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« Reply #20250 on: February 10, 2015, 01:17:15 AM »
Yes. #1 the baseball team won't allow it, baseball scholarships are to valuable since there is so few of them. Kasey is a baseball player first and foremost and is higher rated baseball recruit than he is football recruit.

Was there a #2?


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« Reply #20252 on: February 10, 2015, 08:51:01 AM »
anybody have a clue when our junior day is and who is scheduled to be here?

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« Reply #20253 on: February 10, 2015, 09:18:56 AM »
Hey guys --  what is that all over steve dave's face?  LOOKS LIKE MANHATTER EGGS ON STEVE DAVE'S FACE TO ME!



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The only fair way to judge a recruiting class is waiting four years, right? Last week, we broke down how the Big 12's top signees of 2011 panned out. Today, we're re-ranking those classes and handing out new letter grades.

1. Kansas State Wildcats
2011 grade: C+
2015 grade: B+

Top signees: WR Tyler Lockett, OT Cody Whitehair, DE Meshak Williams, S Dante Barnett, WR Curry Sexton
Breakdown: Lockett became an all-time K-State great, and LHC Bill Snyder's staff developed a lot of standout players from this class. Lockett and Whitehair were two-stars who'll finish as four-year starters. Don't forget that Williams was the Big 12's Defensive Lineman of the Year in 2012. KSU did count transfers Arthur Brown and Bryce Brown toward this class, too, and Arthur did earn conference Newcomer of the Year honors.



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The only fair way to judge a recruiting class is waiting four years, right? Last week, we broke down how the Big 12's top signees of 2011 panned out. Today, we're re-ranking those classes and handing out new letter grades.

1. Kansas State Wildcats
2011 grade: C+
2015 grade: B+
Top signees: WR Tyler Lockett, OT Cody Whitehair, DE Meshak Williams, S Dante Barnett, WR Curry Sexton
Breakdown: Lockett became an all-time K-State great, and LHC Bill Snyder's staff developed a lot of standout players from this class. Lockett and Whitehair were two-stars who'll finish as four-year starters. Don't forget that Williams was the Big 12's Defensive Lineman of the Year in 2012. KSU did count transfers Arthur Brown and Bryce Brown toward this class, too, and Arthur did earn conference Newcomer of the Year honors.

2. TCU Horned Frogs
2011 grade: N/A
2015 grade: B+
Top signees: CB Jason Verrett, QB Trevone Boykin, S Chris Hackett, DT Davion Pierson, DT Chucky Hunter
Breakdown: Not bad for a Mountain West class, eh? The class that inked a month after TCU's Rose Bowl victory produced a Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year in Boykin and a Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year in Verrett. While they became stars, four-star WRs LaDarius Brown and Brandon Carter were kicked off the team and 11 more members of this 24-man class ended up leaving TCU.

3. Texas Longhorns
2011 grade: A
2015 grade: B
Top signees: DB Quandre Diggs, RB Malcolm Brown, DE Cedric Reed, WR Jaxon Shipley, LB Steve Edmond
Breakdown: ESPN's No. 5-ranked class did not meet those lofty expectations, but 17 of the Longhorns' 22 signees have started at least one game and it's possible a dozen will end up starting multiple seasons. There weren't many bad busts among this group, nor were there many All-Big 12 players. Losing QB David Ash and OT Josh Cochran to career-ending injuries was a difficult blow.

4. Texas Tech Red Raiders
2011 grade: B-
2015 grade: B
Top signees: TE Jace Amaro, OT Le'Raven Clark, WR Jakeem Grant, LB Pete Robertson, RB DeAndre Washington
Breakdown: There's a lot to like about this group. Amaro became a first-round NFL draft pick and 10 other signees from this class ended up being quality starters in 2014. All but two were three-star finds. The only reason why this class isn't a solid B+ is its 12-24 record in Big 12 games.

5. Baylor Bears
2011 grade: C+
2015 grade: B
Top signees: OT Spencer Drango, DT Beau Blackshear, CB K.J. Morton, P Spencer Roth, OG Desmine Hilliard
Breakdown: Drango became an All-American in 2014 and is back for more. Blackshear will be a three-year starter, and Morton was a juco find who became a critical piece to the 2013 defense. Don't sleep on WR Jay Lee, either. The only concern with this group is Baylor signed a smaller class of 19 and at least seven haven't panned out. Plus, Shawn Oakman signed with Penn State as a three-star recruit in 2011. If we counted him in, the letter grade certainly improves.

6. Oklahoma State Cowboys
2011 grade: B
2015 grade: B-
Top signees: DE James Castleman, LB Ryan Simmons, WR Josh Stewart, RB Desmond Roland, QB J.W. Walsh
Breakdown: The prized gem of this No. 23-ranked class, RB Hershel Sims, did not last long in Stillwater. But the rest of the class Mike Gundy and his staff assembled included some major contributors, led on defense by Castleman, Simmons and DE Jimmy Bean. Stewart went pro a year too early. Walsh and OT Devin Davis have been plagued by injuries but can make comebacks in 2015.

