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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: pissclams on December 25, 2015, 08:14:16 PM
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I've got an A+ source from Vanier saying that our HCIW is none other than Jim "Jimmy" Leavitt.
Welcome aboard, Coach!
I know this isn't the sexiest hire we could have made but he's a good man and nobody works harder.
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Welcome to the Framework Jim!!!!! :excited:
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SLTH
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Some bells cannot be unwrung, but what about the learning disability (poor auditory memory) that left him functionally illiterate and, until recently, able to read only at second-grade level?
By now everyone has heard the story about how he built USF from scratch and that they used trailers as offices, but no one talks about how those trailers were from special education classrooms that he attended classes in while in high school. He totes them along with him wherever he goes. This is hearsay of course, but at some point you can't deny the fact that people say things for some good reasons sometimes. Like it or not.
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Could they be bringing Leavitt and Veny in and whomever does better gets the job?
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https://twitter.com/zach_barnett/status/809160230630260736
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for everyone out there around the bbs globe who is wondering, i dropped my a+ source from my list of sources after this BS
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for everyone out there around the bbs globe who is wondering, i dropped my a+ source from my list of sources after this BS
good call. do you maybe have an a- source to fall back on? perhaps someone with some venables news?
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http://footballscoop.com/The-Scoop/
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:excited:
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http://footballscoop.com/The-Scoop/
Love it or Leavitt.
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Oregon: Defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt will make $1.15 million per year in a four year contract reports Andrew Greif of the Oregonian. No current Pac-12 assistants make over $1 million per year. Leavitt would owe Oregon a small buyout should he leave to accept any position other than as head coach at Kansas State which he could freely leave for.
I mean, there HAS to be a somewhat serious conversation going between Levitt and KSU in order for HIGHEST PAID COORDINATOR IN THE ENTIRE PAC-12 to bother to negotiate a buyout exception for only one school. Right?!?
I mean c'mon. There is a "thing" in place. There has to be.
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eff he is so old. Whatever i guess.
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How much does Leavitt not jumping to K-State at the end of Snyder I? But we would get a better coach now, who maybe wouldn't have late season letdowns when he team lost to lesser opponents.
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Wake Forest: Wake Forest University has an opening for a graduate assistant position working with the offensive line. The position will begin in the Spring of 2017 with the start date TBD. Experience with the offensive line is preferred. If interested, email Warren Ruggiero at [email protected].
wow, had no idea another Prince assistant was a P5 coordinator. They're everywhere!
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Before Bowling Green, Ruggiero was the quarterback coach at Kansas State and coached Josh Freeman to a first round selection in the 2009 NFL Draft. He also mentored Collin Klein who went on to be a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.
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Before Bowling Green, Ruggiero was the quarterback coach at Kansas State and coached Josh Freeman to a first round selection in the 2009 NFL Draft. He also mentored Collin Klein who went on to be a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.
:D
I vividly remember Ron Prince calling him the "quarterback whisperer."
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Oregon: Defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt will make $1.15 million per year in a four year contract reports Andrew Greif of the Oregonian. No current Pac-12 assistants make over $1 million per year. Leavitt would owe Oregon a small buyout should he leave to accept any position other than as head coach at Kansas State which he could freely leave for.
I mean, there HAS to be a somewhat serious conversation going between Levitt and KSU in order for HIGHEST PAID COORDINATOR IN THE ENTIRE PAC-12 to bother to negotiate a buyout exception for only one school. Right?!?
I mean c'mon. There is a "thing" in place. There has to be.
You would think so. If not, he kind of looks like a dumbass for this getting out. I have a clause in my contract that says I can leave to be CEO of Apple.
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I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.
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60 is the new 40
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i still want venzy
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Would he actually be a good get? I know nothing about him.
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I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.
This is a significant and excellent way of looking at this, Fan. That really IS a head scratcher on the part of Oregon. OK, I changed my mind. Tthis makes me think the likelihood of Leavitt is low.
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I find it hard to believe that this is a coincidence. Welcome aboard, new overlord Jim Leavitt
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Would he actually be a good get? I know nothing about him.
After what he did at CU I'm good with it. I'd rather have Venzy but if not he's a good hire.
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Leavitt:Snyder as Roy:Dean
So maybe it's a "I will come if you call" thing :dunno:
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I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.
This is a significant and excellent way of looking at this, Fan. That really IS a head scratcher on the part of Oregon. OK, I changed my mind. Tthis makes me think the likelihood of Leavitt is low.
Oregon's new offensive-minded coaching staff needs an infusion of defensive knowledge. The thinking might be that $1.5 million/year isn't too steep a price for that if he's out of there in a year or two but lets the new staff get established. :dunno:
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It's Phil's money - there is no price too steep
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I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.
This is a significant and excellent way of looking at this, Fan. That really IS a head scratcher on the part of Oregon. OK, I changed my mind. Tthis makes me think the likelihood of Leavitt is low.
Oregon's new offensive-minded coaching staff needs an infusion of defensive knowledge. The thinking might be that $1.5 million/year isn't too steep a price for that if he's out of there in a year or two but lets the new staff get established. :dunno:
Fair enough, and the Phil Knight point by Skipper is good as well.
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I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.
This is a significant and excellent way of looking at this, Fan. That really IS a head scratcher on the part of Oregon. OK, I changed my mind. Tthis makes me think the likelihood of Leavitt is low.
Oregon's new offensive-minded coaching staff needs an infusion of defensive knowledge. The thinking might be that $1.5 million/year isn't too steep a price for that if he's out of there in a year or two but lets the new staff get established. :dunno:
*1.15 million
No current Pac-12 assistants make over $1 million per year.
What a loser town conference, geez
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http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2016/12/jim_leavitt_new_oregon_ducks_d.html#incart_river_mobileshort_index
"However, Leavitt does have a very specific loophole in his buyout clause: He won't be required to pay anything "should he voluntarily terminate this agreement to become the head football coach at Kansas State University."
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Where was it posted first?
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In this thread, 3 hours ago
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In this thread, 3 hours ago
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Fair enough..
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I can understand Leavitt not being some fans' first choice but in no way would that be a bad choice
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Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.
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I want some youth in our coaches damnit!!
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Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.
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I think Leavitt could pretty regularly have us at 7-9 wins. I would take anyone that could continue winning here not named Snyder. Just to shake the stigma that only a freak like Snyder can win here.
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Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.
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I think Leavitt could pretty regularly have us at 7-9 wins. I would take anyone that could continue winning here not named Snyder. Just to shake the stigma that only a freak like Snyder can win here.
I feel the same way.
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You should do it, Pete.
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I believe Leavitt could assemble a good staff, would take.
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I believe Leavitt could assemble a good staff, would take.
This. Leavitt has demonstrated ability to field great defenses, and he has solid Florida recruiting ties. If he came and hired a good OC, a Leavitt hire, in my books, would be a home run. The question is, would Currie hire someone that lied to an investigator like 10 years ago (reason for being dismissed from USF).
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Leavitt seems to have had conversations with someone about KSU but who knows if that person is Snyder or Currie. If it was Snyder, he just put pressure on Currie to either hire him or find someone better. Leavitt has a lot of experience as a HC which seems to be a high priority on past Currie lists. That said, I don't think pressuring Currie is a winning formula. Between his stubbornness on Leti Romero and apparent value on "getting along" with the coaches, that would be a tough way to start a relationship.
On the plus side, it feels pretty big time for any coach to put an out in a contract that is specific to K-State.
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Didn't Currie allegedly reject Bill hiring him as an assistant a few years back?
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Leavitt is a less successful version of oscar Weber who grabbed a player by the throat and slapped him during halftime of a game.
But yeah, not bad! :flush:
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Leavitt seems to have had conversations with someone about KSU but who knows if that person is Snyder or Currie. If it was Snyder, he just put pressure on Currie to either hire him or find someone better. Leavitt has a lot of experience as a HC which seems to be a high priority on past Currie lists. That said, I don't think pressuring Currie is a winning formula. Between his stubbornness on Leti Romero and apparent value on "getting along" with the coaches, that would be a tough way to start a relationship.
On the plus side, it feels pretty big time for any coach to put an out in a contract that is specific to K-State.
I don't want to defend Currie by any means, but I'm curious how and if he will change now that we have a new Prez. Seeing how Schultz has responded to situations at Washington St. leads me to believe that he may have had influence on how Currie responded to circumstances we are all familiar with. I hope Myers wants to win at any/all costs.
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Snyder would be thrilled to have a guy who would keep Sean & all his geriatric buds on staff. Pretty solid situation for Leavitt to walk into, too.
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Leavitt is a less successful version of oscar Weber who grabbed a player by the throat and slapped him during halftime of a game.
But yeah, not bad! :flush:
When he became a head coach, he inherited a program from a future hall of famer stacked with talent?
I guess I missed that.
But yeah, I don't like the slapping a player thing.
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Leavitt is a less successful version of oscar Weber who grabbed a player by the throat and slapped him during halftime of a game.
But yeah, not bad! :flush:
When he became a head coach, he inherited a program from a future hall of famer stacked with talent?
I guess I missed that.
But yeah, I don't like the slapping a player thing.
Southern Illinois wasn't exactly a great program before oscar arrived but he won two conference titles there. Did Leavitt win a conference title?
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Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.
I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.
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Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.
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I think Leavitt could pretty regularly have us at 7-9 wins. I would take anyone that could continue winning here not named Snyder. Just to shake the stigma that only a freak like Snyder can win here.
I feel the same way.
