting from higher than anticipated sales tax growth within the district and stabilized operations expenses.

Suck on that chodecat ROFL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 08:50:34 PM
Quote
The purchase will use existing downtown Transportation Development District, or TDD, funds, resulting from higher than anticipated sales tax growth within the district and stabilized operations expenses.

Suck on that chodecat ROFL

Oh, so they're paying for it with sales tax spurred in part by the streetcar? That's weird because wacky said they were going to take it from me, Joe taxpayer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 08:51:59 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 08:55:23 PM
Also, lol at local dems thinking expansion doesn't sneak up on the tax takeout from their paycheck. If you're all as elite as you say you are, you haven't looked at a pay stub since college.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 29, 2017, 08:57:05 PM
Link?

literally the link posted gives you this info:
Quote
The purchase will use existing downtown Transportation Development District, or TDD, funds, resulting from higher than anticipated sales tax growth within the district and stabilized operations expenses.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 29, 2017, 08:57:45 PM
Also, lol at local dems thinking expansion doesn't sneak up on the tax takeout from their paycheck. If you're all as elite as you say you are, you haven't looked at a pay stub since college.

was kickball tonight?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 09:01:34 PM
Also, lol at local dems thinking expansion doesn't sneak up on the tax takeout from their paycheck. If you're all as elite as you say you are, you haven't looked at a pay stub since college.

was kickball tonight?
No, I'm clean, but I can confirm growth in KC is underneath taxes. You believe all the crap the media throws on Trump, but ignore 'clams updates on how shitty sly is. Not surprised.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 09:04:19 PM
Wacky, bud, you just be you and don't worry about facts or asinine details
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 09:09:39 PM
You guys seriously think the economy has grown that much from a 2 mile streetcar? Holy crap, guys!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 29, 2017, 09:11:29 PM
quality hill lied to you, wacks :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 09:15:27 PM
quality hill lied to you, wacks :frown:


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 29, 2017, 09:25:33 PM
You guys seriously think the economy has grown that much from a 2 mile streetcar? Holy crap, guys!

It's not that the "economy" in KC has grown in leaps and bounds above anticipated....it's a combination of the financing plan being VERY conservative and property coming online faster than anticipated which has increased the property tax paid into the streetcar fund.  This (value capture) was a huge piece of the streetcar proposition.  For example, that new Residence Inn/Courtyard next to Bartle Hall....in 2016 the taxable value of that property was $308,768.  This year?  $11,413,518.  That will move their streetcar tax payment from $1k to over $50k.  One property.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 29, 2017, 09:37:26 PM
How in the world?  Owned by a REIT?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 09:41:57 PM
Wasn't it just a parking lot before?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 29, 2017, 09:42:45 PM
How in the world?  Owned by a REIT?

It was surface parking and a 1 story desolate building on the land last time it was assessed (2015).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 29, 2017, 10:34:05 PM
If you think average Joe's aren't paying for this Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing, you're rough ridin' delusional.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 29, 2017, 10:38:40 PM
It's a rough ridin' CID so developers don't have to pay taxes

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/tdd/

Joe six pack pays an extra 1% in sales tax (an ~18% increase over normal  :surprised:) for this psuedo infrastructure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 30, 2017, 07:20:40 AM
It's a rough ridin' CID so developers don't have to pay taxes

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/tdd/

Joe six pack pays an extra 1% in sales tax (an ~18% increase over normal  :surprised:) for this psuedo infrastructure.

the proponents who love their city so much will tell you that cities like KC have to TDD, otherwise developers won't develop in hayseed towns like KC
the truth is that the public has underwritten far more than their fair share for everything that has happened downtown while out of town developers have fleeced their pockets.  slying james gofundedme downtown kc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 30, 2017, 07:50:40 AM
It's a rough ridin' CID so developers don't have to pay taxes

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/tdd/

Joe six pack pays an extra 1% in sales tax (an ~18% increase over normal  :surprised:) for this psuedo infrastructure.
Wrong
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 30, 2017, 08:19:02 AM
people would rather believe false information than change their pre-held beliefs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2017, 08:21:00 AM
It's a rough ridin' CID so developers don't have to pay taxes

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/tdd/

Joe six pack pays an extra 1% in sales tax (an ~18% increase over normal  :surprised:) for this psuedo infrastructure.

the proponents who love their city so much will tell you that cities like KC have to TDD, otherwise developers won't develop in hayseed towns like KC
the truth is that the public has underwritten far more than their fair share for everything that has happened downtown while out of town developers have fleeced their pockets.  slying james gofundedme downtown kc.

And it's working  :billdance:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 30, 2017, 08:23:34 AM
people would rather believe false information than change their pre-held beliefs
That and some ppl aren't naive.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2017, 08:30:42 AM
I'm still not quite clear on how much of our income taxes is being used for downtown redevelopment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 30, 2017, 08:47:04 AM


people would rather believe false information than change their pre-held beliefs
That and some ppl aren't naive.  :dunno:

Did my example not help you be less naive?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 30, 2017, 08:50:07 AM
It's a rough ridin' CID so developers don't have to pay taxes

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/tdd/

Joe six pack pays an extra 1% in sales tax (an ~18% increase over normal  :surprised:) for this psuedo infrastructure.

the proponents who love their city so much will tell you that cities like KC have to TDD, otherwise developers won't develop in hayseed towns like KC
the truth is that the public has underwritten far more than their fair share for everything that has happened downtown while out of town developers have fleeced their pockets.  slying james gofundedme downtown kc.

I don't have strong feelings one way or the other, I just think the unwashed masses should be aware that they're paying for this thing so some rich guy can get richer without taking any risk.

Even when faced with irrefutable evidence of this truth, there are many idiots like Phil who refuse to educate themselves and insist in the delusion that the new Ramada and out of towners are footing the bill. Smh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 30, 2017, 08:51:44 AM
FSD how much of this is this coming out of my paycheck??
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 30, 2017, 08:59:19 AM
It's a rough ridin' CID so developers don't have to pay taxes

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/tdd/

Joe six pack pays an extra 1% in sales tax (an ~18% increase over normal  :surprised:) for this psuedo infrastructure.

the proponents who love their city so much will tell you that cities like KC have to TDD, otherwise developers won't develop in hayseed towns like KC
the truth is that the public has underwritten far more than their fair share for everything that has happened downtown while out of town developers have fleeced their pockets.  slying james gofundedme downtown kc.

I don't have strong feelings one way or the other, I just think the unwashed masses should be aware that they're paying for this thing so some rich guy can get richer without taking any risk.

Even when faced with irrefutable evidence of this truth, there are many idiots like Phil who refuse to educate themselves and insist in the delusion that the new Ramada and out of towners are footing the bill. Smh
Great stuff FSD. Really informative.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 30, 2017, 10:25:55 AM
How in the world?  Owned by a REIT?

It was surface parking and a 1 story desolate building on the land last time it was assessed (2015).

Sweet. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 05, 2017, 06:24:46 AM
All water is out this morning  at KCI.  No bathroom usage allowed. 

Sabotage?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2017, 06:58:29 AM
Nope, just Wendsday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 05, 2017, 08:43:03 AM
Nope, just Wendsday
:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 05, 2017, 10:31:49 AM
Why would anyone be in the airport for more than like 15 minutes anyway?  Non-issue.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 05, 2017, 11:46:38 AM
Omg. Just heard a new airport commercial on 610. Hahahahaha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2017, 11:49:25 AM
The commercial is great, heard it for the first time on Monday. Really dispels the 'clamsian misinformation campaign rhetoric
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 05, 2017, 01:01:34 PM
the "on slyin's nuts" gang is gonna have a field day with this one!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 05, 2017, 01:08:48 PM
What's your take on the commercial, clams? Lots of laughs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 05, 2017, 01:36:14 PM
What's your take on the commercial, clams? Lots of laughs?
i haven't heard it.  that said, i'm  not surprised to hear that slyin's propaganda machine continues to roll on full steam ahead, it's his modus operandi- ignore the will of the voters and spread lies about the proposals in any way possible until finally he finds a way to jam his agenda down the voters' throats.  some kcmo residents like phil and lib willingly play the role of baylor coed, others don't.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2017, 02:07:28 PM
'clams is sadly becoming the roger stone of kansas city, it's sad but he has no actual facts to back up his lies so "by any means necessary" smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2017, 02:12:42 PM
What's your take on the commercial, clams? Lots of laughs?
i haven't heard it.  that said, i'm  not surprised to hear that slyin's propaganda machine continues to roll on full steam ahead, it's his modus operandi- ignore the will of the voters and spread lies about the proposals in any way possible until finally he finds a way to jam his agenda down the voters' throats.  some kcmo residents like phil and lib willingly play the role of baylor coed, others don't.
The will of the voters will be dnown in November...which btw is the first time they will be asked. Prior airport improvement votes have all passed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on July 05, 2017, 02:22:35 PM
'clams is sadly becoming the roger stone of kansas city, it's sad but he has no actual facts to back up his lies so "by any means necessary" smdh

I am completely for a new airport terminal... But to say Mayor James and certain council members aren't shady in some of their dealings with private entities and public projects is a naive and ignorant viewpoint to take considering all the things that have come to light in recent years.

Having said that, would I rather have a new airport terminal and streetcar than a completely squeaky clean municipal government? Begrudgingly yes, however, I do wish they were a little more on the up-and-up, transparent, and out in front of issues rather than reactionary or oblivious to criticism. I mean for f-sake, why did they have a massive pr/media/education campaign for the GO bond for months in advance, but to date have tripped all over themselves on the airport? So small-time and incompetent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2017, 02:23:15 PM
Go away
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 05, 2017, 02:56:58 PM
What's your take on the commercial, clams? Lots of laughs?
i haven't heard it.  that said, i'm  not surprised to hear that slyin's propaganda machine continues to roll on full steam ahead, it's his modus operandi- ignore the will of the voters and spread lies about the proposals in any way possible until finally he finds a way to jam his agenda down the voters' throats.  some kcmo residents like phil and lib willingly play the role of baylor coed, others don't.
What's your take on the commercial, clams? Lots of laughs?
i haven't heard it.  that said, i'm  not surprised to hear that slyin's propaganda machine continues to roll on full steam ahead, it's his modus operandi- ignore the will of the voters and spread lies about the proposals in any way possible until finally he finds a way to jam his agenda down the voters' throats.  some kcmo residents like phil and lib willingly play the role of baylor coed, others don't.
The will of the voters will be dnown in November...which btw is the first time they will be asked. Prior airport improvement votes have all passed.
lol why ignore when slyin' polled registered voters and got his feelings hurt by their response?  was their voice not heard then?  obviously it didn't take long for slyin' to ignore/re-package the idea under the guise of a private financed pushed concept.  the only thing transparent about slyin' james is how corrupt he is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 0.42 on July 05, 2017, 02:58:41 PM
They should turn the entire city into a giant hyperloop hth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2017, 04:11:22 PM
Polls equal "will of the voters"...lol. good one clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 05, 2017, 04:19:58 PM
Polls equal "will of the voters"...lol. good one clams.

well, yeah they do.  that's why your boy finally called off the dogs b/c he realized the voters didn't want the thing. 

citizens for irresponsible government, you just can't make this crap up folks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2017, 04:22:11 PM
Polls equal "will of the voters"...lol. good one clams.

well, yeah they do.  that's why your boy finally called off the dogs b/c he realized the voters didn't want the thing. 

citizens for irresponsible government, you just can't make this crap up folks
President Hillary agrees with your analysis of polls.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 05, 2017, 05:54:09 PM
denial ain't a river in egypt, kids
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 05, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Phil and his liberal buddies will be voting early and often come November you can count on that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 05, 2017, 06:05:51 PM
I should be a voter by then. I'll sell my vote to the highest bidder.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2017, 06:55:46 PM
denial ain't a river in egypt, kids
Hey everybody...I just read a poll where 80% said they wanted the streetcar expansion. The will of the voters is known...construction starts tomorrow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 05, 2017, 08:44:04 PM
denial ain't a river in egypt, kids
Hey everybody...I just read a poll where 80% said they wanted the streetcar expansion. The will of the voters is known...construction starts tomorrow!

Link?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2017, 09:14:12 PM
denial ain't a river in egypt, kids
Hey everybody...I just read a poll where 80% said they wanted the streetcar expansion. The will of the voters is known...construction starts tomorrow!

Link?

I was wrong....88%

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/pulse/poll/would-you-support-a-streetcar-expansion-from-union-station-to-umkc/19973712
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 05, 2017, 09:21:22 PM
oh man, that's exactly what i was talking about, great job as always, slyin' titola.  building credibility by the post.  not.  so typical of slyin' james' nut huggin posse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 05, 2017, 09:27:07 PM
https://twitter.com/Belinda_Post/status/882541361051951104

Portapotties!  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 05, 2017, 09:28:02 PM
clams just mumped with your soul like ether.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 05, 2017, 09:30:46 PM
Phil still thinks ramada [no doubt abated] property taxes pay for that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) trolley
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
oh man, that's exactly what i was talking about, great job as always, slyin' titola.  building credibility by the post.  not.  so typical of slyin' james' nut huggin posse.

No...it was showing how dumb polls are. 

The KCI vote would have totally failed back when they took that poll you love to reference....but polls are not the will of the voter.  Their message on KCI needed to be clearer obviously.  Voters still have November to decide.  I'll bet right now it passes....because the message is clearer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 05, 2017, 11:17:03 PM
Phil still thinks ramada [no doubt abated] property taxes pay for that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) trolley

You aren't making any sense.  Go back to gaslighting for Trump.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 06, 2017, 08:25:32 AM
Phil still thinks ramada [no doubt abated] property taxes pay for that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) trolley

You aren't making any sense.  Go back to gaslighting for Trump.

He thinks it's funded by state income taxes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 06, 2017, 09:03:53 AM
I'm sure many of the retards on here are just trolling their ignorance of the funding, but fyi...

The TDD funding is 1% sales tax + special assessment on residential/commercial property.  The special property assessment is $0.70 for every $100 in assessed value (residential) and $0.48 for every $100 in assessed value (commercial).  KC issued bonds to pay for the $60million streetcar construction and the TDD funds pay off the bonds.  So every additional structure built within the TDD adds revenue to the TDD, minimizing future payments of the sales tax and property assessment.


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 06, 2017, 09:06:44 AM
I don't think any of that shows up on your paystub tho, so clearly that is incorrect
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 06, 2017, 12:17:34 PM
yeah, it's not an income tax.  and, since it's not paid for out of the city's general fund, the streetcar is not paid for by a re-allocation of taxpayer's $$$ that would have otherwise gone to fund KCMO schools, police, infrastructure, etc.  So, for KCMO residents like Clams that never come downtown, they never contribute a single penny directly or indirectly to pay for the streetcar.  Even if they spent $5K on meals/entertainment/goods/services from one of the countless new businesses and developments that have popped up within the TDD, their contribution would be a measly $50

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 06, 2017, 12:36:02 PM
Phil and his liberal buddies will be voting early and often come November you can count on that.
Hell, I might just vote a few times myself. According to grand wizard Kobach the state is just rampant with voter fraud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 06, 2017, 01:52:30 PM
Phil still thinks ramada [no doubt abated] property taxes pay for that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) trolley

You aren't making any sense.  Go back to gaslighting for Trump.

He thinks it's funded by state income taxes

No, you do
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 06, 2017, 01:54:05 PM
Lib7=fucktard

It's a rough ridin' CID so developers don't have to pay taxes

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/tdd/

Joe six pack pays an extra 1% in sales tax (an ~18% increase over normal  :surprised:) for this psuedo infrastructure.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 06, 2017, 01:54:43 PM
 So is phil

It's a rough ridin' CID so developers don't have to pay taxes

http://dor.mo.gov/business/sales/tdd/

Joe six pack pays an extra 1% in sales tax (an ~18% increase over normal  :surprised:) for this psuedo infrastructure.
Wrong
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 06, 2017, 01:55:20 PM
And mocat

people would rather believe false information than change their pre-held beliefs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 06, 2017, 01:59:20 PM
This thread truly is the gift that keeps on giving.

What are everyone's thoughts on the new garage to be built in the RM?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 06, 2017, 02:01:01 PM
Phil still thinks ramada [no doubt abated] property taxes pay for that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) trolley

You aren't making any sense.  Go back to gaslighting for Trump.

He thinks it's funded by state income taxes

No, you do

Pwned me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 06, 2017, 02:04:34 PM
Water is wet
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on July 06, 2017, 02:09:08 PM
FSD gettin pwned per usual, water is indeed wet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 06, 2017, 02:14:39 PM
This thread truly is the gift that keeps on giving.

What are everyone's thoughts on the new garage to be built in the RM?
I don't like it initially but I'm willing to listen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 06, 2017, 02:16:16 PM
FSD gettin pwned per usual, water is indeed wet.

It's pwn3d, retread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 06, 2017, 02:32:47 PM
1 Had n0 1dEa FSD wa2 50 1337
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 06, 2017, 02:44:58 PM
1 Had n0 1dEa FSD wa2 50 1337

Yes you did
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 06, 2017, 03:00:34 PM
1 Had n0 1dEa FSD wa2 50 1337

Yes you did
Nope. I think we established that I have no idea who you are. :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Republicat on July 06, 2017, 03:05:40 PM
1 Had n0 1dEa FSD wa2 50 1337

Yes you did
Nope. I think we established that I have no idea who you are. :D

You know exactly who he is. He's the guy that has destroyed you in every thread.  I man you've got a lot of posts here and I obviously don't being new, but have you ever thought that maybe this wasn't for you?  Like if you're into computers and stuff, aren't there some hook up apps for losers who can't get laid on their own?  Also I know you pinterest like a boss.sooo there's that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 06, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
yeah, it's not an income tax.  and, since it's not paid for out of the city's general fund, the streetcar is not paid for by a re-allocation of taxpayer's $$$ that would have otherwise gone to fund KCMO schools, police, infrastructure, etc.  So, for KCMO residents like Clams that never come downtown, they never contribute a single penny directly or indirectly to pay for the streetcar.  Even if they spent $5K on meals/entertainment/goods/services from one of the countless new businesses and developments that have popped up within the TDD, their contribution would be a measly $50



this rough ridin' kid is hilarious
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 06, 2017, 05:01:31 PM
yeah, it's not an income tax.  and, since it's not paid for out of the city's general fund, the streetcar is not paid for by a re-allocation of taxpayer's $$$ that would have otherwise gone to fund KCMO schools, police, infrastructure, etc.  So, for KCMO residents like Clams that never come downtown, they never contribute a single penny directly or indirectly to pay for the streetcar.  Even if they spent $5K on meals/entertainment/goods/services from one of the countless new businesses and developments that have popped up within the TDD, their contribution would be a measly $50



this rough ridin' kid is hilarious

Again, if you never step foot in the TDD - which you clearly do not - you'll never contribute a single penny directly or indirectly to pay for the streetcar.  pretty simple for most people to understand. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 06, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
yeah, it's not an income tax.  and, since it's not paid for out of the city's general fund, the streetcar is not paid for by a re-allocation of taxpayer's $$$ that would have otherwise gone to fund KCMO schools, police, infrastructure, etc.  So, for KCMO residents like Clams that never come downtown, they never contribute a single penny directly or indirectly to pay for the streetcar.  Even if they spent $5K on meals/entertainment/goods/services from one of the countless new businesses and developments that have popped up within the TDD, their contribution would be a measly $50



this rough ridin' kid is hilarious
Yeah, sorry clams, he's right on this one. Maybe just take a breather and try again next week?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 08, 2017, 01:13:04 PM
I voted no on behalf of my tenants.  Screw that gimmic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 11:55:45 AM
Real life streetcar lunch commute splits ....

4:29 walk from office to stop
7:05 waiting at stop
5:21 on streetcar (4 stops)
4:23 walk from stop to lunch location

21 total. Google maps walking direction...26 minutes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2017, 11:57:40 AM
You could have got a 5$ uber!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 13, 2017, 11:58:45 AM
tomorrow do a timed jog and report back
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 13, 2017, 11:59:14 AM
Real life streetcar lunch commute splits ....

4:29 walk from office to stop
7:05 waiting at stop
5:21 on streetcar (4 stops)
4:23 walk from stop to lunch location

21 total. Google maps walking direction...26 minutes.

that 5 minutes matters most when it's not 75 and Sunny.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 11:59:51 AM
You could have got a 5$ uber!
$6.35 Uber (plus 2 buck tip)....5 minute wait. Total time...14 minutes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 03:43:09 PM
Clams you are getting a bigger QT! Enjoy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 13, 2017, 04:39:04 PM
Clams you are getting a bigger QT! Enjoy.

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The council unanimously endorsed a plan Thursday in which QuikTrip’s pumps will be on the west side of Mercier Street and the store on the east side of the street, with the company having control and maintenance responsibility for the street, which it said it needed for its parking lot and to keep the street to its standards.

But the plan provides public right of way on Mercier, and it will continue to function as a city street, addressing the neighborhood’s concerns about losing public access.

how is that going to work?  :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 04:43:15 PM
Cluster is how
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2017, 04:45:12 PM
Seems pretty self explanatory
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 13, 2017, 04:46:06 PM
"raised crosswalks"
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article161253408.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article161253408.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2017, 04:50:32 PM
Keeping that street open is so stupid though, close it and it's a 30 second detour for like 10 people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 04:59:38 PM
Keeping that street open is so stupid though, close it and it's a 30 second detour for like 10 people.

giving away streets is the dumbest thing our city does.  The double down here by giving it away but forcing QT to keep it "open".  Dumb.

Hilarious part is the biggest eyesore on the corner still exists because QT got the Berbelgia land cheaper and knew they could force their will upon the city despite the city plan commission saying no, it being against the midtown development plan, and the surrounding neighborhood saying no.  Hail corporate!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2017, 05:00:21 PM
anyone willing to spend non-TIF money developing that dilapidated block should be welcomed with open arms
years from now this will be looked upon as the keystone moment of the "new westport" and i'm glad that the NIMBYs were told to stfu
the current QT is an embarrassment to the city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 05:07:53 PM
anyone willing to spend non-TIF money developing that dilapidated block should be welcomed with open arms
years from now this will be looked upon as the keystone moment of the "new westport" and i'm glad that the NIMBYs were told to stfu
the current QT is an embarrassment to the city

I don't disagree with you but it would be nice if QT didn't force the "WE NEED GEN 3 STORE EVERYWHERE" and worked with the city to take down the real eyesore on the corner. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2017, 05:30:33 PM
Qt is taking over the biggest eyesore tho.....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2017, 05:31:44 PM
Or maybe slyin' Phil thinks that berbiglia building is landmark architecture
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 13, 2017, 05:45:47 PM
Send a big QT to MHK plz TIA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 13, 2017, 05:56:25 PM
Seems pretty self explanatory

have you ever seen a gas station with the pumps across the street from the main building?  :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2017, 08:55:30 PM
anyone willing to spend non-TIF money developing that dilapidated block should be welcomed with open arms
years from now this will be looked upon as the keystone moment of the "new westport" and i'm glad that the NIMBYs were told to stfu
the current QT is an embarrassment to the city

I don't disagree with you but it would be nice if QT didn't force the "WE NEED GEN 3 STORE EVERYWHERE" and worked with the city to take down the real eyesore on the corner. 
i don't really understand this post.
the current location outgrew its size 15 years ago.  the company is willing to improve the area in which it sits while expanding which, most importantly, will increase its revenue and the taxes it pays the city.  all on its own dime, the way it should be done.

i really don't give two shits what the renters living in the dumps behind it or their slumlords want. for the past 20 years since i've lived in the west plaza no one has spent a dime developing anything along westport road with the exception of the chicken nuggets joint.  that's no exaggeration.

and yeah when the fucktard bitch from the west plaza association stands in the way of this all in an effort to get her name in the paper, she can eff the eff right off.  qt shouldn't have even acknowledged the bitch. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 09:12:24 PM
anyone willing to spend non-TIF money developing that dilapidated block should be welcomed with open arms
years from now this will be looked upon as the keystone moment of the "new westport" and i'm glad that the NIMBYs were told to stfu
the current QT is an embarrassment to the city

I don't disagree with you but it would be nice if QT didn't force the "WE NEED GEN 3 STORE EVERYWHERE" and worked with the city to take down the real eyesore on the corner. 
i don't really understand this post.
the current location outgrew its size 15 years ago.  the company is willing to improve the area in which it sits while expanding which, most importantly, will increase its revenue and the taxes it pays the city.  all on its own dime, the way it should be done.

i really don't give two shits what the renters living in the dumps behind it or their slumlords want. for the past 20 years since i've lived in the west plaza no one has spent a dime developing anything along westport road with the exception of the chicken nuggets joint.  that's no exaggeration.

and yeah when the fucktard bitch from the west plaza association stands in the way of this all in an effort to get her name in the paper, she can eff the eff right off.  qt shouldn't have even acknowledged the bitch.

I respect your opinion as a neighborhood resident and totally get the frustration of that stretch of westport road stagnating at best...I still think we as a city should still not just bend over at take whatever BS same design they put in the middle of nowhere at 175th & Lackman.  We have neighborhood design plans created with residents input for a reason...and that's to guide development standards for the area.  Part of my point was it would be nice if they conformed to the neighborhood plan and worked with the city to get the land on the corner which is a much bigger eyesore and probably will never be renovated now.  Maybe that space wasn't big enough but change your design.  They changed their design in downtown Atlanta.

It's not about giving a crap about what may be behind it right now (and I don't really either based on what I've seen from those places)...it's designing our city for decades in the future.  Making super blocks (vacating streets) is partly why westport traffic is a dumpster fire right now.  I would also say this huge QT isn't going to make that land behind it more desirable. 

The west plaza neighborhood association had reported 800 signatures against this initial plan....that's why the city was listening...it wasn't about one annoying loudmouth, I couldn't give a crap about a neighborhood president alone...we've seen more than our fair share of those in this city trying to NIMBY away everything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 09:15:25 PM
Lastly I'll add I've taken interest in this and the Westport privatization as I think giving away public assets to private business to do what they will is a very very bad decision.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
anyone willing to spend non-TIF money developing that dilapidated block should be welcomed with open arms
years from now this will be looked upon as the keystone moment of the "new westport" and i'm glad that the NIMBYs were told to stfu
the current QT is an embarrassment to the city

I don't disagree with you but it would be nice if QT didn't force the "WE NEED GEN 3 STORE EVERYWHERE" and worked with the city to take down the real eyesore on the corner. 
i don't really understand this post.
the current location outgrew its size 15 years ago.  the company is willing to improve the area in which it sits while expanding which, most importantly, will increase its revenue and the taxes it pays the city.  all on its own dime, the way it should be done.

i really don't give two shits what the renters living in the dumps behind it or their slumlords want. for the past 20 years since i've lived in the west plaza no one has spent a dime developing anything along westport road with the exception of the chicken nuggets joint.  that's no exaggeration.

and yeah when the fucktard bitch from the west plaza association stands in the way of this all in an effort to get her name in the paper, she can eff the eff right off.  qt shouldn't have even acknowledged the bitch.

I respect your opinion as a neighborhood resident and totally get the frustration of that stretch of westport road stagnating at best...I still think we as a city should still not just bend over at take whatever BS same design they put in the middle of nowhere at 175th & Lackman.  We have neighborhood design plans created with residents input for a reason...and that's to guide development standards for the area.  Part of my point was it would be nice if they conformed to the neighborhood plan and worked with the city to get the land on the corner which is a much bigger eyesore and probably will never be renovated now.  Maybe that space wasn't big enough but change your design.  They changed their design in downtown Atlanta.

It's not about giving a crap about what may be behind it right now (and I don't really either based on what I've seen from those places)...it's designing our city for decades in the future.  Making super blocks (vacating streets) is partly why westport traffic is a dumpster fire right now.  I would also say this huge QT isn't going to make that land behind it more desirable. 

The west plaza neighborhood association had reported 800 signatures against this initial plan....that's why the city was listening...it wasn't about one annoying loudmouth, I couldn't give a crap about a neighborhood president alone...we've seen more than our fair share of those in this city trying to NIMBY away everything.

you're missing the bigger point.  nothing has happened for decades.  there's no indication that anything will happen for decades.  zero development and the city knows nothing about developing anything outside of the downtown/crossroads area, they've left the rest of the city to ourselves.   the exact reason why you're seeing areas like westport recently making the moves that they have is because of that exact reason. forgive me for telling the city to shove their "neighborhood design plan" up their collective asses.

along comes QT with a Brinks truck loaded with development dollars and there's people getting in the way of it.  it's all so kcmo.


and westport traffic isn't a dumpster fire, it actually flows rather well with the exception of the idiotic westport road/43rd street engineering clusterfuck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2017, 09:48:15 PM
anyone willing to spend non-TIF money developing that dilapidated block should be welcomed with open arms
years from now this will be looked upon as the keystone moment of the "new westport" and i'm glad that the NIMBYs were told to stfu
the current QT is an embarrassment to the city

I don't disagree with you but it would be nice if QT didn't force the "WE NEED GEN 3 STORE EVERYWHERE" and worked with the city to take down the real eyesore on the corner. 
i don't really understand this post.
the current location outgrew its size 15 years ago.  the company is willing to improve the area in which it sits while expanding which, most importantly, will increase its revenue and the taxes it pays the city.  all on its own dime, the way it should be done.

i really don't give two shits what the renters living in the dumps behind it or their slumlords want. for the past 20 years since i've lived in the west plaza no one has spent a dime developing anything along westport road with the exception of the chicken nuggets joint.  that's no exaggeration.

and yeah when the fucktard bitch from the west plaza association stands in the way of this all in an effort to get her name in the paper, she can eff the eff right off.  qt shouldn't have even acknowledged the bitch.

I respect your opinion as a neighborhood resident and totally get the frustration of that stretch of westport road stagnating at best...I still think we as a city should still not just bend over at take whatever BS same design they put in the middle of nowhere at 175th & Lackman.  We have neighborhood design plans created with residents input for a reason...and that's to guide development standards for the area.  Part of my point was it would be nice if they conformed to the neighborhood plan and worked with the city to get the land on the corner which is a much bigger eyesore and probably will never be renovated now.  Maybe that space wasn't big enough but change your design.  They changed their design in downtown Atlanta.

It's not about giving a crap about what may be behind it right now (and I don't really either based on what I've seen from those places)...it's designing our city for decades in the future.  Making super blocks (vacating streets) is partly why westport traffic is a dumpster fire right now.  I would also say this huge QT isn't going to make that land behind it more desirable. 

The west plaza neighborhood association had reported 800 signatures against this initial plan....that's why the city was listening...it wasn't about one annoying loudmouth, I couldn't give a crap about a neighborhood president alone...we've seen more than our fair share of those in this city trying to NIMBY away everything.

you're missing the bigger point.  nothing has happened for decades.  there's no indication that anything will happen for decades.  zero development and the city knows nothing about developing anything outside of the downtown/crossroads area, they've left the rest of the city to ourselves.   the exact reason why you're seeing areas like westport recently making the moves that they have is because of that exact reason. forgive me for telling the city to shove their "neighborhood design plan" up their collective asses.

No I totally understand your point here.  Other Westport "moves" (developments) announced lately outside of this one fit the neighborhood plan exactly.  I totally support all of them.

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along comes QT with a Brinks truck loaded with development dollars and there's people getting in the way of it.  it's all so kcmo.

A gas station isn't a brinks truck of dollars.  One could argue it's a poor land use given the direction of gas cars in this country.

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and westport traffic isn't a dumpster fire, it actually flows rather well with the exception of the idiotic westport road/43rd street engineering clusterfuck

Super blocks have driven cars to Westport Rd when roads NW/SE of it have been blocked off not to mention cross streets which feed into the cause of the engineering clusterfuck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 14, 2017, 11:27:22 AM

I still think we as a city should still not just bend over at take whatever BS same design they put in the middle of nowhere at 175th & Lackman  . . .They changed their design in downtown Atlanta.


I mean, it's a gas station for crying out loud.  Every QT I've been in (Gen3) is identical.  Googled the downtown Atlanta store and it's not even a gas station.  It's a prototype gasless C-Store, basically a small grocery store.   

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 11:46:46 AM
I think Phil has a vision of Westport that it's just like downtown, completely disregarding that residential neighborhoods don't want every street to be a major thoroughfare, and that's why traffic is pushed to roads like 43rd and 39th
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 12:43:25 PM
I think Phil has a vision of Westport that it's just like downtown, completely disregarding that residential neighborhoods don't want every street to be a major thoroughfare, and that's why traffic is pushed to roads like 43rd and 39th
Not at all. Road plan is definitely part of neighborhood development plan.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 12:45:27 PM

I still think we as a city should still not just bend over at take whatever BS same design they put in the middle of nowhere at 175th & Lackman  . . .They changed their design in downtown Atlanta.


I mean, it's a gas station for crying out loud.  Every QT I've been in (Gen3) is identical.  Googled the downtown Atlanta store and it's not even a gas station.  It's a prototype gasless C-Store, basically a small grocery store.
No I totally get they want to out the same store in every place. It's easy and low cost of design. The role of the city and neighborhood isn't to just accept that. Want to do business with us....work with us....design something that fits within the context of the location.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 12:48:43 PM
Which is exactly what they did
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
development downtown couldn't be anymore cookie cutter if they tried
the new hyatt, oh la la! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
Which is exactly what they did
Agreed but QT gave very little. Still got the city to give them a city asset and didn't compromise their store design or location on the site ....both against the neighborhood plan... really my only concerns going forward with other developments.

I love me some QT and sure it will be nicer for me to use. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 12:59:57 PM
development downtown couldn't be anymore cookie cutter if they tried
the new hyatt, oh la la!
ChodeLoews is gross...but it fits established master planning and doesn't give roads to developers. Guess I'll count my blessings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 14, 2017, 01:59:38 PM

I still think we as a city should still not just bend over at take whatever BS same design they put in the middle of nowhere at 175th & Lackman  . . .They changed their design in downtown Atlanta.


I mean, it's a gas station for crying out loud.  Every QT I've been in (Gen3) is identical.  Googled the downtown Atlanta store and it's not even a gas station.  It's a prototype gasless C-Store, basically a small grocery store.
No I totally get they want to out the same store in every place. It's easy and low cost of design. The role of the city and neighborhood isn't to just accept that. Want to do business with us....work with us....design something that fits within the context of the location.

what's your design idea to make it better?  smaller, less parking, less pumps?  maybe turn it into a mixed-use coffee shop/community workshop garden? 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 02:07:03 PM

I still think we as a city should still not just bend over at take whatever BS same design they put in the middle of nowhere at 175th & Lackman  . . .They changed their design in downtown Atlanta.


I mean, it's a gas station for crying out loud.  Every QT I've been in (Gen3) is identical.  Googled the downtown Atlanta store and it's not even a gas station.  It's a prototype gasless C-Store, basically a small grocery store.
No I totally get they want to out the same store in every place. It's easy and low cost of design. The role of the city and neighborhood isn't to just accept that. Want to do business with us....work with us....design something that fits within the context of the location.

what's your design idea to make it better?  smaller, less parking, less pumps?  maybe turn it into a mixed-use coffee shop/community workshop garden?
Artisanal man bun purveyor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 14, 2017, 02:10:02 PM
No I totally get they want to out the same store in every place. It's easy and low cost of design.

also, QT is an interesting case-study in how store design impacts sales.  The Gen3 QT store design isn't motivated simpy by cost and ease - there's a pretty sophisticated logic underlying the design.  The attached article kind of touches on it.  http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/quiktrips-investment-in-retail-employees-pays-off

In 2010, its by-store profit was almost double that of the top quartile of competitors. . . . QuikTrip systematically makes operating decisions that are good for employees, customers, and profits, she says. One principle is simplicity. Instead of customizing stores according to market, QuikTrip uses the same store layout everywhere, along with limited product variety.  The reduced complexity that results from these decisions leads to higher employee productivity and fewer errors," says Ton. This standardization of stores and products also provides flexibility: QuikTrip can easily transfer employees and managers from one store to another."

 
although the article doesn't discuss it, there have been other case studies detailing the ingress/egress, layout of coffee dispensers, bathrooms, etc. and how it all integrates for a better customer experience.  Long story short, with retailers like QT, their store design is their brand and their competitive advantage. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 02:18:16 PM

I still think we as a city should still not just bend over at take whatever BS same design they put in the middle of nowhere at 175th & Lackman  . . .They changed their design in downtown Atlanta.


I mean, it's a gas station for crying out loud.  Every QT I've been in (Gen3) is identical.  Googled the downtown Atlanta store and it's not even a gas station.  It's a prototype gasless C-Store, basically a small grocery store.
No I totally get they want to out the same store in every place. It's easy and low cost of design. The role of the city and neighborhood isn't to just accept that. Want to do business with us....work with us....design something that fits within the context of the location.

what's your design idea to make it better?  smaller, less parking, less pumps?  maybe turn it into a mixed-use coffee shop/community workshop garden?
Building to front corner of the lot which could be enlarged some and be big win for pedestrians. Keep same number of pumps they have now (pumps aren't what drive their business according to their own testimony. More parking spaces. Don't let a fuax public street dissect the lot by using city leverage to take down that POS land owner in the corner who is letting that property rot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 02:20:21 PM
No I totally get they want to out the same store in every place. It's easy and low cost of design.

also, QT is an interesting case-study in how store design impacts sales.  The Gen3 QT store design isn't motivated simpy by cost and ease - there's a pretty sophisticated logic underlying the design.  The attached article kind of touches on it.  http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/quiktrips-investment-in-retail-employees-pays-off

In 2010, its by-store profit was almost double that of the top quartile of competitors. . . . QuikTrip systematically makes operating decisions that are good for employees, customers, and profits, she says. One principle is simplicity. Instead of customizing stores according to market, QuikTrip uses the same store layout everywhere, along with limited product variety.  The reduced complexity that results from these decisions leads to higher employee productivity and fewer errors," says Ton. This standardization of stores and products also provides flexibility: QuikTrip can easily transfer employees and managers from one store to another."

 
although the article doesn't discuss it, there have been other case studies detailing the ingress/egress, layout of coffee dispensers, bathrooms, etc. and how it all integrates for a better customer experience.  Long story short, with retailers like QT, their store design is their brand and their competitive advantage.
That's great for QT and it's shareholders.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2017, 02:27:56 PM
the city would be lucky to rid itself of that street,  along with the slums that line it it's yet another engineering clusterfuck as it intersects with roanoke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 02:29:56 PM
That's the funniest part is that street has absolutely no need to connect with Westport Rd. I swear Phil hasn't even looked at a map to see what he's arguing about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 02:30:39 PM
the city would be lucky to rid itself of that street,  along with the slums that line it it's yet another engineering clusterfuck as it intersects with roanoke
I wouldn't hold your breath now. A well designed QT may have added value to entice them to sell...this design will only degrade that property more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 02:32:08 PM
That's the funniest part is that street has absolutely no need to connect with Westport Rd. I swear Phil hasn't even looked at a map to see what he's arguing about
I know it well. Unusually park on it vs the QT lot. I also had friends lived there a decade ago.

This isn't about #savemercier
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 02:38:28 PM
So you want qt to adapt their design to the area but you have no flexibility in looking at the specifics of the area and what will or will not be a disruption. Got it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 02:41:18 PM
I'm still trying to unpack your "superblocks have ruined Westport rd" argument
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 02:42:25 PM
So you want qt to adapt their design to the area but you have no flexibility in looking at the specifics of the area and what will or will not be a disruption. Got it
Not following. I think there should be flexibility by all parties involved. QT added trees...that's not being flexible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 02:47:26 PM
You have no flexibility in closing that street, even though it makes the most sense in this particular project. If this was on the north side of Westport rd I would agree closing the street would not be a good idea.

QT also lowered sign heights and did some alternate lighting or something and other crap to fit in better with the neighborhood, you know this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 02:54:18 PM
You have no flexibility in closing that street, even though it makes the most sense in this particular project. If this was on the north side of Westport rd I would agree closing the street would not be a good idea.

QT also lowered sign heights and did some alternate lighting or something and other crap to fit in better with the neighborhood, you know this.
I actually agree with you and I posted that earlier that this final design was a double down on dumb. This fake open road but giving away the asset is the worst of both worlds. That was the neighborhood who thought they wanted that but my opinion is it's going to turn out worse than the original plan.

My inflexibility in street closures is a way bigger concern and comes way earlier in this process when city staff is assisting in design. QT knew they could buy the liquor store lot cheaper than the corner lot and pressure the city into this.  That's exactly what happened.

They made superficial changes. You know this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 14, 2017, 02:59:29 PM
We talking 'bout gas stations?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 03:00:45 PM
We talking 'bout gas stations?
KC talk is only for infrastructure and utility building design...airports, hotels, gas stations....

Street vacations....too soon?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 03:02:35 PM
If you look at an overhead of the area you can see the corner lot you have a hard-on for is not very large, oddly shaped and doesn't really help any with what qt is trying to do and would be pretty much useless in an expansion. The berbiglia lot makes tons more sense since it's larger and let's them redo the pump design (which is horrible currently) because of available space
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 14, 2017, 03:02:36 PM
Can you guys take a crap in your airport before a flight yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 03:05:20 PM
Just some friendly friday afternoon bbs'n  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 14, 2017, 03:05:41 PM
I looked at a map and am having trouble seeing what could possibly make this a controversial issue.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 03:09:51 PM
If you look at an overhead of the area you can see the corner lot you have a hard-on for is not very large, oddly shaped and doesn't really help any with what qt is trying to do and would be pretty much useless in an expansion. The berbiglia lot makes tons more sense since it's larger and let's them redo the pump design (which is horrible currently) because of available space
I made it work in my advanced MSPaint'n ...and redid pump design to make more sense.

Heck yeah the berbiglia lot is easier.  I'm just not in a hurry to make it as easy as possible for QT over established design standards and neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 14, 2017, 03:11:01 PM
I looked at a map and am having trouble seeing what could possibly make this a controversial issue.
It's pretty low on the controversy level...basically status quo for that street (Westport Rd)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 14, 2017, 03:14:30 PM
That's great for QT and it's shareholders.

and for its customers, obviously. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 14, 2017, 03:19:04 PM
Can you guys take a crap in your airport before a flight yet?

I don't think so. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2017, 03:19:40 PM
Ain't no seats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 14, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
Yeah let's bring up the airport again :excited:







:flush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on July 14, 2017, 03:33:26 PM
Seems like regularly non functioning bathrooms would be a legit concern but what do I know? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
I'm not a frequent business traveler, but I do prefer functional plumbing and electricity in my airports.  Though KCI doesn't always have these things, it does have curbside drop-off and short security lines - occasionally. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 14, 2017, 04:54:45 PM
Where is this qt?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2017, 05:21:18 PM
Where is this qt?
43rd St
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 14, 2017, 08:14:59 PM
Where is this qt?
43rd St
I'll drive by after work Monday. The only one I've ever been too is on Southwest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2017, 09:53:09 AM
complete stud

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article162293403.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article162293403.html)
(http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/drk7b0/picture162293393/alternates/FREE_768/READ%20ME%2020170718%20KAM%200067F)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2017, 10:08:19 AM
Massive stud.

That wreck kind of hit me hard. I drive through that exact spot everyday and if not for a minor hold up at work I would have been passing through at the exact time this happened. I have given a lot of thought to if I would have been a massive stud like this guy and I have doubts that I would.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Republicat on July 19, 2017, 10:15:33 AM
Massive stud.

That wreck kind of hit me hard. I drive through that exact spot everyday and if not for a minor hold up at work I would have been passing through at the exact time this happened. I have given a lot of thought to if I would have been a massive stud like this guy and I have doubts that I would.

Yeah, you're a selfish someone who makes me uncomfortable who would do nothing....except probably call the burning victim a racist.  Too bad it wasn't your car that burned
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2017, 10:16:54 AM
Why would I call a burning man a racist? What a strange take
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2017, 10:18:22 AM
Not all heroes wear capes. Or belts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2017, 10:19:47 AM
Not all heroes wear capes. Or belts.

can confirm that all heroes DO have a steely gaze
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2017, 10:22:13 AM
He kind of looks like the nixon head in Futurama when they put it on a different body
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 19, 2017, 10:24:10 AM
A gas station isn't a brinks truck of dollars.  One could argue it's a poor land use given the direction of gas cars in this country.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Republicat on July 19, 2017, 10:25:07 AM
Why would I call a burning man a racist? What a strange take

because you call everyone a racist.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Republicat on July 19, 2017, 10:26:22 AM
Why would I call a burning man a racist? What a strange take

because you call everyone a racist.

No I call you a racist because you are a racist.  TBT is right racistcat just wants validation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Republicat on July 19, 2017, 10:26:49 AM
crap!  :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2017, 10:27:20 AM
Massive stud.

That wreck kind of hit me hard. I drive through that exact spot everyday and if not for a minor hold up at work I would have been passing through at the exact time this happened. I have given a lot of thought to if I would have been a massive stud like this guy and I have doubts that I would.

Any honest person has doubts how they'd react in a situation like that. I know I do. I hope we can all let the example of this guy be a reminder to us of how to live. Just make up our minds now to help people when they need help. Its more likely to be some trash on the ground we pick up or holding open the door or being a courteous driver or being generous to your waitress even when she's grumpy and the food is slow than to be saving someone from a burning car.

I like to think the choices we make to serve others in small things and putting others first will get us closer to being the type of people who will gladly jump in and serve when things are dangerous.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2017, 10:28:56 AM
That's very well said cf3, I like you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
can we not republicat right now?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2017, 10:30:14 AM
Massive stud.

That wreck kind of hit me hard. I drive through that exact spot everyday and if not for a minor hold up at work I would have been passing through at the exact time this happened. I have given a lot of thought to if I would have been a massive stud like this guy and I have doubts that I would.

Any honest person has doubts how they'd react in a situation like that. I know I do. I hope we can all let the example of this guy be a reminder to us of how to live. Just make up our minds now to help people when they need help. Its more likely to be some trash on the ground we pick up or holding open the door or being a courteous driver or being generous to your waitress even when she's grumpy and the food is slow than to be saving someone from a burning car.

I like to think the choices we make to serve others in small things and putting others first will get us closer to being the type of people who will gladly jump in and serve when things are dangerous.

 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 19, 2017, 10:38:13 AM
Why would I call a burning man a racist? What a strange take

because you call everyone a racist.

No I call you a racist because you are a racist.  TBT is right racistcat just wants validation.
Hahahaha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 19, 2017, 11:12:14 AM
Not all heroes wear capes. Or belts.

Must have forgotten his glove box belt too :(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 19, 2017, 11:15:57 AM
How many fires and deaths until we finally conclude that highways are death traps?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 19, 2017, 11:18:47 AM
Never miss an opportunity to exploit tragedy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2017, 11:21:30 AM
He kinda looks like he could be mocat's older cousin
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2017, 11:38:16 AM
He kinda looks like he could be mocat's older cousin

what the
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 19, 2017, 11:39:28 AM
:Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 19, 2017, 12:53:26 PM
How many fires and deaths until we finally conclude that highways are death traps?

I think it is fairly clear to everyone that highways are death traps :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 19, 2017, 01:11:15 PM
Why would I call a burning man a racist? What a strange take

because you call everyone a racist.

No I call you a racist because you are a racist.  TBT is right racistcat just wants validation.
Hahahaha

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 19, 2017, 01:36:56 PM
Why would I call a burning man a racist? What a strange take

because you call everyone a racist.

No I call you a racist because you are a racist.  TBT is right racistcat just wants validation.
Hahahaha

 :horrorsurprise:
I'm disappointed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 19, 2017, 01:46:52 PM
Why would I call a burning man a racist? What a strange take

because you call everyone a racist.

No I call you a racist because you are a racist.  TBT is right racistcat just wants validation.
Hahahaha

 :horrorsurprise:
I'm disappointed.

(https://nytsyn-production.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/0085/6220/856220_525_350_w.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2017, 02:01:59 PM
1 - get republicat talk out of here

2 - do you idiots think lib would ever capitalize a word? idiots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2017, 02:03:06 PM
My phone auto capitalizes words  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on July 19, 2017, 02:07:45 PM
well, that took quite the turn of events
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 19, 2017, 02:40:30 PM
I should have guessed this when mocat stated that in light of new info he knew it wasn't**** Wacky. I am ashamed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 19, 2017, 02:43:50 PM
false flag cat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 19, 2017, 03:04:42 PM
thought it was TBT. damn.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 19, 2017, 03:05:46 PM
crap!  :bang:

LOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Republicat on July 19, 2017, 03:47:11 PM
1 - get republicat talk out of here

2 - do you idiots think lib would ever capitalize a word? idiots

 :nono: I may or may not be in kansas city.  I may or may not be libby.  I certainly could be a kansas city 'thing'  and who the eff are you to say what can be discussed in this thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2017, 03:48:56 PM
1 - get republicat talk out of here

2 - do you idiots think lib would ever capitalize a word? idiots

 :nono: I may or may not be in kansas city.  I may or may not be libby.  I certainly could be a kansas city 'thing'  and who the eff are you to say what can be discussed in this thread

leave pit stuff in the pit, you colossally terrible foot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Republicat on July 19, 2017, 04:45:51 PM
1 - get republicat talk out of here

2 - do you idiots think lib would ever capitalize a word? idiots

 :nono: I may or may not be in kansas city.  I may or may not be libby.  I certainly could be a kansas city 'thing'  and who the eff are you to say what can be discussed in this thread

leave pit stuff in the pit, you colossally terrible foot

I'd like to leave you in a pit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 19, 2017, 09:51:42 PM
Was wandering the internet tonight and found an 80's band from KC I never heard of called "The Rainmakers". Were modestly popular in the US but apparently a big deal in Europe. Found out about them because apparently they made a song called "Rocking at the Tea Dance" about the Hyatt Collapse (35th anniversary this week). 

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5CqCVd4Ms4[/youtube]

Pretty good IMO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2017, 09:59:27 PM
36th anniversary and the rainmakers were a pretty big deal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 20, 2017, 07:53:56 AM
Was wandering the internet tonight and found an 80's band from KC I never heard of called "The Rainmakers". Were modestly popular in the US but apparently a big deal in Europe. Found out about them because apparently they made a song called "Rocking at the Tea Dance" about the Hyatt Collapse (35th anniversary this week). 

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5CqCVd4Ms4[/youtube]

Pretty good IMO

My boss somehow became one of their biggest fans back in the day. Fastforward to last summer 2016, he throws a backyard pool party with a friend in southern Olathe, with a live performance, on a flatbed gooseneck trailer, by The Rainmakers. They jammed for an hour illuminated by car headlights.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:41:33 AM
https://twitter.com/pgrathoff/status/888060582854889472
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 11:50:28 AM
https://twitter.com/pgrathoff/status/888060582854889472

Vermes above Andy Reid or David Glass or Bill Self etc  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 12:31:40 PM
Sounds right
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 20, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
The singer from the Rainmakers used to play record bar like every Wednesday night. He still might.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 12:36:22 PM


https://twitter.com/pgrathoff/status/888060582854889472


Perhaps it’s no surprise, then, that when Price Chopper launched a new partnership with the Royals last offseason, Perez was the player chosen to take part in all those funny commercials. His Salvy Splash is eagerly awaited by fans after each home victory, and those All-Star Game appearances and Gold Glove awards are pretty cool, too.

Did 12 year old write that? ^
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 12:38:03 PM
All that stuff is pretty dope tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 20, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Dameshek/status/888086936677634048
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 01:24:02 PM
Buffalo wishes they're our rival
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 01:25:47 PM
'93  :curse: YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 07:20:17 PM
https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/888189286381694977
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2017, 07:35:08 PM
 :Crybaby:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
How did we F this up so bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2017, 08:10:10 PM
 :Wha:
How did we F this up so bad

Loews > Hyatt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 20, 2017, 08:12:05 PM
How did we F this up so bad

read any of my posts in this thread and take a couple aspirin.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 20, 2017, 09:17:47 PM
thought it was TBT. damn.

I thought it was you :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 21, 2017, 08:52:53 AM
Took Charlotte Street on my commute today. Score one up for "The Life and Times."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2017, 08:58:39 AM
How did we F this up so bad

read any of my posts in this thread and take a couple aspirin.

ok i read all of your posts itt and none of them explain why it went from a super tall glass hyatt to a haymaker hall lowe's home improvement
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 21, 2017, 11:05:17 AM
How did we F this up so bad

read any of my posts in this thread and take a couple aspirin.

ok i read all of your posts itt and none of them explain why it went from a super tall glass hyatt to a haymaker hall lowe's home improvement
$
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 21, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
article didn't load on my phone, are you telling me the chodetel dream is dead?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2017, 11:12:09 AM
How did we F this up so bad

read any of my posts in this thread and take a couple aspirin.

ok i read all of your posts itt and none of them explain why it went from a super tall glass hyatt to a haymaker hall lowe's home improvement
$

well clams' posts itt made it seem like joe taxpayer was paying for all of it, was that not the case?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 21, 2017, 11:29:28 AM
article didn't load on my phone, are you telling me the chodetel dream is dead?
Alive and well with a better flag. The article was just Hyatt crying they got pushed out of the deal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 21, 2017, 11:29:53 AM
How did we F this up so bad

read any of my posts in this thread and take a couple aspirin.

ok i read all of your posts itt and none of them explain why it went from a super tall glass hyatt to a haymaker hall lowe's home improvement
$

well clams' posts itt made it seem like joe taxpayer was paying for all of it, was that not the case?
Kind of right. Only West plaza people are paying for it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2017, 11:32:06 AM
how can you say that leow's is better than hyatt? hyatt is bitb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 21, 2017, 11:33:22 AM
How did we F this up so bad

read any of my posts in this thread and take a couple aspirin.

ok i read all of your posts itt and none of them explain why it went from a super tall glass hyatt to a haymaker hall lowe's home improvement
$

well clams' posts itt made it seem like joe taxpayer was paying for all of it, was that not the case?
you're so good at posting!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2017, 11:44:16 AM
goodnight sweet prince

(https://media.bizj.us/view/img/5827741/kccch-rendering-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 21, 2017, 12:45:48 PM
how can you say that leow's is better than hyatt? hyatt is bitb
Loews is eLiTe. Hyatt better for points people obv.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 21, 2017, 01:56:28 PM
Mocat, where have you been?  That rendering was scrapped over a year ago.  but, agreed, the new hotel looks like an office building in Corporate Woods. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on July 21, 2017, 01:59:08 PM
in here making fun of the chodetel?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 21, 2017, 02:00:47 PM
Mocat, where have you been?  That rendering was scrapped over a year ago.  but, agreed, the new hotel looks like an office building in Corporate Woods. 

what's your opinion on the next steps
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Canary on July 21, 2017, 02:31:27 PM
Took Charlotte Street on my commute today. Score one up for "The Life and Times."
So you are a Kansas City thing now?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 21, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
Took Charlotte Street on my commute today. Score one up for "The Life and Times."
@C43
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 21, 2017, 02:34:56 PM
Took Charlotte Street on my commute today. Score one up for "The Life and Times."
So you are a Kansas City thing now?
Only 4 nights a week. I love Topeka too much to give it up completely. Hahahahaha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 21, 2017, 03:07:13 PM
how can you say that leow's is better than hyatt? hyatt is bitb
Loews is eLiTe. Hyatt better for points people obv.


I have been a Marriott platinum member for over a decade in a row now...I travel most every week.  Before Marriott I was Hilton Diamond for 5 years. I have never once contemplated staying at a Loews, and never ever even heard it mentioned in a corporate setting by anyone ever.  I also go to probably 2 - 3 larger conferences a year, and have never ever heard Loews mentioned.


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 21, 2017, 03:08:52 PM
Mocat, where have you been?  That rendering was scrapped over a year ago.  but, agreed, the new hotel looks like an office building in Corporate Woods. 

what's your opinion on the next steps

The City Council circumvented the referendum effort by fixing the ordinance at issue - effectively immunizing the project from further litigation.  Admittedly, I've not wasted my time studying this issue too closely.  Maybe this will be tied up in litigation for another 2 years.  But, from everything I've read, the Loews group is ponying up sufficient private equity to make the project work.  KCMO is providing $35 million from the convention and visitor's tax fund - no $$ from the general fund.  Looks like everything's greenlighted.  Shovels are expected to be in the ground by October with completion anticipated in 2019-2020.  Wish the design were better, but the shortening of the structure was assuredly a cost-cutting measure.     
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2017, 03:09:43 PM
i don't care that it's chode-like, i just don't want it to look like 1960s dorms
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 21, 2017, 03:21:50 PM
i don't care that it's chode-like, i just don't want it to look like 1960s dorms

I still don't love it, but the updated rendering is here:  https://www.loewshotels.com/m/loews-kansas-city-convention-center-hotel

More glass makes it less dorm-like, I guess.  but, still looks like an office building. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2017, 03:24:03 PM
ok that's not so bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 21, 2017, 03:53:34 PM
how can you say that leow's is better than hyatt? hyatt is bitb
Loews is eLiTe. Hyatt better for points people obv.


I have been a Marriott platinum member for over a decade in a row now...I travel most every week.  Before Marriott I was Hilton Diamond for 5 years. I have never once contemplated staying at a Loews, and never ever even heard it mentioned in a corporate setting by anyone ever.  I also go to probably 2 - 3 larger conferences a year, and have never ever heard Loews mentioned.
Hence eLiTe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 21, 2017, 06:05:07 PM
Mocat, where have you been?  That rendering was scrapped over a year ago.  but, agreed, the new hotel looks like an office building in Corporate Woods. 

what's your opinion on the next steps

The City Council circumvented the referendum effort by fixing the ordinance at issue - effectively immunizing the project from further litigation.  Admittedly, I've not wasted my time studying this issue too closely.  Maybe this will be tied up in litigation for another 2 years.  But, from everything I've read, the Loews group is ponying up sufficient private equity to make the project work.  KCMO is providing $35 million from the convention and visitor's tax fund - no $$ from the general fund.  Looks like everything's greenlighted.  Shovels are expected to be in the ground by October with completion anticipated in 2019-2020.  Wish the design were better, but the shortening of the structure was assuredly a cost-cutting measure.     

agreed- design is second, breaking ground is first.  wondering how the whole KCMO land giving thing is going to work out on that corner.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 25, 2017, 02:29:26 PM
the ridekc app is not that great EXCEPT the amaze thing where you can buy mobile bus fares with your phone and just show the bus driver the pass on your screen as you enter. so fast and easy. you used to have to wait several days for a physical pass to show up at your house.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 25, 2017, 02:37:49 PM
the ridekc app is not that great EXCEPT the amaze thing where you can buy mobile bus fares with your phone and just show the bus driver the pass on your screen as you enter. so fast and easy. you used to have to wait several days for a physical pass to show up at your house.
Yes. This is a v good feature.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 25, 2017, 02:40:09 PM
it is completely clunky and dogshit at tracking buses though. i use kcata bus tracker app for that. you can save your favorite stops so you can quickly see when the next few buses are coming in real time. it's a 3rd party app so idk the black magic behind how they know where each bus is tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 25, 2017, 02:50:24 PM
I use itsab.us site or transit app for tracking. RideKC exposes the bus location data to whomever wants to consume it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 25, 2017, 03:25:24 PM
1. Ambassador Hotel expansion - http://maps.kcmo.org/kcgis/rest/services/external/DataLayers/FeatureServer/35/53284/attachments/17300

Holy Toledo - this building design is f'n deplorable.  It's good to fill in a surface lot and density to the CBD, but JFC this development plan is ugly. 

2. Gordon Biersch P&L is closing in August and being replaced by Joe's KC.  I've heard. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 25, 2017, 04:44:04 PM
1. Ambassador Hotel expansion - http://maps.kcmo.org/kcgis/rest/services/external/DataLayers/FeatureServer/35/53284/attachments/17300

Holy Toledo - this building design is f'n deplorable.  It's good to fill in a surface lot and density to the CBD, but JFC this development plan is ugly. 

2. Gordon Biersch P&L is closing in August and being replaced by Joe's KC.  I've heard.

Don't know about the Joes part but yes, GB is closing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 25, 2017, 06:33:14 PM
 That building looks like those stacks of coffins where you bury people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 25, 2017, 07:00:17 PM
 That looks like my butt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 25, 2017, 07:05:37 PM
I like the Ambassador building.  :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on July 25, 2017, 08:59:55 PM
Just made the unfortunate decision to hit up the Wal Mart in Argentine. Lololololololol. Never again. I turned around and headed to the Walgreens on Broadway and witnessed a lady losing her mind After she wasn't allowed to cut in line for some cigarettes.

Fun times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2017, 06:37:02 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/why-world-famous-architect-david-manica-is-building-a-bar-in-kansas-city

that patio does look elite af
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 26, 2017, 06:46:35 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/why-world-famous-architect-david-manica-is-building-a-bar-in-kansas-city

that patio does look elite af
Where is this rough rider going to be?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2017, 06:57:18 PM
posnelli (sp?) building it looked like from the picture
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on July 26, 2017, 07:11:23 PM
back-in parking coming to Oak in August. Hopefully this cuts down on car-into-building issues on that block.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 26, 2017, 08:52:51 PM
posnelli (sp?) building it looked like from the picture

street level facing roanoke
i'm there every day hanging w the construction crews, pretty small space not sure how they plan on fitting their estimates on that patio or inside
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 26, 2017, 09:42:20 PM
back-in parking coming to Oak in August. Hopefully this cuts down on car-into-building issues on that block.

#roaddiet  :drool: :driving:

Now to fix 18th.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 28, 2017, 09:04:46 AM
there was like nobody on the max this morning and about half the office is on vacation today; what is happening?  :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 28, 2017, 09:08:27 AM
Oh nobody told you?  Sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 28, 2017, 09:58:53 AM
Oh nobody told you?  Sad.

what did nobody tell me, The Big Train?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on July 28, 2017, 10:00:38 AM
Oh nobody told you?  Sad.

what did nobody tell me, The Big Train?

It's Friday, relax bud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2017, 02:12:25 PM
:driving: <--- on a streetcar. 70% voted for streetcar expansion.  Last vote this November!  *Ding ding*
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2017, 03:47:46 PM
could it possibly have lost?  of course not.  bring on more super roads
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 04, 2017, 04:39:53 PM
could it possibly have lost?  of course not.  bring on more super roads

I don't even know what a super road is - but I'm excited to ride the train to brookside!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2017, 04:43:30 PM
could it possibly have lost?  of course not.  bring on more super roads

I don't even know what a super road is - but I'm excited to ride the train to brookside!
some term phil came up with lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2017, 10:40:35 PM
could it possibly have lost?  of course not.  bring on more super roads

I don't even know what a super road is - but I'm excited to ride the train to brookside!
some term phil came up with lol
I don't know what a super road is but it sounds delightful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 04, 2017, 10:41:10 PM
could it possibly have lost?  of course not.  bring on more super roads

I don't even know what a super road is - but I'm excited to ride the train to brookside!
Only if you want to walk/bike the final 12 blocks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2017, 11:26:07 AM
Spoke with our landlords realitor yesterday who lives in the River Market. Says it's been a complete crap show down there since the little engine that could came in. He regrets buying down there now. Says a lot of bums use the system and the homeless traffic has increased since it's gone in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 05, 2017, 11:53:34 AM
Avoid that realtor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 05, 2017, 12:05:34 PM


realitor

Mother of god fanning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 05, 2017, 05:04:11 PM
Spoke with our landlords realitor yesterday who lives in the River Market. Says it's been a complete crap show down there since the little engine that could came in. He regrets buying down there now. Says a lot of bums use the system and the homeless traffic has increased since it's gone in.
I'll buy his place. I'm sure he won't mind the property value increase he got.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2017, 05:54:38 PM
 :lol: What a goddamn joke.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 05, 2017, 11:33:12 PM
What a goddamn joke.
Tell me more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 06, 2017, 01:46:08 AM
Wacky, I can confirm Phil is serious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 06, 2017, 08:34:49 AM
Spoke with our landlords realitor yesterday who lives in the River Market. Says it's been a complete crap show down there since the little engine that could came in. He regrets buying down there now. Says a lot of bums use the system and the homeless traffic has increased since it's gone in.

Just think of all those bums. Must be terrible. Before the streetcar, they never dared walk the .3 miles from downtown across the north loop highway. But now...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2017, 09:21:04 AM
It's 2 miles
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2017, 09:31:28 AM
I am quite impressed how serious Phil takes the streetcar and immediately defends it when anyone shits on it. They should rename it the 2 mile miracle by Phil Titola.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2017, 09:57:54 AM
I am quite impressed how serious Phil takes the streetcar and immediately defends it when anyone shits on it. They should rename it the 2 mile miracle by Phil Titola.
I'm not defending it to your realtir friend...just willing to take his problem off his hands.

Don't take every post so serious WC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 06, 2017, 10:21:27 AM
Buy some property with a studio apartment and I'll lease it from ya Phil. I can afford ~550. Tia
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2017, 10:39:14 AM
The rent controlled spots downtown are $670. I know there's apartments in Lenexa for that price, SDK. Maybe check those out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 06, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
But then I'll be in KS! I've found a few studios for my target price. Rumors of a salaried position coming down the pipe. So I may be able to expand my financial parameters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 06, 2017, 01:41:53 PM
18" pot holes on 435 between Quivira and Metcalf :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2017, 01:44:22 PM
Probably why it's being replaced...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 06, 2017, 06:08:30 PM
why do bums ride the streetcar? free AC?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 06, 2017, 07:33:09 PM
I will say, for George to do a commercial promoting this for Burns & Mac it was very shittily done.  First there is no SSL cert.  Second they didn't even add a txt record to allow for a www address.  Must be a Sly project huh, 'clams?

kcilovethisplace.com/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2017, 01:45:38 PM
Quote
Shall the City of Kansas City prohibit any and all City officers, agents and
employees from causing the planning for, construction, preparation for
construction, preparation of land, or purchase of land if connected to the
expansion of the streetcar system or any new fixed rail transit system,
without first gaining voter approval, and establish a penalty of up to
$1,000 a day for noncompliance?

I hope everyone in KCMO voted "YES" on question #1 today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2017, 01:52:40 PM
https://www.kceb.org/useruploads/Sample_Ballot_8-17_Website.pdf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2017, 01:54:55 PM
We know you didn't vote wacky...it's okay
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2017, 01:58:37 PM
Where's your sticker, Phil?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2017, 02:01:00 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2017, 02:04:59 PM
was disappointed to not find this Q:

Should KCMO lower your water bill? Y/N

i would have Y'd the F out of that RR
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2017, 02:11:30 PM
I forgot to vote this morning and won't get home before polls close. Would have voted double no's and a yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2017, 02:20:01 PM
Where's your sticker, Phil?
I don't take the stickers :shockhorror:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 08, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
classic old $ voter move
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2017, 02:32:40 PM
i keep one I Voted sticker attached to a shirt that i only wear on voting day. boom never have to vote again but still get credit for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2017, 02:47:20 PM
the minimum wage bullshit needs to stop
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2017, 02:48:15 PM
the minimum wage bullshit needs to stop
Agreed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2017, 02:49:43 PM
No negative consequences
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2017, 02:56:04 PM
the minimum wage bullshit needs to stop
The worst part of this election is two issues aren't even going to pass legal muster if they pass and the third is unrealistic and likely will be thrown out by council

Thanks Missouri courts!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2017, 10:36:01 PM
Quote
Shall the City of Kansas City prohibit any and all City officers, agents and
employees from causing the planning for, construction, preparation for
construction, preparation of land, or purchase of land if connected to the
expansion of the streetcar system or any new fixed rail transit system,
without first gaining voter approval, and establish a penalty of up to
$1,000 a day for noncompliance?

I hope everyone in KCMO voted "YES" on question #1 today.

Grats Wacky!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 09, 2017, 01:12:28 AM
Quote
Shall the City of Kansas City prohibit any and all City officers, agents and
employees from causing the planning for, construction, preparation for
construction, preparation of land, or purchase of land if connected to the
expansion of the streetcar system or any new fixed rail transit system,
without first gaining voter approval, and establish a penalty of up to
$1,000 a day for noncompliance?

I hope everyone in KCMO voted "YES" on question #1 today.

Ballot measures are the absolute worst of democracy. Why do we have to pick and pay all these idiots to represent us if we still have to vote on every little thing?



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 06:00:15 AM
I'm really tired of people ridiculing the streetcar for being only 2 miles long, and then actively trying to keep it from being extended
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2017, 06:55:07 AM
That petition is illegal and will be thrown out by legal and/or council in no time. Southern extension planning continues.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 06:59:29 AM
Quote
Shall the City of Kansas City prohibit any and all City officers, agents and
employees from causing the planning for, construction, preparation for
construction, preparation of land, or purchase of land if connected to the
expansion of the streetcar system or any new fixed rail transit system,
without first gaining voter approval, and establish a penalty of up to
$1,000 a day for noncompliance?

I hope everyone in KCMO voted "YES" on question #1 today.

Grats Wacky!
Fing Kansas city north ozark people are going to keep me from having a streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 08:03:49 AM
one way or another, despite what the city's voters want, sly's gonna get his damn streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 08:05:09 AM
Good  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 08:19:53 AM
It was a really close vote
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 09, 2017, 08:47:20 AM
 :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2017, 09:24:53 AM
one way or another, despite what the city's voters want, sly's gonna get his damn streetcar
The southern exoention was already voted on. Hence does not apply to what passed yesterday...which won't stand legally.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 09:34:01 AM
one way or another, despite what the city's voters want, sly's gonna get his damn streetcar
The southern exoention was already voted on. Hence does not apply to what passed yesterday...which won't stand legally.

and once given the voice, the rest of the city said we need to be a part of this discussion.  of course, city hall doesn't give a crap what the rest of the city wants.  #SLYSOP
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 10:02:05 AM
And they shouldn't
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 10:14:59 AM
And they shouldn't

yes they should, it's their city too and the sales taxes that are being increased can/will effect them as much as anyone living in SLYIN's illegal tdd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 10:16:50 AM
Sometimes the luddites need to be dragged kicking and screaming into progress
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 09, 2017, 10:18:50 AM
i forgot to vote  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 10:21:29 AM
Did OP have a vote?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 09, 2017, 10:22:33 AM
Did OP have a vote?

i don't know. i live in kansas city you dork.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 10:28:15 AM
Quote
In unofficial final results, Kansas City residents voted 51 percent to 49 percent in support of a petition initiative from streetcar opponents. The vote was 17,344 to 16,492 in favor of reining in the city’s participation.

Voters south of the Missouri River would have allowed the expansion to go forward, but Northland voters gave the petition opposing expansion the edge.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 10:31:13 AM
Sometimes the luddites need to be dragged kicking and screaming into progress

while i understand that some folks are slower than others, harking back to the 1860's isn't progress for most of us
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 10:31:40 AM
Quote
In unofficial final results, Kansas City residents voted 51 percent to 49 percent in support of a petition initiative from streetcar opponents. The vote was 17,344 to 16,492 in favor of reining in the city’s participation.

Voters south of the Missouri River would have allowed the expansion to go forward, but Northland voters gave the petition opposing expansion the edge.



too bad SLYIN couldn't have gerrymandered like he did the tdd vote
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 10:35:34 AM
clams, how often do folks from the 1st and 2nd districts get to vote on stuff relating only to the 4th district?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 11:10:49 AM
clams, how often do folks from the 1st and 2nd districts get to vote on stuff relating only to the 4th district?

can you read?  (serious question)
if you think that the streetcar or the increased taxes associated with funding it only relate to a certain district of the city than you're a rough ridin' mongloid.  but i'm sure you don't think that.  but can you read?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 11:14:15 AM
the only person who should be allowed to vote on anything that effects my address is me, since i live there and i am the only person who lives there

amirite, fellas?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 11:17:35 AM
increased sales tax in midtown does not affect 2n kenn living in a split level next to the metro north mall parking lot.

imo, if money was coming out of the general kcmo budget for the streetcar, then the general kcmo pop should have a vote. but that's not the case.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 11:19:54 AM
I should be able to vote in joco cause sometimes I buy stuff there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2017, 11:20:07 AM
I'd like to vote on every road expansion up north....that is my general fund being used....I'm sure clams would be with me there.

If you have a problem with TDD laws...take it up with the state.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 11:24:59 AM
i think in general there is a huge amount of misinformation out there. i mean wacky reads this thread and still thinks the streetcar is taking money out of his paycheck for crying out loud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 11:26:02 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/community/joco-913/joco-diversions/article165885242.html

Luddites also think this is great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 09, 2017, 11:30:54 AM
Downtown KCMO does and they spend it on crap like this.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 11:33:57 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/community/joco-913/joco-diversions/article165885242.html

Luddites also think this is great
I enjoyed the subtle implication at the end that the Phog is a dump that smells like urine
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/community/joco-913/joco-diversions/article165885242.html

Luddites also think this is great
I enjoyed the subtle implication at the end that the Phog is a dump that smells like urine

Yeah, she should have gone all out and started that banner with "pay heed".
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2017, 11:37:25 AM
Downtown KCMO does and they spend it on crap like this.  :curse:
Does what?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/community/joco-913/joco-diversions/article165885242.html

Luddites also think this is great
I enjoyed the subtle implication at the end that the Phog is a dump that smells like urine

Yeah, she should have gone all out and started that banner with "pay heed".

when you say 'pay heed' really fast it sounds like 'peed'.  coincidence?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 12:23:43 PM
increased sales tax in midtown does not affect 2n kenn living in a split level next to the metro north mall parking lot.

how does this even make sense to you?  sales taxes have nothing to do with where you live. 
there are plenty of kcmo residents who work within the new TDD on the plaza and spend a lot of time and money there, they're affected by tax increases in the highest taxed district in the metro.  let alone the KCMO residents who chose to visit the area because, you know, it's a shopping mall where people from across KCMO spend money, doing shopping, paying taxes.

the streets that these people paid for are being torn up and they'll be rerouted, they should have a say in that too.

pick and choose your arguments, split hairs, ignore reality, it's the slying way.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 12:25:04 PM
I'd like to vote on every road expansion up north....that is my general fund being used....I'm sure clams would be with me there.

If you have a problem with TDD laws...take it up with the state.

love them when they benefit your position and bitch about them when they don't, it's the slyin' way
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 12:28:32 PM
increased sales tax in midtown does not affect 2n kenn living in a split level next to the metro north mall parking lot.

how does this even make sense to you?  sales taxes have nothing to do with where you live. 
there are plenty of kcmo residents who work within the new TDD on the plaza and spend a lot of time and money there, they're affected by tax increases in the highest taxed district in the metro.  let alone the KCMO residents who chose to visit the area because, you know, it's a shopping mall where people from across KCMO spend money, doing shopping, paying taxes.

the streets that these people paid for are being torn up and they'll be rerouted, they should have a say in that too.

pick and choose your arguments, split hairs, ignore reality, it's the slying way.
Well I disagree that shopping in a place gives you the right to vote on transportation projects in that place
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 12:32:59 PM
Open this up to Olathe, we need their input too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2017, 12:42:51 PM
I love rehashing century old voting standards because clams doesn't like the project. He doesn't speak out against the TDD that nobody voted on that gives everybody "free" plaza parking.

Don't want to support the streetcar and didn't get a vote? Shop at the Gap up north. If I was butthuet about some OPKS sales tax I didn't have any right to vote on...know what...I wouldn't go there.

Fact is the southern extension was voted on already. Will this illegal petition stop it? No. Will it stop future expansions? Depends on the courts but I'll bet on no.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 12:51:49 PM
Phil, i am still of the mind that the northland wildlings think the extension will take money out of their paychecks. if they knew all it meant was an extra 5 cents on their Yardhouse tab during the b12 tourney, i doubt they would gaf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2017, 01:17:49 PM
Phil, i am still of the mind that the northland wildlings think the extension will take money out of their paychecks. if they knew all it meant was an extra 5 cents on their Yardhouse tab during the b12 tourney, i doubt they would gaf

Maybe they just don't want other parts of the city to get nice things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 09, 2017, 01:23:43 PM
increased sales tax in midtown does not affect 2n kenn living in a split level next to the metro north mall parking lot.

how does this even make sense to you?  sales taxes have nothing to do with where you live. 
. . .


So, any place a sales tax exists, individuals should be granted a vote?  I don't think this was your intended angle when you started railing this morning.  try again.     
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 01:25:46 PM
increased sales tax in midtown does not affect 2n kenn living in a split level next to the metro north mall parking lot.

how does this even make sense to you?  sales taxes have nothing to do with where you live. 
. . .


So, any place a sales tax exists, individuals should be granted a vote?  I don't think this was your intended angle when you started railing this morning.  try again.     
fix your rough ridin' photobucket pictures, downgrade
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 01:26:09 PM
elections are great, unless my side loses them, then they're illegal!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
Phil, i am still of the mind that the northland wildlings think the extension will take money out of their paychecks. if they knew all it meant was an extra 5 cents on their Yardhouse tab during the b12 tourney, i doubt they would gaf
I agree with you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2017, 01:32:17 PM
elections are great, unless my side loses them, then they're illegal!
Even the petition backers admit it's illegal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2017, 01:34:38 PM
What is illegal about it, Phil?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 09, 2017, 01:39:14 PM
fix your rough ridin' photobucket pictures, downgrade

here's a list of all special tax districts that have been created in Jackson, Clay, and Platte Counties.  http://kcmo.gov/tax/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/2017/03/SalesandUseTaxRates2017.pdf

There are about 50 of them.  The ability to created TDDs and CIDs is created by statute.  can you imagine if the Shoal Creek Parkway TDD was open to a city-wide vote?  No, you probably can't imagine this, nor would you want this.  Because the concept is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  If you don't want your money going to the TDD, don't spend your money in the TDD.  simple.  If you don't want your hard earned nickel (literally about a nickel) going to the Tremont Square TDD in Platte County (whatever the hell this is), don't spend your money in Tremont Square. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 09, 2017, 01:47:57 PM
What is illegal about it, Phil?

It's illegal for 2 basic reasons.  First, you can't amend, modify, or eradicate a state statute through the use of a municipal petition drive.  The creation of TDDs and the process of limiting votes to residents/property owners within the TDD is statutorily permissible.  The only way to change this reality is to change the statute.  Secondly, there is no statutory mechanism for penalizing city employees for doing what state statute requires/enables them to do. 

long story short, if you don't like TDDs/CIDs, change the law in Jeff City.  Any effort to change the law in City Hall is futile. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 09, 2017, 01:51:30 PM
PS - all of this illegal petition drive nonsense is entirely irrelevant to the TDD that was already created for the streetcar expansion to Union Station!  All Aboard!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 01:56:07 PM
elections, if my side wins, they're great.  otherwise i do everything i can to ensure that my side still wins, it's the slyin' way.

fix your rough ridin' photobucket pictures, downgrade

here's a list of all special tax districts that have been created in Jackson, Clay, and Platte Counties.  There are about 50 of them.  The ability to created TDDs and CIDs is created by statute.  can you imagine if the Shoal Creek Parkway TDD was open to a city-wide vote?  No, you probably can't imagine this, nor would you want this.  Because the concept is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  If you don't want your money going to the TDD, don't spend your money in the TDD.  simple.  If you don't want your hard earned nickel (literally about a nickel) going to the Tremont Square TDD in Platte County (whatever the hell this is), don't spend your money in Tremont Square. 

you just compared the tremont square development to the streetcar expansion which tells me that either you can't discern why there's a difference between the two or that you're just ignoring the reason why it's an invalid comparison.  either way, at this point i'm OK knowing that you don't agree with me  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 09, 2017, 01:57:56 PM
elections, if my side wins, they're great.  otherwise i do everything i can to ensure that my side still wins, it's the slyin' way.

fix your rough ridin' photobucket pictures, downgrade

here's a list of all special tax districts that have been created in Jackson, Clay, and Platte Counties.  There are about 50 of them.  The ability to created TDDs and CIDs is created by statute.  can you imagine if the Shoal Creek Parkway TDD was open to a city-wide vote?  No, you probably can't imagine this, nor would you want this.  Because the concept is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  If you don't want your money going to the TDD, don't spend your money in the TDD.  simple.  If you don't want your hard earned nickel (literally about a nickel) going to the Tremont Square TDD in Platte County (whatever the hell this is), don't spend your money in Tremont Square. 

you just compared the tremont square development to the streetcar expansion which tells me that either you can't discern why there's a difference between the two or that you're just ignoring the reason why it's an invalid comparison.  either way, at this point i'm OK knowing that you don't agree with me  :lol:

What's invalid about the comparison, other than the size of the TDD? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 09, 2017, 02:01:19 PM
elections, if my side wins, they're great.  otherwise i do everything i can to ensure that my side still wins, it's the slyin' way.


ps, voters like you, not Sly James, are literally the embodiment of what you just posted.  the TDD was an election.  Expansion won.  guys like you can't stand it.  start petition drive to invalidate the process.  your position on this is laughable. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2017, 02:04:49 PM
I think the petition winning a city-wide vote is no small thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 02:54:50 PM
elections, if my side wins, they're great.  otherwise i do everything i can to ensure that my side still wins, it's the slyin' way.


ps, voters like you, not Sly James, are literally the embodiment of what you just posted.  the TDD was an election.  Expansion won.  guys like you can't stand it.  start petition drive to invalidate the process.  your position on this is laughable. 

illegal election!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 02:55:40 PM
some men just want to watch the world not get new stuff
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 03:16:26 PM
Not illegal really, it just has no bearing on the streetcar process at all because the process used is exempt from this stupid petition crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 09, 2017, 03:35:55 PM

illegal election!

RSMo 238.207.  http://www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/chapters/chapText238.html

yay laws!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 09, 2017, 03:37:22 PM
laws are great, unless my side loses, then laws at stupid!  - Pissclams 8/9/2017
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2017, 08:50:24 AM
https://twitter.com/kckansascity/status/895282876056559620
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2017, 02:27:29 AM
Dyk Kelly's has a rooftop now? I learned that 2nite
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 13, 2017, 08:18:10 AM
Dyk Kelly's has a rooftop now? I learned that 2nite

Welcome to 2013
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 13, 2017, 09:14:45 AM
Kelly's is dead to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2017, 11:03:29 AM
Everyone there looked like a little baby
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 13, 2017, 11:10:33 AM
Kelly's is dead to me.

As one who spend a better part of a decade in the back of Kellys and celebrated going to the 2015 world series there, allow me to expand on this....

1) bringing in annoyingly loud live music replacing the great soundtrack they used to have.a
2) related to 1...cover charge
3) got rid of the paper cups for plastic
4) backed SMART anti-transit bs people
5) Claiming westport is so dangerous the city has to give them the streets, for free
6) the new pop a shot machine is trash
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
They don't have 60yr old bartenders anymore
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 13, 2017, 11:29:33 AM
i knew it was gonna be the row vacation :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 13, 2017, 12:32:30 PM
i knew it was gonna be the row vacation :lol:

honestly I should take that off the list.  If i was a business, I'll be all for the city giving me the street for free. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2017, 06:54:06 PM
 :Woohoo: :excited: :Jeffy:

(http://i.imgur.com/Mqwx2b7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9nWv99Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 14, 2017, 07:24:00 PM
Well I'll be darned
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 14, 2017, 07:47:50 PM
only 14 miles from drop off to gate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 14, 2017, 07:52:06 PM
the different proposals are here-
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/developers-pitch-proposals-for-new-kci-terminal-to-selection-committee
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 08:40:35 PM
hott
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 08:54:07 PM
that fly through video is one glassed out piece-o-ace
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2017, 10:27:28 PM
only 14 miles from drop off to gate

 :cyclist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2017, 10:29:31 PM
the different proposals are here-
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/developers-pitch-proposals-for-new-kci-terminal-to-selection-committee

AECOM needs to quit with the "our plan is $20MM a year cheaper....and then showing the tricked out sky bridge version that's basically the same max price as the Burns & Mac plan (but like 7x sexier)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 14, 2017, 10:35:17 PM
That sky bridge seems to connect two separate terminals. Drugs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 14, 2017, 10:42:24 PM
b&m got outdone by aecom in a deal that is basically theirs to lose.
i'm guessing b&m knows that they always and already won the bid and this stuff is just for show.
whoever wins, i'm sure we'll get hyatt hotel'd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2017, 10:47:14 PM
b&m got outdone by aecom in a deal that is basically theirs to lose.
i'm guessing b&m knows that they always and already won the bid and this stuff is just for show.
whoever wins, i'm sure we'll get hyatt hotel'd

I'm all #teamsexybridge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 14, 2017, 10:49:10 PM
Wtf was all this single terminal BS if we are going to build 2 separate ones (sex bridge notwithstanding)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2017, 10:52:00 PM
Wtf was all this single terminal BS if we are going to build 2 separate ones (sex bridge notwithstanding)

it's all the same basic H terminal design that was the initial plan, AECOM just elevated the - part to get to the rest of the gates.  Still one termy as all the pre security stuff is pre-sex bridge. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 14, 2017, 10:52:52 PM
Yeah an H is 2 termies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2017, 11:07:27 PM
Termy = security and baggage claim and gates. Gates separated by a hallway != Termy

(But I see what you are saying )
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 11:29:10 PM
Once again mocat has absolutely no idea what he is talking about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2017, 08:28:13 AM
only 35 gates, huh?  how will that low number ever be able to handle the fake increase in passenger forecast that the city came up with to help support their new terminal plan?  only time will tell, folks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 08:40:46 AM
only 35 gates, huh?  how will that low number ever be able to handle the fake increase in passenger forecast that the city came up with to help support their new terminal plan?  only time will tell, folks.
We use 21 gates on peak now.

Oh and this...37 months of passenger brot growth
http://flykci.com/newsroom/news-releases/kci-airport-passenger-traffic-may-2017/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 08:44:39 AM
That's 5% growth YoY.... Their model published last year assumed 1.9% :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2017, 08:51:01 AM
Termy = security and baggage claim and gates. Gates separated by a hallway != Termy

(But I see what you are saying )

how many terminals is this?

(https://content.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/airports-and-aircraft/airports/atlanta.damAsset.20170320T1557541320400.html/content/dam/delta-www/airports/airport-maps/ATL.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 15, 2017, 09:11:14 AM
AECOM ftw here.

how many lounges will there be? last thing I want to do is sit in some new airport with a bunch of peasants.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 09:15:32 AM
AECOM ftw here.

how many lounges will there be? last thing I want to do is sit in some new airport with a bunch of peasants.
B&m plan said 3... AECOM plan doesn't seem to have any but that seems wrong as i believe a requirement was a USO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 09:18:12 AM
Termy = security and baggage claim and gates. Gates separated by a hallway != Termy

(But I see what you are saying )

how many terminals is this?

(https://content.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/airports-and-aircraft/airports/atlanta.damAsset.20170320T1557541320400.html/content/dam/delta-www/airports/airport-maps/ATL.png)
Let's not even start confusing people with comparisons to ATL.

How many is this?

(https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/770952/McCarran_20map.0.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2017, 09:22:12 AM
why not? it looks like 3 H's connected by "hallways"

your pic looks like 5 terminals.

i just think we should define terms.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 15, 2017, 09:23:31 AM
When ATL says terminal they mean gates. Their terminology is dumb.

IMO, a terminal has it's own security checkpoint. so if there's 1 security point, there's one termy. 2 checkpoints, 2 termy's etc etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 09:24:17 AM
I did. Terminal is the whole airport experience. Pre security, security, gates, immigration, baggage delivery. Some gates down a hallway does not a terminal make.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 09:24:55 AM
why not? it looks like 3 H's connected by "hallways"

your pic looks like 5 terminals.

i just think we should define terms.
I just think it's best to avoid ATL in this discussion as it makes the townies freak out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2017, 09:25:53 AM
When ATL says terminal they mean gates. Their terminology is dumb.

IMO, a terminal has it's own security checkpoint. so if there's 1 security point, there's one termy. 2 checkpoints, 2 termy's etc etc.

so currently KCI has like 12 terminals?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 15, 2017, 09:29:33 AM
When ATL says terminal they mean gates. Their terminology is dumb.

IMO, a terminal has it's own security checkpoint. so if there's 1 security point, there's one termy. 2 checkpoints, 2 termy's etc etc.

so currently KCI has like 12 terminals?

according to my definition, yep. hence why it's so insanely inefficient.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 15, 2017, 09:31:37 AM
When ATL says terminal they mean gates. Their terminology is dumb.

IMO, a terminal has it's own security checkpoint. so if there's 1 security point, there's one termy. 2 checkpoints, 2 termy's etc etc.

so currently KCI has like 12 terminals?

according to my definition, yep. hence why it's so insanely inefficient.

I also realize this theory is not held up by pretty much any evidence at other airports.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2017, 09:35:02 AM
i agree that the terms are a little fluid/unclear.

let me just say when i hear "single terminal" i think of DAL

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ifly-airports-v2/DAL/Dallas-Love-Field-Airport-DAL-OverviewMap.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 09:44:06 AM
The only difference in the kci plan to love is planes are also before the - in the H
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 15, 2017, 09:44:35 AM
I'm somewhat amending my definition:

A terminal must have dedicated:
ticketing
security
baggage claim
pickup/dropoff area

a concourse:
be a part of the larger "terminal"
dedicated food
share the same letter designation for gates

in these proposals it appears to be 1 terminal with 2 concourses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
there's nothing inefficient about kc's airport unless you're talking about opposite day
i thought the pro-let's spend a billion dollar folks argument is we're doing too much with too little?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on August 15, 2017, 10:50:38 AM
there's nothing inefficient about kc's airport unless you're talking about opposite day
i thought the pro-let's spend a billion dollar folks argument is we're doing too much with too little?
Except the fact that they have probably 2-3 times the amount of tsa staff that an airport of that size would normally use
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2017, 11:12:51 AM
Everything about this pos airport is inefficient, smdh @ ol' tuckclams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 11:34:00 AM
There is not one thing efficient or convenient about kci in the 21st century
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2017, 11:35:51 AM
as a customer of the airport everything about it is efficient
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2017, 11:38:22 AM
Some people are just fine with oscar weber international airport for little kansas city, it's trying it's hardest!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on August 15, 2017, 11:49:24 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article167288157.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article167288157.html)

Quote
A proposal to privatize part of the Westport entertainment district’s streets has been indefinitely postponed, prompting outrage from some business owners who warn that public safety is at risk.

The Kansas City Plan Commission was scheduled Tuesday to debate the proposal, but at the last minute the group agreed to hold the measure “off the docket,” meaning postpone it indefinitely, at the request of an attorney for the Westport Business League.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
as a customer of the airport everything about it is efficient
You've learned to deal with KCI problems. That's you bring efficient
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 11:50:20 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article167288157.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article167288157.html)

Quote
A proposal to privatize part of the Westport entertainment district’s streets has been indefinitely postponed, prompting outrage from some business owners who warn that public safety is at risk.

The Kansas City Plan Commission was scheduled Tuesday to debate the proposal, but at the last minute the group agreed to hold the measure “off the docket,” meaning postpone it indefinitely, at the request of an attorney for the Westport Business League.

 :dunno:
Best news all day. Mushed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 15, 2017, 11:51:21 AM
'grats phil :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2017, 12:47:50 PM
as a customer of the airport everything about it is efficient

as a customer of the airport i am dubious that you mean everything when you say everything.
as a grammar connoisseur i am appalled at your sentence structure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 15, 2017, 12:49:34 PM
I get to fly out of our great KCI airport on SW on Friday :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2017, 01:05:34 PM
i go to the airport to do two things- to get on an airplane, and to get off of an airplane.  it's pretty incredible how efficient mci is at performing its most basic function.

and sadly for those few here that don't agree with me, the majority of kansas city does.

maybe someday when i decide that i need to hit up mci for a new pair of beats headphones, or some swarovski crystal, or some pga shop merchandise, i'll reach out to you guys and we can throw together some designs. 

until then, sorry for your hatred of kansas city's crown jewel.  perhaps move somewhere that has an airport that meets your shopping needs and your life may be a bit happier :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2017, 01:05:48 PM
I get to fly out of our great KCI airport on SW on Friday :Woot:
lucky sob
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2017, 01:07:17 PM
i go to the airport to do two things- to get on an airplane, and to get off of an airplane.  it's pretty incredible how efficient mci is at performing its most basic function.

and sadly for those few here that don't agree with me, the majority of kansas city does.

maybe someday when i decide that i need to hit up mci for a new pair of beats headphones, or some swarovski crystal, or some pga shop merchandise, i'll reach out to you guys and we can throw together some designs. 

until then, sorry for your hatred of kansas city's crown jewel.  perhaps move somewhere that has an airport that meets your shopping needs and your life may be a bit happier :dunno:
We shall see in November
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 15, 2017, 08:11:23 PM
I vote we just give Southwest a white board and tell them to tell us what we should build, and do that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on August 15, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article167366877.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article167366877.html)


Quote
AECOM accuses KCI selection committee of ‘moving the goalposts’

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/YPIrsRqqO7oB2/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2017, 08:22:59 PM
I vote we just give Southwest a white board and tell them to tell us what we should build, and do that.

Pretty much what's happening if 'clams would get out of the way
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2017, 08:25:32 PM
Imagine the convenience of showing up to the airport a mere 24 hours in advance
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2017, 08:26:18 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article167366877.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article167366877.html)


Quote
AECOM accuses KCI selection committee of ‘moving the goalposts’

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/YPIrsRqqO7oB2/giphy.gif)

b&m got outdone by aecom in a deal that is basically theirs to lose.
i'm guessing b&m knows that they always and already won the bid and this stuff is just for show.

well, that didn't take long
slyin' james and his corrupt politics are so predictable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 15, 2017, 09:32:19 PM
Imagine the convenience of showing up to the airport a mere 24 hours in advance

It's literally(figuratively) so simple the concept of SW.  I don't know why we have to keep explaining this but don't choose a rough ridin' middle seat next to fat people.  I mean the sun rises and sets every day but Jesus rough ridin' Christ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 16, 2017, 06:51:13 AM
I prefer the aecom plan but the burns plan would work fine too....Quinton (second fave council person) is bird dogging any shadyness and calling it out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2017, 08:15:51 AM
I prefer the aecom plan but the burns plan would work fine too....Quinton (second fave council person) is bird dogging any shadyness and calling it out.

everyone except for the mayor and the council people under his spell prefer the aecom plan.  and bm executives/employees.
truth is that this deal was made a long time ago and the city went through the bid process only because its residents forced their hand and made them
typical kcmo politics that you blindly support
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 16, 2017, 12:11:36 PM
Which plan does PISSCLAMS support?

There were 4 submittals correct?

Which one is the PEARL, CLAMS?  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 16, 2017, 12:13:48 PM
YOU ARE THINKING OF oysters, SdK!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 16, 2017, 12:14:18 PM
Shame on me and House Kid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2017, 01:38:06 PM
i don't support any of them but i think aecom's was the best of the proposals submitted and it wasn't even close
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 01:41:18 PM
i sort of skimmed that article. what is aecom butthurt about? it sounds like the city has asked each of the submitters (sp?) for a more detailed breakdown of the expenses
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2017, 02:44:11 PM
ultimately aecom is concerned that the other proposers will have visibility into the structuring of their financials
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 16, 2017, 04:54:02 PM
Joe's announcement tomorrow. Bring on the p&l BBQ wars
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2017, 05:29:57 PM
so weird, they recently said no more expansion
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 16, 2017, 06:00:35 PM
so weird, they recently said no more expansion


I remember reading that too, and thinking "crap, that's a lot of money to leave on the table."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 16, 2017, 10:55:02 PM
When downtown KC calls....you answer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 17, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
I assume the streetcar was directly responsible for the Joe's decision. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 17, 2017, 12:13:53 PM
I assume the streetcar was directly responsible for the Joe's decision.

Nailed it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2017, 12:52:03 PM
Joe's announcement tomorrow. Bring on the p&l BBQ wars

you mean like joe's vs plowboys? bunch of fig eaters trying to find reverse on a soviet tank is not a worthy adversary dude
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 17, 2017, 12:57:27 PM
Perfect usage.  I hope the kids at home are watching this and taking notes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 17, 2017, 01:07:44 PM
the mountainous brick sidewalk on the east side of  main b/w 12th and 13th has been repaired.  #thxsly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 17, 2017, 02:14:02 PM
Joe's announcement tomorrow. Bring on the p&l BBQ wars

you mean like joe's vs plowboys? bunch of fig eaters trying to find reverse on a soviet tank is not a worthy adversary dude
Each has a place in my belly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on August 17, 2017, 03:27:36 PM
County Line Ice House

Joes KC + Westport Ale House bros

http://www.kansascity.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/chow-town/article167709582.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 21, 2017, 02:49:10 PM
Airport Anecdote time.

Took me the same time from curb to thru security at MCI (checking bags....16 minutes total) as it did to do the same thing on a Monday morning at ORD through American...and most of my time in ORD was spent with a gate agent straightening out bag tickets from a missed connection.  It took me 1 minute longer than kci to go from curb, check bags, to thru security (including immigration/customs) in Montreal.

It took me 3 minutes more to get off the plane in Toronto to ground transportation (including clearing immigration and customs) as it did for me to get off the plane and be at the curb at kci....that's not to mention the 15 minutes it took me to get from curb to my car.

Convenience. Lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 21, 2017, 03:00:37 PM
I flew out of KCI on Friday on SW and the entire experience was quick, efficient, and very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 21, 2017, 03:14:17 PM
Airport Anecdote time.

Took me the same time from curb to thru security at MCI (checking bags....16 minutes total) as it did to do the same thing on a Monday morning at ORD through American...and most of my time in ORD was spent with a gate agent straightening out bag tickets from a missed connection.  It took me 1 minute longer than kci to go from curb, check bags, to thru security (including immigration/customs) in Montreal.

It took me 3 minutes more to get off the plane in Toronto to ground transportation (including clearing immigration and customs) as it did for me to get off the plane and be at the curb at kci....that's not to mention the 15 minutes it took me to get from curb to my car.

Convenience. Lol.

glad to see ORD and YUL are stepping up their game and competing with the big boys of the airport industry

I flew out of KCI on Friday on SW and the entire experience was quick, efficient, and very enjoyable.

as evidenced by sly titola's post, mci offers a world class experience.  it's amazing how a small contingent of anti-kansas city people will try to ruin the mci experience for others, pretty sad actually
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 21, 2017, 03:23:03 PM
Exactly clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:30 PM
ORD is BITB in curb to gate time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 06:58:49 AM
How's the basement this morning Tom?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 22, 2017, 08:28:20 AM
On 810 this am, I heard talk of a family on their roof. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 22, 2017, 09:43:22 AM
westport (shithole) of course flooded and streets were closed this am
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 10:27:21 AM
18" of water in el basemento de siete
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 22, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
:sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 10:58:14 AM
i heard some parts near there got 10" of rain last night  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2017, 11:13:27 AM
Last night was some of the most peaceful sleep I've ever had in my life. Thankfully we don't have a basement, so I enjoyed the storms immensely.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 22, 2017, 11:18:11 AM
has the Californo's shooting been discussed.  I haven't been following the Westport street privatization discussion.  I assume this shooting is a blow to the anti-privatization crowd? 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 22, 2017, 11:36:16 AM
has the Californo's shooting been discussed.  I haven't been following the Westport street privatization discussion.  I assume this shooting is a blow to the anti-privatization crowd? 



westport (which is a known shithole) on a sunday night at 8:30 = war zone

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 22, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
I think Indian Creek is gonna keep flooding until we rename it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 22, 2017, 12:19:03 PM
I think Indian Creek is gonna keep flooding until we rename it.
this one was a record.  big deal until you realize they've only been tracking flood levels there since aught 4 but it's been flooding for as long as this clam homesteaded here

it needs to be fixed. is it a corp of engy job or a state or a city job?  who's going to pay for this when we have streetcar lines to lay and taxes to defer? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 22, 2017, 12:35:12 PM
Airport Anecdote time.

Took me the same time from curb to thru security at MCI (checking bags....16 minutes total) as it did to do the same thing on a Monday morning at ORD through American...and most of my time in ORD was spent with a gate agent straightening out bag tickets from a missed connection.  It took me 1 minute longer than kci to go from curb, check bags, to thru security (including immigration/customs) in Montreal.

It took me 3 minutes more to get off the plane in Toronto to ground transportation (including clearing immigration and customs) as it did for me to get off the plane and be at the curb at kci....that's not to mention the 15 minutes it took me to get from curb to my car.

Convenience. Lol.

what are you curb -> gate splits vs. KCI?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 22, 2017, 12:50:07 PM
has the Californo's shooting been discussed.  I haven't been following the Westport street privatization discussion.  I assume this shooting is a blow to the anti-privatization crowd?
To the contrary both shootings this weekend we're outside of their proposed DMZ times/streets. It proves their solution won't fix anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 12:52:18 PM
has the Californo's shooting been discussed.  I haven't been following the Westport street privatization discussion.  I assume this shooting is a blow to the anti-privatization crowd?
To the contrary both shootings this weekend we're outside of their proposed DMZ times/streets. It proves their solution won't fix anything.

It doesn't prove anything, good grief phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 22, 2017, 12:53:45 PM
Airport Anecdote time.

Took me the same time from curb to thru security at MCI (checking bags....16 minutes total) as it did to do the same thing on a Monday morning at ORD through American...and most of my time in ORD was spent with a gate agent straightening out bag tickets from a missed connection.  It took me 1 minute longer than kci to go from curb, check bags, to thru security (including immigration/customs) in Montreal.

It took me 3 minutes more to get off the plane in Toronto to ground transportation (including clearing immigration and customs) as it did for me to get off the plane and be at the curb at kci....that's not to mention the 15 minutes it took me to get from curb to my car.

Convenience. Lol.

what are you curb -> gate splits vs. KCI?
I stopped the clock after security but kci would obviously be shorter than ORD. ...after customs at YUL the gate was actually very close so that time was similar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 22, 2017, 12:54:34 PM
has the Californo's shooting been discussed.  I haven't been following the Westport street privatization discussion.  I assume this shooting is a blow to the anti-privatization crowd?
To the contrary both shootings this weekend we're outside of their proposed DMZ times/streets. It proves their solution won't fix anything.

It doesn't prove anything, good grief phil
It's not the right solution for their stated problem.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 12:56:30 PM
Just because it wouldn't have "stopped" this incident doesn't mean it wouldn't help overall
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 22, 2017, 01:04:56 PM
Just because it wouldn't have "stopped" this incident doesn't mean it wouldn't help overall
It won't help. The problems aren't happening in the area they want to take over right now. They are already happening in the fringe surrounding the streets they want and into the neighborhoods. It's a v horrible solution that doesnt help anything but give the bars streets for free.

No amount of research has been done or data presented that supports their plan.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 09:14:43 AM
4 cities got non stops to Iceland today. Maybe we can fly from our convenient airport to Cincinnati to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 09:41:57 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 23, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
4 cities got non stops to Iceland today. Maybe we can fly from our convenient airport to Cincinnati to enjoy it.

can't make this stuff up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 10:42:25 AM
4 cities got non stops to Iceland today. Maybe we can fly from our convenient airport to Cincinnati to enjoy it.

can't make this stuff up
You deserve better clams. Iceland better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 10:43:18 AM
Great layover spot to Europe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 10:47:33 AM
Phil you can take the streetcar to union station and then amtrak to STL. you'll be well on your way to castle black with no layovers!  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 10:54:16 AM
Wonder why kci has the largest number of transatlantic passengers per day with no transatlantic flights? Convenience!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 03:11:52 PM
Of downtown resident/worker/tourist/driver interest.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 08:38:59 PM
Wonder why kci has the largest number of transatlantic passengers per day with no transatlantic flights? Convenience!
I would guess geography is a big part of it too. Who's second in that category?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 08:49:21 PM
Wonder why kci has the largest number of transatlantic passengers per day with no transatlantic flights? Convenience!
I would guess geography is a big part of it too. Who's second in that category?

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/785602370797314048

Indy.  Everybody bigger than KCI on this chart now has service since this tweet...geography isn't the challenge, the condition of our international gate is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 08:55:46 PM
How can you look at that chart and not think it's geography
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 09:00:00 PM
How can you look at that chart and not think it's geography

it's obvious we are on the cusp of earning an Atlantic flight on our own O&D traffic (not to mention what we would pull from the region if we got one).  Moving KC further east wouldn't suddenly get us service.  The current terminal just hinder us further in getting these flights.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 09:04:54 PM
Well I mean New Orleans and St. Louis and Cleveland had 20% more traffic and Nashville is a unique industry center. So yeah that's about what you would expect if traffic and geography were major factors.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 23, 2017, 09:06:57 PM
lol phil, seriously?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 09:07:39 PM
Cool stats though. Just not sure the terminal is the make-or-break factor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 09:16:28 PM
Every large central USA metro that isn't a big 3 hub is on that list phil.
The only exception I can think of is Milwaukee but maybe they just drive to ORD?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 09:19:05 PM
Cool stats though. Just not sure the terminal is the make-or-break factor

Traffic is the obv factor.  Terminal isn't helping.

Nashville is a unique industry center?  Not sure I follow that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 09:21:40 PM
Every large central USA metro that isn't a big 3 hub is on that list phil.
The only exception I can think of is Milwaukee but maybe they just drive to ORD?

right...traffic is the factor here, not geography. Terminal isn't helping.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 09:22:18 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 09:23:21 PM
Lol

When keeping it gE goes wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 23, 2017, 09:29:55 PM
So true
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 09:35:30 PM
Cool stats though. Just not sure the terminal is the make-or-break factor

Traffic is the obv factor.  Terminal isn't helping.

Nashville is a unique industry center?  Not sure I follow that.
The music industry. Definitely not a huge factor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 09:41:20 PM
Cool stats though. Just not sure the terminal is the make-or-break factor

Traffic is the obv factor.  Terminal isn't helping.

Nashville is a unique industry center?  Not sure I follow that.
The music industry. Definitely not a huge factor.

good point..surprising they have passenger counts so close to KCI given that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 23, 2017, 09:43:09 PM
I actually flew into MCI today(on SW) and it was very enjoyable all the way around.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 09:45:01 PM
I actually flew into MCI today(on SW) and it was very enjoyable all the way around.

I couldn't be happier with how well our city manages KCI and gives my IRL friends a great experience.  #KCSpirit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2017, 10:09:53 PM
I'm bumping this as it didn't get the love it deserves.  This is a big deal.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 23, 2017, 10:11:46 PM
Had no clue TBT had been traveling these days.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 23, 2017, 11:06:12 PM
I'm bumping this as it didn't get the love it deserves.  This is a big deal.

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i read it and came away thinking that traffic engineers/professionals should be deciding these things, not Pat from the crossroads

i bitch a lot about transparency and inclusion when it comes to govt decisions but this wouldn't be one of those times

i would think an upside down Y would make the most sense merging eastbound to north traffic from the left branch with westbound to north traffic coming from the right branch - all onto the northbound bridge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 11:31:42 PM
Needs full removal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 07:12:59 AM
I'm bumping this as it didn't get the love it deserves.  This is a big deal.

Of downtown resident/worker/tourist/driver interest.

Fill out the survey

http://www.beyondtheloopkc.com/meeting-materials
i read it and came away thinking that traffic engineers/professionals should be deciding these things, not Pat from the crossroads

i bitch a lot about transparency and inclusion when it comes to govt decisions but this wouldn't be one of those times

i would think an upside down Y would make the most sense merging eastbound to north traffic from the left branch with westbound to north traffic coming from the right branch - all onto the northbound bridge
This is just to gauge public opinion and will be a factor in deciding which top proposals to put through more study.

My vote is full north loop removal, new bridge closer to 35  with protect bike and ped walkway (D), and 9 highway with a linear park down the middle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 09:33:26 AM
Cool stats though. Just not sure the terminal is the make-or-break factor

Traffic is the obv factor.  Terminal isn't helping.

Nashville is a unique industry center?  Not sure I follow that.
The music industry. Definitely not a huge factor.

good point..surprising they have passenger counts so close to KCI given that.

i agree. it's a testament to how great our airport is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 09:33:38 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 09:35:55 AM
MCI, good enough for visitors from Manhattan, KS!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 09:57:40 AM
MCI, good enough for visitors from Manhattan, KS!
It's good enough for 99% of the crowd. The only ppl who bitch are the ppl who leave their cubes once a month to travel for work and act like they're elite.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 09:59:15 AM
Kansas City - Good Enough...?

New slogan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 24, 2017, 10:00:49 AM
There is a person, Monte, that I used to work with that had a saying.

That saying was "It's good enough for the girls I go out with."

It is a point to ponder and really makes you think.


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 10:14:22 AM
MCI, good enough for visitors from Manhattan, KS!
It's good enough for 99% of the crowd. The only ppl who bitch are the ppl who leave their cubes once a month to travel for work and act like they're elite.

totally
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 24, 2017, 10:20:14 AM
MCI, good enough for visitors from Manhattan, KS!
It's good enough for 99% of the crowd. The only ppl who bitch are the ppl who leave their cubes once a month to travel for work and act like they're elite.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 10:57:25 AM
 :eye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
Such a weird ongoing feud over nothing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 24, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
Dwight from The Office bitched about it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 11:09:31 AM
Ballot language finalized today....winning proposer announced next Thursday :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 11:30:42 AM
Dwight from The Office bitched about it

classic dwight trying to act elite
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on August 24, 2017, 12:22:14 PM
Wonder why kci has the largest number of transatlantic passengers per day with no transatlantic flights? Convenience!
I would guess geography is a big part of it too. Who's second in that category?

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/785602370797314048

Indy.  Everybody bigger than KCI on this chart now has service since this tweet...geography isn't the challenge, the condition of our international gate is.
indy built a $1.1 Billion dollar terminal in 2008 and still no TATL?  Am I reading this right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 24, 2017, 02:12:49 PM
Ballot language finalized today....winning proposer announced next Thursday :excited:

'grats burns & mac!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 24, 2017, 02:56:25 PM
Wonder why kci has the largest number of transatlantic passengers per day with no transatlantic flights? Convenience!
I would guess geography is a big part of it too. Who's second in that category?

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/785602370797314048

Indy.  Everybody bigger than KCI on this chart now has service since this tweet...geography isn't the challenge, the condition of our international gate is.
indy built a $1.1 Billion dollar terminal in 2008 and still no TATL?  Am I reading this right?


That's an awful lot of money to spend, and ain't got no transatlantic seats.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 03:18:23 PM
indy built a $1.1 Billion dollar terminal in 2008 and still no TATL?  Am I reading this right?

That's an awful lot of money to spend, and ain't got no transatlantic seats.

i'm sure there is a rebel hoosier board out there where pisscolts is really letting Peyton Titola hear about it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 24, 2017, 03:43:37 PM
Hahahah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 03:47:39 PM
It's just how crappy Indy is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on August 24, 2017, 04:14:17 PM
It's just how crappy Indy is.

The city that recently hosted the super bowl and hosts the final four every 5 or 6 years now?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 24, 2017, 04:17:17 PM
indy is everything kc wants to be economically
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 04:23:30 PM
It's just how crappy Indy is.

The city that recently hosted the super bowl and hosts the final four every 5 or 6 years now?
Never been there I see.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 04:24:20 PM
Airport ballot passes. Language specifies no city bonds to be used. Vote Yes November 7th!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 04:26:45 PM
indianapolis is disgusting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 04:27:53 PM
Are there any cool "apolis" 's?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on August 24, 2017, 04:28:59 PM
It's just how crappy Indy is.

The city that recently hosted the super bowl and hosts the final four every 5 or 6 years now?
Never been there I see.

Of course I have.  It's KC w/better infrastructure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 24, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
indy doubles kc's tourism dollars annually
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 04:31:47 PM
Are there any cool "apolis" 's?

annapolis is gorgeous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 04:34:34 PM
indy doubles kc's tourism dollars annually

what tourism dollars does kc even get? i guess just the worlds of fun parking lot full of nebraska plates 247?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 24, 2017, 04:35:43 PM
indy is everything kc wants to be economically
lady in my office is from indy she never shuts up about it.. then later on found out shes from some place that's like an hour away from Indianapolis.. told her nice try mary bird, get outta my face
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 04:37:16 PM
I'm in Indy every other month for work. Can confirm many of you are doing it wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 04:39:35 PM
This place kills any steakhouse KC has ever had. https://www.stelmos.com/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 04:41:11 PM
indy doubles kc's tourism dollars annually

what tourism dollars does kc even get? i guess just the worlds of fun parking lot full of nebraska plates 247?
$5.1B in economic impact that creates 46k jobs with $1.6B in salaries.  11 million overnight visitors. 

(Indy $4.4B annually btw)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 04:45:00 PM
Dmanbit ..I make one gE comment and get sucked into this. Stop it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 04:45:15 PM
This place kills any steakhouse KC has ever had. https://www.stelmos.com/

welp case closed, indy>kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 04:46:12 PM
It's just how crappy Indy is.

but with all those trans atlantic passengers and the shiny new terminal, what gives?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
This place kills any steakhouse KC has ever had. https://www.stelmos.com/

welp case closed, indy>kc
Just saying it's not as bad as you guys are making it out to be.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 05:35:02 PM
Congrats getting out of your cube every other month
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 24, 2017, 05:40:06 PM
What good would it be for KC to have 1 or 2 transatlantic destinations? Chances are you still have to connect to get to where you want to go, why not make that connection in JFK, ORD, or ATL and fly direct from there? Seems like a total non-issue
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 05:59:29 PM
What good would it be for KC to have 1 or 2 transatlantic destinations? Chances are you still have to connect to get to where you want to go, why not make that connection in JFK, ORD, or ATL and fly direct from there? Seems like a total non-issue
Just to be cool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on August 24, 2017, 06:05:20 PM
Phil, you gotta look at an actuarial table and decide if you want to keep tilting at wind turbines or move now to a place that is what you want in a city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 06:46:15 PM
Congrats getting out of your cube every other month
Not screaming for a new airport tho! Take notes son.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 06:47:58 PM
Phil, you gotta look at an actuarial table and decide if you want to keep tilting at wind turbines or move now to a place that is what you want in a city.

If I wanted to Wacky this thread up, we could dive deeper into this but it's a good point....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on August 24, 2017, 06:49:52 PM
Phil, you gotta look at an actuarial table and decide if you want to keep tilting at wind turbines or move now to a place that is what you want in a city.

If I wanted to Wacky this thread up we could dive deeper into this but it's a good point....

Too late
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 06:50:14 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 06:51:56 PM
Phil, you gotta look at an actuarial table and decide if you want to keep tilting at wind turbines or move now to a place that is what you want in a city.

If I wanted to Wacky this thread up we could dive deeper into this but it's a good point....

Too late

that hurts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 06:53:14 PM
You do it more than you know, friend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 07:00:46 PM
November 7th....easy to vote Yes on this sexy language

Quote
Shall the City of Kansas City be authorized to construct a new passenger terminal at Kansas City International Airport and demolish existing terminals as necessary, with all costs paid solely from the revenues derived by the City from the operation of its airports and related facilities, and without the issuance of general airport revenue bonds unless such general airport revenue bonds have received prior voter approval?

New Harry S. Truman Terminal opening 2021...thanks to AECOM (hopefully).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
It will drive up cost of living like the street car. Vote no friends. ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 07:10:58 PM
Increased property value sounds horrible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 07:11:34 PM
What the
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 07:15:58 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/6896e5345f25b64cc07fcfe91efc197b.jpg)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on August 24, 2017, 07:37:55 PM
This place kills any steakhouse KC has ever had. https://www.stelmos.com/

welp case closed, indy>kc
Just saying it's not as bad as you guys are making it out to be.

looking like I'd probs smash in the 1933 lounge.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 24, 2017, 07:48:05 PM
slyin' james can't head to prison soon enough
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 08:14:41 PM
Total crook
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 08:23:32 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/6896e5345f25b64cc07fcfe91efc197b.jpg)


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I don't get it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on August 24, 2017, 08:24:52 PM
#zapped
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 08:26:00 PM
Oh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 08:26:15 PM
Smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 24, 2017, 08:28:17 PM
drugs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 08:29:39 PM
drugs?
probably all of the above unfortunately  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 08:33:46 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 24, 2017, 10:14:29 PM
slyin' james can't head to prison soon enough

 :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 28, 2017, 12:17:12 PM
Convenient KCI costs us directs once again...

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/902217027678384128?s=09
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on August 28, 2017, 12:27:44 PM
I'm sure St Louis being a Southwest hub has nothing to do with it.*


*disclaimer: I'm #TeamNewKCAirport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 28, 2017, 12:30:29 PM
There is a reason stl has become more of a hub for Southwest than kci....despite costing more to land there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 01:05:23 PM
that sucks, i would love MCI-SJC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 28, 2017, 01:06:00 PM
Convenient KCI costs us directs once again...

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/902217027678384128?s=09

justin meyer, the unbiased voice of mci

fwiw, swa has invested a lot in lambert, we won't be stealing any of their business no matter how much we spend on a terminal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on August 28, 2017, 01:50:11 PM
Goodness, Justin Meyer. Chill, dude.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 28, 2017, 03:19:53 PM
Convenient KCI costs us directs once again...

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/902217027678384128?s=09
The new SFO-MCI directs on both United and Alaska could also be a factor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 28, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
Convenient KCI costs us directs once again...

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/902217027678384128?s=09

justin meyer, the unbiased voice of mci

fwiw, swa has invested a lot in lambert, we won't be stealing any of their business no matter how much we spend on a terminal
Sure clams, sure. That's why SWA is the big push behind a new terminal here. Keep that KC spirit going!
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 29, 2017, 12:47:49 PM
If this thing is a slam dunk benefit then it should pass easily, and Phil can stick it to old clams. 

Or, if it doesn't then it's either a bad deal for the people (clams sticks it to old Phil) or the City failed to properly inform the people (clams still sticks it to old Phil).

That's really there is to this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 29, 2017, 12:51:38 PM
Convenient KCI costs us directs once again...

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/902217027678384128?s=09

justin meyer, the unbiased voice of mci

fwiw, swa has invested a lot in lambert, we won't be stealing any of their business no matter how much we spend on a terminal
Sure clams, sure. That's why SWA is the big push behind a new terminal here. Keep that KC spirit going!


why wouldn't they be behind anything that helps increase their revenue when it doesn't cost them a dime?
it's very similar to when sly gave you your free toy choo choo train
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2017, 01:09:11 PM
Convenient KCI costs us directs once again...

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/902217027678384128?s=09

justin meyer, the unbiased voice of mci

fwiw, swa has invested a lot in lambert, we won't be stealing any of their business no matter how much we spend on a terminal
Sure clams, sure. That's why SWA is the big push behind a new terminal here. Keep that KC spirit going!


why wouldn't they be behind anything that helps increase their revenue when it doesn't cost them a dime?
it's very similar to when sly gave you your free toy choo choo train
That choo choo is far from free for me. I happily pay it for you though clams.

Wait...I thought the airport was going to cost airlines all this money that was going to be passed into me the flier...but now you tell me the airlines are in on it as their revenue is going to skyrocket?  Interesting.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2017, 01:20:06 PM
If this thing is a slam dunk benefit then it should pass easily, and Phil can stick it to old clams. 

Or, if it doesn't then it's either a bad deal for the people (clams sticks it to old Phil) or the City failed to properly inform the people (clams still sticks it to old Phil).

That's really there is to this.
No gE response...That doesn't excite me at all. This is all about moving KC forward and improving it for me and for everybody.

gE response....November 8th will be a lol fest ITT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 29, 2017, 01:48:16 PM
Wait...I thought the airport was going to cost airlines all this money that was going to be passed into me the flier...but now you tell me the airlines are in on it as their revenue is going to skyrocket?  Interesting.

the airlines will be lending the residents of kansas city, who make up for the overwhelming customers of mci, whatever the airlines' portion of the costs will be.  and i'm sure the airlines will be covering their cost of capital on that loan, too. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2017, 02:05:52 PM
Wait...I thought the airport was going to cost airlines all this money that was going to be passed into me the flier...but now you tell me the airlines are in on it as their revenue is going to skyrocket?  Interesting.

the airlines will be lending the residents of kansas city, who make up for the overwhelming customers of mci, whatever the airlines' portion of the costs will be.  and i'm sure the airlines will be covering their cost of capital on that loan, too.
KCMO residents do not make up the majority of fliers.

Lease agreements and landing fees only make up a small portion of airlines cost structure and research has shown new terminals don't raise ticket prices.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 29, 2017, 02:09:03 PM
I'm afraid that in the end the backwards citizens of this city will keep kc the backwards city 'clams hates
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
is the streetcar still free?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2017, 02:40:22 PM
Yes. There are no plans to charge downtown. Expansion to plaza still not determined (planning going on right now)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 29, 2017, 05:11:00 PM
Wait...I thought the airport was going to cost airlines all this money that was going to be passed into me the flier...but now you tell me the airlines are in on it as their revenue is going to skyrocket?  Interesting.

the airlines will be lending the residents of kansas city, who make up for the overwhelming customers of mci, whatever the airlines' portion of the costs will be.  and i'm sure the airlines will be covering their cost of capital on that loan, too.
KCMO residents do not make up the majority of fliers.

Lease agreements and landing fees only make up a small portion of airlines cost structure and research has shown new terminals don't raise ticket prices.

typical slyin' double talk.  i didn't say the residents of kcmo.
you're going to end up in prison with him if you're not careful.  he'll pawn all of this off on his pawns.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2017, 05:20:39 PM
winning airport proposer announcement delayed a week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2017, 05:32:52 PM
Wait...I thought the airport was going to cost airlines all this money that was going to be passed into me the flier...but now you tell me the airlines are in on it as their revenue is going to skyrocket?  Interesting.

the airlines will be lending the residents of kansas city, who make up for the overwhelming customers of mci, whatever the airlines' portion of the costs will be.  and i'm sure the airlines will be covering their cost of capital on that loan, too.
KCMO residents do not make up the majority of fliers.

Lease agreements and landing fees only make up a small portion of airlines cost structure and research has shown new terminals don't raise ticket prices.

typical slyin' double talk.  i didn't say the residents of kcmo.
you're going to end up in prison with him if you're not careful.  he'll pawn all of this off on his pawns.

obv. should have assumed "residents of kansas city" didn't mean the people actually voting for this.  I much prefer how airport funding is done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 29, 2017, 07:20:46 PM
my point remains the same regardless of if you're stuck sitting under slyin's desk splitting hairs
this will be funded on the backs of the people of kc no matter how many george brett commercials you put out there to try and change (fix) the narrative
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2017, 07:38:15 PM
my point remains the same regardless of if you're stuck sitting under slyin's desk splitting hairs
this will be funded on the backs of the people of kc no matter how many george brett commercials you put out there to try and change (fix) the narrative
Great point clams. Really on top of this one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 29, 2017, 08:15:58 PM
i mean, do Sly's Guys actually think anyone believes that the project is privately funded?
kc does have its share of mongloids and i never want to underestimate this town
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2017, 08:31:57 PM
No. Nobody is claiming that or should believe that. Great point clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 30, 2017, 07:32:51 AM
No. Nobody is claiming that or should believe that. Great point clams.

oh sweet, two great points in a row, ty slyin' titola.
and yeah you guys are claiming that.  hence the concerted effort to trick the public.  you make a great kc sean spicer though, possible Halloween costume idea 4 u. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2017, 08:12:23 AM
No. Nobody is claiming that or should believe that. Great point clams.

oh sweet, two great points in a row, ty slyin' titola.
and yeah you guys are claiming that.  hence the concerted effort to trick the public.  you make a great kc sean spicer though, possible Halloween costume idea 4 u.
Good morning clams. We still doing this? Maybe take a little break until we hear what proposal was picked.....but to your point.

Plucked from betterkci.org

"If you don't fly, you don't pay."

The effort has been to show the KCMO general fund is not at risk. It's obviously a needed education as people don't grasp how airport financing works...including this blog.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 30, 2017, 08:23:34 AM
obviously people fully understand the financing and that's why sly & co have got their propaganda machine up and running full steam

plucked from betterkci.org

A Better KCI means
Increased access to more destinations no airline will guarantee that
A strong economic driver for regional growth and jobs  immeasurable marketing hype
Improved conveniences and amenities doesn't cost $1b to improve conveniences/amenities
Stronger airport security and modern technology stronger security isn't needed
KC keeps its major league city status for the next generation  lol, did you get hard when you came up with that line?
If you don’t fly, you don’t pay  not exactly true

^this is the best that our city government can come up with to sell the concept to the city who doesn't want this idea.  what's that tell you about the nitwits in charge?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 30, 2017, 08:34:27 AM
responses to clams responses in blue:

obviously people fully understand the financing and that's why sly & co have got their propaganda machine up and running full steam

plucked from betterkci.org

A Better KCI means
Increased access to more destinations no airline will guarantee that agreed
A strong economic driver for regional growth and jobs  immeasurable marketing hype you don't think building a brand new airport, (followed by staffing more restuarants and shops) will increase jobs?
Improved conveniences and amenities doesn't cost $1b to improve conveniences/amenities there is no room for post-security amenities in the current layout
Stronger airport security and modern technology stronger security isn't needed ok?
KC keeps its major league city status for the next generation  lol, did you get hard when you came up with that line? pretty sure phil wrote that
If you don’t fly, you don’t pay  not exactly true actually it is exactly true

^this is the best that our city government can come up with to sell the concept to the city who doesn't want this idea.  what's that tell you about the nitwits in charge?

imo the post-security amenities is where this thing will get won or lost. even people who don't want a new airport understand that once you get past security, our airport is laughably terrible. not enough room for everyone to sit, not enough bathrooms and/or awkward bathrooms where people are sitting less than a foot outside the smelly men's room, no food whatsover, etc.

and all that can't be fixed without a new terminal design.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2017, 08:46:59 AM
obviously people fully understand the financing and that's why sly & co have got their propaganda machine up and running full steam

plucked from betterkci.org

A Better KCI means
Increased access to more destinations no airline will guarantee that
A strong economic driver for regional growth and jobs  immeasurable marketing hype
Improved conveniences and amenities doesn't cost $1b to improve conveniences/amenities
Stronger airport security and modern technology stronger security isn't needed
KC keeps its major league city status for the next generation  lol, did you get hard when you came up with that line?
If you don’t fly, you don’t pay  not exactly true

^this is the best that our city government can come up with to sell the concept to the city who doesn't want this idea.  what's that tell you about the nitwits in charge?
I agree the benefit sell package should be better. I expect it to ramp up as the proposer is picked and they add to the mix. Vote is still 2+ months away
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 30, 2017, 08:51:40 AM
responses to clams responses in blue:

obviously people fully understand the financing and that's why sly & co have got their propaganda machine up and running full steam

plucked from betterkci.org

A Better KCI means
Increased access to more destinations no airline will guarantee that agreed
A strong economic driver for regional growth and jobs  immeasurable marketing hype you don't think building a brand new airport, (followed by staffing more restuarants and shops) will increase jobs? they're talking about bringing new business into kc, not staffing the inevitable airport popeye's register.  and the airport construction jobs, many of which are from out of towners, are temporary, not the type of job you spend a billion dollars trying to attract
Improved conveniences and amenities doesn't cost $1b to improve conveniences/amenities there is no room for post-security amenities in the current layoutfix the bathroom issue
Stronger airport security and modern technology stronger security isn't needed ok?it's not my selling point, it's theirs
KC keeps its major league city status for the next generation  lol, did you get hard when you came up with that line? pretty sure phil wrote thati would be shocked if he didn't
If you don’t fly, you don’t pay  not exactly true actually it is exactly trueactually it's not, anyone close to that airport will be paying

^this is the best that our city government can come up with to sell the concept to the city who doesn't want this idea.  what's that tell you about the nitwits in charge?

imo the post-security amenities is where this thing will get won or lost. even people who don't want a new airport understand that once you get past security, our airport is laughably terrible. not enough room for everyone to sit, not enough bathrooms and/or awkward bathrooms where people are sitting less than a foot outside the smelly men's room, no food whatsover, etc.

and all that can't be fixed without a new terminal design.

i have no problem with the current airport.  i don't go there to eat or shop and have no issue sitting in the nice leather chairs waiting to board while i post about how great our airport is on this #blessed board.  if slyin' wasn't so hard headed, we could have started the easy fixes a long time ago but he's being him.  there's a ton of space for amenities if they chose to open up the shuttered terminal but nope, a long list of excuses a mile long start bleeding out of their vags as to why they can't do that.  got to spend a billion, it's the only way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2017, 09:02:38 AM
responses to clams responses in blue:

obviously people fully understand the financing and that's why sly & co have got their propaganda machine up and running full steam

plucked from betterkci.org

A Better KCI means
Increased access to more destinations no airline will guarantee that agreed
A strong economic driver for regional growth and jobs  immeasurable marketing hype you don't think building a brand new airport, (followed by staffing more restuarants and shops) will increase jobs? they're talking about bringing new business into kc, not staffing the inevitable airport popeye's register.  and the airport construction jobs, many of which are from out of towners, are temporary, not the type of job you spend a billion dollars trying to attract
Improved conveniences and amenities doesn't cost $1b to improve conveniences/amenities there is no room for post-security amenities in the current layoutfix the bathroom issue
Stronger airport security and modern technology stronger security isn't needed ok?it's not my selling point, it's theirs
KC keeps its major league city status for the next generation  lol, did you get hard when you came up with that line? pretty sure phil wrote thati would be shocked if he didn't
If you don’t fly, you don’t pay  not exactly true actually it is exactly trueactually it's not, anyone close to that airport will be paying

^this is the best that our city government can come up with to sell the concept to the city who doesn't want this idea.  what's that tell you about the nitwits in charge?

imo the post-security amenities is where this thing will get won or lost. even people who don't want a new airport understand that once you get past security, our airport is laughably terrible. not enough room for everyone to sit, not enough bathrooms and/or awkward bathrooms where people are sitting less than a foot outside the smelly men's room, no food whatsover, etc.

and all that can't be fixed without a new terminal design.

i have no problem with the current airport.  i don't go there to eat or shop and have no issue sitting in the nice leather chairs waiting to board while i post about how great our airport is on this #blessed board.  if slyin' wasn't so hard headed, we could have started the easy fixes a long time ago but he's being him.  there's a ton of space for amenities if they chose to open up the shuttered terminal but nope, a long list of excuses a mile long start bleeding out of their vags as to why they can't do that.  got to spend a billion, it's the only way.
Here is how convenient KCI is from a family member this morning flying out on SWA. Terminal and circle lots full...economy lot bus full by B6 stop. Bathroom line 20 people long.

Anybody that tries to sell this as "shopping at the airport" simply hasn't educated themselves as to the issues at kci. Nobody cares about having a PGA store past security. Nobody.

The issue is the depth of the building doesn't allow for what modern airport terminals need between curb to pre security baggage check / customer service, security screening area, post security holding rooms (planes are getting bigger and kci enplanements are increasing), and gate line up areas...not to mention putting amenities in that post security area. It's not that A is empty and could be used...it is more of the same problem.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 30, 2017, 09:06:58 AM
Sad to see 'clams reduced to propaganda tactics generally reserved for slyin' james smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 30, 2017, 09:46:19 AM
so what's slyin' james motive in all this? he gonna get rich?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on August 30, 2017, 09:49:27 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-29/at-pittsburgh-airport-you-won-t-need-a-ticket-to-get-past-security
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 30, 2017, 09:49:47 AM
so what's slyin' james motive in all this? he gonna get rich?

(http://www.okroads.com/052205/us71atus56_06.JPG)

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2017, 10:41:53 AM
Every KCMO mayor gets something named after him/her. That maybe the dumbest conspiracy theory in all of this...yes even dumber than "this is all about shopping".

New terminal will be the Harry S. Truman termy anyways...unless it's KCI @cerner termy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2017, 10:44:30 AM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/36243930/charges-announced-in-connection-to-2-murders-along-indian-creek-trail

Looks like they caught the dude who was killing all those middle age white guys.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 30, 2017, 11:02:57 AM
Every KCMO mayor gets something named after him/her. That maybe the dumbest conspiracy theory in all of this...yes even dumber than "this is all about shopping".

New terminal will be the Harry S. Truman termy anyways...unless it's KCI @cerner termy

just the other day i dropped off some old broken furniture at the mark funkhouser memorial garbage dump
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 30, 2017, 12:30:14 PM
When do they announce the drawing that the Missouri people will vote on?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2017, 12:46:41 PM
When do they announce the drawing that the Missouri people will vote on?
One week from right now....technically the city will then enter into negotiations to get the MOU finalized and assuming that doesn't break downthinking October going to see a lot more (better) propoganda on why this is a good plan.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 30, 2017, 01:42:42 PM
having SW trafficway and Broadway both down to 1 lane at the same time is pretty F'ing terrible. clams any idea why slyin james would let this happen?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 30, 2017, 05:19:34 PM
having SW trafficway and Broadway both down to 1 lane at the same time is pretty F'ing terrible. clams any idea why slyin james would let this happen?

because he's an idiot?
it's affecting me too, complete and utter lack of planning by kcmo public works

they've had SW Trfwy stripped since the weekend, i guess now we wait a month for them to repave the mile of road that didn't need to be redone.  maybe with the repaving, less people will get shot in westport this weekend? #blessed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2017, 05:40:39 PM
Slyin James might be the biggest dumb eff of all time when it comes to construction plans, but yeah, let's have him lead us to a new airport. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2017, 05:47:28 PM
Slyin James might be the biggest dumb eff of all time when it comes to construction plans, but yeah, let's have him lead us to a new airport. :thumbs:

(http://e.lvme.me/v8ccqht.jpg)

Public Works needs to get bent if you ask me.  Deep state (city) who won't change their ways
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2017, 05:50:26 PM
Phil, when are you going to finally tell us that you work for the city?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2017, 05:58:16 PM
Phil, when are you going to finally tell us that you work for the city?

I'm workin' right now for the city. Thinkin' of holdin' on to the job for a while.  It's like... You know, it's money in my pocket.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 30, 2017, 06:08:02 PM
Slyin James might be the biggest dumb eff of all time when it comes to construction plans, but yeah, let's have him lead us to a new airport. :thumbs:

What a wackycat08 post  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2017, 06:13:16 PM
He has no say on how much of a cluster eff KCMO road construction is? :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 31, 2017, 10:16:00 AM
Sly does not enjoy tweets about the roads, I canco that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 31, 2017, 10:41:30 AM
He has no say on how much of a cluster eff KCMO road construction is? :confused:

like, whether Broadway should be reduced to one-lane is probably not a decision that comes across the mayor's desk.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2017, 10:43:39 AM
No, I'm pretty sure trump is personally directing the 435 construction
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 31, 2017, 10:45:18 AM
i wish slyin james could get the non-clusterfuck type of road construction in kcmo  :frown:
he's probably lining his pockets with piping hot asphalt as we speak
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2017, 10:50:34 AM
Sly does not enjoy tweets about the roads, I canco that
:thumbs: It's in his head because he knows it's trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
Our infrastructure is ancient and sucks  :angry: - kcmo residents

Why is there so much fixing of our infrastructure  :angry: - also kcmo residents

smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2017, 11:00:20 AM
I understand why ppl who drive short distances to work dgaf about construction. It makes sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2017, 11:09:43 AM
That commute from waldo to 435 and nall must be hell bro, T's&p's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 31, 2017, 11:22:25 AM
Our infrastructure is ancient and sucks  :angry: - kcmo residents

Why is there so much fixing of our infrastructure  :angry: - also kcmo residents

smdh
This.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
That commute from waldo to 435 and nall must be hell bro, T's&p's
It's more Wornall and the cluster eff on Brookside (outside of KC Bier) that pisses me off.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 31, 2017, 12:06:24 PM
The things that piss wacky off never cease to amaze
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 12:45:44 PM
10 years from now, instead of posting his grievances here, he will put them on facebook, and then we'll be able to copy/paste them into the appropriate thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2017, 01:15:46 PM
The things that piss wacky off never cease to amaze
I'm honestly a pretty laid back guy. I think I just take out my frustrations on the board.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 01:18:11 PM
seem really frustrated then for a laid back guy

#doyouwacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2017, 01:20:12 PM
The things that piss wacky off never cease to amaze
I'm honestly a pretty laid back guy. I think I just take out my frustrations on the board.  :dunno:

Me too dude  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 31, 2017, 01:20:37 PM
The commute in from Topeka is a breeze. Ts to those that don't have it so easy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2017, 01:21:55 PM
The things that piss wacky off never cease to amaze
I'm honestly a pretty laid back guy. I think I just take out my frustrations on the board.  :dunno:

Me too dude  :cheers:
:Cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2017, 01:26:47 PM
The commute in from Topeka is a breeze. Ts to those that don't have it so easy.

Did this for about 18 months, I once was pulled over for doing 110 in a 70 at 5:30 am. The officer threatened to ban me from the turnpike
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 31, 2017, 01:28:16 PM
Our infrastructure is ancient and sucks  :angry: - kcmo residents

Why is there so much fixing of our infrastructure  :angry: - also kcmo residents

smdh

not this.  bitching about poor planning by the city works dept doesn't equal bitching about finally fixing the infrastructure.  but like most slyin defenders, you're unable to see past any grievance against the city before your auto-defend mechanism kicks in and takes over your keyboard.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 31, 2017, 01:30:12 PM
The commute in from Topeka is a breeze. Ts to those that don't have it so easy.

Did this for about 18 months, I once was pulled over for doing 110 in a 70 at 5:30 am. The officer threatened to ban me from the turnpike
Haha wow. I had an undercover with visor lights race up to me on the 470 stretch to tell motion for me to slow down.

I generally don't go more than 8 over the speed limit.

It takes me 70 minutes to make it the 71 miles from home to the office. Supes easy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on August 31, 2017, 01:31:54 PM
That is insane
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 31, 2017, 01:32:42 PM
How much was that ticket, lib?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 31, 2017, 01:37:36 PM
Our infrastructure is ancient and sucks  :angry: - kcmo residents

Why is there so much fixing of our infrastructure  :angry: - also kcmo residents

smdh

not this.  bitching about poor planning by the city works dept doesn't equal bitching about finally fixing the infrastructure.  but like most slyin defenders, you're unable to see past any grievance against the city before your auto-defend mechanism kicks in and takes over your keyboard.

i was actually joking about the slyin james thing re: road construction  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 31, 2017, 01:39:26 PM
it could have been handled better, going either direction at rush hour is pretty pita
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2017, 01:40:01 PM
Much less than I expected, like $400 or $500, I don't really remember. It was a quite a long time ago.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 31, 2017, 01:41:50 PM
SWT resurfacing seemed super unnecessary
idk what the Broadway thing is, but it looked like it had to do with sewer/water service of some kind, so it was probably an unplanned emergency
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on August 31, 2017, 01:41:51 PM
Yikes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 31, 2017, 02:13:14 PM
it could have been handled better, going either direction at rush hour is pretty pita
3 minutes slower I'm guessing? Less?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 31, 2017, 02:15:24 PM
Our infrastructure is ancient and sucks  :angry: - kcmo residents

Why is there so much fixing of our infrastructure  :angry: - also kcmo residents

smdh

not this.  bitching about poor planning by the city works dept doesn't equal bitching about finally fixing the infrastructure.  but like most slyin defenders, you're unable to see past any grievance against the city before your auto-defend mechanism kicks in and takes over your keyboard.
There is a weird connection you are trying to make here that doesn't exist. Liking the mayor is not equal to thinking city services are running smoothly.  I've got more city beefs than most.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 31, 2017, 03:29:26 PM
I hate road construction.  I just don't blame the mayor for it. 

I also hated it when my neighbor's dog attacked the mailman and we didn't get mail for about 2 weeks.  And I don't blame the mayor for it. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on August 31, 2017, 04:36:22 PM
Piping hot take from belvis per usual
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 01, 2017, 07:34:06 AM
8th word out of this hotel developer's mouth:

https://twitter.com/kckansascity/status/903592312311250945
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 01, 2017, 08:07:42 AM
Can't wait for rail to drive development to our midtown friends.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 01, 2017, 08:20:48 AM
It will be amazing to watch Main st, which is obviously at 100% capacity, somehow magically find room for new develooment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 01, 2017, 08:21:09 AM
LOL ^
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 01, 2017, 08:31:55 AM
Lib, I took it up 110 for 7 seconds and put my fist out the window on my commute home last night. You're welcome.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 01, 2017, 09:35:37 AM
Lib, I took it up 110 for 7 seconds and put my fist out the window on my commute home last night. You're welcome.

hero
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 01, 2017, 11:34:59 AM
8th word out of this hotel developer's mouth:

https://twitter.com/kckansascity/status/903592312311250945

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzkOrdKUII
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 01, 2017, 05:09:46 PM
@kcfdcat The light and sound is so incredible, my heavens sakes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 02, 2017, 07:13:22 PM
@kcfdcat The light and sound is so incredible, my heavens sakes
All of those new ipa are delish. I can't get enough. 18th and loral 8s my fav if I don't want to get faced
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 03, 2017, 03:59:46 PM
Thanks guys, the new IPAs are pretty good, 18th and loral is my go to after work beer RN


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 03, 2017, 04:49:13 PM
this is odd and not a good sign for my preferred AECOM sexy design.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article170981342.html

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 04, 2017, 07:47:11 AM
There is no legitimate reason why airlines would care one bit about a "hometown team."  Zero.

Therefore, it's obvious that they have other reasons for preferring the Burns and Mac plan.  Judging by airline behavior in every other facet of life, I believe their reason is money, and money alone.  I am quite confident in this conclusion.

Now, why would the airlines make more money with the Burns and Mac plan?  This is the question that is most interesting to me.

Also, from the get go, I was in favor of giving Southwest a big seat at the design table on this, because it would be less likely that KC screws this up....so I have zero problem with the Airlines pushing this thing around.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 04, 2017, 08:56:53 AM
There is no legitimate reason why airlines would care one bit about a "hometown team."  Zero.

Therefore, it's obvious that they have other reasons for preferring the Burns and Mac plan.  Judging by airline behavior in every other facet of life, I believe their reason is money, and money alone.  I am quite confident in this conclusion.

Now, why would the airlines make more money with the Burns and Mac plan?  This is the question that is most interesting to me.

Also, from the get go, I was in favor of giving Southwest a big seat at the design table on this, because it would be less likely that KC screws this up....so I have zero problem with the Airlines pushing this thing around.

I agree with that.  they are the ones signing the lease, they should have a big voice.  that said I don't buy the "hometown team" thing either.  Weren't both bids close on the money side?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on September 04, 2017, 09:02:28 AM
Why do they keep calling it KCI in that article?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 04, 2017, 11:44:22 AM
Why do they keep calling it KCI in that article?

Bugs the crap out of me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 04, 2017, 11:50:01 AM
Those are the initials of the name of the airport (Kansas City International)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 04, 2017, 11:55:42 AM
Those are the initials of the name of the airport (Kansas City International)
Makes me wonder what seven has been calling Kansas City International all these years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 04, 2017, 11:56:22 AM
Probably Missouri City International. What a doofus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 04, 2017, 11:57:59 AM
News flash: it's Mid-Continent International.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 04, 2017, 11:58:16 AM
So much cooler than Kansas City International
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 04, 2017, 11:58:22 AM
:flush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 04, 2017, 12:26:32 PM
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 05, 2017, 09:29:13 AM
All you SWA fanboys may want to look to move to St Louis

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/904898329515044864
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 05, 2017, 09:44:09 AM
anyone been to mission taco joint yet?  pretty expensive for street tacos, i think i'll pass.  also looks too fancy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 05, 2017, 09:45:31 AM
i'll also take a pass on moving to st louis, their airport sucks ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 05, 2017, 10:00:40 AM
anyone been to mission taco joint yet?  pretty expensive for street tacos, i think i'll pass.  also looks too fancy.
Had someone run over there will we pak'd at double shift. They reported quality food. Menu looks really good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on September 05, 2017, 11:38:24 AM
anyone been to mission taco joint yet?  pretty expensive for street tacos, i think i'll pass.  also looks too fancy.
Had someone run over there will we pak'd at double shift. They reported quality food. Menu looks really good.

Went once, very good. Not Taco Via level good but still really good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 05, 2017, 01:18:01 PM
wackycat, i found your new super hipstery authentic af beer spot: it's called international tap house and it's a chain where you can hear 90's standards like bittersweet symphony, and all employees wear matching shirts!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 05, 2017, 03:29:14 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 05, 2017, 09:28:20 PM
Mission taco is increds but it is very expensive for street tacos.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 08:52:24 AM
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/another-conflict-of-interest-claim-further-tangles-kci-design-selection

these rough ridin' clowns, man...you just have to laugh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 08:58:37 AM
so some intern at aecom seduced one of the city's lawyers for some inside info? wow this story has finally got some sex appeal!   :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 08:59:04 AM
is there a 30 for 30 type series about airports?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 12:23:48 PM
Burns and Mac now whining is my favorite part of this story....so far.

News at 1:30 probably announcing winning bid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 06, 2017, 12:27:10 PM
wackycat, i found your new super hipstery authentic af beer spot: it's called international tap house and it's a chain where you can hear 90's standards like bittersweet symphony, and all employees wear matching shirts!
That sounds like my jam! :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
i announced the winning bid weeks ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 12:35:32 PM
Burns and Mac? I'll take that bet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2017, 12:39:36 PM
Support the local option  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
you shouldn't be placing bets using a city owned computer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 12:41:35 PM
you shouldn't be placing bets using a city owned computer
https://media.giphy.com/media/KJmORsw9VYFQQ/giphy.gif
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 06, 2017, 01:26:01 PM
you shouldn't be placing bets using a city owned computer
https://media.giphy.com/media/KJmORsw9VYFQQ/giphy.gif

(https://media.giphy.com/media/KJmORsw9VYFQQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 02:27:42 PM
edgemoor was picked for recommendation to the full council.  what their proposal looks like is anybody's guess b/c it's not publicly available anywhere
they're out of maryland

Quote
According to a news release from the City of Kansas City, selection committee members are recommending the proposer due to its experience with high-profile airport terminals nationwide (but the other developers have similar experience, so???)

edgemoor has experience in design, build and privately financed projects, and its owner Clark Construction Group, a $4 billion firm, has a long history with aviation projects, starting with Atlanta Hartsfield International Airport in 1975. The firm is currently doing work for airport projects at Dulles International Airport and Ronald Reagan National Airport, both in Washington D.C.

Quote
its collaborative approach to the design process (were other developers believed to be non-collaborative? seems counter intuitive as a developer ), and a plan that would deliver the terminal at the best price (even though they didn't share any financing information during their presentation last month).

let the fun begin

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
So not bmd but 'clams is still angry?  smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 02:48:17 PM
i would think that as a new airport supporter, you would be interested in your elected officials reasoning behind why they chose this plan over the others but then i'm reminding that some in KC like to throw blind support behind city hall and hope for the best.  it's the kansas city way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 02:48:53 PM
classic slyin james technique with the ol bait n switcherooski
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 02:50:38 PM
edges are hard and sharp, and moors are soft and round, wtf?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2017, 03:08:46 PM
I'm a known bmd'r 'clams smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 03:18:23 PM
So lying sly was in bed with burns and Mac the whole time? Weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 03:30:47 PM
So lying sly was in bed with burns and Mac the whole time? Weird.

no that was an elaborate ruse
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 03:36:45 PM
3d chess man. 3d chess.

Seems like a well qualified bidder...hope we see the pretty pictures soon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 04:25:25 PM
one thing we know for sure is slyin james was in cahoots with these paradoxically named marylanders from the getgo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 04:54:45 PM
I guess delta is leaving cvg behind

https://twitter.com/INDairport/status/905492909784535040
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2017, 05:12:56 PM
T's and P's to B & M employees
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 06, 2017, 06:15:43 PM
T's and P's to B & M employees

I'm doing fine, not my group
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 06:30:16 PM
surprised no one here is curious as to how this team, who didn't disclose their financing plans, won the bid.  did they even have cool pictures? 

weird that it's all jokes and stuff when you guys obviously care so much about your city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 06:33:48 PM
i mean, this was the only one of the bids not made public and it won, seems legit?

good ol' slyin' james' brand of "vantablack politics"



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
surprised no one here is curious as to how this team, who didn't disclose their financing plans, won the bid.  did they even have cool pictures? 

weird that it's all jokes and stuff when you guys obviously care so much about your city

They didn't disclose it to public but the city has now posted it for your viewing pleasure

kcmo.gov/newkci

I'm glad the city didn't bow to "hometown" team BS or threats of lawsuits or just the pretty pictures...they picked what they thought was the best financial proposal for the city/lessees.  I was swayed by the AECOM pretty pictures no doubt and still they are my top pick.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2017, 06:42:14 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/98xbxvp9aa2c5l5/Edgemoor%20-%20Financial%20Proposal.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/98xbxvp9aa2c5l5/Edgemoor%20-%20Financial%20Proposal.pdf?dl=0)

someone give me the dax version of the financials
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 06:45:07 PM
i mean, this was the only one of the bids not made public and it won, seems legit?

good ol' slyin' james' brand of "vantablack politics"

Here now are all 'clams deleted draft post for whomever won the bid.

AECOM - "I knew Sly would give in to the biggest company with the biggest lawyers...that's slyin' James for you.  Knew he had Husch Blackwell in his pocket.

JLL - Worst proposed design and won?  Seems legit. 

B&M - well this is a huge surprise.  I predicted slyin' james would make sure they won weeks ago. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 06:46:59 PM
Not all lower case. FAKE NEWS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 08:36:21 PM
surprised no one here is curious as to how this team, who didn't disclose their financing plans, won the bid.  did they even have cool pictures? 

weird that it's all jokes and stuff when you guys obviously care so much about your city

They didn't disclose it to public but the city has now posted it for your viewing pleasure

kcmo.gov/newkci

I'm glad the city didn't bow to "hometown" team BS or threats of lawsuits or just the pretty pictures...they picked what they thought was the best financial proposal for the city/lessees.  I was swayed by the AECOM pretty pictures no doubt and still they are my top pick.

yeah I read it earlier, there's very little direction or detail in it but at least it's actual letters that form words on paper


those of you walking the streets of downtown KC with billion dollar boners should be pretty disappointed in this selection, would have been a much easier sell to the public (who doesn't want the new airport) if a hometown team was awarded the bid and that's why i was convinced it would go to one.  of course, having an actual strategy would be giving this committee and council too much credit.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 06, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
I hope it's revealed someday that Phil is a Clams sock
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 08:40:19 PM
but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2017, 08:41:17 PM
I hope it's revealed someday that Phil is a Clams sock

i've got some decent socks on this board but not even i could come up with some of the crap that he does
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 06, 2017, 08:48:16 PM
Drat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 09:11:57 PM
but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

dont' be angry clams, what do you want to discuss on the proposal? 

