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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2014, 06:48:21 PM »
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2014, 08:02:11 PM »
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 09, 2014, 03:29:49 PM
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beems34: I have never wanted KU to leave the @Big12Conference more than I do now after seeing that awards list.  What an absolute disgrace.

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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2014, 11:47:14 PM »
Barnes as COY is a joke. Either Lon or Self, with a lean toward Lon for coaching up a tram with far less talent than KU, should have won it.

Glad to see Marcus get some accolades.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2014, 02:18:11 AM »

Quote from: catzacker on March 09, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
Lon or Self should be COY. 

Don't really get Foster on Def 2nd team, but yippie for him.

Will even as HOM is laughable.

By the time you get to HM, that's over 25 players in a conference with around 50 total starters. So, being tagged as mediocre for a 4-year starter seems pretty meaningless. So I'm ok with it.


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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2014, 02:21:10 AM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 09, 2014, 02:43:24 PM
good for Marcus.

I disagree with the POY pick and I hate the COY pick, that should have been Self or Lon. Also I think Ellis should have been second team over Holmes.

Pretty much agree with all this. Self is basically COY every year.


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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2014, 06:06:24 AM »
Who would you have made POY MIR?
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2014, 07:04:20 AM »
Quote from: felix rex on March 10, 2014, 02:18:11 AM

Quote from: catzacker on March 09, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
Lon or Self should be COY. 

Don't really get Foster on Def 2nd team, but yippie for him.

Will even as HOM is laughable.

By the time you get to HM, that's over 25 players in a conference with around 50 total starters. So, being tagged as mediocre for a 4-year starter seems pretty meaningless. So I'm ok with it.


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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2014, 07:39:04 AM »
Seems like all big 12 is just something for nerdy BBSers to talk about


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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2014, 08:33:57 AM »
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on March 10, 2014, 07:39:04 AM
Seems like all big 12 is just something for nerdy BBSers to talk about


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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2014, 08:48:56 AM »
Wow, almost meaningless conference awards causes squawkville to go into total meltdown.

Hilarious.

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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2014, 08:52:56 AM »
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 10, 2014, 08:48:56 AM
Wow, almost meaningless mega-validation conference awards causes squawkville to go into total meltdown.

Hilarious.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2014, 09:06:40 AM »
There are people in this world actually upset with the Big 12 HM selections.  Amazing. 
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2014, 10:17:54 AM »
AP All Big 12: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/03/10/the-2013-14-ap-all-big-12-mens-basketball-teams/6254059/

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FIRST TEAM:

Melvin Ejim, Iowa St., Sr., 6-6, 220, Toronto, Ontario.

DeAndre Kane, Iowa St., Sr., 6-4, 200, Pittsburgh, Pa.

Marcus Smart, Oklahoma St., So., 6-4, 225, Flower Mound, Texas.

Juwan Staten, West Virginia, Jr., 6-1, 190, Dayton, Ohio.

Andrew Wiggins, Kansas, Fr., 6-8, 200, Vaughan, Ontario.

SECOND TEAM:

Markel Brown, Oklahoma St., Sr., 6-3, 190, Alexandria, La.

Joel Embiid, Kansas, Fr., 7-0, 250, Yaounde, Cameroon.

Marcus Foster, Kansas St., Fr., 6-2, 200, Wichita Falls, Texas.

Buddy Hield, Oklahoma, So., 6-4, 208, Freeport, Bahamas.

Cory Jefferson, Baylor, Sr., 6-9, 220, Killeen, Texas.

HONORABLE MENTION:

Kyan Anderson, TCU; Bryce Chery, Baylor; Cameron Clark, Oklahoma; Jaye Crockett, Texas Tech; Perry Ellis, Kansas; Eron Harris, West Virginia; Jonathan Holmes, Texas; Georges Niang, Iowa St.; Cameron Ridley, Texas; Ryan Spangler, Oklahoma; Isaiah Taylor, Texas.

COACH OF THE YEAR: Lon Kruger, Oklahoma.

PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Melvin Ejim, Iowa St.

