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Re: 8-10
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2016, 09:35:47 PM »

i guess if we get superhuman efforts from wes every time we play in bramlage we can do it.  DJamer appeared to play out of his mind tonight too.

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2016, 09:39:15 PM »
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Re: 8-10
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2016, 09:40:16 PM »
Man I want a tournament bid.  And I want a first round matchup with frank.

the always-exciting 12-12 matchup...i guess it could happen in the "First Four"

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2016, 09:48:55 PM »
Man I want a tournament bid.  And I want a first round matchup with frank.

the always-exciting 12-12 matchup...i guess it could happen in the "First Four"

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2016, 10:00:38 PM »
At .8548, Big 12 is 2nd best conference in kenpom since 2004 ACC. 8-10 absolutely gets us in.

it doesn't matter how good the teams are if you don't beat them.  purely hypothetically (i don't think, and am not arguing, that it's the most likely path to 8-10), if kstate goes 6-0 against the 3 non tourney possible teams and 2-10 against the tourney teams along with 0-2 against noncon at-large possibles - that's not a good bubble resume.
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Re: 8-10
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2016, 10:13:39 PM »
What games are we actually going to be the favorite in?

Baylor     probably not favored
@OSU     favored
@TCU     favored
KU          not favored
Texas     probably not favored
@ISU     not favored
TCU       favored
@Tech   not favored

Vegas would probably put us at 6-12 in conference. 

I suggest you guys bet on K-State getting to the Tournament since Vegas has us at 5000 to 1 odds.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/futures/
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Re: 8-10
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2016, 10:18:04 PM »
What games are we actually going to be the favorite in?

Baylor     probably not favored
@OSU     favored
@TCU     favored
KU          not favored
Texas     probably not favored
@ISU     not favored
TCU       favored
@Tech   not favored

Vegas would probably put us at 6-12 in conference. 

I suggest you guys bet on K-State getting to the Tournament since Vegas has us at 5000 to 1 odds.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/futures/

@OSU and Texas I'd say both are pick 'ems

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2016, 10:33:46 PM »
It is extremely unlikely we beat Baylor.  They are going to zone us to death and we will struggle to score 65.

We are better than 50-50 to beat KU.  The problem is our difficulty on the road.  I think getting to 8-10 is going to be very difficult because we will not win more than 1 on the road.  6 or 7 wins seems very likely.


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Re: 8-10
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2016, 10:36:27 PM »
Isn't this our first top 50 win this year?

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2016, 10:38:21 PM »
There's no way in hell we'll be favored at OSU. We are hot trash on the road, haven't won in Stillwater in 30 years, and OSU beat KU by 19 there earlier this year.

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2016, 10:39:26 PM »
I think the damn holefighters have ceased to exist today.  The stretch from 4 minutes to the end to me were the best.  We did not cave to pressure.  Last minute collapses in the NC, Texas, and WVU games have given us 3 losses that could have gone the other way.  Our young lions have learned to growl and kill.

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2016, 10:40:01 PM »
It is extremely unlikely we beat Baylor.

kp has kstate favored to beat baylor.  they favor kstate in all the home games except ku (and have ku at just 54%).  i agree with your point about home/road.  i actually think kp probably underestimates the importance of home/road*, although it usually seems like it is a more important factor to kp than it is among fans.




* - may have it about right overall, but i think it is probably underestimated for high major conference games and overestimated on the other end of the spectrum.

 
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Re: 8-10
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2016, 10:40:52 PM »
Isn't this our first top 50 win this year?

as you can see, one is enough.
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Re: 8-10
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2016, 10:52:14 PM »
It is extremely unlikely we beat Baylor.

kp has kstate favored to beat baylor.  they favor kstate in all the home games except ku (and have ku at just 54%).  i agree with your point about home/road.  i actually think kp probably underestimates the importance of home/road*, although it usually seems like it is a more important factor to kp than it is among fans.




* - may have it about right overall, but i think it is probably underestimated for high major conference games and overestimated on the other end of the spectrum.

baylor's zone will kill us.  also mid-week game against baylor will not get the same crowd we just had.

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2016, 10:57:55 PM »
What games are we actually going to be the favorite in?

Baylor     probably not favored
@OSU     not favored
@TCU     favored
KU          not favored might be a pick'em
Texas     probably not favored
@ISU     not favored
TCU       favored
@Tech   not favored

Vegas would probably put us at 6-12 in conference. 

I suggest you guys bet on K-State getting to the Tournament since Vegas has us at 5000 to 1 odds.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/futures/

@OSU and Texas I'd say both are pick 'ems

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2016, 10:59:43 PM »
Isn't Drew 2-1 in MHK vs oscar?

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2016, 11:29:20 PM »
baylor's zone will kill us.

i'm not sure i believe in the magical powers of zones.  and even if i did, this isn't the baylor zone of old.  baylor is an elite offense shackled to a very poor defense.
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Re: 8-10
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Re: 8-10
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2016, 11:59:03 PM »
would depend on who the five are, i think.  tcu x 2, tech, osu and 1 good win wouldn't do it. bu, ku, isu, ut and one of the poor teams would be in easy.

We need to get 2 of 3 (bay Ku Tex) to have a shot. Otherwise, if we go 1-1 in Kc, we are 2-11 vs NCAA teams from B12.

Texas made it last year going 2-9 vs B12 Conf teams. So its not impossible, but Ksu at 20-13 8-10 with only 2 wins vs top 50 (Ga was 65 today) seems kinda iffy.

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2016, 07:28:34 AM »
I need to see us put a few consecutive conference wins together before I'm all in but it's nice to at least have a reasonable path to a bid. Before last night I just didn't see it.

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2016, 09:14:43 AM »
Isn't this our first top 50 win this year?

Take it to the Frank Martin thread.





at one point in time TTU was top 50, iirc
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Re: 8-10
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2016, 09:16:11 AM »
Baylor isn't zoning near as much this year
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Re: 8-10
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2016, 09:38:20 AM »
Baylor will zone the crap out of us on Wednesday. We better spend the next three days shooting 3s in practice.

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Re: 8-10
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2016, 09:42:46 AM »

baylor's zone will kill us.

i'm not sure i believe in the magical powers of zones.  and even if i did, this isn't the baylor zone of old.  baylor is an elite offense shackled to a very poor defense.

Did you watch the ISU game?  That zone was magical and they have an even worse defense.


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Re: 8-10
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2016, 09:44:54 AM »

Baylor isn't zoning near as much this year

Drew always starts off in it and then abandons when it does not work.  It is not a very good zone usually and they are generally better off playing man, but against a historically bad shooting team like us they will be very good.  We also will get out rebounded and will struggle to get to the line.

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