* How about it's backed by a hugely successful Meridiam p3 financier?
* Two local construction firms are part of the bid (Weitz and Clarkson)
* It's total cost and monthly cost to airlines is below max, actually one of the better ones, and hence better for user fees (that you were very concerned about)
* They have SOM as an actual architecture firm
* selection committee wasn't swayed by pretty pictures (like I am still with AECOM's)
* Terminal done in 4Q21
* This was SWAs prefer proposal

I still want to see more details of how the selection committee decided on this proposal, as Quinton Lucas has called for. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 09:12:54 PM
I hope it's revealed someday that Phil is a Clams sock

Maybe he's mine  :Rusty:

clams and I agree on more than we let on here...don't get gE get in the way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2017, 09:13:48 PM
So what's the next hurdle for this thing? Vote in November by the plebians?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2017, 09:17:24 PM
but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

dont' be angry clams, what do you want to discuss on the proposal? 

* How about it's backed by a hugely successful Meridiam p3 financier?
* Two local construction firms are part of the bid (Weitz and Clarkson)
* It's total cost and monthly cost to airlines is below max, actually one of the better ones, and hence better for user fees (that you were very concerned about)
* They have SOM as an actual architecture firm
* selection committee wasn't swayed by pretty pictures (like I am still with AECOM's)
* Terminal done in 4Q21
* This was SWAs prefer proposal

I still want to see more details of how the selection committee decided on this proposal, as Quinton Lucas has called for.

 :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 06, 2017, 09:17:35 PM
I hope it's revealed someday that Phil is a Clams sock

Maybe he's mine  :Rusty:

clams and I agree on more than we let on here...don't get gE get in the way.
I've met clams. Never met you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 09:20:39 PM
So what's the next hurdle for this thing? Vote in November by the plebians?

council accepts recommendation and let's city proceed with agreeing to MOU (next week or two for that)

MOU agreed to & SOM releases some sexy renderings (hopefully before vote)

November 7 vote

New terminal 2021

clams & I crush some white russians waiting for our direct to LHR.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 06, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

dont' be angry clams, what do you want to discuss on the proposal? 

* How about it's backed by a hugely successful Meridiam p3 financier?
* Two local construction firms are part of the bid (Weitz and Clarkson)
* It's total cost and monthly cost to airlines is below max, actually one of the better ones, and hence better for user fees (that you were very concerned about)
* They have SOM as an actual architecture firm
* selection committee wasn't swayed by pretty pictures (like I am still with AECOM's)
* Terminal done in 4Q21
* This was SWAs prefer proposal

I still want to see more details of how the selection committee decided on this proposal, as Quinton Lucas has called for.

I do have concerns how small Edgemoor appears to be.  They don't seem to have projects of this scale in their portfolio....which is why organizations like SOM were brought in vs. what could be done in house at AECOM / B&M?  Can any of you cat engineering dudes break down the risk of a smaller firm doing this project?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 06, 2017, 10:42:17 PM
but enjoy this win, you slyin' nut huggin bastards, i'm not wrong often

so funny, you've all spent your time since the announcement waving your finger at me and laughing instead of discussing anything relevant to the actual company being recommended or their (lack of) proposal

dont' be angry clams, what do you want to discuss on the proposal? 

* How about it's backed by a hugely successful Meridiam p3 financier?
* Two local construction firms are part of the bid (Weitz and Clarkson)
* It's total cost and monthly cost to airlines is below max, actually one of the better ones, and hence better for user fees (that you were very concerned about)
* They have SOM as an actual architecture firm
* selection committee wasn't swayed by pretty pictures (like I am still with AECOM's)
* Terminal done in 4Q21
* This was SWAs prefer proposal

I still want to see more details of how the selection committee decided on this proposal, as Quinton Lucas has called for.

I do have concerns how small Edgemoor appears to be.  They don't seem to have projects of this scale in their portfolio....which is why organizations like SOM were brought in vs. what could be done in house at AECOM / B&M?  Can any of you cat engineering dudes break down the risk of a smaller firm doing this project?
SOM is good. IMO, it works out better in the end to have the Developer / Architect / Civil / MEP as somewhat separate firms rather than under one umbrella. Haven't paid any attention to any of these bids, but I'm excited that MCI is getting fixed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 11:44:52 PM
Clams is amazing itt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: halfEmpty on September 07, 2017, 07:27:16 AM
I worked at AECOM for 9 years (5 in KC), and while they do have a pretty big office in KC and a good architecture group(formerly Ellerbe Beckett), I don't think anyone there does airport design.  At least when I was there, they did mostly stadiums and hospitals.  So the "local" presence there didn't mean a whole lot since most of the design work would've been farmed out to LA and a few other offices.  Now, generally they will "relocate" a team of people working on a major project, so there would be a handful living and working in KC while the project was going on.  Kindof how I was "relocated" to Michigan for a couple years.  If you count living in a hotel relocated.

Have never even heard of the firm that had their proposal selected.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 08:25:20 AM
Will a new airport be enough to lure Amazon's headquarters2?

I hope so  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 07, 2017, 08:39:26 AM
Will a new airport be enough to lure Amazon's headquarters2?

I hope so  :excited:

KC Metro is perfect. 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/07/technology/amazon-second-headquarters/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/07/technology/amazon-second-headquarters/index.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 07, 2017, 08:44:00 AM
I thought SWA backed the B&M design?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 08:44:16 AM
I worked at AECOM for 9 years (5 in KC), and while they do have a pretty big office in KC and a good architecture group(formerly Ellerbe Beckett), I don't think anyone there does airport design.  At least when I was there, they did mostly stadiums and hospitals.  So the "local" presence there didn't mean a whole lot since most of the design work would've been farmed out to LA and a few other offices.  Now, generally they will "relocate" a team of people working on a major project, so there would be a handful living and working in KC while the project was going on.  Kindof how I was "relocated" to Michigan for a couple years.  If you count living in a hotel relocated.

Have never even heard of the firm that had their proposal selected.

Hyatt :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 08:45:29 AM
Will a new airport be enough to lure Amazon's headquarters2?

I hope so  :excited:

KC Metro is perfect. 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/07/technology/amazon-second-headquarters/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/07/technology/amazon-second-headquarters/index.html)
They should go to atl
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 08:57:56 AM
Can you imagine how pissed wackycat08 would be with the massive property value increase if that happened
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 07, 2017, 09:00:54 AM
with the new whole foods going in at 51st and main street, the new amazon HQ2 seems like a perfect fit for kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ShellShock on September 07, 2017, 09:03:37 AM
I am glad that KCMO didn't pick the shady B&M proposal.

Time for JOCO to fire up their own airport campaign and bring it to the KS side.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 09:20:13 AM
Can you imagine how pissed wackycat08 would be with the massive property value increase if that happened

lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 07, 2017, 09:46:23 AM
Can anyone tell me why getting around the 2nd largest city in the US is so painful (Obviously) When it comes to traffic, but you can hop through LAX Southwest Security in 2 seconds every time? The math just doesn't add up to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2017, 09:55:45 AM
I thought SWA backed the B&M design?
They changed their tune Sunday or Monday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2017, 09:57:14 AM
Will a new airport be enough to lure Amazon's headquarters2?

I hope so  :excited:
Seems like a perfect fit for the removal of the north loop. They are going to get every incentive in the book thrown at them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
Will a new airport be enough to lure Amazon's headquarters2?

I hope so  :excited:
Seems like a perfect fit for the removal of the north loop. They are going to get every incentive in the book thrown at them.

Omg spooge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 11:05:46 AM
lolwut? this is going to be a trillion ft^2 olathe type thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 07, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
they should build it on slyin' james' back, he's been carrying this city on it since 1951.  am i right, fellas? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 07, 2017, 11:43:03 AM
KC should absolutely sell their soul to amazon if that's what they ask for. Give them every incentive they could ever ask for to come here. Could be a game changer for the city/region


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 07, 2017, 12:03:13 PM
Amazon is going to buy Sprint (telecom market) and Cerner (electronic health record market) so HQ2 should definitely be in kansas city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2017, 12:23:12 PM
Brownback might actually pay Amazon to put that thing over by the race track.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 12:23:42 PM
Brownback is gone already, a plastic surgeon is gov now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2017, 12:24:19 PM
Amazon is going to buy Sprint (telecom market) and Cerner (electronic health record market) so HQ2 should definitely be in kansas city


This is a really good idea, actually.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2017, 12:25:22 PM
Brownback is gone already, a plastic surgeon is gov now


Seriously?  I stopped watching the news, and don't read anything local.  I had no idea. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 07, 2017, 12:26:18 PM
buying sprint is a really bad idea
they're in a death spiral that can't be fixed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 12:28:00 PM
He's trump's religious ambassador now (seriously lol)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2017, 12:37:28 PM
buying sprint is a really bad idea
they're in a death spiral that can't be fixed


Amazon should buy it on the courthouse steps, take the frequencies, and strap wifi on drones.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2017, 12:49:33 PM
lolwut? this is going to be a trillion ft^2 olathe type thing
Lot of land about to free up when that north loop goes away. Look at what they've done in seattle
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 07, 2017, 01:12:48 PM
Sprint is looking to sell over half the campus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 01:13:59 PM
Amazon is looking for space for 50k people, not 5k
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 07, 2017, 01:17:01 PM
JFC, I just bought a house on the KS side to get away from these expansion monsters trying to drive up the cost of living. Stay out of KS!!! :curse: :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 07, 2017, 01:27:26 PM
they're gonna put the new airport right by wacky's suburb house, gon be loud af
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 07, 2017, 01:29:30 PM
amazon will see the diverging diamonds and laugh uncontrollably before cancelling their new KC HQ2 idea

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 01:30:37 PM
KC should absolutely sell their soul to amazon if that's what they ask for. Give them every incentive they could ever ask for to come here. Could be a game changer for the city/region

every city will do that tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 07, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
they're gonna put the new airport right by wacky's suburb house, gon be loud af
:bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2017, 01:55:23 PM
they're gonna put the new airport right by wacky's suburb house, gon be loud af
:bang:


Is there a different thread detail the new Wacky homestead?  I saw you mention SMS, but are we talking east side or west side of Metcalf?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 07, 2017, 02:07:45 PM
West of Metcalf. Less than a mile north of the new Grinders. Still a KC thing.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 07, 2017, 02:11:30 PM
West of Metcalf. Less than a mile north of the new Grinders. Still a KC thing.  :cheers:

Ah, I am East side.  Better access to jogging trail murders and various comicons.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 07, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
 :lol: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 07, 2017, 02:21:38 PM
KC should absolutely sell their soul to amazon if that's what they ask for. Give them every incentive they could ever ask for to come here. Could be a game changer for the city/region

every city will do that tho

no city is as good at it as we are though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 02:45:02 PM
KC should absolutely sell their soul to amazon if that's what they ask for. Give them every incentive they could ever ask for to come here. Could be a game changer for the city/region

every city will do that tho

no city is as good at it as we are though

Sounds promising  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on September 07, 2017, 02:53:44 PM
JFC, I just bought a house on the KS side to get away from these expansion monsters trying to drive up the cost of living. Stay out of KS!!! :curse: :shakesfist:

Stand strong Wacky!  Don't let them drive up the value of that house of yours!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 07, 2017, 03:05:27 PM
they're gonna put the new airport right by wacky's suburb house, gon be loud af
:bang:

At least if it's really loud, your property value will go down.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 07, 2017, 03:07:51 PM
JFC, I just bought a house on the KS side to get away from these expansion monsters trying to drive up the cost of living. Stay out of KS!!! :curse: :shakesfist:

Stand strong Wacky!  Don't let them drive up the value of that house of yours!
;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 07, 2017, 03:38:22 PM
https://twitter.com/KCMO/status/905892829003747328
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2017, 03:49:23 PM
Like clams said.... We've been training for this moment for the last 40 years of giving away incentives. #onekc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
Dream scenario: kc lands hq2, bezos says the streetcar was the deciding factor over austin  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 03:58:06 PM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2017, 03:58:06 PM
Dream scenario: kc lands hq2, bezos says the streetcar was the deciding factor over austin  :love:
New kci termy will be the edge we need
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 03:58:37 PM
amazon would never come here with our airport as small timey as it is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 07, 2017, 05:50:40 PM
KC can't even get a decent hotel convention center to the finish line but amazon hq2 is in the grasp :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 05:54:58 PM
Our airport doesn't have a place to eat but we'll get amazon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 07, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
It has many places to eat you dolt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 07, 2017, 06:18:57 PM
 :blank:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2017, 06:26:27 PM
Build a new airport and give it to Amazon as a gift.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
I should say nowhere to eat that doesn't have a GD ampersand in the name
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 07, 2017, 07:13:53 PM
Build a new airport and give it to Amazon as a gift.
i'd sign that deal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 08, 2017, 09:23:59 AM
Amazon international airport.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on September 08, 2017, 06:51:32 PM
http://splinternews.com/amazons-new-headquarters-should-be-in-hell-1802701693
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 10, 2017, 02:09:58 PM
is slyin james done repaving sw trafficway yet? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 10, 2017, 03:21:40 PM
is slyin james done repaving sw trafficway yet?
Yep
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 01:45:11 PM
Rustbelt dying Pittsburgh (lovely city) adding new $1B landside terminal building to airside terminal built in 1992..no vote.

1972 kci is fine.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2017, 02:02:08 PM
agreed, it's amazing what those involved with planning MCI pulled together in our great city.  what great foresight they had
in many respects, mci is arrowhead's sister.  both were born in 1972 and with a haircut and trip to the spa every now and again, they look and function as great as many of the "teeny-boppers" half their age and both are considered best in class by many many people.

but- calling it "1972 kci" is a little unfair to the quarter billion we spent on it a little over a decade ago (those award winning terrazzo floors!), or the $6M we're currently spending
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 02:42:28 PM
agreed, it's amazing what those involved with planning MCI pulled together in our great city.  what great foresight they had
in many respects, mci is arrowhead's sister.  both were born in 1972 and with a haircut and trip to the spa every now and again, they look and function as great as many of the "teeny-boppers" half their age and both are considered best in class by many many people.

but- calling it "1972 kci" is a little unfair to the quarter billion we spent on it a little over a decade ago (those award winning terrazzo floors!), or the $6M we're currently spending
Kemper is the example you are searching for...even including the wasteful turd polishing money.

Those floors are nice though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2017, 03:03:09 PM
My ole gym. Godspeed Waldo friends.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/36352367/body-discovered-inside-car-outside-trader-joes-on-ward-parkway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 03:06:08 PM
My ole gym. Godspeed Waldo friends.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/36352367/body-discovered-inside-car-outside-trader-joes-on-ward-parkway
Idiotic local news....dies of natural causes but still runs the quote talking about the neighborhood being safe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 13, 2017, 03:10:54 PM
Quote
Special ballots cost 1 MILLION dollars for each one. Can't they just gather them all up and do them once a year?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2017, 03:40:41 PM
agreed, it's amazing what those involved with planning MCI pulled together in our great city.  what great foresight they had
in many respects, mci is arrowhead's sister.  both were born in 1972 and with a haircut and trip to the spa every now and again, they look and function as great as many of the "teeny-boppers" half their age and both are considered best in class by many many people.

but- calling it "1972 kci" is a little unfair to the quarter billion we spent on it a little over a decade ago (those award winning terrazzo floors!), or the $6M we're currently spending
Kemper is the example you are searching for...even including the wasteful turd polishing money.

Those floors are nice though.

nope, i was talking about arrowhead.  both perfect for what they are.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
agreed, it's amazing what those involved with planning MCI pulled together in our great city.  what great foresight they had
in many respects, mci is arrowhead's sister.  both were born in 1972 and with a haircut and trip to the spa every now and again, they look and function as great as many of the "teeny-boppers" half their age and both are considered best in class by many many people.

but- calling it "1972 kci" is a little unfair to the quarter billion we spent on it a little over a decade ago (those award winning terrazzo floors!), or the $6M we're currently spending
Kemper is the example you are searching for...even including the wasteful turd polishing money.

Those floors are nice though.

nope, i was talking about arrowhead.  both perfect for what they are.
Speaking of Arrowhead. I hadn't been there in a couple years but man have the concourses always been that dark? The beer selection was also unacceptable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2017, 03:50:21 PM
lol. What was the beer selection? Who do you think they're targeting? JOCO housewives?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 13, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
Concourse size and brightness is probably dead last on things a person should care about with a stade
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 04:07:31 PM
Concourse size and brightness is probably dead last on things a person should care about with a stade
Width is important but yeah it was just an observation of something I didn't remember from my days at Arrowhead...not a reasoning for a new stadium...I think Arrowhead is pretty great for football.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 13, 2017, 04:08:19 PM
oh no the U2 crowd didn't like the beer selection  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 04:08:56 PM
lol. What was the beer selection? Who do you think they're targeting? JOCO housewives?
I couldn't find any Blvd at all. Lots of BL...I don't know a lot of joco housewives so I didn't know they were into craft beers. Thought that was dudes who like sports like me?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 04:10:01 PM
oh no the U2 crowd didn't like the beer selection  :buh-bye:
Weird triggering on a throw away comment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 13, 2017, 04:11:08 PM
yeah there was only bud light everywhere, p weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2017, 04:11:55 PM
(http://images.syndctn.com.s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/2016/06/7326e18e4ef14598f064bff9d47f3e4a.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 13, 2017, 04:12:11 PM
Its the truman sports complex not hopcat sheesh guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 13, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
phil have you ever been to a night game before?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 13, 2017, 04:15:00 PM
Its the truman sports complex not hopcat sheesh guys

well kauffman has a great beer inventory. i guess it's just reason #67013 why baseball fans are smarter than football fans
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
Its the truman sports complex not hopcat sheesh guys
Royals have stepped up their game even outside C&D.  Must not be in as much demand at Arrowhead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2017, 04:16:14 PM
A lot of ppl missing a great Beck post by wacky ITT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 04:16:28 PM
phil have you ever been to a night game before?
Chiefs? Not for a few years.... Maybe that year they unveiled the upgrades?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2017, 04:19:31 PM
oh no the U2 crowd didn't like the beer selection  :buh-bye:
:ROFL:

CanCo I've had a Blvd beer at Arrowhead. Maybe they had a different selection for U2 fans.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 04:20:52 PM
oh no the U2 crowd didn't like the beer selection  :buh-bye:
:ROFL:

CanCo I've had a Blvd beer at Arrowhead. Maybe they had a different selection for U2 fans.
I was up the slum seats so that maybe it too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2017, 04:22:33 PM
Alcohol contracts might be different between the chiefs and events at Arrowhead. IDK how it works tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
the jackson county sports authority (corrupt AF) somehow thinks it's beneficial to jackson county residents to only allow ztrip on property for events, no uber while at the same time charging $40 for parking

these rough ridin' downgrades
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 04:44:04 PM
the jackson county sports authority (corrupt AF) somehow thinks it's beneficial to jackson county residents to only allow ztrip on property for events, no uber while at the same time charging $40 for parking

these rough ridin' downgrades
Yes. Not pleased with this. Especially with Bill George getting the "agreement"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2017, 04:47:57 PM
They can drop you off at the gate and you can walk from there, right? I know they make us do that from time to time with the Royals and Chiefs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2017, 05:27:31 PM
They can drop you off at the gate and you can walk from there, right? I know they make us do that from time to time with the Royals and Chiefs.
Yeah they drop and pick up at the visitors center across the street from taco Bell
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 13, 2017, 05:31:12 PM
Ztrip to tbell then Uber  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on September 13, 2017, 07:48:11 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/09/upshot/where-should-amazon-new-headquarters-be.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 13, 2017, 07:53:27 PM
New York slimes  :jerk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 13, 2017, 08:48:34 PM
I agree with that article except I think they sold charlotte a little short
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 13, 2017, 09:41:20 PM
I might be in KC again on Saturday!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2017, 09:48:02 PM
If you kids ever need a place to stay, we have plenty of space. It will only cost you an Uber. Let me know.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 13, 2017, 10:12:03 PM
Bunk beds?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 14, 2017, 08:10:09 AM
If you kids ever need a place to stay, we have plenty of space. It will only cost you an Uber. Let me know.

wacky- of course there's plenty of space in north tulsa but part of the punishment that comes with moving to the suburbs is having to deal with the seclusion of living in the suburbs.  sorry bud, see you guys when you become empty nesters and move back to civilization. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:24:26 AM
 :D It's so peaceful in my empty dungeon tho. So much space for activities and such. I made a fort last night out of k-state blankets and pillows and binged on bates motel. It's the life I never wanted, but love now as a crippled married man who wants ppl off his lawn.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 14, 2017, 08:28:50 AM
TBT gets an invite but not I? Smdh Wacky. Smmfdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:31:05 AM
I've invited you before, silly. Plus that invite was to anyone barring gE colors, even my worst enemies on this board.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 14, 2017, 08:33:28 AM
Even meow meow?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:34:21 AM
Even meow meow?
We've been like best buds in 2017. I think he finally got on #TeamFanning or just started to accept me.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 14, 2017, 08:34:21 AM
I've invited you before, silly. Plus that invite was to anyone barring gE colors, even my worst enemies on this board.
Hahahaha oh I know. I appreciate it, WackMaster General. :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:34:52 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2017, 08:35:31 AM
If you kids ever need a place to stay, we have plenty of space. It will only cost you an Uber. Let me know.

wacky- of course there's plenty of space in north tulsa but part of the punishment that comes with moving to the suburbs is having to deal with the seclusion of living in the suburbs.  sorry bud, see you guys when you become empty nesters and move back to civilization.
This is a good post.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:37:57 AM
Of course you think so. Anyone still trying to chase tail ('Clams excluded) needs to be in thriving spaces. Myself included. I'm OK with the slower life in my spacious mansion now that I've planted the K-State flag in Mrs. Wacky's baby maker.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:40:15 AM
Looking forward to the day where some filly whips Phil and he moves away from downtown and he's got nothing else to contribute to this board. #ElitePhilStuff
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2017, 08:42:43 AM
Looking forward to the day where some filly whips Phil and he moves away from downtown and he's got nothing else to contribute to this board. #ElitePhilStuff
The pictures we make in our mind on this BBS.

It's a good post because I've had friends jump to the burbs then mad because I won't go hang out at BWW with them. Sorry bro, you left...get your butt in an Uber.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:46:34 AM
I doubt they're really missing you that badly. 'Clams won't even leave the plaza unless he's heading to 90210. So I don't know if you want to hang on his coattails. Acting like we live in China is absurd. I'm near I-35. At this point in our life, no one is clamoring for overpriced beer at PNL. We actually have craft beer down here too, unlike Arrowhead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
I don't like this anger WC. :Cheers: bud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2017, 08:49:14 AM
what on earth  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:49:33 AM
No anger, just think it's silly for ppl to act like people are selling out in their mid 30's to buy mansions in the OP.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 14, 2017, 08:51:05 AM
This took a turn pretty quickly...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 08:52:11 AM
What turn?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 14, 2017, 08:53:56 AM
A weird one.

You don't need to justify your suburban life bud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 14, 2017, 10:11:24 AM
Wackster, you're doing great. I for one hope to enjoy a frosty cold beer (craft) while watching oscar Weber's Wildcats at your place with the entire GE gang this winter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 10:12:00 AM
 :thumbs: :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 14, 2017, 10:19:59 AM
SCENE: Wacky's man cave and we're all watching K-State vs TCU hoops on the big screen

mocat: "Hey Wacky, any more of those pizza rolls coming up? They are delicious!"
WC08: "You bet bud! I just put another 12 in the oven!"
Phil: "Wacky I love your house, the ample parking is great on the street, makes up for the fact the street car doesn't come this far south or west!"
(everyone lol's)
WC08: "haha good point Phil, hey CF3 would you like another craft beer? I have a 6 pack of boulevard wheat in the garage fridge"
CF3: "yes sir wackster, I'll help myself"
lib7: "Wacky, can I have the recipe for...."

WC08 HOLDS A SINGLE FINGER TO HIS LIPS AND HOLDS UP HIS OTHER HAND IN A STOP TALKING MOTION.
The sound of a car driving into the garage is heard......

WC08: "Oh no! Mrs WC says I can't have people over on weeknights! Quick, every out the back door. Man oh man I'm sleeping on the couch again tonight."

We all run out the back and then throw snowballs at Wackster's house until he calls the Lenexa PD.


END SCENE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 14, 2017, 10:22:20 AM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 10:22:37 AM
 :lol: :excited: :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 10:24:02 AM
To be fair, TCU during the week sounds like a Tuesday contest on ESPNU to me.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 14, 2017, 10:25:09 AM
white castle coming to the legends  :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
white castle coming to the legends  :drool:

DYK?


the tiny little baby Buffalo Mane barber shop on Grand used to be a white castle?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2017, 10:30:59 AM
white castle coming to the legends  :drool:

DYK?


the tiny little baby Buffalo Mane barber shop on Grand used to be a white castle?
You can find Phil there getting a chop once a month. Great people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2017, 10:31:55 AM
white castle coming to the legends  :drool:
Exciting...and glad it's far enough away I won't make myself sick too often...but coming back from MHK might be just the place to stop!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 14, 2017, 11:07:47 AM
SCENE: Wacky's man cave and we're all watching K-State vs TCU hoops on the big screen

mocat: "Hey Wacky, any more of those pizza rolls coming up? They are delicious!"
WC08: "You bet bud! I just put another 12 in the oven!"
Phil: "Wacky I love your house, the ample parking is great on the street, makes up for the fact the street car doesn't come this far south or west!"
(everyone lol's)
WC08: "haha good point Phil, hey CF3 would you like another craft beer? I have a 6 pack of boulevard wheat in the garage fridge"
CF3: "yes sir wackster, I'll help myself"
lib7: "Wacky, can I have the recipe for...."

WC08 HOLDS A SINGLE FINGER TO HIS LIPS AND HOLDS UP HIS OTHER HAND IN A STOP TALKING MOTION.
The sound of a car driving into the garage is heard......

WC08: "Oh no! Mrs WC says I can't have people over on weeknights! Quick, every out the back door. Man oh man I'm sleeping on the couch again tonight."

We all run out the back and then throw snowballs at Wackster's house until he calls the Lenexa PD.


END SCENE

 :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 14, 2017, 11:44:34 AM
I've never had white castle but I imagine it's disgusting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 12:10:46 PM
It's onions on a bun
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 14, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
Exactly  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2017, 12:12:03 PM
I feel ya
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on September 14, 2017, 05:26:22 PM
SCENE: Wacky's man cave and we're all watching K-State vs TCU hoops on the big screen

mocat: "Hey Wacky, any more of those pizza rolls coming up? They are delicious!"
WC08: "You bet bud! I just put another 12 in the oven!"
Phil: "Wacky I love your house, the ample parking is great on the street, makes up for the fact the street car doesn't come this far south or west!"
(everyone lol's)
WC08: "haha good point Phil, hey CF3 would you like another craft beer? I have a 6 pack of boulevard wheat in the garage fridge"
CF3: "yes sir wackster, I'll help myself"
lib7: "Wacky, can I have the recipe for...."

WC08 HOLDS A SINGLE FINGER TO HIS LIPS AND HOLDS UP HIS OTHER HAND IN A STOP TALKING MOTION.
The sound of a car driving into the garage is heard......

WC08: "Oh no! Mrs WC says I can't have people over on weeknights! Quick, every out the back door. Man oh man I'm sleeping on the couch again tonight."

We all run out the back and then throw snowballs at Wackster's house until he calls the Lenexa PD.


END SCENE

I rough ridin' lost it right here :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2017, 10:15:36 AM
This Nigro is out here pit'n irl.

http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/article173616176.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2017, 01:22:11 PM
That should end any Westport road give away plans.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2017, 01:25:20 PM
That should end any Westport road give away plans.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 01:26:51 PM
Stupid


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2017, 01:34:45 PM
That should end any Westport road give away plans.

 :facepalm:

One of the main guys you want to give the roads has those stances and you are good with it?  Face palm indeed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2017, 01:46:03 PM
 :jerk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2017, 01:53:08 PM
This Nigro is out here pit'n irl.

http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/article173616176.html

Not to be overlooked....this is a v good post
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2017, 02:19:10 PM
it was an interesting article, but it mostly seemed like whining that there wasn't enough demand for their specific interest and comparing the black nightlife scene in KC to atlanta and DC (and i guess dallas), cities much larger than KC with a very vibrant white collar black culture (for lack of a better term).  The history of KC of course has ramifications on that, but KC having a low amount of young black professionals and blaming that on westport not playing "hood" music is a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
Of course it is


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 17, 2017, 02:21:33 PM
it was an interesting article, but it mostly seemed like whining that there wasn't enough demand for their specific interest and comparing the black nightlife scene in KC to atlanta and DC (and i guess dallas), cities much larger than KC with a very vibrant white collar black culture (for lack of a better term).  The history of KC of course has ramifications on that, but KC having a low amount of young black professionals and blaming that on westport not playing "hood" music is a bit ridiculous.
This was my take as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 17, 2017, 02:22:02 PM
Of course it is


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
it was an interesting article, but it mostly seemed like whining that there wasn't enough demand for their specific interest and comparing the black nightlife scene in KC to atlanta and DC (and i guess dallas), cities much larger than KC with a very vibrant white collar black culture (for lack of a better term).  The history of KC of course has ramifications on that, but KC having a low amount of young black professionals and blaming that on westport not playing "hood" music is a bit ridiculous.

Don't disagree. Nigro comments though are a  :sdeek: and I don't want people like that owning the roads
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 02:27:33 PM
The nigro baseball Museum is here, but KC is definitely a hot bed for racist white Midwesterners that can't be diverse. Sounds like reverse racism to me. Sorry you moved to the middle of the country and can't find enough black ppl to fancy yourself. Sigh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2017, 02:33:04 PM
The nigro baseball Museum is here, but KC is definitely a hot bed for racist white Midwesterners that can't be diverse. Sounds like reverse racism to me. Sorry you moved to the middle of the country and can't find enough black ppl to fancy yourself. Sigh.

 :sdeek:

also this is not what i'm saying at all
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 02:34:23 PM
Long Beach Times

"White couple moves out because there's not enough white ppl to fancy their entertainment"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 02:35:43 PM
The nigro baseball Museum is here, but KC is definitely a hot bed for racist white Midwesterners that can't be diverse. Sounds like reverse racism to me. Sorry you moved to the middle of the country and can't find enough black ppl to fancy yourself. Sigh.

 :sdeek:

also this is not what i'm saying at all
I'm not riding your coat tails on this. So it's all good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2017, 02:44:29 PM
it was an interesting article, but it mostly seemed like whining that there wasn't enough demand for their specific interest and comparing the black nightlife scene in KC to atlanta and DC (and i guess dallas), cities much larger than KC with a very vibrant white collar black culture (for lack of a better term).  The history of KC of course has ramifications on that, but KC having a low amount of young black professionals and blaming that on westport not playing "hood" music is a bit ridiculous.

Don't disagree. Nigro comments though are a  :sdeek: and I don't want people like that owning the roads

lulz too late for that, chief
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2017, 04:20:28 PM
it was an interesting article, but it mostly seemed like whining that there wasn't enough demand for their specific interest and comparing the black nightlife scene in KC to atlanta and DC (and i guess dallas), cities much larger than KC with a very vibrant white collar black culture (for lack of a better term).  The history of KC of course has ramifications on that, but KC having a low amount of young black professionals and blaming that on westport not playing "hood" music is a bit ridiculous.

The blame was on the Nigros of KC precluding there from being any scene for fear of venues "getting too dark."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 04:22:32 PM
Some ppl try too hard to create racism.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 17, 2017, 04:52:04 PM
Some ppl try too hard to create racism.
Did you read the article wacks?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 04:54:00 PM
Some of it. Sounds like too many white Midwesterners for them in the area. I stopped after I had to read more 1st world problems.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 05:05:11 PM
Also, we have Nigro's in the fam, so I know what he's about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2017, 06:53:52 PM
Gusto was awesome, always had a line of people waiting to get in, and a mostly black crowd. I have no idea why it closed and turned into a rough ridin' johnny kaw's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2017, 07:12:58 PM
Also, we have Nigro's in the fam, so I know what he's about.

I'm really puzzled by this post
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 07:14:41 PM
Nigro's is a country western store well known in KC and by the Shawnee community, lib.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2017, 07:20:16 PM
I was just unclear based on your previous uses of "nigro"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 07:21:06 PM
Keep up


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2017, 07:23:02 PM
Gusto was awesome, always had a line of people waiting to get in, and a mostly black crowd. I have no idea why it closed and turned into a rough ridin' johnny kaw's

Kaws was easily the most popular bar for black students in Manhattan while I was there. I think they have changed the back room though so that may no longer be the case.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2017, 07:23:54 PM
Keep up with your incoherent comments about an article you didn't even read?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 07:24:53 PM
Mocat, I'm sorry you're hungover and blew a bunch of $ in Nashville. Not my fault you're so mad.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 07:26:15 PM
Anyways, sorry you guys are so mad, going to watch IT


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 07:27:48 PM
The #emmys seem to be mad about nothing tonight, maybe hang there. :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2017, 07:35:25 PM
Pull yourself together wacks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2017, 09:21:47 PM
Quit making a mess of this thread wacks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 17, 2017, 10:04:19 PM
Phil, you do it daily in this thread. Bring up some more airport talk plz!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 18, 2017, 08:47:22 AM
That was the joke. Lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 18, 2017, 08:50:55 AM
 :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2017, 04:27:41 PM
Which airport plan will be better for clearing dead bodies out of the parking lot?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 20, 2017, 10:30:36 AM
Looks like she's getting handcuffed.

https://twitter.com/KCStarOpinion/status/910524544531574785
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on September 20, 2017, 10:56:26 AM
Not to say I told you so... But I rough ridin' told all you MFs that the city had fudged up this process up from the beginning.

Phil told me I didn't understand or was not seeing the big picture (wrong), others thought I was being chicken little... And in the end, the voters are going to have zero confidence to vote yes because the city has repeatedly tripped all over themselves, face planting every step of the way, engaging in zero education of the facts or reason, and because the "hometown" team is not the selected proposer.

Makes KC look small time, incompetent, and corrupt. Even worse tho, the city knew better but went forward like this anyway.

Troy Schulte and others should absolutely be fired for this. It's inexcusable.

 :th_twocents:

Also, B&M is extremely hypocritical to be calling foul now when they helped to muddy the waters from the get-go... despite the thick bullshit that Mayor James has put out.

 :bang:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 20, 2017, 11:04:22 AM
the city has bungled this thing big time.

but there is still a part of me that knows even if they had a clear consistent message the whole time, there would still be an army of wackycats out there thinking that money would be coming out of their paychecks to fund the airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 20, 2017, 11:06:54 AM
They'd be correct.  :don'tcare: Unfortunately there will still be an army of Mocat's out there that are naive and think otherwise.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 20, 2017, 11:13:10 AM
the city has bungled this thing big time.

but there is still a part of me that knows even if they had a clear consistent message the whole time, there would still be an army of wackycats out there thinking that money would be coming out of their paychecks to fund the airport.

Still looking for the streetcar deduction from my check
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on September 20, 2017, 11:31:37 AM
They'd be correct.  :don'tcare: Unfortunately there will still be an army of Mocat's out there that are naive and think otherwise.  :frown:

Wacky... You loveable boot-strapping idiot, you... Please explain to me how taxpayer dollars will go to pay for the airport. Please.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 20, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
At this point it's a joke Cam, i'm just playing a long. I have no idea how any of this works.  ;) :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 20, 2017, 12:00:16 PM
man, camKSU just got the zapping of a lifetime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on September 20, 2017, 12:56:57 PM
At this point it's a joke Cam, i'm just playing a long. I have no idea how any of this works.  ;) :thumbs:

Well, I'll be damned... Now if we could only get Dax/FSD/ksuW/etc. to admit to the same
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Not to say I told you so... But I rough ridin' told all you MFs that the city had fudged up this process up from the beginning.

Phil told me I didn't understand or was not seeing the big picture (wrong), others thought I was being chicken little... And in the end, the voters are going to have zero confidence to vote yes because the city has repeatedly tripped all over themselves, face planting every step of the way, engaging in zero education of the facts or reason, and because the "hometown" team is not the selected proposer.

Makes KC look small time, incompetent, and corrupt. Even worse tho, the city knew better but went forward like this anyway.

Troy Schulte and others should absolutely be fired for this. It's inexcusable.

 :th_twocents:

Also, B&M is extremely hypocritical to be calling foul now when they helped to muddy the waters from the get-go... despite the thick bullshit that Mayor James has put out.

 :bang:
I don't remember what we talked about but I do agree this is b&m making most of the mess of this. City selection committee should release more of their decisions documentation asap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2017, 01:13:16 PM
the city has bungled this thing big time.

but there is still a part of me that knows even if they had a clear consistent message the whole time, there would still be an army of wackycats out there thinking that money would be coming out of their paychecks to fund the airport.
It was always going to be messy....lots of money to be handed out could told everybody that.

What do you think the city should have done differently?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 20, 2017, 01:19:41 PM
Gotta love Phil and his obsession with this city can do no wrong talk.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2017, 01:22:12 PM
Gotta love Phil and his obsession with this city can do no wrong talk.

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As I've stated before I've got more than my fair share of beefs with city hall.  Do you have any comments on how the city could have done this better?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 20, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
Not do it at all.  :thumbs: :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2017, 01:27:07 PM
Not do it at all.  :thumbs: :D
Touche!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: camKSU on September 20, 2017, 01:34:56 PM
Gotta love Phil and his obsession with this city can do no wrong talk.

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As I've stated before I've got more than my fair share of beefs with city hall.  Do you have any comments on how the city could have done this better?

Follow the tried and true practice of formally issuing an RFQ/RFI (not this, "I challenged the business community to step up" bullshit). Allow enough time for interested parties to put together a proper response and proposal. Task an independent selection committee to make recommendations based on transparent and clear criteria. Select based on qualifications and cost. Educate the voters and public on the reasons why and the mechanisms for achieving it.

Other cities handle this stuff all the time without very many hiccups... why this staff or council is so inept is beyond me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2017, 01:42:08 PM
Gotta love Phil and his obsession with this city can do no wrong talk.

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As I've stated before I've got more than my fair share of beefs with city hall.  Do you have any comments on how the city could have done this better?

Follow the tried and true practice of formally issuing an RFQ/RFI (not this, "I challenged the business community to step up" bullshit). Allow enough time for interested parties to put together a proper response and proposal. Task an independent selection committee to make recommendations based on transparent and clear criteria. Select based on qualifications and cost. Educate the voters and public on the reasons why and the mechanisms for achieving it.

Other cities handle this stuff all the time without very many hiccups... why this staff or council is so inept is beyond me.
First point I agree.

Enough time? My memory serves the time given was standard timeframe for an RFP process for the city.

Independent selection committee? Seems the committee or city leaders, staff experts, and airline parties was a good committee? Not sure what an independent committee without knowledge of city requirements would gain.

Did they not select on qualifications and costs?

Educating voter is still to come and time is growing short as b&m throws a fit in public and tries to call in state rep favors.

Lol other cities handling these type of decisions without hiccups.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on September 20, 2017, 01:50:36 PM
I got curious about what slyin james looks like. Worth it!

(http://www.thisiskc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/MAYOR-SLY-JAMES-KANSAS-CITY-MISSOURI-2015.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 20, 2017, 04:20:21 PM
i've said for a long time that slyin's lack of transparency was completely mumped and am glad it's finally come to bite him and his crew of mini-slyin's on the council in the ass

i guess that's what happens when you try to get over on someone a little smarter than the kcmo voting contingent
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 20, 2017, 04:31:55 PM
Gotta love Phil and his obsession with this city can do no wrong talk.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/z9AUvhAEiXOqA/giphy.gif)
As I've stated before I've got more than my fair share of beefs with city hall.  Do you have any comments on how the city could have done this better?

Follow the tried and true practice of formally issuing an RFQ/RFI (not this, "I challenged the business community to step up" bullshit). Allow enough time for interested parties to put together a proper response and proposal. Task an independent selection committee to make recommendations based on transparent and clear criteria. Select based on qualifications and cost. Educate the voters and public on the reasons why and the mechanisms for achieving it.

Other cities handle this stuff all the time without very many hiccups... why this staff or council is so inept is beyond me.
First point I agree.

Enough time? My memory serves the time given was standard timeframe for an RFP process for the city.

Independent selection committee? Seems the committee or city leaders, staff experts, and airline parties was a good committee? Not sure what an independent committee without knowledge of city requirements would gain.

Did they not select on qualifications and costs?

Educating voter is still to come and time is growing short as b&m throws a fit in public and tries to call in state rep favors.

Lol other cities handling these type of decisions without hiccups.

and lots fubar it too.    We just participated in one locally where the City has now rejected all the proposals (officially due to lack of competition - even though 3 companies submitted) but really because one of the committee's hunting buddies took his proposal to the wrong office.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 20, 2017, 04:33:17 PM
Is this like KU always saying their going to do a $300 Million renovation to the stadium, but it never happens?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2017, 04:33:53 PM
I mean who on the council to you consider mini slys? Most seem to not get along with them. Jolie seems to be the closest to a mini sly.

To me it seems this process was dictated to the city by staff to follow the procurement process.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on September 21, 2017, 06:37:14 AM
is this here yet? did i kc scoop u guys? (http://www.burnsmcd.com/insightsnews/news/releases/2017/09/fact-check-of-kci-selection-committee-document?utm_campaign=AF_KCIAirport_01935&utm_content=60601828&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2017, 08:56:28 AM
is this here yet? did i kc scoop u guys? (http://www.burnsmcd.com/insightsnews/news/releases/2017/09/fact-check-of-kci-selection-committee-document?utm_campaign=AF_KCIAirport_01935&utm_content=60601828&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook)
"selection committee one page summary sheet doesn't match line for line to our 8000 page fluff RFP...the horror....pick us!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2017, 09:44:22 AM
If you want to nerd out there is some serious airport talking going on today on channel 2. Basically the entire process summary.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2017, 09:52:25 AM
"slyin, what's your contingency plan to address issues at MCI if this new terminal idea falls apart?"

"um, what?"

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2017, 10:00:36 AM
If the mong voters reject the new airport I'm not sure what contingency could or should be. This is the best option
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2017, 01:21:13 PM
Passes joint council 7 to 1. Full council needs 9 votes and will be at 3pm today.

Very good presentation done today describing the process and why edgemoor was picked and later questions answered as to why burns and Mac funding plan wouldn't work with city requirements. All the "mess" that people claim has come outnof this process has been produced by proposers and most recently b&m and friends of b&m.

Take a look at presentation here
KCMO.gov/newkci
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 21, 2017, 01:29:03 PM
Passes joint council 7 to 1. Full council needs 9 votes and will be at 3pm today.

Very good presentation done today describing the process and why edgemoor was picked and later questions answered as to why burns and Mac funding plan wouldn't work with city requirements. All the "mess" that people claim has come outnof this process has been produced by proposers and most recently b&m and friends of b&m.

Take a look at presentation here
KCMO.gov/newkci

Looks like crap.  What a mess.

#flyJoCo

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2017, 04:19:37 PM
Passed 10 to 2.

Vote Yes November 7th KCMO!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 21, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
Not if you wanna pay more taxes!  :shakesfist: :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2017, 04:37:17 PM
I can't wait to stuff my face at the exclusive Rick Bayless resteraunt at Amazon International Airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
If the mong voters reject the new airport I'm not sure what contingency could or should be. This is the best option

whether or not it's the best option doesn't matter
if you truly want a better airport experience, and given how unsurprisingly poorly city hall has managed this process, you should be a proponent of slyin having a plan B that he can put into action when plan A inevitably fails
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2017, 06:36:42 PM
Personally I think the airport should be controlled by a regional authority .  That pulls it away from being a KCMO only problem and gives the region a voice in it's direction.

That's not plan b...that should be the next step after November 7th is approved.

Slys plan b is to let the next mayor handle it if it fails (it won't)...his political capital is done on the topic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2017, 06:56:32 PM
what a leader
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 24, 2017, 12:52:30 PM
MORE LIKE SCARY VILLAGE

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article175128346.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article175128346.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2017, 12:54:05 PM
5 min from my house  :runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 24, 2017, 12:56:14 PM
Trash
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 25, 2017, 09:01:26 AM
5 min from my house  :runaway:

 :runaway: same :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 25, 2017, 09:08:23 AM
6 minutes, I'm safe  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on September 25, 2017, 09:32:56 AM
Probably accidentally shot herself and didn't want to look stupid. Like that high school police officer

Also, first read through I thought it said "suspect is described as a gray minivan"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on September 25, 2017, 10:08:57 AM
(http://mariozucca.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/KCMO_map_1000-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 25, 2017, 10:37:58 AM
kc needs to cancel the blinking yellow turn arrow traffic light experiment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 25, 2017, 10:38:16 AM
kc needs to cancel the blinking yellow turn arrow traffic light experiment

what the F is wrong with you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2017, 11:02:25 AM
kc needs to cancel the blinking yellow turn arrow traffic light experiment
Not a fan...I think it's some sort of new national standard.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on September 25, 2017, 11:14:47 AM
What is this National Standard?  I run tons of red left turn arrows now and may need it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2017, 11:17:07 AM
What is this National Standard?  I run tons of red left turn arrows now and may need it
I don't know...traffic light united?  Just seems all of a sudden a bunch of cities have replaced their green circle indicating left turn when you can into yellow flashing arrow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 25, 2017, 11:18:55 AM
kc needs to cancel the blinking yellow turn arrow traffic light experiment

what the F is wrong with you

people don't know how to use it.  everyone equates yellow with green, meaning "it's not red so i'm going" not realizing that oncoming traffic has the green and is coming through. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2017, 11:22:44 AM
kc needs to cancel the blinking yellow turn arrow traffic light experiment

what the F is wrong with you

people don't know how to use it.  everyone equates yellow with green, meaning "it's not red so i'm going" not realizing that oncoming traffic has the green and is coming through.
Yup.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2017, 11:28:03 AM
What is this National Standard?  I run tons of red left turn arrows now and may need it
2009 FTA approved them in MUTCD section 4d.04.b

They suck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 25, 2017, 12:18:34 PM
I haven't seen the green circle being replaced by a yellow flashing arrow anywhere. That seems dumb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2017, 12:25:25 PM
I haven't seen the green circle being replaced by a yellow flashing arrow anywhere. That seems dumb.
I've only seen it when new lights go up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 25, 2017, 01:23:14 PM
It works great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 25, 2017, 01:23:52 PM
Green circle is much more ambiguous, and a red left turn arrow is unacceptable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2017, 01:40:14 PM
Green circle is much more ambiguous, and a red left turn arrow is unacceptable
I agree left red arrow is dumb 99% of the time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 25, 2017, 04:22:24 PM
flashing yellow is all over JOCO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 25, 2017, 04:35:20 PM
Yup, and I don't understand how people don't understand how to using a flashing yellow. Yellow means caution/yield in literally ever other situation, why would a left turn signal be any different? Do you really need a green circle with a sign that says "yield on green when turning left?" when a flashing yellow signal literally means that?


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 25, 2017, 04:40:06 PM
yeah, it beats sitting at a red or blowing a red like I boss
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 25, 2017, 04:47:54 PM
Quote
Did Kansas City lose its mojo in the long KCI fight?

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article174935671.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 25, 2017, 04:48:26 PM
yeah, it beats sitting at a red or blowing a red like I boss
That's not the other option
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2017, 10:59:08 AM
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/913068723170414592
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2017, 11:10:37 AM
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KC man who declared ‘I won’ after killing wife to spend life in prison

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article175628641.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2017, 11:28:41 AM
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/913068723170414592

She is about to have fat stacks and be famous on America's highest rated comedy show
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on September 27, 2017, 04:20:24 PM
snl is so terrible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 27, 2017, 06:45:21 PM
A/C condenser was stolen today. Damn you waldo!!!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2017, 06:47:06 PM
 :sdeek: Move now, bud! It will be your stinky fishing shoes next. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on September 27, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
A/C condenser was stolen today. Damn you waldo!!!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 27, 2017, 06:50:08 PM
:sdeek: Move now, bud! It will be your stinky fishing shoes next. :frown:
We've been considering it, but A: I don't want to sell a house/move with an infant. And B: I don't want to buy a $450,000 house only to have the market crash again and be SOL


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2017, 06:52:19 PM
That's fair. But we spent way more than half of that for a mansion in OP. It's doable.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 27, 2017, 06:55:21 PM
That's fair. But we spent way more than half of that for a mansion in OP. It's doable.
I probably (definitely) wouldn't move to OP, and to find something comparable to our house outside of our neighborhood is about 400k
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2017, 06:58:10 PM
You must have been north of me in Waldo near Brookside. Makes since you wouldn't wanna come this direction with you work. I get it. I work at Mission Farms and with highway access it's only about a 10-15 minute commute. Kinda late Bing it. Will you stay on that side when the lil one grows up?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 27, 2017, 07:11:57 PM
You must have been north of me in Waldo near Brookside. Makes since you wouldn't wanna come this direction with you work. I get it. I work at Mission Farms and with highway access it's only about a 10-15 minute commute. Kinda late Bing it. Will you stay on that side when the lil one grows up?

My wife works downtown too and wants to move closer to work as well. We live just south east of Gregory and ward pkwy

We'll stay on this side, we have to for brewery things. (Managing partner of an alcohol producer must live in state) catholic school or pray for scary Lafayette or something.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2017, 08:16:00 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2017, 08:31:09 PM
Already begging people to move to the burbs  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 27, 2017, 08:36:34 PM
A/C condenser was stolen today. Damn you waldo!!!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 27, 2017, 08:38:06 PM
You must have been north of me in Waldo near Brookside. Makes since you wouldn't wanna come this direction with you work. I get it. I work at Mission Farms and with highway access it's only about a 10-15 minute commute. Kinda late Bing it. Will you stay on that side when the lil one grows up?

My wife works downtown too and wants to move closer to work as well. We live just south east of Gregory and ward pkwy

We'll stay on this side, we have to for brewery things. (Managing partner of an alcohol producer must live in state) catholic school or pray for scary Lafayette or something.


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Columbus park!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2017, 10:47:37 PM
KCFDcat you are an enigma wrapped in a riddle bud.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on September 27, 2017, 10:56:17 PM
use that berk berk and install ground source heat pump
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on September 27, 2017, 11:23:24 PM
KCFDcat you are an enigma wrapped in a riddle bud.
I'm just really not sure what this means
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 28, 2017, 08:58:58 AM
some dude on the bus this morning was wearing a pea coat. like get serious guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2017, 09:00:09 AM
Already begging people to move to the burbs  :frown:
Nobody is begging. I'm offering safer alternatives.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 28, 2017, 09:20:53 AM
some dude on the bus this morning was wearing a pea coat. like get serious guy.
He bought it end of last season and has been dying to wear it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2017, 09:25:05 AM
Hoodie weather  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on September 28, 2017, 09:25:46 AM
Similar note, saw a guy rocking the Patagonia vest in QT last week. It was 70 degrees at 7:30 AM. Can't contain that fall layer fever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 28, 2017, 09:49:58 AM
pea coats are for winter time, and last saturday i was in the pool
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 28, 2017, 05:34:57 PM
A ton of olds walking around downtown right now in blue shirts.... didn't know there was a hockey game at Sprint tonight
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2017, 06:02:58 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/fox4kc.com/2017/09/26/as-police-layoffs-loom-raytown-considers-declaring-walmart-a-public-nuisance/amp/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 28, 2017, 07:12:06 PM
A ton of olds walking around downtown right now in blue shirts.... didn't know there was a hockey game at Sprint tonight
Saw a bunch of them loading up the streetcar of death in river market... Had no idea

Saw the Calgary flanges are basically headed to KC though so guess we better get on board
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2017, 07:49:54 PM
blues and wild... grosss
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 28, 2017, 10:38:13 PM
blues and wild... grosss

NHL.....grosss
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on September 29, 2017, 01:19:42 AM
pls talk more about the airport, this other stuff is very boring
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 29, 2017, 08:28:45 AM
What airport?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 29, 2017, 08:35:57 AM
I really enjoyed reading about Raytown blaming Walmart for their budget woes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on September 29, 2017, 10:44:16 AM
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Raytown Police say they made more than 500 arrests at Walmart in 2016. In May an off-duty Jackson County deputy shot and killed a shoplifter investigators say reached for her taser.

I wonder what the record is nationwide
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 04, 2017, 10:56:40 AM
https://twitter.com/kclightrail/status/915584118225821697


https://twitter.com/kclightrail/status/915591120150810625
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 04, 2017, 09:41:54 PM
Preliminary study for a downtown baseball site at eunderway. Neat to see someone in the city planning for the future before we are forced into it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on October 04, 2017, 09:45:00 PM
Preliminary study for a downtown baseball site at eunderway. Neat to see someone in the city planning for the future before we are forced into it.

https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/915700599055896576
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on October 04, 2017, 09:51:23 PM
Preliminary study for a downtown baseball site at eunderway. Neat to see someone in the city planning for the future before we are forced into it.

https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/915700599055896576

probably just extend the streetcar to the K would be smarter and cheaper
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 07:58:14 AM
Happy sexy new kci rendering day!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 05, 2017, 08:07:17 AM
Oh boy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2017, 02:03:47 PM
holy crap we're getting charles de gaulle ceilings!  :excited:

(http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/dme3dc/picture177229561/alternates/FREE_768/kci_rendering_5)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on October 05, 2017, 02:05:44 PM
https://twitter.com/st_vockrodt/status/916005373336850434
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2017, 02:08:37 PM
No thanks, I prefer broken bathrooms and the concrete bunker look
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 05, 2017, 02:13:27 PM
Glad I don't live in KC & have to pay for window dressing when airplanes can take off at the current airport just fine.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2017, 02:18:11 PM
Glad I don't live in KC & have to pay for window dressing when airplanes can take off at the current airport just fine.

the best part is even people who live in kc don't have to pay for it! wow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2017, 02:26:35 PM
Glad I don't live in KC & have to pay for window dressing when airplanes can take off at the current airport just fine.

the best part is even people who live in kc don't have to pay for it! wow!

just another disingenuous troll job by slyin's army

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 05, 2017, 02:38:54 PM
I'm sorry but that looks v ugly. JMHO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on October 05, 2017, 03:20:32 PM
My number 1 criteria in satisfaction with a new airport is its ability to accommodate more flights...whatever it takes to get more flights.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2017, 03:23:20 PM
I'm sorry but that looks v ugly. JMHO

what the
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 05, 2017, 03:39:32 PM
So like go to P&L and walk two block and go to a royals game and walk back two blocks back to P&L!?  I’ll help pay for that!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 05, 2017, 03:44:23 PM
Is that a Populous design?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 05, 2017, 03:46:05 PM
Is that a Populous design?

KSUW has been quiet, so maybe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 03:56:45 PM
I like the overall concept but I'm more excited to see SOM refine the design concepts. Can tell this is pretty early on.  If HNTB did this design this would be final product.

Think they need to mix in a few art deco elements and do something sexy on the connector part in the middle.

That water feature is v awesome.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 03:57:46 PM
Parking is already a nightmare downtown. I can't imagine how much worse it would get with a stadium.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2017, 03:57:56 PM
if i were this company i would make the renderings be the coolest airport ever conceived to help get the vote passed because as the new hyatt showed us, the renderings don't mean a thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 04:04:20 PM
if i were this company i would make the renderings be the coolest airport ever conceived to help get the vote passed because as the new hyatt showed us, the renderings don't mean a thing
SOM prob doesn't want to put their good name on something that they can't deliver.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2017, 04:06:05 PM
Parking is already a nightmare downtown. I can't imagine how much worse it would get with a stadium.

is it? is parking a nightmare downtown? or is there free night and weekend parking literally everywhere?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 04:06:36 PM
Parking is already a nightmare downtown. I can't imagine how much worse it would get with a stadium.

is it? is parking a nightmare downtown? or is there free night and weekend parking literally everywhere?
One of these statements is correct.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 05, 2017, 04:09:14 PM
I'm sorry but that looks v ugly. JMHO

what the

Ceiling is weird. I don't like it.  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 04:09:34 PM
When I lived by the quaff and there was an invent going on at the Sprint Center, I could never find a place to park on Washington street or anywhere around there. I have a crap ton of parking tickets as well that I had to pay for because it's only "2 hour parking" during the day and they come around and mark your tires to see how long you've been there. If I took a sick day or just a day off period and forgot my car was parked on a side street, I was mumped. Add 30K to what's already a crap show.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2017, 04:11:24 PM
lol wackycat08
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 04:12:29 PM
lol mocat. KC's #2 apologist.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 05, 2017, 04:13:19 PM
Its funny that you're against a downtown stade because you used to have to park there. also, invent  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 04:17:45 PM
It's just already a crap show down there when there's an event and so many people think Broadway is the only exit into downtown off I-35. It log jams everything. I'm just saying, plan to be even more agitated trying to get downtown for a game.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 04:18:36 PM
When I lived by the quaff and there was an invent going on at the Sprint Center, I could never find a place to park on Washington street or anywhere around there. I have a crap ton of parking tickets as well that I had to pay for because it's only "2 hour parking" during the day and they come around and mark your tires to see how long you've been there. If I took a sick day or just a day off period and forgot my car was parked on a side street, I was mumped. Add 30K to what's already a crap show.
Street parking isn't for long term car storage. There was a garage you could buy a spot for in the alley. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 04:19:03 PM
It's just already a crap show down there when there's an event and so many people think Broadway is the only exit into downtown off I-35. It log jams everything. I'm just saying, plan to be even more agitated trying to get downtown for a game.
Streetcar from umkc bro!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 04:20:29 PM
When I lived by the quaff and there was an invent going on at the Sprint Center, I could never find a place to park on Washington street or anywhere around there. I have a crap ton of parking tickets as well that I had to pay for because it's only "2 hour parking" during the day and they come around and mark your tires to see how long you've been there. If I took a sick day or just a day off period and forgot my car was parked on a side street, I was mumped. Add 30K to what's already a crap show.
Street parking isn't for long term car storage. There was a garage you could buy a spot for in the alley.
Yeah, I didn't want to pay $75 a month for it tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2017, 04:24:01 PM
What you are describing is not a nightmare
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 04:25:03 PM
That's like your opinion, man. You didn't live it for 4 years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2017, 04:27:42 PM
Wackycat08 also once said in this thread that kc has horrible traffic, just putting that out as a reference point
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 04:28:53 PM
I believe I was bitching about construction. Since it's everywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 05, 2017, 04:44:22 PM
Every time I’ve have to park in downtown KC it hasn’t been hard at all.  I think if I lived there I would buy a spot and it would be even less hard(which it wasn’t much to begin with).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 04:46:15 PM
Welp. Case closed!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 04:48:35 PM
That's like your opinion, man. You didn't live it for 4 years.

i've lived in spitting distance for over 13 years.  I've never not found parking for my guests outside of 2 blocks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 04:49:36 PM
Back to KCI....what additional detail / information would help KCMO voters click yes on November 7th? (I'm voting tomorrow absentee!!!)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 04:53:16 PM
That's like your opinion, man. You didn't live it for 4 years.

i've lived in spitting distance for over 13 years.  I've never not found parking for my guests outside of 2 blocks.
What about during events? Now add a stadium and it will be chaotic. especially when there's more than one thing going on downtown. Convention center, big 12 tournament, etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 04:55:36 PM
That's like your opinion, man. You didn't live it for 4 years.

i've lived in spitting distance for over 13 years.  I've never not found parking for my guests outside of 2 blocks.
What about during events? Now add a stadium and it will be chaotic. especially when there's more than one thing going on downtown. Convention center, big 12 tournament, etc.

Yes...events....in 13 years I've experienced quite few of those.  If they put the stadium at 8th & Central, yes QH will see parking stresses ....but there are also going to be garages for baseball fans.  It won't be chaotic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 05, 2017, 05:10:03 PM
When I lived by the quaff and there was an invent going on at the Sprint Center, I could never find a place to park on Washington street or anywhere around there. I have a crap ton of parking tickets as well that I had to pay for because it's only "2 hour parking" during the day and they come around and mark your tires to see how long you've been there. If I took a sick day or just a day off period and forgot my car was parked on a side street, I was mumped. Add 30K to what's already a crap show.
Street parking isn't for long term car storage. There was a garage you could buy a spot for in the alley.
Yeah, I didn't want to pay $75 a month for it tho.

So you just didn't want to live downtown.  That's the norm for living downtown literally everywhere.  I paid that when I worked downtown in Tulsa.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 05, 2017, 05:14:11 PM
In the past 13 years I've stayed at Phil's 150+ nights on various days of the week & I have had to park more than 2 blocks away maybe twice.

That doesn't include the summer I lived with him where I paid around $60/month to park less than 100 feet from his front door every night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 05, 2017, 05:36:21 PM
Back to KCI....what additional detail / information would help KCMO voters click yes on November 7th? (I'm voting tomorrow absentee!!!)
I think most people want/need to see stats on things like increased number of bathrooms, larger gate areas, number of TSA lines, estimated wait times at peak hours, increased ability to cater to international flights, overall traffic flow, baggage claim areas, pickup/dropoff areas. These all need to be compared to current KCI to show that it truly is a needed upgrade.

The renderings are nice, but most people DGAF about cool ceilings or fountains if the airport doesn't function properly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2017, 05:45:51 PM
the city should do a better job marking the 5000 surface lots that we own
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2017, 05:47:30 PM
or just give them to amazon  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 06:00:22 PM
the city should do a better job marking the 5000 surface lots that we own

Agreed...but the city doesn't own most of them...businesses do and don't want to share.  Annoying af but at least they are now paying a streetcar tax for thme.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 06:01:14 PM
Back to KCI....what additional detail / information would help KCMO voters click yes on November 7th? (I'm voting tomorrow absentee!!!)
I think most people want/need to see stats on things like increased number of bathrooms, larger gate areas, number of TSA lines, estimated wait times at peak hours, increased ability to cater to international flights, overall traffic flow, baggage claim areas, pickup/dropoff areas. These all need to be compared to current KCI to show that it truly is a needed upgrade.

The renderings are nice, but most people DGAF about cool ceilings or fountains if the airport doesn't function properly

Agree....sexy pics don't hurt but tell people how their experience will be better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2017, 06:09:55 PM
non-'gloids can look at those pictures and figure out pretty easily that their experience will improve drastically
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2017, 06:11:32 PM
the city should do a better job marking the 5000 surface lots that we own

Agreed...but the city doesn't own most of them...businesses do and don't want to share.  Annoying af but at least they are now paying a streetcar tax for thme.

then the city leans in and tells them to open them up at night.  we bend over backwards for our businesses, it's the least they could do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
non-'gloids can look at those pictures and figure out pretty easily that their experience will improve drastically

in what way? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 06:13:44 PM
the city should do a better job marking the 5000 surface lots that we own

Agreed...but the city doesn't own most of them...businesses do and don't want to share.  Annoying af but at least they are now paying a streetcar tax for thme.

then the city leans in and tells them to open them up at night.  we bend over backwards for our businesses, it's the least they could do.

city did this at 20th & Grand.  worked out some shared parking agreement...not sure how well it worked or how much it's used.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 05, 2017, 06:14:44 PM
non-'gloids can look at those pictures and figure out pretty easily that their experience will improve drastically

in what way?

did you not see the huge community drinking fountain?  No lines for that thing.  Like we only have individual drinking fountains at KCI now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2017, 06:15:58 PM
Wackycat08 also once said in this thread that kc has horrible traffic, just putting that out as a reference point

This is an IRL screenshot I took yesterday at 3:30 pm and sent to my friend who bitches about kc traffic like a complete dumbfuck




(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171005/5c327a07327ec7c8833088567656df04.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2017, 06:28:32 PM
non-'gloids can look at those pictures and figure out pretty easily that their experience will improve drastically

in what way?

every way
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 05, 2017, 07:52:33 PM
Wackycat08 also once said in this thread that kc has horrible traffic, just putting that out as a reference point

This is an IRL screenshot I took yesterday at 3:30 pm and sent to my friend who bitches about kc traffic like a complete dumbfuck




(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171005/5c327a07327ec7c8833088567656df04.jpg)
Look at you! Miami has nothing on LA.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on October 06, 2017, 08:43:46 AM
non-'gloids can look at those pictures and figure out pretty easily that their experience will improve drastically

in what way?

every way

If I have to go through security with the unwashed SW masses, my experience will definitely not improve.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 06, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
 :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 06, 2017, 08:59:45 AM
:lol: such divas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 06, 2017, 09:00:47 AM
Wannabe elitists.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 06, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
non-'gloids can look at those pictures and figure out pretty easily that their experience will improve drastically

in what way?

every way

If I have to go through security with the unwashed SW masses, my experience will definitely not improve.
Precheck for all gates. Mind blowing concept.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on October 06, 2017, 09:33:22 AM
Yes, mind blowing.  I've had precheck for years.  Doesn't mean their stumbling and stench won't negatively impact my experience.  Keep them segregated.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 06, 2017, 09:44:20 AM
non-'gloids can look at those pictures and figure out pretty easily that their experience will improve drastically

in what way?

every way

If I have to go through security with the unwashed SW masses, my experience will definitely not improve.
Precheck for all gates. Mind blowing concept.

new design incorporates fewer security checkpoints and you know this.  although the poor delta fliers probably can't afford pre-check, he may be able to smell my deliciousness as i breeze past him.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 06, 2017, 09:52:31 AM
how many actual scanners are there total at kci right now? like 8? they are unevenly divided among the 27 gates that are currently in use, because some checkpoints only serve 2 gates, some serve like 8.

the new design should have at least 8 scanners, but the lines will be evenly divided, so the max line length should be much smaller than when you hit the SW derp rush hour.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 06, 2017, 09:55:16 AM
not sure how many mci has today, LAS SWA term 3 had 2
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 06, 2017, 09:57:06 AM
each checkpoint has 1 scanner, but some have 2 iirc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 06, 2017, 10:22:56 AM
Kci has 16 security lanes total now. The problem is some sit dead while others get overwhelmed based on flight traffic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 06, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
Check this thread for more details on how inefficient our setup is

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/879349968552591361
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 06, 2017, 10:26:23 AM
that 737-900 to SFO is a hot sled
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 06, 2017, 10:31:48 AM
12 isn't the set number of lanes that will be at the new terminal btw. That's still TBD. 12 is based on 2013 data that needs to be refreshed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 06, 2017, 10:38:42 AM
When I lived by the quaff and there was an invent going on at the Sprint Center, I could never find a place to park on Washington street or anywhere around there. I have a crap ton of parking tickets as well that I had to pay for because it's only "2 hour parking" during the day and they come around and mark your tires to see how long you've been there. If I took a sick day or just a day off period and forgot my car was parked on a side street, I was mumped. Add 30K to what's already a crap show.
Street parking isn't for long term car storage. There was a garage you could buy a spot for in the alley.
Yeah, I didn't want to pay $75 a month for it tho.
Holy crap. Any description of "parking is a nightmare", that was solvable by having a reserved garage spot for $2.50 a day is hilarious.  Parking in KC is just about the easiest thing ever, except that we all grew up in the suburbs conditioned to complain about having to park in the back half of the lot at Price Chopper.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 06, 2017, 11:32:03 AM
lack of tsa checkpoints is the airlines’ issue, not the airport’s
it’s no wonder united doesn’t have one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 06, 2017, 11:44:31 AM
lack of tsa checkpoints is the airlines’ issue, not the airport’s
it’s no wonder united doesn’t have one
It's a space issue. Only so many s.f. for checkpoints...but yes airlines have input.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 06, 2017, 12:05:06 PM
non-'gloids can look at those pictures and figure out pretty easily that their experience will improve drastically

in what way?

every way

If I have to go through security with the unwashed SW masses, my experience will definitely not improve.
Precheck for all gates. Mind blowing concept.

A list pref/Pre check -  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 06, 2017, 05:45:33 PM
lack of tsa checkpoints is the airlines’ issue, not the airport’s
it’s no wonder united doesn’t have one
It's a space issue. Only so many s.f. for checkpoints...but yes airlines have input.


airlines pay for it and sq footage isn’t an issue at united gates
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 06, 2017, 08:34:59 PM
When I lived by the quaff and there was an invent going on at the Sprint Center, I could never find a place to park on Washington street or anywhere around there. I have a crap ton of parking tickets as well that I had to pay for because it's only "2 hour parking" during the day and they come around and mark your tires to see how long you've been there. If I took a sick day or just a day off period and forgot my car was parked on a side street, I was mumped. Add 30K to what's already a crap show.
Street parking isn't for long term car storage. There was a garage you could buy a spot for in the alley.
Yeah, I didn't want to pay $75 a month for it tho.
Holy crap. Any description of "parking is a nightmare", that was solvable by having a reserved garage spot for $2.50 a day is hilarious.  Parking in KC is just about the easiest thing ever, except that we all grew up in the suburbs conditioned to complain about having to park in the back half of the lot at Price Chopper.

I think Wacky wishes KC was just 40 Salinas copy/pasted next to each other.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 06, 2017, 08:37:53 PM
When I lived by the quaff and there was an invent going on at the Sprint Center, I could never find a place to park on Washington street or anywhere around there. I have a crap ton of parking tickets as well that I had to pay for because it's only "2 hour parking" during the day and they come around and mark your tires to see how long you've been there. If I took a sick day or just a day off period and forgot my car was parked on a side street, I was mumped. Add 30K to what's already a crap show.
Street parking isn't for long term car storage. There was a garage you could buy a spot for in the alley.
Yeah, I didn't want to pay $75 a month for it tho.
Holy crap. Any description of "parking is a nightmare", that was solvable by having a reserved garage spot for $2.50 a day is hilarious.  Parking in KC is just about the easiest thing ever, except that we all grew up in the suburbs conditioned to complain about having to park in the back half of the lot at Price Chopper.

I think Wacky wishes KC was just 40 Salinas copy/pasted next to each other.
Hahaha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 06, 2017, 10:32:12 PM
I hate Salina. Woof! :Yuck: Just think there will be a log jam downtown. I am a cheap ass tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 08, 2017, 10:03:18 PM

KC Star Editorial Staff: The KCI convenience myth: Kansas City’s outdated airport is familiar but not functional (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article177540616.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2017, 05:51:17 PM
Apparently the main st max is moving to Grand (downtown only).
It's a farther walk to the nearest stop for me now but still pretty good.

EXCEPT when there is a daytime event at sprint center (wtf?), so grand is closed off completely and then the max is rerouted all the way over to Oak and it's a total clusterfuck. Anybody know what sprint center event would necessitate closing Grand at 8 am this week?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 10, 2017, 05:54:54 PM
Apparently the main st max is moving to Grand (downtown only).
It's a farther walk to the nearest stop for me now but still pretty good.

EXCEPT when there is a daytime event at sprint center (wtf?), so grand is closed off completely and then the max is rerouted all the way over to Oak and it's a total clusterfuck. Anybody know what sprint center event would necessitate closing Grand at 8 am this week?

Cerner.   Yes closing Grand so much when we moved so many bus lanes to Grand is annoying.

I haven't taken the new MAX route yet but I was a big fan of the move even though it causes me 3x the walk to use....just so dumb to weave back and forth through the downtown loop.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 10, 2017, 06:00:27 PM
yep the cerner clowns took over downtown a month earlier than last year but the weather kept them contained today

even chipotle wasn’t too bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 10, 2017, 06:03:26 PM
yep the cerner clowns took over downtown a month earlier than last year but the weather kept them contained today

even chipotle wasn’t too bad

I've never noticed them gumming up my lunch places....Cerner doesn't feed them?  Damn.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on October 11, 2017, 08:46:58 AM
https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/918084016011665409
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2017, 09:00:07 AM
probably been shopping for industrial size Coffey filters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 11, 2017, 09:46:10 AM
he's going to announce that we landed the amazon 2HQ, wow great job slyin
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 11, 2017, 09:51:50 AM
How do you feel about this 'Clams and Titola? I need to know how I feel about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 11, 2017, 09:53:39 AM
Probably announcing how formal of a bid we just put in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2017, 09:57:17 AM
Slyin! Can't wait!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 10:03:57 AM
How do you feel about this 'Clams and Titola? I need to know how I feel about it.
Maybe form your own on it. It will bring growth to KC tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 11, 2017, 10:11:55 AM
How do you feel about this 'Clams and Titola? I need to know how I feel about it.

dude we're not going to win the bid
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2017, 10:15:10 AM
We might now that we have a sexy airport  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2017, 10:34:17 AM
How do you feel about this 'Clams and Titola? I need to know how I feel about it.

dude we're not going to win the bid
Agreed. Worth putting a bid together though. We do have a lot of cheap land to offer but not much else thanks to decades of "what we have is good enough here"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2017, 11:29:12 AM
i think it might end up in Columbus, OH
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 11, 2017, 11:48:57 AM
How do you feel about this 'Clams and Titola? I need to know how I feel about it.

dude we're not going to win the bid
Agreed. Worth putting a bid together though. We do have a lot of cheap land to offer but not much else thanks to decades of "what we have is good enough here"

Thanks for both of your input. I'll take this into account.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2017, 12:18:48 PM
https://twitter.com/johnhcook/status/918124912232902656
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 11, 2017, 03:01:11 PM
OK let's see what's this is all about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 03:09:21 PM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/918205849520295937
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 03:10:27 PM
That was it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on October 11, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
I love this bow tie I bought on Amazon! #KC5stars
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2017, 03:13:36 PM
That's a rough ridin' great idea. I love Slyin.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 03:17:49 PM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/stephenmarcus54/status/918206537910407168

https://twitter.com/ChrisBatz/status/918208357143666688

https://twitter.com/mndamon/status/918207395561603072

https://twitter.com/johnycan/status/918207783207690240
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2017, 03:21:05 PM
What genius came up with that? Trolling Amazon product reviews? Woof.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 11, 2017, 03:22:07 PM
Well we got nothing to fear then
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 03:23:57 PM
https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/918208683930251264
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 11, 2017, 03:25:19 PM
#notmymayor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2017, 03:31:19 PM
Looks like I'm not the only one who loves this idea. http://kc5stars.com/

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2017, 03:40:50 PM
That's whatever the KC version of KSTATE0 is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2017, 03:42:29 PM
That's whatever the KC version of KSTATE0 is.

MCI
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2017, 03:49:51 PM
I got on the website. IT IS AMAZING!

Quote
The Very Hungry Caterpillar

I think we can all agree that this book’s a winner. Ding! Ding! But it’s more than a gem of a book. Here comes an analogy. Like the caterpillar is for food, our youth is hungry for knowledge. Kansas City has been amping IT up by providing KC kiddos and non-profits like Turn the Page with the tools to satisfy their hunger. Reading proficiency is up and we cannot be more thrilled. Thrilled that books like Eric Carle’s are the reason for it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
Quote
Hot Dog Toddler Costume

Let's take a vote: is a hot dog a sandwich? What if you put Gate's Original BBQ sauce on it--then is it a sandwich? It's meat between two pieces of bread. Sounds like a sandwich to me. And if I'm going to recommend a halloween costume for kids, I'd choose a Hot Dog costume. KC loves our BBQ meats!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2017, 03:53:26 PM
Every review is a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
Amazing, I love it, f the haters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2017, 03:59:17 PM
Quote

Baby Train Engineer Costume

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81KA4HaggrL._UY679_.jpg)

My only complaint is that it doesn't come in man sizes.

Not a single mention of the street car, though. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2017, 04:02:42 PM
Quote
Wind chimes

I'll tell you, when I'm sitting in the backyard of my reasonably priced home in a safe neighborhood with great schools and these chimes start to tinkle, it feels like the whole world is singing just for me.

SOLD :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 04:05:44 PM
JFC, I hope assistants were doing all of this work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2017, 04:07:06 PM
Quote
Luvs Ultra Leakguard Diapers

I haven't worn diapers in decades, but as the mayor of Kansas City, the nation's number 7 city to raise a family, I do represent tens of thousands of babies who depend on their diaper's leak-guard technology to make it through the day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2017, 04:08:46 PM
Reminds me of J. Peterman ads Elaine wrote on Seinfeld
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2017, 04:12:45 PM
Quote
Swingline Staples

5,000 per box is a lofty promise, yet I've never come across a box with 4,999.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 04:13:35 PM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/drkencham/status/918215683892285442
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2017, 04:20:12 PM
I really, really hope he comes back and posts a bunch of 1 star reviews after KC doesn't get picked.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 11, 2017, 04:30:25 PM
I don't understand the hate for Sly. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2017, 05:02:15 PM
I don't understand the hate for Sly.
Clams likes no change.... Wacky does want clams does. Everybody else likes slyin
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 11, 2017, 05:43:46 PM
I don't understand the hate for Sly.
Clams likes no change.... Wacky does want clams does. Everybody else likes slyin

I don't hate him, but this is a fairly adorkable campaign. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 05:45:39 PM
That's adorable. You, lib, and Mocat are inseparable. Parrots!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2017, 05:45:54 PM
Quote
Hot Dog Toddler Costume

Let's take a vote: is a hot dog a sandwich? What if you put Gate's Original BBQ sauce on it--then is it a sandwich? It's meat between two pieces of bread. Sounds like a sandwich to me. And if I'm going to recommend a halloween costume for kids, I'd choose a Hot Dog costume. KC loves our BBQ meats!

holy crap, a Judge John Hodgman reference! :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2017, 05:50:59 PM
Wacky IRL tweeted at Sly asking why there was so much construction on 435.....in JOCO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 05:53:31 PM
I never mentioned a side of the state line, dipshit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
I don't understand the hate for Sly.
Clams likes no change.... Wacky does want clams does. Everybody else likes slyin

I don't hate him, but this is a fairly adorkable campaign.
It is. Liking him doesn't mean liking everything he does. He's kind of a D in a lot of council meetings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2017, 06:08:18 PM
That's adorable. You, lib, and Mocat are inseparable. Parrots!


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Is "you" me? Not sure what you mean but it was a joke bud...you and clams are def the two most outspoken sly haters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 06:09:53 PM
Yes, I just disagree with some things.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2017, 06:30:08 PM
I never mentioned a side of the state line, dipshit.

You didn't have to
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2017, 06:37:51 PM
Good stuff, man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on October 11, 2017, 10:59:02 PM
I like Sly, I have an irl working relationship w him. But, this was super dumb and a big waste of everyone's time.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 12, 2017, 08:31:28 AM
As dorky as it was, I appreciate the effort and the love for his city.  At least he didn't send a giant cactus or bottle of BBQ sauce. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 12, 2017, 09:01:36 AM
As dorky as it was, I appreciate the effort and the love for his city. At least he didn't send a giant cactus or bottle of BBQ sauce.

I will also agree with this. A lot of those reviews are pretty delightful to read.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2017, 09:11:29 AM
They're great reads, but man, did he really spend all that time writing 1000 reviews?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2017, 09:15:34 AM
Probably. It's not like he has anything better to do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 12, 2017, 09:17:03 AM
They're great reads, but man, did he really spend all that time writing 1000 reviews?

I'm sure there were some staff members/volunteers coming up with what items to buy for charity, a few then writing all the reviews in like word, and then a few logging in with Sly to "type" (ctrl+c ctrl +v) the reviews and post. I would imagine 1000 reviews would take some time for 1 person to do, especially with all the wit/humor part added in. Let alone how busy he is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
They're great reads, but man, did he really spend all that time writing 1000 reviews?

I'm sure there were some staff members/volunteers coming up with what items to buy for charity, a few then writing all the reviews in like word, and then a few logging in with Sly to "type" (ctrl+c ctrl +v) the reviews and post. I would imagine 1000 reviews would take some time for 1 person to do, especially with all the wit/humor part added in. Let alone how busy he is.
This is mainly why I asked. Seems tiring.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 12, 2017, 09:22:57 AM
For naturals like Sly and me, it's actually invigorating!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 12, 2017, 09:27:44 AM
As dorky as it was, I appreciate the effort and the love for his city.  At least he didn't send a giant cactus or bottle of BBQ sauce. 

i think he likes attention, power, and kansas city.  in that order.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 12, 2017, 09:44:26 AM
As dorky as it was, I appreciate the effort and the love for his city.  At least he didn't send a giant cactus or bottle of BBQ sauce. 

i think he likes attention, power, and kansas city.  in that order.

i think he likes himself, attention, power, and kansas city.  in that order.

^updated
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2017, 10:21:05 AM
I would bet money the city hired a private firm to write the reviews
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2017, 10:46:28 AM
https://twitter.com/JarrettTSutton/status/918487797266354176
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 12, 2017, 10:53:50 AM
MU vs KU at sprint?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2017, 10:54:23 AM
God, I hope not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 12, 2017, 11:02:06 AM
Guys there is a disaster nobody is talking about. It involves the streetcar and it's affect on a neighborhood called the east crossroads. This is generally the area east of grand around 18th. 

Well as you may know from food Network lore, the east crossroads is home to a fine establishment called grinders. It sat there like an oasis in an otherwise dead neighborhood which was a void between two great neighborhoods with 18th and Vine area to the east.

So along comes this streetcar thing and it's additional property and sales tax, flopping it's D all over the east crossroads. Stretch fought it because he knew it would kill his business....boy was he right.  The year was 2013.

2013 the pillaging started with property tax increases and sales tax increases to the poor east crossroads and it's empty buildings. Welp, grinders may survive but no way anybody is going to invest in this area with the higher taxes...look how far away it is from the streetcar and still paying the taxes. Empty buildings will remain forever and that void between the real crossroads and 18th and Vine will never be bridged.

2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017....

So here we are. 2017 ending. East crossroads is....ummm...booming?  Boomed?  Quick summary...

* Dozens of buildings renovated and occupied
* 4 soon to be 5 breweries
* At least 5 new bars in addition to breweries with many more under construction.
* New retail open and more on its way
* Condos under construction
* distillery, winery
* New food hall coming and other restaurants now open
* Daily see people walking east from crossroads past grand
* Surface lots being abandoned by businesses so they can sell them for redevelopment (children's Mercy giving up 8 acres of parking ....new ballpark?)
* Bike lane coming to 18th to connect crossroads to 18th and Vine.

Gross what has happened over there....you can walk down any street and not see an old building being rehabbed.  Sad. Feel bad for our guy KCFD among others.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 12, 2017, 11:03:11 AM
MU vs KU at sprint?

yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 12, 2017, 11:04:44 AM
Who is going to see rod and pullz tomorrow? Just grabbed some tickets!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 12, 2017, 11:05:59 AM
MU vs KU at sprint?

yes

exhibition next weekend, proceeds will go to hurricane relief
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 12, 2017, 11:14:40 AM
MU vs KU at sprint?

yes


(https://media.tenor.com/images/bc529c35ca15d7c354d66c5c838e53a5/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 12, 2017, 11:15:52 AM
MU vs KU at sprint?

yes

exhibition next weekend, proceeds will go to hurricane relief
But will they have family stickers with weird emoji hands and US states.....NO PUERTO RICO THOUGH
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 12, 2017, 02:02:55 PM
https://twitter.com/SorenPetro/status/918552248057303042
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
That's pretty awesome
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 12, 2017, 02:09:52 PM
God, I hope not.

That's pretty awesome

dr wackyl and mr hide
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2017, 02:17:53 PM
1. I was hoping it would be something bigger and more awesome. 2. I didn't know they were doing it to raise money for hurricane relief.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2017, 02:20:58 PM
1. I was hoping it would be something bigger and more awesome. 2. I didn't know they were doing it to raise money for hurricane relief.

Hey me too  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2017, 02:22:07 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 12, 2017, 02:37:39 PM
:cheers:
Agreed. Big news is not some cheesedick exhibition border war
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 12, 2017, 02:40:28 PM
I wish we had a rival to do cool crap like this.  If we had a Farmageddon at Sprint Center for charity, we would have 500 fans show up. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2017, 02:42:02 PM
I wish we could have made Nebraska something, like how Mizzou and Illinois force a rivalry. It could have been fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 12, 2017, 02:56:17 PM
I wish we had a rival to do cool crap like this.  If we had a Farmageddon at Sprint Center for charity, we would have 500 fans show up. 

nah bro have you ever been to an event featuring an iowa state squad? tucked in maroon polos as far as the eye can see
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 12, 2017, 02:57:48 PM
I wish we had a rival to do cool crap like this.  If we had a Farmageddon at Sprint Center for charity, we would have 500 fans show up. 

nah bro have you ever been to an event featuring an iowa state squad? tucked in maroon polos as far as the eye can see
And the guys dress poorly as well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on October 12, 2017, 03:23:41 PM
I've already donated to hurricane relief (PR-specific) for college hoops-based reasons through Angel's fundraiser.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 12, 2017, 04:09:50 PM
I've already donated to hurricane relief (PR-specific) for college hoops-based reasons through Angel's fundraiser.
I'm sure this Midwestern fundraiser will only include real Americans anyways
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on October 12, 2017, 10:43:51 PM
They're great reads, but man, did he really spend all that time writing 1000 reviews?

I'm sure there were some staff members/volunteers coming up with what items to buy for charity, a few then writing all the reviews in like word, and then a few logging in with Sly to "type" (ctrl+c ctrl +v) the reviews and post. I would imagine 1000 reviews would take some time for 1 person to do, especially with all the wit/humor part added in. Let alone how busy he is.
This is mainly why I asked. Seems tiring.

i dont think there is a limit to the number of concurrent logins to an amazon account
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 13, 2017, 03:53:15 PM
is there anything better than being a patron of the crossroads drinking establishments on a cloudless friday afternoon? wow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 13, 2017, 04:39:41 PM
I wish we had a rival to do cool crap like this.  If we had a Farmageddon at Sprint Center for charity, we would have 500 fans show up. 

nah bro have you ever been to an event featuring an iowa state squad? tucked in maroon polos as far as the eye can see

So damn true. KC becomes flooded with them
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 13, 2017, 04:47:36 PM
is there anything better than being a patron of the crossroads drinking establishments on a cloudless friday afternoon? wow

Brewery Emperial is perfect for this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 13, 2017, 04:58:55 PM
is there anything better than being a patron of the crossroads drinking establishments on a cloudless friday afternoon? wow

I don't know if you noticed but it's hot af outside rn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 13, 2017, 05:04:48 PM
Nah brah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 18, 2017, 11:43:44 AM
i'm sure it has nothing to do with the airport

http://www.flykci.com/newsroom/news-releases/september-2017-kci-airport-traffic-statistics/ (http://www.flykci.com/newsroom/news-releases/september-2017-kci-airport-traffic-statistics/)

Quote
The City of Kansas City, Mo., Aviation Department reports that 915,461 passengers arrived and departed through Kansas City International Airport’s gates in September, a 1.9-percent decrease from September 2016. Passenger boardings were down 2.3 percent, with a total of 458,553 boarded. For the year to date, total passengers in and out total 8,616,491, up 4.5 percent. Year-to-date passenger boardings are 4,308,157 up 4.5 percent.

“We regret to see our streak of consecutive traffic growth come to an end,” said Kansas City Director of Aviation Pat Klein. “While exasperated by a higher than usual number of weather cancellations, our airline partners have also reversed their growth in flight capacity at Kansas City International Airport and, unfortunately, are now flying fewer flights.  Looking at future flight schedules, the reduction of capacity at KCI may continue through the end of 2017.”
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
“was going to the great city of kansas city, but then i remembered that dang airport of theirs which i’m going to fly into and be in my car 5 minutes after landing so i cancelled my trip”

“johnson!  i need you in KC stat! i set up a big meeting with the big dogs at that big company that we do business with there!  wait, that airport hasn’t been updated in a few years!  johnson, cancel that big meeting and stop doing business with that company, stat!!”

“hi honey, looking forward to getting out of kc for a few days and relaxing on the beach, i love you so much. wait, i forgot, we haven’t updated our airport.  cancel the beach vacation and cancel you, i’m done with this farce of a relationship!”

all very plausible scenarios
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2017, 12:24:30 PM
clams that quote is suggesting there were fewer available flights, not fewer people deciding to fly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 12:28:29 PM
“was going to go on vacation but unfortunately there were no flights”

“was going to go to a meeting but unfortunately there were no flights”

all very plausible scenarios
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 18, 2017, 12:30:45 PM
would be interesting to see trend of % of seats filled out of seats available
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 18, 2017, 12:31:54 PM
“was going to go on vacation but unfortunately there were no flights”

“was going to go to a meeting but unfortunately there were no flights”

all very plausible scenarios

"going to nashville for a football game but there are very limited options so the price has skyrocketed for that weekend so i guess i'll just drive instead."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 18, 2017, 01:12:33 PM


“was going to the great city of kansas city, but then i remembered that dang airport of theirs which i’m going to fly into and be in my car 5 minutes after landing so i cancelled my trip”

“johnson!  i need you in KC stat! i set up a big meeting with the big dogs at that big company that we do business with there!  wait, that airport hasn’t been updated in a few years!  johnson, cancel that big meeting and stop doing business with that company, stat!!”

“hi honey, looking forward to getting out of kc for a few days and relaxing on the beach, i love you so much. wait, i forgot, we haven’t updated our airport.  cancel the beach vacation and cancel you, i’m done with this farce of a relationship!”

all very plausible scenarios

1) Last time I landed at KC it took me 30 minutes from plane to Uber. That's an absolute fact.

2) Johnson can't get to KC on time due to less direct flights. Lost the deal.

3) they live in emporia and drove to Wichita instead...same price, same connection needed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on October 18, 2017, 01:19:20 PM
I flew to Wichita instead of KC to get to FattyFest, with the airport being a factor along with longbones and odds of respective locals going to FattyFest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 01:27:32 PM
I flew to Wichita instead of KC to get to FattyFest, with the airport being a factor along with longbones and odds of respective locals going to FattyFest.

of the previous 5 scenarios, this is the only one that i believe to be true

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 01:29:50 PM
niles, the je dunn crane at two light came down today #sad
that place went up fast, exterior is complete.  i’d guess they could send an army in there tomorrow to begin the interior work and have it wrapped up early
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 18, 2017, 01:32:12 PM
niles, the je dunn crane at two light came down today #sad
that place went up fast, exterior is complete.  i’d guess they could send an army in there tomorrow to begin the interior work and have it wrapped up early
Three light should be announced soon....ground breaking next spring.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 02:16:20 PM
where’s it going
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 18, 2017, 02:22:06 PM
where’s it going
Across walnut in that parking lot.  Fingers crossed it's not a spitting image of 2
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 02:29:34 PM
two would be much nicer looking if they had used more of that fake stone that’s on the north and east sides rather than going for the corporate woods 1980’s vibe. 

i’m afraid to see what the new block building in my hood is going to look like
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2017, 02:34:52 PM
46 Penn?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2017, 02:37:49 PM
i think two light looks good but my god who approved the naming system/why does it need to be printed in giant letters on the buildings?  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 18, 2017, 02:38:03 PM
Nice job, KC!  :Woot:

https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/920282808706363393
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 02:38:13 PM
yeah 46 penn, mostly glass exterior
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2017, 02:38:23 PM
(http://www.blockllc.com/BusinessDevelopments/images/46_Penn_Centre.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2017, 02:39:26 PM
I bid that one but the gc pulled some shady crap :angry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2017, 02:40:16 PM
glass is ok imo. one kansas city place is all glass and it still looks good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 02:42:23 PM
ya it’s pretty ugly, glad you backed out of the sob
hopefully the christian science reading room decides to expand vertically about 30 stories
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 02:43:27 PM
glass is ok imo. one kansas city place is all glass and it still looks good
that looks like crap, hr block’s all glass building downtown looks like a stick of deodorant but good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2017, 02:44:58 PM
hmm weird take.

can you post a photo of a scraper with the ideal facade?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 02:47:41 PM
it just depends on it’s surroundings
block is slapping down a giant mirror in the middle of brick land usa
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 18, 2017, 02:50:15 PM
Will I be able to see any of this from my giant office window? tia.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 18, 2017, 02:52:08 PM
Will I be able to see any of this from my giant office window? tia.

Like a whole 23 square feet I'm talking.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2017, 02:54:17 PM
it just depends on it’s surroundings
block is slapping down a giant mirror in the middle of brick land usa

yeah that thing does not belong in the plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 18, 2017, 02:59:44 PM
ya it’s pretty ugly, glad you backed out of the sob
hopefully the christian science reading room decides to expand vertically about 30 stories
The developer says it's going to be the most iconic building in KC....this is not a joke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2017, 03:02:48 PM
ya it’s pretty ugly, glad you backed out of the sob
hopefully the christian science reading room decides to expand vertically about 30 stories
The developer says it's going to be the most iconic building in KC....this is not a joke


(http://www.blockllc.com/BusinessDevelopments/images/46_Penn_Centre.jpg)

that thing ^^ ?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 18, 2017, 03:08:22 PM
Yup. It's behind the biz journal paywall....but the headline is "$93M plaza office tower will be 'icon of Kansas city's"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 18, 2017, 03:16:02 PM
Will I be able to see any of this from my giant office window? tia.

Like a whole 23 square feet I'm talking.  :D

No  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2017, 03:18:45 PM
Yup. It's behind the biz journal paywall....but the headline is "$93M plaza office tower will be 'icon of Kansas city's"

i will say it does evoke the classic kansas city ice storm by featuring a giant windshield scraper on the top
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 18, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
#i'm #with #slyin' #contraction #amazonairport

Quote
"The density that's being built is exactly what cities of our size need in order to sustain themselves," James said. "When you have a city this big, what you don't need is to be spreading out. You need to be contracting in so that services can be consolidated, transportation can be more focused.
...
"As we continue to grow and as we continue to do things like pursue Amazon and a new airport terminal, these are all things that will mesh together to make this city in the next 10 years even better than it is today and to bring its profile up, not just here in the city, not just in the state, not just in the region but around the country and the world."

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2017/10/16/block-real-estate-services-46-penn-centre-building.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2017, 03:31:18 PM
Yup. It's behind the biz journal paywall....but the headline is "$93M plaza office tower will be 'icon of Kansas city's"

looks similar to the OP convention center
rarely if ever do these projects look better than the renderings so there’s that

flip side is that it should attract business to the 64112, not sure how tif’d this thing is

i will say it does evoke the classic kansas city ice storm by featuring a giant windshield scraper on the top
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2017, 03:32:47 PM
Also looks like the lenexa Hyatt convention center
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 18, 2017, 05:00:24 PM

Yup. It's behind the biz journal paywall....but the headline is "$93M plaza office tower will be 'icon of Kansas city's"

looks similar to the OP convention center

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib
Also looks like the lenexa Hyatt convention center

Obv iconic KC buildings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 06:52:53 AM
https://twitter.com/RarexForm/status/920956732611821568
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 07:59:09 AM
i don't believe that was taken at 5 am this morning but if it was, it's certainly not the norm and believe it or not, things happen at every airport in the world that cause back ups

still voting no!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 08:44:01 AM
i don't believe that was taken at 5 am this morning but if it was, it's certainly not the norm and believe it or not, things happen at every airport in the world that cause back ups

still voting no!
These pics come up ever-y-day on Twitter.  When those lines happen at other airports they can open up more security lanes...which as we know is impossible at kci.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2017, 08:47:38 AM
Do you follow every KC citizen on twitter? That guys account is so random.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on October 19, 2017, 08:49:36 AM
ON A THURSDAY.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 08:50:38 AM
Do you follow every KC citizen on twitter? That guys account is so random.
@newkci has a bigger boner for a new airport than I... RT these things....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2017, 08:51:09 AM
ON A THURSDAY.
Yeah, how dare there be a goddamn line, ON A rough ridin' THURSDAY!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2017, 08:56:28 AM
Fascinating case study of how Neanderthals cope when given proof that their beliefs are not backed up by facts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2017, 08:57:45 AM
that's a pretty long line  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2017, 08:58:22 AM
Fascinating case study of how Neanderthals cope when given proof that their beliefs are not backed up by facts.
There's a line today? Welp!

CASE CLOSED!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 09:02:14 AM
Fascinating case study of how Neanderthals cope when given proof that their beliefs are not backed up by facts.
There's a line today? Welp!

CASE CLOSED!
This is literally the only convenience stated even by the most passionate #savekci  peeps  for the current airport....the tweet is just one example of that being a fallacy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2017, 09:03:30 AM
I just wish ppl would send out tweets on how short the line is the other 95% of the time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 09:03:42 AM
i don't believe that was taken at 5 am this morning but if it was, it's certainly not the norm and believe it or not, things happen at every airport in the world that cause back ups

still voting no!
These pics come up ever-y-day on Twitter.  When those lines happen at other airports they can open up more security lanes...which as we know is impossible at kci.


so your claim is that that line is an every day occurrence at mci
and no, the solution at other airports isn't to open more lanes.  the solution is to wait in line like a normal human being and deal with it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 09:06:04 AM
I just wish ppl would send out tweets on how short the line is the other 95% of the time.
No doubt there are short security lines too...just like every other airport our size....and it's a tiny part of how poor kci is to use today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 09:09:10 AM
i don't believe that was taken at 5 am this morning but if it was, it's certainly not the norm and believe it or not, things happen at every airport in the world that cause back ups

still voting no!
These pics come up ever-y-day on Twitter.  When those lines happen at other airports they can open up more security lanes...which as we know is impossible at kci.


so your claim is that that line is an every day occurrence at mci
and no, the solution at other airports isn't to open more lanes.  the solution is to wait in line like a normal human being and deal with it.
Yes. Yes other airport security lines deal with flux in demand about 1000x better than the kci solution.  I bet those people can't wait to get through security and enjoy sitting on the floor!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 09:24:24 AM
i know you love slyin with all of your heart but if i was on your side of the new airport issue, i would be pretty pissed at him given how poorly he and his minions have bungled the effort.  when it's all said and done in a few weeks and the vote fails, you'll only have him and by proxy, yourself, to blame  #SAD
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 10:28:18 AM
i know you love slyin with all of your heart but if i was on your side of the new airport issue, i would be pretty pissed at him given how poorly he and his minions have bungled the effort.  when it's all said and done in a few weeks and the vote fails, you'll only have him and by proxy, yourself, to blame  #SAD
How could it be done better? There are certain KC residents scared of ant type of change and nothing will change their minds. Lost souls.

I'll try and get over it when it's only 60/40 pro vote
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 19, 2017, 10:43:28 AM
I wish Denver would just open up more security lines because they are always long af
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on October 19, 2017, 10:51:13 AM
5 A.M
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2017, 10:53:01 AM
I wish Denver would just open up more security lines because they are always long af
This. That line hungover AF after your wedding to board for our honeymoon was a goddamn nightmare. Every time waiting in that line sucks there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 19, 2017, 10:53:52 AM
i don't believe that was taken at 5 am this morning but if it was, it's certainly not the norm and believe it or not, things happen at every airport in the world that cause back ups

still voting no!
These pics come up ever-y-day on Twitter.  When those lines happen at other airports they can open up more security lanes...which as we know is impossible at kci.


so your claim is that that line is an every day occurrence at mci
and no, the solution at other airports isn't to open more lanes.  the solution is to wait in line like a normal human being and deal with it.

The solution is to be A List pref
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 11:02:59 AM
i don't believe that was taken at 5 am this morning but if it was, it's certainly not the norm and believe it or not, things happen at every airport in the world that cause back ups

still voting no!
These pics come up ever-y-day on Twitter.  When those lines happen at other airports they can open up more security lanes...which as we know is impossible at kci.


so your claim is that that line is an every day occurrence at mci
and no, the solution at other airports isn't to open more lanes.  the solution is to wait in line like a normal human being and deal with it.

The solution is to be A List pref

no.  the only solution is to spend a billion dollars on a new one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 11:04:58 AM
A) we aren't opening Denver international or their traffic.

B) still long lines at 10am....but ya know....convenience

https://twitter.com/lacleaver/status/921042071452037120
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2017, 11:06:29 AM
Denver has long lines but they go very quickly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 11:17:22 AM
Can we get an industrial engineer in here to opine on line functionality.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 11:46:47 AM
these long lines are coming under the orders of slyin' games james.  doing everything he can to push his new terminal agenda forward.
there is no doubt in my mind.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 19, 2017, 11:47:31 AM
Paid long line actors
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 11:49:00 AM
Paid long line actors

what's that?  a maintenance issue that just popped up?  yes, sir mr slyin' james, i'll get right on it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 19, 2017, 11:51:22 AM
https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/920071715199377409
https://twitter.com/markalfordkc/status/919923410028978177
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 11:53:38 AM
Paid long line actors

what's that?  a maintenance issue that just popped up?  yes, sir mr slyin' james, i'll get right on it
This is the way anti people win elections. False flags. Way to move KC forward clams! No real arguments to vote no so cause confusion and doubt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 12:10:09 PM
https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/920071715199377409
https://twitter.com/markalfordkc/status/919923410028978177

it's obviously happening
don't rely on slyin' james to tell the truth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 12:15:18 PM
https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/920071715199377409
https://twitter.com/markalfordkc/status/919923410028978177

it's obviously happening
don't rely on slyin' james to tell the truth
Maintenance budget has remained constant. AA gates just got a huge upgrade....planes are carrying more passengers and security hold areas  can't handle the increase..
but let facts get in the way of fearmongering.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 12:17:32 PM
Btw DIA ran 2MM people through security in July 2017....KCI? 500k. We aren't building a DIA terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 12:24:01 PM
lol so many inconsistencies
the sooner slyin is out of office, the better
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 19, 2017, 12:27:36 PM
A) we aren't opening Denver international or their traffic.

B) still long lines at 10am....but ya know....convenience

https://twitter.com/lacleaver/status/921042071452037120

Lines will always look worse because they don't serpentine like most places. That doesn't seem like much of a line TBH.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 19, 2017, 12:28:03 PM
also I'm pretty sure the chiefs let arrowhead get as shitty as possible during their push for a govt funded reno
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 12:30:55 PM
A) we aren't opening Denver international or their traffic.

B) still long lines at 10am....but ya know....convenience

https://twitter.com/lacleaver/status/921042071452037120

Lines will always look worse because they don't serpentine like most places. That doesn't seem like much of a line TBH.
That's a 30 minute wait I'd guess with only two TSA agents..and the limited number of screening points behind them.

Again let's remember this is a tiny part of the kci problem...this line is one thing kci lovers thinks works well! They even concede the rest of the experience is trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 19, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
Good god 30 whole minutes?  A billion dollars is totally worth it now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 12:41:36 PM
Good god 30 whole minutes?  A billion dollars is totally worth it now
A) The choice isn't a billion or zero.
B) read above where I said this is a small part of kci problem and the part that supposedly works well
C) TSA wants less than 10 minute lines
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 19, 2017, 12:43:35 PM
The only times I've waited for more than 15 minutes in the last 3+ years are all MCI. Came close at DIA in May. One anecdote and TSA precheck, but still.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2017, 12:52:46 PM
The only times I've waited for more than 15 minutes in the last 3+ years are all MCI. Came close at DIA in May. One anecdote and TSA precheck, but still.

Yup
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 19, 2017, 01:16:30 PM
Oh, 15-30 minute TSA wait is the worst case scenario? That's pretty pud.

Also, there are so many waits at an airport other than TSA wait, why worry so much about that one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 01:19:57 PM
Oh, 15-30 minute TSA wait is the worst case scenario? That's pretty pud.

Also, there are so many waits at an airport other than TSA wait, why worry so much about that one?
This is not even top 10 problem at kci. This is the part people thinks works well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
Oh, 15-30 minute TSA wait is the worst case scenario? That's pretty pud.

Also, there are so many waits at an airport other than TSA wait, why worry so much about that one?

because it's the easiest way to fear monger the public since it's an issue that effects us most (except me because i've never stood in line for > 10 minutes at kci

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 19, 2017, 02:16:53 PM
I surmise most people who don't want a new airport never fly.  If you've been to other modern airports in US and abroad, you understand there's not much to debate here.  MCI is an embarrassing crap hole.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2017, 02:27:52 PM
I surmise most people who don't want a new airport never fly.  If you've been to other modern airports in US and abroad, you understand there's not much to debate here.  MCI is an embarrassing crap hole.   
What ppl are these?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 02:34:59 PM
I surmise most people who don't want a new airport never fly.  If you've been to other modern airports in US and abroad, you understand there's not much to debate here.  MCI is an embarrassing crap hole.   
And many live in kcmo and have a vote. That's why the message being amplified is you don't fly you don't pay.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2017, 02:41:51 PM
with an airport being such an important keystone to a city for some of you, it's hard to imagine why you'd continue to live in kc considering your thoughts on ours
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 19, 2017, 02:44:44 PM
Oh, 15-30 minute TSA wait is the worst case scenario? That's pretty pud.

Also, there are so many waits at an airport other than TSA wait, why worry so much about that one?

I think that is the common scenario.  I think I posted about my 75 minute wait from January ITT.

What other waits are there in an airport?  Waiting for the bartender at the lounge?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2017, 02:51:01 PM
with an airport being such an important keystone to a city for some of you, it's hard to imagine why you'd continue to live in kc considering your thoughts on ours

i mean, or try to make it better
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 02:55:23 PM
with an airport being such an important keystone to a city for some of you, it's hard to imagine why you'd continue to live in kc considering your thoughts on ours
Always moving KC forward clams...it's a fun challenge to see the townies squirm.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 19, 2017, 02:59:05 PM
with an airport being such an important keystone to a city for some of you, it's hard to imagine why you'd continue to live in kc considering your thoughts on ours

It's precisely because I love KC that I want our facilities (stadiums, airports, museums, etc.) to reflect my vision of KC.  Kind of like athletic facilities at KSU - I continued supporting out Cats even during pre-reno BSFS days.  But we can all agree a major overhaul to BSFS/OOD was and is needed.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on October 19, 2017, 02:59:29 PM
It's kind of crazy that the proponents have allowed the debate to be about local flyer conveniences.  Locals are aware of what the airport is and can plan to show up at the optimal time where they won't have to be stuck in the shithole.  The need for a better terminal is to try to prove to visitors - leisure, but more importantly, business - that they haven't time-traveled back like 15 years or landed in a third-world country.

Was there a plan for how to get an amazon rep to visit KC without having to go through the airport?  Drones?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 19, 2017, 03:00:05 PM
I surmise most people who don't want a new airport never fly.  If you've been to other modern airports in US and abroad, you understand there's not much to debate here.  MCI is an embarrassing crap hole.   
What ppl are these?

see above.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
It's kind of crazy that the proponents have allowed the debate to be about local flyer conveniences.  Locals are aware of what the airport is and can plan to show up at the optimal time where they won't have to be stuck in the shithole.  The need for a better terminal is to try to prove to visitors - leisure, but more importantly, business - that they haven't time-traveled back like 15 years or landed in a third-world country.

Was there a plan for how to get an amazon rep to visit KC without having to go through the airport?  Drones?

Fly private into downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 19, 2017, 03:03:14 PM
It's kind of crazy that the proponents have allowed the debate to be about local flyer conveniences. 


you've got to address all arguments - but what I hear most often from Sly and most proponents is simply that MCI is a complete shithole and we don't want MCI to be the first and last impression of visitors/business travelers.  This - and power outages and sewage/plumbing interruption are pretty inconvenient for most flyers. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 03:05:36 PM
It's kind of crazy that the proponents have allowed the debate to be about local flyer conveniences.  Locals are aware of what the airport is and can plan to show up at the optimal time where they won't have to be stuck in the shithole.  The need for a better terminal is to try to prove to visitors - leisure, but more importantly, business - that they haven't time-traveled back like 15 years or landed in a third-world country.

Was there a plan for how to get an amazon rep to visit KC without having to go through the airport?  Drones?
Every answer to that is "airports aren't malls, it works fine for me, I don't care about business travelers coming here"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 19, 2017, 03:07:41 PM
Oh, 15-30 minute TSA wait is the worst case scenario? That's pretty pud.

Also, there are so many waits at an airport other than TSA wait, why worry so much about that one?

I think that is the common scenario.  I think I posted about my 75 minute wait from January ITT.

What other waits are there in an airport?  Waiting for the bartender at the lounge?

Wait for long term parking shuttle after parking car, wait during shuttle ride, wait while others exit shuttle, wait to check in and/or check bag, wait while riding escalators/conveyors/trains to terminal, wait in terminal for boarding, wait for everyone to eff with stowing their crap and sit in their seats on the plane, wait for the rough ridin' slow ass pilot to start driving, wait on the runway behind seven other slow ass pilots until you are rough ridin' cleared for rough ridin' take off, wait for-rough ridin'-ever for them to open that goddamn door, wait for everyone to retrieve their crap and deplane, wait for baggage at the carousel, wait for the rental car shuttle, wait in line for the rental car counter, wait once you are at the rental car counter, and wait to pay for long term parking before leaving.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2017, 05:41:52 PM
Ok the grand max with a sprint center event is the worst. I am at a south bound stop at 31st and main and there are three (3) max buses stopped at the same exact time. Should be 10 mins apart but they're all backed up from the rerouting. They need to figure out a better alternate route
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 05:51:31 PM
Ok the grand max with a sprint center event is the worst. I am at a south bound stop at 31st and main and there are three (3) max buses stopped at the same exact time. Should be 10 mins apart but they're all backed up from the rerouting. They need to figure out a better alternate route

Help me understand how that's due to a reroute at 14th...I've been at 31st southbound this time of night prior to the Grand move and had that exact situation because I had got on the plaza only one and decided to jump out at 31st and wait for the waldo one....when I got out, the effing thing was right behind me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2017, 06:01:19 PM
Yeah that happens occasionally no matter what but 3 buses is crazy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2017, 06:17:26 PM
Yeah that happens occasionally no matter what but 3 buses is crazy

probably needs to reroute at like 10th vs. 12th....dedicated streetcar lane in midtown and all your troubles will go away....move Main MAX east a few blocks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2017, 07:00:54 AM
Want me to get you one clams?


Please stop by and pick up a sign at the campaign office anytime between 10am and 6pm Monday thru Friday, or 11am to 5pm on Saturday or Sunday.

The office is located at the address below. Please enter the building on south side.
 
3100 Gillham Plaza, Kansas City, MO 64109

For more information or questions please goto www.betterkci.org.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 06:37:34 PM
Super lib coworker of mine who says no as well. :love:

https://twitter.com/courtneyfos/status/922236628864774145
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 22, 2017, 06:48:19 PM
Courtney must not fly SW
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 06:54:20 PM
That's all we fly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2017, 07:01:14 PM
I'll let slyin james know some random chick in op is voting no, he'll be devastated
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 07:02:27 PM
She's Missouri homie!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 07:04:25 PM
Super lib coworker of mine who says no as well. :love:

https://twitter.com/courtneyfos/status/922236628864774145

What does this have to do with traveling whatsoever?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 07:06:01 PM
Has to do with the new airport and it has everything to do with how efficient it currently is.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 07:15:59 PM
Has to do with the new airport and it has everything to do with how efficient it currently is.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 07:19:18 PM
Most super libs dgaf about how the citizen tax $'s are spent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 07:20:59 PM
Nice recovery
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 07:22:36 PM
Kinda what I was going for the whole time.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2017, 07:24:04 PM
Expand on how tax money is related to the new airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 07:25:17 PM
Explain how it won't.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on October 22, 2017, 07:26:26 PM
Is a big element of the perceived current convenience how short of a distance it is from one’s parked car to the building?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2017, 07:26:55 PM
Well the most relevant way is that no tax money would be used to build it. Ok your turn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 07:27:13 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 07:27:30 PM
And you really believe that?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2017, 07:29:53 PM
JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 07:30:13 PM
The non-tax funded KC airport is the libs fault I mean :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 22, 2017, 07:32:42 PM
And you really believe that?


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Hahaha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 07:33:02 PM
It's definitely a lol case that they think is true. It's a billion $ project. We're not getting Amazon, so they're just parroting slys plans.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2017, 07:35:33 PM
Bud, you're intentionally ignorant on the subject. They literally can't use tax money to build it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 07:36:35 PM
JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

RUSSIA DIDNT MEDDLE IN OUR ELECTION
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 07:38:42 PM
Actually in fantasy land you CAN use tax dollars to build it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 07:38:53 PM
And they will come
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2017, 07:39:50 PM
Go away, I'm having a civil discussion with my friend wackycat08
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 08:07:24 PM
I honestly have no idea how this is gonna work. I have tomorrow off to be their with my mom as she sells off the land she grew up on. I just have a hard time believing our tax $'s won't be hit on this. Again, I'm naive and am as assuming at this point.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 22, 2017, 08:12:58 PM
I honestly have no idea how this is gonna work. I have tomorrow off to be their with my mom as she sells off the land she grew up on. I just have a hard time believing our tax $'s won't be hit on this. Again, I'm naive and am as assuming at this point.


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You are a good guy WackyCat08 and don’t let anyone convince you otherwise.  This blog is not real life.  IRL bud :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 22, 2017, 08:14:05 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 23, 2017, 08:30:13 AM
Slyin at it again with these fake lines

https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/922162216341835777
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 23, 2017, 08:31:22 AM
I honestly have no idea how this is gonna work. I have tomorrow off to be their with my mom as she sells off the land she grew up on. I just have a hard time believing our tax $'s won't be hit on this. Again, I'm naive and am as assuming at this point.


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All good quality debates start with one side admitting they have no idea how the topic under debate works.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 12:33:10 PM
Southwest donated 50k to the pro kci terminal election side and will be in KC Friday assuming to drum up voter support.

Freedom Inc has also sent out a pro new kci terminal educational document.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 24, 2017, 12:36:21 PM
Whoa! 50K? Watch out!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 24, 2017, 12:41:00 PM
That's a drop in the bucket compared to what will come out of wacky's paycheck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 12:42:02 PM
Whoa! 50K? Watch out!
Your favorite airline is for this wacky....should be all you need to hear.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 24, 2017, 12:42:31 PM
That's a drop in the bucket compared to what will come out of wacky's paycheck
HUR HUR HUR
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 24, 2017, 12:43:47 PM
I think stating that there is no risk to tax payers is a bit deceiving
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 12:49:16 PM
I think stating that there is no risk to tax payers is a bit deceiving
Go on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 24, 2017, 12:50:06 PM
I think stating that there is no risk to tax payers is a bit deceiving
TY!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 24, 2017, 01:30:32 PM
"The project will be fully financed by airport and airline revenues, not tax dollars."  Airport revenues = ticket surcharges.  https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2017/09/21/kci-single-terminal-edgemoor-advances.html

Tip for MCI opponents - bitch about the uncertain ticket surcharges (legitimate issue).  If $50 is going to be tacked onto every ticket, voters should be aware of this in before the vote.  But, unless the ballot languages requests approval of a tax, MCI will not be financed by a tax. 

   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 01:32:51 PM
"The project will be fully financed by airport and airline revenues, not tax dollars."  Airport revenues = ticket surcharges.  https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2017/09/21/kci-single-terminal-edgemoor-advances.html

Tip for MCI opponents - bitch about the uncertain ticket surcharges (legitimate issue).  If $50 is going to be tacked onto every ticket, voters should be aware of this in before the vote.  But, unless the ballot languages requests approval of a tax, MCI will not be financed by a tax. 

 
New terminals in other cities has not led to increase in ticket prices for those markets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 24, 2017, 02:02:14 PM
I feel like ticket prices are so volatile anyway it would be hard to know that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 02:09:48 PM
I feel like ticket prices are so volatile anyway it would be hard to know that
The data presented in 2016 from San Jose, Indy, Sacramento, and kci when cost per enplanned passenger goes up, it doesn't impact flight costs and still closely follows avg domestic airfare costs. Starts on page 19 in link below.  These fees are only 7% of airlines operating expenses explains why it doesn't impact customer costs.

http://flykci.com/media/1434/23feb16-airport-committee-air-service-plus-financing-plan.pdf


There has even been talk of expenses going down for airlines with a new terminal that could be much more energy efficient for example.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 24, 2017, 02:15:21 PM
the only potential for the taxpayer to be on the hook would be if somehow Edgemoor and it's bonding company failed, and the taxpayers had to fund completion.   But that's high, highly, HIGHLY unlikely.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2017, 02:19:56 PM
the only potential for the taxpayer to be on the hook would be if somehow Edgemoor and it's bonding company failed, and the taxpayers had to fund completion.   But that's high, highly, HIGHLY unlikely.

but not impossible and claiming no risk the the taxpayer is, as noted, disingenuous.  so, as usual, slyin is slyin in an effort to further his agenda

 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2017, 02:23:57 PM
pro new terminal business case:  in spite of reality, we anticipate passenger growth rates in order to make this business case float above the red
pro new terminal people:  we ignore reality that shows no growth through the last decade, passenger growth will happen and the business case assumptions are correct
facts:  passenger rate goes down YoY
pro new terminal people:  well passenger rate would have gone up if it weren't for this damn old terminal

lulz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 02:26:15 PM
the only potential for the taxpayer to be on the hook would be if somehow Edgemoor and it's bonding company failed, and the taxpayers had to fund completion.   But that's high, highly, HIGHLY unlikely.

but not impossible and claiming no risk the the taxpayer is, as noted, disingenuous.  so, as usual, slyin is slyin in an effort to further his agenda
Not accurate. Taxpayers would still not be on the hook. The airport authority would work with the city to issue airport bonds...still supported by airport revenues, not taxpayers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 02:36:06 PM


pro new terminal business case:  in spite of reality, we anticipate passenger growth rates in order to make this business case float above the red
pro new terminal people:  we ignore reality that shows no growth through the last decade, passenger growth will happen and the business case assumptions are correct
facts:  passenger rate goes down YoY
pro new terminal people:  well passenger rate would have gone up if it weren't for this damn old terminal

lulz

Not accurate. Kci passenger grew for 36+ months straight and assumption of growth is less than 2%... Below normal historic growth rate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 24, 2017, 02:38:38 PM

New terminals in other cities has not led to increase in ticket prices for those markets.

Well, the ticket prices will increase - that's how MCI is being financed - coupled with investment from the airlines. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 02:42:00 PM

New terminals in other cities has not led to increase in ticket prices for those markets.

Well, the ticket prices will increase - that's how MCI is being financed - coupled with investment from the airlines.
That line item will increase...yes. the total ticket costs still align with average flight prices across the country....our PFC (not finalized) should still be below US airport average
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 24, 2017, 02:46:55 PM

New terminals in other cities has not led to increase in ticket prices for those markets.

Well, the ticket prices will increase - that's how MCI is being financed - coupled with investment from the airlines.
That line item will increase...yes. the total ticket costs still align with average flight prices across the country....our PFC (not finalized) should still be below US airport average

This all may be true.  But I presume Edgemoor's private financier has projected what the ticket increases will have to be to make the financing work and it would make sense that this is information possessed by the City.  It would be alarming if this due diligence has not been done. 

I think this information should be made available.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 24, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
the only potential for the taxpayer to be on the hook would be if somehow Edgemoor and it's bonding company failed, and the taxpayers had to fund completion.   But that's high, highly, HIGHLY unlikely.

but not impossible and claiming no risk the the taxpayer is, as noted, disingenuous.  so, as usual, slyin is slyin in an effort to further his agenda

it's probably more likely a taxpayer gets killed by a great white shark than Edgemoor and it's bonding company going broke....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2017, 04:12:21 PM


pro new terminal business case:  in spite of reality, we anticipate passenger growth rates in order to make this business case float above the red
pro new terminal people:  we ignore reality that shows no growth through the last decade, passenger growth will happen and the business case assumptions are correct
facts:  passenger rate goes down YoY
pro new terminal people:  well passenger rate would have gone up if it weren't for this damn old terminal

lulz

Not accurate. Kci passenger grew for 36+ months straight and assumption of growth is less than 2%... Below normal historic growth rate

full
of
crap

how’s the past decade look?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2017, 04:21:25 PM


pro new terminal business case:  in spite of reality, we anticipate passenger growth rates in order to make this business case float above the red
pro new terminal people:  we ignore reality that shows no growth through the last decade, passenger growth will happen and the business case assumptions are correct
facts:  passenger rate goes down YoY
pro new terminal people:  well passenger rate would have gone up if it weren't for this damn old terminal

lulz

Not accurate. Kci passenger grew for 36+ months straight and assumption of growth is less than 2%... Below normal historic growth rate

full
of
crap

how’s the past decade look?

how does this year compare to last?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 06:23:03 PM


pro new terminal business case:  in spite of reality, we anticipate passenger growth rates in order to make this business case float above the red
pro new terminal people:  we ignore reality that shows no growth through the last decade, passenger growth will happen and the business case assumptions are correct
facts:  passenger rate goes down YoY
pro new terminal people:  well passenger rate would have gone up if it weren't for this damn old terminal

lulz

Not accurate. Kci passenger grew for 36+ months straight and assumption of growth is less than 2%... Below normal historic growth rate

full
of
crap

how’s the past decade look?

how does this year compare to last?

4.5% increase
http://www.flykci.com/media/1673/stats-2017-september.pdf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 24, 2017, 06:28:25 PM


pro new terminal business case:  in spite of reality, we anticipate passenger growth rates in order to make this business case float above the red
pro new terminal people:  we ignore reality that shows no growth through the last decade, passenger growth will happen and the business case assumptions are correct
facts:  passenger rate goes down YoY
pro new terminal people:  well passenger rate would have gone up if it weren't for this damn old terminal

lulz

Not accurate. Kci passenger grew for 36+ months straight and assumption of growth is less than 2%... Below normal historic growth rate

full
of
crap

how’s the past decade look?

KCI statistics page doesn't go back to 2007 but there is a presentation showing passenger levels since 1972-2014 here (page 33):

http://www.flykci.com/media/1434/23feb16-airport-committee-air-service-plus-financing-plan.pdf

Showing 2014 slightly above 2006 (below 2007/08 as we had the Midwest express hub then)

Since 2014 YoY
2015 +3% http://www.flykci.com/media/1428/stats-2015-dec.pdf
2016 +5.4% http://www.flykci.com/media/1583/stats-2016-december.pdf
2017 provided in post earlier.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 24, 2017, 06:30:07 PM
I can't wait to fly out of this new terminal. :woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 24, 2017, 09:01:23 PM
so i’m right, thanks for the confirmation
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on October 25, 2017, 09:00:32 AM
How's the new terminal progressing guys?  Looking pretty good here.  Can't wait!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2017, 09:41:07 AM
T's and P's tdaver that must be awful
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 25, 2017, 10:47:27 AM
Waldo is confirmed the worse area of KC I've ever lived.  :frown:

http://fox4kc.com/2017/10/24/woman-walking-in-waldo-neighborhood-shot-at-after-rejecting-man-who-wanted-phone-number/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2017, 10:51:40 AM
Quote
The victim told police she believes the car was a black Nissan or similar sedan model, with Chiefs flags flying from two windows on either side of the car.

smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 25, 2017, 10:53:33 AM
JFC

http://www.kctv5.com/story/36679388/man-dies-after-shooting-in-brookside#.WfCxTbJcMR4.facebook
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2017, 11:05:06 AM
Probably caught some punk stealing his fishing shoes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2017, 03:10:01 PM
Sounds like it was probably an execution
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 25, 2017, 03:18:41 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 25, 2017, 04:15:49 PM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/ClickHole/status/922857411240751104
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 25, 2017, 04:16:50 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article180878701.html

Quote
Kansas City’s full-court press earned it a place on several lists of the “most desperate stunts to woo Amazon.” Take a bow, KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 25, 2017, 04:30:59 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2017, 04:43:47 PM
Holy crap that brookside murder story is crazy if the rumors I was told are true....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on October 25, 2017, 04:47:42 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2017, 05:00:37 PM
A former defendant killed his lawyer?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 25, 2017, 05:04:05 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article180878701.html

Quote
Kansas City’s full-court press earned it a place on several lists of the “most desperate stunts to woo Amazon.” Take a bow, KC.
Lol, it's going to Austin, obvs.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2017, 05:05:05 PM
A former defendant killed his lawyer?

The murdered guy successfully defending a thief who was shot by business owner.  Business owner has to pay thief.  Business owner gets his "revenge" today.

Pretty sick if true.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2017, 05:06:35 PM
Did the business owner steal the thief's car before murdering the lawyer?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2017, 05:10:39 PM
Did the business owner steal the thief's car before murdering the lawyer?

 my info maybe way off....wasn't aware the car's owner was ID'd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on October 25, 2017, 05:15:17 PM
Sly's was the best. RIP, robber.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2017, 05:16:20 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/crime/kcmo-police-say-homeowner-shot-and-killed-in-front-yard

Quote
KCPD officers have found the white Chevrolet van the believed the suspect was driving with Missouri license plate 6FA 453. It was unoccupied.

DMV records show the van's license plates are registered to David Jungerman, the defendant in a civil lawsuit Pickert and his firm recently won.

The lawsuit was filed over a 2012 shooting. Two homeless men broke into Jungerman's business, believed to to have been trying to steal copper. A silent alarm went off and Jungerman went to the building armed with an AK-47. He shot both men.

One of the men, Jeffery Harris, sued Jungerman and won. Jungerman was ordered to pay $5.75 million.

According to court records, on Tuesday Jungerman was served with documents pertaining to the sale of his property to pay off the lawsuit debt.

 :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2017, 05:19:20 PM
What a gross piece of crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2017, 05:20:00 PM
Seems approps for the responsible gun owners thread if true.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2017, 05:20:10 PM
Oh, he was not the defendant's attorney
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2017, 05:20:59 PM
Seems approps for the responsible gun owners thread if true.
If you can't shoot people with an AK47 for stealing copper in America than I dont want to live in america
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2017, 05:29:16 PM
The dude seems like a real POS

https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/supreme-court/1996/78592-0.html
http://raytownonline.com/raytown-resident-david-g-jungerman-in-the-news-again/

https://thinkprogress.org/farmer-who-put-up-sign-claiming-democrats-are-party-of-parasites-has-taken-1-million-in-farm-e3253280d481/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2017, 05:30:06 PM
Gun people smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2017, 05:33:13 PM
rough ridin' sick person
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2017, 05:36:02 PM
Just goes to show you, we should really have anybody who makes huge highway signs on a watch list.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2017, 05:39:38 PM
I bet the KJKP, NJNP people are irl ok people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 25, 2017, 05:48:53 PM
I bet the KJKP, NJNP people are irl ok people

I wouldn't go try to steal one of their farm implements is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2017, 06:50:49 PM
Waldo is confirmed the worse area of KC I've ever lived.  :frown:

http://fox4kc.com/2017/10/25/lenexa-police-find-human-remains-inside-storage-unit/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 25, 2017, 07:04:05 PM
'Grats, lib. Thank god it wasn't at a house in the area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2017, 07:11:18 PM
check out mr serious over here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2017, 08:58:21 PM
Waldo is confirmed the worse area of KC I've ever lived.  :frown:

http://fox4kc.com/2017/10/25/lenexa-police-find-human-remains-inside-storage-unit/

A fledgling killer's first attempt at transformation
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2017, 09:54:24 PM
Waldo is confirmed the worse area of KC I've ever lived.  :frown:

http://fox4kc.com/2017/10/25/lenexa-police-find-human-remains-inside-storage-unit/

A fledgling killer's first attempt at transformation

oh wow nice pull gonna go watch that now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 25, 2017, 10:10:18 PM
Lock your doors over there tonight, fellas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 25, 2017, 10:34:52 PM
Giving mocat and lib real crime facts in the KCMO area really gets to them. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2017, 07:05:23 AM
Lock your doors over there tonight, fellas.
The  joco elitism trait is strong with this one. Glad you found your element wacky. Everyone deserves to be happy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 08:21:41 AM
It really is amazing how much safer I feel. It's great! :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2017, 08:43:41 AM
Giving mocat and lib real crime facts in the KCMO area really gets to them. :frown:

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 10:00:35 AM
Giving mocat and lib real crime facts in the KCMO area really gets to them. :frown:

 :confused:

Yeah, I dunno  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 10:04:05 AM
KS side is 10 times safer.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 10:10:04 AM
What does that have to do with silence of the lambs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 10:12:20 AM
I just worry about you guys over there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 10:16:21 AM
I worry about you too bud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2017, 10:53:25 AM
KS side is 10 times safer.  :dunno:
You are happy now with your neighborhood for now...leave it at that ...no reason to rub it in our faces that we can't afford to white flight outta here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 11:11:11 AM
KS side is 10 times safer.  :dunno:
You are happy now with your neighborhood for now...leave it at that ...no reason to rub it in our faces that we can't afford to white flight outta here.
So you don't like it when ppl try and act elite in this thread either? What a turn of events.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2017, 11:13:22 AM
KS side is 10 times safer.  :dunno:
You are happy now with your neighborhood for now...leave it at that ...no reason to rub it in our faces that we can't afford to white flight outta here.
So you don't like it when ppl try and act elite in this thread either? What a turn of events.
Youve made that all up in your head about me and I've already addressed it.  Go get your #fanningbrag on bud....I'm happy for you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 11:15:40 AM
Wackycat08, I think most of us are just confused about what triggered you last night and this morning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 11:21:40 AM
Triggered? All I said was waldo was by far thee worst area I've lived in, in KC. You, Phil, and Mocat always talk crap when I've said this in the past. I guess you could say I was trolling you guys a bit. I keep seeing all this crap that's going down over there and now I've never felt safer. It's just an assessment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 11:22:28 AM
So you're mad the troll didn't work?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 11:22:53 AM
Sure lib.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2017, 11:24:14 AM
Sure lib.  :facepalm:
What is going on?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on October 26, 2017, 11:26:28 AM
these days
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 11:31:14 AM
I don't think I've ever said much about waldo crime except that I personally don't feel unsafe. I also live a block from prairie village so maybe that helps  :dunno:

Like Phil said, you build these narratives in your mind that have no basis in fact
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2017, 11:31:54 AM
Triggered? All I said was waldo was by far thee worst area I've lived in, in KC. You, Phil, and Mocat always talk crap when I've said this in the past. I guess you could say I was trolling you guys a bit. I keep seeing all this crap that's going down over there and now I've never felt safer. It's just an assessment.

yeah you said crime facts "in the KCMO area" really gets to me, and i was v confused what led you to believe that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 11:35:13 AM
Because you're a Missouri apologist. You love the crap out of that state.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 26, 2017, 11:38:32 AM
I guess Chodecat Friday started a little early this week...

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2017, 11:51:58 AM
Because you're a Missouri apologist. You love the crap out of that state.
So until now I was unaware there is crime in kc?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 26, 2017, 12:20:26 PM
Some people appear to be a lot happier with their lives than others itt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 12:23:07 PM
Great stuff per usual, SDK
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
Somebody go take wackys shoes off his porch as a Halloween trick ...actually don't...I don't want him unhappy with his pleasantville
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2017, 12:35:01 PM
could we just all stop talking about crime for a minute? now that i know that it happens sometimes, it's really getting to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on October 26, 2017, 12:54:04 PM
Quote
Kansas City police are looking for the driver of a white 1997 Chevrolet van, which was discovered by police. No one was inside the vehicle at the time of it being discovered, according to police. The van witnesses say was speeding away from the murder was registered to David Jungerman. He lives in Raytown and was a defendant in a recent case the victim tried. Officers have spoken with Jungerman in person. Right now, they say he is not a suspect.

 :confused: I'm lost
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 12:57:01 PM
Yeah, I'm interested in how he was cleared so fast.

What a weird turn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on October 26, 2017, 12:59:35 PM
Must have a pretty good alibi.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 01:05:53 PM
Maybe his kid stole the old man's van?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2017, 01:27:59 PM
Whaaaa?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2017, 02:41:05 PM
Quote
The case that prompted the lawsuit was just one of four times Jungerman, 79, had been investigated for either shooting or detaining trespassers with a weapon in the past three decades.

In 1990, Jungerman was arrested for holding juveniles at gunpoint he found fishing in his pond. Just a month after the shooting of the homeless men at his business in 2012, Jungerman shot another inspected intruder. No charges were filed.

Then in 2016, Jungerman was charged with Armed Criminal Infraction and Felony Burglary for intimidating a tenant with a weapon for alleged offenses in Nevada, Mo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2017, 02:53:22 PM
good grief the trespassing was fishing in his pond? let's electrocute this SOB, and hold the water Percy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 26, 2017, 06:45:13 PM
good grief the trespassing was fishing in his pond? let's electrocute this SOB, and hold the water Percy
I understand the reference.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2017, 11:29:27 PM
I am over 100% sure that one of the posters in this thread is wearing wacky's sneaks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 11:30:53 PM
They couldn't afford them.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2017, 11:43:35 PM
They couldn't afford them.


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Weird post
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2017, 11:48:18 PM
It's not, but keep playing up Mocat stuff. Haven't slept in my own car ever. You ok?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2017, 12:00:24 AM
Chodecat is Donald these days. :frown: Will be praying for him tonight. :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on October 27, 2017, 05:35:19 AM
Looks like KC is a popular place to be murdered.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/62/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on October 27, 2017, 08:24:57 AM
i can't keep up with wackythings anymore
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2017, 08:28:20 AM
Mocat slept in his car at fattyfest. Couldn't get a hotel. Like he's almost 30 years old and still doing these things.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 27, 2017, 08:42:05 AM
i am v confused
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2017, 08:47:43 AM
i am v confused
What's new?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on October 27, 2017, 09:19:58 AM
Guys relax. It’s Friday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2017, 09:20:45 AM
 :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 27, 2017, 09:35:40 AM
like i just don't understand any of wacky's posts at all
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2017, 09:36:54 AM
That's ok mocat. Just move on with your life. It's #chodecatFriday, so you should be pumped. Have a great weekend!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on October 27, 2017, 10:24:52 AM
yeah i was very confused, just chalking it up to wackycat after dark
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2017, 10:40:23 AM
 :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 27, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
How about that airport guys? Voting 10 days away!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 27, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
i feel like we need a kc PAK to give everyone a chance to remember #1KAT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 28, 2017, 12:44:16 PM
From some of you all god

“Kansas City deserves the opportunity to grow and the airport prohibits growth,” said Kelly, chief executive and chairman of Southwest Airlines. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on October 28, 2017, 12:58:31 PM
I'm with you Phil. KC deserves a new airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2017, 10:59:54 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article181368331.html#storylink=mainstage

 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 01, 2017, 07:34:02 PM
https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/925883150768721920
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 02, 2017, 03:15:24 AM
it’s going to be a huge blowout win for the slyin crew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2017, 07:03:10 AM
it’s going to be a huge blowout win for the slyin crew
You mean for the KC regional economy....and really America.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2017, 09:39:36 AM
Southwest extended their reservation timeframe today and with that kci lost another direct flight from them.

Vote Yes Tuesday buds!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 02, 2017, 11:13:15 AM
Southwest extended their reservation timeframe today and with that kci lost another direct flight from them.

Vote Yes Tuesday buds!

what flight?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 02, 2017, 11:14:13 AM
Hey mikey, where's our whataburger?  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 02, 2017, 11:33:13 AM
Hey mikey, where's our whataburger?  :shakesfist:

#fakenews   Sad!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2017, 12:16:14 PM
Southwest extended their reservation timeframe today and with that kci lost another direct flight from them.

Vote Yes Tuesday buds!

what flight?
Pensacola
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 02, 2017, 01:36:02 PM
you’re running against yourself, hilarious
it’s really unbelievable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2017, 03:20:47 PM
you’re running against yourself, hilarious
it’s really unbelievable
It's not a hard thing to true up clams. Passenger count is going up with larger planes but our direct flight choices are going down....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 02, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
why would anyone want to go to Pensecola
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 02, 2017, 03:27:29 PM
I flew to Pensacola last year for a wedding in the gulf  :Rusty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 02, 2017, 03:31:12 PM
I flew to Pensacola last year for a wedding in the gulf  :Rusty:
My bros got a timeshare in Flora bama. I take that flight sometimes. Also, he got married there as well.  :Rusty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 02, 2017, 03:40:10 PM
The Pensacola airport is better than mci  :frown:

They actually have like breakfast options and stuff, I had some chik'n minis  :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on November 02, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
Those SWA directs to the 2nd tier Florida airports have always been seasonal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2017, 04:50:22 PM
Here is the no line kci on a Friday afternoon. Guys we can't replace this gem. Precheck flew right through just like every airport #blessed(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171103/097ddf4e357f322c89ebc206d001dd78.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on November 03, 2017, 05:31:39 PM
that's like 30 people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on November 03, 2017, 06:08:12 PM
Were KCI and Arrowhead designed by the same people? Both are very yuck city aesthetically.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2017, 07:43:34 PM
that's like 30 people
At least 70. With one scanner those people are in line for awhile.  This is also when there aren't many flights left out of kci.

This is the part that works well at kci. Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 03, 2017, 09:01:21 PM
Wow imagine if there were two flights leaving at the same time!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on November 04, 2017, 08:08:10 AM
Zero people in that picture in A-List.  Nice, easy A-List line.  Works for me.

I want a new airport too, but don't give me this crap about security being bad at KCI.  I was in that place every Monday morning for the last 2 years, and had zero problems.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2017, 08:25:24 AM
Zero people in that picture in A-List.  Nice, easy A-List line.  Works for me.

I want a new airport too, but don't give me this crap about security being bad at KCI.  I was in that place every Monday morning for the last 2 years, and had zero problems.
You are right it is the best thing about current kci. It just isn't zero lines like some who don't fly have claimed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2017, 08:27:23 AM
Length of lines is a stupid mf'ing talking point for anybody, pro or con new airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 05, 2017, 12:25:50 PM
I think how many choices of crap food at an airport I'm only in for 30 minutes at a time is even more dumb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2017, 12:29:08 PM
Look at all these haters coming out of the woodwork
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 05, 2017, 02:24:17 PM
I think how many choices of crap food at an airport I'm only in for 30 minutes at a time is even more dumb
Yes the argument about wanting to build a mall is the single dumbest. I understand people's concerns about long lines because of other centralized terminals they have been too....it's just not going to be a problem here and is a non factor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
I haven't watched it yet but I guess John Oliver had something about kc and amazon hq2 last night (kck maybe)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2017, 06:14:01 PM
voted yes x3  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on November 07, 2017, 06:17:48 PM
voted yes x3  :Woot:

@kriskobach
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2017, 06:20:20 PM
oops, i didn't get it, good joke bucket  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 07, 2017, 06:25:58 PM
Heard slyin on 610 talking about the vote, don't understand why clams hates this guy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on November 07, 2017, 06:33:44 PM
Heard slyin on 610 talking about the vote, don't understand why clams hates this guy.
Same. Part of me hopes Missouri effs this up and it comes to KS.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 07, 2017, 07:14:38 PM
voted yes x3  :Woot:
Did every part of kcmo have the same #2 and #3 questions?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2017, 07:24:55 PM
probably
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 07, 2017, 07:42:56 PM
there’s really no way this thing fails but if it were to, would be so lol
so yeah, fingers crossed that it fails horribly tonight but realistically knowing it won’t
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2017, 07:50:49 PM
there’s really no way this thing fails but if it were too, would be so lol
so yeah, fingers crossed that it fails horribly tonight but realistically knowing it won’t

you know how silly KCMO voters are, they are going to throw away the last good thing they have in Terminals B&C.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2017, 08:52:28 PM
I think somewhere in this thread i predicted 61% yes votes...I was way off.

https://twitter.com/st_vockrodt/status/928091108902625280

Glad this is over and we can move forward....now let's get feedback to Edgemoor and SOM to make sure we get the amenities we want at KCI. 

 :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2017, 08:56:12 PM
slyin'clams will still say it's against the will of the people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on November 07, 2017, 09:08:49 PM
This is great news for KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 07, 2017, 09:36:03 PM
slyin'clams will still say it's against the will of the people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 07, 2017, 09:40:38 PM
slyin'clams will still say it's against the will of the people
nothing about tonight says it isn’t, obvious that it was going to win today and I admitted that
had this been an election with people voting in it, the initiative would have failed miserably

and this “airports are economic engines” is such a load, but enjoy your win and congrats on not rough ridin' up so badly that you tripped over your own two feet and couldn’t get back up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 07, 2017, 09:43:45 PM
Can't wait for all of the construction bitching. Lived in Colorado when they got their new airport. It was about 3 years of madness by residence. 'Grats, tho!

Great plan by KC by pushing this vote on a year that nobody ever goes to the polls tho!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 07, 2017, 09:44:44 PM
Unless the agenda fits, of course!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 07, 2017, 10:08:35 PM
Amazing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 07, 2017, 10:11:48 PM
Definitely!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 07, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
You guys are lucky you get to vote on stuff like this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 07:18:01 AM
You guys are lucky you get to vote on stuff like this.

all 62,000 who cared enough to vote yesterday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 08, 2017, 07:22:12 AM
Should we have another vote?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 07:29:37 AM
Shouldn't have been voted on at all
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 08, 2017, 07:57:52 AM
Shouldn't have been voted on at all

Well duh but now that we had a vote, this one took place in the wrong year
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 08, 2017, 08:02:28 AM
It was about 3 years of madness by residence.
:D

Oh my
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 08, 2017, 08:50:19 AM
Mandate!


BTW, how the hell did Cass County only have one vote??
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 08, 2017, 08:51:39 AM
Because the ppl who don't or/and can't afford to fly don't care.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 08, 2017, 08:55:46 AM


BTW, how the hell did Cass County only have one vote??

They fly out of Fayetteville
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 09:02:00 AM
You guys are lucky you get to vote on stuff like this.
The next step for kci is to get it in a regional authority and get this out of KCMO only control. Gives all parts of the region a voice in this regional asset.

I don't know of any negative impact to KCMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 09:03:11 AM
You guys are lucky you get to vote on stuff like this.

all 62,000 who cared enough to vote yesterday
I'm all for getting more people to vote.  Send is all a ballot!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 09:10:49 AM
Mandate!


BTW, how the hell did Cass County only have one vote??

There is a very small portion of kcmo in cass county, looking at a map it looks like maybe under 10 residences
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 09:16:17 AM
Actually it's all churches and religious university
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 09:18:32 AM
Shouldn't have been voted on at all
pesky laws in the city you hate so much
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 09:23:31 AM
Shouldn't have been voted on at all

Well duh but now that we had a vote, this one took place in the wrong year

60k people voted.  I can’t imagine anyone being happy with that turnout but maybe for a special person like yourself that’s a good thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 08, 2017, 09:26:07 AM
That devious sly delayed the project until now on purpose???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 09:26:52 AM
Shouldn't have been voted on at all
pesky laws in the city you hate so much
It isn't a law. The only law is if airport bonds were going to be issued...they aren't in this agreement.

Council made a promise to put it up for a vote and did so...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 09:27:46 AM
Shouldn't have been voted on at all

Well duh but now that we had a vote, this one took place in the wrong year

60k people voted.  I can’t imagine anyone being happy with that turnout but maybe for a special person like yourself that’s a good thing
How can we get more people to vote? MO just keeps making it harder.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 08, 2017, 09:49:38 AM
No lines to wait and all the food you could ever want coming to you in 2021!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 09:50:14 AM
It's gonna be great ww
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 09:52:44 AM
Shouldn't have been voted on at all
pesky laws in the city you hate so much
It isn't a law. The only law is if airport bonds were going to be issued...they aren't in this agreement.

Council made a promise to put it up for a vote and did so...

can’t touch the airport w/o a vote
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 09:53:13 AM
It's gonna be great ww
Going to get so pak'd at Chili's!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 09:55:24 AM
Munch on some gates while waiting at the gate  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 09:56:11 AM
No lines to wait and all the food you could ever want coming to you in 2021!

hopefully our Swarovski store rivals detroit’s.  and the pga tour shop better be at least 2k sq feet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 09:57:11 AM
Munch on some gates while waiting at the gate  :love:
the mci arthur bryant’s was so good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 08, 2017, 09:58:29 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 08, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
Munch on some gates while waiting at the gate  :love:

would love to see the person scanning boarding passes at each Gate to yell "hi, may i help you" at every person boarding
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 08, 2017, 10:29:36 AM
This can be used to support both sides of the debate.

https://twitter.com/tullycorcoran/status/928099046077681664
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on November 08, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
tully is such a dork
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 10:59:53 AM
Munch on some gates while waiting at the gate  :love:

would love to see the person scanning boarding passes at each Gate to yell "hi, may i help you" at every person boarding

Love this idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 08, 2017, 11:05:54 AM
Can't wait to get that direct flight to Pensacola back in business again!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 08, 2017, 11:16:11 AM
I will give getting to FattyFest via flight to KC another shot whenever this thing's done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
pensacola is only the beginning.  and just wait until the a380s start lining up on our hallowed runways.
and the tie selection at mci’s jos a banks will be unparalleled.  the economic engine is firing up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 11:47:49 AM
Change is hard for some. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 08, 2017, 12:10:42 PM
Slyin's been on a pretty great run the last few years.  Streetcar, Convention Hotel, Streetcar Extension, and now a modern Airport.  Goodness gracious - it's almost a modern 21st Century City.   And all at a negligible cost for Kansas City residents!!




Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on November 08, 2017, 12:17:39 PM
Slyin's been on a pretty great run the last few years.  Streetcar, Convention Hotel, Streetcar Extension, and now a modern Airport.  Goodness gracious - it's almost a modern 21st Century City.   And all at a negligible cost for Kansas City residents!!

He really is good at mushing people with all his wins.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 12:34:03 PM
Will go down as one of the best. We're going to to be naming crap after him for a long time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 08, 2017, 12:51:52 PM
The Slyin Jamestown Massacre
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 01:06:29 PM
Slyin's been on a pretty great run the last few years.  Streetcar, Convention Hotel, Streetcar Extension, and now a modern Airport.  Goodness gracious - it's almost a modern 21st Century City.   And all at a negligible cost for Kansas City residents!!
GO bond is the least sexy but an equally huge thing long term.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
disagree - the convention hotel is by far his braggiest accomplishment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
Don't forget the 435 joco gateway construction  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 01:42:13 PM
disagree - the convention hotel is by far his braggiest accomplishment
ChodeLoews
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 08, 2017, 02:11:17 PM
disagree - the convention hotel is by far his braggiest accomplishment

It's definitely the largest feather in Dan Coffey's cap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 08, 2017, 02:11:24 PM
Will go down as one of the best. We're going to to be naming crap after him for a long time

I wonder what the first thing named after him will be? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 02:33:47 PM
Slyin' James Country Club Plaza
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 08, 2017, 03:06:05 PM
Will go down as one of the best. We're going to to be naming crap after him for a long time

I wonder what the first thing named after him will be?
Barnes still deserves something bigger named after her. Right now it's just the plaza in front of sprint.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 08, 2017, 06:48:59 PM
slyin will get a wing named after him in potosi
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 08, 2017, 06:51:42 PM
Slyin's reviews on Amazon are about to get 1 star'd like a mofo when that construction job goes to crap and he losses the bid. :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 06:59:49 PM
wackycat08:amazing new airport::dax:chiefs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 08, 2017, 07:00:57 PM
Weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 07:02:33 PM
quite
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 08, 2017, 07:03:54 PM
Lib, toke a lil more and relax, it's Wednesday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2017, 07:04:32 PM
sorry for triggering you  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 08, 2017, 07:06:53 PM
I have no idea why you are. You just became a KC'r in the last year, got a new airport you barely use, and are mad K-State is making a movement to unite ppl, because your racists takes might be less funny. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on November 08, 2017, 11:53:18 PM
Things I want in this new MCI:

Chick Fil A
Dunkin Donuts
Gates BBQ
A decent frozen yogurt place with good toppings
Au Bon Pain
Popeyes
Goodcents (dare to dream...it will be a Subway tho)
Bo Lings





Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2017, 12:02:07 AM
Things I want in this new MCI:

Chick Fil A
Dunkin Donuts
Gates BBQ
A decent frozen yogurt place with good toppings
Au Bon Pain
Popeyes
Goodcents (dare to dream...it will be a Subway tho)
Bo Lings

 :clap:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 09, 2017, 06:54:16 AM
Goodcents needs to like triple their metro presence
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 09, 2017, 07:15:53 AM
I miss Goodcents :(
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2017, 07:34:36 AM
Tbh goodcents is kinda barf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 09, 2017, 08:12:34 AM
Goodcents is the best sub place in the city. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2017, 08:34:29 AM
wait, people actually like Gates or just want it to freak out out of town travelers in an airport setting?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2017, 08:35:24 AM
Gates is great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 08:35:32 AM
wait, people actually like Gates or just want it to freak out out of town travelers in an airport setting?
Gates is good. Outposts gates like after an airport would most likely be barf.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2017, 08:38:02 AM
i don't want to turn this into another bbq thread, so i accept that we have differing opinions, it's what makes America great!  good day!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 09, 2017, 09:06:52 AM
I wonder why any those places didn’t try to open at our current mci?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 09:09:38 AM
I wonder why any those places didn’t try to open at our current mci?
Ain't no space.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 09, 2017, 09:13:27 AM
That'd be fantastic if a local bbq place set up shop at the airport, presuming it would be as good as their non-airport branches.  In situations where I'd be flying to or from KC without having leisure time in KC to go bbq-eat'n, I'd hit that every time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 09, 2017, 09:18:16 AM
That'd be fantastic if a local bbq place set up shop at the airport, presuming it would be as good as their non-airport branches.  In situations where I'd be flying to or from KC without having leisure time in KC to go bbq-eat'n, I'd hit that every time.

sounds like you crave the flavors of one Famous Dave's BBQ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 09, 2017, 09:46:02 AM
I wonder why any those places didn’t try to open at our current mci?
Ain't no space.

lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 09, 2017, 10:34:25 AM
Things I want in this new MCI:

Chick Fil A
Dunkin Donuts
Gates BBQ
A decent frozen yogurt place with good toppings
Au Bon Pain
Popeyes
Goodcents (dare to dream...it will be a Subway tho)
Bo Lings

I support a new MCI to improve routes, but places to eat as a local are far from my list of interests.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: AppleJack on November 09, 2017, 10:55:42 AM
Goodcents has the best cookies in this hemisphere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 09, 2017, 12:46:07 PM
I used to eat goodcents about 3-4 times a week and absolutely love it to this day but it's maybe like 1 time every 2-3 weeks now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 09, 2017, 01:13:51 PM
Well g d it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 01:26:41 PM
What's our next big thing now that we are over the KCI hump? Getting the Broadway bridge / north loop figured out is big, obviously one more streetcar southern extension vote but since vote #1 passed by so much that seems like a gonna happen thing, getting the umkc music campus downtown funded is kinda big...