Me too. Case in point was Keitz the other day saying the players were too jacked in the bowl game and didn't play the "K-State way". These rough ridin' dumbasses are going to pick apart every thing the new coach does because "Coach Snyder would have never let that happen". Leavitt would be a good bridge to hopefully getting someone young and talented down the road IMO. Plus, I bet that kid deserved to get smacked. Plus, plus, JL is buds with Jim Harbaugh, maybe he will steer some UM grade rejects our way. :Woot:
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dont let OG cRusty hijack this thread with some oscar weber mind eff.
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Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.
I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.
They are comparable in they were fired from their last head coaching job and KSU shouldn't hire them.
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Well look at cRusty standin firm.
Who do you want cRusty? Venzy?
I mean, I'd like Venzy as well, but Venzy has been a DC/Co-DC for what? Nearly twenty years now? Yet all I've ever heard is that he's never been a serious candidate for any head coaching job, anywhere. Snyder, for example, was only an OC for 9 years, before becoming the HC at K-State.
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If we win 10+ next year and then Snyder steps down, who better would take the job? <- Serious question for Rusty. It's a mid-level BCS gig following a legend and a very good season. Malzahn/Houston both made jumps from mid-majors to top tier gigs without a reason to pass through a K-State. A Leavitt hire doesn't get me super excited but if he is the floor going into a coaching search, I am pretty happy with that. With that buyout clause, I think we could offer it to Venzy, Fleck or a similar young up and comer then go to Leavitt as a back up. If our coaching search were to start and end with Leavitt, that is a mistake.
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cRusty!
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would Harbaugh be his OC given they are buds and the proximity to Olathe?
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Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.
I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.
They are comparable in they were fired from their last head coaching job and KSU shouldn't hire them.
We're fired for completely separate reasons.
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If we win 10+ next year and then Snyder steps down, who better would take the job? <- Serious question for Rusty. It's a mid-level BCS gig following a legend and a very good season. Malzahn/Houston both made jumps from mid-majors to top tier gigs without a reason to pass through a K-State. A Leavitt hire doesn't get me super excited but if he is the floor going into a coaching search, I am pretty happy with that. With that buyout clause, I think we could offer it to Venzy, Fleck or a similar young up and comer then go to Leavitt as a back up. If our coaching search were to start and end with Leavitt, that is a mistake.
I'm sure there would be many successful head coaches who hadn't been fired because of mediocre seasons and player abuse that would take the job. We could get a Mahlzan or Fleck or Herman under the right circumstances. I don't know exactly who that would be, but there are similar coaches out there.
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I definitely think we should offer those guys first but think there are maybe 4-5 any given year and we will be the second or third tier to pick through them.
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I definitely think we should offer those guys first but think there are maybe 4-5 any given year and we will be the second or third tier to pick through them.
Depends on the year/situation. I mean it's pretty clear we could have made a run at Brohm and Fleck and the guy Baylor hired this year. And possibly Taggart. Texas and LSU have been the only changes in a clear tier above us. You could argue Oregon but they have a geographic disadvantage that could make them less attractive to some coaches.
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
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article that sort of touches on what I was saying
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/willie-taggart-oregon-coach-hired-record-bio-wiki-salary-ducks-usf-south-florida-120716
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I don't get why people are soo ready for Snyder to leave? He's an amazing coach
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I don't get why people are soo ready for Snyder to leave? He's an amazing coach
It's because of the fun of guessing who we could get. Remember Huggs :drool:; too bad I also remember Prince. :Yuck:
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I don't get why people are soo ready for Snyder to leave? He's an amazing coach
It's not that I want to kick him out or anything, but he had to leave or die soon right? I'm just looking ahead.
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Good grief crusty get some fresh air and come back later
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I'm with bayareacat on this one
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I'm not a fan, but if he needs to be the sacrificial lamb post-snyder then so be it. He might be a great coordinator, but i have my doubts on his ability to take a P5 team and sustain it long term or take it to the next level.
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gtfoomf leavitt
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Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.
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Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.
Leavitt after next year bringing in a freshly fired Kliff as OC
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Leavitt with the current offensive staff is at least a push on gameday and probably a huge increase in recruiting as he will likely bring in new blood on the defensive side.
My guess is 2018 is Snyd's last - that gives JL two seasons at Oregon and Dimel will be done rough ridin' up RZ possessions with his kid
The real key here is Myers, Currie has spent 10 years of his life in this windy bfe waiting for this hire and I can't see him going with JL who is infinitely more like Frank than oscar :lol: I don't think Bill wants the optics of going over The AD's head but Myers could pull rank.
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Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.
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I think Leavitt could pretty regularly have us at 7-9 wins. I would take anyone that could continue winning here not named Snyder. Just to shake the stigma that only a freak like Snyder can win here.
I feel the same way.
Unless we do hire a super stud, this is the next best option and should be the goal. Having a guy that could produce 2013, 2014, 2016 etc. like seasons on the reg would go a long way to showing that k-state isn't some bum eff no where team that got saved by Snyder.
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Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.
Leavitt after next year bringing in a freshly fired Kliff as OC
TT fans still love Kliff.
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my biggest issue with leavitt is that he is ugly and has no charisma
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I am making an assumption that Leavitt would keep most of this staff. I am probably wrong, but for now I will assume that. No judgment on whether that is a good or bad thing.
After that, my personal opinion is that Leavitt is as good as 79 year old Bill.
On X's and O's and the details of running a program, I think Leavit would be as good as 79 year old Bill. Leavitt built a program from NOTHING to decent/solid. That is a MASSIVE undertaking that PROVES good management skill. I am confident in this assessment.
On recruiting, I would bet on Leavitt being better. And, not just because you can't get much worse than Bill. Because Leavitt has been more places and participated in different approaches. He has been "on the recruiting" trail more than Bill.
On game day, we have reason to believe that Bill is either significantly less involved than he was in the past, and/or actually a cause of disharmony from time to time these days. At the least, I call this a push with Leavitt.
I will accept and support Leavitt as head coach, if that is what happens.
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I've kinda come to terms with the fact that KSU isn't going to be able to hire anyone of any stature without significant baggage. I'll take Leavitt at this point if we can't have venables or someone of equal quality who's younger (I have no idea who this desperate mystery candidate could be).
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Also, I am not going to brow beat anyone into accepting any coach. Each person gets to make their own choice, and eff me if I think I get to push my crap on you.
For example, I rough ridin' LOATHE oscar Weber. Some of you like him, and might WANT me to support oscar. I will not.
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Also, also, many of you seem to have forgotten that Leavitt looks like the mascot of this board. I like that he does. Helps our branding.
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Agree that Leavitt is a fine option but not a home run option and shouldn't be treated as the only option.
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Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.
Leavitt after next year bringing in a freshly fired Kliff as OC
TT fans still love Kliff.
Don't want to rebuild offense and roster for air raid unless Cats are scorched earth rebuilding and that shouldn't be the case in the next 2 years.
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My assumption is that leavitt put that in there so that it could be leaked and make people think that he is a viable head coaching candidate again. I can't for the life of me see Currie hiring him. He's mildly insane and not especially easy to deal with from what I understand. We could definitely do worse though (see oscar's).
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When does someone from GPC post that they knew this information all along but were told to keep quiet.. Has this already happened? :pray:
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When does someone from GPC post that they knew this information all along but were told to keep quiet.. Has this already happened? :pray:
they may claim that but I can tell you with certainty it would be false
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.
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Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.
Leavitt after next year bringing in a freshly fired Kliff as OC
Have you ever considered that some of their Defensive woes could be attributed to the bullshit air raid offense? That defense gets gassed early and often.
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I like our offense plenty and want nobody to eff with it right now
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Ride or die dimel as OC is what I'm saying
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I've kinda come to terms with the fact that KSU isn't going to be able to hire anyone of any stature without significant baggage. I'll take Leavitt at this point if we can't have venables or someone of equal quality who's younger (I have no idea who this desperate mystery candidate could be).
This is the correct answer/response. Currie isn't hiring Venz and probably would fight hiring JL.
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I like to think JL will keep dimel as oc. And our stud OL coach. And Coleman and him probably have some history.
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.
I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.
Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.
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Speaking of coaches I was apparently so disengaged that I didn't even know CK left for northern rough ridin' Iowa.
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I like to think JL will keep dimel as oc. And our stud OL coach. And Coleman and him probably have some history.
Everything here. Old man Del can walk.
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.
I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.
Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.
You think Purdue is a better job than K-State? :sdeek:
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.
I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.
Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.
You think Purdue is a better job than K-State? :sdeek:
You're kind of contradicting yourself with this post.
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Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?
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I mean, Dimel knows this program as well as anyone and has coordinated some great offense since he's been here.
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I mean, Dimel knows this program as well as anyone and has coordinated some great offense since he's been here.
I view it as keeping Dimel and the offensive staff plus adding probably a better defensive coordinator and staff.
I'm thinking Miller, Mo, and Hayes minimum are gone if Leavitt is here with some younger assistants. Of course Dimel could have a problem because he wasn't hired and leave if that happens.
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I mean, Dimel knows this program as well as anyone and has coordinated some great offense since he's been here.
I view it as keeping Dimel and the offensive staff plus adding probably a better defensive coordinator and staff.
I'm thinking Miller, Mo, and Hayes minimum are gone if Leavitt is here with some younger assistants.
Dimel could also do all that.
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Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.
I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.
You're rapping with a guy who was devasted when we didn't hire Manny Diaz, so please, save your well reasoned breath from any moron who would deny tjat Leavitt has been anything other than succesful everywhere he's been.
