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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #725 on: March 28, 2017, 08:29:55 PM »
we didn't have a ticket office and marketing department that did things to promote the product

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #726 on: March 28, 2017, 08:48:53 PM »
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #727 on: March 29, 2017, 09:38:43 AM »

I think my feelings on oscar are clear, but come on with this stuff. I can understand why you would really hate oscar if you feel that way, but I see no reason to justify any of that. oscar is a way more successful coach than either of those 2 and it really isn't even close.

I just described that Oscar is a better coach than the other two, but it's just in the corn-is-better-than-lima-beans sort of manner. Oscar could easily go fight for the talent needed to make that transition to an every-year-NCAA-tournament, and he actively chooses not to.

Am I crazy or did he recruit Marcus Foster and Westicles?
Wade, Sneed, Harris, DJamer, etc. Biggest misconception about oscar. Hate him for who he is, but stop bringing up this lame ass talking point that he can't recruit ppl.  :jerk:

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #728 on: March 29, 2017, 09:42:08 AM »
Hey wacky, do us all a favor and never post on this forum ever again

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #729 on: March 29, 2017, 10:14:42 AM »
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #730 on: March 29, 2017, 11:02:28 AM »
newsflash- we don't make the tournament this year if it was still just 64 teams. that would mean three years in a row of non ncaa tournament. well recruited teams don't miss the tournament three years in a row. that's like saying you recruit well in football, but have missed out on a bowl game three years in a row which would be stupid to say. so yeah on the oscar doesn't recruit well front. also, if oscar took over after Asbury, I don't think he would have done much/any better than wooly and if wooly took over after frank, I don't think he would have done much/any worse than weber. nobody can convince me that they are that much different.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #731 on: March 29, 2017, 11:28:07 AM »
oscar recruits ok, it's the other coaching stuff he's not so good at


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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #732 on: March 29, 2017, 11:36:28 AM »
Yeah, sorry daris, we did make the tourney this year with his recruits tho. Stop playing the what if game. trash him for other crap.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #733 on: March 29, 2017, 11:36:58 AM »
He is ok at finding wings but his points are projects and his posts at ksu have almost all been disasters

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #734 on: March 29, 2017, 11:37:37 AM »
Its hard for me to think Wooly could have had any success no matter what. He coached D1 teams for 19 seasons and had 1 NCAA (his only postseason). His teams only finished .500 or better in conference play 5 times. Wooly is a likable guy who was a bad basketball coach. Weber isn't a likable guy and is an average basketball coach.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #735 on: March 29, 2017, 11:42:10 AM »
oscar recruits ok, it's the other coaching stuff he's not so good at

i'll agree that weber recruits ok. but I'm not going to agree that he recruits well or even above average.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #736 on: March 29, 2017, 11:44:32 AM »
newsflash- we don't make the tournament this year if it was still just 64 teams. that would mean three years in a row of non ncaa tournament. well recruited teams don't miss the tournament three years in a row. that's like saying you recruit well in football, but have missed out on a bowl game three years in a row which would be stupid to say. so yeah on the oscar doesn't recruit well front. also, if oscar took over after Asbury, I don't think he would have done much/any better than wooly and if wooly took over after frank, I don't think he would have done much/any worse than weber. nobody can convince me that they are that much different.

We probably would have been a whole lot better this year and last year if oscar would have handled Marcus Foster better.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #737 on: March 29, 2017, 11:44:45 AM »
Yeah, sorry daris, we did make the tourney this year with his recruits tho. Stop playing the what if game. trash him for other crap.

I'll trash him for whatever I want to dickface. the point is that comparing him to wooly based on tournament appearances isn't a fair comparison because this team would not have been a tournament team when wooly was coaching. that needs to be acknowledged.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #738 on: March 29, 2017, 11:59:03 AM »
Its hard for me to think Wooly could have had any success no matter what. He coached D1 teams for 19 seasons and had 1 NCAA (his only postseason). His teams only finished .500 or better in conference play 5 times. Wooly is a likable guy who was a bad basketball coach. Weber isn't a likable guy and is an average basketball coach.

did wooly ever inherit a team that had five future nba players on it? because if he would have, I'm guessing he would have made the tournament more times than one time.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #739 on: March 29, 2017, 12:05:24 PM »
Yes, those are amazing commercials.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #740 on: March 29, 2017, 12:08:31 PM »
oscar recruits ok, it's the other coaching stuff he's not so good at

i'll agree that weber recruits ok. but I'm not going to agree that he recruits well or even above average.

I think oscar does everything at a C+/B- range, and when the conditions are right, he can reach to a B/B+.  But that's like once or twice a decade.

I mean, the whole narrative I see with most oscar supporters, even those playing Devil's advocate is that we could do worse.  I got into it with Tyler Dreiling on Twitter over that.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #741 on: March 29, 2017, 12:10:32 PM »
oscar recruits ok, it's the other coaching stuff he's not so good at

i'll agree that weber recruits ok. but I'm not going to agree that he recruits well or even above average.

I think oscar does everything at a C+/B- range, and when the conditions are right, he can reach to a B/B+.  But that's like once or twice a decade.

I mean, the whole narrative I see with most oscar supporters, even those playing Devil's advocate is that we could do worse.  I got into it with Tyler Dreiling on Twitter over that.

And I'm not proud of that last sentence.  I'm really not.
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #742 on: March 29, 2017, 12:41:22 PM »
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #743 on: March 29, 2017, 12:49:45 PM »
He is ok at finding wings but his points are projects and his posts at ksu have almost all been disasters

wes was our pg this year, say that to his face


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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #744 on: March 29, 2017, 12:59:45 PM »
Wes is a great example of oscar's good wing recruiting

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #745 on: March 29, 2017, 01:06:39 PM »
Its hard for me to think Wooly could have had any success no matter what. He coached D1 teams for 19 seasons and had 1 NCAA (his only postseason). His teams only finished .500 or better in conference play 5 times. Wooly is a likable guy who was a bad basketball coach. Weber isn't a likable guy and is an average basketball coach.

Being .500 at the p5 conference level would probably put him above average depending on the context. I think it is also fair to say quality of a individual coach is fluid and is also very dependent on his coaching staff. Scott Drew is better coach today than he was 4 years ago. The question is from where Weber is now is he moving up in the market or is the market surpassing him.

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« Reply #746 on: March 29, 2017, 01:08:44 PM »
Wes is a great example of oscar's good wing recruiting

Oscar is good with wings. Good a coaching point guards, but awful at recruiting/evaluating. General mess with Bigs. :dunno:

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #747 on: March 29, 2017, 01:10:53 PM »
He is aware of his bigs recruiting/developing problem.  It's why Korn Dawg is on staff now.
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #748 on: March 29, 2017, 01:16:51 PM »
He is aware of his bigs recruiting/developing problem.  It's why Korn Dawg is on staff now.

I think his big philosophy has been different at K-State than Illinois. His choices of big this year seem better. But I think the overall execution has been pretty poor. Not having Malek Harris hurts because he had a good motor and better Athleticism than the rest of our roster returning. I know he is at the D-II level right now but he was in car accident that really set his career back.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #749 on: March 29, 2017, 01:44:04 PM »
DJamer has been as good as any post at KSU since Jeremiah Massey.