What else?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 09, 2017, 02:10:09 PM
What's our next big thing now that we are over the KCI hump? Getting the Broadway bridge / north loop figured out is big, obviously one more streetcar southern extension vote but since vote #1 passed by so much that seems like a gonna happen thing, getting the umkc music campus downtown funded is kinda big...

What else?

Amazon HQ2 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2017, 02:26:09 PM
North loop is many years down the road but it will be great when it happens
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 02:35:28 PM
North loop is many years down the road but it will be great when it happens
Yes but what we do with the buck bridge will be key in that and the buck bridge decision is short term.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: SdK on November 09, 2017, 03:11:39 PM
Surprisingly that E-670 bottleneck is never THAT bad, I'd prefer it was two lanes going east.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2017, 03:30:26 PM
What's our next big thing now that we are over the KCI hump? Getting the Broadway bridge / north loop figured out is big, obviously one more streetcar southern extension vote but since vote #1 passed by so much that seems like a gonna happen thing, getting the umkc music campus downtown funded is kinda big...

What else?

Amazon HQ2


I vote this. I wish Skelator Brownback and his brood had saved the gift of zero taxes and local economy crippling incentives for Amazon instead of wasting it on NASCAR and chain stores. 

I’d move from Joco to Mizzou and drive over and work at Amazon.  Maybe Parkville.  Get a nice cozy systems management gig.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 09:31:29 PM
Oh man wacky would be livid rn

https://twitter.com/RudyKCTV5/status/928776150725414912
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 09, 2017, 09:49:59 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 09, 2017, 09:55:48 PM
Oh man wacky would be livid rn

https://twitter.com/RudyKCTV5/status/928776150725414912
why? The quaffs are creeps. Saw them 2 weeks ago. Not sure I could take part in banging the neighbors and looking my wife in the face. Happy for Antoney tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 09:59:04 PM
Oh man wacky would be livid rn

https://twitter.com/RudyKCTV5/status/928776150725414912
why? The quaffs are creeps. Saw them 2 weeks ago. Not sure I could take part in banging the neighbors and looking my wife in the face. Happy for Antoney tho.
Wowowow not sure what you are diving into...I was talking the commercial filming beside quaff....from how you described your place I thought that was right in front of the building you lived in.

But dish more on the quaff rant.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 09, 2017, 10:04:50 PM
Anthoney swings. Him and his wife. Don't care for being an extra. I'm still surprised that place is open. They're the last of the leftovers from the mob squad. He's kinda a crap bag.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 10:09:55 PM
Anthoney swings. Him and his wife. Don't care for being an extra. I'm still surprised that place is open. They're the last of the leftovers from the mob squab. He's kinda a crap bag.
Lol.

Yeah just talking about that commercial shining lights into that building. You complained about things happening in front of quaff in the past so thought that commercial would have triggered you if you still lived downtown.

Feel like i shouldn't have to explain this much....weird trigger I hit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 09, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
Nah. We're good. Just love my wife and things got really weird at the end there. They all were going out of their way to try and bang her. It got kinda weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 10:13:23 PM
Wait let me try to unpack this....you just saw them a couple weeks ago...now called them shitbags and creeps, outing him being in the lifestyle and don't think you could be an extra.

What did Anthony ask of you and the Mrs. wacky? Do I need to go have a talk with him on what's appropriate to ask of customers?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 10:14:02 PM
Wait let me try to unpack this....you just saw them a couple weeks ago...now called them shitbags and creeps, outing him being in the lifestyle and don't think you could be an extra.

What did Anthony ask of you and the Mrs. wacky? Do I need to go have a talk with him on what's appropriate to ask of customers?
Holy crap I nailed it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 09, 2017, 10:18:58 PM
Anthoney lives a white rock lifestyle. We were downtown for the KU-MU game and he wasn't there. Fair of course. It was a Sunday. Anthoney was kind enough to break open champagne for our engagement, so he's fine, but I still think he's fake AF, living there for 3 years and getting to know him.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 09, 2017, 10:22:28 PM
Wait let me try to unpack this....you just saw them a couple weeks ago...now called them shitbags and creeps, outing him being in the lifestyle and don't think you could be an extra.

What did Anthony ask of you and the Mrs. wacky? Do I need to go have a talk with him on what's appropriate to ask of customers?
Holy crap I nailed it.
Yeah man, case closed!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 10:23:51 PM
Anthoney lives a white rock lifestyle. We were downtown for the KU-MU game and he wasn't there. Fair of course. It was a Sunday. Anthoney was kind enough to break open champagne for our engagement, so he's fine, but I still think he's fake AF, living there for 3 years and getting to know him.
Now I feel bad I've never been invited to his little party. Not that Im into it but I'd like the invite!

Anyways....wouldn't those lights on the sidewalk made you mad or is that not the building you used to live in?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 09, 2017, 10:26:38 PM
I've stated many times that's the only reason we don't live downtown now. Quaff trash on a random Monday.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 10:28:29 PM
I've stated many times that's the only reason we don't live downtown now. Quaff trash on a random Monday.


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Cheers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 09, 2017, 10:29:42 PM
 :cheers: I don't lie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 09, 2017, 10:32:41 PM
I’m not sure what I just walked into...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 10:34:37 PM
I'm still attempting to figure it out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 09, 2017, 10:35:39 PM
:cheers: I don't lie
I believe you bud.  I just didn't expect that from a Gatorade commercial tweet!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 09, 2017, 10:38:27 PM
Lol. Been holding back. Happy for them either way. It was a safe space for me for years, but I'm not sure he's the kind of guy you would want to run with, other than selling cheap booze.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on November 10, 2017, 08:53:09 AM
My understanding of JoCo is that Nick and Jake's is your swinger base camp now, Wacky.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2017, 08:58:15 AM
Thanks for the tip. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2017, 09:01:16 AM
I am a lil jelly they're filming that commercial on our old place. At least we can point it out in social settings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2017, 10:28:39 AM
Wacky why did a comment about your old neighborhood being noisy trigger you so hard about a completely unrelated thing?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2017, 10:37:41 AM
Quaff is related. Been salty with them for awhile. Why do you care?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on November 10, 2017, 10:40:19 AM
I thought it was a touch savage to out an adult for his/their private sexual hobbies, tbh...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 10, 2017, 10:44:23 AM
It is interesting they chose our old place. Left window was our spot. :eye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 10, 2017, 11:43:37 AM
I thought it was a touch savage to out an adult for his/their private sexual hobbies, tbh...

yeah, I mean anyone could google them and see how large her nose is.    oh, wait...     :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 10, 2017, 04:26:47 PM
Someone smarter than me is going to have to explain how the F that old piece of crap guy is not a suspect in the brookside murder. His physical appearance and van both match witness descriptions from the crime scene, not to mention the enormous obvious motive, and also his extensive history of shooting people. I am completely perplexed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on November 10, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
This question is open to anyone who logs into this blog
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on November 11, 2017, 09:05:31 AM
Someone smarter than me is going to have to explain how the F that old piece of crap guy is not a suspect in the brookside murder. His physical appearance and van both match witness descriptions from the crime scene, not to mention the enormous obvious motive, and also his extensive history of shooting people. I am completely perplexed
maybe it's the old guys heir?  They are the one hurt most by the judgement
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2017, 09:53:04 AM
Someone smarter than me is going to have to explain how the F that old piece of crap guy is not a suspect in the brookside murder. His physical appearance and van both match witness descriptions from the crime scene, not to mention the enormous obvious motive, and also his extensive history of shooting people. I am completely perplexed
He must have done Rock solid alibi? I'm assuming he had a friend do it if so.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 11, 2017, 11:13:57 AM
Super stud jolie justus came to my neighborhood assoc meeting this morning. Ama
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2017, 01:30:44 PM
Super stud jolie justus came to my neighborhood assoc meeting this morning. Ama
She is my #1 mayoral candidate rn but Quinton Lucas is coming on strong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 13, 2017, 09:43:30 AM
Someone smarter than me is going to have to explain how the F that old piece of crap guy is not a suspect in the brookside murder. His physical appearance and van both match witness descriptions from the crime scene, not to mention the enormous obvious motive, and also his extensive history of shooting people. I am completely perplexed

From another forum I visit

Quote
Van owner not a suspect in Brookside death. But people ‘look at me like I’m a murderer’
David Pungerman cleared of suspicion in Murder of Atty Tom Pickert.

My brief opinion:

The KCPD did not confirm or deny that the tags on a white van belonged to Jungerman. News media on the site said they were looking for a white van with a missing rear window. No mention of tag numbers.
In a warrant to recover a white van, that was linked to the shooting by association, was a van owned by David Jungerman a multi-millionaire who had lost a legal battle in which a run away tort lawyer (Tom Pickert) somehow received a judgment of $5.75M from a jury.
How did the police associate the van with the tag numbers? Pickert's partners? How did the tag numbers get posted on KCPD's Twitter account and later associated to Jungerman by someone other than KCPD? KC news outlets? Did Pickert's office leak this info to a local attorney who then posted it or did they give it out to the news media too?
The Atty (Robert Flynn) did in fact post Jungerman's name as owning the vehicle the police were interested in finding along with his addressees, age, and other vehicles tag numbers. All this after the KCPD had found the van. He also posted information that has still not been collaborated such as a gray haired man in "a black hoodie" being seen with van. (see witness statements below) The action by Flynn places more than insinuating information about Jungerman's involvement with the murder. I downright makes him look as it he is running from the police. KMBC, KCTV5, FOX4 and HSHB41 all picked some on parts of it up and ran with it as fact.


This is the tweet from Robert Flynn, someone who is known to have legal connections to Pickert:
The Flynn Law Firm @theflynnlawfirm
Suspect's vehicle is registered to David G. Jungerman, white male, 79, of
6000 Elm Ave., Raytown, MO 64133 &
1719 W. 9th St. KCMO 64101 https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/923217009223110657 …
2:53 PM - Oct 25, 2017

KCMO PD posted this within the hour of the murder without a source (see warrant application) This had to come from the Pickert law firm. Who else would suspect Jungerman and know to cross reference him with a white van?

@kcpolice Suspect vehicle in homicide in 200 blk W 66th Terr this morning: white 97 Chevy van, MO plates 6FA453. Unknown race male driver. (1/2)
If you see this vehicle, call 911. Do not approach it. (2/2)
8:57 AM - 25 Oct 2017[/COLOR]
Kansas City Police?Verified account
@kcpolice UPDATE: This vehicle has been located unoccupied. Thank you for your assistance.
Oct 25

Later that day the van located..(before 2:53) as Flynn's comment appear after the van was located on KCPD twitter time line

The Flynn Law Firm? Oct 25
@theflynnlawfirm Suspect's vehicle is registered to David G. Jungerman, white male, 79, of 6000 Elm Ave., Raytown, MO 64133 & 1719 W. 9th St. KCMO 64101

Followed by these 2 tweets from Flynn: @theflynnlawfirm
Owner of the suspect vehicle, David Jungerman, also owns this SUV: 2003 Isuzu Axiom XS, MO plate # YJ4X7M
@theflynnlawfirm
Neighbor reported seeing suspicious man in area, before the murder, fitting description of David Jungerman *wearing black hoodie*

I am not going to go into how all of this became fact to so many of the news outlets. YES!, YES!, I AM!
The News (All formats) started bombarding the airways about what a bad person Jungerman was and suddenly, a slimeball (not Pickert all in general)
"personal injury" lawyer became a "prominent, well respected Attorney"

The News began publishing false information as fact. Publishing hearsay information, staking out his home all on the false lead that the vans tags were actually witnessed at the crime scene. (see warrant request) If the van bearing the Jungermans tags would have been seen at or near the crime scene that would have been a strong notation in the warrant request? It wasn't mentioned at by either eye witness.

I wonder who could get access to the tag number of the vehicles that Jungerman owned owned within an hour? Yes, the lawyers in Pickerts firm gave the info to police, maybe the same person who posted that Jungerman was spotted at the scene??? I would say that the information regarding Jungerman's vehicles and him being spotted there may have come from the same source. Picket's wife had no way of knowing what Jungerman drove and and yet Jungerman was tied to the murder by association within minutes. I would have to again link Pickert's partner (Fowler) as being the source of the info. I think he would be the one to link Jungerman to the crime. Emily (wife) may have had that conclusion, as she is a smart woman, but I'm with Fowler. I think I would tell my wife about the guy I just won $6M from but not what cars he owned.

Needless to say the press goes for everything it can on Junglerman while he is voluntarily answering questions for police without their knowledge. The news is not getting anything from KCPD! They report it as he was arrested or took in for questioning and released. Once again portraying him as a Murderer but not one the POPO have the goods on.

Here are a few tidbits of reports on local TV and newspapers that needed a little clarification:

Emily Rittman KCTV5 ?@EmilyRittman
Two witnesses say they saw David Jungerman's van outside of Tom Pickert's house the day he was killed @KCTV5 10
9:51 PM - Nov 1, 2017 See the warrant application (WA) as it say's no such thing. ****ing LIE!

One TV station stated that police had searched Jungerman's home NEVER HAPPENED! The police never asked for a warrant to search it. Per the KC Star:Two of Jungerman’s immediate neighbors said on Nov. 3 — more than a week after the shooting — that police never spoke with them and never asked them if they saw Jungerman the day of the shooting.

FOX4KC reported: A white van was seen leaving the crime scene and is registered to a man named David Jungerman. FOX 4's Dave D'Marko was reporting near Jungerman's home in Raytown late on Wednesday night when the van was recovered and towed away from the scene.

The warrant was granted at 11:03 PM at least 10 hours after it was located. Police had no grounds for a search warrant. The WA made it look like Jungerman had threatened Pickert in court and at 11PM the judge did not confirm it as proof. Jungerman may have an illegal search and seizure case.

FOX41KC stated: "Police have not said if they believe Jungerman was driving the van tor if it was someone else who was driving Jungerman's van. Investigators said the van was unoccupied when they found it."

Does this van look like it was just pulled from a pond?




KSHB TV41 news reported live that Jungermans van "had been pulled from a pond" on Jungermans property while FOX4 said it was at a neighbor's home, an employee, located on the same pond/lake.
TV41: "Police say David Jungerman owns the van and also fits the witness’s description."
In the first 20 seconds you will hear about the van pulled from the pond.

FOX4:"A white van was seen leaving the crime scene and is registered to a man named David Jungerman. FOX 4's Dave D'Marko was reporting near Jungerman's home in Raytown late on Wednesday night when the van was recovered and towed away from the scene." They found it 8-10 hours earlier!

TV41: "Police recovered the vehicle at a home in Raytown, where a man named Leo Wynne lives, in the same neighborhood as Jungerman’s home."

Jim Fitzpatrick, (Jimmy C) retired editor from the KC Star wrote in his blog titled: Search warrant points decidedly toward David Jungerman in the Thomas Pickert murder.

He doesn't even know where Jungerman's house is as he refers to it as a vacant lot.
This is his home, the house where the han was found is to the left and the house accross the lake is Jungerman's (note the van in driveway)



In another blog post : Likely suspect in murder of young lawyer in Brookside: Right-wing, gun-totin’ head case
JimmyC infurs Jungerman's guilt stating "This murder — again as most of you know by now — was not random." Followed by "A 1997 Chevy van is registered to him was found this afternoon, but as of this writing Jungerman had not been found.
My wife Patty believes he is dead by now, having committed suicide. Patty’s instincts are good, and I think she’s probably on target."
Closing the article JimmyC said "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case: Right-wing, f***in’ nut job."

In another article, JimmyC says "First, although police have not named a suspect, they have one. And guess who it is? Why, you’re right. It’s 79-year-old David Jungerman, whom police questioned the day after the slaying and whose 1997 Chevy van — with plates registered to him — they went looking for immediately after Pickert, 39, was shot at close range on his front porch in Brookside."

As you can see, Jungerman was fried by the TV stations, with some flimsy evidence.

This is some information from the warrant application:

At 11:03 p.m. Oct. 25 — 15 hours after the murder — KCPD Det. Bonita Cannon filed a warrant application to search a white 1997 Chevrolet Express — its license number listed in the warrant application — believed to be owned by Jungerman. Detective Cannon wrote that the van was thought to be located on the premises of a home in the 9200 block of East 60th Terrace in Raytown.

Police took statements from two people at or near the murder scene. (The warrant does not identify either by name.)

“Witness #1 stated he observed a white van, with no windows on the driver side other than driver door, east on 67th Street, turn north on Linden (Road)…He stated the vehicle was parked for a few minutes, saw an older, gray haired, white male standing near the back side of the van, before getting into the driver’s seat. The older white male drove west on 66th Terrace and park (stet) ahead of a blue truck, on the north side of the street on 66th Terrace, across from the dispatch address.”

“Witness #2 (apparently Pickert’s wife, Emily Riegel) stated she was inside the residence at the dispatched address when she heard a loud noise. When she looked out the window, she observed the victim standing on the sidewalk in front of the residence, talking on his cell phone. She asked if he knew what the sound was, he replied, “No.” Witness #2 stated she told the victim to come inside of the house, as she moved back into the bedroom. Witness #2 stated she heard a second loud noise. When she looked back out the window, she could no longer see the victim but did observe a white snub nosed van, on the north side of the street on 66th Terrace, facing west bound with no windows on (the) side, leaving the scene westbound on West 66th Terrace. She believed the vehicle then went north on either Wornall Road or Brookside Road.”

How you get a warrant for his van with that info. is why they fabricated the threats of bodily harm into the warrant request. KCPD SLIMEBALLS.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2017, 09:57:39 AM
That's a beating to try reading
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on November 13, 2017, 10:16:26 AM
Yeah, really. What kind of forum is this that you frequent?

I have a hard time believing someone would type out that manifesto unless she had a personal stake with one of the principals.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2017, 10:48:25 AM
Someone smarter than me is going to have to explain how the F that old piece of crap guy is not a suspect in the brookside murder. His physical appearance and van both match witness descriptions from the crime scene, not to mention the enormous obvious motive, and also his extensive history of shooting people. I am completely perplexed

From another forum I visit

Quote
Van owner not a suspect in Brookside death. But people ‘look at me like I’m a murderer’
David Pungerman cleared of suspicion in Murder of Atty Tom Pickert.

My brief opinion:

The KCPD did not confirm or deny that the tags on a white van belonged to Jungerman. News media on the site said they were looking for a white van with a missing rear window. No mention of tag numbers.
In a warrant to recover a white van, that was linked to the shooting by association, was a van owned by David Jungerman a multi-millionaire who had lost a legal battle in which a run away tort lawyer (Tom Pickert) somehow received a judgment of $5.75M from a jury.
How did the police associate the van with the tag numbers? Pickert's partners? How did the tag numbers get posted on KCPD's Twitter account and later associated to Jungerman by someone other than KCPD? KC news outlets? Did Pickert's office leak this info to a local attorney who then posted it or did they give it out to the news media too?
The Atty (Robert Flynn) did in fact post Jungerman's name as owning the vehicle the police were interested in finding along with his addressees, age, and other vehicles tag numbers. All this after the KCPD had found the van. He also posted information that has still not been collaborated such as a gray haired man in "a black hoodie" being seen with van. (see witness statements below) The action by Flynn places more than insinuating information about Jungerman's involvement with the murder. I downright makes him look as it he is running from the police. KMBC, KCTV5, FOX4 and HSHB41 all picked some on parts of it up and ran with it as fact.


This is the tweet from Robert Flynn, someone who is known to have legal connections to Pickert:
The Flynn Law Firm @theflynnlawfirm
Suspect's vehicle is registered to David G. Jungerman, white male, 79, of
6000 Elm Ave., Raytown, MO 64133 &
1719 W. 9th St. KCMO 64101 https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/923217009223110657 …
2:53 PM - Oct 25, 2017

KCMO PD posted this within the hour of the murder without a source (see warrant application) This had to come from the Pickert law firm. Who else would suspect Jungerman and know to cross reference him with a white van?

@kcpolice Suspect vehicle in homicide in 200 blk W 66th Terr this morning: white 97 Chevy van, MO plates 6FA453. Unknown race male driver. (1/2)
If you see this vehicle, call 911. Do not approach it. (2/2)
8:57 AM - 25 Oct 2017[/COLOR]
Kansas City Police?Verified account
@kcpolice UPDATE: This vehicle has been located unoccupied. Thank you for your assistance.
Oct 25

Later that day the van located..(before 2:53) as Flynn's comment appear after the van was located on KCPD twitter time line

The Flynn Law Firm? Oct 25
@theflynnlawfirm Suspect's vehicle is registered to David G. Jungerman, white male, 79, of 6000 Elm Ave., Raytown, MO 64133 & 1719 W. 9th St. KCMO 64101

Followed by these 2 tweets from Flynn: @theflynnlawfirm
Owner of the suspect vehicle, David Jungerman, also owns this SUV: 2003 Isuzu Axiom XS, MO plate # YJ4X7M
@theflynnlawfirm
Neighbor reported seeing suspicious man in area, before the murder, fitting description of David Jungerman *wearing black hoodie*

I am not going to go into how all of this became fact to so many of the news outlets. YES!, YES!, I AM!
The News (All formats) started bombarding the airways about what a bad person Jungerman was and suddenly, a slimeball (not Pickert all in general)
"personal injury" lawyer became a "prominent, well respected Attorney"

The News began publishing false information as fact. Publishing hearsay information, staking out his home all on the false lead that the vans tags were actually witnessed at the crime scene. (see warrant request) If the van bearing the Jungermans tags would have been seen at or near the crime scene that would have been a strong notation in the warrant request? It wasn't mentioned at by either eye witness.

I wonder who could get access to the tag number of the vehicles that Jungerman owned owned within an hour? Yes, the lawyers in Pickerts firm gave the info to police, maybe the same person who posted that Jungerman was spotted at the scene??? I would say that the information regarding Jungerman's vehicles and him being spotted there may have come from the same source. Picket's wife had no way of knowing what Jungerman drove and and yet Jungerman was tied to the murder by association within minutes. I would have to again link Pickert's partner (Fowler) as being the source of the info. I think he would be the one to link Jungerman to the crime. Emily (wife) may have had that conclusion, as she is a smart woman, but I'm with Fowler. I think I would tell my wife about the guy I just won $6M from but not what cars he owned.

Needless to say the press goes for everything it can on Junglerman while he is voluntarily answering questions for police without their knowledge. The news is not getting anything from KCPD! They report it as he was arrested or took in for questioning and released. Once again portraying him as a Murderer but not one the POPO have the goods on.

Here are a few tidbits of reports on local TV and newspapers that needed a little clarification:

Emily Rittman KCTV5 ?@EmilyRittman
Two witnesses say they saw David Jungerman's van outside of Tom Pickert's house the day he was killed @KCTV5 10
9:51 PM - Nov 1, 2017 See the warrant application (WA) as it say's no such thing. ****ing LIE!

One TV station stated that police had searched Jungerman's home NEVER HAPPENED! The police never asked for a warrant to search it. Per the KC Star:Two of Jungerman’s immediate neighbors said on Nov. 3 — more than a week after the shooting — that police never spoke with them and never asked them if they saw Jungerman the day of the shooting.

FOX4KC reported: A white van was seen leaving the crime scene and is registered to a man named David Jungerman. FOX 4's Dave D'Marko was reporting near Jungerman's home in Raytown late on Wednesday night when the van was recovered and towed away from the scene.

The warrant was granted at 11:03 PM at least 10 hours after it was located. Police had no grounds for a search warrant. The WA made it look like Jungerman had threatened Pickert in court and at 11PM the judge did not confirm it as proof. Jungerman may have an illegal search and seizure case.

FOX41KC stated: "Police have not said if they believe Jungerman was driving the van tor if it was someone else who was driving Jungerman's van. Investigators said the van was unoccupied when they found it."

Does this van look like it was just pulled from a pond?




KSHB TV41 news reported live that Jungermans van "had been pulled from a pond" on Jungermans property while FOX4 said it was at a neighbor's home, an employee, located on the same pond/lake.
TV41: "Police say David Jungerman owns the van and also fits the witness’s description."
In the first 20 seconds you will hear about the van pulled from the pond.

FOX4:"A white van was seen leaving the crime scene and is registered to a man named David Jungerman. FOX 4's Dave D'Marko was reporting near Jungerman's home in Raytown late on Wednesday night when the van was recovered and towed away from the scene." They found it 8-10 hours earlier!

TV41: "Police recovered the vehicle at a home in Raytown, where a man named Leo Wynne lives, in the same neighborhood as Jungerman’s home."

Jim Fitzpatrick, (Jimmy C) retired editor from the KC Star wrote in his blog titled: Search warrant points decidedly toward David Jungerman in the Thomas Pickert murder.

He doesn't even know where Jungerman's house is as he refers to it as a vacant lot.
This is his home, the house where the han was found is to the left and the house accross the lake is Jungerman's (note the van in driveway)



In another blog post : Likely suspect in murder of young lawyer in Brookside: Right-wing, gun-totin’ head case
JimmyC infurs Jungerman's guilt stating "This murder — again as most of you know by now — was not random." Followed by "A 1997 Chevy van is registered to him was found this afternoon, but as of this writing Jungerman had not been found.
My wife Patty believes he is dead by now, having committed suicide. Patty’s instincts are good, and I think she’s probably on target."
Closing the article JimmyC said "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case: Right-wing, f***in’ nut job."

In another article, JimmyC says "First, although police have not named a suspect, they have one. And guess who it is? Why, you’re right. It’s 79-year-old David Jungerman, whom police questioned the day after the slaying and whose 1997 Chevy van — with plates registered to him — they went looking for immediately after Pickert, 39, was shot at close range on his front porch in Brookside."

As you can see, Jungerman was fried by the TV stations, with some flimsy evidence.

This is some information from the warrant application:

At 11:03 p.m. Oct. 25 — 15 hours after the murder — KCPD Det. Bonita Cannon filed a warrant application to search a white 1997 Chevrolet Express — its license number listed in the warrant application — believed to be owned by Jungerman. Detective Cannon wrote that the van was thought to be located on the premises of a home in the 9200 block of East 60th Terrace in Raytown.

Police took statements from two people at or near the murder scene. (The warrant does not identify either by name.)

“Witness #1 stated he observed a white van, with no windows on the driver side other than driver door, east on 67th Street, turn north on Linden (Road)…He stated the vehicle was parked for a few minutes, saw an older, gray haired, white male standing near the back side of the van, before getting into the driver’s seat. The older white male drove west on 66th Terrace and park (stet) ahead of a blue truck, on the north side of the street on 66th Terrace, across from the dispatch address.”

“Witness #2 (apparently Pickert’s wife, Emily Riegel) stated she was inside the residence at the dispatched address when she heard a loud noise. When she looked out the window, she observed the victim standing on the sidewalk in front of the residence, talking on his cell phone. She asked if he knew what the sound was, he replied, “No.” Witness #2 stated she told the victim to come inside of the house, as she moved back into the bedroom. Witness #2 stated she heard a second loud noise. When she looked back out the window, she could no longer see the victim but did observe a white snub nosed van, on the north side of the street on 66th Terrace, facing west bound with no windows on (the) side, leaving the scene westbound on West 66th Terrace. She believed the vehicle then went north on either Wornall Road or Brookside Road.”

How you get a warrant for his van with that info. is why they fabricated the threats of bodily harm into the warrant request. KCPD SLIMEBALLS.
Someone on Reddit said their friends wife saw the van and license plate number and gave to PD. Dunno
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 13, 2017, 12:20:17 PM
Yeah, really. What kind of forum is this that you frequent?

I have a hard time believing someone would type out that manifesto unless she had a personal stake with one of the principals.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

it's a Chiefs mb.    The post (which loses formatting when cut and pasted that made it a little easier to read) was a mix of article, tweets, and original posting.

it seems (if the above is accurate) that the PD maybe overstepped in trying to pin it on Jungerman.   Lucky (?) for him he apparently had a pretty good alibi.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2017, 12:21:24 PM
yeah maybe just link us to it instead so we don't have to look at whatever that is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 13, 2017, 12:23:41 PM
yeah maybe just link us to it instead so we don't have to look at whatever that is

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=311443
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2017, 03:00:26 PM
http://www.kmbz.com/articles/apparent-dog-poisoning-attempted-waldo-neighborhood-kansas-city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 16, 2017, 04:18:48 PM
KCI community design workshops schedule..show up and tell them how many Chili's and PGA stores you want

https://www.kci-edgemoor.com/events-1/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 16, 2017, 06:02:15 PM
KCI community design workshops schedule..show up and tell them how many Chili's and PGA stores you want

https://www.kci-edgemoor.com/events-1/
I wonder if they care what people want? they shouldn’t. people are idiots.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 16, 2017, 06:11:18 PM
still waiting for her support on my no panhandle in entertainment district initiative yet she and alex have continued to have gone deaf

it’s a no brainer especially after i supported her with her 4 way stop thing on main st
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2017, 08:59:59 PM
http://fox4kc.com/2017/11/16/overland-park-dog-dies-after-owner-says-she-was-poisoned-resembling-similar-waldo-incident-from-last-week/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 17, 2017, 08:21:31 AM
http://fox4kc.com/2017/11/16/overland-park-dog-dies-after-owner-says-she-was-poisoned-resembling-similar-waldo-incident-from-last-week/
Sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 14, 2017, 06:18:46 PM
in the end, 'clams always wins

https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/941461326882258944
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 14, 2017, 07:37:19 PM
Kansas City government is incredible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 14, 2017, 09:26:59 PM
jfc  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2017, 09:51:59 PM
in the end, 'clams always wins

https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/941461326882258944

This is an idiotic tweet.  The plans are not in doubt. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 14, 2017, 09:54:01 PM
Kansas City government is incredible.

I don't know the 9 of the council's beef on this at this point....something about they don't like how much Edgemoor can get from the city if it falls apart (after MOU signed) is scaring them off I think.....Jolie and Sly (and two others) are okay with it so not sure where I fall....definitely want the best deal for the city so don't mind if the council pushes on Edgemoor a bit...we have the upper hand on this deal. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 14, 2017, 10:40:28 PM
Doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, just that Edgemoor may not be doing it.  Should be interesting to see if they go with AECOM or open it back up for vote where Burns could get another shot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ShellShock on December 15, 2017, 04:06:43 PM
Doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, just that Edgemoor may not be doing it.  Should be interesting to see if they go with AECOM or open it back up for vote where Burns could get another shot.

In no way, shape or form do I want AECOM or B&M building this airport. Both have major skeletons in the closet on botched airport designs...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 15, 2017, 05:22:46 PM
I'm at double shift rn and they're playing a Liars of Local Interest song. Way to represent mhk @kcfdcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
Downtown was a crap show today. Besides Nebraska peeps, who the eff is down there? Who's in the final four?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 15, 2017, 06:25:09 PM
I enjoy how anytime downtown KC has traffic and/or activity, Kansas Citians refer to it as a "crap show" or "mad house"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2017, 06:27:36 PM
We just wanted to get some grub and for a Friday lunch it was insane downtown. We know it's not Chicago everyday, but we literally had no clue what event was going on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 15, 2017, 06:55:04 PM
Doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, just that Edgemoor may not be doing it.  Should be interesting to see if they go with AECOM or open it back up for vote where Burns could get another shot.

In no way, shape or form do I want AECOM or B&M building this airport. Both have major skeletons in the closet on botched airport designs...


Maybe they learned from them?  :dunno:

I have no idea who is good and who is not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 15, 2017, 06:57:35 PM
I enjoy how anytime downtown KC has traffic and/or activity, Kansas Citians refer to it as a "crap show" or "mad house"

Grew up in eudora, lives in lenexa = Kansas citian
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2017, 07:08:22 PM
 :lol: Jesus Christ, like Mocat can't tell when traffic picks up in his city. Mister I've never lived in another state in my life. Holy crap, dude! :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2017, 07:10:39 PM
Born in MHK moved to Texas ---> moved to Colorado ----> moved to Iowa ----> moved to KC , etc. Kick rocks townie. I still know when a small midwestern city picks up traffic dork.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 15, 2017, 07:15:07 PM
Guys relax, it’s Friday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 16, 2017, 01:35:28 PM
in the end, 'clams always wins

https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/941461326882258944
just catching up with this
once again, Slyin shows his ineptitude.  handshake agreements and lack of transparency in kc city hall.  but let’s give these idiots a billion dollars to manage and hope for the best
said it before and will say it again, they just couldn’t eff this up any worse

what a bunch of downgrades and anybody with one iota of pride in this city should be embarrassed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2017, 01:44:18 PM
Everyone is embarrassed except phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 16, 2017, 01:45:58 PM
Too busy writing Amazon reviews. Damn, sly!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 16, 2017, 01:53:25 PM
Too busy writing Amazon reviews. Damn, sly!

make no mistake, he outsourced that too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2017, 02:02:40 PM
https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/941649977234935808
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ShellShock on December 17, 2017, 10:41:00 PM
Doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, just that Edgemoor may not be doing it.  Should be interesting to see if they go with AECOM or open it back up for vote where Burns could get another shot.

In no way, shape or form do I want AECOM or B&M building this airport. Both have major skeletons in the closet on botched airport designs...


Maybe they learned from them?  :dunno:

I have no idea who is good and who is not.

Trust me on this one Pete!  :cheers:

Edgemoor (Clark Construction) is who we want building this thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 18, 2017, 08:52:33 AM
Everyone is embarrassed except phil
Negotion of a billion dollar project probably should look a little ugly if both sides want a good deal for themselves.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 18, 2017, 09:40:57 AM
I'll bring up again though...the airport shouldn't be controlled by KCMO alone. Get a regional entity to run it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2017, 09:46:35 AM
Pipe dream
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 18, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
Pipe dream

great game.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2017, 10:52:12 AM
Everyone is embarrassed except phil
Negotion of a billion dollar project probably should look a little ugly if both sides want a good deal for themselves.

yeah, that's exactly what this is.  gmafb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 18, 2017, 11:08:38 AM
Everyone is embarrassed except phil
Negotion of a billion dollar project probably should look a little ugly if both sides want a good deal for themselves.

yeah, that's exactly what this is.  gmafb.
What is this? Part of the council wanting AECOM so doing their best to derail the current plan?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2017, 02:54:06 PM
what this is is just the latest in a series of incompetence and eff ups in this process, hope that helps
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 18, 2017, 03:13:33 PM
what this is is just the latest in a series of incompetence and eff ups in this process, hope that helps
Who do you blame?  Jolie? She ran the committee.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2017, 03:29:09 PM
Everyone involved- the mayor and the entire city council are all inept.  This process couldn’t have been more mumped up.  Slyin’s lack of transparency bites him in the ass yet again.

And why did the MOU go to an outside attorney instead of coming from the city’s attorney?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on December 18, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Now AECOM and B&M are teaming up.  what a clusterfuck. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on December 18, 2017, 04:47:08 PM
This whole thing is a total cluster eff. I’m usually on Phil’s side, but good God this could not have been handled any worse from day 1.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 18, 2017, 04:55:40 PM
I don't deny it represents quite a clusterfuck situation....just not sure where the blame falls.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on December 18, 2017, 05:09:48 PM
Someone cliff notes this for me , is the airport going to happen but be super crappy or is it going to die?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 18, 2017, 05:20:19 PM
Someone cliff notes this for me , is the airport going to happen but be super crappy or is it going to die?

yes it will happen...the debate now is if the city can come to terms with the winning proposer, Edgemoor...if not...city will move to 2nd place AECOM. 

The clusterfuck aspect is it appears some of the council isn't operating in good faith and is trying to get rid of Edgemoor any way possible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 18, 2017, 05:58:50 PM
Is it bad faith, or just different faith?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2017, 06:06:02 PM
I don't deny it represents quite a clusterfuck situation....just not sure where the blame falls.

lol who is the one constant throughout?  your boy slyin james
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on December 19, 2017, 11:15:40 AM
I don't deny it represents quite a clusterfuck situation....just not sure where the blame falls.

lol who is the one constant throughout?  your boy slyin james

Yet the funny thing is while he is the constant, the problem has consistently been in the cluterduck part City Council is in this. Who had to make this a competitive bid process when it was going to be no risk to the city coffers in the first place? City Council. Who decided to pick a competitor that is out of city/market? City Council. Who didn't properly vet said pick and being pissed at their inability to meet diversity and community benefits, when they had the rough ridin' chance to go with someone else from the get go? City Council. Sly might be the hatred of your eyes but in this process, it's been the Council who has been unable to do this properly from beginning to end.

Have fun everyone in dealing with this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 19, 2017, 11:25:07 AM
yeah but city council just does whatever sly tells them to
-clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2017, 11:27:46 AM
And now sly is saying make a deal with edgemoor or redo that process...seems the most sensible course of action...
But if you hate sly can't change now!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 19, 2017, 01:42:18 PM
I don't deny it represents quite a clusterfuck situation....just not sure where the blame falls.

lol who is the one constant throughout?  your boy slyin james

Yet the funny thing is while he is the constant, the problem has consistently been in the cluterduck part City Council is in this. Who had to make this a competitive bid process when it was going to be no risk to the city coffers in the first place? City Council. Who decided to pick a competitor that is out of city/market? City Council. Who didn't properly vet said pick and being pissed at their inability to meet diversity and community benefits, when they had the rough ridin' chance to go with someone else from the get go? City Council. Sly might be the hatred of your eyes but in this process, it's been the Council who has been unable to do this properly from beginning to end.

Have fun everyone in dealing with this.
wrong per usual but keep defending slyin
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 19, 2017, 02:12:24 PM
slyin- let’s use a private attorney and circumvent the city’s attorney when drafting this mou

city council- can we get a look at this mou?

slyin/edgemoor/private attorney- sure here you go!

city council- half of this mou is blacked out?

slyin- don’t worry ‘bout it

city council- slyin you can eat a dick


goEMAW- slyin does no wrong.  city council’s fault.  I repeat, slyin does no wrong.  does no wrong.  beep beep bop robot noises.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2017, 02:15:35 PM
At least we have slyin' James looking out for us
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 19, 2017, 02:21:43 PM
i’m an equal opportunity blame giver, hilarious that slyin’s internet bots are programmed so well considering how everything he touches is so mumped up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
Majority of council (12/13 ) requested outside council be brought in to guide the city through negotiations of this project.  Lucas (who is not a fan of sly) initiated the resolution.

Lol the MOU being "blacked out". Cue up the Jennifer Lawrence OK gif.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 19, 2017, 03:29:10 PM
Majority of council (12/13 ) requested outside council be brought in to guide the city through negotiations of this project.  Lucas (who is not a fan of sly) initiated the resolution.

Lol the MOU being "blacked out". Cue up the Jennifer Lawrence OK gif.


initiate slybot.exe(cuse)

need an excuse? just run the ol' slybot 5000
plenty of the mou was blacked out hence the council's vote
but i know, ol' slybots can't fault slyin for anything
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2017, 03:38:31 PM
Just the boring parts I was told
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 20, 2017, 12:55:00 PM
looking into the $30M that edgemoor wants us to reimburse them for is pure comedy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 20, 2017, 05:18:09 PM
looking into the $30M that edgemoor wants us to reimburse them for is pure comedy
Tell us more
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 20, 2017, 06:09:00 PM
Westport sidewalks have officially been vacated
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 20, 2017, 06:55:49 PM
Permitless carry went into effect this year in missouri. Gun related violent incidents in westport went from 16 in 2016 to over 60 so far this year. Crazy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on December 20, 2017, 07:13:30 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 20, 2017, 07:18:10 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Someone sum it up. TLDNR.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on December 20, 2017, 07:30:12 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Someone sum it up. TLDNR.

Lawyers were paid big $$$ by KC to negotiate MOU with Edgemoor. MOU unveiled after city vote. City on hook to reimburse Edgemoor for “expenses” if Edgemoor pulls off the job for any reason. These expenses include $45k/month in travel and +1mil in legal fees. Expenses are uncapped and Edgemoor can pull out at any time for any reason whatsoever.  In a doomsday scenario where Edgemoor pulled out late and we owed them big $$&, how would city pay for it? 

Doesn’t seem like a good deal for the city. If this’ll article is true.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 20, 2017, 07:31:05 PM
Permitless carry went into effect this year in missouri. Gun related violent incidents in westport went from 16 in 2016 to over 60 so far this year. Crazy

We’ve had 2 in 3 days and I’m betting it’s because of this for MHK gun violence
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 20, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Someone sum it up. TLDNR.

Lawyers were paid big $$$ by KC to negotiate MOU with Edgemoor. MOU unveiled after city vote. City on hook to reimburse Edgemoor for “expenses” if Edgemoor pulls off the job for any reason. These expenses include $45k/month in travel and +1mil in legal fees. Expenses are uncapped and Edgemoor can pull out at any time for any reason whatsoever.  In a doomsday scenario where Edgemoor pulled out late and we owed them big $$&, how would city pay for it? 

Doesn’t seem like a good deal for the city. If this’ll article is true.

That’s still pretty long
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on December 20, 2017, 07:35:34 PM
Edgemoor got the city to sign a legal document that states they can walk for any reason and also get paid when they do?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
Edgemoor got the city to sign a legal document that states they can walk for any reason and also get paid when they do?

that's why the city council voted it down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on December 20, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think



I don't know how these things realistically work most of the time but holy crap that renner guy that the council hired to represent them sure appears to have been either completely incompetent or had a huge conflict of interest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 20, 2017, 09:19:20 PM
Permitless carry went into effect this year in missouri. Gun related violent incidents in westport went from 16 in 2016 to over 60 so far this year. Crazy

It's not official yet....tomorrow it's voted on by full council...and these numbers are a farce westport businesses are pushing and the fact is the majority of those crimes published by the KCPD show these are happening outside of the area they will vacate aleady....this won't fix any problem except Bill Nigro trying to keep black people from his front door.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 20, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Someone sum it up. TLDNR.

Lawyers were paid big $$$ by KC to negotiate MOU with Edgemoor. MOU unveiled after city vote. City on hook to reimburse Edgemoor for “expenses” if Edgemoor pulls off the job for any reason. These expenses include $45k/month in travel and +1mil in legal fees. Expenses are uncapped and Edgemoor can pull out at any time for any reason whatsoever.  In a doomsday scenario where Edgemoor pulled out late and we owed them big $$&, how would city pay for it? 

Doesn’t seem like a good deal for the city. If this’ll article is true.

True.  False (draft of MOU was out before vote). True as of now but is part of the negotiations....but for that money the city keeps the work product so wouldn't have to reproduce what was done (so while maybe inflated doesn't sound that unfair).  City would pay through airport revenues.

good thread to some non-pitch scare article

https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/942164644348809217
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 20, 2017, 09:36:10 PM
Permitless carry went into effect this year in missouri. Gun related violent incidents in westport went from 16 in 2016 to over 60 so far this year. Crazy

It's not official yet....tomorrow it's voted on by full council...and these numbers are a farce westport businesses are pushing and the fact is the majority of those crimes published by the KCPD show these are happening outside of the area they will vacate aleady....this won't fix any problem except Bill Nigro trying to keep black people from his front door.
There is more to it than that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 20, 2017, 09:38:17 PM
KC seems worse than MHK maybe I shouldn't move back.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 20, 2017, 09:42:08 PM
Permitless carry went into effect this year in missouri. Gun related violent incidents in westport went from 16 in 2016 to over 60 so far this year. Crazy

It's not official yet....tomorrow it's voted on by full council...and these numbers are a farce westport businesses are pushing and the fact is the majority of those crimes published by the KCPD show these are happening outside of the area they will vacate aleady....this won't fix any problem except Bill Nigro trying to keep black people from his front door.
There is more to it than that

we have horrible state gun laws...got it....you don't fix that by giving bar owners sidewalks and the city having to PAY to get them back when this doesn't work....no data in any other city has shown this to work nor is the crime right now happening in the area you'll be frisked to get into.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 20, 2017, 09:45:25 PM
Listen I'm not all for this but the police say this will give them more ability to cover the surrounding neighborhoods aka where I live
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 20, 2017, 09:48:41 PM
Listen I'm not all for this but the police say this will give them more ability to cover the surrounding neighborhoods aka where I live

I totally get that desire but that is a joke and you know it...they aren't going to patrol your hood, they are still going to be pulled into the crowds in and around the DMZ.

Hold them to it.  Complain to council when you don't see it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 20, 2017, 09:52:16 PM
What is mocat doing that he doesn't the 5-0 knowing about  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 20, 2017, 10:04:04 PM
Listen I'm not all for this but the police say this will give them more ability to cover the surrounding neighborhoods aka where I live

I totally get that desire but that is a joke and you know it...they aren't going to patrol your hood, they are still going to be pulled into the crowds in and around the DMZ.

Hold them to it.  Complain to council when you don't see it.

Agree but I think it's unfair to paint the motives as racist. Universally everybody is kind of like well wtf do we do about this. I am just super pissed that Missouri leg passed such an obviously terrible law
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 20, 2017, 10:09:33 PM
Listen I'm not all for this but the police say this will give them more ability to cover the surrounding neighborhoods aka where I live

I totally get that desire but that is a joke and you know it...they aren't going to patrol your hood, they are still going to be pulled into the crowds in and around the DMZ.

Hold them to it.  Complain to council when you don't see it.

Agree but I think it's unfair to paint the motives as racist. Universally everybody is kind of like well wtf do we do about this. I am just super pissed that Missouri leg passed such an obviously terrible law

That was just a bit of gE'ing about Nigro who has some great quotes including “I don’t believe in playing hip-hop and rap music and drawing a specific crowd. I’m not looking for that,” Nigro says. “I’ve owned a few country nightclubs, and I’ve had fewer problems out of that crowd. If that makes me racist, fine. If somebody’s offended by that, fine."

"the wtf do we do" doesn't include a half of what has been suggested they try...and again, the crime isn't happening where they will frisk people...it's already occurring outside of that area. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 10:20:24 AM
Oh man if you aren't tuned to channel 2 all day today you don't know what you are missing

Westport giveaway
Airport back on track
Streetcar finding a way to move forward
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2017, 10:21:34 AM
 :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 12:18:14 PM
Airport back on track negotiation wise after Lucas got cooler heads to prevail....a month of negotiation ahead....let's hope some on the council out on their big boy/girl pants and don't make this only about them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 02:06:16 PM
Expecting Westport to get our sidewalks....hope I'm wrong that this helps the Westport situation.... wish Westport bars would help the community beyond their front sidewalk...I fear this will just make the surrounding neighborhood worse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Someone sum it up. TLDNR.

Lawyers were paid big $$$ by KC to negotiate MOU with Edgemoor. MOU unveiled after city vote. City on hook to reimburse Edgemoor for “expenses” if Edgemoor pulls off the job for any reason. These expenses include $45k/month in travel and +1mil in legal fees. Expenses are uncapped and Edgemoor can pull out at any time for any reason whatsoever.  In a doomsday scenario where Edgemoor pulled out late and we owed them big $$&, how would city pay for it? 

Doesn’t seem like a good deal for the city. If this’ll article is true.
that darn city council!!

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 02:15:50 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Someone sum it up. TLDNR.

Lawyers were paid big $$$ by KC to negotiate MOU with Edgemoor. MOU unveiled after city vote. City on hook to reimburse Edgemoor for “expenses” if Edgemoor pulls off the job for any reason. These expenses include $45k/month in travel and +1mil in legal fees. Expenses are uncapped and Edgemoor can pull out at any time for any reason whatsoever.  In a doomsday scenario where Edgemoor pulled out late and we owed them big $$&, how would city pay for it? 

Doesn’t seem like a good deal for the city. If this’ll article is true.
that darn city council!!
Jolie and Quinton got them in line. High five!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 02:26:38 PM
beep bop beep beep bop

seriously you’re the kansas city government version of beems
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 02:28:46 PM
beep bop beep beep bop

seriously you’re the kansas city government version of beems
Love progress my bud. Merry Christmas to all!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 02:35:28 PM
Majority of council (12/13 ) requested outside council be brought in to guide the city through negotiations of this project.  Lucas (who is not a fan of sly) initiated the resolution.

Lol the MOU being "blacked out". Cue up the Jennifer Lawrence OK gif.


we got our money’s worth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 02:37:10 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Someone sum it up. TLDNR.

Lawyers were paid big $$$ by KC to negotiate MOU with Edgemoor. MOU unveiled after city vote. City on hook to reimburse Edgemoor for “expenses” if Edgemoor pulls off the job for any reason. These expenses include $45k/month in travel and +1mil in legal fees. Expenses are uncapped and Edgemoor can pull out at any time for any reason whatsoever.  In a doomsday scenario where Edgemoor pulled out late and we owed them big $$&, how would city pay for it? 

Doesn’t seem like a good deal for the city. If this’ll article is true.

True.  False (draft of MOU was out before vote). True as of now but is part of the negotiations....but for that money the city keeps the work product so wouldn't have to reproduce what was done (so while maybe inflated doesn't sound that unfair).  City would pay through airport revenues.

good thread to some non-pitch scare article

https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/942164644348809217

non pitch scare article
we know you prefer the kc cheerleader star
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2017, 02:38:14 PM
Celebrate good times, come on!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 03:12:37 PM
https://www.pitch.com/news/blog/20986572/whats-happening-with-the-kansas-city-airport-is-astonishing-but-not-for-the-reasons-you-probably-think

Someone sum it up. TLDNR.

Lawyers were paid big $$$ by KC to negotiate MOU with Edgemoor. MOU unveiled after city vote. City on hook to reimburse Edgemoor for “expenses” if Edgemoor pulls off the job for any reason. These expenses include $45k/month in travel and +1mil in legal fees. Expenses are uncapped and Edgemoor can pull out at any time for any reason whatsoever.  In a doomsday scenario where Edgemoor pulled out late and we owed them big $$&, how would city pay for it? 

Doesn’t seem like a good deal for the city. If this’ll article is true.

True.  False (draft of MOU was out before vote). True as of now but is part of the negotiations....but for that money the city keeps the work product so wouldn't have to reproduce what was done (so while maybe inflated doesn't sound that unfair).  City would pay through airport revenues.

good thread to some non-pitch scare article

https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/942164644348809217

non pitch scare article
we know you prefer the kc cheerleader star
Their editorial was so mean to my masters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 03:14:57 PM
beep bop bop bop beep
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2017, 03:18:37 PM
clams do you like living in the plaza during the holidays?
it probably sucks just bc of all the derp shoppers but man the joyous festive energy levels were off the charts at trio last night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
clams do you like living in the plaza during the holidays?
it probably sucks just bc of all the derp shoppers but man the joyous festive energy levels were off the charts at trio last night.
I do, a lot.  I used to hate it until I found a secured parking spot of my own but yea it’s kinda great to see all of the people celebrating the holidays.  I hate the carriages though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 03:34:55 PM
clams do you like living in the plaza during the holidays?
it probably sucks just bc of all the derp shoppers but man the joyous festive energy levels were off the charts at trio last night.
I do, a lot.  I used to hate it until I found a secured parking spot of my own but yea it’s kinda great to see all of the people celebrating the holidays.  I hate the carriages though
The bars are the best this week and next....nothing like it in KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 03:36:36 PM
clams do you like living in the plaza during the holidays?
it probably sucks just bc of all the derp shoppers but man the joyous festive energy levels were off the charts at trio last night.
I do, a lot.  I used to hate it until I found a secured parking spot of my own but yea it’s kinda great to see all of the people celebrating the holidays.  I hate the carriages though
The bars are the best this week and next....nothing like it in KC.
Saw my old plaza house building the other day on roanoke...wow talk about a huge improvement.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
ya tim wall bought it and is flipping it, new windows, patios, etc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 03:48:38 PM
the horse shoes wear our streets out so they have to repave them a lot
these dickheads are making money off of these rides and i have to pay fix the roads
and it smells like horse piss by victoria secret
ban the carriages
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 06:15:06 PM
Westport gets the sidewalks.... Let's hope it helps and doesn't impact people civil rights. Unfortantely I feel like it will do the opposite in both cases.

5 negative votes was a positive....Jolie and Quinton neck in neck for my pick for next mayor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
like the second amendment right to bear arms?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 06:46:46 PM
like the second amendment right to bear arms?

Call SD...it's being infringed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2017, 07:06:00 PM
Westport gets the sidewalks.... Let's hope it helps and doesn't impact people civil rights. Unfortantely I feel like it will do the opposite in both cases.

5 negative votes was a positive....Jolie and Quinton neck in neck for my pick for next mayor.
ya jolie wants the mayor job so bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2017, 10:38:12 PM
Westport gets the sidewalks.... Let's hope it helps and doesn't impact people civil rights. Unfortantely I feel like it will do the opposite in both cases.

5 negative votes was a positive....Jolie and Quinton neck in neck for my pick for next mayor.
ya jolie wants the mayor job so bad

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2017, 05:57:43 PM
Interesting

https://twitter.com/r_little_finger/status/943136457325244416
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on December 22, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
makes you think
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 22, 2017, 07:00:54 PM
Would love a list of cities with Republican mayors
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 22, 2017, 07:01:15 PM
Pretty sure its OKC and jacksonville and maybe like 2 more
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on December 22, 2017, 07:19:24 PM
Interesting

https://twitter.com/r_little_finger/status/943136457325244416
Where’s Chicago with their liberal gun laws?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on December 22, 2017, 11:10:03 PM
Pretty sure its OKC and jacksonville and maybe like 2 more

Yeah, cities elect republican mayors? Save that kinda crazy for bigger things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2017, 07:54:41 AM
Interesting

https://twitter.com/r_little_finger/status/943136457325244416
Where’s Chicago with their liberal gun laws?


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Doesn’t fit the agenda of the poster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2017, 07:56:00 AM
Never mind just looked it up and appears the Twitter poster is just a dumbass.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2017, 10:44:25 AM
I had no agenda, dipshit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 23, 2017, 10:47:26 AM
If you can't trust J Patriot Train for accurate crime data then I just don't know anymore
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 23, 2017, 05:56:07 PM
Interesting

https://twitter.com/r_little_finger/status/943136457325244416
Where’s Chicago with their liberal gun laws?


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Matt, our gun laws aren't actually that strict, and the punishments for gun crime is pretty lax. It's just next impossible to legally purchase a gun in the city limits.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on December 23, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
Interesting

https://twitter.com/r_little_finger/status/943136457325244416
Where’s Chicago with their liberal gun laws?


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Matt, our gun laws aren't actually that strict, and the punishments for gun crime is pretty lax. It's just next impossible to legally purchase a gun in the city limits.
That is not why I’ve been told by memes on Facebook.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 29, 2017, 08:54:47 AM
Antons really is the best.  :cry:

https://www.facebook.com/nationswell/videos/921624444673705/?hc_ref=ARRSXJ9xA8LYi7ccbg-6qbp5Fu7un5pcf0s7P-CTIjfiIWAGkj4MocuEaInXQXgvuIk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 29, 2017, 02:29:13 PM
Thanks, sly!  :frown:

https://twitter.com/Ian__Cummings/status/946806391670423552
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 29, 2017, 02:43:50 PM
it's absolutely crazy to think that Missouri's permitless carry law going into effect in 2017 would have such a huge effect on murder rates in 2017. i mean who could have seen this coming
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 29, 2017, 03:03:15 PM
#progress
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 29, 2017, 03:34:28 PM
Maybe we should just privatize all the sidewalks so we can frisk everyone?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on December 29, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
Full cavity search
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 10:12:10 AM
Where should I go to brunch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 30, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
Where should I go to brunch

you want the best food or party/mimosa sitch?

Check out Affare*, Jacobson*, Blvd Tavern*, Farmhouse, Webster House*, Summit Grill*, Jax*, Majestic menus...they are all solid for brunch.  Jacobson and Louies Wine Dive are probably the biggest party atmospheres.  Bristol a lot of people rave about but I'm not a fan of buffets for brunch.  There are places in Westport like Beer Kitchen, Foundry, Port Fonda, and Char Bar but I've not been there for brunch.

* - bottomless mimosas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 10:23:12 AM
Eh we're doing waffle House breakfast and a BBQ lunch. What should I order at q39?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 30, 2017, 10:31:31 AM
I have only been there twice ....but their ribs and chicken were solid when I went.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 11:14:08 AM
Get burnt ends & a side of sausage. Don't F with their fries
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 30, 2017, 11:40:35 AM
i bet that waffle house bf was good af.

and i believe the burnt end burger is what 'clams always tells me i need to get but that might be char bar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2017, 12:04:08 PM
Get burnt ends & a side of sausage. Don't F with their fries

Listen to mocat here, he's dead on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2017, 12:29:42 PM
Burnt end burger mich is their Z man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
I'm at the Steamboat Arabia now! Wow!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 12:47:05 PM
i bet that waffle house bf was good af.

and i believe the burnt end burger is what 'clams always tells me i need to get but that might be char bar
The burnt end burger is Q39, but get actual bbq if you're just in town for one bbq
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 12:47:30 PM
I'm at the Steamboat Arabia now! Wow!

That's p great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 01:08:05 PM
I might do Gates or Joe's too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 30, 2017, 01:22:30 PM
can't wait to see where kRusty's travels take him next
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 30, 2017, 01:53:32 PM
I'm at the Steamboat Arabia now! Wow!

sorry about the temps!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
Dude this place is in a strip mall and has a thirty minute wait at 2pm? WTF?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 30, 2017, 02:18:49 PM
Dude this place is in a strip mall and has a thirty minute wait at 2pm? WTF?

it's annoying and hipster bbq...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 02:20:23 PM
Dude this place is in a strip mall and has a thirty minute wait at 2pm? WTF?

it's annoying and hipster bbq...
LOL is this a wacky joke?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 30, 2017, 02:25:34 PM
Dude this place is in a strip mall and has a thirty minute wait at 2pm? WTF?

it's annoying and hipster bbq...
LOL is this a wacky joke?

it should be!  The times I've been there I've been annoyed by it and them trying too hard...it's bbq, serve it that way.   Their fries come all neatly arranged in a cup and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 02:33:39 PM
I don't see a sausage side @mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 02:34:45 PM
I don't see a sausage side @mocat
Just ask for a side of sausage
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 30, 2017, 02:35:15 PM
I remember my first beer...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 02:36:22 PM
I remember my first beer...
Speaking of which, what's up with these beer glasses?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 02:38:00 PM
I don't know about this place, you guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 02:40:01 PM
It's so good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2017, 02:52:56 PM
can you see the firehouse  garage door that opens when warm to the outdoor patio area?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2017, 03:24:09 PM
Beer Kitchen was a crap show today. We had to settle for Mccoys. :fartnoise: :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2017, 03:24:54 PM
Get a steak at Antons tonight @michigancat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 30, 2017, 03:39:55 PM
I enjoy how anytime downtown KC has traffic and/or activity, Kansas Citians refer to it as a "crap show" or "mad house"

Grew up in eudora, lives in lenexa = Kansas citian

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 30, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
Beer Kitchen was a crap show today. We had to settle for Mccoys. :fartnoise: :frown:

Majestic Brunch was on point today.....their B&G is the best!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2017, 03:46:47 PM
I enjoy how anytime downtown KC has traffic and/or activity, Kansas Citians refer to it as a "crap show" or "mad house"

Grew up in eudora, lives in lenexa = Kansas citian
weird. Again I lived downtown for 4 years, remember, you met me for drinks once, but ya, keep playing this weird bizarre narrative. Been here for 9 years now The Big Tuck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 30, 2017, 03:47:41 PM
I enjoy how anytime downtown KC has traffic and/or activity, Kansas Citians refer to it as a "crap show" or "mad house"

Grew up in eudora, lives in lenexa = Kansas citian
weird. Again I lived downtown for 4 years, remember, you met me for drinks once, but ya, keep playing this weird bizarre narrative. Been here for 9 years now The Big Tuck

:lol:

Chill out bud. Happy New Year. :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 03:47:57 PM
Mccoys is fantastic at everything
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2017, 03:50:42 PM
Beer Kitchen was a crap show today. We had to settle for Mccoys. :fartnoise: :frown:

Majestic Brunch was on point today.....their B&G is the best!
Love it!

Mccoys is the Applebee's of Westport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2017, 03:53:17 PM
Happy NY TBT. Heading to Christmas #5 right now. It's hammer time after that. Sheesh. Make it stop.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 30, 2017, 04:05:35 PM
Mccoys is fantastic at everything

yeah, it's a really great place and home to one of the best burgs in the city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 04:47:36 PM
Beer Kitchen was a crap show today. We had to settle for Mccoys. :fartnoise: :frown:

Majestic Brunch was on point today.....their B&G is the best!
Love it!

Mccoys is the Applebee's of Westport.
I think you mean hopcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2017, 08:57:23 PM
Mccoys is a chain too homie.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 09:02:20 PM
Mccoys is a chain too homie.

Yeah no it's definitely not
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2017, 09:14:26 PM
Do you love their shitty homemade beer, bud? Do you like their average menu and open spacing seats for being average? Or their porch where dogs come in and crap while ppl eat. Not a Kansas Citian here, looking for in depth thought from a pro life Kansas Citian like yourself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 30, 2017, 09:29:24 PM
Wack and I together on this.  And Antons being super good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 30, 2017, 09:35:43 PM
I have never had a good experience at anton’s.  so, I buy my steak (grain fed bone in ribeye) from their meat counter and cook it myself.  best in town.

mccoys reminds me of o’douds.  smelly/dirty gross bar for grosses/poors
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 30, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
I have never had a good experience at anton’s.  so, I buy my steak (grain fed bone in ribeye) from their meat counter and cook it myself.  best in town.

mccoys reminds me of o’douds.  smelly/dirty gross bar for grosses/poors

I've always been impressed.  But maybe it's just because the meat is so king

Mccoys beer is just so mediocre.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2017, 10:10:05 PM
You just hate to see this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2017, 10:34:16 PM
Q39 was pretty good. I liked how they toasted the bun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 31, 2017, 12:11:28 AM
Also the Arabia is really cool even if it's weird! A uniquely KC thing. Was surprised at how many people were at City Market and enjoyed the smells and wished I knew where there was something similar in the Bay. I really just thought q39 was ok but my kids loved it so we might go later in the week. Then met a friend in Lenexa and marveled at the shades of beige and then went to Tanner's on 119th street. They served me a KC Pils in a plastic cup. Then I left town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 31, 2017, 09:31:42 AM
You were sort of close to the Stone estate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 31, 2017, 10:37:21 AM
I've never went to McCoy's as a destination but ended up there a few times to eat....their food and beer is all pretty meh but that Mac and cheese is pretty good.  Their patio is awesome.

But it's not a chain.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 31, 2017, 10:40:14 AM
Yeah, we've established that. It just has such a chainy vibe. It's always a second resort restaurant when beer kitchen has a 45 minute wait. They really need to expand that place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 31, 2017, 10:42:06 AM
Yeah, we've established that. It just has such a chainy vibe. It's always a second resort restaurant when beer kitchen has a 45 minute wait. They really need to expand that place.
Beer kitchen isn't much better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 31, 2017, 10:43:08 AM
Beer Kitchen has my favorite burger in town. It is better, much better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 31, 2017, 10:44:12 AM
I have never had a good experience at anton’s.  so, I buy my steak (grain fed bone in ribeye) from their meat counter and cook it myself.  best in town.

mccoys reminds me of o’douds.  smelly/dirty gross bar for grosses/poors
Their brunch is trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 31, 2017, 10:44:14 AM
The same people run beer kitchen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 31, 2017, 10:45:08 AM
And they run it better there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 31, 2017, 10:48:28 AM
It's all good tho peeps. We all have our own tastes. People talk up Westport Local but I've never had a good experience there. Beer Kitchen is consistent and I dig their beer menu.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on December 31, 2017, 10:52:11 AM
I used to go to Westport a lot more when I lived in KC but i fear for my life going back now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 31, 2017, 10:55:51 AM
It's all good tho peeps. We all have our own tastes. People talk up Westport Local but I've never had a good experience there. Beer Kitchen is consistent and I dig their beer menu.
What is Westport local?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 31, 2017, 10:58:27 AM
Westside local. My bad. Was stuck on Westport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 31, 2017, 11:06:43 AM
Westside local. My bad. Was stuck on Westport.
I don't mind that place but mostly because it's walkable....I can see people being meh on it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 31, 2017, 03:55:09 PM
I'm not just blowing smoke because of KCFDcat but the Hop Lung is easily a top 3 KC beer for me....just grabbed two growlers for tonight!  :billdance:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 31, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
WL has a great rep in my circle
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 01, 2018, 09:44:06 PM
I'm not just blowing smoke because of KCFDcat but the Hop Lung is easily a top 3 KC beer for me....just grabbed two growlers for tonight!  :billdance:

This is the nicest thing anyone on here has ever said about me. Really hit me right in the feels
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on January 02, 2018, 10:43:04 AM
it's absolutely crazy to think that Missouri's permitless carry law going into effect in 2017 would have such a huge effect on murder rates in 2017. i mean who could have seen this coming
Same thing in Wichita. Shootings and murders are way up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 02, 2018, 10:48:11 AM
Dudes with small penises feel much safer now tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 02, 2018, 11:05:43 AM
Dudes with small penises feel much safer now tho

That is important, they are people too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 02, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
it's absolutely crazy to think that Missouri's permitless carry law going into effect in 2017 would have such a huge effect on murder rates in 2017. i mean who could have seen this coming
Same thing in Wichita. Shootings and murders are way up.

Clearly we need to issue moar guns to everyone, then the problem will resolve itself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 02, 2018, 05:01:33 PM
william sonoma closing on the plaza really hurts me deeply
yeah, sur la table but meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 02, 2018, 05:05:29 PM
william sonoma closing on the plaza really hurts me deeply
yeah, sur la table but meh

Seems they have something large planned for that location given they are closing the customer service center and Telsa is leaving.

Heard somewhere that Nordstrom's was going in in the theater building?  Maybe that's common knowledge.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 02, 2018, 05:47:38 PM
yeah i’ve heard nordstrom for a while, first in the old halls space and more recently I heard that they’re taking capital grille/noodles and company/cinemark spaces. 

I don’t think anything is planned for the corner of ward and wornall yet
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 02, 2018, 06:38:31 PM
yeah i’ve heard nordstrom for a while, first in the old halls space and more recently I heard that they’re taking capital grille/noodles and company/cinemark spaces. 

I don’t think anything is planned for the corner of ward and wornall yet

capital grille is moving to the tesla/customer service/william sonoma spot, nordstrom is taking the aforementioned spot on jefferson
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 02, 2018, 10:38:55 PM
yeah i’ve heard nordstrom for a while, first in the old halls space and more recently I heard that they’re taking capital grille/noodles and company/cinemark spaces. 

I don’t think anything is planned for the corner of ward and wornall yet

capital grille is moving to the tesla/customer service/william sonoma spot, nordstrom is taking the aforementioned spot on jefferson
:thumbs;
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 02, 2018, 11:45:49 PM
If the Cinemark on the plaza does leave I’m gonna be crushed


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 03, 2018, 12:29:53 AM
ive heard it from several sources so it may be true, heard the lease wasn’t renewed
with the blame they get for the kids coming in the summer nights, I wouldn’t be surprised

also that theater sucks balls and dicks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 03, 2018, 10:27:59 AM
I like McCoy's and the plaza theater.  The plaza theater has been so good to me over the years, and the ticket taker usually has a p good joke.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2018, 10:36:35 AM
I like McCoy's and the plaza theater.  The plaza theater has been so good to me over the years, and the ticket taker usually has a p good joke.

yeah he always cannot believe mrs mocat would go anywhere in public with me  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 03, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
nordstrom can have cheesecake factory or something smh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 03, 2018, 10:43:36 AM
ive heard it from several sources so it may be true, heard the lease wasn’t renewed
with the blame they get for the kids coming in the summer nights, I wouldn’t be surprised

also that theater sucks balls and dicks
Plaza theatre is great for cheap week-night movies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 03, 2018, 11:38:09 AM
the sooner they get rid of that theater and noodles and company, the better.  both are trash.  nordstrom coming to the 64112 is a pretty big deal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 05, 2018, 07:41:58 AM
My Dad and I are driving up with my Mom for a business trip, We are dropping Mom off at her work function at 11. Then we will be going to the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, eating someplace and then picking my mom up and coming back to Wichita.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 05, 2018, 07:58:26 AM
negro leagues museum is like 5 secs from AB's, grats on your gigantic and delicious upcoming meat sam, greg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on January 05, 2018, 08:20:56 AM
yes Bryants off Brooklyn is a no-brainer in this instance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 05, 2018, 09:31:01 AM
 Thanks KC peeps!

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 05, 2018, 09:36:05 AM
Q39 in OP did not impress yesterday


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 09:43:32 AM
Was that your first time KCFD at Q39 or just the new location? FWIW I hate the BRGR downtown. The original tastes way better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 05, 2018, 10:28:01 AM
Was that your first time KCFD at Q39 or just the new location? FWIW I hate the BRGR downtown. The original tastes way better.
I feel like BRGR meat is trash. Their sides are yum
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 10:29:35 AM
I could see that. I feel like the original hides the shitty beef taste tho with all the yum yum toppings they put on it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 05, 2018, 11:03:02 AM
Was that your first time KCFD at Q39 or just the new location? FWIW I hate the BRGR downtown. The original tastes way better.
I feel like BRGR meat is trash. Their sides are yum

Hipster fry cup thing tho.

Tried brgr in pv once and it was highly overrated.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 05, 2018, 11:04:13 AM
A burger that relies on its toppings to cover up its taste is not a BRGR worth eating, IMO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 05, 2018, 11:06:10 AM
Was that your first time KCFD at Q39 or just the new location? FWIW I hate the BRGR downtown. The original tastes way better.
I feel like BRGR meat is trash. Their sides are yum

Hipster fry cup thing tho.

Tried brgr in pv once and it was highly overrated.
Truffle tots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 11:08:28 AM
I do find BRGR 10 times better than Blanc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 05, 2018, 11:09:33 AM
you guys judging restaurants based on the containers in which they serve their fries are the real hipster trash
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 05, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
reddit.com/r/wewantplates (http://reddit.com/r/wewantplates)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 05, 2018, 11:30:29 AM
Also if you pass some guy in a red dodge journey going 60 in the middle lane going through overland Park that's my dad....

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 05, 2018, 11:37:22 AM
reddit.com/r/wewantplates (http://reddit.com/r/wewantplates)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 05, 2018, 11:39:07 AM
Also if you pass some guy in a red dodge journey going 60 in the middle lane going through overland Park that's my dad....

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sounds like the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 05, 2018, 11:39:46 AM
Was that your first time KCFD at Q39 or just the new location? FWIW I hate the BRGR downtown. The original tastes way better.
Have been to the real one several times. Love it. Brisket was very dry yesterday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 05, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
you guys judging restaurants based on the containers in which they serve their fries are the real hipster trash
The judging comes from being stingy on fries that you charge ala carte for already by placing them in cups vertically. Hipster and rip off.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 05, 2018, 12:25:43 PM
FTR Phil said q39 was hipster bbq
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 05, 2018, 12:47:49 PM
FTR Phil said q39 was hipster bbq
Stand by that hot take.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on January 05, 2018, 12:59:39 PM
If the Cinemark on the plaza does leave I’m gonna be crushed


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have heard movie operation will remain on plaza, but moving spaces and converting to smaller, niche theater
 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 05, 2018, 01:12:56 PM
plaza 3 is also done, I may have previously reported this but not sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 05, 2018, 01:16:38 PM
honest q: how many non chain restaurants will be left on the plaza? like 2?
also fwiw i am not counting odowds, tfools, and falloon as restaurants
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 01:27:32 PM
Cheesecake F, Brio, PF changs, Chuy's, etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 01:33:26 PM
McCormick and Schmick's and Capital Grill
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
Buca Di Peppo, Fogo, Melting pot, zoes kitchen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 05, 2018, 01:47:09 PM
wacks i think you need to re-read my Q bud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 01:48:59 PM
oh, non.  :lol: My bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 05, 2018, 02:00:17 PM
parkway
oliver
gram
rye
zocalo
hogs head kc
jackstack

bar food-
falloon
tom f’s
o douds
fred p otts


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 02:04:36 PM
Whoa. Never heard of Hogs Head. Gonna have to check that out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 05, 2018, 02:10:34 PM
it’s great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2018, 02:16:17 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 05, 2018, 04:11:19 PM
plaza 3 is also done, I may have previously reported this but not sure
Had not heard and makes me super sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 05, 2018, 04:28:46 PM
Anyone been to Stockhill recently? Been about a year for me.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 06, 2018, 03:00:00 AM
no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 06, 2018, 07:43:18 AM
no

Wait.  Clams, do you mean that no one has been to Stockhill, or that you haven't been there?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 06, 2018, 09:39:50 AM
no

Wait.  Clams, do you mean that no one has been to Stockhill, or that you haven't been there?
I've never been there so there's that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
'clams is correct, I have not been there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2018, 09:57:52 AM
I've never heard of it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 06, 2018, 10:07:20 AM
Ok.  I haven’t either.  Good call, clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 06, 2018, 10:22:45 AM
haven’t been in a while.  not a big fan.  i guess the bar area is ok?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2018, 10:44:43 AM
I just recall going last year and being pretty unimpressed considering the cost. Wasn’t sure if it had gotten better with time


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2018, 12:13:14 PM
Flights to Iceland  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2018, 12:27:28 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 09, 2018, 12:36:41 PM
what're you yucking about clams?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 09, 2018, 12:57:08 PM
Excited!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 09, 2018, 01:00:16 PM
what're you yucking about clams?
I'll fathom a guess. We didn't need a new terminal to get these flights they said we wouldn't get without a new terminal. So they delayed any announcement like this until after the vote.  Then Slyin something or other.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2018, 01:02:37 PM
Been kicking around a euro trip in May anyway, I think I'll extend it another few days and layover in Iceland now, wow so exciting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 09, 2018, 01:08:35 PM
Flights are like $620 round trip and are about 7hrs in length. Having been to Iceland last year, super excited for this, but also a little upset I wasn't planning on doing it this year. This is fun.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 09, 2018, 01:09:54 PM
I checked some random connections like to Oslo and prices are still around 600 to 700.

I'm booking either that first flight or early June....and just checking out Iceland.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 09, 2018, 01:12:02 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/VDMWEazberrtC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2018, 01:41:52 PM
:lol:

welcome to the big time, kansas city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2018, 03:22:38 PM
it only cost us $12M, not a bad deal!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2018, 04:06:58 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 09, 2018, 04:22:39 PM
I checked some random connections like to Oslo and prices are still around 600 to 700.

I'm booking either that first flight or early June....and just checking out Iceland.

Iceland is a fun spot. Enjoy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 09, 2018, 04:55:06 PM
it only cost us $12M, not a bad deal!
That's a capital improvement cost spread over multiple international flights for the 3 plus years remaining in terminal C.... Of airline user fees.

Just soak it in and enjoy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
it only cost us $12M, not a bad deal!

weird i thought the airport was fine as-is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2018, 08:00:44 PM

they would not have spent the $12M for any other reason than to secure this flight

and wow to the tax benefit to our city by capitalizing $12M over, what- 3 years? :lol:
that’s some pretty scrupulous accounting by city hall, i’m impressed :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
it only cost us $12M, not a bad deal!

weird i thought the airport was fine as-is
weird it isn’t but weird we don’t need a billion dollar boondoggle either weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2018, 08:15:43 PM
We all witnessed the fervor the Mayor showed toward Burns & McDonnell when their airport proposal first surfaced.  He and Jolie Justus had met secretly behind closed doors with the Burns & McDonnell team to finalize what he and Jolie thought would be a slam dunk, no bid airport deal.  there was quite an outcry and the project solicited bids.  All the time, the Mayor was selling the Burns & McDonnell’s plan. 

What has changed to get the Mayor now pushing the Edgemoor proposal so hard ???  Edgemoor had won the RFP/Q contest but the Mayor was really never on board.  The answer to the question is: depositions

No one at City Hall wants to be called to do a deposition on the airport fiasco especially the Mayor.  If Edgemoor is pushed out of the picture, there will be depositions or a huge settlement paid by the City with taxpayer money.  Edgemoor has had 50 - 65 employees working in an office at 533 Mexico City, Ave on the airport project for several months. That’s a lot of expense just to be turned away.  There will be a lawsuit or a huge settlement. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 09, 2018, 09:04:44 PM
Juicy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on January 09, 2018, 10:26:50 PM
God dammit. I can’t believe this, but uh, I’m gonna have to side with clams on this one.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2018, 08:45:32 AM
anyone ever been to buffalo mane?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2018, 08:59:27 AM
anyone ever been to buffalo mane?

yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2018, 09:25:34 AM
anyone ever been to buffalo mane?

yes
asked and answered.  thanks, mocat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 10, 2018, 09:27:16 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2018, 09:29:38 AM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 10, 2018, 10:37:40 AM
anyone ever been to buffalo mane?
I quit going once Maggie and Krystal left. Michael is too much and I've not had great luck with anybody else.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2018, 11:55:54 AM
anyone ever been to buffalo mane?

yes
asked and answered.  thanks, mocat.
mocat has pretty great hair, so that is probably enough to go on
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 10, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
Downtowners lunch today has some nice nuggets

* Loews bond sale went better than expected which means more money to invest in hotel
* Three light going to council tomorrow
* UMKC arts campus back on track and possibly bigger
* Scoping out location for another class A office tower west of h&r block
* I670 cap being studied for a park (private investment)
* new Buck bridge getting closer to funded.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2018, 12:57:12 PM
I really don’t want them to toll that bridge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 10, 2018, 01:06:12 PM
I really don’t want them to toll that bridge
Supposedly that's off the table and using PIAC and a renewal of infrastructure sales tax (according to star yesterday).

I was fine with a toll during high demand hours....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2018, 01:17:08 PM
A toll would be horrible at that location
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2018, 02:07:08 PM
tolls are horrible at any location and a slippery slope to go down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 10, 2018, 02:41:54 PM
tolls are horrible at any location and a slippery slope to go down
No doubt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on January 11, 2018, 12:50:51 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 11, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
I truly feel bad for them
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 11, 2018, 01:30:06 PM
I read that the plane will sit at KCI for like 20 hours which is pretty cool and will make you look very big time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 11, 2018, 01:30:26 PM
anyone ever been to buffalo mane?

yes
asked and answered.  thanks, mocat.
mocat has pretty great hair, so that is probably enough to go on

i have been to buffmane twice. the location is nice if i'm in a pinch, but i've got a regular spot elsewhere
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 11, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
I truly feel bad for them

my white midwestern social media indicates approximately everyone within a 3 hr drive of KC will be going to iceland every other weekend  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 11, 2018, 01:31:45 PM
anyone ever been to buffalo mane?

yes
asked and answered.  thanks, mocat.
mocat has pretty great hair, so that is probably enough to go on

i have been to buffmane twice. the location is nice if i'm in a pinch, but i've got a regular spot elsewhere
pray tell
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on January 11, 2018, 01:38:02 PM
The best Kansas City things haircut would be using the airport to get a 'cut from Sergio.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 11, 2018, 02:21:34 PM
https://g.co/kgs/E5iD2Q
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on January 18, 2018, 08:53:50 AM
Slyin' gave it his best shot.

https://www.amazon.com/b?node=17044620011
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 18, 2018, 09:06:00 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 18, 2018, 09:07:58 AM
He's gonna go back and 1 star all that stupid crap he bought now.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 18, 2018, 01:25:40 PM
 :lol:

The list of cities who beat us. My god! lol

https://twitter.com/Johnny11W/status/954059692136902660
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 18, 2018, 03:27:10 PM
we never had a chance
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on January 18, 2018, 03:57:20 PM
Should have built that airport 5 yrs a go.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 18, 2018, 04:38:23 PM
No way Amazon was coming to Missouri with the political landscape of middle Missouri.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 01, 2018, 05:47:29 PM
Not family blog appropriate audio - > https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article197898839.html

 :surprised: :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 02, 2018, 07:04:17 PM
Reddit just posted that a shake shack is on its way to the plaza!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on February 03, 2018, 02:27:46 AM
Not family blog appropriate audio - > https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article197898839.html

 :surprised: :peek:
That was a very impressive pit maneuver.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 04, 2018, 04:17:21 PM
Reddit just posted that a shake shack is on its way to the plaza!
That's big time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 04, 2018, 05:35:28 PM
Reddit just posted that a shake shack is on its way to the plaza!
That's big time.
not happening
and lol @ reddit reporting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 06, 2018, 09:18:02 AM
Reddit just posted that a shake shack is on its way to the plaza!
That's big time.
not happening
and lol @ reddit reporting
Qué?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2018, 09:33:06 AM
crazy that I didn’t believe reddit, for sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 06, 2018, 09:37:08 AM
crazy that I didn’t believe reddit, for sure
Definitely a crap source most of the time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 07, 2018, 09:59:56 AM
Cross post. Going to Tyler the Creator in KC tonight at the Midland. Wanted to know what I should do for parking? Having never been to this venue I also don't know the area very well so all you KCtownies I could use your wisdom.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 10:11:38 AM
If you don't want to pay for parking and don't mind walking in the cold (Less than a mile away), this backstreet behind the quaff bar (washington st or any side street from there) is where we park for events, Greg. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Quaff+Bar+%26+Grill/@39.1020202,-94.5907724,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x87c0f0594a6c4775:0x3d602a33281edb17!8m2!3d39.1020161!4d-94.5885837

It will probably be $15 event parking if you decide on a garage.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 10:23:53 AM
There is almost always street parking even on Baltimore maybe north a block at like 11th for free...no meters after 6.

I'd start on that block and work west until you didn't something....most likely you will find something within 3 blocks of Midland.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 07, 2018, 11:03:58 AM
Parking downtown is a shitshow greg, good luck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 11:04:47 AM
Very true
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 11:07:40 AM
There is almost always street parking even on Baltimore maybe north a block at like 11th for free...no meters after 6.

I'd start on that block and work west until you didn't something....most likely you will find something within 3 blocks of Midland.
During a concert?  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2018, 11:14:45 AM
Park down by the freighthouse/union station and hop on the streetcar choo choo!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 07, 2018, 11:15:53 AM
yeah you will find something on the street.

but isn't the pnl garage like $2 for overnight?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 11:16:41 AM
Not for event parking, unless you lie to them, but sometimes they figure it out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2018, 11:25:12 AM
Quote
The Midland features flexible seating configurations from standing to theatre-style to full banquet seating, with live-show capacity ranging from 1300-3000.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 07, 2018, 11:26:24 AM
park on the plaza unless you want your car stolen and uber from there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 11:34:47 AM
There is almost always street parking even on Baltimore maybe north a block at like 11th for free...no meters after 6.

I'd start on that block and work west until you didn't something....most likely you will find something within 3 blocks of Midland.
During a concert? 
Yes. Easily.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 11:41:51 AM
park on the plaza unless you want your car stolen and uber from there
Streetcar from there in a few years :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
Phil, you have parking you pay for. I lived in the Baltimore lofts. Walked by the Midland daily. If he parks for free within 3 blocks of there during a popular concert, I'll eat my own hand.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 07, 2018, 11:53:42 AM
wacky don't do it bud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
Phil, you have parking you pay for. I lived in the Baltimore lofts. Walked by the Midland daily. If he parks for free within 3 blocks of there during a popular concert, I'll eat my own hand.
Seems extreme
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 07, 2018, 12:03:09 PM
if you're scared of finding parking downtown (you shouldn't be), take the streetcar.  plenty of street parking close to Main in the X-roads and rivermarket.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 07, 2018, 12:03:39 PM
my car window got smashed in last night.  this city is a hell hole.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 12:07:54 PM
if you're scared of finding parking downtown (you shouldn't be), take the streetcar.  plenty of street parking close to Main in the X-roads and rivermarket.
80% of parking downtown is either reserved or paid parking. So ya, I would definitely give other areas a shot during a concert. Please see my initial post, Greg. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 12:08:25 PM
my car window got smashed in last night.  this city is a hell hole.
:frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 12:46:08 PM


if you're scared of finding parking downtown (you shouldn't be), take the streetcar.  plenty of street parking close to Main in the X-roads and rivermarket.
80% of parking downtown is either reserved or paid parking. So ya, I would definitely give other areas a shot during a concert. Please see my initial post, Greg. :thumbs:

Don't have to feed meters after 6pm or on weekends. ...and a ton of on street parking doesn't even have meters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 07, 2018, 01:11:13 PM
80% of parking downtown is either reserved or paid parking.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 01:27:04 PM


if you're scared of finding parking downtown (you shouldn't be), take the streetcar.  plenty of street parking close to Main in the X-roads and rivermarket.
80% of parking downtown is either reserved or paid parking. So ya, I would definitely give other areas a shot during a concert. Please see my initial post, Greg. :thumbs:

Don't have to feed meters after 6pm or on weekends. ...and a ton of on street parking doesn't even have meters.
I'm well aware of how it works down there, Phil. He's driving in from MHK. Concert starts at 7:30. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 01:32:34 PM
80% of parking downtown is either reserved or paid parking.

 :lol:
You thought it was $2 parking, N00b. Kick rocks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
Tyler, the creator of parking armageddon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 07, 2018, 01:35:09 PM
80% of parking downtown is either reserved or paid parking.

 :lol:
You thought it was $2 parking, N00b. Kick rocks.

it is though.
i'm not sure what reserved or paid parking has anything to do with Greg, since he will park for free on any street he chooses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 01:36:24 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 01:38:54 PM
I mean, I know you pak down there like 5 days a week, mocat, but i'm pretty sure you have reserved parking with your work if you do. Same goes for phil and his condo, but here you are trying to tell someone who had to look for free parking down there for 4 years that they're wrong.  :lol: It gets harder with events. That's why I was telling him to save some time and park on Washington, because the amatuer show down there that goes on with out of towners isn't worth the mess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 07, 2018, 01:39:31 PM
just shell out a few bucks for garage parking.  don't make this more complicated than it needs to be
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 07, 2018, 01:44:02 PM
just shell out a few bucks for garage parking.  don't make this more complicated than it needs to be

or park on any street for free and walk a couple blocks. Greg's call
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on February 07, 2018, 01:44:45 PM
Greg, you better just cancel this whole ordeal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2018, 01:46:06 PM
Greg, sometimes gE gets beat out by google.  :frown:

You'll be fine.

http://www.arvestbanktheatre.com/venue-info/directions

(http://aeglive-midlandkc.s3.amazonaws.com/img/parking.gif)

http://www.powerandlightdistrict.com/documents/kcpl_map_v8.pdf

Quote
All Power & Light District garages have $2 parking after 5pm
Monday –Friday, all day Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 01:49:18 PM
Greg, sometimes gE gets beat out by google.  :frown:

You'll be fine.

http://www.arvestbanktheatre.com/venue-info/directions

(http://aeglive-midlandkc.s3.amazonaws.com/img/parking.gif)

http://www.powerandlightdistrict.com/documents/kcpl_map_v8.pdf

Quote
All Power & Light District garages have $2 parking after 5pm
Monday –Friday, all day Saturday and Sunday.
To be fair to wacky cordish doesn't abide by their own site.  If you park in their garage and they ask you where you are going and you say whatever event, they charge you event parking.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 01:50:51 PM
yes, this. That's why you always wear a big ass coat and take off team gear when parking (Big 12). Just make sure not to wear a a creator shirt.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 01:54:20 PM
Holy crap, Greg! It's Wednesday! $1ish Bud Lights at bar Louie tonight!  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 07, 2018, 01:54:53 PM
park on the plaza unless you want your car stolen and uber from there
My car isn't worth stealing clams...

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on February 07, 2018, 01:56:03 PM
greg's anxiety about parking has to be worse than before he asked the question
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 07, 2018, 01:57:33 PM
Greg, sometimes gE gets beat out by google.  :frown:

You'll be fine.

http://www.arvestbanktheatre.com/venue-info/directions

(http://aeglive-midlandkc.s3.amazonaws.com/img/parking.gif)

http://www.powerandlightdistrict.com/documents/kcpl_map_v8.pdf

Quote
All Power & Light District garages have $2 parking after 5pm
Monday –Friday, all day Saturday and Sunday.
Saw this earlier after initial Google search will probs do this if it isn't full.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 07, 2018, 01:58:33 PM
Holy crap, Greg! It's Wednesday! $1ish Bud Lights at bar Louie tonight!  :love:
Holy cow too bad I'm still a youngblood

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2018, 01:58:58 PM
If you park in their garage and they ask you where you are going and you say whatever event, they charge you event parking.

What a tight operation.  Is a show attended by up to 1300-3000 people an event?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2018, 01:59:56 PM
Saw this earlier after initial Google search will probs do this if it isn't full.

Godspeed, Greg.  Maybe get some of the numbers of local gE'rs there in case you find yourself in trouble in the big city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 07, 2018, 02:00:23 PM
Greg, you better just cancel this whole ordeal.
No! these tickets are rough ridin' free from the KSDB giveaway

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 02:01:28 PM
It really is amazing how much more of a pompous ass Seattle has turned Trim into. Especially since he lived most of his adult life in Wichita.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 07, 2018, 02:01:50 PM
just uber.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
No! these tickets are rough ridin' free from the KSDB giveaway

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on February 07, 2018, 02:03:59 PM
classic greg

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 07, 2018, 02:04:02 PM
Lil bro is also a huge fan of Tyler the Creator, he has two tests tomorrow so I will be driving both ways and skipping morning class probs.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 07, 2018, 02:13:51 PM
If you park in their garage and they ask you where you are going and you say whatever event, they charge you event parking.

What a tight operation.  Is a show attended by up to 1300-3000 people an event?

no, of course not. that's for sprint center events
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 02:16:43 PM
 :facepalm: JFC, you're wrong, Mocat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 02:17:53 PM
have fun, Greg.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 07, 2018, 03:28:08 PM
#1Parker
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 03:37:33 PM


If you park in their garage and they ask you where you are going and you say whatever event, they charge you event parking.

What a tight operation.  Is a show attended by up to 1300-3000 people an event?

Ironclad controls they have. They are hit/miss if they implement prepay parking for just a Midland event...the garage next to midland only charges event rates when they open in evenings but that wasn't in the scope of the googled map you posted.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 07, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
Very true. Definitely comes down to the event. They do it all the time for buzz and the rock events. Tylor the Creator is pretty popular, so I assume they'll charge tonight, but whatever. The horse has been beaten.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 05:09:22 PM
Update from the ground of Tyler the Creator parking watch 2018.

Line is around the corner. People are cold but in good spirits. Parking plentiful on the street.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2018, 06:58:03 PM
I can confirm Greg is parked and in line.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2018, 07:18:09 PM
I can confirm Greg is parked and in line.

That's the best news I've heard all day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 08, 2018, 11:02:11 AM
my car window got smashed in last night.  this city is a hell hole.

were you at the flea market?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 08, 2018, 04:02:04 PM
my car window got smashed in last night.  this city is a hell hole.

were you at the flea market?
indeed. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 08, 2018, 04:07:01 PM
thats awful. sorry dlew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 08, 2018, 04:22:36 PM
my car window got smashed in last night.  this city is a hell hole.

were you at the flea market?
indeed.

i didn't even know we were neighbors  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 08, 2018, 04:27:19 PM
westport is a shithole
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 04:30:44 PM
Missouri side. SMDH.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 04:38:26 PM
Not sure how many votes come out, but I just saw this on twitter, and I have no idea what it means, but the star RT'd it.

https://twitter.com/DDonovanKCStar/status/961729110191083520
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 04:39:51 PM
I guess this is the guy to follow

https://twitter.com/st_vockrodt/with_replies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2018, 04:41:19 PM
https://twitter.com/st_vockrodt/status/961731105463422982

https://twitter.com/st_vockrodt/status/961731411261771777
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2018, 05:46:16 PM
Vote passed....let's get to building a new airport fellas!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on February 08, 2018, 10:12:24 PM
Loar is the absolute worst


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2018, 10:25:55 PM
Loar is the absolute worst


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Back off! Our job is really hard!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 14, 2018, 02:23:42 PM
this dickhead’s priorities are so screwed up
http://amp.kansascity.com/news/local/article199910359.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 14, 2018, 02:44:41 PM
How does kcpd budget compare to other PD it size and the size of this city?  I don't know that, be interesting to see.

I'm all for a tax to get PD and FD more money. ...we passed a half cent sales tax a few years ago to increase their funding but appears it's not enough.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 14, 2018, 02:53:08 PM
the public brow beating coming from slyin, who cries like a 2 year old when anyone questions his funding requests, just too much of a hypocrite
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 14, 2018, 02:59:50 PM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 14, 2018, 03:19:16 PM
 :lol: Wrong!

https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/963883696574124033
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 14, 2018, 03:21:30 PM
Other interesting PD funding facts

2007-2008 budget (start of funkhouser reign) -$200MM
2010-2011 budget (last funkhouser budget) - $181MM
2018-2019 budget - $254MM - +40% PD funding under sylin from PD hating funk.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 14, 2018, 03:23:21 PM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

strawmen are fun.  as much fun as tossing slyin’s salad? who knows
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 14, 2018, 03:24:32 PM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

strawmen are fun.  as much fun as tossing slyin’s salad? who knows
How much more do they needed? I'll vote for that tax increase!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 14, 2018, 03:28:38 PM
so...
you see no hypocrisy. got it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2018, 04:10:52 PM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

those are both smaller cities than KCMO, both in population and (maybe more importantly?) sq mileage

kcmo 481k / 315 sq miles
atlanta 472k / 133 sq miles
minneapolis 413k / 54 sq miles
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 14, 2018, 05:01:03 PM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

those are both smaller cities than KCMO, both in population and (maybe more importantly?) sq mileage

kcmo 481k / 315 sq miles
atlanta 472k / 133 sq miles
minneapolis 413k / 54 sq miles

Good point...although not sure the miles of sparsely populated northland really take that many resources.  Those were just a couple metros bigger than us that stood out to me with significantly smaller budgets on this graphic (then went and found a more recent number for MPLS):

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/08/07/how-much-do-u-s-cities-spend-every-year-on-policing-infographic/#53b96ebee7b7

What other cities could we use to compare? 

Here is another data point...PD officers (not support staff) per 10k population.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/police-officers-per-capita-rates-employment-for-city-departments.html

KC comes in at 28.3...pretty high up the list.  Atlanta has ~300 more total officers and more per capita than we do...for less money.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 14, 2018, 05:01:30 PM
so...
you see no hypocrisy. got it.

in what? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 15, 2018, 08:55:13 AM
So... anything y'all suggest for the annual Big 12 tourney trip?

(Probs doesn't matter as we'll just be wasted by noon every day and never go anywhere or eat at any of the places we wanted and just have an Airbnb full of Whopper bar and Sonic leftovers, but still.)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on February 15, 2018, 09:00:23 AM
So... anything y'all suggest for the annual Big 12 tourney trip?

(Probs doesn't matter as we'll just be wasted by noon every day and never go anywhere or eat at any of the places we wanted and just have an Airbnb full of Whopper bar and Sonic leftovers, but still.)

Go order Mission Taco to go and walk across the street to eat it at Double Shift.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 15, 2018, 09:01:29 AM
Where do you guys stay, shooter?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 15, 2018, 09:02:35 AM
Get the mini corn dogs at ruins pub
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 15, 2018, 09:13:28 AM
So... anything y'all suggest for the annual Big 12 tourney trip?

(Probs doesn't matter as we'll just be wasted by noon every day and never go anywhere or eat at any of the places we wanted and just have an Airbnb full of Whopper bar and Sonic leftovers, but still.)

Go order Mission Taco to go and walk across the street to eat it at Double Shift.
To make this idea even greater...grab a bike share at 13th and grand and take it to 18th and oak stop...it's all downhill and with limited time between sessions, well worth to get down there asap.

Brewery emperial also has solid food.

New Joe's KC in p&l should be open but that will be a complete shitshow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 15, 2018, 09:17:50 AM
So... anything y'all suggest for the annual Big 12 tourney trip?

(Probs doesn't matter as we'll just be wasted by noon every day and never go anywhere or eat at any of the places we wanted and just have an Airbnb full of Whopper bar and Sonic leftovers, but still.)

Go order Mission Taco to go and walk across the street to eat it at Double Shift.
To make this idea even greater...grab a bike share at 13th and grand and take it to 18th and oak stop...it's all downhill and with limited time between sessions, well worth to get down there asap.

Brewery emperial also has solid food.

New Joe's KC in p&l should be open but that will be a complete shitshow.

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 15, 2018, 09:18:53 AM
Don't drink and drive on bikes, shooter. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 15, 2018, 09:23:32 AM
i've gotta say (again) those korean wings at boulevard tavern are like bitb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 15, 2018, 09:27:20 AM
i've gotta say (again) those korean wings at boulevard tavern are like bitb
They are very good. Great brunch spot for the Phillips.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 15, 2018, 09:49:38 AM
Don't drink and drive on bikes, shooter. Sheesh.

@nicname would agree this isn't the best idea for me.

And we've stayed downtown, have stayed around the plaza a few times, but have stayed in/around Westport the last few years, and will be again this year. Spend the mornings there, head to PnL for the day, either stay there most of the night, end up going straight to bed from there, or find something to stick our nose in somewhere along the way back to the place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 15, 2018, 10:00:24 AM
Running list of things to do/places to eat that we'll probably be way too drunk to do.

mhkpasa - Mission Taco to go and walk across the street to eat it at Double Shift
lib^7 - mini corn dogs at ruins pub
Phil Titola - grab a bike share at 13th and grand and take it to 18th and oak stop. Brewery emperial also has solid food, Joe's KC if not a crap show
mocat - korean wings at boulevard tavern
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 15, 2018, 10:10:08 AM
i also like mhkpasa's suggesto
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 15, 2018, 10:36:18 AM
Mine is the best idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 15, 2018, 12:45:36 PM
RIDE
THE
STREETCAR
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on February 15, 2018, 12:47:06 PM
Minsky’s Prime Cut calzone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 15, 2018, 01:01:56 PM
Skip the games and just get sf at all the delish breweries....two new ones just opened (I think strange days is now open...but should be for big 12 at least)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on February 15, 2018, 02:09:13 PM
Has anyone tried Casual Animal yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 15, 2018, 02:13:19 PM
Anyone tried Black Dirt yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 15, 2018, 02:14:26 PM
Is that close to mud&sticks?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 15, 2018, 02:33:43 PM
Has anyone tried Casual Animal yet?
Hoping this weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on February 15, 2018, 02:41:03 PM
Has anyone tried Casual Animal yet?
Hoping this weekend.

Same :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 15, 2018, 05:50:13 PM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

those are both smaller cities than KCMO, both in population and (maybe more importantly?) sq mileage

kcmo 481k / 315 sq miles
atlanta 472k / 133 sq miles
minneapolis 413k / 54 sq miles

how
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

those are both smaller cities than KCMO, both in population and (maybe more importantly?) sq mileage

kcmo 481k / 315 sq miles
atlanta 472k / 133 sq miles
minneapolis 413k / 54 sq miles

Good point...although not sure the miles of sparsely populated northland really take that many resources.  Those were just a couple metros bigger than us that stood out to me with significantly smaller budgets on this graphic (then went and found a more recent number for MPLS):

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/08/07/how-much-do-u-s-cities-spend-every-year-on-policing-infographic/#53b96ebee7b7

What other cities could we use to compare? 

Here is another data point...PD officers (not support staff) per 10k population.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/police-officers-per-capita-rates-employment-for-city-departments.html

KC comes in at 28.3...pretty high up the list.  Atlanta has ~300 more total officers and more per capita than we do...for less money.



how dumb are you two?  serious questions demand serious answers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 15, 2018, 05:51:22 PM
I wish I spoke fluent 'clam-speak.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 15, 2018, 06:47:54 PM
any chance we trust the one person who’s job it is to know this stuff, to know this stuff?
nope!  let’s just go by square miles.  better idea- let’s go by population. 


i mean, it seriously boggles the mind that those are the data points that you guys landed on.  I got an irl laugh out of it at least
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 15, 2018, 06:53:24 PM
any chance we trust the one person who’s job it is to know this stuff, to know this stuff?
nope!  let’s just go by square miles.  better idea- let’s go by population. 


i mean, it seriously boggles the mind that those are the data points that you guys landed on.  I got an irl laugh out of it at least

Chief Smith who has only been in the KCPD....that is the only data point you want to use as to whether or not KCPD has enough budget? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 15, 2018, 07:16:00 PM
i’d take his opinion over yours, since - you know, it’s his job
of course, your job is to defend slyin james and you’re great at it

one way we could get more cops on the beat is to relieve slyin of his two cops that escort him to diebles on a weekly basis. 

just so odd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 15, 2018, 07:42:00 PM
i’d take his opinion over yours, since - you know, it’s his job
of course, your job is to defend slyin james and you’re great at it

one way we could get more cops on the beat is to relieve slyin of his two cops that escort him to diebles on a weekly basis. 

just so odd

We could get a lot more cops on the street than that if the FOP would work with the city on pensions and chief would look for other efficiencies (also his job), compare your police force to other comparable departments (also his job)....but that is a lot harder than just demanding more money without any local accountability..but let's not forget PD funding has increased under Slyin' big time after Funkhouser decimated it.

Maybe...just maybe...it's not a funding problem at KCPD?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 15, 2018, 07:46:10 PM
what ever it takes to defend slyin
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 15, 2018, 07:54:18 PM
S.O.E.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on February 16, 2018, 08:05:33 AM
S.O.E.
Would make an amazing chest tattoo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 09:44:55 AM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

those are both smaller cities than KCMO, both in population and (maybe more importantly?) sq mileage

kcmo 481k / 315 sq miles
atlanta 472k / 133 sq miles
minneapolis 413k / 54 sq miles

how

i have absolutely zero #agenda here, i was just commenting on phil's comparison cities. i would think population and amount of physical area that a PD has to patrol are factors in its budget, but who knows? i just like geography stats, man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 10:50:12 AM
also, p jealous of minneapolis' density.

MORE GEONERD STATS INCOMING

there are 307 us cities with population >100k. obviously in general the cities on the coasts have greater density, so i thought it might be interesting to compare non-coastal cities.
there are approximately 162 non-coastal >100k cities.

density ranking of non-coastal us cities (overall rank in parentheses):

1. (12) Chicago 11,900/sq mi
2. (32) Minneapolis 7660/sq mi
3. (49) Buffalo 6359/sq mi
4. (52) Milwaukee 6186/sq mi
5. (57) St. Paul 5815/sq mi
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134. (272) Kansas City 1528/sq mi
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 16, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
Yeah, I had no idea Minneapolis was that tiny in area
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 16, 2018, 10:52:22 AM
Our density is trash due to the overzealous expansion of KCMO up north....even in the urban core our density is pretty sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 16, 2018, 10:59:34 AM
I'm pretty comfortable with kc's density
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 16, 2018, 11:03:07 AM
I'm pretty comfortable with kc's density
Hurts the ability to expand transit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 11:08:27 AM
I'm pretty comfortable with kc's density
Hurts the ability to expand transit.

yeah people are always slobbing on minneapolis transit's knob, and they consistently rank #1 or #2 in fittest US cities (despite negative one million degree temperatures year round). now it makes more sense to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 16, 2018, 11:14:05 AM
I'm pretty comfortable with kc's density
Hurts the ability to expand transit.

I understand that, but apartments are gross
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 16, 2018, 11:32:03 AM
I'm pretty comfortable with kc's density
Hurts the ability to expand transit.

I understand that, but apartments are gross
Sexy high-rises even?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 11:37:07 AM
I'm pretty comfortable with kc's density
Hurts the ability to expand transit.

I understand that, but apartments are gross

go play around with satellite view in milwaukee. it's like a billion south hyde parks. v few apartments
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Catosaurus on February 16, 2018, 02:32:10 PM
I'm pretty comfortable with kc's density
Hurts the ability to expand transit.

I understand that, but apartments are gross

go play around with satellite view in milwaukee. it's like a billion south hyde parks. v few apartments

This. If only we hadn't torn down half the houses in the city because they were empty for like 7 months.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2018, 02:47:11 PM
I'm pretty comfortable with kc's density
Hurts the ability to expand transit.

I understand that, but apartments are gross

go play around with satellite view in milwaukee. it's like a billion south hyde parks. v few apartments


I lived there for a while, loved every minute of it.  However, it’s not really a fair comparison because they can only expand in one direction because of the lake...and because of the lake, the downtown area is anchored to high value real estate with lots of cool stuff that gets a big return on investment and is guaranteed to stay desirable as long as the lake is there.  So, “near down town” stuff in Milwaukee is closer to cool stuff than “near downtown stuff” in KC. 

You must also factor in that Wisconsin is awesome, and KS/MO less awesome.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 27, 2018, 07:58:57 PM
I'm only posting this losery sly tweet bc somebody responded with this amaze gif

https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/968592383976919041

https://twitter.com/sh0rtyb1ghead/status/968661176388374529
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 27, 2018, 08:00:56 PM
that's great lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 27, 2018, 08:32:04 PM
"Delta leaves world's busiest airport after tweet from Kansas mayor"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2018, 11:19:11 PM
funny shooting last night outside of parkway social
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 02, 2018, 08:30:54 AM
Big 12 in less than a week. Best burger in town? Is there a Kites in KC?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2018, 08:55:45 AM
Big 12 in less than a week. Best burger in town? Is there a Kites in KC?
Tannin has a great one but it's not much of a tournament atmosphere.  Howard's is good and just south of sprint center and fans won't know about it. Brewery emperial burger is pretty good. Anton's I thought had a great one but I haven't had it in a long time.

Brgr burger sucks...don't go there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2018, 08:56:00 AM
funny shooting last night outside of parkway social
Date one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 02, 2018, 08:57:11 AM
i like brgr a lot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 08:59:01 AM
Big 12 in less than a week. Best burger in town? Is there a Kites in KC?
Answer is beer kitchen and you'll be staying down the street from there so enjoy.

This is my crap:

Quote
BRAVO*
crispy prosciutto, maytag blue cheese, fontina, sun-dried tomato
relish, baby arugula & roasted garlic aioli on brioche bun 11½
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2018, 09:49:16 AM
i like brgr a lot
Their sides are good but their meat has no flavor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 09:56:23 AM
The original BRGR off 83rd is the tits. The downtown one is not as good. So that would make sense with your take.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2018, 10:50:39 AM
The original BRGR off 83rd is the tits. The downtown one is not as good. So that would make sense with your take.
Weird they wouldn't source their meat the same....being a chain and all.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 11:01:16 AM
I'm just saying i've always enjoyed my experience more at 83rd st. I thought they were awesome before they expanded downtown and I was never impressed with that lcoation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 02, 2018, 11:07:59 AM
i'm not a meat purist.  they had good toppings on it. 

the burger part is pretty much just a texture thing for me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2018, 11:21:52 AM
Brgr sucks but I've only been to 83rd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 02, 2018, 11:39:27 AM
i'm not a meat purist.  they had good toppings on it. 

the burger part is pretty much just a texture thing for me.
Heathen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 02, 2018, 11:44:57 AM
i'm not a meat purist.  they had good toppings on it. 

the burger part is pretty much just a texture thing for me.
Heathen
admittedly, i'm not a big burger guy fwiw
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 02, 2018, 11:47:37 AM
Burgers only for the toppings, booze only for the inebriation, it's no wonder you prefer Jose Pepper's to Jalepenos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 02, 2018, 11:48:43 AM
how dare you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 11:51:40 AM
I think toppings are a pretty big part of the game as well, dlew. Farmhouse puts a bacon cream cheese aoli on their breakfast burger and it's freaking amazing!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 02, 2018, 11:53:19 AM
i'm just saying that unless you're getting a burger with no toppings, it's hard to appreciate the subtle flavor nuances of ground beef.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2018, 11:55:10 AM
I think toppings are a pretty big part of the game as well, dlew. Farmhouse puts a bacon cream cheese aoli on their breakfast burger and it's freaking amazing!

That probably adds up to about 15 crab rangoons, calorie-wise.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 11:55:30 AM
This why I don't understand the Max's or town topic hype. I might as well go to Sonic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 11:56:09 AM
I think toppings are a pretty big part of the game as well, dlew. Farmhouse puts a bacon cream cheese aoli on their breakfast burger and it's freaking amazing!

That probably adds up to about 15 crab rangoons, calorie-wise.
Man, I wish. :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 02, 2018, 12:02:40 PM
It's not that toppings can't add or accentuate, but when they are the main attraction, it's a bad burger, IMO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2018, 12:45:45 PM
Toppings, especially fancy ones, are just an attempt to pass off subpar beef
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2018, 12:46:47 PM
Real burgerheads go plain with cheese #burgpurist
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2018, 12:48:50 PM
If you want toppings go have a salad and leave the burger game to the professionals
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 12:56:44 PM
My dad was a cattle buyer when I was growing up, so I know and understand what good beef is, but some of you are overthinking this. Toppings can add so much to the burger experience.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
I'm not really a beef flavor snob...brgr is the only place I've really noted that a didn't like the meat ...dunno.

Their truffle tots though are the bomb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2018, 01:06:18 PM
This steak is good, but it really needs cucumber-jalapeño aloli, onion straws, kelp, and (2) locally sourced hard boiled pigeon eggs 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 02, 2018, 01:26:26 PM
This steak is good, but it really needs cucumber-jalapeño aloli, onion straws, kelp, and (2) locally sourced hard boiled pigeon eggs
look at lib trying to compare ground beef to a steak

and this bozo has the nerve to call himself a burger purist  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 02, 2018, 01:28:50 PM
This why I don't understand the Max's or town topic hype. I might as well go to Sonic.

There you go again wacks you ol wacky wackster!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2018, 01:30:17 PM
This steak is good, but it really needs cucumber-jalapeño aloli, onion straws, kelp, and (2) locally sourced hard boiled pigeon eggs
look at lib trying to compare ground beef to a steak

and this bozo has the nerve to call himself a burger purist  :lol:
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2018, 02:07:56 PM
The best brgr is at jazzoo....they make one of their regular burgs smaller and thinner and its way better....

I'm personally more a thin party guy...and make it a double...more crispy burg parts. Thick burgs are MF meatloaf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2018, 02:09:25 PM
Btw shooter....corvino has a delish delish burg ....have to get it at the bar I think....it's a fancy place but after 10pm it becomes more casual....and perfect burg ordering time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 02, 2018, 04:21:10 PM
Think I settled on Whopper bar.

Thanks for the input, though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2018, 04:35:31 PM
Think I settled on Whopper bar.

Thanks for the input, though.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2018, 04:47:26 PM
Flame broiled
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on March 02, 2018, 05:17:24 PM
Babymetal at the Uptown? How?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on March 02, 2018, 05:19:52 PM
I guess they aren't #viral anymore
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 06, 2018, 09:57:14 AM
48 hours from now I'll be enjoying the local KC eats and drinks at places like Whopper Bar and Bar Louie.

:excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on March 06, 2018, 10:29:52 AM
I guess they aren't #viral anymore
Saw them in Chicago. very :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on March 06, 2018, 12:46:31 PM
think i read somewhere that bar louie has really cheap beer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 06, 2018, 01:18:17 PM
 :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2018, 04:11:05 PM
Quote
The case that prompted the lawsuit was just one of four times Jungerman, 79, had been investigated for either shooting or detaining trespassers with a weapon in the past three decades.

In 1990, Jungerman was arrested for holding juveniles at gunpoint he found fishing in his pond. Just a month after the shooting of the homeless men at his business in 2012, Jungerman shot another inspected intruder. No charges were filed.

Then in 2016, Jungerman was charged with Armed Criminal Infraction and Felony Burglary for intimidating a tenant with a weapon for alleged offenses in Nevada, Mo.


this guy just cannot help himself from shooting people

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article204381299.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article204381299.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 09, 2018, 07:58:08 PM
It's almost comical at this point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 11, 2018, 12:02:02 PM
Update on the stay:

Day one, Airbnb host stole all my stuff. Work bag, key fob to my truck, etc.
Day two, have the windows of my truck bashed in and my truck ransacked
Day three, window repaired but tire gets blown out by the workers.

Been a good trip so far.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 11, 2018, 12:23:37 PM
WHOA what on earth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on March 11, 2018, 12:32:40 PM
Lol no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 11, 2018, 12:39:35 PM
Window*

Will give a more detailed version of it all when I’m done traveling home.

It’s absurd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Yikes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 11, 2018, 01:39:06 PM
God damn waldo  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 11, 2018, 02:20:51 PM
That's KCMO for ya :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 11, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
hopefully you got to see the cool streetcar though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 11, 2018, 02:42:26 PM
I don't understand the airbnb part
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 11, 2018, 02:54:09 PM
I don't understand the airbnb part

I met the owner and checked in, left my stuff to go out, and my crap is gone when we get back in later that night. At that point, only myself and the owner have a key to get in right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2018, 03:00:51 PM
I don't understand the airbnb part

I met the owner and checked in, left my stuff to go out, and my crap is gone when we get back in later that night. At that point, only myself and the owner have a key to get in right?

Shooter, you may be traveling or in a spot where it's hard to post, but it seems you're not much of a storyteller.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 11, 2018, 03:12:44 PM
I haven’t even told a story. Will try to post later when I can.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2018, 03:27:28 PM
I'm interested in the piece that would go between:

I met the owner and checked in, left my stuff to go out, and my crap is gone when we get back in later that night.

and:

At that point, only myself and the owner have a key to get in right?

Confrontation?  Did you stay there?  How were things left?  What did owner say that is making key possession an issue?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 11, 2018, 03:40:44 PM
Cats won Thursday though!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2018, 03:42:57 PM
I think I would have gone to the pet store and set about 30 mice free.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on March 12, 2018, 06:45:46 AM
Well? WTH happened?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on March 12, 2018, 03:23:06 PM
Shooter get murdered before he got out of that hell hole?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 12, 2018, 03:52:05 PM
Shooter get murdered before he got out of that hell hole?
Someone got him before he snitched it appears
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
i don't get why an airbnb host would steal from a guest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on March 12, 2018, 04:22:54 PM
i don't get why an airbnb host would steal from a guest.

Maybe he left his work bag in his truck and it was stolen  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 12, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
i don't get why an airbnb host would steal from a guest.
I'm pretty paranoid about it when I stay in one. In hotels you have a safe, at least.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2018, 04:25:20 PM
i don't get why an airbnb host would steal from a guest.

Maybe he left his work bag in his truck and it was stolen  :dunno:

the key fob tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 12, 2018, 04:29:46 PM
Staying in an AirBNB seems like the worst thing ever except for hosting AirBNB guests at your home which would be even worse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 12, 2018, 04:30:45 PM
Staying in an AirBNB seems like the worst thing ever except for hosting AirBNB guests at your home which would be even worse.
That reminds me.  I'm coming up to chicago at the end of the month and need a place to crash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 12, 2018, 04:32:58 PM
Staying in an AirBNB seems like the worst thing ever except for hosting AirBNB guests at your home which would be even worse.
That reminds me.  I'm coming up to chicago at the end of the month and need a place to crash.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 12, 2018, 04:39:03 PM
ya i’d never do the airbnb thing and don’t understand the appeal outside of places that just don’t have hotels
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2018, 04:39:25 PM
Staying in an AirBNB seems like the worst thing ever except for hosting AirBNB guests at your home which would be even worse.

Everyone I know who has used AirBNB says it's great. Seems kind of weird to me, though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
it is great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 12, 2018, 05:08:20 PM
what is the appeal of it, why is it great?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 12, 2018, 05:12:13 PM
With a hotel, you pretty much know what you're getting. Why roll the dice on some stranger's apartment? Is it frequently a lot cheaper?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on March 12, 2018, 06:00:24 PM
Airbnb worked for me and the buds in Nashville. Three bedroom house for $250 a night versus a hotel room for $300+. So, yes, savings plus comfort. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 12, 2018, 06:15:53 PM
Remember when people thought it was weird to pay some stranger to drive them around in their personal vehicle
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 12, 2018, 06:23:07 PM
Remember when people thought it was weird to pay some stranger to drive them around in their personal vehicle

no I don’t.  people have been paying others for rides since cars began.

cabs are dirty and disgusting
cabbies are as well

people treat their personal vehicles much better than the cabs they drive


quality hotels are held to a standard that airbnbs aren’t
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on March 12, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
air bnb competes with bottom tier hotels and vrbo.com types
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 12, 2018, 06:31:55 PM
Only use airbnb with a group and international.....seems weird domestically.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2018, 06:42:52 PM
It's nice to get a whole house/apt if you have a bunch of people and/or want to do some cooking. There are plenty of photos and reviews to judge a place. It's often less expensive than a hotel, and you can often get prime locations where the hotels are prohibitively expensive. I have honestly never heard anyone say anything negative until just now itt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 12, 2018, 06:59:25 PM
Only use airbnb with a group and international.....seems weird domestically.

Wut
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 12, 2018, 07:00:16 PM
Only use airbnb with a group and international.....seems weird domestically.

Wut

I didn't claim it makes sense.....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2018, 07:14:03 PM
It's nice to get a whole house/apt if you have a bunch of people and/or want to do some cooking. There are plenty of photos and reviews to judge a place. It's often less expensive than a hotel, and you can often get prime locations where the hotels are prohibitively expensive. I have honestly never heard anyone say anything negative until just now itt
Momo, what the f is wrong with these people??

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 12, 2018, 07:14:45 PM
“airbnb, so that poor people can go on vacation too”
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
It's nice to get a whole house/apt if you have a bunch of people and/or want to do some cooking. There are plenty of photos and reviews to judge a place. It's often less expensive than a hotel, and you can often get prime locations where the hotels are prohibitively expensive. I have honestly never heard anyone say anything negative until just now itt
Momo, what the f is wrong with these people??

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2018, 07:20:45 PM
There are some super sexy steals on AirBNB.

*Posted from my AirBNB right now in NOLA.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180313/bdce66895b62aa5e8863b2392871183a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 12, 2018, 07:38:33 PM
There are some super sexy steals on AirBNB.

*Posted from my AirBNB right now in NOLA.
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2018, 07:40:34 PM
Nailed it

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 12, 2018, 07:44:57 PM
that's from a Hyatt renovated about 2005
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on March 12, 2018, 08:26:42 PM
All the shampoo, conditioner and body wash bottles  :Yuck:
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2018, 10:28:41 PM
I have used VRBO to rent condos in resort locations. Did this in Keystone and Gulf Shores and both were amazing.  They were places that are used primarily as rentals and not some dude’s home with his crap in it.

I will continue to use them in places like that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 13, 2018, 08:29:22 AM
Only times i've used Airbnb is in a big giant group where we rent a house with a lot of bedrooms. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 13, 2018, 10:29:55 AM
My bad, guys. Working with Airbnb, my work, and the police still.

Will tell the full story when I think it's somewhat resolved or when I'm drunk/pissed because it won't be.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on March 14, 2018, 05:13:31 PM
https://kansascity.craigslist.org/muc/d/help-get-rid-of-house-guest/6530051743.html (https://kansascity.craigslist.org/muc/d/help-get-rid-of-house-guest/6530051743.html)

Quote
Please help get rid of these house guest from hell-
I invited my youngest son and girlfriend for a visit. It's been 2 months now. They do t leave. I invite you a band. To come and set up and practise all night long 7 days a week. I can guarantee your stuff to be safe. And you have my permission to play all night long. I am very serious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 15, 2018, 01:59:08 PM
YES!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article205287044.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article205287044.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 15, 2018, 02:42:50 PM
Streetcar being used to connect affordable housing to jobs...shocker.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 15, 2018, 03:19:37 PM
the north part of downtown is grody AF.  pretty much everything north of 9th street.  hope that stuff gets bought up and bulldozed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 15, 2018, 03:39:02 PM
the north part of downtown is grody AF.  pretty much everything north of 9th street.  hope that stuff gets bought up and bulldozed.

i think the problem is they already bulldozed too much stuff
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 15, 2018, 03:48:48 PM
the north part of downtown is grody AF.  pretty much everything north of 9th street.  hope that stuff gets bought up and bulldozed.
Bulldooze what? Parking lots? Assume you arent implying city market is grody
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 15, 2018, 03:54:04 PM
the north part of downtown is grody AF.  pretty much everything north of 9th street.  hope that stuff gets bought up and bulldozed.
Bulldooze what? Parking lots? Assume you arent implying city market is grody
no not city market.  i'm talking between 9th street and 435.  just a lot of parking lots and old decrepit vacant buildings.  seems like there's a lot of untapped value there considering the proximity to the non-shitty parts of downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 15, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
the north part of downtown is grody AF.  pretty much everything north of 9th street.  hope that stuff gets bought up and bulldozed.
Bulldooze what? Parking lots? Assume you arent implying city market is grody
no not city market.  i'm talking between 9th street and 435.  just a lot of parking lots and old decrepit vacant buildings.  seems like there's a lot of untapped value there considering the proximity to the non-shitty parts of downtown.
Yeah the popular theory is that land is being held for Kauffman II.

That whole area will look a lot different once the north loop highway is removed (hopefully}.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on March 15, 2018, 04:12:20 PM
I would never ever stay at a strangers home if they were going to be there too.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 15, 2018, 04:19:24 PM
wait, Shooter, the airbnb host lived in his/her airbnb and was at home while you stayed there? wtf

i thought all airbnb's were strictly used for airbnb'n
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on March 15, 2018, 04:27:44 PM
You can rent a room in someone’s house, it’s very common.  It was how Airbnb started.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 15, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
i don't think i would do that, at least in an american city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 15, 2018, 04:35:10 PM
the north part of downtown is grody AF.  pretty much everything north of 9th street.  hope that stuff gets bought up and bulldozed.
Bulldooze what? Parking lots? Assume you arent implying city market is grody
no not city market.  i'm talking between 9th street and 435.  just a lot of parking lots and old decrepit vacant buildings.  seems like there's a lot of untapped value there considering the proximity to the non-shitty parts of downtown.
Yeah the popular theory is that land is being held for Kauffman II.

That whole area will look a lot different once the north loop highway is removed (hopefully}.
I thought kauffman ii was pegged for southeast downtown?  at least in the last proposal i saw.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 15, 2018, 04:52:47 PM
the north part of downtown is grody AF.  pretty much everything north of 9th street.  hope that stuff gets bought up and bulldozed.
Bulldooze what? Parking lots? Assume you arent implying city market is grody
no not city market.  i'm talking between 9th street and 435.  just a lot of parking lots and old decrepit vacant buildings.  seems like there's a lot of untapped value there considering the proximity to the non-shitty parts of downtown.
Yeah the popular theory is that land is being held for Kauffman II.

That whole area will look a lot different once the north loop highway is removed (hopefully}.
I thought kauffman ii was pegged for southeast downtown?  at least in the last proposal i saw.

That's the other option.  Commerce Bank has held those north loop lots you are talking about for decades...assuming for something big vs. selling them out for redevelopment which they could easily do in the current market.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 15, 2018, 05:31:40 PM
That street car will be New Orleans Esq in no time. That's for sure. Welcome to the city of bums, peeps! Enjoy the staunch.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 15, 2018, 05:34:17 PM
My wife works at Commerce, Phil. Stay away from her parking lot you monster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 15, 2018, 05:38:06 PM
My wife works at Commerce, Phil. Stay away from her parking lot you monster.

she shouldn't have moved away where she needed that lot  :driving: :driving:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 15, 2018, 05:42:19 PM
The only spot that makes sense for me with a new Kaufman is the River Market. Plenty of space. I've always been surprised there's no much going on there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 15, 2018, 06:11:06 PM
The only spot that makes sense for me with a new Kaufman is the River Market. Plenty of space. I've always been surprised there's no much going on there.

where in river market?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on March 16, 2018, 09:48:21 AM
the north part of downtown is grody AF.  pretty much everything north of 9th street.  hope that stuff gets bought up and bulldozed.
Bulldooze what? Parking lots? Assume you arent implying city market is grody
no not city market.  i'm talking between 9th street and 435.  just a lot of parking lots and old decrepit vacant buildings.  seems like there's a lot of untapped value there considering the proximity to the non-shitty parts of downtown.
Yeah the popular theory is that land is being held for Kauffman II.

That whole area will look a lot different once the north loop highway is removed (hopefully}.
I thought kauffman ii was pegged for southeast downtown?  at least in the last proposal i saw.

That's the other option.  Commerce Bank has held those north loop lots you are talking about for decades...assuming for something big vs. selling them out for redevelopment which they could easily do in the current market.
that's disappointing. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2018, 12:14:45 PM
The only spot that makes sense for me with a new Kaufman is the River Market. Plenty of space. I've always been surprised there's no much going on there.

where in river market?
Right by the river where I used to run. The park area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on March 16, 2018, 12:19:17 PM
The only spot that makes sense for me with a new Kaufman is the River Market. Plenty of space. I've always been surprised there's no much going on there.

where in river market?
Right by the river where I used to run. The park area.

I would totally park my canoe in the Missouri river with a case of beer and a radio.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 16, 2018, 12:21:41 PM
I know, right?! I've thought about that for a long time now. Ideal location.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 16, 2018, 12:34:25 PM
The only spot that makes sense for me with a new Kaufman is the River Market. Plenty of space. I've always been surprised there's no much going on there.

where in river market?
Right by the river where I used to run. The park area.
That's getting filled up by apartments....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 16, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
the river market is the most overhyped plot of dirt in the whole city and that’s really saying something
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 16, 2018, 01:01:40 PM
the river market is the most overhyped plot of dirt in the whole city and that’s really saying something
River market or river front?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 17, 2018, 12:58:49 PM
 
That street car will be New Orleans Esq in no time. That's for sure. Welcome to the city of bums, peeps! Enjoy the staunch.

I am a stench supporter of public transit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on March 17, 2018, 02:24:16 PM
Wacky grammar. Heh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 17, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
the river market is the most overhyped plot of dirt in the whole city and that’s really saying something
River market or river front?
market
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 18, 2018, 08:03:30 AM
the river market is the most overhyped plot of dirt in the whole city and that’s really saying something
River market or river front?
market
Where is all this hyping of RM happening? I am waiting for a condo to open up there so maybe I've bought into this hype I didn't even know we happening!?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 21, 2018, 09:26:58 PM
Super exciting survey with lots of neat pictures to vote on here guys....the Buck bridge and north loop is going to be changing soon and bigly

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/NorthLoop2
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on March 29, 2018, 07:20:55 PM
https://twitter.com/MaxLondberg/status/979509276480765957
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 30, 2018, 07:40:27 AM
https://twitter.com/MaxLondberg/status/979509276480765957
If this isn't enough to convince people KC needs a new airport, then nothing is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 30, 2018, 12:26:58 PM
fyi this is now the lower division KC thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2018, 01:15:45 PM
Accurate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 30, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
https://twitter.com/MaxLondberg/status/979509276480765957
If this isn't enough to convince people KC needs a new airport, then nothing is

This is the same kind of argument as the “who thought self driving cars were a good idea” crowd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on March 30, 2018, 08:54:43 PM
Tear down Sky Harbor

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2017/11/03/bed-bugs-found-at-phoenix-sky-harbor-international.html

Tear down Vancouver International

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/a13087063/bed-bugs-on-british-airlines-flight/

Tear down Heathrow

http://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/cabin-crew-find-bed-bugs-on-british-airways-plane-flight-delayed-for-4-hours
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 31, 2018, 04:19:18 AM
Not clicking those links. Did another robot kill someone?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 03, 2018, 12:38:24 PM
tear that rough rider down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 04, 2018, 12:40:00 PM
For those who missed the streetcar of death main street extension meeting...here is the data provided.

http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/UpdatedFINAL-MainStExt-PublicMtg1-Boards.pdf

Decisions still being made on which lane of traffic the streetcar will run...looks like mixed traffic south of 31st.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 05, 2018, 05:48:47 PM
Can someone cliffs the 18th and vine thing for me?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 06, 2018, 02:23:09 PM
Change name to 18th and wine and the hipsters will flock
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 09, 2018, 04:38:03 PM
There's a car chase going on right now by my house and Kietz is doing the pbp of it on the radio right now.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 09, 2018, 09:54:41 PM
Wrong thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on April 11, 2018, 01:02:05 PM
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Suspect in Brookside attorney killing accidentally taped himself confessing: police
  :Wha:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article208564109.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article208564109.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on April 11, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
Quote
Suspect in Brookside attorney killing accidentally taped himself confessing: police
  :Wha:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article208564109.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article208564109.html)

Quote
But Jungerman accidentally recorded himself saying he killed Pickert within weeks of the shooting, according to a probable cause affidavit supporting the murder charge.

The accidental recording came during a court hearing in Vernon County, according to the documents. It appeared Jungerman never turned off the recorder he had been using.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 11, 2018, 01:41:47 PM
Crazy how long that took. Seemed open shut from day 1.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 11, 2018, 02:59:02 PM
Yeah I really don't get it.  I had assumed that he had some rock solid, triple checked alibi since he wasn't a suspect.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2018, 03:00:38 PM
Dude should have watched the jinx
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on April 12, 2018, 11:46:19 AM
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Court documents say the single bullet that killed Picket was a .17 caliber round, which is relatively rare. When officials searched Jungerman's white Toyota Sequoia on March 8, 2018  they located an unspent .17 caliber bullet under the passenger seat.

A witness then told investigators that he had a conversation with Jungerman that same month, and during that conversation, Jungerman stated he had killed a lawyer with a gun and gotten away with it. According to court documents, Jungerman said he did it because the lawyer stole his money.

On March 9, 2018, the day after searching Jungerman's SUV, investigators executed a search warrant at his home were they located a recording of the conversation the witness described. Court documents say it contained audio recording of a court hearing in Vernon County, Mo., where Jungerman was charge for a crime. After the hearing, the recording continued to run. Jungerman left the hearing and met up with an unnamed individual. The two drove to Jungerman's property to investigate some deer poachers thought to be hunting there. While there Jungerman stated, "It's a shame I don't have a 17 (inaudible), from a distance, we could take 'em out.'" The conversation between the two continued and Jungerman eventually confessed to murdering Pickert, court documents say.

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Court documents say Jungerman threatened Pickert after the verdict in the case was released. Pickert told two people that after the verdict, most of the people left the courtroom except for his client and Jungerman. He said Jungerman approached him in an aggressive manner and said, "None of this matters. I have 186 guns. I did it once before. I will do it again. You can't touch me."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 12, 2018, 11:50:16 AM
soooo....any word on why it took this long to nail this down?  so weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2018, 11:52:40 AM
soooo....any word on why it took this long to nail this down?  so weird.

no word.  I simply have to assume there is a amazing excuse
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 12, 2018, 11:56:33 AM
i feel like such a dope now.  for the last few months whenever i was talking about this, i'd be like "there's no way it was the old man.  it's so obvious.  if it was the old man, he'd be in jail by now. they're looking for someone else."

but actually it turns out he did do it and he was threatening pickert immediately after the verdict with his guns?  like, huh?  the only reason they got him was because they fell ass backwards into a recorded confession on an unrelated shooting -- a shooting that never would have happened if they'd actually arrested him for the murder he obviously committed in the first place?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2018, 12:05:21 PM
i feel like such a dope now.  for the last few months whenever i was talking about this, i'd be like "there's no way it was the old man.  it's so obvious.  if it was the old man, he'd be in jail by now. they're looking for someone else."

but actually it turns out he did do it and he was threatening pickert immediately after the verdict with his guns?  like, huh?  the only reason they got him was because they fell ass backwards into a recorded confession on an unrelated shooting -- a shooting that never would have happened if they'd actually arrested him for the murder he obviously committed in the first place?

ditto.  i assumed he had someone else do it and had a ironclad alibi like he was in court in Jefferson City or on live tv or something that was undisputed.

as it turns out nope.  He basically had bloody fingerprints at the scene
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 12, 2018, 12:06:23 PM
i feel like such a dope now.  for the last few months whenever i was talking about this, i'd be like "there's no way it was the old man.  it's so obvious.  if it was the old man, he'd be in jail by now. they're looking for someone else."

but actually it turns out he did do it and he was threatening pickert immediately after the verdict with his guns?  like, huh?  the only reason they got him was because they fell ass backwards into a recorded confession on an unrelated shooting -- a shooting that never would have happened if they'd actually arrested him for the murder he obviously committed in the first place?

ditto.  i assumed he had someone else do it and had a ironclad alibi like he was in court in Jefferson City or on live tv or something that was undisputed.

as it turns out nope.  He basically had bloody fingerprints at the scene
i was guessing his wife had someone do it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2018, 01:03:15 PM
i feel like such a dope now.  for the last few months whenever i was talking about this, i'd be like "there's no way it was the old man.  it's so obvious.  if it was the old man, he'd be in jail by now. they're looking for someone else."

but actually it turns out he did do it and he was threatening pickert immediately after the verdict with his guns?  like, huh?  the only reason they got him was because they fell ass backwards into a recorded confession on an unrelated shooting -- a shooting that never would have happened if they'd actually arrested him for the murder he obviously committed in the first place?

ditto.  i assumed he had someone else do it and had a ironclad alibi like he was in court in Jefferson City or on live tv or something that was undisputed.

as it turns out nope.  He basically had bloody fingerprints at the scene

jbp knew he had more money than she did and was not going to lose the case
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2018, 01:32:02 PM
"the lawyer stole his money" what a psychopath
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 12, 2018, 03:53:34 PM
i feel like such a dope now.  for the last few months whenever i was talking about this, i'd be like "there's no way it was the old man.  it's so obvious.  if it was the old man, he'd be in jail by now. they're looking for someone else."

but actually it turns out he did do it and he was threatening pickert immediately after the verdict with his guns?  like, huh?  the only reason they got him was because they fell ass backwards into a recorded confession on an unrelated shooting -- a shooting that never would have happened if they'd actually arrested him for the murder he obviously committed in the first place?

ditto.  i assumed he had someone else do it and had a ironclad alibi like he was in court in Jefferson City or on live tv or something that was undisputed.

as it turns out nope.  He basically had bloody fingerprints at the scene

jbp knew he had more money than she did and was not going to lose the case

even too insidery for me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2018, 05:55:25 PM
sounds like it just took awhile to find the "smoking gun" evidence....going through bus footage, then finally getting this idiot audio recording.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2018, 01:29:27 PM
Skip the games and just get sf at all the delish breweries....two new ones just opened (I think strange days is now open...but should be for big 12 at least)

have you tried strange days? their lineup looks p good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2018, 02:41:06 PM
Skip the games and just get sf at all the delish breweries....two new ones just opened (I think strange days is now open...but should be for big 12 at least)

have you tried strange days? their lineup looks p good
Couple weeks ago. Nothing stood out but it was fine beer. Liked all their focus on soccer and opening early.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2018, 07:49:10 PM
Skip the games and just get sf at all the delish breweries....two new ones just opened (I think strange days is now open...but should be for big 12 at least)

have you tried strange days? their lineup looks p good
Couple weeks ago. Nothing stood out but it was fine beer. Liked all their focus on soccer and opening early.
Casual Animal is light years ahead of strange days in terms of their beers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on April 15, 2018, 02:35:47 AM
casual animal is an irl tobias friend, i assume others here know through kickball circles or whatevs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 06:01:40 AM
Most kickball peeps aren't wannabe hipsters like mo cat and Phil. They don't really discuss the newest spot on the street serving water through an old wine bottle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 15, 2018, 11:00:09 AM
Most kickball peeps aren't wannabe hipsters like mo cat and Phil. They don't really discuss the newest spot on the street serving water through an old wine bottle.
Hipster shaming. Sad.

Hope you have a nice relaxing Sunday wacky.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 11:00:57 AM
You too, friend.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 11:01:23 AM
I think we're trying ignite brunch this morning


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 15, 2018, 11:21:05 AM
casual animal is an irl tobias friend, i assume others here know through kickball circles or whatevs

It is great, it really is. They let my dog wander around, their beers are v good, their patio has amaze wood smell, you can bring food in from the brick next door, wow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 11:22:20 AM
You let your dog eff with other ppl?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 15, 2018, 11:30:29 AM
casual animal is an irl tobias friend, i assume others here know through kickball circles or whatevs

It is great, it really is. They let my dog wander around, their beers are v good, their patio has amaze wood smell, you can bring food in from the brick next door, wow

I like how all the breweries kind of have their thing.....CA has the charity thing down with part of one of their beer sales going to a charity and the dice rolling thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
Ignite rocks the socks off out of brunch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 15, 2018, 01:26:36 PM
Ignite rocks the socks off out of brunch

Wrong thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
I don't think you get KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on April 15, 2018, 01:30:57 PM
Relax guys it’s Sunday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 15, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
Ignite sounds like a non denom youth group
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2018, 01:43:06 PM


casual animal is an irl tobias friend, i assume others here know through kickball circles or whatevs

It is great, it really is. They let my dog wander around, their beers are v good, their patio has amaze wood smell, you can bring food in from the brick next door, wow

Ugh, dogs wandering?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 01:52:11 PM
Ignite sounds like a non denom youth group
it's a place that allows non asshats getting bothered by other people's pets. That's for sure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 01:56:26 PM
Dogs and food and drinks don't mix
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 01:57:35 PM
Unless you don't care about of other people's surroundings of course
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 15, 2018, 02:00:59 PM
Ignite dinner was not good..
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 02:10:29 PM
Their waiting staff sucks like most hipster joints. I think you guys would love it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 15, 2018, 02:18:21 PM
Their waiting staff sucks like most hipster joints. I think you guys would love it.

ignite is not hipster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 02:22:08 PM
I just said their waiting staff is rude/assholes like most hipster places. I never called it hipster. Hipsters couldn't afford it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 15, 2018, 02:25:32 PM
I just said their waiting staff is rude/assholes like most hipster places. I never called it hipster. Hipsters couldn't afford it.


ahhh, this seems like a great wacky world thread BTW....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 02:33:59 PM
It's very hard to be rude to the nicest white midwesterner you've ever seen. Goddamn Trumps America these days.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Dogs and food and drinks don't mix

falloon patio has all three and it’s great, I love meeting all the drinker’s pups
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 15, 2018, 02:56:56 PM
oh man, wacks isn't going to take this place well

https://www.barkdogbar.com/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2018, 03:25:49 PM
oh man, wacks isn't going to take this place well

https://www.barkdogbar.com/


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 03:30:06 PM
Dogs and food and drinks don't mix

falloon patio has all three and it’s great, I love meeting all the drinker’s pups
is this why you bring your own milk?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
I'm killing it guys! :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 15, 2018, 04:10:18 PM
'clams and mocat, we should falloon dogpak. Also get scout a leash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 15, 2018, 05:33:07 PM
'clams and mocat, we should falloon dogpak. Also get scout a leash.

Oh h$&@ yeah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on April 15, 2018, 06:05:57 PM
Most kickball peeps aren't wannabe hipsters like mo cat and Phil. They don't really discuss the newest spot on the street serving water through an old wine bottle.
Adults playing kickball sounds pretty hip to me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 30, 2018, 08:50:15 AM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 30, 2018, 09:28:51 AM
I've heard of 2 of those bands.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2018, 09:33:00 AM
Driving slow as crap (my mom's suggestion)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 09:34:50 AM
Wait, that's a concert? I just thought those were sponsors or something for some charity event.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on April 30, 2018, 09:57:50 AM
Greta Van Fleet is my favorite Led Zeppelin tribute band.

Social Distortion!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 30, 2018, 10:06:55 AM
GVF would be fun to watch.  They're very talented but yes, it's 100% a total ripoff.

Spoon would be great to see.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 10:08:23 AM
I saw spoon live when I worked in radio and they absolutely sucked ass. Just a heads up dlew.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 30, 2018, 10:23:07 AM
Social Distortion Obvs. Grizzly Bear has some good songs.

Plus you have to go see Vitamin C just to hear "Graduation (Friends Forever)," right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 30, 2018, 10:36:42 AM
oh man, wacks isn't going to take this place well

https://www.barkdogbar.com/

I think he can decide not to go to a place like that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 30, 2018, 10:41:36 AM
i love spoon, p excited to see them again. grizzly bear will be fun too.
i do not like social distortion and they nearly ruined guitar hero 3 for me when i was a college lad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 10:42:41 AM
If that place is designed for dogs, then i'm cool with it. Chicken and pickle is the same way. As long as you know what you're getting yourself into. I shouldn't have to be bothered by a rough ridin' dog at mccoys tho while I eat my brunch. Piss off, animal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 30, 2018, 10:57:35 AM
i love spoon, p excited to see them again. grizzly bear will be fun too.
i do not like social distortion and they nearly ruined guitar hero 3 for me when i was a college lad
yeah.  i was supposed to go to miami for a b-party earlier that week lasting through the weekend, but i'm strongly considering hanging around KC and going down on saturday morning now.  Spoon and GVF are tipping the scales.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2018, 11:02:51 AM
I have heard of spoon (sucks), social d (meh), and the sluts ( ok )
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 11:05:26 AM
I've never been to a more unforgettable concert than Spoon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 30, 2018, 11:06:50 AM
no offense to lib and wacky, but your opinions of spoon couldn't carry any lower weight for me. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 11:09:24 AM
I just like really good music. That's my only fault. I might drive to Indy in a few weeks for Citizen Cope. #elite


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 30, 2018, 11:15:06 AM
will they play don't you evah? i hope so!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 30, 2018, 11:30:40 AM
I've never been to a more unforgettable concert than Spoon.
Apparently you have.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2018, 11:52:43 AM
no offense to lib and wacky, but your opinions of spoon couldn't carry any lower weight for me.

No one's opinion on music should matter except your own d-lew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 30, 2018, 12:31:25 PM
no offense to lib and wacky, but your opinions of spoon couldn't carry any lower weight for me.

No one's opinion on music should matter except your own d-lew
i value some peoples' opinions.  stevesie and i have very similar tastes for instance, so when he tells me a band i should listen to, i'll take it to heart. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 30, 2018, 12:45:49 PM
oh man i just noticed Sports! i will go see Sports, too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2018, 12:48:39 PM
no offense to lib and wacky, but your opinions of spoon couldn't carry any lower weight for me.

No one's opinion on music should matter except your own d-lew
i value some peoples' opinions.  stevesie and i have very similar tastes for instance, so when he tells me a band i should listen to, i'll take it to heart.

Will you like/not like a band because of stevesies endorsement tho?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 30, 2018, 01:15:39 PM
no offense to lib and wacky, but your opinions of spoon couldn't carry any lower weight for me.

No one's opinion on music should matter except your own d-lew
i value some peoples' opinions.  stevesie and i have very similar tastes for instance, so when he tells me a band i should listen to, i'll take it to heart.

Will you like/not like a band because of stevesies endorsement tho?
if stevesie said "spoon sucks live" i'd be more likely not to go see spoon than if someone else said that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 01:16:08 PM
We get it, dlew. You don't respect me. Yeesh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 30, 2018, 01:46:14 PM
We get it, dlew. You don't respect me. Yeesh.
glad we got all of this cleared up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2018, 01:57:31 PM
no offense to lib and wacky, but your opinions of spoon couldn't carry any lower weight for me.

No one's opinion on music should matter except your own d-lew
i value some peoples' opinions.  stevesie and i have very similar tastes for instance, so when he tells me a band i should listen to, i'll take it to heart.

Will you like/not like a band because of stevesies endorsement tho?
if stevesie said "spoon sucks live" i'd be more likely not to go see spoon than if someone else said that.

If you already liked spoon and stevesie says they suck would you change your opinion?

All I was saying is you do you pal  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on April 30, 2018, 02:01:22 PM
Can we just get @Stevesie60 in here to tell Dlew what to think already?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 30, 2018, 02:17:41 PM
nobody is changing my mind about liking a band or not.  some people can change my mind about going to see a band in concert. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 02:19:47 PM
Weezer is like one of my favorite bands of all time and they suck live. Like, freaking Cake stole the show of that concert I went to. I was so sad. They also didn't play Island in the sun.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on April 30, 2018, 02:27:26 PM
Weezer is like one of my favorite bands of all time and they suck live. Like, freaking Cake stole the show of that concert I went to. I was so sad. They also didn't play Island in the sun.  :frown:
This is a remarkably bad opinion Wacky. 

DLew, you should definitely see Spoon based solely on the data points of wacky thinking that both they and Weezer suck live.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 02:29:11 PM
They definitely mailed it in the night I watched them in High school. I saw them later on through work at the river market and it was a better show the second time. So there's that, 8man.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 30, 2018, 02:40:19 PM
Weezer is like one of my favorite bands of all time and they suck live. Like, freaking Cake stole the show of that concert I went to. I was so sad. They also didn't play Island in the sun.  :frown:
This is a remarkably bad opinion Wacky. 

DLew, you should definitely see Spoon based solely on the data points of wacky thinking that both they and Weezer suck live.

i swear wacky's mission in life is to find the worst possible position on every single issue in sports & politics & restaurants

and live music!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 02:40:57 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 30, 2018, 02:41:44 PM
Have fun at that concert, mocat. Looks like a blast of shitty bands. Perfect place for wannabe hipsters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on May 01, 2018, 12:48:31 AM
Weezer is like one of my favorite bands of all time and they suck live. Like, freaking Cake stole the show of that concert I went to. I was so sad. They also didn't play Island in the sun.  :frown:
This is a remarkably bad opinion Wacky. 

DLew, you should definitely see Spoon based solely on the data points of wacky thinking that both they and Weezer suck live.
Spoon is fantastic live. So is Cake. I have heard negative things about Weezer tbh. Grizzly Bear is v. good too if you're a fan of their music (I am).

Also... heard a rumor that mocat has good taste in music but always wants to leave the concert early so take it fwiw  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2018, 08:23:33 AM
You probably heard bad things about Weezer live because you can tell they don't want to be there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2018, 08:31:27 AM
Weezer is p good but I saw them a few times many years ago and every album since then has sucked so I could see them sucking now.

Cake is worse than spoon. Only worse band I've seen than cake was matchbox 20 at some festival. Cake literally stopped the show and lectured the audience how uncool crowd surfing is and then 10 minutes later threatened to walk off when people didn't stop doing it. No one cared because they sucked anyway.

 :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2018, 08:34:34 AM
Oh and cake and matchbox 20 were the same festival  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2018, 08:38:54 AM
Also was in Lawrence and not kc  :Carl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2018, 08:41:26 AM
Good stuff. I think I hate good bands live when they don't play my favorite song of theirs. Obviously 311 doesn't suck, but they didn't play love song and it made me really sad.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 01, 2018, 09:14:20 AM
Good stuff. I think I hate good bands live when they don't play my favorite song of theirs. Obviously 311 doesn't suck, but they didn't play love song and it made me really sad.  :frown:
So now we may be getting somewhere... Love Song and Island in the Sun are both good, but Love Song is a cover song that they haven’t played much except for the few years after they released it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2018, 09:17:54 AM
Yeah, I know. It makes sense. Just sucks when I get all jacked up to hear one of my top 5 songs of all time and they leave me hanging. Love song I get, Island in the sun I don't, but maybe they were just having an off night. Like I said, they had more energy the next time I saw them in town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 01, 2018, 09:20:39 AM
Weezer is p good but I saw them a few times many years ago and every album since then has sucked so I could see them sucking now.

Cake is worse than spoon. Only worse band I've seen than cake was matchbox 20 at some festival. Cake literally stopped the show and lectured the audience how uncool crowd surfing is and then 10 minutes later threatened to walk off when people didn't stop doing it. No one cared because they sucked anyway.

 :th_twocents:

yes cake has said publicly they absolutely hate touring and only do it bc they have to. iirc at their last city market show they made a tornado joke like the week after Joplin happened
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 01, 2018, 07:44:39 PM
I’ve never watched VICE News Tonight but the new episode is about KC not having a MLK JR street and people not agreeing on where it should be. I didn’t watch the episode but it just premiered today I guess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 01, 2018, 09:21:56 PM
They definitely mailed it in the night I watched them in High school. I saw them later on through work at the river market and it was a better show the second time. So there's that, 8man.   :cheers:

rivermkt 'certs were so boss in the day
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2018, 09:25:36 PM
They really were. Pissed they had to stop. I had the perfect rooftop view for it too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2018, 09:34:37 PM
Yeah, one of my fav venues
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 01, 2018, 09:36:23 PM
I’ve never watched VICE News Tonight but the new episode is about KC not having a MLK JR street and people not agreeing on where it should be. I didn’t watch the episode but it just premiered today I guess.
on again at 11 cst

the whole issue is really stupid and vice should be using their platform for much more important issues
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: The Big Train on May 01, 2018, 09:38:11 PM
I’ve never watched VICE News Tonight but the new episode is about KC not having a MLK JR street and people not agreeing on where it should be. I didn’t watch the episode but it just premiered today I guess.
on again at 11 cst

the whole issue is really stupid and vice should be using their platform for much more important issues

Yeah, the only reason I saw it was it was a preview after I finished the new episode of WW.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2018, 09:39:35 PM
It's a very meh piece
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2018, 09:43:32 PM
Except slyin James looking like a boss
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on May 02, 2018, 02:34:37 AM
Weezer is p good but I saw them a few times many years ago and every album since then has sucked so I could see them sucking now.

Cake is worse than spoon. Only worse band I've seen than cake was matchbox 20 at some festival. Cake literally stopped the show and lectured the audience how uncool crowd surfing is and then 10 minutes later threatened to walk off when people didn't stop doing it. No one cared because they sucked anyway.

 :th_twocents:

yes cake has said publicly they absolutely hate touring and only do it bc they have to. iirc at their last city market show they made a tornado joke like the week after Joplin happened
I've seen cake four or five times and I have enjoyed every single show. I think them not enjoying performing is a schtick. One of their shows I was at they gave away a tree to an audience member that answered a question about the Civil War. Fantastic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 02, 2018, 07:38:34 AM
Yeah, cake is good. Consider the source.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 02, 2018, 07:46:20 AM
Weezer is like one of my favorite bands of all time and they suck live. Like, freaking Cake stole the show of that concert I went to. I was so sad. They also didn't play Island in the sun.  :frown:
This is a remarkably bad opinion Wacky. 

DLew, you should definitely see Spoon based solely on the data points of wacky thinking that both they and Weezer suck live.
Spoon is fantastic live. So is Cake. I have heard negative things about Weezer tbh. Grizzly Bear is v. good too if you're a fan of their music (I am).

Also... heard a rumor that mocat has good taste in music but always wants to leave the concert early so take it fwiw  :dunno:

 :zzz:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 02, 2018, 05:00:43 PM
Very Kansas City things...