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.
I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.
Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.
You think Purdue is a better job than K-State? :sdeek:
Probably not, but Purdue would prob pay more and he would have to deal with less bullshit there. Plus, he didn't "walk over glass" or even accept the Purdue job. I mean, Oregon hired Willy Taggert!!! I think Taggert or pretty much anyone from the Harbaugh tree would be great, but none of them or PJ Fleck are waiting and hoping to follow Snyder and come here.
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Why would Purdue pay more than us?
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Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.
I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.
You're rapping with a guy who was devasted when we didn't hire Manny Diaz, so please, save your well reasoned breath from any moron who would deny tjat Leavitt has been anything other than succesful everywhere he's been.
Haha, where do you come up with this stuff
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Why would Purdue pay more than us?
No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.
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Why would Purdue pay more than us?
No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.
With the way Currie's been investing in football facilities you think he'd go cheap on the coach? So bizarre that you'd think that.
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I think Leavitt proved more head coaching capability than Dimel, but I acknowledge that the argument for Dimel relies on many of the same foundations as the argument for Leavitt.
If we hired Dimel, I wouldn't go all oscar Weber eff it all, like I have done with basketball, but I would be quite nervous. I'd shut my mouth and "support him" or whatever, tho.
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Also, I actually like that Leavitt is part crazy.
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I definitely think we should offer those guys first but think there are maybe 4-5 any given year and we will be the second or third tier to pick through them.
Leavitt is way better than Fleck, and more accomplished than Herman and Malzahn.
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Trump outlaws football in his first month after the super bowl. KSU football ends having vanquished its nemesis and Snyder with 200+ and us all knowing we were basically the 2017-18 national champs. Hang the banner, don't sweat any of this.
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I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is. I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.
I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.
Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.
You think Purdue is a better job than K-State? :sdeek:
Probably not, but Purdue would prob pay more and he would have to deal with less bullshit there. Plus, he didn't "walk over glass" or even accept the Purdue job. I mean, Oregon hired Willy Taggert!!! I think Taggert or pretty much anyone from the Harbaugh tree would be great, but none of them or PJ Fleck are waiting and hoping to follow Snyder and come here.
R u in sane?
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Why would Purdue pay more than us?
No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.
R u Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
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Fsd, u r a giant weirdo
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I am curious how Leavitt is more accomplished than Gus.
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Leavitt had, like, a .667 winning % at USF when it went from D2 straight into the Big East, when the Big East was a legitimate conference. He turned a CU dumpster fire of a defense into a top defense in months. He has quality NFL experience. About 110 of 120 D1 programs would be legit jacked to land him, and somehow, someway, there are mongoloided idiots who think he's in parity with or below pj fleck or willie taggert. :ROFL: You can't make this crap up folks.
I'd be bummed with Bill Belichick but think McDaniels is awesome because he's younger and something derp derp duhr
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Leavitt is Taggart's coordinator, so obviously people in charge of hiring coaches think Leavitt is a tier below Taggart.
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Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?
because with JL we still get dimel but also leavitt (hopefully). none of that crap is relevant. but jim leavitt turning dumpster fire CU into what it was is relevant. quit ignoring that. he's not suddenly a candidate for what he did at south florida. he's a candidate for the same reason he's now the highest paid assistant in the Pac. and I'm not saying JL is some kind of a homerun, I'm just saying you're being a dumbass going anti on the SF talking point.
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It is true, that 25-26 conference record is a staggering accomplishment.
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Leavitt is Taggart's coordinator, so obviously people in charge of hiring coaches think Leavitt is a tier below Taggart.
$1.15 million coordinator (e.g., more $$ than the purdue hc makes)
:lol:
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Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?
because with JL we still get dimel but also leavitt (hopefully). none of that crap is relevant. but jim leavitt turning dumpster fire CU into what it was is relevant. quit ignoring that. he's not suddenly a candidate for what he did at south florida. he's a candidate for the same reason he's now the highest paid assistant in the Pac. and I'm not saying JL is some kind of a homerun, I'm just saying you're being a dumbass going anti on the SF talking point.
Hes a good def coordinator no doubt, but its his ability to be head coach that is questionable.
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Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?
because with JL we still get dimel but also leavitt (hopefully). none of that crap is relevant. but jim leavitt turning dumpster fire CU into what it was is relevant. quit ignoring that. he's not suddenly a candidate for what he did at south florida. he's a candidate for the same reason he's now the highest paid assistant in the Pac. and I'm not saying JL is some kind of a homerun, I'm just saying you're being a dumbass going anti on the SF talking point.
He's getting way too much credit for CU this year. Mike Gundy hung 40 on his vaunted defense.
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Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?
because with JL we still get dimel but also leavitt (hopefully). none of that crap is relevant. but jim leavitt turning dumpster fire CU into what it was is relevant. quit ignoring that. he's not suddenly a candidate for what he did at south florida. he's a candidate for the same reason he's now the highest paid assistant in the Pac. and I'm not saying JL is some kind of a homerun, I'm just saying you're being a dumbass going anti on the SF talking point.
He's getting way too much credit for CU this year. Mike Gundy hung 40 on his vaunted defense.
Well if the argument is that he was the reason that defense turned around, then wouldn't the implosion without him strengthen the argument for him? :dunno:
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leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
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The next guy needs to be able to coach up 2 stars or recruit at a MUCH higher level, I don't see either happening, I think good football at ksu will walk out the door with Bill :frown:
We need to put all our efforts into basketball, way easier to be great.
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Jumping from Pitt State to the equivalent of the ACC is the same as auburn or directional michigan
#goEtard
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As long as its for less than five years its ok fine with me.
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leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?
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I think you are underselling leavitt's ability to recruit, and most any coach's ability to. I can go into a long winded specifics reason why this is but the summary is Bill doesn't allow his guys to really hit the trail in favor of spending time with their butts in the seat at home. that has been amazing for us with bill obviously. maybe that's the only way you can win at KSU, but I don't think that's accurate.
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leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?
not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
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As long as its for less than five years its ok fine with me.
he's old AF. obviously it's for ~5 years unless he's great then he can coach until he dies like our current coach.
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I'm pissed off I'm defending JL as a HC candidate at KSU because I'm very MEH about it.
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Zero meltdown for me if we did not pursue Leavitt.
Castle Bravo if we did not pursue Brenvy.
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I'd absolutely take BV ahead of JL. It's a higher upside option. I think it could go down in flames harder as well, which is good for not being stuck in mediocrity which JL could put us in.
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leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?
not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.
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When Jim Leavitt is available, you lock that crap down.
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Unless you're intentionally trying to make a bad hire it would be pretty hard to make a worse hire than leavitt. It would be an unbelievably crappy hire.
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leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?
not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.
I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.
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He choked a player. We get it for fucks sake.
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500,000 base salary, 1 mill bonus for every win over 8. Weed out unconfident losers
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leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?
not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.
I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.
who did he recruit to cu?
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I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire? Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
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leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?
not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.
I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.
who did he recruit to cu?
:dubious:
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I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire? Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason
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JC wants a big win. I don't believe he wants another BW and I honestly believe he knows that was a loser hire. whether he actually hires someone worth a crap is another story. but I have a good amount of faith he's not going to punt like the weber hire.
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I'm cool gambling like a madman in basketball hires because of the ability to turn something terrible around quickly. Football is harder. That makes me more ok with meh hires like leavitt. I'm also assuming that our good assistants stay and the super old or bad ones are dealt with appropriately. Still don't think we would hire him though but who knows.
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Why would Purdue pay more than us?
No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.
You brought up the Big 10. You clearly don't think we measure up to the Big 10's middle class comprised of Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern, and Indiana, so you think we belong with the garbagey Purdue, Illinois, Rutgers, and Maryland. I firmly disagree, we would fit into the Big 10 middle class easily. Mike Riley only makes $2.7 million, that isn't crap, KU could afford that for a coach if they needed to. Since you don't think we can hang.with Northwestern I'd be interested to know who you think we compare to.
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I don't care what he did at USF. However, I don't see John "I am risk management" Currie hiring him. He might have had s chance with Currie if he got fired for hitting the kid, but I don't think John will be able to get past the cover-up attempt and telling playing/coaches to lie to cover up.
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MIR, do you think fleck would come here and what would we be required to pay him?
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I don't care what he did at USF. However, I don't see John "I am risk management" Currie hiring him. He might have had s chance with Currie if he got fired for hitting the kid, but I don't think John will be able to get past the cover-up attempt and telling playing/coaches to lie to cover up.
do you think he's just adding KSU HC gig to his contract because he was an assistant coach there 20 years ago?
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I'm cool gambling like a madman in basketball hires because of the ability to turn something terrible around quickly. Football is harder. That makes me more ok with meh hires like leavitt. I'm also assuming that our good assistants stay and the super old or bad ones are dealt with appropriately. Still don't think we would hire him though but who knows.
Yeah.
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I don't care what he did at USF. However, I don't see John "I am risk management" Currie hiring him. He might have had s chance with Currie if he got fired for hitting the kid, but I don't think John will be able to get past the cover-up attempt and telling playing/coaches to lie to cover up.
do you think he's just adding KSU HC gig to his contract because he was an assistant coach there 20 years ago?
I think he added it for the 10% chance Currie is gone this time next year just to be safe because he could.
