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I am probably a wizard. I predicted oscar's future as soon as it was announced that we hired him. I wish I could tell you "I wish I had been wrong," but I have really enjoyed being right about this.
i think mir doubled down sometime in conference play.
I actually didn't, I gave myself another out. Right before conference play started, in a prediction thread or something, I said the team is talented enough to make the tournament but I'm not sure i trusted the coaching staff.
Please someone find that one.
I hadn't even seriously considered the possibility of this team making the tournament until MIR said it was 100% a tournament team. He usually doesn't say crap like that lightly so I'm leaning towards believing it.
Let me couch that a bit. I think we have the talent to be a tournament team but you can make a very strong case that oscar's teams have underachieved every single year he's been here. If this team does that, we're out. I don't anticipate 4 losses to OU, Texas, Tech, and TCU but if we do we're boned because I don't think we're sweeping KU, WVU, Baylor, or OSU.
i think mir doubled down sometime in conference play.
Someone on twitter needs to post his response to Kelli's question about criticism
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article135036979.html
wow, that was so great
you and the other dude at the thing
Well my thesis is certainly going to get tested.
I believe this was the largest win/loss margin in the entire conference this season. If you and others who have adopted your thesis are being honest, there really shouldn't be any sincere talk of retention unless he wins the next three games. I still don't think that's enough. At this point it's more likely for him to get canned before the season ends than it is that he'll be coaching here next season.
remember after the tech loss when you guaranteed this was a tourney team and i said it was nit at best
if that's true that he got ejected for sunscreen that's amazing
I'm really excited for some oscar quotes after this game.
I LOVE that Currie was not at the game, and instead following on his phone. A 30 point loss, when you needed it most, against the last place team just looks so rough ridin' terrible on a phone. THIRTY POINTS! So LOL! What a delight!
I watched the entire game.
How do you know ADJC was watching on his phone, btw?
They said he attended the Women's game today in Lawrence. So, I was picturing him sitting in Allen Field house starting down at phone contemplating life.
Well my thesis is certainly going to get tested.
another great effort on 3% d. we seem to finally have gotten that issue fixed.
mir, what chance would you give currie of hiring someone that will have more success at kstate than underwood will have at osu over the next 5 years?
oscar would be fine at most SEC schools.
I don't know why, but yes. The oscar repeat collapse from Illinois is nearly complete.
Anyone with any business acumen at all, I'm talking like lemonade stand level thinking, knows Weber's relatively small buyout isn't a deterrent to firing him. Last year we reported a men's basketball revenue of $9.3 million. Having a coach the fans have given up on will result in a sharp drop in ticket sales, apparel, concessions, and of course donations. Having something to believe in will result in an increase.
Pretty basic stuff.
I don't disagree but I don't know that we've reached a tipping point to make that change. A lot of the same people that bought tickets this year will buy tickets next. Maybe even more if we add another couple wins in the NIT. Weber has the white kid from Kansas that plays "the right way." That sells a lot of tickets and buys a lot of patience.
The bigger issue for an athletic director is if that coach as fired for sanctions.
But, why? Why is that the case?
Because it doesn't seem that way at all when it comes to most of the most programs.
QuoteThe love fest for Brad Underwood, IMHO, is based on emotion and not sound judgment. There simply is not enough evidence for a verdict. If oscar Weber had Evans as a guard, I bet K-State is fighting for a Big XII Championship at this very moment. Brad needs to prove himself for a while before I would feel good about his hire.
at thinking oscar would be in championship contention with Evans though, he had his Evans already.
Anyone with any business acumen at all, I'm talking like lemonade stand level thinking, knows Weber's relatively small buyout isn't a deterrent to firing him. Last year we reported a men's basketball revenue of $9.3 million. Having a coach the fans have given up on will result in a sharp drop in ticket sales, apparel, concessions, and of course donations. Having something to believe in will result in an increase.
Pretty basic stuff.
Does that outweigh admitting that you made a mistake? I'm having a hard time believing it will.
IMO he has more to lose by keeping Weber but I have no idea what that guy is thinking
Meant to say fire their own hire and hire someone new
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Here is a scenario. K-State wins 2 out of the next 3 games, win their first game in the tournament but loses to KU or Baylor in the 2nd round. They are invited to the NCAA tournament where they lose in the open round or maybe get eliminated in the 2nd round. Does Currie justify that as progress? It was over any other year.
Another scenario. K-State loses 2 of their last 3 and does not get a NCAA bid, but does get invited to the NIT where they do well going all the way to Madison Square Garden. Does Currie consider that progress?
Neither of those scenarios are unrealistic with the schedule remaining. An I think Currie will consider ANY post season invite as progress, which may justify Weber returning next year. Just a thought.