Quote
"What women are going to walk four blocks at night in any urban core in the country? "Are you kidding me?" Nigro said.

LOL these westport owners.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article210254839.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 02, 2018, 05:03:18 PM
[Joke redacted]

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 02, 2018, 05:06:11 PM
What the hell
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 02, 2018, 06:42:50 PM
Nailed it!

https://twitter.com/lifeoffitz/status/991753450324185100?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 02, 2018, 06:58:22 PM
must have paid a little extra to be able to go to Cancun a little before August this year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 02, 2018, 07:02:39 PM
What if Fitz is a 'clams sock?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 02, 2018, 07:52:53 PM
What if Fitz is a 'clams sock?
I've never seen them both in the same room at the same time...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 02, 2018, 07:55:41 PM
Makes sense. Yikes!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 02, 2018, 08:14:04 PM
Very Kansas City things...

Quote
"What women are going to walk four blocks at night in any urban core in the country? "Are you kidding me?" Nigro said.

LOL these westport owners.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article210254839.html
Nigro should take a trip to a city sometime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 02, 2018, 08:35:16 PM
Very Kansas City things...

Quote
"What women are going to walk four blocks at night in any urban core in the country? "Are you kidding me?" Nigro said.

LOL these westport owners.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article210254839.html
Nigro should take a trip to a city sometime

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 08:58:30 AM
I get his point - it's a 10 minute walk, which isn't much, but if you want to go to westport from downtown via streetcar, it's probably a half hour endeavor (10 minute walk/wait to the streetcar; 10 minutes on the streetcar; 10 minutes to westport). 

If someone suggested we take the streetcar instead of ubering in those circumstances, I'd laugh in their stupid face.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:12:41 AM
jolie mushed that idiot's face on twitter but i'm too lazy to go back and find it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:13:02 AM
I get his point - it's a 10 minute walk, which isn't much, but if you want to go to westport from downtown via streetcar, it's probably a half hour endeavor (10 minute walk/wait to the streetcar; 10 minutes on the streetcar; 10 minutes to westport). 

If someone suggested we take the streetcar instead of ubering in those circumstances, I'd laugh in their stupid face.
They wanted the streetcar to go down Broadway though. You would still Uber in that scenario....the streetcar primary goal is not shuttling Uber taking bar hoppers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:13:42 AM
jolie mushed that idiot's face on twitter but i'm too lazy to go back and find it
Jolie is going to be a stud(ess) mayor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2018, 09:14:12 AM
Right, it's primary goal is to take tourist 1.5 miles at a time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 09:15:40 AM
They wanted the streetcar to go down Broadway though. You would still Uber in that scenario....the streetcar primary goal is not shuttling Uber taking bar hoppers.
Sure.  It's not supposed to get people to Westport.  But if that's the case, then I understand why Westport bar owners are pissed they're footing the bill for this carnival ride.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:17:31 AM
westport is thriving rn and will only continue to do so with the addition of a toy choo choo train 4 effing blocks away but some people really like to show their ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2018, 09:18:26 AM
It's been thriving without the dumbass choo choo train.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:19:33 AM


They wanted the streetcar to go down Broadway though. You would still Uber in that scenario....the streetcar primary goal is not shuttling Uber taking bar hoppers.
Sure.  It's not supposed to get people to Westport.  But if that's the case, then I understand why Westport bar owners are pissed they're footing the bill for this carnival ride.

They need to go ask the east Crossroads if it's bringing them customers.

I can't take any owner seriously if their world view is no woman walks a quarter mile in any urban area in the country.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:23:19 AM


They wanted the streetcar to go down Broadway though. You would still Uber in that scenario....the streetcar primary goal is not shuttling Uber taking bar hoppers.
Sure.  It's not supposed to get people to Westport.  But if that's the case, then I understand why Westport bar owners are pissed they're footing the bill for this carnival ride.

They need to go ask the east Crossroads if it's bringing them customers.

I can't take any owner seriously if their world view is no woman walks a quarter mile in any urban area in the country.

yeah i thought it was like an obscure parody quote. nope, real
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:24:38 AM
Well as someone who has wanted Westport to be the best it can be, I can't wait for the streetcar to get going and help them bring in more customers, improve safety with more pedestrians on the street, and help their current customers have alternative ways to get to them.

If they are truly worried about costs and charging customers more then they should look to reduce the CID sales tax they impose in everybody.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 09:25:04 AM
it's a ridiculous quote, but my point still stands. 

i'm not going through the long street car exercise if i can get to westport in 6 minutes for the cost of a drink.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:26:17 AM
AFAIK you can still uber to the crossroads right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:29:18 AM
it's a ridiculous quote, but my point still stands. 

i'm not going through the long street car exercise if i can get to westport in 6 minutes for the cost of a drink.
Understand that. Some will. We see that now in the Crossroads.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2018, 09:29:56 AM
If you don't own a business, I don't think you should have an opinion on the matter. You have no idea what they all have to go through.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 09:31:20 AM
AFAIK you can still uber to the crossroads right?
I'd be interested in seeing the economic trajectory of the crossroads prior to the $100 million streetcar.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
The 100 million 1.5 mile magical train.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:35:23 AM
If you don't own a business, I don't think you should have an opinion on the matter. You have no idea what they all have to go through.
Does that go for people living in KS shouldn't worry about what MO is doing with our taxes?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2018, 09:37:09 AM
MO has taken plenty of my taxes, so I think I deserve my own opinion. Sorry I bought a house on the KS side tho, since MO is hot garbage.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:37:10 AM
AFAIK you can still uber to the crossroads right?
I'd be interested in seeing the economic trajectory of the crossroads prior to the $100 million streetcar.
Up but not at a rate as after the streetcar...businesses around it will tell you that as will sales tax data and development data will support their anecdotes and individual sales data.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
MO has taken plenty of my taxes, so I think I deserve my own opinion. Sorry I bought a house on the KS side tho, since MO is hot garbage.
I couldn't care less where you bought a house...I just want you to be happy.

So these businesses take my money but I shouldn't have an opinion on their impact of our community?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 09:40:41 AM
AFAIK you can still uber to the crossroads right?
I'd be interested in seeing the economic trajectory of the crossroads prior to the $100 million streetcar.
Up but not at a rate as after the streetcar...businesses around it will tell you that as will sales tax data and development data will support their anecdotes and individual sales data.
I'm sure the streetcar has helped to some degree, but the crossroads was already gentrifying. 

I think it's disingenuous to look at the crossroads now and say "look what the streetcar did!" 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:41:57 AM
i think it's disingenuous to look at a streetcar and say "well crap now how am i supposed to uber anywhere?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:44:06 AM
AFAIK you can still uber to the crossroads right?
I'd be interested in seeing the economic trajectory of the crossroads prior to the $100 million streetcar.
Up but not at a rate as after the streetcar...businesses around it will tell you that as will sales tax data and development data will support their anecdotes and individual sales data.
I'm sure the streetcar has helped to some degree, but the crossroads was already gentrifying. 

I think it's disingenuous to look at the crossroads now and say "look what the streetcar did!"
My comment about crossroads was look at how many people walk from the streetcar stop to East Crossroads bars.

Streetcar has been a positive development for crossroads (based on developer comments) but obviously not the only factor of the neighborhoods success..
Anybody suggesting such isn't well informed and just discovered the crossroads 18 months ago.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:46:31 AM
Around 2025 I can see Westport Rd between main and Broadway growing up bigly and a friendly walk to the anchor of Westport square on the end. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 09:48:29 AM
i think it's disingenuous to look at a streetcar and say "well crap now how am i supposed to uber anywhere?"
My point is that hardly anyone is going to be taking the streetcar to westport if it lets out at 39th and main. 

Around 2025 I can see Westport Rd between main and Broadway growing up bigly and a friendly walk to the anchor of Westport square on the end. Can't wait.
If we're predicting the future, autonomous cars are going to make the streetcar irrelevant before 2025.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2018, 09:49:44 AM
It's almost like the crossroads having more to do helped it grow as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 03, 2018, 09:50:25 AM
i think it's disingenuous to look at a streetcar and say "well crap now how am i supposed to uber anywhere?"
My point is that hardly anyone is going to be taking the streetcar to westport if it lets out at 39th and main. 

Around 2025 I can see Westport Rd between main and Broadway growing up bigly and a friendly walk to the anchor of Westport square on the end. Can't wait.
If we're predicting the future, autonomous cars are going to make the streetcar irrelevant before 2025.

That seems awfully optimistic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:52:01 AM
i think it's disingenuous to look at a streetcar and say "well crap now how am i supposed to uber anywhere?"
My point is that hardly anyone is going to be taking the streetcar to westport if it lets out at 39th and main. 

well as Phil noted, shitloads of people take the streetcar to the crossroads and it's an even farther walk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:52:39 AM


i think it's disingenuous to look at a streetcar and say "well crap now how am i supposed to uber anywhere?"
My point is that hardly anyone is going to be taking the streetcar to westport if it lets out at 39th and main. 

And evidence right now of this distance in this city shows differently.

Those who won't take it wouldn't have taken it if it dropped off on broadway....


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:53:45 AM
Around 2025 I can see Westport Rd between main and Broadway growing up bigly and a friendly walk to the anchor of Westport square on the end. Can't wait.

the stagecoach has got to be jazzed to the tits at the prospect
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 09:55:13 AM
Around 2025 I can see Westport Rd between main and Broadway growing up bigly and a friendly walk to the anchor of Westport square on the end. Can't wait.

the stagecoach has got to be jazzed to the tits at the prospect
My public transit pub crawl stopped their last year. Girls even walked it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 09:56:34 AM
i think it's disingenuous to look at a streetcar and say "well crap now how am i supposed to uber anywhere?"
My point is that hardly anyone is going to be taking the streetcar to westport if it lets out at 39th and main. 

well as Phil noted, shitloads of people take the streetcar to the crossroads and it's an even farther walk
phil noted that an already booming area continued to boom (but maybe a little faster) after $100 million was invested into it.  no crap?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:57:48 AM
i think it's disingenuous to look at a streetcar and say "well crap now how am i supposed to uber anywhere?"
My point is that hardly anyone is going to be taking the streetcar to westport if it lets out at 39th and main. 

well as Phil noted, shitloads of people take the streetcar to the crossroads and it's an even farther walk
phil noted that an already booming area continued to boom (but maybe a little faster) after $100 million was invested into it.  no crap?

yeah but that's irrelevant to your point of the distance being too far for people to want to walk, despite evidence that it's not too far.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 09:58:28 AM
I don't get what your point about the crossroads is.  there's tons of crossroads crap right on main street.  like, the streetcar literally goes through the crossroads:

(http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2017newMap.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:58:59 AM
Around 2025 I can see Westport Rd between main and Broadway growing up bigly and a friendly walk to the anchor of Westport square on the end. Can't wait.

the stagecoach has got to be jazzed to the tits at the prospect
My public transit pub crawl stopped their last year. Girls even walked it.

OT #1: i was pretty sad when blind tiger closed. i heard it was because people were bitching about their upstairs patio being too loud or something?

OT #2: harling's is like, not coming back right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 09:59:44 AM
I don't get what your point about the crossroads is.  there's tons of crossroads crap right on main street.  like, the streetcar literally goes through the crossroads:

(http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2017newMap.jpg)

yeah i'm talking about east crossroads, where all the breweries are
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 10:01:17 AM
I don't get what your point about the crossroads is.  there's tons of crossroads crap right on main street.  like, the streetcar literally goes through the crossroads:

(http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2017newMap.jpg)
The point is people will walk the distance from mass transit to bars/restaurants in this city. The exact thing Westport mouthpieces say won't happen....and they are a much bigger draw than the east Crossroads from an entertainment district perspective.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 10:02:21 AM
Around 2025 I can see Westport Rd between main and Broadway growing up bigly and a friendly walk to the anchor of Westport square on the end. Can't wait.

the stagecoach has got to be jazzed to the tits at the prospect
My public transit pub crawl stopped their last year. Girls even walked it.

OT #1: i was pretty sad when blind tiger closed. i heard it was because people were bitching about their upstairs patio being too loud or something?

OT #2: harling's is like, not coming back right?
I believe so on harlings....until the Westport streetcar stop brings it back !
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 10:05:06 AM
it's a five minute walk from the streetcar to doubleshift.  it's a ten minute walk to kelly's from 39th and main.  these aren't apples and apples.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 10:11:02 AM
anyway, we're not changing eachother's minds about this, but I get why westport guy is angry (notwithstanding his "FOUR BLOCKS?!" quote).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 10:12:28 AM
it's a five minute walk from the streetcar to doubleshift.  it's a ten minute walk to kelly's from 39th and main.  these aren't apples and apples.
Google maps says they are both .4 mile walks. As one that's walked both the Westport walk is way more pleasant
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 03, 2018, 10:12:55 AM
it's a five minute walk from the streetcar to doubleshift.  it's a ten minute walk to kelly's from 39th and main.  these aren't apples and apples.

One's a tiny apple and the other's a barely bigger but still lol small apple.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 10:17:00 AM
it's a five minute walk from the streetcar to doubleshift.  it's a ten minute walk to kelly's from 39th and main.  these aren't apples and apples.

One's a tiny apple and the other's a barely bigger but still lol small apple.
stay out of this, wichita boy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 10:17:13 AM
it's a five minute walk from the streetcar to doubleshift.  it's a ten minute walk to kelly's from 39th and main.  these aren't apples and apples.



(http://oi64.tinypic.com/bj5r82.jpg)



(http://oi68.tinypic.com/os6fj6.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 10:19:11 AM
whoopsy, i thought the stop was at 18th, not 19th
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 03, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
Even ubers are kind of bullshit when you think about it.  You have to walk all the way from wherever you were sitting on your ass out to a street where the car is.  The driver should come right to your body and carry you piggyback to the car and do the same to deliver you to a barstool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 10:28:21 AM
Even ubers are kind of bullshit when you think about it.  You have to walk all the way from wherever you were sitting on your ass out to a street where the car is.  The driver should come right to your body and carry you piggyback to the car and do the same to deliver you to a barstool.
you're mistaking wanting to get somewhere faster for laziness.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 03, 2018, 10:43:29 AM
Even ubers are kind of bullshit when you think about it.  You have to walk all the way from wherever you were sitting on your ass out to a street where the car is.  The driver should come right to your body and carry you piggyback to the car and do the same to deliver you to a barstool.
you're mistaking wanting to get somewhere faster for laziness.

Anything from 0 to 10 minutes is nothing, particularly in the context of bar-hopping.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 10:52:45 AM
Even ubers are kind of bullshit when you think about it.  You have to walk all the way from wherever you were sitting on your ass out to a street where the car is.  The driver should come right to your body and carry you piggyback to the car and do the same to deliver you to a barstool.
you're mistaking wanting to get somewhere faster for laziness.

Anything from 0 to 10 minutes is nothing, particularly in the context of bar-hopping.
well a ten minute walk to a streetcar and riding on the streetcar and walking ten minutes to wherever you want to go probably adds 20-25 minutes or so over an uber trip.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 03, 2018, 11:12:26 AM
Even ubers are kind of bullshit when you think about it.  You have to walk all the way from wherever you were sitting on your ass out to a street where the car is.  The driver should come right to your body and carry you piggyback to the car and do the same to deliver you to a barstool.
you're mistaking wanting to get somewhere faster for laziness.

Anything from 0 to 10 minutes is nothing, particularly in the context of bar-hopping.
well a ten minute walk to a streetcar and riding on the streetcar and walking ten minutes to wherever you want to go probably adds 20-25 minutes or so over an uber trip.

I see the distinction you're making now. 

People who are already using public transit won't have any issue w/the transit stop being a 10-minute walk from the destination.  People not used to it, and who probably drove/uber'd to the first destination anyway, will think that's dumb. 

Traffic matters too.  In dense cities, uber'n through traffic wouldn't be quicker than transit'n and walking.  Probably not an issue there.  That's something I always hated about KC - how far away things were from each other, and that they weren't good enough things to be worth the effort.

Isn't the streetcar supposed to be a baby step to having real metro-wide transit?  If/when you get to a point of being able to train from Overland Park to Westport, possibly having to walk that last 10 minutes will be unnoticeable.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 11:21:28 AM
Even ubers are kind of bullshit when you think about it.  You have to walk all the way from wherever you were sitting on your ass out to a street where the car is.  The driver should come right to your body and carry you piggyback to the car and do the same to deliver you to a barstool.
you're mistaking wanting to get somewhere faster for laziness.

Anything from 0 to 10 minutes is nothing, particularly in the context of bar-hopping.
well a ten minute walk to a streetcar and riding on the streetcar and walking ten minutes to wherever you want to go probably adds 20-25 minutes or so over an uber trip.

I see the distinction you're making now. 

People who are already using public transit won't have any issue w/the transit stop being a 10-minute walk from the destination.  People not used to it, and who probably drove/uber'd to the first destination anyway, will think that's dumb. 

Traffic matters too.  In dense cities, uber'n through traffic wouldn't be quicker than transit'n and walking.  Probably not an issue there.  That's something I always hated about KC - how far away things were from each other, and that they weren't good enough things to be worth the effort.

Isn't the streetcar supposed to be a baby step to having real metro-wide transit?  If/when you get to a point of being able to train from Overland Park to Westport, possibly having to walk that last 10 minutes will be unnoticeable.
Yes. It's part of a metro wide plan. This is the spine for others to connect to (commuter rail up 35 from joco, commuter rail on the Rock island trail from East and Southwest, BRT through wyco, BRT to Northland or rail if NKC decides to spend some casino cash).


This spine is the second busiest transit corridor in the metro. Troost is higher but there was no appetite from East side leaders or funding method to start there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 03, 2018, 11:24:25 AM
Even ubers are kind of bullshit when you think about it.  You have to walk all the way from wherever you were sitting on your ass out to a street where the car is.  The driver should come right to your body and carry you piggyback to the car and do the same to deliver you to a barstool.
you're mistaking wanting to get somewhere faster for laziness.

Anything from 0 to 10 minutes is nothing, particularly in the context of bar-hopping.
well a ten minute walk to a streetcar and riding on the streetcar and walking ten minutes to wherever you want to go probably adds 20-25 minutes or so over an uber trip.

If/when you get to a point of being able to train from Overland Park to Westport, possibly having to walk that last 10 minutes will be unnoticeable.
yeah i agree that if you're coming in from overland park or somewhere way south, the 10 minute walk is relatively less important. 

then again it's important to remember that this thing isn't a train.  it's basically a very long bus without a dedicated lane.  a trip in from the far less densely populated suburbs would likely require a multiple mile drive/walk to the stop in the first place, only to essentially be taking a bus ride north (except the bus ride is free and doesn't scare whites).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2018, 11:55:58 AM
it does rather grind my gears that the same people who complain that "it's just a 1.5 mile toy train" are the exact same people who were (and are) against an expanded route to UMKC. like yeah obviously i would like full blown trains on dedicated tracks like denver or seattle or any number of other real cities, but this is all we could pass because so many dan coffeys are out here being against new things just to be against them. it's extremely irritating.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 03, 2018, 11:56:31 AM
yeah i agree that if you're coming in from overland park or somewhere way south, the 10 minute walk is relatively less important. 

then again it's important to remember that this thing isn't a train.  it's basically a very long bus without a dedicated lane.  a trip in from the far less densely populated suburbs would likely require a multiple mile drive/walk to the stop in the first place, only to essentially be taking a bus ride north (except the bus ride is free and doesn't scare whites).

The hypothetical ride in from the suburbs would be a real light rail train though, right?  It would only be when it gets to the dense part that the suburb'r might need to transfer on a bus/streetcar/feet.  And the whites can handle that last little part.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2018, 12:00:21 PM
Even ubers are kind of bullshit when you think about it.  You have to walk all the way from wherever you were sitting on your ass out to a street where the car is.  The driver should come right to your body and carry you piggyback to the car and do the same to deliver you to a barstool.
you're mistaking wanting to get somewhere faster for laziness.

Anything from 0 to 10 minutes is nothing, particularly in the context of bar-hopping.
well a ten minute walk to a streetcar and riding on the streetcar and walking ten minutes to wherever you want to go probably adds 20-25 minutes or so over an uber trip.

If/when you get to a point of being able to train from Overland Park to Westport, possibly having to walk that last 10 minutes will be unnoticeable.
yeah i agree that if you're coming in from overland park or somewhere way south, the 10 minute walk is relatively less important. 

then again it's important to remember that this thing isn't a train.  it's basically a very long bus without a dedicated lane.  a trip in from the far less densely populated suburbs would likely require a multiple mile drive/walk to the stop in the first place, only to essentially be taking a bus ride north (except the bus ride is free and doesn't scare whites).
It is transit to the appropriate scale of Kansas City factoring in our lack of traffic and overabundance of car lanes.  Dedicated ROW in this area would be a waste of money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2018, 01:11:22 PM
I don't get what your point about the crossroads is.  there's tons of crossroads crap right on main street.  like, the streetcar literally goes through the crossroads:

(http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2017newMap.jpg)
The point is people will walk the distance from mass transit to bars/restaurants in this city. The exact thing Westport mouthpieces say won't happen....and they are a much bigger draw than the east Crossroads from an entertainment district perspective.

heh, don’t conflate mass transit and the streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 04, 2018, 08:52:07 AM
This feels like one of the best examples I've seen of Kansas City having a disproportionately good alternative music scene just because of one good radio station.



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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2018, 08:58:30 AM
And unfortunately that radio station is consistently in danger of closing shop because of dreadful ratings.  :cry: I don't know what i'd do if we lost that station.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2018, 09:04:35 AM
Let me know when the buzz is ranked number 2 by ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE like the Lazer was.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 04, 2018, 09:40:35 AM
that is going to be a suffocating show
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 04, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
Before KC plans and builds their future transit system, they better figure out where the sports teams are going to play and make damn sure to include that in the loop.  The setup that Portland has to get to the arena from downtown would be an ideal model.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2018, 10:16:27 AM
Before KC plans and builds their future transit system, they better figure out where the sports teams are going to play and make damn sure to include that in the loop.  The setup that Portland has to get to the arena from downtown would be an ideal model.
Sprint center is set, Kauffman 2.0 land looking to be landbanked downtown within walking distance of line, Arrowhead is on Rock island line.  Sporting tied to kck BRT line.

Maybe dumb luck but we are set.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 04, 2018, 10:37:34 AM
Before KC plans and builds their future transit system, they better figure out where the sports teams are going to play and make damn sure to include that in the loop.  The setup that Portland has to get to the arena from downtown would be an ideal model.
Sprint center is set, Kauffman 2.0 land looking to be landbanked downtown within walking distance of line, Arrowhead is on Rock island line.  Sporting tied to kck BRT line.

Maybe dumb luck but we are set.

Nice...looking forward to them getting it built. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on May 04, 2018, 10:16:45 PM
Before KC plans and builds their future transit system, they better figure out where the sports teams are going to play and make damn sure to include that in the loop.  The setup that Portland has to get to the arena from downtown would be an ideal model.
Sprint center is set, Kauffman 2.0 land looking to be landbanked downtown within walking distance of line, Arrowhead is on Rock island line.  Sporting tied to kck BRT line.

Maybe dumb luck but we are set.
does "landbanked" mean the Royals have assembled the real estate they need to move downtown?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2018, 12:22:16 AM
Before KC plans and builds their future transit system, they better figure out where the sports teams are going to play and make damn sure to include that in the loop.  The setup that Portland has to get to the arena from downtown would be an ideal model.
Sprint center is set, Kauffman 2.0 land looking to be landbanked downtown within walking distance of line, Arrowhead is on Rock island line.  Sporting tied to kck BRT line.

Maybe dumb luck but we are set.
does "landbanked" mean the Royals have assembled the real estate they need to move downtown?

no...others are doing it to woo them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Post itt if you got that sexy envelope in the mail that you have to sign and get notarized
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2018, 10:17:30 AM
:fatty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2018, 10:20:35 AM
Post itt if you got that sexy envelope in the mail that you have to sign and get notarized

FYI any notary has to do this for free since it is a ballot.  MO law should get rid of the notary thing and just mail every registered voter a ballot every election...way better turn out even in this mail in ballot than the last pud walk in election we had.

Mine is filled out ready to walk down to a bank and mail.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 07, 2018, 04:24:58 PM
(https://i.redditmedia.com/sZkMiDRFsQwKZBXWjGm4rAnA8saDlzRGsWHK02_0RH8.jpg?w=431&s=7db22ded0a7fd8d090a778a414d3d99b)

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 07, 2018, 04:26:12 PM
 :lol: Classic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 07, 2018, 04:26:25 PM
lol what
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2018, 05:33:54 PM
we're very nice people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on May 07, 2018, 06:04:44 PM
is that a 'shop or a prank sticker?

did that really happen?

 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2018, 06:19:59 PM
It's only 24 Million....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
 :ROFL:  Tim is none to happy with this turn of events.

https://twitter.com/philtitola/status/993642982896218113

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dcog5W4V0AA8bpE.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2018, 07:48:00 PM
rough ridin' tim
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 07, 2018, 08:04:42 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2018, 08:28:17 AM
so i guess we scrapped the idea to replace the buck o'neil bridge?
SB lanes will be closed for repairs from may 19 until december  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 08, 2018, 08:33:41 AM
so i guess we scrapped the idea to replace the buck o'neil bridge?
SB lanes will be closed for repairs from may 19 until december  :sdeek:

these are interim repairs.  It takes years to design, plan and build that kind of bridge.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 08:40:15 AM
Whoever is in charge of 435 construction sucks a giant one too. They've had the 4th lane blocked (with cones) on both sides for up to 6 months now with zero construction going on. It's goddamn mess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 08, 2018, 08:51:18 AM
that "anally" sign was a prank.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2018, 09:06:28 AM
so i guess we scrapped the idea to replace the buck o'neil bridge?
SB lanes will be closed for repairs from may 19 until december  :sdeek:

these are interim repairs.  It takes years to design, plan and build that kind of bridge.

thanks for answering my question mikeyis4dcats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2018, 09:40:16 AM
Whoever is in charge of 435 construction sucks a giant one too. They've had the 4th lane blocked (with cones) on both sides for up to 6 months now with zero construction going on. It's goddamn mess.

This isn't true
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
What part of it is false?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2018, 10:14:24 AM
All of it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 10:18:39 AM
Well I drive to work everyday on 435 from Quivira RD to Roe and can confirm it's exactly like this. I guess the 4th lane finally opens up past the Metcalf exit going east. It's still exhausting and i've never seen any construction being done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2018, 10:23:32 AM
Well I drive to work everyday on 435 from Quivira RD to Roe and can confirm it's exactly like this. I guess the 4th lane finally opens up past the Metcalf exit going east. It's still exhausting and i've never seen any construction being done.

Wacky IRL tweeted at Sly asking why there was so much construction on 435.....in JOCO

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 10:24:39 AM
Good one, chodecat. And that's totally the same construction I was talking about with this one. And those timelines totally match up you colossal eff stain.  :facepalm:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article204119464.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
There were no lane closures from late October to march. The current lane closures started in march and you'd have to be blind to not see the numerous construction activities going on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 10:48:32 AM
I was off on the timeline, the October one I was speaking of were on the Missouri side when I was traveling for work. And I guess i'll take pics of the no activity construction going on, on my way to work 5 days a week from now on to help you out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 10:49:05 AM
I should have plenty of time to do so, as it's stand still traffic, EVERYDAY.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2018, 10:52:06 AM
I drive through it every day as well for a much longer distance bud. Thankfully I'm going the opposite direction cause eastbound in the morning looks like ass.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 10:54:24 AM
Maybe that's where my frustrations lay. East bound on the way to work and west bound on the way home are just giant crap shows everyday. I'll look out for construction more from here on out, but I just feel like I haven't seen it. Maybe they're getting their work in during the day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 08, 2018, 10:57:23 AM
Maybe that's where my frustrations lay. East bound on the way to work and west bound on the way home are just giant crap shows everyday. I'll look out for construction more from here on out, but I just feel like I haven't seen it. Maybe they're getting their work in during the day.

Can I get a distance traveled / time spent estimate Wacky?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2018, 10:59:12 AM
you colossal eff stain

my goodness sakes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 11:00:36 AM
If this is a Chicago vs KC battle of frustration of traffic, i'll happily tap out 8man. I just think it's silly it takes me anywhere from 20-30 minutes to go 6.5 miles.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 11:04:53 AM
If this is a Chicago vs KC battle of frustration of traffic, i'll happily tap out 8man. I just think it's silly it takes me anywhere from 20-30 minutes to go 6.5 miles.
This is legit how long it use to take me to get home to downtown when we lived there from here. If that makes anymore sense of why it would be annoying now that i'm so close.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2018, 11:19:53 AM
Just take 103rd, I'm sure it's faster
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 11:21:36 AM
Yeah, I've tried it. There's a lot of lights, but I'll try it again. :thumbs:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 08, 2018, 11:23:29 AM
so i guess we scrapped the idea to replace the buck o'neil bridge?
SB lanes will be closed for repairs from may 19 until december  :sdeek:

these are interim repairs.  It takes years to design, plan and build that kind of bridge.

thanks for answering my question mikeyis4dcats
MARC data showed 2023 for new buck bridge.

Pretty excited for it and potential north loop transformational change it could make to downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 08, 2018, 01:11:09 PM
If this is a Chicago vs KC battle of frustration of traffic, i'll happily tap out 8man. I just think it's silly it takes me anywhere from 20-30 minutes to go 6.5 miles.

I was honestly just curious to what engendered this level of frustration... I take a train to work anyway.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 08, 2018, 01:14:07 PM
If this is a Chicago vs KC battle of frustration of traffic, i'll happily tap out 8man. I just think it's silly it takes me anywhere from 20-30 minutes to go 6.5 miles.

I was honestly just curious to what engendered this level of frustration... I take a train to work anyway.
can it, eff stain
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 08, 2018, 01:18:42 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 08:11:29 AM
Just take 103rd, I'm sure it's faster
Saved me 5 minutes today, friend.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2018, 08:16:03 AM
103rd from quivira to roe is a great tour of 1950's-1970's split level americana
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 08:18:18 AM
It really is. That's gotta be a private golf course that's right there, right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 09, 2018, 08:19:41 AM
It really is. That's gotta be a private golf course that's right there, right?

I think Brookridge - developers have been trying to build it out for 4 years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 08:21:11 AM
 :thumbs: Thanks, it just feels tucked away, so I assumed so. I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 09, 2018, 08:23:44 AM
There is a house at 103rd and roe that has a wrap around secod story deck and a bridge connecting it to a gazebo thats way up in the air too and it is looks so awesome
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2018, 08:35:42 AM
right around roe there is a pretty dramatic shift in house style. leawood is v nice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 09:04:53 AM
Did you guys see Martin City Brewery is opening a new location over here by Mission Farms? I'm pretty pumped for that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2018, 10:29:17 AM
i’d take college if it were me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 09, 2018, 10:30:13 AM
He'd have to cross 435 twice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 10:31:32 AM
Yeah, way too many lights to deal with in that scenario. I think 103rd will do the trick, since I live off 99th.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 09, 2018, 11:08:33 AM
Did you guys see Martin City Brewery is opening a new location over here by Mission Farms? I'm pretty pumped for that.

Yeah I have high hopes, as it is walkable.  :peek:. I never stepped foot in Pizza Bella or whatever previously occupied the space.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 11:11:22 AM
Did you guys see Martin City Brewery is opening a new location over here by Mission Farms? I'm pretty pumped for that.

Yeah I have high hopes, as it is walkable.  :peek:. I never stepped foot in Pizza Bella or whatever previously occupied the space.
:thumbs: Same when it comes to Pizza Bella. That place will be a nice $5-7 Uber ride home for me on Friday HH's.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 09, 2018, 11:12:52 AM
Good job being responsible  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 11:14:05 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 09, 2018, 11:20:33 AM
tons of eff stains ITT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2018, 08:58:04 PM
https://twitter.com/kclightrail/status/994232049165852672?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
Hope that's leading to jobs :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2018, 09:02:14 PM
who needs jobs when the streetcar prints money?  my pussyass just walks behind it with a vacuum
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 09:09:55 PM
So the millionaire choo choo train isn't helping local residents? We needed this to show our man hood vs helping the locals get to where they need to be vs helping homeless vets? Makes sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2018, 09:30:21 PM
So the millionaire choo choo train isn't helping local residents? We needed this to show our man hood vs helping the locals get to where they need to be vs helping homeless vets? Makes sense.

what in the world does this even mean?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 09:32:24 PM
You legit gaf where it takes you


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
Dgaf*


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2018, 09:34:34 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself wacks :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2018, 09:34:44 PM
You legit gaf where it takes you


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 :bartender: :beersmiley:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 09:37:08 PM
You guys are legit too busy on the road from this mess of KC


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2018, 09:40:50 PM
You guys are legit too busy on the road from this mess of KC


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maybe?  Maybe not?  Profound comment Wacks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
So 2 rubes being taken care of from their jobs? Priceless!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2018, 09:44:59 PM
Speaking of printing money....KCMO sales tax take skyrocketing downtown!  So excited to see the whole city benefit from this extra tax funds....not to mention property tax!

https://twitter.com/TomGerend/status/994406240506777600

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 09, 2018, 09:45:39 PM
So 2 rubes being taken care of from their jobs? Priceless!

Hopefully you aren't  :driving: 

Call an uber friend
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2018, 09:46:28 PM
So Southwest is good, right?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 09, 2018, 11:26:30 PM
Does Waze help in KC?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 10, 2018, 08:21:58 AM
drunk wacky is best wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2018, 08:24:03 AM
Does Waze help in KC?
lol

we have a 4 minute slowdown on the 35 right where it hits the 435 eastbound, hop off and take the surface roads to avoid the congestion
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2018, 08:26:26 AM
waze is completely dependent upon user input.  potential waze users in kc are too busy tracking down the closest cracker barrel to deal with the many traffic snarls that kc commuters deal with on the daily
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 08:26:51 AM
drunk wacky is best wacky
I swear to god if this doctor doesn't sign soon, you'll see the best of the best tonight.  :bang: :curse: Plus, my favorite person got let go at work yesterday.  :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 10, 2018, 08:42:24 AM
YASSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2018, 09:01:21 AM


Does Waze help in KC?
lol

we have a 4 minute slowdown on the 35 right where it hits the 435 eastbound, hop off and take the surface roads to avoid the congestion



"the 35"

:love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2018, 09:36:44 AM
Does Waze help in KC?
I use it when i have to drive to a thing in the burbs from downtown...last week had to go two days in a row and it took my 35 one day and 71 the next....I'm not an experienced commuter to know if it actually helps or not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 09:46:28 AM
Wait, you live downtown?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2018, 10:01:55 AM


Does Waze help in KC?
lol

we have a 4 minute slowdown on the 35 right where it hits the 435 eastbound, hop off and take the surface roads to avoid the congestion



"the 35"

:love:

I'm going to start doing this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2018, 10:06:43 AM
Wait, you live downtown?
Don't be mean wacky. We can't all escape.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 10:07:49 AM
 :lol: It's called growing up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 10, 2018, 10:11:50 AM
wacky, the voice of those who have grown up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2018, 10:13:26 AM
As an aside: how did the wackycat08 v. Slyin phil fued start? I really don't remember slyin phil being a jerk like mocat or the other turd eaters. What's the backstory?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 10, 2018, 10:21:36 AM
streetcar lovin' phil lives in kc, and wacky used to, but not anymore, because he's grown up and traffic there is a shitshow, and wacky doesn't appreciate being looked down upon because he still is a tax payer in kc mo when crushing $1 buds at bar louie's with his bros, and eff the streetcar

something to that effect
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 10:22:19 AM
I kinda mistake phil and mocat. They're pretty much the same poster. But he's been following me around pretty well lately. He really hates those who have separate opinions vs his, just like mocat.

wacky, the voice of those who have grown up
:gocho: I mean, like, I'm not going to apologize for moving away from downtown at 33 and growing up like 99% of the rest of the population does.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 10:22:59 AM
streetcar lovin' phil lives in kc, and wacky used to, but not anymore, because he's grown up and traffic there is a shitshow, and wacky doesn't appreciate being looked down upon because he still is a tax payer in kc mo when crushing $1 buds at bar louie's with his bros, and eff the streetcar

something to that effect
:lol: :cheers:

He's very smug
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2018, 10:40:47 AM
I can't even imagine how my posts compared to the gE world of posts would ever lead anybody to those two conclusions but there we have it...I've learned a lot about myself...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 10, 2018, 10:42:54 AM
wacky: the authority on all things of being an adult.  except for when he gets bombed every night and makes incomprehensible posts on message boards.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 10:45:39 AM
wacky: the authority on all things of being an adult.  except for when he gets bombed every night and makes incomprehensible posts on message boards.
Every night? Go eff yourself dlew.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 10:46:17 AM
I can't even imagine how my posts compared to the gE world of posts would ever lead anybody to those two conclusions but there we have it...I've learned a lot about myself...
Yeah man, totally bizarre.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2018, 10:49:40 AM
I'm a much more well rounded poster than phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2018, 10:51:04 AM
If you feel hated because I have a different opinion than you, that's on you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 10, 2018, 10:52:10 AM
wacky: the authority on all things of being an adult.  except for when he gets bombed every night routinely and makes incomprehensible posts on message boards.
Every night? Go eff yourself dlew.
sorry for the oversight
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2018, 10:53:03 AM
This is almost undoubtedly true for anybody on here. 
I'm a much more well rounded poster than phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
I can't even imagine how my posts compared to the gE world of posts would ever lead anybody to those two conclusions but there we have it...I've learned a lot about myself...
Yeah man, totally bizarre.
So angry when not one angry word has been posted @ you....don't keep driving me away wacks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 10:58:43 AM
wacky: the authority on all things of being an adult.  except for when he gets bombed every night routinely and makes incomprehensible posts on message boards.
Every night? Go eff yourself dlew.
sorry for the oversight
Yes, on a board where everyone brags about how PAK'd they get, i'm the rough ridin' monster. Thanks for breaking down my alcoholism, Dr. 'lew. Plus, not that it rough ridin' matters, but I stopped drinking during the week this year. Had a rough day yesterday and got blitzed. My bad. You're right, I have some faults.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 10, 2018, 11:04:20 AM
 :rolleyes:

you acted like big mr. adult for living in a suburb [?] and i made fun of you because you act like a child on this board on a regular basis. 

if you don't want to be made fun of for that then don't do it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 11:10:31 AM
Phil makes several comments about ppl "escaping" once they move away from downtown. Sorry if that's a process in life once you're over 30 and married. It was a snarly comeback between him and I. I in no way feel or try to act like i'm mr big boy responsible adult. I definitely am fighting the aging process if anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 10, 2018, 11:12:23 AM
I definitely am fighting the aging process if anything.
no crap.  i'm not attacking you - i'm giving you crap for flexing about how grown up you are, you dingbat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 11:13:46 AM
 :cheers: Love you, dlew. You know i'm defensive. Sorry.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 10, 2018, 11:48:26 AM
yet others are snowflakes, can't make this crap up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 10, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
Pro tip...30+ and married doesn't mean you have to do a damn thing except live your life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 12:02:47 PM
yet others are snowflakes, can't make this crap up
look in the mirror
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 10, 2018, 12:03:26 PM
I think it’s great team building for this board to collectively come together to ruin threads now that TBT isn’t here to do it single handidly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 10, 2018, 12:07:16 PM
wait, why isn't TBT here? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2018, 12:17:43 PM
wait, why isn't TBT here? 

:You're Banned:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2018, 12:32:32 PM
streetcar lovin' phil lives in kc, and wacky used to, but not anymore, because he's grown up and traffic there is a shitshow, and wacky doesn't appreciate being looked down upon because he still is a tax payer in kc mo when crushing $1 buds at bar louie's with his bros, and eff the streetcar

something to that effect

 :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2018, 01:06:06 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 11, 2018, 08:33:01 AM
disappointed to get to work and check the blog only to find out that wacks didn't get 'faced last night  :angry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 11, 2018, 08:36:58 AM
disappointed to get to work and check the blog only to find out that wacks didn't get 'faced last night  :angry:

yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 11, 2018, 08:37:54 AM
I know 2 of the mayoral candidates.  Should we fire up a separate KCMayor thread or...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2018, 08:43:21 AM
rain in the am? (https://www.iconsdb.com/icons/preview/green/check-mark-3-xxl.png)

high of like a million? (https://www.iconsdb.com/icons/preview/green/check-mark-3-xxl.png)

city made of like 99% asphalt surface lots? (https://www.iconsdb.com/icons/preview/green/check-mark-3-xxl.png)



guess what kansas citians, gym fees are waived today and you all have free access to mother earth's au naturel sauna
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2018, 08:44:30 AM
I know 2 of the mayoral candidates.  Should we fire up a separate KCMayor thread or...

good idea. sly has been mayor for almost all of gE's life. election needs its own thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 11, 2018, 08:45:32 AM
Who will piss off joco the most?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 08:50:31 AM
disappointed to get to work and check the blog only to find out that wacks didn't get 'faced last night  :angry:

yes
Sorry guys.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 11, 2018, 08:53:25 AM
you must have closed that doctor ass, you old sonuvagun you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2018, 08:58:06 AM
Jolie is my favorite rn
I know 2 of the mayoral candidates.  Should we fire up a separate KCMayor thread or...

good idea. sly has been mayor for almost all of gE's life. election needs its own thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2018, 08:58:54 AM
it's so weird to see the kc cheerleader star promoting the streetcar
without that piece I would have no idea that the streetcar has been perfect.  my own eyes even lie, I see the streetcar daily, usually with 1-2 people on it, but hey- kc cheerleader star knows what's up better than my eyeballs (perfect vision fwiw) and every downtown business loves it unconditionally and will forever even after the novelty wears off  and it's smart to divert cars off of main street to make room for the streetcar/savior of kc.

dax, how many people have ridden the streetcar since its inception, based on your eyeballs? i want to know how far off they are with the "1 millionth" rider BS from last month


https://twitter.com/kclightrail/status/994232049165852672



i wonder if the novelty will wear off in year 3?  :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 08:59:45 AM
you must have closed that doctor ass, you old sonuvagun you
Yup!

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEduKVQdG4c0JVPSo/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 11, 2018, 09:05:15 AM
Do you have to call them doctors to their face as like a PR move?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 09:05:54 AM
Yeah, pretty much. I lol about it on the side.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 11, 2018, 09:07:33 AM
lol  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 11, 2018, 09:49:14 AM
dentist is not a doctor and someone in your company needs to have the balls to set the record straight
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 09:52:02 AM
I'm all about building egos if it means I get another farm.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 11, 2018, 10:31:35 AM
how many bottles of svedka does one dentist equal?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 10:56:57 AM
how many bottles of svedka does one dentist equal?
Oh man. 50 bottles.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2018, 11:16:23 AM
how many bottles of svedka does one dentist equal?
Oh man. 50 bottles.

seems getting pak'd when be when you signed them then, not when you haven't...or was that just frustration boozin'?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on May 11, 2018, 11:20:08 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/46/c3/3e/46c33ec28a9e3639a33a2e1dda785913.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 11:22:18 AM
Frustration on Wednesday for sure, plus I lost my Regional Director who I loved


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 11, 2018, 11:23:36 AM
like you were out hiking and got separated lost, or he/she died?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 11:24:15 AM
Lol. They crap canned my guy.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 11, 2018, 11:27:57 AM
I'd can a dude who called a dentist a doctor too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 11:28:37 AM
:lol:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2018, 11:35:33 AM
Lol. They crap canned my guy.


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watch out who you hitch your wagon too in corporate america that's for sure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 11, 2018, 11:42:08 AM
Fired a bunch of deadweight at my job too, good riddance
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 11:55:04 AM
Did I ever tell you guys dentist are #1 alcoholic and suicide career out there? I legit host about a 1000 happy hours/beer tours a year, because they can't get enough.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 11, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
imagine your career spent working inside random strangers mouths, inflicting discomfort, pain, and agony to them, and dealing with insurance companies. 

whatever they're paid, it's not enough, hard pass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2018, 12:00:22 PM
Yeah, I totally get it. No thanks!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2018, 12:56:31 PM
Bike lane news!

* Protected bike lane construction started on Armor today in midtown.

* bike lanes through westside were completed this week

* 18th street bike lanes painted this summer

* Grand bike lanes will be switched to protected bike lanes in the next year with PIAC funds

* Plans well underway to turn Paseo into a bikeway from Independence to 85th - 19 miles of protected bikeway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 11, 2018, 01:01:58 PM
whatever removes them from car lanes  :thumbs: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 11, 2018, 01:17:45 PM
If all those bike lanes are built, it should be imprisonment if a bicyclist bikes outside of the lanes.

It should be imprisonment to ride a bike once one's education is complete, but it may take another generation or two before the world comes around on that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2018, 01:20:46 PM
I'd prefer imprisonment for bikes on sidewalks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 11, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
Personally I view the sidewalk as a bike lane and they should stay there with the other pedestrians
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
yep the world is definitely moving towards eliminating bicycling
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2018, 01:37:04 PM
I'm not even a biker but bike lanes usually equal road diet and that's def. needed in this city of 1,000,000 lanes of roads and no traffic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 11, 2018, 01:45:27 PM
yep the world is definitely moving towards eliminating bicycling

Push one into the lagoon at a time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 14, 2018, 09:18:31 AM
Fired a bunch of deadweight at my job too, good riddance

I noticed one of my guys got axed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on May 14, 2018, 04:56:24 PM
Did I ever tell you guys dentist are #1 alcoholic and suicide career out there? I legit host about a 1000 happy hours/beer tours a year, because they can't get enough.

its because of mercury poisoning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 14, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
Bike lane news!

* Protected bike lane construction started on Armor today in midtown.

* bike lanes through westside were completed this week

* 18th street bike lanes painted this summer

* Grand bike lanes will be switched to protected bike lanes in the next year with PIAC funds

* Plans well underway to turn Paseo into a bikeway from Independence to 85th - 19 miles of protected bikeway

What are five shitty places in Kansas City nobody would ever bike to, Alex?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 09:02:09 AM
Apparently someone was shot and killed outside of my gym yesterday after I got done with my swim, so that's awesome. #KCMO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2018, 09:06:18 AM
Heard on the radio this morning and was hoping it wasn't our guy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 09:07:44 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2018, 09:11:48 AM
same thing happened outside the uptown on friday night (luked?)

i would love it if there weren't shootings in places that i frequent
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 09:43:17 AM
117th and Hardy too.... :Sad:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 09:48:20 AM
I really hate it when ppl cross state lines to commit crimes.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 09:50:56 AM
@Phil Titola , don't you work underneath 'slys desk? What's KCMO's crime rate like these days? We still ranked in the top 25 in the nation? :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 09:55:00 AM
14th!  :emawkid: https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 11:44:11 AM


@Phil Titola , don't you work underneath 'slys desk?

Rude.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2018, 11:56:20 AM
@Phil Titola , don't you work underneath 'slys desk? What's KCMO's crime rate like these days? We still ranked in the top 25 in the nation? :crossfingers:

sly titola: the mayor doesn’t control the police force therefore he cannot control crime in the city which he governs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 17, 2018, 12:27:34 PM
bike lanes are great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 17, 2018, 01:03:28 PM
yet others are snowflakes, can't make this crap up
look in the mirror

All I see is wackycat08
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 01:19:49 PM
@Phil Titola , don't you work underneath 'slys desk? What's KCMO's crime rate like these days? We still ranked in the top 25 in the nation? :crossfingers:

sly titola: the mayor doesn’t control the police force therefore he cannot control crime in the city which he governs
Local control of PD (like every other city in the nation) would be a good step and would remove the excuse politicians have had for years for their failures with crime in this city....and is not going to magically fix it.

This is a problem decades in the making...but definitely sly should have resolved it all in his term.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 01:21:49 PM
In good news, I successfully went to Target over lunch without getting shot, so I was pretty excited about that. Beer cheese dip, here we come!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 01:23:20 PM
In good news, I successfully went to Target over lunch without getting shot, so I was pretty excited about that. Beer cheese dip, here we come!
That oak Park Mall target is pretty sketch....glad you are okay.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 01:24:01 PM
Thanks. Kinda wanted to check things out. Fox 4 was out there doing live reports.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 01:43:17 PM
Don't diddle someone else's mate and you stand a good chance of not being shot outside your gym (or anywhere)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Is that the official word? How has nobody ratted out the shooter yet? I'm sure his buds probably knew what was up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 02:11:22 PM
Is that the official word? How has nobody ratted out the shooter yet? I'm sure his buds probably knew what was up.
Just my hunch.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 02:12:10 PM
Yeah, i'd expect that's pretty much right on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: deputy dawg on May 17, 2018, 02:39:07 PM
Maybe his buds are stand-up guys that would not snitch.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2018, 02:41:03 PM
Maybe his buds are stand-up guys that would not snitch.  :dunno:
A lot of buds go to the gym together there. I was assuming the dead guy might have some friends who knew what was going on and might be open to helping out their dead friend killer get caught.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2018, 02:57:15 PM
@Phil Titola , don't you work underneath 'slys desk? What's KCMO's crime rate like these days? We still ranked in the top 25 in the nation? :crossfingers:

sly titola: the mayor doesn’t control the police force therefore he cannot control crime in the city which he governs
Local control of PD (like every other city in the nation) would be a good step and would remove the excuse politicians have had for years for their failures with crime in this city....and is not going to magically fix it.

This is a problem decades in the making...but definitely sly should have resolved it all in his term.

great point, sly titola.  the real victim of crime in kc is slyin james, it’s almost unfathomable what previous mayoral administrations have done to this poor man, bless his heart

the truth is that the percentage increase of violent crime during slyin’s tenure, when graphed out, looks like the biggest hockey stick that you’v ever seen.  higher increases than any previous group of mayors combined.  too bad for his fellow victims that he had no weapons at his disposal to help fix the trend oh well streetcar baby and airport too.  now if we’re being honest the only credit that slyin deserves for those two things is that he ignored the will of his constituents, way to go slyin .  but honesty and slyin just don’t mix
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 03:38:38 PM


@Phil Titola , don't you work underneath 'slys desk? What's KCMO's crime rate like these days? We still ranked in the top 25 in the nation? :crossfingers:

sly titola: the mayor doesn’t control the police force therefore he cannot control crime in the city which he governs
Local control of PD (like every other city in the nation) would be a good step and would remove the excuse politicians have had for years for their failures with crime in this city....and is not going to magically fix it.

This is a problem decades in the making...but definitely sly should have resolved it all in his term.

great point, sly titola.  the real victim of crime in kc is slyin james, it’s almost unfathomable what previous mayoral administrations have done to this poor man, bless his heart

the truth is that the percentage increase of violent crime during slyin’s tenure, when graphed out, looks like the biggest hockey stick that you’v ever seen.  higher increases than any previous group of mayors combined.  too bad for his fellow victims that he had no weapons at his disposal to help fix the trend oh well streetcar baby and airport too.  now if we’re being honest the only credit that slyin deserves for those two things is that he ignored the will of his constituents, way to go slyin .  but honesty and slyin just don’t mix

Please provide such chart.

Mixing streetcar/airport to crime is just being a dumdum
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 17, 2018, 04:49:17 PM
everyone knows the streetcar has nothing to do with criminal liability.  the destruction and bodily harm that thing causes is 100% civil.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 06:12:05 PM
I was part of the full scale kci plane crash yesterday....it was quite a morning...actually pretty boring but cool to be on the airfield with all the fire stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 17, 2018, 07:08:36 PM
What crash
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2018, 07:13:56 PM
What crash
The full scale exercise to test emergency response.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2018, 10:35:53 PM
@WackyCat08
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/did-you-know-dogs-arent-allowed-on-patios-in-kc-but-that-could-change
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2018, 08:36:26 AM
@WackyCat08
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/did-you-know-dogs-arent-allowed-on-patios-in-kc-but-that-could-change
My god. My worst nightmare. Dog urine and food mixed together. I'm all for it if you have trained your pets properly. I just don't need martini Jane letting her shitty dog off the leash humping my leg and having her say nothing because she's half deep into a bottle of titos <----- Real story from the river market
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2018, 09:49:34 AM
Ugh

https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/997487983149305857
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2018, 10:25:38 AM
i want the leawood mayor's head on a platter
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2018, 10:31:17 AM
Too close to state line. It was definitely Missouri runts who caused this crime.  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2018, 10:46:50 AM
i want the leawood mayor's head on a platter

i bet this kansas city, missouri high school would have had their kansas city, missouri high school graduation in kansas city, missouri, if only...um, never mind
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2018, 10:47:34 AM
Too close to state line. It was definitely Missouri runts who caused this crime.  :curse:
Accurate
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2018, 10:49:21 AM
i want the leawood mayor's head on a platter

i bet this kansas city, missouri high school would have had their kansas city, missouri high school graduation in kansas city, missouri, if only...um, never mind
It's obvious still soley slys fault....how can we get this into the hockeystick crime chart?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2018, 10:50:22 AM
the hockey stick just got a little hockey stickier
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2018, 10:51:07 AM
'sly is legit handing guns to KCMO residents so he can stay ranked in the top 15 of most criminal US cities. Just to stay relevant in something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2018, 10:53:20 AM
'sly is legit handing guns to KCMO residents so he can stay ranked in the top 15 of most criminal US cities. Just to stay relevant in something.
No such thing as bad publicity.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2018, 10:57:20 AM
i want the leawood mayor's head on a platter

i bet this kansas city, missouri high school would have had their kansas city, missouri high school graduation in kansas city, missouri, if only...um, never mind
It's obvious still soley slys fault....how can we get this into the hockeystick crime chart?

why didn’t they have the graduation in kcmo?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2018, 10:58:37 AM
i want the leawood mayor's head on a platter

i bet this kansas city, missouri high school would have had their kansas city, missouri high school graduation in kansas city, missouri, if only...um, never mind
It's obvious still soley slys fault....how can we get this into the hockeystick crime chart?

why didn’t they have the graduation in kcmo?
Too crimey
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2018, 10:59:31 AM
really makes you think
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2018, 10:59:44 AM
'sly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2018, 11:00:34 AM
You don't really have to think that hard to know KCMO is a giant cesspool of trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2018, 11:02:11 AM
aquinas/BV/SM schools really ought to consider ending their practice of having prom/graduation in kcmo venues
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2018, 11:02:58 AM
i’d say good comeback but it wasn’t one because you really don’t have one because you’re unable to speak critically about the city that you have tattooed on your ballsack

and hey, what’s funnier than making light of kids getting shot in a church parking lot at their high school graduation?!?!!  when you got nothing else, I guess...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2018, 11:06:33 AM
Holy crap!  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2018, 11:11:22 AM
i’d say good comeback but it wasn’t one because you really don’t have one because you’re unable to speak critically about the city that you have tattooed on your ballsack

and hey, what’s funnier than making light of kids getting shot in a church parking lot at their high school graduation?!?!!  when you got nothing else, I guess...

well they're just trashy kcmo residents so they were going to shoot at each other anyway. it only made the news because it happened in leawood
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2018, 11:11:48 AM
this irl might be the first shooting in the history of leawood
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2018, 11:12:35 AM
Bad timing to have mo in your name.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2018, 12:37:28 PM
Guys has anybody known (or themselves done) LLS man of the year in KC or anywhere else? I'm getting bugged to do it and id like to know what I'm getting myself into ....I'm not a sales guy who would shake 1000 hands so not sure I'm the right person for this endeavor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 18, 2018, 01:31:12 PM
Guys has anybody known (or themselves done) LLS man of the year in KC or anywhere else? I'm getting bugged to do it and id like to know what I'm getting myself into ....I'm not a sales guy who would shake 1000 hands so not sure I'm the right person for this endeavor.

I have known many moty and woty.  It is a pretty cool honor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2018, 03:08:08 PM
Guys has anybody known (or themselves done) LLS man of the year in KC or anywhere else? I'm getting bugged to do it and id like to know what I'm getting myself into ....I'm not a sales guy who would shake 1000 hands so not sure I'm the right person for this endeavor.

of course, go for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on May 18, 2018, 03:17:04 PM
I think you should raise some money for a great cause Phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2018, 04:02:49 PM
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The Man & Woman of the Year competition will come to a close on May 17, 2018 with a celebration at the Downtown Marriott Kansas City.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2018, 04:15:42 PM
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The Man & Woman of the Year competition will come to a close on May 17, 2018 with a celebration at the Downtown Marriott Kansas City.

 :confused:
Yeah the ones asking were at the event last night and decided I should do it for 2019.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2018, 04:16:30 PM
Guys has anybody known (or themselves done) LLS man of the year in KC or anywhere else? I'm getting bugged to do it and id like to know what I'm getting myself into ....I'm not a sales guy who would shake 1000 hands so not sure I'm the right person for this endeavor.

I have known many moty and woty.  It is a pretty cool honor
How much did they pressure you or others to go to their events, give, etc...that's what I'm not sure fan of doing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on May 18, 2018, 04:24:42 PM
Guys has anybody known (or themselves done) LLS man of the year in KC or anywhere else? I'm getting bugged to do it and id like to know what I'm getting myself into ....I'm not a sales guy who would shake 1000 hands so not sure I'm the right person for this endeavor.

I have known many moty and woty.  It is a pretty cool honor
How much did they pressure you or others to go to their events, give, etc...that's what I'm not sure fan of doing.

That crap's easy, as evidenced by the gold bowling pin awarded to gE in 2011, won handily with just a month or so of concentrated PI.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2018, 05:28:16 PM
Guys has anybody known (or themselves done) LLS man of the year in KC or anywhere else? I'm getting bugged to do it and id like to know what I'm getting myself into ....I'm not a sales guy who would shake 1000 hands so not sure I'm the right person for this endeavor.

I have known many moty and woty.  It is a pretty cool honor
How much did they pressure you or others to go to their events, give, etc...that's what I'm not sure fan of doing.

That crap's easy, as evidenced by the gold bowling pin awarded to gE in 2011, won handily with just a month or so of concentrated PI.

omfg :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2018, 02:15:37 PM
https://twitter.com/JoyceKC/status/998599489622593536
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2018, 02:17:48 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/40/55/85/4055857fbe0ecef35e2d68bd01e5ed04--shrunken-head-dark-art.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2018, 02:18:34 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2018, 02:40:56 PM
westport is such trash, i would guess that their definition of "high end bottle service" translates to cans of Four Loko
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2018, 02:41:09 PM
Westport is doing it's best to turn everyone off.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 23, 2018, 02:48:09 PM
cans of Four Loko
:love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2018, 04:51:20 PM
the Union circa like 2011-2013 was such a wild time, my goodness
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 23, 2018, 09:33:58 PM
the Union circa like 2011-2013 was such a wild time, my goodness

truly the glory days
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 10:37:38 AM
Martin City finally opened and their menu looks amaze. I think we're doing dinner there tonight.

http://martincitybrewingcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MCBC_MissionFarms_Menu_2018_05_18.pdf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on May 24, 2018, 12:34:29 PM
the Union circa like 2011-2013 was such a wild time, my goodness

 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2018, 01:57:52 PM
Martin City finally opened and their menu looks amaze. I think we're doing dinner there tonight.

http://martincitybrewingcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MCBC_MissionFarms_Menu_2018_05_18.pdf

amaze
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 02:01:02 PM
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HONEY & BACON BRUSSEL SPROUTS
roasted brussel sprouts with honey dijon vinaigrette,
yellow onion and bacon | SM 6 | LG 11

TAKE MY $!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 24, 2018, 02:17:35 PM
i'll take one apple pizza, plz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2018, 02:48:08 PM
caesar salad :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2018, 02:55:26 PM
gluten free pizza???   :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 07:12:18 PM
Sprouts were burnt and the service was slow, but it is their first week. I gave it a "B". Beer is fantastic.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180525/138b99abf6ea2b3dc698251bda475270.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180525/8c96cb073a9b72755c91aca11a5f1de2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180525/6be859f9d5f8f01668cd216685eb2f4e.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 24, 2018, 07:14:18 PM
‘Za looks absolutely dreadful
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2018, 07:14:32 PM
raw pizza, disgusting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2018, 07:15:14 PM
is that an egg yolk pooling up in the middle?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 07:15:54 PM
Breakfast pizza 'za. I should have just gone with my gut and got the buffalo chicken 'za.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 07:16:16 PM
is that an egg yolk pooling up in the middle?
Lol. Yup.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2018, 08:00:14 PM
B?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 08:01:31 PM
That's the grade. Pizza was good.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 24, 2018, 08:03:37 PM
yikes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2018, 08:09:37 PM
That place is pure fanman to the max, enjoy it bud :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2018, 08:10:16 PM
Martin city beers are generally p good iirc I will say
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
:thumbs:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 08:13:44 PM
They are. Sprouts sucked, but their pizza is legit. I'll give them a pass on the service for their first week open. Just happy we have something new down here. I know this will start a riot, because the egg and ketchup debate we had, but they don't carry ketchup. :(


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2018, 08:35:03 PM
Yeah I got it was the grade....based on the descriptions didn't seem like a B grade but I get grading on a curve with them being new.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 24, 2018, 08:39:35 PM
sprouts are supposed to be burnt, ya sproutnoob. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 08:40:11 PM
Yeah, trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. Being next door to work, I should have ample opportunities to try other items. Former server in me knows they're trying to figure things out. Especially in a packed house.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2018, 08:41:25 PM
sprouts are supposed to be burnt, ya sproutnoob.
Are they supposed to taste like burnt popcorn, but with a sprout texture?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 24, 2018, 09:59:25 PM
They're supposed to taste like brussel sprouts drenched in olive oil and burnt to high hell.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 25, 2018, 12:52:38 AM
Why do Kansas City places insist on serving water in plastic cups? Gross
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2018, 07:51:55 AM
Why do Kansas City places insist on serving water in plastic cups? Gross
I can't think of any place that does this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2018, 07:53:31 AM
If you are in KC this weekend and don't have plans, load up a backpack with your favorite booze drink and go to celebration at the station Sunday night. It is a great time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 25, 2018, 07:58:01 AM
Why do Kansas City places insist on serving water in plastic cups? Gross
I can't think of any place that does this.

Phil have you been to martin city brewing in leawood?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2018, 08:30:25 AM
Why do Kansas City places insist on serving water in plastic cups? Gross
I can't think of any place that does this.

Phil have you been to martin city brewing in leawood?
Ahhh now I'm seeing those pictures and I can think of a few places but they are all like sports bar types....that seems acceptable for water distribution.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 25, 2018, 11:03:10 AM
A lot of bar places do it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 25, 2018, 11:07:32 AM
yeah that's been a pretty common practice by bars in ev-er-y city i've lived in
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 25, 2018, 11:09:46 AM
mich would probably also complain if they served it an old wine bottle and left it at the table
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 25, 2018, 06:04:40 PM
crap loads of neck neck beards at martin city brewery
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 25, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
I want my ice water served in a glass, dammit.

And I think the branded reusable plastic cups might be the aspect that is more uniquely Midwest. I can't think of any place that does this out here. (Elite west coast). It could be I just don't go to shitty sports bars.

There are bars that serve water in disposable plastic cups when it's busy though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 25, 2018, 06:23:03 PM
it’s very tanners
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2018, 06:34:43 PM
it’s very tanners
Tanner's....always on the cutting edge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 25, 2018, 07:29:57 PM
it’s very tanners
Tanner's....always on the cutting edge

They also have chicken lips!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 25, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
New Tanner's at 39th and rainbow is super elite.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 26, 2018, 06:12:29 PM
If you are in KC this weekend and don't have plans, load up a backpack with your favorite booze drink and go to celebration at the station Sunday night. It is a great time.

Canco, this used to be a must for young dd.  It’s pretty moving when they read letters from soldiers who died while playing music.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 26, 2018, 06:28:33 PM
Tanners isn't trying to be cutting edge, guys. They're trying to fill your fat faces with booze and fried crap while you stay level with plastic water. Works every time.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 26, 2018, 06:31:43 PM
Also, falloon isn't that far behind tanners other than location
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2018, 07:44:28 PM
If you are in KC this weekend and don't have plans, load up a backpack with your favorite booze drink and go to celebration at the station Sunday night. It is a great time.

Canco, this used to be a must for young dd.  It’s pretty moving when they read letters from soldiers who died while playing music.
My parents love the living F out of this thing. Are regulars
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 26, 2018, 07:47:22 PM
Independence folks?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2018, 07:48:05 AM
Burrrrrn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 29, 2018, 04:11:06 PM
 :love:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/38296952/wahlburgers-announces-new-location-coming-to-olathe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 29, 2018, 05:20:12 PM
:love:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/38296952/wahlburgers-announces-new-location-coming-to-olathe
Weren't these going to go in to all hyvees?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 29, 2018, 07:30:33 PM
I have no idea. I've never ate at one. Just seen them on their show. Always wanted to try it since Mark is a huge stud!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 29, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
I have no idea. I've never ate at one. Just seen them on their show. Always wanted to try it since Mark is a huge stud!
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article170373207.htm
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2018, 05:45:04 AM
Olathe is the perfect location
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 30, 2018, 08:27:44 AM
I have no idea. I've never ate at one. Just seen them on their show. Always wanted to try it since Mark is a huge stud!
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article170373207.htm
This link doesn't work, bud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 30, 2018, 10:38:06 AM
the whole foods opened in the south plaza.  it already isn’t big enough but it’s great

amazon announced today that they expanded the extra 10% off for prime members which is great

pro tip- park in the neighboring church lot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 30, 2018, 11:21:55 AM
2022 pro tip....take the streetcar
the whole foods opened in the south plaza.  it already isn’t big enough but it’s great

amazon announced today that they expanded the extra 10% off for prime members which is great

pro tip- park in the neighboring church lot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 30, 2018, 11:27:24 AM
it will be bankrupt by then and in a museum honoring how not to waste taxpayers money
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 30, 2018, 12:18:17 PM
it will be bankrupt by then and in a museum honoring how not to waste taxpayers money
Like we can get a museum built that fast ....be reasonable clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 30, 2018, 01:12:01 PM
we'll just ask the city to pay for it and the extra laborers needed to complete it overnight. if history has shown us anything, getting the city to finance it won't be a problem
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2018, 04:47:40 PM
The Martin Luther King Jr Kansas City Streetcar Museum  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 30, 2018, 06:15:41 PM
that would make a good name for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2018, 09:26:22 PM
anybody up for a little Jazzoo party tomorrow?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2018, 09:46:03 PM
would rather shoot myself in the head

you need a couple buck for a new monkey? fine, he’s a $5 spot, go buy a new monkey for the kids to see when they visit the zoo.  want me to put on a rediculous themed tux in 95 degree weather and hang with a bunch of people who can’t handle getting level 7 pak’d?  nope.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2018, 09:49:10 PM
The Martin Luther King Jr Kansas City Streetcar Museum  :love:

just thought of something

The Martin Luther King Jr and Sly James Kansas City Streetcar Museum
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2018, 10:19:46 PM
would rather shoot myself in the head

you need a couple buck for a new monkey? fine, he’s a $5 spot, go buy a new monkey for the kids to see when they visit the zoo.  want me to put on a rediculous themed tux in 95 degree weather and hang with a bunch of people who can’t handle getting level 7 pak’d?  nope.

 :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2018, 11:28:04 PM
Not sure if posted elsewhere but according to ESPN this is "full KC"

http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/24655/as-starting-qb-patrick-mahomes-is-going-full-k-c

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Patrick Mahomes' social calendar was full during May in town. He was spotted at a Jason Aldean concert, threw out the first pitch at a Royals game and wore jorts and a sleeveless baseball jersey to a NASCAR race
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 03, 2018, 08:41:31 AM
he is proving to be v good at this so far
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2018, 12:13:17 PM
Major stud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 04, 2018, 09:38:16 AM
Went to the Big Slick auction Saturday night.   Great showing for KC, raised almosty $2.1mil for Children's Mercy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 04, 2018, 09:46:57 AM
Went to the Big Slick auction Saturday night.   Great showing for KC, raised almosty $2.1mil for Children's Mercy.
That's awesome..
What did you get?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 04, 2018, 04:28:00 PM
Went to the Big Slick auction Saturday night.   Great showing for KC, raised almosty $2.1mil for Children's Mercy.
That's awesome..
What did you get?

I got outbid on the signed Avengers shield that sold for $53k.     Darn the luck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 05, 2018, 05:10:20 PM
http://www.kmbc.com/article/hulu-now-casting-in-atlanta-for-political-dystopian-tv-series-called-kansas-city/21073405

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. —
Imagine a world so divided by politics that leaders decide to split it in half, placing conservatives on one side, and liberals on the other. Now, imagine Kansas City was ground zero for that dividing line.

That's the idea behind a new pilot ordered by Hulu. The show, called "Kansas City", just started casting for filming in Atlanta.

The premise - the city of Kansas City was too evenly divided to align with either side, so it's split in two with the conservatives in western Kansas City - and liberals in eastern KC.

The two sides are walled off from each other like Berlin during the Cold War. Families are separated, and the flow of information between the two sides struggles under the weight of the enmity between the two factions.

In a report on backstage.com, agencies are currently casting for young adults to play high schoolers, and they must have gun-handling experience.

The pilot is scheduled to shoot this month in Atlanta.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 05, 2018, 05:14:31 PM
I cant wait for all the KC'ers to complain about how the geography/setting/locations is not realistic etc etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 05, 2018, 05:18:05 PM
"Gun handling"

Nailed it so far
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 05, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
Atlanta really has started to become the new Hollywood
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 07, 2018, 04:21:05 PM
Can't wait.  :love:

https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1004834391993044992
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2018, 09:09:47 AM
http://www.onlyinyourstate.com/missouri/kansas-city/kc-best-hole-in-the-wall-restaurants/

I've still never been to LC's. Should I go this weekend and blog about it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2018, 09:12:33 AM
2 and 7  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2018, 09:13:33 AM
Yup. I'm a big 11 fan myself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 08, 2018, 09:13:52 AM
For midtown users, you can see the maps of the streetcar extension options of running down. The center or on the curb....

http://kcstreetcar.org/about-streetcar/mainstreet-extension/

I think I'm a center running fan but can see some usage for curb running like around 45th Street.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2018, 09:14:19 AM
Big time craving for french toast now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2018, 09:14:49 AM
:lick:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2018, 09:48:20 AM
I think i'm going to do the LC's platter that comes with the ribs, fries and two meats. Not sure what meats I should get. Mrs. Wacky will either want the turkey or the chicken. Should I do pork for the other one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2018, 10:07:25 AM
it sucks ass but you  might as well bucket list it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2018, 10:08:44 AM
the thing people talk most about are their bbq fat cubes, lc's calls them "burnt ends"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2018, 10:11:09 AM
For midtown users, you can see the maps of the streetcar extension options of running down. The center or on the curb....

http://kcstreetcar.org/about-streetcar/mainstreet-extension/

I think I'm a center running fan but can see some usage for curb running like around 45th Street.

whatever will least disrupt the actual residents of kcmo, as the joco grandparents are getting on/off the toy train.  i think the side is better but that will disrupt the street parking, not that there's much of that along this stretch.  yeah, i'm for doing it on the side.  will cost more but whatevs, we print money in kcmo, everything is free
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2018, 10:11:34 AM
lol dammit. I gotta do it anyway. Mrs wacky is already not thrilled about it. I'll cross it off at least. I just went to the Nelson for the first time last year. What kind of monster Kansas Citian am I?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on June 08, 2018, 11:45:40 AM
lol dammit. I gotta do it anyway. Mrs wacky is already not thrilled about it. I'll cross it off at least. I just went to the Nelson for the first time last year. What kind of monster Kansas Citian am I?

Just carryout some ribs - they were v good about 3 years ago but it was also after a Royals day game
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2018, 01:08:56 PM
Yeah, I'll probably do that this weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 08, 2018, 02:08:39 PM
For midtown users, you can see the maps of the streetcar extension options of running down. The center or on the curb....

http://kcstreetcar.org/about-streetcar/mainstreet-extension/

I think I'm a center running fan but can see some usage for curb running like around 45th Street.

whatever will least disrupt the actual residents of kcmo, as the joco grandparents are getting on/off the toy train.  i think the side is better but that will disrupt the street parking, not that there's much of that along this stretch.  yeah, i'm for doing it on the side.  will cost more but whatevs, we print money in kcmo, everything is free
I don't see either being disruptive....the center running will cause less traffic backups caused by dumb drivers parking over the line and delivery drivers blocking the tracks. It's also a better fit going into the trolley trail.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2018, 03:31:16 PM
is the streetcar still free?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2018, 03:32:52 PM
I might be thinking of it wrong but if it’s in the center, at each stop won’t traffic have to stop going both directions so riders can deboard east and west?  versus a southbound train stopping and only stopping southbound traffic? 

like I said there really isn’t a lot of on street parking along that section of main so that don’t anticipate the issues with over the line parking being a big deal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
is the streetcar still free?

it was never free
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 08, 2018, 03:36:38 PM
is the streetcar still free?

it was never free
Free to ride. My property tax of 250 a year are well worth it.  I haven't calculated my sales tax impact....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2018, 03:39:01 PM
Rent went up $200 when that thing popped up downtown at our place. That would have been a $2400 worth choo choo train on this end. Per year at least.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 08, 2018, 03:39:05 PM
I might be thinking of it wrong but if it’s in the center, at each stop won’t traffic have to stop going both directions so riders can deboard east and west?  versus a southbound train stopping and only stopping southbound traffic? 

like I said there really isn’t a lot of on street parking along that section of main so that don’t anticipate the issues with over the line parking being a big deal.
There will be a platform in the middle and pedestrians will need to wait at platform for signal like they do now to cross main.

So bit bigger pita for pedestrians vs just being dumped onto the sidewalk....but I think it's a trade-off worth it for better service and auto traffic flow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 08, 2018, 03:40:20 PM
Rent went up $200 when that thing popped up downtown at our place. That would have been a $2400 worth choo choo train on this end. Per year at least.
You got impacted by 99% occupancy....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2018, 03:42:32 PM
Yeah, a platform in the middle of the street that serves both directions is personally the way I would do it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2018, 04:05:17 PM
is the streetcar still free?

it was never free
Free to ride. My property tax of 250 a year are well worth it.  I haven't calculated my sales tax impact....
Is the Troost Max free to ride?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
Yeah, a platform in the middle of the street that serves both directions is personally the way I would do it.

ya i’d punch you in the face is how i’d do it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
Lol I'd LOVE to see you even try. I'd dodge your mong fist and then tiger palm your nose into your tiny brain cavity causing instant death
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2018, 04:16:03 PM
sure after you buy a ladder and a pair of balls
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2018, 04:17:03 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 08, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
is the streetcar still free?

it was never free
Free to ride. My property tax of 250 a year are well worth it.  I haven't calculated my sales tax impact....
Is the Troost Max free to ride?
None of the buses are free except for veterans
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2018, 06:30:35 PM
is the streetcar still free?

it was never free
Free to ride. My property tax of 250 a year are well worth it.  I haven't calculated my sales tax impact....
Is the Troost Max free to ride?
None of the buses are free except for veterans

wow that seems like a pretty racist policy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2018, 10:29:40 AM
Greek Festival this weekend at St. Dionysios in Joco.   :lick:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 09, 2018, 11:19:13 AM
is the streetcar still free?

it was never free
Free to ride. My property tax of 250 a year are well worth it.  I haven't calculated my sales tax impact....
Is the Troost Max free to ride?
None of the buses are free except for veterans

wow that seems like a pretty racist policy
Yep
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 09, 2018, 05:51:22 PM
is the streetcar still free?

it was never free
Free to ride. My property tax of 250 a year are well worth it.  I haven't calculated my sales tax impact....
Is the Troost Max free to ride?
None of the buses are free except for veterans

wow that seems like a pretty racist policy
We like to transport people on race only.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 11, 2018, 09:34:05 AM
http://www.onlyinyourstate.com/missouri/kansas-city/kc-best-hole-in-the-wall-restaurants/

I've still never been to LC's. Should I go this weekend and blog about it?

One of the worst BBQ meals I've had in KC.  Plus the floor was so greasy I almost broke my neck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2018, 10:56:35 AM
Yeah, I never went.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWican on June 11, 2018, 10:58:44 AM
I'm shocked by the LC's hate going on ITT.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2018, 11:06:35 AM
LC's is fantastic, people are just weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 11, 2018, 11:13:16 AM
Joe's KC lovers will never be LCs bbq lovers....too scary.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on June 11, 2018, 11:16:23 AM
Joe's KC lovers will never be LCs bbq lovers....too scary.
Weird. You named my two favorites.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 11, 2018, 11:20:42 AM
Joe's KC lovers will never be LCs bbq lovers....too scary.
Weird. You named my two favorites.
That theory blew up quickly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 11, 2018, 11:28:04 AM
Joe's KC lovers will never be LCs bbq lovers....too scary.

wanted to love it, love burnt ends.  But what i was serverd a Saturday before a Royals game was best described as charcoal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2018, 12:35:43 PM
Joe's KC lovers will never be LCs bbq lovers....too scary.

wanted to love it, love burnt ends.  But what i was serverd a Saturday before a Royals game was best described as charcoal.

the people who love lc's went 1 time 9 years ago and had a good experience.  similar to that guy who once ordered a burnt end sandwich at gates and it wasn't loaded with grizzle and chunks of fat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: EMAWican on June 11, 2018, 12:55:52 PM
Just like every old-school KC BBQ place the majority of the times LC's is on-point and easy to see why it's KC top 10. Occasionally LC's brick oven produces a BBQ product that is indescribably good, the deep fryer fries those fries perfectly, and some of the fugitive ambient smoke mixes and adds a little extra to those beans and makes you want to keep coming back. When that happens it makes me come back.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
Joe's KC lovers will never be LCs bbq lovers....too scary.

What a low grade opinion
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 11, 2018, 02:04:36 PM
Joe's KC lovers will never be LCs bbq lovers....too scary.

What a low grade opinion
I know. Joe's KC fanboys are weirdo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 11, 2018, 07:10:57 PM
I tried LC's once before a royals game a couple years ago. Placed order at 6:15.....6:45 comes around and no food. I go back up to counter and give them my receipt. A guy takes and and says it will be right out.

Its now 7 and I go back up. Said guy has just gotten off his shift, they ask for my receipt. I explain I don't have it and tell them what I ordered. Finally get food at 7:10 and the order was wrong.

Never again.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 11, 2018, 08:25:54 PM
That is such a wacky story
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 11, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
is the streetcar still free?

it was never free
Free to ride. My property tax of 250 a year are well worth it.  I haven't calculated my sales tax impact....
Is the Troost Max free to ride?
None of the buses are free except for veterans

wow that seems like a pretty racist policy

You get free staph infection if you ride it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 11, 2018, 09:06:02 PM
LC's is good for the 435 ride. If your coming on 70 you're get Rosedale on SW BLVD. If you're coming from east of the stadium you're gross.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 11, 2018, 09:19:54 PM
LC's is good for the 435 ride. If your coming on 70 you're get Rosedale on SW BLVD. If you're coming from east of the stadium you're gross.
Rosedale is dog meat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 11, 2018, 09:20:35 PM
Your face is dog meat.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 11, 2018, 09:33:10 PM
LC's is good for the 435 ride. If your coming on 70 you're get Rosedale on SW BLVD. If you're coming from east of the stadium you're gross.

Rosedale omg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 11, 2018, 09:39:05 PM
Lotta amateurish bbq takes itt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 11, 2018, 09:43:45 PM
You foodie dorks ever try that bbq place in downtown mission off johnson drive? RC's?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 11, 2018, 09:52:10 PM
You foodie dorks ever try that bbq place in downtown mission off johnson drive? RC's?

RJs....think I went there once, it was pretty okay.  The real disappointment in mission is Johnnies...omg that place, better off getting the ribq at McDonalds down the street.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 11, 2018, 09:54:49 PM
I forgot about Johnnys . . . on purpose.

RJ's gumbo is legit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 11, 2018, 11:13:31 PM
Joe's KC lovers will never be LCs bbq lovers....too scary.

wanted to love it, love burnt ends.  But what i was serverd a Saturday before a Royals game was best described as charcoal.
Probably still serving actual burnt ends of brisket rather than chopping up the fatty half of the brisket and serving that as “burnt ends” as most places do now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2018, 08:21:01 PM
'clams!!!

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/dave-helling/article213011289.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on June 12, 2018, 08:51:42 PM
I have to say Phil, the one time we went to LC's I wasn't impressed.  I did laugh though when mrs. hamburg said she wanted some cobbler & the counter person refused and said "no you don't, it's nasty."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 12, 2018, 09:26:28 PM
oh good, another regressive sales tax jfc sly just loves rough ridin' the low level income bracket

on that list he fits at 6, just in front of wheeler
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2018, 09:44:43 PM
oh good, another regressive sales tax jfc sly just loves rough ridin' the low level income bracket

on that list he fits at 6, just in front of wheeler
Better solution?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2018, 09:45:18 PM
I have to say Phil, the one time we went to LC's I wasn't impressed.  I did laugh though when mrs. hamburg said she wanted some cobbler & the counter person refused and said "no you don't, it's nasty."
I'm no LCs fanboy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 12, 2018, 10:14:13 PM
oh good, another regressive sales tax jfc sly just loves rough ridin' the low level income bracket

on that list he fits at 6, just in front of wheeler
Better solution?

i’m not a early childhood development funding professional but we just approved $800M in go bonds which can be used on schools.  but slyin’s answer to everything is a new sales tax.  there’s also the general fund.

regardless, I really don’t think I wanna continue to underwrite the cost of other people’s kids education any more than I already am.  maybe to solution is to levy an additional school user fee.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2018, 10:18:05 PM
oh good, another regressive sales tax jfc sly just loves rough ridin' the low level income bracket

on that list he fits at 6, just in front of wheeler
Better solution?

i’m not a early childhood development funding professional but we just approved $800M in go bonds which can be used on schools.  but slyin’s answer to everything is a new sales tax.  there’s also the general fund.

regardless, I really don’t think I wanna continue to underwrite the cost of other people’s kids education any more than I already am.  maybe to solution is to levy an additional school user fee.
I don't disagree with you. I don't think funding is the problem here.

I don't think the GO bonds can be used though.... Based on how they were voted on
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 12, 2018, 10:23:17 PM
yes they can, at least for the 20% he wants for school brick/mortar work

we don’t need to push another sales tax onto the ballot tho (through a petition initiative ironically), this crap is going to bite us in the ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 12, 2018, 10:25:02 PM
at least the way I remember the go bonds being written I thought new school/maintenance fit in the description
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2018, 10:53:03 PM
Is the KCMO USD still unaccredited?  Maybe another $2 billion on desegregation busing (worst social experiment ever) would solve that prob.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2018, 07:10:05 AM
yes they can, at least for the 20% he wants for school brick/mortar work

we don’t need to push another sales tax onto the ballot tho (through a petition initiative ironically), this crap is going to bite us in the ass
Agree we are at the top for sales tax capacity....I could be convinced if things like food and clothing were exempt if it was a great idea...I don't know this early childhood idea at all but doesn't sound that convincing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2018, 08:28:56 AM
lol. Did Phil write that subjective article?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2018, 08:34:29 AM
Democrats ranked high, the one republican ranked low, journalism these days. smgdh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2018, 08:46:51 AM
Democrats ranked high, the one republican ranked low, journalism these days. smgdh.
The pit has permanently damaged your bbs brain.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2018, 08:49:46 AM
Nah. Just being observant. It's pretty easy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2018, 08:59:37 AM
Nah. Just being observant. It's pretty easy.
That article didn't list political party...who knew you were so in tune with the political system of KCMO mayors going back 50 years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2018, 09:00:54 AM
You're the one who works for them, I thought you'd be better versed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2018, 09:38:52 AM
You're the one who works for them, I thought you'd be better versed.
The pit has broken your brain. Get out why you can!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 13, 2018, 09:45:03 AM
KCMO is easily the most dysfunctional and incompetent local govt in the midcon.  It's like they try to do the opposite of what they should be doing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
You're the one who works for them, I thought you'd be better versed.
The pit has broken your brain. Get out why you can!
Tap out noted.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2018, 11:14:27 AM
You're the one who works for them, I thought you'd be better versed.
The pit has broken your brain. Get out why you can!
Tap out noted.  :frown:
You took the time to look up all past mayors to find their political party so you could claim some sort of weird local news media bias by Dave Helling. Hence my comment that the pit has broken your brain. Just here to help.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 13, 2018, 11:26:59 AM
You're the one who works for them, I thought you'd be better versed.
The pit has broken your brain. Get out why you can!

do you actually think it's "get out why you can" or was it a typo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2018, 11:46:12 AM
You're the one who works for them, I thought you'd be better versed.
The pit has broken your brain. Get out why you can!

do you actually think it's "get out why you can" or was it a typo
TypO although get out why you can sounds more ominous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2018, 11:47:14 AM
Lol


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 14, 2018, 06:30:43 PM
Kcpd bagged 3 notches on the ol tool belt today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on June 15, 2018, 08:09:06 AM
Kcpd bagged 3 notches on the ol tool belt today

Heats up, robbin szn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 15, 2018, 06:18:48 PM
QUIT SHOOTING PEOPLE PEOPLE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: schreds21 on June 16, 2018, 09:09:24 AM
 :cry: sad day for KCK law enforcement yesterday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 16, 2018, 11:35:19 AM
QUIT SHOOTING PEOPLE PEOPLE
You too prairie village.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 16, 2018, 01:12:56 PM
shocking that the airport is already delayed, oh well i’m sure it’ll be smooth sailing from here on out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 17, 2018, 11:26:14 AM
:cry: sad day for KCK law enforcement yesterday.

Patrick Rohrer was an EMAW  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: schreds21 on June 17, 2018, 03:05:55 PM
:cry: sad day for KCK law enforcement yesterday.

Patrick Rohrer was an EMAW  :frown:
R.I.P. :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 19, 2018, 07:47:06 AM
My car got broken into on Saturday night.  Second time in 4 months! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 19, 2018, 08:09:35 AM
you must have a very desirable car, stealing stuff-wise
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 19, 2018, 08:11:04 AM
you must have a very desirable car, stealing stuff-wise
If your car doesn't have an attempted break-in at least once every six months, I don't want to be associated with you. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2018, 08:22:34 AM
you must have a very desirable car, stealing stuff-wise
If your car doesn't have an attempted break-in at least once every six months, I don't want to be associated with you.
I've lived downtown 15 years and plaza 5 before that....no break-ins. I'll see myself out. It was great knowing you dlew.

That sucks though. Annoying af
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2018, 08:35:31 AM
Carma
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2018, 09:00:06 AM
you must have a very desirable car, stealing stuff-wise
If your car doesn't have an attempted break-in at least once every six months, I don't want to be associated with you.
I've lived downtown 15 years and plaza 5 before that....no break-ins. I'll see myself out. It was great knowing you dlew.

That sucks though. Annoying af
You're in a parking garage, bro.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2018, 09:15:39 AM
you must have a very desirable car, stealing stuff-wise
If your car doesn't have an attempted break-in at least once every six months, I don't want to be associated with you.
I've lived downtown 15 years and plaza 5 before that....no break-ins. I'll see myself out. It was great knowing you dlew.

That sucks though. Annoying af
You're in a parking garage, bro.
That doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 19, 2018, 09:17:16 AM
where can i find streetcar expansion vote results
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2018, 09:17:58 AM
You're in a parking garage with other tenants that can afford said places downtown vs open streets out in the open where people can just walk by and eff with.  :dunno: Is it really that hard to comprehend?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2018, 09:19:06 AM
where can i find streetcar expansion vote results
Tomorrow. There is a "watch party" at whole foods (weird) but think that's more of a party....not sure if they will be public prior to that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2018, 09:22:01 AM
where can i find streetcar expansion vote results

do you really need official word on it?  between the voter suppression and the gerrymandering, this one is in the bag for you Spend Baby, Spend folks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 19, 2018, 09:23:40 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2018, 09:28:41 AM
You're in a parking garage with other tenants that can afford said places downtown vs open streets out in the open where people can just walk by and eff with.  :dunno: Is it really that hard to comprehend?
I know what garage you are speaking of and it's completely wide open to any weirdo that wants to go in and eff with cars....without cameras or much monitoring....it's not what I'd consider a safe space for cars compared to the street.....on the street you have foot traffic that is a deterrent.

I've parked in both over those years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2018, 09:31:58 AM
The odds of your crap getting mumped with in said random area like Waldo with your street out in the open vs a downtown garage is night and day. My crap was never mumped with downtown for the reasons you mentioned. There's so much foot traffic, that it's easier to be seen. People don't want to eff with that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2018, 09:39:13 AM
where can i find streetcar expansion vote results

do you really need official word on it?  between the voter suppression and the gerrymandering, this one is in the bag for you Spend Baby, Spend folks
Higher turnout than in person voting for similar ballot issue....

Speaking of voters, let's mail everybody a ballot and let them mail it back without a notary....that would be pretty awesome.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2018, 09:56:21 AM
I think dlew lives in Johnson County guys (but maybe not?)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2018, 10:01:26 AM
Oh, I think he does too. I was just making a case for living downtown vs the suburbs and how the likelihood of getting your crap mumped with is greater in the suburbs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2018, 10:04:54 AM
Oh, I think he does too. I was just making a case for living downtown vs the suburbs and how the likelihood of getting your crap mumped with is greater in the suburbs.
:love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 19, 2018, 10:44:53 AM
I think dlew lives in Johnson County guys (but maybe not?)

i encountered dlew in westport on friday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2018, 10:51:07 AM
More like crimeport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2018, 11:03:30 AM
More like crimedeathport

fyp
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2018, 11:05:10 AM
Did you guys know there's a sweet little joint there call Beer Kitchen that's pretty good?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2018, 11:12:00 AM
where can i find streetcar expansion vote results

do you really need official word on it?  between the voter suppression and the gerrymandering, this one is in the bag for you Spend Baby, Spend folks
Higher turnout than in person voting for similar ballot issue....

Speaking of voters, let's mail everybody a ballot and let them mail it back without a notary....that would be pretty awesome.



whatever it takes to ignore the will of the people and push your agenda forward.  ain't that right, Sly Kobach?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2018, 11:12:54 AM
Did you guys know there's a sweet little joint there call Beer Kitchen that's pretty good?

it will be closed within 6 months and replaced with a pawn shop
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 19, 2018, 11:15:39 AM
I think dlew lives in Johnson County guys (but maybe not?)

i encountered dlew in westport on friday
That was two fridays ago.  What a weekend.

And an important note: the first time my car was broken into was in a parking lot.  After that, I opted to pay to be in the complex's covered parking garage. 

The garage is only accessible by key or by the garage gate (closes automatically and impassible by humans when closed).  No signs of forced entry.  Someone either didn't shut one of the doors all the way so they latched (and locked) or someone got in while the garage gate was open (or another garage tenant broke into my car).  There wasn't much to take out of my car, but whoever it was did make off with my late grandfather's bowling ball -- which really sucks because it meant quite a bit to me, but is probably worth about $20 on the open market
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2018, 11:24:50 AM
where can i find streetcar expansion vote results

do you really need official word on it?  between the voter suppression and the gerrymandering, this one is in the bag for you Spend Baby, Spend folks
Higher turnout than in person voting for similar ballot issue....

Speaking of voters, let's mail everybody a ballot and let them mail it back without a notary....that would be pretty awesome.



whatever it takes to ignore the will of the people and push your agenda forward.  ain't that right, Sly Kobach?
Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2018, 12:07:07 PM
where can i find streetcar expansion vote results
Tomorrow. There is a "watch party" at whole foods (weird) but think that's more of a party....not sure if they will be public prior to that.

ain’t no party like a voter suppression party because a voter suppression party don’t stop!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2018, 12:14:47 PM
where can i find streetcar expansion vote results
Tomorrow. There is a "watch party" at whole foods (weird) but think that's more of a party....not sure if they will be public prior to that.

ain’t no party like a voter suppression party because a voter suppression party don’t stop!
...until whole foods meat department closes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2018, 12:18:47 PM
slyin kobach will find a way to feed his gullet, he knows how to work around rules
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 19, 2018, 01:05:08 PM
And an important note: the first time my car was broken into was in a parking lot.  After that, I opted to pay to be in the complex's covered parking garage. 

complex maintenance guy got your ass, t's and p's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 19, 2018, 01:12:28 PM
And an important note: the first time my car was broken into was in a parking lot.  After that, I opted to pay to be in the complex's covered parking garage. 

complex maintenance guy got your ass, t's and p's
would be elite.  there are cameras in the garage.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2018, 01:39:09 PM
that sucks about the bowling ball.  who steals a bowling ball?  probably a squawk who needed money for meth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
Deathport bowling ball murderer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2018, 01:46:41 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/802516034492623677589c2d36770d93/tumblr_nafgch7Bjq1tjydheo3_500.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2018, 01:55:29 PM
new deathport marketing slogan:  "come to deathport to party and then die.  if the drinks don't kill you, the thUgs will and if they don't, they will sTeal your bowling ball.  #deathport"

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2018, 01:57:28 PM
@pissclams, bud, did Ms. Pissclams tell you she saw me last night at a mutual friends party? :ksu:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 19, 2018, 02:02:24 PM
yeah sucks about the bowling ball.  also sucks about the sous vide that was swiped. 

funny thing, they also took my garage door opener (that opens one of the aforementioned three points of entry to the garage).  i told my apartment complex that they took the opener meaning that a thief now has carte blanche access to an otherwise secured garage and they were like "OK there's not really any way to reprogram those. :dunno: " 

oh! okay then!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2018, 02:10:57 PM
Just take someone else's opener, obviously there are no consequences
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 19, 2018, 02:44:13 PM
Someone broke into my car a year-ish ago in the parking garage for my old apartment. Smashed a window and stole the radar detector from inside the center console and not much else.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 19, 2018, 02:54:52 PM
Just take someone else's opener, obviously there are no consequences
the complex gave me a new one.  problem solved!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2018, 02:59:40 PM
Gotta love a happy ending
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 19, 2018, 06:36:14 PM
:fatty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 20, 2018, 06:55:13 AM
https://twitter.com/staubio/status/1009098398383984640?s=19

https://twitter.com/kard/status/1009141233040715778?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:21:31 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2018, 08:27:40 AM
I wonder what the difference in daily use is. Joco gateway has to be over 6x more
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:30:04 AM
Yeah and that lil choo choo train isn't getting that insane amount of ppl to work everyday. What a dumbass argument.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2018, 08:33:30 AM
So it looks like the gateway handles 200k-250k drivers a day, the streetcar gets like 2 million a year right?

I am definitely pro-streetcar but what a terrible argument lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:36:53 AM
lol. ya.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 08:37:52 AM
The comparison is a bit silly but it highlights that we spend and spend on unnecessary highway projects and nobody bats and eye but the streetcar had 2 votes and endless wailing about tax money.

Joco gateway was a pretty unnecessary project. An hour or 2 a day will a little bit busy, big deal.  It will increase sprawl which increases infrastructure costs even more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2018, 08:38:33 AM
It was definitely not unnecessary
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:41:04 AM
lol. Unnecessary? Says the guy who doesn't commute to work daily. And i'm the one who's bitched about traffic, construction, etc. It's definitely not unnecessary when it's highly functioning.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 08:41:44 AM
It was definitely not unnecessary
Lol okay. Cars were getting to and from the highways they wanted just fine.  This city seems to think the only acceptable highway situation is one in which they can set their cruise no matter the time of day.

It's wasteful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
like, one of those things covers 1.8 miles and is a shiny toy to look at and the other one, you know, gets people to wherever they eff they want to go in the metro.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2018, 08:44:00 AM
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about slyin phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 08:44:31 AM
like, one of those things covers 1.8 miles and is a shiny toy to look at and the other one, you know, gets people to wherever they eff they want to go in the metro.
It was already doing that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:46:29 AM
Now it will do it more efficiently. I think non-commuters should sit this one out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 08:47:15 AM
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about slyin phil
Sounds about right.

I don't care honestly....I was trying to explain what the tweet was going for (in a silly way).

Go rebuild your highways all you want. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:49:25 AM
You spelled expanding wrong, but ya.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 08:49:42 AM
Now it will do it more efficiently. I think non-commuters should sit this one out.
That's fine....glad it works better for a couple hours a day. Was it worth ~$300M+ that nobody got to vote on? 

Comparing it to the streetcar is silly....I agree. They serve two different purposes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:53:42 AM
That was my only point. Mocat dropped it in here like "case closed" and walked away and I'm just like lol at that comparison. There's plenty of ways our tax dollars are being wasted out there, but i'm fine with making transportation easier around the metro. I loved working and living downtown, but most of the time i've worked off I-35 and/or the 435 loop.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2018, 08:57:51 AM
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about slyin phil
Sounds about right.

I don't care honestly....I was trying to explain what the tweet was going for (in a silly way).

Go rebuild your highways all you want.

 :Carl: :cheers: :Carl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 08:59:07 AM
That was my only point. Mocat dropped it in here like "case closed" and walked away and I'm just like lol at that comparison. There's plenty of ways our tax dollars are being wasted out there, but i'm fine with making transportation easier around the metro. I loved working and living downtown, but most of the time i've off I-35 and/or the 435 loop.
That was the point of the tweet (I believe).... wacky cat, who represents a pretty average KC metro resident, had no problem with that project because it saves him/her a couple minutes during the heaviest rush hour....but the starter streetcar line had vote after vote and intense media and public debating over....even outside of the impacted taxpayer or user.

Building highways is very expensive. We should be cautious on just expanding lanes because one to two hours a day you have to go 30mph for 2 miles.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2018, 08:59:25 AM
some things just speak for themselves and this idiot’s tweets do just that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2018, 09:02:56 AM
That was my only point. Mocat dropped it in here like "case closed" and walked away and I'm just like lol at that comparison. There's plenty of ways our tax dollars are being wasted out there, but i'm fine with making transportation easier around the metro. I loved working and living downtown, but most of the time i've off I-35 and/or the 435 loop.
That was the point of the tweet (I believe).... wacky cat, who represents a pretty average KC metro resident, had no problem with that project because it saves him/her a couple minutes during the heaviest rush hour....but the starter streetcar line had vote after vote and intense media and public debating over....even outside of the impacted taxpayer or user.

Building highways is very expensive. We should be cautious on just expanding lanes because one to two hours a day you have to go 30mph for 2 miles.

It's not just congestion, it's age and safety. K-10 is (probably) going to be the next major project, it's well over capacity and becoming quite a safety problem.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 09:07:31 AM
That was my only point. Mocat dropped it in here like "case closed" and walked away and I'm just like lol at that comparison. There's plenty of ways our tax dollars are being wasted out there, but i'm fine with making transportation easier around the metro. I loved working and living downtown, but most of the time i've off I-35 and/or the 435 loop.
That was the point of the tweet (I believe).... wacky cat, who represents a pretty average KC metro resident, had no problem with that project because it saves him/her a couple minutes during the heaviest rush hour....but the starter streetcar line had vote after vote and intense media and public debating over....even outside of the impacted taxpayer or user.

Building highways is very expensive. We should be cautious on just expanding lanes because one to two hours a day you have to go 30mph for 2 miles.

It's not just congestion, it's age and safety. K-10 is (probably) going to be the next major project, it's well over capacity and becoming quite a safety problem.
We lived off K-10 in Eudora growing up and my dad had to tend to two major crashes from that shitty highway. One of the kids died while he was helping him get out of their car. Told my dad he was at his parents and just trying to get back to school. Thee worst!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 20, 2018, 09:09:27 AM
It's pretty crazy that we've evolved into a society where we think it is reasonable to live a long distance from where we work with no convenient transit and then base everything around that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 20, 2018, 09:12:33 AM
i just thought it was in an interesting look into federal funding for trans projects; obviously the two projects are incomparable in terms of scale. but if you had asked me how much federal $ went into the 435/k10 thing i would have guessed much lower than $600M
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 20, 2018, 09:13:38 AM
So it looks like the gateway handles 200k-250k drivers a day, the streetcar gets like 2 million a year right?

I am definitely pro-streetcar but what a terrible argument lol

what's the argument?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 09:14:10 AM
It's pretty crazy that we've evolved into a society where we think it is reasonable to live a long distance from where we work with no convenient transit and then base everything around that.
Yup.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 09:16:18 AM
A lot of things can change in a persons life from the time they've decided where to live and work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2018, 09:16:52 AM
The metro freeway system is pretty convenient imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 09:22:02 AM
A lot of things can change in a persons life from the time they've decided where to live and work.
Obviously. The problem in KC is we've scattered all the residents and jobs so transit is tough to implement....and that pushes us to spend 300M to rebuild an interchange.

It's expensive.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 09:23:19 AM
The metro freeway system is pretty convenient imo
Definitely. If you can afford a car.

It's also very expensive to maintain.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2018, 09:45:01 AM
Are you trying to say the streetcar helps people who can't afford a car get to work? It's a 40 minute walk that was already served by busses. Come on phil.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2018, 09:49:45 AM
i think they should rip out all major highways in the metro and replace them with streetcar lines.  i wonder how much that would cost to build and maintain.  probably cheap.  doesn't matter, it'd be better.
also, slyin james should make a new law that mandates that people live within walking distance to their job.  each person's unique walking distance would be determined by their overall fitness.
slyin hams would be forced to live in city hall because his walking distance is 10 feet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 09:54:37 AM
Are you trying to say the streetcar helps people who can't afford a car get to work? It's a 40 minute walk that was already served by busses. Come on phil.
Was not in any way trying to say that. Just talking the freeway system on it's own that you described as convenient.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 09:55:08 AM
This was SimCity winning strategy btw.
i think they should rip out all major highways in the metro and replace them with streetcar lines.  i wonder how much that would cost to build and maintain.  probably cheap.  doesn't matter, it'd be better.
also, slyin james should make a new law that mandates that people live within walking distance to their job.  each person's unique walking distance would be determined by their overall fitness.
slyin hams would be forced to live in city hall because his walking distance is 10 feet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 20, 2018, 10:06:26 AM
It's pretty crazy that we've evolved into a society where we think it is reasonable to live a long distance from where we work with no convenient transit and then base everything around that.
Yup.
Our society thinks its reasonable to live long distances from where we work because people generally like to live in reasonably priced spaces that aren't the size of shoeboxes - especially if they have families. 

Happy to help solve that humdinger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 20, 2018, 12:25:40 PM
SPOILER!!! STREETCAR RESULTS!!!






































https://twitter.com/bturque/status/1009483944709050373
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 12:26:51 PM
SPOILER!!! STREETCAR RESULTS!!!
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https://twitter.com/bturque/status/1009483944709050373
Guess I'll cancel my whole foods watch party plans.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 20, 2018, 12:27:12 PM
I warned you!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 12:32:47 PM
Looks like the gerrymandering was done well....75% want to tax themselves for better transit!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 20, 2018, 12:38:47 PM
The KC streetcar is the monorail the carpetbagger sold Springfield in the Simpsons
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 12:45:24 PM
Hot take alert.
The KC streetcar is the monorail the carpetbagger sold Springfield in the Simpsons
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 20, 2018, 01:05:27 PM
The carpetbagger got 100% of the vote, iirc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2018, 02:09:44 PM
Looks like the gerrymandering was done well....75% want to tax themselves for better transit!
Hot take alert: City Hall knowingly misleads city residents by claiming that the only people who have to pay the increased tax in the newly adopted TDD are those whole live or operate a business in the district!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
It's pretty crazy that we've evolved into a society where we think it is reasonable to live a long distance from where we work with no convenient transit and then base everything around that.
Yup.
Our society thinks its reasonable to live long distances from where we work because people generally like to live in reasonably priced spaces that aren't the size of shoeboxes - especially if they have families. 

Happy to help solve that humdinger.
Also because the government has been subsidising it for years, mostly to the benefit of white people. Kind of like the streetcar!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
subsidized through regressive fuel taxes and you have no way to substantiate who benefits the most from the interstate highway system unless you're just of the saying that money rolls up hill, which it does, unlike crap.  but it's really a lot more than wacky driving down 435 to his office and boom, benefit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 20, 2018, 03:11:20 PM
saying that funding for highways has a racial connotation seems like an outlandish position, but i'm eager to hear the rationale.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 03:15:58 PM
Looks like the gerrymandering was done well....75% want to tax themselves for better transit!
Hot take alert: City Hall knowingly misleads city residents by claiming that the only people who have to pay the increased tax in the newly adopted TDD are those whole live or operate a business in the district!
Show me the dumb dumb saying this. Don't want to pay it? Easy enough to avoid cheesecake factory.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2018, 03:17:43 PM
saying that funding for highways has a racial connotation seems like an outlandish position, but i'm eager to hear the rationale.

you should read "Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein. https://www.amazon.com/Color-Law-Forgotten-Government-Segregated/dp/1631492853

There's a chapter on how the interstate highway system had a disproportionate negative effect on black neighborhoods. That's without considering the fact that the government subsidized home loans in suburbs that either blatantly banned non-whites or became ineligible for loans if a black family moved in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2018, 03:26:01 PM
Looks like the gerrymandering was done well....75% want to tax themselves for better transit!
Hot take alert: City Hall knowingly misleads city residents by claiming that the only people who have to pay the increased tax in the newly adopted TDD are those whole live or operate a business in the district!
Show me the dumb dumb saying this. Don't want to pay it? Easy enough to avoid cheesecake factory.

look at you!  playing with words!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2018, 03:27:29 PM
saying that funding for highways has a racial connotation seems like an outlandish position, but i'm eager to hear the rationale.

you should read "Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein. https://www.amazon.com/Color-Law-Forgotten-Government-Segregated/dp/1631492853

There's a chapter on how the interstate highway system had a disproportionate negative effect on black neighborhoods. That's without considering the fact that the government subsidized home loans in suburbs that either blatantly banned non-whites or became ineligible for loans if a black family moved in.

this article touches on it: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/03/role-of-highways-in-american-poverty/474282/

but doesn't get into the fact that no real compensation was made for black families displaced.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 03:30:05 PM
Looks like the gerrymandering was done well....75% want to tax themselves for better transit!
Hot take alert: City Hall knowingly misleads city residents by claiming that the only people who have to pay the increased tax in the newly adopted TDD are those whole live or operate a business in the district!
Show me the dumb dumb saying this. Don't want to pay it? Easy enough to avoid cheesecake factory.

look at you!  playing with words!
I once got charged a sales tax at Town center plaza to pay for their parking lot....I didn't get to vote on it or nuttin!

Monsters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 20, 2018, 03:32:23 PM
saying that funding for highways has a racial connotation seems like an outlandish position, but i'm eager to hear the rationale.

you should read "Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein. https://www.amazon.com/Color-Law-Forgotten-Government-Segregated/dp/1631492853

There's a chapter on how the interstate highway system had a disproportionate negative effect on black neighborhoods. That's without considering the fact that the government subsidized home loans in suburbs that either blatantly banned non-whites or became ineligible for loans if a black family moved in.
i skipped the book but just read a vox article on the subject (https://www.vox.com/2015/5/14/8605917/highways-interstate-cities-history (https://www.vox.com/2015/5/14/8605917/highways-interstate-cities-history)).  at the risk of pitting up this thread, i found the article interesting and learned some new history.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2018, 03:37:43 PM
Looks like the gerrymandering was done well....75% want to tax themselves for better transit!
Hot take alert: City Hall knowingly misleads city residents by claiming that the only people who have to pay the increased tax in the newly adopted TDD are those whole live or operate a business in the district!
Show me the dumb dumb saying this. Don't want to pay it? Easy enough to avoid cheesecake factory.

look at you!  playing with words!
I once got charged a sales tax at Town center plaza to pay for their parking lot....I didn't get to vote on it or nuttin!

Monsters.

no you didn't.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2018, 04:23:35 PM
saying that funding for highways has a racial connotation seems like an outlandish position, but i'm eager to hear the rationale.

you should read "Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein. https://www.amazon.com/Color-Law-Forgotten-Government-Segregated/dp/1631492853

There's a chapter on how the interstate highway system had a disproportionate negative effect on black neighborhoods. That's without considering the fact that the government subsidized home loans in suburbs that either blatantly banned non-whites or became ineligible for loans if a black family moved in.
i skipped the book but just read a vox article on the subject (https://www.vox.com/2015/5/14/8605917/highways-interstate-cities-history (https://www.vox.com/2015/5/14/8605917/highways-interstate-cities-history)).  at the risk of pitting up this thread, i found the article interesting and learned some new history.

you should still real the book, it's great and pretty quick to get through. And since you can't really discuss Kansas City without eventually touching on systematic racism, I think it's appropriate to this thread!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2018, 04:38:21 PM
also, this is an interesting thing to ponder regarding highway improvements:

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/06/21/the-science-is-clear-more-highways-equals-more-traffic-why-are-dots-still-ignoring-it/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 05:11:41 PM
also, this is an interesting thing to ponder regarding highway improvements:

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/06/21/the-science-is-clear-more-highways-equals-more-traffic-why-are-dots-still-ignoring-it/
I was going to bring up induced demand earlier but figured it would not be taken seriously
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 20, 2018, 05:21:02 PM
Automated cars should reduce congestion significantly.   Also surface lot space will be alleviated.  I agree with 8man that our commuting culture is dumb, but I think it’s a cat that we can’t put back in the bag with as much sprawl as we have already created. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2018, 07:45:21 PM
highway improvement doesn’t equal more highway
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
highway improvement doesn’t equal more highway

yeah it was a bad headline but if you read the article it discusses "increased efficiency" rather than "more highway", which seems relevant for the 35/435/K-10 interchange
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 08:42:28 PM
Can we all just admit that the two don’t equate, like at all, or ever?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 20, 2018, 10:00:28 PM
Automated cars should reduce congestion significantly.   Also surface lot space will be alleviated.  I agree with 8man that our commuting culture is dumb, but I think it’s a cat that we can’t put back in the bag with as much sprawl as we have already created.
Totally agree we can't put it back, despite how recent a phenomenon it is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 20, 2018, 10:11:10 PM
Can we all just admit that the two don’t equate, like at all, or ever?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstatefan11 on June 20, 2018, 11:12:59 PM
saying that funding for highways has a racial connotation seems like an outlandish position, but i'm eager to hear the rationale.

you should read "Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein. https://www.amazon.com/Color-Law-Forgotten-Government-Segregated/dp/1631492853

There's a chapter on how the interstate highway system had a disproportionate negative effect on black neighborhoods. That's without considering the fact that the government subsidized home loans in suburbs that either blatantly banned non-whites or became ineligible for loans if a black family moved in.
i skipped the book but just read a vox article on the subject (https://www.vox.com/2015/5/14/8605917/highways-interstate-cities-history (https://www.vox.com/2015/5/14/8605917/highways-interstate-cities-history)).  at the risk of pitting up this thread, i found the article interesting and learned some new history.

you should still real the book, it's great and pretty quick to get through. And since you can't really discuss Kansas City without eventually touching on systematic racism, I think it's appropriate to this thread!

A great watch on this from some maw heroes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98-oHmcYwFg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98-oHmcYwFg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2018, 11:24:53 PM
I didn’t watch the video, but I hope you all know the great divide in the city between state lines and like the plaza to Gregory. And like KCMO as a whole.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 21, 2018, 06:30:19 AM
I didn’t watch the video, but I hope you all know the great divide in the city between state lines and like the plaza to Gregory. And like KCMO as a whole.


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I'm gonna need an interpreter for this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 21, 2018, 07:40:44 AM
I'll take a shot

"there is a divide between the people who live in joco and those in kcmo. Also the people who live between the plaza and Gregory (not sure if the plaza is included) are with joco in this divide scenario"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 21, 2018, 08:27:15 AM
i've seen better explanations than the one in that video, but it was not bad. some cool drone footage!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 02:28:49 PM
shocking that the airport is already delayed, oh well i’m sure it’ll be smooth sailing from here on out

hey guys obviously i was just kidding about the "smooth sailing from here on out" comment.
breaking news- the airport is now projected to complete in november of 2022 vs october of 2021 and the cost estimate has already risen +$300M

what a crap show these people are running...  i said this was going to happen to this project in this thread probably 250+ pages ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 21, 2018, 02:30:30 PM
BITB is clowning on ole 'sly right now on 810 and said he could come on and talk if he wants.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 21, 2018, 02:33:34 PM
It's so rough ridin' embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/catreidtv/status/1009878282123300864
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 03:03:08 PM
i sure hope that those airport user forecasts increase substantially (LOL) to offset these higher costs! (LOL).  of course, since it's delayed, that's just another year of zero revenue to bring in to help offset the construction costs. 

#shitshow
#norisktoresidents
#selffunded
#lies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 03:05:40 PM
Happy for you clams.

Maybe soon you'll figure out how financing works.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 03:07:13 PM
like clockwork
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 21, 2018, 03:11:03 PM
adding four gates costs $300m and delays the project by a year?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 21, 2018, 03:12:18 PM
crap, they could build half a mile of streetcar track with that amount of money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 03:13:55 PM
It's so rough ridin' embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/catreidtv/status/1009878282123300864
What is wacky? Getting a pimp new airport that's actually big enough and not a cheap POS? Yeah.. How embarrassing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 21, 2018, 03:15:31 PM
That they have no idea wtf they're doing is the embarrassing part and then going way over budget and pushing back the date. Just that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
That they have no idea wtf they're doing is the embarrassing part and then going way over budget and pushing back the date. Just that.
There was no budget yet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 03:20:55 PM
like clockwork
Oh I'm not a big defender of the delay....the city council and edgemoor own that....I lol at Heather hall trying to not take any blame.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 03:24:18 PM
adding four gates costs $300m and delays the project by a year?
What they are saying is.....Adding gates....planning for a bigger expansion footprint...adding square footage....labor union problem.....delays by city council with their ridiculous CBA demands...and FAA delays (which I lay onto Edgmoor personally, I think their inexperience with airports caused that )

Cost is probably also due to rising interest rates and rising costs of raw materials thanks to tarriffs.

Id rather see them get the price right vs. nickle and dime this airport....but it's pretty frustrating and annoying.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 21, 2018, 03:31:14 PM
The 3.3 mile streetcar expansion will cost 200M dlew!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 21, 2018, 06:24:19 PM
Thanks trump's tariffs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
no one did the proper due diligence in the first place when costing this out.  we’re not seeing the price go up either and yes we will get nickel and dimed

what was the reason given when selecting edgemoor? cost management?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 08:25:06 PM
no one did the proper due diligence in the first place when costing this out.  we’re not seeing the price go up either and yes we will get nickel and dimed

what was the reason given when selecting edgemoor? cost management?
Yeah they promised a quicker start. Bastards.

Glad you can chalk this up as a win clams...you deserve it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 21, 2018, 08:31:41 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 09:00:40 PM
the real winner is you and slyin james.  as evidenced by your last post where you lay blame at absolutely everyone within 500 miles of city hall.  except slyin james.  dude is going to retire from the majors with a 1.0 batting average.  that has got to feel good for slyin hams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
so will we see the already inflated user forecasts cranked up higher to balance the business case and offset additional third of a billion?  time will tell, folks, but all options are on the table and don’t expect the truth, kcmo residents don’t deserve it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 09:29:32 PM
so will we see the already inflated user forecasts cranked up higher to balance the business case and offset additional third of a billion?  time will tell, folks, but all options are on the table and don’t expect the truth, kcmo residents don’t deserve it.
This goes beyond KCMO who deserves the truth.

You'll see higher parking fees and concessions and a buck more on your ticket.

Not sure how much more you want me to blame sly.....he's on the council that pushed for this CBA that was the cause of 2 month delay......

But we should all get really worked up that a bigger airport costs more than the $980MM estimated in 2015 dollars....obviously nothing has changed since then. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 09:34:02 PM
oh so despite it costing 1/3 billion dollars more, the economic impact is the same.  makes sense to me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 09:37:40 PM
oh so despite it costing 1/3 billion dollars more, the economic impact is the same.  makes sense to me
I'd assume. I'd be suspect if they said the economic impact would increase....it's insanity.

Costs go up....should have started quicker....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2018, 09:47:24 PM
well, all that i have to say to that is

Maybe soon you'll figure out how financing works.

the whole reason we were dealing with inflated user forecasts in the beginning is because they wanted to show a minimal impact to airport users (more users = less per user impact) and i don't want to debate whether or not the forecasts were inflated but you should remember a lot of people, including jolie (and myself in this thread), questioning those numbers.

the math is really simple.   build costs go up, the per user cost goes up.  build time increases, the per user cost goes up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 21, 2018, 09:51:49 PM


well, all that i have to say to that is

Maybe soon you'll figure out how financing works.

the whole reason we were dealing with inflated user forecasts in the beginning is because they wanted to show a minimal impact to airport users (more users = less per user impact) and i don't want to debate whether or not the forecasts were inflated but you should remember a lot of people, including jolie (and myself in this thread), questioning those numbers.

the math is really simple.   build costs go up, the per user cost goes up.  build time increases, the per user cost goes up.

You actually poo poo'd the user estimates that the airport has been beating for years....but I don't disagree with the math....nobody has.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 22, 2018, 08:40:19 AM
I was told yesterday that they agreed to make it the most ADA compliant airport in the world.  Not sure if that was in the news or not.  If it was not, my source is A+.  I also have no idea how they measure that.     
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2018, 08:47:03 AM
I was told yesterday that they agreed to make it the most ADA compliant airport in the world.  Not sure if that was in the news or not.  If it was not, my source is A+.  I also have no idea how they measure that.     
Maybe there is like an ADA award show.?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2018, 09:59:31 AM
I was told yesterday that they agreed to make it the most ADA compliant airport in the world.  Not sure if that was in the news or not.  If it was not, my source is A+.  I also have no idea how they measure that.     

i can see it now. 
the brain trust downtown sitting in a dimly lit and smokey conference room in the basement of city hall, it's late- maybe 2 am when all of the sudden it hit them.  "ada", "let's make this bitch the most ada complaint airport in the world, damn the cost and schedule"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2018, 10:21:59 AM
I was told yesterday that they agreed to make it the most ADA compliant airport in the world.  Not sure if that was in the news or not.  If it was not, my source is A+.  I also have no idea how they measure that.     

i can see it now. 
the brain trust downtown sitting in a dimly lit and smokey conference room in the basement of city hall, it's late- maybe 2 am when all of the sudden it hit them.  "ada", "let's make this bitch the most ada complaint airport in the world, damn the cost and schedule"

"...nobody will be able to be mad at us, because then they will be insulting the disabled!"

Heather Hall *twisting hair* "but will there be police men there?"

Slyin' *rolls eyes* - "yes heather, your husband can work there off duty"

HH *smacks gum* - "yeahhhh!"

Quinton Lucas - "I'd like to promulgate the ideology that not withstanding all peoples, the ADA compliant airport should exceed MBE/WBE percentages, as claimed in Steve Dave vs. State of Nebraska"

Slyin' - "Quinton, we get it, you're a lawyer"

QL - "AND teach and KU"

Canady - says something crazy and non-sequitur

Jolie - "but we can ride bikes there right?  Why can't we build this downtown?"

Scott Taylor - "vote for me for mayor!"

....i'll finish this up later.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 22, 2018, 10:37:55 AM
I still can't believe highways are racist.  That's hard to comprehend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2018, 11:06:13 AM
I was told yesterday that they agreed to make it the most ADA compliant airport in the world.  Not sure if that was in the news or not.  If it was not, my source is A+.  I also have no idea how they measure that.     

i can see it now. 
the brain trust downtown sitting in a dimly lit and smokey conference room in the basement of city hall, it's late- maybe 2 am when all of the sudden it hit them.  "ada", "let's make this bitch the most ada complaint airport in the world, damn the cost and schedule"

"...nobody will be able to be mad at us, because then they will be insulting the disabled!"

Heather Hall *twisting hair* "but will there be police men there?"

Slyin' *rolls eyes* - "yes heather, your husband can work there off duty"

HH *smacks gum* - "yeahhhh!"

Quinton Lucas - "I'd like to promulgate the ideology that not withstanding all peoples, the ADA compliant airport should exceed MBE/WBE percentages, as claimed in Steve Dave vs. State of Nebraska"

Slyin' - "Quinton, we get it, you're a lawyer"

QL - "AND teach and KU"

Canady - says something crazy and non-sequitur

Jolie - "but we can ride bikes there right?  Why can't we build this downtown?"

Scott Taylor - "vote for me for mayor!"

....i'll finish this up later.

this is a very good start

i just can't imagine the impetus to go this route given all of the other challenges that they have in front of them but regardless, MLK can kick rocks, the ada airport should be renamed after Christoper Reeve or something
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 22, 2018, 11:10:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEaTFKG4IHs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 22, 2018, 11:20:59 AM
Is there such thing as "most compliant?"  Isn't something either compliant or not?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
Is there such thing as "most compliant?"  Isn't something either compliant or not?
Every airport built since ADA passed = most compliant
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2018, 12:00:33 PM
Is there such thing as "most compliant?"  Isn't something either compliant or not?

seems very kansas citeo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2018, 02:08:38 PM
Does kc have a cripple problem?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on June 22, 2018, 02:33:04 PM
Suck it MCI poors

(http://i68.tinypic.com/343gldx.jpg)

Hey guys!  How’s that new airport coming along?

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/05/23/final-beams-put-in-place-at-new-salt-lake-city-international-airport-terminal/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 22, 2018, 03:37:45 PM
Suck it MCI poors

(http://i68.tinypic.com/343gldx.jpg)

Hey guys!  How’s that new airport coming along?

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/05/23/final-beams-put-in-place-at-new-salt-lake-city-international-airport-terminal/
Doesn't even look like you can wheel a wheelchair into that crap terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 25, 2018, 10:07:17 AM
Jolie out of the mayor's race but should be a lock for reelection in the 4th district.

Kander kind of seems like a lock now....not sure how I feel about that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 25, 2018, 10:08:40 AM
Meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 25, 2018, 11:35:56 AM
Jolie out of the mayor's race but should be a lock for reelection in the 4th district.

Kander kind of seems like a lock now....not sure how I feel about that.

I feel like he's too good for the job.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 25, 2018, 12:14:11 PM
Jolie out of the mayor's race but should be a lock for reelection in the 4th district.

Kander kind of seems like a lock now....not sure how I feel about that.

I feel like he's too good for the job.

He's also a potential democrat star wasting away doing nothing in red Missouri except for tweeting hot takes and going on tv. It's probably a national DNC decision to get him some political resume points. I wouldn't expect him to complete 2 terms.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 25, 2018, 12:26:36 PM
Jolie out of the mayor's race but should be a lock for reelection in the 4th district.

Kander kind of seems like a lock now....not sure how I feel about that.

I feel like he's too good for the job.

He's also a potential democrat star wasting away doing nothing in red Missouri except for tweeting hot takes and going on tv. It's probably a national DNC decision to get him some political resume points. I wouldn't expect him to complete 2 terms.
I'd agree even though he said he would run for a second term today in his announcement.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 25, 2018, 12:27:49 PM
ya no clue what the appeal of the kcmo’s mayor’s office is but the dnc telling him to sit there for a second makes sense
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 25, 2018, 12:36:18 PM
I would put the mayor of a kc sized city at equal to or higher than a house seat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 25, 2018, 01:19:02 PM
ya no clue what the appeal of the kcmo’s mayor’s office is but the dnc telling him to sit there for a second makes sense
If he loses to say a Quinton Lucas that would look pretty bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 25, 2018, 01:23:33 PM
Loses to who?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 25, 2018, 01:50:42 PM
I would put the mayor of a kc sized city at equal to or higher than a house seat

ours has some special challenges that decrease its value imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 25, 2018, 02:11:56 PM
Loses to who?
Quinton Lucas was the example given in my prior post.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 25, 2018, 02:13:45 PM
I would put the mayor of a kc sized city at equal to or higher than a house seat

ours has some special challenges that decrease its value imo
Doesn't appear so with all these well qualified candidates jockeying for it.

I know that doesn't fit your talking points about how bad KC is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 25, 2018, 02:29:11 PM
odd take
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 25, 2018, 02:52:32 PM
Loses to who?
Quinton Lucas was the example given in my prior post.

Who?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 25, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Loses to who?
Quinton Lucas was the example given in my prior post.

Who?
He is a neat guy....check him out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 26, 2018, 03:23:22 PM
I would put the mayor of a kc sized city at equal to or higher than a house seat

ours has some special challenges that decrease its value imo
Doesn't appear so with all these well qualified candidates jockeying for it.

I know that doesn't fit your talking points about how bad KC is.

@pissclams is right here, Phil. KC mayor isn’t really that great of a job, nor is it prestigious.

A house seat is probably perceived as a step above mayor of KC.

With that said I’m sure the DNC want/need Kander to hold an elected position ASAP and this was probably the easiest road for that.

Just my uneducated and unwanted opinion on that matter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2018, 03:56:12 PM
I would put the mayor of a kc sized city at equal to or higher than a house seat

ours has some special challenges that decrease its value imo
Doesn't appear so with all these well qualified candidates jockeying for it.

I know that doesn't fit your talking points about how bad KC is.

@pissclams is right here, Phil. KC mayor isn’t really that great of a job, nor is it prestigious.

A house seat is probably perceived as a step above mayor of KC.

With that said I’m sure the DNC want/need Kander to hold an elected position ASAP and this was probably the easiest road for that.

Just my uneducated and unwanted opinion on that matter.
I'd think it was pretty neat if you were mayor!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 26, 2018, 06:37:02 PM
I don't like it (kander4mayor)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 26, 2018, 06:41:21 PM
So Kander moved back to KC in 2017 only weeks before the deadline to run for 2019 mayor....that doesn't seem like an accident.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2018, 10:58:48 PM
not an accident at all, it’s an X Files episode.  a real mystery.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 05, 2018, 09:41:26 AM
http://kansascity.com/latest-news/article214309044.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 08, 2018, 11:57:20 AM
https://twitter.com/cronkb/status/1015985870330048519
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 08, 2018, 11:59:20 AM
Not enough beef in the beefed up security I guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 08, 2018, 12:24:36 PM
Disgusting
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2018, 12:43:13 PM
deathport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 08, 2018, 02:46:42 PM
Not enough beef in the beefed up security I guess

Kellys is saying on twitter that metal detectors aren't running yet?  No idea...haven't been there this year at night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
these victims’ blood is on the hands of anyone who spends a dime in that trash district
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 08:36:03 PM
This stud gets it!!!!

https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/1016823967879921664?s=21

Might go get a jean jacket tomorrow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 10, 2018, 09:54:52 PM
This stud gets it!!!!

https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/1016823967879921664?s=21

Might go get a jean jacket tomorrow.

Says OPKS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 09:56:33 PM
It’s where the action is when everything is dead with downtown development.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 09:59:00 PM
I heard there were 2 shootings outside my previous condo by the Quaff lately. Any comments, Phil?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 10, 2018, 10:03:42 PM
I heard there were 2 shootings outside my previous condo by the Quaff lately. Any comments, Phil?

gotta keep this hood in line since you left.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:06:37 PM
That could have been us, bud. They shot into our previous window. This isn’t about politics anymore. KCMO has a problem.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:07:19 PM
Trump, tho?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:12:18 PM
Sounds like from the scene it went through our living room window inside, through the kitchen window, but nobody got shot cause, on the couch. Thank you, ‘sly! Phew!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 10, 2018, 10:13:17 PM
prob should log off for the night....heat + booze has got you all   :Rusty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:17:53 PM
Nah, facts sucks. We lived in that spot two years ago. It’s scary.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:20:17 PM
prob should log off for the night....heat + booze has got you all   :Rusty:
The Quaff! Was there a scene out front recently?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:25:24 PM
Classic rough ridin' Phil. Figured you out, Night!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 10, 2018, 10:31:42 PM
 :adios:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:39:49 PM
Phil, what happened out there? Why’d they shoot into our previous place? White thugs, right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 10, 2018, 10:42:04 PM
 :sdeek:

night Wacky...take a knee a pick it up again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:44:21 PM
You know what happened but you’re being a bitch about it. That was our place bud, but you dgaf about it!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 10:50:13 PM
Classic Phil/sly.The news won’t report it, but I’m shook. Hope you feel safe in your ivory tower.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 10, 2018, 10:50:44 PM
You know what happened but you’re being a bitch about it. That was our place bud, but you dgaf about it!


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glad you are safe and made it out of the streets....thats what I gaf about. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2018, 11:44:28 PM
Thanks man, don’t think the quaff is safe anymore. Might ask sly to take you upstairs in the majestic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 12:15:29 AM
Just ftr, our previous place got shot into a couple of nights ago by the quaff. literally where Mrs Wacky and I hung out on the couch. Really hope sly finds a way to prevent this crap soon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 12:24:20 AM
I’m alluding to Phil working for sly and knowing exactly where we use to live and how it recently got shot into recently. But OP!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on July 11, 2018, 12:25:59 AM
I’m alluding to Phil working for sly and knowing exactly where we use to live and how it recently got shot into recently. But OP!


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Ya, that’s why I removed my post. I didn’t catch that on the first read through.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 12:36:03 AM
Totally fair. Kinda scary to think about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 08:26:33 AM
I bet wacky has quite a headache his morning after that display.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 08:29:06 AM
Actually, I feel great, because i'm not dead. I just wish 'sly would spend more time trying to protect KCMO citizens instead of finding new ways to spend their tax dollars.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 11, 2018, 08:32:36 AM
What are your suggestions
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 08:33:55 AM
Actually, I feel great, because i'm not dead. I just wish 'sly would spend more time trying to protect KCMO citizens instead of finding new ways to spend their tax dollars.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 11, 2018, 08:38:15 AM
Should probably start redistributing your wealth so that there aren’t so many desperate people around.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 08:41:57 AM
Actually, I feel great, because i'm not dead. I just wish 'sly would spend more time trying to protect KCMO citizens instead of finding new ways to spend their tax dollars.  :dunno:
I honestly have no idea what your rant was about last night. There was a shooting in front of quaff like a month ago...is that what you are talking about?

Crime sucks. Wish people didn't do crime. People do. It sucks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 08:44:01 AM
People are getting brave enough to shoot into sidewalk windows downtown, phil. 'Sly is dead set on expanding KC and has given zero effort to clean up one of the top crime ridden cities in America. Pretty sad mayor if you ask me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 08:44:36 AM
Totally fair. Kinda scary to think about.
It's also scary to think about that girl being snatched at the Target by oak Park Mall....or getting into a fiery car crash...or getting hit by a bus walking to work....or getting carjacked.

Live your life how you best see fit...never know when bad crap will happen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 08:48:15 AM
*Fart Noise*
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 08:50:04 AM
*Fart Noise*
This is what I hear when you try and drop knowledge about what sly hasn't done for crime in KCMO. It's not in your wheelhouse bud. Glad you got out of the pit that is quality hill before it was too late.  Be careful out there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 08:52:12 AM
 :lol: You literally spend all day shitting on Trump in the pit, but defend every shitty move of your commander here in KC. It's seriously astonishing how hypocritical you are at times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2018, 08:54:14 AM
sly literally tried to murder wacky and all phil can do is *Fart Noise*, sad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 08:56:15 AM
Wherever a Phil post is, a chodecat post is sure to follow and vice versa. Two peas in a pod.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 08:58:50 AM
You literally spend all day shitting on Trump in the pit, but defend every shitty move of your commander here in KC. It's seriously astonishing how hypocritical you are at times.
I'm not sure you understand that word....but to wet your whistle I think the sly sales tax idea for early education is a very stupid idea I will not be backing. He hasn't done enough on crime (although I don't know what else he can do, the problem is decades old).

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 11, 2018, 09:02:18 AM
What power does the kc mayor have regarding the police department when it's controlled by the state? I don't really know how that arrangement works.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 11, 2018, 09:06:12 AM
Guys, wacky almost died.  Show some damn respect.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 09:10:38 AM
It's all fun and games until a goddamn thug shoots into a Jose Peppers, dlew.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
What power does the kc mayor have regarding the police department when it's controlled by the state? I don't really know how that arrangement works.
He is a member of the commission. He helps set the budget the city gives to the police but has a small voice in how it's spent....last year PD spending was increased 3.3% by KCMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 10:57:08 AM
It's all fun and games until a goddamn thug shoots into a Jose Peppers, dlew.
Do you understand how widespread gun violence is in this metro? You won't be able to walk out your front door if you want to avoid all the places a shot has been fired.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 11, 2018, 11:03:24 AM
wacky what's your angle here, that the city is dangerous and phil/people are trying to deny it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2018, 11:17:06 AM
sounds like the prevalent argument here is that it's the police who control crime, when that's actually not the case
more police, less crime- sure.  but with more police also comes increased crime reporting so there's that.

but our pro slyers will only focus on his hands being tied and that there's nothing he can do because he doesn't control the police.  they ignore the causation because they're being the good little slyers that they were born to be.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 11:58:06 AM
I literally just posted he hasn't done enough but I'm not a criminal prevention dude to know what to suggest he do to a decades old problem.

My beef with the state controlled police board is that he and past mayors could very well be using that as a crutch....so remove that crutch and let him fix crime since he states it's an impediment.

sounds like the prevalent argument here is that it's the police who control crime, when that's actually not the case
more police, less crime- sure.  but with more police also comes increased crime reporting so there's that.

but our pro slyers will only focus on his hands being tied and that there's nothing he can do because he doesn't control the police.  they ignore the causation because they're being the good little slyers that they were born to be.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 12:29:04 PM
wacky what's your angle here, that the city is dangerous and phil/people are trying to deny it?
Just passing time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2018, 02:01:22 PM
I literally just posted he hasn't done enough but I'm not a criminal prevention dude to know what to suggest he do to a decades old problem.

My beef with the state controlled police board is that he and past mayors could very well be using that as a crutch....so remove that crutch and let him fix crime since he states it's an impediment.

sounds like the prevalent argument here is that it's the police who control crime, when that's actually not the case
more police, less crime- sure.  but with more police also comes increased crime reporting so there's that.

but our pro slyers will only focus on his hands being tied and that there's nothing he can do because he doesn't control the police.  they ignore the causation because they're being the good little slyers that they were born to be.


remove the crutch? just because slyin calls it a crutch, doesn't make it one.  the whole reason why mayors in missouri don't control the police is because corrupt past mayors exactly like sly forced the state to come in and remove that power.  of course slump (sly+trump) wants to consolidate power, ever hear of an oligarch that doesn't?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 02:04:02 PM


I literally just posted he hasn't done enough but I'm not a criminal prevention dude to know what to suggest he do to a decades old problem.

My beef with the state controlled police board is that he and past mayors could very well be using that as a crutch....so remove that crutch and let him fix crime since he states it's an impediment.

sounds like the prevalent argument here is that it's the police who control crime, when that's actually not the case
more police, less crime- sure.  but with more police also comes increased crime reporting so there's that.

but our pro slyers will only focus on his hands being tied and that there's nothing he can do because he doesn't control the police.  they ignore the causation because they're being the good little slyers that they were born to be.


remove the crutch? just because slyin calls it a crutch, doesn't make it one.  the whole reason why mayors in missouri don't control the police is because corrupt past mayors exactly like sly forced the state to come in and remove that power.  of course slump (sly+trump) wants to consolidate power, ever hear of an oligarch that doesn't?

Only one mayor in Missouri...or any state in the US actually.

Wow...sly and Trump are like polar opposites but nice job!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 11, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
It sounds like a case very well could be made that Wacky was shot by Common last night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 02:27:34 PM
It sounds like a case very well could be made that Wacky was shot by Common last night.
Dude haunts my entire family. Actually, Mrs wacky just told me about the shooting last night. I was super.  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2018, 02:29:37 PM


I literally just posted he hasn't done enough but I'm not a criminal prevention dude to know what to suggest he do to a decades old problem.

My beef with the state controlled police board is that he and past mayors could very well be using that as a crutch....so remove that crutch and let him fix crime since he states it's an impediment.

sounds like the prevalent argument here is that it's the police who control crime, when that's actually not the case
more police, less crime- sure.  but with more police also comes increased crime reporting so there's that.

but our pro slyers will only focus on his hands being tied and that there's nothing he can do because he doesn't control the police.  they ignore the causation because they're being the good little slyers that they were born to be.


remove the crutch? just because slyin calls it a crutch, doesn't make it one.  the whole reason why mayors in missouri don't control the police is because corrupt past mayors exactly like sly forced the state to come in and remove that power.  of course slump (sly+trump) wants to consolidate power, ever hear of an oligarch that doesn't?

Only one mayor in Missouri...or any state in the US actually.

Wow...sly and Trump are like polar opposites but nice job!

ok.  kcmo city government has a long history of corruption that continues to this day. 

does that make you feel better?  your boy slump is corrupt AF and you better hope that the new airport process doesn't get audited because slump and patrick klein will be going down in flames.

btw, how does someone who doesn't understand FAA rules and how environmental assessments work get a job being the aviation director?  who knows, i'm sure he's qualified in the non-airport/FAA parts of his job. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2018, 02:34:29 PM
Slump :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 11, 2018, 02:35:10 PM
Does KC have disproportionately worse crime than other places?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 02:39:56 PM
Does KC have disproportionately worse crime than other places?
The data is not kind to kcmo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 02:41:19 PM


I literally just posted he hasn't done enough but I'm not a criminal prevention dude to know what to suggest he do to a decades old problem.

My beef with the state controlled police board is that he and past mayors could very well be using that as a crutch....so remove that crutch and let him fix crime since he states it's an impediment.

sounds like the prevalent argument here is that it's the police who control crime, when that's actually not the case
more police, less crime- sure.  but with more police also comes increased crime reporting so there's that.

but our pro slyers will only focus on his hands being tied and that there's nothing he can do because he doesn't control the police.  they ignore the causation because they're being the good little slyers that they were born to be.


remove the crutch? just because slyin calls it a crutch, doesn't make it one.  the whole reason why mayors in missouri don't control the police is because corrupt past mayors exactly like sly forced the state to come in and remove that power.  of course slump (sly+trump) wants to consolidate power, ever hear of an oligarch that doesn't?

Only one mayor in Missouri...or any state in the US actually.

Wow...sly and Trump are like polar opposites but nice job!

ok.  kcmo city government has a long history of corruption that continues to this day. 

does that make you feel better?  your boy slump is corrupt AF and you better hope that the new airport process doesn't get audited because slump and patrick klein will be going down in flames.

btw, how does someone who doesn't understand FAA rules and how environmental assessments work get a job being the aviation director?  who knows, i'm sure he's qualified in the non-airport/FAA parts of his job.
Pat Klein does not seem up to this task I agree.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
he's not up to the task but that doesn't matter when you've spent 20 years solidifying your spot in the good old boy network and your boy troy appoints you to the position.  kcmo city politics at its finest. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 02:55:37 PM
he's not up to the task but that doesn't matter when you've spent 20 years solidifying your spot in the good old boy network and your boy troy appoints you to the position.  kcmo city politics at its finest.
You act like this is unique to government.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 11, 2018, 02:56:02 PM
Does KC have disproportionately worse crime than other places?
The data is not kind to kcmo

Show me (ha!).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 11, 2018, 03:07:09 PM
#6!

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 11, 2018, 03:10:26 PM
I see things like that, but then when I look at the numbers that separate the spots, there just isn't that much difference proportionately and not one that I think people would discern just living normally in the same places.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2018, 03:17:56 PM
#6!

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/

did you just link a slideshow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 11, 2018, 03:20:18 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
I see things like that, but then when I look at the numbers that separate the spots, there just isn't that much difference proportionately and not one that I think people would discern just living normally in the same places.
Quit being reasonable .....wackys old apartment had a shooting by it last month....this is serious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 04:50:11 PM
Anybody jump on a bird scooter yet?

Trim does this fall into "nobody should bike after college" category?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
I see things like that, but then when I look at the numbers that separate the spots, there just isn't that much difference proportionately and not one that I think people would discern just living normally in the same places.
Quit being reasonable .....wackys old apartment had a shooting by it last month....this is serious.
Pfftt. Downtown KC is a dump!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 04:57:11 PM
Anybody jump on a bird scooter yet?

Trim does this fall into "nobody should bike after college" category?
Nobody knows wtf that is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 11, 2018, 05:02:17 PM
Anybody jump on a bird scooter yet?

Trim does this fall into "nobody should bike after college" category?

It's after the completion of education, regardless of what level that is.  And yes, post-education humans should be moving by walking, transit or vehicle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
Anybody jump on a bird scooter yet?

Trim does this fall into "nobody should bike after college" category?
Nobody knows wtf that is.
Google.com
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 05:39:07 PM
I see things like that, but then when I look at the numbers that separate the spots, there just isn't that much difference proportionately and not one that I think people would discern just living normally in the same places.
Quit being reasonable .....wackys old apartment had a shooting by it last month....this is serious.
Pfftt. Downtown KC is a dump!
Sounds like something a turd eater would say.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2018, 06:35:24 PM
coming in at 225, i’m too big of a strapping man for the scooters
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
coming in at 225, i’m too big of a strapping man for the scooters
They can handle it. Even took me up quite a few hills on my two rides.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2018, 08:10:50 PM
Why would you need that when we have a streetcar? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 11, 2018, 08:13:32 PM
I really like this idea, brings some revenue to under employed people too it sounds like.  Has to be a way to clean up the logistics of people just leaving scooters strewn about which appears to have been Birds demise in Denver.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2018, 08:21:38 PM
they’re really popular in LA but you can’t ride them on sidewalks and they’re dui magnets
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 08:38:21 PM
they’re really popular in LA but you can’t ride them on sidewalks and they’re dui magnets

I can't imagine riding one pak'd.....I think they are technically illegal here on the sidewalks but our sidewalks are so dead that's where I'm riding.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 11, 2018, 08:41:26 PM
Great for speeding away from deathport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2018, 09:31:34 PM
bike lanes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 10:21:00 PM
bike lanes
If we had any....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 11, 2018, 10:38:11 PM
I think they are technically illegal here on the sidewalks but our sidewalks are so dead that's where I'm riding.

If not illegal, definitely unethical.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2018, 10:45:36 PM
Anybody jump on a bird scooter yet?

Trim does this fall into "nobody should bike after college" category?

It's after the completion of education, regardless of what level that is.  And yes, post-education humans should be moving by walking, transit or vehicle.
How does the no bicycles thing jive with trim 3:16
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
I think they are technically illegal here on the sidewalks but our sidewalks are so dead that's where I'm riding.

If not illegal, definitely unethical.
First time I get whacked by these when I'm walking to KCFD brewery I'm not going to be pleased.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 11, 2018, 11:17:18 PM
Anybody jump on a bird scooter yet?

Trim does this fall into "nobody should bike after college" category?

It's after the completion of education, regardless of what level that is.  And yes, post-education humans should be moving by walking, transit or vehicle.
How does the no bicycles thing jive with trim 3:16

There are often consequences to doing whatever you want.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 12, 2018, 06:22:37 AM
they’re really popular in LA but you can’t ride them on sidewalks and they’re dui magnets

I can't imagine riding one pak'd.....I think they are technically illegal here on the sidewalks but our sidewalks are so dead that's where I'm riding.
Are they gonna ticket people for riding w/o a helmet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 12, 2018, 07:27:46 AM
Anybody jump on a bird scooter yet?

Trim does this fall into "nobody should bike after college" category?

It's after the completion of education, regardless of what level that is.  And yes, post-education humans should be moving by walking, transit or vehicle.
How does the no bicycles thing jive with trim 3:16

There are often consequences to doing whatever you want.

yes yes i know that.

i don't consider Trim telling me not to bike a consequence.
but i do consider it contradictory for Trim tell me to do what i want, and simultaneously to not bike.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 12, 2018, 07:30:26 AM
they’re really popular in LA but you can’t ride them on sidewalks and they’re dui magnets

I can't imagine riding one pak'd.....I think they are technically illegal here on the sidewalks but our sidewalks are so dead that's where I'm riding.
Are they gonna ticket people for riding w/o a helmet?
MO doesn't have a helmet law from what I know. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 12, 2018, 08:53:58 AM
Anybody jump on a bird scooter yet?

Trim does this fall into "nobody should bike after college" category?

It's after the completion of education, regardless of what level that is.  And yes, post-education humans should be moving by walking, transit or vehicle.
How does the no bicycles thing jive with trim 3:16

There are often consequences to doing whatever you want.

yes yes i know that.

i don't consider Trim telling me not to bike a consequence.
but i do consider it contradictory for Trim tell me to do what i want, and simultaneously to not bike.

Post-education biking should be illegal, like murder. You could still do it if you want, but there’d be the risk of consequences.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 12, 2018, 08:55:41 AM
that is a pretty hardline stance. seattle bikers must have obnoxious "biking" clothes and whatnot  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 12, 2018, 09:05:11 AM
Can we talk about what a cesspool Missouri is? They have two cities ranked in the top 10 in crime ridden cities in the US. rough ridin' woof! St. Louis is actually ranked globally as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 12, 2018, 09:12:34 AM
Can we talk about what a cesspool Missouri is? They have two cities ranked in the top 10 in crime ridden cities in the US. rough ridin' woof! St. Louis is actually ranked globally as well.
This should probably be a wacky world discussion...you keep trying to bait it but nobody is biting.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 12, 2018, 09:17:35 AM
There's no baiting. It's clear facts, bub. Either you accept it or you don't. Missouri is hot garbage.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 12, 2018, 09:27:25 AM
There's no baiting. It's clear facts, bub. Either you accept it or you don't. Missouri is hot garbage.
Yup...accepted.  great insight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 12, 2018, 09:38:50 AM
How much do you post on NextDoor, wacky? I think you’d really get into it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 12, 2018, 09:41:07 AM
First time of hearing about it. Might need to look into this SOB!  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 12, 2018, 09:46:35 AM
First time of hearing about it.

wackycat might be a russian bot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 12, 2018, 09:49:14 AM
How much do you post on NextDoor, wacky? I think you’d really get into it

Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 12, 2018, 09:53:13 AM
chodecat gets very offended when you make fun of his shitty state.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 13, 2018, 12:10:27 PM
Jason Kander is at county road ice house rn. He looks exactly like his twitter profile pic
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2018, 12:14:45 PM
Probably plotting how to fleece the city as effectively as slump
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2018, 01:23:22 PM
this is fantastic
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article214693535.html

just another day in kcmo city politics

Quote
Taylor was lambasted last week by Mayor Sly James, who called it “a transparently political move” intended to force opponents to go on the record in opposing basic ethics reform.

slump is so rough ridin' corrupt.  how dare a politician who is running for office make a transparently political move.  as i've said several hundred times throughout this thread, slump really prefers a total lack of transparency.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 13, 2018, 01:55:23 PM
Can we talk about what a cesspool Missouri is? They have two cities ranked in the top 10 in crime ridden cities in the US. rough ridin' woof! St. Louis is actually ranked globally as well.

You know, for many years I had only driven through St. Louis, finally a couple of years ago I had a business trip there, conference in their Union Station, which wasn't bad.   But I was aghast at how awful it was in total, and I give most places the benefit of the doubt when you're just there for just a snapshot trip and gone, but St. Louis, WOOF. 

KC is a much nicer city overall.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 13, 2018, 02:00:10 PM
St. Louis's downtown is woof central. There's nothing to do other than the Cardinals too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2018, 02:59:19 PM
kc is light years better than st. louis
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2018, 03:02:10 PM
St Louis  :lol:

Might as well live in Kentucky or Alabama  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 13, 2018, 04:14:54 PM
St Louis  :lol:

Might as well live in Kentucky or Alabama  :lol:

James Beard award winning restaurants in Alabama, friend.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 17, 2018, 07:57:57 PM
https://twitter.com/JoeKCI/status/1019237672978563072?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 17, 2018, 08:46:55 PM
Gotta be those direct flights to Iceland.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 17, 2018, 08:53:18 PM
That's a great looking airplane.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 17, 2018, 09:24:19 PM
with growth like that i’d say it seems like the airport is functioning pretty well, obviously the lies about airlines and passengers avoiding mic have now been debunked.  how can anybody justify spending $2B on a new one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 17, 2018, 09:26:37 PM
with growth like that i’d say it seems like the airport is functioning pretty well, obviously the lies about airlines and passengers avoiding mic have now been debunked.  how can anybody justify spending $2B on a new one?

ain't no seats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 17, 2018, 09:28:15 PM
with growth like that i’d say it seems like the airport is functioning pretty well, obviously the lies about airlines and passengers avoiding mic have now been debunked.  how can anybody justify spending $2B on a new one?

ain't no seats

Have been for 48 of the past 49 months  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 17, 2018, 09:29:53 PM
That's also with 2/3 terminals even being in operation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 17, 2018, 09:51:43 PM
Because the airport is kinda shitty? :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 17, 2018, 10:04:58 PM
The reasons for building a new terminal haven't changed (horrible experience, old, doesn't work)....clams just whiffed on his prediction that 1.9% annual growth was an unreasonable assumption to base financing on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 17, 2018, 10:07:50 PM
The reasons for building a new terminal haven't changed (horrible experience, old, doesn't work)....clams just whiffed on his prediction that 1.9% annual growth was an unreasonable assumption to base financing on.

Umm...It has worked, 48 of the past 49 months  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 17, 2018, 10:41:20 PM
Because the airport is kinda shitty? :dunno:
but apparently it’s not, apparently people lied to you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 18, 2018, 08:09:52 AM
Yeah, looks like it's working really well. Not sure the 'ole "because it's kinda shitty" is worth the 2 Billion $ talking point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 18, 2018, 08:15:16 AM
Because the airport is kinda shitty? :dunno:
but apparently it’s not, apparently people lied to you

i'm sure you're not suggesting that a lot of people using a thing inherently makes that thing not shitty.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 18, 2018, 08:41:51 AM
Yeah, looks like it's working really well. Not sure the 'ole "because it's kinda shitty" is worth the 2 Billion $ talking point.
Why renovate your house...you already sleep in it every night.

Why rebuild k10/435...lots of people drive on it daily.

