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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #250 on: March 15, 2017, 01:04:30 PM »
_FAN you left out the big xii ship year

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #251 on: March 15, 2017, 01:06:03 PM »
oscar has his initials monogrammed on the cuff.  Alright then.
He's tourney'd 3 out of 5 years. Frank was 4 out of 5

it's the 6 wins to 0 wins that really irks me (if you're going compare their two tenures)

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #252 on: March 15, 2017, 01:06:16 PM »
_FAN you left out the big xii ship year

I debated leaving out the 2nd year, but I gave him credit because the best player was his recruit. I took away his first 2 Illinois seasons because his best players were Self recruits. I was trying to show his P5 record with mostly his players. Its not awful, but its far from great.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #253 on: March 15, 2017, 01:09:10 PM »
Since oscar isn't getting fired and will want/need an extension, offer one but only with a reduced buyout.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #254 on: March 15, 2017, 01:10:35 PM »
is it time for ksu to be innovative and consider a negative buyout?

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #255 on: March 15, 2017, 01:20:24 PM »
Yes, i'm totally fine with not extending him at this point. Wait it out.
What do you need to learn? He's been a coach for 20 years. Extend him or fire him. Regardless of this weekend's results.

He's a proven mediocre product.  What is wrong with staying with oscar until someone is available who we know is better than mediocre?  There is some logic to making sure you are not taking a step back even if it is at the cost of not immediately taking a step forward.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #256 on: March 15, 2017, 01:45:48 PM »


Yes, i'm totally fine with not extending him at this point. Wait it out.
What do you need to learn? He's been a coach for 20 years. Extend him or fire him. Regardless of this weekend's results.

He's a proven mediocre product.  What is wrong with staying with oscar until someone is available who we know is better than mediocre?  There is some logic to making sure you are not taking a step back even if it is at the cost of not immediately taking a step forward.

Then you extend and give him a full public vote of support to make sure he has the best chance to recruit.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #257 on: March 15, 2017, 02:03:12 PM »

Then you extend and give him a full public vote of support to make sure he has the best chance to recruit.

The fanbase is always going to hate him. You don't get over Oscar-hate especially when it has been festering for 5 years. That will adversely affect recruiting, especially given his penchant for not being able to handle talent. To give him an extension will just be a waste of money.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #258 on: March 15, 2017, 02:11:33 PM »
Pfffft no everyone won't always hate oscar. If, if he found a way to starting winning at an impressive clip he would become our lovable dork.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #259 on: March 15, 2017, 02:24:18 PM »



Then you extend and give him a full public vote of support to make sure he has the best chance to recruit.

The fanbase is always going to hate him. You don't get over Oscar-hate especially when it has been festering for 5 years. That will adversely affect recruiting, especially given his penchant for not being able to handle talent. To give him an extension will just be a waste of money.

Then fire him no matter what happens this weekend

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #260 on: March 15, 2017, 02:32:17 PM »



Then you extend and give him a full public vote of support to make sure he has the best chance to recruit.

The fanbase is always going to hate him. You don't get over Oscar-hate especially when it has been festering for 5 years. That will adversely affect recruiting, especially given his penchant for not being able to handle talent. To give him an extension will just be a waste of money.

Then fire him no matter what happens this weekend

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #261 on: March 15, 2017, 02:52:41 PM »


Yes, i'm totally fine with not extending him at this point. Wait it out.
What do you need to learn? He's been a coach for 20 years. Extend him or fire him. Regardless of this weekend's results.

He's a proven mediocre product.  What is wrong with staying with oscar until someone is available who we know is better than mediocre?  There is some logic to making sure you are not taking a step back even if it is at the cost of not immediately taking a step forward.

Then you extend and give him a full public vote of support to make sure he has the best chance to recruit.

do you guys who use this line of thinking realize how insane it sounds?

yeah man, i was totally going to sign at k-state until i learned that they haven't extended their coach and then i used reverse logic to figure out that they suck.  that's when i realized the place wasn't for me, i want to win so i'm going somewhere else.