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I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire? Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason
That's a great one. I've posted a list more than once. He's going to hire someone with experience, preferably P5, who will not embarrass the athletic department. Mason is perfect because Currie can essentially do to Vandy like he did to TCU when he got Mittie. He got a coach who was recognized as a very good coach at an inferior P5 program and threw cash, facilities, and a give a crap fanbase in their face. Despite some of our own not understanding how much money we have, we can absolutely out spend a fair amount of P5 schools on salaries. I think there are three of these guys who currently fit this mold:
Derek Mason
Mike MacIntire
and unfortunately Tracy Claeys
If he can't get one of those guys he then goes to the accomplished group of 5 guy
PJ
Scott Satterfield
Brian Harsin
Craig Bohl
Scott Frost
Jeff Monken
Paul Petrino
etc.
If this takes a couple of years I'd look out for Luke Fickel and Mike Norvell
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I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire? Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason
That's a great one. I've posted a list more than once. He's going to hire someone with experience, preferably P5, who will not embarrass the athletic department. Mason is perfect because Currie can essentially do to Vandy like he did to TCU when he got Mittie. He got a coach who was recognized as a very good coach at an inferior P5 program and threw cash, facilities, and a give a crap fanbase in their face. Despite some of our own not understanding how much money we have, we can absolutely out spend a fair amount of P5 schools on salaries. I think there are three of these guys who currently fit this mold:
Derek Mason
Mike MacIntire
and unfortunately Tracy Claeys
If he can't get one of those guys he then goes to the accomplished group of 5 guy
PJ
Scott Satterfield
Brian Harsin
Craig Bohl
Scott Frost
Jeff Monken
Paul Petrino
etc.
If this takes a couple of years I'd look out for Luke Fickel and Mike Norvell
Dave Clawson and Pat Fitzgerald
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what are your thoughts on the guys on that list MIR?
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MIR, do you think fleck would come here and what would we be required to pay him?
I do. I thought it was a lock with Kill here, but he's gone now so whatever. I think it will take 2.5-3.
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personally I'm not going to (hoping) put john currie's crap weber hire into the equation with this hire. It's the one shitty actual data point I have, I realize that, but I'm giving him a lot of benefit of the doubt.
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MIR, do you think fleck would come here and what would we be required to pay him?
I do. I thought it was a lock with Kill here, but he's gone now so whatever. I think it will take 2.5-3.
we'll absolutely pay that. I'd definitely take if he'd come for that.
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rough ridin' kingsburry makes over 3. we'd pay fleck that.
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I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire? Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason
That's a great one. I've posted a list more than once. He's going to hire someone with experience, preferably P5, who will not embarrass the athletic department. Mason is perfect because Currie can essentially do to Vandy like he did to TCU when he got Mittie. He got a coach who was recognized as a very good coach at an inferior P5 program and threw cash, facilities, and a give a crap fanbase in their face. Despite some of our own not understanding how much money we have, we can absolutely out spend a fair amount of P5 schools on salaries. I think there are three of these guys who currently fit this mold:
Derek Mason
Mike MacIntire
and unfortunately Tracy Claeys
If he can't get one of those guys he then goes to the accomplished group of 5 guy
PJ
Scott Satterfield
Brian Harsin
Craig Bohl
Scott Frost
Jeff Monken
Paul Petrino
etc.
If this takes a couple of years I'd look out for Luke Fickel and Mike Norvell
Dave Clawson and Pat Fitzgerald
Clawson is a good one, I don't think Fitzgerald is leaving at this point, he's seemingly had several opportunities. Also he makes like no money there at all.
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Has a school ever paid a good coach too much? Like, the good coach comes in and is as successful as anyone could hope but the success doesn't produce enough revenue or whatever to justify his salary? Is that even possible?
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Has a school ever paid a good coach too much? Like, the good coach comes in and is as successful as anyone could hope but the success doesn't produce enough revenue or whatever to justify his salary? Is that even possible?
no, that is not possible.
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Has a school ever paid a good coach too much? Like, the good coach comes in and is as successful as anyone could hope but the success doesn't produce enough revenue or whatever to justify his salary? Is that even possible?
no, that is not possible.
Good, that should make this a lot easier.
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I don't know if saben or meyer make $10 million a year but if they don't they should. I actually would be interested in the ceiling for either. $20? $30? schools worry a lot about what the other schools are doing.
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what are your thoughts on the guys on that list MIR?
Whipping it out
Mason, I think, maybe, :dunno:
MacIntire
PJ
Yeah, okay
Everyone else
GTFOOHWTS
Claeys
Monken
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lol at not counting the Weber hire against him, he Lumberg'd the eff out of Frank from the moment he got to mhk and his answer was a guy that got fired for sucking out loud days before Frank left.
I hope Myers has enough sense to do what Bill wants and not what the intersection of the Peter Principle and consultant cronyism wants.
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I don't know if saben or meyer make $10 million a year but if they don't they should. I actually would be interested in the ceiling for either. $20? $30? schools worry a lot about what the other schools are doing.
Def should've skimped a bit on the new vanier or whatever and routed $30m of donor money to hiring one of them.
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what are your thoughts on the guys on that list MIR?
Whipping it out
Mason, I think, maybe, :dunno:
MacIntire
PJ
Yeah, okay
Everyone else
GTFOOHWTS
Claeys
Monken
I don't think mason or mac are realistic and even if they were I don't know if they are good. similar to leavitt. but leavitt we can for sure have. PJ has more upside but I think he wants more than KSU. and I'm not someone who needs a lifer at KSU. if we can get 2 or 3 great years out of an up and comer I'm definitely for it.
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I don't know if saben or meyer make $10 million a year but if they don't they should. I actually would be interested in the ceiling for either. $20? $30? schools worry a lot about what the other schools are doing.
Def should've skimped a bit on the new vanier or whatever and routed $30m of donor money to hiring one of them.
Yes
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"And as we conduct the traditional presentation of the purple borck brothers blazer, let's all give a big kstate family welcome to the new carl & mary ice head coach of football, nick saban!"
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:lol:
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lol at not counting the Weber hire against him, he Lumberg'd the eff out of Frank from the moment he got to mhk and his answer was a guy that got fired for sucking out loud days before Frank left.
I hope Myers has enough sense to do what Bill wants and not what the intersection of the Peter Principle and consultant cronyism wants.
I don't want to do what Bill wants when it comes to hiring a football coach.
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lol at not counting the Weber hire against him, he Lumberg'd the eff out of Frank from the moment he got to mhk and his answer was a guy that got fired for sucking out loud days before Frank left.
I hope Myers has enough sense to do what Bill wants and not what the intersection of the Peter Principle and consultant cronyism wants.
I don't want to do what Bill wants when it comes to hiring a football coach.
I don't want to do it assuming it's hire sean and just do what sean wants. I don't know for sure if Bill has other options in mind though. I'm fairly confident he doesn't but want to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Who knows more about coaching at KSU than Bill?
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Who knows more about coaching at KSU than Bill?
SEAN!
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Sounds like we should hire him then. Checks all the boxes.
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I'm conflicted AF about all of it.
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Thinking back to how we were too good for Eddie Sutton....
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There's a reason Currie gets paid the big bucks!
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Thinking back to how we were to good for Eddie Sutton....
yeah
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My thoughts on the HC Sean Snyder Experiment:
2009: eff NO
2010: still eff NO
2011: I mean, maybe he could keep this going
2012: I'M IN, let's try to keep this going
2013: HCSSE still has more potential than whatever loser we'd hire
2014: Man, look at Venables over there
2015: OH MY GOD VENABLES
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My thoughts on the HC Sean Snyder Experiment:
2009: eff NO
2010: still eff NO
2011: I mean, maybe he could keep this going
2012: I'M IN, let's try to keep this going
2013: HCSSE still has more potential than whatever loser we'd hire
2014: Man, look at Venables over there
2015: OH MY GOD VENABLES
:lol: lines up with dimel for me
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If KSU is Leavitt's dream job and he wants to be in Manhattan, I think he would be a great second choice.
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Guys, chum1 is a phenomenal poster
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This thread is goEMAW at its best...fun to read. Go Cats.
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My thoughts on the HC Sean Snyder Experiment:
2009: eff NO
2010: still eff NO
2011: I mean, maybe he could keep this going
2012: I'M IN, let's try to keep this going
2013: HCSSE still has more potential than whatever loser we'd hire
2014: Man, look at Venables over there
2015: OH MY GOD VENABLES
and 2016...2017?
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Thinking back to how we were to good for Eddie Sutton....
yeah
Leavitt is much closer to oscar than Eddie Sutton, my word.
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It's pretty obvious that Leavitt has got some kind of deal with JC and LHCBS blessing to be the next HC for KSU... or he's just a stupid eff to put that in his contract.
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It's pretty obvious that Leavitt has got some kind of deal with JC OR LHCBS blessing to be the next HC for KSU... or he's just a stupid eff to put that in his contract.
fyp
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It's pretty obvious that Leavitt has got some kind of deal with JC and LHCBS blessing to be the next HC for KSU... or he's just a stupid eff to put that in his contract.
Being a natural KSU pessimist by nature, I consider it's possible that an exception clause is relatively common in most large buyout contracts?? I don't know, honestly. But maybe his agent put it on the table without Leavitt doing much "negotiating." And KSU is a P5 job that he's connected to and is guaranteed to have a coaching vacancy in 1-3 years.
This, and maybe he assumed his contract details wouldn't garner much publicity.
The alternative is that he has a handshake deal with Snyder, a guy who has been openly advocating for his son to get the job as late as this past offseason.