Coattailing every clams point is adorbs but not very thought provoking.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 18, 2018, 08:43:28 AM
If I renovated my house at those costs, i'd be bankrupt for sure.  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 18, 2018, 08:48:12 AM
If I renovated my house at those costs, i'd be bankrupt for sure.  :surprised:
Cost will go up 3 bucks on your ticket. I think you can afford it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 18, 2018, 09:13:05 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/de/4e/97de4ec311dc49e4b3344e93d7bd2638.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2018, 11:21:04 AM
If I renovated my house at those costs, i'd be bankrupt for sure.  :surprised:
Cost will go up 3 bucks on your ticket. I think you can afford it.

sorry but those lies have been debunked too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2018, 11:21:47 AM
Because the airport is kinda shitty? :dunno:
but apparently it’s not, apparently people lied to you

i'm sure you're not suggesting that a lot of people using a thing inherently makes that thing not shitty.

i'm sure i'm not either
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 18, 2018, 12:33:16 PM
If I renovated my house at those costs, i'd be bankrupt for sure.  :surprised:
Cost will go up 3 bucks on your ticket. I think you can afford it.

sorry but those lies have been debunked too
Where?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2018, 01:55:12 PM
2nd grade math class
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 18, 2018, 02:07:45 PM
2nd grade math class
Lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 18, 2018, 02:40:24 PM
Because the airport is kinda shitty? :dunno:
but apparently it’s not, apparently people lied to you

i'm sure you're not suggesting that a lot of people using a thing inherently makes that thing not shitty.

i'm sure i'm not either

WHEW! for a second i thought you were but then i was like nah no way he would do that.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 18, 2018, 07:51:59 PM
Is it possible to think your airport is complete dogshit & think $2,000,000,000 is a crap load of money?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 18, 2018, 08:03:33 PM
You would think so, but it’s 2018, so everyone is holding their cards tightly to their chest. Although this has been going on for awhile now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2018, 08:03:45 PM
Is it possible to think your airport is complete dogshit & think $2,000,000,000 is a crap load of money?
not in slump’s world.
also of note is that by the time the bonds are paid back at today’s $1.4B, we’re actually talking $3B. but of course the amount financed will be much more than $1.4B as the costs continue to creep up.  not bad!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2018, 08:05:49 PM
we should thank slump for having the balls to spend our grandchildren’s money this way.  not many men have such strength to eff an entire generation over.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 18, 2018, 08:07:55 PM
brass balls

third term???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 18, 2018, 08:08:28 PM
Also, I have to come KC this weekend.  Last year I risked my children's lives by taking them to Quality Hill and on the street car of death.  Should I risk it again or just bunker down in Columbus Park the whole time?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 18, 2018, 08:10:57 PM
we should thank slump for having the balls to spend our grandchildren’s money this way.  not many men have such strength to eff an entire generation over.

Sick that 75% of KCMO didn't care about the kids....who will sure enjoy their flying experience if they can afford the $50 waters and $5000 tickets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 18, 2018, 08:11:52 PM
Also, I have to come KC this weekend.  Last year I risked my children's lives by taking them to Quality Hill and on the street car of death.  Should I risk it again or just bunker down in Columbus Park the whole time?

BKS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 18, 2018, 08:15:55 PM
Also, I have to come KC this weekend.  Last year I risked my children's lives by taking them to Quality Hill and on the street car of death.  Should I risk it again or just bunker down in Columbus Park the whole time?

BKS

With those kids mixed with my kids?  Hard pass.  I'll risk Quality Hill. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2018, 08:25:09 PM
we should thank slump for having the balls to spend our grandchildren’s money this way.  not many men have such strength to eff an entire generation over.

Sick that 75% of KCMO didn't care about the kids....who will sure enjoy their flying experience if they can afford the $50 waters and $5000 tickets.

can’t blame slump’s base, they’ve been lied to so much they think up is down and down is up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 18, 2018, 08:48:34 PM
Also, I have to come KC this weekend.  Last year I risked my children's lives by taking them to Quality Hill and on the street car of death.  Should I risk it again or just bunker down in Columbus Park the whole time?

BKS
This isn’t your fight, ‘burglar. Enjoy the free crap of KC on us and enjoy! :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on July 22, 2018, 01:12:27 PM
https://twitter.com/tylerrichmusic/status/1021088230366760960?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 22, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Who’s that guy?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 22, 2018, 02:06:08 PM
Who’s that guy?
Obv not a airport elite that would know s good airport if it hit him in his fat Nashville face.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 22, 2018, 04:16:26 PM
At least Nashville has an Admirals Club
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 22, 2018, 05:58:18 PM
At least Nashville has an Admirals Club
Who needs those except those media elites.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 23, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
Nashville has little dick syndrome comparing itself to KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 23, 2018, 01:35:01 PM
At least Nashville has an Admirals Club

why would kci need an admiral's club?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 23, 2018, 01:47:45 PM
At least Nashville has an Admirals Club

why would kci need an admiral's club?

for us admirals
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 23, 2018, 03:40:45 PM
At least Nashville has an Admirals Club

why would kci need an admiral's club?

for us admirals

If you live in KC why are you getting there early enough to need an admiral club? :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 23, 2018, 04:11:33 PM
At least Nashville has an Admirals Club

why would kci need an admiral's club?

for us admirals

If you live in KC why are you getting there early enough to need an admiral club? :confused:

Do Admiral stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 23, 2018, 04:16:05 PM
At least Nashville has an Admirals Club

why would kci need an admiral's club?

for us admirals

If you live in KC why are you getting there early enough to need an admiral club? :confused:

Do Admiral stuff.

You’ve really thought this through, I’m impressed.  #ProAdmiralClub
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 23, 2018, 06:14:33 PM
free ketchup  :lol:

https://twitter.com/spokeskc/status/1021208316184268801
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 23, 2018, 09:07:56 PM
Nashville >>>>>> KC

Sorry dorks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 24, 2018, 10:54:29 AM
Nashville >>>>>> KC

Sorry dorks

wichita  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on July 24, 2018, 12:47:30 PM
free ketchup  :lol:

https://twitter.com/spokeskc/status/1021208316184268801

man, so edgy. I wonder if they will also say something mean about trump?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 24, 2018, 01:08:35 PM
there are like a million people downtown rn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 24, 2018, 01:13:40 PM
it's kind of like the world series parade, except if some of the people were mets fans
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on July 24, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
That parade was terrible. Least enjoyable moment of my life
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 24, 2018, 02:00:43 PM
That parade was terrible. Least enjoyable moment of my life

pretty jealous of your life tbh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 24, 2018, 07:23:52 PM
My car service got stuck, Waze had a clutch route to kci, saw AF1 take off
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 24, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
My car service got stuck, Waze had a clutch route to kci, saw AF1 take off
Goosebumps just thinking about watching that sex bird roll back
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 30, 2018, 08:27:12 PM
https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/1024075508907167744

not sure Birds have been brought up elsewhere. Haven't rode one yet. Looks like they really scoot. When will the first person get smacked on a Bird by the streetcar?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 30, 2018, 09:06:22 PM
https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/1024075508907167744

not sure Birds have been brought up elsewhere. Haven't rode one yet. Looks like they really scoot. When will the first person get smacked on a Bird by the streetcar?
They've been around for about two weeks now... Not heard of any incidents.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on July 31, 2018, 10:05:39 AM
https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/1024075508907167744

not sure Birds have been brought up elsewhere. Haven't rode one yet. Looks like they really scoot. When will the first person get smacked on a Bird by the streetcar?
They've been around for about two weeks now... Not heard of any incidents.

Right - was in and around Double Shift a couple Saturday's ago, & via my buddy's app, it looked like maybe a half dozen visible in the area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 31, 2018, 10:52:11 AM
can co they are all over the place
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 31, 2018, 12:35:05 PM
https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/1024075508907167744

not sure Birds have been brought up elsewhere. Haven't rode one yet. Looks like they really scoot. When will the first person get smacked on a Bird by the streetcar?
They've been around for about two weeks now... Not heard of any incidents.

Right - was in and around Double Shift a couple Saturday's ago, & via my buddy's app, it looked like maybe a half dozen visible in the area.
Actually just heard a guy at work busted his ankle on one last week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 31, 2018, 12:35:33 PM
can co they are all over the place
15 miles is kind of their distance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 31, 2018, 01:42:29 PM
can co they are all over the place
15 miles is kind of their distance.

I didn't mean in Leawood, I mean by my office and my rental.  The app confirms
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 31, 2018, 05:04:44 PM
what are they building to the east of 35 at the West Pennway exit?

apartments

http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/ (http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/)

hmm bet those tenants are happy with themselves right now
not only because hey live right on top of I-35, but also because there’s an 18 wheeler filled with hay on fire on i-35, outside of their greatly located place
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 31, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
what are they building to the east of 35 at the West Pennway exit?

apartments

http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/ (http://cityscaperesidential.com/portfolio/crossroads-westside/)

hmm bet those tenants are happy with themselves right now
not only because hey live right on top of I-35, but also because there’s an 18 wheeler filled with hay on fire on i-35, outside of their greatly located place
Yeah yuck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 02, 2018, 09:38:51 PM
https://twitter.com/betsykctv5/status/1025206943349186560
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 02, 2018, 09:47:10 PM
Jeez :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2018, 10:01:51 PM
Woof! KCMO!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 03, 2018, 12:08:31 AM
Woof! KCMO!
Feels good to distance yourself and call it someone else's problem.... But what about the shoes wacky.... What about the shoes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2018, 08:19:02 AM
Feels good to be safe in my mansion, phil. Don't hate, congratulate.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 03, 2018, 08:31:39 AM
I wouldn't feel too safe with those publicly known busted doors  :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2018, 08:49:50 AM
 :D I just go through the garage now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 03, 2018, 09:04:06 AM
Feels good to be safe in my mansion, phil. Don't hate, congratulate.

Glad you could escape the ghetto.  it's a real American success story!  nothing but love for you IRL bud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 03, 2018, 09:08:24 AM
Hard to stay humble when you're always shining, you know?  :cheers: Ditto!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 05, 2018, 09:55:26 AM
https://twitter.com/jtoyoshiba/status/1026108770118774784
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 11:43:47 AM
JFC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 05, 2018, 11:46:51 AM
Jeez KC, chill
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 01:00:19 PM
Always the Missouri side :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 05, 2018, 01:54:58 PM
Always the Missouri side :frown:
Amazing we are alive
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 05, 2018, 02:10:26 PM
It’s a problem but anyone who thinks it’s a freak occurrence that an urban core of over 500k has street violence in the summer needs to travel some.

Also, if you think it’s Missouri side only you really really need to travel
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 02:12:00 PM
2 of the top 15 most crime ridden cities in the US are in Missouri. Nothing to see here.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 05, 2018, 02:13:55 PM
KCK is no treat.  And I own property in both states so I def wish MO would get their crap together
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 02:16:10 PM
I blame Missouri ppl in office like Phil. They’re too busy trying to pimp street cars and airport expansion to care about human lives.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 05, 2018, 02:17:46 PM
That’s sarcasm I’m sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 02:19:42 PM
It’s more bait than anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 05, 2018, 02:22:28 PM
That’s more crap for a Monday afternoon not a sunny Sunday afternoon.  I’m gonna go catch the streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 02:22:55 PM
 :frown:

https://twitter.com/anthonybarnerjr/status/1025352461014507520?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 02:24:28 PM
That’s more crap for a Monday afternoon not a sunny Sunday afternoon.  I’m gonna go catch the streetcar
surely you can walk 1.2 miles and not stand in a line.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 05, 2018, 02:28:33 PM
Yikes I might move to Chicago where it's safe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 02:33:05 PM
You live in a small town in KS. :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 05, 2018, 02:41:39 PM
Took a bird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 02:44:01 PM
There’s no way a rich guy like you took either route of destination.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 05, 2018, 02:49:08 PM
Well said
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 05, 2018, 08:32:37 PM
I blame Missouri ppl in office like Phil. They’re too busy trying to pimp street cars and airport expansion to care about human lives.
Not very good at this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2018, 08:34:24 PM
I hope you tell sly that constantly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 05, 2018, 08:59:19 PM
I hope you tell sly that constantly
Get back from chili's late tonight?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 05, 2018, 09:17:58 PM
Yikes I might move to Chicago where it's safe.
Come to Lakeview, super safe here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2018, 08:07:58 AM
I hope you tell sly that constantly
Get back from chili's late tonight?
wut
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 08:25:55 AM
I hope you tell sly that constantly
Get back from chili's late tonight?
wut
Seemed to have a couple extra brewtuses making you all fighty.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2018, 08:48:59 AM
Nah, also, there's probably a chili's closer to you than there is from my house right now.  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 06, 2018, 09:06:53 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 09:11:16 AM
Nah, also, there's probably a chili's closer to you than there is from my house right now.  :th_twocents:
That sucks. T&Ps
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2018, 09:36:08 AM
:lol:
What's funny?  :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2018, 09:53:14 AM
Chili's fajitas  :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2018, 10:05:48 AM
chilis fajitas and chili's cheese dip are both  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 06, 2018, 11:09:00 AM
Chili's is a top 5 mexican restaurant in the KC metro. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 06, 2018, 11:13:18 AM
:lol:
What's funny?  :confused:

i thought you were into geography m8
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2018, 12:25:59 PM
Chili's is a top 5 mexican restaurant in the KC metro. 

easily

cactus
jose peppers (any location)
el pollo rey
chili's
jarochos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
Chili's is a top 5 mexican restaurant in the KC metro.
I didn't know chili's was classified as Mexican tbh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2018, 12:47:07 PM
Ur fking clueless dude
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2018, 12:48:40 PM
wtf how did i not know that chili's is french food? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 12:50:16 PM
Ur fking clueless dude
I barely get through life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 06, 2018, 12:59:57 PM
Best margs in town?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 06, 2018, 01:01:12 PM
Mission Taco











Psych. Jose Peppers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2018, 01:10:04 PM
best marg in town is obvs ponaks, which also has the worst food
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
best marg in town is obvs ponaks, which also has the worst food
I've found a couple things there that i enjoy... Their salsa is so lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2018, 01:29:14 PM
you shouldn't have to try to find good food at a restaurant, eff that kitchen and embrace the bar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 06, 2018, 01:33:33 PM
best marg in town is obvs ponaks, which also has the worst food
I've found a couple things there that i enjoy... Their salsa is so lol
I'm convinced they just pour ketchup into the bowls.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 01:37:05 PM
you shouldn't have to try to find good food at a restaurant, eff that kitchen and embrace the bar
Nothing wrong with that approach.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on August 06, 2018, 01:50:26 PM
Ur fking clueless dude
I barely get through life.
thinking you can order a Brewtus at Chili's is just ignorant
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 06, 2018, 01:55:41 PM
what is the actual best mexican in kcmo?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 06, 2018, 02:07:32 PM
JP/Cactus
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 06, 2018, 02:14:47 PM
what about kcmo? north of the river doesn't count LOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 02:45:47 PM
Like texmex or "authentic"?
what about kcmo? north of the river doesn't count LOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 02:46:55 PM
Ur fking clueless dude
I barely get through life.
thinking you can order a Brewtus at Chili's is just ignorant
This is accurate I guess.... Everybody that knows. Where brewtuses are actually served should proceed immediately to the shame thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 06, 2018, 03:06:49 PM
ponak's serves up the best authentic mom's style mexican cuisine
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2018, 03:08:08 PM
Sorry brewtus, slyin phil is just too cool to slam ice cold 20oz dom's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 06, 2018, 03:10:18 PM
ponak's serves up the best authentic mom's style mexican cuisine

my mom would laugh me right out of the kitchen if i requested some deep fried #22 sonoran tacos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 03:28:30 PM
So good
ponak's serves up the best authentic mom's style mexican cuisine

my mom would laugh me right out of the kitchen if i requested some deep fried #22 sonoran tacos
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 06, 2018, 03:29:03 PM
Sorry brewtus, slyin phil is just too cool to slam ice cold 20oz dom's
Aren't they like 32oz?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2018, 03:44:13 PM
jfc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2018, 02:32:18 PM
 :love:

https://twitter.com/kckimchi/status/1027271935036715008
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 08, 2018, 02:34:33 PM
there is a bar opening at river front park where you can bring your dog and buy your dog a restaurant perpared meal. for your dog.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 08, 2018, 02:39:23 PM
there is a bar opening at river front park where you can bring your dog and buy your dog a restaurant perpared meal. for your dog.

ah, yes. apparently you can buy memberships to this bar?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 08, 2018, 02:43:02 PM
there is a bar opening at river front park where you can bring your dog and buy your dog a restaurant perpared meal. for your dog.

ah, yes. apparently you can buy memberships to this bar?

you can. because a dog can tell a difference between some random dog bar and a park which is free
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2018, 02:46:50 PM
have you guys ever taken your dog to chiken n pickle?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2018, 03:01:29 PM
there is a bar opening at river front park where you can bring your dog and buy your dog a restaurant perpared meal. for your dog.

ah, yes. apparently you can buy memberships to this bar?

you can. because a dog can tell a difference between some random dog bar and a park which is free
I'm not a dog owner but I'm excited for this place just to have somewhere to booze by the river.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 03:05:11 PM
What's the dog menu
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 08, 2018, 03:06:06 PM
i kind of get it. it's a place you can go hangout and booze and let your dog roam free. i'm just skeptical of the cost associated when you start talking about memberships. i was told if you don't have a membership the "cover" for your dog is $10 to enter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 08, 2018, 03:07:43 PM
i mean whoa
https://www.barkdogbar.com/about-us/ (https://www.barkdogbar.com/about-us/)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 08, 2018, 03:10:40 PM
i kind of get it. it's a place you can go hangout and booze and let your dog roam free. i'm just skeptical of the cost associated when you start talking about memberships. i was told if you don't have a membership the "cover" for your dog is $10 to enter.

yeah taking your pet out on a date and buying it dinner at a bar after paying a cover to get in seems totally normal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2018, 03:19:20 PM
i kind of get it. it's a place you can go hangout and booze and let your dog roam free. i'm just skeptical of the cost associated when you start talking about memberships. i was told if you don't have a membership the "cover" for your dog is $10 to enter.
Humans are free!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 08, 2018, 03:29:52 PM
'Bar K' ..... get it?  ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 03:32:02 PM
Sounds great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 08, 2018, 03:58:19 PM
it's just an uppity place for singles that are dog lovers. weeds out the riff raff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 04:24:06 PM
Need a dive bar k
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
Guys, it's chicken N pickle! https://www.chickennpickle.com/ It's where I first met Gator.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 05:14:14 PM
there is a bar opening at river front park where you can bring your dog and buy your dog a restaurant perpared meal. for your dog.

ah, yes. apparently you can buy memberships to this bar?

Woof, no thx
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2018, 06:00:09 PM
there is a bar opening at river front park where you can bring your dog and buy your dog a restaurant perpared meal. for your dog.

ah, yes. apparently you can buy memberships to this bar?

Woof, no thx
Ahhhaaaa.... I got it!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2018, 10:34:55 PM
bark is owned by a fellow super stud wildcat, go cats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 11:33:22 PM
I reserve the right to question the mental health of any weirdo who takes their dog to a restaurant and orders it a meal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on August 09, 2018, 08:23:52 AM
https://twitter.com/KCMOManager/status/1024075508907167744

not sure Birds have been brought up elsewhere. Haven't rode one yet. Looks like they really scoot. When will the first person get smacked on a Bird by the streetcar?
They've been around for about two weeks now... Not heard of any incidents.

Right - was in and around Double Shift a couple Saturday's ago, & via my buddy's app, it looked like maybe a half dozen visible in the area.
Actually just heard a guy at work busted his ankle on one last week.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article216309400.html

Quote
The Country Club Plaza is a no-fly zone for the new Bird rental scooters until further notice because of safety issues, the California company and the shopping district’s management said Wednesday.

Users got the word via app Wednesday morning: “Please do not ride or drop in this area,” said the message, which included a pink-shaded map of the Plaza.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2018, 08:28:10 AM
Whew all the plaza pedestrian safety problems are fixed now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2018, 09:22:20 AM
Whew all the plaza pedestrian safety problems are fixed now.
'

this isn't making it worse
and the council doesn't have time for such menial issues as pedestrian safety
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: schreds21 on August 10, 2018, 08:10:21 PM
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.visitkansascityks.com%2Fsp%2Fdate-night-fun%2Findex.html&h=AT2-Y1Sw7ez1ejM65W46HI5Xx54OkFBsK9EZUd3Y8VFdrjQAaoQZ9o1FEUTiMs837Dj2teoFY0_AQjIaLufJkzU6QPV9Xtk8qyJivqfGspCAaSJG6hb8ICRkp24udtZozfwXcvOnGyN2eiiFsnlnLA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2018, 12:43:18 PM
https://fox4kc.com/2018/08/16/aviation-committee-releases-new-photos-of-plan-for-new-kc-airport/amp/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 16, 2018, 01:02:34 PM
going to WoF this weekend  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 16, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
https://fox4kc.com/2018/08/16/aviation-committee-releases-new-photos-of-plan-for-new-kc-airport/amp/

Congratulations, Kansas City!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 16, 2018, 07:08:36 PM
https://fox4kc.com/2018/08/16/aviation-committee-releases-new-photos-of-plan-for-new-kc-airport/amp/

Congratulations, Kansas City!

I am glad to have it becoming a reality. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 17, 2018, 10:39:42 AM
it’s not
that’s just more chum in the water
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on August 17, 2018, 01:32:54 PM
ethnic fest at swope park this weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 17, 2018, 01:37:21 PM
Craig Glazer died, as have all his brothers.   Stanfords gone for good..
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 17, 2018, 01:43:10 PM
Think about it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 17, 2018, 02:51:39 PM
think about all these dumbasses leaving their bird scooters around the plaza

also think about dollar tree in westport burning down this afternoon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2018, 02:56:01 PM
i hope it takes first watch down with it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2018, 02:56:44 PM
but srsly is the owner of nature's own made out of gasoline or what's the deal here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 17, 2018, 03:47:59 PM
(https://i.giphy.com/media/6qucjoZKzbFRK/200.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 17, 2018, 05:02:20 PM
best not eff up mike’s liquor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2018, 09:38:12 PM
best not eff up mike’s liquor

Oh word, bitch - dave chappelle voice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 18, 2018, 04:49:09 PM
Coldest beer in town
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 18, 2018, 04:53:59 PM
big fan of that mike's liquor  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 18, 2018, 06:05:16 PM
he sat next to me on a flight from chicago when we had a mods PAK and told me all about the business plan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2018, 10:09:13 AM
My god, we went to our favorite mexican restaurant yesterday (margaritas of course) for a late lunch and I ordered their puffy steak taco and omg, what a game changer. That place is a miracle worker.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2018, 10:12:09 AM
Quote
Soft or Puffy Taco$3.89
Your choice of chicken, ground beef, shredded beef, pork or potato.
- Shrimp, fajita chicken, tilapia (with mango salsa) or steak (with queso fresco) $6.19

The queso fresco is an amazing touch to the process of the taco.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2018, 10:13:36 AM
My god, we went to our favorite mexican restaurant yesterday (margaritas of course) for a late lunch and I ordered their puffy steak taco and omg, what a game changer. That place is a miracle worker.
On the blvd? They renovated inside didn't they? Never go there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2018, 10:14:21 AM
Lenexa, but blvd use to be my jam back in the day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 20, 2018, 10:34:46 AM
Quote
Soft or Puffy Taco$3.89
Your choice of chicken, ground beef, shredded beef, pork or potato.
- Shrimp, fajita chicken, tilapia (with mango salsa) or steak (with queso fresco) $6.19

The queso fresco is an amazing touch to the process of the taco.

What is a Puffy taco? Is that a Gordita/Chalupa tortilla?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2018, 10:36:52 AM
It's like a  crispy crunchy flour shell.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2018, 10:38:39 AM
And it's puffy, literally a puffy taco

No-Katdaddy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 20, 2018, 10:40:03 AM
So it’s a chalupa, got it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2018, 10:43:04 AM
I'm gonna have to get a couple of these to go for a cats clams pak this year so I can have you guys taste heaven.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 20, 2018, 10:44:42 AM
They do sound delicious :lick:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 20, 2018, 11:13:00 AM
I think any solid  "Mexican" place serves a fried flour shelled taco.  Ponaks calls them sonoras.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2018, 12:16:56 PM
A friend told me that sol y sabor Azteca has been re-branded again. Hope the menu didn't change
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 20, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
the boulevard margarita's is still being remodeled, they said sometime in september

shake shack's opening is eminent (domain?)

imminent.  went by this weekend and it looks like they could open in seconds.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 20, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 20, 2018, 02:47:48 PM
going to WoF this weekend  :excited:
Phone fell out of my pocket during one of the corkscrew things on the Patriot.

Rode the ripcord.  What a rush that is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 20, 2018, 02:51:46 PM
Is your phone OK?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 20, 2018, 03:04:22 PM
Is your phone OK?
Long story short: unlikely.

Phone was insured though and a new one is coming today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 22, 2018, 12:46:42 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article217136730.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article217136730.html)

Quote
A firm that staffs Westport’s security team announced Wednesday it had fired Michael Dargy Jr., the off-duty public safety officer who allegedly ordered a “Trayvon Martini” from a black bartender

yeah you can't do that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on August 22, 2018, 06:09:37 PM
which demographic of DJamer can he ask to crank the "jon-benet jamsies"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 25, 2018, 09:31:11 AM
Anyone ever been to Irish fest? Trying to plan something for my birthday next Sunday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on August 25, 2018, 09:45:28 AM
Anyone ever been to Irish fest? Trying to plan something for my birthday next Sunday.

Do better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 25, 2018, 10:04:13 AM
Well ya, this is literally the only year we haven’t made plans for my birthday. 34 is definitely a lol wgaf birthday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on August 25, 2018, 10:24:00 AM
Beer Kitchen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 25, 2018, 10:41:52 AM
You couldn’t handle beer kitchen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 25, 2018, 10:48:20 AM
You should be coming back from a good first win by the KSU fighting wild wildcats that day so idk if you could top your Saturday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 25, 2018, 10:53:50 AM
I’ve got the hookup for the miss st game. Gonna eat steaks with the fam and stream the game for week 1. We’ve been to LA the last couple of years during this time. Looking for something low key for my age. :Rusty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 26, 2018, 09:29:35 AM
https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/1033711672291147782
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 26, 2018, 12:01:25 PM
Irish fest blows
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 26, 2018, 01:18:45 PM
the boulevard margarita's is still being remodeled, they said sometime in september

shake shack's opening is eminent (domain?)

imminent.  went by this weekend and it looks like they could open in seconds.

Already open right down the road.   :gocho:
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on August 26, 2018, 04:58:29 PM
Anyone ever been to Irish fest? Trying to plan something for my birthday next Sunday.

Yes when I was in high school. Saw a couple go down on each other in the crowd during flogging molly. Pretty wacky stuff.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2018, 05:29:59 PM
:horrorsurprise:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2018, 06:30:49 PM
Irish fest blows
Thanks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 27, 2018, 09:02:15 AM
Yesterday was a perfect Sunday Funday in the OP, guys. Started off mowing the lawn, then I watched some golf and Deadpool 2, took the Mrs. to Top Golf and crushed some suds. Then we went to La Bodega for some tasty Sangrias and ended the day with drinks on our patio while smashing some Grinders Pizza (Pepperoni and feta chz). It really doesn't get more OP than that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 27, 2018, 09:40:24 AM
Wrong thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 27, 2018, 09:41:54 AM
 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 27, 2018, 09:42:43 AM
I don't understand how people exist without a pool or going to a local lake when it is this hot.  I'd go off the rails
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2018, 10:47:25 AM
I don't understand how people exist without a pool or going to a local lake when it is this hot.  I'd go off the rails

i just keep the ac running and enjoy the crap out of a 10 hour overwatch session.  no rails needed to go off of.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 27, 2018, 12:03:59 PM
:confused:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg1527407#msg1527407
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2018, 05:55:34 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/shake-shack-sets-date-for-opening-of-kc-store-announces-locally-inspired-menu-items

9/6 @ 11 am
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 27, 2018, 05:59:30 PM
I'll be there around 9pm on 9/7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 27, 2018, 06:58:08 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/shake-shack-sets-date-for-opening-of-kc-store-announces-locally-inspired-menu-items

9/6 @ 11 am
Probably be a line not seen since the opening of the MHK Olive Garden
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2018, 07:10:40 PM
 sorry line but I already got the app on my phone waiting to circumvent you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 27, 2018, 08:21:59 PM
Krispy Kreme on Metcalf was a crap show when it first opened years ago.  Was pretty LOL.  I also remember when the first Winsteads opened in Topeka, man that was something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2018, 03:09:47 PM
https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1035256571717189632
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 30, 2018, 05:54:02 PM
A true abomination
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2018, 06:49:27 PM
Pfftt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on August 30, 2018, 07:00:00 PM
Hopping on that 8man train. Yuck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2018, 07:01:50 PM
Some ppl can’t handle heat. Smdh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 30, 2018, 08:01:08 PM
That's kc BBQ for you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2018, 08:02:47 PM
#1 in the world? :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2018, 10:09:10 PM
That's kc BBQ for you

No!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2018, 08:38:21 AM
It's practically a z man and people are saying it's gross.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 31, 2018, 08:39:12 AM
It's practically a z man and people are saying it's gross.  :lol:
Also gross
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2018, 08:55:00 AM
It's like nationally popular. It's the #1 ticket item at the #1 bbq place in the world.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 31, 2018, 09:02:51 AM
There are a ton of terrible things that are popular.  KC Masterpiece sauce is the most nationally popular "Kansas City" BBQ sauce even though it is hot garbage..  Bud Light = most popular beer in the world.  Pizza Hut=most popular pizza place in the world.  If OK Joes had better than B+ barbecue they wouldn't be slathering it with cheese and deep fried crap.

Also, lol at OK Joe's being the #1 bbq place in the world.  Aaron Franklin would like a word.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 31, 2018, 09:02:58 AM
Fine sandwich... I get it often.... Not BBQ. BBQ does not include cheese on meat.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2018, 09:07:02 AM
I would try Franklin's once they don't have a 4 hour wait. No food is worth that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 31, 2018, 10:28:26 AM
When people ask me about what a good example of kc BBQ is I tell them to get kc masterpiece.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2018, 10:29:04 AM
Oh look, guys, chings isn't impressed with kc bbq. Shocking!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 31, 2018, 10:30:34 AM
Cook some meat poorly and then slather it sugar sauce.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 31, 2018, 10:31:06 AM
Is we're getting real KC then your cover it in cheese whiz.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 31, 2018, 10:33:38 AM
Illinois bbq is where it really is!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 31, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
No it's not very good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 31, 2018, 10:42:33 AM
Is we're getting real KC then your cover it in cheese whiz.
it’s an incredible seasoning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 31, 2018, 11:49:20 AM
No it's not very good.
Blackdog is very very good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 31, 2018, 12:01:00 PM
No it's not very good.
Blackdog is very very good.
Hey hey mama!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 31, 2018, 12:02:20 PM
No it's not very good.
Blackdog is very very good.
That's Texas BBQ
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 31, 2018, 01:49:24 PM
No it's not very good.
Blackdog is very very good.
That's Texas BBQ
But IN Illinois.  It counts imo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 03, 2018, 06:12:07 PM
https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/1036752207515987973
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 03, 2018, 06:43:45 PM
You can get A+ bbq, better than anything in Illinois, wandering around any one of those competitive bbq fests. Bitching about putting sauce on bbq is about the dumbest slam in the history of the universe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 08:51:06 AM
You can get A+ bbq, better than anything in Illinois, wandering around any one of those competitive bbq fests. Bitching about putting sauce on bbq is about the dumbest slam in the history of the universe.
Millenials think they know food better, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 04, 2018, 10:17:48 AM
You're a millennial wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 10:19:16 AM
I'm not a hipster millenial that acts like they are the first ones to discover food. I'm a boot strapper millenial.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
There's definitely two different age group millenials.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 04, 2018, 03:45:21 PM
There's definitely two different age groupillenials.

There’s a word for that and it’s different generations.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 03:46:25 PM
No crap?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 04, 2018, 03:49:03 PM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on September 04, 2018, 04:10:49 PM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
In River Market?  I went there earlier this summer.  It's no Jose Peppers, but I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 04, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?

Only been for lunch a couple times but haven't found anything I really like.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 04, 2018, 04:54:59 PM
There's definitely two different age groupillenials.

There’s a word for that and it’s different generations.

Millennial is a single generation dc cat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 04, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
There's definitely two different age groupillenials.

There’s a word for that and it’s different generations.

Millennial is a single generation dc cat

Yes, I’m aware, Wacky was saying there are two different age groups for millennials.  There’s not, that’s called a generation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 04:57:40 PM
I didn't say that at all, dummy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 04, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
There are absolutely different age sub-groups within generations.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 04:59:20 PM
I don't consider a 34 year old what's thought of as a classic millenial by today's society. That's what I was saying. When I think of millenial stuff, I think mocat. Wannabe hipsters who talk down to everyone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on September 04, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
I think what Wacky was expressing is that he doesn't like being individually judged based on group stereotypes about a group he is technically a member of. You'll never catch Wacky making blanket assertions about an entire generation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 05:00:23 PM
I think what Wacky was expressing is that he doesn't like being individually judged based on group stereotypes about a group he is technically a member of. You'll never catch Wacky making blanket assertions about an entire generation.
:lol: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 04, 2018, 05:01:32 PM
I didn't say that at all, dummy.

You said and I quote:

There's definitely two different age group millenials.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 05:03:29 PM
Read what I just posted above, tbt. It’s not that hard to wrap your head around what I was trying to say.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 04, 2018, 05:05:33 PM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
In River Market?  I went there earlier this summer.  It's no Jose Peppers, but I really enjoyed it.

Thanks Dlew.  We should meet up there some time and crush margs like bosses.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 04, 2018, 05:07:03 PM
Read what I just posted above, tbt. It’s not that hard to wrap your head around what I was trying to say.


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You’d be surprised how hard it is sometimes. In this instance I knew but there are hipsters that are old and ones that are young. There isn’t just some age subset that only has them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 04, 2018, 05:14:35 PM
I don't consider a 34 year old what's thought of as a classic millenial by today's society. That's what I was saying. When I think of millenial stuff, I think mocat. Wannabe hipsters who talk down to everyone.

The "classic" millennial stereotype is grossly inaccurate... Most are just as you are describing yourself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2018, 06:36:47 PM
Thanks guys for breaking down millennials for me. Real game changing stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 04, 2018, 06:53:27 PM
Thanks guys for breaking down millennials for me. Real game changing stuff.

Let's remind ourselves what started this mensa convo

Millenials think they know food better, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on September 04, 2018, 07:14:14 PM
millenials love most:
1. talking smack on millenials and trying to differentiate themselves from millenials
2. brunch
3.
4. memes?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 04, 2018, 07:25:08 PM
3 is being individuals
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 04, 2018, 07:25:56 PM
3 is being individuals

I guess that's part of 1. Nvm punisan
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on September 04, 2018, 09:52:18 PM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
In River Market?  I went there earlier this summer.  It's no Jose Peppers, but I really enjoyed it.

Thanks Dlew.  We should meet up there some time and crush margs like bosses.
Let’s dip out of the office at lunch and get shitfaced one of these fridays before it gets too cold
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 04, 2018, 09:57:42 PM
I don't consider a 34 year old what's thought of as a classic millenial by today's society. That's what I was saying. When I think of millenial stuff, I think mocat. Wannabe hipsters who talk down to everyone.
Mocat is like 32, you are the same generation.  The Millennial generation.  I think when you are talking about these "wannabe hipsters" aka "millennials", you actually mean city residents + people you don't like.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 04, 2018, 10:10:44 PM
I don't consider a 34 year old what's thought of as a classic millenial by today's society. That's what I was saying. When I think of millenial stuff, I think mocat. Wannabe hipsters who talk down to everyone.
Mocat is like 32, you are the same generation.  The Millennial generation.  I think when you are talking about these "wannabe hipsters" aka "millennials", you actually mean city residents + people you don't like.

(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/talking-to-a-brick-wall-gif-9.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 04, 2018, 11:18:44 PM
The terms hipster and millennial often get conflated, and the terms tool bag, loser or dead beat already suffice.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 04, 2018, 11:21:32 PM
Look at me, I spend all my discretionary income pissing off wait staff and stuffing my fat unshaven face with mayonnaise covered sandwiches and souling my free t-shirt

^^^^^
Just a loser, dead beat and/or tool, no need to interject millennial or hipster
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 04, 2018, 11:23:26 PM
I don't have any assets, but I want you to know I think owning assets is distasteful to me and I'm going to make a scene about it

^^^^^
run of the mill loser. Nothing new here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 05, 2018, 08:12:24 AM
I don't consider a 34 year old what's thought of as a classic millenial by today's society. That's what I was saying. When I think of millenial stuff, I think mocat. Wannabe hipsters who talk down to everyone.
Mocat is like 32, you are the same generation.  The Millennial generation.  I think when you are talking about these "wannabe hipsters" aka "millennials", you actually mean city residents + people you don't like.

(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/talking-to-a-brick-wall-gif-9.gif)
You're getting weird again, TBT. Might be time to change your handle again.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 05, 2018, 08:13:52 AM
I don't consider a 34 year old what's thought of as a classic millenial by today's society. That's what I was saying. When I think of millenial stuff, I think mocat. Wannabe hipsters who talk down to everyone.
Mocat is like 32, you are the same generation.  The Millennial generation.  I think when you are talking about these "wannabe hipsters" aka "millennials", you actually mean city residents + people you don't like.

(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/talking-to-a-brick-wall-gif-9.gif)
You're getting weird again, TBT. Might be time to change your handle again.

I don’t see how it’s my problem you don’t understand.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 05, 2018, 08:16:31 AM
I understand fine, TBT. You following me around like a puppy dog and hijacking threads is not what's fine. Get over yourself.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 05, 2018, 08:56:11 AM
:lol: ok
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 05, 2018, 09:03:39 AM
Mods, can we get this dc nerd to stop mucking up the kc thread?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 05, 2018, 09:05:18 AM
https://twitter.com/JoyceKC/status/1037325418687283200
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 05, 2018, 10:49:03 AM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
In River Market?  I went there earlier this summer.  It's no Jose Peppers, but I really enjoyed it.

Thanks Dlew.  We should meet up there some time and crush margs like bosses.
Let’s dip out of the office at lunch and get shitfaced one of these fridays before it gets too cold

and just like that 2 of the gE power players set up a pak
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 07, 2018, 02:38:04 PM
Stone Bird Pro-Tip: go to "safety" under the app and order a free helmet.

YW
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 10, 2018, 03:57:18 PM
https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1035256571717189632
This was really good, guys. Messy AF, but really good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 11, 2018, 01:37:25 PM
https://twitter.com/bturque/status/1039575809411960832
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 11, 2018, 01:53:58 PM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 11, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Woot woot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 11, 2018, 02:46:36 PM
$300m is pennies compared to the amount of money that this pup is going to bring in.  nothing can stop the streetcar's success, not even amazon.com 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 12, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
are limes just kroger birds?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 12, 2018, 08:12:59 AM
More like the Pepsi of birds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 12, 2018, 08:31:12 AM
Limes look cooler and have a speedometer.... Haven't ridden one yet to know the ride difference but has a bigger platform so would seem nice to ride with adult man feet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 12, 2018, 09:19:45 AM
adult men don't ride these things, sorry bub
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 12, 2018, 09:25:54 AM
adult men don't ride these things, sorry bub

overwhelming data suggests otherwise
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 12, 2018, 09:43:09 AM
whatever makes you feel better about yourself
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 12, 2018, 09:46:21 AM
whatever makes you feel better about yourself

i have never been on one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 12, 2018, 09:51:15 AM
whatever makes you feel better about yourself

i have never been on one

what does that say about you?  not a real man?  hmmm...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 12, 2018, 09:53:29 AM
Saw tons of what appeared to be grown men riding them in LA last week
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 12, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
Saw tons of what appeared to be grown men riding them in LA last week

oxymoron much?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 12, 2018, 10:27:45 AM
First time in Southern California, I can’t distinguish the reals from the fakes clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on September 12, 2018, 10:34:15 AM
I can’t distinguish the reals from the fakes clams.
and you think that crap flies?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 12, 2018, 10:57:45 AM
I can’t distinguish the reals from the fakes clams.
and you think that crap flies?

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on September 13, 2018, 02:27:13 PM
https://twitter.com/bturque/status/1040259056286490624
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 13, 2018, 02:40:08 PM
https://twitter.com/bturque/status/1040259056286490624

In-A-Tub is amazing, I love it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 13, 2018, 02:51:20 PM
i did not know "northland kc" had a different mayor  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2018, 03:05:10 PM
https://twitter.com/bturque/status/1040259056286490624

In-A-Tub is amazing, I love it

vastly overrated by tourists from the coasts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2018, 03:35:10 PM
never eaten at in-a-tub strictly because the name is so wtf to me and i think i've only driven by it maybe once or twice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2018, 03:40:56 PM
Looks sketch AF from the outside of it. No thanks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2018, 04:35:25 PM
it’s just a tourist trap
oh look they use powdered cheese on the tacos! gmafb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2018, 07:12:38 PM
Looks sketch AF from the outside of it. No thanks.

You are missing out on a lot of delish food with this approach.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 13, 2018, 10:30:49 PM
I was at Caddy Shack most of the time during Royals post season away games. I get hole in the wall bars, but not fast food. Eff that!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 13, 2018, 11:14:36 PM
https://twitter.com/bturque/status/1040259056286490624

In-A-Tub is amazing, I love it

vastly overrated by tourists from the coasts

It's terrible, but is what passes for culture in the northland (also terrible)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 13, 2018, 11:48:23 PM
Hating on the northland is one of my most fave intriguing Kansas city things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2018, 12:12:38 AM
Hating on anything KC  related is one of my most fave intriguing Kansas city things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2018, 12:33:57 AM
You are better than Dax shtick. .. Yet really bad at doing a Dax shtick.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 14, 2018, 08:27:30 AM
one day i will both have time and be in the mood to stop at In a Tub on the way home from the airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 14, 2018, 10:30:09 AM
Its not awful, you should try it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on September 17, 2018, 01:33:58 PM
If one was to meet a buddy for a couple of drafts at Double Shift, what would be the other recommended drink stops in the area? Will need to grab dinner too.

Friday before UT game if you're in the area.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on September 17, 2018, 02:08:53 PM
If one was to meet a buddy for a couple of drafts at Double Shift, what would be the other recommended drink stops in the area? Will need to grab dinner too.

Friday before UT game if you're in the area.
Antons, grinders, Emperial, Tom's town, and Nara are all spots i've been to and like in that area (easily walkable from doubleshift). 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2018, 02:20:51 PM
there are 5 breweries, 2 distilleries, and like a million bars/restaurants in the xroads, ipa4me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2018, 02:23:04 PM
Ruins pub
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 17, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
one day i will both have time and be in the mood to stop at In a Tub on the way home from the airport

I've never had anything quite like it anywhere. totally worth it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on September 17, 2018, 02:33:13 PM
there are 5 breweries, 2 distilleries, and like a million bars/restaurants in the xroads, ipa4me
That's a lot of drinking for one night!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2018, 02:38:26 PM
Ruins pub

Beer only
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2018, 02:39:35 PM
If one was to meet a buddy for a couple of drafts at Double Shift, what would be the other recommended drink stops in the area? Will need to grab dinner too.

Friday before UT game if you're in the area.

Mission taco, grinders, or emperial for food.

Parlor also opens Friday and should be a good food stop.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2018, 02:49:08 PM
Ruins pub

Beer only

No it's not
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2018, 03:11:57 PM
Ruins pub

Beer only

No it's not

Go there for the beer only. The rest of that place is nasty.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2018, 03:17:01 PM
wut
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2018, 03:23:43 PM
Delish mini corn dogs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2018, 03:32:25 PM
Delish mini corn dogs

https://www.target.com/p/mini-corn-dogs-48ct-market-pantry-153/-/A-14799161
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2018, 03:59:32 PM
If one was to meet a buddy for a couple of drafts at Double Shift, what would be the other recommended drink stops in the area? Will need to grab dinner too.

Friday before UT game if you're in the area.



the jacobson isn't great but it's probably where i'd go if i were you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2018, 04:03:58 PM
Delish mini corn dogs

https://www.target.com/p/mini-corn-dogs-48ct-market-pantry-153/-/A-14799161

You probably prefer private selection frozen patties to shake shack too smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2018, 04:20:43 PM
Delish mini corn dogs

https://www.target.com/p/mini-corn-dogs-48ct-market-pantry-153/-/A-14799161

You probably prefer private selection frozen patties to shake shack too smdh

Yo bros... Let's hit up Ruins... Their sysco spin dip is on point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2018, 04:22:11 PM
I don't think you've actually been there, and that's OK!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2018, 04:46:51 PM
I don't think you've actually been there, and that's OK!

Never invited  :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on September 17, 2018, 08:02:10 PM
If one was to meet a buddy for a couple of drafts at Double Shift, what would be the other recommended drink stops in the area? Will need to grab dinner too.

Friday before UT game if you're in the area.



the jacobson isn't great but it's probably where i'd go if i were you
Decent reviews. How's the $15 burger?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on September 17, 2018, 08:03:42 PM
Thanks guys. Will make for a good evening with my college bud.
If one was to meet a buddy for a couple of drafts at Double Shift, what would be the other recommended drink stops in the area? Will need to grab dinner too.

Friday before UT game if you're in the area.
Antons, grinders, Emperial, Tom's town, and Nara are all spots i've been to and like in that area (easily walkable from doubleshift).
Ruins pub
If one was to meet a buddy for a couple of drafts at Double Shift, what would be the other recommended drink stops in the area? Will need to grab dinner too.

Friday before UT game if you're in the area.

Mission taco, grinders, or emperial for food.

Parlor also opens Friday and should be a good food stop.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2018, 09:27:37 PM
Emperial burger is better... And it's a brewery.... Jacobson is pretty meh... Their brunch is okay.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 17, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
Hating on the northland is one of my most fave intriguing Kansas city things.

Things that don't suck balls in the northland:
Red-X
Trezo mare
Casinos

That's it, everything else sucks balls and taints (unless you're a mini golf officianado)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 17, 2018, 09:41:44 PM
I feel like a lot of you guys would really enjoy the food at the state fair.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 18, 2018, 08:41:56 AM
people actually go to Ruins?  hey, let's pay $6 for 3 ounces of beer and 4 ounces of foam!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Catosaurus on September 18, 2018, 09:42:52 AM
people actually go to Ruins?  hey, let's pay $6 for 3 ounces of beer and 4 ounces of foam!

Maybe learn how to pour a beer?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on September 19, 2018, 09:12:13 PM
(https://d1arsn5g9mfrlq.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/2018050b.jpg)

https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2018-north-america-airport-satisfaction-study
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 19, 2018, 09:16:54 PM
Lulz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 19, 2018, 09:20:36 PM
About average ftw
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 19, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
Where’s Wichita?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on September 19, 2018, 09:23:15 PM
Indianapolis scored a 811 among medium airports. Isn't that what they modeled KCI 2.0 off of?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 19, 2018, 09:56:45 PM
McCarran is a dump
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 19, 2018, 10:03:44 PM
Indy is a huge dump
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 19, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
McCarran is a dump

the non-SW terminal isn't bad but holy crap the SW terminal is woof city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on September 19, 2018, 10:16:59 PM
Indy is a huge dump

Not according to J.D. Power.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 20, 2018, 07:11:07 AM
McCarran is a dump

the non-SW terminal isn't bad but holy crap the SW terminal is woof city

Here’s some broken slots and a shitty burrito place, have fun!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2018, 07:37:11 AM
Indianapolis scored a 811 among medium airports. Isn't that what they modeled KCI 2.0 off of?

It is mentioned among a few of the newer airports in cities our size to look to for new designs.... Theirs is around the same number of gates. Shaped more like a U vs H for kci 2.0
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 20, 2018, 07:48:55 AM
omg just looked at the mega rankings. LOL at mco being at the top, omg. just an enormous LOL at that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 20, 2018, 07:52:48 AM
does the D in JD power stand for disney? would make sense if so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 20, 2018, 09:05:53 AM
we're worse than Philly  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 20, 2018, 09:06:15 AM
Philly is rough ridin' terrible, my god :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 20, 2018, 10:00:20 AM
hopefully after we spend $1.5B over the next 40 years we can reach midway status
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on September 20, 2018, 10:10:50 AM
Should take the money and be the first hub for those tunnel train things Elon is building
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 20, 2018, 10:16:59 AM
also EWR's United termy is pretty nice now. :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 20, 2018, 05:45:42 PM
Philly is rough ridin' terrible, my god :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have flown out of Philly at least 100 times.  Probably closer to 200, but I never kept track.  Anyway, it is very rare that I do NOT sit on that rough ridin' runway waiting.  I hate that about Philly.

However, the interior and amenities inside of the Philly airport are quite good, and the shuttle to the rental cars is quick....though obviously airports with rental car places attached the airport are the best.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on September 20, 2018, 05:48:34 PM
What's the story on getting to rental cars at MCI? Pretty easy?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 20, 2018, 05:50:59 PM
Also, if you want to improve your experience in Philly, go through security in the "international" terminal.  Shorter lines, and still attached to the main terminal.  Pro move.   :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 20, 2018, 06:43:18 PM
What's the story on getting to rental cars at MCI? Pretty easy?


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much easier to just rent an Appaloosa in this hayseed town. giddy-up, cowboy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 20, 2018, 08:36:33 PM
What's the story on getting to rental cars at MCI? Pretty easy?


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Centralized setup a bus ride away...new terminal there is talk about putting some rental cars in the new garage attached to the termy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 20, 2018, 10:04:50 PM
I have never once rented a car at MCI or even been to the rental area.  Don’t even know where it is!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2018, 12:00:15 AM
I have never once rented a car at MCI or even been to the rental area.  Don’t even know where it is!
It's the most absurdly large waste of space and "art" I've ever seen. Seriously the strangest car rental building I've ever been too. Looks super clean and brand new though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2018, 12:03:05 AM
I have never once rented a car at MCI or even been to the rental area.  Don’t even know where it is!
It's the most absurdly large waste of space and "art" I've ever seen. Seriously the strangest car rental building I've ever been too. Looks super clean and brand new though.
Yeah the Yelp page has some good photos:

https://yelp.to/qTKq/1SLblZyRnQ

Like you have to take an escalator to get to the giant hall with the river map floor. WHY
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2018, 12:19:29 AM
Oh wow, that is really odd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2018, 06:57:01 AM
Weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on September 21, 2018, 02:27:34 PM
Grateful KC airport user!

https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1043216087985336321
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
He is in the one gate area with a pet relief AND milking room... It's like the Taj of kci gates.... I'd be grateful too!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 26, 2018, 07:50:40 AM
Olathe is the perfect location

 :lol:

https://twitter.com/JoyceKC/status/1044616760924819460
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 26, 2018, 08:13:38 AM
Attaching it to a grocery store is the best.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2018, 08:48:15 AM
Yikes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2018, 09:11:32 AM
such a plebeian hamburger, it fits perfect in olathe.  meanwhile, kc's top tier is mowing down shake shack burgs on the daily.

btw, shake shack's spicy chicken sandwich is great fwiw, just don't get the slaw on it or pickles tbh smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on September 26, 2018, 09:23:04 AM
i was wondering about that sammy.  thanks for the hot tips, brett.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
i was wondering about that sammy.  thanks for the hot tips, brett.

i had it saturday.  and again on sunday.  both times i enjoyed it.  thoughts?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on September 26, 2018, 01:14:09 PM
i was wondering about that sammy.  thanks for the hot tips, brett.

i had it saturday.  and again on sunday.  both times i enjoyed it.  thoughts?
definitely some data points i've put into the algo.  the data is being processed now.  early returns: inconclusive.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2018, 06:21:11 PM
Imagine hating the Wahlburgs :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on September 28, 2018, 11:56:18 PM
Thanks for the pro tips for the night. Had a blast. Need several more weekends to hit them all.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on October 02, 2018, 02:06:25 PM
https://twitter.com/st_vockrodt/status/1047190537340637186

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 02, 2018, 02:13:00 PM
ptsd & depression
i wonder if jolie will reignite her campaign, otherwise, kc politics just got a lot more kc politicy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 02, 2018, 04:47:43 PM
crazy....he seemed so passionate for becoming mayor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2018, 04:17:41 PM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/1050856491392094213
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 15, 2018, 12:29:56 PM
Kcmo moves to #5 in murders per capita
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on October 15, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
Kcmo moves to #5 in murders per capita
Kiss our butts, Cleveland!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 15, 2018, 12:51:05 PM
Missouri with #1 and #5, yeesh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 15, 2018, 12:59:14 PM
thanks again jc nichols
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 15, 2018, 01:05:58 PM
at least we have a streetcar powerful enough to plow through the bodies littering our city's streets
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 15, 2018, 01:06:14 PM
What a trash state
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 15, 2018, 01:10:58 PM
It really is a very gross state
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 15, 2018, 01:12:42 PM
seriously, there's nothing a mayor or city council can do about violent crime.  i wish you guys would just shut the hell up about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 15, 2018, 02:09:43 PM
0 murders on or by the streetcar.... I. Don't see what the problem is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 15, 2018, 03:08:59 PM
i wonder if we could talk the hyatt developers into switching their hotel idea into a morgue instead
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: deputy dawg on October 15, 2018, 03:24:33 PM
i wonder if we could talk the hyatt developers into switching their hotel idea into a morgue instead

I think they tried that in 1981 under the guise of a tea dance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 15, 2018, 03:39:12 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 15, 2018, 05:34:54 PM
I am surprised BHAM isn't on that list.   It's just  :cry: to turn on the local news in the morning. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 16, 2018, 12:36:13 PM
https://twitter.com/stevendialtv/status/1052242287969914881?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 16, 2018, 12:38:24 PM
shake shack crime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 16, 2018, 12:42:32 PM
This is why I prefer my burgers from the restaurant inside the grocery store
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 16, 2018, 12:45:28 PM
This is why I prefer my burgers from the restaurant inside the grocery store

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on October 16, 2018, 12:47:44 PM
Oh Jesus, someone better warm up some tendies..
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 16, 2018, 01:12:33 PM
KCMO. Sad.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 16, 2018, 01:33:43 PM
https://twitter.com/stevendialtv/status/1052242287969914881?s=21

i was there!

felt pretty great to have my hood on lockdown.   my shack pick up time was 12:45 but i got there early.

DID NOT GET SHOT and neither did our shiny streetcar thx 2 GOD.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 16, 2018, 01:36:10 PM
Happy to hear your safe.  :cheers: I just saw the new update about the lock down.

https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1052264805904601088
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 16, 2018, 01:45:14 PM
How do we know for sure that 'clams is not the real suspect?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 16, 2018, 01:47:22 PM
hope no one wanted anything from the Cup for dinner.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 16, 2018, 01:50:41 PM
Someone probably got bumped due to the patio blocking 90 percent of the sidewalk and got mad and since everybody has to have a gun.... Boom

Having second thoughts about the streetcar connecting to these scary midtown neighborhoods.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 16, 2018, 01:52:47 PM
they cancelled my mobile order and i was very angry, obviously.  i was sitting in my car outside the apple store.  no blood, no foul, imo.  so where's my spicy chicken sandwich?

police had 47th from roanoke to central wyandotte closed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 16, 2018, 02:15:08 PM
I'd send a pain and suffering bill to slyin office
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on October 16, 2018, 03:26:50 PM
happy to hear clams is safe.  i've been worried sick.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on October 16, 2018, 07:16:01 PM
happy to hear clams is safe.  i've been worried sick.

Not me.  Clams is the Davy Crockett of West Plaza. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 17, 2018, 10:28:47 AM
https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/1052349233653800961?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 17, 2018, 10:30:19 AM
KC police are too busy trying to chase down ppl for DUI's/speeding tickets to hit quota vs do anything in the community. Sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 17, 2018, 10:42:32 AM
Maybe in the suburbs. From what I remember of dui stats, kcpd gives out like 2 a day on average. Getting a dui in kcmo is like getting struck by lightning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 17, 2018, 10:46:01 AM
Link? How tf is there so many DUI/traffic lawyers in this city then?  :confused: Either way, they're pretty shitty at preventing murder.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2018, 10:46:23 AM
Maybe in the suburbs. From what I remember of dui stats, kcpd gives out like 2 a day on average. Getting a dui in kcmo is like getting struck by lightning

for reference, wacky once tweeted at sly james complaining about construction in joco
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 17, 2018, 10:49:15 AM
This is false and I proven it to be false, but keep making things up like fsd, champ. DON'T TALK BAD ON MISSOURI!!!- Mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 17, 2018, 10:50:43 AM
Remember when you tweeted out that KC Chiefs fans suck because they don't have some Marcus Peters poster like some rando Rams fan did who had a bunch of Steelers crap in the back of his man cave?  :lol: You rough ridin' dunce.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mhkpasa on October 17, 2018, 10:53:41 AM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 17, 2018, 10:56:24 AM
Link? How tf is there so many DUI/traffic lawyers in this city then?  :confused: Either way, they're pretty shitty at preventing murder.

Joco gives them out like candy.

As far as speeding, again, the bored joco police are total nazis on this as well. I do think recently kcmo announced that they were putting more emphasis on traffic violations after several years of record low citations.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 17, 2018, 10:57:08 AM
happy to hear clams is safe.  i've been worried sick.

Not me.  Clams is the Davy Crockett of West Plaza.

Yeah clams is a protected man.  There could be a mass shooter loose on the plaza and he would look at clams like the cop looks at Affleck in his nun mask and simply turn away
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 17, 2018, 11:28:25 AM
https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/1052349233653800961?s=19
So lowest per capital number of cops on that list... Probably need to hire some more
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 17, 2018, 11:59:19 AM
Seems logical to me. 8man....ive been in search of this data for awhile.

The retirement pension of the PD I know is a big drain on the budget.... That doesn't seem like thst would be unique to kc though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 17, 2018, 12:12:07 PM
Sly just said the other day that hiring more cops isn't the answer because they wouldn't be properly trained or something
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 17, 2018, 12:15:13 PM
KCs crime problem wouldn't be fixed with double the officers on the street IMO....but seems we should be more in line with other cities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on October 17, 2018, 12:20:04 PM
Need to find the billy beane of policing. Someone who can do more with less and find some overlooked detectives and officers for a bargain.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 17, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
KCs crime problem wouldn't be fixed with double the officers on the street IMO....but seems we should be more in line with other cities.

Yes, it would.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 17, 2018, 02:01:22 PM
KCs crime problem wouldn't be fixed with double the officers on the street IMO....but seems we should be more in line with other cities.

Yes, it would.

Trumpwrong.gif
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 17, 2018, 02:07:26 PM
Caught a movie on the plaza last night.  It was tranquil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on October 17, 2018, 02:39:34 PM
Caught a movie on the plaza last night.  It was tranquil
Star is Born?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 17, 2018, 04:18:19 PM
Caught a movie on the plaza last night.  It was tranquil

enjoy it while it lasts, cinemark will be closed soon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 17, 2018, 04:20:30 PM
Caught a movie on the plaza last night.  It was tranquil
Star is Born?

Not while Gosling is playing an astronaut in studio 8 bro
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on October 17, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
Caught a movie on the plaza last night.  It was tranquil
Star is Born?

Not while Gosling is playing an astronaut in studio 8 bro
Gos, Brad Cooper, Gaga. 

It's a cavalcade of great stars at the movie theater these days!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 17, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
matthew mcconaughey too, but that movie kinda blew.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 18, 2018, 10:20:20 AM
I have 2 words for you guys:

HYPER
LOOP
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on October 18, 2018, 10:28:43 AM
Is that some kind of new drug the ultra wealthy are using these days?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 18, 2018, 10:46:09 AM
Can we put all the trucks in this tube? Instant i70 improvement
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 10:52:05 AM
Do a lot of ppl like to go to St. Louis from KC?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 18, 2018, 11:02:53 AM
Do a lot of ppl like to go to St. Louis from KC?

I fly there at least twice a month
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 11:04:33 AM
Didn't even consider the business side of things. Carry on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on October 18, 2018, 11:14:47 AM
I've been there probably 4 times in the last year.  Weddings, concerts, work and so forth.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on October 18, 2018, 11:17:06 AM
Where are they proposing the stations to be?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2018, 11:17:36 AM
I haven't been to st Louis since Dec 1998  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 11:24:08 AM
Where are they proposing the stations to be?
I would start them in the river market or something like that.  :dunno: Maybe the west bottoms?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2018, 11:26:35 AM
yeah i agree they should definitely not put it at union station
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on October 18, 2018, 11:27:35 AM
Can we put all the trucks in this tube? Instant i70 improvement
Would be great if Missouri would add a third lane to interstates outside the metro areas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 11:28:11 AM
yeah i agree they should definitely not put it at union station
Well, I would put it somewhere with the capability of having a crap ton of parking, chief.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2018, 11:30:09 AM
yeah i agree they should definitely not put it at union station
Well, I would put it somewhere with the capability of having a crap ton of parking, chief.

that's a great point wacks, i wonder if union station has an enormous parking garage or not, but that's probably a question for a different day
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 11:41:57 AM
“Next time the KCMO Water Dept demands a rate increase, reference this particular water leak at the “newly restored water main“ 85th and Wornall location. I reported it two days ago yet it continues to pump out thousands of gallons of wasted water...”(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181018/4feff1b0e46ba0c16a161bd4127c2465.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
what is going on with the quotation marks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 18, 2018, 01:09:55 PM
Do a lot of ppl like to go to St. Louis from KC?

Also, St. Louis is as trashy and losers as Wichita so I think the “hype-loo” (trademarked) would help people get out of
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
I hope their murderers don't figure out how to ride the hype-loo and start murdering kcians
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2018, 01:17:15 PM
They probably don't even know about the streetcar no murder zone, smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2018, 01:22:34 PM
“Next time the KCMO Water Dept demands a rate increase, reference this particular water leak at the “newly restored water main“ 85th and Wornall location. I reported it two days ago yet it continues to pump out thousands of gallons of wasted water...”(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181018/4feff1b0e46ba0c16a161bd4127c2465.jpg)


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that's right by max's, too close for comfort.  PLEASE BE SAFE MAX FAMILY   :runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 18, 2018, 01:31:57 PM
I want a hype-loo with Dlew pak
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2018, 01:44:35 PM
will there be a stop in como to get faced at shakespeare's or is this like an all or nothing type deal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on October 18, 2018, 01:53:06 PM
I want a hype-loo with Dlew pak
i hope hype-loo is booze friendly.  think there'll be a dining/booze car?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 18, 2018, 02:43:25 PM
I want a hype-loo with Dlew pak
i hope hype-loo is booze friendly.  think there'll be a dining/booze car?

I mean, how could they not?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 02:45:50 PM
Got PAK'd on one from Anaheim to San Diego once and it was a blast.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 18, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Got PAK'd on one from Anaheim to San Diego once and it was a blast.
On a hyperloop? Sure you did...

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 02:52:03 PM
Yeah, not sure what it was. Some train thingy, but still got PAK'd. In your face, Spracs!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 18, 2018, 02:58:00 PM
Since you're here, did u perhaps bring a sports almanac with you?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 18, 2018, 03:16:01 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2018, 03:17:20 PM
holy crap man  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 18, 2018, 03:28:33 PM
Can we go back to the water main thing? I’d guess that virtually all rate increases are for infrastructure upgrades, so maybe you should reference that and vote yes?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 18, 2018, 03:31:32 PM
Guys I think clams is right about the plaza theater. I went and it was mildewy smelly and seemed to be falling apart. They've already thrown in the towel.  :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 19, 2018, 11:41:11 AM
Guys I think clams is right about the plaza theater. I went and it was mildewy smelly and seemed to be falling apart. They've already thrown in the towel.  :cry:

It was not good.  Getting rid of the mcdonalds killed it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 19, 2018, 11:58:35 AM
https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1053324982749671424
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2018, 12:01:23 PM
We call that "the mocat maneuver"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on October 19, 2018, 12:10:23 PM
gonna have to get over to parlor sometime.  could be the spot for the quad P, stone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2018, 12:41:35 PM
We call that "the mocat maneuver"

fatal flaw is my guy quinton put the key in the ignition  :nono:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on October 19, 2018, 12:52:20 PM
https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1053342523723259904
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 19, 2018, 01:02:26 PM
We call that "the mocat maneuver"

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2018, 01:35:32 PM
KC police are too busy trying to chase down ppl for DUI's/speeding tickets to hit quota vs do anything in the community. Sad.
:frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2018, 01:40:44 PM
He was arrested in Lawrence
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2018, 01:43:39 PM
He's running for KC Mayor tho, so I thought it was relevant. So so sorry.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 19, 2018, 01:56:45 PM
KC police are too busy trying to chase down ppl for DUI's/speeding tickets to hit quota vs do anything in the community. Sad.
:frown:

like i at least understand the joco/kcmo confusion but lawrence is like pretty clearly not in kcmo bud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 19, 2018, 02:00:00 PM
There's no confusion. He's running for KC Mayor. It's relevant. Cops suck in general around here and it's well documented.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 19, 2018, 03:24:49 PM
Lol what? Lawrence cops are kc cops and it's relevant that cops suck because Q is running for mayor? Am I following that right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2018, 09:28:21 PM
Shooting at oak park mall, suspect at large, keep your head on a swivel wackycat08
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2018, 09:50:22 PM
Wtf? Seriously?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2018, 09:52:03 PM
Just locked all the doors. thanks bud
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 27, 2018, 10:46:28 AM
That's scary....sounds like everybody is okay...good news.

Stay safe kc metro.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 27, 2018, 10:58:07 AM
gonna have to get over to parlor sometime.  could be the spot for the quad P, stone.

yes I think that is a great idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 30, 2018, 08:10:02 PM
no one did the proper due diligence in the first place when costing this out.  we’re not seeing the price go up either and yes we will get nickel and dimed

what was the reason given when selecting edgemoor? cost management?

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/price-tag-for-new-kci-terminal-rises-to-nearly-2-billion

$2B and counting but who cares, it’s all free!  the airlines are paying for it!
it’s almost like this is exactly what I said was going to happen.

kcmo’s city government is inexperienced and inept and should never have been trusted with this amount of responsibility when the price tag was $800M, or whatever fake number slyin bullshittingly threw out there to garner support.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 30, 2018, 08:26:32 PM
no one did the proper due diligence in the first place when costing this out.  we’re not seeing the price go up either and yes we will get nickel and dimed

what was the reason given when selecting edgemoor? cost management?

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/price-tag-for-new-kci-terminal-rises-to-nearly-2-billion

$2B and counting but who cares, it’s all free!  the airlines are paying for it!
it’s almost like this is exactly what I said was going to happen.

kcmo’s city government is inexperienced and inept and should never have been trusted with this amount of responsibility when the price tag was $800M, or whatever fake number slyin bullshittingly threw out there to garner support.

Pretty bold prediction to say the cost would go up from 2015-dollar estimate without design work clams, proud of you..it's almost like nobody disagreed it would happen.....but at least more correct than your "the airport traffic can't continue to grow" prediction.

Platte county should have taken the airport by force!  I do hope a regional airport authority ends up taking responsibility of the airport...shouldn't be on KCMO's shoulders to approve bonds alone and the entire region flying public held to KCMO voters whims.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 30, 2018, 08:35:01 PM
$2B seems right for a new terminal given inflation and newly instituted tariffs....this city has for too long nickel and dimed its way in new infrastructure, can't wait to fly out of this sexy bitch  :driving: <- plane controls
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 30, 2018, 08:47:10 PM
:lol:

incredible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 30, 2018, 09:31:59 PM
Don't give up that easy, you got one right!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 31, 2018, 07:53:48 AM
wait so a new airport is expensive?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2018, 08:25:54 AM
I bet it gets more expensive  :shy:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2018, 08:39:21 AM
yeah the numbers are meaningless to me. we could wait until 2028 and it would be like $10B and make absolutely zero difference to any resident to kc in any way
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 09:45:20 AM
remember when you guys promised that the new terminal cost equal to or less than rehabbing the current one?  i wonder if you still feel that way.  i wonder how you knew that back then, since now your claim is to not have known anything.  it must be nice living the life of a complete dumbass.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 09:46:09 AM
yeah the numbers are meaningless to me. we could wait until 2028 and it would be like $10B and make absolutely zero difference to any resident to kc in any way

you post this as though you actually believe it, but i'm sure you don't because if you did then it would mean you're a rough ridin' idiot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 31, 2018, 09:54:44 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 31, 2018, 09:57:26 AM
remember when you guys promised that the new terminal cost equal to or less than rehabbing the current one?  i wonder if you still feel that way.  i wonder how you knew that back then, since now your claim is to not have known anything.  it must be nice living the life of a complete dumbass.

i never claimed this, fwiw
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2018, 09:58:59 AM
yeah the numbers are meaningless to me. we could wait until 2028 and it would be like $10B and make absolutely zero difference to any resident to kc in any way

you post this as though you actually believe it, but i'm sure you don't because if you did then it would mean you're a rough ridin' idiot

how would i notice the difference
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 10:02:25 AM
remember when you guys promised that the new terminal cost equal to or less than rehabbing the current one?  i wonder if you still feel that way.  i wonder how you knew that back then, since now your claim is to not have known anything.  it must be nice living the life of a complete dumbass.

i never claimed this, fwiw

they know who they are iirc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2018, 10:05:09 AM
'blast, i'm sure Phil did
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2018, 10:07:13 AM
clams do you think like a RT to lax will be like $7000 if we get a new airport?
do you think the 1% earnings tax will suddenly be like 40%?
do you think your $0.52 sales tax at shake shack will suddenly be like $6.72?
like help me out here m8, where am i going to feel it the most
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2018, 10:08:11 AM
I believe the discussion was c'lams not believing the reno would be $1B

Regardless, a renovation doesn't fix the biggest problems with mci, so it doesn't really matter how much it costs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2018, 10:09:14 AM
Phil also said the concrete was falling apart  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 10:14:34 AM
I believe the discussion was c'lams not believing the reno would be $1B

Regardless, a renovation doesn't fix the biggest problems with mci, so it doesn't really matter how much it costs.

are there rules around doing an airport renovation that only you know about?  because unlike our city government, i'm happy to admit that i'm no airport expert, but i'm quite sure that spending $1B on our current airport would fix mci's biggest problems, which apparently include a lack of bathrooms and no where for rainn wilson to shop at.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2018, 10:15:45 AM
do you think the 1% earnings tax will suddenly be like 40%?

i only threw this one in for wackycat since he thinks the city can take whatever they want out of your paycheck  :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Having 20 security checkpoints and terminals 4 miles apart are the biggest problems for future growth of the airport, the bathrooms and amenities are more easily addressed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
future growth?  the new terminal design has fewer gates than our current.  tell me more about our current design not being able to handle future growth as one of our current terminals sits shuttered (at the direction of slyin' hams).   i'm interested in hearing so much more from our resident airport gurus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 31, 2018, 10:43:23 AM
no one did the proper due diligence in the first place when costing this out.  we’re not seeing the price go up either and yes we will get nickel and dimed

what was the reason given when selecting edgemoor? cost management?

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/price-tag-for-new-kci-terminal-rises-to-nearly-2-billion

$2B and counting but who cares, it’s all free!  the airlines are paying for it!
it’s almost like this is exactly what I said was going to happen.

kcmo’s city government is inexperienced and inept and should never have been trusted with this amount of responsibility when the price tag was $800M, or whatever fake number slyin bullshittingly threw out there to garner support.

could be worse...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicans-vote-to-cancel-13-3-billion-mexico-city-airport-project-1540789177
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2018, 10:57:15 AM
wow i can't believe sly had enough pull to get the airport to shut down one if its 3 terminals  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2018, 10:57:49 AM
Wasn't A closed because it was too expensive to keep open? The number of gates is a red herring, mci only uses like half of the available ones already. Efficiency is more important

I know you have a "We're just little ol' kc and happy to be here" mentality, but the current design just isn't worth keeping and investing in to renovate.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2018, 10:59:05 AM
Wasn't A closed because it was too expensive to keep open?

nope sly said shut it down, so they did
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 11:06:33 AM
Wasn't A closed because it was too expensive to keep open? The number of gates is a red herring, mci only uses like half of the available ones already. Efficiency is more important

I know you have a "We're just little ol' kc and happy to be here" mentality, but the current design just isn't worth keeping and investing in to renovate.

nothing is too expensive, everything is free!  including our future $2B airport!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 11:07:34 AM
i meant to say our future $10B airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 31, 2018, 11:15:27 AM
No negative consequences
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
With the airlines financing this sexy bia, there really is no negative consequences
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2018, 11:30:30 AM
No negative consequences

clams doesn't need a rah rah guy, he can handle it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 11:33:32 AM
With the airlines financing this sexy bia, there really is no negative consequences

not to the airlines, that's for sure
hell, i'd offer to finance it too.   the issue of who finances this was determined in an effort to circumvent existing ordinances and is of zero consequence.  it literally means nothing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2018, 11:33:42 AM
I'm as much of an airport expert as clams.....I just tend to believe experts who studied both options....airlines seemed to be convinced too (they wanted renovations first 'member?)

I wonder if the renovation estimates would have went up to after they did design, took into account increasing costs and brought the budget up to current day dollars?  Nah, I'm sure it would have stayed at the LOL levels and still not fixed the problems with that POS airport.....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2018, 11:34:25 AM
I can’t tell how much of this is faux outrage with clams, I feel like it’s maybe only 20% real.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2018, 11:34:56 AM
With the airlines financing this sexy bia, there really is no negative consequences

not to the airlines, that's for sure
hell, i'd offer to finance it too.   the issue of who finances this was determined in an effort to circumvent existing ordinances and is of zero consequence.  it literally means nothing.

wrong.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2018, 11:35:41 AM
I can’t tell how much of this is faux outrage with clams, I feel like it’s maybe only 20% real.

am I wrong to assume everybody approaches gE topics 20% real? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2018, 11:36:46 AM
I can’t tell how much of this is faux outrage with clams, I feel like it’s maybe only 20% real.

am I wrong to assume everybody approaches gE topics 20% real? 


Touche
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
I can’t tell how much of this is faux outrage with clams, I feel like it’s maybe only 20% real.

More like 85%
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 11:40:26 AM
I'm as much of an airport expert as clams.....I just tend to believe experts who studied both options....airlines seemed to be convinced too (they wanted renovations first 'member?)

I wonder if the renovation estimates would have went up to after they did design, took into account increasing costs and brought the budget up to current day dollars?  Nah, I'm sure it would have stayed at the LOL levels and still not fixed the problems with that POS airport.....


is this way of acknowledging your/slyin hams' lies ?

because your argument against the reno was that it was more expensive.   is it still more expensive?  or was that just your convenient way of pushing the new terminal agenda.  asking for a friend, tia!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 31, 2018, 11:44:02 AM
No negative consequences

clams doesn't need a rah rah guy, he can handle it.
Oh jesus
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2018, 11:46:24 AM
I'm as much of an airport expert as clams.....I just tend to believe experts who studied both options....airlines seemed to be convinced too (they wanted renovations first 'member?)

I wonder if the renovation estimates would have went up to after they did design, took into account increasing costs and brought the budget up to current day dollars?  Nah, I'm sure it would have stayed at the LOL levels and still not fixed the problems with that POS airport.....


is this way of acknowledging your/slyin hams' lies ?

because your argument against the reno was that it was more expensive.   is it still more expensive?  or was that just your convenient way of pushing the new terminal agenda.  asking for a friend, tia!

Wrong.  Feel free to dumpster dive though....every estimate I remember had renovation close to the new terminal cost.  My opinion as always been if I can partly fix my POS house for even 75% of getting a new house with everything I need is I'm a dumbass if I renovate.

Everybody knew both renovation and new costs would change once a decision was made....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2018, 11:46:53 AM
No negative consequences

clams doesn't need a rah rah guy, he can handle it.
Oh jesus

Excited to hear you additions to this convo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 31, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
I don't need to be told how not to be a rah rah guy when you, mocat, and lib follow each other around patting each other on that back nonstop, bud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 11:53:54 AM
I'm as much of an airport expert as clams.....I just tend to believe experts who studied both options....airlines seemed to be convinced too (they wanted renovations first 'member?)

I wonder if the renovation estimates would have went up to after they did design, took into account increasing costs and brought the budget up to current day dollars?  Nah, I'm sure it would have stayed at the LOL levels and still not fixed the problems with that POS airport.....


is this way of acknowledging your/slyin hams' lies ?

because your argument against the reno was that it was more expensive.   is it still more expensive?  or was that just your convenient way of pushing the new terminal agenda.  asking for a friend, tia!

Wrong.  Feel free to dumpster dive though....every estimate I remember had renovation close to the new terminal cost.  My opinion as always been if I can partly fix my POS house for even 75% of getting a new house with everything I need is I'm a dumbass if I renovate.

Everybody knew both renovation and new costs would change once a decision was made....

wrong
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 31, 2018, 11:54:43 AM
No negative consequences

clams doesn't need a rah rah guy, he can handle it.

neither does slyin' hams but that hasn't stopped you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
I don't need to be told how not to be a rah rah guy when you, mocat, and lib follow each other around patting each other on that back nonstop, bud.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings....what are your thoughts on the airport Wacky?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 31, 2018, 11:57:47 AM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 31, 2018, 11:58:31 AM
No negative consequences

clams doesn't need a rah rah guy, he can handle it.

neither does slyin' hams but that hasn't stopped you

if you want to beat up on Sly together, let's talk about that insane sales tax for pre-k.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2018, 12:06:04 PM
I don't need to be told how not to be a rah rah guy when you, mocat, and lib follow each other around patting each other on that back nonstop, bud.

 :jerk:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2018, 10:31:26 AM
you think this crap would fly at $10B airport?

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article220941960.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article220941960.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 01, 2018, 04:04:43 PM
This new terminal better be functional af because based on the renderings it's not winning any architecture design awards. I thought SoM would bring some sex to this thing.

Gotta love the "this is good enough for us" KC attitude.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 01, 2018, 04:14:37 PM
Gotta love the "this is good enough for us" KC attitude.

Not a KC thing.  There's an e-lawn orgy going on at KSO about Seth LittreLL.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 01, 2018, 04:25:41 PM
*midwest
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on November 15, 2018, 12:30:20 PM
Quote
Atlanta
an exclusive lounge — with free parking — for Amazon executives at one of the busiest airports in the world, Hartsfield-Jackson International

Boston
The city said it would help eligible Amazon employees purchase homes in Boston by providing zero-interest loans to help with down payments.

Chicago
The city attempted to appeal personally to CEO Jeff Bezos, a Star Trek fan, by enlisting actor William Shatner, who portrayed Captain Jim Kirk onscreen, to narrate its proposal video.

Columbus, Ohio
City officials also vowed to create a task force to prevent what Columbus refers to as “an unacceptable murder rate.”

Dallas
Among Dallas’s other offers: a new university called “Amazon U.”

Toronto
Toronto offered Amazon no incentives

Indianapolis
the chief economic development officer for the Indy Chamber, told the Indianapolis Star on Tuesday that the city’s offer did not stack up “compared to what we’ve seen publicly.” “I’m very comfortable in saying we did not get to the top 20 due to a dollar amount that may have been discussed by other communities,”

https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1063088334753447936
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 15, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
wow i can't believe columbus' pitch didn't work
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 15, 2018, 01:52:05 PM
https://twitter.com/_poppa_J/status/1062704174406733824?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2018, 02:36:32 PM
toronto :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 20, 2018, 09:25:48 AM
Why is 'sly flipping the switch this year and not Mahomes? @pissclams I expect you to raise hell on Thursday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 21, 2018, 10:45:49 AM
https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/1065282197773590530
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 21, 2018, 11:54:18 AM
If I were in charge Nori Aoki would flip the switch every year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2018, 12:09:17 PM
If I were in charge Nori Aoki would flip the switch every year.

This would be very enjoyable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 21, 2018, 12:21:25 PM
If I were in charge Nori Aoki would flip the switch every year.
He would look lost and take a horrible path, then stumble and manage to flip the switch perfectly at the last second.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 21, 2018, 02:28:37 PM
iirc in 2014 it was raul ibanez who flipped the switch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 22, 2018, 06:03:06 PM
I’m in position next to the stage to yell at Slyin for his boondagle of an airport.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 23, 2018, 12:02:28 PM
Good KC airport and Kansas geography talk towards the beginning here: https://www.spreaker.com/user/9808617/softy-2018-11-21-petros-papadakis
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 26, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
We finally did Bar K Dog Bar on Saturday: https://www.barkdogbar.com/

This place has to be making a fortune. What an awesome idea. Gotta watch the games, have a few beers, and watch Gator wear his ass out. If you have a pup, take him hear.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 26, 2018, 12:34:13 PM
confusing post
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 26, 2018, 12:36:36 PM
Weird. I thought I copied their link. One second.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 27, 2018, 09:40:19 AM
Sprint and Allegiant protesting the KCI airport over increased Costs.    SWA will likely make KC their midwest hub.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/ambitious-new-kansas-city-airport-hits-another-snag/     :Wha:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2018, 09:50:40 AM
SWA will likely make KC their midwest hub.

where did you get that?  from the kc business journal quote?  "According to the Kansas City Business Journal, a new modern airport terminal at Kansas City International Airport would serve as the airline’s perfect new mid-continent hub."

d'ass

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 27, 2018, 09:52:20 AM
The NY times aretivle said something similar and the point of the article wasn't a new kci terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 27, 2018, 10:08:58 AM
SWA heaven :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2018, 10:09:38 AM
suggesting that a new mci "would serve as the airline’s perfect new mid-continent hub" is far different than swa saying they'd make mci their new hub.
i mean, of course a new airport with new amenities would serve as a perfect hub.   

i'm guessing the nyt used sly as the source, versus the kc business journal.  both very credible but not as credible as someone like, SWA, for instance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2018, 10:11:24 AM
also, if swa were smart, they'd ignore allegiant and spirit and offer to cover the cost.  none of this is their money anyway as they're just floating the cash before making it up on the ticket sales
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on November 27, 2018, 10:20:35 AM
Ate at Ponaks a few weeks ago. Was good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 27, 2018, 10:25:06 AM
Ate at Ponaks a few weeks ago. Was good.
You were so close to Margaritas tho.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 27, 2018, 10:26:08 AM
Speaking of, the new Margaritas renovation, MY GOD!  :love: The wall with the Royals parade crowd.  :love: BITB!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on November 27, 2018, 10:57:20 AM
Ate at Ponaks a few weeks ago. Was good.
You were so close to Margaritas tho.  :frown:

I've had that too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 27, 2018, 11:05:33 AM
ponaks seems like the walking taco version of good SW BLVD mex so this checks out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Havs on November 27, 2018, 11:12:53 AM
ponaks seems like the walking taco version of good SW BLVD mex so this checks out


 :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 27, 2018, 12:47:17 PM
suggesting that a new mci "would serve as the airline’s perfect new mid-continent hub" is far different than swa saying they'd make mci their new hub.
i mean, of course a new airport with new amenities would serve as a perfect hub.   

i'm guessing the nyt used sly as the source, versus the kc business journal.  both very credible but not as credible as someone like, SWA, for instance.

I agree but the times article quotes sisneros from SWA...it was WSJ not nyt....my bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 27, 2018, 06:14:58 PM
Slyin' pops off to media (not council) that there is a 2 month delay due to negotiations with the airlines.....this slyin' supporter is  :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: about this delay and how it was communicated.  Get 'em clams!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on November 27, 2018, 06:56:17 PM
Sky was incredibly charming at the plaza lighting ceremony, I can’t hate him anymore.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 09, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Stay safe ‘clams

https://www.kmbc.com/article/shots-fired-on-country-club-plaza-injures-juvenile/25446517
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 09, 2018, 03:00:42 PM
Stay safe ‘clams

https://www.kmbc.com/article/shots-fired-on-country-club-plaza-injures-juvenile/25446517
I was walking over to zocalo to grab my fajitas and saw the police tape.  i that’s 2 shootings in the past couple months down here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 09, 2018, 03:01:47 PM
Death Plaza  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 09, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
:surprised:

https://www.reddit.com/r/kansascity/comments/a4r48l/mccoys_public_house_rumored_to_be_permanently/?st=JPHQMZMQ&sh=00204fc2
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2018, 09:49:17 PM
Wow sailor Jack's didnt last long who could have ever seen that coming
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2018, 10:44:12 AM
Stay safe ‘clams

https://www.kmbc.com/article/shots-fired-on-country-club-plaza-injures-juvenile/25446517
I was walking over to zocalo to grab my fajitas and saw the police tape.  i that’s 2 shootings in the past couple months down here

Maybe we should give the sidewalks to the plaza so they can frisk everybody? Seems to be working smashingly for Westport... RIP McVoys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 10, 2018, 11:13:11 AM
yeah i don't think we know the whole story with McCoy's closing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2018, 11:22:30 AM
100% sidewalk thing to blame. D- source.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 10, 2018, 11:23:39 AM
100% sidewalk thing to blame. D- source.

you mean metal detectors after midnight or whatever? no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on December 20, 2018, 09:23:00 PM
Kaws opening 4 new spots in Westport. Woof.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 20, 2018, 09:24:24 PM
Get a grip down there KCMO people. Yeesh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 20, 2018, 11:51:12 PM
Kaws opening 4 new spots in Westport. Woof.
Yeah it's unreal how much 22-25 year olds love kaws
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on December 21, 2018, 08:30:34 AM
so westport is turning into aggieville?  and not a cool aggieville because places called shot stop and bomb bar are obviously ran by douche bags.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 08:41:48 AM
yeah pretty much just harry's surrounded by legions of bags
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2018, 08:45:21 AM
Mocat should fit right in :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 08:52:51 AM
WHY I OUGHTTA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 08:53:30 AM
i find myself in the xroads / bottoms a lot more often now
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on December 21, 2018, 09:15:58 AM
Is Crossroads where you find all the good breweries? If so, I really like that area. :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2018, 09:30:53 AM
yep it's KC's brewery HQ.  pretty great area which will soon be gentrified as eff and i can't wait for the meltdown when that happens.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2018, 09:35:55 AM
The best brewery in Kansas City is Hopcat and it really isn't even close.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on December 21, 2018, 09:37:01 AM
wacky, what inning is your kickball game in?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2018, 09:38:15 AM
 :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on December 21, 2018, 10:28:51 AM
yep it's KC's brewery HQ.  pretty great area which will soon be gentrified as eff and i can't wait for the meltdown when that happens.
It's already getting there.  Love the 'roads.  I visited Parlor over the weekend and it was fun.  NBA Star Ron Baker was also there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2018, 10:32:48 AM
The best brewery in Kansas City is Hopcat and it really isn't even close.
You know HopCat is a chain based in Michigan, right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 10:34:11 AM
yep it's KC's brewery HQ.  pretty great area which will soon be gentrified as eff and i can't wait for the meltdown when that happens.

the only thing that will prevent the gentrification meltdown is that no poor people live(d) in the crossroads, so nobody will be displaced or priced out. it was just an industrial/commercial area. maybe some small businesses will be priced out, though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2018, 10:35:49 AM
yep it's KC's brewery HQ.  pretty great area which will soon be gentrified as eff and i can't wait for the meltdown when that happens.

the only thing that will prevent the gentrification meltdown is that no poor people live(d) in the crossroads, so nobody will be displaced or priced out. it was just an industrial/commercial area. maybe some small businesses will be priced out, though

they were all small privately owned businesses.  that's ending.  the future of downtown development goes through the crossroads area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2018, 10:35:53 AM
yep it's KC's brewery HQ.  pretty great area which will soon be gentrified as eff and i can't wait for the meltdown when that happens.
It's already getting there.  Love the 'roads.  I visited Parlor over the weekend and it was fun.  NBA Star Ron Baker was also there.
Former NBA Star

Edit: I guess he signed with Washington yesterday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 10:38:55 AM
somewhat related: why does Border suck so bad?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 10:44:11 AM
The best brewery in Kansas City is Hopcat and it really isn't even close.
You know HopCat is a chain based in Michigan, right?

i think he's just doing a little self-deprecating humor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2018, 10:44:37 AM
Man, my cousin was crapping all over them mocat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 10:51:32 AM
Man, my cousin was crapping all over them mocat


Border?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2018, 10:51:44 AM
The best brewery in Kansas City is Hopcat and it really isn't even close.
You know HopCat is a chain based in Michigan, right?

i think he's just doing a little self-deprecating humor.

Oh... :thumbs:

I do like HopCat in Chicago though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
Man, my cousin was crapping all over them mocat


Border?

Yeah, like "I don't know how they even stay in business with double shift next door" type fire
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
Man, my cousin was crapping all over them mocat


Border?

Yeah, like "I don't know how they even stay in business with double shift next door" type fire

it's weird bc they have been open the longest so they should know what they're doing, and yet every beer they have tastes like water
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2018, 11:33:06 AM
 :D You silly goose, 8 man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2018, 01:12:30 PM
i haven't drank a beer in 15 years and even i know that border sucks ballz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2018, 01:36:14 PM
yep it's KC's brewery HQ.  pretty great area which will soon be gentrified as eff and i can't wait for the meltdown when that happens.

Too late.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on December 21, 2018, 03:53:28 PM
After spending about 5yrs outside of KC I now recognize this:

KC spends more .gov money on lame construction projects than any city I have ever seen. More .gov welfare on corporate bullshit than rest of country combined probably.

Most cities dgaf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2018, 03:54:33 PM
does not collecting 100% of property tax count as spending .gov money?

because yes absolutely if so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2018, 04:08:03 PM
it’s corporate welfare so yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2018, 04:21:49 PM
More .gov welfare on corporate bullshit than rest of country combined probably.

Did you see New York's Amazon deal?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2018, 04:44:26 PM
I wonder if ny has more of a tax base to support TIF
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on December 21, 2018, 06:58:04 PM
Eh. Louisville is right there with them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on December 21, 2018, 11:21:03 PM
KCMO city council:The crime rate on prospect looks good to us. Lets issue 80 million in city bonds to build this private parking garage/office space/condo complex paid for by a TIF on cotton candy at the sprint center!

woof
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 22, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
Oh man what is a tif on cotton candy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 22, 2018, 10:32:43 AM
sounds profitable. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2018, 11:47:51 AM
 KCMO is so gross, guys!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 22, 2018, 12:08:46 PM
KCMO is so gross, guys!

Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2018, 12:53:32 PM
Agreed. Wish you could handle yourself like this in the Pit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 22, 2018, 02:56:45 PM
Agreed. Wish you could handle yourself like this in the Pit.

Gotta play to the audience down there.  Hope 2019 finds you well and less trying to hurt others feelings  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 23, 2018, 09:44:24 AM
it’s corporate welfare so yes

Most of that crap was a casualty of battling the similar terrible tax deals on the Kansas side, courtesy of the Koch brothers' stooges. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 23, 2018, 04:34:11 PM
Stockyards Brewing is p good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 29, 2018, 08:54:25 AM
There is a rumor that Johnny Kaw's will take over McCoy's space.  :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 29, 2018, 08:57:11 AM
There is a rumor that Johnny Kaw's will take over McCoy's space.  :cry:

Kaws is adding 4 places to Westport assisting to their Twitter feed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 29, 2018, 12:51:52 PM
There is a rumor that Johnny Kaw's will take over McCoy's space.  :cry:

Kaws is adding 4 places to Westport assisting to their Twitter feed.

everyone’s meltdown, including yours, about it is pretty good
 meltdown is the wrong descriptive  but ya
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 29, 2018, 01:21:42 PM
Westport has endured lots of changes. Old timer bartenders remember when it was a fairly dangerous biker spot and cops wouldn't even come there for 911 calls. Right now we're entering a period where preppy 21-25 year olds who like to dance will call it home. Glad I got to be here for the Union/Gusto/Darkhorse hipster glory days. Harry's and the Beach are probably safe I suppose
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 29, 2018, 01:25:12 PM
Man, I used to love the crap out of darkhorse
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 29, 2018, 02:00:37 PM
There is a rumor that Johnny Kaw's will take over McCoy's space.  :cry:

Kaws is adding 4 places to Westport assisting to their Twitter feed.

everyone’s meltdown, including yours, about it is pretty good
 meltdown is the wrong descriptive  but ya

I don't understand what you are saying here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2018, 12:44:31 PM
There is a rumor that Johnny Kaw's will take over McCoy's space.  :cry:
Fyi this is not true but they are taking over the union and going to call it Jonathan's
Source: B+
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 30, 2018, 03:55:18 PM
There is a rumor that Johnny Kaw's will take over McCoy's space.  :cry:
Fyi this is not true but they are taking over the union and going to call it Jonathan's
Source: B+

A+

https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article223413415.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 03, 2019, 08:37:18 AM
Kstate grads basically bringing KC the best beers singehandedly  :ksu:

https://cityscenekc.com/new-crossroads-micro-brewery-decides-to-go-west/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on January 04, 2019, 09:32:51 PM
Kstate grads basically bringing KC the best beers singehandedly  :ksu:

https://cityscenekc.com/new-crossroads-micro-brewery-decides-to-go-west/

Hey. I know one of those guys!!!!  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 04, 2019, 10:23:23 PM
“OK, for this pic we want guys with funny hats to stand on this side, and guys with beards on that side.”
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 05, 2019, 07:44:48 AM
Kstate grads basically bringing KC the best beers singehandedly  :ksu:

https://cityscenekc.com/new-crossroads-micro-brewery-decides-to-go-west/

Hey. I know one of those guys!!!!  :Woot:
Whoa I do too! Is your guy a beard or a hat? Mine is a beard
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 05, 2019, 08:51:10 AM
Kstate grads basically bringing KC the best beers singehandedly  :ksu:

https://cityscenekc.com/new-crossroads-micro-brewery-decides-to-go-west/

Hey. I know one of those guys!!!!  :Woot:
Whoa I do too! Is your guy a beard or a hat? Mine is a beard

 :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 05, 2019, 02:04:00 PM
I bet that they love the decemberists
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2019, 09:06:33 AM
There is a rumor that Johnny Kaw's will take over McCoy's space.  :cry:
Fyi this is not true but they are taking over the union that rando clothing store and going to call it Jonathan's
Source: B+

it actually looks pretty nice inside; we'll see how it works out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 11, 2019, 08:30:14 AM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/KCMikeMahoney/status/1083427750151708672
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 11, 2019, 09:05:32 AM
what does that even mean
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2019, 09:06:49 AM
I was going to ask why it's funny but humor is subjective and all that jazz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 11, 2019, 09:19:33 AM
it’s funny because he’s a pompous ass who can’t realize how over his head his team is and his solution is to tell people to take a chill pill.  but yes, humor is subjective, I agree.  while i think it’s funny, some may perceive his comments as sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2019, 09:22:59 AM
Damn, I think 'clams needs a chill pill
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 11, 2019, 10:20:42 AM
 :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2019, 12:40:43 PM
Relax, it's Friday
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cas4ksu on January 11, 2019, 02:06:06 PM
eventually all restaurants/bars will be under the umbrella of Johnathan F. Kaw.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 11, 2019, 02:13:22 PM
maybe he can step in and get the airport done
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2019, 02:24:34 PM
Flying out of KAW (suck it Burma) termy 1 this weekend, love the shot stop on either end of the bridge :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2019, 10:13:33 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/airline-representative-says-kci-agreement-is-weeks-away

unqualified gimps
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:42:04 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/airline-representative-says-kci-agreement-is-weeks-away

unqualified gimps

which?  Airlines?  Airline Department Staff?  Council?  Developers? I'm down with whomever, let's pile on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 18, 2019, 10:52:17 AM
well my opinion has been the same throughout, the city is in over their heads and this project should be managed by qualified individuals.  so yeah, this mess falls on city hall.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 18, 2019, 12:00:02 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/airline-representative-says-kci-agreement-is-weeks-away

unqualified gimps

which?  Airlines?  Airline Department Staff?  Council?  Developers? I'm down with whomever, let's pile on.
I don't know why but the airport fight between Phil and clams never gets old to me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 18, 2019, 12:05:02 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/airline-representative-says-kci-agreement-is-weeks-away

unqualified gimps

which?  Airlines?  Airline Department Staff?  Council?  Developers? I'm down with whomever, let's pile on.
I don't know why but the airport fight between Phil and clams never gets old to me

This is actually clams and I agreeing. I am ready to rail on any and all of those parties.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 18, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
well my opinion has been the same throughout, the city is in over their heads and this project should be managed by qualified individuals.  so yeah, this mess falls on city hall.

I agree. Phil Klein has no idea what he's doing it appears.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 18, 2019, 12:37:51 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/airline-representative-says-kci-agreement-is-weeks-away

unqualified gimps

which?  Airlines?  Airline Department Staff?  Council?  Developers? I'm down with whomever, let's pile on.
I don't know why but the airport fight between Phil and clams never gets old to me

it's wonderful
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 18, 2019, 03:54:29 PM
well my opinion has been the same throughout, the city is in over their heads and this project should be managed by qualified individuals.  so yeah, this mess falls on city hall.

I agree. Phil Klein has no idea what he's doing it appears.

he doesn't know what he's doing and shouldn't have been promoted into the role in the first place.  we covered this a few hundred pages ago and agreed that it was a good ol' boys club appointment.
he didn't give himself the job though, the list of people who share blame in this is longer than the monday am precheck lines for sure.

the city needs to pay an outside management firm to get them through this process and the contract should be filled with cost and time avoidance incentives towards that firm.  not only will the project shift forward, the city will then have someone to blame for any future slowdowns or overruns. 

but they think they can do it all and are going to go down with the ship
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 18, 2019, 03:59:13 PM
All of the delay so far is airline infighting, not sure what the city can do to speed that up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 25, 2019, 09:29:45 PM
You know what i haven't heard anything about in a while? The streetcar extensh. What's going on there phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 26, 2019, 09:47:33 AM
All of the delay so far is airline infighting, not sure what the city can do to speed that up.

Well the latest delay. city council and developer before that with their unrealistic timelines. Government shutdown also impacting the environmental assessment that has to be done before construction. Sounds like the airlines are close, probably just know they have time to negotiate with the EA delay prior to this drelay being pinned on them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2019, 08:21:40 AM
I heard there were 2 shootings outside my previous condo by the Quaff lately. Any comments, Phil?

Wacky! It happened last night again and I heard it! The hood is going to crap since you left. I think this is the second time I know of since you left. Send some t&p to your own neighbors and barkeeps!  I think it's that new bar on the corner causing all the disruption.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2019, 12:29:05 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 27, 2019, 12:58:23 PM
Yeah, but could you find anywhere to park?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 27, 2019, 01:05:11 PM
Yeah, but could you find anywhere to park?
No it's a shitshow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2019, 02:07:03 PM
Oh no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 27, 2019, 03:08:56 PM
Yeah, but could you find anywhere to park?
No it's a shitshow

Rumor is that's how it started. Parking.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 28, 2019, 09:21:32 AM
Yeah, but could you find anywhere to park?
No it's a shitshow

Rumor is that's how it started. Parking.

irl?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 28, 2019, 09:35:58 AM
No but the suspects did get in two separate car wrecks in different directions blocks apart so maybe they got road rage.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 28, 2019, 10:13:32 AM
Because they couldn’t find a rough ridin' parking spot :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 29, 2019, 03:35:02 PM
not Larkburger...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 01, 2019, 11:07:43 AM
Don't know if you guys have been following this Buzz stuff, but Afentra got an afternoon show on 105.1 and is going head-to-head with her ex-husband and father of her children Lazlo.

Pretttttttttty weird.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 01, 2019, 11:11:11 AM
I was just reading that on reddit. I didn't know they were divorced. I also don’t think I've ever heard of 105.1.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 01, 2019, 11:13:38 AM
I was just reading that on reddit. I didn't know they were divorced. I also don’t think I've ever heard of 105.1.
Yeah they got divorced a couple years ago.  Afentra's contract didn't get renewed a couple months ago.  I guess her non-compete is about to run out.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 01, 2019, 11:43:09 AM
It’s weird too because Lazlo was her boss as the program director and he made the decision on it. 105.1 is great btw.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 01, 2019, 11:46:32 AM
Lazlo seems to be spiraling based solely on his Twitter
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 01, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
It’s weird too because Lazlo was her boss as the program director and he made the decision on it. 105.1 is great btw.
Lazlo doesn't determine who's contracts get renewed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 01, 2019, 12:07:44 PM
You don’t think he has a little bit of a say as the Program Director?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 01, 2019, 12:42:04 PM
are there people who are #teamAfentra or #teamLazlo? Its hard to me to imagine giving a crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 01, 2019, 01:18:11 PM
are there people who are #teamAfentra or #teamLazlo? Its hard to me to imagine giving a crap.
Radio people drama is life and death to other radio people
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 01, 2019, 01:40:17 PM
You don’t think he has a little bit of a say as the Program Director?
Not really.  I imagine entercom is the one calling those kinds of shots.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 01, 2019, 01:44:39 PM
He a lot of say when I worked there, but you could be right. Obviously Dave, the head of EntercomKC, is the final decision maker. Wonder if he felt that one of them had to go after the divorce.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 01, 2019, 01:46:55 PM
He a lot of say when I worked there, but you could be right. Obviously Dave, the head of EntercomKC, is the final decision maker. Wonder if he felt that one of them had to go after the divorce.
I doubt the divorce had much to do with it -- they got divorced years ago.  maybe this was the first contract termination date since the divorce? 

I also really doubt that lazlo would have effectively fired the mother of his kids, but who knows.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 01, 2019, 01:49:09 PM
Yeah, I assume it was the first time her contract came up since the divorce. You're probably right, it's just strange all around.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 01, 2019, 01:51:09 PM
Yeah, I assume it was the first time her contract came up since the divorce. You're probably right, it's just strange all around.
Yeah.  Anyway I've listened to lazlo for like, 12 or 13 years so I'm absolutely interested in how all of this is going to go.

It's the monday night wars all over again!  Except it's EVERY WEEKDAY AFTERNOON!  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 01, 2019, 01:55:09 PM
 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 01, 2019, 02:44:09 PM
I'm happy (for her kids sake) she was able to find work locally.  (Unless I'm wrong about there being a bunch of alternative radio stations in KC)

It can't be super circumstantial that her contract was not renewed by the same station that employs her ex husband....and that she found a job after her non-compete ended for a rival station in the same time slot as her ex husband.

Apparently Dannyboy and Mark's contract was not renewed at the beginning of this month?  I noticed they are no longer on the morning show as well. 

Additionally, Lazlo brushes it off that they both can have success and it's not a big deal.  :Crazy:  Listen longer, though!

By the way, the little I've listed to the new morning show host on 96.5 has been enough for me to no longer want to listen in the mornings.  She is pretty awful.  Apparently Lazlo had influence in bringing her to KC.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 01, 2019, 04:34:08 PM
He a lot of say when I worked there, but you could be right. Obviously Dave, the head of EntercomKC, is the final decision maker. Wonder if he felt that one of them had to go after the divorce.

dang you worked in radio? how come you never mentioned it before?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 01, 2019, 04:34:30 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/anYBNhqT2BYcg/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 01, 2019, 04:41:52 PM
i feel sorry for people who listen to kc radio
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on February 01, 2019, 05:07:53 PM
i feel sorry for people who listen to kc radio

I thought maybe it was like hipster counter culture to listen to the radio or something.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 01, 2019, 05:46:29 PM
i listen to the podcasts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 01, 2019, 06:18:38 PM
I listen to 98.1 in the car  :Carl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 01, 2019, 10:19:58 PM
At first I was like I kind of know those names but good lord wgaf?  but then I decided I need something like this so I need to know should I be team Lazlo or team affentra?

I want one poster from each team lay out their case.  I will pick my favorite then throw my influence behind them as they crush the other in the winner take all battle of KC FM radio afternoon pop music talk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 03, 2019, 06:43:31 AM
Fight me, Cartierfor3!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on February 03, 2019, 11:07:20 AM
I thought the street car was the most KC argument, then the airport debate happened, but now we have distilled the kansas city down to that uncut KC talk about local radio personality's personal lives.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 04, 2019, 06:03:20 PM
I used to casually listen to lazlo years ago, but the thing that stuck out most in my memory was them always talking about panty hose porn. Flipped it on on my way home tonight and they go straight into panty hose porn.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on February 04, 2019, 06:27:00 PM
lol I heard that too.  Afentra is okay but man her voice is a beating after about 10 minutes.  Team lazlo just for that reason.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on February 05, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
When I was in high school I helped build some dog kennels under my friends deck for their hunting dogs. When they moved Lazlo bought the house and every once in a while would complain about the kennels on air.

What I'm saying it that made me relate to him.

#TeamLazlo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on February 05, 2019, 06:01:48 PM
When I was in high school I helped build some dog kennels under my friends deck for their hunting dogs. When they moved Lazlo bought the house and every once in a while would complain about the kennels on air.

What I'm saying it that made me relate to him.

#TeamLazlo


That made me think of another poster that bought Jason Whitlocks house. I think it was shell shock.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on February 05, 2019, 06:23:25 PM
When I was in high school I helped build some dog kennels under my friends deck for their hunting dogs. When they moved Lazlo bought the house and every once in a while would complain about the kennels on air.

What I'm saying it that made me relate to him.

#TeamLazlo


That made me think of another poster that bought Jason Whitlocks house. I think it was shell shock.
I think it was. IIRC he had a hot tub in his basement and hot pink carpet or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 07, 2019, 03:12:58 PM
New KCI, same price

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article225915675.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2019, 03:17:29 PM
New KCI, same price

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article225915675.html

Maybe see some ground moving in March  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 07, 2019, 03:35:45 PM
Quote
The city has promised no taxpayer funds will be used for the project, which was overwhelmingly approved by voters in November 2017. Airlines will be responsible for any cost overruns.

Why is the city considered issuing Special Obligation Bonds?

The assertion that the public isn’t paying anything is based on the airport’s claim that airport revenue and airline lease and user agreements will cover the bond debt service.  There definitely are, however, possible circumstances that could render this claim inaccurate, ultimately exposing taxpayers. The point isn’t whether the airport’s optimistic scenario is valid. Rather, the point is whether voters will have a chance to evaluate whether they want to accept the financial risks of proceeding with a project involving immense public debt.

Instead, City Hall has again decided to lie to its constituents.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2019, 03:37:56 PM
Quote
The city has promised no taxpayer funds will be used for the project, which was overwhelmingly approved by voters in November 2017. Airlines will be responsible for any cost overruns.

Why is the city considered issuing Special Obligation Bonds?

The assertion that the public isn’t paying anything is based on the airport’s claim that airport revenue and airline lease and user agreements will cover the bond debt service.  There definitely are, however, possible circumstances that could render this claim inaccurate, ultimately exposing taxpayers. The point isn’t whether the airport’s optimistic scenario is valid. Rather, the point is whether voters will have a chance to evaluate whether they want to accept the financial risks of proceeding with a project involving immense public debt.

They did. They approved it by a vote of 76%.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 07, 2019, 03:48:33 PM
No, that’s exactly not what was approved and City Hall knows it.
So what’s the driver then, for the Special Obligation Bonds?  Oh that’s right, to get around voter approval requirements.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
No, that’s exactly not what was approved and City Hall knows it.
So what’s the driver then, for the Special Obligation Bonds?  Oh that’s right, to get around voter approval requirements.

I don't know what special obligation bonds to which you are referring.

Get your gal Teresa Loar on it. She has a girl boner for this not happening. That or Taylor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 07, 2019, 04:07:26 PM
Julie was talking about bonds on the radio today but I wasn't listening, sorry phil
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 07, 2019, 05:53:11 PM
http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/liveweb/Documents/Document.aspx?q=JSzLB9oqEfc82RKxzcqF6nuqmTyvceFZ08cpp4hrvMi6wpXDO9GQZlyzXY4NPfSi
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
I'm not the muni bondCst you are. Wouldn't those be the bonds you issue to you know, do the project?

The voting language even says no general airport bonds. These aren't general airport bonds?

Did you think this was a straight cash deal?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 07, 2019, 08:53:22 PM
now is an especially good time for you to play dumbass since you and your ilk have again been put into a corner
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2019, 09:27:49 PM
now is an especially good time for you to play dumbass since you and your ilk have again been put into a corner

Got 'em clams!  Nice work.  You and tonyskansascity figured out the scheme.   
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Now could you explain it to the rest of us? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 07, 2019, 09:50:01 PM
okay I googled my face of for you clams, is this what you are talking about?  a year old story about using conduit bonds?

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2018/01/18/edgemoor-commits-to-financing-that-will-save-90m.html

Quote
One reason a selection committee chose Edgemoor’s proposal over three others in September was that it was the only one that included the possibility of 100 percent financing though privately placed public debt. That debt, which would consist of “conduit bonds” issued through an agency such as Port KC or the Platte County Industrial Development Authority, would result in lower annual financing payments for the project, City Manager Troy Schulte, a member of the selection committee, said at the time.

Edgemoor’s 100 percent public debt option would result in interest costs only slightly higher than those the city typically achieves by using city-issued Airport Revenue Bonds for airport improvements. But unlike those bonds, conduit bonds do not have to be specifically approved by voters.

You are now cla(i)ming these conduit bonds are putting the city's general fund at risk?  If that's the case this is huge news and you should send this right to Jolie Justus so she can put a halt to this sham.  Don't waste this year old story on us!

edit...What are conduit bonds?  I didn't know, so I googled that too....here is what that says:

Quote
What is Conduit Issuer
A conduit issuer is an organization, usually a government agency, that issues municipal securities to raise capital for revenue-generating projects where the funds generated are used by a third party (known as the "conduit borrower") to make payments to investors. The conduit financing is typically backed by either the conduit borrower's credit or funds pledged toward the project by outside investors. If a project fails, and the security goes into default, it falls to the conduit borrower's financial obligation, not the conduit issuer.

Risks for Conduit Issuers
Higher returns come with a higher risks, and since conduit bonds are not backed by the full faith and credit of the issuing government or agency, it's important for investors to understand they are investing in the project, not the conduit issuer.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/conduit-issuer.asp

:ck:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2019, 08:27:23 AM
Thank god Phil doesn't take this website too seriously.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 08, 2019, 09:06:58 AM
there’s that, and he’s wrong, but whatever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2019, 09:17:44 AM
Thank god Phil doesn't take this website too seriously.

Lol good point wacky. He got me! He knows my Achilles I guess.

I appreciate you stalking all my posts to keep my honest.  Happy Friday bud!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2019, 09:26:01 AM
It's ok to admit you're a hypocrite, bud. Happy Friday as well!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2019, 09:47:37 AM
there’s that, and he’s wrong, but whatever

Help me understand why clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2019, 09:49:42 AM
It's ok to admit you're a hypocrite, bud. Happy Friday as well!

No reason to be nasty wacky. Nobody is trying to attack you here. Safe space. I appreciate you keeping every one of my posts closely monitored and cross checking to every other comment I've made. You are doing me a great service.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 08, 2019, 09:52:54 AM
there’s that, and he’s wrong, but whatever

Help me understand why clams.

I already did that in my past few posts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2019, 10:03:39 AM
I get it now. Use TKC to rile up old Phil. Hook line and sinker.

Got me clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2019, 10:14:03 AM
It's ok to admit you're a hypocrite, bud. Happy Friday as well!

No reason to be nasty wacky. Nobody is trying to attack you here. Safe space. I appreciate you keeping every one of my posts closely monitored and cross checking to every other comment I've made. You are doing me a great service.
Hey man, I'm good, no need to lecture others on the reg, when you're doing the same thing on this blog. Happy Friday!

Also, "stalking post related", I believe you quote more of my posts than anyone else on this blog.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2019, 10:20:37 AM
It's ok to admit you're a hypocrite, bud. Happy Friday as well!

No reason to be nasty wacky. Nobody is trying to attack you here. Safe space. I appreciate you keeping every one of my posts closely monitored and cross checking to every other comment I've made. You are doing me a great service.
Hey man, I'm good, no need to lecture others on the reg, when you're doing the same thing on this blog. Happy Friday!

Also, "stalking post related", I believe you quote more of my posts than anyone else on this blog.  :cheers:

Lecture? Lol. Sorry it comes across that way, not the intent. 

Post one on the "phil quoted me" counter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2019, 10:22:06 AM
It's ok to admit you're a hypocrite, bud. Happy Friday as well!

No reason to be nasty wacky. Nobody is trying to attack you here. Safe space. I appreciate you keeping every one of my posts closely monitored and cross checking to every other comment I've made. You are doing me a great service.
Hey man, I'm good, no need to lecture others on the reg, when you're doing the same thing on this blog. Happy Friday!

Also, "stalking post related", I believe you quote more of my posts than anyone else on this blog.  :cheers:

Lecture? Lol. Sorry it comes across that way, not the intent. 

Post one on the "phil quoted me" counter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cas4ksu on February 08, 2019, 10:24:50 AM
Yeah, I assume it was the first time her contract came up since the divorce. You're probably right, it's just strange all around.
Yeah.  Anyway I've listened to lazlo for like, 12 or 13 years so I'm absolutely interested in how all of this is going to go.

It's the monday night wars all over again!  Except it's EVERY WEEKDAY AFTERNOON!  :excited:

stop talking about alternative music.

alternative music? more like BAD alternative music? LOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 08, 2019, 03:48:48 PM
I get it now. Use TKC to rile up old Phil. Hook line and sinker.

Got me clams.

why is the city electing to push the SOBs instead of General Obligation bonds?
what’s the emergent issue that’s pushing that decision?

also are you among those who are celebrating the fact that slyin’s solution is only 2x the original estimated cost?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2019, 04:31:10 PM
Good ole fashion muni bond off brewing here.

I have no idea clams. Not fooling me again then having wacky come in an fun on me.

Have a good weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2019, 04:43:31 PM
Good ole fashion muni bond off brewing here.

I have no idea clams. Not fooling me again then having wacky come in an fun on me.

Have a good weekend.
Wut
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 08, 2019, 04:44:25 PM
It’s 4:43 friend, enjoy the drink and slow down, have a good weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 08, 2019, 04:54:40 PM
It’s 4:43 friend, enjoy the drink and slow down, have a good weekend.

One step ahead of you.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 08, 2019, 07:09:02 PM
Good ole fashion muni bond off brewing here.

I have no idea clams. Not fooling me again then having wacky come in an fun on me.

Have a good weekend.
simple question you asked and I answered it.
so why, when gen obligation bonds require a vote, is slyin opting to special obligation bond this?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on February 08, 2019, 07:15:03 PM
That SOB . . .
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on February 08, 2019, 09:09:57 PM
 
That SOB . . .

That’s what I’m rough ridin' talking about!

:alleyoop:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 09, 2019, 11:10:28 AM
Good ole fashion muni bond off brewing here.

I have no idea clams. Not fooling me again then having wacky come in an fun on me.

Have a good weekend.
simple question you asked and I answered it.
so why, when gen obligation bonds require a vote, is slyin opting to special obligation bond this?

You should really alert the authorities to this. I'm sure you and your citizens for responsible government hawks ( :jayhook: ) will get to the bottom.of this!

See you in the new kci premium lounge in 2023!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 10, 2019, 10:37:10 AM
Good ole fashion muni bond off brewing here.

I have no idea clams. Not fooling me again then having wacky come in an fun on me.

Have a good weekend.
simple question you asked and I answered it.
so why, when gen obligation bonds require a vote, is slyin opting to special obligation bond this?

You should really alert the authorities to this. I'm sure you and your citizens for responsible government hawks ( :jayhook: ) will get to the bottom.of this!

See you in the new kci premium lounge in 2023!

that's all you got.  <- not a question
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 14, 2019, 03:55:31 PM
KCMO new budget increases PD budget by $7.3MM. PD will add exactly zero officers with that money. Is funding really the problem with our PD and by extension crime prevention?  Need more accountability directly to KCMO citizens.  26% of PDs budget is health and pensions. Where are their leadership at driving this cost down?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 14, 2019, 07:35:51 PM
you don’t agree with offering the pd good health benefits or pensions?
what percentage is $7M of their total budget?  doesn’t seem like much to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 14, 2019, 09:28:36 PM
you don’t agree with offering the pd good health benefits or pensions?
what percentage is $7M of their total budget?  doesn’t seem like much to me.

Coming from a lot of cops in my family I for sure want them to have high quality healthcare.  Pension? I think there is something that can be done there by leadership to get that under control. I'm not against them getting a pension though despite nobody else in America getting them anymore.

7 Million and not one cop added? Wtf? I know what cops get paid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2019, 10:14:45 AM
Streetcar considering going north to river then east along river. 

Hogshead serving CBD drinks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2019, 10:17:20 AM
Streetcar considering going north to river then east along river. 

Hogshead serving CBD drinks

Hopefully all the way to isle of crapi
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2019, 10:32:28 AM
That is a horrible idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2019, 10:35:50 AM
That is a horrible idea

Which part?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 17, 2019, 11:21:18 AM
https://twitter.com/Ian__Cummings/status/1097181415270203393
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2019, 11:39:26 AM
That is a horrible idea

Which part?

An extension along the river to the east.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2019, 12:32:03 PM
That is a horrible idea

Which part?

An extension along the river to the east.

Expand on that. Why is it so horrible idea?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 17, 2019, 03:45:47 PM
well, to begin with let's talk about the return on capital investment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2019, 05:30:47 PM
well, to begin with let's talk about the return on capital investment

I'm not pro or con that expansion. Sure let's talk about it. Whose capital investment? How is it being funded? What do you consider a return? Property tax from new buildings?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 17, 2019, 06:17:04 PM
it's great that you've uncovered the great mystery.  we should just build streetcars on every street in KCMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 17, 2019, 08:09:28 PM
it's great that you've uncovered the great mystery.  we should just build streetcars on every street in KCMO.

 :Chirp:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 18, 2019, 08:55:54 AM
I'm trying to think of stuff along the river that's east of the river market area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2019, 09:13:49 AM
I'm trying to think of stuff along the river that's east of the river market area.

Not much yet.  One apartment complex and the park itself. The port authority thinks the rail line will create even more demand for their master plan. 

I'm not sold but I think getting it to isle of crapi where the city owns a large lot that could be used for a park and ride or.other development could increase the benefit of the expansion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 18, 2019, 09:25:33 AM
Infrastructure investments are typically a great catalyst for development in an area.  I have seen very few examples where this has not been the case.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2019, 09:27:33 AM
Isn't this where our guy wackycat08 would go to see homeless sex shows?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2019, 10:00:05 AM
Yeah, thee worst! Bums on bums on buns!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 18, 2019, 10:05:17 AM
you don’t agree with offering the pd good health benefits or pensions?
what percentage is $7M of their total budget?  doesn’t seem like much to me.

looks like total requested budget for 2019 was slightly over $228 Million.   That was an $8Mil increase over 2018.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 18, 2019, 10:20:51 AM
I'm trying to think of stuff along the river that's east of the river market area.

Not much yet.  One apartment complex and the park itself. The port authority thinks the rail line will create even more demand for their master plan. 

I'm not sold but I think getting it to isle of crapi where the city owns a large lot that could be used for a park and ride or.other development could increase the benefit of the expansion.

Like, will BarK have its own stop?  There is literally nothing there.  Run it east along 8th or something and get some $$ flowing to the poorer parts of KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cas4ksu on February 18, 2019, 10:40:36 AM
isle of capri is a dump.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 18, 2019, 11:07:54 AM
I'm trying to think of stuff along the river that's east of the river market area.

Not much yet.  One apartment complex and the park itself. The port authority thinks the rail line will create even more demand for their master plan. 

I'm not sold but I think getting it to isle of crapi where the city owns a large lot that could be used for a park and ride or.other development could increase the benefit of the expansion.

Like, will BarK have its own stop?  There is literally nothing there.  Run it east along 8th or something and get some $$ flowing to the poorer parts of KC.

but the idea is that this extension will grow the river quay into a rich and bustling district and that people (who?) will hang out and pump hundreds of millions of dollars into the area.
the streetcar isn't meant to help the poor, it's designed the make the rich (developers), richer.
the streetcar concept is designed to shuttle white people around who have money to spend offsetting development costs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2019, 01:20:37 PM
isle of capri is a dump.

Hence the isle of crapi moniker
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2019, 01:22:00 PM
I'm trying to think of stuff along the river that's east of the river market area.

Not much yet.  One apartment complex and the park itself. The port authority thinks the rail line will create even more demand for their master plan. 

I'm not sold but I think getting it to isle of crapi where the city owns a large lot that could be used for a park and ride or.other development could increase the benefit of the expansion.

Like, will BarK have its own stop?  There is literally nothing there.  Run it east along 8th or something and get some $$ flowing to the poorer parts of KC.

A BRT line along independence avenue is a great idea and is bring studied.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2019, 11:51:13 AM
Big KCI day. FAA environmental assessment signing today. Term sheet with airlines signing next week for full council to approve on Thursday the 28th. Airlines picking up 90MM in short term funding needed to get to bond sale (no borrowing money from other departments)

 :driving: <--- Phil driving bulldozer over terminal A next week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on February 21, 2019, 04:31:09 PM
can't wait to ride the 'reetcar to knuckleheads
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 21, 2019, 05:16:55 PM
can't wait to ride the 'reetcar to knuckleheads
:love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 21, 2019, 06:19:00 PM
The streetcar is already literally less than a 5 minute walk from BarK. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2019, 06:21:59 PM
It's 1.3 miles wacks. I'm impressed with your walking ability!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 21, 2019, 06:26:02 PM
26 minute walk isn't bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on February 21, 2019, 06:33:30 PM
Only a 3 minute scoot!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Benja on February 21, 2019, 07:23:36 PM
I'm trying to think of stuff along the river that's east of the river market area.

That's funny because we actually walked around down there recently when it was nice. Are they trying to get something going in that area? That giant sorta weird apartment complex and walking areas. I will go jogging there this spring.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 21, 2019, 07:34:36 PM
Hey Wacky, are you down at McCormick Place? Why don't you walk on up to my neighborhood, shouldn't take more than a half hour
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2019, 08:04:52 PM
I'm trying to think of stuff along the river that's east of the river market area.

That's funny because we actually walked around down there recently when it was nice. Are they trying to get something going in that area? That giant sorta weird apartment complex and walking areas. I will go jogging there this spring.

Yeah the riverfront park has been there awhile but mostly unused apart from homeless sexing that wacky experienced in that weird brush area between the pedestrian bridge and the park itself.

The apartments are new and they have 3 additional housing projects planned down there. The streetcar is a portkc desire to help connect the area. I'm still neutral on that whole thing. I like the park area I'm not sure housing was the right choice down there though.  The pedestrian bridge along grand viaduct that is planned would help.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Benja on February 21, 2019, 08:12:35 PM
I'm trying to think of stuff along the river that's east of the river market area.

That's funny because we actually walked around down there recently when it was nice. Are they trying to get something going in that area? That giant sorta weird apartment complex and walking areas. I will go jogging there this spring.

Yeah the riverfront park has been there awhile but mostly unused apart from homeless sexing that wacky experienced in that weird brush area between the pedestrian bridge and the park itself.

The apartments are new and they have 3 additional housing projects planned down there. The streetcar is a portkc desire to help connect the area. I'm still neutral on that whole thing. I like the park area I'm not sure housing was the right choice down there though.  The pedestrian bridge along grand viaduct that is planned would help.

Walking down by the river and around those old bridges and such actually isn't bad when the weather is nice. If you have a dog it's great because there is tons of space. I'm not sure what the overall plan is though. It needs some shops/bars/restaurants or some sort of activities to attract any sort of crowd long-term.

I also think there was some sort of volleyball league playing their games there last summer. So that's something.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2019, 08:21:48 PM
Yeah I like the recreation idea and adding more to the volleyball courts. The dog bar is a cool idea.  I believe there is another bar concept planned. I love the idea of some booze drinks watching barges and driftwood float by (serious).

I like running down there but wish they would beat down the brush between ped bridge and the park proper. Be a cool place to let some artists do sculpture art.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Benja on February 21, 2019, 08:33:45 PM
Yeah I like the recreation idea and adding more to the volleyball courts. The dog bar is a cool idea.  I believe there is another bar concept planned. I love the idea of some booze drinks watching barges and driftwood float by (serious).

I like running down there but wish they would beat down the brush between ped bridge and the park proper. Be a cool place to let some artists do sculpture art.

YES. There is still tons of landscaping to be done. I understand it's a big area. There are a couple historic bars/buildings around there that can be incorporated. Def down for some drinks and a barge. I will try out volleyball down there this summer and see if anything has changed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2019, 08:35:26 PM
Mooring a bar barge to the side of the bank would be awesome.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Benja on February 21, 2019, 09:11:37 PM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFVVs8fMnCw&t=29s[/youtube]


Apparently this crap literally never happens, so it's a thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2019, 10:16:14 PM
I would love to get barge gassed w some bros
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 21, 2019, 10:17:31 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 21, 2019, 10:25:53 PM
Like the Frying Pan on New York.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Benja on February 21, 2019, 10:35:48 PM
I would love to get barge gassed w some bros

I mean, absolutely.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 12:20:50 PM
It's 1.3 miles wacks. I'm impressed with your walking ability!
It’s 1.3 miles from that Chinese place in the river market where the street car runs through to BarK (It’s not)? Either way, you want to expand to the middle of rough ridin' nowhere where bums eff openly?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 12:22:12 PM
Hey Wacky, are you down at McCormick Place? Why don't you walk on up to my neighborhood, shouldn't take more than a half hour
Sorry I missed this. We got crap faced around here. I couldn’t even tell you where tf we were last night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 12:43:33 PM
It's 1.3 miles wacks. I'm impressed with your walking ability!
It’s 1.3 miles from that Chinese place in the river market where the street car runs through to BarK (It’s not)? Either way, you want to expand to the middle of rough ridin' nowhere where bums eff openly?

I plugged it into Google maps. It would be shorter if you could walk the grand Ave overpass but that's a death wish without sidewalks and blind corners.

I don't want to do anything, as I've posted multiple times in here I'm not convinced it's a good idea.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 12:45:29 PM
Hey Wacky, are you down at McCormick Place? Why don't you walk on up to my neighborhood, shouldn't take more than a half hour
Sorry I missed this. We got crap faced around here. I couldn’t even tell you where tf we were last night.
Btw, I would have taken a $5 Uber! :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 22, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
I think it was a joke about how fast you walk a mile and it's probably like 6 miles
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 22, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
Yeah se7en is right
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 01:03:48 PM
I think it was a joke about how fast you walk a mile and it's probably like 6 miles
You said 26 minutes to walk a mile tho. Might want to get checked out soon. ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 01:06:46 PM
I just find the street car transportation topic as lol. Like how did ppl do it beforehand? Miracle!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 01:12:33 PM
I just find the street car transportation topic as lol. Like how did ppl do it beforehand? Miracle!

Not everyone is as able bodied as you are stud walker dude.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 22, 2019, 01:13:09 PM
Before streetcars I think it was just horse and buggy but maybe car cars were first
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 01:18:08 PM
Ppl don’t ride the street car for transportation. They ride it so they can tell ppl they rode it. Last December, Mrs Wacky and I did this remarkable thing. We made it to BarK with Gator without using the 1 mile Choo choo train.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 01:23:03 PM
Ppl don’t ride the street car for transportation. They ride it so they can tell ppl they rode it. Last December, Mrs Wacky and I did this remarkable thing. We made it to BarK with Gator without using the 1 mile Choo choo train.

You drove to barK. Cool. Congrats.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 01:25:29 PM
Thanks! Didn’t cost taxpayer $ either. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on February 22, 2019, 01:30:05 PM
Thanks! Didn’t cost taxpayer $ either. :thumbs:
How the hell do you think the roads and sidewalks were paid for?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 01:30:56 PM
Thanks! Didn’t cost taxpayer $ either. :thumbs:

Roads are free y'all!

Wacky me and my downtown buds pay for the streetcar. We'd love for you to use it.  On us. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 01:36:53 PM
Roads are necessary. The street car isn’t. :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 22, 2019, 01:39:39 PM
the shelter was randomly gone from my normal bus stop yesterday. tf is going on phil  :impatient:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 01:39:58 PM
My SimCity cities were all train tracks. Honest. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 01:40:28 PM
the shelter was randomly gone from my normal bus stop yesterday. tf is going on phil  :impatient:

Deemed not necessary.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 01:41:53 PM
Classic libs. Let’s waste taxpayer $ on unnecessary crap and defend it to the death. :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 22, 2019, 01:44:09 PM
the shelter was randomly gone from my normal bus stop yesterday. tf is going on phil  :impatient:

Deemed not necessary.

but it was already there so why would it be necessary to take it down, thereby exposing everyone to the terrible kansas city weather?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 01:47:59 PM
the shelter was randomly gone from my normal bus stop yesterday. tf is going on phil  :impatient:

Deemed not necessary.

but it was already there so why would it be necessary to take it down, thereby exposing everyone to the terrible kansas city weather?

Sold for scrap to.fill potholes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 01:48:59 PM
Classic libs. Let’s waste taxpayer $ on unnecessary crap and defend it to the death. :ROFL:

Let's please not let the pit bleed into this nice flyer talk room.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 01:51:03 PM
It’s Friday, Phil, relax. Don’t take this blog too seriously.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 02:09:24 PM
It’s Friday, Phil, relax. Don’t take this blog too seriously.

Good idea. Mixing "lib" talk with KC fun is taking it too seriously bud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 02:14:01 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 22, 2019, 02:46:16 PM
i rode the streetcar once and it was actually more convenient than driving. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on February 22, 2019, 02:47:50 PM
kinda surprised someone living in lenexa didn't use the streetcar to get to BarK
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 02:49:01 PM
i rode the streetcar once and it was actually more convenient than driving.
I personally find driving myself the absolute most annoying method of transportation.  Maybe horse and buggy would.be worse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 22, 2019, 02:50:47 PM
I use the streetcar pretty much any time I am going anywhere within a few blocks of the line. Parking at union Station is very convenient for this waldoian
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on February 22, 2019, 03:56:08 PM
driving from waldo to union station and waiting for a streetcar to take you to someplace you could have just parked at sounds like the opposite of convenient.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 03:58:08 PM
because it is and it's weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 22, 2019, 04:19:20 PM
It's very convenient, try it some time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 22, 2019, 04:22:04 PM
Also parking downtown is a crap show  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 22, 2019, 04:24:43 PM
i ride the streetcar a lot ama
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2019, 05:06:35 PM
dune buggies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2019, 05:08:46 PM
Also parking downtown is a crap show  :th_twocents:

things midwesterns hate- walking a block/not parking in front of your destination
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 22, 2019, 06:21:35 PM
Also parking downtown is a crap show  :th_twocents:

things midwesterns hate- walking a block/not parking in front of your destination

Preach.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 22, 2019, 09:15:07 PM
Also downtown driving is apparently really hard :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2019, 12:58:16 PM
Taking the streetcar right now for transportation irl.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 23, 2019, 02:06:08 PM
Obviously. You’re telling us about it. That’s what street car goers do.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2019, 02:22:48 PM
Obviously. You’re telling us about it. That’s what street car goers do.

 :cheers:

It was rainy Wacky else I would have walked it in your honor!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 23, 2019, 02:36:40 PM
Obviously. You’re telling us about it. That’s what street car goers do.
How many people would you say need to ride it for you to say that people in fact ride it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on February 23, 2019, 02:38:22 PM
I looked at the proposed expansion sites and you people should definitely do the thing where it goes to the plaza and umkc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2019, 02:49:43 PM
I looked at the proposed expansion sites and you people should definitely do the thing where it goes to the plaza and umkc.

That is already voted on and passed. Waiting for the feds.to kick in some bucks. Should know this spring.

Agreed without that extension the current line is much less beneficial
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 23, 2019, 04:03:07 PM
Can't wait for 'clams to streetcar from the 'loon patio to barK with scout on a leash
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2019, 04:05:25 PM
 :nono:

http://kcstreetcar.org/faq/can-i-take-my-dog/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 23, 2019, 04:06:38 PM
Scout is a service Gato, particularly after a few Caucasians
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2019, 08:42:04 PM
Waited at streetcar stop and let that dumb train go.by as I waited for my Uber home. Too windy and rainy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Benja on February 23, 2019, 08:56:28 PM
Also parking downtown is a crap show  :th_twocents:

things midwesterns hate- walking a block/not parking in front of your destination

The worst.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2019, 10:56:16 AM
slyin is now campaigning for his new 3/8th cent 10 year sales tax to help pre-k kids
i'm sure he knows it will never pass, but this, at least, gives him an out when people rightly complain about him ignoring the underserved in the city.

if he only put as much time and thought into this pre-k tax idea that he did getting the airport approved maybe these lesser privileged kids would have benefited form a regressive tax program that their parents can't afford to subsidize. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 25, 2019, 11:00:38 AM
slyin is now campaigning for his new 3/8th cent 10 year sales tax to help pre-k kids
i'm sure he knows it will never pass, but this, at least, gives him an out when people rightly complain about him ignoring the underserved in the city.

if he only put as much time and thought into this pre-k tax idea that he did getting the airport approved maybe these lesser privileged kids would have benefited form a regressive tax program that their parents can't afford to subsidize.

Agreed. Not a fan of this funding method.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 25, 2019, 11:33:32 AM
I need the potholes to be fixed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cas4ksu on February 25, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
I need the potholes to be fixed.

(nick) Ward Parkway is a disaster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 25, 2019, 12:16:08 PM
Every Uber from my house to the plaza via ward pkwy is the driver complaining about pot holes for 10 minutes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 25, 2019, 12:16:36 PM
all hands on deck.  fix the potholes, sly.  tired of this crap. 

could the potholes be a long con by sly to get people to hate auto transportation to get them more reliant on the streetcar/airport?  :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 25, 2019, 12:17:21 PM
I find the west side of 435 loop to be worse tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cas4ksu on February 25, 2019, 12:18:00 PM
all hands on deck.  fix the potholes, sly.  tired of this crap. 

could the potholes be a long con by sly to get people to hate auto transportation to get them more reliant on the streetcar/airport?  :confused:

#SLYFLYAWAY
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cas4ksu on February 25, 2019, 12:18:16 PM
I find the west side of 435 loop to be worse tho

also egregiously bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 25, 2019, 01:21:43 PM
i had to stop taking ward parkway and instead now travel state line.  can't imagine ever driving on the west side of the 435 loop so i guess i'd say to those who do, you probably deserve pot holes.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 25, 2019, 02:07:59 PM
Not a very #1kc attitude 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on February 25, 2019, 02:11:25 PM
You guys should call Domino's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 25, 2019, 10:57:55 PM
I find the west side of 435 loop to be worse tho
This is also sly's responsibility iirc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 26, 2019, 07:36:11 AM
 :Chirp:
I find the west side of 435 loop to be worse tho
This is also sly's responsibility iirc
I think that’s modot’s jurisdiction.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on February 27, 2019, 12:40:21 PM
You guys should call Domino's.

i enjoyed this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 28, 2019, 02:40:16 PM
Big new kci day today. Bet clams is at city hall to high five Jolie!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 28, 2019, 03:47:22 PM
kc area chick fil-a's now have chick-fil-a cheese dipping sauce
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 28, 2019, 05:07:43 PM
Passed 11 to 1. Clams hero Loar was absent. 

Full speed ahead, not one thing to slow it down now  :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2019, 07:09:19 PM
Did I hear correctly today when I heard about 1.5 billion dollars for a new terminal, plus certain airlines raising their rates for it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2019, 07:10:57 PM
I hope this thing takes 8 years so I can keep getting my clams-phil fix.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 28, 2019, 07:12:12 PM
I hope this thing takes 8 years so I can keep getting my clams-phil fix.

we better have a 'portpak when this [redacted] opens up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2019, 07:13:45 PM
Who needs to deice the roads when you’re out of $ when you have a fancy new streetcar and a new terminal on the way. Crime rate? Pfftt!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2019, 07:23:23 PM
Icing the roads seems like a bad move
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 28, 2019, 07:29:04 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on February 28, 2019, 09:16:21 PM
Maybe sly pulled off the most epic mass icing ever, bro.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 28, 2019, 11:14:04 PM
I hope this thing takes 8 years so I can keep getting my clams-phil fix.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 28, 2019, 11:16:13 PM
Who needs to deice the roads when you’re out of $ when you have a fancy new streetcar and a new terminal on the way. Crime rate? Pfftt!

Everybody buys AWD SUVs now, why spend money on filing potholes and snow removal? Outside the box guys.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 01, 2019, 12:25:33 AM
Lulz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 01, 2019, 12:26:36 AM
Jesus
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 01, 2019, 12:34:02 AM
How is this going, Phil?

https://twitter.com/KCTV5/status/1100740668136325121
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 01, 2019, 06:43:34 AM
Looks like Mark got caught in an episode of to catch a predator.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2019, 08:32:09 AM
I think Markl probably goes in the black people name, black people shame thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 02, 2019, 05:38:53 PM
https://twitter.com/sam_hartle/status/1101977106500780032
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2019, 09:13:13 AM
Anybody else confused how that is "the most kc thing"?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: BW on March 03, 2019, 10:03:39 AM
More like...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190303/dbd15bf89793673dabdbe68e04c11d57.jpg)

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 03, 2019, 10:34:26 AM
https://twitter.com/visitkc/status/1101562563144372225
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2019, 12:54:21 PM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 04, 2019, 11:48:58 AM
https://www.kmbc.com/amp/article/get-your-first-look-at-queer-eye-season-shot-in-kansas-city-in-new-trailer/26625471
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2019, 12:36:36 PM
I watched a couple episodes of queer eye in atlanta and thought they were very good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 04, 2019, 12:48:29 PM
that kc video is cringe to the max
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2019, 01:27:06 PM
one of the cameramen for the kc queer eye was my neighbor for 6 months or so.  we was v weird about telling me where they were shooting.  (AS IN HE WOULD NOT SAY [hmm]).  anyway, then another one of my friends' sister is PA on the damn show.  what is this, queer eye for this clams guy?  LMAO. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2019, 01:43:32 PM
one of the cameramen for the kc queer eye was my neighbor for 6 months or so.  we was v weird about telling me where they were shooting.  (AS IN HE WOULD NOT SAY [hmm]).  anyway, then another one of my friends' sister is PA on the damn show.  what is this, queer eye for this clams guy?  LMAO. 

I would love it if clams was on that show. not that there's anything wrong with polo shirts.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 07, 2019, 10:21:33 AM
March 25th KCI groundbreaking!  :Fbomb:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 07, 2019, 10:24:08 AM
that kc video is cringe to the max

the new midwest
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2019, 11:12:54 AM
that kc video is cringe to the max

the new midwest
I had to turn it off at the axe throwing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 25, 2019, 03:40:13 PM
they had mitch mc the groundbreaking  :lol:

https://fox4kc.com/2019/03/25/ceremonial-groundbreaking-signals-beginning-of-new-terminal-construction-at-kci/ (https://fox4kc.com/2019/03/25/ceremonial-groundbreaking-signals-beginning-of-new-terminal-construction-at-kci/)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 25, 2019, 03:54:23 PM
It's time to "PICK THE HAMMER UP"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 25, 2019, 05:29:06 PM
Sly got to run a jackhammer  :chainsaw: <- but jackhammer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2019, 07:09:10 PM
Phil gun to your head when does the first commercial flight takeoff from the new airport?  2024? Feel free to PM if you don’t want to deal with clams harassment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 25, 2019, 08:56:00 PM
Full speed ahead. 2Q23. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on March 28, 2019, 10:35:37 AM
There better be a construction cam for this beast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2019, 10:37:59 AM
There better be a construction cam for this beast

crane/plane combo pron  :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 29, 2019, 03:53:11 PM
https://twitter.com/kcmo/status/1111731605117247488
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 02, 2019, 12:07:15 PM
Who comes out of the primary? Gotta think Jolie is one. Canady seemed like a dark horse till the star endorsed her. Quinton? Glynn?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 02, 2019, 12:43:40 PM
I'm for the guy who's sign says "fighting for lost causes"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 02, 2019, 03:35:52 PM
tf

Quote
Dismembered horse found by disc golf player at Kessler Park in Kansas City

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article228739814.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article228739814.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 02, 2019, 03:42:22 PM
Winter is coming
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 02, 2019, 10:01:24 PM
Jolie!  :excited:

Bonus for Quinton!  :excited:

Got a great mayor coming at us after sly either way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 03, 2019, 06:47:13 AM
I will decide after clams provides a list of potential nicknames for both
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 03, 2019, 07:45:56 AM
 :thumbs: came here to request nicknames from 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 03, 2019, 08:26:02 AM
I mean Jolie has lie right in her name, it's not even fair
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 03, 2019, 09:23:45 AM
Yet clams has professed his love for Jolie in the past. Quite a pickle.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 03, 2019, 09:40:15 AM
I mean Jolie has lie right in her name, it's not even fair

it has to audibly sound good, not just look good on paper
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 03, 2019, 02:08:13 PM
jolie is my district representative and has recently conceded to a public works project i've been pushing her on for for years
lucas gets pak'd in lawrentucky and busted for it

seems like we're all winners today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 03, 2019, 02:20:18 PM
jolie came to my small timey neighborhood old people complain about stuff meeting like 2 years ago and was very gracious to everyone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 09, 2019, 02:14:59 PM
tivoli closing  :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2019, 02:20:18 PM
tivoli closing  :cry:

This was the text I got at 6:30 this morning!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2019, 03:36:50 PM
save your art house bullshit for the basement of hopcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 30, 2019, 12:19:20 PM
It sure rains a lot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 30, 2019, 01:59:15 PM
where did you move to, tbt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 30, 2019, 02:59:16 PM
Penthouse at Two Light :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 30, 2019, 03:20:10 PM
the price of those on their website is hopefully a lot more than you're paying.  what's the build quality like, what is parking like (how much, what sub-floor)?
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 30, 2019, 04:23:10 PM
I’m jk I don’t live there.  That was the highest most ridiculous price of anything I found during my home search.  It’s a ‘burbs life for me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2019, 04:42:12 PM
You can babysit for wackycat08's kickball nights
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2019, 09:20:23 AM
 :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 01, 2019, 10:51:47 AM
I’m jk I don’t live there.  That was the highest most ridiculous price of anything I found during my home search.  It’s a ‘burbs life for me

that was a really good joke, we all were rolling on the floor lmao's off here at the office for hours
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on May 03, 2019, 12:39:19 PM
https://twitter.com/JoyceKC/status/1124313163971866624
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2019, 01:04:35 PM
KCI termy construction webcam!

https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/kansascityairport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 03, 2019, 02:37:27 PM
Virus
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on May 03, 2019, 03:37:08 PM
KCI termy construction webcam!

https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/kansascityairport

I love how the maximum zoom level on this is 420%.  :bigtoke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 03, 2019, 06:08:42 PM
Virus

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 14, 2019, 12:21:08 PM
suddenly no theaters in between Alamo Drafthouse and AMC Ward Parkway


https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/source-cinemark-on-the-plaza-to-close (https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/source-cinemark-on-the-plaza-to-close)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2019, 12:29:36 PM
Ward pkwy is too busy already
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 14, 2019, 12:31:40 PM
Ward pkwy is too busy already
There's that TLB one in the village shops
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2019, 01:15:07 PM
suddenly no theaters in between Alamo Drafthouse and AMC Ward Parkway


https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/source-cinemark-on-the-plaza-to-close (https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/source-cinemark-on-the-plaza-to-close)

suddenly?  this has been known for a year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on May 14, 2019, 01:21:15 PM
It feels like much less than a year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2019, 02:13:39 PM
it's kind of like when Ryan LaFebrevervre says "...and now quickly oh and two"

like how the F else can you get to 0-2?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 14, 2019, 02:44:51 PM
it's all happening so fast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on May 14, 2019, 02:46:56 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing Sly call a time out here tbh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2019, 02:56:30 PM
honestly?  i cannot wait for this theater to close.  i'd like for all theaters in kc to close eventually, and they will.  but not soon enough. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on May 14, 2019, 03:12:54 PM
Hold on just a goddamn minute. We're all feeling major whiplash from the sudden news of the Plaza Cinemark. You can't just casually start talking about other theaters closing. That's mumped up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 14, 2019, 03:18:05 PM
i like movie theaters.  sad to see cinemark leaving to make way for another stupid clothes store on the plaza.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
q:  what is there to like about movie theaters? 

a:  the fact that they will one day shutter their doors for good.

it's so friggin' easy to troll theater buff lol

for all of you theater buffs in this thread, have you taken a second to realize that AMC, the biggest theater chain in the world, is headquartered in leawood?  have you considered that they don't give two shits about your community?  have you ever wondered why they won't open a true imax in KC, the metro that they're headquartered in?

tons of questions and very few answers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 14, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
wow what the plaza needed was another clothing store.  because brick and mortar clothing store aren't on the path to obsolescence. 

gmab
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2019, 04:29:45 PM
nice tap out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 14, 2019, 04:36:31 PM
I don't have to defend the majesty of the silver screen to some cretin like you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 14, 2019, 04:49:09 PM
wtf clams, seemed to enjoy yourself at opening night of bargegas  #bargegas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2019, 04:50:14 PM
My favorite thing about movie theaters is the gigantic screen and loud sounds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2019, 04:50:54 PM
I like that they serve booze drinks now too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 14, 2019, 04:51:45 PM
wtf clams, seemed to enjoy yourself at opening night of bargegas  #bargegas
he's just bitter that bargegas (which is admittedly a classic) bombed at the box office
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on May 14, 2019, 04:58:15 PM
Also probably mad that theaters won't show garbage like Temptation Island or whatever else he likes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 14, 2019, 05:07:06 PM
I don't go to movies often but I know a ton who do. Why are theatres going away exactly?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2019, 05:07:41 PM
My least favorite thing about movie theaters is that other people are there and my dog isn't
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2019, 05:08:13 PM
And they don't let you spark j's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2019, 05:09:31 PM
I don't go to movies often but I know a ton who do. Why are theatres going away exactly?

Because they lost 1200 seats of space

Theaters in general are doing great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2019, 08:00:53 PM
seems like a bunch of bitches crying in this thread.  if "teeters" were doing so great, i would guess that they wouldn't be folding up like a cheap tent.  i say, grow up.  in 10 years, these havens for unwatched children and disease will have gone the way of the dinosaur.  face the music.  or the movie, is more like it.  on your home screen.  not at the disease center cinemark or moldy amc.  of course, most of you scum have nothing better to do than watch end game.  sorry.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on May 14, 2019, 08:23:03 PM
Sonny and Duane are best friends. Enduring that awkward period of life between boyhood and manhood, the two pass their time the best way they know how -- with the movie house, football, and girls. Jacey is Duane's steady, wanted by every boy in school, and she knows it. Her daddy is rich and her mom is good looking and loose. It's the general consensus that whoever wins Jacey's heart will be set for life. But their city is dying a quiet death. As high school graduation approaches, they learn some difficult lessons about love, loneliness, and jealousy. Then folks stop attending the second-run features at the movie house and the time comes for the last picture show. With the closure of the movie house, the boys feel that a stage of their lives is closing. They stand uneasily on the threshold of the rest of their lives.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2019, 07:48:01 AM
It's like 93 degrees in this old pos airport. Hope the new one fixes that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 17, 2019, 12:19:22 PM
I’m sitting outside for lunch today! It finally quit raining :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2019, 12:30:51 PM
yes, today's EOI is definitely a 10
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 17, 2019, 12:36:12 PM
today is an 8.4 at best 'clams, it's hot and windy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2019, 12:51:48 PM
ok yeah i agree it is but there's two different scales in play.  i guarantee if i tweet lezak what the eoi is tonight, and i am going to, that he will say a 10.
now, to the layperson, yes the eoi is probably more like an 8.1
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 17, 2019, 01:01:30 PM
FULL SKIRT ALERT!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2019, 01:59:24 PM
Last night was definitely a 10 EOI.  Extra Virgin and their half price bottles of rose were going down very easy last night.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2019, 02:08:27 PM
I’m worried about you, Phil!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2019, 02:13:22 PM
I’m worried about you, Phil!

why bud?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2019, 02:14:51 PM
Living inside a bottle every night is no way to live, friend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2019, 02:16:24 PM
Finally tried Parlor last week. It was kinda cool. Had Brew Lab today with my bro who’s in town. It’s in OP. Very good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on May 17, 2019, 02:49:43 PM
Was a fantastic day for a three beer lunch on the front porch of my favorite pub. 82F and breezy. Just perfect. Beers are definitely helping with these marketing and sales reports. :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2019, 02:54:52 PM
Living inside a bottle every night is no way to live, friend.

I hear that. Last night was my first booze drink since Saturday. Tasted yummy!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2019, 02:56:07 PM
Finally tried Parlor last week. It was kinda cool. Had Brew Lab today with my bro who’s in town. It’s in OP. Very good.

Which place in parlor did you have? Clucker is my favorite so far.  The Detroit style pizza at Providence was awesome but it's a lot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2019, 03:00:52 PM
Was just messing with ya. Some sandwich place. Sourdough turkey but club. It was really good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
A butt club? Ewwww
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 17, 2019, 03:40:28 PM
my first time at parlor i had some empanadas, def better than some butt club
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 17, 2019, 03:54:21 PM
 :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 17, 2019, 07:09:49 PM
Clucker had butt chicken last I was there. Other place probably saw how successful they were
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 21, 2019, 06:10:05 PM
https://twitter.com/kcmikemahoney/status/1130968873380007938?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 21, 2019, 06:18:16 PM
they are just redoing the circle so you bypass terminal A.  it's not a big deal at all
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 21, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
https://twitter.com/kcmikemahoney/status/1130968873380007938?s=21

Props to Mahoney sending out a tweet with no misspellings or odd grammar.  Must have been before his Quaff visit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2019, 07:17:45 PM
Man the rhetoric is going to be amazing for the next 4 years. I can see clams standing in the terminal taking a selfie captioned “so this pile of crap is what 10 billion buys you”
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on May 21, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
https://twitter.com/kcmikemahoney/status/1130968873380007938?s=21

Props to Mahoney sending out a tweet with no misspellings or odd grammar.  Must have been before his Quaff visit.

Thank you Phil, this is exactly the kind of "Kansas City things" trash talk I crave.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on May 22, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1131178361114505216

 :eek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 22, 2019, 10:35:26 AM
Dumbest made up event ever. Nashville looked ridiculous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 22, 2019, 12:56:52 PM
Looks pretty fun tbh. Would take.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on May 22, 2019, 01:03:44 PM
Hell no, the NFL draft features some of the worst of humanity - people who actually care about the NFL Draft to the point of showing up to it in person wearing jerseys.  KC should avoid this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 22, 2019, 01:12:00 PM
Looks pretty fun tbh. Would take.