7. Kansas Jayhawks
2011 grade: B-
2015 grade: C-
Top signees: LB Ben Heeney, CB JaCorey Shepherd, WR/RB Tony Pierson, DE Michael Reynolds, LB Jake Love
Breakdown: Four-star signees QB Brock Berglund and RB Darrian Miller both transferred (Berglund is on his fourth school now), but Heeney was an absolute gem as a two-star. KU signed 28, found about eight decent starters and a lot more who haven't made much of an impact. We'll see if Michael Cummings, who's started 12 games over two seasons, is the answer at quarterback.

8. West Virginia Mountaineers
2011 grade: C+
2015 grade: C-
Top signees: LB Nick Kwiatkoski, CB Terrell Chestnut, LB Isaiah oscar, DT Shaq Rowell, RB Andrew Buie
Breakdown: Remember, this class was secured while West Virginia was still in the Big East. Their recruiting has certainly improved since joining the Big 12. Kwiatkoski and oscar have combined for 44 starts, and Chestnut emerged this season. WVU still hasn't gotten a whole lot from its skill position takes in 2011, and QB Paul Millard's stint as a starter was brief.

9. Oklahoma Sooners
2011 grade: B+
2015 grade: D+

Top signees: DT Jordan Phillips, LB Frank Shannon, OG Nila Kasitati, DT Jordan Wade, LB P.L. Lindley
Breakdown: This class, ranked No. 11 by ESPN, was a total mess. Half of the 18 signees ended up transferring, two elected to give up football and prized WR Trey Metoyer was kicked off the team. With Phillips going pro early, only five members of the class are still on campus. And that includes Shannon, who was suspended for the 2014 season. At least transfers Brandon Williams (Texas A&M) and Kendal Thompson (Utah) are doing OK elsewhere.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20254 on: February 10, 2015, 09:34:43 AM »
Hey guys --  what is that all over steve dave's face?  LOOKS LIKE MANHATTER EGGS ON STEVE DAVE'S FACE TO ME!



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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20255 on: February 10, 2015, 09:36:39 AM »
that's neat

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20256 on: February 10, 2015, 09:37:46 AM »
They don't even mention how we stole Curry from the Ivy League and that he was a complete badass receiver his senior year doing stuff like this on the regular:


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« Reply #20257 on: February 10, 2015, 09:44:47 AM »
SOME YARD DOG SCRAMBIES JUST GOT SERVED UP ON OLE SD'S FOREHEAD!



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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20258 on: February 10, 2015, 09:51:26 AM »
get out of my face kat kid

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« Reply #20259 on: February 10, 2015, 09:58:36 AM »

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« Reply #20260 on: February 10, 2015, 09:59:15 AM »

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20261 on: February 10, 2015, 10:45:49 AM »


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20262 on: February 10, 2015, 10:50:13 AM »
just offered stephon taylor

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20263 on: February 10, 2015, 10:52:51 AM »
so when is the manhatter going to officially be a mod?

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20264 on: February 10, 2015, 11:06:24 AM »
I bet ol' SD is feeling pretty embarrassed right now, what with all the egg on his face as well as this brand new information that LHC Bill Snyder's players often exceed expectations. Like, SD is just sitting at his desk, dumfounded, saying, "I always thought stars were commensurate to on field play, but Kat Kid really opened my yoke covered eyes."

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20265 on: February 10, 2015, 11:14:14 AM »
I'd say all of our classes the past few years have been top 20 or so.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20266 on: February 10, 2015, 11:18:37 AM »
this can not be going over-easy with sd.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20267 on: February 10, 2015, 11:20:10 AM »
If you consistently finish in the top 20, it's because you are pulling in top 20 classes. There is no other explanation.

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« Reply #20268 on: February 10, 2015, 11:21:13 AM »
If you consistently finish in the top 20, it's because you are pulling in top 20 classes. There is no other explanation.

eggcellent point.

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« Reply #20269 on: February 10, 2015, 12:25:08 PM »
If you consistently finish in the top 20, it's because you are pulling in top 20 classes. There is no other explanation.

If Snyder consistently had top20 talent, he'd consistently be a top-10 team.  he'd be better than 23-43 against ranked opponents.  He wouldn't be historically dreadful against top-10 teams. 

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« Reply #20270 on: February 10, 2015, 12:32:54 PM »
If you consistently finish in the top 20, it's because you are pulling in top 20 classes. There is no other explanation.

Not necessarily.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20271 on: February 10, 2015, 12:35:09 PM »
looks like we're gonna need another carton of eggs

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« Reply #20272 on: February 10, 2015, 12:52:59 PM »
Did somebody order the egg SalaD?


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #20274 on: February 10, 2015, 01:04:25 PM »
how on earth were we ahead of TCU?