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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1500 on: June 01, 2017, 08:08:18 PM »
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“There was serious consideration by the White House to unilaterally rescind the sanctions,” said Dan Fried, a veteran State Department official who served as chief U.S. coordinator for sanctions policy until he retired in late February. He said in the first few weeks of the administration, he received several “panicky” calls from U.S. government officials who told him they had been directed to develop a sanctions-lifting package and imploring him, “Please, my God, can’t you stop this?”

Fried said he grew so concerned that he contacted Capitol Hill allies — including Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., the ranking minority member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee — to urge them to move quickly to pass legislation that would “codify” the sanctions in place, making it difficult for President Trump to remove them.

Tom Malinowski, who had just stepped down as President Obama’s assistant secretary of state for human rights, told Yahoo News he too joined the effort to lobby Congress after learning from former colleagues that the administration was developing a plan to lift sanctions — and possibly arrange a summit between Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin — as part of an effort to achieve a “grand bargain” with Moscow. “It would have been a win-win for Moscow,” said Malinowski, who only days before he left office announced his own round of sanctions against senior Russian officials for human rights abuses under a law known as the Magnitsky Act.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1501 on: June 01, 2017, 08:37:45 PM »
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“There was serious consideration by the White House to unilaterally rescind the sanctions,” said Dan Fried, a veteran State Department official who served as chief U.S. coordinator for sanctions policy until he retired in late February. He said in the first few weeks of the administration, he received several “panicky” calls from U.S. government officials who told him they had been directed to develop a sanctions-lifting package and imploring him, “Please, my God, can’t you stop this?”

Fried said he grew so concerned that he contacted Capitol Hill allies — including Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., the ranking minority member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee — to urge them to move quickly to pass legislation that would “codify” the sanctions in place, making it difficult for President Trump to remove them.

Tom Malinowski, who had just stepped down as President Obama’s assistant secretary of state for human rights, told Yahoo News he too joined the effort to lobby Congress after learning from former colleagues that the administration was developing a plan to lift sanctions — and possibly arrange a summit between Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin — as part of an effort to achieve a “grand bargain” with Moscow. “It would have been a win-win for Moscow,” said Malinowski, who only days before he left office announced his own round of sanctions against senior Russian officials for human rights abuses under a law known as the Magnitsky Act.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1502 on: June 01, 2017, 09:44:18 PM »
"Serious consideration" you guys  :ohno:

"Contacted" other powerless libtards with concerns.  :shakesfist:
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1503 on: June 01, 2017, 09:57:02 PM »
"Serious consideration" you guys  :ohno:

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Unknown to the public at the time, top Trump administration officials, almost as soon as they took office, tasked State Department staffers with developing proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1504 on: June 01, 2017, 10:14:53 PM »
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1505 on: June 01, 2017, 10:19:26 PM »
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Here is what Americans this week were told counted as “news”: Jared Kushner’s past meetings. Russians. James Comey’s upcoming testimony. Russians. Hillary Clinton’s latest conspiracy theories. Russians. Bob Mueller’s as-yet-nonexistent investigation (into Russians). Kathy Griffin, Mr. Met and, of course, “covfefe.” Total words printed on these subjects? At least a duodecillion.

Here’s what actually happened this week, the “news” that holds real consequences for real Americans:

• Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke signed an order to begin reopening Alaska’s National Petroleum Reserve to oil and gas exploration, reversing the Obama administration’s ideologically driven 2013 shutdown. The order even aims at opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to production—a move that is decades overdue. This could not only buck up the listless Alaskan economy but cement the U.S. as an oil and gas powerhouse.


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• The Fish and Wildlife Service took steps that may stop the Obama administration’s last-minute endangered-species listing for the Texas Hornshell, a freshwater mussel. That listing, based on outdated science, threatens significant harm to the Texas economy and was done over the protest of state officials and local industry.

• Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross surprisingly said that he was open to completing the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, or TTIP, a far-reaching trade agreement being negotiated with the European Union.

• Sen. John Thune, the upper chamber’s third-ranking Republican, said his caucus had moved beyond meetings and on to “drafting” the base language of an ObamaCare replacement. The No. 2 Republican, John Cornyn, vowed the Senate would “absolutely” have a bill by “the end of July at the latest.”

And on and on. The Environmental Protection Agency stayed crushing regulations. The U.S. tested the first ground-based system for intercepting ballistic missiles. New numbers showed the private economy adding a rip-roaring 253,000 jobs in May.

Who is to blame for this real-news blackout? The press, obviously. But the co-culprit: Donald Trump.

Americans know that much of the mainstream media is biased in how it presents stories. The dirty little secret is that journalists’ far greater power rests in what they choose to—or not to—report. The country is no better informed about exactly how Russia interfered in the election than it was in October, when intelligence agencies issued a statement expressing their belief that Moscow had helped hack emails. Not a single useful fact has since been added, nor a single investigation completed, nor a single official report produced. Until those inquiries are completed, we will have no new real facts. Yet every day, a new Russia story.