I cant even watch the draft on tv and you think you are going to stand on the Liberty memorial front lawn and watch it?

I'm all for KC getting whatever you know this man but this event is lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 22, 2019, 01:18:08 PM
Yeah guys, helping the KC economy sounds awful. A crap ton of people watch the draft, phil. It's not all about you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 22, 2019, 01:23:40 PM
I imagine it would be like when Nascar is in town but like a tenth of the people. I wouldn't even notice.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 22, 2019, 01:26:01 PM
Exactly!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 22, 2019, 01:30:25 PM
Yeah guys, helping the KC economy sounds awful. A crap ton of people watch the draft, phil. It's not all about you.

You just agreed with lib and my point that it wouldn't be a ton of people. I couldn't care less of my personal like in this, I love the NFL and all the hoopla they would try to inject into the event.

You try too hard to disagree with me wacky.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 22, 2019, 01:32:18 PM
i imagine it being like thousands of wackycat08's after a night of kick ball except no keyboards necessary
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 22, 2019, 01:49:09 PM
Yeah guys, helping the KC economy sounds awful. A crap ton of people watch the draft, phil. It's not all about you.

You just agreed with lib and my point that it wouldn't be a ton of people. I couldn't care less of my personal like in this, I love the NFL and all the hoopla they would try to inject into the event.

You try too hard to disagree with me wacky.
I honestly don't. I stopped pretty much interacting with you for a while to be fair. I just think it would be really cool and a lot of fun. I look forward to the draft every year and I'm not the type of fan you think of when you go to a Chiefs game. I get together for the draft sometimes with my college buddies. It's a fun event.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 22, 2019, 01:51:30 PM
They should just put it in PNL. It will pretty much be the same kind of ppl that attend World Cup games to get smashed once every 4 years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 22, 2019, 02:03:46 PM
They should just put it in PNL. It will pretty much be the same kind of ppl that attend World Cup games to get smashed once every 4 years.

To enforce your point the plan is round one at Union station because of the crowd size and subsequent days at p&l live block.

I just don't see people coming to KC for a draft party like a Nashville or Vegas. Those cities have turned themselves into a party cities. I'd be happy to be wrong in 2023 and KC has a ton of fans flying in to watch the draft.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 22, 2019, 09:37:33 PM
Congrats KC, we got the 2023 NFL Draft. Big deal! Could have been 2021, but we didn’t feel our new airport would be ready. Let’s don’t eff this up!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 22, 2019, 10:17:24 PM
I would go to the draft if KC got it  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on May 22, 2019, 10:18:59 PM
Y'all need to turn KC into a party destination in the next four years. Go!

Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 22, 2019, 10:28:07 PM
I'm excited KC got the draft and hope that in the next 4 years the city figures out how to accommodate a mass of people in front of Union Station. Imagine the bathroom situation at the Royals WS Parade and replace the happy families with Joey Toughguy in a Philly Jersey.  :Yuck:

I'll probably make a half hearted effort to go down to P&L during the day for the later rounds.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2019, 06:46:52 AM
Luckily they have a little more time to prepare. I don't imagine half the royals crowd will be on that hill tbh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2019, 10:10:14 AM
I mean we had half the city there that day. I think it will bring in more fans than you're estimating though. I bet it will be a decent turnout. BBQ, Beer, and the NFL Draft mix pretty well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2019, 11:26:51 AM
this thing is going to bring in hundreds of millions dollars to kc and slyin' titola can only crap on it, so sad.  almost makes me want to take back the streetcar that i bought him
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on May 23, 2019, 12:13:14 PM
this thing is going to bring in hundreds of millions dollars to kc and slyin' titola can only crap on it, so sad.  almost makes me want to take back the streetcar that i bought him

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Nashville announced this year's draft resulted in $133 million of direct spending in the city, so getting the draft is obviously great for a city's economy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2019, 12:34:23 PM
You gonna post a link, bucket?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on May 23, 2019, 12:39:20 PM
You gonna post a link, bucket?

https://www.titansonline.com/news/2019-nfl-draft-generates-a-record-in-direct-spending-in-nashville-of-133-million
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2019, 01:03:29 PM
You gonna post a link, bucket?

https://www.titansonline.com/news/2019-nfl-draft-generates-a-record-in-direct-spending-in-nashville-of-133-million

just wait until the master of fiscal management, slyin' hams james gets his greasy little nobby fingers on it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2019, 01:04:59 PM
4 more years? Yes plz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2019, 01:18:06 PM
So Nashville had 600k visitors? Lol, I figured this thing draws like 10k meatheads and/or kietzman type nerds.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2019, 01:18:42 PM
this thing is going to bring in hundreds of millions dollars to kc and slyin' titola can only crap on it, so sad.  almost makes me want to take back the streetcar that i bought him

I'm jacked it's coming. I think anybody who thinks the impact will be what we saw in Nashville is  :Rusty:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2019, 01:21:13 PM
They should give the host city first pick in addition to their other picks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2019, 01:21:40 PM
So Nashville had 600k visitors? Lol, I figured this thing draws like 10k meatheads and/or kietzman type nerds.

Talk about a plaza lighting crowd overestimation.

600k over the 3 days came to the event they say.

BTW Dallas held this in the Jerry dome and it was what 20% full? That seems more reasonable crowd estimation for this event.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2019, 01:27:52 PM
comparing crowd size by city is pretty pointless.  there's literally nothing else to do here other than LARP.  kc will have over a million at this event and produce news specials commemorating the crowd size.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2019, 01:35:19 PM
I mean, they had cameras here because some national soccer tournament was going on and PNL was packed. This thing will definitely be huge.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 23, 2019, 02:09:27 PM
comparing crowd size by city is pretty pointless.  there's literally nothing else to do here other than LARP.  kc will have over a million at this event and produce news specials commemorating the crowd size.

Will there be shirts I can purchased to let people know I was there in the crowd?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2019, 02:30:05 PM
the jerry dome is like 1.5 hrs from dallas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 23, 2019, 02:35:09 PM
the jerry dome is like 1.5 hrs from dallas
Google Maps tells me 25 minutes from Downtown/Uptown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2019, 02:49:08 PM
the jerry dome is like 1.5 hrs from dallas
Google Maps tells me 25 minutes from Downtown/Uptown.

that's a great point spracs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 23, 2019, 08:19:26 PM
Apparently barfing in the Hy-Vee parking lot is a thing here. This would have NEVER happened at the MHK Hy-Vee.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2019, 09:08:15 AM
Wut
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 24, 2019, 09:35:28 AM
I was leaving Hy-Vee and someone was barfing in the parking lot...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2019, 09:38:24 AM
Yikes. Independence location?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 24, 2019, 09:40:54 AM
That’s the thing, it was at a really nice Hy-Vee in the ‘burbs.  I was pretty shocked.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2019, 09:49:09 AM
Was it the bar one?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 24, 2019, 09:53:58 AM
Don’t they all have bars in them now?  It was the 95th and Antioch one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2019, 10:10:53 AM
Speaking of the hyvee bar, I heard a radio commercial that wahlburgers AND hyvee market grill are bogo 1/2 off burgs on Wednesdays  :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2019, 10:15:58 AM
i strongly dislike hyvee.  not as much as hen house but still a large amount.  the 95th and Antioch locashe is at the top of the hate list.  that parking lot is pure crap.


Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2019, 10:18:25 AM
Don’t they all have bars in them now?  It was the 95th and Antioch one.
Yeah that's the one by me and I think there might be like two hyvee bars in KC. Maybe the person was just sick though.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2019, 10:19:51 AM
Speaking of the hyvee bar, I heard a radio commercial that wahlburgers AND hyvee market grill are bogo 1/2 off burgs on Wednesdays  :Woot:
:sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2019, 10:23:57 AM
Anything good and new downtown? Taking the Mrs to lunch today.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2019, 10:56:48 AM
Anything good and new downtown? Taking the Mrs to lunch today.

city barrel brewery at 19th & Cherry.  I haven't eaten there yet but I hear good things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 24, 2019, 10:57:28 AM
i strongly dislike hyvee.  not as much as hen house but still a large amount.  the 95th and Antioch locashe is at the top of the hate list.  that parking lot is pure crap.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2019, 11:02:53 AM
i strongly dislike hyvee.  not as much as hen house but still a large amount.  the 95th and Antioch locashe is at the top of the hate list.  that parking lot is pure crap.

very on brand for this thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2019, 11:06:06 AM
Why would anyone hate hen house?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 24, 2019, 11:13:26 AM
i strongly dislike hyvee.  not as much as hen house but still a large amount.  the 95th and Antioch locashe is at the top of the hate list.  that parking lot is pure crap.




Its LOL bad but I keep going anyway :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 24, 2019, 11:16:02 AM
i strongly dislike hyvee.  not as much as hen house but still a large amount.  the 95th and Antioch locashe is at the top of the hate list.  that parking lot is pure crap.

very on brand for this thread

Phil, I'm totally down with your midwestern parking shtick, but we're talking suburbia in a city that has no substantial mass transit system.   That shopping center where Hy-Vee is built can trace it's origins back 50 years, so it's not like it's some sort of 189th Terr Beige McMansion strip mall.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 24, 2019, 11:17:40 AM
I didn’t think the parking lot was that bad.  I didn’t know that hyvee was a hotbed of gE shoppers and parking lot haters tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 24, 2019, 11:19:02 AM
I didn’t think the parking lot was that bad.  I didn’t know that hyvee was a hotbed of gE shoppers and parking lot haters tho

My parents live right down the street from that Hy-Vee
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2019, 11:19:25 AM
Csb: I personally know the hyvee cfo  :Chirp:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2019, 11:21:14 AM
i strongly dislike hyvee.  not as much as hen house but still a large amount.  the 95th and Antioch locashe is at the top of the hate list.  that parking lot is pure crap.

very on brand for this thread

Phil, I'm totally down with your midwestern parking shtick, but we're talking suburbia in a city that has no substantial mass transit system.   That shopping center where Hy-Vee is built can trace it's origins back 50 years, so it's not like it's some sort of 189th Terr Beige McMansion strip mall.

I don't follow your point.  The parking lot looks totally fine on google maps (not to mention half full when the streetview car drove through and satellite flew over it)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 24, 2019, 11:24:05 AM
i strongly dislike hyvee.  not as much as hen house but still a large amount.  the 95th and Antioch locashe is at the top of the hate list.  that parking lot is pure crap.

very on brand for this thread

Phil, I'm totally down with your midwestern parking shtick, but we're talking suburbia in a city that has no substantial mass transit system.   That shopping center where Hy-Vee is built can trace it's origins back 50 years, so it's not like it's some sort of 189th Terr Beige McMansion strip mall.

I don't follow your point.  The parking lot looks totally fine on google maps (not to mention half full when the streetview car drove through and satellite flew over it)

Phil, I was just in KC and had to make several trips over there, it's a crap show, friend.

The previous trip in March I had to go over there to pick up some things for a family event, a Saturday, KU was on TV and oddly enough the store will full of KU fans . . . very weird.   I thought it would be a great time to go figuring KU T-Shirt Nation would be parked in front of their 32 inch Emerson's watching the game, but nope.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2019, 11:25:34 AM
Dax we should pak when you're in kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 24, 2019, 11:28:18 AM
Dax we should pak when you're in kc

I'll let you know next time.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2019, 11:31:12 AM
Kansas City things thread is at peak when grocery store parking lots are the topic. 


 :peek: I've been to that store 3 times I think and I can't remember being stressed out about parking and I'm not good at parking.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 24, 2019, 11:31:49 AM
Can you imagine growing up to become the person complaining about parking in a suburban grocery store parking lot? Yeesh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2019, 11:37:28 AM
Phil, I was just in KC and had to make several trips over there, it's a crap show, friend.


inject
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 24, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
Can you imagine growing up to become the person complaining about parking in a suburban grocery store parking lot? Yeesh.

Anecdotal observations are not life long complaints.

Have you ever read reviews online and what people lose their minds over?  Mainly done by people who are relatively young.   

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2019, 12:26:51 PM
Anything good and new downtown? Taking the Mrs to lunch today.

city barrel brewery at 19th & Cherry.  I haven't eaten there yet but I hear good things.
Dang. Sorry I missed this. We ended up at the new local pig location. It was very good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2019, 12:41:38 PM
Anything good and new downtown? Taking the Mrs to lunch today.

city barrel brewery at 19th & Cherry.  I haven't eaten there yet but I hear good things.
Dang. Sorry I missed this. We ended up at the new local pig location. It was very good.

Also solid choice.  Busy?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2019, 01:05:57 PM
Yes. Super busy. It was delicious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 24, 2019, 01:10:17 PM
Yes. Super busy. It was delicious.

Did you do the double play with Betty Rae's for ice cream?

Have a good weekend wacky and Ms. Wacky.  Good start!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2019, 01:37:48 PM
 :thumbs: We did not, but we walked around the River Market and got some seasonings. You as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 30, 2019, 03:35:00 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article230952978.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article230952978.html)

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“McCoy’s was the first concept we did together and it was a great concept. It was still doing well but we thought it had run its course,” Westphal said. “We thought we could do better.”

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2019, 03:40:17 PM
That sounds horrible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 30, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
i'm just really confused by that. everyone seemed to really like McCoy's and it was a staple on that corner.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 30, 2019, 03:49:56 PM
I get scrapping the brewery part. It was never that good of beer from what I remember but yeah why not just keep the name and menu?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 30, 2019, 03:54:55 PM
wtf
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 30, 2019, 03:58:37 PM
- what should we name this enormous restaurant and patio located at the central intersection of a popular bar district?

- how about "hideaway"?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 30, 2019, 04:00:59 PM
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owners James Westphal and Mark Kelpe



(https://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Screen-Shot-2015-01-28-at-6.21.30-PM-800x380.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 30, 2019, 04:03:31 PM
they should have called it John Kaw's Bomb Stop
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 30, 2019, 09:22:29 PM
I mean they were into frisking customers so
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 03, 2019, 10:39:59 AM
https://twitter.com/BigSlickKC/status/1135555576698757120

You guys, they got Selena!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 03, 2019, 10:42:11 AM
more like they got Pat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2019, 10:44:08 AM
I'd bet 95% of KC that goes to that event is more excited about Pat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 03, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
You guys can go to watch, Pat. Not me, though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 03, 2019, 10:50:37 AM
i'd go for adam scott, nate bergatze and haley joel osment  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on June 03, 2019, 10:56:02 AM
Wtf is BigSlickKC?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 03, 2019, 11:00:15 AM
Wtf is BigSlickKC?
Charity thing for Children's Mercy.  They bring in a bunch of celebrities and do things around the city (bowling, royals softball game, etc.) and culminates in a big poker tournament. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 03, 2019, 11:54:50 AM
It's a great event for raising money that involves people who think they're funny and talented but they're really not funny nor talented, but they are popular for the most part, so I'll give  them that.




Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2019, 12:31:27 PM
Sarah chalke  :love:

https://bigslickkc.org/2019-guests/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 03, 2019, 12:53:57 PM
It's a great event for raising money that involves people who think they're funny and talented but they're really not funny nor talented, but they are popular for the most part, so I'll give  them that.
Give some examples of funny people, Dax.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2019, 01:20:03 PM
i'm going to snag selena's pelt when she's here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2019, 03:24:15 PM
It's a great event for raising money that involves people who think they're funny and talented but they're really not funny nor talented, but they are popular for the most part, so I'll give  them that.

If Pat Mahomes is not talented, then just who the hell is?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 03, 2019, 03:38:09 PM
It's a great event for raising money that involves people who think they're funny and talented but they're really not funny nor talented, but they are popular for the most part, so I'll give  them that.
Give some examples of funny people, Dax.

I would rather tell you who is not all that talented or funny:

David Koechner
Rob Riggle
Paul Rudd
Eric Stonestreet
Jason Sudekis

Albeit, I will give a little tip of the hat to Stoney for being a very believable Cam on Modern Family, albeit I haven't watched an episode in years, so that may have changed.

The rest is all forced and contrived and not funny.



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 03, 2019, 03:58:02 PM
It's a great event for raising money that involves people who think they're funny and talented but they're really not funny nor talented, but they are popular for the most part, so I'll give  them that.
Give some examples of funny people, Dax.

I would rather tell you who is not all that talented or funny:

David Koechner
Rob Riggle
Paul Rudd
Eric Stonestreet
Jason Sudekis

Albeit, I will give a little tip of the hat to Stoney for being a very believable Cam on Modern Family, albeit I haven't watched an episode in years, so that may have changed.

The rest is all forced and contrived and not funny.
Man.  I want a list of dax-certified funnymen.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2019, 04:03:29 PM
Lol at not liking Rudd or Sudekis
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2019, 04:14:19 PM
Larry the Cable.guy is def on the dax funny guy list.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 03, 2019, 04:34:24 PM
we went to the auction last year.   a little suprisingly less fun than expected.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2019, 04:38:50 PM
in dax's defense, do any of those guys do standup?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2019, 04:49:41 PM
Sudekis did SNL and hewas awesome at it. :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 03, 2019, 05:27:29 PM
Koechner was fantastic in Thank You for Smoking. V. talented and funny.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 03, 2019, 05:30:03 PM
Okay, I'll buy Sudekis, in fact now that I look back, I'd put him at the top of the list.   Just his dancing alone on the "What's up with that" skit qualifies. 

Riggle, Rudd are not funny.  Koechner is a decent actor and I guess pretty funny..   Riggle and Rudd are awful and no one will level set with them about that cold hard reality. 

Larry the Cable Guy?  Is proof that if you're around long enough you will eventually say something funny. 





Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2019, 08:35:50 AM
i went to the adam sandler show last night and it was irl lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 05, 2019, 09:30:56 AM
Squawk! :Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 05, 2019, 01:30:39 PM
I’ve really been enjoying Kansas City now that it hasn’t been raining every day!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: catastrophe on June 07, 2019, 07:02:50 PM
So who in KC, MO is gonna try out this new delivery of groceries straight to your refrigerator thing??
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 07, 2019, 08:13:02 PM
So who in KC, MO is gonna try out this new delivery of groceries straight to your refrigerator thing??

Haven’t heard of this but I’m listening...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: catastrophe on June 07, 2019, 08:45:25 PM
www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2019/06/07/walmart-plans-grocery-home-delivery-pilot-that.amp.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 07, 2019, 08:52:54 PM
I feel like this will sell better to the Whole Foods crowd than the Wal-Mart one
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 07, 2019, 09:00:08 PM
Oh, yeah, gross. Never mind.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slackcat on June 08, 2019, 06:43:16 AM
Carvana vending machine. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2019, 01:08:49 PM
A previous K-State kicker tried to sell me this idea like 10 years ago. It was some pyramid scheme and I respectfully lol’d my way out of the meeting. Hope he’s doing well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2019, 02:39:34 PM
Per the KC Star, Big Slick not woke enough.

T&P's to those that support it.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 08, 2019, 02:53:02 PM
Lol. What a hill to die on, Dax. eff You charity fund! eff you KC! Can you hear me from my trailer yet in Alabama, you fly over country crap heads?!!! -Dax
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2019, 08:29:28 PM
Savage zapping
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 08, 2019, 10:01:27 PM
Lol. What a hill to die on, Dax. eff You charity fund! eff you KC! Can you hear me from my trailer yet in Alabama, you fly over country crap heads?!!! -Dax

I believe your ire is misdirected
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 10, 2019, 12:57:15 PM
alright let's talk property values - got a friendly letter from the city saying i owe $1,000 more than last year in property taxes because they raised the assessed value by like 100k. it appears on Next Door that i am not alone. madness!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2019, 01:17:06 PM
Congrats bud!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 10, 2019, 01:21:58 PM
Congrats bud!

no, denied
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 10, 2019, 01:56:31 PM
someone has to pay for the streetcar, why would you expect it to be anyone but you?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 10, 2019, 02:00:23 PM
someone has to pay for the streetcar, why would you expect it to be anyone but you?

Airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 10, 2019, 02:52:42 PM
alright let's talk property values - got a friendly letter from the city saying i owe $1,000 more than last year in property taxes because they raised the assessed value by like 100k. it appears on Next Door that i am not alone. madness!

same but i would also like to say we should have a next door thread. that place is unbelievable levels of HAS ANYBODY SEEN A RED VAN THAT SOMETIMES PARKS ON THEIR STREET ALSO I NEED A GOOD PLUMBER AND ALSO I FOUND A CAT
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on June 10, 2019, 03:33:29 PM
I love the LoL I get from Next Door.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 10, 2019, 07:22:49 PM
My condo went up 32%  :dubious:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 10, 2019, 08:07:26 PM
alright let's talk property values - got a friendly letter from the city saying i owe $1,000 more than last year in property taxes because they raised the assessed value by like 100k. it appears on Next Door that i am not alone. madness!

Same. If you want good (public) schools this is the cost.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 10, 2019, 08:38:49 PM
alright let's talk property values - got a friendly letter from the city saying i owe $1,000 more than last year in property taxes because they raised the assessed value by like 100k. it appears on Next Door that i am not alone. madness!

Same. If you want good (public) schools this is the cost.


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I dont think SD is up to date on the KCMO school district....
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 10, 2019, 08:55:05 PM
I’m not up to date on where most of you live


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2019, 08:40:19 AM
On the radio they had a lady down the road from mocat who's assessment went from $81k to $271k  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2019, 09:54:22 AM
from next door:

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Mine went from 88,000 to 263,000. I've been involved in real estate for 18 years (both as a realtor and an investor) and I've not seen anything like this before. I'm definitely going to file an appeal.

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Ours went up 600% if you can believe that.  We have a 6 mon notice to adjust our budget.  We live in Squier Park.  What gives?

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So I spoke with a friend of mine who lives in Jackson county and he's a real estate attorney. He recommends to write to the following people to complain about this:
Representative Burnett [email protected]
Representative Anderson [email protected]
Representative Williams [email protected]

Apparently, the increase was "only" supposed to be 20 to 30%. The same thing happened 5 years ago. If enough people write to complain, this will automatically trigger a county-wide audit. Please make sure to write to them.

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Yup, ours increased 46k from last year. That's an extra $1,000 from last year's taxes. I dont understand how the city expects people to pays thousands more per year with short notice. That isn't acceptable.

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Home valuation went from 86k to 390k  (1300 to 6000+ estimated taxes)
:sdeek:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 11, 2019, 10:00:32 AM
Hope you all can stick it to big daddy govt on this one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 11, 2019, 10:00:48 AM
Looks like sale prices of homes have gone up in Squier Park a lot recently, so... :dunno:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2019, 10:04:32 AM
damn you, streetcar!  you've been too successful! gentrification here we come!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 11, 2019, 10:05:13 AM
#teamclams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on June 11, 2019, 11:20:31 AM
Is Kansas City broke?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 11, 2019, 08:52:55 PM
I looked into appealing mine.  It lines up to comps.  Guess I'm stuck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 13, 2019, 10:15:32 AM
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Good morning 'taterblast,

Thank you for contacting our office. I encourage you to forward your concerns to County Executive Frank White @ FWhite@Jacksongov.org and Director of Assessment Gail McCann- Beatty @ GMBeatty@Jacksongov.org.

We are just as baffled as you regarding the large increases in property values and are working to get answers. We were told most increases would be around 15%. In the meantime, if you have any issues with the appeals process, please contact me directly @ [redacted].

Warm regards,

***** ******

Chief of Staff
Office of Crystal Williams
Jackson County Legislature
2nd District At-Large
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 13, 2019, 10:31:33 AM
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Good morning 'taterblast,

Thank you for contacting our office. I encourage you to forward your concerns to County Executive Frank White @ FWhite@Jacksongov.org and Director of Assessment Gail McCann- Beatty @ GMBeatty@Jacksongov.org.

We are just as baffled as you regarding the large increases in property values and are working to get answers. We were told most increases would be around 15%. In the meantime, if you have any issues with the appeals process, please contact me directly @ [redacted].

Warm regards,

***** ******

Chief of Staff
Office of Crystal Williams
Jackson County Legislature
2nd District At-Large

They thought 15% was reasonable?   :eek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2019, 10:43:10 AM
They should be valued at whatever they are selling for. It doesn't matter what seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 13, 2019, 10:46:36 AM
yeah i would love to see them sell my house at the value the stamped on it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2019, 01:34:44 PM
the new assessed value for mine is like exactly what it appraised for like 2 years ago so i guess i can't complain
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2019, 02:14:21 PM
They should be valued at whatever they are selling for. It doesn't matter what seems reasonable.

Yeah, I’m guessing the root cause is they haven’t been assessed in a long time or not correctly assessed.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2019, 02:20:37 PM
JaxCo reassesses every 2 years if memory serves.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 13, 2019, 02:21:35 PM
JaxCo reassesses every 2 years if memory serves.

white county name, white county shame
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2019, 02:25:30 PM
if slyin' hams hadn't given away billions in tax revenue, the county would not be in a position of having to overestimate our homes.  sad to see things come full circle but hey, money grows on trees in slyin' hams world.  (trees = the back of the working man)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 13, 2019, 02:28:14 PM
really makes you think
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2019, 02:28:37 PM
JaxCo reassesses every 2 years if memory serves.

white county name, white county shame

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2019, 02:46:53 PM
if slyin' hams hadn't given away billions in tax revenue, the county would not be in a position of having to overestimate our homes.  sad to see things come full circle but hey, money grows on trees in slyin' hams world.  (trees = the back of the working man)

Slyin now runs county govt too!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2019, 02:54:28 PM
JaxCo reassesses every 2 years if memory serves.

white county name, white county shame

omg  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2019, 02:59:15 PM
Who is your mayor next week KCMO? Jolie!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2019, 04:30:01 PM
with all of the negative ads that jolie has been running i'm guessing she will win.  MKCGA.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2019, 04:39:08 PM
I irl didn't even know this election was so soon until I got the voter card thing in the mail. Prob still won't vote but if I do I'm writing in 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2019, 05:14:36 PM
The star surprised me by endorsing Q
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 13, 2019, 05:17:54 PM
Whatever happened to Bargain Bin Beto?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2019, 07:00:49 PM
with all of the negative ads that jolie has been running i'm guessing she will win.  MKCGA.

you mean the carpenters union?  Yeah not a fan.  I like Quinton too.  I thought you were a big (tallness wise) Jolie fan?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 13, 2019, 08:27:50 PM
with all of the negative ads that jolie has been running i'm guessing she will win.  MKCGA.

you mean the carpenters union?  Yeah not a fan.  I like Quinton too.  I thought you were a big (tallness wise) Jolie fan?
there’ are several negative attacks her campaign has made
regardless right now i think kc needs quinton more than jolie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 13, 2019, 08:33:16 PM
with all of the negative ads that jolie has been running i'm guessing she will win.  MKCGA.

you mean the carpenters union?  Yeah not a fan.  I like Quinton too.  I thought you were a big (tallness wise) Jolie fan?
there’ are several negative attacks her campaign has made
regardless right now i think kc needs quinton more than jolie

Jolie turncoat. After all she did for you. Shame. Sad. Whatever dax says.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 14, 2019, 01:26:48 PM
So Mrs Wacky and I's 3rd wedding anniversary is going to be on Monday, but i'll be out of town for the new job, so she has some surprise for me today to be ready for. First thing I did was check Citizen Copes tour schedule and the Royals. Both a no go, both out of town. So then I looked up events in KC this weekend and saw Boulevardia is going on. Do you think this is it? And if so, why would my pregnant wife subject herself to such a thing. To be continued... What could it be? Not dinner at Antons at 4 PM, right? That would make no sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 14, 2019, 01:30:53 PM
NSFW things
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2019, 01:32:23 PM
I think this means you're supposed to have a surprise too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 14, 2019, 01:34:19 PM
I bought her a new apple watch and soon to be a new car, I think i'm covered.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on June 14, 2019, 01:34:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FKYDr08_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
Those aren't surprises
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2019, 01:42:04 PM
lol wait, 420 is wacky?  in my head I thought it was the 20yardstick.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 14, 2019, 01:42:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FKYDr08_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/incredulous.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 14, 2019, 01:50:00 PM
twins
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 14, 2019, 02:35:50 PM
how did you buy a soon to be new car?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 14, 2019, 02:46:58 PM
how did you buy a soon to be new car?
2021 preorder!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 14, 2019, 02:48:01 PM
dayum what type of sled is mrs seriouscat69 going to cruise around in
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 14, 2019, 04:38:32 PM
She got me fitted for Callaway irons!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 14, 2019, 05:03:30 PM
That's a nice surprise!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 14, 2019, 05:50:27 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 15, 2019, 08:47:49 AM
So this 420 guy is sleeping with wackycats wife? I'm not okay with this.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 18, 2019, 09:12:41 PM
It's Lucas!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2019, 09:49:14 PM
It's Lucas!

I was team Jolie but pretty happy Quinton was the other option.  Go Q! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 18, 2019, 10:11:43 PM
It's Lucas!
glad to see him get a shot.  also glad that the voters sent slyin a giant FU and are draining the swamp.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 18, 2019, 10:19:27 PM
Eric Bunch won the 4th!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 19, 2019, 11:17:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9b5gfjUcAAztfd?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2019, 11:19:19 AM
 :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2019, 11:38:55 AM
Worst aluminium foil ever.  McDonald's UK got our back

https://twitter.com/McDonaldsUK/status/1140944631112318976?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 19, 2019, 11:42:58 AM
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Yeehaw!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 19, 2019, 11:45:03 AM
YEEHAW for this EMAW!!!!!!



YEEEEEEEMAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 19, 2019, 11:51:31 AM
Kickin' it up with that smokey steakhouse sauce. Yeehaw!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 19, 2019, 11:56:13 AM
nothing screams KC, like steak sauce.  YUMMY YUMMY YEEHAW!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on June 19, 2019, 12:23:05 PM
Damn kc hayseeds

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2019, 12:26:35 PM
kansas citians' reaction to that mcdonald's announcement shows exactly how insecure they are
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 19, 2019, 12:29:29 PM
own it fellow kansas citians, we love steak and steak sauce, and cows.  yeehaw or gtfo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2019, 12:38:40 PM
kansas citians' reaction to that mcdonald's announcement shows exactly how insecure they are

Yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2019, 12:47:01 PM
Just heard Q on the radio and liked what I heard. Glad I voted for him and tossed the slyin james cartel out on their ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 19, 2019, 12:49:45 PM
His scooting to Arrowhead days are over.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 19, 2019, 12:49:51 PM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/1141078492882374656
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 19, 2019, 01:06:26 PM
Wrong side of the road smack! :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2019, 02:05:25 PM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/1141078492882374656

smdh @ slyin' hams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on June 19, 2019, 07:10:11 PM
i think there are some people who say yeehaw tho for sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 20, 2019, 09:31:34 PM
https://twitter.com/NWSKansasCity/status/1141873222373167104

 :eek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 20, 2019, 09:49:04 PM
https://twitter.com/NWSKansasCity/status/1141873222373167104

 :eek:

Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on June 22, 2019, 07:30:42 AM
https://twitter.com/baierkate/status/1141735869679919104?s=21


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2019, 02:34:24 PM
lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on June 23, 2019, 09:01:31 AM
Amazing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 27, 2019, 10:07:47 PM
What does everyone think of this?

https://cityscenekc.com/strata-office-tower-financing-plan-endorsed-by-council-committee/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 27, 2019, 10:24:01 PM
Do it.  Now is not the time to step off the gas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 27, 2019, 10:27:38 PM
It's kind of funky looking and seems like the parking garage is gonna be on top of the existing building BUT I also think we should do it.  Wow, this is the first time I feel a part of these things now that I live in the KC metro('burbs)!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2019, 03:40:53 PM
definitively support it, cool idea too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2019, 03:47:35 PM
i should also add that there's no way they're going to pull those expected rents to break even but whatever, we need to keep growing the class a space downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 29, 2019, 10:15:43 AM
The Starbucks story of wanting to move lots of workers here on short notice and passing due to no space is a good reminder no city should want 80%+ occupancy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2019, 11:58:54 AM
That break even rate is pretty lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2019, 06:02:57 PM


The Starbucks story of wanting to move lots of workers here on short notice and passing due to no space is a good reminder no city should want 80%+ occupancy.


You are the dax of this thread, like I have no idea what you said here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 29, 2019, 06:11:25 PM


The Starbucks story of wanting to move lots of workers here on short notice and passing due to no space is a good reminder no city should want 80%+ occupancy.


You are the dax of this thread, like I have no idea what you said here

What does everyone think of this?

https://cityscenekc.com/strata-office-tower-financing-plan-endorsed-by-council-committee/

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Last year, Starbucks decided not to locate a large employee operation in downtown partly because of the lack of readily available high quality office space.

The downtown office vacancy rate is currently 7.7 percent, its lowest in 20 years, according to the Downtown Council, and it’s been almost 30 years since the last multi-tenant tower was built there.

It’s like 5 posts above man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on June 29, 2019, 07:58:09 PM


The Starbucks story of wanting to move lots of workers here on short notice and passing due to no space is a good reminder no city should want 80%+ occupancy.


You are the dax of this thread, like I have no idea what you said here

It seems pretty clear to me that someone posted a story about a potential new office building & Phil brought up that Starbucks looked to move some positions to KC but KC's office occupancy is too high & Starbucks was worried about finding office space.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 03, 2019, 10:06:46 AM
Progress!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190703/19e949b5000772fca2865deb03d621c6.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 03, 2019, 10:10:55 AM
Progress!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190703/19e949b5000772fca2865deb03d621c6.jpg)

I’m headed there in a few hours! :Woot:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 03, 2019, 03:11:14 PM
I was there Monday and took a photo of the ridiculous rental car center

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190703/16a9de017eaae11635f3175c3ad7d043.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 03, 2019, 03:14:20 PM
That terrazzo floor is actually p boss
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 03, 2019, 03:15:55 PM
i've played in that gym before
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 03, 2019, 03:26:54 PM
that has the open space of all 3 terminals combined
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 03, 2019, 03:33:30 PM
That terrazzo floor is actually p boss

the river goes down the stairs!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 03, 2019, 03:51:40 PM
Blue Angels downtown is my favorite event to live and work downtown. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 03, 2019, 04:03:17 PM
Blue Angels downtown is my favorite event to live and work downtown. 

yeesh pretty low bar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 03, 2019, 04:16:43 PM
blue angels?  more like satan's angels.  do you know how much eco-damage that needlessly wasted jet fuel does to the environment? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 03, 2019, 04:17:49 PM
Blue Angels downtown is my favorite event to live and work downtown.

They flew over me on my way to the airport a couple times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on July 03, 2019, 04:26:40 PM
Blue angels are flying country stampede.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 03, 2019, 05:56:25 PM
Blue Angels downtown is my favorite event to live and work downtown. 

yeesh pretty low bar

This is true.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 03, 2019, 05:57:09 PM
Blue angels are flying country stampede.

If they move the blue Angels to Topeka this weekend so help me. Oh wait I won't be here. Carry on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 03, 2019, 09:47:11 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190704/682502f14c946b8379cf76b9ae1fafe1.jpg)

Got a pic of them getting ready to take off from the downtown airport this morning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on July 06, 2019, 04:34:46 PM
https://twitter.com/NegroLeagueMan/status/1147255411407503360

I didn't know Satchel Paige lived in Kansas City!  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 06, 2019, 04:58:42 PM
Nice, screw the crime rate sitch, let’s spend more taxpayer  $ on worthless crap. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 06, 2019, 04:59:42 PM


https://twitter.com/NegroLeagueMan/status/1147255411407503360

I didn't know Satchel Paige

Sames
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: schreds21 on July 06, 2019, 08:34:28 PM
Pretty sure he pitched for the Monarchs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 06, 2019, 09:24:31 PM
hope it’s high six figures or they won’t have enough money to fix that crap hole.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 07, 2019, 07:24:30 AM
Nice, screw the crime rate sitch, let’s spend more taxpayer  $ on worthless crap. :thumbs:

Oh no!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: slackcat on July 08, 2019, 05:14:43 AM
150k should keep the grass mowed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 08, 2019, 08:45:30 PM
Kmbz fired Jonathan wier  :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 10, 2019, 10:48:46 PM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

those are both smaller cities than KCMO, both in population and (maybe more importantly?) sq mileage

kcmo 481k / 315 sq miles
atlanta 472k / 133 sq miles
minneapolis 413k / 54 sq miles

how

i have absolutely zero #agenda here, i was just commenting on phil's comparison cities. i would think population and amount of physical area that a PD has to patrol are factors in its budget, but who knows? i just like geography stats, man.

https://twitter.com/staubio/status/1149145088489996288?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 10, 2019, 11:10:51 PM
#shrinkthecity #lessismore
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 10, 2019, 11:13:58 PM
St. Louis is still reaping the rewards of not annexing new land.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 10, 2019, 11:54:09 PM
#shrinkthecity #lessismore

Yes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 10, 2019, 11:56:00 PM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

those are both smaller cities than KCMO, both in population and (maybe more importantly?) sq mileage

kcmo 481k / 315 sq miles
atlanta 472k / 133 sq miles
minneapolis 413k / 54 sq miles

how

i have absolutely zero #agenda here, i was just commenting on phil's comparison cities. i would think population and amount of physical area that a PD has to patrol are factors in its budget, but who knows? i just like geography stats, man.

https://twitter.com/staubio/status/1149145088489996288?s=19

I will also say our way too big city in the nether regions doesn't need much police patrol action but yes it does impact budget and response times when those KCMO/Liberty calls need service.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2019, 02:18:36 AM
#shrinkthecity #lessismore

Yes.
lol. They don’t have crap going on for them visitor wise, especially if you’re a advocate for selling downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2019, 06:49:02 AM
#shrinkthecity #lessismore

Yes.
lol. They don’t have crap going on for them visitor wise, especially if you’re a advocate for selling downtown.

I don't know who "they" is or what they have to do with these two posts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2019, 07:53:58 AM
I was responding to ben ji's St. Louis comment. relax, tooseriousforKCcatTitola
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2019, 08:07:54 AM
I was responding to ben ji's St. Louis comment. relax, tooseriousforKCcatTitola

Thanks for clarifying 420notknowhowblogsworkcat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 11, 2019, 08:50:36 AM
Minneapolis $179MM for police for 2018. Atlanta $218MM for police in 2017. KCMO $254MM for police for 18-19. Whaaaa?

How much more should they get clams?

those are both smaller cities than KCMO, both in population and (maybe more importantly?) sq mileage

kcmo 481k / 315 sq miles
atlanta 472k / 133 sq miles
minneapolis 413k / 54 sq miles

how

i have absolutely zero #agenda here, i was just commenting on phil's comparison cities. i would think population and amount of physical area that a PD has to patrol are factors in its budget, but who knows? i just like geography stats, man.

https://twitter.com/staubio/status/1149145088489996288?s=19

I will also say our way too big city in the nether regions doesn't need much police patrol action but yes it does impact budget and response times when those KCMO/Liberty calls need service.
I have very little knowledge about how KCMO police operate, but aren't there precincts or divisions or something?  It's not like patrols out in Martin City are getting called up to take care of stuff by the airport, right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2019, 09:02:49 AM
matt staub, noted criminologist, has weighed in
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2019, 09:04:19 AM
the pushback from everybody to a very simple observation is weird
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2019, 09:07:11 AM
give everything north of the river to the wildlings, is what i'm trying to say
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2019, 09:10:56 AM
I have very little knowledge about how KCMO police operate, but aren't there precincts or divisions or something?  It's not like patrols out in Martin City are getting called up to take care of stuff by the airport, right?

the fact that the airport and martin city are both part of the same 315 sq mi city *might* mean that KCPD has to have more precincts/divisions/officers than, say, the 54 sq mi Minneapolis PD.
maybe it doesn't mean that! but i think probably it does!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kslim on July 11, 2019, 09:14:54 AM
my question is, why was he in the back of the cruiser? I thought most ride alongs are in the front
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 11, 2019, 10:21:37 AM
I have very little knowledge about how KCMO police operate, but aren't there precincts or divisions or something?  It's not like patrols out in Martin City are getting called up to take care of stuff by the airport, right?

the fact that the airport and martin city are both part of the same 315 sq mi city *might* mean that KCPD has to have more precincts/divisions/officers than, say, the 54 sq mi Minneapolis PD.
maybe it doesn't mean that! but i think probably it does!
Right, but I guess I don't know what difference it makes.  It should still be proportional.  It's just a broader tax base supporting a broader geographic territory. 

I'm not sure what chunking it out into separate cities accomplishes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2019, 10:35:06 AM
maybe if all 10 KCMO cops spent their time in the city's high crime areas instead of minsky's or giving tickets on ward parkway, we'd be better off
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2019, 10:38:10 AM
 :lol: So true
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 11, 2019, 10:46:11 AM
I like that there is a cop at the qt a block away pretty much from 8pm to 8am
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2019, 10:51:09 AM
I have very little knowledge about how KCMO police operate, but aren't there precincts or divisions or something?  It's not like patrols out in Martin City are getting called up to take care of stuff by the airport, right?

the fact that the airport and martin city are both part of the same 315 sq mi city *might* mean that KCPD has to have more precincts/divisions/officers than, say, the 54 sq mi Minneapolis PD.
maybe it doesn't mean that! but i think probably it does!
It should still be proportional.

yeah that's my point! the original question (from Phil in february or whatever) was asking why is KCPD's budget so much higher than minn/atl.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 11, 2019, 11:13:01 AM
I have very little knowledge about how KCMO police operate, but aren't there precincts or divisions or something?  It's not like patrols out in Martin City are getting called up to take care of stuff by the airport, right?

the fact that the airport and martin city are both part of the same 315 sq mi city *might* mean that KCPD has to have more precincts/divisions/officers than, say, the 54 sq mi Minneapolis PD.
maybe it doesn't mean that! but i think probably it does!
It should still be proportional.

yeah that's my point! the original question (from Phil in february or whatever) was asking why is KCPD's budget so much higher than minn/atl.
Oh yeah.  I wasnt paying attention to the context of the discussion. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 11, 2019, 12:41:40 PM
I have very little knowledge about how KCMO police operate, but aren't there precincts or divisions or something?  It's not like patrols out in Martin City are getting called up to take care of stuff by the airport, right?

the fact that the airport and martin city are both part of the same 315 sq mi city *might* mean that KCPD has to have more precincts/divisions/officers than, say, the 54 sq mi Minneapolis PD.
maybe it doesn't mean that! but i think probably it does!
It should still be proportional.

yeah that's my point! the original question (from Phil in february or whatever) was asking why is KCPD's budget so much higher than minn/atl.
Oh yeah.  I wasnt paying attention to the context of the discussion. 

no should you have been.
it's been proven time and time again that sly titola is nothing more than a slyin' hams shill
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2019, 12:58:36 PM
I have very little knowledge about how KCMO police operate, but aren't there precincts or divisions or something?  It's not like patrols out in Martin City are getting called up to take care of stuff by the airport, right?

the fact that the airport and martin city are both part of the same 315 sq mi city *might* mean that KCPD has to have more precincts/divisions/officers than, say, the 54 sq mi Minneapolis PD.
maybe it doesn't mean that! but i think probably it does!
It should still be proportional.

yeah that's my point! the original question (from Phil in february or whatever) was asking why is KCPD's budget so much higher than minn/atl.
Oh yeah.  I wasnt paying attention to the context of the discussion. 

no should you have been.
it's been proven time and time again that sly titola is nothing more than a slyin' hams shill

Sly got more money for the PD ya goof. My original comment was more focused on the effectiveness of.our PD isn't primarily a money problem. It's management.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 11, 2019, 01:00:20 PM
Maybe this goes to SD farm thread but why were tons of pig guts (without pig outsides) going through downtown KC on a trailer to get spilled? Where did they come from (besides pigs)? Where were they going and for what purpose?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 11, 2019, 01:04:38 PM
Probably going to pigwich. Duh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 11, 2019, 01:07:14 PM
Going to the k to be turned into hot dogs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 11, 2019, 01:19:58 PM
Maybe this goes to SD farm thread but why were tons of pig guts (without pig outsides) going through downtown KC on a trailer to get spilled? Where did they come from (besides pigs)? Where were they going and for what purpose?

They can make some sort of medicine out of pig intestines so that would be my guess. After they get the mediciny part out they grind them up into a protein meal and use it in making dog food.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on July 11, 2019, 02:36:27 PM
Maybe this goes to SD farm thread but why were tons of pig guts (without pig outsides) going through downtown KC on a trailer to get spilled? Where did they come from (besides pigs)? Where were they going and for what purpose?

They can make some sort of medicine out of pig intestines so that would be my guess. After they get the mediciny part out they grind them up into a protein meal and use it in making dog food.

Hot dogs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 11, 2019, 09:08:47 PM
i read that Shawnee is the largest city by land area in the usa (in the world?)!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 12, 2019, 08:24:26 AM
i read that Shawnee is the largest city by land area in the usa (in the world?)!

lol, no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 12, 2019, 08:31:59 AM
j-zap'd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kslim on July 12, 2019, 11:41:11 AM
We really gonna sit here and not talk about a semi full of pig intestines and cow heads being all over the interstate yesterday??
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 12, 2019, 11:42:17 AM
feel free to link it or post a photo or something
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 12, 2019, 01:29:09 PM
yee haw

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1149553584674971648
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 12, 2019, 03:20:20 PM
We really gonna sit here and not talk about a semi full of pig intestines and cow heads being all over the interstate yesterday??

Good idea slimLuke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 13, 2019, 02:25:58 AM
$60 on 3 drinks is pretty fun. I’ve finally made it, guys!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 13, 2019, 06:12:36 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 13, 2019, 08:31:02 AM
$60 on 3 drinks is pretty fun. I’ve finally made it, guys!

Is this a guessing game?  Stockhill?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 13, 2019, 10:21:19 AM
Tom's Town
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on July 13, 2019, 11:04:55 AM
Should have moved to ICT. 4 drinks for under $40 at the Hyatt. :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2019, 01:14:12 PM
monarch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on July 14, 2019, 07:14:32 PM
i read that Shawnee is the largest city by land area in the usa (in the world?)!

lol, no

it was super untrue and I am ready to own it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_area)

it may have been true that I read it tho??????

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 15, 2019, 12:35:01 PM
monarch
That would be my guess.  Thought maybe Crossroads Hotel, but it's not that steep IIRC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 15, 2019, 12:40:11 PM
i read that Shawnee is the largest city by land area in the usa (in the world?)!

lol, no

it was super untrue and I am ready to own it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_area)

it may have been true that I read it tho??????

Lol at OKC. When you drive from Tulsa to OKC there’s a sign in the middle of nowhere that says “entering OKC”. You drive another 5-7 miles before you see anything that even resembles the outskirts of town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 15, 2019, 12:40:33 PM
Sprung for Uber comfort this weekend so I have also made it  :kstategrad:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 15, 2019, 12:47:14 PM
Sprung for Uber comfort this weekend so I have also made it  :kstategrad:

What exactly is that?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 15, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
https://twitter.com/sesamestreet/status/1150120962312028161
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 15, 2019, 02:29:10 PM
Sprung for Uber comfort this weekend so I have also made it  :kstategrad:

What exactly is that?

https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2019/07/14/uber-launches-comfort-option/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 15, 2019, 02:30:24 PM
No talking option!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 21, 2019, 04:45:51 PM
Any downtown KC Hotels worth staying in?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 21, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
Sprung for Uber comfort this weekend so I have also made it  :kstategrad:

What exactly is that?

https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2019/07/14/uber-launches-comfort-option/

Can’t wait for the first gE report on Uber Copter to JFK
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on July 21, 2019, 07:03:18 PM
Any downtown KC Hotels worth staying in?

depends on the company...   :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 21, 2019, 10:57:26 PM
I would say, get the one with the best price/points tradeoff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on July 22, 2019, 05:26:36 AM
Any downtown KC Hotels worth staying in?
I've stayed in the plaza last two trips. Hampton Inn and Suites was nice. Embassy was meh.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 22, 2019, 08:45:40 AM
Savoy and crossroads hotel are unique.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 22, 2019, 12:15:27 PM
Went to the new reiger distillery in the east bottoms on saturday. It was a cool space and pretty packed, will be interesting to see if it can stay busy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 22, 2019, 04:46:56 PM
Went to the new reiger distillery in the east bottoms on saturday. It was a cool space and pretty packed, will be interesting to see if it can stay busy.

Went last weekend.  Very well done.  Loved the food selection too.  Did you do the slide?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 22, 2019, 05:27:49 PM
Went to the new reiger distillery in the east bottoms on saturday. It was a cool space and pretty packed, will be interesting to see if it can stay busy.

Went last weekend.  Very well done.  Loved the food selection too.  Did you do the slide?
Of course I went down the slide, did not have anything to eat tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 22, 2019, 05:40:59 PM
Went to the new reiger distillery in the east bottoms on saturday. It was a cool space and pretty packed, will be interesting to see if it can stay busy.

Went last weekend.  Very well done.  Loved the food selection too.  Did you do the slide?
Of course I went down the slide, did not have anything to eat tho.

It's a pretty good slide.  Their staff was really on top of it too.  Well trained and knowledgeable about what they had going on.  Liked it way better than the Boulevard rec center.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on July 23, 2019, 04:15:05 AM
Went to the new reiger distillery in the east bottoms on saturday. It was a cool space and pretty packed, will be interesting to see if it can stay busy.

Went last weekend.  Very well done.  Loved the food selection too.  Did you do the slide?
No idea about their new space but their whiskey is trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 23, 2019, 07:35:57 AM
Went to the new reiger distillery in the east bottoms on saturday. It was a cool space and pretty packed, will be interesting to see if it can stay busy.

Went last weekend.  Very well done.  Loved the food selection too.  Did you do the slide?
No idea about their new space but their whiskey is trash.
Yes. Are they making their own yet, or still contracting out?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 23, 2019, 10:16:57 AM
Any downtown KC Hotels worth staying in?
Crossroads hotel is the it spot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 23, 2019, 10:17:37 AM
hampton inn because points
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: deputy dawg on July 23, 2019, 10:29:47 AM
Any downtown KC Hotels worth staying in?
Crossroads hotel is the it spot.

QFT.  Across from Lulu's Thai noodle shop.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 23, 2019, 10:42:24 AM
Savoy and crossroads hotel are unique.
Any downtown KC Hotels worth staying in?
Crossroads hotel is the it spot.

QFT.  Across from Lulu's Thai noodle shop.

Booked! Thanks for the recommendos!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 23, 2019, 12:46:06 PM
Savoy and crossroads hotel are unique.
Any downtown KC Hotels worth staying in?
Crossroads hotel is the it spot.

QFT.  Across from Lulu's Thai noodle shop.

Booked! Thanks for the recommendos!

See you on the Percheron roof!  Their Italian place lazia isn't that great but the pizza place in the bar has had good reviews.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2019, 08:25:01 PM
Had lulu's for the first time tonight. Wow! Very tasty  :drool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 25, 2019, 09:15:18 PM
so very meh, it’s the pie five of kc asian restaurants
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 25, 2019, 09:21:17 PM
You watch your mouth ‘clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2019, 09:37:50 PM
'clams just can't take the heat  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 25, 2019, 10:29:25 PM
Keep hearing good things about that new Thai place that replaced pizza Bella
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 26, 2019, 08:15:38 AM
in positive pie five news, i went to the pie five on metcalf and 91st yesterday for lunch and the lady working didn't like the way my pizza looked so she gave it to me and then baked me a new one which i ate a slice of.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 26, 2019, 08:47:06 AM
This world has way too many pizza places if you ask me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 26, 2019, 09:08:06 AM
This world has way too many pizza places if you ask me

And a majority suck. I think all the suck ones decided to land in KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 26, 2019, 09:13:55 AM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 26, 2019, 09:14:26 AM
Keep hearing good things about that new Thai place that replaced pizza Bella

canco
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 26, 2019, 09:21:06 AM
Savoy and crossroads hotel are unique.
Any downtown KC Hotels worth staying in?
Crossroads hotel is the it spot.

QFT.  Across from Lulu's Thai noodle shop.

Booked! Thanks for the recommendos!

See you on the Percheron roof!  Their Italian place lazia isn't that great but the pizza place in the bar has had good reviews.

the roof is fun. get that cocktail with jalisco in the name. < mocat pro tip
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 26, 2019, 09:36:39 AM
They are adding a shade cloth to the long table section soon. Much needed.

I def plan to spend some time there this weekend
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 26, 2019, 09:42:29 AM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 26, 2019, 09:44:01 AM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?

baramee thai followed by cocktails on the xroads hotel roof, i mean this was covered like 2 posts ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 26, 2019, 09:45:53 AM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?
Mini golf at the nelson (though you need to book like a week or two in advance for weekend nights). 

Eat somewhere in the river market and streetcar down to crossroads and go to updown or whatever.

Drive in movie at boulevard.

BOWLING
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 26, 2019, 09:46:44 AM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?

baramee thai followed by cocktails on the xroads hotel roof, i mean this was covered like 2 posts ago

this is specific for this night, this climate, this moment, not just any random night. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 26, 2019, 09:47:21 AM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?

baramee thai followed by cocktails on the xroads hotel roof, i mean this was covered like 2 posts ago

this is specific for this night, this climate, this moment, not just any random night. 

correct
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 26, 2019, 09:48:05 AM
had the crepa at il laz yesterday. absolute chef kiss.gif
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 26, 2019, 09:51:52 AM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?
Mini golf at the nelson (though you need to book like a week or two in advance for weekend nights). 

Eat somewhere in the river market and streetcar down to crossroads and go to updown or whatever.

Drive in movie at boulevard.

BOWLING

great ideas
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 26, 2019, 09:52:44 AM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?
Mini golf at the nelson (though you need to book like a week or two in advance for weekend nights). 

Eat somewhere in the river market and streetcar down to crossroads and go to updown or whatever.

Drive in movie at boulevard.

BOWLING
Mrs. Wacky sent me the link for mini golf at the museum this week. Looks amaze.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 26, 2019, 10:12:40 AM
had the crepa at il laz yesterday. absolute chef kiss.gif
For most of my life, i thought "pizza is pizza."  Then I had Il Laz.  Gonna be hard to look Papa in the eyes moving forward.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 26, 2019, 10:22:03 AM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?

baramee thai followed by cocktails on the xroads hotel roof, i mean this was covered like 2 posts ago

this is specific for this night, this climate, this moment, not just any random night.

I'm doing fox and pearl (new loca) and this so you are in good hands here.

Speaking of good summer night ideas. Thursday night on extra virgin patio (cheap rose) might be the perfect one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 26, 2019, 10:26:29 AM
got a "tee time" at the nelson this evening
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 26, 2019, 10:40:45 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 26, 2019, 10:42:53 AM
nice work meow meow. enjoy your fabulous evening courtesy of gE.c
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 26, 2019, 10:57:08 AM
will do, maybe hit up the percheron afterwords, who knows!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 26, 2019, 11:11:41 AM
FYI Percheron closes at 11. I assume their residential neighbors paying 2.50 a square foot weren't too keen on any late night roof deck action.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 26, 2019, 04:16:30 PM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?

you should each grab a 6 pack of goons from kin lin and a 12 pack of trulys from whole foods then swing by and watch ol' clams dominate faces in overwatch with my abusive elbows swinging down hard from the top turnbuckle
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2019, 04:25:52 PM
Oh, another solo team kill in comp? Nbd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on July 26, 2019, 04:41:36 PM
what would be a fun date idea tonight in the big town?

you should each grab a 6 pack of goons from kin lin and a 12 pack of trulys from whole foods then swing by and watch ol' clams dominate faces in overwatch with my abusive elbows swinging down hard from the top turnbuckle

you had me at goons
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 26, 2019, 07:01:42 PM
had the crepa at il laz yesterday. absolute chef kiss.gif
For most of my life, i thought "pizza is pizza."  Then I had Il Laz.  Gonna be hard to look Papa in the eyes moving forward.
You’ve had bad pizza takes for years
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 27, 2019, 12:24:16 AM
Had IMO’s pizza tonight and holy crap it blows Pie Five out of the water :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 27, 2019, 08:47:34 AM
Line for Percheron was 50.deep at 830 so had to slum it on ground level patios around the crossroads.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on July 27, 2019, 08:52:08 AM
Had IMO’s pizza tonight and holy crap it blows Pie Five out of the water :Wha:
Do they serve it STL style? Gawd I hate that fuckin cheese.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 27, 2019, 09:07:54 AM
Had IMO’s pizza tonight and holy crap it blows Pie Five out of the water :Wha:
Do they serve it STL style? Gawd I hate that fuckin cheese.

I have no idea but it was extremely good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 27, 2019, 11:13:47 AM
Had IMO’s pizza tonight and holy crap it blows Pie Five out of the water :Wha:
Do they serve it STL style? Gawd I hate that fuckin cheese.

Agree with this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 28, 2019, 08:54:43 AM
when people say there is no bad pizza, I know that they haven’t tried imo’s
yes that place uses provolone cheese
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on July 28, 2019, 09:11:03 AM
Provel*
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 28, 2019, 09:38:38 AM
You guys are crazy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 28, 2019, 10:58:43 AM
Provel*

you’re right, that’s even worse
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on July 28, 2019, 12:23:15 PM
Not crazy. Speaking the truth.

You can order with mozzarella vice the crap cheese. Then it's an edible pizza.

Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 29, 2019, 08:00:49 AM
New Fox and pearl is very awesome. Did a great job with that space.  Out back patio, basement lounge space. Great food.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 29, 2019, 08:39:15 AM
New Fox and pearl is very awesome. Did a great job with that space.  Out back patio, basement lounge space. Great food.

would be very tough choosing from the kansas white beans or the rabbit bacon sausage.  of course, i could always go with the chermoula rubbed quail because who doesn't crave chermoula 24/7?
gosh i don't know.  maybe i'll just stick with a $5 plate of pickles or the $35 fried chicken.  both seem worth it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 29, 2019, 08:40:13 AM
fox and pearl should move to mhk because of the name sounding very mhk'ish
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 29, 2019, 08:43:18 AM
Foxes and pearls don't even occupy the same biome.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 29, 2019, 09:18:52 AM
fox and pearl should move to mhk because of the name sounding very mhk'ish

Owner is from lFk so checks out.

I had the 11 potted cheese, 12 pork and foie gras sausage. Both big winners.  The 14 ravioli was good but not great. Hope these prices are okay clams.

:Kstategrad:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 29, 2019, 09:22:50 AM
Potted cheese? What the furk?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 29, 2019, 10:32:43 AM
Potted cheese? What the furk?

I don't know either but it was good. Texture was like pimento cheese
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 01, 2019, 11:37:30 AM
Mayor Q is in place.  Excited to see what he has in him.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2019, 02:20:19 PM
We lost a great KC’r today. Grandma Zarda, rest easy now. She did so much for Catholic Charities here. Dementia is the rough ridin' worst! :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 02, 2019, 02:23:13 PM
I went to zarda last week for lunch and this group from Virginia was in front of me and they were incredulous that there was a 10 person line at "11am on a Wednesday" (it was 12:30pm on a Thursday)

RIP Gma zarda.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2019, 02:26:28 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 02, 2019, 02:45:16 PM
I went to zarda last week for lunch and this group from Virginia was in front of me and they were incredulous that there was a 10 person line at "11am on a Wednesday" (it was 12:30pm on a Thursday)

RIP Gma zarda.

TIL Virginia is 1 day and 90 minute in front of us timezone wise.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 03, 2019, 10:17:38 AM
eff

https://twitter.com/LukeNozicka/status/1157535039191769089
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 03, 2019, 10:35:33 AM
I saw that a little bit ago :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 03, 2019, 02:27:24 PM
I was standing on the opposite corner 2 minutes prior for like 15 minutes just watching the crowd. Everybody seemed chill.

So sad. Not a good start for Q and his block party a block away.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2019, 08:16:04 PM
If any of you actually care about the history of KC, please look up the Zarda’s family influence on how they provided dairy back in the day when this city started to grow. We lost the heart and stone of the family last Friday and her funeral was today. Their legacy will always continue on, whether in the suburbs or the inner city, they help implement a lot of what you see today in this city. Through Catholic Charities for the poor or zoning issues for the city to grow. RIP B Zarda.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2019, 08:38:08 PM
http://m.shawneedispatch.com/news/2006/oct/18/immigrant_family_built/?templates=mobile
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 06, 2019, 10:27:46 PM
Weird time for Phil and company to try act like they’re competent for downtown KC. :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 06, 2019, 11:34:26 PM
Sorry for your loss 420seriouscat69  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2019, 06:41:38 AM
Weird time for Phil and company to try act like they’re competent for downtown KC. :love:

Sorry for your family's loss.  Not sure why my name is bring invoked as part of it.  People feel with grief differently I guess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 07:06:59 AM
Sorry for your loss 420seriouscat69  :frown:
Thanks, friend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 08:27:13 AM
even in trying times, 'scat69 stays true to himself by trying to insult someone.

RIP
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on August 07, 2019, 08:31:39 AM
even in trying times, 'scat69 stays true to himself by trying to insult someone.

RIP

keeping it real
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 08:43:03 AM
Just too many damn hippies running KC these days, guys. Not enough boot strappers and it makes me sad.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on August 07, 2019, 08:44:50 AM
The boot strappers grew up and moved to the suburbs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 08:51:21 AM
The boot strappers grew up and moved to the suburbs.
And built this city! Now it's run by a bunch of guys who wanna make it Portland, Oregon.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 08:53:01 AM
what should kc do different 69 cat?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 07, 2019, 09:02:48 AM
what should kc do different 69 cat?
Kick out the hippies, bring back the robber barons and mobsters!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 09:06:36 AM
what should kc do different 69 cat?
Kick out the hippies, bring back the robber barons and mobsters!

seems like the hippies brought back the speakeasys?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 09:08:05 AM
what should kc do different 69 cat?
Help the poor, focus on cleaning up crime rate, etc.

Spend less time thinking up worthless crap and taking from tax payers to make a 1.2 mile choo choo train.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on August 07, 2019, 09:09:56 AM
what should kc do different 69 cat?
Help the poor, focus on cleaning up crime rate, etc.

Spend less time thinking up worthless crap and taking from tax payers to make a 1.2 mile choo choo train.

Help the poor? What kind of socialist bullshit is that, 420?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 09:11:41 AM
It makes more sense to spend tax payer $ on helping the community vs trying to highlight some stupid ass train on a national stage.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on August 07, 2019, 09:13:13 AM
The train is pro-business.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 07, 2019, 09:17:43 AM
I call it the trickle down choo-choo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 09:23:15 AM
The train is pro-business.
:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 09:27:05 AM
if there's one thing boot strappers hated, it was rail lines
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 09:31:10 AM
Yeah, those rail lines had a purpose, but nice try, bud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 07, 2019, 09:31:58 AM
the streetcar is the heart and stone of downtown kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 09:33:25 AM
Mocat never misses an opportunity to be a POS. Sad.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 07, 2019, 09:36:33 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 10:06:23 AM
 :shy:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2019, 10:23:20 AM
Free transit for all coming soon hopefully. Spurred on by the popularity of a free streetcar.

I look forward to seriouscat other ideas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 10:59:34 AM
Get you someone to look at you, the way Phil & Co. look at your KC Tax Dollars.  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2019, 11:06:07 AM
Get you someone to look at you, the way Phil & Co. look at your KC Tax Dollars.  :love:

Oh wacky.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 11:06:34 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 07, 2019, 11:43:27 AM
I am down with helping the poor in KC, MO wack.  How should Q get started?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 12:36:37 PM
obviously go back in time and never build the streetcar, give that money to the poor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 07, 2019, 12:38:03 PM
I still haven’t ridden the damn thing and I’m paying taxes(I think) on it :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 12:40:18 PM
I still haven’t ridden the damn thing and I’m paying taxes(I think) on it :curse:
Brace yourself. It goes 1.2 miles and stops like 8 times, I believe. I wouldn't know, pretty sure you can get somewhere faster by walking vs riding that thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 12:45:44 PM
obviously go back in time and never build the streetcar, give that money to the poor
They could have built more homeless shelters with that $. There's like one spot downtown for them to go and it's small AF. They don't care though. Also, speaking of crime, only time when Phil bitched about crime in KC, was when it got near his precious first Fridays this past weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 12:50:20 PM
Also, Phil, you bitch a lot in the Pit. I know you think it's weird I bring up your name in the KC thread that you blanket 24/7/365, but now that I know Kansas Citians are the ones paying your salary, to regurgitate your hippy leaders messages, you should expect it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 01:00:26 PM
yes, glad i'm not the only one who has noticed all of phil's bitching in the Pit.  it's just been too much.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 01:02:11 PM
What are you trying to do here, M^2?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 07, 2019, 01:09:29 PM
trying to figure out why phil has you so outraged
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 07, 2019, 01:23:38 PM
I still haven’t ridden the damn thing and I’m paying taxes(I think) on it :curse:
Brace yourself. It goes 1.2 miles and stops like 8 times, I believe. I wouldn't know, pretty sure you can get somewhere faster by walking vs riding that thing.

this is my favorite thing OAT. people that didn't want a streetcar all the way to UMKC now complain that it's only 1 mile long  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 07, 2019, 01:32:28 PM
obviously go back in time and never build the streetcar, give that money to the poor
They could have built more homeless shelters with that $. There's like one spot downtown for them to go and it's small AF. They don't care though. Also, speaking of crime, only time when Phil bitched about crime in KC, was when it got near his precious first Fridays this past weekend.

That's socialism
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2019, 01:56:30 PM
trying to figure out why phil has you so outraged

I wish I knew. I think wacky and I would be best buds but he hates me for some reason.

:Frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2019, 01:57:54 PM
Also, Phil, you bitch a lot in the Pit. I know you think it's weird I bring up your name in the KC thread that you blanket 24/7/365, but now that I know Kansas Citians are the ones paying your salary, to regurgitate your hippy leaders messages, you should expect it.

You've posted in here like 20 times in 24 hours. None of us have figured out about what.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 07, 2019, 02:41:39 PM
but now that I know Kansas Citians are the ones paying your salary
:ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 07, 2019, 03:32:45 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/kansascity/comments/cn583d/this_storm_rolling_into_the_city/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 07, 2019, 07:10:36 PM
Road the Streetcar from my office downtown to the crown center hertz yesterday and today.  Extremely convenient.  Canco that it was much much faster than walking fwiw.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 07, 2019, 07:20:52 PM


Road the Streetcar from my office downtown to the crown center hertz yesterday and today.  Extremely convenient.  Canco that it was much much faster than walking fwiw.

:D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 07, 2019, 07:27:24 PM
Intentional!!  :Chirp:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on August 07, 2019, 07:36:31 PM
Intentional!!  :Chirp:
Oh ho ho!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 07:37:29 PM
Do you live downtown, now, Dlew? Does your car not work? Coming from Illinois, was the 1.2 mile choo choo train everything you imagined it to be? Do you work at ‘stones firm now? Do any of the respected lawyers there actually ride it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 07, 2019, 07:59:46 PM
rofl
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 08:00:27 PM
I still haven’t ridden the damn thing and I’m paying taxes(I think) on it :curse:
Brace yourself. It goes 1.2 miles and stops like 8 times, I believe. I wouldn't know, pretty sure you can get somewhere faster by walking vs riding that thing.

this is my favorite thing OAT. people that didn't want a streetcar all the way to UMKC now complain that it's only 1 mile long  :lol:
you’re obviously missing the joke then. They should have never went through with it if it wasn’t going to do what it was supposed to do, chode.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on August 07, 2019, 08:34:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/zGHQb4O.gif?2)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2019, 09:37:20 PM
I still haven’t ridden the damn thing and I’m paying taxes(I think) on it :curse:
Brace yourself. It goes 1.2 miles and stops like 8 times, I believe. I wouldn't know, pretty sure you can get somewhere faster by walking vs riding that thing.

this is my favorite thing OAT. people that didn't want a streetcar all the way to UMKC now complain that it's only 1 mile long  :lol:
you’re obviously missing the joke then. They should have never went through with it if it wasn’t going to do what it was supposed to do, chode.

Out of your depth 420. Nothing wrong with that, be glad to help.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 07, 2019, 09:46:39 PM
Do you guys think those bird scooters(which are literally deposited everywhere) are hurting Street Car traffic?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 07, 2019, 10:05:45 PM


I still haven’t ridden the damn thing and I’m paying taxes(I think) on it :curse:
Brace yourself. It goes 1.2 miles and stops like 8 times, I believe. I wouldn't know, pretty sure you can get somewhere faster by walking vs riding that thing.

this is my favorite thing OAT. people that didn't want a streetcar all the way to UMKC now complain that it's only 1 mile long 
you’re obviously missing the joke then. They should have never went through with it if it wasn’t going to do what it was supposed to do, chode.


lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2019, 10:21:38 PM
Do you guys think those bird scooters(which are literally deposited everywhere) are hurting Street Car traffic?
Like riders? Hopefully. Streetcar ridership just experienced it's biggest month of riders ever in the 4th year of operation.

I've used them quite a few times especially if going considerable distances east or west that I may have jumped on the choo choo otherwise or walked
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 07, 2019, 10:27:50 PM
Do you guys think those bird scooters(which are literally deposited everywhere) are hurting Street Car traffic?
Like riders? Hopefully. Streetcar ridership just experienced it's biggest month of riders ever in the 4th year of operation.

I've used them quite a few times especially if going considerable distances east or west that I may have jumped on the choo choo otherwise or walked

Cool. I’ve hinted at it but....I do work downtown, this watching from the sidelines the past few years has been interesting. I’m directly involved now, so I feel involved! I personally like the Street Car, even tho I’ve never ridden it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 07, 2019, 10:31:46 PM
Also would gladly invite a downtown #lunchpak happening soon since the KC Pak scene has changed since I’ve moved to town
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 07, 2019, 10:48:12 PM
Phil saw me many times without saying hi and then berated pissclams for a meet up (which never happened), so, I wouldn’t expect anything.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 07, 2019, 10:57:59 PM
Phil saw me many times without saying hi and then berated pissclams for a meet up (which never happened), so, I wouldn’t expect anything.

Well I believe in new beginnings. We had ours, I’ve never tried to meet Phil, I have met ‘clams, several times, and also have a meeting planned soon. So, maybe, Phil will want to meet, this is a first time. So, anything is possible. What I do know is that I think everyone deserves a second chance, and this is a first chance.

Will report either way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 07, 2019, 11:42:17 PM
A Streetcar Named Common
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2019, 06:52:49 AM


Like Streetcar ridership just experienced it's biggest month of riders ever in the 4th year of operation.

I wonder when the novelty will wear off. Year 5 probably?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 06:54:06 AM
Phil saw me many times without saying hi and then berated pissclams for a meet up (which never happened), so, I wouldn’t expect anything.

One time and you were jumping in an uber. Maybe a blessing now given your attempts to dox me lately.

I never berated clams ?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 06:55:56 AM
Also would gladly invite a downtown #lunchpak happening soon since the KC Pak scene has changed since I’ve moved to town

I'm in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2019, 07:21:50 AM
A Streetcar Named Common

well done, that was a very stella joke
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2019, 07:54:11 AM


Like Streetcar ridership just experienced it's biggest month of riders ever in the 4th year of operation.

I wonder when the novelty will wear off. Year 5 probably?

if you don't think that a big chunk of the people who ride that thing are olatheans who drive in to the big city to "ride the streetcar", i don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 08:15:32 AM


Like Streetcar ridership just experienced it's biggest month of riders ever in the 4th year of operation.

I wonder when the novelty will wear off. Year 5 probably?

if you don't think that a big chunk of the people who ride that thing are olatheans who drive in to the big city to "ride the streetcar", i don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong

Weekend traffic is very much this and they are using it to park once and explore downtown and not clog up city market parking.

Weekday ridership is also on the rise which is very much not Olathe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2019, 08:24:25 AM
i rode it saturday morning from farmhouse after a boozy brunch to the crossroads where i left my car the night before.  very convenient and faster than walking.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2019, 08:29:29 AM


Like Streetcar ridership just experienced it's biggest month of riders ever in the 4th year of operation.

I wonder when the novelty will wear off. Year 5 probably?

if you don't think that a big chunk of the people who ride that thing are olatheans who drive in to the big city to "ride the streetcar", i don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong

oh man link me to where i said that so we can lol at it together.

i love taking olatheans' money and pouring it into downtown businesses more than donald duck loves diving into his golden swimming pool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 08:44:18 AM
i rode it saturday morning from farmhouse after a boozy brunch to the crossroads where i left my car the night before.  very convenient and faster than walking.

It is so great how it has connected downtown and will do connect us to our midtown friends...and riverfront friends!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2019, 08:58:11 AM
I saw Phil once and didn't say hi to him so I got your payback 420seriouscat69
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 09:00:41 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 09:01:32 AM
i rode it saturday morning from farmhouse after a boozy brunch to the crossroads where i left my car the night before.  very convenient and faster than walking.
Drinking and driving is not good, MM :nono:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2019, 09:02:58 AM
i wouldn't know what any of you look like, so i've probably been snubbed by everyone in KC at one point.  Sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2019, 09:03:54 AM
i rode it saturday morning from farmhouse after a boozy brunch to the crossroads where i left my car the night before.  very convenient and faster than walking.
Drinking and driving is not good, MM :nono:

only had one mimosa.  drank very responsibly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 09:04:56 AM
Phil made a point to say he saw me once and didn't say hi. I was just referencing it, because he's been begging 'clams to meet up for years since they have different opinions on how the city is run. I was finding it ironic, but carry on by beating this dead horse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on August 08, 2019, 09:05:14 AM
I've met DBT at a couple of Cats fb games. SD and I are IG buds. One day we'll high five at Disney. Can't forget about XT and Gooch as well on the IG.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2019, 09:07:29 AM
seriouscat69, you need to learn to let stuff go, you'll be happier for it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2019, 09:17:37 AM


Like Streetcar ridership just experienced it's biggest month of riders ever in the 4th year of operation.

I wonder when the novelty will wear off. Year 5 probably?

if you don't think that a big chunk of the people who ride that thing are olatheans who drive in to the big city to "ride the streetcar", i don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong

oh man link me to where i said that so we can lol at it together.



oh man you're totally playing the i didn't say that game when clearly you did.  oh man.  no thanks man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 09:18:41 AM
 :lol:

seriouscat69, you need to learn to let stuff go, you'll be happier for it
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2019, 09:25:44 AM


Like Streetcar ridership just experienced it's biggest month of riders ever in the 4th year of operation.

I wonder when the novelty will wear off. Year 5 probably?

if you don't think that a big chunk of the people who ride that thing are olatheans who drive in to the big city to "ride the streetcar", i don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong

oh man link me to where i said that so we can lol at it together.



oh man you're totally playing the i didn't say that game when clearly you did.  oh man.  no thanks man.

ok. i absolutely think a bunch of joco'rs contribute to the ridership. do the ridership numbers come with an asterisk or something because of that? i don't even understand what your point is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2019, 09:28:51 AM
I know two different families(don't know each other and did this separately) that took a friday evening to drive downtown from the 'burbs just to park, walk to the streetcar line, ride the car, then walk back to their car and drive back to OP to get dinner.

 :ROFL:

'seeds.

you know some idiots

More than my share, unfortunately.

it's a worlds of fun ride for old people
the novelty will wear off and like emo said, how is it benefitting kansas city?  we have to see these development dollars in action.

omg ^
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 08, 2019, 09:36:04 AM
Do you live downtown, now, Dlew? Does your car not work? Coming from Illinois, was the 1.2 mile choo choo train everything you imagined it to be? Do you work at ‘stones firm now? Do any of the respected lawyers there actually ride it?
No I don't live downtown.  Yes my car works.  I didn't think much of the streetcar coming from Chicago.  I don't work at LSOC's firm.  N/A.

I just needed to rent a car for work and there's a Hertz at Crown Center and a Streetcar pickup outside my office building.  In that context, the Streetcar was incredibly convenient. 

It was also surprisingly crowded at 3:30 on a Wednesday afternoon.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 08, 2019, 09:38:56 AM
i don't even know who to believe anymore  :runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2019, 09:45:03 AM
I know two different families(don't know each other and did this separately) that took a friday evening to drive downtown from the 'burbs just to park, walk to the streetcar line, ride the car, then walk back to their car and drive back to OP to get dinner.

 :ROFL:

'seeds.

you know some idiots

More than my share, unfortunately.

it's a worlds of fun ride for old people
the novelty will wear off and like emo said, how is it benefitting kansas city?  we have to see these development dollars in action.

omg ^

it won't!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on August 08, 2019, 09:47:01 AM
The streetcar is like a person. It is not either all good or all bad. It has its struggles. It does the best it can. Ultimately, it deserves to be treated with respect and decency just like any other form of human life.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2019, 09:48:01 AM
The streetcar is like a person. It is not either all good or all bad. It has its struggles. It does the best it can. Ultimately, it deserves to be treated with respect and decency just like any other form of human life.
like a woman's pelt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2019, 09:52:16 AM
The streetcar is like a person. It is not either all good or all bad. It has its struggles. It does the best it can. Ultimately, it deserves to be treated with respect and decency just like any other form of human life.

didn't cincinnati get one right around the same time in OTR? how is that going
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2019, 09:56:39 AM
as someone who doesn't live or work in walking distance to the streetcar (although i work in kc), i think you'd have to say it's been a positive thing for kc, and is functional even at it's current length.  there weren't all the scooters around when it started, and it sounds like it's continuing to grow despite those alternative options, seems like a good thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2019, 10:58:12 AM
the SC is a positive and the districts around it pay for it.  and "building more homeless shelters" is not an answer to poverty.

You idiots are welcome
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on August 08, 2019, 11:06:37 AM
Imagine being triggered over a streetcar.  I just tried and wasn't able to.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 08, 2019, 11:09:51 AM
I've met DBT at a couple of Cats fb games. SD and I are IG buds. One day we'll high five at Disney. Can't forget about XT and Gooch as well on the IG.

Even tho you stood me up once! I saw you later tho and all is good!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2019, 11:12:05 AM
Imagine being triggered over a streetcar.  I just tried and wasn't able to.

going to ride it to hot country nights tonight and will try very hard to get triggered over it just to see what it feels like.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 11:16:46 AM
The crowd may trigger you. Lots of shorts and cowboy boots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2019, 11:17:40 AM
hcn is a guilty pleasure of mine
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on August 08, 2019, 11:30:52 AM
stagecoach?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on August 08, 2019, 11:54:42 AM
The streetcar is like a person. It is not either all good or all bad. It has its struggles. It does the best it can. Ultimately, it deserves to be treated with respect and decency just like any other form of human life.

didn't cincinnati get one right around the same time in OTR? how is that going

The only time I tried to ride it, an attendant came out and stopped people from buying tickets from the vending machines because they were shutting it down due to a riot down the line.

Other than that, no idea. It goes from OTR through downtown to the riverfront, which seems good, especially for eating and drinking and partying.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on August 08, 2019, 11:58:23 AM
I've met DBT at a couple of Cats fb games. SD and I are IG buds. One day we'll high five at Disney. Can't forget about XT and Gooch as well on the IG.

Even tho you stood me up once! I saw you later tho and all is good!
Ya. I was boozing early with buds and forgot to call. Glad I saw you at the gate though!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on August 08, 2019, 12:01:12 PM
The streetcar is like a person. It is not either all good or all bad. It has its struggles. It does the best it can. Ultimately, it deserves to be treated with respect and decency just like any other form of human life.

didn't cincinnati get one right around the same time in OTR? how is that going

The only time I tried to ride it, an attendant came out and stopped people from buying tickets from the vending machines because they were shutting it down due to a riot down the line.

Other than that, no idea. It goes from OTR through downtown to the riverfront, which seems good, especially for eating and drinking and partying.

Riots?  Man they must have been really triggered, that's a level of devotion to streetcar hate that KC hasn't seen yet.  All we can get around here is some half-hearted complaining on a message board.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 12:08:50 PM
Also triggered message boarders getting triggered at other message boarders for thinking their lil choo choo train is a waste. :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2019, 12:10:05 PM
is it legal to drink on the street car?  socially acceptable?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 08, 2019, 12:11:25 PM
If you live in the taxing district, I can understand why you'd be pissed about it.  But I can't for the life me understand why else someone would be pissed.  Wacky, are you also pissed about Cincinnati's street car?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 12:24:30 PM
I lived downtown when it was being constructed and started running and later Waldo. It was a huge pain in the ass and seemed nonsensical. Cincinnati is gross overall, so I don’t really have any thoughts about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2019, 12:29:39 PM
Now don’t get me started on the streetcar in Minneapolis
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2019, 12:33:06 PM
I lived downtown when it was being constructed and started running and later Waldo. It was a huge pain in the ass and seemed nonsensical. Cincinnati is gross overall, so I don’t really have any thoughts about it.

Construction downtown is currently worse than during train construction.

Can’t comment on Waldo as it’s 8 miles from nearest streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 12:36:13 PM
The point was, I was a MO taxpayer at one time. I also lived on Delaware in the river market where they started to build it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on August 08, 2019, 12:47:30 PM
Cincinnati is gross overall

WC had a bad experience in Cincinnati or something. Very biased. It reminds me of the time he try to prop up Indianapolis cuisine right after bashing Cincinnati's by naming an Indianapolis "must" eat restaurant. A restaurant he had no idea originated in Cincinnati.

Honestly, I can't think of a city lamer than Indy.
Cincy? :dunno:

The Eagle on Mass Avenue is a must. Candy bacon and prime bloodys. It's a neat little street. We hit that place hard on Sunday's when I have to travel the day before.

You can hit it hard on Sunday's when you have to travel the day before in Columbus, Louisville, and even at the original location in Cincinnati as well.

https://www.theeagleotr.com/locations/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 12:50:03 PM
Man, roasted me, chum.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 12:52:01 PM
Elmo's Steakhouse in Indy easily trumps anything Cinci has, but I also wasn't trying to prop up Indy like it was some amazing city. Just a place I had to go to a lot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on August 08, 2019, 12:53:04 PM
Man, roasted me, chum.

Did what happened in Cincinnati have something to do with your old company's new HR lady?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2019, 12:58:03 PM
Man, roasted me, chum.

Did what happened in Cincinnati have something to do with your old company's new HR lady?

BONER ALERT!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on August 08, 2019, 01:00:57 PM
Man, roasted me, chum.

Did what happened in Cincinnati have something to do with your old company's new HR lady?

BONER ALERT!

Maybe there were multiple boners in the same hotel room as her and WC. He's scarred.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 01:03:31 PM
lol. No, but i'm sorry you're so offended that i'm not impressed with your city, Chum. T's & P's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on August 08, 2019, 01:21:51 PM
chode1 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 01:28:33 PM
Man Cincy chili is pure throw up. City itself felt a lot like KC but I haven't been there in like a decade.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2019, 01:41:01 PM
I've never been to Cincinnati, probably never will be. I'm OK with that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 01:43:26 PM
Speaking of boring cities, I have to go to Cleveland soon.  :frown:

Places i'm excited to be visiting for work soon are NYC, Boston, and Connecticut. I finally get to go to UCONN to see what it's all about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 01:50:03 PM
Speaking of boring cities, I have to go to Cleveland soon.  :frown:

Places i'm excited to be visiting for work soon are NYC, Boston, and Connecticut. I finally get to go to UCONN to see what it's all about.

I have this odd love of Cleveland. Not sure why.  Always have a good time there, I know it seems weird. I don't get it either.

Greenhouse Tavern has the best steak tartare I've ever had.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 01:52:39 PM
I'll check it out. I did go to a really good brewery there one time, but I can't recall the name of it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 08, 2019, 01:54:50 PM
West Side Market area is great... otherwise it's pretty rough, in my experience.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 08, 2019, 02:00:20 PM
Take it to the travel thread dorks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2019, 02:47:49 PM
I thought queer eye made KC look ok
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 08, 2019, 03:10:12 PM
I lived downtown when it was being constructed and started running and later Waldo. It was a huge pain in the ass and seemed nonsensical. Cincinnati is gross overall, so I don’t really have any thoughts about it.
So it was just the construction on Main that you found annoying about the streetcar?  Not trying to be a dick, I just don't know why anyone would have any ill-will towards the thing unless it's just a general grievance against public spending.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 03:18:44 PM
I just thought it was careless spending and it was very annoying at the time when I lived down there. It was kind of one of those "get off my lawn" moments when I was down there as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2019, 03:19:20 PM
now we're getting somewhere
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 03:21:02 PM
Mainly the careless spending part, but I will admit those other things took effect too. It also effected rent downtown as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 03:25:50 PM
I thought queer eye made KC look ok
Agreed. It was pretty fun. I couldn't believe they put one of the Royals cat suit guys on the show, especially since it looked like he was doing just fine, but very entertaining.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 03:30:13 PM
Mainly the careless spending part, but I will admit those other things took effect too. It also effected rent downtown as well.

Can you name some other KC metro projects you consider careless spending?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 03:37:03 PM
Not one of this stature. The Kaufman Center really grew on me and looks badass in our skyline.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 08, 2019, 03:44:33 PM
Mainly the careless spending part, but I will admit those other things took effect too. It also effected rent downtown as well.

Can you name some other KC metro projects you consider careless spending?

The new airport. The planes fly fine out of the current one.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 04:07:40 PM
Mainly the careless spending part, but I will admit those other things took effect too. It also effected rent downtown as well.

Can you name some other KC metro projects you consider careless spending?

The new airport. The planes fly fine out of the current one.

I figured it was a layup I was giving him
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 04:09:17 PM
Not one of this stature. The Kaufman Center really grew on me and looks badass in our skyline.

Well tax money didn't build that.  Kind of weird for a believer of unnecessary government spending can only come up with one project.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 04:23:09 PM
I knew you wanted me to say the airport and honestly I don't gaf about it anymore. Most of the time it's super convenient to get in and out of, but I do see how it looks compared vs other airports. I can't have a passion for 1 specific project, Phil? I'm not in the weeds like you are everyday. I doubt most of the road construction out there right now is needed, but what can I do about it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 04:29:39 PM
I knew you wanted me to say the airport and honestly I don't gaf about it anymore. Most of the time it's super convenient to get in and out of, but I do see how it looks compared vs other airports. I can't have a passion for 1 specific project, Phil? I'm not in the weeds like you are everyday. I doubt most of the road construction out there right now is needed, but what can I do about it?

That last part is music to my ears wacky. I totally agree with you.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 04:39:53 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2019, 04:42:43 PM
Way more road construction is needed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2019, 04:48:44 PM
it's a shitshow out there 7 and you know it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2019, 05:02:29 PM
It is! But needed  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 05:12:46 PM
Food for thought bubble lib

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/09/citylab-university-induced-demand/569455/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2019, 05:20:03 PM
Fixing crumbling infrastructure doesn't mean adding lanes. Good grief slying Phil smdh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2019, 05:44:08 PM
it's a shitshow out there 7 and you know it

Took my 3rd option home because the first two are closed and then that one was closed too   :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 05:50:33 PM
 :lol: and also  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 08, 2019, 05:53:32 PM
They closed the 69 exit from I-35 on Saturday and I’m not happy about it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 06:55:23 PM
Fixing crumbling infrastructure doesn't mean adding lanes. Good grief slying Phil smdh

Common ground!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on August 08, 2019, 07:06:20 PM
Assuming Induced Demand is true, wouldn't the upshot be reduction of traffic on surface streets? That is a collateral benefit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 07:23:58 PM
I would be amazed to see how 435/35/70 etc. would look without consistent construction. Like, I’m talking the flow of traffic. Sounds like a dream.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 07:24:25 PM
Traffic is not a KC problem. All in on rebuild though,!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
Oh, I know. That’s why I didn’t bring it up with your initial question. I just wanna see a free 3, 4, 5 lane highway and how it works without constant construction. Kinda feels like we’re defeating the point at times.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2019, 07:42:26 PM
Oh, I know. That’s why I didn’t bring it up with your initial question. I just wanna see a free 3, 4, 5 lane highway and how it works without constant construction. Kinda feels like we’re defeating the point at times.

Sorry I meant that for spance comment. Forgot to quote him.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2019, 07:44:12 PM
No worries.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on August 14, 2019, 06:58:29 AM
https://twitter.com/kansascitycome1/status/1160777519995531266


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2019, 07:24:01 AM
Staged
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 14, 2019, 07:29:07 AM
Wut?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2019, 07:42:49 AM
Maga
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2019, 08:00:46 AM
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1159673675357884417?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 14, 2019, 08:10:14 AM
russian bots spreading videos of confrontations means the confrontations are staged?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 14, 2019, 08:11:18 AM
Wut?
Mainly just kidding, but what a weird account. I think everything is staged on social media these days. Conspiracy theory thread?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 14, 2019, 08:13:44 AM
Wut?
Mainly just kidding, but what a weird account. I think everything is staged on social media these days. Conspiracy theory thread?
A lot of stuff I'm sure is, but that would be a really wild move for that lady to do such reputational damage to herself voluntarily.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2019, 08:45:42 AM
https://twitter.com/kansascitycome1/status/1160777519995531266


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Thanks lukedave (maga thread)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 14, 2019, 10:37:36 PM
Is this a safe space for apartment (crossroads/downtown/rivermarket/plaza/old_plaza(get shot walking down the street but near mocat)) talk?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2019, 10:56:30 PM
Go nuts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 14, 2019, 10:57:36 PM
Ok.
Go NUTs
GO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 06:40:33 AM
Is this a safe space for apartment (crossroads/downtown/rivermarket/plaza/old_plaza(get shot walking down the street but near mocat)) talk?

Specific building feedback might be more helpful to you. Overall living in any of these neighborhoods is a great idea. Depends on what your priorities are (short commute, entertainment, etc)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2019, 07:45:40 AM
I wonder how the new units at 27th & gillham will be (already are?) priced. Good spot imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 08:23:45 AM
I wonder how the new units at 27th & gillham will be (already are?) priced. Good spot imo

I struggle with that whole area. To the north is a bunch of nothingness until you get to Pershing. Martini corner stuff is kind of close I guess. Just seems like you'd have to drive (or maybe bike) to about anything at least until the streetcar expansion. Can't believe there isn't more retail there given all the units already there.

I've entertained the townhouses right there that are for sale but above is why I haven't made the jump.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2019, 09:10:19 AM
I wonder how the new units at 27th & gillham will be (already are?) priced. Good spot imo

what makes it a good spot?  i can't think of anything when considering other options which are good spots.  like slyin' titola said, there's nothing there.  i guess you could hang at the mid-27 food mart on weekends?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 09:20:18 AM
Lot of succotash breakfast and teocali dinners I guess. Only a half mile walk to sol ?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 09:25:36 AM
Hipster USA!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2019, 10:06:25 AM
i thought of teocali too but it's only marginally better (if that) than rudy's
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2019, 10:25:00 AM
yeah you guys are probably right, it is a bit isolated. i am biased from getting around on a bike; it's very close to xroads and martini on a bike.
btw that little road through there (mcgee trafficway) is an enormous pro-tip for biking up the hill from xroads to midtown. there is no easier route.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 10:26:38 AM
yeah you guys are probably right, it is a bit isolated. i am biased from getting around on a bike; it's very close to xroads and martini on a bike.
btw that little road through there (mcgee trafficway) is an enormous pro-tip for biking up from xroads to midtown. there is no easier route.

If you are a biker it would be much better neighborhood I'd think. McGee trafficway will be getting a bike lane when all done too. With all the new units some more retail is bound to pop in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2019, 10:33:17 AM
it already has a bike lane*


*covered in debris and busch light cans from the construction crew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 15, 2019, 10:46:55 AM
So what if I said I LOVED Up-Down and wanted something within Bird or walking distance, what are my options?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2019, 11:07:40 AM
would need budget deets
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2019, 11:09:14 AM
aside from tower, doesn't martini corner suck now? 
it was p good a decade ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 11:13:27 AM
aside from tower, doesn't martini corner suck now? 
it was p good a decade ago

I've been there twice this summer both on Sunday. Lot of industry types. I still enjoy sol. Ollie's served me a gross out brunch meal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2019, 11:15:44 AM
https://hotpads.com/1914-main-apartments-kansas-city-mo-64108-1kngq3v/pad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 11:16:46 AM
So what if I said I LOVED Up-Down and wanted something within Bird or walking distance, what are my options?

Is waiting for city club being built now an option? Their site says summer 2019 but no way that's happening. Maybe end of year but seems unlikely.  Bunch of buildings around crossroads hotel have different pricing options.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 11:19:18 AM
it already has a bike lane*


*covered in debris and busch light cans from the construction crew

But these will have green paint (supposedly)
(https://i2.wp.com/uc-bproperties.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/2718-McGee-Trafficway-0001.jpg?zoom=2.625&resize=770%2C386&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 11:26:31 AM
I met Mrs. Wacky at Sol on a Sunday Funday. That's about the only place around there that I actually love. Tower is fine too. I'll never forget watching someone get curb stomped outside one of those clubs on a late Saturday night.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 15, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
aside from tower, doesn't martini corner suck now? 
it was p good a decade ago

Tower is the correct answer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 15, 2019, 12:01:08 PM
So what if I said I LOVED Up-Down and wanted something within Bird or walking distance, what are my options?

Is waiting for city club being built now an option? Their site says summer 2019 but no way that's happening. Maybe end of year but seems unlikely.  Bunch of buildings around crossroads hotel have different pricing options.

Yeah it would be an option. I don’t see any prices listed on their website, maybe I missed them somewhere.

Also the one lib posted is interesting.

would need budget deets

I already pay $1200 for a 2 bedroom now and would be willing to go up to ~$1700 if it was something I really liked.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2019, 12:52:46 PM
ok then, with that budget in kc the world of kc is your oyster.  pick where you feel comfortable and sign on the dotted line

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2019, 12:53:44 PM
i’d tell you too that the quoted website lease #’s are all negotiable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 01:02:03 PM
I’d do the River Market or look into downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 01:07:22 PM
2 bed downtown for 1700 might be tight based on what I've been hearing , especially for the new stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 15, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
get a 1br loft in the crossroads overlooking the downtown skyline
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
Live in Waldo for $850 a month and then blow that extra $900 a month on fun crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2019, 01:13:10 PM
Do not leave your shoes outside tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 15, 2019, 01:20:33 PM
You can do alright at 1700.  Not 2 Light but alright.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 01:38:13 PM
You can do alright at 1700.  Not 2 Light but alright.

I was thinking more availability.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 01:39:24 PM
Do not leave your shoes outside tho
:Keke:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 01:40:04 PM
You can do Baltimore lofts for about $1200 and have some bad ass views.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 15, 2019, 01:44:38 PM
You can do Baltimore lofts for about $1200 and have some bad ass views.

That building doesn't have rentals anymore. Going through a hotel renovation. A buddy of mine did have sweet rent there for years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 01:45:45 PM
Yeah, so did Mrs. Wacky. That kinda sucks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 15, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Hmm...lots to consider. My lease isn’t up for a bit tho since I’ve only been in my current place for like 3 months. I was looking around and found some places for like ~$600 a month downtown. Then I looked closer and they are income restricted and I make way more than what the max is.

I like some of the newer places downtown but I want a 2 bedroom because I like having an office. Most of the newest places are more than I want to spend tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2019, 01:57:17 PM
420seriouscat69 can probably hook you up with a kickball ump job that you can claim as your income. No negative consequences
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 02:01:33 PM
420seriouscat69 can probably hook you up with a kickball ump job that you can claim as your income. No negative consequences
Yup. You can be next door neighbors with Mr. Anton, while slaying fillies together 24/7/365. What a summer!  :eye: :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 02:03:28 PM
I honestly believe those income restrictive places are 50/50 of people who actually need them (waiters and crap) compared to smart business men who use some 2nd income thingy to get in.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2019, 03:07:15 PM
can't wait for those sweet downtown views that 9 Light is going to have, worth every penny of the rent they ask imo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 15, 2019, 03:09:58 PM
#12Light
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 15, 2019, 03:23:43 PM
Not even thinking of one of those until 20 Light
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2019, 03:30:29 PM
420seriouscat69 can probably hook you up with a kickball ump job that you can claim as your income. No negative consequences
Yup. You can be next door neighbors with Mr. Anton, while slaying fillies together 24/7/365. What a summer!  :eye: :love:

let me guess, your neighbor on the other side was Mr. Louie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2019, 03:35:27 PM
I'm sorry this irritates you, bud. It's a fact that the owner of Anton's lived in the same unit as me. My other neighbor was some dude slaying 6 figs as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2019, 04:00:24 PM
Mr. Bar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on August 16, 2019, 08:53:16 AM
I'm sorry this irritates you, bud. It's a fact that the owner of Anton's lived in the same unit as me. My other neighbor was some dude slaying 6 figs as well.

was it timhawk?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 16, 2019, 08:55:22 AM
He was a fellow cat, well played, tho.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 16, 2019, 03:14:36 PM
My kids love the crap out of that red & white climbing thing at Union Station.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 16, 2019, 03:35:11 PM
My kids love the crap out of that red & white climbing thing at Union Station.

It's like a moth to a light bulb for kids
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2019, 04:09:17 PM
:excited:

https://twitter.com/BuildKCI/status/1167152211614425088?s=19

https://twitter.com/BuildKCI/status/1167152878684950528?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 29, 2019, 04:10:25 PM
NSFW
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2019, 05:21:28 PM
wow such a fresh groundbreaking design
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 29, 2019, 05:32:31 PM
wow such a fresh groundbreaking design
Function over form
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 29, 2019, 10:34:02 PM
Looks like Tulsa’s airport. Congrats.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 29, 2019, 10:36:11 PM
wow such a fresh groundbreaking design

Midwestern value(s) won out.

Our last one was a groundbreaking design that was the toilets as soon as it opened
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 29, 2019, 10:44:46 PM
I like it  :Carl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2019, 10:53:05 PM
wow such a fresh groundbreaking design

Midwestern value(s) won out.

Our last one was a groundbreaking design that was the toilets as soon as it opened

I initially thought it was like Grand Rapids new-ish terminal but Grand Rapids was probably more bold

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/fe/d1/01fed1e3cca4a4c0318a2aeb699d768b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 30, 2019, 12:31:48 AM
don’t mind all of the dead birds everywhere, we got room for live jazz
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 30, 2019, 12:35:21 AM
the design fits kansas city very well.  it’s bland, flavorless, and generic.  seems like a perfect way to spend $2 billion
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 30, 2019, 06:33:28 AM
Lmao it's too expensive! Now it's not expensive enough!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on August 30, 2019, 07:26:49 AM
It's kinda carport-y.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 30, 2019, 07:39:59 AM
we don't need to build a streetcar!

why isn't the streetcar route longer!?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 30, 2019, 08:00:27 AM
wow such a fresh groundbreaking design

Midwestern value(s) won out.

Our last one was a groundbreaking design that was the toilets as soon as it opened

I initially thought it was like Grand Rapids new-ish terminal but Grand Rapids was probably more bold

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/fe/d1/01fed1e3cca4a4c0318a2aeb699d768b.jpg)

That's a nice termy too. Nice work GR!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 30, 2019, 08:46:32 AM
we don't need to build a streetcar!

why isn't the streetcar route longer!?
OH NO!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on August 30, 2019, 08:53:59 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfqX1jdBbKMbyW0xiKL5d1-CieqArCW5Cr6TyLBiV3KiFbofnYPw)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 30, 2019, 09:07:49 AM
not gE'ing what are some examples of ground breaking airport design at the departure dropoff area?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on August 30, 2019, 09:13:07 AM
not gE'ing what are some examples of ground breaking airport design at the departure dropoff area?

"Slogans at the time of the bond issue were "The world's shortest walk to fly" and "Drive to your gate"."

Source: Wikipedia
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2019, 01:56:05 PM
where's the best place in KC for men's suits/sports coats/etc.  need to freshen up the wardrobe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2019, 02:04:09 PM
michael's bro
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2019, 04:27:35 PM
halls men's store, hudson & jane,
i don't really like brooks bros crap
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
I don’t like Brooks Bros suits. I like their shirts and ties. Jos A Bank has steals on suits if you can buy off the rack. I’ve had them custom some for me but it’s like $1k and you can get an off the rack one for like $300 on clearance and have them tailor it for you and there is almost no difference in fit. You can’t pick out lapel style and crap but not a big deal imo unless you are picky.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2019, 05:00:51 PM
This is obv a non-KC things tip as these are chains.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 06, 2019, 05:04:40 PM
Get that non-KC garbage out of here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2019, 06:12:47 PM
ya i like b bros shirts but their suits and jackets are pudcity america
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on September 06, 2019, 07:04:03 PM
I have an unstructured BB jacket that I quite like. It's more the type of thing you wear with jeans, tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2019, 07:10:20 PM
not gE'ing what are some examples of ground breaking airport design at the departure dropoff area?

none but people seemed excited over this one for some reason
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 06, 2019, 08:48:37 PM
not gE'ing what are some examples of ground breaking airport design at the departure dropoff area?

none but people seemed excited over this one for some reason

Had you been to our airport?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2019, 08:51:53 PM
not gE'ing what are some examples of ground breaking airport design at the departure dropoff area?

none but people seemed excited over this one for some reason

Pittsburgh is what KC should aspire to be. Their airport is efficient and elite AF.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 06, 2019, 11:56:07 PM
Confirmed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 07, 2019, 05:17:41 PM
not gE'ing what are some examples of ground breaking airport design at the departure dropoff area?

none but people seemed excited over this one for some reason

Pittsburgh is what KC should aspire to be. Their airport is efficient and elite AF.

aren't they having to downgrade that thing when USAir got gobbled up?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 12, 2019, 08:51:38 AM
https://twitter.com/taylorhemness/status/1172101468788350977?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 12, 2019, 08:57:22 AM
Squawk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 12, 2019, 09:21:12 AM
had no idea she's from KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2019, 04:06:37 PM
Raged w DOB and X last night in deathport wow what a time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 14, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
Wut
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on September 15, 2019, 12:09:13 AM
sounds amaze, chode
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 15, 2019, 12:17:27 AM
The west bottoms party tonight slapped pretty good.  Wish they did it every month
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 15, 2019, 10:49:27 AM
I went out and partied in KC too for someone’s B-Day was p fun
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 15, 2019, 01:30:59 PM
has anyone ever successfully mumped up an amazing event as big as the AR?  Man, when it was in the bottoms later in the year that was the literal best.  jacket weather, hay bales, bands under the bridges.  Just a right touch of spookyness along with an out and out party.

The speedway is awful and no one cool even has a tent anymore...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 16, 2019, 03:12:12 AM
Yeah the event is a shell of itself. Pretty sad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 18, 2019, 11:45:19 AM
Raged w DOB and X last night in deathport wow what a time

Wut

JO and Sneed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 18, 2019, 12:14:45 PM
Oh, sweet.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on September 30, 2019, 08:48:08 PM
Iceland Air

*denny matthews voice*

GONE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2019, 08:58:15 PM
That's too bad, it was very convenient
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 30, 2019, 09:13:36 PM
Dang, I kinda wanted to go.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2019, 07:51:09 AM
Killed SFO the same day. :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
Guys, I think my new favorite burger is at Burg and Barrel now. My word, so good. :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 12, 2019, 01:54:14 PM
Guys, I think my new favorite burger is at Burg and Barrel now. My word, so good. :love:

More deets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2019, 01:59:29 PM
I should have taken a pic. It was called the Diablo. Buffalo sauce, blue cheese, jalapeños, lettuce, tomatoes, some hot siracha sauce aoli with an onion ring. It was unreal. Amazing list of beers as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 12, 2019, 02:06:35 PM
:Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 12, 2019, 02:14:44 PM
Needs more ranch
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 12, 2019, 02:29:37 PM
(https://media.tenor.com/images/bb2e8029c08801b936f6235eb4e10e1c/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 12, 2019, 03:19:57 PM
I should have taken a pic. It was called the Diablo. Buffalo sauce, blue cheese, jalapeños, lettuce, tomatoes, some hot siracha sauce aoli with an onion ring. It was unreal. Amazing list of beers as well.

Thin or thick burg?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2019, 03:55:51 PM
Thick AF! I really should have taken a pic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 12, 2019, 04:06:24 PM
It looks like this: https://www.burgandbarrel.com/fullscreen-page/comp-joywr8hd/b8f34392-287a-4507-b58c-9b5d89454424/4/%3Fi%3D4%26p%3DmainPage%26s%3Dstyle-joywr8py
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 12, 2019, 04:13:01 PM
Like thicc thick or thick thick
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2019, 04:14:18 PM
Where's the barrel?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2019, 04:14:18 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 12, 2019, 04:15:17 PM
It looks like this: https://www.burgandbarrel.com/fullscreen-page/comp-joywr8hd/b8f34392-287a-4507-b58c-9b5d89454424/4/%3Fi%3D4%26p%3DmainPage%26s%3Dstyle-joywr8py

Oh my
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2019, 04:15:57 PM
Where's the barrel?
You have to sit it next to you. Open tap and all. :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on October 13, 2019, 05:24:55 PM
I live down the street from the burg n barrel and have had that burger 5+ times. Its amazing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 13, 2019, 06:28:37 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2019, 07:49:47 AM
https://twitter.com/annehelen/status/1192062232655515650?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 06, 2019, 08:00:14 AM
https://twitter.com/annehelen/status/1192074820197982209
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 06, 2019, 08:22:01 AM
lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2019, 08:23:58 AM
I voted to save the Paseo  :shy:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2019, 08:56:42 AM
https://twitter.com/annehelen/status/1192074820197982209
It's a really bad look when you get the full context too! Should have renamed 39th MLK instead and also not been so sloppy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2019, 09:07:24 AM
having strong feelings on this issue is pretty lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2019, 11:27:00 AM
having strong feelings on this issue is pretty lol
this take is a really bad look

Keep in mind I don't have strong feelings about this but I don't think I need to diminish the opinions of paseo residents and civil rights activists on either side here.

I would maybe lol at a white person who doesn't live on or near the Paseo and is strongly opposed to renaming it MLK but that feels too racist to laugh at.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2019, 11:32:58 AM
Like anybody who is strongly against naming a street MLKJr has absolutely no idea who Paseo was named after and is just a weirdo. I mean all the street signs were already changed. I have no idea why you would physically take yourself to the polls to reverse what already happened
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2019, 11:53:43 AM
Like anybody who is strongly against naming a street MLKJr has absolutely no idea who Paseo was named after and is just a weirdo. I mean all the street signs were already changed. I have no idea why you would physically take yourself to the polls to reverse what already happened
I don't think it's weird for the residents to care or for people who wanted to keep it MLK to care. I mean it isn't unrealistic to want to have a more broad discussion instead of just picking a street in a black neighborhood which is what it looks like happened. Plus paseo is the coolest street name in Kansas City
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2019, 11:59:51 AM
Like anybody who is strongly against naming a street MLKJr has absolutely no idea who Paseo was named after and is just a weirdo. I mean all the street signs were already changed. I have no idea why you would physically take yourself to the polls to reverse what already happened

 :peek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2019, 12:07:18 PM
In the end, either way has no effect on my life, so I wouldn't say I strongly care about this, but I like keeping the Paseo. There are plenty of other options. The whole process was a bit forced, which is why you see the pushback now.

The minister group or whatever that pushed the Paseo already has enough petition signatures for it to be be on the next ballot again to change back to mlk lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2019, 03:41:51 PM
https://twitter.com/annehelen/status/1192074820197982209
It's a really bad look when you get the full context too! Should have renamed 39th MLK instead and also not been so sloppy

I was hoping for 63rd to really get BKS cringing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2019, 04:28:07 PM
having strong feelings on this issue is pretty lol
this take is a really bad look

Keep in mind I don't have strong feelings about this but I don't think I need to diminish the opinions of paseo residents and civil rights activists on either side here.

I would maybe lol at a white person who doesn't live on or near the Paseo and is strongly opposed to renaming it MLK but that feels too racist to laugh at.

i didn't see your edit until now. you're probably right
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2019, 07:07:33 PM
I didn't follow the process but didn't they have an assload of civic leaders on the panel to make a recommendation and the council took their recommendation and implemented it? 

That's why I voted no. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on November 06, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Why not just turn a numbered street into MLK  Blvd or whatever? That's what Austin did. Much cleaner way to go.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 06, 2019, 07:37:50 PM
Why not just turn a numbered street into MLK  Blvd or whatever? That's what Austin did. Much cleaner way to go.

That would work especially well in KC as it would bridge the "east side" west.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/you-smelt-it-iowa-dealt-it-cold-front-brings-agriculture-smell-to-kansas-city

I didn't notice it yesterday, but this morning I noticed it when I left for work. rough ridin' floodies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on November 07, 2019, 10:00:25 PM
Don't rename shawnee mission parkway or shawnee mission kia's radio jingle won't rhyme at all
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: hemmy on November 07, 2019, 10:02:18 PM
Ate at the OP pizza shuttle. Service sucked but still good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 07, 2019, 10:51:33 PM
Ate at the OP pizza shuttle. Service sucked but still good.

Sober?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 22, 2019, 10:39:25 AM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/scott_kark/status/1197738713570316288?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 22, 2019, 11:47:22 AM
how about that big huge crane downtown, eh guys?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 22, 2019, 01:08:54 PM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/scott_kark/status/1197738713570316288?s=20
i met nick at capital grille one night while pak’in, nice guy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 22, 2019, 01:22:05 PM
He was trending today.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 22, 2019, 02:15:25 PM
how about that big huge crane downtown, eh guys?

There’s been a big crane downtown for like a while
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 22, 2019, 02:53:58 PM
how about that big huge crane downtown, eh guys?

There’s been a big crane downtown for like a while
i'm talkin the one by city hall.  that thing is HUUUUGE!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 22, 2019, 02:55:35 PM
how about that big huge crane downtown, eh guys?

There’s been a big crane downtown for like a while

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&mid=1uZcOcvg2N4ddt37095r29J3Neto&ll=39.09875245896947%2C-94.58946393962401&z=15

Is Bob gE?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 28, 2019, 04:34:41 PM
the plaza lighting ceremony
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 28, 2019, 04:36:31 PM
the fuckers have been blaring christmas music since 8 am, i thought about calling in a noise complaint but didn’t want to be called a scrooge
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 28, 2019, 05:43:34 PM
the fuckers have been blaring christmas music since 8 am, i thought about calling in a noise complaint but didn’t want to be called a scrooge
Who is turning them on
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 28, 2019, 05:49:30 PM
the fuckers have been blaring christmas music since 8 am, i thought about calling in a noise complaint but didn’t want to be called a scrooge
Who is turning them on

Some female snl member from KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 28, 2019, 06:05:19 PM
heidi gardner
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: eastcat on December 07, 2019, 10:01:16 PM
Brian Smith is in jail guys.

How has this not been discussed?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 07, 2019, 11:03:36 PM
Is this a big deal?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 08, 2019, 07:23:37 AM
no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 08, 2019, 09:17:51 AM
Who’s Brian Smith?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 08, 2019, 11:39:16 AM
Who’s Brian Smith?

Just another KC restaurant owner that liked to rape girls.  He owned Rockstar burgers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 08, 2019, 12:01:13 PM
Free bus/streetcar is driving some magas cray.  There were even some suggesting to buy poor people cars instead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 08, 2019, 01:31:22 PM
I've never even heard of Rockstar burgers until this happened and I'm like an extreme burgerphile
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on December 10, 2019, 08:27:59 AM
https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1204204787304222720

Seems like a stupid thing to freak out about on twitter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on December 10, 2019, 09:08:57 AM
Being from Kansas City I've never really thought about how people get confused about what state its in but I can see where they are coming from.

#1 - So the city of Kansas City is in the state of Missouri and not the state of Kansas?

#2 - Yes. But there is also a Kansas City Kansas but its smaller.

#1 - Gotcha, so most people from Kansas City live in Missouri?

#2 - Well yeah, if they are literally from Kansas City MO they are from Missouri but in the metro like 1/3 of the people live in Kansas.

#1 - This is too confusing, I'm not going to waste any more of my brain power on your flyover city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2019, 12:54:37 PM
Being from Kansas City I've never really thought about how people get confused about what state its in but I can see where they are coming from.

#1 - So the city of Kansas City is in the state of Missouri and not the state of Kansas?

#2 - Yes. But there is also a Kansas City Kansas but its smaller.

#1 - Gotcha, so most people from Kansas City live in Missouri?

#2 - Well yeah, if they are literally from Kansas City MO they are from Missouri but in the metro like 1/3 of the people live in Kansas.

#1 - This is too confusing, I'm not going to waste any more of my brain power on your flyover city.

yes, very confusing for those who don't really care.  I applied this same logic when I ever try and get upset but the Missouri thing but I'm a TSC guy so maybe that's why I secretly enjoy the confusion.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2019, 01:53:52 PM
Went to Brewers Kitchen for lunch today with the misses. Down by Martini Corner. Phenomenal hamburgers and local drink options. By far the best brussel sprouts I’ve ever had as well. Burg was 6/7 and the fries were a 5/7, however in house homemade condiments land a 7/7.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/33df9572338622e4a71a6f0c14fe8a03.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/4925632e588b4baab65832430f353021.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/c0c98c7a2d6db584ecaf2991c8d970e8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/90f530bb960e6e39a2903757088b889f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/6f2d9019b59956a5057567ae1dba6b00.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/88b30c1bcb96f70876a884a3379de1a1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/3883c70949d4c1687a7746566d29137b.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2019, 01:59:53 PM
Looks pretty dece 420seriouscat69
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2019, 02:18:26 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on December 13, 2019, 02:23:06 PM
what the hell are they serving those fries/sprouts in?  v hipster wacks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2019, 02:40:05 PM
Lol. It’s like a tub you would keep cut up lemons in at the bar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on December 13, 2019, 02:44:56 PM
everything looks a little over-cooked. I mean, I'd eat it but it looks dry.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2019, 02:46:56 PM
I should have taken a pick after I bit into it. It was cooked perfectly, but I wasn't that impressed by the fries.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: deputy dawg on December 13, 2019, 03:37:30 PM
If you like really high-end cocktails, Union Horse Distillery in Lenexa is starting to have regular cocktail events.  I don't normally buy or drink cocktails, but thought the $12 for the drinks I had was pretty steep.  But wow, they were good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2019, 03:42:28 PM
Nice. I don't believe I've ever been there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on December 13, 2019, 03:53:40 PM
hate to be a dick, but that belongs in the Lenexa things thread. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 13, 2019, 04:16:51 PM
i saw a hilarious tweet from a place called "Burg & Barrel"  :Yuck: in OP that was telling people to come try a torn label beer that's been sold in liquor stores for like 8 years  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2019, 04:39:08 PM
That place is actually pretty good. They have two locations.  ;)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 16, 2020, 10:00:23 PM
https://youtu.be/B6B86zW9JPU
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on January 17, 2020, 08:26:35 AM
tried going to Strang Hall in OP last weekend, couldn't get a table.  went to the peanut and hammered wings instead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 17, 2020, 08:30:29 AM
https://youtu.be/B6B86zW9JPU

surprisingly decent advice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on January 18, 2020, 04:45:29 AM
https://youtu.be/B6B86zW9JPU

surprisingly decent advice
I like the part where he says you don't see any movies about World War I when there is literally one in theaters right now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 02, 2020, 12:10:24 PM
Anything going in the PnL Bar Louie spot or is it gonna be empty (getting renovated for something else?) for B12?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2020, 12:13:07 PM
Our search function sucks and I can't find the Lenexa thread, but this is terrifying. I thought I heard gun shots last night and I definitely saw cherries going off while I was feeding my child. This is like two blocks from us.


https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1234540807954272257?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2020, 12:37:05 PM
Anything going in the PnL Bar Louie spot or is it gonna be empty (getting renovated for something else?) for B12?

Nothing will be there for big 12.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 02, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
Our search function sucks and I can't find the Lenexa thread, but this is terrifying. I thought I heard gun shots last night and I definitely saw cherries going off while I was feeding my child. This is like two blocks from us.


https://twitter.com/KCStar/status/1234540807954272257?s=20
Cherries?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2020, 01:11:09 PM
 :cop lights:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2020, 01:13:12 PM
Flashing lights, son.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 02, 2020, 01:17:22 PM
Time to move to Olathe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2020, 01:30:00 PM
cherries lol

how about that murder in deathport this weekend, never safe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2020, 01:32:14 PM
cherries lol

how about that murder in deathport this weekend, never safe
That stuff was cray cray

Time to move to Olathe
Leawood
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 02, 2020, 07:09:04 PM
Flashing lights, son.
Is this a thing the kids are saying, or something the olds used to say? I have IRL never heard of it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on March 02, 2020, 07:12:44 PM
i've only heard it used by olds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2020, 07:13:02 PM
Flashing lights, son.
Is this a thing the kids are saying, or something the olds used to say? I have IRL never heard of it.
Lol. No earthly idea.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2020, 07:48:45 PM
Reminds me of blues Brothers when they called cop lights "rollers".

Never heard either of those terms and guys, I know cops, like a lot. Probably the best cops. People say that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2020, 08:13:11 PM
I don’t know why they’re called that (I mean, I do. They look like bright cherries going off), but they are. Pop those cherries, son.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 02, 2020, 08:26:04 PM
Remember the gang initiation where the bad guy would get into the car of someone two degrees from you while they were getting gas and were going to murder said person so the bad guy could get into the gang but the cashier saw it and warned the friend of a friend?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 02, 2020, 08:29:13 PM
Cherries and berries is something I've heard from a lot of white trash Topeka people, maybe it never made its way to fancy Johnson County
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2020, 08:36:41 PM
Cherries and berries is something I've heard from a lot of white trash Topeka people, maybe it never made its way to fancy Johnson County

But it did!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 03, 2020, 04:55:27 PM
heard it growing up in NC kansas. Not very often though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 04, 2020, 09:16:33 AM
Are you guys talking about Shari's Berries? That is a website.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2020, 11:24:04 AM
What’s everybody doing today? I’m kidless for the next 24 hours and have zero plans now because the Brookside parade got shut down. I should probably do lunch somewhere and then a movie? Is there anything good out? What’s good to eat in the city these days? I’m lost.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 14, 2020, 11:29:04 AM
What’s everybody doing today? I’m kidless for the next 24 hours and have zero plans now because the Brookside parade got shut down. I should probably do lunch somewhere and then a movie? Is there anything good out? What’s good to eat in the city these days? I’m lost.

Go to fox and pearl
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 14, 2020, 11:34:24 AM
Looks tasty! I’ll run it by the Mrs. Thank you! I don’t get out much anymore.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2020, 12:15:32 PM
What’s everybody doing today? I’m kidless for the next 24 hours and have zero plans now because the Brookside parade got shut down. I should probably do lunch somewhere and then a movie? Is there anything good out? What’s good to eat in the city these days? I’m lost.
Stay in
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 14, 2020, 01:00:27 PM
1pm of Day 1 staying in. I will for sure go insane.

Apologize in advance for my posts/tweets
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 09, 2020, 10:09:57 PM
Wacky!

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/fy28t5/friend_whos_a_nurse_got_his_shoes_stolen_off_his/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 09, 2020, 10:57:23 PM
Wacky!

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/fy28t5/friend_whos_a_nurse_got_his_shoes_stolen_off_his/
SON OF A BITCH! :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 20, 2020, 11:45:54 PM
Great talk


https://twitter.com/strongtowns/status/1251589327584473091
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2020, 04:04:01 PM
Deathport, yes! :ksu:

https://www.kansascitymag.com/westport-streets-could-become-patio-cafes-during-pandemic-mayor-q-supports-road-closure-plan/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2020, 04:10:22 PM
Deathport, yes! :ksu:

https://www.kansascitymag.com/westport-streets-could-become-patio-cafes-during-pandemic-mayor-q-supports-road-closure-plan/

Great idea that should be implemented everywhere in the city if a business wants it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2020, 04:21:20 PM
Sorry Phil, but your anti-street-closing ass isn't allowed to enjoy this, deathport does not forget!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 04, 2020, 04:44:11 PM
good idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 04, 2020, 06:54:44 PM
Sorry Phil, but your anti-street-closing ass isn't allowed to enjoy this, deathport does not forget!

 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2020, 09:40:55 AM
those are city streets that are paid for by taxpayers, including the JOCO living etax people.  the streets don't belong to the businesses and should not be closed for any reason.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 05, 2020, 12:43:01 PM
(https://i.gifer.com/I4K1.gif)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 06, 2020, 11:13:51 PM
can any of you kc area connected cats look at some zoning plans or whatever and tell me what jefferson street is getting turned into in front of the new nordstrom

i know it’s getting reduced to one way, north to south, but wtf mate are these construction people doing.
this thread is worthless without pics so please post them
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Looks like both directions.  Will make crossing Jefferson on foot way more pleasant
(https://i.imgur.com/PgGctnE.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2020, 09:05:53 AM
thanks, glad that you realized i was asking you for this   :cool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2020, 09:10:14 AM
yeah i've been after public works to put better crossing signs on jefferson for a while, this will solve the problem
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 07, 2020, 09:33:03 AM
Quarantine Phil v PC.  :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on May 07, 2020, 09:43:07 AM
I'm not a civil engineer and am not sure what I'm looking at. Are they turning the road into a canal?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2020, 09:53:02 AM
Quarantine Phil v PC.  :bwpopcorn:

We are aligned now!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2020, 09:53:41 AM
thanks, glad that you realized i was asking you for this   :cool:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 07, 2020, 10:23:08 AM
I'm not a civil engineer and am not sure what I'm looking at. Are they turning the road into a canal?

Looks like we are just painting it a different color.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 07, 2020, 12:31:28 PM
I can't wait to pak my ass off and puke on the new crosswalk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 10, 2020, 04:21:30 PM
I drove all over KC today just to jam out and get out of the house for a bit. Damn we live in a beautiful city! :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on May 10, 2020, 06:54:45 PM
Don't roll down the windows on The Plaza. God that ditch stinks.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2020, 08:46:05 PM
Brio closed for good (it was trash anyway)
Zocalo is also closing
Kona may be as well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2020, 10:09:37 PM
chum!

https://twitter.com/travis_robert/status/1259167711730511874?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 11, 2020, 12:26:47 PM
Brio closed for good (it was trash anyway)
Zocalo is also closing
Kona may be as well

These are good examples of the herd needing to be culled.  Probably for the best for the plaza.  However, once upon a time, I used to hit Kona pretty regularly, but has been years ago now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 11, 2020, 12:27:34 PM
I hope Houston's sweeps in and takes an empty spot. We need Houston's back, man.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 11, 2020, 12:30:57 PM
I'm hoping for a second cheesecake factory
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2020, 01:10:45 PM
Restaurants/bars/gyms opening Friday.  Who is going? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 11, 2020, 01:14:51 PM
I might go people watch from afar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 11, 2020, 01:16:27 PM
I might go people watch from afar

I think I'm limiting to places with outdoor seating.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on May 11, 2020, 01:53:32 PM
https://twitter.com/StephenSerda/status/1259901397677547521
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2020, 11:46:21 AM
Brio closed for good (it was trash anyway)
Zocalo is also closing
Kona may be as well

Zocalo announced they are open today.  No word from Kona or Brio (good riddance)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 15, 2020, 12:18:49 PM
Kona use to be my date spot. I don't wanna to see it go.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2020, 01:14:47 PM
Kona use to be my date spot. I don't wanna to see it go.  :frown:

Lot of lovely hookups came out of that place.  The Annie's Santa Fe of its time (I've been told).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2020, 04:16:53 PM
Brio closed for good (it was trash anyway)
Zocalo is also closing
Kona may be as well

Zocalo announced they are open today.  No word from Kona or Brio (good riddance)
zoc is open, yes, but not for long
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 15, 2020, 06:25:35 PM
Brio closed for good (it was trash anyway)
Zocalo is also closing
Kona may be as well

Zocalo announced they are open today.  No word from Kona or Brio (good riddance)
zoc is open, yes, but not for long

I like(d) their brunch.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2020, 12:15:11 PM
the nordstrom 64112 development has been suspended
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 18, 2020, 12:30:26 PM
anyone dined in anywhere yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2020, 12:37:21 PM
anyone dined in anywhere yet?

waiting for it to be nice enough to chill outside.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 18, 2020, 01:45:23 PM
anyone dined in anywhere yet?
Went to Bristol (downtown) on Saturday night.  AMA.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 18, 2020, 01:46:42 PM
was it packed?  was it awkward?  was it worth it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 18, 2020, 02:01:04 PM
was it packed?  was it awkward?  was it worth it?
It wasn't packed at all.  The nearest seated table was probably 25 feet away from our table (which happened to be in one of private rooms in the southeast corner of the restaurant, if you're at all familiar).  Non-seated tables had some placards reading "this table is not in use per health directives" or something to that effect.  Server and kitchen staff were masked.

Did not feel awkward at all.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 18, 2020, 02:04:37 PM
Sat outside at both Streetcar Cafe for happy hour then Quaff at night.  Quaff got busy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 18, 2020, 03:17:18 PM
Sat outside at both Streetcar Cafe for happy hour then Quaff at night.  Quaff got busy

I love Quaff but I don't trust them to enforce any kind of distancing laid out by the city.  I'd probably chill on the sidewalk but that's it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 28, 2020, 01:38:53 PM
it is raining so goddamn much
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 28, 2020, 01:41:53 PM
it is raining so goddamn much

First day over like the past week and a half that the forecast was actually correct
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 28, 2020, 02:09:33 PM
https://twitter.com/nwskansascity/status/1266083022975033344
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 28, 2020, 02:15:38 PM
i got a few inches in the basement coming up from the sewer drain for the first time in a couple years
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 28, 2020, 03:11:28 PM
mill street & westport road is underwater by several feet, like maybe 4 or something
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 28, 2020, 03:19:30 PM
mill street & westport road is underwater by several feet, like maybe 4 or something

It's time to free Mill Creek. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 28, 2020, 03:20:50 PM
there are so many ways to die in deathport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on May 28, 2020, 04:15:37 PM
thankful i don't have a basement rn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 28, 2020, 04:18:12 PM
had a small river going in my basement, thankfully the sloping of basement and sewer drain did its job
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 28, 2020, 04:41:08 PM
had a small river going in my basement, thankfully the sloping of basement and sewer drain did its job

like coming in from the walls?  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 28, 2020, 04:42:33 PM
yep stone foundation. the walls had "weeped" before but never a steady stream/waterfall like this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 28, 2020, 05:15:38 PM
Gotta that coated with a nice thicc layer of mortar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on May 28, 2020, 05:21:16 PM
mill street & westport road is underwater by several feet, like maybe 4 or something

https://twitter.com/zerwekh/status/1266087276511145991
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 28, 2020, 05:23:08 PM
I saw some pictures of I-35 being flooded heading into downtown just on the Missouri side.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 28, 2020, 05:36:27 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/kansascity/comments/gscufi/roanoke_road_and_31st_st/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2020, 09:20:04 AM
what happened on the plaza last night was not a protest, it was a a riot
I watched from my living room as stores were being looted by organized gangs
rough ridin' ridiculous the mayor didn’t institute a curfew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2020, 10:53:43 AM
what happened on the plaza last night was not a protest, it was a a riot
I watched from my living room as stores were being looted by organized gangs
rough ridin' ridiculous the mayor didn’t institute a curfew

The real victim in this whole situation is the windows of North Face.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2020, 11:08:06 AM
broken windows?
there was a riot down here last night with full on looting
helzberg, kona, anthro,vinca, gram and dun, seasons 52, nike, starbucks to name a few
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 31, 2020, 12:00:02 PM
yep stone foundation. the walls had "weeped" before but never a steady stream/waterfall like this
sherwin williams has some stuff called loxon that works really well for that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2020, 12:38:52 PM
8pm curfew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2020, 01:01:43 PM
8pm curfew
good.  I actually reached out to Q this morning asking exactly for this but haven’t seen it announced anywhere yet
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 31, 2020, 02:00:28 PM
https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/1267148448102580226
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2020, 02:04:08 PM
ya finally found a link
last night was pretty scary
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 31, 2020, 02:15:48 PM
ya finally found a link
last night was pretty scary

Just go downstairs at 7:55 tonight and remind everyone that there is an 8 p.m. curfew. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2020, 08:24:54 PM
Clams what we got down there? I tucked myself home by 8 like a good compliant citizen.

Hope you are safe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2020, 08:30:06 PM
https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/1267266092197609473?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2020, 09:06:35 PM
things didn’t get really ugly last night until 10:30, but the cops didn’t have the curfew on their side to dissipate the crowds.  hoping I don’t see a repeat from last night.  the plaza is completely closed since last night with kcpd on every entrance blocking egress
went out this am to help clean and it was pretty depressing to see what they did
that tear gas ain’t no joke either
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2020, 10:22:50 PM
https://twitter.com/stricklymeg/status/1267292468686532608?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 31, 2020, 10:52:15 PM
Seems to be a lot better tonight overall
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 03, 2020, 08:53:23 AM
FYI if you work in KCMO but live outside of KCMO and have been working from home you can get a refund on the 1% KCMO earnings tax for the days you worked from home.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 03, 2020, 09:28:48 AM
FYI if you work in KCMO but live outside of KCMO and have been working from home you can get a refund on the 1% KCMO earnings tax for the days you worked from home.

how are you going about that?  i don't think i'll be working in KCMO for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on June 03, 2020, 09:35:23 AM
FYI if you work in KCMO but live outside of KCMO and have been working from home you can get a refund on the 1% KCMO earnings tax for the days you worked from home.

how are you going about that?  i don't think i'll be working in KCMO for the rest of the year.

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Form RD-109 is a tax return used by a resident individual taxpayer or a non-resident working in Kansas City, Missouri to file and pay the earnings tax of 1%. Form RD-109 should not be filed if the earnings tax due is fully withheld by the taxpayer’s employer. Form RD-109 is also used by a resident to request a refund if over withheld.

I don't work in KCMO so I'm not going to look into it too much but I think you just add up all the days that you worked outside of the city and then file that form and they cut you a check.

My dad used to do that in the 80's when he worked in KCMO, would keep track of all the days he traveled for work (which was like 5 or 10 at most) then make the city cut him a check for like $40.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2020, 09:37:09 AM
FYI if you work in KCMO but live outside of KCMO and have been working from home you can get a refund on the 1% KCMO earnings tax for the days you worked from home.

how are you going about that?  i don't think i'll be working in KCMO for the rest of the year.

Use form RD-109NR

https://www.kcmo.gov/city-hall/departments/finance/tax-home/tax-forms
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 03, 2020, 09:42:26 AM
probably just wait until the end of the year and do it all at once
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2020, 09:56:31 AM
probably just wait until the end of the year and do it all at once

Yeah you won't be able to do it until 2021 I don't think as you need wage tax forms.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2020, 10:05:50 AM
the plaza is closed again today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 03, 2020, 10:52:02 AM
the plaza is closed again today
Are the police lines f'ing with your access to your apt or anything?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2020, 11:00:43 AM
Did anything happen last night?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2020, 11:12:11 AM
Did anything happen last night?

Smaller protest and cops finally backed off instead of getting in the protestors faces with riot helmets.  Sounds like it went pretty late last night but not one gas container thrown at crowd so progress?

I bet the Plaza stays closed through the weekend at this point.  I don't see anyway there aren't protests everyday till then.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 03, 2020, 11:30:10 AM
Sucks for plaza businesses trying to make a comeback from the 'rona.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2020, 12:36:52 PM
Sucks for plaza businesses trying to make a comeback from the 'rona.
"hey small business owner, i know you've been closed for the last couple months and have no income coming in and sorry about the looters who smashed out thousands of dollars worth of glass and also, you're closed for a week because of racism."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2020, 12:40:10 PM
i left for costco about an hour ago and as i was leaving saw a mid-20's very disheveled, possibly homeless kid walking up summit towards 47th with his  backpack and an ar-15 style assault rifle.   told one of the police who are on sentry duty outside my house and he saw him too then called his buds but they couldn't find him.  which is kinda hard to believe because there's literally no way the kid could have escaped from the area since the nordstrom construction has things closed off.  i really hope he's not going to target protesters tonight.  police guy said mine was the 2nd report of this kid.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
does the Plaza still have small business owners? (honest q)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on June 03, 2020, 12:55:09 PM
FYI if you work in KCMO but live outside of KCMO and have been working from home you can get a refund on the 1% KCMO earnings tax for the days you worked from home.

My work has made a "home" location on our timesheets for that, but yes, you are correct you should get that refund
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2020, 01:38:56 PM
i left for costco about an hour ago and as i was leaving saw a mid-20's very disheveled, possibly homeless kid walking up summit towards 47th with his  backpack and an ar-15 style assault rifle.   told one of the police who are on sentry duty outside my house and he saw him too then called his buds but they couldn't find him.  which is kinda hard to believe because there's literally no way the kid could have escaped from the area since the nordstrom construction has things closed off.  i really hope he's not going to target protesters tonight.  police guy said mine was the 2nd report of this kid.

What can the PD do, that's not illegal in MO anymore is it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2020, 01:40:03 PM
does the Plaza still have small business owners? (honest q)

Off the top of my head I'd guss about 15-20% of tenants are local small businesses
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2020, 01:47:09 PM
I'd guess less than that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2020, 04:44:04 PM
i left for costco about an hour ago and as i was leaving saw a mid-20's very disheveled, possibly homeless kid walking up summit towards 47th with his  backpack and an ar-15 style assault rifle.   told one of the police who are on sentry duty outside my house and he saw him too then called his buds but they couldn't find him.  which is kinda hard to believe because there's literally no way the kid could have escaped from the area since the nordstrom construction has things closed off.  i really hope he's not going to target protesters tonight.  police guy said mine was the 2nd report of this kid.

What can the PD do, that's not illegal in MO anymore is it?
they can ask him for his permit (most homeless and/or mentally unstable people don’t have them)
he was obviously concerned enough to call over 7 other officers to find the guy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 03, 2020, 04:48:28 PM
does the Plaza still have small business owners? (honest q)
more than you would think
most of the restaurants/ pubs are locally owned
not much local retail which is as much a function of supply chain as anything to do w class a rent
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
i left for costco about an hour ago and as i was leaving saw a mid-20's very disheveled, possibly homeless kid walking up summit towards 47th with his  backpack and an ar-15 style assault rifle.   told one of the police who are on sentry duty outside my house and he saw him too then called his buds but they couldn't find him.  which is kinda hard to believe because there's literally no way the kid could have escaped from the area since the nordstrom construction has things closed off.  i really hope he's not going to target protesters tonight.  police guy said mine was the 2nd report of this kid.

What can the PD do, that's not illegal in MO anymore is it?
they can ask him for his permit (most homeless and/or mentally unstable people don’t have them)
he was obviously concerned enough to call over 7 other officers to find the guy

MO doesn't need permits anymore either?  I'm glad they were concerned.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on June 03, 2020, 04:54:22 PM
They should act as if he's black and do detain/arrest him for whatever pretextual thing they'd have done in that scenario.  Then, even if he is later charged with a crime and it's thrown out because of unlawful stop/search, wgaf, at least they prevented loony dude from shooting everyone.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
the state has no restrictions, but I believe city ordinance says you have to have a concealed permit to open carry (because they can't ban it)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 03, 2020, 05:17:02 PM
the state has no restrictions, but I believe city ordinance says you have to have a concealed permit to open carry (because they can't ban it)

I don't want to click on most links that suppoedly show the law like opencarry2ndamendementbetyourass.com so we'll go with wikipedia.

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Missouri allows open carry without a permit, so long as the firearm is not displayed in an angry or threatening manner.[22] Some localities prohibit open carry; however, concealed carry license holders are exempted from this restriction.[23]

I don't think KC has this but I can't imagine why we don't.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on June 03, 2020, 05:33:33 PM
the state has no restrictions, but I believe city ordinance says you have to have a concealed permit to open carry (because they can't ban it)

I don't want to click on most links that suppoedly show the law like opencarry2ndamendementbetyourass.com so we'll go with wikipedia.

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Missouri allows open carry without a permit, so long as the firearm is not displayed in an angry or threatening manner.[22] Some localities prohibit open carry; however, concealed carry license holders are exempted from this restriction.[23]

I don't think KC has this but I can't imagine why we don't.

Seems like a great legal standard. What if you're calmly open carrying but are merely afflicted with resting bitch face?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 12, 2020, 08:43:49 AM
!!

https://twitter.com/DJs_2020/status/1271428606581825538?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2020, 09:11:45 AM
This is fantastic news, I hope he's wildly successful
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2020, 09:28:48 AM
same office as my agent (huge stud). he should rake
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2020, 01:05:42 PM
Grumblings that the plaza is being barricaded off and the residents have deemed the area the "'clams habitat autonomous zone" (CHAZ). Situation is still developing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 12, 2020, 02:04:02 PM
 :cool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 30, 2020, 08:18:59 AM
https://twitter.com/LukeNozicka/status/1277941807914065920?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2020, 08:21:59 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 30, 2020, 10:53:13 PM
@phil, thoughts? This is covid life!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 30, 2020, 11:08:06 PM
No zings at anybody, this is incredibly bad and sad and I have no idea where to even start. This is going to be the worst year in kc's history
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 01, 2020, 07:44:05 AM
@phil, thoughts? This is covid life!

Thoughts on covid life? It sucks. Idiots keep us dragging it on instead of doing the right thing so we can start on the downward slope. KC so far has been doing okay I guess count wise.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2020, 07:51:45 AM
Nah, homicide rates setting a record in KC this year, during a pandemic (when we all should be inside). I’m not trying to be a smartass, but Mayor Q might want to focus.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 01, 2020, 08:33:25 AM
What is it you think he has been focused on instead?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2020, 08:40:31 AM
Everything but crime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 01, 2020, 08:55:20 AM
Nah, homicide rates setting a record in KC this year, during a pandemic (when we all should be inside). I’m not trying to be a smartass, but Mayor Q might want to focus.
Don't be an idiot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2020, 08:56:59 AM
 :dunno:

I guess I should spend my time bitching about restaurant names instead.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 01, 2020, 08:58:37 AM
That would be better, yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 01, 2020, 02:08:27 PM
https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1278382954406961157
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2020, 02:10:20 PM
Another gE success story.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 01, 2020, 03:28:03 PM
Nah, homicide rates setting a record in KC this year, during a pandemic (when we all should be inside). I’m not trying to be a smartass, but Mayor Q might want to focus.

Seriously messed up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 01, 2020, 05:31:45 PM
I'm not a sociologist (or a computer science professor), but my guess is that rampant unemployment is the culprit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 01, 2020, 06:52:18 PM
I'm not a sociologist (or a computer science professor), but my guess is that rampant unemployment is the culprit.

Can’t imagine what will happen when the federal unemployment checks run out in a month.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2020, 07:07:27 PM
Didn’t they extend it until November? I thought I heard that somewhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2020, 06:21:23 PM
https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/1278810715982348291?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 14, 2020, 09:49:44 AM
https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1282828620289970177?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 14, 2020, 09:52:35 AM
Eric is a confirmed total piece of crap. Dude took a naked picture of a woman who was tied up and blackmailed her with it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 11:58:40 AM
Yikes, Mayor Q spotted out at the lake this weekend not following his own mandate about masks.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 12:00:07 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on July 20, 2020, 12:02:18 PM
https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1285254507727859718

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 20, 2020, 12:11:10 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 20, 2020, 12:15:29 PM
Yikes, Mayor Q spotted out at the lake this weekend not following his own mandate about masks.


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Sorry in advance for triggering you with the below.

For one he is the mayor of Kansas City, MO and was not even under his own order where the picture was taken.  He was outside, which has a less likelihood of spread.  He also owned up to it already and is doing what real leaders do, learn and grow and do the right thing and lead.


https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1285231058850586625
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 20, 2020, 12:16:01 PM
Has anyone else noticed that KK's trolling has really exposed his mid-life crisis?  He is so desperate for attention no matter negative or positive.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on July 20, 2020, 12:18:41 PM
He’s well past mid life though


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 12:21:58 PM
Yikes, Mayor Q spotted out at the lake this weekend not following his own mandate about masks.


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Sorry in advance for triggering you with the below.

For one he is the mayor of Kansas City, MO and was not even under his own order where the picture was taken.  He was outside, which has a less likelihood of spread.  He also owned up to it already and is doing what real leaders do, learn and grow and do the right thing and lead.


https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1285231058850586625
Lol. Trigger me? I just find him highly hypocritical. We should probably lay off on the lake of the Ozark party goers then too, since they were outside.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 12:23:39 PM
Also, that response to KK would be funnier if he actually didn’t have a job. But yes, KK has lost it for sure.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 20, 2020, 12:25:42 PM
does KC require masks outside?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 20, 2020, 12:26:11 PM
Yikes, Mayor Q spotted out at the lake this weekend not following his own mandate about masks.


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Sorry in advance for triggering you with the below.

For one he is the mayor of Kansas City, MO and was not even under his own order where the picture was taken.  He was outside, which has a less likelihood of spread.  He also owned up to it already and is doing what real leaders do, learn and grow and do the right thing and lead.


https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1285231058850586625
Lol. Trigger me? I just find him highly hypocritical. We should probably lay off on the lake of the Ozark party goers then too, since they were outside.


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I already said sorry in advance so I won't say it again.  The partying in the Ozarks had shown that there was no real spread, since most of it was outside.  Also LOL at the notion that him posing for 10 seconds with a few people is the same thing as partying in the Ozarks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 20, 2020, 12:28:54 PM
He’s well past mid life though


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True.  He's lost his mind.  I guess I would lose my mind as well if I got fired from the placed I helped build.  To top it off....8 months later the greatest sporting achievement in Kansas City's history happened and he didn't get to talk about it on public radio while stroking his ego.  He received a huge Karma enema. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 12:31:41 PM
Yikes, Mayor Q spotted out at the lake this weekend not following his own mandate about masks.


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Sorry in advance for triggering you with the below.

For one he is the mayor of Kansas City, MO and was not even under his own order where the picture was taken.  He was outside, which has a less likelihood of spread.  He also owned up to it already and is doing what real leaders do, learn and grow and do the right thing and lead.


https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1285231058850586625
Lol. Trigger me? I just find him highly hypocritical. We should probably lay off on the lake of the Ozark party goers then too, since they were outside.


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I already said sorry in advance so I won't say it again.  The partying in the Ozarks had shown that there was no real spread, since most of it was outside.  Also LOL at the notion that him posing for 10 seconds with a few people is the same thing as partying in the Ozarks.
Wow! Lol


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2020, 12:41:36 PM
I thought it was pretty obvious that this group saw him on the dock and took a quick picture. I'm sure they chatted for a few minutes too. There's really no reason to be wearing a mask on a boat or docks except in a situation like this. Blow him up for being a hypocrite if you want, but meh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2020, 12:43:00 PM
Also the most lol part is I bet not a single one of those women actually live in the city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
Moving goalposts is fine by me, honestly. Especially when it fits your parties narratives. I’m just happy you guys are owning up to it.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 12:47:40 PM
It’s a bad look to call a mask mandate for your city, hit the road to party with a bunch of randos somewhere else, and then come back to your city putting your people at risk for breaking distancing protocols during a pandemic. But you guys know that, so I don’t need to go any further. :cheers:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 20, 2020, 12:48:10 PM
That's your problem, you can't look past a letter and make an unbiased observation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 12:48:38 PM
Pfftt... :lol:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 20, 2020, 01:20:37 PM
This mask police crap is well past ridiculous at this point.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 20, 2020, 01:23:16 PM
Q probably should've just worn the L and moved on.  Or said that what he did was OK for some reason (outside, etc.)

Issuing a mea culpa and then flippantly engaging kietzman was an odd choice.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 01:27:40 PM
This mask police crap is well past ridiculous at this point.
Guess which group was the first ones to participate in this?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 01:36:46 PM
Q probably should've just worn the L and moved on.  Or said that what he did was OK for some reason (outside, etc.)

Issuing a mea culpa and then flippantly engaging kietzman was an odd choice.
Mayor Q and Nick Wright were HS buds and are BFF’s IRL. Mayor Q allowing himself to get baited in by KK actually makes a lot of sense to me


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 20, 2020, 01:40:27 PM
does KC require masks outside?

Not that I am aware of.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 20, 2020, 01:42:22 PM
does KC require masks outside?

Not that I am aware of.

Oh wow so Mayor Q was following his KC, MO order all the way out in the Ozarks?   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 20, 2020, 01:44:37 PM
does KC require masks outside?

Not that I am aware of.

Oh wow so Mayor Q was following his KC, MO order all the way out in the Ozarks?   :thumbs:
So did he do something wrong or not? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 20, 2020, 01:45:56 PM
does KC require masks outside?

Not that I am aware of.

Oh wow so Mayor Q was following his KC, MO order all the way out in the Ozarks?   :thumbs:
So did he do something wrong or not?
Depends who you ask. But no.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 20, 2020, 01:48:21 PM
does KC require masks outside?

Not that I am aware of.

Oh wow so Mayor Q was following his KC, MO order all the way out in the Ozarks?   :thumbs:
So did he do something wrong or not?
Depends who you ask. But no.
Well if you ask the mayor, the answer is yes (and most public health officials, I presume).  Hence his apology and the hypocrisy criticisms.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 01:48:39 PM
He doesn’t seem to be following basic social distancing protocols during a pandemic with randos, tho. Tough call. CASE OPENED!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 20, 2020, 01:50:30 PM
does KC require masks outside?

Not that I am aware of.

Oh wow so Mayor Q was following his KC, MO order all the way out in the Ozarks?   :thumbs:
So did he do something wrong or not?
Depends who you ask. But no.
Well if you ask the mayor, the answer is yes (and most public health officials, I presume).  Hence his apology and the hypocrisy criticisms.

The original issue was the mask, so lets quit moving the goalposts here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2020, 01:52:47 PM
does KC require masks outside?

Not that I am aware of.

Oh wow so Mayor Q was following his KC, MO order all the way out in the Ozarks?   :thumbs:
So did he do something wrong or not?
Depends who you ask. But no.
Well if you ask the mayor, the answer is yes (and most public health officials, I presume).  Hence his apology and the hypocrisy criticisms.

Yeah, crap happens. Do your best.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 01:54:44 PM
TBT has been one of the biggest Corona Bro’s from day 1 and now he’s bending his knee to the safe protocols of the safety movement, to support ole Dear leader Mayor Q. Sad, really.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 20, 2020, 01:55:13 PM
does KC require masks outside?

Not that I am aware of.

Oh wow so Mayor Q was following his KC, MO order all the way out in the Ozarks?   :thumbs:
So did he do something wrong or not?
Depends who you ask. But no.
Well if you ask the mayor, the answer is yes (and most public health officials, I presume).  Hence his apology and the hypocrisy criticisms.

The original issue was the mask, so lets quit moving the goalposts here.
:Roll Eyes:
Yeah, crap happens. Do your best.
Agreed. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2020, 01:56:35 PM
Q probably should've just worn the L and moved on.  Or said that what he did was OK for some reason (outside, etc.)

Issuing a mea culpa and then flippantly engaging kietzman was an odd choice.

I wish he wouldn't have done that. Like, it's funny, but politians trolling on twitter is not a good direction for the country.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 20, 2020, 01:58:16 PM
TBT has been one of the biggest Corona Bro’s from day 1


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 20, 2020, 01:59:35 PM
Q probably should've just worn the L and moved on.  Or said that what he did was OK for some reason (outside, etc.)

Issuing a mea culpa and then flippantly engaging kietzman was an odd choice.

I wish he wouldn't have done that. Like, it's funny, but politians trolling on twitter is not a good direction for the country.
Yeah, it's a byproduct of Trump.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 02:04:02 PM
Just like how Covid shaming is a byproduct by the far left. It’s cool. crap happens.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 20, 2020, 02:04:39 PM
head back to the pit with this crap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on July 20, 2020, 02:17:31 PM
I'm disappointed to learn that Sly James is gone. I bet Sly would've had a mask on.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2020, 02:20:06 PM
No way slyin hams is getting on a boat
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2020, 04:57:03 PM
I like Quinton. He has handled this pandemic pretty darn well for a mid 30s dude without much of any political experience.

Speaking of masks we are 3 weeks unto the kcmo order and daily case counts continue to accelerate. Da fuq?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 20, 2020, 04:58:23 PM
I like Quinton. He has handled this pandemic pretty darn well for a mid 30s dude without much of any political experience.

Speaking of masks we are 3 weeks unto the kcmo order and daily case counts continue to accelerate. Da fuq?

mask rules won't entirely stop the spread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2020, 05:08:23 PM
Obviously won't stop it but dang thought the case count wouldn't still be going up faster than ever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on July 20, 2020, 05:13:37 PM
Obviously won't stop it but dang thought the case count wouldn't still be going up faster than ever.

I don't know how indoor dining has been there but honestly allowing indoor restaurants and bars to open will probably lead to the most spread at the moment and masks won't put much of a dent in that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2020, 05:16:32 PM
Obviously won't stop it but dang thought the case count wouldn't still be going up faster than ever.

I don't know how indoor dining has been there but honestly allowing indoor restaurants and bars to open will probably lead to the most spread at the moment and masks won't put much of a dent in that.
Both are open inside. Bars have to be at 50% capacity.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 20, 2020, 05:27:28 PM
Obviously won't stop it but dang thought the case count wouldn't still be going up faster than ever.

I don't know how indoor dining has been there but honestly allowing indoor restaurants and bars to open will probably lead to the most spread at the moment and masks won't put much of a dent in that.
Both are open inside. Bars have to be at 50% capacity.
I would say there are A LOT of bars and restaurants that are operating above that. I drive by some places and it’s like there’s nothing going on they are so busy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: chum1 on July 20, 2020, 05:34:58 PM
https://twitter.com/MayorSlyJames/status/1261823213962760197
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2020, 05:36:52 PM
Obviously won't stop it but dang thought the case count wouldn't still be going up faster than ever.

I don't know how indoor dining has been there but honestly allowing indoor restaurants and bars to open will probably lead to the most spread at the moment and masks won't put much of a dent in that.
Both are open inside. Bars have to be at 50% capacity.
I would say there are A LOT of bars and restaurants that are operating above that. I drive by some places and it’s like there’s nothing going on they are so busy.
Report them via 311. Restaurants don't have capacity limits other than they have to be 6 feet apart
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 05:48:58 PM
Hey man, he drives by these places and they look packed from the road. I’m sure he knows what he’s talking about. :lol:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2020, 05:58:01 PM
Hey man, he drives by these places and they look packed from the road. I’m sure he knows what he’s talking about.


