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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #625 on: March 22, 2017, 06:32:45 PM »

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #626 on: March 22, 2017, 07:01:08 PM »
Haha, amaze

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #627 on: March 22, 2017, 08:55:52 PM »

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #628 on: March 22, 2017, 10:05:47 PM »
When the previous president signed off on an order which wholly changed how gathered intelligence from surveillance was disseminated, they are part of this discussion.



Not the least bit surprising that resident Dems either don't get it, or don't think it's a big deal. 

The prospect that the previous administration was spying on Trump is just as plausible as all the extremely circumstantial evidence derived almost exclusively from unnamed sources or highly suspect sources against Trump.


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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #629 on: March 22, 2017, 10:06:26 PM »
Holy crap

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #630 on: March 22, 2017, 10:07:09 PM »
I'm enjoying the potpourri of qualifiers in all these stories. 




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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #631 on: March 22, 2017, 10:25:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/844671521050243073

Oh goodie :lol:

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Leakgate Finds Its Joe McCarthy
On Trump-Russia links, Rep. Schiff tries to fool the public with randomness.

If Donald Trump tweeted his accusations about President Obama wiretapping Trump Tower to get the media off his alleged ties to Russia, then Democrats at Monday’s hearing of the House Intelligence Committee used those same tweets to distract from their lack of goods on alleged COLUSION between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.

Adam Schiff, the California Democrat and ranking member, not once but twice on “Meet the Press” touted “circumstantial evidence of COLUSION.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/leakgate-finds-its-joe-mccarthy-1490137325
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #632 on: March 22, 2017, 10:30:54 PM »
David Frum probably just hates Trump because he's buds with Jeb.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #633 on: March 22, 2017, 10:33:15 PM »
David Frum probably just hates Trump because he's buds with Jeb.

Worst political scandal since 1861, baby
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #634 on: March 22, 2017, 10:37:46 PM »
David Frum probably just hates Trump because he's buds with Jeb.

Worst political scandal since 1861, baby




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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #635 on: March 22, 2017, 10:38:05 PM »
[youtube]https://youtu.be/fyuae0Z9_hA?t=56s[/youtube]

The face of more flexibility after the election:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Rx4DuBPKr5M?t=5s[/youtube]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/sm1CWR6PbA4?t=9s[/youtube]

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #636 on: March 22, 2017, 10:41:28 PM »
 Dax, how is any of that related to the current FBI counter intelligence investigation on your man, Donald J Trump?

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #637 on: March 22, 2017, 10:42:17 PM »
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Biden sits on the gas company’s four-member board.  Also on the board is Devon Archer, who is a close family friend of Secretary of State John Kerry. Biden and Archer are partners in the D.C.-based investment and policy advisory firm Rosemont Seneca Partners.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/18/obamas-push-for-tainted-prosecutor-has-ukrainians-feeling-betrayed/#ixzz4c7JJXaC4

Gosh, just amazing how the allegations against Manafort came from the Ukraine.


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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #638 on: March 22, 2017, 10:43:13 PM »
Dax, how is any of that related to the current FBI counter intelligence investigation on your man, Donald J Trump?

Looks like the FBI should have launched that investigation a little sooner and expanded that, dare I say, Dragnet a little further out into the waters.




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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #639 on: March 22, 2017, 10:46:04 PM »
There's one big difference to what you're pointing out and what's being reported. Trump's people were giving them the  :thumbs: to leak the e-mails they hacked.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #640 on: March 22, 2017, 10:47:11 PM »
There's one big difference to what you're pointing out and what's being reported. Trump's people were giving them the  :thumbs: to leak the e-mails they hacked.

Oh yeah, I'm sure they were waiting on Trump to give them the ol high sign.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #641 on: March 22, 2017, 10:47:34 PM »
if there was something, we would have heard about it ages ago.

maybe in another 25 pages, there will be something other than "trump said hi to an ambassador"

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #642 on: March 22, 2017, 10:48:17 PM »
any good reddit scoop on this stunz?

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #643 on: March 22, 2017, 10:51:21 PM »
There's one big difference to what you're pointing out and what's being reported. Trump's people were giving them the  :thumbs: to leak the e-mails they hacked.

Oh yeah, I'm sure they were waiting on Trump to give them the ol high sign.

 :jerk:

If they're on the record doing that, that's a big deal. Like, "Worst political scandal since 1861," big a deal

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #644 on: March 22, 2017, 10:54:20 PM »
There's one big difference to what you're pointing out and what's being reported. Trump's people were giving them the  :thumbs: to leak the e-mails they hacked.

Oh yeah, I'm sure they were waiting on Trump to give them the ol high sign.

 :jerk:

If they're on the record doing that, that's a big deal. Like, "Worst political scandal since 1861," big a deal

On record where?   You're really going to sit there and tell me that the Russian were going to hold back on that unless Trump et. al. told them to release it?  Really? 

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #645 on: March 22, 2017, 11:00:35 PM »
There's one big difference to what you're pointing out and what's being reported. Trump's people were giving them the  :thumbs: to leak the e-mails they hacked.

Oh yeah, I'm sure they were waiting on Trump to give them the ol high sign.

 :jerk:

If they're on the record doing that, that's a big deal. Like, "Worst political scandal since 1861," big a deal

On record where?   You're really going to sit there and tell me that the Russian were going to hold back on that unless Trump et. al. told them to release it?  Really?

Not at all, but do you seriously not see how it's a big deal if Trump's team is on the phone or inter-webs telling them to do it beforehand?

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #646 on: March 22, 2017, 11:10:15 PM »
There's one big difference to what you're pointing out and what's being reported. Trump's people were giving them the  :thumbs: to leak the e-mails they hacked.

Oh yeah, I'm sure they were waiting on Trump to give them the ol high sign.

 :jerk:

If they're on the record doing that, that's a big deal. Like, "Worst political scandal since 1861," big a deal

On record where?   You're really going to sit there and tell me that the Russian were going to hold back on that unless Trump et. al. told them to release it?  Really?

Not at all, but do you seriously not see how it's a big deal if Trump's team is on the phone or inter-webs telling them to do it beforehand?

Sure, if.

But it's also interesting that you can't find out these things unless you're spying on somebody.   So they're trying to wrap this all up in a neat little FISA (or similar) bow to CYA . . . and coincidently (or ironically?) Obama signs off on a substantial new order which vastly expands the dissemination of intelligence and unmasking just before leaving office.   You will note, no, no you won't, that they're doing their best to wrap this up in a veil of ordinary intelligence gathering (pss, here's a newsflash, the NSA doesn't care about FISA courts, rights or the rule of law.   Never have, never will) when in fact Dick Nixon has a boner in his grave.

We've seen the Flynn transcripts, he did nothing wrong.   Then they tried Sessions . . . nope just a normal meeting just like Dem leaders have had for years with the same people.  So now it's off to plan C, D, E and beyond.    We have extremely suspicious allegations against a campaign manager coming from one of the most corrupt governments in the world (but hey, its makes a 'Pub look bad, so run with it).   A government and country which coincidently has friends and family from the highest levels of the previous administration draped all over their politics and industries.

So who is colluding with who at this juncture?






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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #647 on: March 22, 2017, 11:16:39 PM »
Nice deflection

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #648 on: March 22, 2017, 11:18:00 PM »
He's unraveling  :frown:
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #649 on: March 22, 2017, 11:20:29 PM »
I have nothing but "if"

'fraid so Bucket.