Few expect better from today’s ratings-obsessed media. Especially given its new mission of working with Democrats and Never Trumpers to take down a presidency. That means spewing strategic leaks and suppositions, which create new controversies, which are spun into yet more distant scandals. We are these days reading exposes about former national security adviser Mike Flynn’s work for a Turkish businessman, which is utterly removed from the original question of Russian “COLUSION.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-news-you-didnt-hear-1496358236
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1506 on: June 02, 2017, 06:34:29 AM »
NATO conducting huge exercises, NATO told to spend more on defense, the US to spend more on defense.

New McCarthyite (formerly huge make peace with Russia proponents) Logic:  Man, that's really going to help Russia.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1507 on: June 02, 2017, 06:37:21 AM »
"Serious consideration" you guys  :ohno:

"Contacted" other powerless libtards with concerns.  :shakesfist:
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Unknown to the public at the time, top Trump administration officials, almost as soon as they took office, tasked State Department staffers with developing proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow.

Weird, Obama set up all kinds of back channel talks to ease tensions with Russia, and even told them who to bomb in Syria, while unmasking CIA station chiefs.

You must have been absolutely apoplectic bucket.  T&P's.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1508 on: June 02, 2017, 08:31:56 AM »
"Serious consideration" you guys  :ohno:

"Contacted" other powerless libtards with concerns.  :shakesfist:
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Unknown to the public at the time, top Trump administration officials, almost as soon as they took office, tasked State Department staffers with developing proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow.

Weird, Obama set up all kinds of back channel talks to ease tensions with Russia, and even told them who to bomb in Syria, while unmasking CIA station chiefs.

You must have been absolutely apoplectic bucket.  T&P's.

Don't make this out to be some sort of false equivalence, because it's not.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1509 on: June 02, 2017, 08:47:59 AM »
If the Trump team colluded with Russia during the campaign, why was Jared supposedly trying to set up back channels with the Russians after the campaign? Wouldn't those back channels already be in place for the campaign COLUSION? Maybe you need different back channels.... Or maybe the media can't keep its narrative consistent.
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1510 on: June 02, 2017, 08:52:00 AM »
If the Trump team colluded with Russia during the campaign, why was Jared supposedly trying to set up back channels with the Russians after the campaign? Wouldn't those back channels already be in place for the campaign COLUSION? Maybe you need different back channels.... Or maybe the media can't keep its narrative consistent.

A more formal means of communication, perhaps? What they have alleged so far is that there were a lot of people travelling between Moscow and the U.S. and holding personal meetings with one another. Setting up a line of communication at the Russian embassy would allow them to do this without requiring a courier.

Also, the media's narrative changes as more information comes out, and it has become increasingly worse for Trump.
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1511 on: June 02, 2017, 09:28:27 AM »
If the Trump team colluded with Russia during the campaign, why was Jared supposedly trying to set up back channels with the Russians after the campaign? Wouldn't those back channels already be in place for the campaign COLUSION? Maybe you need different back channels.... Or maybe the media can't keep its narrative consistent.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1512 on: June 02, 2017, 09:44:25 AM »
I know my president isn't russia's bitch.  He will not ift the sanctions and he will not return those compounds.  He is a man, not a mouse.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1513 on: June 02, 2017, 11:16:37 AM »
What exactly are we sanctioning them on?  Like we won't buy their oil or something?
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1514 on: June 02, 2017, 12:27:36 PM »
Whatever the obama sanctions are they aren't enough, he was soft on Russia.  Trump will increase them

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1515 on: June 02, 2017, 12:39:21 PM »
I thought their sanctions were related to Iran, you know the country we unsanctioned and then sent a mysterious plane full of billions of dollars of cash to.
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1516 on: June 02, 2017, 01:01:07 PM »
I thought their sanctions were related to Iran, you know the country we unsanctioned and then sent a mysterious plane full of billions of dollars of cash to.

Not aware of sanctions related to Iran. Current sanctions are related to Ukraine, Crimea, and the U.S. election.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1517 on: June 02, 2017, 01:05:41 PM »
I thought their sanctions were related to Iran, you know the country we unsanctioned and then sent a mysterious plane full of billions of dollars of cash to.

Not aware of sanctions related to Iran. Current sanctions are related to Ukraine, Crimea, and the U.S. election.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1518 on: June 02, 2017, 01:27:25 PM »
I thought their sanctions were related to Iran, you know the country we unsanctioned and then sent a mysterious plane full of billions of dollars of cash to.

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Re: Trump and Russia
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1521 on: June 02, 2017, 08:05:30 PM »
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According to the White House, Kushner met with Gorkov as the Trump transition team's "official primary point of contact with foreign governments" and insists discussions were unrelated to personal business.

A source told CNN in March that it was a "relationship meeting" as part of efforts by the transition team -- and Kushner in particular -- to establish a back channel to Putin, as they had done with other leaders during the transition.

However, the Russian bank maintains that Kushner was acting as the head of his family's real estate company when he met with Gorkov -- directly contradicting the White House's statement.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/02/politics/jared-kushner-russian-banker-what-we-know/index.html

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1522 on: June 03, 2017, 11:20:00 AM »
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1523 on: June 03, 2017, 03:06:21 PM »
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Re: Trump and Russia
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