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The alternative is that he has a handshake deal with Snyder, a guy who has been openly advocating for his son to get the job as late as this past offseason.
They hybrid theory is that Bill might be throwing Sean out there without the sincere belief that Sean will get the job, or even want the job. Instead, he'd "settle" for Leavitt?
I don't really think of Bill as a negotiator, but maybe that's what it is? Who knows.
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If Bill thinks Sean is a non-starter with Currie, he would take Leavitt who would definitely keep Sean on.
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Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it. Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires. http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177
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Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it. Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires. http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177
I appreciate they mentioned Rex's K-State ties.
I like that the highest paid coordinator in the Pac 12 has K-State as his dream job.
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what kind of BBS nirvana would HCRR be?
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Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it. Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires. http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177
Would it be inappropriate to send a few bottles of glucosamine and chondroitin to the KSU athletic department?
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Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it. Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires. http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177
I appreciate they mentioned Rex's K-State ties.
I like that the highest paid coordinator in the Pac 12 has K-State as his dream job.
Yea, just having that clause in there makes me feel big time even if it is a 60 year old DC with a checkered past.
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It's pretty obvious that Leavitt has got some kind of deal with JC and LHCBS blessing to be the next HC for KSU... or he's just a stupid eff to put that in his contract.
I was just going to post this. No reasonable person would give up that much leverage on future head coaching negotiations unless most of the terms were already set.
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Brady Hoke had this same "dream job" clause in his San Diego State contract regarding Michigan. He had one good season at SDSU and got offered the job.
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Leavitt is going to get paid what he is offered if he gets another HC job. KSU won't want to be seen as cheap and will pay him just fine but he was never going to milk Currie with or without the clause in his contract.
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I think it's likely that Bill and John have fought about this for a while, and Leavitt is the only common ground.
Bill wants someone that will keep his staff, coaching AND administrative. At this point, I firmly believe he's hanging on to keep his KSU family employed. He's the tent pole that keeps them getting paid by KSU and in Manhattan. Also, Leavitt would let him keep an office in Vanier and have influence.
I'm with _FAN that a handful of guys are gone when Snyder leaves. But I think a few could come back. Joe Bob, Klein, etc.
I think you could convince Dimel to stay if he got an AHC title and a raise to the 600-700k range.
I'm 100% Venzy, but Jim is the best chance we have to resemble an internal transition. The only major difference would be a change of defensive style. But I think that would be a positive change.
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Also, Leavitt would have Snyder's blessing, and the major donors would be appeased. Donations to complete BSFS wouldn't cease.
With Sean, I think pocketbooks would tighten for a while.
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If Sean wins early the pocketbooks would explode open bc "holy crap we have Bill Jr and we will continue being a big 12 contender forevers!"
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If Sean wins early the pocketbooks would explode open bc "holy crap we have Bill Jr and we will continue being a big 12 contender forevers!"
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What's Tate doing in twenty years?
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If Sean wins early the pocketbooks would explode open bc "holy crap we have Bill Jr and we will continue being a big 12 contender forevers!"
Sean being a great HC would be awesome.
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Also, Leavitt would have Snyder's blessing, and the major donors would be appeased. Donations to complete BSFS wouldn't cease.
With Sean, I think pocketbooks would tighten for a while.
this .........and Bill has a new trump card over Currie, with Gen. Myers......a guy who loves sports and Bill......Currie is now going to have to have a Myers/Synder blessing on the next hire
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Does a JL HC keep Sean on staff? I think that would tell a lot if compromises were made.
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Does a JL HC keep Sean on staff? I think that would tell a lot if compromises were made.
If he wants to, Sean will be on the next staff regardless of whose it is
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I think a new coach would strongly consider keeping him regardless of any deal.
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I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.
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Guys, Venzy is perfect.
It moves when I think about him coaching our cats. The recruiting possibilities, how he looks/acts like hot sex on the sidelines, his staff. He can have my wife if that would seal the deal.
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I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.
Yea
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Thinking back to how we were to good for Eddie Sutton....
yeah
Leavitt is much closer to oscar than Eddie Sutton, my word.
I thought he was talking about the transition to Sutton jr and Snyder jr
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I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.
If he wanted to be a head coach he would. I think he's doing what he wants to do.
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I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.
If he wanted to be a head coach he would. I think he's doing what he wants to do.
I wonder what his pay is? I bet it's the highest assistant coach pay on HCBS staff.
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If Sean wins early the pocketbooks would explode open bc "holy crap we have Bill Jr and we will continue being a big 12 contender forevers!"
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What's Tate doing in twenty years?
running a hobby shop most likely.
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The more I think about it, the more I think JC is in on this. JL meets the successful coach who was fired and could come back here with a recommendation from a former football legend HCBS. Isn't this how we got Oscar?
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our next HC would be stupid to run Sean off the staff. he's an excellent ST coach.
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in fact, i'm confident that multiple blue bloods will be reaching out to Sean the minute Bill announces his retirement.
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Does not matter for us, but niners fired Chip
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I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.
If he wanted to be a head coach he would. I think he's doing what he wants to do.
So has it been decided that he is no longer a candidate for KSU head coach?
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I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.
If he wanted to be a head coach he would. I think he's doing what he wants to do.
I wonder what his pay is? I bet it's the highest assistant coach pay on HCBS staff.
Dimel, Miller, Hayes, and Dickey all make more.
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Good for Blake!
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Mo Latimore has been an assistant coach for 33 years, wtf
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Charlie Dickey is underpaid.
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del and andre's salaries need to do a freaky friday-type sitch.
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Chip kelly will be fired today. My word would that be amaze balls
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This would be the perfect year for Snyder to retire, almost any coach could come in and have success next year with what we have returning. But I'm sure that makes it hard for Snyder to retire as well.
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Mike Cox
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Mo Latimore has been an assistant coach for 33 years, wtf
He is also a huge dick FYI
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I'm telling you guys, after Clemson beats 'Bama for the title. Snyder then has given some thought and time into retiring and does so. Venables comes home.
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I'm telling you guys, after Clemson beats 'Bama for the title. Snyder then has given some thought and time into retiring and does so. Venables comes home.
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I'm telling you guys, after Clemson beats 'Bama for the title. Snyder then has given some thought and time into retiring and does so. Venables comes home.
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being weird looking and maybe a little insane are pretty big positives. in the abstract i think i'm against slapping players or whatever he did, but when it comes down to an actual badass insane genius kstate coach doing it i guess i don't care much.
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being weird looking and maybe a little insane are pretty big positives. in the abstract i think i'm against slapping players or whatever he did, but when it comes down to an actual badass insane genius kstate coach doing it i guess i don't care much.
He hasn't shown he's a genius though. IMO
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being weird looking and maybe a little insane are pretty big positives. in the abstract i think i'm against slapping players or whatever he did, but when it comes down to an actual badass insane genius kstate coach doing it i guess i don't care much.
He hasn't shown he's a genius though. IMO
What more does he need to do? Ohio State averaged 42.7 points this year and their lowest scoring game they scored 17. Ohio State also scored 45 or more 6 times this year.
All of those stats aside Clemson shut them out. I'd say that's pretty genius scheming.
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being weird looking and maybe a little insane are pretty big positives. in the abstract i think i'm against slapping players or whatever he did, but when it comes down to an actual badass insane genius kstate coach doing it i guess i don't care much.
He hasn't shown he's a genius though. IMO
What more does he need to do? Ohio State averaged 42.7 points this year and their lowest scoring game they scored 17. Ohio State also scored 45 or more 6 times this year.
All of those stats aside Clemson shut them out. I'd say that's pretty genius scheming.
We're talking about Leavitt
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I know I was just testing you :buh-bye:
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Leavitt would be an above average hire, not the best we can get, but would be a fine backup if/when we whiff our way down to him. If we hire him without offering a few others that'd be dumb.
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He hasn't shown he's a genius though.
you're just pretending not to be convinced so people don't figure out you're a wussy participation tropher who thinks it's more important to not slap players than to win.
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Frank Martin slapped the crap out of Energy and rusty didnt protest about it. I think its the choking that is where he draws the line.
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Frank Martin slapped the crap out of Energy and rusty didnt protest about it. I think its the choking that is where he draws the line.
The more difficult line for the AD will be the attempted cover-up and giving players and coaches instructions on how to explain what happened to the USF AD.
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Who wants to hear a story about how lil smart ass ben ji got "hit" by a coach?!?
Our wrestling coach in high school was a wiry little man of about 5'4, kinda weird looking but eventually he found someone to marry him earlier that year. We were on the way back from state my senior year in one of those big ole conversion vans, he was in the front passenger seat and I was in the second row of seats.
He starts telling a story about this time his dog got sprayed by a skunk and all the steps he had to take to get rid of the smell, I quipped up "Jeez coach, I didn't realize your wife was that much of a hassle".
The coach whipped around and came right over the first row of seats to grab my shirt with a fist, point a finger at me and say "Don't you ever talk about my wife like that".
By the time school started again next week there were all sorts of rumors that he had punched/choked me etc. I end up getting called into the principles office and have to explain what happened. I liked the guy but knew he could get into some trouble for what he did so I told the principle that I was at fault for making the comment and left out the part about him grabbing my shirt, basically just said he climbed over the row of seating and pointed a finger at me while telling me not to speak of his wife like that.
Nothing came of it after that but if I didn't like the guy I could of easily embellished the truth a bit and got him fired.