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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #262 on: March 15, 2017, 02:55:58 PM »
Bob Huggins, 2006:
"Why settle for 2nd when 1st is available?"

oscar Weber, 2016:
"Can we make the one or two plays we didn't make last year to be in the upper half of the league?"

oscar Weber, 2017:
"Can we make the one or two plays we didn't make last year to be in the upper half of the league?"

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #263 on: March 15, 2017, 02:58:39 PM »
Bob Huggins, 2006:
"Why settle for 2nd when 1st is available?"

oscar Weber, 2016:
"Can we make the one or two plays we didn't make last year to be in the upper half of the league?"

one of those coaches finished 1st and one of them finished 4th

but if selling motivational quotes to your fan base is the measurable that you're after, it's huggins in a landslide


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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #264 on: March 15, 2017, 03:05:55 PM »
Bob Huggins, 2006:
"Why settle for 2nd when 1st is available?"

oscar Weber, 2016:
"Can we make the one or two plays we didn't make last year to be in the upper half of the league?"

one of those coaches finished 1st and one of them finished 4th

but if selling motivational quotes to your fan base is the measurable that you're after, it's huggins in a landslide
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #265 on: March 15, 2017, 03:12:10 PM »
Bob Huggins, 2006:
"Why settle for 2nd when 1st is available?"

oscar Weber, 2016:
"Can we make the one or two plays we didn't make last year to be in the upper half of the league?"

one of those coaches finished 1st and one of them finished 4th

but if selling motivational quotes to your fan base is the measurable that you're after, it's huggins in a landslide

yeah one of those coaches inherited a team with a PG

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #266 on: March 15, 2017, 03:16:31 PM »
Bob Huggins, 2006:
"Why settle for 2nd when 1st is available?"

oscar Weber, 2016:
"Can we make the one or two plays we didn't make last year to be in the upper half of the league?"

one of those coaches finished 1st and one of them finished 4th

but if selling motivational quotes to your fan base is the measurable that you're after, it's huggins in a landslide

yeah one of those coaches inherited a team with a PG

Say that to Clent Stewarts face you jerk.
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #267 on: March 15, 2017, 03:17:01 PM »
God, I did love me some Clent Stewart.  :thumbs:

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #268 on: March 15, 2017, 03:17:46 PM »
Give him the most insulting extension offer ever.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #269 on: March 15, 2017, 03:26:09 PM »
Give him the most insulting extension offer ever.

Any extension offer should come with a reduction to the buyout.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #270 on: March 15, 2017, 03:27:40 PM »
i believe my guaranteed negative buyout scenario is what some of you are craving

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #271 on: March 15, 2017, 03:39:22 PM »
If oscar was smart, and he's not, and not narcissistic, which he is, he'd use the success at the end of this year to make a lateral move, maybe to a slightly worse program, where he's guaranteed more years. Missouri is the best example. But he's not. He thinks he can retire here, and if he makes it through next year he will.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #272 on: March 15, 2017, 03:40:22 PM »


Yes, i'm totally fine with not extending him at this point. Wait it out.
What do you need to learn? He's been a coach for 20 years. Extend him or fire him. Regardless of this weekend's results.

He's a proven mediocre product.  What is wrong with staying with oscar until someone is available who we know is better than mediocre?  There is some logic to making sure you are not taking a step back even if it is at the cost of not immediately taking a step forward.

Then you extend and give him a full public vote of support to make sure he has the best chance to recruit.

do you guys who use this line of thinking realize how insane it sounds?

yeah man, i was totally going to sign at k-state until i learned that they haven't extended their coach and then i used reverse logic to figure out that they suck.  that's when i realized the place wasn't for me, i want to win so i'm going somewhere else.



Then fire him

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #273 on: March 15, 2017, 03:41:24 PM »
he'll be 61 at the start of next season, screw the extension. we need a secession plan

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #274 on: March 15, 2017, 03:50:03 PM »
He needs extended.  You wackadoos want to dish out 6 million for a guy that finished in 5th place in the Big 12.

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