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR: DeAndre Kane, Iowa St.

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR: Andrew Wiggins, Kansas.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2014, 10:21:36 AM »
even more reason why Foster deserves more love. If he's our only player sniffing these lists and we're a tourney team, what does that say?
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2014, 10:24:05 AM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 10, 2014, 10:17:54 AM
FIRST TEAM:

Melvin Ejim, Iowa St., Sr., 6-6, 220, Toronto, Ontario.

DeAndre Kane, Iowa St., Sr., 6-4, 200, Pittsburgh, Pa.

Marcus Smart, Oklahoma St., So., 6-4, 225, Flower Mound, Texas.

Juwan Staten, West Virginia, Jr., 6-1, 190, Dayton, Ohio.

Andrew Wiggins, Kansas, Fr., 6-8, 200, Vaughan, Ontario.

SECOND TEAM:

Markel Brown, Oklahoma St., Sr., 6-3, 190, Alexandria, La.

Joel Embiid, Kansas, Fr., 7-0, 250, Yaounde, Cameroon.

Marcus Foster, Kansas St., Fr., 6-2, 200, Wichita Falls, Texas.

Buddy Hield, Oklahoma, So., 6-4, 208, Freeport, Bahamas.

Cory Jefferson, Baylor, Sr., 6-9, 220, Killeen, Texas.

HONORABLE MENTION:

Kyan Anderson, TCU; Bryce Chery, Baylor; Cameron Clark, Oklahoma; Jaye Crockett, Texas Tech; Perry Ellis, Kansas; Eron Harris, West Virginia; Jonathan Holmes, Texas; Georges Niang, Iowa St.; Cameron Ridley, Texas; Ryan Spangler, Oklahoma; Isaiah Taylor, Texas.

COACH OF THE YEAR: Lon Kruger, Oklahoma.

PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Melvin Ejim, Iowa St.

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR: DeAndre Kane, Iowa St.

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR: Andrew Wiggins, Kansas.

these conference awards make me feel really rough ridin' stupid for being even a little upset with our 10-8 conference record the last few days.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2014, 10:25:37 AM »
Quote from: Shooter Jones on March 10, 2014, 10:24:05 AM
these conference awards make me feel really rough ridin' stupid for being even a little upset with our 10-8 conference record the last few days.

Yeah, if you judge anything based on these awards, oscar and his staff did one heck of a job with this team.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2014, 10:28:45 AM »
Coaches and writers undervalue Gipson, too.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2014, 10:32:43 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on March 10, 2014, 10:28:45 AM
Coaches and writers undervalue Gipson, too.

To an extent. I really like the way he developed this year, but he certainly wasn't 1st or 2nd team level. The coaches giving him HM is probably about right.

Here's a comparison from the KC Star with their team, Coaches, and AP: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/09/4877286/complete-list-of-all-big-12-teams.html

Everyone talks about OSU and BU underachieving, but with two 1st team guys and the POY, you could argue ISU was up there and should have contended with KU for the league title.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2014, 10:38:47 AM »
offense v defense.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2014, 11:12:45 AM »
Texas didn't have anyone on the AP teams.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2014, 11:17:50 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on March 10, 2014, 11:12:45 AM
Texas didn't have anyone on the AP teams.

Yeah, I thought about Texas as being the other team who overachieved considering who they had on all league teams. Granted, the AP had 3 Longhorns as HM. OU only had a 2nd team AP player (2 HM) as well. This sort of explains the Coaches/AP voting for Barnes and Kruger.
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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2014, 11:59:34 AM »
It still mystifies me that recruiting is not viewed as part of coaching.


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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2014, 01:07:21 PM »
Quote from: felix rex on March 10, 2014, 11:59:34 AM
It still mystifies me that recruiting is not viewed as part of coaching.


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Re: All Big 12
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2014, 01:26:37 PM »
I would straight up have no problem giving COY to Self every year.
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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2014, 01:34:22 PM »
Hopefully oscar can recruit better players so he doesn't have to be such an awesome coach. 
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