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Maybe people with the firey temperament are just better off as coordinators (Mangino, DC Stoops, Leavitt, Venzy, etc) where a HC can oversee and reel them in when need be. I do think that Leavitt has shown he can still coach and has been doing so long enough without incident that he will be deserving of another HC gig.
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Just got on Venzy's Wikipedia page to see what year he left OU and saw this. Stop the presses!
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Just got on Venzy's Wikipedia page to see what year he left OU and saw this. Stop the presses!
Omg, if only Wikipedia was a credible source. :love:
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I'm telling you guys, after Clemson beats 'Bama for the title. Snyder then has given some thought and time into retiring and does so. Venables comes home.
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Omg, if only Wikipedia was a credible source. :love:
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I'm choosing to believe Venzy logged on and changed it himself this morning. Expecting a press conference this afternoon.
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As Wikipedia goes, so goes reality is what I always say.
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After watching his cotton bowl pregame speech just now I'm now firmly on team Fleck
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After watching his cotton bowl pregame speech just now I'm now firmly on team Fleck
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It was changed back already. Maybe it changes after the Natty!?
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Wow, BV is in Topeka!
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:Wha:
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Probably Forbes field then for a quick touch and go meeting at the Capital Plaza hotel, per usual process.
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Still sticking with my story that Snyder is announcing after title game and then Brent is coming home.
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Still sticking with my story that Snyder is announcing after title game and then Brent is coming home.
Would make Leavitt's contract clause super weird
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Still sticking with my story that Snyder is announcing after title game and then Brent is coming home.
Would make Leavitt's contract clause super weird
Nothing seems to surprise or amazing me anymore as a 'Cat fan honestly.
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I guess Levitt would be a good HC for us; but goddamn he's ugly! (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2FYuck.gif&hash=2e47ad3c1f902e110c40ee7a5da13b26ce005874)
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After watching his cotton bowl pregame speech just now I'm now firmly on team Fleck
Where you been, brah?
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Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it. Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires. http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177
I appreciate they mentioned Rex's K-State ties.
I like that the highest paid coordinator in the Pac 12 has K-State as his dream job.
oh man, I had totally forgotten Ryan was our DC for a month. ANother funny Ryan / KSU story
Tannenbaum says there were two events last year that made him sure of what a genuine article he had in Ryan. The first was one of those early occasions in a relationship that, when looked back upon, seems of defining, if slightly inexplicable, importance. These being men, it involved a road trip and many hamburgers. Ryan, Tannenbaum, Schottenheimer and the quarterbacks coach, Matt Cavanaugh, were going to Kansas to scout a potential draft choice, Kansas State quarterback Josh Freeman. Ryan dutifully appeared wearing a dress shirt and crisp trousers, as he had for the many business dinners and events he attended since being hired. This time, Tannenbaum told his new coach: “Rex, he’s a draftable player. He has to impress us.” Ryan’s eyes grew big. He disappeared back into his office and re-emerged wearing a flowing garment which he referred to as “the dress sweats.” The four men jetted west, landed and got their rental car, a pick-up truck. Ryan drove, Tannenbaum rode shotgun, Schottenheimer and Cavanaugh sat knees to chest in back. Stories of the Plains were told by Ryan. Soon all four were dusty. Nobody minded. They watched Freeman throw and run. They were impressed, though not as much as they would be by Mark Sanchez of the University of Southern California. Then, on the way to the airport, Ryan suggested a visit to a Sonic Drive-In for some refreshments. Most of the items on the menu were ordered, including, for Ryan, a cup of limeade the size of Topeka. The truck shook. Nobody can say why. Possibly it was many men eating. The result was that Ryan’s cup began to spill. Freshets of limeade poured everywhere. “Oh, no!” Ryan cried. “The dress sweats!” It has become an iconic line, and every time those words occur to Tannenbaum, he feels happiness.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/magazine/12ryan-t.html
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Guys watch this video, it is an amazing 10 minutes, though 4:45-5:10 is particularly hilarious. This guy is the best coaching candidate not currently a power five head coach and it isn't close. If he's available when we're looking for a coach and we don't get him I'm going to be pissed. Watch this video and tell me this isn't what you want our brand to be.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/eoz84KX61ro[/youtube]
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the fleck-kill connection is an interesting one
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But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?
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But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?
Maybe. But the thought that Kill and Currie at some point discussed the future of K-State football post-Snyder is high and I'm sure Fleck was someone that Kill would have spoken very highly of.
I do like that he has many of the values that would seem to "fit" at K-State (granted, often an overrated part of coaching searches), but partially he has some "anti-Snyder" traits (in a good way) like the emotion that wouldn't be a bad thing to have in post-Snyder era.
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But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?
is this a serious question?
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But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?
Do you really think Jerry Kill is going to pass up the opportunity to be the guy who John Currie consults with from a Dallas hotel room?
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But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?
Maybe. But the thought that Kill and Currie at some point discussed the future of K-State football post-Snyder is high and I'm sure Fleck was someone that Kill would have spoken very highly of.
I do like that he has many of the values that would seem to "fit" at K-State (granted, often an overrated part of coaching searches), but partially he has some "anti-Snyder" traits (in a good way) like the emotion that wouldn't be a bad thing to have in post-Snyder era.
I really enjoyed his take on having a winning team. He says recruiting is the highest priority and have kids buy into the system. Or otherwise said: "Young men that want to be here and want to do the best they can".
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I think this is the first time I've seen Fleck. Definitely the first time I've seen that jacket.
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Fleck gonna go to Minny now.
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Fleck gonna go to Minny now.
Well, maybe. Here's where the Kill thing shows its head again. Claeys is a Kill protege and Minnesota clearly did him dirty. It makes no sense to fire a Kill protege after he won 9 games to hire another Kill protege.
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https://twitter.com/KevinHaskin/status/816776432017965056
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how can you not like Leavitt after that article. #1Cat
Venables is #1 on my wishlist. However, if it's Leavitt, I'd still be pretty pumped
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the venn diagram of football coaches vs human beings who find visors attractive is just one circle, with maybe a sliver left over for 1999 8th graders
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Doesn't all of this force ADJC (or whomever it is at the time) to hire someone at least as good as Levitt? This can't be anything but a good thing for our Cats, right?
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this is like when that girl that you kinda had a crush on ends up being way to overbearing and telling you too much/how much she likes you..
Its like hey, cool, let's be friends instead then..
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Fleck gonna go to Minny now.
Well, maybe. Here's where the Kill thing shows its head again. Claeys is a Kill protege and Minnesota clearly did him dirty. It makes no sense to fire a Kill protege after he won 9 games to hire another Kill protege.
Complete agree, it's a weird situation. They fire Claeys, then Kill talks crap on them, and now there are grumblings that Fleck to Minny is a done deal.
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So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open? He fits every Currie criteria
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how can you not like Leavitt after that article. #1Cat
Venables is #1 on my wishlist. However, if it's Leavitt, I'd still be pretty pumped
This.
Like poster said, this getting out puts more heat on Currie not to hire some dipwad for the job. God I just wish Currie would go to Georgia Tech or Texas or somewhere else.
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So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open? He fits every Currie criteria
The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.
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Here is what I think while we watch Minnesota seemingly pick a new coach in a vacuum...
If some of the names thrown out there are really interested in the job, then we don't have anything to worry about. Minnesota is not a great job. They are about as far away from legitimate talent centers as you can conceivably be, and while they have some historical significance back in the leather helmet days, they haven't been a factor on the national stage in years.
Fun Facts:
Kansas State has been to more bowls historically. We've been to 20, they've been to 19. Their record is 7-12, ours is 8-12.
Kansas State has been ranked in the AP poll more total weeks than Minnesota, historically (208 to 160).
BSFS has a larger stadium capacity than TCF Bank Stadium.
Minnesota hasn't won a conference title since 1967.
Kansas State is 2-1 vs. Minnesota all-time. :D
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So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open? He fits every Currie criteria
The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.
I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.
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So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open? He fits every Currie criteria
I have been in contact with some 'tucks who would love to have him.
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Here is what I think while we watch Minnesota seemingly pick a new coach in a vacuum...
If some of the names thrown out there are really interested in the job, then we don't have anything to worry about. Minnesota is not a great job. They are about as far away from legitimate talent centers as you can conceivably be, and while they have some historical significance back in the leather helmet days, they haven't been a factor on the national stage in years.
Fun Facts:
Kansas State has been to more bowls historically. We've been to 20, they've been to 19. Their record is 7-12, ours is 8-12.
Kansas State has been ranked in the AP poll more total weeks than Minnesota, historically (208 to 160).
BSFS has a larger stadium capacity than TCF Bank Stadium.
Minnesota hasn't won a conference title since 1967.
Kansas State is 2-1 vs. Minnesota all-time. :D
I don't appreciate you saying disparaging things about Minnesota's program right before showing how similar they are to us (minus conference titles).
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So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open? He fits every Currie criteria
The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.
I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.
Well you'd be wrong, it's fine though.
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Here is what I think while we watch Minnesota seemingly pick a new coach in a vacuum...
If some of the names thrown out there are really interested in the job, then we don't have anything to worry about. Minnesota is not a great job. They are about as far away from legitimate talent centers as you can conceivably be, and while they have some historical significance back in the leather helmet days, they haven't been a factor on the national stage in years.
Fun Facts:
Kansas State has been to more bowls historically. We've been to 20, they've been to 19. Their record is 7-12, ours is 8-12.
Kansas State has been ranked in the AP poll more total weeks than Minnesota, historically (208 to 160).
