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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #150 on: February 08, 2016, 01:47:41 PM »
doing it all the time, i mean.  it's ok to do it sometimes.  usually for emphasis.
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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #151 on: February 08, 2016, 01:49:40 PM »
 :curse: taco bell

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #152 on: February 08, 2016, 01:52:14 PM »
:curse: taco bell

That little dog wants to emphasize that he is the one who wants Taco Bell.

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #153 on: February 08, 2016, 04:25:25 PM »
yo quiero _ is a pretty natural construction.  it sounds most obnoxious with tu _.  and when repeated over and over again in the same convo. yo _, yo _, yo _, etc.
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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #154 on: February 11, 2016, 08:11:04 AM »
Duolingo seemed pretty good for the first "25%" of Spanish but it is not so good after that...

The first part is learning a lot of vocabulary and very simple sentence structure, so that was pretty easy. Now I've gotten to direct and indirect objects and past tense and I do not like it.

Duolingo does not have lessons, it just has questions/exercises that you have to get wrong, look at the correct answer they show you, then when the same exact question comes up again answer it correctly. So you can memorize that specific phrase for a couple of minutes and pass. But you don't understand why that was the correct answer or when to use the personal "a" or when to add "lo" before the verb or how to make a verb into past tense.

Sure, I could Google all of this but the point was to find an app that would teach me Spanish.

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #155 on: February 11, 2016, 11:31:39 AM »
that's probably the right way.  learning language rules and whatnot is mostly a waste of time.  you want to learn the way babies learn - you listen and then imitate.  trying to learn a language the way you learned algebra doesn't work very well.
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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #156 on: February 11, 2016, 11:50:33 AM »
that's probably the right way.  learning language rules and whatnot is mostly a waste of time.  you want to learn the way babies learn - you listen and then imitate.  trying to learn a language the way you learned algebra doesn't work very well.

I don't know about you, but I had language arts classes in grade school to learn how to put together a proper sentence.

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #157 on: February 11, 2016, 11:51:54 AM »
that's probably the right way.  learning language rules and whatnot is mostly a waste of time.  you want to learn the way babies learn - you listen and then imitate.  trying to learn a language the way you learned algebra doesn't work very well.

I don't know about you, but I had language arts classes in grade school to learn how to put together a proper sentence.

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #158 on: February 11, 2016, 12:07:23 PM »
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #159 on: February 11, 2016, 12:19:11 PM »
my brain works like mrs gooch's on this topic

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #160 on: February 11, 2016, 02:20:09 PM »
Here's an example:

Usted le respondió a ella.

Why do you need both le & ella? They are both indicating her (who you responded to).

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #161 on: February 11, 2016, 02:24:17 PM »
But this sentence...

Ella entro al restaurante.

does not have a "le" in it....

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #162 on: February 11, 2016, 02:51:34 PM »
It hurts my head that you don't get this.  But it's not your fault, the app sucks (which you alleged). 

Also sys is wrong.  It's useful to know the rules.  A baby has to figure out the rules but they have their entire life to do that.  You are doing it as an ambition, in your free time. 

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #163 on: February 11, 2016, 02:54:41 PM »
It hurts my head that you don't get this. 

Well then answer my question...
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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #164 on: February 11, 2016, 03:00:22 PM »
this is exactly who you shouldn't try to learn rules.  just listen and imitate.

why do you need to use le with the first example?  because you've heard other people do it enough that by now your brain has figured out that it sounds better to do so than to not do so.

"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #165 on: February 11, 2016, 03:02:59 PM »
actually, i think your question is inverted.  the le is the normal part and the addition of a ella is the part that should be confusing you (only confusing if you insist on rules).
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #166 on: February 11, 2016, 03:04:35 PM »
Mrs. Gooch, I will only help you if you promise to spend three contiguous weeks in an immersion. 

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #167 on: February 11, 2016, 03:58:05 PM »

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #168 on: February 11, 2016, 04:01:19 PM »
Mrs. Gooch, I will only help you if you promise to spend three contiguous weeks in an immersion.

I interact with Spanish speakers twice per week already. I will ask them to speak to me in Spanish. (actually already asked one of them.) Is that enough?

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #169 on: February 11, 2016, 04:05:53 PM »
this is exactly who you shouldn't try to learn rules.  just listen and imitate.

why do you need to use le with the first example?  because you've heard other people do it enough that by now your brain has figured out that it sounds better to do so than to not do so.

But my restaurant example didn't have a le in it....so if that is the "normal" part then why isn't it used there???   :confused: :facepalm:

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #170 on: February 11, 2016, 05:02:35 PM »
But my restaurant example didn't have a le in it....so if that is the "normal" part then why isn't it used there???   :confused: :facepalm:

because that sentence didn't have an indirect object pronoun.  just subject = ella and direct object = restaurante.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #171 on: February 11, 2016, 06:55:47 PM »
Talking about proper grammar and sentence structure in any language :flush:

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #172 on: February 11, 2016, 07:39:08 PM »
Talking about proper grammar and sentence structure in any language :flush:

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #173 on: February 11, 2016, 08:57:10 PM »
I tried to eavesdrop on a Spanish conversation today but the only word I caught was casa.

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Re: Wanting to learn Spanish
« Reply #174 on: February 11, 2016, 09:02:12 PM »
Spanish is generally spoken pretty fast with a lot of rounded off words and contractions, like english. Unless of course you're talking to someone from the pure Ecuadorian andes