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You are on a roll lately wacky!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2020, 06:02:31 PM
Tbt decided to take offense to the Mayor Q post this morning and got chippy right away. I just needed to kindly tell our fellow Corona Bro how hypocritical he sounded, during his meltdown. It’s seriously embarrassing. Now he has X-ray vision and can see into bars that he drives by and is now sure that’s the reason for the rise of cases. He picks and chooses what works best for him.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 20, 2020, 07:23:59 PM
Clams asked nicely guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 20, 2020, 09:16:47 PM
Speaking of masks we are 3 weeks unto the kcmo order and daily case counts continue to accelerate. Da fuq?
was wondering that same thing tonight.  on the way home from getting carry out friom JOSE PEPPERS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 21, 2020, 08:31:58 AM
Speaking of masks we are 3 weeks unto the kcmo order and daily case counts continue to accelerate. Da fuq?
was wondering that same thing tonight.  on the way home from getting carry out friom JOSE PEPPERS
what did you order?  which one did you go to? i went to 103 and metcalf locaish on Saturday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 21, 2020, 09:02:58 AM
Speaking of masks we are 3 weeks unto the kcmo order and daily case counts continue to accelerate. Da fuq?
was wondering that same thing tonight.  on the way home from getting carry out friom JOSE PEPPERS
what did you order?  which one did you go to? i went to 103 and metcalf locaish on Saturday.

Dlew, that's my home Peps as well!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 21, 2020, 09:03:59 AM
Speaking of masks we are 3 weeks unto the kcmo order and daily case counts continue to accelerate. Da fuq?
was wondering that same thing tonight.  on the way home from getting carry out friom JOSE PEPPERS
what did you order?  which one did you go to? i went to 103 and metcalf locaish on Saturday.

Dlew, that's my home Peps as well!
It's not really my home peps.  Mine is Metcalf and J(ose)ohnson Drive.  The filet of the neighborhood.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 21, 2020, 02:53:53 PM
Speaking of masks we are 3 weeks unto the kcmo order and daily case counts continue to accelerate. Da fuq?
was wondering that same thing tonight.  on the way home from getting carry out friom JOSE PEPPERS
what did you order?  which one did you go to? i went to 103 and metcalf locaish on Saturday.

metcalf and johnson drive.  the new menu blows ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 21, 2020, 03:18:02 PM
Speaking of masks we are 3 weeks unto the kcmo order and daily case counts continue to accelerate. Da fuq?
was wondering that same thing tonight.  on the way home from getting carry out friom JOSE PEPPERS
what did you order?  which one did you go to? i went to 103 and metcalf locaish on Saturday.

metcalf and johnson drive.  the new menu blows ass
Excuse you.

Also that's a good locaish.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 23, 2020, 09:49:09 AM
That bi bim bop place in waldo has the flavors I savor.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 24, 2020, 01:11:18 PM
Man  :frown:

https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1286663646119174147
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 24, 2020, 01:58:36 PM
Man  :frown:

https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1286663646119174147

One icon covered like a mile.  #chartgore
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 09:29:05 AM
Friends, I just got the biggest promotion of my life and the wife and I want to go out and celebrate. Where do we go for a good steak tonight? Mrs Wacky thinks Jess and Jim’s is too far out there. Would appreciate any pro tips on this one. We’re giddy af this morning.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 31, 2020, 09:47:56 AM
for where you live, maybe sullivans is the best bet
rye in leawood farms has good steak too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on July 31, 2020, 09:51:13 AM
for where you live, maybe sullivans is the best bet
rye in leawood farms has good steak too
I've never been, but i know my parents like Red Rock Canyon quite a bit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 09:53:42 AM
Good choices. Thank you!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 31, 2020, 09:57:34 AM
Friends, I just got the biggest promotion of my life and the wife and I want to go out and celebrate. Where do we go for a good steak tonight? Mrs Wacky thinks Jess and Jim’s is too far out there. Would appreciate any pro tips on this one. We’re giddy af this morning.


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Congrats wacky!  If your dining out requirements right now include outside only, Cap Grille has a very nice sidewalk setup.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 31, 2020, 09:58:38 AM
I hate their sidewalk set up
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 31, 2020, 10:00:03 AM
I hate their sidewalk set up

As a diner or a pedestrian?  I personally wouldn't like eating a nice steak meal on a patio situation anywhere, I just saw they did have outdoor dining if that was a Wacky requirement
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 31, 2020, 10:00:51 AM
Cheesecake factory
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 31, 2020, 10:07:29 AM
Friends, I just got the biggest promotion of my life and the wife and I want to go out and celebrate. Where do we go for a good steak tonight? Mrs Wacky thinks Jess and Jim’s is too far out there. Would appreciate any pro tips on this one. We’re giddy af this morning.


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Grats wacky!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 10:16:20 AM
Thanks, friends!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 31, 2020, 10:29:26 AM
Huge congrats!

I enjoy Piropos.  Hopefully Mrs. Wacky makes you lucky twice today.   :fatty:
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 31, 2020, 12:34:47 PM
I hate their sidewalk set up

As a diner or a pedestrian?  I personally wouldn't like eating a nice steak meal on a patio situation anywhere, I just saw they did have outdoor dining if that was a Wacky requirement

blocks egress
it's on my jogging path
also who wants to eat a $200 meal while joe the homeless guy sits and watches or tina's dog takes a giant dump 2 feet away
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Katpappy on July 31, 2020, 12:46:05 PM
Friends, I just got the biggest promotion of my life and the wife and I want to go out and celebrate. Where do we go for a good steak tonight? Mrs Wacky thinks Jess and Jim’s is too far out there. Would appreciate any pro tips on this one. We’re giddy af this morning.


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My wife and I enjoy Texas Road House.  They won an award as best steak restaurant chain a few years back.   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 31, 2020, 12:52:42 PM
I hate their sidewalk set up

As a diner or a pedestrian?  I personally wouldn't like eating a nice steak meal on a patio situation anywhere, I just saw they did have outdoor dining if that was a Wacky requirement

blocks egress
it's on my jogging path
also who wants to eat a $200 meal while joe the homeless guy sits and watches or tina's dog takes a giant dump 2 feet away

Agree on all those.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 31, 2020, 02:09:21 PM
Friends, I just got the biggest promotion of my life and the wife and I want to go out and celebrate. Where do we go for a good steak tonight? Mrs Wacky thinks Jess and Jim’s is too far out there. Would appreciate any pro tips on this one. We’re giddy af this morning.


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My wife and I enjoy Texas Road House.  They won an award as best steak restaurant chain a few years back.

Hell yes Katpappy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 02:42:38 PM
My parents love that place, guys!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 31, 2020, 04:21:05 PM
 J Gilberts has a small outdoor area I think.  Probably hard to get a table last minute tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 04:25:49 PM
Totally forgot about that place. I want you all to know I looked up the menus for all of these places and they look amaze. However, I think we’re taking our talents to Hereford House tonight. We forgot we have a gift card there and we will be able to legitimately make it rain tonight. :cheers:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on July 31, 2020, 04:30:37 PM
Sweet


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 31, 2020, 04:33:44 PM
Enjoy yourself 420seriouscat69
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 04:34:58 PM
Thanks, guys!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 31, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Hereford House is perfect.  Will be a great meal, enjoy!
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 04:45:28 PM



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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on July 31, 2020, 07:04:34 PM
What’d you go with?

Ribeye?

Prime rib?

Strip!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on July 31, 2020, 07:05:27 PM
Always made my folks take me to Hereford house for bday prime rib dinner as a kid.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2020, 09:11:06 PM
Nice to know my guy wackycat had a good day. You know what fanman? You’re alright in my book. (You Alex Smith loving rascal)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 09:18:05 PM
Kc strip. I was feeling the blue cheese tonight. Love you guys!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/4803e040919176c59e565c7407e0ad58.jpg)


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2020, 09:20:24 PM
Well done with some catsup for dippin?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 31, 2020, 09:21:03 PM
Cab? Merlot?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 09:23:02 PM
Medium rare, Pinot noir. Let’s go!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2020, 09:24:14 PM
What a day
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 09:29:46 PM
What a day



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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Katpappy on July 31, 2020, 09:38:41 PM
That was a fine choice, since I don't go to KC that often I forgot about HH.  Hope you had a great time celebrating that raise.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2020, 09:41:49 PM
Can some one give me a cliff notes update on WC08’s schenanigans so far in 2020
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2020, 09:58:00 PM
Can some one give me a cliff notes update on WC08’s schenanigans so far in 2020
Total saint


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on July 31, 2020, 10:01:31 PM
Looks great!  Congratulations


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on August 06, 2020, 02:43:51 PM
Looks great!  Congratulations


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Went to Strang Hall for lunch.

Pretty good!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on August 07, 2020, 09:49:53 AM
Cross post from hyper detailed maps thread.

Any feedback? I don't have many stereotypes/judgemental labels for the Lee's summit/Blue Springs/Northland area since I never go there.

What other labels can we add?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on August 07, 2020, 10:19:12 AM
"no curbs" :lol: that one got me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2020, 11:20:24 AM
don't like all trade/union workers live north of the river?

Blue springs I'd say is "people who have Ozarks weekend houses" all seem to live there.

"used to be italians now all Vietnamese" for Columbus park

"Gay guys remodeling houses" for Pendleton Heights

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 07, 2020, 11:25:02 AM
i took a crack at it. it's very hard  :frown:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 07, 2020, 11:29:18 AM
I'm in Boomers. I'd call it "Boomers and young families buying recently deceased Boomers' houses."
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on August 07, 2020, 11:43:19 AM
don't like all trade/union workers live north of the river?

Blue springs I'd say is "people who have Ozarks weekend houses" all seem to live there.

"used to be italians now all Vietnamese" for Columbus park

"Gay guys remodeling houses" for Pendleton Heights

I put "Auto and Casino workers live here" up by liberty.

I'll trust your pendleton heights assessment and add it to the map but I think your off on Blue Springs. I view it  as more of a chiefs superfan/blue collar middle class type area.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on August 07, 2020, 11:43:50 AM
i took a crack at it. it's very hard  :frown:


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I definitely stole alot of yours
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on August 07, 2020, 11:47:07 AM
I need something for the Triangle between 435/470/350 in Missouri. Its south KC and Raytown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 07, 2020, 12:03:51 PM
"no curbs" :lol: that one got me

Yeah, and accurate!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on August 07, 2020, 12:35:12 PM
Cross post from hyper detailed maps thread.

Any feedback? I don't have many stereotypes/judgemental labels for the Lee's summit/Blue Springs/Northland area since I never go there.

What other labels can we add?

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Updated version

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 07, 2020, 12:51:50 PM
don't like all trade/union workers live north of the river?

Blue springs I'd say is "people who have Ozarks weekend houses" all seem to live there.

"used to be italians now all Vietnamese" for Columbus park

"Gay guys remodeling houses" for Pendleton Heights

I put "Auto and Casino workers live here" up by liberty.

I'll trust your pendleton heights assessment and add it to the map but I think your off on Blue Springs. I view it  as more of a chiefs superfan/blue collar middle class type area.  :dunno:

Yea I'm thinking Lee's Summit probably.  I was thinking like plumbers, pipe fitters, electricans, they all seem to live up Gladstone type area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 26, 2020, 04:18:15 PM
The world might be falling apart, but


https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/1298621686363889666?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 26, 2020, 06:09:22 PM
 :pray: for clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 26, 2020, 06:23:12 PM
The world might be falling apart, but


https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/1298621686363889666?s=19
I've been taking a lot of walks to the plaza and there simply isn't a nice way to get there to get over the midtown elevation and cross 31st/linwood. Can't wait. Great news.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 06:42:17 PM
Lol. What timing...


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on August 26, 2020, 07:30:50 PM
The world might be falling apart, but


https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/1298621686363889666?s=19
I've been taking a lot of walks to the plaza and there simply isn't a nice way to get there to get over the midtown elevation and cross 31st/linwood. Can't wait. Great news.

have you tried pushing down on the gas pedal?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 07:36:30 PM
:lol:


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 26, 2020, 07:55:26 PM
Lol. What timing...


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In what way wacky? People need more transit options in a bad economy? Agreed!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 08:04:51 PM
Agreed. It should all be fixed now.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 26, 2020, 08:06:24 PM
Agreed. It should all be fixed now.


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I see you are trying to be snarky I just don't know what angle. Gotta get better at it bud!

Don't worry you can still ride for free with the Mrs. On a date!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 08:36:35 PM
I thought this toy train was unnecessary funding before the pandemic, why would I change my mind now? Especially now?...


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 08:39:01 PM
Many businesses have been slammed through this pandemic. What jobs are these people riding to?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 26, 2020, 08:42:23 PM
I thought this toy train was unnecessary funding before the pandemic, why would I change my mind now? Especially now?...


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This is fed money in grants. If it didn't go to your city it would have went somewhere else. Your taxes either way, might as well use them for once!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 08:46:13 PM
We have no other inner city projects right now that we could put this focus towards? With fed $? I hope your people have better projects than this right now to get grants for.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 08:47:31 PM
Travis Kelce has done more for KCMO in the past few months than KCMO has itself.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 26, 2020, 08:56:38 PM
We have no other inner city projects right now that we could put this focus towards? With fed $? I hope your people have better projects than this right now to get grants for.


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Not with that money.  You should look at this as making the downtown current line way more useful. It's one of the heaviest transit corridors in the metro.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 26, 2020, 08:57:16 PM
Travis Kelce has done more for KCMO in the past few months than KCMO has itself.


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Holy crap :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 09:00:21 PM
We have no other inner city projects right now that we could put this focus towards? With fed $? I hope your people have better projects than this right now to get grants for.


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Not with that money.  You should look at this as making the downtown current line way more useful. It's one of the heaviest transit corridors in the metro.
Just admit you don’t want to extend the streetcar for “economic reasons” and I might respect your take on this. You, just like chodecat, want shiny new things.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 26, 2020, 09:24:28 PM
We have no other inner city projects right now that we could put this focus towards? With fed $? I hope your people have better projects than this right now to get grants for.


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Not with that money.  You should look at this as making the downtown current line way more useful. It's one of the heaviest transit corridors in the metro.
Just admit you don’t want to extend the streetcar for “economic reasons” and I might respect your take on this. You, just like chodecat, want shiny new things.


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The investment in midtown will speak for itself wacky. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
What’s Midtown rent right now? Because I can guarantee you, anyone living along the streetcar line right now, doesn’t need free Transportation to get to work.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 26, 2020, 09:35:38 PM
What’s Midtown rent right now? Because I can guarantee you, anyone living along the streetcar line right now, doesn’t need free Transportation to get to work.


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Not for nothing, but weren't you, at one point, fraudulently living in section 8 housing or something?

I could be thinking of someone else.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 09:43:54 PM
You’re right, I didn’t need free transportation to go to work or mommy and daddy’s $ to get through HS and college, ‘Lew. I chose my 2nd job as my income to pay for reasonable rent downtown, on my own, while paying a mortgage in student loans. We all play the hand we’re dealt. The streetcar isn’t for economic purposes and Phil knows this. Don’t question me on working the system, for beneficial needs, when you’ve been setup from day 1.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 09:46:41 PM
Why do you think I care about irresponsible spending with the economy? I graduated in ‘08.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 26, 2020, 09:51:06 PM
*lied about your income
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 09:54:49 PM
Lol


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 26, 2020, 09:55:37 PM
Listen wacky, if you want to "work the system" (as you put it), that's your prerogative.  What do I care? 
I can guarantee you, anyone living along the streetcar line right now, doesn’t need free Transportation to get to work.
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But if you're making comments like that ^, then you better be prepared for someone to point out the pretty heavy irony.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 10:04:08 PM
I probably saved close to $3500 that year, because I said my side hustle job was my income. That’s it for me and my fam in a lifetime on “cheating the system”. Are two, paid for, educated Catholic boys really trying to talk this crap right now?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 10:08:14 PM
Listen wacky, if you want to "work the system" (as you put it), that's your prerogative.  What do I care? 
I can guarantee you, anyone living along the streetcar line right now, doesn’t need free Transportation to get to work.
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But if you're making comments like that ^, then you better be prepared for someone to point out the pretty heavy irony.
I make comments like this, because these ppl aren’t hurting like Phil would like you too. People who live in that building are waiters downtown, liberal arts majors, etc. nobody, including rent control ppl, need that streetcar. Rent control is like at 35K downtown and midtown. They’re fine.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 26, 2020, 10:11:35 PM
Why am I being dragged on this? I'm here for streetcar defending only and told why I like it and why I don't.

You and lew have fun. Buhbye
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on August 26, 2020, 10:13:14 PM
Can I ask why you seem so mad about all this dumb crap when your life seems by all rights to be good?

Why not try gratitude?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 26, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
I probably saved close to $3500 that year, because I said my side hustle job was my income. That’s it for me and my fam in a lifetime on “cheating the system”. Are two, paid for, educated Catholic boys really trying to talk this crap right now?


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I didn't say you had a lifetime of "cheating the system."  In fact, I said I didn't really care about it.  I also don't care about the streetcar either way. I was only pointing out that you suggesting federal money ought to be allocated more beneficially is kind of funny, given you're the one guy I know who has admitted to personally abusing (even just a little) federal money.  If you can't appreciate that irony to some degree then I don't know what to tell you.  I thought it was kind of funny but maybe not.

Anyway, tell me more about 8man's catholic upbringing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 10:40:09 PM
Can I ask why you seem so mad about all this dumb crap when your life seems by all rights to be good?

Why not try gratitude?
Fair question. I appreciate this. Mental Health is definitely kicking in right now. Not looking for a reach out, but it’s true. The comeback at work has been amazing, but it turned into a mumped up place all of a sudden. I’m definitely stressing there.

For the rest: I had a well detailed response to this. But let’s just call it life for once. Family, outlets. Etc.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 27, 2020, 07:56:00 AM
Can I ask why you seem so mad about all this dumb crap when your life seems by all rights to be good?

Why not try gratitude?
Fair question. I appreciate this. Mental Health is definitely kicking in right now. Not looking for a reach out, but it’s true. The comeback at work has been amazing, but it turned into a mumped up place all of a sudden. I’m definitely stressing there.

For the rest: I had a well detailed response to this. But let’s just call it life for once. Family, outlets. Etc.


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eff it, I'll weigh in. 

Gratitude is an action. If you follow me around all day, you'll see what I take care of.  Those are the things I am grateful for. What things are you taking care of?  Second, try this idea on....every time you are upset, the problem is with YOU.  Every. Single. Time.  That's hard to accept, but it's true.  Bending the world to meet your expectations, versus attempting to accept it for how it is.  That doesn't mean you can't still do the right thing, and do your part to make the world better...but raging against it and the ill's of the world is like you taking poison and hoping the other guy dies.  But, all that's sort of level 4 and beyond crap. 

You're really more just ready for level 1 crap.  If you have mental health issues, for example anxiety and depression like a Canadian guy I know, then drinking will eventually turn into the absolute worst thing in the world for you, and will create your private lonely prison of fear and anger.  Hell, really.  I mean the drinking progression goes like this...Fun, Fun with Problems, Just Problems.  Which point are you at?  Also, can you imagine ever being happy without booze in your life?  Could you imagine events that you enjoy now, still enjoying them with zero booze?  People without a problem can answer "Yes" to both of those easily without even contemplating it.  People with a problem, deep down, find that either terrifying, depressing, or both.   Lastly, put another way, people without a problem never wonder if they might have a problem.  Have you ever wondered about that?

My advice would be to check out a meeting, and see what you think.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 27, 2020, 08:53:39 AM
Thank you, Pete. I’ll seriously take this into consideration.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on August 27, 2020, 05:06:30 PM
Are two, paid for, educated Catholic boys really trying to talk this crap right now?

I may be a dick sometimes, but you've got the wrong guy.  The Putnam scholarship, TA work, and student loans and paid for my education.  I also despise the catholic church.

Pete's a kind soul, listen to him.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 27, 2020, 05:44:11 PM
Are two, paid for, educated Catholic boys really trying to talk this crap right now?

I may be a dick sometimes, but you've got the wrong guy.  The Putnam scholarship, TA work, and student loans and paid for my education.  I also despise the catholic church.

Pete's a kind soul, listen to him.
My bad and you’re right. Congrats btw. I did not know that. Pete’s a great guy and it’s worth looking into.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 01, 2020, 03:55:43 PM
https://youtu.be/2BYOZ1HROGw
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 01, 2020, 05:35:44 PM
 :eek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 01, 2020, 07:39:24 PM
I wonder what happens first, I start flying for work again or the new airport is done?  :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 01, 2020, 07:42:40 PM
I think a falloon patio social distance pak should happen soon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on October 28, 2020, 08:36:12 AM
https://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1321264390247796737?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 28, 2020, 08:41:29 AM
https://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1321264390247796737?s=20

I think I'm in love
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2020, 09:39:52 PM
 
https://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1321264390247796737?s=20

I think I'm in love
@philtitola I held back from posting here, during my time off, but I’m just curious on how your department is working on the crime problem in KCMO. We surpassed our murder rate a few weeks ago for the year/history, but it is 2020, so I’m definitely looking forward to mayor Q’s plan. Please share. Ampt for a movement against these monsters.




Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2020, 04:33:03 AM
https://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1321264390247796737
:love: :love: :love:
[youtube]https://youtu.be/FdSYtlMUzPE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2020, 05:05:59 AM
Her name is Keiajah Brooks and her twitter account is @kjgbrks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 29, 2020, 06:55:49 AM
https://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1321264390247796737?s=20

I think I'm in love
@philtitola I held back from posting here, during my time off, but I’m just curious on how your department is working on the crime problem in KCMO. We surpassed our murder rate a few weeks ago for the year/history, but it is 2020, so I’m definitely looking forward to mayor Q’s plan. Please share. Ampt for a movement against these monsters.
Wacky the joke was I worked for sly. It doesn't work to also say I work for Q.

I'm eager to hear a  plan too. Local control is job #1 for me and this dress down of the police commissioners would be moot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on October 29, 2020, 08:01:53 AM
Phil we all know you are a part of a greater Deep City conspiracy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2020, 09:33:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/W3huPbu.png)

blacksrule.jpg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2020, 09:45:34 AM
that will be an easy set of dumbasses to find.  That place is crawling with cameras.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 03, 2020, 10:30:34 AM
lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 10, 2020, 07:14:52 PM
https://twitter.com/lukenozicka/status/1326324453832347648
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on November 11, 2020, 12:32:25 AM
Might have already been discussed in this thread but wtf is the deal with the dirt bike and atv gangs that ride through downtown and do tricks? I was having a delightful outdoor dinner at Extra Virgin this weekend and those jackasses rode by a dozen times. I feel like this is a uniquely Kansas City thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2020, 01:52:04 AM
https://twitter.com/lukenozicka/status/1326324453832347648

The building up here is really nice too, but it isn't in a place where the real estate is so valuable, it's next to the airport.
(https://www.prlog.org/12561342-desmoinesregister.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 11, 2020, 08:53:45 AM
Might have already been discussed in this thread but wtf is the deal with the dirt bike and atv gangs that ride through downtown and do tricks? I was having a delightful outdoor dinner at Extra Virgin this weekend and those jackasses rode by a dozen times. I feel like this is a uniquely Kansas City thing.

I had no idea this was a thing and am LOL'n at how KC it is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 11, 2020, 08:57:06 AM
Like the ruff ryders?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2020, 08:57:27 AM
Might have already been discussed in this thread but wtf is the deal with the dirt bike and atv gangs that ride through downtown and do tricks? I was having a delightful outdoor dinner at Extra Virgin this weekend and those jackasses rode by a dozen times. I feel like this is a uniquely Kansas City thing.
They have become a scourge down here and it's very annoying
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 11, 2020, 08:58:12 AM
Like the ruff ryders?
Basically but scrawny white dudes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 11, 2020, 09:13:09 AM
It will be cold soon enough and they don't have the dinks to do that in the winter
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on November 11, 2020, 11:17:56 AM
Might have already been discussed in this thread but wtf is the deal with the dirt bike and atv gangs that ride through downtown and do tricks? I was having a delightful outdoor dinner at Extra Virgin this weekend and those jackasses rode by a dozen times. I feel like this is a uniquely Kansas City thing.

I had no idea this was a thing and am LOL'n at how KC it is.

That is definitely not unique to kc.  Happens in philly, baltimore and probably a lot of other cities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on November 11, 2020, 11:25:20 AM
 https://youtu.be/1dXZbbdV5Xw (https://youtu.be/1dXZbbdV5Xw)

Even meek likes to get in on the action 🔥
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on November 11, 2020, 11:30:40 AM
Yep, that lame crap is exactly what I saw. Although they ride a bit deeper than Meek's squad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on November 11, 2020, 11:31:56 AM
Didn’t you guys see the Rocky movie with Michael B Jordan?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on November 11, 2020, 11:35:28 AM
I did not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on November 11, 2020, 11:59:55 AM
Might have already been discussed in this thread but wtf is the deal with the dirt bike and atv gangs that ride through downtown and do tricks? I was having a delightful outdoor dinner at Extra Virgin this weekend and those jackasses rode by a dozen times. I feel like this is a uniquely Kansas City thing.

It's in lots of other cities, not just KC.  Big in Baltimore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmNUEAE1xY4
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 11, 2020, 12:09:35 PM
Might have already been discussed in this thread but wtf is the deal with the dirt bike and atv gangs that ride through downtown and do tricks? I was having a delightful outdoor dinner at Extra Virgin this weekend and those jackasses rode by a dozen times. I feel like this is a uniquely Kansas City thing.

It's in lots of other cities, not just KC.  Big in Baltimore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmNUEAE1xY4

The baltimore accent in the first 15 seconds of that video gave me flashbacks to watching the wire.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 12, 2020, 02:45:26 PM
Loved this question!

https://twitter.com/mboerigter/status/1326700480576315395?s=21

Isn’t answer in the world too. It’s trash ass Town Topic!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 12, 2020, 02:48:09 PM
Loved this question!

https://twitter.com/mboerigter/status/1326700480576315395?s=21

Isn’t answer in the world too. It’s trash ass Town Topic!

I enjoyed his answer of the plaza lighting.  Very overrated event.  Could be something actually cool
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on November 12, 2020, 02:53:37 PM
Parents used to drag us up from Wellington for that nonsense.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 12, 2020, 02:54:53 PM
Yeah, I haven’t been since I was a kid. Too crowded and the lights are lame tbh. They could do more. I like the idea of it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2020, 02:55:43 PM
Loved this question!

https://twitter.com/mboerigter/status/1326700480576315395?s=21

Isn’t answer in the world too. It’s trash ass Town Topic!

I enjoyed his answer of the plaza lighting.  Very overrated event.  Could be something actually cool

I always thought American Royal was worse unless you knew someone (and even then it's probably worse)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on November 12, 2020, 08:10:51 PM
Plaza lighting was a great time as a teenager, especially on a warm thanksgiving and i loved spending an afternoon at the Royal before a giant steak at the Golden Ox but i can see how folks that don't have those memories are underwhelmed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 12, 2020, 08:12:43 PM
When you say American royal do mean a cowboy thing or a bbq thing?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2020, 08:16:30 PM
When you say American royal do mean a cowboy thing or a bbq thing?

I was thinking bbq

also I think I went to the lights once and froze my ass off and hated it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 12, 2020, 08:20:10 PM
I've never been to either, but I usually go to the plaza lighting because I can walk to it and it's a good way to burn some of the calories off and have a little drink walk. Driving to it is something I would just not do
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2020, 08:32:42 PM
It's a neck and neck race between the plaza lights, literally every city in the country has them, crap even KC has them in different places, and barbeque. There's a couple of good Q places for sure but KC thinking they have the market cornered is lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 12, 2020, 09:51:41 PM
When you say American royal do mean a cowboy thing or a bbq thing?

I was thinking bbq

also I think I went to the lights once and froze my ass off and hated it

Agreed.  BBQ is very bad unless you have a good corporate party and then go walk around and see other parties.  It's amazingly even worse now that it doesn't have a real home or date or atmosphere.  It's on a lifeline.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 12, 2020, 09:55:33 PM
Yeah, I haven’t been since I was a kid. Too crowded and the lights are lame tbh. They could do more. I like the idea of it.

I was always a fan of a Falloon night on Thanksgiving and walking out pak'd and seeing the lights for the first time on quiet streets.  That was always cool. 

KC should make that lighting much more of an event afterwards.  As is I guess it's good for families but man is it lame.  I like the idea of it too Wacky
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 12, 2020, 10:02:21 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2020, 08:47:28 AM
i have a blast at the american royal bbq every year, you def need to know a couple tents you can get into though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 09:00:21 AM
Honestly every big event is overrated, looking at you defunct First Friday.  What's the most UNDERrated?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 13, 2020, 09:04:28 AM
I like the plaza lights but agree that going down there just to see the switch flipped is silly and overrated.

My own personal selection for most over rated KC tradition is BBQ in general. Like I enjoy eating it every once in a while and its good but I get sick of everyone acting like its some holy thing. KC's obsession with BBQ is very little brothery, we are just desperate to be recognized for something so we act like cooking meat over a low fire/smoke is nirvana.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 13, 2020, 09:08:52 AM
Honestly every big event is overrated, looking at you defunct First Friday.  What's the most UNDERrated?

Picture this - Its a 70 degree Wednesday evening in early June. You just got handed 4 free royals tickets from work/whatever and head out for a nice relaxing evening at the K with some friends and are joined by 10,000 other well behaved people just looking to enjoy life. The Royals suck like they do most of the time but you can sit in your seat, eat some peanuts while sipping a barley pop as your boys in blue try their hardest to eek out a 4-3 win over the White Sox. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2020, 09:18:53 AM
I always really enjoyed First Fridays but that was like 10+ years ago.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2020, 09:19:21 AM
Actually Oakland's First Friday in March was the last time I went to a bar indoors

(Lots of towns have basically the same thing)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2020, 09:25:17 AM
I am going to say the k is the most overrated thing in kc. It's fine, but meh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 13, 2020, 09:26:41 AM
I am going to say the k is the most overrated thing in kc. It's fine, but meh.

Its the most beautiful ballpark in the country (speaking strictly of the ball park not the setting around it) and I will fight you IRL if you dishonor Mr. K to my face like that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2020, 09:28:06 AM


I am going to say the k is the most overrated thing in kc. It's fine, but meh.

Its the most beautiful ballpark in the country (speaking strictly of the ball park not the setting around it) and I will fight you IRL if you dishonor Mr. K to my face like that.

This is true.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 09:48:14 AM
I always really enjoyed First Fridays but that was like 10+ years ago.

The art focus was lost about 5 years ago.  It turned into just a cruising hang out scene and two summers ago a shooting killed an innocent girl.  It probably was done after that anyways but with pandemic it's over.  The city wasn't willing to give the neighborhood funds to help control the huge crowds so the neighborhood is over it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2020, 10:05:40 AM
I always really enjoyed First Fridays but that was like 10+ years ago.

The art focus was lost about 5 years ago.  It turned into just a cruising hang out scene and two summers ago a shooting killed an innocent girl.  It probably was done after that anyways but with pandemic it's over.  The city wasn't willing to give the neighborhood funds to help control the huge crowds so the neighborhood is over it.

oakland's is kinda like that (and I'm guessing someone's been shot) but if you go into the galleries it's pretty easy to get away from huge crowds and lots of the bars have fun things going on. but they also shut down streets and make it a street fair for a few blocks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 13, 2020, 10:06:30 AM
KC should start doing more stuff along the river front. Been to a couple of brew fests along there. I think they're missing out on some opportunities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2020, 10:10:41 AM
well yep

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/oakland-first-fridays-organizers-cancel-event-following-shooting/203686/

https://sfist.com/2013/02/02/one_killed_three_shot_at_oakland_fi/

and yes wacks I agree, I think the riverfront is a missed opportunity for KC!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 10:47:16 AM
KC should start doing more stuff along the river front. Been to a couple of brew fests along there. I think they're missing out on some opportunities.

streetcar extension will help as will expansion of trail network.  Agreed Wacky need more down there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: BW on November 13, 2020, 11:37:27 AM
Boulevardia. Over Rated.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 13, 2020, 11:43:54 AM
Boulevardia. Over Rated.

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I can't see that as overrated as I thought everybody agreed it's lame?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 13, 2020, 11:53:17 AM
Yeah, it's not even rated. I forgot it exists.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2020, 11:56:18 AM
you know what's overrated? hating on the plaza lighting! haha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on November 13, 2020, 04:13:26 PM
The Plaza. Eventually you realize it's just a shopping mall.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2020, 04:15:19 PM
Apparently a doc about trans kids growing up in kc over the past few years has recently been released on hbomax
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 13, 2020, 04:22:23 PM
irl though the kansas city tradition i hate most by far is tearing down buildings to make parking lots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on November 13, 2020, 05:00:18 PM
The Plaza. Eventually you realize it's just a shopping mall.
Surrounding a stank ass drainage ditch.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on November 15, 2020, 03:27:12 PM
boulevardia is great depending on the music lineup.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2020, 03:58:09 PM
The Plaza. Eventually you realize it's just a shopping mall.
hot but incorrect take
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: puniraptor on November 15, 2020, 10:11:05 PM
The Plaza. Eventually you realize it's just a shopping mall.
hot but incorrect take

its just a shopping mall and your house
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on November 16, 2020, 04:22:21 AM
I am going to say the k is the most overrated thing in kc. It's fine, but meh.

Its the most beautiful ballpark in the country (speaking strictly of the ball park not the setting around it) and I will fight you IRL if you dishonor Mr. K to my face like that.

Slow down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 25, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
These T-Shirts from Old School Shirts have nice KC atmosphere (SIAP):

https://oldschoolshirts.com/collections/kansas-city (https://oldschoolshirts.com/collections/kansas-city)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 25, 2020, 03:10:26 PM
Also, speaking of great KC atmosphere, I could look at the old KC pictures on this guy's site for days.

https://kcmeesha.com/vintage-kc/ (https://kcmeesha.com/vintage-kc/)

(https://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/55f5b5cad0104493_large)

(https://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0bfdcd083325ca1f_large)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 25, 2020, 05:22:30 PM
These T-Shirts from Old School Shirts have nice KC atmosphere (SIAP):

https://oldschoolshirts.com/collections/kansas-city (https://oldschoolshirts.com/collections/kansas-city)

That Blades shirt  :love: :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on November 25, 2020, 06:34:45 PM
I wouldn't have guessed that Venture and Camelot were KC things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 25, 2020, 08:06:47 PM
I wouldn't have guessed that Venture and Camelot were KC things.
Yeah that was my question along with a lot of others. Friday night videos?

Kc library is the place to find a crap ton of photos. Cheap to reprint them too. I have a couple in my condo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on November 25, 2020, 08:38:43 PM
I wouldn't have guessed that Venture and Camelot were KC things.
Yeah that was my question along with a lot of others. Friday night videos?

Kc library is the place to find a crap ton of photos. Cheap to reprint them too. I have a couple in my condo.

They aren't.  If you look at the other cities they have them listed there too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 09, 2020, 04:27:07 PM
 :Woot:

https://www.kcur.org/news/2020-12-09/kc-streetcar-authority-receives-substantial-federal-award-allowing-completion-of-entire-project?fbclid=IwAR3i2X55cqXRbL6oZBxiJ_8ScGtcNn8CNpf56JCCmU08YkmUkRgaRS087K8 (https://www.kcur.org/news/2020-12-09/kc-streetcar-authority-receives-substantial-federal-award-allowing-completion-of-entire-project?fbclid=IwAR3i2X55cqXRbL6oZBxiJ_8ScGtcNn8CNpf56JCCmU08YkmUkRgaRS087K8)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 09, 2020, 06:12:03 PM
Hell yeah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 09, 2020, 06:55:31 PM
Perfect timing for this! :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 09, 2020, 08:25:09 PM
:Woot:

https://www.kcur.org/news/2020-12-09/kc-streetcar-authority-receives-substantial-federal-award-allowing-completion-of-entire-project?fbclid=IwAR3i2X55cqXRbL6oZBxiJ_8ScGtcNn8CNpf56JCCmU08YkmUkRgaRS087K8 (https://www.kcur.org/news/2020-12-09/kc-streetcar-authority-receives-substantial-federal-award-allowing-completion-of-entire-project?fbclid=IwAR3i2X55cqXRbL6oZBxiJ_8ScGtcNn8CNpf56JCCmU08YkmUkRgaRS087K8)

Welcome midtown to the streetcar revolution.  Can't wait to enjoy some Panchos via streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 09, 2020, 08:48:54 PM
UMKC student transport to P&L and River Front
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2020, 10:03:50 AM
Go ahead and break ground on the East Village royals stadium already
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2020, 10:22:33 AM
Go ahead and break ground on the East Village royals stadium already

I have a strong suspicion we're going to hear that announcement next year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2020, 10:31:32 AM
I think so.  Money is cheap, the acquisition costs will be rock bottom for such prime real estate and from personal observos, they are absolutely tearing the crap out of the area putting in heavy duty sewer stuff.  New power station over there too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2020, 10:37:56 AM
I think so.  Money is cheap, the acquisition costs will be rock bottom for such prime real estate and from personal observos, they are absolutely tearing the crap out of the area putting in heavy duty sewer stuff.  New power station over there too

I haven't been there lately but isn't that just Spire tearing the living crap out of everything they can find?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 10, 2020, 10:50:27 AM
there is literally nothing but surface lots for 6 entire city blocks over there.

all the stupid foot draggers that live in this city would be on board if a certain part-owner of the royals would voice his support for a new downtown ballpark.

WE COULD CALL IT K2 (!)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2020, 11:00:54 AM
there is literally nothing but surface lots for 6 entire city blocks over there.

all the stupid foot draggers that live in this city would be on board if a certain part-owner of the royals would voice his support for a new downtown ballpark.

WE COULD CALL IT K2 (!)

It's all friendly owners and the Shermantor is a huge downtown ballpark guy.  It's definitely happening there.  Add in Mahomes voice and the "where will I park" weirdos will disappear.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2020, 11:02:22 AM
I think so.  Money is cheap, the acquisition costs will be rock bottom for such prime real estate and from personal observos, they are absolutely tearing the crap out of the area putting in heavy duty sewer stuff.  New power station over there too

I haven't been there lately but isn't that just Spire tearing the living crap out of everything they can find?

Yeah, that mostly.  There is a lot of sewer work going on as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2020, 11:04:26 AM
there is literally nothing but surface lots for 6 entire city blocks over there.

all the stupid foot draggers that live in this city would be on board if a certain part-owner of the royals would voice his support for a new downtown ballpark.

WE COULD CALL IT K2 (!)

Yup.   The owners of those lots and folks with a financial interest in downtown baseball are a pretty small venn diagram.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 10, 2020, 11:15:21 AM
there is literally nothing but surface lots for 6 entire city blocks over there.

all the stupid foot draggers that live in this city would be on board if a certain part-owner of the royals would voice his support for a new downtown ballpark.

WE COULD CALL IT K2 (!)

It's all friendly owners and the Shermantor is a huge downtown ballpark guy.  It's definitely happening there.  Add in Mahomes voice and the "where will I park" weirdos will disappear.

i am horned all the way up for a wackycat parking was a shitshow post
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2020, 11:20:43 AM
there is literally nothing but surface lots for 6 entire city blocks over there.

all the stupid foot draggers that live in this city would be on board if a certain part-owner of the royals would voice his support for a new downtown ballpark.

WE COULD CALL IT K2 (!)

It's all friendly owners and the Shermantor is a huge downtown ballpark guy.  It's definitely happening there.  Add in Mahomes voice and the "where will I park" weirdos will disappear.

i am horned all the way up for a wackycat parking was a shitshow post

He can park on the plaza and ride up with 'clams
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 10, 2020, 11:23:18 AM
Go ahead and break ground on the East Village royals stadium already

 :driving: :driving: :driving: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :Woohoo: :Woohoo: :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2020, 11:39:17 AM
there is a ton of room on the other side of 71 to build the king of all parking garages
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 10, 2020, 03:29:49 PM
Living in a town with a downtown ballpark and soon with a downtown football stadium.  It's just great.

I simply can't imagine driving out to a stadium that sits in the middle of a vast featureless asphalt parking lot with 20,000 parking spots.  Simply awful in every respect.  I understand that Arrowhead will never move, but the Royals should have been playing downtown decades ago.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2020, 03:32:27 PM
Living in a town with a downtown ballpark and soon with a downtown football stadium.  It's just great.

I simply can't imagine driving out to a stadium that sits in the middle of a vast featureless asphalt parking lot with 20,000 parking spots.  Simply awful in every respect.  I understand that Arrowhead will never move, but the Royals should have been playing downtown decades ago.

Agreed Dax.  Now imagine those are pro stadiums!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 10, 2020, 03:40:37 PM
Living in a town with a downtown ballpark and soon with a downtown football stadium.  It's just great.

I simply can't imagine driving out to a stadium that sits in the middle of a vast featureless asphalt parking lot with 20,000 parking spots.  Simply awful in every respect.  I understand that Arrowhead will never move, but the Royals should have been playing downtown decades ago.

Agreed Dax.  Now imagine those are pro stadiums!

I think you meant major league. 

Regions Field has suites and a club level and all that stuff.





Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 10, 2020, 03:57:41 PM
Sounds like the t-bones stadium. Bham and kck, two peas in a pod.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 10, 2020, 04:29:04 PM
lol. Imagine pounding your chest over your semi pro teams stadiums, in podunk, Alabama.  :lol:

Seriously, where did KC touch Dax? Such a scorned ex lover.  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 10, 2020, 04:33:25 PM
there is literally nothing but surface lots for 6 entire city blocks over there.

all the stupid foot draggers that live in this city would be on board if a certain part-owner of the royals would voice his support for a new downtown ballpark.

WE COULD CALL IT K2 (!)

It's all friendly owners and the Shermantor is a huge downtown ballpark guy.  It's definitely happening there.  Add in Mahomes voice and the "where will I park" weirdos will disappear.

i am horned all the way up for a wackycat parking was a shitshow post
This gets my vote

KC should start doing more stuff along the river front. Been to a couple of brew fests along there. I think they're missing out on some opportunities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 10, 2020, 04:38:21 PM
Make a little Wrigleyville along the river to the stadium. BOOM! Profit! Street car can go towards there or whatever you wanna do with that thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 10, 2020, 04:41:02 PM
Extend the streetcar to OP too. Don't care if it isn't Missouri. Stop being greedy with it, if we're going to have it.  I'm not gonna crush brews and pay for surging Uber rates. We're spending way too much $ trying to have another kid these days. KCMO needs to learn how to share.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 10, 2020, 04:46:36 PM
Make a little Wrigleyville along the river to the stadium. BOOM! Profit! Street car can go towards there or whatever you wanna do with that thing.

no utilities, infra structure and the parking is pretty cut due to geography
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 10, 2020, 04:53:08 PM
Dang. I love Pittsburgh's setup. Was hoping for something similar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 10, 2020, 05:14:08 PM
I say build a platform where the mighty kaw meets the 'zouri and play in both states above the water
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 10, 2020, 05:40:33 PM
Extend the streetcar to OP too. Don't care if it isn't Missouri. Stop being greedy with it, if we're going to have it.  I'm not gonna crush brews and pay for surging Uber rates. We're spending way too much $ trying to have another kid these days. KCMO needs to learn how to share.
Be happy to have OP join. We can show you how to raise the money.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2021, 12:35:43 PM
My office moved from Shawnee to North of the river (169 and Vivion) and the north side really reminds me of Topeka. Flannel, camo, and tactical hiking boots everywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 13, 2021, 10:42:37 AM
this is great

https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge-linking-downtown-to-riverfront-to-begin-work-this-year/?fbclid=IwAR2FdZf4OlHAzmXxnKj4oN13m-_aK0dAvZKi9mZz9qiUUUfezslWLfE2r3o (https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge-linking-downtown-to-riverfront-to-begin-work-this-year/?fbclid=IwAR2FdZf4OlHAzmXxnKj4oN13m-_aK0dAvZKi9mZz9qiUUUfezslWLfE2r3o)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 13, 2021, 11:03:10 AM
this is great

https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge-linking-downtown-to-riverfront-to-begin-work-this-year/?fbclid=IwAR2FdZf4OlHAzmXxnKj4oN13m-_aK0dAvZKi9mZz9qiUUUfezslWLfE2r3o (https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge-linking-downtown-to-riverfront-to-begin-work-this-year/?fbclid=IwAR2FdZf4OlHAzmXxnKj4oN13m-_aK0dAvZKi9mZz9qiUUUfezslWLfE2r3o)

Yeah this is way more exciting than the actual streetcar going down there to me.  The Main street ped bridge is cool but the access to the riverfront park is annoying.  @Wacky saw a dude whacking it in the weeds I think.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2021, 11:14:09 AM
this is great

https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge-linking-downtown-to-riverfront-to-begin-work-this-year/?fbclid=IwAR2FdZf4OlHAzmXxnKj4oN13m-_aK0dAvZKi9mZz9qiUUUfezslWLfE2r3o (https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge-linking-downtown-to-riverfront-to-begin-work-this-year/?fbclid=IwAR2FdZf4OlHAzmXxnKj4oN13m-_aK0dAvZKi9mZz9qiUUUfezslWLfE2r3o)

Yeah this is way more exciting than the actual streetcar going down there to me.  The Main street ped bridge is cool but the access to the riverfront park is annoying.  @Wacky saw a dude whacking it in the weeds I think.
More like smashing another homeless person.  :frown: I guess you could say it was all of the above.  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 13, 2021, 11:16:46 AM
It looks like this just follows an existing road? What is the point?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 13, 2021, 11:18:10 AM
Oh, nvm, I see that the road is not ped friendly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 13, 2021, 11:55:26 AM
yeah it's prohibitively dangerous to ride on now. no shoulder and a fairly blind curve
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2021, 12:42:06 PM
was going to say, the main street trail to the riverfront trail isn't enough?  isn't the point of riding your bike to ride actually it and not look for shortcuts to everywhere you're going?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 13, 2021, 12:51:08 PM
was going to say, the main street trail to the riverfront trail isn't enough?  isn't the point of riding your bike to ride actually it and not look for shortcuts to everywhere you're going?

the stairway down is the annoyance on the current Main street thing.  I think this ped walkway is more for leisurely connecting the two versus the exercise bros.

There is also talk of extending the riverfront trail east through the levees to KCK.  Something that direction versus the path under the Main street overpass being only east.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2021, 01:03:32 PM
was going to say, the main street trail to the riverfront trail isn't enough?  isn't the point of riding your bike to ride actually it and not look for shortcuts to everywhere you're going?

the stairway down is the annoyance on the current Main street thing.  I think this ped walkway is more for leisurely connecting the two versus the exercise bros.

There is also talk of extending the riverfront trail east through the levees to KCK.  Something that direction versus the path under the Main street overpass being only east.

using the lewis and clark?  building a ped/bike bridge over the river would cost a fortune.  although if they were looking at doing that, a tunnel is the way to go.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 13, 2021, 01:52:03 PM
was going to say, the main street trail to the riverfront trail isn't enough?  isn't the point of riding your bike to ride actually it and not look for shortcuts to everywhere you're going?

the stairway down is the annoyance on the current Main street thing.  I think this ped walkway is more for leisurely connecting the two versus the exercise bros.

There is also talk of extending the riverfront trail east through the levees to KCK.  Something that direction versus the path under the Main street overpass being only east.

using the lewis and clark?  building a ped/bike bridge over the river would cost a fortune.  although if they were looking at doing that, a tunnel is the way to go.

Using the levees until you get to the Kaw and then using one of those old bridges over there?  I don't remember all the details.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 13, 2021, 02:27:53 PM
was going to say, the main street trail to the riverfront trail isn't enough?  isn't the point of riding your bike to ride actually it and not look for shortcuts to everywhere you're going?

the stairway down is the annoyance on the current Main street thing.  I think this ped walkway is more for leisurely connecting the two versus the exercise bros.

There is also talk of extending the riverfront trail east through the levees to KCK.  Something that direction versus the path under the Main street overpass being only east.

This is just corporate welfare for Big Dog Bar.

it used to go west to KCK, I've ran it.  They blocked it off for some reason.  Same way they blocked off the Interstate on ramp at Independence and Delaware.  No one will respond on twitter why this has been done.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 13, 2021, 02:40:52 PM
I think it was an issue of who owned the land (state, port, city, whatever) and them not wanting people on said land.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 13, 2021, 02:41:51 PM
was going to say, the main street trail to the riverfront trail isn't enough?  isn't the point of riding your bike to ride actually it and not look for shortcuts to everywhere you're going?

the stairway down is the annoyance on the current Main street thing.  I think this ped walkway is more for leisurely connecting the two versus the exercise bros.

There is also talk of extending the riverfront trail east through the levees to KCK.  Something that direction versus the path under the Main street overpass being only east.

using the lewis and clark?  building a ped/bike bridge over the river would cost a fortune.  although if they were looking at doing that, a tunnel is the way to go.

Using the levees until you get to the Kaw and then using one of those old bridges over there?  I don't remember all the details.

there are already a couple of ped-friendly bridges across the Kansas river from the west bottoms to KCK, just southwest of Kaw point.

the main st trail clams mentioned is not rideable. it takes you to the top of an elevator or a series of tight switchback stairs down to the river trail.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 13, 2021, 02:43:30 PM
There is also talk of extending the riverfront trail east through the levees to KCK.  Something that direction versus the path under the Main street overpass being only east.

this seems like it would be easy. you don't have to go very far west to tie into Woodswether rd
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 13, 2021, 02:44:44 PM
using the lewis and clark?  building a ped/bike bridge over the river would cost a fortune.  although if they were looking at doing that, a tunnel is the way to go.

idk if you were talking about the Missouri or the Kansas, but both rivers have ped-friendly bridges already
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 13, 2021, 02:48:32 PM
was going to say, the main street trail to the riverfront trail isn't enough?  isn't the point of riding your bike to ride actually it and not look for shortcuts to everywhere you're going?

the stairway down is the annoyance on the current Main street thing.  I think this ped walkway is more for leisurely connecting the two versus the exercise bros.

There is also talk of extending the riverfront trail east through the levees to KCK.  Something that direction versus the path under the Main street overpass being only east.

using the lewis and clark?  building a ped/bike bridge over the river would cost a fortune.  although if they were looking at doing that, a tunnel is the way to go.

Using the levees until you get to the Kaw and then using one of those old bridges over there?  I don't remember all the details.

there are already a couple of ped-friendly bridges across the Kansas river from the west bottoms to KCK, just southwest of Kaw point.

the main st trail clams mentioned is not rideable. it takes you to the top of an elevator or a series of tight switchback stairs down to the river trail.

Right.  The other annoying portion of the riverfront trail is having to go underneath the ASB bridge.  I don't know why they couldn't just put crossing arms down across the main trail when a train comes across. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 13, 2021, 03:05:34 PM
i like that part  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 13, 2021, 03:32:18 PM
i like that part  :dunno:

Are you a stairs or ramp man?  I generally do the stairs.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 03:52:42 PM
@mocat

https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1349824426292998145?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2021, 04:55:18 PM
the parking isn't the problem.
the signage letting people know what's public and what's not, that's the problem. it's admittedly difficult to differentiate between where you can and can't park downtown and i worked down there for over a year (53 weeks).
develop a uniform signage plan that is enforced across all the surface lots/structures downtown and the problem is fixed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2021, 05:04:43 PM
the parking isn't the problem.
the signage letting people know what's public and what's not, that's the problem. it's admittedly difficult to differentiate between where you can and can't park downtown and i worked down there for over a year (53 weeks).
develop a uniform signage plan that is enforced across all the surface lots/structures downtown and the problem is fixed.

Agreed.  I'd also add in buildings that get incentives should share parking they build with incentives somehow.  Maybe that's for residents after hours or public parking after hours.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 08:49:53 PM
80% of parking down there is for workers/tenants/permits. I never understood the dunking I got from KCMO homers for calling this out in this thread. Downtown stadium? Cool! It’s not gonna be easy tho. You’re either blowing up businesses or people’s homes and open parking is a very small percentage of downtown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2021, 08:59:00 PM
80% of parking down there is for workers/tenants/permits. I never understood the dunking I got from KCMO homers for calling this out in this thread. Downtown stadium? Cool! It’s not gonna be easy tho. You’re either blowing up businesses or people’s homes and open parking is a very small percentage of downtown.

This is fixable and once a stadium comes down here and those garage owners see they have a consistent after 5pm drive in crowd, it will be magical how fast they make their excess parking supply profitable for them.

Add in you can bring people in on a free toy train all the way from UMKC by then?  Easy.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 09:02:27 PM
I don’t think it’s a good look he’s talking down to an out of towner either. Locals here lol about the parking sitch, because they know where to go when things are full. This is a legit person who drives to the city for a city experience and doesn’t know where to go. Farmer from Salina, KS ready to spend $ in our economy feels uncomfortable and doesn’t know where to Park without getting railed by parking costs and made fun of by the local derps. Bad look.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2021, 09:18:50 PM
I don’t think it’s a good look he’s talking down to an out of towner either. Locals here lol about the parking sitch, because they know where to go when things are full. This is a legit person who drives to the city for a city experience and doesn’t know where to go. Farmer from Salina, KS ready to spend $ in our economy feels uncomfortable and doesn’t know where to Park without getting railed by parking costs and made fun of by the local derps. Bad look.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 14, 2021, 09:19:55 PM
It's a bad look to inform someone that there is plenty of parking?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 09:28:13 PM
For most residents, yes. Nobody uses those parking lots other than people who work downtown, dorks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2021, 09:29:47 PM
Does KC still require businesses to have a minimum number of parking spots?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 09:32:48 PM
Yes. Only open parking are side streets and underground parking that gets filled up quick due to car shows/gun shows/etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2021, 09:33:25 PM
Does KC still require businesses to have a minimum number of parking spots?

Not downtown.  No more parking minimums for any building type.


Wacky I still don't know where you are going.  Every city has people drive in from out of of town and successfully navigate to stadiums.  Hell KC does it now with TMO center and look at all the big 12 yokels that seem to manage just fine.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 09:43:12 PM
just so we’re all clear here, Phil, employed by the city, has never seen a fault in their system. It’s 100% perfect.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2021, 09:47:38 PM
Does KC still require businesses to have a minimum number of parking spots?

Not downtown.  No more parking minimums for any building type.


Wacky I still don't know where you are going.  Every city has people drive in from out of of town and successfully navigate to stadiums.  Hell KC does it now with TMO center and look at all the big 12 yokels that seem to manage just fine.
What about Crossroads?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2021, 09:49:35 PM
Does KC still require businesses to have a minimum number of parking spots?

Not downtown.  No more parking minimums for any building type.


Wacky I still don't know where you are going.  Every city has people drive in from out of of town and successfully navigate to stadiums.  Hell KC does it now with TMO center and look at all the big 12 yokels that seem to manage just fine.
What about Crossroads?

They are included in that "downtown" designation.  East crossroads is growing further east than the original freedom of no parking minimums was enacted.  I believe there is a push to get it throughout the urban core (which we should have done to begin with of course)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 14, 2021, 09:50:07 PM
just so we’re all clear here, Phil, employed by the city, has never seen a fault in their system. It’s 100% perfect.

I don't know what you are even referring to bud.  Must have been a fun kickball night! 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 09:51:56 PM
Does KC still require businesses to have a minimum number of parking spots?

Not downtown.  No more parking minimums for any building type.


Wacky I still don't know where you are going.  Every city has people drive in from out of of town and successfully navigate to stadiums.  Hell KC does it now with TMO center and look at all the big 12 yokels that seem to manage just fine.
I 100% don’t think locals think parking is an issue in downtown KC. I get it. I also think the same ppl who say this out loud to themselves either A. Work for the city. B. Live downtown. C. Think some 2 mile choo choo train will solve the problem or D. Lie to themselves. E. All of the above.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 14, 2021, 09:52:43 PM
Regardless of what happens with parking, it won’t effect me.  :cool:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 09:57:17 PM
https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1349456219807883269?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 10:12:23 PM
just so we’re all clear here, Phil, employed by the city, has never seen a fault in their system. It’s 100% perfect.

I don't know what you are even referring to bud.  Must have been a fun kickball night!
I barely kickball anymore, bud. Just never seen you have another take than backing the city to death do you part.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2021, 10:25:28 PM
How is it KCMO peeps are killing more ppl in record time, in a pandemic year, and all the government ppl want to do right now, is build?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 03, 2021, 09:31:25 AM
https://twitter.com/Farzin21/status/1356980841608581121?s=20

what was it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on February 03, 2021, 09:33:07 AM
a 'taterblast
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 18, 2021, 09:50:12 PM
Horrible to hear that.  Loved their food truck, never loved the full blown restaurant.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2021, 09:52:54 PM
Horrible to hear that.  Loved their food truck, never loved the full blown restaurant.
I deleted the post because apparently Mocat got ahead of it in the KC thread, but here it is again

https://twitter.com/thefastpitch/status/1362462412096630787?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2021, 08:45:29 PM
https://fox4kc.com/news/many-including-kansas-city-mayor-not-happy-with-new-design-of-buck-oneil-bridge/

i thought they did a great job addressing current issues and was surprised to see people bitching, but kansas city things I guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2021, 08:58:04 PM
The current one is my favorite bridge in the city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2021, 08:59:06 PM
But it still needs replacing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 24, 2021, 09:03:21 PM
https://fox4kc.com/news/many-including-kansas-city-mayor-not-happy-with-new-design-of-buck-oneil-bridge/

i thought they did a great job addressing current issues and was surprised to see people bitching, but kansas city things I guess

It was also KC things to bitch about a more expensive "luxury" bond bridge back in the day.  I don't really care, it's a bridge.  This one will help open up the possibility of major north loop changes which I'm all about.

It would be cool to keep the Buck bridge if they can find a way to do it for little cash, so probably not happening.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 27, 2021, 10:18:07 AM
Anyone tried booking at Snow Creek lately?  Basically full until season over.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on March 01, 2021, 05:28:11 PM
Anyone tried booking at Snow Creek lately?  Basically full until season over.
Booking a $60 one hour private lesson should get up to 6 people a reservation
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 02, 2021, 10:25:40 AM
Anyone tried booking at Snow Creek lately?  Basically full until season over.
Booking a $60 one hour private lesson should get up to 6 people a reservation

2 of the 3 are too young to ski.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2021, 07:42:24 PM
waddell and reed is pulling out of the new downtown headquarters that they're building.  i think the city offered them ~$60M in incentives to leave OP. 

interesting aesthetic
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/waddell-reed-announces-layoffs-wont-move-to-downtown-headquarters-under-construction
 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2021, 08:57:51 PM
waddell and reed is pulling out of the new downtown headquarters that they're building.  i think the city offered them ~$60M in incentives to leave OP. 

interesting aesthetic
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/waddell-reed-announces-layoffs-wont-move-to-downtown-headquarters-under-construction

Very dumb company to offer anything.  Crazy worst case scenario.  Hopefully it gets finished.  W&R was just going to lease it from the builder/owner so what a mess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2021, 09:28:36 AM
Gotta finish it.  Then who knows.  There is about to be a glut of Class A office space.  Time to rent for cheap
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2021, 10:17:43 AM
Gotta finish it.  Then who knows.  There is about to be a glut of Class A office space.  Time to rent for cheap
absolutely 
city planners better get to work on 1) how to recover lost tax revenue, which leads to 2) rezoning these commercial office spaces into residential
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2021, 10:38:48 AM
Gotta finish it.  Then who knows.  There is about to be a glut of Class A office space.  Time to rent for cheap
absolutely 
city planners better get to work on 1) how to recover lost tax revenue, which leads to 2) rezoning these commercial office spaces into residential

This was designed so it could be moved to residential even the garage levels.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2021, 10:39:26 AM
Alamo drafthouse not reopening. Loved their approach to movie watching.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 03, 2021, 10:40:16 AM
This rough ridin' blows!

https://twitter.com/kcconcerts/status/1367132008791605253?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2021, 10:42:35 AM
Alamo drafthouse not reopening. Loved their approach to movie watching.

Crap, that stings.  Hopefully someone else can make a run.  It's not like that space can be used for much else.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2021, 10:46:32 AM
Alamo drafthouse not reopening. Loved their approach to movie watching.

Crap, that stings.  Hopefully someone else can make a run.  It's not like that space can be used for much else.

Casino!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 03, 2021, 10:56:10 AM
That place was a hot date spot for the Mrs and I on the weekend when we lived downtown for 4 years. HH at Bar Louie and then the Alamo. What a combo!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on March 03, 2021, 11:30:55 AM
Having waiters running around during a movie never sounded appealing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 03, 2021, 11:38:19 AM
Alamo is great, and I will always be a patron, so long as they exist.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 03, 2021, 11:42:41 AM
They even had live bands at the bar before movies. Quite the place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2021, 11:50:55 AM
Having waiters running around during a movie never sounded appealing

When they are bringing you booze drinks it works, trust me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 03, 2021, 12:09:19 PM
They’re in black and duck down anyways.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 03, 2021, 12:30:41 PM
Gotta finish it.  Then who knows.  There is about to be a glut of Class A office space.  Time to rent for cheap
absolutely 
city planners better get to work on 1) how to recover lost tax revenue,

it was a vacant 4 story 1960's building + empty lot before construction started. even if the new building sits vacant it will generate more property tax (even at a 75% reduction or whatever the city incentives were) than the lot was generating before, right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 03, 2021, 12:41:20 PM
Alamo is a gut punch, was upset hearing that this morning
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2021, 12:49:46 PM
Gotta finish it.  Then who knows.  There is about to be a glut of Class A office space.  Time to rent for cheap
absolutely 
city planners better get to work on 1) how to recover lost tax revenue,

it was a vacant 4 story 1960's building + empty lot before construction started. even if the new building sits vacant it will generate more property tax (even at a 75% reduction or whatever the city incentives were) than the lot was generating before, right?

not looking at this building in a vacuum.  downtown in whole is going to be hurt due to full time wfh and lowering commerical office space pricing per square foot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sys on March 16, 2021, 02:41:18 AM
kinda sucky thread.

https://twitter.com/cwshevlin/status/1371519839983042562
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 16, 2021, 06:56:04 AM
Looks like they really did pave paradise
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2021, 11:10:04 AM
lmao

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1811-Madison-Ave-Kansas-City-MO-64108/109842942_zpid/?mmlb=g,2 (https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1811-Madison-Ave-Kansas-City-MO-64108/109842942_zpid/?mmlb=g,2)

(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/27633d8477550ecc5fce0284a8c8811a-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 18, 2021, 11:15:11 AM
lmao

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1811-Madison-Ave-Kansas-City-MO-64108/109842942_zpid/?mmlb=g,2 (https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1811-Madison-Ave-Kansas-City-MO-64108/109842942_zpid/?mmlb=g,2)

(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/27633d8477550ecc5fce0284a8c8811a-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)

Everytime I run by that house I can't stop staring in amazement.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2021, 11:29:18 AM
$500,000 for that?  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 18, 2021, 11:30:44 AM
$500,000 for that?  :sdeek:

westside neighborhood architecture professionals are very proud of trying to outdo each other.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2021, 11:59:43 AM
$500,000 for that?  :sdeek:

this is what you see when you come home every day

(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/8b3c8123d8f01c50d52fadab8b80b753-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2021, 03:10:02 PM
So great curb appeal, lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 18, 2021, 03:10:43 PM
It's paradise.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2021, 03:10:57 PM
I like it. Seems secluded.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 18, 2021, 03:12:26 PM
I would install a back door, but otherwise, I'm not sure how to make that place better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
I would install a back door, but otherwise, I'm not sure how to make that place better.

like, a trap door?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2021, 03:19:10 PM
I would install a back door, but otherwise, I'm not sure how to make that place better.

like, a trap door?

A moon door.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 18, 2021, 03:24:52 PM
Yes, a moon door.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2021, 03:42:44 PM
seems cool except for that hideous concrete bedroom. Not a lot of homes for sale between DT and the Plaza!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 18, 2021, 10:57:32 PM
$260 per sq ft for it is too much
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2021, 09:55:03 PM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
In River Market?  I went there earlier this summer.  It's no Jose Peppers, but I really enjoyed it.

Thanks Dlew.  We should meet up there some time and crush margs like bosses.
Let’s dip out of the office at lunch and get shitfaced one of these fridays before it gets too cold

and just like that 2 of the gE power players set up a pak
I went here tonight and loved it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 08, 2021, 08:42:26 AM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
In River Market?  I went there earlier this summer.  It's no Jose Peppers, but I really enjoyed it.

Thanks Dlew.  We should meet up there some time and crush margs like bosses.
Let’s dip out of the office at lunch and get shitfaced one of these fridays before it gets too cold

and just like that 2 of the gE power players set up a pak
I went here tonight and loved it

Please detail what was loved.  I haven't had good luck here.  FYI they are opening a tapas place next door.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 08, 2021, 09:07:17 AM
Kmacho's is in danger of taking over my number 1 favorite mexican restaurant spot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 08, 2021, 09:21:50 AM
It's a shame you jokers don't frequent at Margaritas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 08, 2021, 09:35:19 AM
Kmacho's is in danger of taking over my number 1 favorite mexican restaurant spot

 :surprised: I never thought I'd see the day that Jose's was threatened and DEFINITELY did not see Kmacho's coming for the crown.

I've went to Kmacho's once like 3 years ago and it was very MEH. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2021, 09:37:22 AM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
In River Market?  I went there earlier this summer.  It's no Jose Peppers, but I really enjoyed it.

Thanks Dlew.  We should meet up there some time and crush margs like bosses.
Let’s dip out of the office at lunch and get shitfaced one of these fridays before it gets too cold

and just like that 2 of the gE power players set up a pak
I went here tonight and loved it

Please detail what was loved.  I haven't had good luck here.  FYI they are opening a tapas place next door.

their chips and salsa was good, i got the cowboy junkie, it was also good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 08, 2021, 09:56:04 AM
Kmachos steak is the BITB
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 08, 2021, 11:04:38 AM
what is the scoop on the KC Taco Company?
In River Market?  I went there earlier this summer.  It's no Jose Peppers, but I really enjoyed it.

Thanks Dlew.  We should meet up there some time and crush margs like bosses.
Let’s dip out of the office at lunch and get shitfaced one of these fridays before it gets too cold

and just like that 2 of the gE power players set up a pak
I went here tonight and loved it

Please detail what was loved.  I haven't had good luck here.  FYI they are opening a tapas place next door.

their chips and salsa was good, i got the cowboy junkie, it was also good

First hit in google search  :ROFL:
http://www.kctacocompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/cowboy-junkie-burrito.jpg
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 08, 2021, 04:09:24 PM
i was looking forward to shakespeare in the park this year  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 21, 2021, 04:02:43 PM
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2021/04/13/the-golden-scoop-grand-opening-119027/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 21, 2021, 08:10:51 PM
Ha

https://twitter.com/ZachIsHere/status/1385020319304404993?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 23, 2021, 01:26:29 PM
https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1385646182979018755?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 23, 2021, 01:35:24 PM
I hear B&B is an even better chain than Alamo?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 23, 2021, 02:03:52 PM
was hoping that alamo would be renovated into a giant indoor skatepark and video game arena
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 23, 2021, 02:14:02 PM
was hoping that alamo would be renovated into a giant indoor skatepark and video game arena

How about one of those Japanese Pachinko parlor places?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on April 23, 2021, 04:24:20 PM
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2021/04/13/the-golden-scoop-grand-opening-119027/

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/968726234503312024/D785948934C3FB0077CEB551E37C5DF463564E50/)
I wish I could bookmark posts so I can find this place next time I'm in KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 23, 2021, 04:25:49 PM
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2021/04/13/the-golden-scoop-grand-opening-119027/

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/968726234503312024/D785948934C3FB0077CEB551E37C5DF463564E50/)
I wish I could bookmark posts so I can find this place next time I'm in KC
:thumbs: I think I'm going to try it this weekend. I'll report back.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 06, 2021, 09:31:26 PM
How long until this shitty MCI airport gets razed to the ground? Just waited half an hour for the rental car shuttle to come around, only to find a 45 minute line to check out a rental car
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2021, 09:55:38 PM
How long until this shitty MCI airport gets razed to the ground? Just waited half an hour for the rental car shuttle to come around, only to find a 45 minute line to check out a rental car
At least you had lots of space in the rental car center
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2021, 06:27:57 AM
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2021/04/13/the-golden-scoop-grand-opening-119027/

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/968726234503312024/D785948934C3FB0077CEB551E37C5DF463564E50/)
I wish I could bookmark posts so I can find this place next time I'm in KC

Star it on Google maps. That's my way to remind myself of places I want to try
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2021, 06:30:21 AM
How long until this shitty MCI airport gets razed to the ground? Just waited half an hour for the rental car shuttle to come around, only to find a 45 minute line to check out a rental car
At least you had lots of space in the rental car center

Spring 2023. Just passed halfway and on target schedule wise. One of the best covid things is it kept me out of there for a year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on May 07, 2021, 06:36:55 AM
Gus’s is coming to Stanley!!!


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 07, 2021, 04:10:21 PM
jaywalking is no longer a ticketable offense in kcmo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2021, 04:16:02 PM
jaywalking is no longer a ticketable offense in kcmo

It's not even against the law right, didn't they wipe it totally off the books? Dirty bike wheels too!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2021, 04:42:42 PM
I don't think what people consider jaywalking is actually illegal in very many places

in a lot of places, crossing mid-block with no crosswalk is far safer than crossing at a corner with a crosswalk because drivers are so bad.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 07, 2021, 04:46:49 PM
I don't think what people consider jaywalking is actually illegal in very many places

in a lot of places, crossing mid-block with no crosswalk is far safer than crossing at a corner with a crosswalk because drivers are so bad.

xpost best to avoid all cops thread, but in Switzerland (ie., the future), you will definitely get your ass tackled for jaywalking under any circumstance. If you jaywalk around a local, they will look at you like you just murdered a child.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2021, 04:57:30 PM
I don't think what people consider jaywalking is actually illegal in very many places

in a lot of places, crossing mid-block with no crosswalk is far safer than crossing at a corner with a crosswalk because drivers are so bad.

Very true.  In our case, these laws were all rescinded as they were being used against minority populations at a way higher rate.  Probably why they were passed in the first place.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 20, 2021, 12:03:11 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/article251554573.html (https://www.kansascity.com/article251554573.html)

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Mayor Quinton Lucas, in charge of a city that has no local control over its police department, is pursuing a strategy to upend how the Kansas City Police Department is funded to give City Hall more say on how the department spends its money.

Lucas is expected to introduce two ordinances during Thursday’s City Council meeting.

“I think it finally gives the people of Kansas City some accountability of policing activities in their city,” Lucas said Thursday. “I hope it compels the police department to engage more actively in a lot of our newer approaches to violence prevention.”

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The new ordinances come as KCPD Chief Rick Smith, whose police get more money from the city’s general fund budget than any other department, has complained that the department has been unable to bring on a new academy class since February 2020. The KCPD received $239 million in the current year budget, but police officials have been asking for more money over the last week.

KCPD is governed by the Board of Kansas City Police Commissioners, whose members are appointed by the Missouri governor, except for the mayor of Kansas City who always has a seat on the commission. The Kansas City Council has little influence over the police department aside from approving its budget.

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But even in approving its budget, it has little say in how the police spend the money. Lucas said his strategy aims to give the city leadership more influence in police spending.

Lucas’ ordinances work in two steps.

The first ordinance reduces the KCPD budget by $44 million. That would result in KCPD’s budget equaling 20% of the city’s general fund revenue, which Missouri law requires as the minimum Kansas City can devote to policing.

But that doesn’t mean KCPD’s budget is actually slashed to the minimum allowed by state law.

That $44 million is reallocated to what the city calls a “Community Services and Prevention Fund.” Kansas City Manager Brian Platt and the police commissioners would then negotiate on how to spend that money.

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Lucas said his ordinances do not functionally cut the police budget — in fact, it earmarks an additional $3 million to pay for a new police academy class — but instead gives City Hall more say in how KCPD spends money.

“It does not defund; indeed, it actually increases funds, but it does create an area of I think substantial accountability that has been lacking in this city since the 1940s,” Lucas said in an interview.

Lucas said his ordinance has at least eight co-sponsors, which gives him an apparent majority to pass the ordinances.

While the Board of Police Commissioners is not bound to negotiate with City Hall on the other $44 million, Lucas said an absence of cooperation from the commissioners would mean they’re the ones cutting the police budget.

Lucas said he developed this latest strategy after seeing poor results in combating violent crime in Kansas City. Last year, the city broke a record in yearly homicides with 176.


Even with last year’s dubious distinction, Lucas said the city’s trend with homicides has been troubling over the course of his life.

“‘I’ve been alive for 36 years, and there have been about 4,500 people murdered in Kansas City,” Lucas said. “That is more than the Americans who died in the Iraq War, almost double the Americans who died in the Afghanistan War. These are traumatic numbers.”

There’s precedent for City Hall to enter into contracts with departments and outside agencies that spend the city’s tax dollars. The city has an agreement with the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority on how it spends a portion of city sales tax earmarked for transportation. It also has an agreement with VisitKC, which also receives city funding.

It’s not clear yet how police will react to Lucas’ proposal. Already this month KCPD leadership has been suggesting that the police are not adequately funded.

Smith last week published a post on his online blog that said a hiring freeze is depleting his department’s staffing.


Smith wrote that KCPD is losing more than eight officers a month due to attrition, a problem he said was compounded by the police department not having an academy class of new recruits since February 2020.

“We are down 116 officers and do not have the budget to replace them,” Smith wrote.

Two KCPD officials testified on Wednesday to the Kansas City Council’s Finance, Governance and Public Safety Committee that staffing issues have caused some police officers being dispatched to parts of the city outside their patrol zones.

Smith’s blog post said other KCPD departments are experiencing staffing shortages, too, including being down 11 positions in the crime laboratory.

There was some skepticism about Smith’s post in City Hall.


Platt, through a city spokesman, said that a member of the police department who retires from a senior rank position has a salary at or near $150,000 and can be replaced with a recruit who has a starting salary around $40,000 without requiring additional funds.

“In addition, the reductions in the KCPD budget were not only a suggestion from the police chief during the budget process but were for the most part eliminating positions in the budget that were currently unfilled,” city spokesman Chris Hernandez said in an email. “This right-sizing of the budget should have no impact on current service delivery.”

Smith’s post concluded by calling for readers to contact their city council representatives and request that KCPD get a share of the $97.5 million that Kansas City received from the American Rescue Plan Act.

Currently there are no plans to give KCPD a cut of federal funding. Lucas said the city’s policy is to avoid using one-time funds like the federal pandemic stimulus funding to support ongoing expenses.

“They would like rescue plan (funds), they are not in line to get any rescue plan funds at this current moment,” Lucas said.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2021, 02:25:18 PM
good
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 20, 2021, 02:53:36 PM
I don't think what people consider jaywalking is actually illegal in very many places

in a lot of places, crossing mid-block with no crosswalk is far safer than crossing at a corner with a crosswalk because drivers are so bad.

xpost best to avoid all cops thread, but in Switzerland (ie., the future), you will definitely get your ass tackled for jaywalking under any circumstance. If you jaywalk around a local, they will look at you like you just murdered a child.

In Germany Phil & I got yelled at for jaywalking across an empty, narrow street in a residential area at 11:30pm by 2 guys on bikes 2 blocks away.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 20, 2021, 04:15:20 PM
good

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 31, 2021, 06:43:23 PM
I sat next to Iowa State football coach Matt Campbell at Gram and Dunn on Friday.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 31, 2021, 10:15:42 PM
I sat next to Iowa State football coach Matt Campbell at Gram and Dunn on Friday.

Did you give him a noogie and say "just playing my flood aggie bro!"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2021, 09:34:48 PM
https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1410612332498018313?s=21
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 02, 2021, 06:01:08 AM
Thanks ICE!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 02, 2021, 02:19:15 PM
https://twitter.com/TheFastPitch/status/1411037942475280385?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 02, 2021, 03:51:42 PM
holy moly
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 02, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
Let's give them more money that will fix the problem.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 03, 2021, 12:57:16 PM
Let's give them more money that will fix the problem.

What's a KCMO cop make? 

1. Change union and culture.  The idea of The Thin Blue Line needs to be eradicated and individuals need to not cover up others' issues and hold people accountable. 
2. pay more money.  Get better candidates.  Have to make it worthwhile to deal with the crap cops have to deal with.
3. frequent required mental health assessment and some periodical means of addressing the crap cops have to deal with so that we don't end up with calloused sociopaths with PTSD.
4. lot more training to become a cop.  Lot more training regularly.  Weekly, monthly, whatever.  More training.  Also, better training.  How to de-escalate.

All that crap takes a lot of money. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on July 03, 2021, 05:58:09 PM
Let's give them more money that will fix the problem.

What's a KCMO cop make? 

1. Change union and culture.  The idea of The Thin Blue Line needs to be eradicated and individuals need to not cover up others' issues and hold people accountable. 
2. pay more money.  Get better candidates.  Have to make it worthwhile to deal with the crap cops have to deal with.
3. frequent required mental health assessment and some periodical means of addressing the crap cops have to deal with so that we don't end up with calloused sociopaths with PTSD.
4. lot more training to become a cop.  Lot more training regularly.  Weekly, monthly, whatever.  More training.  Also, better training.  How to de-escalate.

All that crap takes a lot of money.

Is it you that keeps on insisting that cops don't make enough money and I've debunked this several times? A 1st year KCMO cop starts at $50,000 by year 5 they're already at $75,000. That's for officers without any college at all, they pay more based on level of education. Like any other job, it absolutely doesn't work to make the salary enough where one will find the job tolerable, that's not attainable, in any career.

In addition to this you are seemingly tying how much money someone makes with their capacity of being a dickbag, and we know that isn't true and is classist.

#1 on your list has nothing to do with money. Numbers three and four can be addressed by budget tightening. The Des Moines Police Department spent $10,000 to send a single cop to training in Orlando, I'm guessing that level of wasteful spending isn't limited to Des Moines. It's absurd to think police departments don't already have enough money to get better. The KCMOPD has a budget of $240 million per year. That's almost $2.5 Billion each decade.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CNS on July 04, 2021, 02:01:32 PM
Let's give them more money that will fix the problem.

What's a KCMO cop make? 

1. Change union and culture.  The idea of The Thin Blue Line needs to be eradicated and individuals need to not cover up others' issues and hold people accountable. 
2. pay more money.  Get better candidates.  Have to make it worthwhile to deal with the crap cops have to deal with.
3. frequent required mental health assessment and some periodical means of addressing the crap cops have to deal with so that we don't end up with calloused sociopaths with PTSD.
4. lot more training to become a cop.  Lot more training regularly.  Weekly, monthly, whatever.  More training.  Also, better training.  How to de-escalate.

All that crap takes a lot of money.

Is it you that keeps on insisting that cops don't make enough money and I've debunked this several times? A 1st year KCMO cop starts at $50,000 by year 5 they're already at $75,000. That's for officers without any college at all, they pay more based on level of education. Like any other job, it absolutely doesn't work to make the salary enough where one will find the job tolerable, that's not attainable, in any career.

In addition to this you are seemingly tying how much money someone makes with their capacity of being a dickbag, and we know that isn't true and is classist.

#1 on your list has nothing to do with money. Numbers three and four can be addressed by budget tightening. The Des Moines Police Department spent $10,000 to send a single cop to training in Orlando, I'm guessing that level of wasteful spending isn't limited to Des Moines. It's absurd to think police departments don't already have enough money to get better. The KCMOPD has a budget of $240 million per year. That's almost $2.5 Billion each decade.

I haven't seen you respond to a cop post of mine yet, so :dunno:

As for salary, I stand corrected.

As far as classist goes, I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect a larger pool of candidates for a job that makes more money.  Especially if that job is full of violence and drama.  They need a better hiring process to weed out assholes, they need more support to help them not become assholes, they need more training to make them more effective and not go immediately to a sitch with a gun drawn, and I stand by my union and culture comments so they can get rid of current assholes.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on July 04, 2021, 06:55:02 PM
Let's give them more money that will fix the problem.

What's a KCMO cop make? 

1. Change union and culture.  The idea of The Thin Blue Line needs to be eradicated and individuals need to not cover up others' issues and hold people accountable. 
2. pay more money.  Get better candidates.  Have to make it worthwhile to deal with the crap cops have to deal with.
3. frequent required mental health assessment and some periodical means of addressing the crap cops have to deal with so that we don't end up with calloused sociopaths with PTSD.
4. lot more training to become a cop.  Lot more training regularly.  Weekly, monthly, whatever.  More training.  Also, better training.  How to de-escalate.

All that crap takes a lot of money.

Is it you that keeps on insisting that cops don't make enough money and I've debunked this several times? A 1st year KCMO cop starts at $50,000 by year 5 they're already at $75,000. That's for officers without any college at all, they pay more based on level of education. Like any other job, it absolutely doesn't work to make the salary enough where one will find the job tolerable, that's not attainable, in any career.

In addition to this you are seemingly tying how much money someone makes with their capacity of being a dickbag, and we know that isn't true and is classist.

#1 on your list has nothing to do with money. Numbers three and four can be addressed by budget tightening. The Des Moines Police Department spent $10,000 to send a single cop to training in Orlando, I'm guessing that level of wasteful spending isn't limited to Des Moines. It's absurd to think police departments don't already have enough money to get better. The KCMOPD has a budget of $240 million per year. That's almost $2.5 Billion each decade.

I haven't seen you respond to a cop post of mine yet, so :dunno:

As for salary, I stand corrected.

As far as classist goes, I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect a larger pool of candidates for a job that makes more money.  Especially if that job is full of violence and drama.  They need a better hiring process to weed out assholes, they need more support to help them not become assholes, they need more training to make them more effective and not go immediately to a sitch with a gun drawn, and I stand by my union and culture comments so they can get rid of current assholes.

I agree with you with the union and assholes thing, although I'm not about busting them. The current nature of policing in America attracts the assholes, it's a self feeding monster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2021, 12:38:00 PM
Man, downtown KC construction is a crap show right now. WOOF! Zero detour signs, all major highways closed, etc. Get your crap together!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2021, 01:41:10 PM
:love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2021, 01:46:05 PM
Liberal leadership at it’s finest! SMGDH! It really is amazing the difference between Missouri and Kansas state lines.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2021, 06:19:15 PM
Wait which state has the Republican governor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2021, 06:35:59 PM
Wait which state has the Republican governor
I literally have no clue, the mayor of KC talks a lot though and went to HS with Nick Wright, so scene!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 22, 2021, 06:54:51 PM
Wait which state has the Republican governor
I literally have no clue, the mayor of KC talks a lot though and went to HS with Nick Wright, so scene!

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2021, 07:15:34 PM
Oh, No, tbt is about to get #Zapped, folks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 23, 2021, 10:23:03 AM
On saturday morning i went to the costco near main street and headed back to waldo/brookside via gillham.  I ussually take gillham to 45th to oak to make my way South of the plaza. Oak was closed south of 45rd. I then proceeded to try and figure out an alternate route.  It literally took me about 20 minutes to figure out a way out of the closed streets.  Total shitshow.  I must have seen about 25 cops devoted to shutting streets down in the area.  I initially thought there must have been some kind of race or something, but apparently not.  I got to the point where I was checking twitter/reddit because it was such a cluster...tons of cars having no idea where to go, but nothing.  my final guess was that there was a manhunt happening and the cops wanted to create a perimeter.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2021, 10:26:25 AM
it was Pride Fest!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2021, 10:28:09 AM
lmao dlew
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2021, 10:30:40 AM
Man, downtown KC construction is a crap show right now. WOOF! Zero detour signs, all major highways closed, etc. Get your crap together!

Talking about the north loop closure this past weekend?  I shot down the plaza a couple times this weekend but my ubers took 71. 

The future removal of the north loop permanently will need a lot of tweaks to the rest of the interstate loop for sure.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 23, 2021, 10:36:01 AM
it was Pride Fest!
i checked that but it said it was sunday!

also the detour signs the cops put out just sent everyone in a circle.  it felt like i was being punk'd.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2021, 10:48:15 AM
it was Pride Fest!
i checked that but it said it was sunday!

also the detour signs the cops put out just sent everyone in a circle.  it felt like i was being punk'd.

Pride was all weekend but the parade that closed the streets was Saturday.  Got caught in it too.  Cops definitely could have gotten out and helped traffic. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 23, 2021, 10:49:07 AM
Man, downtown KC construction is a crap show right now. WOOF! Zero detour signs, all major highways closed, etc. Get your crap together!

Talking about the north loop closure this past weekend?  I shot down the plaza a couple times this weekend but my ubers took 71. 

The future removal of the north loop permanently will need a lot of tweaks to the rest of the interstate loop for sure.
Yup! No warning signs either. Went to the River Market yesterday and had to take like a 30 minute detour. What a mess.

Wasn't there some comiccon event too this past weekend?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 23, 2021, 10:53:55 AM
Man, downtown KC construction is a crap show right now. WOOF! Zero detour signs, all major highways closed, etc. Get your crap together!

Talking about the north loop closure this past weekend?  I shot down the plaza a couple times this weekend but my ubers took 71. 

The future removal of the north loop permanently will need a lot of tweaks to the rest of the interstate loop for sure.
Yup! No warning signs either. Went to the River Market yesterday and had to take like a 30 minute detour. What a mess.

Wasn't there some comiccon event too this past weekend?

Yeah I think comicon was at Bartle.  There were any alerts on highway signs?  MoDot is so awesome!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 23, 2021, 10:55:42 AM
it was Pride Fest!
i checked that but it said it was sunday!

also the detour signs the cops put out just sent everyone in a circle.  it felt like i was being punk'd.

Pride was all weekend but the parade that closed the streets was Saturday.  Got caught in it too.  Cops definitely could have gotten out and helped traffic.
well i'll be dog-gonned!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2021, 11:04:12 AM
Man, downtown KC construction is a crap show right now. WOOF! Zero detour signs, all major highways closed, etc. Get your crap together!

Talking about the north loop closure this past weekend?  I shot down the plaza a couple times this weekend but my ubers took 71. 

The future removal of the north loop permanently will need a lot of tweaks to the rest of the interstate loop for sure.
Yup! No warning signs either. Went to the River Market yesterday and had to take like a 30 minute detour. What a mess.

Wasn't there some comiccon event too this past weekend?

Yeah I think comicon was at Bartle.  There were any alerts on highway signs?  MoDot is so awesome!

There have been signs up for 3 weeks saying 70 would be shut down.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 23, 2021, 11:11:19 AM
Where? Where are the detour signs?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2021, 11:14:13 AM
Certainly possible they didn't properly detour people on the day of the closure, but I drive down 35 through to 169 north of the river every day for work and there has been closure warnings on both for 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Katpappy on August 23, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
Way to make em look out the reality window, SS7.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on August 23, 2021, 09:27:35 PM
Sounds like some small town boys weren’t quite ready for big city life in the fast lane.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on August 24, 2021, 06:54:48 AM
Sounds like some small town boys weren’t quite ready for big city life in the fast lane.

Took what I was going to say.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2021, 06:59:28 AM
Daytrippers getting caught up in the hustle and bustle. It happens.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2021, 07:51:02 AM
 :lol: I lived down there for 4 years & my wife's work building is downtown too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2021, 09:44:32 AM
I was just in downtown KC a few weeks ago, navigated all the detours just fine.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 25, 2021, 05:04:21 PM
who's going to the Lee's Summit Hy-Vee today to see 50 Cent?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 26, 2021, 03:13:42 PM
who's going to the Lee's Summit Hy-Vee today to see 50 Cent?

How was this?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on August 26, 2021, 03:16:50 PM
lol, no idea
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on August 27, 2021, 12:43:30 PM
He was up here too, weird that he's just boosting visiting random Hyvees.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 05, 2021, 07:06:57 AM
KCI:  Ridiculous loop for rental return then a circle back detour on bus to terminal.

Not one place open to grab a preflight Bloody Mary and some breakfast.

New terminal can’t get here soon enough.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 05, 2021, 10:20:43 AM
KCI:  Ridiculous loop for rental return then a circle back detour on bus to terminal.

Not one place open to grab a preflight Bloody Mary and some breakfast.

New terminal can’t get here soon enough.

It is very bad
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on September 06, 2021, 12:57:36 PM
KCI:  Ridiculous loop for rental return then a circle back detour on bus to terminal.

Not one place open to grab a preflight Bloody Mary and some breakfast.

New terminal can’t get here soon enough.
Louisville upgraded the rental car experience this year. Drop off and pickup now all enclosed in lower level of terminal adjacent parking garage.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 08, 2021, 08:10:52 AM
KCI:  Ridiculous loop for rental return then a circle back detour on bus to terminal.

Not one place open to grab a preflight Bloody Mary and some breakfast.

New terminal can’t get here soon enough.
Louisville upgraded the rental car experience this year. Drop off and pickup now all enclosed in lower level of terminal adjacent parking garage.

a huge airport with a remote rental facility where you have to wait for a shuttle sucks
a tiny airport where there is no avis preferred / budget fastbreak (or whatever) line bypass also sucks.
the medium size airport where you walk across the street to the parking garage, see your name on a sign, and walk directly to your car with the keys in it is bitb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 08:44:54 AM
Kci won't abandon the rental car facility completely but they are talking about putting some cars for elites in the garage and later putting in an APM to a new economy lot and rental car facility
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 08, 2021, 08:49:58 AM
What are your guys favorite parking situation at the airport there? I'm team Park Air Express all day, everyday!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 08, 2021, 09:01:33 AM
Uber
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 08, 2021, 09:30:50 AM
Kci won't abandon the rental car facility completely but they are talking about putting some cars for elites in the garage and later putting in an APM to a new economy lot and rental car facility

i saw there will be a little over 6000 spots in the new garage. have no idea what this translates to vs current parking lots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 08, 2021, 09:39:39 AM
What are your guys favorite parking situation at the airport there? I'm team Park Air Express all day, everyday!

valet
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on September 08, 2021, 09:52:44 AM
KCI:  Ridiculous loop for rental return then a circle back detour on bus to terminal.

Not one place open to grab a preflight Bloody Mary and some breakfast.

New terminal can’t get here soon enough.
Louisville upgraded the rental car experience this year. Drop off and pickup now all enclosed in lower level of terminal adjacent parking garage.

a huge airport with a remote rental facility where you have to wait for a shuttle sucks
a tiny airport where there is no avis preferred / budget fastbreak (or whatever) line bypass also sucks.
the medium size airport where you walk across the street to the parking garage, see your name on a sign, and walk directly to your car with the keys in it is bitb
I haven't seen the new rental setup in action. Hopefully they now let the elite levels bypass the counter. That crap is always a drag.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 09:58:36 AM
Uber

This is where I'm at. Every other options sucks. Termy is fine but usually more than RT Uber and even then it's annoying based on the horseshoe design of the terminal can make it an annoying walk if don't park in tje right spot.

If I do economy I usually just do the kci option. Had stuff stolen from my car while at air express.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 10:01:40 AM
Kci won't abandon the rental car facility completely but they are talking about putting some cars for elites in the garage and later putting in an APM to a new economy lot and rental car facility

i saw there will be a little over 6000 spots in the new garage. have no idea what this translates to vs current parking lots

2000 in each current garage. Economy around 10k
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2021, 10:10:04 AM
Most people that go there don't have to deal with it, but the rental car facility in Las Vegas is a complete nightmare, awful.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 10:35:40 AM
Most people that go there don't have to deal with it, but the rental car facility in Las Vegas is a complete nightmare, awful.

Very bad. I used it once when we flew to Vegas vs Phoenix for a bowl game.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 08, 2021, 10:37:20 AM
Uber
I should really do this more, but I'm always trying to save the company $.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 08, 2021, 10:43:11 AM
Uber
I should really do this more, but I'm always trying to save the company $.

Uber can be less expensive than a rental in many cities after you add parking fees. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on September 08, 2021, 10:51:17 AM
pre covid i would always park in the uncrowded Terminal C garage and walk over to B if needed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 08, 2021, 11:02:37 AM
i am a circle lot between B and C type of guy. $15.50 per day
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 11:05:28 AM
i am a circle lot between B and C type of guy. $15.50 per day

Risky now a days to rely on circle. That one specifically always seems full
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: BW on September 08, 2021, 11:30:19 AM
I work across the highway from airport. They are getting ready to build a other 6k space lot here. Built one two years ago and just reopened after COVID. Looks like the Park and Ride expanding. Parking spot never full except Thanksgiving and Spring Break. New garage at airport. Does everyone think ridership going to triple with new terminal?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 08, 2021, 11:43:20 AM
I work across the highway from airport. They are getting ready to build a other 6k space lot here. Built one two years ago and just reopened after COVID. Looks like the Park and Ride expanding. Parking spot never full except Thanksgiving and Spring Break. New garage at airport. Does everyone think ridership going to triple with new terminal?

of course not but they are demolishing the circle lots, and the existing term B parking garage will be for employees. term C parking garage will remain up but not used for parking.
i have no idea what is going to happen with all the economy surface lots
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 11:51:30 AM
If they do get the closer economy lot built I'm sure the current ones will be given up for redevelopment.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: BW on September 08, 2021, 11:54:21 AM
Also a Taco Bell, McDonalds/Whataburger and  Casey's/QuikTrip going in.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on September 08, 2021, 01:14:32 PM
I still can’t believe they didn’t use the new terminal as an opportunity to relocate the airport.  What a disaster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2021, 01:46:51 PM
ya I was hoping they’d make it closer to the GD city!!!  why not name it Platte City International damn it?!?!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2021, 02:15:59 PM
I appreciate that KCI is a pilot favorite. 

I like happy pilots. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 08, 2021, 03:15:10 PM
Locating an airport to a new spot that is near development would be a nightmare. Airplanes are loud.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 08, 2021, 03:38:50 PM
plus where it is located now is good for the local iowa economy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 03:53:10 PM
I still can’t believe they didn’t use the new terminal as an opportunity to relocate the airport.  What a disaster.

Like all the runways and everything or just move the terminal to the south side of the current airport to be closer to the city?

If a totally new location, where would you have put it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on September 08, 2021, 06:31:06 PM
Guys, I understand that it’s extremely challenging and an outright pain in the ass but it’s something they should’ve been planning for years in order to improve the quality of life for kansas citians. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 06:55:49 PM
Guys, I understand that it’s extremely challenging and an outright pain in the ass but it’s something they should’ve been planning for years in order to improve the quality of life for kansas citians.

Where would you have put it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 08, 2021, 07:44:04 PM
I don't really get the complaint about the airport location.  I spent the better part of 20 years flying multiple times a month out of KCI (sometimes once a week for years) and never once did I think "Man, this is a bad location for an airport."  for several years I made the commute from Lawrence, and for the rest of the time I traveled from North OP.  I probably get back to flying eventually to some degree, and am really looking forward to the new terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 08, 2021, 08:35:18 PM
It's too far away from everything obviously, but I think kim carnes underestimates how unbelievably hard it is to get absolutely anything at all done in kansas city. Like 50% of the residents do not want anything to ever change or improve no matter what
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2021, 09:21:21 PM
I don't really get the complaint about the airport location.  I spent the better part of 20 years flying multiple times a month out of KCI (sometimes once a week for years) and never once did I think "Man, this is a bad location for an airport."  for several years I made the commute from Lawrence, and for the rest of the time I traveled from North OP.  I probably get back to flying eventually to some degree, and am really looking forward to the new terminal.
this is where i’m at.  it’s funny that it’s the people who’ve chosen to live way the eff out of the city who complain about the airport being way the eff out of the city
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 08, 2021, 09:24:52 PM
It's 20 minutes from city center.  That's pretty hard to bitch about tbh.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2021, 09:46:48 PM
yeah and maybe 40 from op?  it’s just not much of a big deal to drive there from anywhere in the city (the same thing can be said about driving to/from anywhere in kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on September 09, 2021, 11:11:43 AM
It's 20 minutes from city center.  That's pretty hard to bitch about tbh.

Are you referring to downtown as city center?  The vast majority of the kc metro population is south of downtown.  Anyways it doesn’t matter. The ship has sailed, opportunity blown.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2021, 12:25:32 PM
Wonder what the population center of the kc metro is. I'd guess 75th and troost?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 09, 2021, 12:59:41 PM
Wonder what the population center of the kc metro is. I'd guess 75th and troost?

i am a huge nerd so i've actually looked into this. it's not 100% exact because i took each of the 79 municipalities officially considered part of the kc metro area, and took their official coordinates and populations from wiki, and found where the weighted center of the metro is.

turns out it's directly inside of Loose Park (39.029, -94.594)

i may need to update for the new census data
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 09, 2021, 01:00:58 PM
if you use the 15 counties instead of 79 municipalities, it's still very close (63rd & Rockhill)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 09, 2021, 01:01:39 PM
I do think it would have been good timing to do light rail from south KC all the way to the airport with various stops for parking and etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on September 09, 2021, 01:10:36 PM
Wonder what the population center of the kc metro is. I'd guess 75th and troost?

i am a huge nerd so i've actually looked into this. it's not 100% exact because i took each of the 79 municipalities officially considered part of the kc metro area, and took their official coordinates and populations from wiki, and found where the weighted center of the metro is.

turns out it's directly inside of Loose Park (39.029, -94.594)

i may need to update for the new census data

Let's put the Hyper Loop station there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2021, 01:17:31 PM
I do think it would have been good timing to do light rail from south KC all the way to the airport with various stops for parking and etc.
no one would choose to take that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2021, 01:25:48 PM
Wonder what the population center of the kc metro is. I'd guess 75th and troost?

i am a huge nerd so i've actually looked into this. it's not 100% exact because i took each of the 79 municipalities officially considered part of the kc metro area, and took their official coordinates and populations from wiki, and found where the weighted center of the metro is.

turns out it's directly inside of Loose Park (39.029, -94.594)

i may need to update for the new census data

Cool. I considered doing it too but figured a guess would be more fun. I was pulled a little too east by overestimating Lees summit area.  Do a new one with 2020 census data.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2021, 01:26:30 PM
I do think it would have been good timing to do light rail from south KC all the way to the airport with various stops for parking and etc.
no one would choose to take that

Agreed. It would also cost a bajillion
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on September 09, 2021, 01:40:09 PM
It's 20 minutes from city center.  That's pretty hard to bitch about tbh.

Are you referring to downtown as city center?  The vast majority of the kc metro population is south of downtown.  Anyways it doesn’t matter. The ship has sailed, opportunity blown.

Like, where you would put it though?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 09, 2021, 01:49:52 PM
I do think it would have been good timing to do light rail from south KC all the way to the airport with various stops for parking and etc.
no one would choose to take that

Agreed. It would also cost a bajillion
Denver did it and it is completely badass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 09, 2021, 02:15:22 PM
I know more than a few people who chose to live north of the river not because it was really their number 1 choice but because the primary bread winner was traveling 250 days a year and it was a concession to their QOL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on September 09, 2021, 02:25:42 PM
Literally 95% of people in the metro are flying one or fewer times a year. WGAF?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 09, 2021, 02:28:04 PM
What if instead of the airport we extended the street car into OP? Seems like that would be better. Most people go downtown more than 1-3 times a year.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2021, 02:49:06 PM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 09, 2021, 03:34:37 PM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:
Pretty close these days.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on September 09, 2021, 03:40:34 PM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

Most of the south op'rs I know, my pals included, rarely cross 435.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 09, 2021, 04:03:03 PM
not to harp on how jealous i am of a real city like denver but their airport is somehow even farther away from everything than ours, and yet they have a train on dedicated tracks running every 30 minutes to union station for $10.50. and once you're there they have trains going out to all corners of the suburbs.

and yes it was expensive and a giant PITA to build and i'm sure it took forever, and traffic during construction must have had the denver wackycats wearing out the term crap show. but look at it.

(https://www.rtd-denver.com/sites/default/files/image/2021-08/Rail_and_FF%20map_2021_COVID.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2021, 04:27:20 PM
Yeah, what they built is pretty sweet. Makes tons of sense for both tourists and residents.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 09, 2021, 05:23:00 PM
do you guys remember how difficult it was to get approval for like 2 miles of streetcar in the most densely populated part of kansas city? lmfao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2021, 06:11:53 PM
It sure would be nice.  Our density sucks which hurts us.  We didn't strike when the sweet federal money was available.  We have no traffic pushing for transit options.  Not to mention two states.  Lot against us.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on September 09, 2021, 06:22:48 PM
The good part is not having a convenient mass transit system like Denver makes KC way less appealing to companies/people thinking about relocating here, keeping population (and cost of living) down.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2021, 06:34:49 PM
The good part is not having a convenient mass transit system like Denver makes KC way less appealing to companies/people thinking about relocating here, keeping population (and cost of living) down.   :thumbs:

I don't think this is much of a factor of relocation given we have zero traffic. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on September 09, 2021, 06:35:01 PM
Kansas City comparing itself to Denver is dumb.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 09, 2021, 06:38:25 PM
Nothing makes Kansans more horny than Denver.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 09, 2021, 08:39:31 PM
Kansas City comparing itself to Denver is dumb.
I'm just saying I'm insanely jealous of real cities
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 09, 2021, 08:52:53 PM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

Most of the south op'rs I know, my pals included, rarely cross 435.

North op'r, I hardly cross 435 either, but you know, from the other way lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 09, 2021, 08:54:41 PM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

go all the time pre covid, and have gone 5 times since covid, which is lot more than most do so yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 09, 2021, 08:56:06 PM
I do think it would have been good timing to do light rail from south KC all the way to the airport with various stops for parking and etc.
no one would choose to take that

Agreed. It would also cost a bajillion
Denver did it and it is completely badass

I remember being at a open forum at the downtown kc library about updating the airport, and when they opened the floor up to the crazies, one guy said he had plan to make a subway from downtown to KCI for like $20 mil only, I laughed my ass off
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on September 09, 2021, 10:26:54 PM
The good part is not having a convenient mass transit system like Denver makes KC way less appealing to companies/people thinking about relocating here, keeping population (and cost of living) down.   :thumbs:
Great point, I wouldn't trade KC's level of highway traffic for Denver's mass transit system.

#FlyoverCountry4Life

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on September 09, 2021, 10:33:18 PM
The good part is not having a convenient mass transit system like Denver makes KC way less appealing to companies/people thinking about relocating here, keeping population (and cost of living) down.   :thumbs:
Great point, I wouldn't trade KC's level of highway traffic for Denver's mass transit system.

#FlyoverCountry4Life

Yeah, I was planning to traverse the KC metro recently (first time being there in a decade) and asked my friend there what time rush hour dies down. "Yeah, we don't really have rush hour...."

v jealous
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 10, 2021, 07:55:38 AM
Kansas City comparing itself to Denver is dumb.
I'm just saying I'm insanely jealous of real cities

Why don't you just move there then?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 10, 2021, 08:37:35 AM
Kansas City comparing itself to Denver is dumb.
I'm just saying I'm insanely jealous of real cities

Why don't you just move there then?

Hey!  NO!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on September 10, 2021, 09:04:10 AM
Cities are dumb.  Hey let's live in extremely close proximity to several million people.  Hey that's a great idea...if you're a dumb idiot.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 10, 2021, 10:23:30 AM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

go all the time pre covid, and have gone 5 times since covid, which is lot more than most do so yes
The OP has a river market and I have to deal with less, gross smelly looking people from Missouri now. It's a win-win.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 10, 2021, 10:24:23 AM
Cities are dumb.  Hey let's live in extremely close proximity to several million people.  Hey that's a great idea...if you're a dumb idiot.
Not being a introvert is pretty badass!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 10, 2021, 11:04:11 AM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

go all the time pre covid, and have gone 5 times since covid, which is lot more than most do so yes
The OP has a river market and I have to deal with less, gross smelly looking people from Missouri now. It's a win-win.

while OP does have a farmer's market, it is located at one of the highest points in the city and therefore there is no river there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 10, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

go all the time pre covid, and have gone 5 times since covid, which is lot more than most do so yes
The OP has a river market and I have to deal with less, gross smelly looking people from Missouri now. It's a win-win.

There isn't even a river in OP.  where are you going to the river market?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 10, 2021, 11:22:59 AM
They have a market with less smelly, rich people. It's beautiful! No bums banging on the side walks and no construction.  :love: #elite
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 10, 2021, 11:30:50 AM
They have a market with less smelly, rich people. It's beautiful! No bums banging on the side walks and no construction.  :love: #elite

but is there Habashi House?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 10, 2021, 11:31:56 AM
 :cry: No
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 10, 2021, 04:26:37 PM
I didn't mean that as an insult, I live in the city and go to the airport way more often than downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 10, 2021, 05:47:30 PM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

go all the time pre covid, and have gone 5 times since covid, which is lot more than most do so yes
The OP has a river market and I have to deal with less, gross smelly looking people from Missouri now. It's a win-win.

while OP does have a farmer's market, it is located at one of the highest points in the city and therefore there is no river there

Why I'm not worried about flooding at my place since it's like a half mile to my west  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on September 11, 2021, 10:02:33 AM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

go all the time pre covid, and have gone 5 times since covid, which is lot more than most do so yes
The OP has a river market and I have to deal with less, gross smelly looking people from Missouri now. It's a win-win.

while OP does have a farmer's market, it is located at one of the highest points in the city and therefore there is no river there

Why I'm not worried about flooding at my place since it's like a half mile to my west  :gocho:
Today I learned that cfbandyman is my neighbor. I'll see you up at Maloney's this afternoon
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 11, 2021, 11:06:01 AM
I bet most op'rs go to the airport more than downtown  :th_twocents:

go all the time pre covid, and have gone 5 times since covid, which is lot more than most do so yes
The OP has a river market and I have to deal with less, gross smelly looking people from Missouri now. It's a win-win.

while OP does have a farmer's market, it is located at one of the highest points in the city and therefore there is no river there

Why I'm not worried about flooding at my place since it's like a half mile to my west  :gocho:
Today I learned that cfbandyman is my neighbor. I'll see you up at Maloney's this afternoon

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 12, 2021, 09:19:46 AM
wacky calling the OP farmer's market a river market, is very on brand
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 12, 2021, 10:28:26 AM
wacky calling the OP farmer's market a river market, is very on brand

Definitely.  I haven't been to the OP farmer's market in quite awhile but last time I went there were "farmers" selling produce with del monte stickers on them that were clearly bought at price chopper and marked up for the rubes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 12, 2021, 12:53:38 PM
 :lol: We pay a little extra to avoid the bums banging on the streets
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 12, 2021, 12:59:42 PM
:lol: We pay a little extra to avoid the bums banging on the streets

My portfolio is pretty diverse, this is true.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2021, 12:28:03 PM
https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1437822228423450629

the replies
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 14, 2021, 01:34:30 PM
 :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 14, 2021, 01:45:58 PM
 :crossfingers: :kstategrad:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 14, 2021, 02:19:52 PM
the comments/replies to that tweet are sad, scary, and also other adjectives
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 16, 2021, 09:29:49 PM
All our suburban friends can finally enjoy some KC places they are too confused to park at when the new terminal arrives:

https://www.buildkci.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/9.16.21_KCI-VANTAGE-City-Council-Presentation.pdf

Brown and Loe, Stockyards Brewery, Taste of Brazil, Parisi, Poi'o, Buffalo State, rotating BBQ, Pigwich.

Oh and CFA and Dunkin!!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on September 16, 2021, 09:45:35 PM
ya i was really surprised with the decision, i’m not sure how long it will last though. 
there’s very little demand for expanded food options in our airport, but it’s not my money to lose although kinda it is but thursday’s whatever
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2021, 07:37:12 AM
Yeah the food options at kci rule for sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2021, 08:19:16 AM
I'll never go to any of those except dunkin, but I'm glad they will be available to others  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2021, 08:30:29 AM
All those food choices at a regional airport are bizzare to me. Nobody has layovers in KC. I guess targeting the dads that drag the family to the airport 3 hours early? At most you need a coffee shop, 12 bars, and 3 Hudson Books.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 17, 2021, 08:34:30 AM
All those food choices at a regional airport are bizzare to me. Nobody has layovers in KC. I guess targeting the dads that drag the family to the airport 3 hours early? At

Remember when I was scolded by these rubes for eating a salad on the plane
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2021, 08:39:50 AM
All those food choices at a regional airport are bizzare to me. Nobody has layovers in KC. I guess targeting the dads that drag the family to the airport 3 hours early? At most you need a coffee shop, 12 bars, and 3 Hudson Books.

Amazing quick pivot from "KCI has nothing" to "KCI has TOO MUCH"

11 Million passengers a year and if you have any chance of bringing in more flights like a SWA city of emphasis, got to have some amenities.  Southwest has already said they wanted to layover more customers at KCI but couldn't due to the absolute shitiness

edit - right number
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on September 17, 2021, 08:43:44 AM
All those food choices at a regional airport are bizzare to me. Nobody has layovers in KC. I guess targeting the dads that drag the family to the airport 3 hours early? At most you need a coffee shop, 12 bars, and 3 Hudson Books.

Yep, in 2 years max 90% of those places are going to be gadget stores and/or McDonalds.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Justwin on September 17, 2021, 09:40:03 AM
All our suburban friends can finally enjoy some KC places they are too confused to park at when the new terminal arrives:

https://www.buildkci.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/9.16.21_KCI-VANTAGE-City-Council-Presentation.pdf

Brown and Loe, Stockyards Brewery, Taste of Brazil, Parisi, Poi'o, Buffalo State, rotating BBQ, Pigwich.

Oh and CFA and Dunkin!!!

I'm really happy they're going to use useful technology.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2021, 09:59:31 AM
Looked through that proposal this morning, I very much like what they are going for with the look, city market at the center is pretty cool.

Also tay's Burger Shack!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2021, 10:43:14 AM
yeah i like it as well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on September 21, 2021, 02:08:43 PM
very torn on downtown baseball.

Love the idea of it, but coming from the burbs, where'm I gonna park?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on September 21, 2021, 02:42:51 PM
very torn on downtown baseball.

Love the idea of it, but coming from the burbs, where'm I gonna park?

There will be plenty of spots to park, but you will also gain places to eat and drink before and after as opposed to sitting in your car or driving right home. It will be great.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on September 21, 2021, 02:53:11 PM
Will we still be able to use saul’s grill?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2021, 03:05:52 PM
how much annually will the royals lose in parking revenue?  guessing offset will be some sort of incentives to build downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 21, 2021, 04:30:01 PM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on September 21, 2021, 05:02:09 PM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

 :bawl:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on September 21, 2021, 05:19:42 PM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

What did that area look like in 1960/70 when they built the interstates? I'm guessing pretty shitty
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2021, 05:19:50 PM
That seems fake! But probably not unique to KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on September 21, 2021, 05:23:48 PM
It's not unique. Similar photos of Louisville floating the web

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2021, 05:52:51 PM
very torn on downtown baseball.

Love the idea of it, but coming from the burbs, where'm I gonna park?

All the great spaces in the world have one thing in common - abundant parking.

I'll help future Cire out.
a) Parking in one of the 40k current garage spaces (not to mention new garages that will be built for a downtown park unnecessarily) many that will be located closer than the space you park in at TSC.
b) Park on the Plaza / NKC (maybe) and take the free streetcar in
c) Carpool and have the other guy worry about parking.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 21, 2021, 05:57:16 PM


kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

What did that area look like in 1960/70 when they built the interstates? I'm guessing pretty shitty



It was the 1950s. It was at the peak of downtown

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020/6/23/kansas-citys-blitz-how-freeway-building-blew-up-urban-wealth (https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020/6/23/kansas-citys-blitz-how-freeway-building-blew-up-urban-wealth)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on September 21, 2021, 06:15:00 PM


kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

What did that area look like in 1960/70 when they built the interstates? I'm guessing pretty shitty



It was the 1950s. It was at the peak of downtown

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020/6/23/kansas-citys-blitz-how-freeway-building-blew-up-urban-wealth (https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020/6/23/kansas-citys-blitz-how-freeway-building-blew-up-urban-wealth)

https://twitter.com/UnionStationKC/status/1429589210881830912

This popped up on my feed this morning. I remember thinking the skyline doesn't look all that different.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 21, 2021, 06:29:24 PM
2012 so missing a few buildings but nothing tall enough to really tell from this angle

(https://blog.ericbowersphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/downtown-kansas-city-from-liberty-memorial-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on September 21, 2021, 07:41:42 PM
very torn on downtown baseball.

Love the idea of it, but coming from the burbs, where'm I gonna park?

All the great spaces in the world have one thing in common - abundant parking.

I'll help future Cire out.
a) Parking in one of the 40k current garage spaces (not to mention new garages that will be built for a downtown park unnecessarily) many that will be located closer than the space you park in at TSC.
b) Park on the Plaza / NKC (maybe) and take the free streetcar in
c) Carpool and have the other guy worry about parking.
Father of 2 Cire think those all options would be a pain in the ass


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on September 21, 2021, 07:42:07 PM
Cire going with bros thinks it’s great


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on September 21, 2021, 07:42:25 PM
Thus the torn’ness


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2021, 07:53:11 PM
Wait are you serious cire?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on September 21, 2021, 07:54:08 PM
Yeah. Compared to the k, that sounds like a pita

I felt the same way about the airport too


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 21, 2021, 09:23:23 PM
Other than location, what’s wrong with the K?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on September 21, 2021, 10:33:54 PM
Downtown ballpark will be a PITA for people coming from the burbs compared to Kauffman, but for elites like me who work downtown it will be incredible
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2021, 05:27:55 AM
Is the Sprint Center a pita?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on September 22, 2021, 05:46:59 AM
Is the Sprint Center a pita?
That’s not a bad comparison.

I’m working off the assumption that baseball is attracting a lot more fans.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2021, 05:55:12 AM
It's actually a pretty good comp. T mobile capacity is 20k.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2021, 06:02:33 AM
I'd guess a downtown park in KC would have 30-35k capacity. And fountains!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 22, 2021, 06:04:48 AM
Downtown ballpark will be a PITA for people coming from the burbs compared to Kauffman, but for elites like me who work downtown it will be incredible

Yes.  I think the prospect of the weekday walk up crowd is great.  No parking needed because already parked.

if they build in the east village there will be garages built on the east side of 71/49 and people can walk across the bridges (which all recently were replaced)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on September 22, 2021, 06:45:51 AM
Is the Sprint Center a pita?

To be clear the default KC resident position is every potential change is a PITA for them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2021, 07:28:12 AM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008


i forgot to mention, this was *Main* Street
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2021, 07:38:09 AM
It's not unique. Similar photos of Louisville floating the web

it's definitely not unique, but there's only one bitb.

also i drove along Frankfort ave through crescent hill earlier this year. pretty adorable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2021, 11:32:45 AM
It's actually a pretty good comp. T mobile capacity is 20k.


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210922/a400406847188cff8f862d6a27016809.jpg)

STHs attend 20-82 games a year, no one is going to T-Mobile that many times a year. I'm pro downtown stadium for everywhere, unless it eliminates housing, but you will lose some convenience but gain much more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on September 22, 2021, 11:41:31 AM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

I don't understand why this is a bad thing.  No city looks like it did at the turn of the 20th century, nor should it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2021, 11:42:05 AM
It's actually a pretty good comp. T mobile capacity is 20k.

STHs attend 20-82 games a year, no one is going to T-Mobile that many times a year.

of course, i was just responding to whoever commented that there would be significantly more people going to each game than events at t-mobile.
on weekdays, royals attendance is garbage, and downtown would not even notice 10-15k people parking anywhere for a 7pm game.

it would be real fun to take off early and walk over for a 1pm businessman special though  :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on September 22, 2021, 11:45:21 AM
What are the details on this new airport roto bbq thing?  Will it be any good?

I fly into MCI 2-3 times a year but rarely spend any time in KC.  I’m always jonesing for BBQ and debating whether I have time for a quick stop somewhere before flying out.  Something decent in the airport would be perfect.

On that note, what’s the consensus on Slap’s BBQ?  Stopped by there on Sunday before leaving.  It hit the spot for me but maybe my BBQ hurdle is so low now that I don’t know what’s good any more.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2021, 11:48:05 AM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

I don't understand why this is a bad thing.  No city looks like it did at the turn of the 20th century, nor should it.

cities don't usually choose to Dresden their own downtowns to quite the extent kc has. you really don't understand why building a highway (or four in kc's case) directly through neighborhoods is bad for the neighborhoods?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2021, 11:48:35 AM
slap's is top 5 kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2021, 11:48:57 AM
What are the details on this new airport roto bbq thing?  Will it be any good?

I fly into MCI 2-3 times a year but rarely spend any time in KC.  I’m always jonesing for BBQ and debating whether I have time for a quick stop somewhere before flying out.  Something decent in the airport would be perfect.

On that note, what’s the consensus on Slap’s BBQ?  Stopped by there on Sunday before leaving.  It hit the spot for me but maybe my BBQ hurdle is so low now that I don’t know what’s good any more.

slaps rules, good job tdaver
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on September 22, 2021, 11:57:51 AM
Thanks for validating my tastebuds.  It’s an easy on/off highway stop, so definitely going back.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: _33 on September 22, 2021, 12:10:31 PM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

I don't understand why this is a bad thing.  No city looks like it did at the turn of the 20th century, nor should it.

cities don't usually choose to Dresden their own downtowns to quite the extent kc has. you really don't understand why building a highway (or four in kc's case) directly through neighborhoods is bad for the neighborhoods?

I mean, I guess?  Where would be a better place to put the highways?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on September 22, 2021, 12:16:40 PM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

I don't understand why this is a bad thing.  No city looks like it did at the turn of the 20th century, nor should it.

cities don't usually choose to Dresden their own downtowns to quite the extent kc has. you really don't understand why building a highway (or four in kc's case) directly through neighborhoods is bad for the neighborhoods?

I mean, I guess?  Where would be a better place to put the highways?

not directly through the densest part of the city.
from the article i linked:

Quote
The early vision for a national highway system was of freeways that would connect major metropolitan areas but terminate at ring roads around cities, rather than penetrating the downtown core. (The ring-road model is the norm in Europe to this day.) This debate occurred nationally, but in almost every city, the forces that wanted a downtown freeway—including influential real estate and business interests—won out. (Something that President Eisenhower, who signed the 1956 Highway Act, was reportedly surprised and dismayed by.)

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020/6/23/kansas-citys-blitz-how-freeway-building-blew-up-urban-wealth (https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020/6/23/kansas-citys-blitz-how-freeway-building-blew-up-urban-wealth)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2021, 11:26:01 AM
i had not been to renaissance fest since like 5th grade, my goodness it is enormous! what a thing that exists irl
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2021, 01:06:11 PM
i had not been to renaissance fest since like 5th grade, my goodness it is enormous! what a thing that exists irl

Not sure but probably the same for me. High school friends ruined it when they told me they used to piss in the turkey leg vat.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2021, 01:12:23 PM
they told me they used to piss in the turkey leg vat.

excuse me what
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2021, 01:16:12 PM
they told me they used to piss in the turkey leg vat.

excuse me what

Yeah. Never had a turkey leg at a fair or whatever since.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2021, 01:16:33 PM
I'm assuming they're liars
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 11, 2021, 01:21:43 PM
I'm assuming they're liars

I certainly hope so but no way I'm ever ordering one ever. I assume they aren't that great and a mess anyways.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2021, 02:05:40 PM
they looked p good but definitely not worth the wait
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: waks on October 11, 2021, 02:38:58 PM
they looked p good but definitely not worth the wait

I had one a couple of years ago at the KC Renfest. The wait was absurd. They're pretty sinewy and kind of taste like piss.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 11, 2021, 03:24:28 PM
they looked p good but definitely not worth the wait

I had one a couple of years ago at the KC Renfest. The wait was absurd. They're pretty sinewy and kind of taste like piss.  :dunno:

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 11, 2021, 04:12:33 PM
mocat what did you do there. Last time i went it was like 1993
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on October 11, 2021, 04:19:11 PM
I have a pretty hilarious KC ren fest story, but I can't tell it on here because there are people whose opinions about me I care about present.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 12, 2021, 09:45:41 AM
Electric park at Rieger?  More like Electric PAK am I right bros?

Seriously, great vibe with this weather.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on October 18, 2021, 04:34:28 PM
Hit up a couple of haunted houses for the first time ever on Saturday night.  Not bad.  If you go definitely spring for the VIP tickets, it will greatly reduce your time standing in line.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2021, 09:37:32 PM
In the West Bottoms?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2021, 05:40:00 PM
Mayor Q is on my flight, not even in the A boarding group. X-post kc is hurting thread?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on October 20, 2021, 06:05:22 PM
In the West Bottoms?

Yup in that area off of 12th.  Edge of Hell, The Beast and one other that I can't remember
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2021, 06:33:43 PM
Anybody run into any FIFA world cup selection committee people?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: nicname on October 20, 2021, 06:34:01 PM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

I don't understand why this is a bad thing.  No city looks like it did at the turn of the 20th century, nor should it.

cities don't usually choose to Dresden their own downtowns to quite the extent kc has. you really don't understand why building a highway (or four in kc's case) directly through neighborhoods is bad for the neighborhoods?

IMO interstate type highways around, and especially cutting through cities, will be looked back on as one of the great blights on American history.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 20, 2021, 06:58:02 PM
I think that's already been realized.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2021, 12:09:35 PM
lmao

https://marc2.org/htmlemail/transportation/KC_AerialLift.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Na_063FeRXEZOLLZDxI1L07xSYVoGCaVMkcqwhOzRzmM-tQ9CGCoMDJc (https://marc2.org/htmlemail/transportation/KC_AerialLift.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Na_063FeRXEZOLLZDxI1L07xSYVoGCaVMkcqwhOzRzmM-tQ9CGCoMDJc)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 25, 2021, 12:59:46 PM
kansas city is bitb in the history of the world at stepping on its own dick

https://twitter.com/orangutanagram/status/1440363695708672008?s=19

I don't understand why this is a bad thing.  No city looks like it did at the turn of the 20th century, nor should it.

cities don't usually choose to Dresden their own downtowns to quite the extent kc has. you really don't understand why building a highway (or four in kc's case) directly through neighborhoods is bad for the neighborhoods?

IMO interstate type highways around, and especially cutting through cities, will be looked back on as one of the great blights on American history.

Well, and given that it was often used to destroy minority sections of town, it really was/is a devastating things to the city.

I actually think more about actually how nice Manhattan is to not have the interstate running through it, but rather just being south of town. It has lead to some inconvenience but practically it has allowed Manhattan to stay intact.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2021, 08:34:59 AM
pretty cool
https://www.kcwoso.com/news/kansas-city-nwsl-and-port-kc-finalize-plans-for-first-nwsl-p
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on October 26, 2021, 08:39:21 AM
yeah very nice, fun location.  not sure how many games the joco soccer dads like myself will make it to, i've heard traffic is a shitshow downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2021, 08:40:31 AM
Pretty cool.  Should get the streetcar to stretch the riverfront expansion to the casino with this move I'd think.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2021, 09:20:54 AM
pretty cool
https://www.kcwoso.com/news/kansas-city-nwsl-and-port-kc-finalize-plans-for-first-nwsl-p

Oh my God! Unreal, this is great I've been worried about the future of women's professional soccer in KC, not worried anymore.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2021, 09:27:15 AM
Pretty cool.  Should get the streetcar to stretch the riverfront expansion to the casino with this move I'd think.

let's start with a pedestrian friendly way to walk from river market to the river front LMAO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2021, 09:30:42 AM
Pretty cool.  Should get the streetcar to stretch the riverfront expansion to the casino with this move I'd think.

let's start with a pedestrian friendly way to walk from river market to the river front LMAO

That's already part of the plan.  Agreed, it's annoying af right now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2021, 09:33:30 AM
How are they going to generate enough revenue to back such a structure? I don't even have a clue where they play now or when they play or if they're even any good. Hope they aren't stealing the Royals future space.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on October 26, 2021, 09:37:10 AM
How are they going to generate enough revenue to back such a structure? I don't even have a clue where they play now or when they play or if they're even any good. Hope they aren't stealing the Royals future space.

It's all private funding, so we don't really have to worry about that, thankfully.  I'm not a fan and likely won't go to games, but I am super glad that this is happening. I think everyone wins.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2021, 09:40:28 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2021, 09:41:03 AM
I like it when Mahomes picks up the tab.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 26, 2021, 09:41:45 AM
i’d like to say this is a proof of concept for the downtown stad but it really isn’t one, just our woman’s ownership group letting their nuts and labia hang.  this is a big deal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2021, 09:43:05 AM
I'm sure it will be a pretty popular venue for concerts and stuff too.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2021, 09:43:44 AM
I'm sure it will be a pretty popular venue for concerts and stuff too.
That's what I was thinking. WOULD!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on October 26, 2021, 09:44:02 AM
Yes, definitely huge impressive labia here.  Like Miller Park roof size labia. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on October 26, 2021, 09:46:04 AM
I'm sure it will be a pretty popular venue for concerts and stuff too.



I don't know how they could justify the price tag otherwise. still seems pretty steep!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 26, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
How are they going to generate enough revenue to back such a structure? I don't even have a clue where they play now or when they play or if they're even any good. Hope they aren't stealing the Royals future space.

It's all private funding, so we don't really have to worry about that, thankfully.  I'm not a fan and likely won't go to games, but I am super glad that this is happening. I think everyone wins.

I've been to several games the Legends, so this is def pretty cool, but yeah, going to make getting to some games tougher but hey, it looks so cool, and is great for the team. Will miss chillin on the couches though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on October 26, 2021, 12:03:30 PM
CAB is a horrendous place to watch a soccer game, went to a couple this year, they did well getting the hell out of there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 27, 2021, 03:37:52 PM
this guy left FOX 4 morning show abruptly, turns out it was because his christian conservative values were being squashed by the liberal media tv station

https://twitter.com/markalfordkc/status/1452345168011612166?s=20

figured it was something like this and yep, running for congress

https://alfordforcongress.com/

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on October 27, 2021, 03:58:38 PM
this guy left FOX 4 morning show abruptly, turns out it was because his christian conservative values were being squashed by the liberal media tv station

https://twitter.com/markalfordkc/status/1452345168011612166?s=20

figured it was something like this and yep, running for congress

https://alfordforcongress.com/

yep, this was very predictable. He'll win too, just like the crazy weather dude that ran and says he doesn't believe in climate change. Can't wait for Alford's first really batshit claim to rile up the dummies.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 27, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
that guy is so annoying
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 27, 2021, 04:27:07 PM
i’d like to say this is a proof of concept for the downtown stad but it really isn’t one, just our woman’s ownership group letting their nuts and labia hang.  this is a big deal.

I think this about the 3rd or 4th domino in a downtown baseball stadium.  It's inevitable now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 27, 2021, 04:28:03 PM
that guy is so annoying

he's incredibly annoying and it was v funny to watch how much he annoyed his co-anchors
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on October 27, 2021, 04:28:45 PM
i’d like to say this is a proof of concept for the downtown stad but it really isn’t one, just our woman’s ownership group letting their nuts and labia hang.  this is a big deal.

I think this about the 3rd or 4th domino in a downtown baseball stadium.  It's inevitable now.

it is but we have to pretend to do the due diligence
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2021, 11:20:54 AM
I like it when Mahomes picks up the tab.

I don't know what Brittany's ownership share is but knowing how much cash the Long's have, I'm guessing the share isn't much.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2021, 11:51:57 AM
I like it when Mahomes picks up the tab.

I don't know what Brittany's ownership share is but knowing how much cash the Long's have, I'm guessing the share isn't much.
I don't know her exact position with the club, but she's the one who announced it at the press conference.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on October 28, 2021, 11:58:17 AM
Heard from an insidery ownership group type person that the downtown royals stadium is already a done deal and the chiefs will build a new stadium where the k is....  :Chirp:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 28, 2021, 12:11:04 PM
Heard from an insidery ownership group type person that the downtown royals stadium is already a done deal and the chiefs will build a new stadium where the k is....  :Chirp:

You know Pat or Stonestreet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2021, 12:28:22 PM
I like it when Mahomes picks up the tab.

I don't know what Brittany's ownership share is but knowing how much cash the Long's have, I'm guessing the share isn't much.
I don't know her exact position with the club, but she's the one who announced it at the press conference.

She's a co-owner, I just don't think she has anywhere close to a majority stake.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2021, 08:47:55 AM
rip legend

https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article255435886.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article255435886.html)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 01, 2021, 08:51:45 AM
rip legend

https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article255435886.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/cityscape/article255435886.html)

Sad day.  I lost more layers of the roof of my mouth to that place than any other.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2021, 08:56:55 AM
What's it say? I'm not paying for the star.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 01, 2021, 08:57:47 AM
What's it say? I'm not paying for the star.

Joe's pizza by the slice behind Kellys is closing.  Owner is retiring.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2021, 08:58:50 AM
 :frown:

Better than what I thought tho. I thought someone died.  :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 01, 2021, 09:06:11 AM
we'll always have the "memory" of 23 yo blacked out 'blast dumping honey on a slice and eating with eyes closed on front of god and everyone
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2021, 09:11:22 AM
The end of an era, rip
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 01, 2021, 10:49:45 AM
meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2021, 02:54:38 AM
My fellow Amesians are gonna be pissed.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 02, 2021, 10:55:35 AM
https://twitter.com/judylthomas/status/1455245265384968202?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2021, 02:26:35 PM
KCMO masks are coming off Thursday!




pending council approval of ordinance
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 02, 2021, 03:20:02 PM
link?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2021, 03:29:16 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/masks-could-be-coming-off-this-week-for-adults-in-kansas-city-missouri
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on November 02, 2021, 03:31:54 PM
KCMO masks are coming off Thursday!




pending council approval of ordinance

The gym where I work said masks are now optional which I thought was interesting since we're still required to wear them in office buildings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 02, 2021, 03:32:49 PM
yeah nobody at my gym has worn a mask in months, feels like a don't ask don't tell policy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on November 02, 2021, 03:45:45 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/masks-could-be-coming-off-this-week-for-adults-in-kansas-city-missouri

I know its unrelated but lol at doing this right before flu season.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 02, 2021, 03:51:32 PM
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/masks-could-be-coming-off-this-week-for-adults-in-kansas-city-missouri

I know its unrelated but lol at doing this right before flu season.

We've never done anything for the flu though.

My gym has certain classes masks aren't needed based on spacing and others have to wear them all the time.  The wear all the time is the best time.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 02, 2021, 06:31:11 PM
https://sentinelksmo.org/shawnee-mission-school-district-thinks-thanksgiving-christmas-are-racist/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2021, 09:49:27 AM

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/masks-could-be-coming-off-this-week-for-adults-in-kansas-city-missouri

I know its unrelated but lol at doing this right before flu season.

We've never done anything for the flu though.

My gym has certain classes masks aren't needed based on spacing and others have to wear them all the time.  The wear all the time is the best time.

people still think spacing in an indoor workout will help with covid? that's wild
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 03, 2021, 09:52:37 AM
it is.  people choose to believe what they want to believe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 03, 2021, 10:59:23 AM

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/masks-could-be-coming-off-this-week-for-adults-in-kansas-city-missouri

I know its unrelated but lol at doing this right before flu season.

We've never done anything for the flu though.

My gym has certain classes masks aren't needed based on spacing and others have to wear them all the time.  The wear all the time is the best time.

people still think spacing in an indoor workout will help with covid? that's wild

The city ordinance says it is. I don't go to it because I think it's safer, I don't want to wear a mask working out. Seems spacing is a pretty common "out" in a lot of city masking rules isn't it?

No matter, it is coming off for everybody but kids on Friday. Just passed committee.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 16, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/1460817856455757828?t=tCUWtJAi4Cll48XcFASV5w&s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 17, 2021, 07:45:21 AM
11k feet. Nice big lounge. Still space for another
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on November 17, 2021, 03:51:04 PM
kyle’s tweet is from 2019
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 17, 2021, 03:59:58 PM
kyle’s tweet is from 2019

yeah that is acknowledged in the thread
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 17, 2021, 05:24:51 PM
Sherlocks, Justin is the main kci dude for this stuff. A deal is being approved this week in council for 11k sf on the upper level of node B

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2021/11/15/delta-sky-lounge-kci-terminal-airport-lease.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2021, 04:48:15 PM
deuces, rick  :adios:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2021, 09:15:21 AM
the riot room had already permanently closed but a fire truck wanted to make sure  :sdeek:



Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on December 20, 2021, 08:19:35 AM
Cerner is reportedly being acquired by Oracle

https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article256686352.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on December 21, 2021, 07:12:19 AM
Car got broken into at ward parkway lanes lastnight - smashed in one of the windows and took some stuff.

For those keeping track, since moving to KCMO in mid-summer 2017:

3 window smashing car break-ins
2 hit and runs.

Pretty remarkable. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 21, 2021, 07:18:39 AM
Car got broken into at ward parkway lanes lastnight - smashed in one of the windows and took some stuff.

For those keeping track, since moving to KCMO in mid-summer 2017:

3 window smashing car break-ins
2 hit and runs.

Pretty remarkable.

It's time to come home.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 07:25:49 AM
Car got broken into at ward parkway lanes lastnight - smashed in one of the windows and took some stuff.

For those keeping track, since moving to KCMO in mid-summer 2017:

3 window smashing car break-ins
2 hit and runs.

Pretty remarkable.

That really sucks. I am sure you know this but for everyone: don't leave stuff in a car that remotely looks like something someone wants in any urban area.

Doesn't really help with the hit and runs though
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2021, 08:08:31 AM
Come home, dlew. I feel so much safer after coming home. .sleepycatgif

Also, sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2021, 08:31:19 AM
T's&p's DQ, that's some high quality bad luck
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 08:49:32 AM
Car got broken into at ward parkway lanes lastnight - smashed in one of the windows and took some stuff.

For those keeping track, since moving to KCMO in mid-summer 2017:

3 window smashing car break-ins
2 hit and runs.

Pretty remarkable.

that's crazy suck.  Lived in KCMO (plaza and downtown) since 2002ish parking a car on the street and public garage up until this year.  0 break ins, 0 hit and run.  2 drunk people knocking on my door though.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2021, 08:52:53 AM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 08:54:05 AM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!


i'm guessing this is a joke but what amenities does it lack???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2021, 08:55:23 AM
In-n-out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 08:59:00 AM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!


i'm guessing this is a joke but what amenities does it lack???

I think we check all the boxes but some could be improved.  Our biggest missing piece IMO is a nice comprehensive recreational greenway in the urban core. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 09:00:37 AM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!


i'm guessing this is a joke but what amenities does it lack???

I think we check all the boxes but some could be improved.  Our biggest missing piece IMO is a nice comprehensive recreational greenway in the urban core. 

Penn Valley Park?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2021, 09:01:57 AM
What is Penn Valley Park then?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2021, 09:10:06 AM
Not a lot of safe social distancing going on our there in KCMO these days.

https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1470790476940857346?s=20

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2021, 09:19:49 AM
87 unknown predominate contributing factors? That seems like the most basic thing to understand if you're investigating, wow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 09:23:38 AM
87 unknown predominate contributing factors? That seems like the most basic thing to understand if you're investigating, wow.

52 where they don't know what kind of firearm was used????
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 09:29:13 AM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!


i'm guessing this is a joke but what amenities does it lack???

I think we check all the boxes but some could be improved.  Our biggest missing piece IMO is a nice comprehensive recreational greenway in the urban core. 

Penn Valley Park?

it definitely could be part of what I'm thinking of but it's not programmed at all to be a urban recreational bike/walk greenway/trail.  I'm thinking of at least 10 miles worth of car free interactions.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 09:39:43 AM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!


i'm guessing this is a joke but what amenities does it lack???

I think we check all the boxes but some could be improved.  Our biggest missing piece IMO is a nice comprehensive recreational greenway in the urban core. 

Penn Valley Park?

it definitely could be part of what I'm thinking of but it's not programmed at all to be a urban recreational bike/walk greenway/trail.  I'm thinking of at least 10 miles worth of car free interactions.

lol where on earth do you see that other than doing laps in big urban parks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 09:50:49 AM
Using the riverfront levee system as well as frontage to RR tracks in the crossroads.   I've seen a plan for it but can't locate it now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 09:52:16 AM
Using the riverfront levee system as well as frontage to RR tracks in the crossroads.   I've seen a plan for it but can't locate it now.


yes but what's an example of this in a "big boy city"?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 10:01:35 AM
Using the riverfront levee system as well as frontage to RR tracks in the crossroads.   I've seen a plan for it but can't locate it now.


yes but what's an example of this in a "big boy city"?

Highline but that's less of a recreation trail so maybe the west side highway bike trail?  Minneapolis greenway but just looked it up it's only 5 miles so maybe my 10 miles was too optomlist. Charlotte had one going SW out of downtown I seem to remember
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2021, 10:12:13 AM
Central Park seems like the only example of this, except it’s only about 3 miles.

Chicago Lakefront Trail is close, but there are a handful of locations where cars cross to access parking lots.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2021, 10:52:38 AM
What is Penn Valley Park then?

there is a 45mph road directly through the middle of it, a 60mph road on one side of it, and an actual highway exit on the north side of it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2021, 10:56:07 AM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!


i'm guessing this is a joke but what amenities does it lack???

i'm just frustrated at the moment. some new protected bike lanes have been installed on Gillham, from the plaza all the way to 19th st in the crossroads. there are 30 miles of bike lanes on the schedule for 2022. apparently enough people complained about the new ones that the city council is having to vote whether to keep them or have them removed.
it's just one example but it seems like there is so much opposition to any new improvements to the city. unless it is tearing down a building to build a parking lot. kcmo is bitb at that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2021, 11:10:32 AM
no doubt other cities have similar problems with their school district (not sure any city has it worse though), but the public transportation in kcmo is just laughable. no way to fix it either because of all the annexing in the 1950's-70s. i mean Omaha, NE has almost the same population as KCMO (486k vs 508k), yet less than half of the land area (141 sq mi vs 315 sq mi). such a dumb way to make sure you're always stretched too thin, and having to spend more money on infrastructure/police, etc per resident than almost any other city.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on December 21, 2021, 11:55:52 AM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!


i'm guessing this is a joke but what amenities does it lack???

I think we check all the boxes but some could be improved.  Our biggest missing piece IMO is a nice comprehensive recreational greenway in the urban core. 

Penn Valley Park?

it definitely could be part of what I'm thinking of but it's not programmed at all to be a urban recreational bike/walk greenway/trail.  I'm thinking of at least 10 miles worth of car free interactions.

lol where on earth do you see that other than doing laps in big urban parks

Austin, for starters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2021, 12:21:55 PM
Not a lot of safe social distancing going on our there in KCMO these days.

https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1470790476940857346?s=20

Black men, taking out our own, sucks. Not that we already didn't know this but white people are a billion more times likely to be taken out by a white person they know, but are still very afraid of the black bogeyman.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2021, 01:35:50 PM
Not a lot of safe social distancing going on our there in KCMO these days.

https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1470790476940857346?s=20

Black men, taking out our own, sucks. Not that we already didn't know this but white people are a billion more times likely to be taken out by a white person they know, but are still very afraid of the black bogeyman.
I don’t think that chart indicates anything about what race is the suspect in crimes against a specific race. It’s just a total number of victims by race and suspects by race.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2021, 01:50:24 PM
Not a lot of safe social distancing going on our there in KCMO these days.

https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1470790476940857346?s=20

Black men, taking out our own, sucks. Not that we already didn't know this but white people are a billion more times likely to be taken out by a white person they know, but are still very afraid of the black bogeyman.
I don’t think that chart indicates anything about what race is the suspect in crimes against a specific race. It’s just a total number of victims by race and suspects by race.

Nationwide 80-85% of people murdered are murdered by someone of their own race and that's reflected in the number victims and suspects on that chart.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2021, 01:53:02 PM
The nationwide statistic is no doubt true, and it likely holds true here, however this chart doesn’t show that. There is nothing in this chart that would preclude 14 of the black female victims from being killed by the 14 white male suspects
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on December 21, 2021, 03:32:23 PM
kcmo has all of the crime of a big boy city but none of the amenities. still cheap though!


i'm guessing this is a joke but what amenities does it lack???

I think we check all the boxes but some could be improved.  Our biggest missing piece IMO is a nice comprehensive recreational greenway in the urban core. 

Penn Valley Park?

it definitely could be part of what I'm thinking of but it's not programmed at all to be a urban recreational bike/walk greenway/trail.  I'm thinking of at least 10 miles worth of car free interactions.

lol where on earth do you see that other than doing laps in big urban parks

Austin, for starters.

and SLC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on December 21, 2021, 03:39:44 PM
Dallas also has the Katy Trail. Rusty, I think you'd be blown away by the Greenbelt in Austin. I know I was and still am. Hiking, rock climbing, swimming, biking, walking. It's got it all, folks.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on December 21, 2021, 03:48:39 PM
Katy is very nice, but only 3.5 miles and has a couple road crossings.  Icehouse is great tho.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 03:54:45 PM
hear me out

slc and austin aren't big boy cities
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2021, 04:04:15 PM
Austin is the 10th most populated city in the country, it's good be a big boy. However, it's a new urban area that  sits in the middle of nowhere. When it comes to greenbelts I think it's a different game for relatively new urban areas like Austin and SLC than it is for much older cities.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2021, 04:06:43 PM
It's amazing how many more applicants I get for Austin vs places like Dallas- Fort Worth, Atlanta, New York, etc. It's the new place everyone wants to be these days.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on December 21, 2021, 04:06:50 PM
hear me out

slc and austin aren't big boy cities

If Austin is not a "big boy city," then neither is KC. I believe Austin is like the 10th or 11th largest city in the country now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on December 21, 2021, 04:08:47 PM
It's amazing how many more applicants I get for Austin vs places like Dallas- Fort Worth, Atlanta, New York, etc. It's the new place everyone wants to be these days.

It's a great place to live, so long as you make good money. I'll probably try to venture back some day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on December 21, 2021, 04:11:29 PM
hear me out

slc and austin aren't big boy cities

If Austin is not a "big boy city," then neither is KC. I believe Austin is like the 10th or 11th largest city in the country now.

Yeah IMO it's pretty difficult not to consider Austin a big boy city.  SLC on the other hand is way more small timey than I thought.  Their population is basically identical to Overland Park. lol
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 04:12:08 PM
I had no idea Austin was the 10th (or 11th) largest city. And Fort Worth is 13!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 04:13:33 PM
austin, ft. worth, jacksonville: big boy cities
SF, Boston, AtL, Miami: meh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on December 21, 2021, 04:14:37 PM
Agreed that SLC is definitely not big boy city, but by this metric it is a much bigger boy than KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2021, 04:15:26 PM
kc is not a big boy city but it's not about population. imo it's more about population density than population.

as of the 2020 census, there are 326 cities in the US with a population of at least 100k.  all but 15 of them (!) have greater population density than kansas city, mo.

incredble:

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From 1940 to 1960, the city more than doubled its physical size, while increasing its population by only about 75,000. By 1970, the city covered approximately 316 square miles (820 km2), more than five times its size in 1940.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on December 21, 2021, 04:22:55 PM
austin, ft. worth, jacksonville: big boy cities
SF, Boston, AtL, Miami: meh

Agreed that SF sucks, but you're being arbitrary here. I guess you'll need to define what counts as a "big boy" city. If we're not going to use any objective data, then I don't know. Miami is pretty small, and Boston (though historically relevant) isn't far behind. Btw, Jacksonville is basically the Kansas City of Florida.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 04:24:04 PM
I don't need to do anything, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on December 21, 2021, 04:24:46 PM
hear me out

slc and austin aren't big boy cities

If Austin is not a "big boy city," then neither is KC. I believe Austin is like the 10th or 11th largest city in the country now.

SLC on the other hand is way more small timey than I thought.  Their population is basically identical to Overland Park. lol

CSA populations are essentially the same.  SLC proper just has a very small footprint.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2021, 04:24:54 PM
austin, ft. worth, jacksonville: big boy cities
SF, Boston, AtL, Miami: meh

you have to include all municipalities in a metro area if you want to compare total population sizes. for example it was infurating to me during the coverage of the royals WS parade when i heard someone say "there were over a million people there, which is crazy because only 400,000 people live in kc?!?!?" like the people that live by the airport are relevant here but the people who live in downtown kck are not?

the only time you should compare actual city proper population is if you're trying to compare tax bases or density or something where a person living in the city proper matters, vs living in a "suburb".

almost 5 million people live in the "San Francisco" area, which does not include San Jose, by the way.
salt lake city hosted the god damn olympics.
austin is the capital of god damn Texas. and despite Austin not being a hub of a single US airline, you can fly nonstop to almost anywhere in the US, not to mention frankfurt or heathrow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on December 21, 2021, 04:31:39 PM
I don't need to do anything, thanks. :)

What you need to do is move your rough ridin' car, because it's Tuesday. And don't get snippy with me, mr. big city boy.

@mocat, while I understand your point, when it comes to accessing to certain amenities, I guess I just don't really think it's worth considering people in far-flung suburbs when it comes to amenities like parks and greenspaces in the heart of the anchor city, but maybe I'm just lazy. And I could be wrong about that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on December 21, 2021, 04:34:03 PM
hear me out

slc and austin aren't big boy cities

If Austin is not a "big boy city," then neither is KC. I believe Austin is like the 10th or 11th largest city in the country now.

SLC on the other hand is way more small timey than I thought.  Their population is basically identical to Overland Park. lol

CSA populations are essentially the same.  SLC proper just has a very small footprint.

I was surprised when I looked up SLC's population a minute ago. I figured they'd be like in the 3-400k range.  I'm sure hosting an Olympics is what made me think they'd be more substantial, stuff like that definitely adds to your big boy city clout.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2021, 04:36:30 PM
SLC and Denver are also probably "bigger" than their actual population because they're so isolated and get pretty much every "big boy city" thing because there's nothing else in like an eight hour radius
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2021, 05:33:37 PM
If you don’t have usable mass transit you aren’t a big boy city, you’re a highly populated suburb. Sorry, streetcars need not apply.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 06:09:49 PM
Using "city" populations is a dumb way to compare cities.

KC has a pretty good transit system for its size and budget.  We don't have much commuting transit but that's because nobody would use it because we have no traffic.  You can easily live in the core and not own a car (as long as you can get a job also in the core)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on December 21, 2021, 08:06:51 PM
Anyone that opts to not have a car (like if it's' not prohibitively expensive) in KC is a psychopath.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2021, 08:08:23 PM
If you don’t have usable mass transit you aren’t a big boy city, you’re a highly populated suburb. Sorry, streetcars need not apply.

there are a lot of metrics to look at, but this is a big one to me
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 08:34:20 PM
Anyone that opts to not have a car (like if it's' not prohibitively expensive) in KC is a psychopath.

I have one but I despise driving
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on December 21, 2021, 08:39:14 PM
Anyone that opts to not have a car (like if it's' not prohibitively expensive) in KC is a psychopath.

yeah, what on earth.

A) it's easy as crap to drive around KC. It's not busy anywhere. parking is also readily available everywhere. it's not compact.
B) you can't get to anything via foot or public trans. Nothing is in the middle or any other area you want to be. KC is wide, not tall.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 09:07:35 PM
B is not accurate.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on December 21, 2021, 09:11:55 PM
B is not accurate.

subjective for sure
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2021, 09:17:28 PM
B) you can't get to anything via foot or public trans. Nothing is in the middle or any other area you want to be. KC is wide, not tall.
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KC is tall, not wide is what i think you meant to say?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 09:28:26 PM
I can go weeks without driving that's not working at home or delivery of anything.

Definitely would be annoyed not having a car needing to go to royals and cats games. Only 11% of household don't have a car here so not common.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on December 21, 2021, 09:31:03 PM
I can go weeks without driving that's not working at home or delivery of anything.

Definitely would be annoyed not having a car needing to go to royals and cats games. Only 11% of household don't have a car here so not common.

yeah, I'm sure it's fine for you
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on December 21, 2021, 09:32:31 PM
KC is tall, not wide is what i think you meant to say?

no, there is no concentration of anything in kc. there is no vertical city. everything is spread out. wide. not tall.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2021, 09:38:20 PM
I can go weeks without driving that's not working at home or delivery of anything.

Definitely would be annoyed not having a car needing to go to royals and cats games. Only 11% of household don't have a car here so not common.

yeah, I'm sure it's fine for you

I just know people who do it successfully full time and not homeless bums. I couldn't do it all the time, to inpatient. I just hate driving.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2021, 10:21:30 PM
I can go weeks without driving that's not working at home or delivery of anything.

Definitely would be annoyed not having a car needing to go to royals and cats games. Only 11% of household don't have a car here so not common.

yeah, I'm sure it's fine for you

I just know people who do it successfully full time and not homeless bums. I couldn't do it all the time, to inpatient. I just hate driving.
Seems like it would be hard because 98% of the people you know in the KC area don’t live within a couple miles
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 22, 2021, 07:16:28 AM
It's amazing how many more applicants I get for Austin vs places like Dallas- Fort Worth, Atlanta, New York, etc. It's the new place everyone wants to be these days.

In our relative lifetimes the popularity of Austin is not new.  It was popular when I was graduating when is longer ago than I would like to admit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 22, 2021, 08:20:15 AM
KC is tall, not wide is what i think you meant to say?

no, there is no concentration of anything in kc. there is no vertical city. everything is spread out. wide. not tall.

i guess you mean like a histogram. yes everything is spread out and built for cars. as i mentioned earlier it is in the top 5% least dense US cities >100k

on a map, kcmo is very tall and not wide

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2021, 08:23:50 AM
It's amazing how many more applicants I get for Austin vs places like Dallas- Fort Worth, Atlanta, New York, etc. It's the new place everyone wants to be these days.

In our relative lifetimes the popularity of Austin is not new.  It was popular when I was graduating when is longer ago than I would like to admit.
True, but I thought it was fairly relevant with the new tech bubble and the people running away from California since the start of the pandemic (I wouldn't. I love that freaking state). At least that's what I hear on a crap ton of calls.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on December 22, 2021, 12:22:16 PM
It's amazing how many more applicants I get for Austin vs places like Dallas- Fort Worth, Atlanta, New York, etc. It's the new place everyone wants to be these days.

In our relative lifetimes the popularity of Austin is not new.  It was popular when I was graduating when is longer ago than I would like to admit.
True, but I thought it was fairly relevant with the new tech bubble and the people running away from California since the start of the pandemic (I wouldn't. I love that freaking state). At least that's what I hear on a crap ton of calls.