BSFS has a larger stadium capacity than TCF Bank Stadium.
Minnesota hasn't won a conference title since 1967.
Kansas State is 2-1 vs. Minnesota all-time. :D
I don't appreciate you saying disparaging things about Minnesota's program right before showing how similar they are to us (minus conference titles).
I'm basically assuming everyone realizes that we started trying 25 years ago. We condensed our success in 25 years while theirs goes back a century or more.
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If only Coney Durr had picked KSU. He was our top CB target last year (that we had a shot of getting)
https://twitter.com/CD16ERA/status/816413714060611584
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So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open? He fits every Currie criteria
The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.
I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.
Well you'd be wrong, it's fine though.
I typed that like wack. I meant he is very blah, and supported the players boycott. I think the gophers wanted Fleck badly and will likely back up whatever brinks truck their frozen alumni have.
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Claeys really didn't have the Minnesota job long enough to draw any conclusions, but 9 wins at Minnesota in his only full season there isn't bad at all.
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Claeys really didn't have the Minnesota job long enough to draw any conclusions, but 9 wins at Minnesota in his only full season there isn't bad at all.
His best win was like Northwestern or CSU.
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So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open? He fits every Currie criteria
The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.
I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.
Well you'd be wrong, it's fine though.
I typed that like wack. I meant he is very blah, and supported the players boycott. I think the gophers wanted Fleck badly and will likely back up whatever brinks truck their frozen alumni have.
That's fair. I trashed Claeys like 48 hours ago, it's probably more because of how he looks than how he coached.
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So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open? He fits every Currie criteria
The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.
I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.
Well you'd be wrong, it's fine though.
I typed that like wack. I meant he is very blah, and supported the players boycott. I think the gophers wanted Fleck badly and will likely back up whatever brinks truck their frozen alumni have.
That's fair. I trashed Claeys like 48 hours ago, it's probably more because of how he looks than how he coached.
When I look at him he is football Oscar without a national title game. He checks almost every box
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Claeys really didn't have the Minnesota job long enough to draw any conclusions, but 9 wins at Minnesota in his only full season there isn't bad at all.
His best win was like Northwestern or CSU.
If you don't count Washington State, sure. Still, he won 9 games in his first full season coaching the Minnesota Gophers. Firing him is weird. It's not like a Big 10 schedule is ever going to be difficult.
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I think it's reasonable to compare Minnesota to us as far as attractiveness. We prolly carry a little more weight w/ our proximity and presence in TX (state champs and all).
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I think it's reasonable to compare Minnesota to us as far as attractiveness. We prolly carry a little more weight w/ our proximity and presence in TX (state champs and all).
I think my overall point is that we can probably expect to see a name like PJ Fleck if we had an opening. It gives me some level of optimism.
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Here is what I think while we watch Minnesota seemingly pick a new coach in a vacuum...
If some of the names thrown out there are really interested in the job, then we don't have anything to worry about. Minnesota is not a great job. They are about as far away from legitimate talent centers as you can conceivably be, and while they have some historical significance back in the leather helmet days, they haven't been a factor on the national stage in years.
Fun Facts:
Kansas State has been to more bowls historically. We've been to 20, they've been to 19. Their record is 7-12, ours is 8-12.
Kansas State has been ranked in the AP poll more total weeks than Minnesota, historically (208 to 160).
BSFS has a larger stadium capacity than TCF Bank Stadium.
Minnesota hasn't won a conference title since 1967.
Kansas State is 2-1 vs. Minnesota all-time. :D
I don't appreciate you saying disparaging things about Minnesota's program right before showing how similar they are to us (minus conference titles).
I'm basically assuming everyone realizes that we started trying 25 years ago. We condensed our success in 25 years while theirs goes back a century or more.
THIS^
They have 7 "claimed" national championships but haven't done anything since Lyndon B Johnson was in fighting shape.
The turnaround story is cool and all, but there are many times I wish K-State had a few random good years with "claimed" natty's to put on our scoreboard instead of the Big Blog Best Pregame traditional "claim."
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I appreciate K-State for having all of their success after I was born. It would be a lot harder to care about football as a Minnesota alum.
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PJ to Minny
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We really missed out on the "claim your own title" era
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https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/821234578371346433
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high on psi again
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https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/821234578371346433
that tweet reads like one of ben-ji's dad's emails
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JL would totally get down on some snake venom
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Think JL had a hand in this?:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18491292/three-oregon-ducks-football-players-hospitalized-strength-conditioning-workouts (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18491292/three-oregon-ducks-football-players-hospitalized-strength-conditioning-workouts)
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https://twitter.com/KevinHaskin/status/816776432017965056
Kansas State athletic director John Currie declined to comment.
^That's all I need to hear. It's Leavitt.
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Well this needs to be discussed:
http://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/136568/oregon-dc-jim-leavitt-excels-at-recruiting-and-laser-tag
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oh man.. now I kinda like him.
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If he's our next head coach, I'm opening a laser tag place.
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he's basically barney Stinson
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Had no idea laser tag was even still a thing. Figured it died out after paintball came to be. I always wanted that badass rifle (when I was in maybe 8th grade).
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Had no idea laser tag was even still a thing. Figured it died out after paintball came to be. I always wanted that badass rifle (when I was in maybe 8th grade).
Lazer tag was the business in middle school. Haven't really thought about it since.
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Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers? I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach. That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.
Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?
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Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers? I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach. That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.
Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?
Why would you think that? Sean has never expressed his desire to be the head coach here; publicly or apparently privately.
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Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers? I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach. That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.
Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?
General Myers is a LHC Bill Snyder type of guy....not a dork like Schultz and Currie. Regardless of who the successor to Snyder is, the big boys (Myers and Snyder) will make the decision. Currie hiring Weber sealed his fate.
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Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers? I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach. That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.
Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?
Why would you think that? Sean has never expressed his desire to be the head coach here; publicly or apparently privately.
Don't know what preference Sean has expressed, but it's widely believed that LHCBS wants Sean to succeed him as head coach. It's also widely believed that Snyder was shot down when he wanted to bring Leavitt back to K-State.
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Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers? I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach. That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.
Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?
Why would you think that? Sean has never expressed his desire to be the head coach here; publicly or apparently privately.
Don't know what preference Sean has expressed, but it's widely believed that LHCBS wants Sean to succeed him as head coach. It's also widely believed that Snyder was shot down when he wanted to bring Leavitt back to K-State.
If they cared enough to make this deal don't you think they would have ensured the purple they left the program to shared that same belief?
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I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back. I think he asked.
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I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back. I think he asked.
Fact
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I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back. I think he asked.
Quid pro quo is not a bribe.
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Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers? I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach. That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.
Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?
Why would you think that? Sean has never expressed his desire to be the head coach here; publicly or apparently privately.
Don't know what preference Sean has expressed, but it's widely believed that LHCBS wants Sean to succeed him as head coach. It's also widely believed that Snyder was shot down when he wanted to bring Leavitt back to K-State.
If they cared enough to make this deal don't you think they would have ensured the purple they left the program to shared that same belief?
not only that but i believe sean has stated that he doesnt want the job, I could be wrong on that but im pretty sure thats what he said
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I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back. I think he asked.
Quid pro quo is not a bribe.
He would have taken the job whether they said Sean was the next HC or not. He would have done it for less green too
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I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back. I think he asked.
Quid pro quo is not a bribe.
He would have taken the job whether they said Sean was the next HC or not. He would have done it for less green too
Agreed. But, I also bet they (Krause, Weefs) told him "sure" when he said he'd like Sean to take over someday. I mean, that's EXACTLY like all three of those guys to say crap like that an just spit on their hands and shake on it.
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I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back. I think he asked.
Quid pro quo is not a bribe.
He would have taken the job whether they said Sean was the next HC or not. He would have done it for less green too
Agreed. But, I also bet they (Krause, Weefs) told him "sure" when he said he'd like Sean to take over someday. I mean, that's EXACTLY like all three of those guys to say crap like that an just spit on their hands and shake on it.
Friend, I firmly believe that EMAW Stud (except for one dumb mistake) Bob Krause (RIP Bob) had Gary Patterson hired, and was completely blind sided by the Weef and Snyder.
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I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back. I think he asked.
Quid pro quo is not a bribe.
He would have taken the job whether they said Sean was the next HC or not. He would have done it for less green too
Agreed. But, I also bet they (Krause, Weefs) told him "sure" when he said he'd like Sean to take over someday. I mean, that's EXACTLY like all three of those guys to say crap like that an just spit on their hands and shake on it.
Friend, I firmly believe that EMAW Stud (except for one dumb mistake) Bob Krause (RIP Bob) had Gary Patterson hired, and was completely blind sided by the Weef and Snyder.
Its an absolute fact that Krause was talking to a third party representative (a former NFL and KSU assistant and friend) of Gary Patterson about the K-State job before it was blown up by the "Its Patterson" fiasco which pissed off patterson and caused him to withdraw as they were undefeated at the time. It wasn't 100% he would take the job but he was very interested, it was just early november. Fortunately they had been talking to Snyder as well and he came back and saved us.
In regards to present day, what i've heard, and i think its been mentioned on here, is that Snyder doesn't trust currie to pick the coach. I think hes worried about what happened with the Ron Prince hire and wants to make sure one of his guys gets hired, or he has significant input on who gets hired. I was told (and this is second hand) that Schulz and Currie told snyder Sean wasn't ever going to be a candidate a couple years ago. That's why he doesn't mention it in public as much as used too.
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Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.
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Dating back to December, I have been aware of some health concerns for Coach LHC Bill Snyder. I have not felt comfortable releasing this information until Coach Snyder chooses to do so himself. Now, speculation surrounding Snyder's health is becoming public and I will address this topic solely for the purpose of quieting false speculation.
Recently Kansas State coach LHC Bill Snyder has been receiving treatment at a Kansas City medical facility for a serious, but very treatable health issue that GPC is choosing to not identify at this time. Snyder is currently taking some time off to address his health, but is expected to coach next season for Kansas State. As of this writing, there are no plans for Snyder to retire or for a successor as K-State's head football coach to be named.
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ingrown toenail?
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poop hole
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Anal fistula?
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The C word :frown:
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The C word :frown:
He has a case of the crazies?! crap!
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thank goodness he's planning to be back next year. it'd be understandable if he wasn't, but thank goodness he is.
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The C word :frown:
He has a case of the crazies?! crap!
No, he has a case of the craps! Crazy!
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thank goodness he's planning to be back next year. it'd be understandable if he wasn't, but thank goodness he is.
Really loves this family
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thank goodness he's planning to be back next year. it'd be understandable if he wasn't, but thank goodness he is.
Really loves this family
Um-hm, GWSHCBS!!
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Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.
I'm not opposed. I can't quite trust Currie to make the right hire. Other than the fund raising and getting donations, he has excelled superbly on that regard. But as far as making an important hire for coaches? Other than the women's basketball coach, his track record isn't stellar.
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I think the AD should make the next hire. He can choose to listen to advice from Bill, but it should be 100% Curries call. Otherwise why even have an AD.
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I think the AD should make the next hire. He can choose to listen to advice from Bill, but it should be 100% Curries call. Otherwise why even have an AD.
To raise boat loads of cash and oversee the buildings the cash builds.
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I think the AD should make the next hire. He can choose to listen to advice from Bill, but it should be 100% Curries call. Otherwise why even have an AD.
Who declares that AD's hire coaches? Most NFL teams traditionally have hired GM's who them hired head coaches. The Chiefs changed that up with the Andy Reid hire who then suggested to the owner that John Dorsey be hired as GM. The team president handles all the financial stuff.
There is NO WAY John Currie should make the head coach hire.
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I wouldn't take chings seriously
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He must. Who would the next head coach answer to? If he can't hire a head coach, how can he fire one?
If you want to eliminate the athletic department entirety then that's another matter.
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In my opinion, the head football coach at KSU isn't some dynastic position where he gets to choose his successor without oversight.
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I think the AD should make the next hire. He can choose to listen to advice from Bill, but it should be 100% Curries call. Otherwise why even have an AD.
Fund raising, non-football scheduling, parking logistics, game day programs, and concessions management.
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Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.
I'm opposed. He wants his son who wants no part of the job to coach, his judgement is highly questionable.
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It's well known Sean doesn't want to touch it. Not sure why everyone thinks Snyder is senile all of a sudden w/ a 79 year olds normal complications. He's obviously planning a few things behind the scenes (regardless), but I'm 99% sure Sean isn't part of it minus keeping an assistant job if crap hits the fan.
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Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!
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Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!
Would watch.
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Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.
I'm opposed. He wants his son who wants no part of the job to coach, his judgement is highly questionable.
It's a panel. Not Bill making the choice alone. I wouldn't want Bill alone to make the call.
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Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!
Don't you already have to eat it for something else? Or was the CF3?
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Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.
I'm opposed. He wants his son who wants no part of the job to coach, his judgement is highly questionable.
It's a panel. Not Bill making the choice alone. I wouldn't want Bill alone to make the call.
Yes, but anyone as openly biased as Bill wouldn't be going into it as open minded trying to find the best guy for the job.
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Fair enough. I guess I'm still holding out hope that Bill isn't pushing for Sean and it's all just gEing.
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Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!
Don't you already have to eat it for something else? Or was the CF3?
No. I won that prediction too. Hat is currently safe wherever Mrs. Wacky hid it.
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Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!
Don't you already have to eat it for something else? Or was the CF3?
No. I won that prediction too. Hat is currently safe wherever Mrs. Wacky hid it.
so beta
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I should put my woman in line, like a real man!
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No Wacky. She is your equal. She is your peer. She is not an object or a possession. She does not belong to you. She chooses you everyday. That is a thing of beauty. Don't ruin it with abuse.
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:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
https://twitter.com/HuskyJw/status/831210774215340036
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:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
https://twitter.com/HuskyJw/status/831210774215340036
Probably the same situation as the SDSU coach, probably giving best wishes and talking to AD. Now if Venzy visits, that's really interesting.
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Leavitt would be a super safe hire for 'ol Currdog
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More likely that the "Husky" fan was trying to troll some Oregon folks and caught some K-Stater's in the crossfire.
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Really wouldn't surprise me if he were tho.
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Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has Lincoln Riley shown up on KSU's radar?
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/oklahomasooners/2017/02/21/espn-expect-oklahoma-oc-lincoln-riley-coordinator-much-longer
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Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has Lincoln Riley shown up on KSU's radar?
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/oklahomasooners/2017/02/21/espn-expect-oklahoma-oc-lincoln-riley-coordinator-much-longer
so like briles son minus the rape stuff?
wouldnt be my first call but probably would take
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Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has Lincoln Riley shown up on KSU's radar?
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/oklahomasooners/2017/02/21/espn-expect-oklahoma-oc-lincoln-riley-coordinator-much-longer
so like briles son minus the rape stuff?
wouldnt be my first call but probably would take
Would be kinda neat to steal him from OU. Especially if he turns out to be a good hire.
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I think he'll be at Tech in 2018.
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I think he'll be at Tech in 2018.
Tech might be inclined to stay away from a young unproven HC after what they just went through. Who knows though.
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the smoke to fire ratio here is Jim Cattey level right now
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I think he'll be at Tech in 2018.
Tech might be inclined to stay away from a young unproven HC after what they just went through. Who knows though.
Sonny Dykes seems like the pick up the pieces hire if Kliff goes down in flames
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https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/879470269580034048
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...Sofia is his granddaughter, right? Or is he one of those weird old guys with a young kid? :sdeek:
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http://www.goducks.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1518
Leavitt is married to Jody Leavitt and has three daughters, Deandre, Sofia and Isabella.
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...Sofia is his granddaughter, right? Or is he one of those weird old guys with a young kid? :sdeek:
What a stupid thing to care about
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(bless her heart)
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https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/960524361772949505
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/960607194885496832
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/960957216521052160
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Jim just doesn't have the willpower necessary to coach at KSU.
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:love: #YOLO
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:lol:
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Is Pepsi paying this man yet?
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Live look in at the exact moment he realized he can't live without his pepsi:
(https://woolandhoney.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/img_2281.jpg)
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Man I love his weirdo pepsi thing.
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Live look in at the exact moment he realized he can't live without his pepsi:
(https://woolandhoney.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/img_2281.jpg)
I think I like this comparison better than the club cover
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:lol:
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Man I love his weirdo pepsi thing.
it's great
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adorable
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Man I love his weirdo pepsi thing.
His twitter Pepsi obsession has almost entirely sold me on him being our next coach. I honestly want him more than venzy
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Man I love his weirdo pepsi thing.
His twitter Pepsi obsession has almost entirely sold me on him being our next coach. I honestly want him more than venzy
High costs for translator thou. :horrorsurprise:
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he's just the wackiest guy on twitter. i'm sure it's a persona to some extent, but I like to imagine that he's IRL like the guy he is on twitter. just living and breathing duck football and pepsi 24/7. anytime i see i pepsi i just want to let out a big GO DUCKS!
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I can't even remember the last time I had a Pepsi but this dude makes me want to have one. PepsiCo needs to compensate the man if they aren't already.
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I don't trust anyone that drinks Pepsi
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It's almost like, there is no way Oregon is working on any kind of a Pepsi sponsorship because Leavitt would be much more subtle about it. He actually sounds a lot like that one friend on facebook who just constantly posts those kind of "omg, I'm so silly and just love this [thing]".
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Holy crap, guys! :love:
https://twitter.com/coachjimleavitt/status/962119608470663168
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I love it
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I don't trust anyone that drinks Pepsi
But kstate is a Pepsi school...
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I don't trust anyone that drinks Pepsi
But kstate is a Pepsi school...
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We're a oscar Weber school too
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smack thwarted
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Go Ducks!
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https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/984853693009821696
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dog on :love:
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lol
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dog on :love:
:D
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Diabetes is going to destroy that man.
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can hardly feel my toes /beetus
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https://twitter.com/coachjimleavitt/status/985675959125749760?s=21
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Judging by his furniture, he’s ready to pick up and move to manhattan at any time.
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Hard to believe that guy choked out his player. Maybe he was standing between levitt and the last can of Pepsi at the practice field.
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He probably brought cokes to Jim’s bbq.
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smack thwarted
lol
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Small hands
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I hope that guy is getting paid for his endorsements.
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smack thwarted
lol
yeah, this was great posting
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https://twitter.com/hakiwoods/status/1024488589000724480
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There was a can of Pepsi at the bottom of that pool.
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Didn't see a splash.
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That is what you call top notch technique.
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That is what you call top notch technique.
Or a gruesome suicide
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https://twitter.com/MattPrehm/status/1095837764224839680?s=19
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Stoops is getting the gang back together in Dallas! :ROFL:
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Holy
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:cry: K-State saying no to him is making him give up college football all together?
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"Moving on," lol
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