It's been booming since the early 80's, bro. Now, perhaps what you say about dentists in particular is true, but Austin's growth has nothing to do with the pandemic.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate4life on December 22, 2021, 12:23:19 PM
Austin, Massachusetts?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on December 22, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
I can go weeks without driving that's not working at home or delivery of anything.

Definitely would be annoyed not having a car needing to go to royals and cats games. Only 11% of household don't have a car here so not common.

yeah, I'm sure it's fine for you

I just know people who do it successfully full time and not homeless bums. I couldn't do it all the time, to inpatient. I just hate driving.
These are the people who go apeshit on twitter about KC not having enough bike lanes to fit their voluntarily exotic lifestyle.

My wife's car is in the shop right now (see "DQ's Wife's Car Gets Broken Into" post from last page), and even just sharing a car in this city for a childless couple is a PITA.

We're a car city, baby. Nothing to be ashamed of IMO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on December 22, 2021, 02:26:03 PM
jfc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on December 22, 2021, 03:08:29 PM
I can go weeks without driving that's not working at home or delivery of anything.

Definitely would be annoyed not having a car needing to go to royals and cats games. Only 11% of household don't have a car here so not common.

yeah, I'm sure it's fine for you

I just know people who do it successfully full time and not homeless bums. I couldn't do it all the time, to inpatient. I just hate driving.
These are the people who go apeshit on twitter about KC not having enough bike lanes to fit their voluntarily exotic lifestyle.

My wife's car is in the shop right now (see "DQ's Wife's Car Gets Broken Into" post from last page), and even just sharing a car in this city for a childless couple is a PITA.

We're a car city, baby. Nothing to be ashamed of IMO.
You know what else is a car city? LA, the Dallas of the west!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on December 22, 2021, 03:37:09 PM
KC is tall, not wide is what i think you meant to say?

no, there is no concentration of anything in kc. there is no vertical city. everything is spread out. wide. not tall.

These two cities have roughly the same Metro population:

(https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/hDG8DZPuugqaH7Kk8eI3JudDXnE=/2768x1557/smart/filters:no_upscale()/vancouver-skyline-with-mountains-462593783-59e94712c4124400112e28aa.jpg)

(https://e1.nmcdn.io/brownjames/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/KC-skyline-scaled.jpg/v:1-width:1200-height:1257-fit:cover/KC-skyline-scaled.jpg?signature=96ecbe8d)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 22, 2021, 03:58:36 PM
Vancouver is so dope
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on December 22, 2021, 04:36:36 PM
KC is tall, not wide is what i think you meant to say?

no, there is no concentration of anything in kc. there is no vertical city. everything is spread out. wide. not tall.

These two cities have roughly the same Metro population:

(https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/hDG8DZPuugqaH7Kk8eI3JudDXnE=/2768x1557/smart/filters:no_upscale()/vancouver-skyline-with-mountains-462593783-59e94712c4124400112e28aa.jpg)

(https://e1.nmcdn.io/brownjames/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/KC-skyline-scaled.jpg/v:1-width:1200-height:1257-fit:cover/KC-skyline-scaled.jpg?signature=96ecbe8d)

People work in those tall buildings, they don't live in them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on December 22, 2021, 04:52:27 PM
I wish kc was laid out the way Portland is. Imagine walking from downtown, to plaza, to bottoms, River market and crossroads etc.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 22, 2021, 05:34:46 PM
I wish kc was laid out the way Portland is. Imagine walking from downtown, to plaza, to bottoms, River market and crossroads etc.


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During the pandemic I did all of these walks.  The elevations changes and overall hostility to pedestrians traversing from neighborhood to neighborhood is real.  I ended up walking River Market to south plaza at least 8 times along different N/S routes.  Not one was without some scary crossings.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on December 22, 2021, 07:13:43 PM
phil, you're really wanting kc to be something it isn't and it'll never be. and I support you in that desire. have you considered moving to a city that is what you wish kc was?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 22, 2021, 07:44:35 PM
KC can get better in the ways Phil would like it to and not get all the way but still be great and still worth trying
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on December 22, 2021, 08:11:20 PM
KC can get better in the ways Phil would like it to and not get all the way but still be great and still worth trying

I'll do you one better, KC is ALREADY GREAT in it's own way.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on December 22, 2021, 08:38:30 PM


KC can get better in the ways Phil would like it to and not get all the way but still be great and still worth trying

I'll do you one better, KC is ALREADY GREAT in it's own way.

STILL BE GREAT

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2021, 08:59:06 AM
phil, you're really wanting kc to be something it isn't and it'll never be. and I support you in that desire. have you considered moving to a city that is what you wish kc was?

Something it was and can be again.  WILL BE again!

It's too easy to just move to a city with everything I want, why not make the city I love even better? 

“A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.”
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2021, 09:00:23 AM
KC can get better in the ways Phil would like it to and not get all the way but still be great and still worth trying

I'll do you one better, KC is ALREADY GREAT in it's own way.

and I agree with this. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on December 23, 2021, 10:49:47 AM
KC can get better in the ways Phil would like it to and not get all the way but still be great and still worth trying

I'll do you one better, KC is ALREADY GREAT in it's own way.

and I agree with this.

If my household income was about $100K more than it currently is, there are a number of places that I'd rather live than KC.  However, that is not going to happen, so I accept that I live in one of the best places in the US for me and preferences in life, given my current household income.  THAT is a pretty darn good situation to be in, if you ask me!  go cats
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2021, 11:13:09 AM
The good thing is we have the space and the "bones" to add back in an urban living environment that we once had and it doesn't disrupt what others already like about the city

As was mentioned earlier about bike lanes.  We have so many roads overbuilt we could put bike lanes everywhere and traffic wouldn't be impacted at all.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 23, 2021, 11:18:31 AM
So next time you are in KC anywhere in the city, look for these poles.  They are still remaining from the old streetcar network.  It's crazy how widespread it was

https://goo.gl/maps/xDJ3YPU1fSfpQuuY7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on December 23, 2021, 11:41:02 AM
KC is tall, not wide is what i think you meant to say?

no, there is no concentration of anything in kc. there is no vertical city. everything is spread out. wide. not tall.

These two cities have roughly the same Metro population:

(https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/hDG8DZPuugqaH7Kk8eI3JudDXnE=/2768x1557/smart/filters:no_upscale()/vancouver-skyline-with-mountains-462593783-59e94712c4124400112e28aa.jpg)

(https://e1.nmcdn.io/brownjames/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/KC-skyline-scaled.jpg/v:1-width:1200-height:1257-fit:cover/KC-skyline-scaled.jpg?signature=96ecbe8d)

People work in those tall buildings, they don't live in them.


I live in one of them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2022, 11:31:47 AM
My wife and I may be moving to KC in the summer - I need pro-tips on places to avoid/ideal locations.  We both work remote and have no kids so commutes/schools don't have much impact on us.  Help me out KC experts!!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2022, 12:01:20 PM
if i had that arrangement i would live in a loft or one of the many newly built/renovated condos downtown. i recently visited a friend in Two Light and that place is bonkers. the amenities are really something.
i'm sure even a place in kc with "crazy" high rent would be less than what you're used to. welcome to kc!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2022, 12:08:20 PM
buy or rent?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2022, 12:10:16 PM
My wife and I may be moving to KC in the summer - I need pro-tips on places to avoid/ideal locations.  We both work remote and have no kids so commutes/schools don't have much impact on us.  Help me out KC experts!!

What would have you moving to kc or kc adjace then?  Whatever that is would probably dictate your specific location.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2022, 12:20:44 PM
My wife and I may be moving to KC in the summer - I need pro-tips on places to avoid/ideal locations.  We both work remote and have no kids so commutes/schools don't have much impact on us.  Help me out KC experts!!

What do you like to do?  Need a yard?  Be my neighbor!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 21, 2022, 12:43:07 PM
My wife and I may be moving to KC in the summer - I need pro-tips on places to avoid/ideal locations.  We both work remote and have no kids so commutes/schools don't have much impact on us.  Help me out KC experts!!
Brookside/Waldo imo.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2022, 12:58:59 PM
Buying a place - Not opposed to the burbs but ideally would be close enough to uber to concert venues somewhat regularly.  Would like a yard.  I've looked at some of those downtown condos but really would like outdoor space.  Also, I hate the idea of an HOA in the hundreds of dollars a month.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 21, 2022, 01:01:01 PM
Or if you have the scratch, buy one of those awesome old (kinda run down) mansions over in hyde park.  So many crazy huge old homes in that area.  E.g.:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3526-Walnut-St-Kansas-City-MO-64111/122174080_zpid/ (https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3526-Walnut-St-Kansas-City-MO-64111/122174080_zpid/) 

That beast sold for 600 in 2020.

Ghosts 100% live here:
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/b1ca7a7babedf8caf877bbf5f3ae38e3-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/6532bab32c30f5e31e7b42c08b95c9fb-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)\

That is my dream
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on January 21, 2022, 01:04:56 PM
Buying a place - Not opposed to the burbs but ideally would be close enough to uber to concert venues somewhat regularly.  Would like a yard.  I've looked at some of those downtown condos but really would like outdoor space.  Also, I hate the idea of an HOA in the hundreds of dollars a month.

To Trim's point why are you moving? Is it to have more nightlife options? Be closer to certain people? Just do something new?

I'd personally take DQ's recommendation and look at all the neighborhoods north of brookside to downtown as well. But if you want something newer can an uber from downtown to Overland Park be that expensive???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2022, 01:05:44 PM
Buying a place - Not opposed to the burbs but ideally would be close enough to uber to concert venues somewhat regularly.  Would like a yard.  I've looked at some of those downtown condos but really would like outdoor space.  Also, I hate the idea of an HOA in the hundreds of dollars a month.

checkout westside downtown neighborhood.  Post some places you have found and we'll give you the up down thumbs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 21, 2022, 01:07:29 PM
Buying a place - Not opposed to the burbs but ideally would be close enough to uber to concert venues somewhat regularly.  Would like a yard.  I've looked at some of those downtown condos but really would like outdoor space.  Also, I hate the idea of an HOA in the hundreds of dollars a month.
see my prior post.  fairly reasonably price.  good walkability.  close proximity to plaza.  downtown isn't terribly far. 

schools are crap on the mo side but young studs like us don't really have to worry about that.

a lot (all) of it will depend on your budget and what you're looking for of course, but as someone in their early 30s who is expecting to move again sometime in the next 8-10 years, i think the area makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2022, 01:16:47 PM
free streetcar will stretch to about 50th street if you are looking for a place with good transit and not having to drive I would stick in there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2022, 01:18:49 PM
Or if you have the scratch, buy one of those awesome old (kinda run down) mansions over in hyde park.  So many crazy huge old homes in that area.  E.g.:

kinda run down?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2022, 01:27:15 PM
If you hate crime, live on the Kansas side.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 21, 2022, 01:32:08 PM
If you hate crime, live on the Kansas side.

 :whistle1:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 21, 2022, 01:32:18 PM
Or if you have the scratch, buy one of those awesome old (kinda run down) mansions over in hyde park.  So many crazy huge old homes in that area.  E.g.:

kinda run down?
Any 114 year old 5600 sq ft house selling for 600k is going to have some issues.  Most of those old beauties need some TLC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2022, 01:38:10 PM
get on the bleeding edge and snag one on Indy Ave.  Hyde Park is pretty snatched up by now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 21, 2022, 01:41:50 PM
get on the bleeding edge and snag one on Indy Ave.  Hyde Park is pretty snatched up by now.
Yep -- I was looking at some of those up there recently too.  Really cool.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/414-Gladstone-Blvd-Kansas-City-MO-64124/2286391_zpid/
 (https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/414-Gladstone-Blvd-Kansas-City-MO-64124/2286391_zpid/)
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/ace2013d5ac293b240711dc8239a2302-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/a4690af2b5c2915b0907c75f8aa3d840-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)
Very stately.

My house isn't a big old mansion like some of those, but it definitely is old.  I think it's 100th birthday is in the next year or two.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2022, 01:54:50 PM
That place is definitely haunted
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2022, 02:01:54 PM
for sure.  no way I'd live in those places.  :ohno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on January 21, 2022, 02:02:43 PM
My house isn't a big old mansion like some of those, but it definitely is old.  I think it's 100th birthday is in the next year or two.

My old girl turns 102 this year.  :blush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2022, 02:58:30 PM
my house is 122 years old  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2022, 03:00:16 PM
Or if you have the scratch, buy one of those awesome old (kinda run down) mansions over in hyde park.  So many crazy huge old homes in that area.  E.g.:

kinda run down?
Any 114 year old 5600 sq ft house selling for 600k is going to have some issues.  Most of those old beauties need some TLC.

i guess we have different definitions of run down
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on January 21, 2022, 03:00:38 PM
hey guys.... ghosts aren't real.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on January 21, 2022, 03:01:26 PM
My home was originally built in 1781.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2022, 03:03:34 PM
I'll have to check with the wife for her opinion on ghosts.  I ain't afraid of no ghosts.

Buying a place - Not opposed to the burbs but ideally would be close enough to uber to concert venues somewhat regularly.  Would like a yard.  I've looked at some of those downtown condos but really would like outdoor space.  Also, I hate the idea of an HOA in the hundreds of dollars a month.

To Trim's point why are you moving? Is it to have more nightlife options? Be closer to certain people? Just do something new?

I'd personally take DQ's recommendation and look at all the neighborhoods north of brookside to downtown as well. But if you want something newer can an uber from downtown to Overland Park be that expensive???

We're moving, in part, to be closer to my wife's family in MO and KC is about as far east as I would go for that.  Concerts/shows are a definite plus and we have friends there that can help us keep a social life while working from home, which is a concern of mine.  I'm not all that concerned about living super close to our friends, who are mostly burbs people, but would like to be close enough to get together on the occasional weeknight.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on January 21, 2022, 03:09:08 PM
Buying a place - Not opposed to the burbs but ideally would be close enough to uber to concert venues somewhat regularly.  Would like a yard.  I've looked at some of those downtown condos but really would like outdoor space.  Also, I hate the idea of an HOA in the hundreds of dollars a month.

To Trim's point why are you moving? Is it to have more nightlife options? Be closer to certain people? Just do something new?

I'd personally take DQ's recommendation and look at all the neighborhoods north of brookside to downtown as well. But if you want something newer can an uber from downtown to Overland Park be that expensive???
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2022, 03:09:35 PM
buy a midtown/volker house that has been at least somewhat renovated
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2022, 03:15:41 PM
I'll have to check with the wife for her opinion on ghosts.  I ain't afraid of no ghosts.

Buying a place - Not opposed to the burbs but ideally would be close enough to uber to concert venues somewhat regularly.  Would like a yard.  I've looked at some of those downtown condos but really would like outdoor space.  Also, I hate the idea of an HOA in the hundreds of dollars a month.

To Trim's point why are you moving? Is it to have more nightlife options? Be closer to certain people? Just do something new?

I'd personally take DQ's recommendation and look at all the neighborhoods north of brookside to downtown as well. But if you want something newer can an uber from downtown to Overland Park be that expensive???

We're moving, in part, to be closer to my wife's family in MO and KC is about as far east as I would go for that.  Concerts/shows are a definite plus and we have friends there that can help us keep a social life while working from home, which is a concern of mine.  I'm not all that concerned about living super close to our friends, who are mostly burbs people, but would like to be close enough to get together on the occasional weeknight.

Chicago.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2022, 03:46:48 PM
My wife and I may be moving to KC in the summer - I need pro-tips on places to avoid/ideal locations.  We both work remote and have no kids so commutes/schools don't have much impact on us.  Help me out KC experts!!
Do you plan on ever having kids?  Might want to factor in the school district if it’s even a possibility
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2022, 03:49:26 PM
A good area that is less expensive, with good schools, that is underrated is the Nall Hills area between Metcalf and Mission in North Overland Park…like south of 95th all the way south to 107th.  Most of that is Shawnee Mission South…cheaper than Shawnee Mission East district, and still great schools. Older homes, big yards. Etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 21, 2022, 04:06:21 PM
Why are you moving to KC if you both work remotely?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2022, 04:09:07 PM
Why are you moving to KC if you both work remotely?
He said friends and family
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 21, 2022, 04:10:53 PM
Why are you moving to KC if you both work remotely?

because it kicks ass
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 21, 2022, 05:40:27 PM
I'll have to check with the wife for her opinion on ghosts.  I ain't afraid of no ghosts.

Buying a place - Not opposed to the burbs but ideally would be close enough to uber to concert venues somewhat regularly.  Would like a yard.  I've looked at some of those downtown condos but really would like outdoor space.  Also, I hate the idea of an HOA in the hundreds of dollars a month.

To Trim's point why are you moving? Is it to have more nightlife options? Be closer to certain people? Just do something new?

I'd personally take DQ's recommendation and look at all the neighborhoods north of brookside to downtown as well. But if you want something newer can an uber from downtown to Overland Park be that expensive???

We're moving, in part, to be closer to my wife's family in MO and KC is about as far east as I would go for that.  Concerts/shows are a definite plus and we have friends there that can help us keep a social life while working from home, which is a concern of mine.  I'm not all that concerned about living super close to our friends, who are mostly burbs people, but would like to be close enough to get together on the occasional weeknight.

Assuming you are not planning on having any kids I would go with Dlew's suggestion of Brookside/Waldo. Waldo is cheaper than Brookside but IMO brookside is better...Or just split it down the middle and get something between ward parkway and state line between 63rd and 71st. I'm a big fan of those old houses.

If kids are in the picture at some point you should probably look for some McMansions in JOCO, I heard 151st is the new 135th!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 21, 2022, 05:42:32 PM
Why are you moving to KC if you both work remotely?
He said friends and family

I should have read about 30 posts before mine lol, Mich served it up and then mocat hit a 500 footer out of the park.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2022, 09:46:09 PM
free streetcar will stretch to about 50th street if you are looking for a place with good transit and not having to drive I would stick in there.

lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 23, 2022, 08:43:56 AM
free streetcar will stretch to about 50th street if you are looking for a place with good transit and not having to drive I would stick in there.

lmao
I know, right?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 23, 2022, 10:06:34 AM
Guys, it's gameday, let's not be mean to our IRL friends.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on January 24, 2022, 11:57:40 AM
get on the bleeding edge and snag one on Indy Ave.  Hyde Park is pretty snatched up by now.
Yep -- I was looking at some of those up there recently too.  Really cool.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/414-Gladstone-Blvd-Kansas-City-MO-64124/2286391_zpid/
 (https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/414-Gladstone-Blvd-Kansas-City-MO-64124/2286391_zpid/)
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/ace2013d5ac293b240711dc8239a2302-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)
(https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/a4690af2b5c2915b0907c75f8aa3d840-uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152.webp)
Very stately.

My house isn't a big old mansion like some of those, but it definitely is old.  I think it's 100th birthday is in the next year or two.

My Wife's cousin lives in a house EXACTLY like that in Hyde park.  Sold 17 houses in that area last year!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: nicname on January 24, 2022, 12:33:57 PM
Best kind of neighborhoods imo. College Hill in ICT is full of similar, and I love it to death (dont live there). Houses for mostly all price ranges too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on February 17, 2022, 07:32:18 AM
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1494303513853280264

That's right, baby!  :party:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on February 17, 2022, 03:12:25 PM
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1494303513853280264

That's right, baby!  :party:

All the REALLY cool cities are in the right column.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 17, 2022, 03:16:05 PM
The bitchiest drivers are in the cities on the right.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on February 17, 2022, 03:31:05 PM
The bitchiest drivers are in the cities on the right.

The worst traffic cities are on the right.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on February 17, 2022, 03:36:46 PM
I feel like there are fewer immigrant drivers in the cities on the left
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 17, 2022, 04:58:32 PM
Everyone on the left owns their own car
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 17, 2022, 05:25:39 PM
Helping kc out with my 4.97
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on February 27, 2022, 12:11:09 PM
Nonstop to JFK, we're big time now

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/1497927780251676673?t=zwwn1aW3unZo7Mdbc6BpsA&s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on March 29, 2022, 02:10:24 PM
Lady friend just moved to KC about a 9 months ago and her brother and his gf were in town for the first time last weekend. This conversation ensued.

Brother - "So according to my sister Kansas City has two mayor's, is that true?"

Ben ji - "Wut"

Lady friend - "Yeah, doesn't KC have 2 mayors"

Ben ji - "Kansas City Missouri has a mayor and Kansas City Kansas has a mayor but they are not the same city"

Lady friend - "They aren't the same city?"

Ben ji - "No, they are two different cities in 2 different states but right next to each other"

Lady friend - "I live in the Missouri one right?"

Ben ji - "Yes"

Brothers GF - "So Kansas City is not actually in Kansas but there is also a Kansas city in Kansas right next to the Kansas City in Missouri? This is so confusing"

They are from the Upper Midwest as well, not some out of touch coasters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 29, 2022, 03:14:00 PM
Lady friend just moved to KC about a 9 months ago and her brother and his gf were in town for the first time last weekend. This conversation ensued.

Brother - "So according to my sister Kansas City has two mayor's, is that true?"

Ben ji - "Wut"

Lady friend - "Yeah, doesn't KC have 2 mayors"

Ben ji - "Kansas City Missouri has a mayor and Kansas City Kansas has a mayor but they are not the same city"

Lady friend - "They aren't the same city?"

Ben ji - "No, they are two different cities in 2 different states but right next to each other"

Lady friend - "I live in the Missouri one right?"

Ben ji - "Yes"

Brothers GF - "So Kansas City is not actually in Kansas but there is also a Kansas city in Kansas right next to the Kansas City in Missouri? This is so confusing"

They are from the Upper Midwest as well, not some out of touch coasters.

You should have analogized it to West Berlin vs. East Berlin.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 29, 2022, 03:35:09 PM
Mention the North Kansas City mayor and enjoy the show.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on March 29, 2022, 03:39:51 PM
Lady friend just moved to KC about a 9 months ago and her brother and his gf were in town for the first time last weekend. This conversation ensued.

Brother - "So according to my sister Kansas City has two mayor's, is that true?"

Ben ji - "Wut"

Lady friend - "Yeah, doesn't KC have 2 mayors"

Ben ji - "Kansas City Missouri has a mayor and Kansas City Kansas has a mayor but they are not the same city"

Lady friend - "They aren't the same city?"

Ben ji - "No, they are two different cities in 2 different states but right next to each other"

Lady friend - "I live in the Missouri one right?"

Ben ji - "Yes"

Brothers GF - "So Kansas City is not actually in Kansas but there is also a Kansas city in Kansas right next to the Kansas City in Missouri? This is so confusing"

They are from the Upper Midwest as well, not some out of touch coasters.

You should have analogized it to West Berlin vs. East Berlin.

Exactly.  And frankly, wishing we had more barb wire and barking dogs.  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 29, 2022, 07:49:10 PM
This Chiefs bluff about moving to Kansas is going to be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on March 29, 2022, 09:35:32 PM
This Chiefs bluff about moving to Kansas is going to be fun to watch.
Wacks, just imagine if they moved to the legends and before/after a game you could throw up/spit beer all over a craps table at Hollywood Casino
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 29, 2022, 10:00:32 PM
This Chiefs bluff about moving to Kansas is going to be fun to watch.
Wacks, just imagine if they moved to the legends and before/after a game you could throw up/spit beer all over a craps table at Hollywood Casino
Holy crap!!! Lol :love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 29, 2022, 10:05:13 PM
Bring in these shitty MO poker player’s roll to Hollywood on Uber to Kansas and they’re pressing all night!  :excited:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 06, 2022, 10:42:45 AM
everyone complaining about the streetcar only being a 2 mile toy train is finally getting their wish!

https://twitter.com/TomGerend/status/1511729450878226433
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 06, 2022, 11:04:57 AM
NKC or an east spur is next on my wish list.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 06, 2022, 11:12:44 AM
NKC or an east spur is next on my wish list.
Take it south all the way to waldo like God intended when he built the trolly trail
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 06, 2022, 11:20:07 AM
let's just put all these back

(https://www.flatlandkc.org/assets/uploads/2020/06/Transportation-Map-and-Guide-of-Greater-KC-1944-sm-1170x878.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 06, 2022, 11:54:52 AM
let's just put all these back

(https://www.flatlandkc.org/assets/uploads/2020/06/Transportation-Map-and-Guide-of-Greater-KC-1944-sm-1170x878.jpg)

Completely destroying the streetcar system has to be one of the worst things a modern city has done infrastructure wise. Wtf were they thinking
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 06, 2022, 11:58:30 AM
the 1950's-1990's will eventually be looked back on as a weird blip in the overall human history of dense urban areas.

"let's take our most valuable property and surround it with highway overpasses"
- actual idea someone had
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 06, 2022, 12:05:03 PM
NKC or an east spur is next on my wish list.
Take it south all the way to waldo like God intended when he built the trolly trail

Good luck convincing BKS
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 06, 2022, 12:40:04 PM
the 1950's-1990's will eventually be looked back on as a weird blip in the overall human history of dense urban areas.

"let's take our most valuable property and surround it with highway overpasses"
- actual idea someone had

Cars, man. I still think the only way to keep the plaza from completely going under is closing the streets to traffic. Would make it a destination again.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 06, 2022, 12:49:43 PM
let's just put all these back

(https://www.flatlandkc.org/assets/uploads/2020/06/Transportation-Map-and-Guide-of-Greater-KC-1944-sm-1170x878.jpg)

Completely destroying the streetcar system has to be one of the worst things a modern city has done infrastructure wise. Wtf were they thinking

Literally every city did the same thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on April 06, 2022, 12:56:33 PM
Manifest Destiny
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 06, 2022, 12:57:33 PM
let's just put all these back

(https://www.flatlandkc.org/assets/uploads/2020/06/Transportation-Map-and-Guide-of-Greater-KC-1944-sm-1170x878.jpg)

Completely destroying the streetcar system has to be one of the worst things a modern city has done infrastructure wise. Wtf were they thinking

Literally every city did the same thing

Yes, and what a tragedy. Completely changed development in the US
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 06, 2022, 01:01:21 PM
streetcars were considered obsolete, understandably.

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The transit company relied heavily on streetcars in its early years but began phasing them out after World War II. As detailed in A Splendid Ride: The Streetcars of Kansas City, 1870-1957 by former Kansas City Star reporter Monroe Dodd, Public Service Company officials had deemed the streetcars obsolete and too expensive to maintain by the 1950s. Buses were cheaper to operate and, because they didn’t need miles of dedicated track and overhead powerlines to run, could easily alter routes and adapt to changing passenger needs.
https://www.kclibrary.org/blog/how-long-did-trains-run-rail-line-now-known-trolley-trail-your-kc-q-answered
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 06, 2022, 01:33:25 PM
let's just put all these back

(https://www.flatlandkc.org/assets/uploads/2020/06/Transportation-Map-and-Guide-of-Greater-KC-1944-sm-1170x878.jpg)

Completely destroying the streetcar system has to be one of the worst things a modern city has done infrastructure wise. Wtf were they thinking

Literally every city did the same thing

Yes, and what a tragedy. Completely changed development in the US

Yup, and for the worse.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 06, 2022, 01:34:08 PM
the 1950's-1990's will eventually be looked back on as a weird blip in the overall human history of dense urban areas.

"let's take our most valuable property and surround it with highway overpasses"
- actual idea someone had

Cars, man. I still think the only way to keep the plaza from completely going under is closing the streets to traffic. Would make it a destination again.

That is actually a pretty good idea. Traffic in it is awful and it's just not a good mix of people and cars at all.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 06, 2022, 01:45:08 PM
So probably a stupid question, but if we close the plaza to cars, how would a place like shake shack get their burgers delivered?  just have the big truck park off of 46th or something?

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 06, 2022, 02:00:36 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 06, 2022, 02:10:51 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
i meant like, getting burgers and stuff delivered to the store
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on April 06, 2022, 02:17:15 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
i meant like, getting burgers and stuff delivered to the store

You know those little teeth things that prevent cars from going in areas?  They can be removed for emergency vehicles and delivery vehicles.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 06, 2022, 02:20:40 PM
According to a very reliable plaza source, the delivery trucks show up at like 3 am on Tuesday so it's probably not a very big deal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 06, 2022, 02:44:52 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
i meant like, getting burgers and stuff delivered to the store

You know those little teeth things that prevent cars from going in areas?  They can be removed for emergency vehicles and delivery vehicles.

these are called bollards
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 06, 2022, 04:39:56 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
i meant like, getting burgers and stuff delivered to the store

good question, I'm not a logistics person so I can't answer this exactly. But, places like this exist all around the world, I'm sure smarter people than I have figured it out.

Just imagine all the tree lined streets w sidewalk cafes you picture in Europe, there's not reason the Plaza can't emulate that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 06, 2022, 04:42:02 PM
Closing down 47th probably not happening but could definitely close down Nichols
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 06, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
i meant like, getting burgers and stuff delivered to the store

good question, I'm not a logistics person so I can't answer this exactly. But, places like this exist all around the world, I'm sure smarter people than I have figured it out.

Just imagine all the tree lined streets w sidewalk cafes you picture in Europe, there's not reason the Plaza can't emulate that.

Isn't the plaza already trying to emulate Madrid/Barcelona et al?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2022, 04:43:49 PM
Is there any way a streetcar is functionally better than a bus? Or a few busses?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 06, 2022, 04:45:16 PM
Is there any way a streetcar is functionally better than a bus? Or a few busses?

one advantage streetcars have is that white midwestern people aren't afraid of riding them
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2022, 04:46:24 PM
Is there any way a streetcar is functionally better than a bus? Or a few busses?

one advantage streetcars have is that white midwestern people aren't afraid of riding them
Yeah I suppose that's kind of a functional reason
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 06, 2022, 04:47:02 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
i meant like, getting burgers and stuff delivered to the store

good question, I'm not a logistics person so I can't answer this exactly. But, places like this exist all around the world, I'm sure smarter people than I have figured it out.

Just imagine all the tree lined streets w sidewalk cafes you picture in Europe, there's not reason the Plaza can't emulate that.

Isn't the plaza already trying to emulate Madrid/Barcelona et al?

yes it was designed after the old city in Seville, which I visited in 2018, and guess what they don't have in their streets...cars!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 06, 2022, 04:49:12 PM
Is there any way a streetcar is functionally better than a bus? Or a few busses?

one advantage streetcars have is that white midwestern people aren't afraid of riding them
Yeah I suppose that's kind of a functional reason

Yes, culture is the main reason. People look down on bus ridership, but trains are fun! Also they have the potential to be more green depending on how the electricity is generated

They do tend to spur development better than bus routes, since it's assumed that streetcar line will be there for generations, whereas a bus route could change tomorrow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on April 06, 2022, 04:51:41 PM
Closing down 47th probably not happening but could definitely close down Nichols

Close Nichols running east-west and all the north-south streets between Wyandotte and Roanoke.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2022, 09:53:14 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
i meant like, getting burgers and stuff delivered to the store

good question, I'm not a logistics person so I can't answer this exactly. But, places like this exist all around the world, I'm sure smarter people than I have figured it out.

Just imagine all the tree lined streets w sidewalk cafes you picture in Europe, there's not reason the Plaza can't emulate that.

Isn't the plaza already trying to emulate Madrid/Barcelona et al?

yes it was designed after the old city in Seville, which I visited in 2018, and guess what they don't have in their streets...cars!
i hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is literally “kansas city avenue” in seville and there are, in fact, cars.  everywhere throughout seville, there are cars.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220407/ef26c454ad568410eb52848006ce050d.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2022, 09:59:34 PM
(that) shake shack does not deliver.
but to answer your question what would probably happen is 47th would be closed to vehicles, and the other streets would remain open.

a 47th street consisting of patios and trees and whatnot makes too much sense so i'm sure it won't happen
closing 47th actually makes no sense.
as phil mentioned, nichols is very doable but what is really the point? the sidewalks aren’t full, we don’t need more space down here.  there’s too much dead space already, you can’t turn the plaza into kc’s version of the 3rd Street Promenade

my vision of the ccp shifts the district from mainly commercial to mainly residential.  this is the direction that they need to focus on
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on April 06, 2022, 10:02:53 PM
Perfect spot for light rail is down the middle of Ward parkway. Tear out those fountains and stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 06, 2022, 10:05:29 PM
Perfect spot for light rail is down the middle of Ward parkway. Tear out those fountains and stuff.

100% support this
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 22, 2022, 01:29:08 PM
Gonna be able to walk your pooch right over 670 by 2024
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 22, 2022, 01:42:32 PM
a) it's annoying that we have to do this to fix colossal unforced errors of the past. thanks silent generation
b) i'm sure we'll f it up somehow and it will be a huge unused barney allis plaza type thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on April 22, 2022, 01:49:48 PM
Is there any way a streetcar is functionally better than a bus? Or a few busses?

one advantage streetcars have is that white midwestern people aren't afraid of riding them

It was pretty jarring to see the crazy diversity of people riding the streetcars in Portland and the diversity of the places these streetcars went. I took one to what I'm pretty sure is the third circle of hell. Portland doesn't check for fares on their public transport so whomever the eff wants to ride gets on and believe me, they take advantage.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 22, 2022, 01:54:28 PM
 :Lurk:
Gonna be able to walk your pooch right over 670 by 2024

Going to make a bitchin' space for World Cup parties.  Actually that will probably be Liberty Memorial.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 22, 2022, 01:59:49 PM
https://twitter.com/KCBJ_Thomas/status/1517538093833895942
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 22, 2022, 02:13:22 PM
The dog crap at that park is going to be insane
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 22, 2022, 03:40:57 PM
The dog crap at that park is going to be insane

Then don't go there.  More room for me and my bros to chill in the sun and kick the bag after crushing some sig cocks at the Stillwell.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 22, 2022, 03:42:11 PM
The dog crap at that park is going to be insane

Then don't go there. 

Seems unnecessary on a Friday afternoon.  I'm super stoked for it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 22, 2022, 03:44:39 PM
The dog crap at that park is going to be insane

Then don't go there. 

Seems unnecessary on a Friday afternoon.  I'm super stoked for it.

Let's can some smoky old fashioneds up at Horsefeathers and toss the bee around then.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2022, 03:47:44 PM
very cool idea, i love it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on April 22, 2022, 06:53:39 PM
Klyde Warren park in Dallas is a good example this.  There should be more of them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2022, 01:04:43 PM
Woof! This is going to be a crap show.

https://twitter.com/JoyceKC/status/1522273894861877251?s=20&t=ePHLplx_FcybG2BYGyM3rA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 05, 2022, 01:17:02 PM
Woof! This is going to be a crap show.

https://twitter.com/JoyceKC/status/1522273894861877251?s=20&t=ePHLplx_FcybG2BYGyM3rA

people are so weird. This is going to be a nightmare for the whole area to eat a sonic burger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 05, 2022, 01:19:11 PM
we humans are a disgusting species
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2022, 01:43:55 PM
We really are. I went to go check on the one in Overland Park the other day and there were lines 3 blocks long. Who has the patience for that crap? Mahomes has really made us all monsters.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2022, 08:59:38 PM
I went to north Tulsa or wherever that joco one is last Sunday afternoon. It was like a 2 hour excursion and totally worth it. Man I love whataburger.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2022, 11:03:43 AM
https://fox4kc.com/news/cost-going-up-to-build-kansas-city-current-soccer-stadium/?fbclid=IwAR2F92XZisisXK7EOp38UN3FFqIFsZRBSm07xJbsf_lpH0p-P2TcEY4RAaU
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2022, 11:18:08 AM
I've done some work on that thing. I think someone was lying to them about the budget during design because it was pretty obvious that they were going to be way above it with what they wanted.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Katpappy on May 23, 2022, 01:46:53 PM
https://fox4kc.com/news/cost-going-up-to-build-kansas-city-current-soccer-stadium/?fbclid=IwAR2F92XZisisXK7EOp38UN3FFqIFsZRBSm07xJbsf_lpH0p-P2TcEY4RAaU
Was reading the article and then this struck me in the eyes:                                                                                                           https://fox4kc.com/news/invasive-jumping-worms-spreading-throughout-missouri-kansas-and-more/?ipid=promo-link-block2
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2022, 01:58:42 PM
https://fox4kc.com/news/cost-going-up-to-build-kansas-city-current-soccer-stadium/?fbclid=IwAR2F92XZisisXK7EOp38UN3FFqIFsZRBSm07xJbsf_lpH0p-P2TcEY4RAaU
Was reading the article and then this struck me in the eyes:                                                                                                           https://fox4kc.com/news/invasive-jumping-worms-spreading-throughout-missouri-kansas-and-more/?ipid=promo-link-block2

 :sdeek:

Quote
If you find a small population, jumping worms’ tails separate from their bodies when caught, so experts say the best way to get rid of it is to seal it in a plastic bag, leave it in the sun for 10 minutes and then toss it in the trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on May 23, 2022, 02:20:27 PM
https://fox4kc.com/news/cost-going-up-to-build-kansas-city-current-soccer-stadium/?fbclid=IwAR2F92XZisisXK7EOp38UN3FFqIFsZRBSm07xJbsf_lpH0p-P2TcEY4RAaU
Was reading the article and then this struck me in the eyes:                                                                                                           https://fox4kc.com/news/invasive-jumping-worms-spreading-throughout-missouri-kansas-and-more/?ipid=promo-link-block2

 :sdeek:

Quote
If you find a small population, jumping worms’ tails separate from their bodies when caught, so experts say the best way to get rid of it is to seal it in a plastic bag, leave it in the sun for 10 minutes and then toss it in the trash.

If it's in a sealed bag, why does it need to be melted in the sun?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 24, 2022, 09:16:37 AM
for fun
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2022, 10:15:33 AM
what if the plaza was actually a plaza?? idk, idk

https://twitter.com/BrentToderian/status/1528943801854590978?t=1auAPlrzc5OvBD3PnRtENA&s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 26, 2022, 10:09:41 AM
Celebration at the station Sunday anybody? I think it's one of KC best annual events.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 26, 2022, 04:36:19 PM
for fun

send a message to other jumping worms that you are not to be crossed
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 26, 2022, 04:37:14 PM
Celebration at the station Sunday anybody? I think it's one of KC best annual events.

haven't missed it in over a decade, not counting rona.  Walk from my prime reserve parking spot to my pre-located picnic table...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 31, 2022, 01:40:04 PM
i'm assuming the buzzard fire is just part of a ploy to open yet another kaw's in westport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 31, 2022, 01:40:45 PM
i'm assuming the buzzard fire is just part of a ploy to open yet another kaw's in westport

Does feel like a very "aggieville" fire. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 31, 2022, 09:40:41 PM
i'm assuming the buzzard fire is just part of a ploy to open yet another kaw's in westport

Does feel like a very "aggieville" fire.
dam hood vent caught on fire! (No idea if thats what actually happened)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on June 13, 2022, 03:48:12 PM
Not really sure where this fits, but KC area bros should try and check this out

https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/1536438255037579264
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on June 13, 2022, 03:48:54 PM
Also, the Monarchs are like, really good at baseball so, yeah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2022, 09:13:30 PM
Congrats, everyone! Big day for the city! What big changes do we think we’ll see in the next 4 years? Pretty excited for us all.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2022, 08:48:14 AM
Congrats, everyone! Big day for the city! What big changes do we think we’ll see in the next 4 years? Pretty excited for us all.

Pretty cool to host World Cup for a city our size.  Look at all the other host cities by comparison.  What should we do in 4 years change wise that's doable?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 17, 2022, 08:53:39 AM
Not sure. Just thought we'd ramp up some things. Happy how we are now, just would be cool to see some new stuff.  :D
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2022, 08:58:58 AM
Not sure. Just thought we'd ramp up some things. Happy how we are now, just would be cool to see some new stuff.  :D

I'm sure Q will, just not sure what should be done!  Besides eliminate crime and pave all the streets.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 17, 2022, 09:04:26 AM
build hotels by camerohead
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: meow meow on June 17, 2022, 09:04:57 AM
build restaurants/bars by camerohead
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2022, 09:09:43 AM
ewww no way. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 17, 2022, 09:11:03 AM
Fescoe asked some KC city planner this morning if they could build the downtown baseball stadium by then. Isn't this thing in November? :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 17, 2022, 09:11:15 AM
Expand the light rail!  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on June 17, 2022, 09:11:42 AM
Turn Camerohead into Legends east!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 17, 2022, 09:12:31 AM
Turn Camerohead into Legends east!
They really should have done this 25 years ago
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2022, 09:14:30 AM
Expand the light rail!  :emawkid:

I think the UMKC extension should be running by 26.  Done!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 17, 2022, 09:16:14 AM
get a better airport!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 17, 2022, 09:29:10 AM
kc current’s stadium will be complete
streetcar to plaza will be done
hopefully we will have broken ground in the downtown stadium
the buck o’neil bridge redo complete
what’s the timeline on the park on top of the south loop?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 17, 2022, 09:30:05 AM
get a Braum's!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 17, 2022, 09:30:36 AM
kc current’s stadium will be complete
streetcar to plaza will be done
hopefully we will have broken ground in the downtown stadium
the buck o’neil bridge redo complete
what’s the timeline on the park on top of the south loop?
I heard on 810 yesterday that it will be done by then.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2022, 10:00:38 AM
kc current’s stadium will be complete
streetcar to plaza will be done
hopefully we will have broken ground in the downtown stadium
the buck o’neil bridge redo complete
what’s the timeline on the park on top of the south loop?
I heard on 810 yesterday that it will be done by then.

wow that would be cool.  I didn't know Buck 2.0 would be done by then either!  Nice.  Wish they could fix the north side loop too but no way in four years.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 17, 2022, 11:10:39 AM
buck 2 will be done in 24, the impact of this to traffic flow will be huge, i’m more excited than I should be about this project
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on June 17, 2022, 11:26:02 AM
They started setting precast girders this week  :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 17, 2022, 11:30:02 AM
buck 2 will be done in 24, the impact of this to traffic flow will be huge, i’m more excited than I should be about this project

Yeah i'ts just down the block from me, can't wait for it to be done and what it can do for some other highways.  There is a webcam on the MoDot site
https://www.modot.org/buck-oneil-bridge-design-build-project
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 17, 2022, 01:13:29 PM
They started setting precast girders this week  :surprised:
not sure what that is but it sounds amazing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 17, 2022, 01:57:30 PM
I just set a pre-cast girder in my shorts
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 17, 2022, 02:09:56 PM
Remember when somebody asked if the structural engineers were at fault when that kid got decapitated at schlitterbahn? This is a blog of attorneys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 17, 2022, 05:15:03 PM
Remember when somebody asked if the structural engineers were at fault when that kid got decapitated at schlitterbahn? This is a blog of attorneys

well is sure as hell wasn't some lawyer's fault dr. engineer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 18, 2022, 10:37:20 AM
I kind of doubt Schlitterbahn hired any engineers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fedor on June 20, 2022, 08:36:20 AM
I kind of doubt Schlitterbahn hired any engineers.
The owners basically designed it on the fly.  They tested it with sandbags as the crash test dummies. :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 20, 2022, 09:20:15 AM
I kind of doubt Schlitterbahn hired any engineers.
The owners basically designed it on the fly.  They tested it with sandbags as the crash test dummies. :horrorsurprise:

Yeah, kind of like when kids put together a tower to run marbles down, only for grown ups.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 20, 2022, 09:52:13 AM
they hired a structural engineering firm to ensure the structure was designed properly. they would not have been able to get the project permitted without one. the functionality of the ride is unrelated to the stability of the structure. there is no review or permit process that i know of for the safety of the functionality of a water slide, which is pretty wild.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 20, 2022, 09:53:56 AM
topical:

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-verr%C3%BCckt-schlitterbahn/id1308717668?i=1000557798958
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 23, 2022, 01:19:17 PM
shakespeare in the park is back after a couple years off. went last night and r&j is not my favorite but still great obviously. one of the more fun date nights you can have on a summer night in kc
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on June 25, 2022, 03:35:28 PM
shakespeare in the park is back after a couple years off. went last night and r&j is not my favorite but still great obviously. one of the more fun date nights you can have on a summer night in kc

Definitely looking forward to doing that next weekend, but yeah, R&J is just, so over played
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 25, 2022, 07:12:08 PM
shakespeare in the park is back after a couple years off. went last night and r&j is not my favorite but still great obviously. one of the more fun date nights you can have on a summer night in kc

Definitely looking forward to doing that next weekend, but yeah, R&J is just, so over played

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Kat Kid on June 26, 2022, 04:08:40 PM
https://theap.substack.com/p/the-local-news-hung-up-on-me-for
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on June 27, 2022, 08:17:59 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/24/best-cities-around-the-world-to-take-a-working-vacation.html

 :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on June 27, 2022, 03:05:41 PM
I heard there was some kind of train accident that happened there...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 27, 2022, 03:09:28 PM
I heard there was some kind of train accident that happened there...

https://twitter.com/cloudmarooned/status/1541496621921361920
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on June 27, 2022, 03:36:13 PM
Dax, please check in to let us know you're safe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2022, 03:42:59 PM
Also a pretty nasty semi truck crash / fire on 670 right west of downtown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 27, 2022, 05:40:48 PM
I was so confused by seeing that tweet of an axle then heard it hit a dump truck.  Seems that would put the SW Chief out of commission for a while?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on June 28, 2022, 06:31:43 PM
Seems that would put the SW Chief out of commission for a while?

There's...more than one...
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 07, 2022, 09:32:16 AM
RIP to this KC legend. demo started today.

https://kchistory.org/image/osco-drugstore-0 (https://kchistory.org/image/osco-drugstore-0)

i kind of forgot this was approved, lmao

https://www.kcur.org/news/2021-07-15/after-threat-of-demolition-kansas-city-council-approves-tax-breaks-to-redevelop-historic-katz-drug-store (https://www.kcur.org/news/2021-07-15/after-threat-of-demolition-kansas-city-council-approves-tax-breaks-to-redevelop-historic-katz-drug-store)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 07, 2022, 10:23:48 AM
Yeah I thought they had a plan to save it?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 07, 2022, 10:36:56 AM
blame the streetcar
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 07, 2022, 10:37:46 AM
blame the streetcar

Damn thing!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 07, 2022, 10:54:05 AM
Yeah I thought they had a plan to save it?

as you can see in the 2nd link, it is mostly saved (the clock tower and triangular facade). they are currently demo'ing the rear part of the building
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 07, 2022, 11:02:57 AM
Yeah I thought they had a plan to save it?

as you can see in the 2nd link, it is mostly saved (the clock tower and triangular facade). they are currently demo'ing the rear part of the building

I ain't got no time to be reading npr!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 07, 2022, 02:09:18 PM
Man, is Osco still around? I remember going into those stores as a kid and thinking, "wtf is this place?"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Skipper44 on July 10, 2022, 09:39:35 AM
Osco was the 20th century equivalent to Dollar General
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 10, 2022, 01:07:11 PM
Osco was the 20th century equivalent to Dollar General

But it also had weird, low-rent department store vibes, if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on July 11, 2022, 07:06:19 AM
shooting at westport ale house last night, 5 injured 1 dead.  :frown:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: j-von on July 13, 2022, 02:41:45 PM
Panasonic finally picked Kansas over Oklahoma as the location of their new battery factory.  Laura Kelly press conference at 5pm tonight.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/development/article263390538.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on July 22, 2022, 11:24:10 AM
This was an adorable experience to observe

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 22, 2022, 11:29:41 AM
totes adorbs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Institutional Control on September 02, 2022, 10:39:05 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 27, 2022, 03:22:01 PM
check out this ratio'd tweet in which modot celebrates the anniversary of shooting off its own dick and balls

https://twitter.com/MoDOT_KC/status/1585261794335100928?s=20&t=T1Ofrj4vkx-4KeST-aPtXA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on October 27, 2022, 03:33:57 PM
Yikes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 27, 2022, 04:23:49 PM
check out this ratio'd tweet in which modot celebrates the anniversary of shooting off its own dick and balls

https://twitter.com/MoDOT_KC/status/1585261794335100928?s=20&t=T1Ofrj4vkx-4KeST-aPtXA

Lol yeah soon as I saw that I was like oh no
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 27, 2022, 05:03:43 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on November 14, 2022, 09:23:59 AM
airport talk

https://twitter.com/tracywolfson/status/1591931695783100416
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on November 21, 2022, 07:58:25 PM
Nsfw

https://twitter.com/Dantej21/status/1594765784428994560?s=20&t=cSb0yi1buQPSTXDNxB9eow
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 21, 2022, 08:54:04 PM
Nsfw

https://twitter.com/Dantej21/status/1594765784428994560?s=20&t=cSb0yi1buQPSTXDNxB9eow
I'm honestly surprised no one got shot
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on November 21, 2022, 08:57:52 PM
Nsfw

https://twitter.com/Dantej21/status/1594765784428994560?s=20&t=cSb0yi1buQPSTXDNxB9eow
I'm honestly surprised no one got shot
I initially either thought it was staged or they were just security guards because a real cop would have ripped off a few rounds
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on November 22, 2022, 03:19:59 PM
Nsfw

https://twitter.com/Dantej21/status/1594765784428994560?s=20&t=cSb0yi1buQPSTXDNxB9eow
I'm honestly surprised no one got shot
I initially either thought it was staged or they were just security guards because a real cop would have ripped off a few rounds
Looks like they were private Westport security.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on November 22, 2022, 04:20:48 PM
Definitely security guards and a very dumb one at that.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 02, 2022, 08:53:14 AM
Where should a futbol/football fan go combo watch World Cup right into Dr. Pep? Going to be too cold for a casual World Cup fan to be outside at P&L.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on December 02, 2022, 09:21:20 AM
Your home
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 02, 2022, 09:29:17 AM
Your home

eww. Big events like these are better enjoyed amongst the people and I get less nervous around others.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on December 02, 2022, 09:45:58 AM
is that why you’ve never been to any pak event :blank: ?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on December 02, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
is that why you’ve never been to any pak event :blank: ?

My invite is always lost in the mail.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 25, 2023, 07:26:15 AM
The juice in this story, is so good

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article271554162.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 25, 2023, 09:20:20 AM
The juice in this story, is so good

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article271554162.html

I just came to post the same article.  How Charles Renner is still employed at Husch baffles the eff out of me.  What a very corrupt individual.  Good for Burns&Mac on getting their $$.  $62m!!

Everyone wondered how the hell Burns got pushed out and Edgemoore snuck in (even in front of AECOM), and now we know. 

Royals need to cut ties with Husch for the downtown ballpark.  The relationship will get scrutinized and become a major distraction (and it is warranted).   
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 25, 2023, 09:41:51 AM
Unbelievably good deal for Burns Mac!  All the revenue without the head ache of actually having to deliver a high profile project. Couldn’t have gone better for them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 25, 2023, 09:54:03 AM
I mean, lots of people knew something along these lines was coming
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 25, 2023, 09:56:29 AM
Unbelievably good deal for Burns Mac!  All the revenue without the head ache of actually having to deliver a high profile project. Couldn’t have gone better for them.

yeah that is amazing. good for them but like, who is paying for that? dnr entire article
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 25, 2023, 09:56:39 AM
Now whenever anyone has a broken hand drier in the bathroom, or slips on a water leak in the corner of the concourse, or scrapes their suburban in the parking garage they won’t mention Burns and Mac, and Burns and Mac still gets to go to the OP boat show this weekend with a fat line of credit.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 25, 2023, 09:57:50 AM
Unbelievably good deal for Burns Mac!  All the revenue without the head ache of actually having to deliver a high profile project. Couldn’t have gone better for them.

yeah that is amazing. good for them but like, who is paying for that? dnr entire article
Law firm’s errors and omissions policy will pay a lot, I bet…OR the law firm will sue the lawyer directly.  I AM NOT A LAWYER THO!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 25, 2023, 09:59:43 AM
the absolute best projects for an engineer to work on are the ones where you get paid and then the project gets canceled before being built. this is even better than that! they got their entire fee without doing any work
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 25, 2023, 10:11:51 AM
Snakey McSnakerson

https://www.huschblackwell.com/professionals/charles-renner (https://www.huschblackwell.com/professionals/charles-renner)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 25, 2023, 12:51:24 PM
when’s quinton going to have to answer to this?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 25, 2023, 03:20:34 PM
the absolute best projects for an engineer to work on are the ones where you get paid and then the project gets canceled before being built. this is even better than that! they got their entire fee without doing any work

Unbelievably good deal for Burns Mac!  All the revenue without the head ache of actually having to deliver a high profile project. Couldn’t have gone better for them.

It's the best, I love it so much (it's a nice payday for us)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 25, 2023, 03:21:35 PM
when’s quinton going to have to answer to this?

The thing he'll need to answer the most is did he properly vet the guy. Else the idea of having a 3rd party guy is not particularly weird/requirement on many gov't jobs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 25, 2023, 03:25:25 PM
The juice in this story, is so good

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article271554162.html

I just came to post the same article.  How Charles Renner is still employed at Husch baffles the eff out of me.  What a very corrupt individual.  Good for Burns&Mac on getting their $$.  $62m!!

Everyone wondered how the hell Burns got pushed out and Edgemoore snuck in (even in front of AECOM), and now we know. 

Royals need to cut ties with Husch for the downtown ballpark.  The relationship will get scrutinized and become a major distraction (and it is warranted).   

That was honestly the biggest :surprised: of the whole juicy article outside the impetus of the article being the entire Charles Renner rough ridin' crap up thing. KCMO absolutely needs to part ways with Husch   
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 26, 2023, 09:09:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVjHImuNzE&t=388s
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on January 30, 2023, 10:17:50 AM
Any chance this thing will be open in time for the NCAA tourney?

https://twitter.com/quintonlucaskc/status/1620033571334529024?s=46&t=jXwJgEczHNXwJ5rwET-kAA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 30, 2023, 10:26:49 AM
yes, i think it will be.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 30, 2023, 10:36:02 AM
Stone got a behind the scenes full VIP tour saturday.  AMA
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 30, 2023, 10:48:17 AM
Does Rick Bayless have an eatery in the new termy?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 30, 2023, 02:32:58 PM
Does Rick Bayless have an eatery in the new termy?

Answer:  No.  But he should

New airport will open 2.28.  To be announced at 4 today.  It is really amazing and something for all of us to be proud of. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 30, 2023, 03:18:53 PM
Does Rick Bayless have an eatery in the new termy?

Answer:  No.  But he should

New airport will open 2.28.  To be announced at 4 today.  It is really amazing and something for all of us to be proud of.

I have a flights 3 weeks and 1 week before the 28th. How awful is it going to be in the old airport that soon before the new one opens?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on January 30, 2023, 04:58:17 PM
Hey Stone.  Will there be good BBQ available?  That and normal modern airport comforts/conveniences/cleanliness is all I really need to for it to be a success in my book.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 30, 2023, 05:13:43 PM
Hey Stone.  Will there be good BBQ available?  That and normal modern airport comforts/conveniences/cleanliness is all I really need to for it to be a success in my book.

Yup. Winner of something at American royal gets a space for a year.

Pretty excited to get a normal airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Gooch on January 31, 2023, 09:26:22 AM
Maybe you guys will get a Chik-fil-a that is not open 80% of the time you are either leaving or arriving like Wichita? :flush:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 31, 2023, 09:35:32 AM
Hey Stone.  Will there be good BBQ available?  That and normal modern airport comforts/conveniences/cleanliness is all I really need to for it to be a success in my book.

Yup.  Meat mitch is in there also.  They have it vented for actual smokers. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 31, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
Maybe you guys will get a Chik-fil-a that is not open 80% of the time you are either leaving or arriving like Wichita? :flush:
nope, another idiotic decision was to not have a chick-fil-a
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 31, 2023, 11:17:42 AM
Maybe you guys will get a Chik-fil-a that is not open 80% of the time you are either leaving or arriving like Wichita? :flush:
nope, another idiotic decision was to not have a chick-fil-a

to be fair, there prob will be one soon after some of the local places get priced out and leave.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on January 31, 2023, 11:25:45 AM
Maybe you guys will get a Chik-fil-a that is not open 80% of the time you are either leaving or arriving like Wichita? :flush:

Big opportunity for chick-fil-gay here.

Given what kc's airport has been for decades and what kc'rs like about it, a good goal would be a scaled-for-size version of wichita's.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 31, 2023, 11:43:53 AM
are any of these restaurants accessible post-security, and will they ever be open? wow if so, i mean can you imagine that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: tdaver on January 31, 2023, 06:04:59 PM
Hey Stone.  Will there be good BBQ available?  That and normal modern airport comforts/conveniences/cleanliness is all I really need to for it to be a success in my book.

They have it vented for actual smokers.

:drool:  but hopefully not vented too well, right?  cause I want to fly home smelling like a pitmaster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on January 31, 2023, 07:27:09 PM
Maybe you guys will get a Chik-fil-a that is not open 80% of the time you are either leaving or arriving like Wichita? :flush:
nope, another idiotic decision was to not have a chick-fil-a

to be fair, there prob will be one soon after some of the local places get priced out and leave.

There was going to be one, it got cancelled because they hate gay people.

Being closed Sundays in a airport is also dumb  vendor to sign.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 31, 2023, 08:55:23 PM
they’d make more bread in 6 days versus the local joints open 7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on February 01, 2023, 11:24:47 AM
mrs. blast and i have a flight in april and we already agreed to go early and have a sit down lunch there. makes no sense and we are idiots but also kinda fun!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 01, 2023, 02:16:43 PM
There are a LOT of dining seats.  I hope they all survive.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on February 01, 2023, 02:24:16 PM
I'm super excited, have a flight in this weekend, and then Mid-March is when I have my next, I'm ready to cast off the old and bring in the new
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 02, 2023, 04:05:50 PM
What is the current airport parking situation? Are any of the new garages open? Is the circle/old garage still open and or a disaster? Economy is always a pain and I'd like to park close if I can since I'm only going to be gone a few days. Thanks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 02, 2023, 04:12:30 PM
Fears about close parking, definitely a Kansas city thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 02, 2023, 04:26:02 PM
What is the current airport parking situation? Are any of the new garages open? Is the circle/old garage still open and or a disaster? Economy is always a pain and I'd like to park close if I can since I'm only going to be gone a few days. Thanks

valet that crap boss
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 02, 2023, 04:43:53 PM
Fears about close parking, definitely a Kansas city thing

Not really, I just want to do it if i can. Last flight most of the close spots were taken/closed and I had to hustle back to economy. Just trying to plan sir.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 02, 2023, 04:50:43 PM
Fears about close parking, definitely a Kansas city thing

Not really, I just want to do it if i can. Last flight most of the close spots were taken/closed and I had to hustle back to economy. Just trying to plan sir.

valet is like $5 more
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 02, 2023, 05:31:58 PM
Uber. Garages are close to full if the counts are at all accurate and same with circle. Economy buses are a disaster.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 02, 2023, 05:43:16 PM
I've driven myself in the last couple of times and parked in Economy.  It's very meh but I haven't taken the time to research the parking sitch at KCI because in the past I've either been dropped off by friends/family or taken an Uber/Lyft

I think the new Terminal parking will be a nice step up. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 02, 2023, 08:23:58 PM
Uber. Garages are close to full if the counts are at all accurate and same with circle. Economy buses are a disaster.
7am flight so I’m leery of relying on Uber at 5am. Def was a though though.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on February 02, 2023, 08:25:19 PM
People like to drive that time because of the airport runs. Also you can schedule Uber the night before.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on February 02, 2023, 09:29:08 PM
People like to drive that time because of the airport runs. Also you can schedule Uber the night before.

Yeah, this. Plus, no traffic worries.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 02, 2023, 10:55:12 PM
Uber. Garages are close to full if the counts are at all accurate and same with circle. Economy buses are a disaster.
7am flight so I’m leery of relying on Uber at 5am. Def was a though though.


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I've taken quite a few around 4am from downtown. Usually no issues about a 10 minute wait
 Some drivers around they time are a little odd.

The buses in economy lately have been very inconsistent. The door to door is nice
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 03, 2023, 08:20:22 AM
Uber. Garages are close to full if the counts are at all accurate and same with circle. Economy buses are a disaster.
7am flight so I’m leery of relying on Uber at 5am. Def was a though though.


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I've taken quite a few around 4am from downtown. Usually no issues about a 10 minute wait
 Some drivers around they time are a little odd.

The buses in economy lately have been very inconsistent. The door to door is nice

Good tips, thanks. I'll prop drive the electric and park in the garage. I always forget they have dedicated spots there that are always open.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on February 03, 2023, 11:25:58 AM
The Parking Spot works pretty well for me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: BW on February 05, 2023, 10:41:20 AM
My office is real close. All my peeps park there and I run them over. There's Park n Go that can run you across. There's also plans for a Peachy Parking by Ambassador buildingbas well as a bunch of other stuff. https://youtu.be/4PwYReux2QE (https://youtu.be/4PwYReux2QE)

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on February 26, 2023, 04:20:40 PM
https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-sky-club-kansas-city/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KST8FAN on February 27, 2023, 04:50:58 AM
5 am to Chicago today. My first flight ever was out of KCI in 1979.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on February 28, 2023, 08:13:08 AM
Happy new MCI termy day!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 28, 2023, 09:18:38 AM
Just got back from a trip yesterday. It was hilarious. Left friday and there was like no food and basically just M & Ms left for snacks inside the terminal. We got back yesterday which was the last day and several of the bathrooms were just closed off. They def limped down to the end.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 01, 2023, 01:49:45 PM
First trip out is Sunday.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2023, 06:33:30 PM
i’m fed up with the nonstop new terminal talk.  the news has been broadcasting from there.  please, everyone, stop talking about it for your own good.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 01, 2023, 06:34:33 PM
i’m fed up with the nonstop new terminal talk.  the news has been broadcasting from there.  please, everyone, stop talking about it for your own good.

clams, the problem is the watching of the news, all their topics are trash.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2023, 06:38:34 PM
can’t argue with that, i’m just trying to be weather aware tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 01, 2023, 07:03:48 PM
I’m v excited about a KC <—> SA non stop flight coming back
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on March 01, 2023, 07:22:49 PM
5 am to Chicago today. My first flight ever was out of KCI in 1979.


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Just saw this, are you still here?!? Would have definitely watched Tang with you tonight. Shucks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KST8FAN on March 01, 2023, 09:19:13 PM
Yeah, here thru Friday, but had company dinner tonight.   We definitely need to do a windy city PAK.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 01, 2023, 09:54:18 PM
I ate at Dixons Chili tonight. Killed a few brews and had the footlong glizzy covered in chili, cheese onions and pickles AMA


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KST8FAN on March 03, 2023, 08:29:37 PM
'clams my last airport post, promise.  Like the glass enclosed jet ways and the moving walkway.  Got to see my purple bag deplane.

First  experience de icing at MDW before we took off.

My earliest recollection of the term de icing was this tragedy in high school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Katpappy on March 03, 2023, 09:18:03 PM
What do they use for deicing?  it couldn't be hot steam/water?  Seems like that would make it worst if below zero temps. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2023, 07:35:58 AM
What do they use for deicing?  it couldn't be hot steam/water?  Seems like that would make it worst if below zero temps.
It's basically, uh, antifreeze

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 04, 2023, 08:31:48 AM
What do they use for deicing?  it couldn't be hot steam/water?  Seems like that would make it worst if below zero temps.
It's basically, uh, antifreeze

Correct
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KST8FAN on March 04, 2023, 10:07:08 AM
What do they use for deicing?  it couldn't be hot steam/water?  Seems like that would make it worst if below zero temps.
It's basically, uh, antifreeze

Correct
Glycol I think?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 04, 2023, 11:52:30 AM
What do they use for deicing?  it couldn't be hot steam/water?  Seems like that would make it worst if below zero temps.
It's basically, uh, antifreeze

Correct
Glycol I think?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 04, 2023, 12:43:13 PM
First flight out of newCI tomorrow. 

Just went and looked at some visitor reviews of oldCI. Brutal, absolutely brutal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2023, 08:02:32 PM
Delta couldn't even wait a week before tickling our collective balls / vag

https://twitter.com/ByERussell/status/1633553825448738817?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2023, 11:30:13 AM
SW also (I think they already offered regional service to CUN tho, idk)

https://twitter.com/MayorLucasKC/status/1633879928394620928?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on March 09, 2023, 11:34:09 AM
how confident are we those expansions couldn't/wouldn't occur with the old airport
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2023, 12:12:22 PM
Delta built a sky club here and obvs that didn't happen before. Whether it turns into non-hub routes remains to be seen. Just a slight tickle at the moment
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on March 11, 2023, 05:53:59 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article272895540.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 12, 2023, 06:31:11 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article272895540.html

"...for the good of the people!"

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2023, 06:57:36 PM
My first trip in new terminal last week. A+

My lawd in heaven, some of these people.

Ridiculously long walk . . .  :lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 21, 2023, 11:36:31 AM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 21, 2023, 12:14:47 PM
My first trip in new terminal last week. A+

My lawd in heaven, some of these people.

Ridiculously long walk . . .  :lol:

There are a lot of people who need to learn to deal with the airport, 90% of all airports are like KCI now and they don't know how to deal with pick ups, moving sidewalks, etc.

My experience is honestly B+, it's nice, and overall a massive improvement, but they seemed to cheap out in some areas, and they definitely need to go through with a punch list crew and fix a few things, loose taps, TP holders that aren't properly mounted (mine was swinging from once of it's non receded screws), both of those happened just using the restroom once and that's insane (though minor) misses on something that should have been "done"

Maintenance wise they gotta step up too, early flight out yesterday, took 3 soap dispensers before I found one with soap, scuffed floors (really noticed it coming in late night Wednesday, better yesterday morning but still noticeable), and again, bathrooms looked in general as well kept as the old ones. Can you tell i was not impressed with the bathroom upkeep.

It's a bit nitpicky I get it, but for something that is 3 weeks old it is treated like the old one which is poor at best.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 21, 2023, 12:18:37 PM
Seems they need to hire 3x more cleaning people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2023, 12:43:04 PM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.

that's great
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 21, 2023, 01:05:29 PM
the dirtiness level of the airport has been discussed on twitter

https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/1636208193515692032?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 21, 2023, 01:08:15 PM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.

that's great

it really is. i took someone there from Germany who is probably the most well-traveled museum expert i know and they were like, why is this here
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 21, 2023, 01:08:49 PM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.

I also went for the first time ever back in February, wow, it's so good/nice. Not Smithsonian level but I was truly impressed, KC should be very proud of that museum.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 21, 2023, 01:12:00 PM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.

that's great

it really is. i took someone there from Germany who is probably the most well-traveled museum expert i know and they were like, why is this here
Why wouldn’t it be here?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2023, 01:13:59 PM
Imagine being the most well traveled museum expert in all of Germany and not having foreknowledge about how great the Nelson is.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 21, 2023, 01:19:14 PM
Imagine being the most well traveled museum expert in all of Germany and not having foreknowledge about how great the Nelson is.

Couldn't be me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 21, 2023, 02:04:39 PM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.

I also went for the first time ever back in February, wow, it's so good/nice. Not Smithsonian level but I was truly impressed, KC should be very proud of that museum.
I haven't been yet since I moved to town. Will have to give it a looksie
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 21, 2023, 05:21:28 PM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.

I also went for the first time ever back in February, wow, it's so good/nice. Not Smithsonian level but I was truly impressed, KC should be very proud of that museum.
I haven't been yet since I moved to town. Will have to give it a looksie
The Contemporary section in the Bloch addition has some jaw-dropping abstract impressionist pieces by Rothko and Jackson Pollock. Never get tired of Thomas Hart Benton either.

It was really cold on Saturday but my smallest kiddo wanted to go outside and get her picture taken standing next to every shuttlecock in the outdoor sculpture garden. Great memory.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 21, 2023, 09:56:56 PM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.

I also went for the first time ever back in February, wow, it's so good/nice. Not Smithsonian level but I was truly impressed, KC should be very proud of that museum.
I haven't been yet since I moved to town. Will have to give it a looksie
The Contemporary section in the Bloch addition has some jaw-dropping abstract impressionist pieces by Rothko and Jackson Pollock. Never get tired of Thomas Hart Benton either.

It was really cold on Saturday but my smallest kiddo wanted to go outside and get her picture taken standing next to every shuttlecock in the outdoor sculpture garden. Great memory.

I'm more a sucker classical to impressionist era. I was in general super impressed with their Asian and Near East Ancient Collection.

Also, the building itself is art unto itself, fantastic architecture, it's worth admiring on its own.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2023, 08:33:35 AM
Went to the Nelson-Atkins for the first time in like 13 years last weekend. What a fantastic institution and cultural treasure. Cannot believe that admission is free.

I also went for the first time ever back in February, wow, it's so good/nice. Not Smithsonian level but I was truly impressed, KC should be very proud of that museum.
I haven't been yet since I moved to town. Will have to give it a looksie
The Contemporary section in the Bloch addition has some jaw-dropping abstract impressionist pieces by Rothko and Jackson Pollock. Never get tired of Thomas Hart Benton either.

It was really cold on Saturday but my smallest kiddo wanted to go outside and get her picture taken standing next to every shuttlecock in the outdoor sculpture garden. Great memory.

I'm more a sucker classical to impressionist era. I was in general super impressed with their Asian and Near East Ancient Collection.

Also, the building itself is art unto itself, fantastic architecture, it's worth admiring on its own.

It is magnificently positioned on the hill and very impressive to approach from the south. The large hall inside the original museum is a very impressive space as well
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 22, 2023, 10:35:40 AM
My first trip in new terminal last week. A+

My lawd in heaven, some of these people.

Ridiculously long walk . . .  :lol:

There are a lot of people who need to learn to deal with the airport, 90% of all airports are like KCI now and they don't know how to deal with pick ups, moving sidewalks, etc.

My experience is honestly B+, it's nice, and overall a massive improvement, but they seemed to cheap out in some areas, and they definitely need to go through with a punch list crew and fix a few things, loose taps, TP holders that aren't properly mounted (mine was swinging from once of it's non receded screws), both of those happened just using the restroom once and that's insane (though minor) misses on something that should have been "done"

Maintenance wise they gotta step up too, early flight out yesterday, took 3 soap dispensers before I found one with soap, scuffed floors (really noticed it coming in late night Wednesday, better yesterday morning but still noticeable), and again, bathrooms looked in general as well kept as the old ones. Can you tell i was not impressed with the bathroom upkeep.

It's a bit nitpicky I get it, but for something that is 3 weeks old it is treated like the old one which is poor at best.

I noticed some things as well.  The monitors around the gate areas are very low end for a new airport and many are not very well mounted.   The LED pedestal and information display system they have at Dallas Love Field-SWA is simply out of this world fantastic, it's a shame I hate SWA.  This is something that new MCI needs to aspire to IMO. 

I am not that bothered by the somewhat spartan interior of the new terminal because that can be improved over time, and many airport terminals start out that way.  New construction is crushingly expensive these days (for example the current projects for K-State athletics are going to cost $20 million more than originally budgeted, the new Baylor arena is going to cost $20 million more than originally budgeted). 

I hope they fix the day to day maintenance issues quickly. Really no excuse for that, even in a tough labor market. Plenty of methods to get that rectified.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 23, 2023, 11:18:31 PM
The Town On The River. FTW

https://twitter.com/unionstationkc/status/1639103693114036228?s=46&t=mePkKn6StVV98h2WF84F2g
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 24, 2023, 12:25:45 AM
My first trip in new terminal last week. A+

My lawd in heaven, some of these people.

Ridiculously long walk . . .  :lol:

There are a lot of people who need to learn to deal with the airport, 90% of all airports are like KCI now and they don't know how to deal with pick ups, moving sidewalks, etc.

My experience is honestly B+, it's nice, and overall a massive improvement, but they seemed to cheap out in some areas, and they definitely need to go through with a punch list crew and fix a few things, loose taps, TP holders that aren't properly mounted (mine was swinging from once of it's non receded screws), both of those happened just using the restroom once and that's insane (though minor) misses on something that should have been "done"

Maintenance wise they gotta step up too, early flight out yesterday, took 3 soap dispensers before I found one with soap, scuffed floors (really noticed it coming in late night Wednesday, better yesterday morning but still noticeable), and again, bathrooms looked in general as well kept as the old ones. Can you tell i was not impressed with the bathroom upkeep.

It's a bit nitpicky I get it, but for something that is 3 weeks old it is treated like the old one which is poor at best.

I noticed some things as well.  The monitors around the gate areas are very low end for a new airport and many are not very well mounted.   The LED pedestal and information display system they have at Dallas Love Field-SWA is simply out of this world fantastic, it's a shame I hate SWA.  This is something that new MCI needs to aspire to IMO. 

I am not that bothered by the somewhat spartan interior of the new terminal because that can be improved over time, and many airport terminals start out that way.  New construction is crushingly expensive these days (for example the current projects for K-State athletics are going to cost $20 million more than originally budgeted, the new Baylor arena is going to cost $20 million more than originally budgeted). 

I hope they fix the day to day maintenance issues quickly. Really no excuse for that, even in a tough labor market. Plenty of methods to get that rectified.

That's fair and it's fairly neutral for me on that. It does, however for now, give it a "brand x" generic feel, architecturally nothing screams "KC" though that does take some time (and I understand there isn't a "KC" architectural style, just nothing that gives it a "hey I am in KC" feel, it definitely is made up though in the local vendors, I think that is the compensation).
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on March 24, 2023, 07:24:31 AM
the "KC architectural style" is just early 1970s brutalist (arrowhead, crown center, old KCI), which we are trying to replace with something else.
they could have gone Deco, to echo (lol) the P&L building, City Hall, Jackson County Courthouse, Municipal Auditorium, etc, but that would have just been pastiche and that is also not specific to KC.
the Shirtwaist home is the only architectural style that i know of that is truly unique to KC, and that is obviously n/a to an airport or any large commercial building
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on March 24, 2023, 09:33:19 AM
The Town On The River. FTW

https://twitter.com/unionstationkc/status/1639103693114036228?s=46&t=mePkKn6StVV98h2WF84F2g

Ahhhh, Kansas City. The Town On The River. Why did no one else ever think to put a town on a river before? We'll probably never know, but it's interesting to think about.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 24, 2023, 09:40:42 AM
the "KC architectural style" is just early 1970s brutalist (arrowhead, crown center, old KCI), which we are trying to replace with something else.
they could have gone Deco, to echo (lol) the P&L building, City Hall, Jackson County Courthouse, Municipal Auditorium, etc, but that would have just been pastiche and that is also not specific to KC.
the Shirtwaist home is the only architectural style that i know of that is truly unique to KC, and that is obviously n/a to an airport or any large commercial building

I just wish they did something to set it apart, like the the control tower at LA, or just the weirdness of DIA, something to be like "this is KC" even if in some small part
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 24, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
The Town On The River. FTW

https://twitter.com/unionstationkc/status/1639103693114036228?s=46&t=mePkKn6StVV98h2WF84F2g

Ahhhh, Kansas City. The Town On The River. Why did no one else ever think to put a town on a river before? We'll probably never know, but it's interesting to think about.
I'm sure at some point, humans will develop another settlement by a river but for now I will cherish Kansas City. My soul is drawn toward it along the waterways of central Kansas.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on March 24, 2023, 11:03:20 AM
The Town On The River. FTW

https://twitter.com/unionstationkc/status/1639103693114036228?s=46&t=mePkKn6StVV98h2WF84F2g

Union Station is nice, but the Marriott Powercat and other background purple is elite.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 24, 2023, 12:02:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFDQ-M_yuFI
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on March 26, 2023, 10:57:45 PM
So, been recently been seriously contemplating getting a condo/moving to the downtown KC area once I return from the great white north. Prolly a phil question but any good suggestions (I get availability is what it is) but I do see some prospects in the Western Auto building (some with and w/ the special assessment taken care of) as well as 1101 Walnut, which looks pretty choice.

General criteria: not insanely pricey (not over 350k, ideally 225-300k) 1 or two bed condos, HOA that makes sense for the price (~500/month) and gets me to be social for once. I'm single and truly ready to mingle and both stepping out of my comfort zone while having a space that is more than just an apartment.

Been scouting zillow and others, see some that fit, but if anyone has some good intel on spaces in the crossroads/central downtown/river market area.

Basically, living in the burbs (unless there is the condo near downtown OP) is just not easy to manage by myself, especially if I need to be gone for periods of time. Owning a house is definitely a multi person effort unless you are basically there all the time.

TIA, appreciate any advice. Just trying to simplify my life and getting back into the social scene upon my return
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on March 27, 2023, 07:09:21 AM
I've owned a couple so have experience. I haven't looked on the market for a couple years though so not really up to date on what's a good deal out there. I'd avoid the cluster of buildings around 8th and locust. Heard nothing good about their HOA health. Whatever tier and Western auto recently in the news for misleading HOA management (the two you mentioned) but I think they are still healthier if you see a good deal and do your research.

Not a ton of options in KC for condos.
Happy to help with any specific questions. Tall building with elevators tend to get expensive fast with maintenance.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 08, 2023, 05:39:08 PM
My brother works for an event management company, mainly music festivals but they have a small contract for something to do with the NFL draft.

Apparently the stage for the draft is so heavy they had to reinforce a lot of the underground parking in order to hold it.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 08, 2023, 06:48:22 PM
:sdeek:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 08, 2023, 06:55:16 PM
I don't love that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 08, 2023, 11:48:30 PM
LOL at any reinforcing of a parking garage structure sitting on wood 6x6s or whatever those are
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 09, 2023, 02:00:11 PM
Luckily KC has absolutely ZERO history of catastrophic structural collapses in that area of town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: schreds21 on April 09, 2023, 10:03:57 PM
LOL at any reinforcing of a parking garage structure sitting on wood 6x6s or whatever those are
What would you prefer they sit on?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2023, 06:45:41 AM
I remember when they were picking a site this was one of the reasons union station wasn't chosen. Must be how they got it to work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2023, 07:11:59 AM
LOL at any reinforcing of a parking garage structure sitting on wood 6x6s or whatever those are
What would you prefer they sit on?
schreds are you a contractor
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2023, 09:14:22 AM
it’s really awesome that they picked such a great location with the beautiful backdrop of the historic architecture of union station and that their giant stage is going to conceal the entire front facade of the station.  great job to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2023, 09:20:31 AM
the stage is enormous, it is crazy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2023, 09:23:29 AM
at this point there’s zero reason to have it happen at union station, might as well have it at any random field in olathe or some other indistinguishable location
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2023, 09:57:02 AM
So this thing is outside?

I suppose it would have to be, because the acoustics inside Union station are absolutely awful. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2023, 09:58:09 AM
Makes me wonder why they didn't just do it in the Midland or Sprint Center.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2023, 10:35:17 AM
It supposedly attracts a crap ton of people. I have no idea why. Vegas it was back behind by the High Roller in a parking lot. Nashville it was down broadway I think. Dallas it was outside Jerry Dome.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2023, 10:36:25 AM
Was casa del 'clams on the plaza already booked?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2023, 11:38:17 AM
Makes me wonder why they didn't just do it in the Midland or Sprint Center.
I wonder why they do a massive in person event at all. It seems so dumb
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2023, 11:49:47 AM
My mom has a former coworker/friend coming to visit her in kc. Because of schedules she needs to only plan one day of activities. She really wants to show this bay area lifer that kc/kansas/the Midwest isn't a bunch of hillbilly bigots. Any suggestos? I thought maybe a show at missie b's would be fun but those might start too late.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2023, 12:07:50 PM
My mom has a former coworker/friend coming to visit her in kc. Because of schedules she needs to only plan one day of activities. She really wants to show this bay area lifer that kc/kansas/the Midwest isn't a bunch of hillbilly bigots. Any suggestos? I thought maybe a show at missie b's would be fun but those might start too late.

Nelson and/or WWI and/or NLBM and/or Green Lady and/or your thing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 10, 2023, 12:08:56 PM
Makes me wonder why they didn't just do it in the Midland or Sprint Center.
I wonder why they do a massive in person event at all. It seems so dumb

it is quite amazing they have made the draft a thing to go to. I'm volunteering for it, shocked how many volunteers they were looking for, I think it had to be like a 1000 people.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2023, 12:17:37 PM
What changed that they moved it away from New York?  1965-2014 then it got turned into a traveling road show.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2023, 12:55:56 PM
I think maybe they get the visited cities to pick up the tab?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2023, 01:09:15 PM
Why kind of insular human existence drives one to think that people in points beyond their little world are all hillbilly bigots?

How sad

Title: Kansas City things
Post by: wiley on April 10, 2023, 01:12:55 PM
What changed that they moved it away from New York?  1965-2014 then it got turned into a traveling road show.
Scheduling conflicts with the original venue, and the event had out grown radio city


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 10, 2023, 01:23:24 PM
The stage is open in the back, so Union Station will be visible (according to renderings). 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 10, 2023, 09:41:03 PM
My mom has a former coworker/friend coming to visit her in kc. Because of schedules she needs to only plan one day of activities. She really wants to show this bay area lifer that kc/kansas/the Midwest isn't a bunch of hillbilly bigots. Any suggestos? I thought maybe a show at missie b's would be fun but those might start too late.

Nelson and/or WWI and/or NLBM and/or Green Lady and/or your thing

La Bodega to Green Lady is the pocket aces of 2nd dates in KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 10, 2023, 09:51:59 PM
My buddy lives in the crossroads across the train tracks from union station so I'm planning on going to the draft with him on friday just to check it out. Will probably be there about 30 minutes then go hit up some breweries.

I'm interested to see who these SUPER NFL FANS are that would actually travel for a draft.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2023, 09:54:55 PM
My buddy lives in the crossroads across the train tracks from union station so I'm planning on going to the draft with him on friday just to check it out. Will probably be there about 30 minutes then go hit up some breweries.

I'm interested to see who these SUPER NFL FANS are that would actually travel for a draft.

Please issue your report here, after. But no matter what, I'm glad the visitors will get to enjoy some screwdrivers and ravioli in the new terminal.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 11, 2023, 11:42:00 AM
My buddy lives in the crossroads across the train tracks from union station so I'm planning on going to the draft with him on friday just to check it out. Will probably be there about 30 minutes then go hit up some breweries.

I'm interested to see who these SUPER NFL FANS are that would actually travel for a draft.

does he live in stuart hall because i used to live there and loved it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2023, 11:49:16 AM
9 minutes from parking spot, through security and to gate this morning.   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MidnightOil82 on April 11, 2023, 01:44:45 PM
Maybe Shatto could get a booth nearby to sell some merch?

     https://shatto.bigcartel.com/category/specialty-bottles

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 11, 2023, 10:39:22 PM
Goddamn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 11, 2023, 10:40:09 PM
My buddy lives in the crossroads across the train tracks from union station so I'm planning on going to the draft with him on friday just to check it out. Will probably be there about 30 minutes then go hit up some breweries.

I'm interested to see who these SUPER NFL FANS are that would actually travel for a draft.

One condo I was looking at (and already someone is on it) is right in that area
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 11, 2023, 10:47:59 PM
9 minutes from parking spot, through security and to gate this morning.   :thumbsup:

not much longer for me sunday, I checked a bag too.  The security is really fast.  NOW, I wil reserve for Thanksgiving/spring break mornings
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on April 12, 2023, 08:38:04 AM
Makes me wonder why they didn't just do it in the Midland or Sprint Center.
I wonder why they do a massive in person event at all. It seems so dumb

it is quite amazing they have made the draft a thing to go to. I'm volunteering for it, shocked how many volunteers they were looking for, I think it had to be like a 1000 people.
Now, I’m not a “late-stage capitalism” kinda guy, but needing 1000 volunteers to put this televised revenue generating event on for the NFL is pretty insane
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2023, 08:46:14 AM
Makes me wonder why they didn't just do it in the Midland or Sprint Center.
I wonder why they do a massive in person event at all. It seems so dumb

it is quite amazing they have made the draft a thing to go to. I'm volunteering for it, shocked how many volunteers they were looking for, I think it had to be like a 1000 people.
Now, I’m not a “late-stage capitalism” kinda guy, but needing 1000 volunteers to put this televised revenue generating event on for the NFL is pretty insane

Yeah, I also don't love that
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2023, 09:21:36 AM
Makes me wonder why they didn't just do it in the Midland or Sprint Center.
I wonder why they do a massive in person event at all. It seems so dumb

it is quite amazing they have made the draft a thing to go to. I'm volunteering for it, shocked how many volunteers they were looking for, I think it had to be like a 1000 people.
Now, I’m not a “late-stage capitalism” kinda guy, but needing 1000 volunteers to put this televised revenue generating event on for the NFL is pretty insane

Well we actually get paid 18 bucks an hour. It was ran like a volunteer sign up.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2023, 11:38:26 AM
this thing is nuts. there are people standing at every surrounding intersection 24/7 just telling people where to drive.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2023, 12:00:14 PM
For real thought this was next week
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 12, 2023, 12:03:42 PM
picture is worth a thousand words guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2023, 01:08:13 PM
This is from last Friday on my way to FF

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230412/da53a97be8867db16a5c35150e3eb4f3.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2023, 01:11:37 PM
Monday morning there were thousands of workers. They're all just out of frame, working too

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230412/9276e27696d304cbc80d0b66241a9c34.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 12, 2023, 01:28:56 PM
TY mocat

I am not really that enthused about the draft. I never watch it except maybe a little of the first round, just follow on my phone or read the next day. Going to it in person has little to no interest to me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 12, 2023, 01:59:19 PM
Looking forward to seeing this thing in person in a couple weeks!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2023, 02:12:42 PM
TY mocat

I am not really that enthused about the draft. I never watch it except maybe a little of the first round, just follow on my phone or read the next day. Going to it in person has little to no interest to me.

i think that could be because you are a normal person?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2023, 02:26:12 PM
TY mocat

I am not really that enthused about the draft. I never watch it except maybe a little of the first round, just follow on my phone or read the next day. Going to it in person has little to no interest to me.

i think that could be because you are a normal person?

Yes, for sure.

I do think though it's cool they now rotate it to cities w/ franchises instead of it just being in NYC and can have some added value getting $$ from the non-normal people who attend it.

I do think it's crack cocaine for sports-marketing & sabermetrics dudes as well as for fans who have screws lose and money to be parted from them, so let them have their day.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2023, 03:10:38 PM
TY mocat

I am not really that enthused about the draft. I never watch it except maybe a little of the first round, just follow on my phone or read the next day. Going to it in person has little to no interest to me.

i think that could be because you are a normal person?

I know right? Lil SF is begging to go and I think I'm going to have to figure it out. Standing around a huge crowd of people to be at an event I think is dumb even for TV is going to be something. Memories for the little guy I guess.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: passranch on April 12, 2023, 04:08:49 PM
For real thought this was next week

Up until this morning I legit thought it was starting tomorrow.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2023, 04:12:57 PM
:runaway:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 12, 2023, 06:23:03 PM
TY mocat

I am not really that enthused about the draft. I never watch it except maybe a little of the first round, just follow on my phone or read the next day. Going to it in person has little to no interest to me.

i think that could be because you are a normal person?

I know right? Lil SF is begging to go and I think I'm going to have to figure it out. Standing around a huge crowd of people to be at an event I think is dumb even for TV is going to be something. Memories for the little guy I guess.

I'd definitely take lil SF just so he can say he has been to the NFL draft and mush it in the face of all his classmates. Maybe saturday during the day?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 12, 2023, 06:27:04 PM
My buddy lives in the crossroads across the train tracks from union station so I'm planning on going to the draft with him on friday just to check it out. Will probably be there about 30 minutes then go hit up some breweries.

I'm interested to see who these SUPER NFL FANS are that would actually travel for a draft.

does he live in stuart hall because i used to live there and loved it

I think its called Arterra? 21st and wyandotte area.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 12, 2023, 06:29:54 PM
TY mocat

I am not really that enthused about the draft. I never watch it except maybe a little of the first round, just follow on my phone or read the next day. Going to it in person has little to no interest to me.

i think that could be because you are a normal person?

I know right? Lil SF is begging to go and I think I'm going to have to figure it out. Standing around a huge crowd of people to be at an event I think is dumb even for TV is going to be something. Memories for the little guy I guess.

I'd definitely take lil SF just so he can say he has been to the NFL draft and mush it in the face of all his classmates. Maybe saturday during the day?

I'd go get drunk at this thing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 12, 2023, 06:37:34 PM
TY mocat

I am not really that enthused about the draft. I never watch it except maybe a little of the first round, just follow on my phone or read the next day. Going to it in person has little to no interest to me.

i think that could be because you are a normal person?

I know right? Lil SF is begging to go and I think I'm going to have to figure it out. Standing around a huge crowd of people to be at an event I think is dumb even for TV is going to be something. Memories for the little guy I guess.

I'd definitely take lil SF just so he can say he has been to the NFL draft and mush it in the face of all his classmates. Maybe saturday during the day?

I'd go get drunk at this thing.

Yeah, go to the draft for like 30 minutes then walk over to the crossroads and slam like 18 billion beers and make lil SF drive home.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 12, 2023, 06:39:08 PM
My brother works for an event management company, mainly music festivals but they have a small contract for something to do with the NFL draft.

Apparently the stage for the draft is so heavy they had to reinforce a lot of the underground parking in order to hold it.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230408/db279b658e04f7856c45e16c441cf0b4.jpg)

Looks like the KC Star is reading gE for article ideas

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article274012315.html
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 12, 2023, 06:41:55 PM
TY mocat

I am not really that enthused about the draft. I never watch it except maybe a little of the first round, just follow on my phone or read the next day. Going to it in person has little to no interest to me.

i think that could be because you are a normal person?

I know right? Lil SF is begging to go and I think I'm going to have to figure it out. Standing around a huge crowd of people to be at an event I think is dumb even for TV is going to be something. Memories for the little guy I guess.

I'd definitely take lil SF just so he can say he has been to the NFL draft and mush it in the face of all his classmates. Maybe saturday during the day?

I'd go get drunk at this thing.

Yeah, go to the draft for like 30 minutes then walk over to the crossroads and slam like 18 billion beers and make lil SF drive home.

I wouldn't want to take a kid. I don't recall seeing a lot of kids at it on TV. It seems to be mostly obnoxious, old guys.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2023, 07:37:47 PM
The NFL Experience part is never on TV and is all focused on kid crap. 40 yard dash, field goal kicking, etc.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 12, 2023, 07:50:48 PM
The NFL Experience part is never on TV and is all focused on kid crap. 40 yard dash, field goal kicking, etc.

Well, now he has to take lil SF.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2023, 06:02:49 AM
https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/status/1646317783607660547?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2023, 08:20:40 AM
The NFL Experience part is never on TV and is all focused on kid crap. 40 yard dash, field goal kicking, etc.

Well, now he has to take lil SF.

Not if you guys don't tell him about this stuff.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 13, 2023, 09:08:58 AM
Quoting doesn't work anymore but mocat what destinations does sun country air bring?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2023, 10:05:45 AM
Quoting doesn't work anymore but mocat what destinations does sun country air bring?

:dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 13, 2023, 10:09:48 AM
It doesn't work on my machine kRusty!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 13, 2023, 10:40:45 AM
It doesn't work on my machine kRusty!

I can do this, but lots of other crap is busted right now. Saul must be on permanent vacation. Maybe a go fund me is needed to get Saul back to fixing stuff. :dunno:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2023, 11:02:31 AM
Sun Country is awesome, guys.

I'm sure that MCI won't have all the destinations of MSP but they essentially fly everywhere in america and various other North American travel spots from Belize to Vancouver
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2023, 11:35:44 AM
Yeah it will be one stop at MSP away from all those places
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2023, 12:55:00 PM
I thought sun country was just another Aldi's of the sky. Intrigued
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2023, 02:29:33 PM
It's a discount airline for sure, but pretty easily the best discount airline with the best destinations
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2023, 02:30:24 PM
Yeah it will be one stop at MSP away from all those places

For real?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2023, 02:39:27 PM
Yeah it will be one stop at MSP away from all those places

For real?

https://www.suncountry.com/route-map

(https://i.imgur.com/NUi5zdk.png)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2023, 02:47:09 PM
i'm sure kc was already one stop away from all those places but it's always good to have more options
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 13, 2023, 06:10:26 PM
Sun country is a good get
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on April 13, 2023, 06:14:35 PM
I'm a frequent traveller, and I've honestly never heard of Sun Country?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2023, 06:30:18 PM
sounds like a brand of wine cooler
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on April 13, 2023, 07:11:25 PM
I am a frequent MN visitor so this is a wonderful news for me.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 13, 2023, 08:37:48 PM
I'm a frequent traveller, and I've honestly never heard of Sun Country?

#metoo
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2023, 09:09:05 PM
Yeah it will be one stop at MSP away from all those places

For real?

https://www.suncountry.com/route-map

(https://i.imgur.com/NUi5zdk.png)

Jesus Christ guys. I know how airplanes work.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2023, 09:10:16 PM
I'm a frequent traveller, and I've honestly never heard of Sun Country?

#metoo

Because y'all don't live in or frequent Minnesota
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 13, 2023, 09:15:17 PM
Who the eff would want to frequent Minnesota tho? Too cold, yuck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 13, 2023, 09:18:56 PM
I have seen sun country planes at caribbean airport gates :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2023, 09:27:33 PM
Yeah it will be one stop at MSP away from all those places

For real?

https://www.suncountry.com/route-map

(https://i.imgur.com/NUi5zdk.png)

Jesus Christ guys. I know how airplanes work.
Man I honestly didn't know what you were doing
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2023, 09:42:46 PM
I love their entire business model is getting the upper midwest out of their horrible weather.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on April 13, 2023, 10:00:17 PM
I love their entire business model is getting the upper midwest out of their horrible weather.
I am jealous of the ones who do the sw desert in the winter and northern woods lake in the summer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 13, 2023, 10:41:07 PM
I love their entire business model is getting the upper midwest out of their horrible weather.
I am jealous of the ones who do the sw desert in the winter and northern woods lake in the summer.
My mom snow birds. I just decided to move south to avoid winter altogether. Also a girl but, whatever.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 14, 2023, 08:46:53 AM
lol. lmao

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230414/42baad2f807b4d4649ae76f5fb2a8bc5.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2023, 08:52:14 AM
lol. lmao

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230414/42baad2f807b4d4649ae76f5fb2a8bc5.jpg)
Holy crap lol why
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2023, 08:55:35 AM
I'm sorry what

Quote
Forbes just released a prediction, saying the NFL Draft will bring more than $100 million to Kansas City!

Quote
The NFL is predicting 300,000 people will be filling the streets of KC


https://www.kctv5.com/2023/04/11/nfl-draft-expected-bring-100m-kansas-city/

That all has to be made up right???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Brock Landers on April 14, 2023, 09:08:42 AM
I'm sorry what

Quote
Forbes just released a prediction, saying the NFL Draft will bring more than $100 million to Kansas City!

Quote
The NFL is predicting 300,000 people will be filling the streets of KC


https://www.kctv5.com/2023/04/11/nfl-draft-expected-bring-100m-kansas-city/

That all has to be made up right???

IIRC when the draft was in Nashville a few years ago they claimed over half a million people showed up for it.  It could still all be made up numbers though!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2023, 09:13:49 AM
In before ‘clams puts Mayor Q in a body bag
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 09:14:42 AM
I'm sorry what

Quote
Forbes just released a prediction, saying the NFL Draft will bring more than $100 million to Kansas City!

Quote
The NFL is predicting 300,000 people will be filling the streets of KC


https://www.kctv5.com/2023/04/11/nfl-draft-expected-bring-100m-kansas-city/

That all has to be made up right???

I would reckon if someone goes Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, they count as 3 people. I know a lot of folks in KC who plan on just going down at some point and walking around or whatever. We might do that like the Monday before the draft. 300k doesn't sound crazy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2023, 09:34:15 AM
100k per day still sounds crazy
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 14, 2023, 11:21:00 AM
100k per day still sounds crazy

anybody going in needs to scan in so should be easy for them to report. I can't believe how many I've heard excited locally and traveling in for the draft, in KC. I can see making a trip out of it to Vegas but here? Meh.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2023, 11:26:45 AM
KC is great for a 2 day stay
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 14, 2023, 11:29:46 AM
KC is great for a 2 day stay

Fair. Weird reason to come just to stand on the hill and wait hours for your team to announce their draft pick.

I bet it hits the 300k mark in total attendance, seems crazy to me though. Good for the NFL making something out of nothing.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 14, 2023, 12:50:39 PM
100k per day still sounds crazy

sports fans are bonkers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2023, 12:54:07 PM
100k per day still sounds crazy

sports fans are bonkers

very true, I'm saying this as someone who spent over a thousand bucks to witness two (2) kansas state basketball games with my family

that's not even including the booze drinks
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 14, 2023, 12:56:29 PM
100k per day still sounds crazy

sports fans are bonkers

very true, I'm saying this as someone who spent over a thousand bucks to witness two (2) kansas state basketball games with my family

that's not even including the booze drinks

I still haven't looked at those MSG charges
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 15, 2023, 09:28:29 PM
100k per day still sounds crazy

sports fans are bonkers

very true, I'm saying this as someone who spent over a thousand bucks to witness two (2) kansas state basketball games with my family

that's not even including the booze drinks

I offered to buy you beers!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2023, 06:29:23 PM
Thanks new terminal


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2023, 08:20:23 PM
100k per day still sounds crazy

sports fans are bonkers

very true, I'm saying this as someone who spent over a thousand bucks to witness two (2) kansas state basketball games with my family

that's not even including the booze drinks

I offered to buy you beers!
Ha ha but STILL
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2023, 08:37:33 AM
hopeful that charges come soon

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/17/ralph-yarl-shooting-kansas-city/
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 17, 2023, 08:39:05 AM
hopeful that charges come soon

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/17/ralph-yarl-shooting-kansas-city/

so effed up it's hard to even fathom.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on April 17, 2023, 09:33:06 AM
100k per day still sounds crazy

anybody going in needs to scan in so should be easy for them to report. I can't believe how many I've heard excited locally and traveling in for the draft, in KC. I can see making a trip out of it to Vegas but here? Meh.
Thursday will definitely be a riot. Thinking close to 100k. Biggest Draft footprint in league history.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on April 17, 2023, 09:35:08 AM
hopeful that charges come soon

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/17/ralph-yarl-shooting-kansas-city/

so effed up it's hard to even fathom.
Yeah this stinks and it sucks that he hasn't been charged yet. Dude needs to be charged immediately.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 17, 2023, 09:42:26 AM
The whole "victim can't speak so we can't charge" is the most trash thing I've heard and that's saying something when it comes to KCPD (who once again are the only major city with state appointed board so no real local accountability)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2023, 09:47:23 AM
Can you explain that more about KCPD in regards to state appointed board?  How did they manage that and not St Louis PD?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 17, 2023, 09:54:07 AM
Can you explain that more about KCPD in regards to state appointed board?  How did they manage that and not St Louis PD?

STL got rid of it in 2012 by a vote but looks like the state is trying to take back control. The whole thing goes back a long time of the state overseeing city police forces, not sure  exactly "why" except things like local fraud from Pendergast era?
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/politics/missouri-house-passes-bill-put-st-louis-police-department-under-state-control/63-81b4360f-ec99-4194-9ac2-ba63e7c8613e
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2023, 09:55:57 AM
If it’s in the hands of state politicians in misery I’d say expect the worst outcome possible. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on April 17, 2023, 09:57:40 AM
It can't be anything more than they're the most liberal areas of a far-right state so the state wants control.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2023, 10:16:40 AM
The whole "victim can't speak so we can't charge" is the most trash thing I've heard and that's saying something when it comes to KCPD (who once again are the only major city with state appointed board so no real local accountability)

i could *maybe* understand if there wasn't a perfectly plausible reason for why the victim was there. but in this case there is, because of the mistaken address and picking up siblings.

i'm not to a point of casting stones at KCPD, yet, and am hoping they are just crossing all the T's right now. but they need to move quickly.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 17, 2023, 10:26:06 AM
https://twitter.com/KCTV5/status/1647982442572132353?s=20
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on April 17, 2023, 12:00:42 PM
Can you explain that more about KCPD in regards to state appointed board?  How did they manage that and not St Louis PD?

STL got rid of it in 2012 by a vote but looks like the state is trying to take back control. The whole thing goes back a long time of the state overseeing city police forces, not sure  exactly "why" except things like local fraud from Pendergast era?
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/politics/missouri-house-passes-bill-put-st-louis-police-department-under-state-control/63-81b4360f-ec99-4194-9ac2-ba63e7c8613e
Yeah.  It was to free the local please force from corrupt local influences.  Outdated and unnecessary anymore.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 18, 2023, 09:52:54 PM
Can you explain that more about KCPD in regards to state appointed board?  How did they manage that and not St Louis PD?

STL got rid of it in 2012 by a vote but looks like the state is trying to take back control. The whole thing goes back a long time of the state overseeing city police forces, not sure  exactly "why" except things like local fraud from Pendergast era?
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/politics/missouri-house-passes-bill-put-st-louis-police-department-under-state-control/63-81b4360f-ec99-4194-9ac2-ba63e7c8613e
Yeah.  It was to free the local please force from corrupt local influences.  Outdated and unnecessary anymore.

Yeah, that makes some sense for that time, but not anymore
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 20, 2023, 06:30:45 AM
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1648734762612162583?t=osnWB78moWRqmk9Ltn1fZQ&s=19
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 20, 2023, 01:57:41 PM
the crue is going to be lit
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2023, 12:59:44 PM
lol. lmao

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230414/42baad2f807b4d4649ae76f5fb2a8bc5.jpg)

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1650527533123743744

:love:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 24, 2023, 01:08:26 PM
lol. lmao

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230414/42baad2f807b4d4649ae76f5fb2a8bc5.jpg)

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1650527533123743744

:love:

That union station backdrop.......ha
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2023, 01:39:06 PM
That looks terrible.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 24, 2023, 02:28:31 PM
It's gaudy and overwrought, perfect for the NFL.

Wonder how much $$ the people from Independence who will 300 level it up from Liberty Memorial will spend, cause that seems a lot for them to make it to $100 mill
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on April 24, 2023, 07:40:04 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1650527533123743744

:lol:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 24, 2023, 08:09:50 PM
Those colored windows at the back are the actual Union Station windows so from TV defiantly be able to see US architecture. I think?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 24, 2023, 10:15:06 PM
I understand why they're doing it that way, but it really does take away from the beauty of that spot. I'm still optimistic it will look good on TV.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kim carnes on April 24, 2023, 10:20:55 PM
I understand why they're doing it that way, but it really does take away from the beauty of that spot. I'm still optimistic it will look good on TV.

Sir, this is the nfl draft.  It’s not intended to be a showcase of union station.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 24, 2023, 10:29:38 PM
I understand why they're doing it that way, but it really does take away from the beauty of that spot. I'm still optimistic it will look good on TV.

Sir, this is the nfl draft.  It’s not intended to be a showcase of union station.

It should be!  :curse:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 24, 2023, 11:05:41 PM
It very much looks like the attached an aircraft hanger to the front of union station
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2023, 05:43:57 AM
I understand why they're doing it that way, but it really does take away from the beauty of that spot. I'm still optimistic it will look good on TV.
Do you understand why they need a stage that large? Because I do not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 25, 2023, 09:28:48 AM
I understand why they're doing it that way, but it really does take away from the beauty of that spot. I'm still optimistic it will look good on TV.
Do you understand why they need a stage that large? Because I do not.

It's probably so the backdrop of the city doesn't distract from the tv broadcast.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on April 25, 2023, 09:38:54 AM
This makes it look better

https://twitter.com/UnionStationKC/status/1650853438685696000
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2023, 10:55:46 AM
the nfl is making it very clear that they hate the kc skyline
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate4life on April 25, 2023, 11:26:28 AM
This makes it look better

https://twitter.com/UnionStationKC/status/1650853438685696000

How many drunks are taking a dip this weekend?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2023, 11:53:14 AM
why is the No Fun League canceling our skyline ?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 25, 2023, 02:54:09 PM
just strolled around it and also got my westin wristband for VIPs
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 25, 2023, 03:11:59 PM
do you think official NFL sponsor Ford wants to remind people about trains? of course not. big car strikes again
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 25, 2023, 04:40:48 PM
wondering how the maga boycott of draft sponsored by Bud Light will go?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 25, 2023, 05:02:55 PM
wondering how the maga boycott of draft sponsored by Bud Light will go?

They fired the VP responsible for it.  MAGA got their scalp and I’m sure they are back to pounding bud light pounders.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 26, 2023, 10:03:22 AM
Green room looks good

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2023, 11:02:42 AM
wondering how the maga boycott of draft sponsored by Bud Light will go?

They fired the VP responsible for it.  MAGA got their scalp and I’m sure they are back to pounding bud light pounders.
that didn’t happen
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2023, 06:53:26 PM
Brittany Spencer national anthem with an A-10 flyover? Lol this is the draft
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 27, 2023, 06:59:58 PM
wondering how the maga boycott of draft sponsored by Bud Light will go?

They fired the VP responsible for it.  MAGA got their scalp and I’m sure they are back to pounding bud light pounders.
that didn’t happen

https://apnews.com/article/bud-light-transgender-influencer-partnership-marketing-executive-234ac7cf05d2124ed6ff7162e4771a43 (https://apnews.com/article/bud-light-transgender-influencer-partnership-marketing-executive-234ac7cf05d2124ed6ff7162e4771a43)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on April 27, 2023, 07:23:10 PM
she took a leave of absence because of the death threats.  how does that equal being fired idk
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 27, 2023, 07:23:59 PM
Green room looks good

Ya, looked cool on TV. I haven't got a good look of the stage, but I think the green room may look better.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 27, 2023, 07:25:24 PM
The A10 warthogs that did the flyover at the draft were circling around 75th st from Waldo to Metcalfish for 20 minutes before the flyover. I snapped this extremely elite gE exclusive picture of one of them.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2023, 07:26:07 PM
Union Station looks great actually from the desk angle on espn
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on April 27, 2023, 07:45:56 PM
The WWI memorial looks good when they pan out from the stage, too.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on April 27, 2023, 07:46:50 PM
Best NFL draft ever? Some people are saying yes.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on April 27, 2023, 07:55:21 PM
Yeah everything looks great and the crowd has been awesome


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: CHONGS on April 27, 2023, 07:59:05 PM
Any cats picked yet?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on April 27, 2023, 08:07:46 PM
The audio on TV makes it seem like the crowd is pretty quiet.  On TV it sounded 10 times as loud when they used to do it in NYC indoors.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2023, 08:12:18 AM
Great day 1 with Felix capping it off.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 28, 2023, 11:31:05 AM
I was downtown/at the draft all day yesterday. Was a really good time but man it was a lot of walking to get there.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 28, 2023, 11:35:36 AM
I was downtown/at the draft all day yesterday. Was a really good time but man it was a lot of walking to get there.

yeah it's weird to have to wrap around to the back from downtown. It makes sense to have people enter that way due to that north lawn potentially getting too full like it did yesterday but annoying to start off that way. Streetcar extension just a year (2?) too late would have really helped.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 29, 2023, 10:57:10 AM
Went to the draft last night and it was alot less crowded than thursday night. Some of the best people watching I have ever experienced.

Met these two 40ish year old women next to us wearing 49er's shirts who came down from Des Moines and worked in insurance. I was thinking "Hmm, these people are way too normal for the nfl draft" and then their husbands came back from getting beer and one had neck tats and casually mentioned prison.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on April 29, 2023, 10:59:49 AM
I was there for about an hour then went to the crossroads and spotted the mayor of KC holding court at King G so of course I creeped and grabbed a pic across the bar.

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2023, 11:01:32 AM
So Q.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2023, 11:02:51 AM
I've been down there both days and really not excited to go today but got another friend who hasn't been there and it's so nice out. I'll have a deep cut K-State reference on if you spot it, probably me  :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on April 29, 2023, 05:07:35 PM
Today may have been the best draft day. Less crowded for the draft stage area, great weather, just a general fun party atmosphere. Only bummer was no Deuce selection by KC.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wiley on April 30, 2023, 09:28:24 AM
Today may have been the best draft day. Less crowded for the draft stage area, great weather, just a general fun party atmosphere. Only bummer was no Deuce selection by KC.
We made it down as well and walked around to check out the festivities with no real plan to stay very long.  But as we were leaving, we ended up getting to sit in the VIP section because they were trying to fill empty seats.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on April 30, 2023, 06:18:37 PM
went yesterday, very enjoyable. perfect weather helped. it didn't feel nearly as crowded as i expected, i figured more people would show up saturday even if it was the later rounds. the set up was really cool.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: MakeItRain on May 01, 2023, 05:18:14 AM
4 miles away and expecting a surge? Okay.
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kc-on-the-clock/kansas-city-businesses-express-disappointment-at-lack-of-sales-during-nfl-draft?_amp=true
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 01, 2023, 07:41:59 AM
4 miles away and expecting a surge? Okay.
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kc-on-the-clock/kansas-city-businesses-express-disappointment-at-lack-of-sales-during-nfl-draft?_amp=true

So many food trucks and insulated event that lasted into the evening, I can't imagine a restaurant thinking it was going to be some sort of gangbusters weekend.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2023, 07:47:09 AM
4 miles away and expecting a surge? Okay.
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kc-on-the-clock/kansas-city-businesses-express-disappointment-at-lack-of-sales-during-nfl-draft?_amp=true

So many food trucks and insulated event that lasted into the evening, I can't imagine a restaurant thinking it was going to be some sort of gangbusters weekend.

who is it good for other than hotels maybe? where is that $100 million going?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 01, 2023, 08:24:02 AM
I bet downtown bars did ok.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 01, 2023, 08:26:38 AM
I'm sure the strip clubs did very well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 01, 2023, 08:42:17 AM
I went down there for a little while, I overheard multiple out-of-towners making dinner plans. 

I like to explore different places when I travel, but most travelers prefer convenience, I doubt they were seeking out the kinds of places mentioned in that article.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 01, 2023, 08:45:17 AM
4 miles away and expecting a surge? Okay.
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kc-on-the-clock/kansas-city-businesses-express-disappointment-at-lack-of-sales-during-nfl-draft?_amp=true

So many food trucks and insulated event that lasted into the evening, I can't imagine a restaurant thinking it was going to be some sort of gangbusters weekend.

who is it good for other than hotels maybe? where is that $100 million going?

Ask the people who fairy tail those numbers what their formula is, I always think those are silly #s. Of the people I know "in the biz" the winners this weekend were hotels, sports bars, BBQ, places open late that would serve food. Of course whatever trades built up that stage and PD overtime was probably outrageous as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 01, 2023, 09:08:18 AM
LMAO why would a vintage clothing store think they'd see any sort of revenue increase from the draft?

If you had a restaurant/bar near streetcar or hotels you probably saw an increase, that's about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2023, 09:17:42 AM
LMAO why would a vintage clothing store think they'd see any sort of revenue increase from the draft?


I'm guessing because they were told that 300,000 people would bring in $125 million of revenue?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 01, 2023, 09:29:08 AM
LMAO why would a vintage clothing store think they'd see any sort of revenue increase from the draft?


I'm guessing because they were told that 300,000 people would bring in $125 million of revenue?

Still find it ridiculous that stores that are typically not a destination where out-of-towners would spend money, are pissed at the government/mayor for this. Very small town thinking. People came here to do one thing, go to the draft, where they have food and booze available literally all day long. I'm sure $100 mil was spent, but it was spent at the draft and on hotels/lodging.

Did these biz owners expect the mayor to line out how the money was going to be spent? Knowing/anticipating your demo is a massive part of owning a business, having a down weekend sucks, but it's part of owning a business.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 01, 2023, 09:39:30 AM
who cares, we're getting real recycle bins you guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2023, 10:07:26 AM
who cares, we're getting real recycle bins you guys

Hallelujah
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 01, 2023, 10:20:30 AM
Canco the Westin did very well. 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 01, 2023, 10:22:43 AM
who cares, we're getting real recycle bins you guys

I opted out of that ish.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2023, 11:25:01 AM
I wish it was trash instead but you have to start somewhere
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on May 01, 2023, 11:27:51 AM
rental car companies kicked ass and took names
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 01, 2023, 11:28:11 AM
I wish it was trash instead but you have to start somewhere

I think I saw they were doing trash ones immediately following.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2023, 11:29:25 AM
rental car companies kicked ass and took names

I was going to say Uber drivers.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 02, 2023, 02:14:42 PM
rental car companies kicked ass and took names

I was going to say Uber drivers.
Rates were surprisingly the same as what they normally are. I think I paid $18 for a ride down to the crossroads at 4 and $22 for the ride back around 10.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 02, 2023, 02:24:08 PM
rental car companies kicked ass and took names

I was going to say Uber drivers.
Rates were surprisingly the same as what they normally are. I think I paid $18 for a ride down to the crossroads at 4 and $22 for the ride back around 10.

imagine the streetcar numbers
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on May 03, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
Bird or link scooters were up something like 750% per the news the other night
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 05, 2023, 11:00:11 PM
I've owned a couple so have experience. I haven't looked on the market for a couple years though so not really up to date on what's a good deal out there. I'd avoid the cluster of buildings around 8th and locust. Heard nothing good about their HOA health. Whatever tier and Western auto recently in the news for misleading HOA management (the two you mentioned) but I think they are still healthier if you see a good deal and do your research.

Not a ton of options in KC for condos.
Happy to help with any specific questions. Tall building with elevators tend to get expensive fast with maintenance.

Been a hot minute but under contract in River Market with a condo viewing downtown. Very excited. Pretty decent HOA, building, price, amenities, and view. Should be an easy walk to anywhere in River Market. Will be great to be in when I'm back.

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 06, 2023, 07:28:24 AM
I've owned a couple so have experience. I haven't looked on the market for a couple years though so not really up to date on what's a good deal out there. I'd avoid the cluster of buildings around 8th and locust. Heard nothing good about their HOA health. Whatever tier and Western auto recently in the news for misleading HOA management (the two you mentioned) but I think they are still healthier if you see a good deal and do your research.

Not a ton of options in KC for condos.
Happy to help with any specific questions. Tall building with elevators tend to get expensive fast with maintenance.


Been a hot minute but under contract in River Market with a condo viewing downtown. Very excited. Pretty decent HOA, building, price, amenities and view. Should be an easy walk to anywhere in River Market. Will be great to be in when I'm back.

Sounds like an amazing place to be a young KSU cat on the prowl.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 06, 2023, 09:34:40 AM
value should increase pretty nicely when they break ground on the stadium in your backyard
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 06, 2023, 10:04:30 AM
The ground has already been broken
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 06, 2023, 07:41:49 PM
I've owned a couple so have experience. I haven't looked on the market for a couple years though so not really up to date on what's a good deal out there. I'd avoid the cluster of buildings around 8th and locust. Heard nothing good about their HOA health. Whatever tier and Western auto recently in the news for misleading HOA management (the two you mentioned) but I think they are still healthier if you see a good deal and do your research.

Not a ton of options in KC for condos.
Happy to help with any specific questions. Tall building with elevators tend to get expensive fast with maintenance.


Been a hot minute but under contract in River Market with a condo viewing downtown. Very excited. Pretty decent HOA, building, price, amenities and view. Should be an easy walk to anywhere in River Market. Will be great to be in when I'm back.

Sounds like an amazing place to be a young KSU cat on the prowl.

Yessir that is the hope

value should increase pretty nicely when they break ground on the stadium in your backyard

That too
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2023, 05:48:46 AM
Welcome.neighbor! Based on your description and what has been available think I could guess where you are. DM me and we can meet up at Harry's sometime.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on May 08, 2023, 01:59:07 PM
Welcome.neighbor! Based on your description and what has been available think I could guess where you are. DM me and we can meet up at Harry's sometime.

Absolutely, I bet you probably can. I will say I am still out of country and while i will be in and out a lot of the rest of the year if you see a DM head your way I will be in town.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 11, 2023, 07:15:06 PM
who cares, we're getting real recycle bins you guys

Hallelujah
It's so effing big lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 11, 2023, 07:36:59 PM
i'm not in KCMO anymore but rolling recycle bins would have been pretty inconvenient as i didn't have a driveway or garage and there were two small flights of stairs to my front door. do they allow people to opt out and keep using the smaller bins?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 11, 2023, 07:52:18 PM
Pretty sure yes
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 12, 2023, 08:24:45 AM
i'm not in KCMO anymore but rolling recycle bins would have been pretty inconvenient as i didn't have a driveway or garage and there were two small flights of stairs to my front door. do they allow people to opt out and keep using the smaller bins?

probably but your trash person will hate the crap out of you for making him get out of the truck.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2023, 08:30:11 AM
i'm not in KCMO anymore but rolling recycle bins would have been pretty inconvenient as i didn't have a driveway or garage and there were two small flights of stairs to my front door. do they allow people to opt out and keep using the smaller bins?

probably but your trash person will hate the crap out of you for making him get out of the truck.

are you saying the new bins are emptied with like a mechanical claw or something operated from the truck?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 12, 2023, 08:46:41 AM
i'm not in KCMO anymore but rolling recycle bins would have been pretty inconvenient as i didn't have a driveway or garage and there were two small flights of stairs to my front door. do they allow people to opt out and keep using the smaller bins?

probably but your trash person will hate the crap out of you for making him get out of the truck.

are you saying the new bins are emptied with like a mechanical claw or something operated from the truck?

Sorry, don't live in MO. That is how its done in my hood. Driver pulls up, drives his claw thingy to my bins and then sets them back down in the middle of my driveway so its hard for me to pull back in if i'm not home. If you don't use the approved trash cans, he has to get out and pick it up and throw in the truck. He then throws that can in the middle of my driveway.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 12, 2023, 08:47:57 AM
yep i imagine they will be loaded via truck claw now. and i realllly doubt the workers will stop and get out of the truck if needed, unless it's a stated expectation that both bins are accepted.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2023, 08:54:13 AM
That seems so slow compared to the current setup. Probably works well in the suburbs where the houses are farther apart I guess
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 12, 2023, 08:55:43 AM
i'm not in KCMO anymore but rolling recycle bins would have been pretty inconvenient as i didn't have a driveway or garage and there were two small flights of stairs to my front door. do they allow people to opt out and keep using the smaller bins?

Which 'burb you in now?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 12, 2023, 08:59:53 AM
OP! farther south than 25 year old 'blast would ever believe.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 12, 2023, 09:16:58 AM
OP! farther south than 25 year old 'blast would ever believe.

Good for you. We live in Mission which is old burbs and closer to the city, but still burbs. We've liked it but always miss KCMO. Either in the city or the burbs or wherever you make sacrifices and miss out on things.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 12, 2023, 09:44:57 AM
I am moving to Independence which is much safer than where I live now just east of the stadium. Still only 10 minutes east of work and have everything I need to live in like 3 minutes from me. Still only 15 minutes from downtown and I always park and take the streetcar always. I am looking forward to the expansion of the streetcar.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2023, 09:51:31 AM
 :sdeek:  please start an Independence things thread. it's a whole world i know virtually nothing about
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 12, 2023, 09:54:31 AM
Independence is what Topeka wishes it could be
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 12, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
I am moving to Independence which is much safer than where I live now just east of the stadium. Still only 10 minutes east of work and have everything I need to live in like 3 minutes from me. Still only 15 minutes from downtown and I always park and take the streetcar always. I am looking forward to the expansion of the streetcar.


where do you live now???
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 12, 2023, 10:05:11 AM
I am moving to Independence which is much safer than where I live now just east of the stadium. Still only 10 minutes east of work and have everything I need to live in like 3 minutes from me. Still only 15 minutes from downtown and I always park and take the streetcar always. I am looking forward to the expansion of the streetcar.


where do you live now???
I live in an apartment complex off of 43rd St and Sterling along the Highway 40 corridor. The Walmart has been car bombed since I moved in last June and the apartment complex I live in now has a lake that they found some bodies in the lake like 3 months before I moved in last year before my internship.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 12, 2023, 10:07:12 AM
I am moving to Independence which is much safer than where I live now just east of the stadium. Still only 10 minutes east of work and have everything I need to live in like 3 minutes from me. Still only 15 minutes from downtown and I always park and take the streetcar always. I am looking forward to the expansion of the streetcar.


where do you live now???
I live in an apartment complex off of 43rd St and Sterling along the Highway 40 corridor. The Walmart has been car bombed since I moved in last June and the apartment complex I live in now has a lake that they found some bodies in the lake like 3 months before I moved in last year before my internship.

huh I assumed everything east of the stadium was Independence
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 12, 2023, 10:19:56 AM
greg you is in danger get out of there
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 12, 2023, 10:22:43 AM
I am moving to Independence which is much safer than where I live now just east of the stadium. Still only 10 minutes east of work and have everything I need to live in like 3 minutes from me. Still only 15 minutes from downtown and I always park and take the streetcar always. I am looking forward to the expansion of the streetcar.


where do you live now???
I live in an apartment complex off of 43rd St and Sterling along the Highway 40 corridor. The Walmart has been car bombed since I moved in last June and the apartment complex I live in now has a lake that they found some bodies in the lake like 3 months before I moved in last year before my internship.

huh I assumed everything east of the stadium was Independence
nah I have a KCMO address. Its rough. The boundaries are weird AF
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 12, 2023, 10:24:33 AM
I have a video on my phone where a guy in the street (Across the lake) was firing an automatic weapon into the air on NYE last year then the shots started coming my way so I went back into my apartment off of my balcony. Someone said they called the cops, the cops never came.  :Ugh:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 12, 2023, 10:45:36 AM
jesus greg get out of there while you still can
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 12, 2023, 10:55:46 AM
I am moving to Independence which is much safer than where I live now just east of the stadium. Still only 10 minutes east of work and have everything I need to live in like 3 minutes from me. Still only 15 minutes from downtown and I always park and take the streetcar always. I am looking forward to the expansion of the streetcar.


where do you live now???
I live in an apartment complex off of 43rd St and Sterling along the Highway 40 corridor. The Walmart has been car bombed since I moved in last June and the apartment complex I live in now has a lake that they found some bodies in the lake like 3 months before I moved in last year before my internship.

huh I assumed everything east of the stadium was Independence

look at fancy pants over here guys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 12, 2023, 11:00:05 AM
I am moving to Independence which is much safer than where I live now just east of the stadium. Still only 10 minutes east of work and have everything I need to live in like 3 minutes from me. Still only 15 minutes from downtown and I always park and take the streetcar always. I am looking forward to the expansion of the streetcar.


where do you live now???
I live in an apartment complex off of 43rd St and Sterling along the Highway 40 corridor. The Walmart has been car bombed since I moved in last June and the apartment complex I live in now has a lake that they found some bodies in the lake like 3 months before I moved in last year before my internship.

huh I assumed everything east of the stadium was Independence

look at fancy pants over here guys
I have had an Independence, MO address in my lifetime
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2023, 11:27:50 AM
i also assumed that everything east of the stadiums was independence. but there is a small pocket of KCMO tucked between Ind. and raytown
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on May 12, 2023, 11:29:23 AM
Jesus, you're in greg danger. Get out now.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 12, 2023, 12:22:45 PM
Jesus, you're in greg danger. Get out now.
Yuh
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on May 24, 2023, 09:55:20 PM
Yeah, crap Greg I hope you are saving a ton on rent.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2023, 08:45:17 AM
i'm not in KCMO anymore but rolling recycle bins would have been pretty inconvenient as i didn't have a driveway or garage and there were two small flights of stairs to my front door. do they allow people to opt out and keep using the smaller bins?

probably but your trash person will hate the crap out of you for making him get out of the truck.

Late on this thread but ours came this week and you can opt out. They came and took mine back this week too. I'm using the old style, these things suck for any kind of urban housing styles.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 25, 2023, 12:06:52 PM
do they still have guys on the back of the trucks to grab the old bins
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2023, 02:33:47 PM
do they still have guys on the back of the trucks to grab the old bins

I sure hope so that's what I'm going to keep using and they said that was cool to use.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 25, 2023, 03:51:43 PM
do they still have guys on the back of the trucks to grab the old bins

I sure hope so that's what I'm going to keep using and they said that was cool to use.

Nope, it will prob just be one pissed off driver that has to get out of his truck at Phil's house.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2023, 04:12:51 PM
do they still have guys on the back of the trucks to grab the old bins

I sure hope so that's what I'm going to keep using and they said that was cool to use.

Nope, it will prob just be one pissed off driver that has to get out of his truck at Phil's house.

There is going to be a crap ton of those. I bet 60% of housing from the riverfront to plaza that gets KCMO trash service is going to hate these suburban bins and no real way to store/move them to the curb every week.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 25, 2023, 04:14:59 PM
We get it guy, you're too cool for the bins
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 25, 2023, 04:22:42 PM
living in suburb bin paradise now. still getting used to the fact that i can just throw trash in the bin, doesn't even need to fit in a bag. glorious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2023, 04:34:36 PM
We get it guy, you're too cool for the bins

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 25, 2023, 04:35:53 PM
living in suburb bin paradise now. still getting used to the fact that i can just throw trash in the bin, doesn't even need to fit in a bag. glorious.

The city trash process is so mumped
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 25, 2023, 04:54:08 PM
just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 25, 2023, 05:01:15 PM
just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.

https://goo.gl/maps/kfKw5T9TbK9MjfAR6

(not my house doxxers)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 25, 2023, 06:47:18 PM
just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.
There is nowhere to put it man, it is comically large
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 26, 2023, 06:34:54 AM
Build a little nook for it somewhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 8manpick on May 26, 2023, 09:02:58 AM
Man, Chicago alleyways win again. Always leave the bins in the exact same spot. I don’t even know what days they pick up trash and recycling to be honest.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2023, 09:30:53 AM
idk why alleyways are so rare in 1920's-30's kc neighborhoods. st louis has them everywhere.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 26, 2023, 09:38:01 AM
just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.

https://goo.gl/maps/kfKw5T9TbK9MjfAR6

(not my house doxxers)
i should hope not! lol wtf are those windows? 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on May 26, 2023, 09:38:54 AM
maybe they should store the garbage can on their roof lmao
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2023, 10:11:38 AM
just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.

https://goo.gl/maps/kfKw5T9TbK9MjfAR6

(not my house doxxers)
i should hope not! lol wtf are those windows?

those appear to be arrowslits (katdaddy no!)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2023, 12:48:02 PM
idk why alleyways are so rare in 1920's-30's kc neighborhoods. st louis has them everywhere.

Yeah really strange. My alley in Topeka ruled
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 29, 2023, 04:21:31 PM
just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.

https://goo.gl/maps/kfKw5T9TbK9MjfAR6

(not my house doxxers)
i should hope not! lol wtf are those windows?
Ironically that looks like a perfectly reasonable house to accommodate rolling bins. Just put them between the house and the fence!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 29, 2023, 07:54:39 PM
just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.

https://goo.gl/maps/kfKw5T9TbK9MjfAR6

(not my house doxxers)
i should hope not! lol wtf are those windows?
Ironically that looks like a perfectly reasonable house to accommodate rolling bins. Just put them between the house and the fence!

City code doesn't allow for garbage bins to be seen from the street. That's what people will/are doing though in this situation.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 29, 2023, 07:55:59 PM


just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.

https://goo.gl/maps/kfKw5T9TbK9MjfAR6

(not my house doxxers)
i should hope not! lol wtf are those windows?
Ironically that looks like a perfectly reasonable house to accommodate rolling bins. Just put them between the house and the fence!

City code doesn't allow for garbage bins to be seen from the street.

Lol what on earth
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on May 29, 2023, 07:59:08 PM
1019 E Missouri Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/acyZvxqVvMnUGAj87
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 29, 2023, 08:52:32 PM


just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.

https://goo.gl/maps/kfKw5T9TbK9MjfAR6

(not my house doxxers)
i should hope not! lol wtf are those windows?
Ironically that looks like a perfectly reasonable house to accommodate rolling bins. Just put them between the house and the fence!

City code doesn't allow for garbage bins to be seen from the street.

Lol what on earth
Same way in Overland Park. My parents and their neighbors split trash because they are old's, they would just keep the trash bins on the side of the garage between the 2 houses.

They got a letter from the city code department about it so my dad bought some cheap looking "privacy fence" type thing that is about 5ft high and 3ft long that protects the trash cans from view of the street
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 29, 2023, 08:57:38 PM




just use the bin, Phil.  ffs.  how about some civic unity here.

https://goo.gl/maps/kfKw5T9TbK9MjfAR6

(not my house doxxers)
i should hope not! lol wtf are those windows?
Ironically that looks like a perfectly reasonable house to accommodate rolling bins. Just put them between the house and the fence!

City code doesn't allow for garbage bins to be seen from the street.

Lol what on earth
Same way in Overland Park. My parents and their neighbors split trash because they are old's, they would just keep the trash bins on the side of the garage between the 2 houses.

They got a letter from the city code department about it so my dad bought some cheap looking "privacy fence" type thing that is about 5ft high and 3ft long that protects the trash cans from view of the street

I get it in overland park, not in KC
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2023, 11:43:11 AM
They also don't allow you to use bins, only 2 bags laying on the ground where animals or weather rip them open. It's so bad. Doing recycling first is also lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on May 30, 2023, 11:48:41 AM
They also don't allow you to use bins, only 2 bags laying on the ground where animals or weather rip them open. It's so bad. Doing recycling first is also lol.

this is why having trash bins is top 5 in the Pro column since moving to the suburbs. example yesterday had some people over, ordered 3 large pizzas from Minsky's. you're not supposed to recycle grease-stained pizza boxes so i like to split them in half and put the bottom half (greasy) in the trash, top half goes in recycling.

being able to to just throw what i need in the bin it needs to go into, rather than having to deal with everything going into trash bags, is very nice.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on May 30, 2023, 12:06:22 PM
Probably belongs in the white people thread, but has anyone gotten their trash cans cleaned? I’m considering it. Ours smell terrible in the summer.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 30, 2023, 12:10:47 PM
How much do you get charged for a trash bin cleaning?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2023, 12:48:57 PM
Throw in some bleach and hose it out
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on May 30, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
Would have to be considerably cheaper than just getting a replacement bin
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on May 30, 2023, 03:42:27 PM
Probably belongs in the white people thread, but has anyone gotten their trash cans cleaned? I’m considering it. Ours smell terrible in the summer.
Just hose out the inside when they are empty.   Clean the inside with a toilet brush or something if you are feeling extra ambitious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on May 30, 2023, 04:15:01 PM
rent/borrow a power washer and clean your massive sidewalks and driveways at the same time
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on May 30, 2023, 06:27:02 PM
They also don't allow you to use bins, only 2 bags laying on the ground where animals or weather rip them open. It's so bad. Doing recycling first is also lol.

this is why having trash bins is top 5 in the Pro column since moving to the suburbs. example yesterday had some people over, ordered 3 large pizzas from Minsky's. you're not supposed to recycle grease-stained pizza boxes so i like to split them in half and put the bottom half (greasy) in the trash, top half goes in recycling.

being able to to just throw what i need in the bin it needs to go into, rather than having to deal with everything going into trash bags, is very nice.

you can recycle your pizza boxes

https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/yes-you-can-recycle-your-pizza-boxes

also note the local squawk connection in the linked post
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2023, 11:55:31 PM
wtf are you guys exporting to my trashy western Kansas town?

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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on June 01, 2023, 07:45:15 AM
They also don't allow you to use bins, only 2 bags laying on the ground where animals or weather rip them open. It's so bad. Doing recycling first is also lol.

this is why having trash bins is top 5 in the Pro column since moving to the suburbs. example yesterday had some people over, ordered 3 large pizzas from Minsky's. you're not supposed to recycle grease-stained pizza boxes so i like to split them in half and put the bottom half (greasy) in the trash, top half goes in recycling.

being able to to just throw what i need in the bin it needs to go into, rather than having to deal with everything going into trash bags, is very nice.

you can recycle your pizza boxes

https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/yes-you-can-recycle-your-pizza-boxes

also note the local squawk connection in the linked post

whether you can and whether kcmo allows it and will take it appear to be two different things

https://www.kcmo.gov/city-hall/trash/recycling

Quote
Items you can recycle:
Pizza boxes (No food. If there are grease stains, trash it.)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 01, 2023, 09:39:31 AM
rent/borrow a power washer and clean your massive sidewalks and driveways at the same time

I don't have sidewalks in my neighborhood  :cry:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 01, 2023, 09:40:10 AM
rent/borrow a power washer and clean your massive sidewalks and driveways at the same time

I don't have sidewalks in my neighborhood  :cry:
You probably have one from the driveway to the front door!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 01, 2023, 09:41:40 AM
How much do you get charged for a trash bin cleaning?

The company my neighbor uses is $150/yr for 12 cleans.

Have not looked into how much it costs to just get new bins.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: michigancat on June 01, 2023, 09:54:24 AM
How much do you get charged for a trash bin cleaning?

The company my neighbor uses is $150/yr for 12 cleans.

Have not looked into how much it costs to just get new bins.

wtf lol

when I had a rolling bin in California we could get a free one every year. The only one that ever smelled enough to notice was compost because the trash was in bags and the recycling was pretty clean.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 01, 2023, 12:33:05 PM
Unless you are throwing away something ungodly on a regular basis the 12 cleans a year seems like massive overkill.  The cost is basically nothing though so I guess YOLO.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: KCFDcat on June 01, 2023, 07:40:22 PM
Unless you are throwing away something ungodly on a regular basis the 12 cleans a year seems like massive overkill.  The cost is basically nothing though so I guess YOLO.

Yeah I think if I did it I’d just do a single clean for like $25. My bins are probably 10+ yrs old and we’re pretty rank when we inherited them from the previous owners.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2023, 08:53:50 PM
swing by the old fire station with those bad boys
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2023, 10:31:31 AM
we had a coyote on our ring camera
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 02, 2023, 12:04:49 PM
Did it look like it had rabies or just cruising for an easy city rabbit meal
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 02, 2023, 12:38:53 PM
Jazzoo tonight. First one (I'm attending) post-covid!  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2023, 02:00:50 PM
Did it look like it had rabies or just cruising for an easy city rabbit meal
definitely not rabid, looked well put together
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on June 02, 2023, 02:56:05 PM
Did it look like it had rabies or just cruising for an easy city rabbit meal
definitely not rabid, looked well put together

functionally rabid
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on June 02, 2023, 03:02:09 PM
Hopefully ‘clams domestic pets aren’t on the menu
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2023, 03:15:50 PM
Hopefully ‘clams domestic pets aren’t on the menu
it’s the owls that i’m most concerned about, but hopefully mr coyote isn’t into clams’ pets
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on June 03, 2023, 06:39:19 AM
 :shy: :shy: :shy:The coyote wants to be a clams pet.  And honestly, can you blame him?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 03, 2023, 08:49:48 AM
I would put some food out for him clams.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: kstate4life on June 06, 2023, 12:56:00 PM
James Beard runner up for Most Outstanding Bar in America:

https://goo.gl/maps/qyeM8cLEnnktvWgz7
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ChiComCat on June 07, 2023, 08:26:22 AM
James Beard runner up for Most Outstanding Bar in America:

https://goo.gl/maps/qyeM8cLEnnktvWgz7

They did a Hannukah theme in December and it was really good.  One of our party was sober so they asked him what he normally likes to drink and made him a mocktail based on those flavors.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2023, 05:59:13 PM
his house in loch lloyd must be complete


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1257-W-57th-St-Kansas-City-MO-64113/2353057_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 08, 2023, 04:55:16 PM
The Spider-Man exhibit at union station right now is super sick. Also holy eff where there a lot of swifties there today
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on July 09, 2023, 07:30:10 PM
blackhole bakery makes very good pastries
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 19, 2023, 09:20:20 AM
Yellow Freight may file for bankruptcy.

Cerner Oracle

Sprint T-Mobile

I think that leaves Seaboard as the sole KC based Fortune 500 company.  5 companies in KC in the 501 to 1000, but one is a public utility monopoly, I don't really count that. 

Shithole St. Louis has 8 Fortune 500 companies HDQTR there. 

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2023, 09:33:39 AM
Yellow Freight may file for bankruptcy.

Cerner Oracle

Sprint T-Mobile

I think that leaves Seaboard as the sole KC based Fortune 500 company.  5 companies in KC in the 501 to 1000, but one is a public utility monopoly, I don't really count that. 

Shithole St. Louis has 8 Fortune 500 companies HDQTR there.
How many for Omaha?


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 19, 2023, 10:32:18 AM
I prefer my corporations in the 1B to 5B in total revenue range.
Title: Kansas City things
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2023, 10:55:48 AM
Yellow Freight may file for bankruptcy.

Cerner Oracle

Sprint T-Mobile

I think that leaves Seaboard as the sole KC based Fortune 500 company.  5 companies in KC in the 501 to 1000, but one is a public utility monopoly, I don't really count that. 

Shithole St. Louis has 8 Fortune 500 companies HDQTR there.
How many for Omaha?


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Checked myself. 7 in 500 and 4 more in 1,000 but TD is one of those 4 and obviously is now Schwab so that doesn’t count. Also, while Pacific Life and AFLAC are based here they don’t have a huge footprint here relative to their largest offices. So I don’t think either of those should be included in the 7 either.


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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2023, 10:59:50 AM
Makes sense, Kansas City has nothing to offer
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2023, 03:00:08 PM
Hr block not top 500?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 19, 2023, 03:08:19 PM
Hr block not top 500?
They used to be but are now in the “extended Fortune 500”
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2023, 03:10:01 PM
Also wtf is an ocean logistics company doing in kc lol.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 19, 2023, 09:54:22 PM
Also wtf is an ocean logistics company doing in kc lol.

Seaboard is a pork producer I believe
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on July 19, 2023, 10:30:50 PM
Also wtf is an ocean logistics company doing in kc lol.

Seaboard is a pork producer I believe
You both are right.  And they have a grain trading division as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2023, 09:44:23 AM
Yellow Freight may file for bankruptcy.

Cerner Oracle

Sprint T-Mobile

I think that leaves Seaboard as the sole KC based Fortune 500 company.  5 companies in KC in the 501 to 1000, but one is a public utility monopoly, I don't really count that. 

Shithole St. Louis has 8 Fortune 500 companies HDQTR there.

Tells you all you need to know about using F500 as a city gauge. 

1   New York, NY   43
2   Houston, TX   21
3   Atlanta, GA   15
4   Chicago, IL   14
5   Dallas, TX   11
6 (tie)   Irving, TX   8
6 (tie)   San Francisco, CA   8
8 (tie)   Charlotte, NC   7
8 (tie)   Pittsburgh, PA   7
8 (tie)   San Jose, CA   7
8 (tie)   Seattle, WA   7
12 (tie)   Boston, MA   6
12 (tie)   Cincinnati, OH   6
12 (tie)   Minneapolis, MN   6
12 (tie)   Richmond, VA   6
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2023, 09:51:34 AM
Dax, were you using the stl metro to get to 8?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2023, 10:12:41 AM
Dax, were you using the stl metro to get to 8?

that list was supposedly metro but I only found one and pasted it. no idea it's validity. It's overall a dumb measure of a city/metro IMO
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 20, 2023, 11:56:58 AM
new york is so damn elite
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 20, 2023, 12:12:13 PM
Not combining Dallas and Irving is hilarious.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on July 20, 2023, 12:22:01 PM
Not combining Dallas and Irving is hilarious.

It feels like a personal affront, especially considering Plano is most likely being included in the Dallas number.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on July 20, 2023, 12:29:13 PM
Fort Worth and their singular Fortune 500 company can kick rocks tho
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2023, 12:34:48 PM
Dax, were you using the stl metro to get to 8?

that list was supposedly metro but I only found one and pasted it. no idea it's validity. It's overall a dumb measure of a city/metro IMO

Irving is part of the Dallas and/or DFW metro no matter how you slice it
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 21, 2023, 08:58:25 AM
Dax, were you using the stl metro to get to 8?

Yes,

Metro area, just like with YF and Sprint

Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on August 28, 2023, 02:04:36 PM
Went to Lonnie's Reno Club on Saturday night with my whole family.  Can't believe this thing isn't more widely known.

Basically it's a pre fixe dinner with a show in the basement of the Ambassador hotel.  Food is pretty good, but the show is something else.  It's a 4-piece jazz band (with some world-class musicians), fronted by the titular Lonnie McFadden, who sings, dances, and plays trumpet.  Between songs he engages with the audience (the venue seats probably 50 or 60) and talks about the history of KC's jazz scene.  The show and dinner is about 3 hours or so.  It's not a cheap night out, but one of the most fun and unique experiences I've ever had in Kansas City.

If you're looking for an evening out with a date, or something to do with a visiting out-of-towner, this comes highly, highly recommended.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Fldermaus on August 28, 2023, 02:07:50 PM
Went to Lonnie's Reno Club on Saturday night with my whole family.  Can't believe this thing isn't more widely known.

Basically it's a pre fixe dinner with a show in the basement of the Ambassador hotel.  Food is pretty good, but the show is something else.  It's a 4-piece jazz band (with some world-class musicians), fronted by the titular Lonnie McFadden, who sings, dances, and plays trumpet.  Between songs he engages with the audience (the venue seats probably 50 or 60) and talks about the history of KC's jazz scene.  The show and dinner is about 3 hours or so.  It's not a cheap night out, but one of the most fun and unique experiences I've ever had in Kansas City.

If you're looking for an evening out with a date, or something to do with a visiting out-of-towner, this comes highly, highly recommended.

This looks awesome -- gotta check it out. Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on August 28, 2023, 02:19:07 PM
Went to Lonnie's Reno Club on Saturday night with my whole family.  Can't believe this thing isn't more widely known.

Basically it's a pre fixe dinner with a show in the basement of the Ambassador hotel.  Food is pretty good, but the show is something else.  It's a 4-piece jazz band (with some world-class musicians), fronted by the titular Lonnie McFadden, who sings, dances, and plays trumpet.  Between songs he engages with the audience (the venue seats probably 50 or 60) and talks about the history of KC's jazz scene.  The show and dinner is about 3 hours or so.  It's not a cheap night out, but one of the most fun and unique experiences I've ever had in Kansas City.

If you're looking for an evening out with a date, or something to do with a visiting out-of-towner, this comes highly, highly recommended.

This looks awesome -- gotta check it out. Thanks for the tip.

Prix fixe, btw. (Je t'en prie.) That sounds awesome, though. I went to a similar setup in the real Manhattan. Questlove and Common (known uncle killer) randomly stopped in and joined in the jams. It was also in the basement of a hotel!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on August 28, 2023, 07:09:24 PM
RIP Al Latta. Can't imagine Cigar Box survives
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on September 28, 2023, 08:15:09 AM
Not sure if anyone plays "where taken" but basically it shows you a photo and you guess what state....here was today's photo(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230928/a8c6e7dc369d18700c646d25da656179.jpg)
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on September 28, 2023, 09:15:05 AM
add Tay Tay to that everyone will know where that is
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: 'taterblast on October 26, 2023, 10:14:09 AM
today i learned that KS asseses property taxes when you renew your vehicle, while MO assesses on Jan. 1 of each year, no matter what happens after. so if you move from MO to KS you get to double up on car taxes that year!
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2023, 10:21:07 AM
assuming there is a waiver or something if you've already paid in one state
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Cire on October 26, 2023, 01:15:16 PM
today i learned that KS asseses property taxes when you renew your vehicle, while MO assesses on Jan. 1 of each year, no matter what happens after. so if you move from MO to KS you get to double up on car taxes that year!

can you get it refunded during tax time?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Phil Titola on October 26, 2023, 01:50:10 PM
today i learned that KS asseses property taxes when you renew your vehicle, while MO assesses on Jan. 1 of each year, no matter what happens after. so if you move from MO to KS you get to double up on car taxes that year!

If you go KS to MO they have a statement of non-assessment you get showing you didn't owe one year. I'd assume KS has something similar but maybe not?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Trim on December 05, 2023, 10:58:52 PM
Country stampede.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on December 06, 2023, 11:01:35 AM
Country stampede.
It was inevitable
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: ben ji on January 04, 2024, 07:51:46 PM
Just happened today at a Walmart in Joco.

Random girl on phone looking confused "excuse me, do you know where the wine is?"

Ben ji "no wine here, you can only buy wine in liquor stores in KS, Walmart just has beer"

Random girl "wait, what state am I in? Sorry I just moved here and could have sworn I bought wine at Walmart the other day"

(Ben ji briefly explains MO vs KS liquor laws)

Random girl to the person she is talking to on the phone "Well apparently I'm in KANSAS and have to go to another place to get wine but I'll see you soon"
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 04, 2024, 08:50:21 PM
LOL

If you rank the states from most frequently people do not know they are there to least frequently not know they are there, I feel like we come in at the bottom just above Hawaii and Alaska.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 07, 2024, 11:20:42 AM
Maybe I’m confused, but I’m guessing if you’re in Hawaii or Alaska, you really know you’re in Hawaii or Alaska.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2024, 12:20:24 PM
Maybe I’m confused, but I’m guessing if you’re in Hawaii or Alaska, you really know you’re in Hawaii or Alaska.
That too. But more precisely, folks don’t just inadvertently wander into those states very frequently.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on January 07, 2024, 05:57:48 PM
Maybe I’m confused, but I’m guessing if you’re in Hawaii or Alaska, you really know you’re in Hawaii or Alaska.
That too. But more precisely, folks don’t just inadvertently wander into those states very frequently.

Maybe I'm not following you, but I think you're saying, "If you're in Kansas, you definitely know you're in Kansas." But this story is an object lesson in why that's not the case. I would say any large-ish metro areas that span borders is prone to this kind of confusion. I mean shoot, I once found myself in Pittsburgh, PA thinking I was in West Virginia.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: IPA4Me on January 07, 2024, 06:04:22 PM
Maybe I’m confused, but I’m guessing if you’re in Hawaii or Alaska, you really know you’re in Hawaii or Alaska.
That too. But more precisely, folks don’t just inadvertently wander into those states very frequently.

Maybe I'm not following you, but I think you're saying, "If you're in Kansas, you definitely know you're in Kansas." But this story is an object lesson in why that's not the case. I would say any large-ish metro areas that span borders is prone to this kind of confusion. I mean shoot, I once found myself in Pittsburgh, PA thinking I was in West Virginia.
You also think basketball was invented at KU. So, I can see how you'd be confused there as well.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on January 07, 2024, 06:05:58 PM
Maybe I’m confused, but I’m guessing if you’re in Hawaii or Alaska, you really know you’re in Hawaii or Alaska.
That too. But more precisely, folks don’t just inadvertently wander into those states very frequently.

Maybe I'm not following you, but I think you're saying, "If you're in Kansas, you definitely know you're in Kansas." But this story is an object lesson in why that's not the case. I would say any large-ish metro areas that span borders is prone to this kind of confusion. I mean shoot, I once found myself in Pittsburgh, PA thinking I was in West Virginia.
You also think basketball was invented at KU. So, I can see how you'd be confused there as well.

Basketball was for sure invented at KU. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 08, 2024, 10:17:23 AM
Maybe I’m confused, but I’m guessing if you’re in Hawaii or Alaska, you really know you’re in Hawaii or Alaska.
That too. But more precisely, folks don’t just inadvertently wander into those states very frequently.

Maybe I'm not following you, but I think you're saying, "If you're in Kansas, you definitely know you're in Kansas." But this story is an object lesson in why that's not the case. I would say any large-ish metro areas that span borders is prone to this kind of confusion. I mean shoot, I once found myself in Pittsburgh, PA thinking I was in West Virginia.
I'm with you.  I don't know what Pete is talking about.  WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, PETE
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2024, 11:16:01 AM
i assume Pete said it backwards. i mean at the north and south ends of STATE LINE ROAD, the road swerves into kansas and changes its name (Eaton / Kenneth) and nobody even notices
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: DQ12 on January 08, 2024, 12:16:58 PM
maybe it finally happened.  maybe old man Pete finally lost his mind.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Spracne on January 08, 2024, 03:08:52 PM
He's probably responding on a different bbs thinking it's gE  :Wha:
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 08, 2024, 04:30:12 PM
It's about the HOW not the WHERE.  Very few people say "Hey, how in the heck did I get to Kansas?" 
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: schreds21 on January 24, 2024, 10:14:22 AM
WTF?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/3-kansas-city-chiefs-fans-found-dead-outside-home-after-watching-a-game-what-we-know/ar-BB1hbIxz?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=f022b39ea9bb4d09b8a0d590729341bf&ei=74
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Pete on January 24, 2024, 10:24:50 AM
WTF?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/3-kansas-city-chiefs-fans-found-dead-outside-home-after-watching-a-game-what-we-know/ar-BB1hbIxz?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=f022b39ea9bb4d09b8a0d590729341bf&ei=74
The fun part is that they currently do not know what killed them.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 24, 2024, 12:01:00 PM
Like the toxicology report came back clean?
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: cfbandyman on January 24, 2024, 12:45:15 PM
Like the toxicology report came back clean?

Right, like my first thought is they all must have injected/drank something that was spiked. If there is nothing in that then wtf happened.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 24, 2024, 12:52:34 PM
I have a hard time believing there wasn't fentanyl or lethal doses of some other illicit drug in their system.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 24, 2024, 01:23:51 PM
I have a hard time believing there wasn't fentanyl or lethal doses of some other illicit drug in their system.

has to be. One guy getting blackout drunk, passing out and dying in the cold....maybe. 3 guys? prob not.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 24, 2024, 01:28:09 PM
I have a hard time believing there wasn't fentanyl or lethal doses of some other illicit drug in their system.

has to be. One guy getting blackout drunk, passing out and dying in the cold....maybe. 3 guys? prob not.

And the guy that lived somehow doesn't realize they are dead in his backyard for several days? These dudes got murdered or negligent homicide at best.
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: star seed 7 on January 24, 2024, 01:44:23 PM
A lot of privilege on display itt
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: pissclams on January 25, 2024, 10:14:30 PM
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Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: schreds21 on January 26, 2024, 08:10:01 AM
I have a hard time believing there wasn't fentanyl or lethal doses of some other illicit drug in their system.
Sounds like the guy that lives there is some sort of scientist....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/brother-of-chiefs-fan-who-was-found-dead-in-friend-s-backyard-speaks-out-says-story-not-adding-up/ar-BB1hfKEm?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=8a56dc4885a642739b70704682ca1843&ei=35
Title: Re: Kansas City things
Post by: wetwillie on January 26, 2024, 01:25:55 PM
Just a PhD and his homies hooverin schneef for the chiefs game, as one does.